WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:05.639 This is Hudson River Radio dot com. This is Travis Walton and you are 2 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:20.079 listening to UFO Headquarters. Beautiful Headquarters. Good evening, everybody listening tonight on 3 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:26.039 Hudson River Radio and beyond. This is UFO Headquarters. I am your host, 4 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:30.600 Michael Warden, and tonight I am flying solo in the hosting seat because 5 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:35.320 Linda Zimmerman is a little bit illum. She had a little bit of a 6 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:40.159 medical issue in the last week or so. She's doing much better. If 7 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.439 anybody wants to give her well wishes, you can find her on her Facebook 8 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:48.280 page. I'm sure she would be appreciative of that. So hopefully she will 9 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:52.280 be back in the other seat driving the show, because without her, we 10 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:55.280 really don't have Hudson River. We don't have the UFO Headquarters. I mean, 11 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:58.479 right, Brian, that is true. You have to have Lindau. 12 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:02.159 But yeah, she's doing much better, and you know, she wanted the 13 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:04.400 show to go on. I talked to her a little bit today and she 14 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:10.120 was a little disappointed that she couldn't do the show because of the guests who 15 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:12.159 we managed to get at the last minute, and I am extremely grateful. 16 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:18.519 He was one of my favorite guests when he was on the last time and 17 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:23.959 could talk to him probably for days and be entertained and thrilled and educated at 18 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:27.200 the same time. And that is mister Preston Dennett. And I'm just gonna 19 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:30.400 before we get into what we're talking about tonight, talk a little bit about 20 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:37.040 who Preston is. Preston has been investigating UFOs and the paranormal since nineteen eighty 21 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.920 six, when he discovered that his family and friends and co workers were having 22 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:45.760 dramatic, unexplained encounters. Since then, he has interviewed hundreds of witnesses and 23 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:51.000 investigated a wide variety of paranormal phenomena. He has a fielding guest investigator for 24 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:55.920 the Mutual UFO and network move On, a ghost hunter, a paranormal researcher, 25 00:01:56.079 --> 00:02:00.480 and the author of twenty nine books and more than one hundred articles UFOs 26 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:05.239 and the Paranormal. Several of his books have been Amazon UFO best sellers. 27 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:09.960 His writing has been translated into several different languages, including German, French, 28 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:15.879 Portuguese, Russian, and Icelandic. He's also appeared on many radio and television 29 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:20.000 programs, including Midnight in the Desert with Art Bell, Coast to Coast and 30 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:24.960 also the history channels Deep Sea UFOs and UFO Hunters. His research has been 31 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:30.400 presented in the La Times, the La Daily News, the Dallas Morning News, 32 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:35.719 and other newspapers. He's taught classes on various paranormal subjects and lectures across 33 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:39.199 the United States, and he resides in southern California, which I probably should 34 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:44.120 have clarified that that was Eastern time. That might have been my fault there, 35 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:46.680 Preston. But welcome and thank you for coming on at the last minute 36 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:52.960 to you know, and joining us tonight. Hey, always a pleasure. 37 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:55.639 I love talking about this stuff, so thanks for the opportunity. I appreciate 38 00:02:55.639 --> 00:03:00.319 it. I'm sorry about the time confusion. Hopefully it all worked out. 39 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:05.159 Absolutely, we're here and we're gonna talk about your new book, Symmetry in 40 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:07.919 a few minutes. But when I was chatting with Linda today on the phone, 41 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:12.000 briefly, you know, she said, you know, when you have 42 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:15.560 Preston asked him a little bit about Catalina and the u s OS, the 43 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:22.919 unidentified submerged objects, and I admit that scenario. I haven't really followed a 44 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:28.439 lot of so I'm curious what is going on with Catalina and USOS. Oh. 45 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.520 I wish I could tell you exactly, but I can tell you a 46 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:38.159 few things because I started getting reports very early on my research from activity in 47 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:44.400 this area the Santa Catalina Channel, and we're cataloging them, of course, 48 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:51.400 and they really started to snowball more and more, and before long I found 49 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:58.280 myself really embroiled in USO investigations, particularly after I went on the television program 50 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:03.560 Deep Sea UFO, which was so successful it was their number one rated show, 51 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:14.319 beat out Ice Truckers, right, and then they called me back for 52 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:18.839 you know, episode two, and that brought more cases, and it just 53 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.319 yeah, I just kept on building and building. I'm like, fine, 54 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:25.279 I guess I'm going to look into this, and ended up writing a book 55 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:31.439 about it called Undersea UFO Base in Depth Investigation into the USO Activity in Santa 56 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:34.600 Catalina Channel in Depth. See what I did there? I like that. 57 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:41.040 But yeah, mile for mile, I'm good. I can say with pretty 58 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:44.439 good confidence that it's one of the top producers, certainly the top ten, 59 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:50.319 if not the top, of USO reports in the world. I have well 60 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:57.040 over one hundred and fifty firsthand accounts, some involving just a few sightings, 61 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:04.399 but many involving multiple object wide range of cases, all different shapes, photographs, 62 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:10.279 on board encounters, a few people being claimed to have been taken to 63 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:17.600 an underground undersea basse. It is he hugely active there. I think I 64 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:21.680 need to get to California. I have friends there. I've been saying I'm 65 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:26.120 gonna go. I think I have a reason now to go and go out 66 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:29.279 there and maybe do a USO watch. I mean, do people do that? 67 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:33.160 Do people kind of do steakeouts trying to observe things? Yeah, it 68 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:39.639 seem straight out of close encounters. They set up their lawn chairs and once 69 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:44.639 and wait, and a bunch of reality TV shows have taken advantage of this. 70 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.600 There were the recent documentary A Tear in the Sky. They did it 71 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:54.800 Keeping up with the Kardashians called me. They wanted to see the UFO. 72 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.319 They lived there and they did. You know, I told him here's how 73 00:05:57.319 --> 00:06:02.040 you contact them. Really. Expedition an X did a very good episode and 74 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:06.040 actually saw some stuff. Caught it on footage a USO coming right up out 75 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:11.439 of the water and that was on Expedition X. Yeah, I'm gonna have 76 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:14.639 to look for that episode. It was a good one. I've done quite 77 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:19.160 a bit of reality TV I'm not always happy with honestly about it. Yeah, 78 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:26.839 I thought they did a really good job. So yeah, definitely it's 79 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:31.000 a great place to see US activity in UFO activity for that matter. Yeah, 80 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:36.439 I definitely think I'm long overdue for a California vacation investigation. I can 81 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:40.639 write it off that way. It's a it's a work related trip, right, 82 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.959 you don't actually need an excuse to go. You're allowed to go just 83 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.680 because you want to. So I don't know. Um, So we're gonna 84 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:53.160 take our first break and when we come back, we have a special guest 85 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:57.560 that is also going to join us. We're going to talk about Preston's newest 86 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:01.560 book, Symmetry, a true UFO Adventure. I'm joining us as going to 87 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:06.279 be Dolly Saffron, who is the subject of that book. 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Hudson Radio dot Com a subsidiary of 105 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:45.639 Glacier Entertainment all LC blasting the competition in New York's Hudson Valley, and we 106 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:52.799 are back here live UFO Headquarters on Hudson River Radio. We're expanding a little 107 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.279 bit past the Hudson Valley today with Preston Dennett's newest book, Symmetry, a 108 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:03.159 True UFO Adventure. And this is a very unique, extremely well written book. 109 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:07.159 First of all, then, person, I have to say, when 110 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:09.120 I read your book, I feel like you're in the room talking to me. 111 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:15.759 It's it's such a fun, easy, comfortable read. It's very accessible. 112 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:18.799 And that to me when you told this story it's a very personal story, 113 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:22.840 it really felt like you were sitting there and we were just talking like 114 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.240 we're having a conversation. So my hat's off. That's not easy to do 115 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:31.279 on a subject like this, and you nailed it for what it's worth from 116 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:35.000 me, I totally appreciate that. And to hear you use that word accessible 117 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.919 is something I've learned, you know, with you know, writing, and 118 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:45.360 something I encourage other people who are you know, contact you're trying to put 119 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.240 their story together. Just make it accessible, make it easy to read, 120 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:52.559 you know, use sensor the senses of people feel like they're there. So 121 00:09:54.240 --> 00:10:00.600 yeah, that's exactly exactly. I definitely there was a few of the descriptive 122 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.639 the scenes here that I was just like, you know, blown away, 123 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.799 like you could picture them. You really, I was almost seeing I think 124 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:13.039 what what Dolly was seeing. But I think no one wants to listen to 125 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.600 me talk. It's really about you and Dolly tonight, and this is Dolly 126 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:18.799 Saffron. Dolly, Hi, and thank you for joining us tonight. Hi, 127 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:22.120 and thank you for having me. Thank you very much. I feel 128 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:26.879 like I've known you for years after reading this book, so it's interesting to 129 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:31.240 talk to you. Like as I'm almost done reading, I didn't get chest 130 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:33.399 to finish it. It's funny I've been reading about it and then it's also 131 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:35.159 like you know, normally you don't get to meet the people that are talked 132 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:41.440 about in books. So thank you for coming on and for those that you 133 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:46.200 know, Preston. This is a unique book because this is an in depth, 134 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:52.600 detailed account of an experiencer, an abductee, whatever word that we want 135 00:10:52.600 --> 00:11:01.080 to use here, and their experiences with that throughout their life. So take 136 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.960 it away that I mean, it's just fascinating. Yeah, this is one 137 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.720 of the most difficult books I've ever written not the most because it does cover 138 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:16.799 Dolly's story from her entire line, and I've never had that opportunity, and 139 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:26.120 she is, I can say, absolutely the most awake contact. Her experiences 140 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:30.639 are not recalled to hypnosis. This is something that she has experienced in real 141 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:35.200 time, which is very unusual. The vast majority of people I've interviewed I 142 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.200 have a lot of fear surrounding their encounters. I've kind of shied away from 143 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:43.080 hypnosis. I think it works, but a lot of them do have missing 144 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:48.799 time and those memory problems. Not Dolly. She reached out to me in 145 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:54.919 twenty sixteen and you know, wanted to see if I was interested in her 146 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:00.080 story, and of course I was, And the more she talked, I 147 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:05.879 became really entranced, fascinated, and more than interested. I was just blown 148 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:11.639 away. I had never heard a story quite like hers. It's very detailed, 149 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.879 very extensive. I've heard a lot of the details piecemeal from other people, 150 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:22.840 bit by bit, and always almost always through the lens of fear. 151 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:26.360 But her story nose starts all the way down to ten months of age, 152 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.039 which is crazy when you think about it. But I have to tell you, 153 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.919 I've got a lot of contacts who claimed this. So I wasn't surprised 154 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:39.080 to hear Dolly saying this. And she woke up at age fourteen and really 155 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:46.000 became aware. And what's really funny is she was looking for someone to tell 156 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.919 her story. And I found out later she shared after we had become quite 157 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:56.840 good friends, that she had gone to the ETS and asked them, you 158 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:58.240 know, like, I want to tell my story. Is it's okay? 159 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:03.240 Are you okay this? She's had a full on relationship with them. I 160 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.399 mean she's with them hours, weeks, days at a time. And they 161 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:09.639 said, yes, if that's what you want to do, we will support 162 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:15.519 you. You'll find someone. Just search and you'll find a good researcher. 163 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.840 And she couldn't. She was unhappy with a lot of researchers out there. 164 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.200 So am I for that matter, summer on my nautil list for sure, 165 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:28.840 I'm with you on that, but they find She went back to that, 166 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:33.320 I'm a little frustrated. I can't find anyone I really trust, and missaid, 167 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:35.840 well, here's a guy. He's on YouTube. Look him up. 168 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.480 His name is Preston, last named Dennett. I'm like, WHOA. When 169 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.200 she told me that, I was like, what the Grays know about me, 170 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.240 and I had a suspicion because this is not the first time that's happened, 171 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:50.080 and it wouldn't be the last. So that's how I came to meet 172 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:54.360 Dolly. That's that's probably the best referral I've ever heard when I when you 173 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:58.639 think about it coming from from something like that, and I liked in the 174 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:01.399 unit auction, you put it right out there that Dolly, you know, 175 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.960 and I'll address this to kind of both of you, that Dolly didn't want 176 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.399 to just tell the story to anybody. And you know, we hear that 177 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.559 a lot from people that when they wanted, when they're finally ready to talk, 178 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.600 they want to make sure the person that's going to be on the other 179 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.279 end that's either listening and telling your story or helping them tell the story, 180 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:26.159 is the right person. There was some debate about that. Before I even 181 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:33.080 struck out to look for someone, I had told to lot on board what 182 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:37.360 my intentions were. I was looking for their okay, you know there, 183 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:43.399 it's okay if you do this. And I wanted to talk about the possible 184 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:48.080 ramifications of what I did giving my life, and so there was some pow 185 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:52.200 wowing about it at first, and they made me realize what I was going 186 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:58.000 to face, what was headed at me, which didn't help at all and 187 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.879 not at all. And when I struck out to fund someone, I ran 188 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:07.759 up against a wall of people who were more interested in the story, not 189 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.639 the body of the story, the facts of the story. They were very 190 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:16.039 sensational and I wasn't looking for that. I was looking for somebody who could 191 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.320 tell the facts. And when I met when I was shown im Preston. 192 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:24.639 I found him on YouTube and I went to his very first video that he 193 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:28.000 ever put up and it was about healing. And when I watched it, 194 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.120 I realized, oh my god, this is it. You know, this 195 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:35.919 is the one, And I emailed him and he may be back in less 196 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:39.480 than a day. Listen to twenty four and it just went from there. 197 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:46.120 So and I do find Impreston you touched on this. We have interviewed a 198 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.080 lot of different people over the years on this program who have had experiences, 199 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:56.080 and most of them are traumatic. When we talk to the people that are 200 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:03.639 recalling what they've experienced, it's a lot of fear. Was different because you're 201 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:10.080 you. This is a very positive experience, and that struck me because that's 202 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:11.919 not what we're used to. For the most part. I'm sure there's other 203 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:18.360 experiencers can report similar things, but yours is very in depth, very positive. 204 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:23.200 I didn't get the sense of fear at all from this book. Yeah, 205 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.879 I can tell you that most of the people I've talked to start out 206 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:30.519 very fearful, but most, I'll underline that most come around at some point 207 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:36.240 and feel like this was ultimately a positive experience for them. Long before I 208 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:40.200 met Dolly, i'd pretty much come to the conclusion that ET contact, while 209 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:48.399 initially traumatic, is benevolent in its you know, entirety. I guess that's 210 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.600 not quite exact word I'm looking for, but in its essence, I guess 211 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:55.039 I would say. So, they're not trying to hurt people. That's not 212 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.120 their agenda. It's not to scare you. First thing they'll say is, 213 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:00.480 you know, don't be afraid. We won't hurt you. Their intention, 214 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:06.759 you know, I found a barrier on is very healing based, very much 215 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:12.480 trying to wake people up, warned them on various things, and yeah, 216 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:17.839 absolutely true. A lot of people are very scared. So when I started 217 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:22.359 talking to Dolly, I'm like, yay, and she started really answering so 218 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.079 many questions that I had, so I just wasn't sure because so many people 219 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.400 are a little you know, trying to figure things out themselves. Right And 220 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:33.480 Dolly, once you get to know her, she's a bill get her. 221 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:38.119 She's a firecracker. She will jump in with both feet and get it done. 222 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:41.880 Well, I think now I know, Dolly, you mentioned um. 223 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:47.880 I believe it's Clara. Is that the proper pronunciation to Lara? Yeah? 224 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:49.599 Yeah, I speak with a Swedish accent. I was going to say, 225 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:53.720 you rolled the R like to Lara. Yeah, it's my first language of 226 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:57.759 Swedish. That's pretty I've done to Sweden several times. One of my favorite 227 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:03.720 places, expects to Finland my favorite. Okay, well no, yeah, 228 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.640 so that's awesome that you um. I heard the R role. I knew 229 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:10.599 it right away. But maybe we should talk a little bit about, you 230 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:18.200 know, just who Tara um and the main um ets that are involved here 231 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.960 in this story, because it's important to put that context out there so people 232 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:26.920 understand the depth of this. And you know, I don't know, Preston 233 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:29.440 if you want to touch it, or Dolly if you want to introduce you 234 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:33.319 know who who these I don't want to say people, but who these are? 235 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:41.200 People? You know people are um Telara is a fifth dimensional, non 236 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:47.279 corporeal entity. He's an intelligence. He's very old. He has lived in 237 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:52.480 this dimension that we're in. He's just send it up in evolution for herself 238 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:56.759 and for others like him. Uh, he is. I want to describe 239 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:00.319 the main frame of existence for you real quick and then you'll understand what I'm 240 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:03.920 talking about. We live in a universe and it has many galaxies in it. 241 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:07.759 There's a lot of physical stuff in it, and it's all a main 242 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:14.680 frame of third dimensional density. It's very gravity heavy. It functions, it 243 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:19.880 does what it does. We are entities, we are consciousness that all come 244 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:25.720 from the core of that universe, and we all live in physically. When 245 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:30.279 we're in our bodies, we live in that third dimensional space. Before that, 246 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:33.559 we're in what you could term source. Okay, people use that word 247 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:38.559 and they identify with it. But in this main frame there are twelve different 248 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:41.960 dimensions. If you understand what a dimension is, you know that in this 249 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:48.240 dimension you have three D right, you can draw a four D square right, 250 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:51.359 and then you can draw a five D square. And some people have 251 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:55.000 a hard time with sixteen seventy. But it's possible you can use an AutoCAD 252 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:59.519 and actually try to show it in movement. There are beings who live in 253 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:03.359 those ensis and they see us, they live with us, they're around us 254 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.960 at all times. Their consciousness as well. They interact with us. You 255 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.319 just don't know it because you're cut off from them right now. You're not 256 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:18.559 living in a space where your consciousness is able to completely commmunicate with your physical 257 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:23.559 brain. Okay, So Chlota is that fifth dimensional entity who works with et. 258 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:33.960 They've evolved into dimensional travel and they long long time ago, years ago, 259 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:38.920 met with dimensional beings who decided that they were on the verge of ascending 260 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:44.319 up into it, and they decided to teach them and help them heal themselves 261 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:48.759 and work with them. Everything they do is psychic, Okay, Everything they 262 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:56.200 do is not corporeal. It's conscious and they have unbelievable ability. To us, 263 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:57.960 we think it was magic, but it's not. It's just the way 264 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:03.279 that energy is working. You know that everything is light. We're dense light 265 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:07.400 here, We're very tightly packed dense light. But we're creatures of light. 266 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.559 Is all. Also, we think in light, we have brain waves, 267 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.119 you know, alphabeta, theta, gamma, delta. We can transmit that 268 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.359 out. We can receive it in via a gland that we're all born with 269 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:23.640 in our brain, subpenial gland. Okay, and if it's working properly, 270 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:30.039 you would be very you would see what was really going on. You would 271 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.400 you would be able to penetrate the veil between the third and the fourth dimension. 272 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:37.359 You would see into it. You know that you have people talk about 273 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:41.880 guardian angels, you know, people who come and help them out of nowhere. 274 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:45.079 Those are dimensional beings that live around you and they see you, they 275 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:47.799 love you, and they work with you. From time to time. We're 276 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:52.559 in constant communication with them, only we don't know it. Okay. So 277 00:21:52.920 --> 00:22:00.359 that's what delata is. Ets travel in a craft that isn't dwelt like dwell 278 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:07.160 our own bodies. That craft it's somewhat biologically constructed, and it has a 279 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:11.319 place for him to be in dwelling in it like like we dwell from the 280 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:15.799 point of our heart. That's our electrical connection to this body. Okay, 281 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:22.559 in our brain. We our heart transmits to our brain, our brain transmits 282 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.480 to our heart. It's a whole thing all right, So that's the first. 283 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.119 One of the first entities that I came in contact with is a very 284 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:34.000 very young child. I also came in contact with an entity that is a 285 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:40.119 tall gray. There are different ethnicities of gray's, different height, you know, 286 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:42.359 places that they come from, but they're all human like we are. 287 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:47.839 They are the human genome. One of the things that you have here in 288 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:51.759 The reason I wanted to call the books symmetry is that the entire universe is 289 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:56.200 a schematic for all life. Okay, and life doesn't vary very much throughout 290 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.960 the universe. It's all corporeal. It's all DNA driven. If you're alive, 291 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:04.400 you have DNA. All the animals have DNA. We're all connected to 292 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:07.440 one another, and we're all related to one another. Okay. I mean, 293 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:11.920 you know, we know for a fact on this planet that you have 294 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:15.519 chimpanzees, ducks, geese, pigs, goats, you name it. We 295 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:21.119 all have very long strands of the same connective DNA. That shows that even 296 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.160 a chicken, if you're looking at it in an egg, it starts out 297 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:29.319 embryotically identical to us. Okay. That drew people out, So we are 298 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.200 related to that. There are progenitors. We are them, they are us. 299 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:37.400 We are one, Okay, the whole universe, all right. So 300 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:42.319 Mama is a tall gray she's about six foot two. She's extremely intelligent. 301 00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:45.880 And I met her when I was almost six years old. When they brought 302 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:52.359 me on board. At that age, she became sort of like she's my 303 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:55.880 handler. She's my mama on board. She takes care of me in place 304 00:23:55.920 --> 00:24:00.480 of my own mother here, and she's what guarded me, watching me throughout 305 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:02.920 my life. I'm not the only one she want to switch because when I'm 306 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:07.319 not with her, she has others. Okay, she's about eight hundred thirty 307 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:11.160 six thirty seven years old. She doesn't give me the exact number, and 308 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:14.119 I have now begun to look older than her. Okay, it freaked me 309 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:21.039 out. She is she's highly intelligent. There are other grades. They're a 310 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:27.920 little AI grace. They are the autonomous artificial intelligence grades that are somewhat corporeal 311 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:33.440 or biological as well. They don't reproduce, they don't have consciousness like we 312 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.839 do, but they're program They can make decisions, they have rudimentary ability to 313 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.640 understand, and they can somewhat teach themselves. They're programming allows for that. 314 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:45.279 But when they're not in use, they turn off. You can turn them 315 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:51.519 off. They are needed, they're absolutely needed because we know that in space 316 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:55.480 there's gamma radiation. There's gamma radiation that hits us here and it absolutely de 317 00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:59.519 rises your DNA. It will take you out. We know the proof of 318 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:03.880 that. Two astronauts from NASA, two identical brothers, when went into space 319 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.119 for every year. He came back after a year and his DNA was not 320 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.519 the same as his brothers anymore. And he's still in the process of that 321 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:18.160 DNA healing itself back to slow process. We live in a planet that has 322 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.480 a magnetic core, and we have a biosphere. We have a magnetosphere. 323 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.319 Okay. That magnetosphere protects us from incoming gamma radiation bursts, you know, 324 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.519 and it's out there all the time. There's no such place in space that 325 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:34.480 doesn't have some sort of gamma coming at you. Okay, heavy duty gamma. 326 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:40.039 It fluctuates like a giant sea of energy out there. For them to 327 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.640 exist in space into the work they do, they need to have something that 328 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.720 goes out and does the heavy duty work for them. They prefer to be 329 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:49.880 in a magnet magneto sphere like we are. So they travel. They use 330 00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:55.319 interdimensional gates like gates, and they go from place to place, but they 331 00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:59.119 get on planet as fast as they can or otherwise they would die. Period. 332 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.759 So there's a mama. I've met other types of you know, two 333 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:07.680 other types of grays. One I call him mids by the way, Mama 334 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.720 has four fingers. And then there's the there's the mid sized grays, and 335 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.960 they're interesting. They're very very thin like the AI and they only have three 336 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:21.319 and they use a prosthesis on their fingers to do manipulation and stuff like that. 337 00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:23.960 It's like a little cup that they would on their hands. They put 338 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:30.400 it on like a glove. They are short, short grays. And it 339 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:34.759 was amazing. When I was talking to Preston, he told me his sister 340 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:40.400 in law, Kissara, who's an artist for all his books, had drawn 341 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:41.480 a picture of one that she saw as a child. And I said, 342 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.319 let me see it because they're kind of bluish gray, you know, and 343 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.680 he showed it to me. I was shocked. That's them. She drew 344 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:53.440 them very accurately. She bought it. There are other types of ethnicities of 345 00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:56.559 et. There's also what you would call a Nordic or a tall ray. 346 00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:00.480 They're very very tall. They get taller I get older. They are very 347 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:07.880 long lived. There are I have seen a mented type once in my life 348 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:14.359 and I had to have a kidney transplant. I was poisoned about seven eight 349 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.200 years ago and my kidney's found tanked and I had to have a kidney transplant. 350 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.319 And when I was recuperating right after my surgery, I was staying at 351 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:27.720 my my donor's house and they have big farm and it was real pleasant for 352 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:30.400 me to be there. And it was a real blustery that day. And 353 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.680 I'm looking out the front door because the screen door was shut with the glass 354 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.079 on. It was coming up on winter and the other door swung in and 355 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:42.000 I'm looking across the way at a line of one of the fields, and 356 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.759 I see this movement and I'm like, what the heck. I was actually 357 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.839 talking to Preston on the phone and I said, just a minute, I 358 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:53.640 had a little teeny stupid motor roll of foot phonel okay, lovely camera, 359 00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:57.200 and uh. I got up and I walked to the door and I'm using 360 00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.400 it to you. Zoom in on that out because it's seat above a stump 361 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:04.960 and it stood up. It was crouching down way loo and it just stood 362 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:10.119 up and I was like, holy moli. You know, I dropped everything. 363 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.160 I opened the door. I'm in shorts and a T shirt. It's 364 00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:15.759 called Wendy, and I went booking it across to go talk to it. 365 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:19.000 I'm like, suck, don't move, I want to talk to you. 366 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:23.440 And it was like and it turned and it's as it was walking away. 367 00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.000 It's like sending me this message. It said, we are the Watchers and 368 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.119 I watch over you. And I mean it was so fast I couldn't keep 369 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.079 up with that. Just had a kidney transplant. I was very disappointed. 370 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.440 I've never seen another one. Now that's you know, so that was my 371 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:44.079 big thrill for that part of my life. I've seen other ethnicities. I've 372 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:51.559 seen a knocky. I've seen um they look like dogs that like a horse, 373 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.079 you know, Egyptian horse. And I've seen ones that look like raw, 374 00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.799 you know, sort of birdie looking. I've seen I've seen one that 375 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:06.440 looked sort of like really big bipedal cats that pearl a lot like a real 376 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:11.680 cat. Freaked me out. I've seen I've seen and I so once I 377 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:18.039 had a an encounter, not a positive one. I used to live in 378 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.480 the Amerglades and I used to go dig up Indian burial mounds out there, 379 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:25.680 you know, and the hardwood hammocks and the lads, and the only way 380 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:27.519 you could reach them was by canoe. So I'd take my canoe and I 381 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.559 go to one a day. My camping stuff. I camp out and just 382 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:37.640 do digs. Okay. It was very into archaeology back then. And I 383 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.000 was packing up, going home, getting ready. My canoe was on a 384 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.799 mound that was on the other side of a big waterway, you know, 385 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:49.440 waters everywhere, and I felt something behind me, and I was like, 386 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.279 oh crap, what is that? And I turned and there's this giant tall 387 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.039 um. I didn't know what to call it. I called it Lozard diet 388 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:03.000 okay, present me, I'll call him reptillions. And all he had on 389 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:07.759 his mind was lunch. And that was all I needed. And I booked 390 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.279 it, Okay, I mean, I just I didn't even take any I 391 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:15.200 just and I ran for the water. I splashed in. I'm fighting sawrest. 392 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:17.680 I got the my canoe. I didn't even take the time to get 393 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.680 in my canoe. I'm pushing it and paddling as hard as I can. 394 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:25.240 I never went back for a month. I'm glad you brought that up, 395 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.240 because that was actually one of the notes I made to talk about tonight, 396 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:32.839 was that encounter in the Everglade, because it freaked me completely out. I'm 397 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.359 not freaking out reading it. I'm not going to the Everglades now. Yeah, 398 00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.240 it's like, oh my god, the alligators scare me enough. Let 399 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.839 alone. I'm not afraid of alligators. That's the funny thing. I know 400 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.519 how to deal with them. That was walking, you know. Uh No, 401 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.559 but we do have to take our second break really quickly. 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I'm Michael Warden with me tonight. 420 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:34.640 Is always a pleasure to have Preston Dennett and our other special guests. Who 421 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:39.400 is Dolly Saffron. So you know we we heard Dolly explain a little bit 422 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:46.519 about the different encounters the types of people she's encountered. But Preston my Um, 423 00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:51.519 you know, it's an extraordinary book. The claims were extraordinary. What 424 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.680 you know, if what was your first reaction when you first heard from Dolly 425 00:32:54.839 --> 00:33:00.359 and started to hear these details. What were you thinking? Uh, well, 426 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.160 my first thought was, yes, I've heard this before. I've heard 427 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.200 this before, and here are some really you know details that are perhaps not 428 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:12.480 super well known, such as what the interior of the craft look like. 429 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:20.160 You know, people often describe being physically examined. I think the popular conception 430 00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.039 as you're laid out on a table, or more often it's a chair, 431 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:29.440 a dentist like chair. Probably describe that all these details, perhaps like people 432 00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:34.960 will describe how the wall turns transparent. There's not necessarily windows as we would 433 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.920 think of them. Instead, they can sort of unpeel the skin of the 434 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.440 craft. Dolly talked about that, so, you know, as she just 435 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:43.799 went down the list of her experiences, I'm like, yes, I've heard 436 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:46.960 this before, I've heard that before, but it was extraordinary to here in 437 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:52.720 such detail. I think what really made me hop out of my seat was 438 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.599 her experience at age fourteen where she was taken on board. She you know, 439 00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:02.440 initially had missing time, but recalled it that morning by just sheer willpower. 440 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:07.119 And you know the first thing that happened when she was taken on board 441 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:13.599 as she puped, yeah, I've heard this before, but she gathered her 442 00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:19.719 wits and she described being taken to see the planet Saturn. And that was 443 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:23.519 just a big wow to me because this is exactly what Jay Gardner, a 444 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:28.639 contact D from West Virginia, had described. He was also at a very 445 00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:31.719 similar age. I believe he was twelve, Dolly was fourteen, but they 446 00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:36.880 took him and showed him Saturn. And this is actually something that happened to 447 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:42.079 Raymond follow her very well known you UPLO researcher who came out of the closet 448 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:46.320 as a contact D and said he had this happened and others too, So 449 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:52.079 that was really cool. So all these details started to add up, and 450 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:57.599 I can tell she was very emotional talking about some of this, even moved 451 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:01.119 to tears during some parts. I mean, her story honestly made me weep 452 00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:07.400 at parts, made me laugh so hard. Really just gave me a sense 453 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.119 of wonder like I've never felt before hearing her talk about, you know, 454 00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.119 going to the moon, Like, yes, this is what Kevin Cammon told 455 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:20.519 me a Navy medic. He says he nearly crapped his pants when he saw 456 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.840 the Earth rising up from behind the moon. He assumed it was, you 457 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:27.800 know, some desert with craters in it. It was not. They were 458 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:34.360 taking him around the moon, exactly what Dolly described. So as she took 459 00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.000 her a while to really open up to me, which I totally understand that's 460 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:45.639 normal with contact these they're very wary. But just as her story really developed 461 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:50.599 and unfolded, it started to answer all kinds of questions for me. You 462 00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:52.880 know, she talked about the Ai grays. Can't tell you how many people 463 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.599 I've talked to, you know, said Probia came into my room and they 464 00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.679 weren't very emotional, and you know they may be robotic. I think they 465 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:06.519 might, you know, be androids of some kind. So Dolly was able 466 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:08.440 to you know, talk about that in detail, and she really answered a 467 00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:14.039 lot of the questions that I had surrounding all this. You know, one 468 00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.079 of the questions I had kind of jotted down Preston and Dolly, you also 469 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:24.199 you talk a lot about visiting like the Saturn, mars Um, the Moon, 470 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:30.000 you know, different planets and stuff, and you know, a common 471 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.239 theme with with anything with the ets is people tend to explain that it's it's 472 00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:37.840 always psychic, you know, they hear things are told to them, are 473 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.760 shown to them, you know, mentally, it's not shown to not holding 474 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.199 a picture up. So Dolly talks in the book about being shown what Mars 475 00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:51.199 was like when it was once a thriving, livable planet. Um, you 476 00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.280 know, the images just I guess being sent psychically, kind of like how 477 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:59.079 we air dropped from phone to phone today. But you know, my question 478 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:05.679 was as I'm reading that is are these physical experiences? So are the experiencers 479 00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.079 that are going to the Moon or Saturn are they physically being brought there? 480 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:15.639 Or is this an advanced form of where basically they give the experience by putting 481 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.519 it right into your mind as if you've been there, you know, Like 482 00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:28.159 I was thinking, a biological virtual reality almost like Dolly can talk about this 483 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:32.960 for sure, but no, this is physical. Dolly was gone from her 484 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.440 house for hours at age two. The police were called. She was not 485 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:43.400 there. This is true with many contact de accounts. A guy from Louisiana, 486 00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:49.119 Tim was supposed to bail Hey with his brother and his father was sitting 487 00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.800 on the bail wagon waiting for them, and they came running out, like, 488 00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:57.159 where the heck have you been? An hour and a half has passed, 489 00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:00.159 he says, I was right here. They are physical ysically taken. 490 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:08.159 Physically, this is one physical people are physically healed. They are given implants. 491 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:13.320 I mean, we have proof of this. These craft are physical, 492 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.519 they're photographed, they appear on radar. People are not where they're supposed to 493 00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.679 be when they're taken. But yeah, Dolly can talk about this, and 494 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.440 I think she will echo that, Yeah, Dolly, can you talk about 495 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:30.599 because Preston talked about the experience as a child, the one that as a 496 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:37.840 parent made me like just the complete parental fear was where you were found six 497 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.840 miles from your home. Like I read that, and I mean, I'm 498 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.880 imagining my little sons at the time, with their little legs walking, you 499 00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:52.320 know, Dad carry me after five minutes of any place, let alone six 500 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:53.760 miles. And I think that's a good start. I'd like to hear that 501 00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:59.679 a little bit from you. I was about two years old, and I'll 502 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.519 prep by stating that a few months before it happened to me, I had 503 00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:07.639 my tonsils taken out the first time I'm actually wearing the third set. I've 504 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:15.159 had them out twice. I grew a third pair. My father, who 505 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:20.880 was one of those really doting I love you Daddy's brought me a giant red 506 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.199 balloon full of helium and tied it to the end of my bed. And 507 00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:30.000 I loved this balloon. Okay, it was my friend, and it kept 508 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:36.800 me company while I had this done to me. They knew that. And 509 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.639 when they came and got me. My mother was heavily pregnant with my brother. 510 00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:44.800 She was about eight months pregnant. And it was the middle of the 511 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.119 day. We were all locked in the house. My father was gone and 512 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.440 I was supposed to be sleeping, and she came in to check on me, 513 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.880 and I wasn't there. She searched the whole house. All the locks 514 00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:00.840 were in place. I was already a master escape artists. Amen, all 515 00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.760 the high up locks, you know, on the doors, the winds, 516 00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:08.000 everything shut. And she called my father first, and he was on his 517 00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.400 way home, but he was all the way down, you know, on 518 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.719 the coast. She called the police. The police came to the house. 519 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:17.320 They went through the house, we went through the yard. They looked through 520 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:22.719 everything, even in the cross space under the house. They enlisted the neighbors. 521 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.800 Everybody started looking for me. Nobody could find me. An hour went 522 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:31.440 by. My father finally pulled up and they put my mother in one of 523 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:37.199 the police cars. They put an apb out of me, and I mean 524 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:42.679 literally started running the streets everywhere they could think of. I lived in a 525 00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:47.760 massive canal system in Miami, in West Lakes, Florida, and in Miami 526 00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.679 and Southwest Miami, and I was just nowhere. Another hour went by, 527 00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:58.159 the phone rang, my dad picked it up, got ahold of the police 528 00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:00.800 officers with them. They rady owed my mother in the card that she was 529 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:07.599 in and they drove her to a little utotum on Miller Road, which is 530 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:10.239 six miles from where we lived. I was sitting on the counter, pissed 531 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:15.639 off, angry because when I got dropped off, they told me I would 532 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:19.559 be given a red balloon. The guy told my parents that I showed up 533 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:23.320 at the door in my underwear nothing else, banging on the door, trying 534 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:29.320 to get in because they told me to go to that go there. I'm 535 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:30.639 two years old. How do you get a two year old to tell you 536 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:35.719 what's going on? I'm saying I went with friends. They didn't get that 537 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:39.639 at all. They actually dusted me off. They were looking for stuff. 538 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:43.639 They looked at the bottom on my feet. They were complete. I mean 539 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.400 I had a physical checkup. Okay. I guess they wanted to know if 540 00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:51.960 I had been mishandled that kind of thing. I was perfectly pristine, okay. 541 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.519 They sent me home with my mom, and my dad had come. 542 00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:58.239 I was at a hospital after that, and they sent me home with my 543 00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:04.719 parents, and my parents talked about not living there anymore. That's basically where 544 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:10.599 we went into the Everglades. We went way far away. They've they've talked 545 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:15.239 to me since that happened, trying to get me to describe what was happening 546 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.760 to me. And I just said, you know, the lady came and 547 00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.239 got me. I was so young, and they were blanking my memory. 548 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.960 At that point, I couldn't remember in a fluid line what happened to me. 549 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:30.360 I do have a memory of sitting up in bed and seeing her walk 550 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:34.039 in and me going out with her carrying me. That's the only memory I 551 00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.079 really have, other than being told i'd get a balloon, which I never 552 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:43.880 got, and and and then going home with my parents and being at the 553 00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:45.800 hospital. That was kind of true. That was traumatic. Okay, that 554 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:55.519 was yes. Yeah, I can tell you that it is a physical thing. 555 00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:00.599 Okay, I've been taken ever since I was a little girl. I've 556 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:05.039 been educated by them. I've been trained by them. Why they picked on 557 00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:07.719 me. The only thing I can tell you is I one the genetic lottery. 558 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:12.000 That's all I can say. You know, I'm I'm just one in 559 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:16.280 lots of people who have had I guarantee you say similar to me and are 560 00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:22.239 not talking. One of my biggest interests in coming out was I can't wait 561 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.920 to hear somebody else open their mouth and start talking. Okay, I'm looking 562 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.480 for it. I can't be the only one I know why. It's physical 563 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:37.000 and basically it goes along with how everything is for everybody. We are. 564 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:40.840 We come here for a reason. You know, if you've ever asked yourself, 565 00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:45.000 why am I here? What's the purpose of this life? Basically, 566 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.000 in source, you know everything, You're part of the online You're you're capable 567 00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.880 of doing anything and knowing everything. But you can't employ your knowledge. You 568 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:58.639 can't ascend with it. Okay, you can't make your your consciousness stronger and 569 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.519 up, okay, And we come here physically to learn, become wise, 570 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:08.760 to own what we know where it become wise. Okay. They can't teach 571 00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:13.320 you by talking to you. They can't give you memories of anything. You 572 00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:15.760 have to have them for yourself. You have to wield your own ability. 573 00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:21.639 Each individual person in the universe has to do that. That's how we learn. 574 00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.519 And so yeah, it's a physical experience. And if you're picked up 575 00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.920 by them, if you're contacted, it's going to be a physical experience. 576 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:34.880 I can tell you why people are afraid. We're taught to be afraid. 577 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.239 This is this is the most afraid place in the universe there is. That's 578 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:44.400 where people here are driven to it. You're you're given lessons in it. 579 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:50.039 Practically, paranoia, fear, just like, hey, division all of it. 580 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.320 We're bombarded with it daily. Okay. It's really hard to use your 581 00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:58.719 abilities in those circumstances. So, yeah, you wouldn't understand it yet. 582 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:04.599 You know. One one interesting or two details early on in the book I 583 00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:08.239 thought were interesting is one is the mixing up of clothes and how you started 584 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:15.559 going to the nightgowns because and you know what, and it made me laugh 585 00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:20.320 because I'm thinking, here are these advanced beings, and you know, they're 586 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:24.360 mixing up the clothes, such a little detail, but I just don't care. 587 00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:27.239 They don't care, and that's kind of what I thought, Like, 588 00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.480 I'll just it's clothes, put it on them. Yeah, pretty much, 589 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:35.239 if it's the right size. So I had a way of just having stupid 590 00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.360 little nightgowns all the time a day. Yeah, that sounded practical. But 591 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:45.199 what I've really found fascinating because I've always wondered this the decontamination part, because 592 00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:52.719 I've always wondered when, when dealing with an extraterrestrial and our environment are unique, 593 00:45:52.800 --> 00:46:00.440 you know, microscopic life forms bringing us onto their craft, how would 594 00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:05.000 we possibly upset so pressed it? I don't know how is this a common 595 00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.840 theme? The decontamination to me was like makes sense, Like this is what 596 00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:12.480 I would expect if I was brought out a spaceship. I would kind of 597 00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.719 expect, Hey, you know, you got to hang out in this room 598 00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:16.280 for a few minutes because you know, he got earth bugs on you. 599 00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:21.320 Basically, yeah, it's common to people who are able to remember it. 600 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.039 A lot of people don't describe this, but those who are able to get 601 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:29.840 some memories of what's actually happened to them. Yes, certainly, Betty andreas 602 00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.519 And described this, and as Dolly started going into it, I'm like, 603 00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:38.840 wow, this is very much exactly what another guy described. Don Anderson also 604 00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:44.920 very much in a wake contact. D described how he was taken on a 605 00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:49.360 craft. They took him into this little room, very small, you know, 606 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:53.079 kind of closet sized. A beam of light came out down and started 607 00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:58.440 bathing him basically, and he said, what's this? And he was kind 608 00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:04.559 of, you know, with a praying mantis type te praying mantis kind of 609 00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.519 cocks his head, was searching for the right word, and he says stop. 610 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:15.000 So yeah, and I really wanted Dolly to go into detail about this, 611 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:19.920 which she did. And yeah, and she can tell you because there's 612 00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.199 not a lot of information about it. I have heard it, but it's 613 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:28.000 you know, few and far between. Another example of how extensive all this 614 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:35.159 case is. Yeah, we live in a microbial soup. We're used to 615 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:40.559 it, you know, ore, we're we're pathologically bound to it, you 616 00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:44.639 know, we're in symbiosis with it. Here, we also live in an 617 00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.960 open aired place where we can breathe around it or breathe through it. It 618 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.039 cleans itself and had you know, we have different things in place for us 619 00:47:52.079 --> 00:48:00.880 that naturally supposedly UM circulate. Thanks for us, and it helps balance this 620 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:05.119 out to be here. They are on a craft, it's got its own 621 00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:09.199 environment internal, and you start plug putting people on it besides them, and 622 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:15.320 you're going to start breathing that person's microbial soup and everything they brought on board 623 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.440 with it, and no, no, it can happen. So they use 624 00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.800 a light and I could equate it to UM. You know, you use 625 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:28.360 ultraviolet light to kill germs here. They put them in plenums and air conditioners. 626 00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:34.239 You can put it in your water system and you know there's a thousand 627 00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:38.679 ways to use ultra violet light to kill germs. UM. That's what it 628 00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:45.320 is. You're being based in a light source that kills all the existing on 629 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:50.800 the outside of your body, the microbes that would cause problems for them. 630 00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.079 So that's why, Yeah, that's and that's what I thought about. How, 631 00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.400 especially with with COVID, the uv D content nation took off. I 632 00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:07.480 mean people were suddenly buying them to put their groceries into clean their um. 633 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:09.719 You know, their cell phones are keys is anything that they came in contact 634 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:14.599 with them, and I'm thinking that it's probably not a UV light they're using, 635 00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.400 but something more advanced but very fascinating. Yeah, they also gave you 636 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:22.519 a drink to drink, and part of the what that drink does, it's 637 00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:27.280 like we take probiotics, the good guys. It's that's part of them helping 638 00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:34.480 you stay healthy and avoiding still to pass them something it's important. So yeah, 639 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.239 I've got many accounts of that. I did a whole study on alien 640 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:42.039 drinks and I always wonder, you know, this is what I love so 641 00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.239 much about Dolly's stories. So I'm like, what are these four? You 642 00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:49.800 know, Whitley Streeber talked about being fed something to drink, and I've heard 643 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.480 them many times, people speculating. Now, you know, this is the 644 00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:58.480 maybe people forget it's some medicine, it's we don't know. But this is 645 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.760 where, you know what I love about Dollies. She's able to communicate with 646 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:06.800 the Grays face to face and ask questions and will. When I say her 647 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.519 case is extensive, I am not kidding. She's taken from age fourteen. 648 00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:16.400 She was taken pretty regularly and would spend a couple hours, sometimes a couple 649 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:21.760 of days, sometimes a couple of weeks, and being taken back to that 650 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:25.280 same night, sometimes minutes you know after, because they can pull you out 651 00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.440 of the time stream, so to speak. I think that's probably a simplification 652 00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:35.719 of what's going on here. But yeah, it's amazing to hear her talk 653 00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:39.440 about all these different aspects. Another like being people talk about breathing pools. 654 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:45.280 They're placed in liquid where they can breathe the liquid, and nobody seems to 655 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:49.880 know what this is about. And Dolly was able to describe, Oh, 656 00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:54.119 yeah, that's something they do to heal people. So yeah, there's a 657 00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:59.920 lot of healing going on. Yeah, we smoke too much on this planet. 658 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:04.000 Your lung stick crunchy and munchy, you know, and they help with 659 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:09.599 that. Yeah. I um that you mentioned Preston about the time, and 660 00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:14.639 I did want to touch on that because I found that a fascinating detail as 661 00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:17.480 well. I mean, the book is just it's engrossing. It's easy to 662 00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:22.559 to just get lost in it and read. Um, but you know, 663 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.559 you would be gone sometimes for much more than just a couple hours. We're 664 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:31.760 talking days, sometimes longer, but yet you were being brought back to where 665 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:36.599 you were taken from. Yeah, and but it would be what minutes or 666 00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:40.679 maybe hours later? And this is they can manipulate time or how is it? 667 00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:45.920 Oh, they don't manipulate it. Um. Okay. You know. 668 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:50.760 On the ISS, they had an astronaut and his wife conduct time experiments, 669 00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:54.840 and what they did was they had him up with a waukee talkie and she 670 00:51:54.960 --> 00:52:00.039 had one so they could communicate with each other openly. They had times, 671 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:07.880 and they had speed regulation during these experiments, and they did a three or 672 00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:15.320 four day I think it was four days total of marking speed and time and 673 00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.760 time variation between the two points. And what they found out was the faster 674 00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:25.920 the astronaut was going, the more time slowed down for him that remained static 675 00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:30.039 on the planet and she was still in the same time, but he was 676 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:35.880 slowing down the faster they went. Okay, And it kind of blew their 677 00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:40.199 minds because macmat the equations for this are bedded in the theory of relativity, 678 00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:45.320 okay, in Einstein's theory of relativity, and it kind of proved him right 679 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:50.559 about it. But this is true, the faster you go times to a 680 00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:53.039 standstill. But then at on top of that, you're in this dimension. 681 00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:58.599 Okay, So you're slowing time down in this dimension. But you can also 682 00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:01.880 go outside this demon engine, and that's when you go outside of space time. 683 00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:07.119 And the way things look to you when you're outside of it is that 684 00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.880 all of a sudden, your consciousness expands, okay, and you know everything 685 00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:14.719 that was before, and you can see everything down the line on the other 686 00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:16.199 side of it, and the way you see all time at one time. 687 00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.280 For me, this had to be talked to me slowly. I didn't get 688 00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:27.239 it right away. It took a long time for me to simulate or even 689 00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:32.039 conceive of what the heck was going on, okay, because I see things. 690 00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:37.199 I see things layers and layers and layers and layers of existence all at 691 00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:40.000 once, okay, And sometimes it's confusing to me and I have to center 692 00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:45.559 myself or center on where I'm really actually at it can it can throw you 693 00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:51.239 out of everything, okay. And until you like leave corporealism you know where 694 00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:55.039 the physical, you won't really one hundred percent get it, okay. So 695 00:53:55.320 --> 00:54:00.519 yes, they can take you out of time. You can travel back in 696 00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.920 time or forward in time. I've done it. They took me back in 697 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.639 time. They've never taken me forward though, And they really don't get off 698 00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:13.800 on doing that either. There's a reason they have a morality code that won't 699 00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:17.800 let them. Because when you're a physical being and you're living, if you 700 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:22.480 knew everything ahead of time, you wouldn't you wouldn't live. According to the 701 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:29.360 law of karma, okay, every decision you make mentally is a split decision. 702 00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.239 It's right now. You can only be present where you're at right now 703 00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:36.559 today, okay. So they really won't go into the future at all. 704 00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:39.679 If they go back into the future, they're mostly observing. They have no 705 00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:45.920 desire whatsoever to interrupt it, become part of it. I mean, there's 706 00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:49.800 no given everybody a second chance. It is what it is. But they 707 00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:54.840 use it like a history lesson, okay, and they watch it sometimes it's 708 00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:58.119 not a big thrill for them, or they don't do it often, but 709 00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.639 it happens. They do check the But once you're out of it, you 710 00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:06.079 can see it anyway. You don't really have to experience it. You've already 711 00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.639 it's already there. When you're in this dimension right here, time is dead. 712 00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:13.840 It's an empty space. That's a real trip. It can't it can't 713 00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:16.519 go back into it at all. You have to be outside of time space 714 00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:22.440 to do that. I hope that helped. Yes, I think so um, 715 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.760 Okay, it's a complicated subject for a lot of people. I think, 716 00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:30.119 just yeah, you know, think about there's not more than one timeline. 717 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.760 There's only one timeline. It's in the third, first, second, 718 00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:37.320 and third dimensions. There's a definite timeline. And that's because gravity is dense. 719 00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:42.639 It's heavy, and it compacts everything and it makes you feel like you're 720 00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:45.800 slowing down. You're so heavy you can't move fast at all, and time 721 00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:51.199 there's a timeline. That's the other way that astronaut proved the faster you go 722 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:55.360 times slowed down for him. Not here, Okay, it reverses itself somehow. 723 00:55:55.400 --> 00:56:00.159 It's creepy and complicated, but it is what it is. Okay, 724 00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:05.599 So we're running lower on time here because we can talk about this probably for 725 00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:08.760 hours. And so as we begin to wrap up, Dolly, what is 726 00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:14.079 the ultimate message that you hope to first all, I hope other people come 727 00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:15.920 forward, because that was one of the other things I thought was the floodgates 728 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:21.280 are open. Hopefully impressive email is going to blow up with people. But 729 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:25.119 I just really am watching. Okay, I answer people all the time. 730 00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:31.119 Please talk all right. Their message is really, really simple. We are 731 00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:37.119 related to them. We have all the same physical traits and gifts they have, 732 00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:39.119 and we are not using them. And we need to wake up. 733 00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:45.280 It's time to wake up. We are too much involved in not paying attention 734 00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:50.360 to what really is for silly things that have nothing to do with your existence 735 00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.599 at all. And I can tell you that you only here for a short 736 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:55.960 time. Anything physical here you don't take with you. The only thing you 737 00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:00.760 take is your wisdom, your experiences, your love. That's it. When 738 00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:04.760 you leave it, all that other stuff goes away, and it matters not 739 00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.559 a hill of beans. Okay, how you treat each other? All of 740 00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:12.519 that The only way you're going to reach that knowledge is if you start opening 741 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:16.199 up your penia line. Stop becoming toxic. We've poisoned ourselves to the point 742 00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:20.920 that it's a real issue. Drink, eat right, you know, meditate, 743 00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.360 practice being psychic. If you've got little kids, let them be. 744 00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:29.519 Let don't tell them you're crazy. Okay, let them be psychic. They 745 00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:32.920 will bring it up to you fast. Okay. Let them tell you what's 746 00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:38.400 going on and understand that they're telling you their truth. Okay, there's a 747 00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:43.400 tool. Russell targ put it out there. He was a CIA agent for 748 00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:45.760 the government and the greatest thing he ever did for everybody was leave this tool. 749 00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:52.119 It's called ESP Trainer. It's in the app store. It's good for 750 00:57:52.559 --> 00:58:00.960 Apple and Android and your PCIOs and you can download it to start practicing and 751 00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:04.320 playing with it. Play with your family with it. Everybody practice, get 752 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.679 into groups, talk about it, open up. They want us to communicate 753 00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:12.360 with each other and ultimately with them. That's what they want because once you 754 00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:15.679 do that, you'll start to see the truth of thanks and pay attention to 755 00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:19.239 what's going on around us right now or so, it's just because we get 756 00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:22.000 real issues coming at us and we need to pay attention to it. Preston, 757 00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:28.559 let me turn to you and some thoughts. What is it you know 758 00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:30.280 when people get this book, what do you hope they take away from it? 759 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:37.039 Yeah? I think Dolly put out our story not so much to convince 760 00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:42.239 people or persuade them that UFOs are real, but to provide information for those 761 00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:46.519 who are seeking for people who are having these experiences, and to really correct 762 00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:52.719 the beer based viewpoint that is, you know, so being put forth by 763 00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:59.280 the media and is absolutely not warranted. It's not true. I don't think 764 00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:02.440 we should look to our government for answers. Um they don't think we should 765 00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:06.920 look to other people for answers. True answers come from within, from personal 766 00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:13.719 experience, and Dolly's story I think provides an excellent example of what ET contact 767 00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:19.559 is truly like, not through the lens of fear, not through hYP hypnotic 768 00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:24.800 regression, but what is actually happening, because her story very much echoes what 769 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:29.679 I have, you know, took thirty five years to figure out. And 770 00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.360 along comes Dolly and she's like, well, here here you go. I'm 771 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:39.000 like, oh, thank god. You know, honest, I'm glad that 772 00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:43.079 we met when we did. I mean, I kind of wish it would 773 00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:45.360 have happened sooner, but I'm not sure I would have been prepared to, 774 00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:50.159 you know, really wrap my head around her story. But yeah, I 775 00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:53.039 really encourage people to take a look at it. I think we'll answer a 776 00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:58.880 lot of your questions and will provide comfort to those who are having these experiences. 777 00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:02.159 Well, I think it says a lot about your personality, the energy 778 01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:07.840 you give off that you know you're the person she felt comfortable with you know 779 01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:12.239 that to tell such a life altering story too, and that that means a 780 01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:16.599 lot. That that really says so much about the book, her story and 781 01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:22.519 how you were chosen to tell that story. So to me, that's yeah, 782 01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:24.840 and it just makes the book more special. It's not just this is 783 01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:30.960 a fantastic topic, but you know, the reason it's being told is fantastic 784 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.840 itself, and that has a lot of meaning. That that little short part 785 01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:37.800 of the introduction meant so much reading it. So I've tried so hard to 786 01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:43.360 just be truthful, let people speak for themselves. No, I'm not pushing 787 01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.000 the agenda of what I believe about this phenomen It's not about that at all. 788 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:52.480 It's about giving people a platform to share their own experiences. Well, 789 01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:55.400 for those who have been listening, you can get his new book, Symmetry, 790 01:00:55.519 --> 01:01:00.800 a True UFO Adventure on Amazon or any other on line book retailer. 791 01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:05.400 It's by Preston Dennett. You can check him out online. I believe you've 792 01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:09.880 read your own website that's rights weavely dot com. Okay, And if you 793 01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:13.880 can look, he's got an impressive list of books. I have three out 794 01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:16.280 and I think I looked at your list, I'm like, oh gosh, 795 01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:22.800 I gotta catch up here. But but now just fascinating and again accessible. 796 01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:28.679 Like I said, you know a lot of off authors could not have tackled 797 01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:31.519 this subject like you did. Like I swear you were sitting next to me, 798 01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:36.639 reading with me, and that I appreciate because it made the story come 799 01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:39.119 to life. That wasn't just on the page anymore. I was hearing you. 800 01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:43.760 I was hearing Dolly without having ever met her, like picturing this is 801 01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:45.880 what was going on. So you know, I tip my hat to you 802 01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:50.719 because you know how this field can be very difficult to write about, and 803 01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:54.039 some do it well and others do it you know, not so well. 804 01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:59.199 So I appreciate when it's so well done. So thank you and thank you 805 01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:01.719 for coming on to y Dolly, Thank you for coming out. I am 806 01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:06.599 sure we will have both of you back. Fascinating topic. I gotta finish 807 01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:12.000 the book tonight or tomorrow, and hopefully next month Linda Zimmerman will be joining 808 01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:16.599 us again with her back healthy, back in the driver's seat. To those 809 01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:21.119 of listening at home, whether you're listening in the Hudson Valley or beyond, 810 01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:27.039 thank you for joining us on Michael Warden saying goodnight from UFO Headquarters on Hudson 811 01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:37.880 River Radio dot Com. Hudson River Radio dot com a favorite among shut ins and dogs