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The ranks of Lockdown Bengals every days, and 18 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:42.239 we appreciate every single one of you who does either or all of those things. 19 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:45.359 This episode is brought to you by prize Picks, the easiest and most 20 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:48.560 exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. Go to prizepicks dot com, slash 21 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:52.560 Lockdown NFL and use promo code Lockdown NFL for a first deposit match up to 22 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.599 one hundred dollars and James. Today, we dive in to Cincinnati Bengals draft 23 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:02.079 needs. When we were talking about this episode before the show, when we 24 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:07.520 were planning our topic for today, the list of first round potential targets is 25 00:02:07.639 --> 00:02:13.199 long, and trying to rank them in terms of priority, it's sort of 26 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:16.159 difficult. I mean, you got five six positions on this list when we 27 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:23.639 were talking about this last night. Yeah. I think this is a unique 28 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:27.479 position that we haven't seen the Bengals in in quite some time, where one 29 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:32.560 they're picking earlier than we've seen the past couple of years, and two in 30 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:37.599 recent years it's been well, there's no obvious needs, like, there's needs 31 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:40.240 down the line, and we saw them take Dax Hill, which we'll see 32 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:44.759 if that pick works out or not. And last year it was like, 33 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:47.000 well, there's no obvious needs. You could go tight end. I pushed 34 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:50.240 for running back, but both of the running backs that were worth first round 35 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.280 picks were long gone, and after that it was kind of like, we'll 36 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:57.280 see, like what they do. We knew it wasn't receiver, but we 37 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:00.479 kind of had it narrowed down to multiple defensive spots and maybe tight end. 38 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:04.199 There were a lot of people against the running back trains, so won't even 39 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:10.840 mention that one. So that was pretty much it right now and full disclosure. 40 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:14.800 A year ago at this time, the Bengals were playing the Chiefs. 41 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:17.439 We weren't into draft mode yet, but right now there are far more needs. 42 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:22.560 You could go tight end, and certainly make that argument. The reason 43 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:24.439 you aren't, and I won't argue running back is more to do with the 44 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:29.280 draft class than it is the idea that they wouldn't take one, So we'll 45 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:34.120 scratch that one. But still, offensive tackle certainly in play, defensive tackle 46 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:38.000 certainly in play. A lot of people talking about defensive tackle, defensive end. 47 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:42.719 I don't think it's completely rolled out. Cornerback certainly on the table. 48 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:46.280 So there's five? Is there a six that I missed that I rattled off 49 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:53.199 wide receive? I are you okay? Yeah? What is going on? 50 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:55.599 Why would I not remember wide receiver? I should have let off with that 51 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:59.960 one, because of course wide receivers in play as well. And so they 52 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:05.039 you go, there's six different positions that I think there's at least some realistic 53 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:14.000 chance and realistic possibility that that's the route they go with the eighteenth pick. 54 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:17.399 And we still have what three months exactly, It seems like a're pretty close 55 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:20.360 to exactly for the NFL Draft, And yet I do think it is that 56 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:25.399 open where you're talking about six different positions at least in the running as of 57 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:29.920 right now. And obviously this episode is far too early to really say what 58 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:32.480 we think they will do in the NFL Draft. Free agency will change this 59 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:39.560 significantly. The Senior Bowl, the Shrine Bowl, the combine all these major 60 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:43.199 draft events that give us a lot more information about the prospects will occur and 61 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:46.600 will adjust accordingly when we know more of what the Bengals roster is going to 62 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:49.000 look like and more of what this draft class is going to look like. 63 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.920 But one of the big lessons, and we'll talk about this when we compare 64 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:56.319 how this year and last year could be different for the Bengals is I don't 65 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:59.480 think they can draft for the future this year, and we can spend a 66 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.439 lot of time I think talking about this philosophical approach beach theme from the Bengals 67 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:08.079 really in each of their last three quarterback regimes where at some point they tried 68 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:12.879 to draft for the future. Notably under Andy Dalton we saw the tackle future 69 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.000 Draft, and I think we've seen a couple of drafts in Cincinnati the last 70 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:21.480 couple of years where the late first round pick is not necessarily geared toward let's 71 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:25.160 find a guy that will make an impact on the team this year. And 72 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:30.199 I think that is a difference this year when we're looking at why this will 73 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.959 be such a challenging exercise is because you know, the way you framed it 74 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:35.279 to me, this is also interesting, and when we were talking about this 75 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:39.399 yesterday, is you know, you're saying the Bengals are really opened this year 76 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:41.560 as far as what they can do in the first round. And I think 77 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:45.399 that's true. Last year, that's how I would frame it last year, 78 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:47.639 where this year I would say, Oh, they need a whole lot of 79 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:50.680 things. Let's see what need is left. So in a sense, they're 80 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:54.160 open. It could be any number of positions, like you said, any 81 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:57.519 number of six positions, even it could be something we haven't even talked about, 82 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.480 right, But it's because they will need it. It's because they will 83 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:06.800 need an impact player at that position. And maybe it's not even a positional 84 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:11.040 thing. It's just that I think the approach to this year's draft needs to 85 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:15.560 be, and we'll talk about priority and trying to rank these positions needs to 86 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:17.800 be Let's find an impact player. Let's find a Pro Bowl, All Pro 87 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:24.800 potential player, regardless of position. And that's where I would start with this 88 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:28.759 year's draft, just looking at how this year went for the Bengals and how 89 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.639 you can kind of project toward twenty twenty four. I agree. I totally 90 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:39.439 agree, and I think one for years now, multiple years, it's been 91 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:43.480 hey, can you can you land like the Windows now land an instant impact 92 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.800 player. So they might be forced into that because of the needs. You're 93 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:48.040 right, and so do you want to look at it on one end of 94 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:53.639 the coin or the other end? I think it is interesting, but we're 95 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:56.959 really going to see this front office have to marry and they've tried to do 96 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.680 this in the past, but marry the draft and free agency and they did 97 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:05.040 it, and yeah, no doubt they had done it, but marry it 98 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:10.000 and nail it. And they nailed it in twenty twenty one. And you 99 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:12.360 look up and they're in the Super Bowl two years ago, right, Like 100 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:15.920 it's wild when they were doing that. But you get Chittobe Wuzia, you 101 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:20.160 get Mike Hill when you split that William Jackson money essentially that he was going 102 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:23.160 to get on the open market. And by the way, both of those 103 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:27.399 guys still in the league. William Jackson is not. So they nailed it 104 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:29.600 there, and so they need to get back to that where they get it 105 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:33.560 right in free agency and follow it up with instant impact guys. One thing 106 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.759 that I think is notable. We'll probably discuss them a lot over the next 107 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:41.680 few months. The Bengals. It's not like they didn't like tight end. 108 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:44.959 There were tight ends they liked and they went off the board. Let's say 109 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:47.639 they had a round three grade on Tucker Craft. Well, by the time 110 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:50.680 their third round pick rolled around, Tucker Craft was long gone. They're not 111 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:55.720 picking at the end of every round now, and I do think that that's 112 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:00.399 unique because at the past two years, I think they got burned at and 113 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:03.160 that's why they trade it up multiple times in twenty twenty two and in last 114 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.399 year. I think that's why the draft went the way the draft did at 115 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:11.480 certain positions. So that's another element. For sure. Picking in the middle 116 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:13.439 of the round certainly easier than picking at the end of the round, but 117 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:18.560 not as easy as the last couple of draft classes where they found some guys. 118 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.240 When they're picking top five, top one, that certainly makes it a 119 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:26.399 little bit easier. But free agency obviously going to have a huge impact on 120 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:28.879 how we ranked these positions, and we're going to get to the ranking. 121 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.759 It might be in the next segment. But offensive tackle, defensive tackle, 122 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.639 corner, wide receiver, tight end. You can throw edge defender in there 123 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:41.480 as well, so we can try to rank those six. But they need 124 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:46.559 to have answers for each of these positions at the end of free agency. 125 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.960 Can't go into the draft not having a starting right tackle, can't go into 126 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.240 the draft having what they have at defensive tackle and tight end, where there's 127 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.879 essentially nothing in the room. Can't go into the draft with Jamar Chase, 128 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.919 Charlie Jones, Andre Josuvash, and Trentner as your four receivers, right so 129 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:05.279 they will and T Higgins likely to be on the franchise sac. So maybe 130 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:11.120 that kind of down plays or diminishes that the push for a first round wide 131 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:13.440 receiver. But this class at wide receiver is going to push that right back 132 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:18.200 up, just because it's an insane class at wide receiver. So we're told 133 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:22.000 corner could be a place where they feel like they've got their starters, but 134 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:28.240 how confident are you and the guys they have? And again, a place 135 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:33.279 where value could push corner up in the first round, But we'll get to 136 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:37.399 that prioritization. I just wanted to make the point that they cannot get to 137 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.639 the draft with a burning need for a starter. They need to one find 138 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:45.600 an impact player that can contribute right away, which is not something they've been 139 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:48.200 able to do for the last couple of years since they drafted Jamar Chase. 140 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:54.879 But two, they can't go into the draft where it's that player or bust 141 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:58.320 at a particular position. That's why I kind of framed it initially as being 142 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.480 a little bit positioned, Agnost that can they just need to find the player 143 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.720 rather the Billy Christ droves up to find the position. Yet you can't. 144 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:09.320 You can't panic pick a center just because the guy you wanted in Frank Rag, 145 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:11.799 Now, let's pick one pick ahead of you. 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You ready to rank some positions as of January twenty eighth, 179 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.519 James, before the NFL playoffs are done? Wide receiver wide, receiver wide, 180 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:37.600 receiver wide. No, I'm just kidding. I'm ready to go. 181 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.320 I'm ready to go. There we go. I'm back baby, I'm back 182 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.120 baby. Let's go. All right? You wanting to rank them, I'll 183 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.559 rank them. I was seeing you out. Let's start with the first one. 184 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:52.960 Biggest need as of right now, you could go a few different directions 185 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:58.399 to me. As of right now, it's defensive tackle. Because of right 186 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:03.519 now, DJ Reader set to become a free agent. Josh Tupo said, 187 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:07.679 to become a free agent, you have the uncertainty of Reader, and outside 188 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:13.279 of BJ Hill with Reader's injury, and outside of BJ Hill, what are 189 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:18.159 you banking on J two Fela Zach Carter like, this is a position where 190 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:22.240 you need multiple guys where it wasn't good enough this year with DJ Reader and 191 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.360 now you have a question mark with Reader and whether or not Holli back. 192 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:28.519 You have the injury question mark with him, and so even if you brought 193 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:31.919 him back, let's just say he was under contract, it would still be 194 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.840 a major need. I had defensive tackle number one, and this kind of 195 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:41.559 shows the needs because I think you could make the argument for multiple spots here, 196 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:45.000 but I have DT just slightly above the rest. Yeah, I think 197 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.639 that there's a pretty good argument for that when you look at the way the 198 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:50.879 draft might fall as well. And we'll take a look at potential first round 199 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:56.840 targets for sure, But Newton, Johnny Newton, he's going by now, 200 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:03.480 not Jershon Newton, Illinois defensive tackle. If he's the guy that's available there, 201 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:09.559 and that's the way that things fall right now. That feels like a 202 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:13.639 common pick that we're going to be seeing in a lot of Cincinnati Bengals mock 203 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.840 drafts because of that needed defensive tackle, but as you said, not a 204 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:22.480 position the Bengals frequently prioritize in the first round, and a position where you 205 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.039 can easily see them spending money in free agency, and that's part of what 206 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:31.039 makes this challenging. But between that and right tackle a couple of positions where 207 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:35.120 again you expect the Bengals to spend money in free agency to have some pieces 208 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:41.080 there, and right tackle an offensive linemen in general in the NFL, as 209 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:45.159 rookies, especially if you're not picking them in the top five often and even 210 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:50.679 then sometimes often need some seasoning. You don't want to necessarily have to rely 211 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.159 on a rookie right out of the gate. That's where offensive tackle is right 212 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:56.879 up there with defensive tackle. Right I mean, they have no tight ends 213 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:00.480 on the roster, so technically, if you want to into that one, 214 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.159 you can talk about tight end. But they also don't have a starting right 215 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.799 tackle on the roster. And we talk a lot about this offensive line needing 216 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:13.360 to play better, needing an athleticism infusion. Picking a little bit earlier in 217 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:16.639 a very strong offensive tackle class, talk about how strong the wide receiver class 218 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.960 is also true for tackle, but I think Dame Brugler had like double digits 219 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:28.879 tackles in his first first round mock draft of the year. So I mean, 220 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.000 you're talking crazy tackle depth and you can get an infusion of talent and 221 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.600 athleticism there. I think those are the two that we're talking about at the 222 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:39.759 top when you're talking about draft needs for the first round. Let me ask 223 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.200 you this, and I'm putting you on the spot, but you just look 224 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.639 at that depth Chary at both of those positions, and I agree with you 225 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.360 that that's the debate, and I think you could flip them either way. 226 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.879 Who do you trust more? And these are just guys that are on the 227 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:56.440 roster and under contract right now. At defensive tackle you have j two Fla 228 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:02.759 and Zach Carter. Or at offensive tackle you have Jackson Carmen and Deontay Smith. 229 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:07.039 That's quite easy, isn't it? Hit Like you trust the defensive tackle 230 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:11.600 because they're not putting Joe Burrow at risk. That's it Like it's worse for 231 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:15.440 your defense probably, But I don't trust either one. I think the answer 232 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:21.240 is not. I don't even really trust at least three of the four as 233 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:26.320 quality backups. To be honest, it's just at least that way, you're 234 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:32.200 not endangering your quarterback with a glaring weakness on your offensively. Sure, and 235 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:36.120 come back to this, if they go into the season with Jackson Karmen as 236 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:41.679 plan a for right tackle, because we need to hold ourselves and we're going 237 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:45.080 to continue to hold them to that standard, because that would be there. 238 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.120 There should be a better chance. No, I'm serious about this, There 239 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:53.159 should be a better wait, like one hundred to one should be the odds 240 00:16:55.080 --> 00:17:00.039 if you look at Fandel that Jackson Carmen is your your starting right tackle given 241 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:06.079 any circumstance, including injuries, as starting the year. But the other element 242 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:11.440 of this is you're right, they should they should pay. But he I 243 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:15.279 think it's more likely that he's not on the roster than he is the starter, 244 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:18.160 to be very clear. And I don't think they'll cut I doubt it. 245 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.960 But and everyone talks about the Billy Price trade like you can just cook 246 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:26.799 up someone that wants Jackson Karmen. I don't think anyone wants Jackson Karmen anyway. 247 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:32.000 No trade value there, all right, So we both agree dtot basically 248 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:33.799 six and one hand half a dozen. The other top needs at the top 249 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.480 of the board. Third, I do think it is tight end. I 250 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:44.680 do, and it's tight end because there's no like, let's say you even 251 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:47.200 had Tanner Hudson and Drew Sample back on the roster, and I think those 252 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:48.480 are two guys that a lot of people look at and say, hey, 253 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:52.480 they can help this offense. Which I agree, that's still one of your 254 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.759 worst spots and one of your worst positions. And that's no knock on them. 255 00:17:56.839 --> 00:18:03.880 They just don't have any young, controllable, rookie contract guy or proven 256 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.400 even remotely close to Pro Bowl type player, yeah, at that spot, 257 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:11.960 and so those are good role players, but they need to get better at 258 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:17.400 tight end, and draft wise, it stinks because it's Brock Bowers and then 259 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:21.960 there's a drop off, and you do wonder if in rounds two through four 260 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:23.720 they'll be able to find a guy that can contribute right away, which it's 261 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:26.480 hard to do at tight end anyway. You know, some of these guys 262 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:30.920 did it this past year with Kincaid and Laporta and Tucker Craft, and I 263 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:33.599 could go on and on. It's not always like that, and it was 264 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.480 like that this past year. No, it was a crazy tight end class 265 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.039 and they missed out, and that's unfortunate that they missed out, But like 266 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:42.240 you said, that's the way the board fell at. Picking at the end 267 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:47.799 of the round makes it hard to overdraft a guy like picking Tucker Craft at 268 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:49.799 the end of the second round. What would have been the alternative? And 269 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:52.799 I know there's some Bengals fans out there that don't think DJ Turner had a 270 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:59.359 very good rookie season. And that is my segue to cornerback because between tight 271 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:04.519 end and corner, I think that that is again impacted by the draft. 272 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:10.440 This is not a great draft at either of those positions, but it's certainly 273 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:14.759 better at corner than it is tight end. There are corners that are besides 274 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:17.839 Brock Bowers, there's only one tight end. There's multiple corners I think that 275 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:22.200 are worth first round picks that will be picked in the first round. So 276 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:26.480 if you're talking about priorities in terms of what they could pick in the first 277 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.440 round, James, I would put corner ahead of tight end because I think 278 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:36.519 Bowers is gone. But if it's Bowers versus corner, obviously tight end kind 279 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:40.319 of jumps over everything. I think, unless it's like somehow you have a 280 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:45.119 decision between Brock Bowers and Joe Allt and then it gets really interesting. But 281 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:48.519 they played themselves all that consideration. You won't yeah, will not be yeah. 282 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:53.400 There's a small sliver for Bowers, a small one where you could say, 283 00:19:55.799 --> 00:19:59.799 hey, positional value wise, there's this offensive tackle or this is why 284 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:04.759 receiver, multiple quarterbacks go that our borderline Round one guys go ahead of the 285 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:10.240 eighteenth pick, like you could see the fall two DT's go. I don't 286 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:17.359 think you're getting a top seven or eight offensive tackle. But if Bowers falls, 287 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:18.440 all right, would you take Newton or Bowers? That would be the 288 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.599 one? And that's the popular debate. What would you do if both are 289 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.519 there and they won't know it's January twenty eighth. I don't know yet. 290 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:32.599 There you go. That is the dream and it probably will be borderline dream 291 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:37.279 for this team over the next three months. I think that's fair. Right 292 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:41.160 of one of those guys falls, now, it could change some. I 293 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:44.839 think these receivers they're kind of slotted the way they're slotted. I think we'll 294 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:48.519 have some risers. I think we'll have some guys that make their push for 295 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.960 that eighteenth pick, and who knows what t I think the t stuff. 296 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:57.279 It's just so interesting because you and I both have talked tag and trade. 297 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:00.240 I think that makes a decent amount of sense, and I think there's a 298 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.480 market for Tea. Even with a deep wide receiver class, A lot of 299 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.640 teams would be interested in trading for Tea, just so out of character for 300 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.039 the Bengals. We have a couple more positions to get to. Then we'll 301 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:14.200 take a look at who's some potential first round targets where we've talked about a 302 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:18.680 couple of them, a couple of the dream targets. We'll continue those conversations 303 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:23.839 coming up next. 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Tight end, corner I think probably goes tight end 329 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:18.640 then corner, but I think for first round priority, like I said, 330 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:22.000 corner gets pushed up just because of the draft class. I think wide receiver 331 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:26.039 also gets pushed up because of the draft class. Not necessarily that it's a 332 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:30.519 burning need right now, but when you have a class like this, we 333 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:33.720 ask them every year, hey, this is a really strong class of tight 334 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:34.960 end. Hey, this is a really strong class and wide receiver. Let's 335 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:38.279 dip into that. How does that play into it? With edge defender as 336 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:42.440 the other one of the six that we mentioned, Yeah, I think edges 337 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:51.240 is last. I think wide receiver, like there's a scenario where it's at 338 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:56.119 near the top and at leapfrogs tight end and it becomes like, all right, 339 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:00.400 it's the best tackle wide receiver. That's a vail. Like if T 340 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:07.440 Higgins isn't on this roster come draft time, or there's real legitimate hey they're 341 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:11.319 willing to trade him, then wide receiver has to be up there. They're 342 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:14.720 a wide receiver based team and unless they're completely changing their offense. I don't 343 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:18.240 expect them to. They rely on wide receivers as much as any team and 344 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:23.640 multiple and I think the wide receiver at eighteen is interesting because you're right, 345 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.400 they win at the end of the year, and I think they play themselves 346 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.759 out of like the top guys, right Neighbors is someone A lot of people 347 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:34.839 like he might not make it past Brian Callahan's Titans at seven, I think 348 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:40.680 or five, I mean or higher? Sure, I just mean, like 349 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:45.000 the floor is probably seven. We know what Marvin Harrison Junior is, So 350 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:47.920 let's just cancel those two guys out because they're going to be long gone. 351 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:56.400 Could roma Dunza fall I think that's really unlikely, less less likely than let's 352 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.480 say brock Bauers fall or Newton falling, Just to give you an idea of 353 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:04.319 some but if he was there, even with Tea, you would consider it 354 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:08.240 because that's like, oh, freak show stuff, and you're doing it in 355 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:14.039 round one. I'm not as I don't think they'll run to the podium, 356 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:17.079 Say for a Kean Coleman. I know he's in the mix. Brian Thomas 357 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:22.200 is interesting to me, but I don't know if unless T is gone ready, 358 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:27.359 would they consider that tier. I think the Roman Dunesday is probably the 359 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:32.039 last guy that they'd be like, oh, well we have tea franchise tag, 360 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.559 but that dude's still there, which it has happened. I will say, 361 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:38.160 Ceedee Lamb fell in the draft, Like, let's not go say it's 362 00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.680 crazy justin Jefferson fell in the draft. But everyone knew Ceedee Lamb was a 363 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:48.440 stud and he still fell to seventeen I believe, so it isn't completely outlandish, 364 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.039 but it's pretty unlikely this great tackle class, there's going to be tight 365 00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:53.680 end. Sorry, there's going to be quarterbacks. Pick. We know Brock 366 00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:57.559 Bowers is likely to be picked. There will probably be a defensive tackle, 367 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:02.279 probably an edge player in there. No positional value will play a part in 368 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:07.759 pushing guys up the board. But today it's hard for me to make a 369 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.079 big argument for wide receiver just because I expect T to be on the team 370 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.920 and until that changes, that's kind of why wide receivers mention where it is. 371 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:18.279 That said, I would still love the Bengals to take a wide receiver 372 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.799 in this class, it just might not be in the first round. Edge, 373 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:27.920 you know, not particularly robust class. They have pretty significant depth there 374 00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:33.079 in twenty twenty four, they need to be better. But when you're talking 375 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.480 about Sam Hubbard can stample Joseph O Saide, Trey Hendricks, and Miles Murphy 376 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.839 being the five guys on the roster right now, that is first round pick. 377 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.759 One of the NFL sack leaders, depending on your definition of a sack 378 00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:49.559 long time Cincinnati guy, veteran captain type, and Sam Hubbard plus good role 379 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:53.440 players and can't sample and a guy that we keep having expectations for. Maybe 380 00:26:53.440 --> 00:27:00.319 we don't anymore in JOSEPHO said, but that's your fifth guy. To think 381 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.759 about a first round edge player fitting into that mix, unless it's a guy 382 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.440 that you think is gonna come totally displaced Sam Huck. But when you've already 383 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:11.440 got Miles Murphy on the roster, then that is tough. And I wonder 384 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.519 if there are positions that we're getting yelled at about that we haven't talked about. 385 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.039 I don't know that there's a first round interior offensive lineman in this class. 386 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.039 I don't know much about the safety class. I can imagine those two 387 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:27.000 potentially have some folks interested, maybe punter, Maybe people want the first round 388 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:33.759 punter. I think we nailed it because if they take a dang you imagine 389 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.039 I'm taking a center at eighteen, Like, no, that sounds ugh. 390 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.799 I can't especially this year. I don't think there's a guy. And by 391 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.680 the way, if they take a safety at eighteen, he'd better instantly be 392 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:52.240 Jesse Bates because they've already invested draft cap. I mean, you're talking about 393 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.480 two valuable picks in that position. And when's the last time they had a 394 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.480 first round offensive tack or a third round offense tackle. It's been a while 395 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.680 outside of Jackson Carmen in Round two, which we knew in the moment it 396 00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.519 was a dumb pick. So yeah, we gave it time. By the 397 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:12.480 way, but we knew in the moment it seemed very very questionable at best. 398 00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:15.400 Just to be very clear, and the receipts are there, you can 399 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.480 go listen to our old episodes. Whenever the Bengals make a pick, we 400 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.480 will try to frame the upside right and the draft. That is what the 401 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.960 draft is for. You're often picking players for upside, but you will certainly 402 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:33.319 hear skepticism when we are skeptical of the player's chances of hitting that upside. 403 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:37.960 Let's take a quick look, James at some of the potential names. We're 404 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.960 going to load up a draft simulator here on PFF. So let's get that 405 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:48.039 pulled up for the people on YouTube and we'll talk through it for everybody that's 406 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.200 just listening. Let's get that pulled up now, and here we go. 407 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:57.839 If you're watching on YouTube, we have the PFF mock draft simulator. We're 408 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:00.119 just gonna let this run and take a look at some first round draft targets. 409 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:04.160 We're not gonna do anything crazy fancy here. We're just gonna hit this 410 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:08.880 enter draft button and see where the players go. Some of the players that 411 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:17.240 we talked about, and Jaydeon Daniels is their baby. So here we've got 412 00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:25.079 the situation that meaning getting past three what of the quarterback falling? But some 413 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:29.880 of the guys we discussed, like Roma dunesday long gone, Marvin Harrison long 414 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.200 gone, the leak Neighbors long gone, Brock Powers long gone, Joe Dunes 415 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.279 ahead of Harrison. What what planet are we on PF? The order doesn't 416 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.599 really matter though, right, It's just these are players. Oh, Nick's 417 00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:44.799 ahead of Jayden and Daniels matters to me, So Here's the thing about that 418 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:51.440 is lanzer Line, Mike Renner, and Matt Wollman all have Bonex ahead of 419 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.640 jayde and Daniels. And this won't happened on draft night book, And I 420 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.119 love Mike and I love those other guys too, But I'm just saying that 421 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:03.640 bo Nicks from Auburn apparently it's a different player from Bonix at Oregon, but 422 00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:07.640 that's not what we could talk about. He is anyways, JC Latham at 423 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.440 fifteen. It's so funny seeing people like Latham is not good and then others 424 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:12.640 like, yeah, give me Latham, and then other people say, no 425 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:17.039 Alabama tackle. If Latham's there at eighteen, I think that's a pretty good 426 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:18.759 scenario. It's go ahead. That is the name to talk about. I 427 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:23.039 think tally Esa Fuaga, whose name I might be getting wrong, is another 428 00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:27.240 tackle who is earlier in this sim then I think he will go based on 429 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:32.240 what I understand right now on Draft day. But that's another lineman that you 430 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:36.039 could talk about. Dallas Turner one of those edge players you could talk about. 431 00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:37.920 Nate Wiggins one of the corners you could talk about, and and Johnny 432 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.359 Newton picked as well. Terry On Arnold another corner you could talk about. 433 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:47.279 And Mayatu Latu from UCLA, the edge player, one of the edge players 434 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:49.559 that I think will be in consideration for the Bengals if they were looking at 435 00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.359 edge in the first round. I saw some good players though. When we're 436 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.880 looking at draft simulators and Nats are going to hear a lot of are guys 437 00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:02.240 like Brian Thomas, Amarus Mims, potentially kool Aid McKinstry, the corner from 438 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.160 Alabama. We talked with Mike Runner about him in our draft primary a couple 439 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:10.400 of weeks ago, and verse yep would would be another edge player that I 440 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.680 think some folks would have been happy with a while ago. Bira Murphy also 441 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:18.480 an interior defender who's working his way into first round consideration. And if you're 442 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.119 one of the draft of safety crowd, Cam Kitchens from Miami another name here 443 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.319 that I think would potentially draw some consideration. Anything else wrapping out at you, 444 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.200 James, No, not really, you covered most of them. I 445 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.599 think Amarus Mims. Did you mention Mims? I did, yes, all 446 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.279 right, Amarius Mims to me, kool Aid McKinstry vaults to the top of 447 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:42.240 my board because of the name. I mean the things that the Bengals fans 448 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:48.440 would do if kool Aid was awesome and you had Juice and kool Aid as 449 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:53.119 your starting corners, like with Jan Drago as you as you're maybe your slot 450 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:57.920 corner long term. Very fun. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. 451 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.960 I have watched little Brian Thomas. Dude's a baller. Just going to throw 452 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.039 that out there. It's early. I think Amarius Mims may have that, 453 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.839 like one of the higher ceilings in this tackle class. And we talked with 454 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:14.480 Mike g Renner about him some, and I think there will be a lot 455 00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:16.880 of fans that are like, no to an experience, too risky, but 456 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:22.160 I think he could very well be the pick in this scenario Byron Murphy too. 457 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.359 I'm surprised he's that low. I feel like he's there's a good chance 458 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.720 he might not even be there at eighteen. We've seen him mocked ahead of 459 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:35.200 Newton. Yeah, yeah, I believe that was Dame Brugler's mock as well. 460 00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.400 Yeah, I think I could. I could be misattributing that one. 461 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:42.079 But when I scroll through this list for everybody watching on YouTube that he sees 462 00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.599 me scrolling while James is talking, you see that the list of tackles is 463 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:51.880 pretty deep. There's also Troy Fatanu from Washington who maybe kicks inside in the 464 00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:54.160 NFL. The list of wide receivers is quite deep. You have to scroll 465 00:32:54.240 --> 00:33:00.759 for a while before you find uh Kean Coleman, who is a bit down 466 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.240 on the PFF board compared to like Troy Franklin. And if we just look 467 00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:07.279 at the wide receiver position group here Brian Thomas, Troy Flank, Troy Franklin, 468 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:14.200 Ladd McConkie, Devontes Walker, key On, Coleman, ad and Mitchell 469 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:22.440 Xavier Legette. So yes, like Get's interesting at forty nine Bengal second round 470 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:29.480 pick, and Maconkie is interesting Lad and as well. I think will be 471 00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:31.799 another one in Jalynne Polk. Like the list of receivers goes on, you 472 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.400 can tell, you can tell which guys we've seen a little bit of in 473 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.480 which month we have. There's three months to go, people, we will 474 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.279 know everybody inside and out. I promise it's just early as of today. 475 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:43.720 If we were doing mock draft Monday today, James, and we'll get out 476 00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.240 of here. I would pick Marius Mems in this scenario based on what I 477 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:50.480 know today, which is not I would eat. I would take Mems or 478 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:55.480 it would be Trenches or Murphy and I so I'd probably take Murphy because I 479 00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:00.000 said that defensive tackle is their biggest need. Free agency will impact that sound 480 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:02.519 And this is why they have to marry the two is because they have to 481 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:07.280 know have a good handle as they go into free agency of how they think 482 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:09.960 they can approach the draft and how realistic it is that they get a first 483 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.840 round OT. Will they consider a first round DT even though they haven't taken 484 00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.360 one since nineteen ninety four when half of our listeners, maybe not half, 485 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.960 but some of our listeners weren't even alive. I think there are some interesting 486 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.239 scenarios there. Do they like Brian Thomas enough? Because he's good yack and 487 00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:29.519 he's a good contested catch type of receiver, and he runs well well, 488 00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.960 nobody runs, but he looks fast, so we'll see. I think it's 489 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:38.039 I think it's interesting, and Jake I will say this, I'm officially really 490 00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:44.880 really excited about the draft. Draft season is here, lets Gomy. He's 491 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.639 had to open the draft simulator. Once we're ready to go. We're ready 492 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:52.639 to go here in lock time. Back a Marius Men's test thing going to 493 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.480 be extremely interesting. The risk there is that he was hurt, but you 494 00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.559 heard Mike talk about him if you listen to the show every day, very 495 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:04.079 very high on Amarius Mens and wouldn't be remotely surprising to see Men's go earlier. 496 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.880 I'm in for Men's here, just to get some athleticism on the offensive 497 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.760 line. Let's just make the pick go to turbo mode here to wrap up 498 00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:19.079 the first round on PFF just for fun, B plus solid stuff. Notice 499 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.719 how Jake got his way. He went with mems. I'm controlling the simulator, 500 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:27.039 James yep, ultimate control. He's trying to be Bill Belichick of Lockdown 501 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.159 Bengals. That ain't happening. Man. Just wait, I'm calling David Locke 502 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:35.119 right now. Go for it. That's gonna do it. For this episode 503 00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:39.599 of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. The championship games will be complete by the time 504 00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:45.519 you hear from us, and next we might have some takeaways from those episodes 505 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.400 or from those games. 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