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This is Later with Lee Matthews,
The Lee Matthews Podcast, more what You

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Hear Weekday Afternoon's on the Drive.
He's produced over fifty DVDs and hosts Jim

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Shockey's Hunting Adventures and Jim Shockey's Uncharted
on the Outdoor Channel. Also an award

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winning writer, wildlife photographer, videographer. He's got a new novel out,

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Jim Shockey's called Call Me Hunter.
Welcome Jim. Before we get started,

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what's your favorite black powder load?
You know, I've been using one hundred

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and fifty grains of Pyrodex Select.
I'm old school in that way with the

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hornity bullets. Two hundred and fifty
grain bullet. Well, I'm an enthusiast

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myself, and I spent a good
deal of this weekend doing some handloading of

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nine millimeter and thirty eight special.
But I'm not the hunter you are.

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But Hunter is in your new book, uh, and that is out now?

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It's your first novel. Yeah,
I think it today? Is the

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release date today tomorrow? But I
know it's in bookstores right now as we

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speak and being delivered by Amazon.
So yeah, yeah, it's a big

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day today. Jim Shockey, Call
me Hunter is the novel Jim tell Us

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about your protagonist Hunter. You know, this is I would classify it as

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an autobiographical, fictional, abstract thriller. You know, it has to fit

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into a genre, so they just
call it a thriller. But the character

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Hunter, who also is known as
Icarus and known as sees you the amount

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of sores. You know, it's
loosely based on my life. You know,

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the easiest way to write is is
to to tell your own story.

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And this is truly, truly my
story. It's not about hunting, though

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the character develops and a love for
hunting, but there's no animals getting hunted

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in other than human beings. Well, Hunter has some he has some unusual

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abilities, does he not. Yeah, that's you know. I truly believe

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that there's people around this world that
are gifted with an ability to recognize beauty,

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to feel a spirit of an object
if it was handmade. And so

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I've taken that to the ins degree
with shoot Me, with Hunter so and

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the other characters in the book.
You know, it's it's a It's something

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in my museum, the Hand to
Man Museum on Vancouver Island. I see

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it all the time when people walk
down the hallway. They that have a

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higher sensibility to the art. They
feel it, they feel beauty. And

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that's what the underlying premises of this
this story, Call Me Hunter. Jim

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Shockey is the author of Call Me
Hunter. You know him from Shaki's Hunting

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Adventures and Jim Shocke Uncharted on the
Outdoor Channel. The main quest in this

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story is treasure, but it's a
different kind of trend. Sure, yeah,

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yeah. The the the Again,
the premise is that there's a deep

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state organization our world that that controls
the art market. So they're always looking

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for the greatest works of art made
by human beings, and there's the They

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basically recruit these people with the ability
to recognize that art and then they sell

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it to a big auction called the
Gathering, to the wealthy people of the

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world. The rest of us never
get to see these pieces. But the

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one greatest work of art that man
has ever created or human beings is the

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Soul Catcher. And that that's what
the book is about, is the our

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world searching for the Soul Catcher,
and he does so in his book Call

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Me Hunter. Jim Shockey is with
us and the book is out Now.

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The tell us about your your your
Antagonistfago Gebago. Yeah, he's the villain.

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And you know, I flipped the
stereotypes we've been for the last sixty

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years. They've always had you know, hunters as evil. So I've flipped

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the stereotypes and I've made Jevago about
as villainous as you can make a villain.

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But he's also an animal rights extremist. So as I say, I

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flipped it, and I mean technically
the anti hero Hunter. The protagonist is

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actually Nyalla, a young lady.
The story is really about her journey to

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find herself through this process of learning
about our world and the search for the

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soul catcher. Jim Shockey writes about
it, call me Hunter. It's out

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now. Has nothing to do with
Hunter Biden zero. That's just a bad

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coincident, thank goodness. Okay,
so when the story gets going, does

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it take us to any exotic ports
of call? No, this this one

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is is pretty mundane rosaic. I
mean it starts starts in North Carolina and

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ends up on the west coast of
Vancouver Island. So so you know it's

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a journey, yeah, but it's
not nowhere wild and crazy uh, you

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know, but there you know,
it's a two book deal with Simon and

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Schuster, So stand by for the
the sequel to call Me Hunter. I'm

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sure it's it's coming as well.
And yeah, and possibly movie rights as

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well. I mean that that would
be a perfect world, you know,

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hope hopefully. I was right there
when Jack Carr got the call from Chris

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Pratt for his Terminalist novel, when
Chris optioned it to turn it into the

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Amazon series or Prime. So so
it's pretty cool when that happens, and

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that would be that would be the
the dream come true for sure. And

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I see that he's written you a
byline, so are you and he pretty

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well acquainted? Yeah. Like I
said, I was standing right beside him

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when he got the call from Chris
Pratt. It was a pretty pretty funny

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evening. Yeah, he's a he's
a great guy, great great author.

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I mean I think he said six
New York Times bestsellers, three at one

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time in the top ten. Yeah, he's Anyone that has read his series

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do yourself a favor. Oh I
have, and I'm a fan and I've

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had him on this program too,
So that's why I look forward to reading

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Jim Shockey of Jim Shockey's Hunting Adventures
and Jim Shocky Uncharted the book is Call

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Me Hunter? Any of the any
I wanted to get back to Chivago?

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Did Javago? I mean, you've
You're you're basing a lot of what you're

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writing about on your own experience doing
and being in these certain parts of the

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country. Is Jivago a manifestation of
any particular person. No, I wouldn't

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say an individual person, but of
an ideology. Yes, you know,

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like I say, you know if
you Alice in Wonderland was metaphor, and

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that that's what this really truly is, is allusion to what's going on out

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there in the world. So yeah, Jevago exists not as an individual,

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but as a as an ideology.
And you've hunted in a lot of different

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places, Jim shacki Hunting Adventures and
Jim Shacki's uncharted on the outdoor channels where

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you know him and his newest novelists
Call Me Hunter. Is are you at

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any point where Oh, I'm tired
of going out in the field, you

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know. Twenty nineteen October Mozambique was
my last international trip, and I decided

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that in twenty sixteen. I was
booked that partiam the Mess for these expeditions,

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but I needed to write call me
Hunter. So if I didn't sit

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down and start writing, it wouldn't
have happened. And then COVID hit anyway,

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and then my wife was took ill, and so I you know,

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my international travel days are pretty much
ended. You know. I don't don't

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run as fast anymore, don't here
as well, don't see as well,

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and I just end up being eaten
by something with sharp teeth. You still

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go hunting domestically, yeah, of
course. Yeah. The Yukon is my

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favorite. I've got the Road River
Opening Territory up in the Yukon. It's

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about twelve thousand square miles seven million
acres and there's not a single road,

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not a house, nothing down below, just you know, our cabins on

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lakes and rivers, and so I
go up there every year. I love

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it. I wouldn't stop that well, as long as I'm able to continue

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to go up there. No,
we have quite an elk season and quite

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a deer season. Our deer season
just started, so I'm seeing friends of

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mine and their harvests and celebrating with
them on this and you'll celebrate this novel

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Jim Shockey. It's called Call Me
Hunter. It is out everywhere you get

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books. Jim will be watching you
on your hunting adventures. And thanks for

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bringing us the story, Thanks for
having me, Thanks for listening to Later

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