WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:14.599 He'll be gon be beer. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do 2 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:18.000 this for October twentieth, twenty twenty three. For the next hour or so, 3 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:21.000 let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings 4 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:25.079 Live with Me Jeff Grubb. Today, more rumors about Nintendo's new hardware, 5 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:29.480 hardware and it's Super Spider Mario wonder Day. But first please join me and 6 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:33.200 welcoming today's co host the Game Mess Mornings. It's Tomor Who's saying, everybody, 7 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:36.920 Tam, how are you doing? I am doing good? How are 8 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:40.960 you? Jeff Grub? I'm good. I'm I was pretty jealous. You 9 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:45.000 guys looked great at at Mike's wedding. You know, no spoilers for Mike's 10 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.840 wedding, but did you have a good time? No spoilers about what happened 11 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:53.320 at the end of course wedding, but we had a wonderful time. I 12 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:57.799 have loads of videos of Jeff Bakala Dante. Oh that's what I like to 13 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:02.679 hear. A Bufo's got he's got moves. I will say that for people 14 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:04.519 like I don't think I'm gonna post them anywhere. They mostly for myself, 15 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:10.079 of course. Yeah, the man's the man's got moves. I respect it 16 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:14.400 is it is it kind of like a walk dance little thing, kind of 17 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:17.840 like a little shuffle. Is that he did it all. He did the 18 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:21.879 walk down shuffle he had, He busted out some moves. He did the 19 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:25.560 thing where he like he was dancing, and then he could sense a camera 20 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:27.920 was on him, so he whipped his head around and danced for the camera. 21 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:32.920 And I was like, damn, that's those we call those dad energy. 22 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:36.840 That dad energy moves. Dad dance moves. Cool dad dancing. Yeah, 23 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.760 his dad dancing was like off the chain. I was very very impressed. 24 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:44.519 I'm I'm very excited about that. Uh but yeah, glad, glad 25 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:49.879 to have you back on the show. Glad you're back. You traveling this 26 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.799 time of year for something that's not gaming related's got to be always be like 27 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.120 okay, yeah, I want to go see my friends. That's great. 28 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.000 It was nice to like get away from games and then come back and be 29 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.640 like, all right, I got all these games to keep playing. I 30 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:05.959 would like to say yes, but it was stressful. Yeah, that's how 31 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:07.479 I feel. That's why I asked you. Well, Yeah, I like 32 00:02:07.520 --> 00:02:15.159 having to actually took a game with me to play for like pre pre release, 33 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:20.319 for like coverage stuff, and ended up having no time to do so 34 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:23.039 it made me, It made it evil worse. Yeah, So when I 35 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:23.800 go back, I was like, oh, shuit, I got to play 36 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:29.080 these mini games in this time. And it's a hard life everyone. It's 37 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:31.120 a tough life having to play these games before they come out all the time. 38 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:35.319 Yeah, so hard, man, it's so hard. All right, 39 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.360 let's explain what we do here most weekdays. I, Jeff grebelhelp piece your 40 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:42.120 gaming life back together. That includes breaking news and maybe even some of our 41 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:45.400 own original reporting. For all these topics, I'll get the input of a 42 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:47.800 bona fide expert who will make me look smart. If you are watching live 43 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:52.599 on twitch welcome, you could always listen to the show later on podcast Seat's 44 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:55.199 by searching for Game Best Mornings, or find the RSS on giant bomb dot 45 00:02:55.199 --> 00:03:00.000 com. You can also catch the show later with chapters in timestamps on YouTube 46 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:04.360 Hello YouTube two. All right, we have a lot to get into, 47 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:08.280 so let's start the morning mess with leaker claims. Switch To will feature ray 48 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:15.280 tracing reconstruction d LSS three point five plus two models at launch. This is 49 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:19.520 from my Nintendo news known leaker Nate the hate is backed with some more interesting 50 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:24.280 Nintendo switch to rumors. Hey, I know Nate, and you're still right 51 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:29.759 to last. I need to ask him what that? Why that name? 52 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.199 I never again. He's not a hateful person. He's an angry guy. 53 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:37.199 Definitely Nate angry, but it is hard to discern how reliable his sources are. 54 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:38.680 Speaking In a new YouTube video, he goes to say that the switch 55 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:44.120 to will feature the following some form of ray reconstruction, and that it will 56 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:49.599 have support for the image upscaling solution d LSS three three yeah. He also 57 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:52.360 mentioned that the switch tow will come in two different models. This is something 58 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.199 we've heard repeatedly now, possibly one which sports fiscal and digital games, and 59 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:59.879 a second which would be a cheaper digital only model. Both Microsoft and so 60 00:03:59.919 --> 00:04:03.680 on have done similar things recently. Nintendo's he had to comment on any details 61 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:11.280 about a switch successor. Nate usually doesn't say stuff unless he's like really sure, 62 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:15.800 So I wonder unless he's really really ready to hate, Unless he's ready 63 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:21.000 to hate exactly, filled with just complete and utter hatred in his heart. 64 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:25.759 Let's operate on this under the assumption that something like these things are true. 65 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:30.920 I don't know why I switch to needs ray tracing ray tracing at all. 66 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.160 I suppose if you're gonna have ra tracing, having raid tracing reconstruction in there 67 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:39.040 is very important. But I guess you're working within video, you're working closely 68 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.079 within video. I guess in video would be like, hey, you should 69 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:44.399 have these features. These are our cutting edge things, and we're gonna do 70 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:47.079 everything it takes to get it in there. But I just don't see how 71 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:49.160 it makes a lot of sense for a handheld device. I don't know, 72 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:53.560 what do you think? Yeah, it feels pointless. I mean it feels 73 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:56.560 like one of those things where like in video, as you said, just 74 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:58.399 like I was like, hey, by the way, guys, I don't 75 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:00.879 want using this technology and also do this. What do you think? And 76 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:04.240 they're probably like, yeah, whatever, man, do what you want. 77 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:09.000 Yeah, that kind of situation. It's right, it's not. It's not 78 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:14.759 like something Nintendo has designated essential to the to the hardware to be important and 79 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:18.319 competitive in the next, you know, wave of hardware. At the most, 80 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:25.160 I think it's a probably something that helps in terms of marketing and perception, 81 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:29.120 like having a brand new device the story of the switches. It's fantastic 82 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:34.759 as a console underpowered, though having another one of those that's fantastic underpowered would 83 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:40.560 create this kind of image where it's still very it's now double far behind the 84 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:45.480 other hardware. But if they have something like, hey, we've got Raymond 85 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:49.560 Tracing reconstructed, they can at least like feel like that they're you know, 86 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:54.519 closer to to the other comparers out there, even if they don't have any 87 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:59.079 plans to use this. DLSS three point five maybe feels more a little more 88 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:04.839 applicable to games. Yeah, but I feel like raytracing is, unless I'm 89 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:10.360 mistaking it, ratetracing is one piece of a puzzle that you like, an 90 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:15.360 overall puzzle that you need to have a more robust hardware system to make the 91 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:18.560 most of. Just having ray tracing. It isn't enough. Like if the 92 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:21.600 rest of your game looks like ass and you've got raytracing, like, it's 93 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:25.920 not gonna help you. It's gonna make everything worse. So I feel like 94 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:30.000 it's very very like just the back of the box stuff. Yeah, the 95 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:34.759 back of the box stuff is probably correct. I think that's it's the kind 96 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:39.079 of thing where you maybe it shows up a big time in the press release 97 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:41.480 and think it's announced it is on the back of the box, Like you 98 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:46.360 said, I might have a little badge you know in video DLSS and RTX 99 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:48.040 might be on the box, right, uh, and then we've got to 100 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:51.399 play these games. It almost never gets used. That would be my assumption. 101 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:56.839 Yeah, it feels like one of those things that like Ubisoft users twice 102 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:02.240 and then everyone forgets exists. You know, a part of the quake RTX 103 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:06.839 from Nvidia showing up on the switch and actually running pretty decently. I don't 104 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:11.839 think that's out of the rum of possibility. Portal has a pretty good ray 105 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:15.360 tracing mod that Nvidia did, and it's like, yeah, okay, that 106 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:20.040 stuff could probably get up and running at switch maybe maybe thirty to sixty frames 107 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:25.920 per second. I honestly don't know. DLSS three point five specifically. It's 108 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:30.120 weird because like three was the one that was really big about frame generation, 109 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:34.639 and three point five is the one that was really big about this ray reconstruction, 110 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:40.040 which is the thing that does make ray tracing in Cyberpunk, Fan of 111 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:43.879 Liberty and the groups and update look as amazing as it does. And it 112 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:46.519 really is a full game changer. Finally for ray tracing, it took a 113 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:50.199 long time, but now with ray reconstruction, which is basically it's a D 114 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:55.399 noiser. It's several tools, but at best it's a D noiser. So 115 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:59.560 what happens with these rays is they send rays out from the camera like that 116 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:01.519 you're looking through in the game, and they shoot these rays out. But 117 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:03.839 as they spread out, you know, they come from this one point and 118 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.240 they spread out as rays. These rays can't hit every single point in the 119 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:11.879 world, so it basically creates a noisy image of what light would look like. 120 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:15.199 So they have had to use these tools to denoise it, to make 121 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:18.160 it kind of smooth it over, and in that process, not just in 122 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.120 that process, that didn't always work well. And then in the process they 123 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:26.120 lost some of those details and it didn't really look how light should always look. 124 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:31.480 This has really addressed it. But that's I mean we're talking about. 125 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:35.080 I mean, the game that had uses is a fucking cyberpunk. Yeah, 126 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:37.759 and yeah, I suppose, I guess. I guess maybe the switch too 127 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:41.039 could be powerful enough to run cyberpunk, But cyberpunk with ray tracing that feels 128 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:45.799 really far away. I still I genuinely feel like it. It's the frame 129 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.360 generation stuff that is going to help switch games. That's the other thing though, 130 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:54.320 because like frame generation is very useful at from like going from like sixty 131 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:56.960 frames per second up to like one hundred and twenty frames per second. Yeah, 132 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.080 it going from like thirty to sixty. It's not as good at that. 133 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.840 But this is this is before yeah, rather a feature that isn't that 134 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.679 good. Nintendo is all about that, right, and I think I think 135 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:11.879 again, I think in video would just be like just put it in there. 136 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:15.879 Some things might take advantage of it. We just have to take this 137 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.960 box and it works, is all right. I was like, oh yeah, 138 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.320 all right, cool, okay. At the other side of this, 139 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:26.879 though, the two versions of a switch we've heard this Xbox Era Nick had 140 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:31.360 this rumor previously where he was like, yeah, there's going to be a 141 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.480 a version of the switch to that has a card slot and a version that 142 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.000 is digital only. Everyone else is doing this. I don't think it's out 143 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.799 of the rama possiblity that Nintendo does it as well. I think one of 144 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:43.080 the main reasons you do this if you're one of these companies, though, 145 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:48.159 is you set the digital version at a price that you probably could have got 146 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:50.480 away with selling the you know, if you had one console you put at 147 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:54.320 that price, and then the digital and physical version can be a little bit 148 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:58.600 more expensive. I imagine Nintendo might pull a move like that where it's four 149 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:03.519 hundred hours for the digital version in four fifty for the fiscal version or something 150 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.519 like that. Does that sound right to you? Yeah, that sounds about 151 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.320 right. Yeah, I mean it is definitely gonna happen. Like I just 152 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:16.639 I just feel like it would be weird if they didn't have that kind of 153 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:20.120 option. Now, my question is if there's no cartridges, does that mean 154 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:24.320 we have to lick the entire console? You have to lick the whole console? 155 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.559 Yeah, I mean, listen, I'll do that. Who's a who's 156 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:31.960 that picture? Jessica chobot? I'll do a chrobot. Absolutely, I'll do 157 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.480 and then be in the next mass effect. Exactly, Yes, exactly, 158 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:41.240 It's exactly what I'll do, and I'm ready, Yeah for sure. What 159 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:45.080 do you think we hear about these things? This this new Nintendo system, 160 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.320 there was like a little bit of a hubbabloo of this past. I mean 161 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:50.840 yeah, do you mean officially or do you mean when do we hear everything 162 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.080 about the system that Nintendo doesn't tell us. Yeah, well we're both why 163 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:56.840 not? Yeah? Yeah, what do you think do you think we're gonna 164 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:01.120 leaked any second now? And then officially? I reckon like maybe early next 165 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:05.360 year. Do you think a teaser at the Game Awards is a possibility? 166 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.679 Yeah, it's It's like I can'd like I go back and forth on that 167 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.480 one. I feel like Jeff's got the riz, like he could make it 168 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:16.440 happen, but I feel like Nintendo is going to be like, no, 169 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.720 we're gonna do this on our own terms. I feel like hardware is the 170 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.039 one thing that they no longer allow anyone else to touch. They have their 171 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:26.240 own Intendo director to do it unofficially. By the end of the year, 172 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:28.960 we could have a little more concrete information about it, I mean, and 173 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:33.080 it seems like it seems to every day we move a little bit closer to 174 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:37.399 that. Yes, yeah, we've got we've got haters named Nate out there, 175 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.200 yep. Absolutely, But like in terms of like that, but you 176 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.879 know, there's always that one big dump where it's like, oh, this 177 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:48.200 is it. This is the one that everyone has, the NX dump, 178 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:48.919 as I like to call it, for the last one. I was like, 179 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:52.440 oh, this is all just all the information about this console. Sweet, 180 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.279 And I'm literally in the so Nate the Hate is often on the spawned 181 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:01.279 cast podcast and they have me in there. So I'm in their their their 182 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:05.240 discord, and here here he is. Uh, he'll explain how he feels 183 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.200 about us making fun of the hate name. No, there you go, 184 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:15.799 that's literally him, right. You can't do that? Can people see that? 185 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:18.120 Uh? See? See? Yeah, so if you have a discord 186 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:22.879 nitrate, you can use the soundboard from other people's discords. Yes, can 187 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.759 the people on stream see that? See like the name pop up or see 188 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.559 the little I think so, yeah, I think I think they Well they 189 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.000 might not have seen it because it would have gone over me. If you 190 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:37.799 do it, they'll see it. Oh oh man, I should have told 191 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:43.279 Tam that. Oh there we go. I mean they won't. I can't 192 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:48.080 see the little icon that lets me do it. Okay, okay, sure 193 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:54.120 you are so lucky. All right, let's move on here. E's Iron 194 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.759 Man game will run on Unreal Engine five and it's not releasing soon. This 195 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:03.000 is from Eddie McCoo at game Spot. Motive Studios has provided an update on 196 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:05.840 its upcoming iron Man game, and no one should expect the game to come 197 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:09.039 out anytime soon. Studio GM Patrick Klaus said in a blog post that iron 198 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:13.360 that the iron Man game is still early in pre production and that the team 199 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:16.799 has chosen the Unreal Engine five to power it. Klaus said, Motive is 200 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.279 taking it was taking our time to make sure we set the best possible foundation 201 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:24.120 for development. The developer added that through its early days, the team has 202 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.000 already found so many opportunities to explore, expore story design and gameplay with iron 203 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.559 Man. Klaus said, it's exciting to see the fantasy start coming to life. 204 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.320 A Motive is working with working on the untitled iron Man game alongside a 205 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.799 community council of iron Man and Marvel fans. We're providing feedback on pretty much 206 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.480 everything you said on well you said untiled iron Man game. I just minded 207 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:48.480 an iron Man knife in his mouth, just annoying people like untiled Goose game. 208 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:58.639 Damcket, it's really funny. That's funny. O god, damn it. 209 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:03.799 Uh Hey, Unreal Engined five is something that they probably should be using 210 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.679 these days. If you aren't like super sure about doing some other engine, 211 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:11.480 that's great. A couple of years ago. EA makes an Iron Man game 212 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:16.039 and they one million percent are using Frostbite. So the fact that the studios 213 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.159 like Motive can decide to use unrell Engine five, that is a little bit 214 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:20.919 of a change, and it's a change for the better. I'm at a 215 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:26.399 point with engines tam where and then I'm like, I'm definitely no expert developers 216 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:28.360 will always hear this and be like, you guys don't know what you're talking 217 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:30.600 about, and you're right, but I'll just say it, like, in 218 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:35.200 general, from like an outsider's view, there was a time when when human 219 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.480 beings were creating music and you had to create your own instrument every single time. 220 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:41.559 And now there's companies that just make guitars and you go and you get 221 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:46.840 that guitar and then you make your music. That's what's happening with video game 222 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:50.440 engines. And so a big studio and a big publisher like EA using Unreal 223 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:54.519 Engine five for iron Man five or the Iron Man game that sounds perfectly rational 224 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:58.039 to me. How do you feel about all this? Yeah, I mean 225 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.440 it makes sense. Also, like I kind of think cover engine more suited 226 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.200 to make Shiny Almah than than the one that might have been better was Frostbite. 227 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.039 That's a little bit because like Anthem, I cannot think of a more 228 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:16.720 suitable and stable engine. Yeah. The thing is like the Frostbite would have 229 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:20.840 been good at the armor and pretty much nothing else because I know every time 230 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:26.080 that game tried to animate anything, that engine try to animate anything, you 231 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:28.759 would just see a lot of trouble in games like Mass Effect Andromeda where it's 232 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:31.120 like, man, they're really stiff. They don't move as much as they 233 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:35.639 did in the previous mass Efact games. Apparently that was all because animations were 234 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:39.240 tough to pull off in that system. Uh. Yeah, so I'm looking 235 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:43.000 forward to this. When I originally heard about this Iron Man game we did 236 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:46.200 here was very far off. I think the Black Panther game is coming first, 237 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:50.480 and yet that is also still pretty far off. I think that's right. 238 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:54.080 I'm like, my memory is kind of fuzzy on that, but yeah. 239 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.279 How are you feeling, especially coming off of Spider Man too, how 240 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:00.120 are you feeling about the future of Marvel Video games. I think I'm now 241 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:06.039 more excited about the future of Marvel video games than i am the future of 242 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:08.559 the cinematic universe, which is off might do master at the moment, I 243 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:14.240 like completely, I'm like I am I am the target demographic for this stuff, 244 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:18.080 and I could not be more bored with everything that they're doing right now. 245 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:23.279 My my issue is is now we have all these branches of Iron Man 246 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:27.080 and Marvel Games and that kind of stuff, where it's like everyone's making a 247 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:32.639 Marvel again. It's like the thing about the MCU that made it so exciting 248 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:37.600 was the unification of it all, and it seems like the video game industry 249 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.399 is going the other direction where it's like we've got Insomniac killing it with Spider 250 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.480 Man. They're probably going to get it with Wolverine Connected. You think I 251 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:51.840 would think, right, yeah, And there's like, actually, I'm not 252 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:53.159 going to say anything about Spider Man Tuo. It's not a spoiler, but 253 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:59.960 I know how pissy people get about even mentioning a single thing. But yeah, 254 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.319 there's there's more to that as well. And over here we have you 255 00:17:03.359 --> 00:17:08.559 know, EA's doing Black Panther and and Iron Man. I'm just like, 256 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:12.079 I wish it was unified again. I wish it was I wish there was 257 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:17.400 like some cohesiveness between it. But at the same time, it doesnt mean 258 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:21.880 that you know, more ideas, perspectives and that kind of stuff, which 259 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:25.240 is exciting to me. I'm really looking forward to that Black Panther game. 260 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:27.119 That's the one that Amy Hennig is working on. Right, that's right, 261 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:30.359 that's the yes. Uh well okay, no way, hang on, I'm 262 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.880 sorry. Let's see here. Amy Hennig is working on Stall Wars. No, 263 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:40.279 Amy Hnig is working on a Black Panther and America game. Yes, 264 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:45.480 yes, kept and then separately EA a new studio out in Washington State that 265 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:51.839 was formerly the Mordor team, but some people from the Mortar team over at 266 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:56.480 WB They started a new studio in Washington and they're working on a specifically just 267 00:17:56.519 --> 00:17:59.759 Black Panther game that's going to be a completely different time part of the timeline. 268 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:02.240 The Black Panther Captain America game, I think is World War two I 269 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:06.079 hate already. Yeah, it's fixed to your point that like, okay, 270 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:10.039 they're they're that cohesiveness, and I think like, so the MCU got to 271 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:11.599 the point where a lot of people are like, I just want to standalone 272 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:15.319 movie, and my position is like I get that, but whenever a movie 273 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:19.039 like doesn't connect to this overall narrative, I feel like all this time I've 274 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:23.119 spent investing in this overall story, uh is wasted a little bit, and 275 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:26.039 maybe it's a terrible way. It is maybe a terrible way to look at 276 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:30.680 stuff. But also I get more value out of having these stories be connected. 277 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:33.160 And at the same time, I agree with the other thing you said, 278 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:34.759 where it's like, well, then I might also get more ideas, 279 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:37.920 and you're there may be a little bit more free to try different things. 280 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:41.000 So I'm like the one on the same exact pages as you on this stuff. 281 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.519 The thing is, I like the the different ideas perspective. I'm all 282 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:52.240 for people making different games. I hate the the kind of free for all 283 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:56.119 nature of licensing it where it's like you if I said, right now, 284 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.799 I want to play the Walhammer game, you'd be like, which one? 285 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.599 There's like ten of them, Like they're all right now actively being out there 286 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:07.559 and everyone's playing them, and it's just it feels the same way with Marble 287 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.200 Stuft, where it's like I'm gonna play the Black Panther game. Which one? 288 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:12.000 There's a bunch of them, And I feel like we're getting to the 289 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:15.680 point now where it's like this too many Bronze pass. I'm excited for the 290 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:22.559 one that is Black Panther and Captain America World War two. Yeah, it 291 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.759 sounds very exciting. I don't know anything about the other Black Panther game. 292 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:32.200 It seems like the studio, if I remember correctly, is very excited about 293 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:37.480 it, but we don't know anything about it. Yeah, yep, yeah 294 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:42.160 sure. And I think the the approach here, the one way, the 295 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:45.079 one reason I do worry about it is because it does seem like for the 296 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.680 Marvel games, it's just big game, big game, big game, big 297 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.640 game, like just man like the biggest kinds of game across the board. 298 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.319 And I get why. I think publishers who are licensing these Marble ips, 299 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.599 which is probably very expensive, feel that the games have to be that way. 300 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:02.920 I think over on the Star Wars side of things, and this Sawby 301 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.640 and Disney, which is the connection here, they do seem like they're more 302 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:10.799 willing to partner with smaller studios, Like there's the smaller studio that's working on 303 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:15.079 the Star Wars tactical game with Respawn, and and it's like, okay, 304 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:17.880 they're all collaborating stuff, but it might be a little bit care about Star 305 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:22.720 Wars. Well, yeah, I want everyone I don't care about Star Star 306 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:27.240 Wars can go away, thank you, and or is pretty good that Hey, 307 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:30.559 Tam, I watched every episode of Ahsoka and I might be right there 308 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:37.039 with you. I hate that was all of that ship is. It wasn't 309 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:40.519 my breaking point. I watched Obi wan Kenobi and I was like, yes, 310 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:45.119 it is straight ass, and people were like this is great, and 311 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:51.799 I was like, oh the people. I'm still the way Star Wars does 312 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:59.599 games, the way that they're approaching from being this fascinating, amazing space West 313 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:06.920 and two being just the biggest purveyor of mediocrity ever exists, like just the 314 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:10.200 most bollocks possible. Like even when it was the Prequels and I don't think 315 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:15.279 those movies are any good. They had ideas and these fucking shows have no 316 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:19.720 happy things. They had things to say about sand and it was funny. 317 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:25.359 I am Darth Vader. I am wearing a scale, wearing a suit because 318 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:29.759 I got burnt to fuck Obi wan Kenobi. My enemy is standing beyond this 319 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:33.119 little wall of fire. If I walk through it, I can kill that, 320 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:37.720 but Joe I can't do it. I'm gonna stand behind here because I'm 321 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:42.960 Darth Vader. Oh, all right, fucking hell, go throw that franchise 322 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:48.519 in a bin. That Having said that the Jedi games are pretty quel, 323 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:56.960 all right, expect five, speculation is abound after tweet that might be totally 324 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:02.599 unrelated. This is from Grace nfl at game Spot. This great headline, 325 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.119 a single fairly innocent tweet from a developer working on the Next Mass Effect, 326 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:11.279 has prompted further speculation about the still mysterious project. Chris Evans, character technology 327 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:18.559 director, I knew you were the best. Chris, Yeah, absolutely, 328 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:25.799 everyone a moment of this stuff. He's a character technology director at Epic Games, 329 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:30.680 and he posted on Twitter asking anyone creating games with meta humans in UI 330 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:33.400 five, what are some challenges you would like to like us to tackle in 331 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.279 future releases. Michael Gamble, project project director on the Next Mass Effect, 332 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:41.319 replied with a gift of a Solarian for the mass Factory DLC citadel. That's 333 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:45.480 the whole thing, And people are taking this to me and maybe I mean, 334 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:49.160 well, listen, mass Fect five is using unreal engine like it is. 335 00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:52.000 It is doing that. We know that that's an I am always replying 336 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:57.880 to people with a gift of Mass Effect characters doing ship and I'm making a 337 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:02.480 mass effect now, let's go. Yeah. I mean this guy is the 338 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:07.079 project director on that game. But the medic Humans thing was like, it's 339 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:10.880 like you press a button and it like the unreal engion will make a bunch 340 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:12.160 of human characters for you, and then you can go in there and tweak 341 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:15.480 them pretty easily. And it was like, oh wow, this is really 342 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:18.799 a powerful tool. So the implication here might be, hey, could what 343 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.920 the challenge is we're trying to create aliens and that it maybe doesn't work as 344 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:25.039 well for that. I don't know. I haven't used the meta humans thing, 345 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:26.519 but the humans is right in the fucking name, so I would imagine 346 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:33.279 it might have a difficult time with aliens. Hey, I get there's a 347 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:38.720 thing. I understand what's happening here. What is the speculation? The speculation 348 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:45.680 is that the mass effect five might get you might use some tools here to 349 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:48.839 fucking make more stuff mass There's barely anything like, Yes, like the speculation 350 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.200 as far as I can tell, it's mass effect five might have aliens in 351 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:56.599 it, Yes, exactly, Like this is like basically what I'm getting it 352 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:00.319 here, Yes, is that people are so thirsty for mass effect that they're 353 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:03.440 latching onto this. And then I'm sure there's like people in Fanta met just 354 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:06.480 spending off and having all kinds of like theories about what's happening with this, 355 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:10.039 because that's what Mass Effect fans do. Uh. But I just hey, 356 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:12.480 man, let's get dragon Age out first, and then that's that's because like 357 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.960 a lot of that team, that's what was working on Mass Effect, what 358 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.440 is working on on dragon Age right now instead like they got pulled off to 359 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.640 go help on dragon Age. Uh, and in a in a kind of 360 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:23.559 normal way, but also in a way where it's like, hey, that's 361 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:26.519 a big game. It to cost a lot of money and Buyowaar hasn't made 362 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:29.519 us a lot of money, and we got to get this thank fucking out, 363 00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:32.279 so stop, we're gonna Messfect coming to work over here like that is 364 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:36.319 real. Uh, but let's just let dragon Age come out first and then 365 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:40.319 start like really getting excited from respect. Maybe at that point I want someone 366 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:44.359 to go in there and use the may Humans like tool to make some freaks 367 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:45.759 and then put out a video saying like this is what the freaks in Mass 368 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.880 Effects five could look like, and then we're no, we're talking, but 369 00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:53.599 this is just like someone going, oh shit, that making mass effect. 370 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:59.079 It's gonna have weird looking stuff in it. No shit, that's it. 371 00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:02.119 Yeah, I mean it really is. It's just as simple as the game 372 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:03.920 might use meta humans and it's like, okay, yeah, I might use 373 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.000 a tool that's in the tool set that it's using. That's yeah, ok. 374 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:11.119 Let's someone's gonna tweet from the Dragon Age team. You guys know how 375 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:15.920 to make a bold charts because we got this one bold character who's been a 376 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.039 real pest and we need to make him. We need unrel Engion six for 377 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:25.400 this bald Solace needs to be bald. All right, we're gonna take a 378 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:26.440 quick break. When we get back. We'll have a lot more dregs to 379 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:37.599 get into after this. We're back, and it's time to talk a little 380 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:41.240 bit about Spider Man before we do that, because I don't think I have 381 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:44.799 any Super Mario Brothers Wonder story. So have you been playing that at all? 382 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.000 Yes, that was one of the games that I was desperate to play 383 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:52.720 while I was out on travels. And that game is just a little delay, 384 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:59.119 isn't it. Okay, So I did you play that first musical stage? 385 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:00.799 Musical stage, it's the first one. Oh my good. So I 386 00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:03.680 said I couldn't play that game til I beat Sonic Superstars. And then I 387 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.599 was so dead tired last night that I forgot that I made that promise and 388 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.039 I started up the game accidentally. People feel free to think of a punishment 389 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.000 for me. I will beat Sonic today, but I did play a game. 390 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:19.359 You know, A game is not charmmy fucking Sonic Superstars. Listen, 391 00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:26.440 I absolutely love. My favorite thing in this industry is Sega being incapable of 392 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:29.559 making good Sonic games. Yeah, but literally literally everyone else can do it. 393 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.880 Yeah. You give like random developers and make a Sonic game and they'll 394 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.079 make a bang of Sega's like, all right, we'll follow this up with 395 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:40.039 are On and they're like, we're going, we sucked it up. Happened 396 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:45.880 it's Sonic Superstars is just uh, completely charmless. You're right, no riz 397 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:49.400 at all. And then it's like it's by the numbers. It the only 398 00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.799 like positives are Hey, this is exactly like it was back on on Genesis, 399 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.480 except it looks kind of like a three D game on n CD plan 400 00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:02.400 now so, and the boss fights are fucking track terrible. Yeah, Mario 401 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:06.279 on the other hand, just phenomenal. It's like, so yeah, I'll 402 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:07.599 say I hit that, I hit the jump button, I hit the run 403 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:12.519 button, I bounced into a block. Holy shit, this feels amazing. 404 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:18.119 It's like it's it's astounding how good it feels. Why we played it packs 405 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.039 but I kind of forgot, Like, man, it just is so snappy 406 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:23.880 when you turn into the elephant and you're like bouncing around as an elephant, 407 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:29.160 and then all the animations then are just it's it's a delight. As you 408 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:33.079 said, So yeah, I'm gonna be beaten Sonic and then it's all Mario 409 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.079 brothers wonder because I've already beaten. Now it looks like someone just tweeted does 410 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.240 anyone know how to make hedgehooks in Unreal Engine? What could that mean? 411 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.720 To speculate everybody, Let's get out our thinking caps. All right, let's 412 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.640 go before we continue. Yeah, I know John is watching. I put 413 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.160 it in the chat. John, make it so I can use the soundboard 414 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.759 in discord? What's going on? I mean, okay, so I can 415 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.400 use it. Why wouldn't you be able to use it? I mean supposed 416 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:02.680 to press the button on the bottom left right. Yeah, there's a. 417 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:04.319 So they're like, you have your turn off camera, share your screen, 418 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.720 start an activity, and to the right of that is open soundboard. And 419 00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:12.119 okay, I don't know. Maybe maybe you don't have the correct permissions for 420 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.759 this room, but I can't imagine that's That's what I'm thinking. Do you 421 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.640 see that, you see that chat, you see that they won't give me 422 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:26.160 the correct commissions. Okay, this is gonna this is gonna go. Well, 423 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:30.640 okay, if you could, I think I could probably do it after 424 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:32.119 the show, but I'm not gonna do in the middle of show. So 425 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:33.640 you get you to do it in the middle of the show. You have 426 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.759 free reign to just take over. All right. Oh here he is, 427 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:48.279 Okay, let's see what happens. All right, let's let's do this just 428 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:56.839 a little full test. Little test was that we see if I got mine, 429 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.880 we got to find the complete the joke? Here, where's this? 430 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.960 Goddamn there we go. It's Donald dot for real. Thank you, Mike. 431 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:07.000 He still like Mike, all right? Uh okay. Asked about a 432 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:11.920 potential Venom spinoff game, Insomniac says it will Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, 433 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:18.680 It's a true classic. I love it is Donald for Real. It 434 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.680 was correctause it's when he first started Kingdom Hearts and he was so prying to 435 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.559 see Donald Duck in there. Got It's so good, all right. Asked 436 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.799 about a potential Venom spinoff game, and Somniac says it will listen to what 437 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:36.279 fans really want. This is from Tom Ivan at VGC. Insomnia Games has 438 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:40.039 suggested fans will play a significant role in helping the studio decide where to take 439 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:44.160 its Spider Man franchise. Released today exclusively for PS five, Spider Man two 440 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.799 continues the story the studio began at twenty eighteen Spider Man and it's twenty twenty 441 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:52.720 spinoff Spider Man Miles Morales. Peter Parker and Miles Morales both takes center stage 442 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.000 in the new game, with players swapping between the two Spider Man as they 443 00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.359 team up to battle villains including Lizard Craven, the Hunter, and Venom. 444 00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:03.200 Se Your Narrative director Joe Paquett, who has been story lead on all three 445 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.279 of the of the studio Spider Man games, touched on where the series might 446 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.920 go next during an interview with Insider. Asked about the potential for a Venom 447 00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:12.440 spinoff game, he said Insomniac will see how fans react to the latest title 448 00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:17.039 first. So here's what's what we're doing. We're focusing on Spider Man two 449 00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:18.519 and we're going to what we're going to do is we're gonna wait to see 450 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.000 how the fans react. We're going to listen to the fans, and we're 451 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:25.400 going to ask ourselves, Okay, what do the fans really want. We'll 452 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:27.400 kind of talk about stuff later after we've all had time to sleep, sleep 453 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:34.000 on it and take vacations. This is the worst possible thing that you could 454 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:41.720 put out into the world. Yeah, this is fans or that's what I'm 455 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:47.799 You didn't specify. You did not specify. You did not say Venom fans 456 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:52.759 of al a game, the fans of Venom, the version of Venom in 457 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:57.039 our game. All the gonna come at you. You just said Venom fans, 458 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:04.400 knowing that there is a freakishly large collection of emphasis on freak hyper wirdle 459 00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:11.000 stuff into Venom Tom Hardy. So now you are gonna have all those people 460 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.680 be like, we want, we want him, and then that's it. 461 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.680 Now we're gonna have a Tom Hardy Venom game. Well, okay, because 462 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.400 you say that, now I'm sorry. Sony looks at that and goes, 463 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.599 oh, these guys love it. Let's put it back in the cinema. 464 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.880 And then they're all goes, idiots, we weren't gonna go see in cinema, 465 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.160 but Sony's gonna look at this and be like, oh shit, they 466 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.440 want Tom Hardy in this game, so they're gonna make it happen. Everyone's 467 00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:38.720 gonna go we were joking. I've never seen those Venom movies I always want. 468 00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.759 I like, not like, oh oh no, I'll never watch that. 469 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.960 I'm above that are stupid and funny, and that's why they're stupid and 470 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.400 funny, and that Tom Hardy is just like having a good time, and 471 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.160 I'm all for that. Whenever Tom Hardy is having a good time, I 472 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.319 usually end up having a good time. Tom Hardy looks like he rolls out 473 00:31:53.359 --> 00:32:01.000 of bed every morning onto the set and just is like, ven it's a 474 00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:06.680 fucking good time, Hardy. Holy shit. Okay, yeah, I listen. 475 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.200 It's much to really kind of talk about what happens in the game. 476 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.880 I'll just you know, let's just throw all that. I'll throw out to 477 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.240 the side. Would a Venom game be a good idea? Dam No, 478 00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:20.799 I'm kind of I'm kind with you. I think that you know, we 479 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.880 do know you play a spider suit, uh spinom suit Spider Man in this 480 00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:27.480 game. That's been all the trailers. They kind of nailed it here. 481 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.200 You do what you don't need more than that. Really, I feel like 482 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.279 by the end of once people have played this game, they will both want 483 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.039 a Venom game and also not one a Venom game, which is not helpful, 484 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:44.200 but like, I feel like they we now reach the stage where they 485 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.119 cannot and so many it's smart enough to know that they can't saturate the Spider 486 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:52.599 Man angle of this and love it. Oh hey, Like regardless of how 487 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.559 they approach it, even the team create as creative as Insomniak. If they 488 00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:59.799 were asked to make them a Venom game, it would be very close to 489 00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:01.480 the Spider Man games that they were making, and at that point, I 490 00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:07.400 feel like they're like really like poisoning their own well. If they it in 491 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.880 that way, I feel like that they were not done with Spider Man. 492 00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:14.319 There's going to be more Spider Man Spider but yeah, there needs to be 493 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:21.279 a more unique hook than another character who basically plays and feels largely the same. 494 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:23.960 Yeah, it's like if if if it got incorporated some way into the 495 00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:29.200 next you know, I suppose if the next game from Insomniac in this Spider 496 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.160 Man lineage is Spider Man Colin Venom, send them, send them, similar 497 00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:36.039 the way Miles and Mouse worked. I guess that could work. I would 498 00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.359 just personally disappointed. I feel like people should play the game because they were 499 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.519 they will, They'll have a very good idea of what's next to on the 500 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.559 Yes, again, I'm trying to trying to avoid that. Yes, it's 501 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:51.160 very it's very very clear, and the thing that's next should be the thing 502 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:52.799 that's next, right. I think that they set it up so well makes 503 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:58.119 sense. I'm on board with what they have that. On top of that, 504 00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.720 like just speaking to the idea, they don't want to pull their eggs 505 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.920 in the same like we can do swinging really well. Basket is like they're 506 00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.960 working on Wolverine. That's a completely different Wolverine is not going to be swinging 507 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.719 around anywhere like He's My Man. Is going to be very angrily running down 508 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:17.199 streets, just like I hope that Wolverine game is the exact same self as 509 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:21.079 Spider Man, except they just do not have Spider Man, so we have 510 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:25.360 to play as Wolverine running down the streets like long. Yeah, he just 511 00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:29.119 he just started rigging a little heavy. But he gets there. He's still 512 00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:30.639 so angry. He just like he just runs through the door. He never 513 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.360 opens a single door. He just runs through every single door. Yeah, 514 00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.320 that's what I want. And he has to like very slowly clam up buildings, 515 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:44.440 spin holes like the elevator work way. He is. Fuck, yeah, 516 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:46.280 I would like that too. Hey, I tell you I after playing 517 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.840 this, whatever Insomniac wants to do, I'm on board that they'll figure it 518 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.280 out. I just personally would probably prefer something other than them, all right. 519 00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:59.559 Roadblock ceo tells remote workers to work in person three days a week or 520 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.280 lose the jobs. This is whom Grace ben Felt at Game Spot. Roadblocks 521 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.880 is ending a long standing work from home policy and telling remote remote employees they 522 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:10.639 must transition to in person workplace, potentially relocating or face being fired. And 523 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:16.760 a moment memo sent on October seventeenth via CNBC, Roadblocks CEO Dave Bazuki announced 524 00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:23.000 that a number but Bazuki, You're gonna get my Bazuki out, get your 525 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.000 Bazuki out because it's time to get back in the arbum to make fun of 526 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.960 this name because it's the CEO of that students. Yeah, I probably said 527 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.440 it wrong too, so that's probably not helping. Yeah, And a number 528 00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.360 of remote workers must join a three day office schedule at the company's headquarters and 529 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.079 Sam Mateo or Roadblocks will fire them. They will say that if they do 530 00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:45.760 fire them, that they have a severance package. I guess. But is 531 00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.519 that helpful? Yes, it's that help Okay, this is fucking roadblocks. 532 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.320 It's roadblocks. You know what game we just talked about, Spider Man two. 533 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.280 It's gonna be one of the best selling games of this year and it's 534 00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.760 gonna be a Game of the Year contender. You could work from anywhere in 535 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.159 the world on that game. Yeah, you think that's bad. You think 536 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:07.320 your game is roadblocks? And you know, the reasoning is the same horseship 537 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:14.159 of oh well in innovation and mentorship, and it's like, man, I 538 00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:19.320 just the reasoning every time is we spent money on renting for this building and 539 00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:22.519 no one is using yep, and we we are we need them to use 540 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.679 it, yep. Exactly. So yeah, it's it's stupid. I think 541 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:29.960 at this point the evidence is there. I mean, what, well, 542 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.039 so you know Star Wars Jedi Survivor was made fully remote. There's a handful 543 00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.360 of like some of the biggest games this year, We're done this way. 544 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.079 Why do why do CEOs think they can do this? Why they always get 545 00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:42.960 away with it? Right? They always do get away with it, right, 546 00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.000 I mean, or they have or if they have in the past, 547 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:52.599 gotten away with it because the labor market was at a point where hey, 548 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.159 if you had a job, you needed to keep it. You needed to 549 00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:58.400 keep it because going out there and just find another one that was going to 550 00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.280 be just as good wasn't super easy. Now it is, so I guess 551 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.320 I don't know why they think they can get away with it at the moment. 552 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.639 And then and then when people like tell them the sucks, they just 553 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.199 get rid of upset about it, and it's like why what, how do 554 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:10.559 you not see this coming? Yeah, Like they're like, but my artistic 555 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:13.960 vision, It's like, fuck you, you don't have any artistic vision. 556 00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:17.400 You're a CEO. Yeah. Yeah. They just come out and they're like, 557 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:29.760 I did everything right and they indicted me. I'm glad that was your 558 00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.719 inaugural sound effect. Damn, that really was important to me. Oh fuck, 559 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.480 oh the little face popped up and everything. Chance did you see the 560 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:43.559 little face? Oh god, I hope they did. Oh okay, yeah, 561 00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:45.800 I don't think there's nothing else to say about that topic. Thank you 562 00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:49.920 so much for that. Uh. Xbox ends It's big week by taking over 563 00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:54.199 the Las Vegas Sphere from Andy Robinson at BGC. Microsoft ran an Xbox advertisement 564 00:37:54.239 --> 00:38:00.000 on Las Vegas New Sphere venue on Thursday, filling the city Skyline with its 565 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.519 own spherical logo. Sphere is at eighteen thousand, six hundred seat entertainment arena 566 00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.400 with opened with that open last month. They used exterior features five hundred eight 567 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:13.159 thousand square feet of LED displays, display lights. Yes, and basically they 568 00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.840 put like their new commercial thing on there and everything. Oh you just are 569 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.440 you planning your next one? No? Have you seen that tweet of someone 570 00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:22.719 who's like, I'm in a Vegas and this is my view. They're in 571 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:29.039 their hotel room and the windows just cracked slightly, and the just it's just 572 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:34.039 the corner of like the angry emoji is so good. I love that. 573 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.599 Yes, that's very good. Listen this. I love everything about the Sphere. 574 00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:38.800 If that was happened to me, I'd be so excited. I want 575 00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:44.320 the Sphere to stare at me while I sleep. Absolutely, but this, 576 00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:46.159 I mean, what, Okay, Xbox spent a bunch of money to put 577 00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:50.159 a bunch of their Xbox shit on a sphere. Not much to say about 578 00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:54.039 that. I do wonder it seems like they have a big marketing campaign spooling 579 00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:58.320 up. They got that new trailer that they just put out. I can't 580 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.199 remember with what the mottel was for it or anything like that, but there's 581 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:04.360 spending a lot of money because it seems like they think they're in a good 582 00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:06.559 place now to be like, let me tell our story. Do you think 583 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.400 that's going to be effective? How fortunate is it for them that like the 584 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:14.199 Sphere is basically the exact same shape as their whole like Xbox, Yeah, 585 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:17.639 you know, and they're like, let's go on the horn and make this 586 00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:21.639 happen. Yeah, because it only opened a month ago, so like clearly 587 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.199 they were like they made that happen. I suppose if you're running the Sphere 588 00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:29.079 and you're like in charge of ad placement or whatever, maybe you reach out 589 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.679 to all these big companies but this seems like it happened fast enough that it 590 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:37.480 was probably a Microsoft team initiative to get on there. The advert that I 591 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:42.679 saw was the Cyberpunkorn where it's like Giant Keanu Reeves like coming to the screen 592 00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.320 taking his glasses off, And I was like, that's pretty cool if you're 593 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.079 in Vegas and you turn and you see Giant Keanu Reeves all the time. 594 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.400 Yeah, we live in at like a dystopian healthscape, so why not have 595 00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.559 some of the cool stuff that's always in dystopian, like the sci fi fiction 596 00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:57.719 and stuff like that like this, Well, I don't have the game about 597 00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:01.159 a dystopian Healscape and the Dystopian HealthCap exactly. Yeah for real. So yeah, 598 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:07.960 Hey, I think that Microsoft has done a good job of making fans 599 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:12.440 feel pretty okay about investing in the Xbox platform, even when there haven't been 600 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.400 a lot of like tangible reasons to feel great about it, like when there 601 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:19.840 were no games quite some time from Xbox. They're getting to a point where 602 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:21.840 they are going to have games. They just had Starfield, and they're going 603 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.559 to have more stuff and they have fortsa and lots of thoughts of subsplan for 604 00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:28.960 next year. But that the way that they were making people feel good about 605 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.199 was like, you know, Phil Spencer's good on Twitter, and the social 606 00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:35.280 team is like really on top of things, and they connect with their audience 607 00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.440 and they you know, they listened to all the Xbox podcast and they know 608 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:42.039 what they're what they're worried about, and they speak to those anxieties. This 609 00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.559 feels like, okay, we've got that on lock. Let's go out and 610 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:50.000 actually just spend real money now and and actually do some real marketing and see 611 00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.119 if we can make Xbox feel like it's got a lot of momentum. Uh. 612 00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:57.719 I'll be interested to see how how well this works, But I think 613 00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:59.639 I don't know. At the very least, it shows that, hey, 614 00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.239 they just sixty nine million dollars on activisti Blizzard and now they are spending a 615 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:06.320 ton of money marketing all this stuff, and it feels like they're super committed 616 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.239 to Xbox in a way that like maybe wasn't questionable. But I think for 617 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:12.159 a while there, I'm like, I don't remember a big campaign like this 618 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.239 from them in recent history. It's like kind of thing where they're like, 619 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:16.920 eh, it'll take care of itself. And now they're kind of taking the 620 00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:21.320 initiative. Do you read it that way at all? Yeah, I hope 621 00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.039 they go real weird with it, Like I would love for them to just 622 00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:28.199 be like, let's just put Master Chief's head on this thing. He's just 623 00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:32.119 like hovering the entire time, and every now and then he's like season five 624 00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:37.480 out now and he's just like looking around and that's it. I mean, 625 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:39.559 even like like very because I mean I listen, I don't know how much 626 00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.880 did the same cost, like where you could just do memes, but just 627 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.960 like blinks the time sweeper just like like just like yeah, just coming in 628 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.639 like Phil Spencer. Phil Spencer just appears and he's like, hey guys, 629 00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.679 I'm Phil Spencer, head of Xbox. Welcome to Las Vegas. And then 630 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:59.079 that's it enough more he leaves the sphere. It's got like a screen inside. 631 00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.239 I mean that's what they inside and outside. Yeah, I'm like, 632 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:06.639 I think I'm going to try to go to baby. Imagine playing Super Mario 633 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:13.000 Galaxy on nothing. No, but I would running around like running around planets 634 00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.719 like that would be so And that's yeah, Like I wonder if you could 635 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:17.360 play games on the outside, like sit in your hotel room and look at 636 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:22.599 it from like about two miles away. I cannot wait for the day when 637 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:27.840 the new story comes out, like uh fhair technician accidentally leaves phone connected to 638 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:40.519 while playing, but just it's the sound just lost out Las Vegas speaking, 639 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:46.400 shattered four miles in all directions, and then you just still poll what the 640 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:51.639 fuck is that being attack? And then just a giant gaping button. Yeah, 641 00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:53.840 oh boy, okay, uh man, Yeah, I want to play 642 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.000 games on it for like two miles away. Then I'm like, that would 643 00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.519 be the speed of light, would have a little bit of lag at that 644 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.440 point. Yeah, late and see at that point might be pretty funny. 645 00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.920 Uh oh well, okay, let's uh let's get on with these last few 646 00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:09.039 stories here, uh x or don't get that one BioShock movie writer is excited 647 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:13.280 to dig into the great, big, sprawling nightmare. This is from Eddie 648 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.920 McCoo at Game Spot the writer. It's not happening, all right, who 649 00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:22.760 this bullshit? Yeah, it's not working on us anymore. We've all wised 650 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:24.440 up. There's no bioschruck movie. Is this the This is the one I 651 00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:28.840 believe the least out of every single movie announcement. I felt like, oh, 652 00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:30.320 we're working on that one. It's like you've been working on a BioShock 653 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.800 movie for like Schuck movies coming out. When a week off the mel gets 654 00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.679 right and it's they were they were working a Halo movie forever, and they're 655 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.440 like, let's just do a TV show and even that like to Forever, 656 00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:44.960 Forever, forever, and BioShock just doesn't have the same kind of momentum as 657 00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:46.920 even like a Halo which didn't have the same kind of momentum as like The 658 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:52.119 Last of Us or whatever. And so yeah, I learned not to. 659 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.559 I adore BioShock. Yeah no, yeah, for sure. Nobody gives a 660 00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:57.800 fuck about Bucks. That's what I think too. Yeah No, I mean 661 00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.400 like gamers love it, but like the clout needed to make that work beyond 662 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:05.360 video games is not there. Like maybe it will spin up again once that 663 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.960 new Bioshot game comes out, but I doubt it. Man, Like Bishop 664 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:12.880 had had its moment and that was the time to do it. You had 665 00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:17.199 Ken knocking about ready to write stuff, you know he did. That was 666 00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:21.960 it Logan's Run, Gilligan's Island. He was supposed to write Logan's Run, 667 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.320 a Logan's Run remake, which I obviously I didn't write it, but it 668 00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:27.079 never happened. They probably did, right, and they were like, yeah, 669 00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.599 cheers, mate, Yeah, thanks dude, Like that was the time 670 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.239 to do it. And I'm sure if ken Like got on board again, 671 00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.719 it would be pretty fucking good, because that man knows how to write shit. 672 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.639 But I don't think it's got. I don't believe it, like until 673 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.480 it appears, I don't believe it. And then again, it is Netflix 674 00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:49.280 and they will there was fourced through whatever trash they need to to get it 675 00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.199 out. That like is whatever. God, that's right. I mean I 676 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.320 forgot. I could be forgot about the Gore Verbinski BioShock that was supposed to 677 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:58.800 happen forever ago after he did Pirates of the Caribbean and they wanted to make 678 00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.519 it. I don't wanted Michael bioshop. That's the only BioShock interest. He 679 00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:07.440 should make every movie, I think absolutely. Spider Man two Cereal cost up 680 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.880 the seventy dollars per box but still sells out. This is from Georgia, 681 00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:15.039 a game spot. Wheati's is selling a special limited edition Marble Spider Man two 682 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:19.400 box for forty five dollars that comes with a physical copy of the prequel comic. 683 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.599 Additionally, the seventy dollars version of the bundle that includes in a custom 684 00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:27.760 acrylic case for the comic has already sold out. The box is a dual 685 00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.960 facy one that includes both Peter Parker and Miles Morales on each side. Owners 686 00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:35.519 will also receive an exclusive digital collectible of the box that can be shown off 687 00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:40.440 in the mobile PlayStation app. Okay, that's fine. If any gamer ever 688 00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.199 came up to be like, look at this thing I have, and then 689 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.559 they opened up the PlayStation app to show me their thing, I would walk 690 00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:50.559 away if you I'm warning you right now. If you've seen me and you 691 00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.039 show me your box of Spider Man's who I'm snatching out behind an eating a 692 00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:55.679 file face, that would role. Actually, yes, Steve, it's you 693 00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.559 know you're a Wheaties guy. You do you e Wheaty's Wheaty is okay? 694 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.920 I think no, I don't eat weze. I think I feel like this 695 00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:06.519 is the kind of thing where if you see someone with it, you they 696 00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.480 yes, you do. You've all bullied them? Yes, actually yeah, 697 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:14.880 because you know that they spend like eighty dollars on that ship and they think 698 00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:16.400 it's the coolest thing ever. But it's not. That's said. If they 699 00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:20.719 if they want to send me one, I'll just I'll take that. Yeah, 700 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.800 if you want to send us some Spider Man, send me whatever you 701 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:28.119 got. Yeah for real, well we'll have it. Uh. Takashi Izuka 702 00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:35.280 explains the timeline placement of Sonic Superstars certainly am dueling at Nintendo Life. The 703 00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.079 co op adventure Sonic Superstars made its debut on The Switch earlier this week, 704 00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:42.559 and if you're curious to know where it slots into the overall history of the 705 00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:46.440 series, the head of Sonic Team, Takashi Iszka, has now set the 706 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:51.400 record straight. It apparently occurs after Sonic Mania. What the fuck are you 707 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:57.480 talking about? And the three D Entry Sonic Adventure. Isaica also mentioned how 708 00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.159 the team is always careful to make sure the story fits with the low or 709 00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:07.159 you are fucking about us? What is about? What is what lore? 710 00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.599 I know there are Sonic fans out there that are probably like, actually, 711 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.320 no one cares. All right, people are making fun of you. Stop 712 00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:19.039 it. We do not need to know, We do not need to have 713 00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:22.199 this explain to us. I feel like it is like, if you know, 714 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:24.719 if you're interested in Sonic Law. You know what's going on. You 715 00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:28.239 know where that takes place, right, You do not need to have a 716 00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.199 moment where someone goes, hey, guys, I'm the head of Sonic. 717 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:36.320 I would like to let you know that Sonic Superstars takes place after Sonic Mania 718 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:42.280 in this uh, in this timeline, Amy Rose is pregnant and we will 719 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.119 see the consequences of this in the next Sonic game. Thank you for your 720 00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:50.159 time. Oh cares man, we're doing the Mario argument again about mainline Marios, 721 00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.719 tam and I. Please just you stay steer clear. You don't want 722 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:54.599 any part of this, save yourself. Here's the thing, just in case 723 00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:58.800 people think I've got some so biased I'm gonna fuck when Mario takes place, 724 00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:00.400 Okay, I do not have a I don't care about what's going in the 725 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.280 Mario world. Is he jumping, That's all I need. As long as 726 00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:07.039 he can still jump and he's having a good time, that's wonderful for me. 727 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.119 That's generally my my definition as well. For for like this whole argument, 728 00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:14.639 which I definitely do care about because I'm broken and stupid. Uh, 729 00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:16.199 but yeah, it's like, hey, it's if it's a Mario game where 730 00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.280 he's running jumping, that's a Mario game. But some I was like, 731 00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.400 I get why some people say, Yoh's Island isn't I don't really care put 732 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.119 it in, put it, don't include it whatever. I honestly don't care 733 00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:29.719 the game. What's that is is Mario and Yo, she's on the game. 734 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:34.559 He's like a power up for like a baby. Yeah, it's it's 735 00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.360 a Mario. It's ear. One of the time we find that he's a 736 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.639 baby. His name is baby Mario and the yo she's looking off to him, 737 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.920 it's a Mario. Again's a man a marium chop. I think that's 738 00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:45.360 yeah, and I think that's completely fine. But I was like, I 739 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:46.920 get why some people say no. And for me, the argument was like, 740 00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:52.320 well, there's Super Mario Land three Warrior Land, but I don't think 741 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.000 you ever play as Mario. And then people who get into that that level 742 00:48:54.079 --> 00:49:00.119 of detail are just just upset their entire life. Yes, so this is 743 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.239 this is how they get revenge on everyone. Whether like I was bullied for 744 00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.280 this, now I'm gonna make this everyone's problem exactly, Yes, but any 745 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:08.920 I was like, I get it, even though again I don't really care 746 00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:10.840 about Yosha Island. Put it in. Put it or don't put it in. 747 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:15.159 I can go either way on that one. What does Mitch think about 748 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:17.760 it? He thinks he thinks that Yoshi's Island is not because it's not Mark. 749 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.639 I would like to I would like to assert the opposite of whatever Mitch 750 00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:23.719 is saying. That's mainline game, that's the right thing to do. Everyone 751 00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:28.000 knows that Mitch is wrong about everything. So but exactly. Oh yes, 752 00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:32.480 so thank you, damn thank you, damn god, he's buddy. Listen, 753 00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:37.719 get out out right now. This is very rude. Why I'm doing 754 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.239 Game mess mornings? You want not invited? Head gros just connected him. 755 00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.719 We're good, thank you. I hope I didn't actually kick him from the 756 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:52.280 surfer. I hope. It's just like that the live stream and the big 757 00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:54.679 kick logo just popped up there and everyone saw it. That's very funny. 758 00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:59.719 Uh, But talk about yoshis I on Twitter and I was just like, 759 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:01.960 I get why some people say no, and someone's like, no, it's 760 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.039 a prequel because he's a baby in there, so clearly it's part of the 761 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.199 story. And I'm like, what the that's not the conversation We're happening. 762 00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:13.679 The lore doesn't matter at all, Like, that's not what we're saying. 763 00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:16.960 I lost my mind a little bit there, but uh yeah, you're right. 764 00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:21.519 Whatever Mike says, Let's just go the opposite. That's a Mitch from 765 00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.519 mitche there we go. Yeah, up. The direction from Mitch RoboCop is 766 00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:30.519 bad. Opposite direction from Midge known RoboCop lover Mitch Telkodo. All right, 767 00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:34.480 we got a poll question from yesterday. Let me see if I can find 768 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.960 where I put that. It's over here somewhere, John, I'll just do 769 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.559 that. I'll go to YouTube dot com slash at giant Bomb, just like 770 00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:46.280 you can to vote on these polls. And the question is have you played 771 00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:50.519 Minecraft in the last month? Yes or no. I'm I'm gonna vote no 772 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:54.159 because I have not, but twelve percent have. This is we asked this 773 00:50:54.320 --> 00:51:00.599 because there was a MPD. Sirkana said that twenty two percent of people who 774 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.599 own a console or PC have played Minecraft in the last month. In our 775 00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.639 audience, it's just twelve percent, but that's still a lot of people. 776 00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:13.159 That's like a significant proportion is still playing Minecraft every day. That means that 777 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.079 means at least twelve percent of all audience are eight years old. Yeah, 778 00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:22.920 let's it's too much power. Damn, it's too much power. Because you're 779 00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:25.599 good at like setting up your own jokes. The fact that you can also 780 00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:30.559 then do the rim shot is a scary, scary thing for me. I'm 781 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:32.920 glad. Yeah, I'm most excited about it. All right. We got 782 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:36.000 another pull question to come it up here in a second. But before you 783 00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:37.239 do that, Tam, why do you tell people what you got going on 784 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:45.559 where they can find you and all that good stuff? That's sorry, try 785 00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:49.840 to click away. It's uh. I was always I'm like always like in 786 00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.360 the middle of like a light club, I'm like looking for a funny one. 787 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.079 I'll there's a preview option on there, and like half the time I 788 00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:59.119 accidentally just play it instead and it's scarce to hell out of them. I'm 789 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:05.000 real thing. We have a new sort of spot on coming out. It's 790 00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:10.159 about now what happens now that Activision is owned by Xbox. And it's not 791 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:14.039 one of those ones where it's like I think they should make a new Tony 792 00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.320 Hawk. It's not one of those ones. It's more about like the broader 793 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:22.239 picture of what it means. We recorded Jeff Jess Bizarre Adventure quite late. 794 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:23.800 This is my fault. As you might be able to tell, I'm slightly 795 00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:27.440 sick. I'm still quite sick. I've got a bad sore throat and I'm 796 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.000 a little bunged up, and it was way worse on Monday. I didn't 797 00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:31.960 have my voice when we're originally going to record it, so we had to 798 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.880 delay it. And I think that it's going to come out next week instead 799 00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:37.159 of this week. So apologies for that. That's my fault. Send me 800 00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:42.280 your hate mail and then we've got what we do. What we're doing to 801 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:46.079 friend night Folk was yesterday, yesterday, yes so today we got we got 802 00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:50.559 upf There's gonna be basically some Spider Man and some Mario. It's what's going 803 00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:52.400 to happen. Yeah, I might try and pop in on that just to 804 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.800 just coming out. That'd be great. Yeah. I'm trying to convince people 805 00:52:55.840 --> 00:53:00.320 to play for this count Strike again, and hey, you don't. It 806 00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:02.920 won't take much convincing because Backler really wants to do it. So I think 807 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.800 if you guys get that that momentum going, I'm on board. I would 808 00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:07.559 like to play some more counter Strike. That would be a lot of fun 809 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:09.960 as long as you agree to play more Titan Fall two with me. If 810 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:15.119 we play down. I was sad that I couldn't play the Lost one. 811 00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:19.280 We'll make that happen again as well. Yeah, he said, TNTs have 812 00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.920 been a lot of fun. We did yesterday. God, but we played 813 00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.159 Halo Halo Infinite. That's still a really fun game turns out. So yeah, 814 00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:29.719 a lot a lot of good time. Yeah, anything else, Tam, 815 00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.800 that's everything awesome? All right? The poll question, uh, let's 816 00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:37.159 see here, it's going to be Is ray tracing a big deal for you 817 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:38.960 in the next Nintendo console? Yes or no? Just yes or no? 818 00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:42.880 I just want to like it. And if it's like I would vote no, 819 00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.599 but you know in your heart what the answer here is for you. 820 00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:51.320 We'll discuss this on Monday's Game mess morning here on giant Bomb. Speaking to 821 00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:54.000 giant Bomb that upf will be happening in about an hour from now. If 822 00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:57.480 you're watching live, if you're watching later, be sure to check it out 823 00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:01.199 on YouTube or on giant bomb dot com. And with that, I think 824 00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:04.000 it's time to get out of here, Tam. Thank you so much for 825 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:06.360 spending today talk with me about video games. Man, I appreciate it. 826 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:08.800 Thank you for people who are here, stick around. I've got one of 827 00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:14.960 those stupid surveys that we can talk about again. Fantastic. If you aren't 828 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:17.079 here, that's a good excuse for you to try and be here live next 829 00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:20.679 time. Next Friday, when I'm here, I always have one of these 830 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:22.559 dumb surveys for us to chat about. Thank you so much, Tam, 831 00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:25.239 I'm looking forward to it. We'll get to that right after this. Thank 832 00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:28.960 you all for watching. You're the best audience of gaming. Until next time, 833 00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:30.960 take care of yourself and goodbye.