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It's Tuesday. You know what that
means. It's time for Ignition with the

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aw Fat Hub podcast team. This
is Kelson and this is Alex, and

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we had a huge pay per view. I think some of us really enjoyed

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it. Some of us maybe not
so much. Spoiler alert. Yeah yeah,

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so let's get into it. I
think we're gonna start from the bottom

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and work our way up. Yeah. First, you know, we had

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a few matches on Zero Hour.
I think Trent and Matt Sidell opened up

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the show. I don't really have
a lot to say about this match,

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but I did enjoy the ending we
had Trent getting a mic and calling out

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Chuck e t and kind of seeing
where he stands in there their feud,

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so setting up for Dynamite. So
I am excited about that. I mean

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the match was just what it was. It was just to get Trent some

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heel heat, I think, right. Yeah. I mean when you look

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at Matt Sidel, you know,
very talented wrestler. But let's face it,

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between Matt Sidell and the next match, which was Shabbata and Cassidy against

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STP, I mean you're looking at
months and months and months and months of

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win loss record mediocrity. You know
they're gonna lose, so why have them

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on even a zero hour at a
pay per view? That just yeah,

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I agree that you just don't put
jobber matches in a pay per view.

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Yeah, those are easily collisioned dynamite
matches like yeah, nothing special absolutely,

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yeah yeah, I mean that's just
my point of view. I'm interested to

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hear what your point of view is
because I think you can lump in the

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Orange Cassidy and Shabata match with Taylor
Moriarty and yeah, yeah, to me,

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the only interesting part, like I
like seeing Shabata, I like seeing

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Orange Cassidy and all these guys,
But it was just about the staredown between

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Krant and Orange Cassidy and that angle. Yeah, it was like a two

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second bit with a fifteen minute of
you know, wrestling built around it.

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It was weird. They should have
just lamp lumped them two matches together and

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made it a six man mm hmmm, yeah, I guess, yeah,

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that would be That would have made
more sense because your your your Orige Castidy

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match was a revenge match of sorts
for Sabata because he got kind of screwed

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over by Jericho. The weekend before, So that was kind of why that

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match happened. You're right, those
two matches would have been better to have

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something else. Yeah, yeah,
I think it just existed to yeah further

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that storyline. Did you have something
to say about it that, No,

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No, I was just agreeing.
I was thinking about it, and yeah,

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I agree it It just kind of
I don't know, it felt felt

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a little flat to me, So
I don't know. You you wrapped it

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up really well when you said I
was thinking about it and yeah. Yeah,

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yeah, that's a good way to
think about it. That we had

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what was the next Yeah, so
the highlight of zero hour it was the

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acclaimed versus Bullet Club Gold. We
had the titles unification match Bullet Club Gold

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one day White got his pinned back
ass. Yeah. I thought it was

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a fun match. It wasn't like
anything super amazing, but it was.

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Yeah, it was just fun.
I enjoyed it, But it wasn't you

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know, the highlight of the card
for me. Yeah. I mean,

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look, this is what I'll say
about this match. First of all,

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I enjoyed, I really enjoyed this
match. They're both terrific teams. What

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I don't enjoy is trios matches at
all ever. I mean, even when

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you had the best triangle and the
elite doing their best of seven and they

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did pull off a few you know
things to make those seven matches different from

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one another, but they were trios
matches and they don't translate the TV.

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Well, I don't enjoy watching them. It doesn't matter. So I've never

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to this day seen an a you
know where I would give a trios match

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an A. So what I'll say
about this matches is that as a trios

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match, it was actually very good. It was enjoyable. Now I don't

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ever want to see a trios match
ever again on AWTV. That's that's just

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me. Mm hmm. Yeah.
I doubt you will get that wish,

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but I be. But at least
now that there's only one set of trios

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belts theoretically, I mean, and
they might only be on Ring of Honor

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now, they might be kind of
retiring them softly from aw TV, so

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you might get somewhat of your wish
at least less trios matches. Oh well,

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I had a side question kind of
about the acclaimed in that match.

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Does anyone think that Max Castor is
trying to get fired with his rap.

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Yeah, with his with his raps, because I remember reading that a few

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weeks ago, and someone in the
Reddit chat brought it up again after Dynasty

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that they felt that he was purposely
doing things and saying things to get fired,

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and I hadn't gotten that feeling about
him. But I was wondering if

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any of you all maybe saw something
that I had not seen yet. Well

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after that fiasco they had that one
day, the one time Tony approves everything

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he does, right, So I
don't think that, you know, people

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can say, well, he's trying
to get fired. Tony's approving the wraps,

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so everything that he said before that, which I found very interesting,

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He's getting that approved before he does
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working on his own. So it
might it might they might get the feeling

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that he's trying to get fired,
but I just think it's it's just what's

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going on right now. Okay,
Okay, Yeah, I've never like especially

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the last rap he did, and
he hasn't done a rap in a while,

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but yeah, I enjoyed it,
Like I like when he pushes boundaries.

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I didn't think I never feel like
he's crossing a line. I always

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feel like he's probably getting permission from
his opponent ahead of time. I think

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it's just like in good fun.
Okay, all right, well thank you,

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because I thought maybe I was missing
something. Yeah, I don't.

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I don't think that, you know, the Reddit gods are right here,

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but I do, you know,
but they could be. But at this

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point, I don't think he's trying
to get fun. Yeah. Yeah.

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I think the time that he had
the issue there was that it was didn't

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he have some kind of there was
like a death inist family or something,

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and there was some other stuff outside
of it going on. His mother died.

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Yeah, yeah, so I was
Mike, you know that can that

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can seriously affect what's going on?
His father died. I'm sorry I thought

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it was his father. Yeah.
Well, moving right along to the UH

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card. What better way to start
than Jericho? Okay, I yeah,

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I don't know. Something. I
was at the aw show in Toronto,

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UH and Cook was beating up Chris
Jericho and all the fans were booing Chris

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Jericho, wanting Hook to kill Chris
Jericho, And something broke in me that

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night that just made me decide that
I'm gonna like Chris Jericho no matter what,

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so I I was happy that he
won. I didn't hate this match.

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I see Consen's rated it quite low, but I didn't. I didn't

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love it, but I would definitely
put it above, you know, the

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worst match of the night. I
kind of like the ending. I like

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Chris Jericho with the FTW Championship.
Maybe he's going to retire it. I

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don't think that would be a bad
thing, but yeah, I don't.

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I didn't hate this match. I'd
give it like a D plus probably.

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Yeah, you know, the only
thing. The only thing I'll say about

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this match is that today. Maybe
Benu late last night, but I think

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it was today. Chris Jericho went
on Twitter x and made a post that

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said thank you to everybody who Oh
what did he say? He said,

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thanking everybody who supported me it cheered
for me at Dynasty. And I replied

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to that tweet by saying, yeah, those two guys were really annoying.

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I'm not sure. I'm not sure
he really heard. He must not already

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paid much attention to the teers he
was getting, because it was a couple

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of those you should retire or something. It was a pretty much a symphony

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of it. What are you talking
about a couple. Yeah, it was.

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He's I just I just like the
fact that he's actually doing my I

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was talking to my son about it, and I said, you're missing the

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point. He's doing the see them
Punk stuff that see Him Punk did backstage

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on TV on live. That's the
difference. That's what makes it different and

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makes it funny and makes it interesting
because he's actually being and it's and it's

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a it's definitely directed at that.
Yeah, And you know, I have

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a question. You know, so
we heard the please retire and other stuff

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that was said. Do you really
think that the fans want Chris Jericho to

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retire or do you think they're just
playing into the you know, to the

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gimmick that's going on right now because
he is obviously playing the CM punk part

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right now. And frankly, I
don't, I'm not I'm not here for

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it. I don't, I don't
want I don't ever want to hear or

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see CM punk again because of the
media scrum. You know, I thought

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he was very unprofessional. I have
nothing to say about the all in backstage

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footage or the brawl out because I
wasn't there and I couldn't hear and see

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everything and all in. I don't
know what was said done beforehand at brawl

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out. I wasn't in the room. The only thing I can say is

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where you had the the press conference, the media scrum. Cmpunk was wrong,

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and frankly so was Tony kan because
he should have had security escort cmpunk

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out of the building. You should
have fired him on the spot right then,

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and if he had done that,
none of this other stuff would have

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happened. This is true. Mm
hmm. You know, so goddamn it.

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You know, Chris Jericho, You're
a legend. Shut the hell up

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and do something different because this isn't
working for me. It will never work

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for me, and I hope you
fail. I think it is interesting because

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people are legitimately booing him because they
don't like him, and mostly people boo

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people for fun, like Don Kallis, So I don't know something there's some

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value in that. Wait a minute. I don't think they mowed on Callas

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for the fun of it. I
think they mowed on Callus because they truly

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hate him. But it's I think
it's part of the gimmick. It's I

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agree with Alex, it's they boo
him because they're supposed to boo him and

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they love doing it. Yeah,
and it's fun when it's drowning him out.

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It's Jericho. It is because they
hate him and they want him to

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get off their TV. Well,
here's the thing, this is the way

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I feel about it. I'm sorry
for going on about this, but I

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just have to say this. One
last thing is that Damn Punk when Collisions

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started, when he came back,
he wasn't good. He was not in

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good rest all right. Basically what
combined see Him Punk not being good at

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all when he came back when Collisions
started, he was over exposed while not

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being good at all. And this
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See Him Punk again. Now,
Chris Jericho, to his credit,

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can still go far better than see
Him Punk can. I'm sorry, but

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he can't. He could do moves
still, He could do you know,

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you know whatever he could do.
He could do all of his signature moves

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still, See him Punk can't even
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I don't think he could pick his
nose at this point without tearing his

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byset. So or tri Sarah toops, I don't care you know, so

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that's a I'm sorry, Yeah,
Nett, did you have any thoughts on

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like Chris Jericho Hook. I think
that that entire match could have been maybe

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maybe on Zero Hour. It's it
didn't seem to go with the flow of

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the main show. I like Jericho
in and of himself, but whatever he's

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doing right now, it's it's really
ugh. It's really aggravating, and it's

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it's not funny anymore or entertaining.
It's just it's grating on my nerves.

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For one. Well, Beth,
let me ask you this. Do you

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think that this is actually helping Hook
in any way? Not really, No,

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I don't. I don't see it
helping Hook because Jericho has that that

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way about him and I think we've
all touched on that before, where he

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kind of gets with younger talent and
overshadows them a bit and takes away from

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their shine. And even now with
this match, all we're doing is talking

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about Jericho, you know, who
was there too, and I enjoyed what

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Hook did, but I think what
what Jericho is missing. The point is

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he says he wants to do this, and if you listen to his interviews,

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he does he wants to help the
younger guys get where they want to

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go or they need to go.
The problem is his ego, he says,

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he's like he says one thing and
does something else. He does he

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shouldn't be doing it on camera.
He should be doing a backstage He's not

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got the character the I love Jericho. I've always loved Jericho, but he

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isn't someone that works well with other
people. If you think about all the

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great gimmicks he's done, it's Ben
Jericho except for Jerishow, But it's always

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been Jericho by himself, not with
the group, not with the tag team,

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not having somebody in his wing.
So I think it's come to the

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point where somebody needs to tell him, hey, dude, you gotta you

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gotta stop doing it this way and
do it the right way. Well,

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you know, let's let's move on. We're gonna move on to the next

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match was which was the trio's match
between the whatever they call themselves is the

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Rated Hard Raided R Chicken Farts and
the House of Black Whatever. Full disclosure,

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I always saw about the second I
saw this about six seconds in this

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match. I'm not gonna you know. The six seconds I saw was very

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fortunate. I turned it on,
turned off the TV, turned it back

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on to see if it was over
yet, and I saw Eddie Kings didn't

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have his unfortunate you know, losing
battle with the rig ropes, and I

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turned it back off again. But
what did you guys think of this match?

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I thought it was a good match. I enjoyed. I mean,

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it was good interaction. I thought
it was a good a good match.

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I would have given it a B
minus the fact that House of Black didn't

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lose made it a little bit better. Because they've been losing so many matches

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for so long. It's nice to
see them actually win something for a change.

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And I think it's gonna get a
good stepping stone to set up uh

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Copeland versus Black eventually for the title. Okay, yeah, that seems to

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be the prevailing thought of the Red
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you getting that, Yeah, somebody
called us somebody we're doing this recording God

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Discord and somebody called us in the
middle of the what Yeah, yeah,

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so MK is the is the guilty
party? Ah? Anyway on my phone.

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I heard it on my computer two
rooms away. Yeah, there we

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go. Let's continue to talk to
talk about this trios matches. Anybody else

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have anything to say about this?
I don't even think that even chimed in,

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I don't know. It wasn't that
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I'm I think it was fun and
action packed, but it wasn't really anything

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over the top. I'm looking forward
to seeing if that's what's going to happen

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Malachi Black used more in singles matches
and eventually fight Copeland. But you know,

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it's good. I liked a lot
of the the Mark Brisco action in

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the match. It was nice to
see him. I think he's getting back

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to his old self and it's it's
nice to see him again. So I

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enjoyed that. But that was all
right. I guess i'd give it a

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B if I had to rate it. M hm, yeah, yeah,

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I feel the same as Natt.
I think it was a good, like

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action packed, fun match. I
really liked the ending with Malachi Black missing

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Adam Copeland and Adam and Malachi Black
was kind of like ducking Adam Copeland the

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whole match, like avoiding fighting him. So yeah, I think they're very

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clearly setting up a singles match with
them, and I wonder, you know,

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could we see a singles title reign
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I'd be pretty interested in that.
So, yeah, you think,

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maybe Alex that this is a way
to set up Malachi Black and maybe Brodie

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Kinger Buddy Matthews for a tag team
run against Christian and Copeland. Yeah,

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I could see like House of Black
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in a situation where he needs back
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Mark and anybody else that would help
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lead to Christian being the one to
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because we haven't seen Christian in a
long time now, Yes, since

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he lost it, right, I
was kind of wondering about that. Where

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he's Where is Christian? Is he
that devastated that he lost the match?

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I guess Spike didn't do a little
damage hanging out with Mother Wayne. He'll

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be okay. Well, I have
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but it'll be later on in the
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what's going on out with Christian and
his patriarchy. M okay, So let's

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switch to the next match. Moving
up, we had Willow versus Julia Hart

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in a very short match, with
Willow winning the championship. Yeah. I

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thought like Willow looked good, she
had some good power moves, but it

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was just short and weird, weirdly
short. Whether Julia was injured or got

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injured during the match, I don't
know. Well, she's supposed to have

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the shorter injuries, and you know
that didn't make any sense to have.

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She didn't do anything in the the
tag match on Dynamite really except for coming

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in and use the there was a
chain for a minute. Uh. So

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I was really disappointed that they did
this match like they did. It didn't

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do it, didn't do justice to
either one of them. No, No,

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I agree with you. I mean
this match, frankly should have never

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happened. One. Julia is injured, and you could clearly see that she

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was injured based on the mixed tag
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She did give Willow credit when Willow
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She did protect Julia's shoulder. But
the way I look at it again,

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this match should have never happened.
First of all, you don't put an

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injured wrestler in the I'm surprised Juliet
was cleared if that's even a thing to

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wrestle, because she wasn't able to
do it. And the second thing is

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that Willow in no way, shape
or form earned a shot at that title

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to begin with. I meane it
was just one of those that was a

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means to an end to get Willow
to face per cites tone double on nothing

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and they basically threw Julia under the
bus on this one. However, I

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don't know if you saw the bit
that she did meaning Julia after the show.

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It was a very short spot where
they had her standing in a dark

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corner like she always is with the
eerie lighting, and she was bawling her

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eyes out and just literally, I
mean really water works coming out, you

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know. And she didn't say a
word, but Brody King came up to

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her, took off took off his
jacket, which I don't know why he's

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wearing a jacket, but he kind
of wrapped it around Julia's shoulders and said

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rebuild and somebody needs to mute please, said rebuild. And when Julia kind

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of stopped sniffling and kind of looked
up at the camera, with this ghastly

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evil look at her eye. You
know, so when Mercedes Monette, when

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Julia was when Mercedes Monet came in, Remember Julia was kind of sort of

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injured at that point too. This
has been really rough month or so for

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Julia. The problem was is that
you know that was the problem. You

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know that she was injured. But
when Mercedes smoking and A came in,

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they said that they had big plans
for Julia in the future. This is

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not over for Julia. I mean, I think the end game is.

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I think I really do think Julia
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and I would not be surprised that
Double or Nothing is either a three way

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or a way for Julia could has
that that rematch clause she could take on

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the person right after Double or Nothing
and take the championship back. But I

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kind of don't want Julia to have
this championship back. I think Julia should

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go to UH to UH World title. I think I think Julie should be

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going to going to start him anyway, like I think they should have added

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a third person to this match.
Then you're gonna have an actual match and

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hid Julia's injury and then Julia doesn't
even need to take the pin, Like,

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yeah, it's kind of weird that
they had it at all. Mm

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hmm, Okay, anybody else said
anything to say, I would say,

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yeah, this is the weakest match
of the curve. It was, you

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know, I just did. I
just didn't think that this match should have

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happened at all. I mean,
it wasn't fair to Julia, and Willow

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did not earn it. Julia beat
Willow twice recently. There was no reason

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for this match to happen. Maybe
this is why the week, why the

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rankings are not working, and why
they went away to begin with. Yeah,

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yeah, I think one one other
thing I'd say, like, if

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you had high hopes for for the
women's division after Mercedes Monique came in,

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I think this would be a little
bit extra disappointing on top of that,

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because yeah, it was really a
kind of a nothing match. And if

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you're if you're if the plane goes
to what it's supposed to go to,

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will is going to have the title
for a month because Mercedes is going to

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probably beat her for it at double
or nothing, and you really don't have

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a reason to keep the title on
her other than that I mean, she's

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you know what I mean. They're
not going to have Mercedes go against Willow

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and lose. That would be crazy. Yeah, but that again, when

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you look at it, why would
Mercedes win the match at double or nothing

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because everybody expects it. Would it
be better to su perhaps make a surprise

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and have Willow win it so that
like will becomes kind of like Mercedes's scryptonite.

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That could That could work, But
I'm not I'm not counting that to

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happen because that's not normally how Tony
works things anymore. Yeah, you know

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what I mean. I mean it. I get what you're saying, and

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I agreed, I think that,
but you I don't see him give him

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money a loss in her first match. Mm hmm. Right. I think

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it would be better. I think
it would be great for Willow and be

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more interesting, But yeah, I
don't see it happening either. You gotta

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feel bad for Willow. I mean, first of all, she didn't earn

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this match. Second of all,
she's winning it and then she's gonna lose

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it within a month. Well,
the only other thing, cycle, the

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only thing that that that would make
sense is if they did and this all

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comes down to how hurt is Julia. Is it something that's like just a

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nagging injury that if she gets a
month off it'll be okay, or just

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something more than that. But if
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could lead to a all in or
all out I'm all out the London Show.

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It can lead all in, okay, it can lead to Julia versus

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Mercedes. Have Julia beat Willow at
it for the title back and then have

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those two go at it at all
out all in. That would be really

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I agree with you that Mercedes is
going to be the biggest name as far

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as the women's division goes at all
in and having her lose it all in

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will elevate whoever she loses to,
whether it's Willow, whether it's somebody else,

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whether it's Julia, it's going to
elevate them. It's going to be

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their moment and I will make and
create a superstar in my opinion. You

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know, so I think that you're
going down the right path there. It

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will definitely be an interesting month.
Well let's move on because we've got actually

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the match that opened the actual pay
per view, and you know, I'm

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gonna say his name this way because
I do so enjoy saying it this way,

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Kazu Chica Okata against Paca Ka's Chica. I just I don't know why.

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I just enjoy saying that like that
because I'm weird. But anyway,

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this was a great way to open
the show, wouldn't you agree? Yeah?

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Yeah, this is a match second
best match of the night. Yeah,

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I don't know, like I This
and the FTR match I guess are

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like two A and two B for
me. But yeah, this is a

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really good match. Okatta is such
a star. He was so good when

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he did his pose in the middle, fingers and the lake. Yeah,

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this was a fantastic match. It
was a great way to open the show.

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Great finish. Yeah, I loved
it. It was great. Yeah,

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go ahead, I'm sorry. I
think it was a great use of

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their time as well. It was
a thirty minute match, and I think

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they used every minute of those thirty
minutes to really put something fantastic together.

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I feel like it went by so
fast because it was action pat and I

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really liked it. I thought that
that pack was really good. Okada.

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I like him anyway. I like
to see him when he faces shorter opponents.

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For some reason, he seems to
do really well with those that are

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shorter than him. He knows how
to balance things out, and I I

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just really like it. I think
that Pax stood out a lot. You

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got to see a lot of what
he can do. And I've missed him

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as he's been gone here and there, so it was really nice to see

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him back and remember why he stands
out. So it was one of my

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favorites. I'm glad they opened with
it. You hear that's po Net wanting

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to face Oda. I mean,
your your short ass is gonna put on

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a fantastic match. Then yeah,
you know, so who else wants to

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talk about this match? SnO oh? I thought it was a great match.

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I loved uh. You know,
I've been watching Kada for about I

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started watching him the in twenty twenty
in the January, right before the everything

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went broke all hell broke loose in
the matches that we're going on there in

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Japan. My son got me into
it. Then I thought, he is

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one of the best that's out there
right now. He just is. So

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he's one of those guys that can
just about do anything and can make anybody

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look good no matter what's going on, and that's impressive, especially for a

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guy his size, because he's a
big guy. I mean, he really

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is a tall guy. So you
know, sometimes when you have those things,

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and I'm six foot four, so
I've always been considered a taller person,

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it's sometimes hard to make people look, you know, when you're that

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tall to be able to do some
of the stuff that he can do.

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So he does do a very good
job of it. I love watching him

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wrestle. Yeah, I agree with
you. Yeah. I have to give

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props to Pack here because one of
the things I've always said about AW as

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a whole is that my favorite wrestlers
in the AW were the ones that can

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sell. Is a fantastic seller,
and that's why I love him. Pack

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is an incredibly good seller. And
I just love watching Pack get just like

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even a basic move, he acts
like he just folds. He just folds

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upon himself. I mean he just
puts it over so well. And I

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appreciate that so much. And I
wish I could see I mentioned this last

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week. I hope this isn't the
end of the Pack. At Kasuka Okaday

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story, they did that DDT on
the outside of the ring where Okada had

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him draped over the barricade and pack. He took it so well, like

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just fully on the head and then
flipped over and I think he was like

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shaking afterwards. Yeah, yeah,
I thought he was. Yeah, it

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look really good, really really good. Yeah. I mean, when you

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can't tell whether they're selling or they're
actually injured, you know who else does

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a really good job with that?
And this may surprise you. But when

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it comes to are they injured or
are they just selling? Brit Baker does

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a fantastic job of that. I'm
sorry, but she does. Sorry elf,

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but Grit Baker, Rit Baker,
Brit Baker can sell. She's really

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good. Of course a lot of
times she's selling, you know the broken

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nose that actually did happen, because
nobody was broken like Brit Baker. But

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I do appreciate that, I really
do. I'm not even going to go

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there, going to go there,
especial especially since today is Jamie Hayter.

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Yeah, and Brit Baker's birthday.
So happy birthday, ladies, and I

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for one can't wait to get both
of you back at the AW because they

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do have a lot to contribute.
Happy birthday. I need a petition to

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having my birthday change My birthday is
on Sunday, and I just don't know

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if I can share the same month. You just gotta find out, find

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out WHA's birthday is. You can
share the month with him. It's sad

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because I share a birthday with Jay
Leno and the late Despicable Hassan Saddam Hussein.

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So yeah, birthday you can't change
now. I'm thinking about it for

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years. And this might be the
the straw that broke the camel's back.

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Is that joke? It's a Baker
dig But I agree with you. I

407
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:46.719
mean, the the other one that's
really good at that that's there now is

408
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:52.599
Brian Danielson, although sometimes I think
he does it a little too much.

409
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:59.440
Yeah, we'll get to that there, Okay, Yeah, next match F

410
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:04.639
t R versus the Bucks ladder match. So this was the second last match

411
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:07.400
of the card, and you know, after the match before it, they

412
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:12.880
had a tough job to do of
pulling the crowd back, and I thought

413
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:17.199
they they really went all out and
put their bodies on the line and almost

414
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:22.199
killed themselves. But they put on
a great ladder match, I thought.

415
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.760
And a lot of times, like
we give ladder matches that are just kind

416
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:30.360
of a cluster of like six guy
ladder match that's not that memorable. But

417
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.639
I thought this. I really liked
this match. I liked it a lot.

418
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.840
We had the crazy ending with probably
not that crazy. I think a

419
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:45.039
lot of us probably predicted it with
Jack Perry coming out. Yeah, I

420
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:49.480
like this match. It was maybe
my second favorite match of the card,

421
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:55.280
but uh probably tied at least with
the the pawc Ocada match. I was

422
00:36:55.639 --> 00:37:00.760
disappointed. Go ahead, now,
go I was. I love the match.

423
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:07.800
Match was great. The bucks that
I think that's their third ladder match

424
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.920
that I've seen them in in a
W and they always put on a great

425
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.760
match in those. They rival Some
of the ones they've done have rivaled the

426
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:21.119
originals with the Hardy's and and those
guys. But Jack Perry entrance, the

427
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.400
whole thing with that, I just
think they they totally should not have done

428
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:29.559
it that way because it made no
sense. They they blew They they could

429
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:31.360
have and they should have and it
would have. It depends. I guess

430
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:35.599
it's gonna depend on where he comes
in. If he's gonna you know,

431
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:37.760
he helped them out, but that
doesn't mean he's gonna be with him.

432
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:44.559
The elite sign okay, so why
not? And they've been doing This is

433
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.920
where it disappointed me. The elite
they he's they you know, he's going

434
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:55.559
on about how, uh, he's
not going the perry. No. The

435
00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.639
announcers, they're going on about how
he's not there. He shouldn't be there.

436
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:05.239
It's illegal. He jumped over the
barrier. He's trespassing. It would

437
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.360
have been the perfect opportunity because then
the match is over. All they had

438
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:13.400
to do is play the ladder.
The EVPs should have went into EVP mode

439
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:17.599
and told the guards leave him alone
and then he celebrated, but they didn't.

440
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.960
And now, to me, just
it just ruined the whole thing.

441
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.679
There's no sense in having him do
it because he was there for two seconds,

442
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.320
he knocked one guy off the ladder, gave him the win, but

443
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.039
then he's being escorted out of the
ring. It didn't make no sense because

444
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:38.440
technically he's not out of contract with
AW so it's not trespassing. I was

445
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:43.199
just part of the show, I
know, but it's just I know what

446
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.679
you're saying because I'm big on logic. What about you and net, I

447
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:52.000
mean, how did you feel about
this match? I think that maybe the

448
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:59.760
EVPs will address the behavior of Jack
Perry next week. They'll give them something

449
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:07.320
that's talk about about how you know
he he broke some rules there. I

450
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.960
I loved the match. I love
seeing the e vps and ladder matches.

451
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:22.519
It's some of my favorite thing in
wrestling with them. They did a lot

452
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:28.800
of good stuff. I like to
throwback to the to the earlier matches when

453
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:35.599
I was in Hardwood took off Matt
Shoe. M h. Yeah, that's

454
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:40.400
that's like a throwback to like one
of their first matches together in a w

455
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.960
and I caught it. I don't
know how many other people people caught that,

456
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:54.000
but I thought that that was pretty
neat, and I like the chance

457
00:39:54.079 --> 00:40:00.559
from the crowds telling them to be
careful. It's that everyone was into the

458
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:07.960
match and enjoying what they were seeing. I really liked it. I thought

459
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:14.360
FTR also really held their own and
on a good performance. They didn't disappoint

460
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:20.559
either. And you know, I
I did not kind of spoil this one

461
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.039
for myself, so I really didn't
know who was going to win. So

462
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:27.320
I was kind of on the edge
of my seat during the whole match about

463
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:32.679
who was really going to take it
until Jack Perry with that porcelain face came

464
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:42.599
running out there. It was was
that porcelain like Dalface. Did you guys

465
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:47.159
see the fan video that showed Jack
Perry walking into the arena from yeah way

466
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:51.800
and he was walking and the woman
that was taken I guess it was the

467
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:52.840
I know it was a woman.
I don't know if she was actually taking

468
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.000
a video, but I assumed she
was taking the video he was. He

469
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.239
walked in and he walked, you
know, good between the aisles, like

470
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.440
three hundred feet, and she as
soon as she saw, she's like,

471
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:07.679
there's there. He is, you
know, she tagged it right away.

472
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.000
I was pretty impressed with that look. Earlier in the show that I had

473
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.920
said that I had a little bit
of a prediction about Jack Perry. Here's

474
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:19.000
my prediction. I think you're gonna
see, and I'm going to base this

475
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:27.079
on something that happened shortly after Jack
Perry was suspended, and what he did

476
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:35.400
was he trademarked Jurassic Express. I
think you're going to see. I think

477
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.320
you're going to see eventually, probably
not right away, but I think you're

478
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:45.400
going to see eventually Jack Perry get
back together with Lucasaurus, not kill switch,

479
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:51.440
because I think that patriarchy is going
to go bye bye, because Christian

480
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:58.039
is going to go with Copeland.
So that tag team, though I don't

481
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.039
know, you know, I'm just
saying that they. I haven't gotten that

482
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.480
far yet, you know, But
I did say that. So let's get

483
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:09.599
onto the nets match. Next next
match, which featured Adam Cole getting out

484
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:15.199
of his wheelchair and walking rather sprightly
down the ramp to the ring. I

485
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:20.960
say that about the match because I
couldn't give a rats ass about this match.

486
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:28.480
I'm sorry. Roderick Strong is just
you know, Roderick Strong is the

487
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:32.639
curity in security insomnia to me,
And I'm sorry. I love Kyle O'Reilly

488
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:37.519
when he was here before, but
he's he just there's something odd about him.

489
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:42.440
He kind of looks like two day
o cadaver to me. I mean,

490
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.239
he just doesn't look right. I
mean, yeah, but he was

491
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.960
diabetic, but he looked good what
he was here before. Yeah, he

492
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.519
just I get nervous watching him.
He just does not look right. His

493
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:57.719
collar is off, his eyes are
sunken. Uh, the long hair is

494
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.360
doing nothing for him. He just
looked like I mean, I mean it

495
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:05.239
looks like if if I were going
to cast a cadaver for a remake of

496
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:08.559
Weekend at Bernie's, I would cast
Kyle O'Reilly, you know, because I

497
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:10.920
mean, he just looks the part. I mean, he's scared. I'm

498
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:15.880
not saying that to be insulting.
I'm really concerned for him. But you

499
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:19.039
know, hey, we knew that
Roderick Strong was going to win this match.

500
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.960
The Undisputed Kingdom can't lose a belt
like this, you know, on

501
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:30.280
the first defense, because this was
Roderick Strong's first defense. It's this match,

502
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:36.559
This match one of the worst matches
of the night, not for the

503
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:42.719
wrestling, but because it was essentially
a glorified jobber match. I'm sorry,

504
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.480
but it was. Yeah, Like
I enjoyed the match itself, Like I

505
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:52.760
think, yeah, some of the
storytelling around it, Undisputed Kingdom has not

506
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:58.480
been a strong point of the show, and I think that being the main

507
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:02.280
story behind this makes it less interesting. But like the match itself. Roderick

508
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:07.559
Strong, like the announcers were saying
that he's he's kind of like this generation's

509
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:10.840
Dean Malenko, And I always think
that when I look at him, just

510
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.199
something about him looks like Dean Malenko
like his body shape, but yeah,

511
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:21.519
he's he's a super talented wrestler,
and he's also a guy that's into like

512
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:25.320
martial arts and carries a lot of
that in how he wrestles. And same

513
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:31.159
with Kyle o'reiley. They're both like
hard hitting, technical wrestlers and that I

514
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:37.840
find it really fun to watch that
style of match. So I enjoyed the

515
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.519
match itself. I'd probably say it's
like the fifth best match of the go

516
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:45.119
for me. I'd give it probably
like a B plus rather than a D

517
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:52.360
minus. And I thought when when
Adam cole came out at the end and

518
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:58.079
he looked at Wardlow, he gave
him like a death stare, I thought

519
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:02.480
that that was probably the most interesting
thing that the Undisputed Kingdom has done in

520
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:08.400
months. So yeah, thank god
they have Adam Cole back, because he's

521
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:14.920
a super talented guy and he's interesting
and he can make that group a lot

522
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:25.360
more exciting. No one else says
anything to say thinking about it, I

523
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.719
actually would have put that match on
the pre show and moved the Trio's title

524
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:36.599
match to the show compared to the
two because I just don't see anything good

525
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:42.079
about Roderick strong. Don't like his
act. He's not a strong character in

526
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:47.119
the group, you know, his
whole Adam, that whole thing got on

527
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:51.840
my nerves like two minutes after it
started, because it's just it's just I

528
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.719
don't know, it's just degrading on
my nerves and it's just juvenile. Yeah,

529
00:45:54.760 --> 00:46:00.599
it's not only that, but a
good way and huh yeah, well

530
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:02.760
you know seriously though, because a
lot of rustlers at their gimmicks, they

531
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:07.199
do juvenile stuff, but it works. This just didn't work right, It

532
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:10.920
didn't work. It's still not working, and it will continue not to work.

533
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.119
I mean, he's not really changed
from that. The thought the thing

534
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:21.760
I thought was funny was or there
was was good about it was the fact

535
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.440
after the fact, finding out that
Wardlow was in an accident before that happened,

536
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:30.280
right his car up against the guard
rail. He looked like you could

537
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:32.519
have been in really bad shape,
and uh you really couldn't tell anything was

538
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:35.960
wrong with him. So that was
kind of a good thing. But uh,

539
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.800
I see, ah, I see
a cutting of the strings with him,

540
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:44.199
which would be a good thing for
Wardlow. Yeah, but poor Wordlow,

541
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:45.639
he had he's kind of lost,
you know, so I hope he

542
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:50.000
does find something to do, whether
on his own or with other people.

543
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.559
Not did you get a chance to
think about it yet? Do you have

544
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:58.119
anything to say about this match?
I think that the problem with there was

545
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:01.679
a problem with that match. I
think it is overall quite good, but

546
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:08.199
you have to really be the kind
of wrestling fan that likes the hitting and

547
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:16.159
the counters to the hitting and not. That's not everyone's cup of tea.

548
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:22.239
So I think that's kind of where
it fell flat. But I think the

549
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:29.119
wrestling itself from them both was good. I agree roder Strong gets on my

550
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:35.719
nerves beyond belief. And I don't
know what's going on with Kyle O'Reilly.

551
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:42.079
Maybe he's changing his look or something
and we're kind of seeing the before stages

552
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:47.679
with him. He's always been he's
always been kind of weird and hunched over

553
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.280
like you don't think of it,
but he's always kind of been a weird

554
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:57.880
guy. Yeah, it always reminded
me of the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

555
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.719
Yes, there's something about them.
I think they were both good physically.

556
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.960
There was like a lot of good
physical action and I don't know what Wardlow

557
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:12.960
was doing. They they've got to
get some help out there for Wardlow.

558
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:21.440
I don't know what though, and
Adam Adams looks to Wardlow keep making me

559
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.280
wonder what they're going to do,
but they never seem to really execute whatever

560
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:30.519
the plan is. So I hope
they do that sooner than later. M

561
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:37.519
Yeah, that's it. Well,
let's move on to the AW Women's World

562
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:45.000
Championship match between Timeless Stony's Timeless Stony
listen to me, Timeless Tony Storm and

563
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:52.679
thunder Rosa. Alex, what is
your overall thoughts on this match? Okay?

564
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:58.400
I thought it was probably one of
Tony storms better matches than their last

565
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:02.239
few, definitely better than the one
against Tianna Piazzo. But it felt like

566
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:09.079
once it got going, it went
a little bit more and then it ended

567
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:14.119
like it never hit that next gear
that I really want to see them,

568
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:20.920
especially compared to like Danielson or the
FTR match or Pacocatta, Like, you

569
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.880
know, they're not putting, they're
not putting on that type of epic match

570
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:30.719
and they should have with like Tony
Storm and thunder Rosa. So I do

571
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.519
feel myself wanting more and it does
kind of take a back seat to some

572
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:42.280
of those bigger matches because they're just
not Yeah, they're just not kicking it

573
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.239
up to that gear. So yeah, I was I didn't hate it,

574
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:51.440
but I was a little bit disappointed. I was. I was disappointed also

575
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.400
just because I didn't want that outcome. But I thought Thunder looked better in

576
00:49:54.480 --> 00:50:00.000
that match than she has in recent
matches. I thought she she she really

577
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.280
went after what she wanted to go
after, and she was herself more than

578
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.400
she's been in the past. But
there, You're right, there's something that's

579
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.920
I don't know if for me,
if it's because Tony is only the fourth

580
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.679
defense she's had it since she's had
the title, and she's had it for

581
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:19.920
a while. I mean, only
to have four defenses in that amount of

582
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:23.800
time seems kind of bad to me. But I think it's she when she's

583
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:29.760
in her matches, her character that
she is doing so well with is holding

584
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:34.079
her back. It just seems that
way to me in the ring, because

585
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:39.960
before she became this character, I
feel that she did it so much better

586
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:44.559
and so much stronger in her matches
than she's doing now. Just seem that

587
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:52.079
way to me. Anyway, I
agree with you, Yeah, her character

588
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:55.239
work has been great in rings,
she's not been good and this match was

589
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:59.360
not good. It was just not
good. I'm sorry, but it wasn't

590
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.920
It never played toad like Alex said, Uh, it just never reached a

591
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:09.119
crescendo. It just kind of like
the adrenaline never hit, you know.

592
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:14.320
And I don't know whose fault it
was, or if it was one woman's

593
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:16.159
fault or the other women's fault,
but this match was a snooze fest.

594
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:21.679
I'm sorry, but it was.
What did you think that? Oh,

595
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:24.679
I'm sorry. I like seeing Deanna
come out and fight with Mariah May.

596
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.239
That was one of the things I
enjoyed. I thought. Then Rosa was

597
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:37.440
really good. But one of the
things I often wonder when I watch women's

598
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:44.400
wrestling in AW is if the women
are actually holding back a little bit.

599
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:52.440
It's it makes me wonder across a
couple of matches and if that's because of

600
00:51:52.480 --> 00:52:00.159
the the audience. I was reading
an article about wrestling and it was why

601
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:06.559
there are no intergender matches in AEW
and it made me start to think about

602
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:10.800
the women's division as well. And
I've started to wonder if the women hold

603
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:20.519
back because there's a perception that no
one really wants to see women really fight

604
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:25.440
and bloody one another, and you
know, really get down and dirty and

605
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.960
cheat and pull out all the tricks
and you know, hit each other with

606
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:36.679
chairs and put each other through tables. If they kind of hold back and

607
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:43.199
everything is just put into a little
box where you fight, but you don't

608
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:47.920
fight. If that mats, I
don't agree with that, because two of

609
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:58.039
the best women's matches you've had on
AEW was the Thunder rusat Baker Cage match

610
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:02.400
and the street fight between J TJ
and I can't remember who they wrestled,

611
00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:09.559
and the lights out match that was
probably one money. Yeah, that was

612
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:13.679
one hell of a match, and
they didn't hold back. That was blood,

613
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:19.000
sweat, tears everywhere. So I
think, I think what the part

614
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:22.840
of it that do agree with is. I think what happened with that match

615
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:27.159
especially, is it seemed like to
me that whenever Tony would take control,

616
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:35.159
her playing in character would break the
flow of the match. If you go

617
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.679
back and you watch the match,
Thunder would get the head of steam going

618
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:42.800
and she would start to go where
she goes. Tony would take over control

619
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:46.639
and then instead of continuing like she
used to do before she became this star,

620
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:52.239
she would walk around the ring,
walk away from Thunder, would talk

621
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:57.079
to her, would play to the
crowd more, and then it just breaks

622
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.159
the flow of the match. At
least that's what it seemed like to me.

623
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:04.360
Right, Well, maybe she's on
purpose. Yeah, well, look

624
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.559
in the end, this is the
way I feel about it. I hope

625
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.079
that Jamie Hayter and or Britt Baker
come back soon, because who in the

626
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:15.840
hell is Tony Store going to go
up against next? Heire Hogan? Seriously,

627
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:25.679
you know, Percei's monet is and
I just don't see it. I

628
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.920
know, I just think that I
think that Tony Storm has falling into almost

629
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:40.280
the Jade Cargill kind of category,
where her character is fine, her matches

630
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:49.039
are stale, mm hmm, yeah, her promos are good. Yeah,

631
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:53.119
but you know, I'm watching professional
wrestling. I'm not watching from a world

632
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:57.760
and I know, you know,
the Mariah May stuff's been fun, and

633
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.960
and Mina sher Kawan stuff it's been
interesting. But yeah, this was a

634
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:07.880
real chance to put on like a
great match and show that they could hang

635
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:13.400
with some of these other great wrestlers
like Will Osprey. But they did definitely

636
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:20.239
did not do that well. Speaking
of Will Osprey, Alex, let's move

637
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:24.519
on. Yeah, so yeah,
Button, what did you think of this

638
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:28.599
match? I'll let you go first
before well, look, you know,

639
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:34.239
I'm just gonna say this, this
match was by far the best match of

640
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.320
the night, best match of the
year, maybe even the best match of

641
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:44.719
the century so far. Uh.
I'm just I don't want to repeat anything

642
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:47.199
the one, you know, because
everything we're gonna say is, oh,

643
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:51.719
this was so good, it's so
good, so good whatever. I want

644
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:57.400
to get props to the crowd because
they they didn't even touch each other,

645
00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:00.519
they were standing across from each other, just looking each other, and the

646
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:06.800
crowd lost their ever loving minds.
That was amazing. I got to give

647
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:12.239
props to Saint Louis. The wrestling
crowd at Saint Louis was fantastic. And

648
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:15.000
you can't tell me that that did
affect the match, because I think it

649
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:19.239
hyped up both Danielson and Osprey to
put on the best match they possibly could.

650
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.719
They delivered. The crowd loved it. Every I've not heard anybody say,

651
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.280
well that betch wasn't as good as
people said it. It was every

652
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:29.320
bit as good as everybody said.
It would be, plain and simple.

653
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:34.960
It was it was a fantastic match. The ending. I'm hoping that Brian

654
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.559
Danielson went a little bit over the
top and sold it, but they they

655
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:43.199
did carry it. They did.
You know, it's part of the story.

656
00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:45.679
So let's just see what happens.
I told my son, I said

657
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:52.559
Danielson might want to not wrestle in
another pay per view match, because it

658
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:54.840
seemed like every pay per view he
wrestles in a big match like this,

659
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:59.360
he gets hurt. Even if it's
a work, he still worked that.

660
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:04.760
He got hurt. Okada Forbidden Door
last year broke his arm. This time

661
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:08.920
it was it was a I loved
everything about it. The ending kind of

662
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:14.320
was a little worrisome. They both
sold it really good though. If it's

663
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:17.960
a work, and if you watch
it close, it's a work because there's

664
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.039
there. He didn't hit his head, he landed where he's supposed to land.

665
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.559
It just looked bad. I mean, I watched it. I watched

666
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:29.840
it. Uh. I watched it
on a site I go to that I

667
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:34.119
can get things from on their replay, and I went there and I washed

668
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:37.840
it back and you clearly see him
land on his shoulders like the move is

669
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:43.000
supposed to. But it just he
saw he sells that stuff so good.

670
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:45.360
But I think, like you said, and we said I said earlier,

671
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:52.119
I think he ever sold it a
lot. Yeah. Yeah, it was

672
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:55.199
a shocking moment and it seemed like, oh my god, is he really

673
00:57:55.280 --> 00:58:00.719
hurt. But the fact that he
got up and walked out perfect for the

674
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:04.960
Hidden Blade afterwards, I think that
made me feel like, Okay, this

675
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:08.719
is this is clearly just part of
it, and they're kind of making that

676
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:16.000
move more important and building some story
around that, and it's maybe gonna lead

677
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:22.639
to will ospray. You know,
maybe in the future he loses a match

678
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:29.440
because he's no longer willing to go
to that level. He's retiring the move,

679
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:34.280
yeah, he said. And I
think that's probably just a storyline thing,

680
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.519
like maybe now he can pull it
out again and everyone's like, oh

681
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:42.639
my god, he's he's pulled out
the retired move. Yeah. I feel

682
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:46.159
like it's all just part of the
story. But I don't know. Sometimes

683
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:52.280
I'm just completely wrong with that and
he's really hurt though I don't know,

684
00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:58.960
we'll find out later. Yeah,
but yeah, what I want to say,

685
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:04.159
like, this is a thirty minute
match. It was amazing. I

686
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.079
know, it was great because the
fact that I was able to watch it

687
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:09.679
again with my wife because she missed
it. So I watched it twice,

688
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:15.800
and the second time I watched it, I wanted it to keep going longer

689
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:19.360
than it was. Like I I
could see the end was happening, and

690
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:22.599
I was like, oh, like, that's too bad. I wanted to

691
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.760
keep going, and I remembered it
going longer though I don't know, Yeah,

692
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:30.400
it was a really great match,
and like fifteen minutes into it,

693
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:34.960
I was watching and I was thinking
in my head like, uh, you

694
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:39.519
know, this isn't anything too special
so far, and then it I think

695
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:44.039
it was. I don't know,
there was some point where it just really

696
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:47.559
clicked for me, and I would
like I thought it was like all good

697
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:51.519
wrestling matches. It started off as
a chess match and then turned into a

698
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:54.679
hockey fight basically. So, but
no, what did you think about this?

699
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:01.880
It's one of the best matches I've
scene I I liked it. I

700
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:09.920
liked everything about it. I think
that Don Callous did a very good job

701
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:22.639
of planting the seeds that he has
been doing about Osprey having too much that

702
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:28.960
he likes his opponents too much to
be in the callous family that he's not

703
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:34.960
as disrespectful and as hardened. You
know, he wants to be friends and

704
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:42.159
respect everybody. I think that Danielson
very well may be hurt because that was

705
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:46.400
a hard hitting match. Maybe he
sold it a little bit, went a

706
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:50.519
little over the top with how much
he's hurt, but I think he might

707
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:55.840
be hurt. I really liked it
all all around. I thought it was

708
01:00:55.960 --> 01:01:04.119
great. So yeah, as anybody
else has anything to say about this match

709
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:09.280
at all before we moved on to
the main event. All right, so

710
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:13.760
let's move on to the main event, which was We're Strickland against Samoa Joe

711
01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:17.960
for the aw Men's World Championship.
Look, I'm just gonna go ahead and

712
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:24.000
say it. This was a good
moment, not a great match. I

713
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:28.840
mean it was obvious Samoa Joe basically
laid down for Swerve Strickland. I mean,

714
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:34.119
there was nothing special about the match
at all, but it provided a

715
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:39.679
great moment. I'm happy for Swerve. I you know, I think Samoa

716
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:46.119
Joe did a fantastic job with the
belt and kept it interesting, and that's

717
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:50.840
really all I have to say about
it. Mm hmm, Yeah, I

718
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:57.760
think I agree fully. It was
like because the FTR Bucks match was so

719
01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:00.800
good and that was in the death
spot. It's like, now the main

720
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:06.840
event is now the death spot because
for me, I can barely even remember

721
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:14.519
this match after those two matches,
Like you're coming down and I wasn't fully

722
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:19.159
paying attention. I started paying attention
when it was like close to the end

723
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:23.239
and it looked like Swerve was finally
taking it home. Nice for Swerve to

724
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:29.280
win, But yeah, I think
this match definitely suffered just from being the

725
01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:35.079
last match on a pretty stacked card, especially the last three matches being so

726
01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:40.480
good. Yeah, they need to
start rethinking that a little bit in some

727
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:45.679
ways, because they do that sometimes
too much. But they'll have a very

728
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:52.280
superior match, like the opening match
with Akata and Pack was far better than

729
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:57.719
the final match, and it just
doesn't make any sense to put those matches

730
01:02:57.760 --> 01:03:01.159
in that order, especially when you're
not going to give them people the match

731
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:06.400
they want to see. Yeah,
you know, it did. I don't

732
01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:12.719
really remember much of except I know
that there was a a a was it

733
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:15.559
a slam on the concrete on the
outside The Swerve got slam in the concrete

734
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:19.199
for a second, and then you
just seemed to be the next thing,

735
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:22.639
you know, within five or ten
minutes he went in the title and that

736
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:27.599
was like, okay, yeah,
it was. It was. It was

737
01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:30.559
a cookie cutter match, It really
was, you know, and I don't

738
01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:35.320
mean that disrespectfully, but they just
to me, it was like, okay,

739
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:38.159
let's just get this over with.
M You know, there was nothing

740
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:40.920
special about the match to me.
I don't know how there you know,

741
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:46.559
if you found anything special about it, but nope, you know you and

742
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:51.320
I felt that way a lot about
Samoa. Joe kind of in general,

743
01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:57.800
like he's he's great, he's he's
believable as a champion. You believe he

744
01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:02.039
can beat anyone up, but in
terms of like match quality, he's maybe

745
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:09.360
not the greatest guy to put on
awesome made event world title matches. Kind

746
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:11.679
of get what you're saying. But
you know what the thing about somehow with

747
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:17.880
Joe is that he believes his character
believes that it is believable. His character

748
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:21.760
believes that he can beat anybody up, and you buy into that, even

749
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:26.880
though he may not beat the most
you know, flippity floppity athletics, handsprings

750
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:30.039
and all that kind of stuff.
Dives off the top of a rope kind

751
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:32.199
of guy. You know, I
was a little I don't even remember if

752
01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:38.519
he did his nope move during the
match. I mean, the matches seemed

753
01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:45.800
there to me. M yeah,
yeah, yeah. It was just too

754
01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:50.719
tired. Yeah yeah, yeah,
when you're talking about zero hour and then

755
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:55.000
a four hour pay per view,
five hours worth of wrestling after we just

756
01:04:55.119 --> 01:05:00.000
had three hours of collision and rampage
the night before. Yeah, I mean,

757
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:01.719
and you're a little bit burned out, you know. But you know,

758
01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:05.360
I want to move on. Let's
go ahead and do our Dynamite preview.

759
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:10.320
There's really not a whole lot to
talk about here, because, like

760
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:14.840
we've already talked about Chris Jericho,
who is going to be appearing on Dynamite

761
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.480
for the Learning Tree segment. I
guess is the best. But we've already

762
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:24.719
talked about that, you know,
So let's move on up to just a

763
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:30.480
segment between Chuck Taylor and Trent Burretta
and Orange Cassidy in what I can only

764
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:36.239
describe as a eighth grade schoolgirl pow
wow in the playground while playing Hopscotch,

765
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:45.760
Who's your best friend? Yeah?
I'm here for it. I like it.

766
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:53.519
I like this version of Trent Evil. Trent I'm curious to see what

767
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:59.480
happens because I really think Chuck Taylor
could go with Trent. They've been friends

768
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:03.239
longer. And also one thing that's
interesting about this. It was like a

769
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:10.840
Don Kallas tweet about looking for new
members of the Don Kallis family and it

770
01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:14.639
might be people you don't think of. So I think Trent could be a

771
01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:18.960
good candidate for joining the Don Kallas
family in the near future. You know,

772
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:23.480
I really, I mean, I
really kind of think you're right there,

773
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:31.800
because he would look great on that
painting. Yeah, and if they

774
01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:36.400
add him, we definitely know the
painting is changing. But the problem with

775
01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:40.360
that part is if they're going to
put him with Donkallas, you can't take

776
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:44.960
Chuck with him, because Chuck,
no way and hell fits with no Yeah,

777
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:53.719
no, not Chucky. Somebody to
take pins Callas's butler. Again,

778
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:59.159
I guess I thought that they said
that Chuck and Orange had been friends longer,

779
01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:03.079
but they but Chuck and Trent had
been tagging for ten years. That's

780
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:09.119
what I'm thinking. Yeah, wrestling
wise, they were the best friends before

781
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:14.719
Orange Cassidy. I must just I
could have swore lest what they said,

782
01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:16.400
but I might have misheard it.
But I don't know, this is just

783
01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:21.679
gonna be one of those things.
It's I'm not really it doesn't really matter.

784
01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:30.320
Yeah, well, I mean who's
your best friend? I mean I

785
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:34.239
just mistake ever. Yeah, it's
cool for you, But coming back in

786
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:38.840
this one, well, you know
ed Ka has joyed us now, so

787
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.559
I want to let him. I
mean, is there anything you want to

788
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:45.400
talk about with Chris Jericho or even
you could even talk about Chris Jericho,

789
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:48.880
but of course we want to hear
your thoughts on the who's your best friend?

790
01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:56.599
I you know, I'm interested in
and in both of those honestly,

791
01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:03.320
because Jericho. I I'm just I'm
sorry. I'm I'm a comment watcher everywhere

792
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:09.280
I go and I like to see
people reaction, and people are going ballistic

793
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:12.400
over this Jericho winning, which we
all predicted it would happen, I believe

794
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:15.599
most of us did, and people
are like, why did he win and

795
01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:17.880
said, well, du he hasn't
continued this story. You know, Jericho's

796
01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:23.079
not gonna lose twice in a row. And he's eating this stuff up,

797
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:26.880
and I hope he leans into it
so much that he you know, he's

798
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:30.600
turning into the very thing that CM
Punk was saying that young wrestlers do and

799
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.479
they don't listen to the learning tree
and all this, and I think that's

800
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:38.039
where it's going. Maybe is a
little slight poke of fun at that thing.

801
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:43.960
But I'm loving it. I know
Alex loves it too. It's just

802
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:47.159
different and people just want to grab
all over Jericho for no reason. I'm

803
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:50.079
sorry. I like the guy.
I know people need to break from him,

804
01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:54.600
but he still does the job that
he needs to do and with Orange

805
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:57.840
Cassidy, and then I love this
too. You know, I still don't

806
01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:03.880
know what was said between bat Lander
and France. You know, something may

807
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:09.880
have been whispered there about why,
and maybe that's why that's really been silent

808
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:15.319
on it too. Maybe there's something
churning with Maybe Orange Cassidy may not be

809
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:19.479
a baby face anymore as he once
was. Maybe something's up with that too,

810
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:26.279
So anything can happen. It's aw
Orange Cassidy became a little stale a

811
01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:30.479
little bit, in my opinion.
Maybe he needs some a good storyline that'll,

812
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:33.840
you lit'll take him on for a
little bit and give him a little

813
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:41.960
more darker edge. So I don't
know. Yeah, well, Orange Cassidy's

814
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.000
been stale since his first run with
the International Championship. That was preposterous.

815
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.920
So, I mean it was like
rinse repeat. You can't tell me you

816
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:54.000
could tell one match from the other. During that whole, like two thirds

817
01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:57.520
of that entire run, everything was
the same exact match over and over again.

818
01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:02.960
It's a waste of time. I
disagree it. I don't think you

819
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:05.319
should have had a second time in
my opinion, that's where I would have

820
01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:10.479
drawn the line. But I think
his first was good. That the second,

821
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:13.600
to me, was better than the
first because at least the second match

822
01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:19.880
had something different happened. The first
one was the same match every week.

823
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:27.720
I agree to disagree, but uh, that's a beautiful thing about wrestling.

824
01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:33.439
Yeah. Well, let's move on
to John Moxley and Powerhouse Hobbs. Look,

825
01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:38.520
I mean, nobody expects Powerhouse Hobbs
to beat John Moxley, but there

826
01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:42.439
may be some story here. I
mean, Powerhouse Hobbs is not going to

827
01:10:42.479 --> 01:10:46.159
be the IWGP World Heavyweight Champion after
tomorrow night, let's just face it.

828
01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:53.720
But could we see some story on
on here? Yeah? I'm interested in.

829
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:57.960
I know Powerhouse Hobbs is not gonna
win, but he could be a

830
01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:02.359
really cool Japan, Like he could
have a really cool run in Japan if

831
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:08.720
he did win, like going back
to like Vader or some of the big

832
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:15.800
American wrestlers that they've had historically over
there. Stan Hansen, he definitely fits

833
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:27.840
in that mold. Yeah, yeah, at one point I believe I would.

834
01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:31.359
I would see him more though with
the Strong title taking it from Eddie

835
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:38.840
mm hmm, but that's more of
like an American title. I'm just thinking,

836
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:43.720
yeah, yeah, yeah, the
Strong, the Strong Championships already American

837
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:48.800
brand of the titles. M you
know, I don't know his name,

838
01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:55.680
but there is that Japanese wrestler that
I believe it was. Earlier today,

839
01:11:56.680 --> 01:12:02.439
uh issued a statement about Powerhouse Hobbs, saying that he could not come to

840
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:08.399
Japan and defend a title, and
Hobbs said, anybody can get it,

841
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:14.279
So Yoda Yoda Suji. He's kind
of one of the up and comer guys.

842
01:12:14.279 --> 01:12:18.640
He's probably like the next face of
New Japan. Well maybe they're making

843
01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:24.039
them. Maybe maybe that's planning a
seat for Forbidden Doormatch that. Yeah.

844
01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:28.840
I'm just saying, maybe he'll he'll
be coming through, because it just seemed

845
01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:32.680
out of nowhere and it made me
say, you know, I wouldn't mind

846
01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:39.720
saying hobbs in Japan, so who
knows. Yeah, yeah, there is

847
01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:45.000
like some storylines going on in New
Japan about how they're feel like, you

848
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:49.640
know, Hiroshi Tanahashi, the president
of New Japan, is favoring aw letting

849
01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:58.119
John Moxley win the title, and
they're showing displeasure and and maybe they're setting

850
01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:01.720
up some more introting matches for Forbidden
Door than they've had in the past,

851
01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:09.760
like moreaks behind them. And I
have a theory about that too. But

852
01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:15.079
you know, let's move on because
we're talking about John Moxley powers There's no

853
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:20.439
way Powerhouse Off is winning the speaking
speaking of no way that they're gonna win.

854
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:27.319
Uh, spur Strickland is making his
first title defense against Kyle Fletcher.

855
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:34.479
Again, this is probably about story
and probably just about giving Swerve a chance

856
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:40.880
to come out there with his brand
new shiny belt and show it off to

857
01:13:41.039 --> 01:13:44.680
the home crowd in Jacksonville, Florida. I mean, what else could it

858
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:47.520
possibly be? Guys? Actually it's
an eliminator match, so you already know

859
01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:55.960
what's gonna happen. Well, I
don't know, I don't know. What's

860
01:13:55.960 --> 01:14:00.479
gonna happen? So tell us it's
when have they had an eliminator match where

861
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:08.159
the challenger is won? I don't
think they've ever. I remember that me

862
01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:12.960
Yamashida beat on the Rosa an eliminator
match in Japan. I remember that.

863
01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:18.439
But I think there's been a couple
more one and so, I mean,

864
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:24.279
it's gonna be good to see him
come out as a champ and and but

865
01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:30.920
I I don't see where it makes
any sense to get he's jumping right into

866
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:35.680
the don Kallis family feud with them
when he's had all this other stuff going

867
01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:40.159
with I guess, I guess you
can't really do it with some mojo and

868
01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:45.520
nobody knows where cowboys at, so
I guess there is a rule. I

869
01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:50.720
guess he's got to start his title
run somewhere. Yeah. Yeah, And

870
01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:56.039
it's it's not even a feud,
it's just that the Callus family jumps into

871
01:14:56.159 --> 01:15:00.319
everything. You can't wrestle one of
them without all of to them getting involved

872
01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:05.159
there like ants. Yeah, they're
like ants at the picnic. So yeah,

873
01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:12.079
Kyle Fletcher is like he's a level
above Shane Taylor promotion Brian Keith,

874
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:17.560
But he he's that guy that's Demi
incredible, but he loses. But that's

875
01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:21.079
I think why he's there. He's
really talented. He's he's got to go

876
01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:30.359
places. But we'll see tomorrow night. I think about that is they have

877
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:36.119
the they still keep doing the United
Empire. He keeps splashing the hands on

878
01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:45.439
and they're not talking about it.
It's all about the Callous Family. What's

879
01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:50.680
that Bobbs at one point was mocking
him and doing the symbol. Yeah,

880
01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:56.479
I mean, I think that they
need to figure out what they're going to

881
01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:00.239
do there with that sooner than later, because it's starting to get to the

882
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:08.479
point where I think they're getting the
Callous Family a little stretched out into the

883
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:13.239
thing because they're they're messing with the
BCC, they're messing with uh now,

884
01:16:13.279 --> 01:16:17.319
the Champ. They're messing with all
these different people, and it's going to

885
01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:21.920
start sending out the storylines and you
need to get that to They're not they're

886
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:26.800
not making a clear cut done with
the storyline for that and then and moving

887
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:30.680
on to something else, which I
think is going to latin lessen the impact

888
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:36.520
of the Callous Family. H m
hmmm. Like one thing I can say

889
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:41.479
is that don Kallis family. I
guess before will Osprey showed up, they

890
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:45.760
were just like m I A.
They were just not featured at all on

891
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:49.960
TV. So I'm happy that they're
back, but it is kind of weird

892
01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:57.159
now they're going into major feuds seemingly
if Swerve is going to feud with them

893
01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:01.640
as well. So I don't know, just yeah, maybe not yeah,

894
01:17:01.720 --> 01:17:04.720
but have you noticed that Swerve didn't
come out two weeks in a row and

895
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:10.199
just talk. Uh, not that
I'm taking a chot at anything else,

896
01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:15.880
but you know, they're actually putting
him out there like unlike some other companies

897
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:19.960
that like to parade their world champion
around, Swerve get into business and we'll

898
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:28.920
see where where it heads. I
really, I think it's just just a

899
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:31.800
blow in the water. I don't
think of have anything to do with the

900
01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:36.039
Calis family that much. They got
their eyes on other things. Mm hmm.

901
01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:45.359
My question is who who's going to
come out first on Dynamite? Is

902
01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:51.960
it going to be Swerve or John
Moxley Moxley, because if it's it's going

903
01:17:53.039 --> 01:18:00.279
to be Moxley exactly without a twenty
minute promo about how great is Yeah.

904
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:05.439
Well look, okay, I'm gonna
apologize to you right now because I'm gonna

905
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:11.079
droll on about a woman's match now
because I have a lot to say about

906
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:15.319
this one. Uh. We're of
course talking about Marina, I mean Marina

907
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:25.479
Mina Shirakawa with Maria Mayner corner against
Anna Jay. And this is going to

908
01:18:25.720 --> 01:18:30.119
go back to what we were talking
about earlier about thunder Rosa and Tony Storm.

909
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:36.479
And news broke yesterday that New Japan
Pro Wrestling is actually acquiring their sister

910
01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:43.279
company, Stardom, So it's not
really that big of a deal other than

911
01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:48.399
the fact that it's going to make
things like International Wrestling and things like that

912
01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:55.000
a lot a lot easier. And
they have run into conflicts in scheduling between

913
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:57.960
the two companies in the past.
Now they're not going to run into these

914
01:18:58.039 --> 01:19:05.279
conflicts, so the WGP Women's Championship
will not be interfering with the Stardom Championships

915
01:19:05.359 --> 01:19:10.239
and things like that. Okay,
So that being said, we have Mina

916
01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:15.000
shi Kawa against Anta Jay. Here
is my spicy prediction of the night.

917
01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:23.439
There's actually a couple here. I
would not be surprised if he Mellow showed

918
01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:29.119
up tomorrow night to help out a
beatdown of Anna Jay by both Mina Shirkawa

919
01:19:29.239 --> 01:19:33.680
and Mariah May. But more importantly, I think that what we're going to

920
01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:47.600
see is possibly a double or nothing
match between as was earlier stated, between

921
01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:53.880
Tony Storm and Chris Statlanders set up. Tony Storm is going to win that

922
01:19:54.079 --> 01:19:58.159
match. There is no way in
hell that Chris Statlander is going to win

923
01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:00.520
a match, especially considering she's not
really want a whole hell of a lot

924
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:06.800
in the last few weeks. Okay, Ultimately, what's what I feel is

925
01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:12.359
going to happen, and this is
the spicy prediction part. Mina Shirakawa will

926
01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:20.239
face Tony Storm at Forbidden Door,
and Mina Shirakawa will defeat Tony Storm at

927
01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:25.800
Forbidden Door, and for a very
brief period of time, you will have

928
01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:33.479
a stardom wrestler with the a W
Women's World Championship, And like I said,

929
01:20:34.720 --> 01:20:40.760
this will open up the door for
AW women to go to Japan and

930
01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:45.880
fight for it. I would say
Mina Shirkawa will hold that title for about

931
01:20:46.399 --> 01:20:50.840
three or four weeks before somebody like
thunder Rosa for example, goes over to

932
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:59.079
Japan or here in the United States
and and and wins it wins it back.

933
01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:04.079
But I do. I think it
would be a great gesture and actually

934
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:10.640
a really good move because Minna shi
Kawa is over with American audiences already.

935
01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:14.560
They love her. How could you
not? You know? I think it

936
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:19.239
would be a great move for a
American belt to go to Japan. I

937
01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:25.119
agree in just a little while,
because look at we had Eddie Kingston had

938
01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:31.920
had the Strong Championship, although the
Strong Championship isn't necessarily seen as as it's

939
01:21:31.960 --> 01:21:36.680
more of an Americanized Japanese belt,
but John Boxley has the iw GP.

940
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:42.760
Why not? That's all I'm saying
is why not me to Mina shi Kawa

941
01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:49.199
is she's a great character. She's
very polarizing. She's not like going to

942
01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:55.960
be ever be as good in the
ring as say it Tam Nakano you know,

943
01:21:56.239 --> 01:22:00.359
or sorry or you know, maybe
a couple others. But it's got

944
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:06.119
that big personality that transcends language barriers, and uh, I think she would

945
01:22:06.159 --> 01:22:11.680
be a perfect match, a forbidden
door for Tony Storm, which they've already

946
01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:15.880
started to set up. They already
did, but I'll go you one better.

947
01:22:15.960 --> 01:22:18.800
I'll go you one better. It
starts that build up starts tomorrow night.

948
01:22:19.800 --> 01:22:29.039
Because you have mirrorsir Kawa. With
my brain's not working with uh,

949
01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:35.479
I can't get yeah, miriamey.
I'll get there eventually. And Tony is

950
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:42.680
not gonna like that at all.
So I think that Tony's gonna come out

951
01:22:43.479 --> 01:22:46.720
and there's gonna start the commentation.
They're gonna start two things tomorrow night with

952
01:22:46.840 --> 01:22:50.840
that. They're gonna set up the
about that you mentioned that the thing,

953
01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:54.239
and I agree, I think they
should have that. Toime, it seems

954
01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:59.399
odd that they've never done that.
You to do, don't You don't think

955
01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:03.199
it's right? Yeah, because because
New Japan has always had their titles here

956
01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:09.000
but we've never had ours there.
That makes no sense to me. And

957
01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:12.239
and and it kind of goes back
to it kind of for me, it

958
01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:15.399
kind of goes back to part of
the reason why in the old days when

959
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:19.359
we wanted like WWE, this doesn't
exist, but WWE wanted to work with

960
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:25.159
other people, but they wouldn't because
it was always about WWE. And to

961
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:30.199
me, they're partnering with New Japan
and with this, you know that all

962
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:35.359
these other places CML and all those
but all we get is the talent.

963
01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:39.800
They don't get anything exchange for that, and it kind of seems odd to

964
01:23:39.880 --> 01:23:43.399
me that that's they I agree with
you one hundred percent on that. I

965
01:23:43.479 --> 01:23:46.960
think that's what they should do.
But I think tomorrow night we start Tony's

966
01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:55.119
meltdown because Mariah, she's gonna feel
that. The whole interaction between Mariah and

967
01:23:55.279 --> 01:23:59.279
Nira are are going to start the
meltdown for her, and I think that's

968
01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:03.479
what's going to end that character when
she finally gets beat at at Forbidden Door.

969
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:09.079
I really hope for it, I
really do, because I think interesting,

970
01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:15.279
I think I don't see I don't
see that character going away because it's

971
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:18.760
a popular character. She won't devolve
back into the regular Tony Storm. But

972
01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:25.479
I I had to say, I
agree with it. It would be great

973
01:24:25.479 --> 01:24:30.680
because the Dominoes are now falling into
place of a situation where they can trust

974
01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:35.319
each other enough to work together with
New Japan, and hopefully we do we

975
01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:42.399
do see that and see some more
wrestlers come over here. The women's division

976
01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:47.399
is great right now, but adding
in other players from different countries can help

977
01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:53.760
us a lot to really, you
know, the mainstream audience does not know

978
01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:57.640
New Japan wrestler. We're all,
not like Kelson, who knows everything to

979
01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:00.520
know about New Japan wrestling. So
I don't know a lot about the Japan

980
01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:03.920
wrestling at all. I do know
about stardom because I love stardom. Yeah,

981
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:06.640
it will start them. I mean, that's what we need. We

982
01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:11.800
need international flavor. We need no
more. And for Rush to say,

983
01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:14.760
hey, we had the best,
and they keep on saying the word we

984
01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:19.399
the best wrestle here, Well let's
prove it with women's division and that other

985
01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:25.760
way that we can compete with international
stars as well. Right, well,

986
01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:28.640
you know the only other option,
you know, I will throw it out

987
01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:32.560
is Stephanie Becker, you know from
CMML c MLL, who is the iw

988
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:39.319
GP champion right now. But I
don't want to see that belt for belt

989
01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:45.439
going with Tony Storm because I just
don't want to see like the w Championship

990
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:48.359
on Stephanie and I don't want to
see the iw GP Championship on Tony.

991
01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:54.880
I would much rather see somebody like
Mina Shiri Kawa take the belt to stardom.

992
01:25:55.279 --> 01:26:00.039
Who actually, you know, with
Rossi Galla starting Mirrorgold, the the

993
01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:03.840
roster is a little bit depleted,
not too bad, but it is somewhat

994
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:10.439
depleted, you know, noticeably depleted. Having the aw Women's World Championship and

995
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:15.439
stardom for if it's just a cup
of coffee would be a huge deal,

996
01:26:17.039 --> 01:26:20.279
and it would make it deal,
and it would make it a world title.

997
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:27.520
Absolutely. I thought that was so
funny when you had a company that

998
01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:32.800
worked in one place call their title
a world title because it's not a world

999
01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:36.800
title. I'm sorry. WWE title
is not a world title because it's only

1000
01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:42.199
defended in the WWE. You don't
have it go anywhere else. The only

1001
01:26:42.239 --> 01:26:45.720
one that I can think of that
as an actual world title is the new

1002
01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:51.399
Japan IWGP title because Moxley's had it, you know, it's been everywhere.

1003
01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:56.800
That title is definitely is definitely a
world title because it's actually been defended all

1004
01:26:56.880 --> 01:27:02.199
over the world. The international title
didn't that start as something else and then

1005
01:27:02.279 --> 01:27:06.920
because they defended it in the UK, it upgrade. It started as the

1006
01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:15.159
yeah something like that, yeah,
but yeah, yeah title maybe yeah yeah.

1007
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:19.000
But these titles are like the uh, the Miss Universe of wrestling.

1008
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:23.239
You know, let's face that.
The Miss Universe pageant is really cool.

1009
01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:26.399
I mean I haven't watched it in
about twenty five years. But it's really

1010
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:29.920
cool. But let's face that,
somebody from Earth always wins, grew to

1011
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:32.039
rest of the universe. Don't be
too surprised about that. Something about that

1012
01:27:32.159 --> 01:27:39.479
don't change soon. Told us they're
here, so you know, you never

1013
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:45.039
know, but immediately wrestling, then
you have a universal title. Somebody's gonna

1014
01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:48.920
come up with a universal title.
Well, we're from Venus and that is

1015
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:51.960
from Mars. No, wait a
minute, no, that is from Venus

1016
01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:57.439
and I we're from Mars. I
messed that up. Wow, yes they're

1017
01:27:57.479 --> 01:28:02.079
here. Learned to really think about
that right now? Man, uh huh

1018
01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:08.479
no, but I really do.
I mean I do think aj Mayshaw they

1019
01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:12.560
reunite tomorrow night. Okay. The
only thing I gotta say about that is

1020
01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:17.000
there was a vlog I think it
was like this week's vlog that they are

1021
01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:23.800
in Europe. They were in Italy
and Rome on a family trips. So

1022
01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:27.520
I don't know that there. Actually
that might have been last weekend. They

1023
01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:30.880
might be back now, but that
might be they might be out of the

1024
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:33.800
country right now. Yeah, Well, things usually a week ahead, so

1025
01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:40.199
well it used to be a week
behind, so uh yeah, we'll see

1026
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:45.199
with her. What makes you think
though that is coming back. She's been

1027
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:49.840
uh you know, she's has been
showing pictures of her working out and she

1028
01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:54.319
I believe she even made a post
about three weeks ago where she says,

1029
01:28:54.399 --> 01:29:00.439
I'm almost there. Yeah. Energy
has kind of just been in the spot

1030
01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:08.920
where she's there but not doing anything, so that would be at her story.

1031
01:29:10.880 --> 01:29:15.760
Yeah. I mean, you know, I the women's division for me

1032
01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:21.279
right now is more interesting than men's
division because the men's division has there's not

1033
01:29:21.399 --> 01:29:26.359
many options. But with the women's
division, when you think about all the

1034
01:29:26.399 --> 01:29:30.119
people I made a post about it
last week. When you look at the

1035
01:29:30.399 --> 01:29:35.399
uh the TBS Championship picture, you
look at the World Championship picture, and

1036
01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:45.000
even the Serita deeb and uh oh
god Sa Deep and Yukaza Kazaki, which

1037
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:49.000
gosh, I hope she's okay.
Uh thing. There were eleven different women

1038
01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:56.920
involved in storylines for two belts and
the thing. That's a lot, and

1039
01:29:57.039 --> 01:30:01.159
they're doing it so well, you
know so, and I think that's why

1040
01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:05.840
you were so down on Dynasty because
you know, for me, there was

1041
01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:13.399
like thick, good to great matches
and neither of them, neither of the

1042
01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:16.600
women's matches were up there. Well
now it wasn't even that. Look,

1043
01:30:16.640 --> 01:30:20.640
here's here's why I was a little
bit. Not that I was negative on

1044
01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:25.079
Dynasty. I did enjoy Dynasty.
I just don't think that it lived up

1045
01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:30.319
to my expectations. And I think
Shad's the Vibe said it the best,

1046
01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:35.960
right. He said that there were
a lot of great moments at Dynasty,

1047
01:30:36.199 --> 01:30:42.039
and there were there were a lot
of great moments at Dynasty. Willow winning

1048
01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:45.039
the championship was a great moment.
Swerve winning the championship was a great moment,

1049
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:53.199
you know, the unification of the
of the Trio Spelts was a great

1050
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:57.079
moment. You know, things that
happened. You know. You can even

1051
01:30:57.279 --> 01:31:01.439
argue that Chris Jericho's little whatever he's
trying to do is a moment as well.

1052
01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:05.640
The fact of the matter, though, is that you're talking about moments,

1053
01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:11.199
not matches. The only matches that
I've really heard people, you know,

1054
01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:14.960
Jack Perry showed up as a great
moment, but those moments took away

1055
01:31:15.079 --> 01:31:19.439
from most of the matches. The
only match really that didn't have a moment

1056
01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:25.399
take away from it was the Osprey
and Danielson match, because that match in

1057
01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:34.760
and of itself was a thirty minute
moment match to me, yeah, absolutely,

1058
01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:42.439
And I get what you're saying,
but the only see I just don't

1059
01:31:42.439 --> 01:31:44.840
see it that. I don't see
that. I see what I get the

1060
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:48.239
whole thing, I just don't look
at it that way because the only matches

1061
01:31:48.319 --> 01:31:51.880
that really bothered me in that whole
thing was the Kyler Rally, and in

1062
01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:57.399
that match, that match could have
just been not even there, and the

1063
01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:03.920
the women's and in the main event
ending as if the injuries were like,

1064
01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:10.079
there's just they You could have did
that whole pay per view without those three

1065
01:32:10.159 --> 01:32:14.479
matches and it would have been as
good as it was, right, I

1066
01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:17.239
mean, three matches were nothing.
Let me explain it to you the best

1067
01:32:17.279 --> 01:32:20.960
way I can six months from now
looking back, and you could just probably

1068
01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:25.439
say, hey, do you remember
that Brian Danielson and will Osprey match?

1069
01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:28.359
Oh? Hell yeah? Who could
forget that? Hey do you remember to

1070
01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:31.920
Kyle O'Reilly and Roderk strong match,
or to Willow Knightingale and Julia hart Maatcher,

1071
01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:36.079
to Chris Jericho and Hook match,
or the you know, Prett Berretta

1072
01:32:36.119 --> 01:32:40.079
and Matt Sidel match, et cetera, et cetera, and so on and

1073
01:32:40.199 --> 01:32:44.399
so on there are very fow the
twelve matches that took place, there's maybe

1074
01:32:44.680 --> 01:32:47.920
three, including maybe the Ocada Well
not maybe, but I think that I

1075
01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:53.279
would remember the Okada back match because
I really hope that this is the first

1076
01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:57.880
match in a series of matches between
these guys. Uh, you're not gonna

1077
01:32:57.920 --> 01:33:01.000
remember for the matches you remember you, I mean, are you gonna remember

1078
01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:05.119
to match the ladder match between F
t R and I think so? I

1079
01:33:05.159 --> 01:33:12.640
think remember the moment without carry.
Oh, I think I'm gonna remember Cash

1080
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:17.359
doing that dive through the table.
Yeah, the pile driver on the ladder

1081
01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:21.319
ladder. Yeah, that was a
really good match, And I think those

1082
01:33:21.399 --> 01:33:27.680
three will be remembered. But yeah, I mean the rest is any any

1083
01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:30.399
pay per view, you could probably
make a part and say that right,

1084
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:34.039
and and and it's not so.
I mean, I can't even remember any

1085
01:33:34.039 --> 01:33:40.439
of the damn matches from the last
paper. Yeah that was everyone loved that.

1086
01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:45.079
It was revolution, But yeah,
I remember is the one that it

1087
01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:48.079
was the title changed when Copeland won
the title. That's the only one I

1088
01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:50.880
can remember. And I missed the
final part of it because it wasn't even

1089
01:33:55.279 --> 01:34:01.039
that was dynamite. Yeah, oh
yeah, that was no mine. But

1090
01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:06.319
you see, it comes down to
for me, when it comes to a

1091
01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:13.359
pay per view, if I get
seven matches and four of them are be

1092
01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:17.399
plus be or better, then it's
a successful pay per view. And there

1093
01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:23.760
were enough moments and good matches.
You have at least three very good matches.

1094
01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:28.239
To me, three very good matches, four good. I mean even

1095
01:34:28.359 --> 01:34:30.479
like for me, the trios match
at the main event of the of the

1096
01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:35.680
Zero Hour was a good match.
I enjoyed the match, and I will

1097
01:34:35.760 --> 01:34:42.039
remember that one because I think that
it's gonna end up being that's gonna end.

1098
01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:44.680
I wanted that the ends so different, but we won't go there.

1099
01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:49.960
I actually wanted to see Billy turn
on the acclaim and join his sons that

1100
01:34:50.159 --> 01:34:53.560
I thought that would have been an
amazing part way to do that. But

1101
01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:58.840
I digress. As Task likes to
say, I think it'll be that.

1102
01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:04.399
I think it's just that that some
of the pay per views gets so hyped

1103
01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:14.760
that your your people's build up to
them sometimes don't exactly meet the expectation.

1104
01:35:15.399 --> 01:35:21.079
I think the final with the with
the the World Championship match and the women's

1105
01:35:21.199 --> 01:35:28.399
match didn't meet the expectation they were
built to and that made it look seem

1106
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:30.439
like it wasn't as good as it
could have been. By anyway, go

1107
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:33.720
hot buys your Pedaico shirt. Join
us tomorrow night for all the talk.

1108
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:39.239
We're doing the open mic. We'd
love to have you anyway. That's going

1109
01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:45.279
to wrap up tonight's show. Forty
a W Podcast team. This is Kelson

1110
01:35:45.039 --> 01:35:49.640
Alex Hey, good night, everybody, night, y'all, good night,