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Wow, Wow, you gotta worry
about you know, what's up everybody?

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It is Tuesday, May twenty first, twenty and twenty. Well, welcome

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to the Only show about Spartan Dogs, hosted by Spartan Dogs. This is

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Jason Strayhorn my co host. Hey,

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man, he just fell off the
screen for a minute, but that's all

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us from McKinney, Texas. We
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Hawaii, and man, we got
atl Georgia in the house. You know

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what I mean. I mean a
hold on, is that a rub of

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Steve? A rub of Steve's in
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Steve? What's good with you?
You know? That's that's that's outstanding.

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We all over the world. Number
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right now. We got lets go
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the house. Okay, back in
Austin after a beautiful weekend in Detroit in

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two one six is definitely have mister
Foster down there in Cleveland is the city

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where we come from. So run
run, man, guys. There's a

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special day today and we have we
gotta always call out birthdays, and we

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have them. Okay, And today's
birthday for Chuck Bradley. Happy birthday,

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Chuck Brandley. There he is right
there. You know. That's the corner

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back, Chuck Charles Brandley out of
Venice, Florida. It's his birthday today.

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I hope he's enjoying his time today
and getting ready to get back into

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that work, getting that gym,
Chuck, were waiting for you, brother?

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All right, all right, now
do we have swerve back? I

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think I think I hear him.
Oh there there it goes. Come on,

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swear. What's up? Man?
And the glasses getting away? Technology?

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Technology straight technology, man. I
gotta go back to school, man.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
gotta get you. You gotta get

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you, gotta get you. And
I'm home by myself. So something went

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wrong this. I ain't touching nothing
else on this computer, man, And

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I don't know what I'm doing.
Battle Creek, Penfield? What's Battle Creek?

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Penfield in the house. I don't
know Penfield. I know where battle

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the Creek? I know Battle Creek. What's happening? Yeah? I know

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Creek too, swear. We talked
about at L. George's in the house.

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Don is from at L. What's
up with the a? Hey stay

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down at L? Shouted man?
You know de Troy got what up?

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Though? New Orleans got edam mm
hm, ATL got what up? Shouted

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what it got? What's uping like? But we gotta have the gold teeth

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man, you got life and go
for Miami. Save It made me take

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mine's eyes if I see him now, punch him in his faith. He

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made you take him out. It's
a long story about that man. He

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told me to take about it.
I took about mad That's what happened.

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Man. We ain't got no dad
in your life. Man, You know

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that. Who can I go to? You know what I mean? Yeah,

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that's true. I hear what you're
saying with that, you know.

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Yeah, yeah, Trevor's already in
rare form already. Man, it just

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just getting started. He saying,
Happy birthdays. Stay away from the portal,

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chop and you know Michael, Michael
Beard a Beard. You know that

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that's a good dude. Man,
it's a good Christian dude. Man.

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I met him through Facebook. I
guess we met when I was playing.

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I see somebody said it's Cedric's friend
Michael Bart Barry Bike videos. Tell Mike,

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I say, what's up? And
during the show, Man, that's

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a good Christian dude. Man.
Love it back from Raleigh, Okay,

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JJ and Christian. Hey, we
always love them guys. Man, I

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see my baby here, miss d
I can't wait to get on the bus.

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Baby, I gotta get on the
bus. Were coming to get on

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the bus. And you know who
else on that bus, man, that's

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your boy Obi. Man, he's
doing this thing so ob ozon Barrassment MSU

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Men's tennis singles. He advanced to
the second round and today, man,

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he did it even bigger today.
Man, he punches tickets to the round

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of sixteen. Ob is doing his
thing for the Green and White with the

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racket. Oh man. You know
they had that situation with the Gulf going

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on this weekend, right, and
so it kind of distracted me away from

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watching OB. But I got the
chance to see the final of o B.

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You see how you finished, like
MJ like this, that's my guy.

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But wait that work, get that
feet work with him. Tray Ob

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gonna be a mother, Yes,
Ozon, Yes, what's up? I

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mean we had I thought we had
some video for him because today, I

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mean, he closed it out against
that boy from Stanford. And you know

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how hard it is to beat Stanford
in tennis, because that's like all they

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do over there besides running the rock
as your son does. They better feeding

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the ball if you want to win. Put said in Hey we had I

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don't know we had a video or
not, but man, hey swear you

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know we got one of our old
teammates on him. Man, We're gonna

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get to him in the moment.
Man. But like, this is the

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one thing that we have to talk
about. Is something new that the MSU

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Athletic Department is the one and this
is the Spartan Iron Event. I think

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we have a video loaded for that. Have you ever wanted to know what

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it feels like to compete as a
Spartan, Well, this is your chance,

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introducing Spartan Iron eight stations to test
your strength, speed, agility and

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power. Free wims will be held
in the Greg and Don Williams indoor facility,

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while the championship rounds will be held
in the Spartan Stadium. See if

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you have what it takes to compete
like a Spartan. The winners of each

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group will be crowned Spartan Iron Champions. Oh why I sign up at twenty

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five and up? I think you
qualify. Man. First of all,

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I'm definitely gonna beat her. You
know, I don't care about Oh,

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she's a girl, let a win. I'm trying to get a big grey.

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I'm definitely gonna beat her in that
Bowlhead dude, who's my teammate,

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I'm definitely gonna beat him too,
because he wear basketball. Now he probably

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done got sought. Lorenzo Guess.
When when Lorenzo Guess came in as a

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freshman boy, he was like,
Lebron, he can play football, he

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can play basketball. I was like, whoa, what we got us one?

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Yeah, he was that man coming
out way down to play one sport

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by you school. We can't do
it like that. And it's only a

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few guys that can do multiple I
mean, I don't know if women do

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it as well. People that can
do multiple sports at the collegiate level and

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beyond. It's special. But you
know he is still doing it now.

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He's still training kids on how to
get to where he was at and beyond.

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So you know, hats off to
them, man, the people that

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are gonna be doing that. Spartan
Iron is a it's a new event aims

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to unify the Spartan community through thrilling
competition in Spartan stadium. But you know,

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look, they're gonna be in the
Greg and Don Williams football indoor practice

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facility and we used to call it
the weed swear. I don't know so.

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And then the championship round's gonna be
in the stadium with everybody that's that's

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that's what's up. Man. That's
a great event. Man. I wish

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I can I can be there to
see that, but I'm thinking I'm gonna

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put my name in the hat and
participate in it. You know what I

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mean? How many pulled hamstrings do
you think will be going on at that

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event? Oh? Man? It
depends sraight. If it's if it's if

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it's if it's twenty people, and
say twenty people out of seven of them

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is thirty five and over those seven
ain't gonna make it. Not even Steve

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with the tight medium shirt. Steve's
man, he ain't gonna make it neither.

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He out in the ruber man,
you know, he he, I

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know he got all type of stories
he over there. I bet if he's

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in a was straight. He did
not pack a T shirt? What shirtless?

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If he do got it's a small
tank time, real small when he

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should be wearing a two eggs.
If you want to follow Steve on his

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uh Twitter slash x, he's all
over social media and he's showing pictures of

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what the sights are over there.
And I saw he had like Michigan State.

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He found Spartan helmet over there in
the ruper, which is rare.

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He saw he found us. He
said, we worldwide. Baby. So

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I want to see some videos.
Fare. I want to see this tennis

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video, Meca, I WoT.
I want you to see my man backhand

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that he got. Man watch his
back hand. Oh we just got the

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ending killing. You missed the set
before that where he had the backhand.

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But then that was him. That
was an ace. Game over. He

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came over for ob kiss the baby, ob baby lying man. So this

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is the question everybody wants to know
right now is which MSU logo is best,

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because we got a few of them, so I think we got a

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picture of her. You don't have
a graphic ready for the ms U logo.

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You got the Spartan helmet, you
got the block S, and you

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also have the gruff sparty. Which
one of those do you like the best?

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Sword Man, I'm gonna keep it
with the S man. You either

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gotta go with the S of the
Spartan and two at the top, that

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bottom one that's cartoon. I'm not
going for that one. But that new

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generation, I bet they'll pick that
one. Keep it with the I like

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to ask, keep that S on
that on that I got it right here

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straight, Keep on that hey,
you know what I gotta go. I

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love it S because it's staying for
swerve and and stand for straight in my

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you know. But that right there, you got you gotta go. And

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Slipper says, all of them,
all of them. If you do the

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one behind you, that's worldwide.
People see that and they know you know

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what I'm saying, just like,
yeah, but not the bottom. I

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know we're in a new generation.
We wear a little tight jeans and and

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all that type of stuff. But
nah, let's not. Let's keep it

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up top with those two. I
take either one of those two goes trever

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again. I like gruff, I
know, purlose like block ass saying likes

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to Spartan logo. Lynn Lynn says, what's she saying? Love them all?

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Love them all, love them all? Yeah, Linn, I love

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them all. I love them No, I love the top two the class,

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So I like them all. But
s has to be top. That's

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bear you boy and bear Mike.
But now look at this picture for a

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minute. Now look at number one. Look at that ass right there.

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First of all, he looked good, he got good, try sells he's

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been in the weight room. Now
look at the bottom one with the spot.

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It ain't up top. It just
looked like, come on, somebody

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playing around and the NAT's let's keep
those two right there, switch, let's

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keep it there. Do you think
that the gruff might make the opponent come

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harder against the Spartans? Is that
what you're saying? I mean, if

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I see that I'm one of those, I'll do that little roe bell smash

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swing thing he used to have and
just slapt out of whoever got that on

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their head. Man the block ass
is cold. Yeah, man, you

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ain't lying, man. You know. Look, look, we gotta talk

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about the preliminary sports. We gotta
get into some football talk. Man,

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we gotta talk about it with our
teammate. There's a whole lot going on

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in college football and college athletics overall. But before we do that, I

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swear we got to talk about something, man. We got to talk about

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charitable Gift America. Man, you
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Direct them to the spartan athletic programs
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That's what we are, simple as
that, simple man, man, What

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does the people got to do?
Got to make sure they hit that that

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yeah, hit that like and that
subscribe button. Please do that, but

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I'm a challenge, Trevor. I'm
gonna travelers d I'm gonna travel Mary,

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Matter of fact, I'm I'm on
one hundred more members. What what

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the members that right now? What
number we had straight? Like twentyth right

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now? Six something, twenty six, twenty something in that range. I

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don't know. It's it's moving every
day. Okay, everybody in the comment,

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do me a favor. Make sure
you get two to three people to

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sign up, and we're gonna see
if we got more numbers come Thursday.

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That's right, and we're gonna hold
everybody accountable. Right. Oh, we

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get off right now. You gotta
be pissed off because we gotta talk to

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our teammate and uh, excellent spartan
tight end. You're gonna hear about him

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in a moment after these message from
our friends over at our house and go

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these pancakes. Ocus rah, Well, let's still let's show us the night

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Oh that was so cute. The
little kids come in there this and and

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then the guy come out. When
he come out, he got the f

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fro with the town. I'm not
going to out hob with no town.

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I'm going to I Hop like Steve
with a tight shirt on, ready to

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eat with my fingers and all.
And I'm paying cake. You can't wait

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to come because right now, without
further adudes, well we got to bring

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on the guy man right now.
It's our tight end, not your tight

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end, not my tight end,
tight end. Third round draft pick of

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the New York Jets just had a
nine year NFL career. Chris Baker joins,

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it's sparted m mass shoes. Chris, hold on, hold on straight,

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hold on, hold on, I
know that, I know, I

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know that background. No, no, no, hold on, y'all listen

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to me. You ain't bring him
in right but now that you brought him

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in, let me take my take
this off, this over everybody. See

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when you got a background like that, ooh ooh, he living good because

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you know the background right there.
Then he got his own pawn. I

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ain't never been there, straight.
I can just tell you he got his

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own lady back there. You see
the palm tree, you know much,

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the poem tree, Coach Ray,
Oh yeah, man, it's to the

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point in Florida you can write them
off best tax. That's a tax,

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right. He got his own pawn. And then he got the command over

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top. And then on this side. I ain't never been there. That's

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where he got his grill, his
green egg. Oh, Chris Baker,

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he's doing it. He's dressed.
I said, the boy got his own

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money. He got his own money. It's a trigger. Come on,

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sir, I know I got me
some rich teammates. Boy. When you

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never hear rob bomb, I was
good to Chris, no doubt, no

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doubt about it. I sleep in
the cook what they called it the combat

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what's the ship that you lay on
and it's hooked up to the thing cook

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ham what dammit? See I can't
even pronounced. I know you got one

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of them. That's all I can
speak. He ain't no balance over there.

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Don't nobody coming over there. He's
got the type of neighbors. No,

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if he got it, if he
leave his door open, straight the

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neighbor come over and just close it
for him. But you remember, I'm

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from New York, so I ain't
never leaving the door open. No.

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Oh, man, I forgot you
from New York. So what's up?

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What part of New York? You're
from? Queens? Yeah? Yeah,

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everybody think I'm from Michigan. I'm
from Queens. I'm from Queen. I

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was born in house. Give me
one of the old Queens rapped real quick.

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Let's say I couldn't wrap though,
can't rap? Damn sure, can't

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rap? But he cam roon?
Yeah, yeah, who's Queens? Who's

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a rap? Nos? Like,
so fifty went to my my first high

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school I went to. Fifty cent
went to the same high school. I

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was born in South Side, Jamaica
or whatever, so fifty went there.

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But like, I mean, come
on, Queens, you can't. You

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gotta be kidding. You got some
of the best to ever come out on

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Queens. Nos, Come on,
man, you know I mean, see

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so Chris, who is your best? Who your best? Out of New

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York? If you say the wrong
name. I go through this. You

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know, you know, I came
up through the era. So like ninety

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two, ninety three, Biggie was
big. That's what you got to talk.

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Let's no, no, he's in
New York though, he's in New

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York. I know, I know, I know. Yeah. So like

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you know, Big obviously, Nas, obviously, Jay obviously later on.

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Obviously fifty came along later. I
mean, so, so you know you're

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gonna need Jay the kids out of
it. No, no, no,

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no, of course not. No, I'm saying you're talking about I mean

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New York. Listen, New York
is the mecca. That's where you know,

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that's where, that's where it all
started. But I will say this,

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the first time I heard Trick Daddy
was up at Michigan State. You

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know what I'm saying. You don't
know now, you know what I'm saying.

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Like, Herb was Herb was my
roommate my freshman year. So so

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soda, you're here for me.
First, Herb was my roommate. Man,

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he was my first roommate. So
you know what we got up.

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I started listening, I'm like,
okay that Florida, Okay, a little

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bit here and there or whatever.
But you know, so yeah, man,

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So you know, but the first
time I heard trick, I even

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heard the trick was up at Michigan
State. So you know now that that's

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when that came out that freshman year
coming up there, you know, do

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it like yeah, man, yeah, man, Man, Chris Man,

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it's good to see you, brother, man. Like, so talk to

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us a little bit about it,
man, Like, so you from New

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York, Yeah, you came out
of Salem when you at Michigan State.

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But what was your track coming from
New York to Michigan, Like, what

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was the connection? How that talked
to us? So? Yeah, So

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basically what happened was my parents they
were separated when I was young. They

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separated. I was in like first
grade, so I basically moved from I

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was living with my dad in New
York and I moved my in the middle

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of my sophomore year in high school, in tenth grade, I moved to

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Michigan. My mom that moved to
Michigan at the time. And that's how

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I ended up in Selene. And
my story as far as like my journey

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to get into Michigan State and getting
to the NFL and all that like eventually

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I write a book on it.
But long story short. My first game

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was my junior year of high school, after I got down to Salene or

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whatever and baseball before that, I
got hurt in the preseason, so I

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played only played three games as a
junior, and then I played my senior

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year and kind of went crazy my
senior year and that's how I ended up

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at State. But I only played
twelve career high school football games, so

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I messed twelve total. And on
top of that, like in New York,

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So like in New York, my
I have a November birthday, so

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I have a late birthday. But
I finished my high school career at sixteen

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as well. On top of all
that, so my first semester up at

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State in ninety seven, I was
seventeen years old the whole first semester.

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But so my story is like to
get to where I got, you know

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what I mean, to get up
there and everything is. Yeah. When

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you write that book about yeah man, yeah, and you know it makes

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sense that you was he was he
was young, sixteen seventeen, because I

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remember when you came in as a
freshman, right, big dude, kind

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of quiet, you know what,
I'm saying, So I think you came

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in with Kerr. No, Kurt
the he was you didn't know, but

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he was a senior that year,
my freshman year, he was a senior.

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Yeah, yeah, he had a
chance to constract Kerr. Kerr was

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a bad mother, you know what
I'm saying, especially his senior year.

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He knew it. He had he
had the hands, he had the size,

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he'll block whatever it is. And
so the thing about me was when

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I saw Chris, I'm like,
okay, Chris next. And Chris had

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it. Chris already had the size, he was already smart, whatever it

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was. So I just knew at
that position as a running back, once

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currently we got somebody to replace him, that's gonna be a dog. You

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know. That's how I was thinking
as a running back, because I'm thinking,

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I need you, I need some
dogs in front of me, you

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know what I'm saying. But what
I knew he was young because not that

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I tried to punk him, well, you know, it was little things

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like you know, like like Chris, grab them socks over there for me.

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You know what I mean, get
the socks with no problem, you

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know what I mean. They just
little little stuff you know, I let

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my shoulders out a little bit.
Yeah, that was my man. But

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one thing about it, Chris,
and I said this to a lot of

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guys that I wasn't able to say
back then because I didn't know because we're

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all chasing a dream, you know
what I mean, and I didn't know

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the to Yeah, we tapped each
other on the ass and we give each

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other dap, but I didn't know
about giving flowers back then as a young

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kid. You know what I'm saying. But I give you your flowers because

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I was able to watch you once
I left and then watch you in the

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pros and always say, you know
what that was, that's my tight end,

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you know what I mean. And
after that, man, I just

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saw you the other day with your
kids. Man, you on you out

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there fishing. I don't know if
you really caught those fishes you bought.

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Okay, Okay, tell me.
I don't give fuck by seeing the pictures

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look at him now, Yeah,
but I want to see the process of

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them catching that. I'm sorry,
you know what I'm saying. But if

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you call it, you called it
a lot of me. One thing I

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want to say to your brother,
I got so much respect for you and

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your journey and even now after afterwards
with you being a dad and me following

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you on Facebook and things like that, and you was a hell of a

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teammate. I wish this something I
knew back then that I could have said,

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but I didn't because I was I
was young. And then the Bible

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they tell us, you know,
as a keyd you act as a kid.

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You know. When I become a
man, I do man things.

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And now that I'm an apple man, she I'm able to tell you,

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brother, I got some much respect
for you, and I love what you're

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doing, and I love watching you
when you were with the Jets and everything,

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and you was the hell of a
dude. Man, I appreciate all

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your your blood, sweat and tears
to get me to be one of the

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best. I am the best running
back ever in Michigan state history, and

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I thank you. It'scray and all
the other guys. So I appreciate your

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brother. I appreciate that, man. I really do you know, like

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and listen, we you think you
grew, man, I'm telling you I've

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grown. And I've grown a lot
lately over like the last like five to

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seven years, like as far as
just growing into like understanding like a lot,

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I'll put it that way. And
so like I you know, I

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really appreciate that because, like you
know, when I got there, I

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looked up to y'all you know what
I mean. That's how it is,

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like you get so like I was
saying about my journey getting there, I

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did not expect to get to Michigan
State. Like when I truth be told,

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when I came down, I started
playing football and all that. I

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was just playing I like, you
know, like my like when I say

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my journey was different. I had
no intention of like, yeah, Okay,

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I'm gonna go to college. I'm
gonna do this. Like that was

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not you know, because that's not
coming from New York, coming from the

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city, that's not something you see. You know, you don't see like

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it's not a lot of football players
coming out of there and all that.

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You see basketball players things like that. But so like when I got there,

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man, I was just like excited
to be there. And another thing

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with you you were talking about Curt
how he had it and everything like that.

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The other thing is too in high
school, I played receiver, so

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I wasn't blocking nobody, you know
what I'm saying like that, that was

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my learning code going from outside out
there. You know, I was touring

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in thirty five pounds receiver in high
school to going down there and mixing it

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up with you know, everybody we
had out there, Robert and everybody else

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who came through the underwood or all. You know what I mean. Like

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that was like my learning code curve
that year. And I also got hurt

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like that my freshman year as well. But just watching those guys, watching

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y'all, you know what I'm saying, Watching how y'all became. You know,

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like watching how y'all did everything,
like the work, it took,

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the dedication, because truth be told, I didn't learn that in high school.

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I was just better than everybody,
just off natural ability, you know

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what I'm saying. Like again,
like I said, I played twelve games,

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but I like set school records in
my senior year and all that,

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and that was just off natural talent. When I got up there, I

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got around coach many, I got
around y'all, just like to see how

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it went and how it's supposed to
go, you know what I'm saying.

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That's what built me into who I
became. And then I tried to pass

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that down the line. You know
what I'm saying, because you know it's

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I mean, y'all know what it
is. Y'all know what it is to

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go through that program and to like
to make it, you know, like

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to become a part of it,
and then your responsibility that you have.

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So you know, that was like
the biggest name for me. So like

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I always try I always try to
represent that, and I always try to

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represent that when I was there in
the league. You can ask any of

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my teammates I ever played with,
they always seen something. It was always

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something on Michigan State. When it
came to me, he was betting on

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it or we it didn't matter what
was going on. I was in New

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England in two thousand and nine.
I'm beting with Joey Galloway on the Ohio

410
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.920
State Michigan take game. You know
what I'm saying. All that, like

411
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:12.559
like it never stops, you know
what I'm saying. So like it's once

412
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:15.559
it's in you, as in you
when you're a dog, You're a dog,

413
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:21.039
you know what I'm saying. So
damn right, Yeah, that's why

414
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.359
I'm trying to tell them young dudes
that it went over and down the street.

415
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:29.640
Once you're a dog, you stay
a dog and it needs something to

416
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.680
you. No, you don't take
your ads down the street, no doubt,

417
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:34.640
no doubt, no matter, no
matter what the situation. But you

418
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.680
know, listen, the thing at
the end of the day, we're in

419
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.440
a totally new era. We're in
a totally new day and age. So

420
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:45.640
again, you don't get that.
You don't get that, you don't get

421
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:51.200
that to clean that until you truly
are that, So you know what I

422
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.240
mean, and then truth be told, that really gets bestowed upon you.

423
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:57.079
That's not something that you get to
really truly clean for yourself. So you

424
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.200
know, I mean, it's a
different day and age, but it is

425
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.359
what it is. Hey, uh, just just watching those pictures, you

426
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.920
don't think you should go back down
to the load. You're gonna keep that

427
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:15.039
fro me So you can't hate on
because he can. Yeah. So so

428
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:17.440
that you got all that money,
you can do what you want to do.

429
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:21.519
But I'm just you got pumped.
You got pumped too on right now,

430
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:23.319
I don't know what's on the other
side. Now look now, now

431
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:27.000
it's the hair is twofold. I'm
gonna I'll tell you about it first of

432
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.559
all I had. I hadn't grown
my hair since I was in high school,

433
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.119
since I came down from New York
truly, right, I always stay

434
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:36.920
with a low cut. So so
my thirty years and like obviously we had

435
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:38.880
the pandemic, so we was in
the pandemic. Nobody's going to the you

436
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.960
know or whatever. So I just
obviously I let my hair grow and I

437
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.279
just kind of like started to connect
with it. Man, And like so

438
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.160
now now now like it's the connection
with that. But like I'm real,

439
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:52.519
I'm real big in the nature now, you know what I'm saying. So

440
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.519
like if you can't, I'm like
real big into growing my own food.

441
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.519
Growing said, if you come by
here, you're gonna see some mango trees.

442
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.839
You're gonna be like, yo,
Like I got stuff you ain't never

443
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:05.759
seen before. You got kind of
greens, bro, I got the biggest

444
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:13.319
colla greens you've ever seen. I
took you over right now, I'll take

445
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:17.160
you. But yeah, so I
like to say, like, but it's

446
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:20.559
also like my hair has become like
kind of like my connection. Like when

447
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.559
I'm outside, I feel like that
connection with the you know, the earth,

448
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:25.920
like with the sun, like we're
all that you know what I'm saying.

449
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.960
So it's not just yeah, you
know what I mean you you connected

450
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:31.839
with the earth, with the earth, I mean the earth, the earth,

451
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:39.559
the earth, the stuff, fish, all that. I can't make

452
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:50.519
that get down there all that.
So yeah, colors and making mine no

453
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:52.759
double truth be told, like I
mean like that that, like I learned

454
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.200
a lot. And then also I
also went back and finished my degree as

455
00:32:55.240 --> 00:33:00.720
well, and so like that kind
of I finished I walked in December twenty

456
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:06.519
twenty one, and but just getting
back into school and like getting that that

457
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.880
focus and that studying and all that. Like once I got my degree and

458
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:12.599
all that stuff like that, then
I've kind of like taken that and going

459
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.640
forward with that with like with food
and and and and like just like all

460
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.240
the natural stuff that's on the earth
that's for us and everything like that.

461
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.599
So like like I said, I've
grown a lot over like the last five

462
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.400
seven years or whatever. So that's
what's up, man, that's big.

463
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.519
That's that's what's up. I can't
wait to get back in that backyard.

464
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.319
I'm telling you. You know what
I mean, I got my cigar,

465
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:39.880
but I know you got your and
all that done and where you had the

466
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:45.720
neck bones done them. I bring
them from the store, from the from

467
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:58.279
the y'all both leave that pork alone. Man, better get you man.

468
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.720
I'm trying to help you. Man, trying to help Chris. You can't

469
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.559
help me. I eat the ass
of a pig. I'm sorry, brother,

470
00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:12.199
I love you you, my man, fifty grand I'm gonna eat me

471
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.719
a port chop sandwich. I won't
give him up with you say I'm trying

472
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.280
trying to help you off. Man. No, no, ain't no help.

473
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.000
Ain't no help, ain't no.
But that's where we go the line.

474
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:28.559
You know what I mean? My
port chop salmer before I get to

475
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:30.960
your house. That's all I'm listening. It's not religious, it's just health

476
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:34.360
wise. Man, It's just it's
this whole yeah, yeah, you know

477
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.440
what I'm saying. That's all right, right, right, somebody here,

478
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:43.639
don't eat the swing. Y'all gonna
say what you want to say. I

479
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:47.280
grew up on it so that I
I did too. I did too,

480
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.679
Chris. I'm not knocking it.
I mean that what you rich people do?

481
00:34:55.400 --> 00:35:00.559
You growing your food? You doing
now? I'm still going to the

482
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:07.559
coast. Don't getting we I feel
okay, all right, all right,

483
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:12.360
all right, hey, hey there's
some graduation pictures right there. Yeah,

484
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.519
yeah, that was big man.
That was big to come back and get

485
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.760
that twenty one. You know,
So what does it mean for you to

486
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.480
be able to go back and get
that degree after spending not nine years in

487
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:28.360
the NFL? Man going back get
your finisher degree at So I always intended

488
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.960
on going back to get my degree. And like I mean, like when

489
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.679
I left school, I left with
one hundred and nine credits. It wasn't

490
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:36.719
like I was that fall, you
know, like but like my senior year,

491
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:40.000
I got laser focused on the NFL, and so it was always my

492
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.599
intention. But obviously I'm playing,
and you know, I'm growing, and

493
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.519
you know, then I get married, have started family and all that stuff

494
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:50.280
like that. So then everything is
just kind of like then I then I

495
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.679
retire, and then I decided to
settle down here in Florida. I moved

496
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.119
once I retired. I stayed in
New York for a year and then I

497
00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:00.159
came down to I came on down
to Florida and I've been down here every

498
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:04.119
since. I've been having here twelve
years now. And so basically, I

499
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:07.679
like, I just I kind of
was just kind of finding my groove and

500
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:12.119
kind of figuring out what I wanted
to do. And then I was like,

501
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.519
you know, it's time to go
back to school. And so that's

502
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:16.960
basically what ended up happening. I
ended up just going back and during the

503
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:21.199
pandemic fortunately, so I didn't actually
have to be up in ease lands and

504
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:23.159
and everything else. And it just
kind of went from there. Man.

505
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.639
And but it was something I was
told my mom. I was, you

506
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:28.559
know, I told I would go
back and get my degree, But I

507
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.320
was for myself more than anything.
Like I put all that work in,

508
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:34.119
you know, and to put all
that time and working and all that effort

509
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.679
to leave it sure, you know. So it was great the fact that

510
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:38.760
my kids got to see it and
they got to see me doing the work.

511
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.519
They would see me, you know, studying and doing all the stuff

512
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.159
and going through it and you know, just to put that out, put

513
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:46.320
that there for them at the end
at the end of the day, it

514
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:49.960
was like a you know, it's
a nice exclamation point on my time at

515
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.280
Michigan State. Hey, Chris,
listen, man, you man, Like

516
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.360
I said, I got love for
you, and you learn I'm gonna steal

517
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.800
eat my poor I don't care what
you say. I don't care. I'm

518
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:05.519
gonna tell you this, man,
and you, my man, I'm telling

519
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:07.719
we went the war together, we
shared the locker room together. Man.

520
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:19.079
I'm so glad your kids took out
your wife. Yeah yeah, listen,

521
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:22.320
man, look they got the good. They got what they needed from me,

522
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:23.920
and they got what they needed from
her. I'll put it. I'm

523
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:28.119
glad they got. They look nah
and you pretty. I mean you hands

524
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.840
some I ain't. I ain't yet
I should say you have, but boy,

525
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:36.760
I'm so glad they look like they
mama ain't, no doubt about it.

526
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.400
And they both look like her.
So I'm all good with that.

527
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.519
I'm all good with that. But
no, I'm proud of you too.

528
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.320
Man. It feels good for me
too to go back, man. But

529
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.880
mine was at mine was at Alabama, and and to walk across that stage

530
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.800
because this time I really had to
do the work. That was the difference.

531
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.320
But my kid was too young.
They probably went to care anyway because

532
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:59.840
we already they already, like,
you know, I showed them videos they

533
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:05.199
oh dad, look at that.
Yeah, you know what I mean.

534
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:07.719
But it felt so good to walk
across that straight stage, man, and

535
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:10.320
they hit them, people cheer.
I'm like, they ain't even I ain't

536
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:14.320
think nobody knew me. You know
how you walk across and you got all

537
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.800
these people, I'm like, I'm
not from Alabama. When they mentioned my

538
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.199
name and people screaming, I'm like, oh shit, yeah, yeah,

539
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.679
yeah, yeah. It's so good
man. But once again, I'm glad

540
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:30.360
your kids look like they mom man, you know, swear like they talk

541
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.519
about he's gonna bring up his his
graduate you So, so, Chris,

542
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.559
talk about right now what's going on? Because you kind of hinted to it,

543
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:43.079
like it's a lot of different world
right now. It's a big difference

544
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.320
in what we played in versus what
guys are going through right now. So

545
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:52.079
you got the transfer portal, right
and the nil all those things, And

546
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.840
you know, you're a guy who
spent nine years in the NFL. What

547
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:59.119
is it to you when you look
at where things are now? If you

548
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:02.559
can give advice to the players today, what kind of advice would you give

549
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.760
them? Oh? Man, it's
tough to give them advice right now.

550
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.880
Man. To be honest with you, because I was actually just talking about

551
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:16.239
this earlier. Guys can make wood
in the portal or in their four to

552
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:21.679
five years in college by using the
portal, right with what a lot of

553
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:27.800
guys can make in their career in
the NFL. So it's it's tough because

554
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.960
it's like you, I can only
imagine if I was in that position.

555
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.760
If I'm happy, I'm starting,
I'm getting, you know, getting paid

556
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.639
or whatever, I'm not going anywhere. But it's tough to tell a kid

557
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:39.679
like that's a four or five star
recruit that's sitting on the bench that can

558
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.320
go and get, you know,
possibly secure their own future, their family's

559
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:46.840
future at nineteen or twenty years old, that they shouldn't leave. You get

560
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:51.360
what I'm saying. So like it's
really a gift in the curse, you

561
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.480
know, to be honest, it
makes it tougher to like go somewhere and

562
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:58.039
be there for four or five years
and develop as a player and get to

563
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:01.559
the NFL. But it's so much
money that they're giving these guys now.

564
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:06.440
So I mean what I would say, as a player, it really just

565
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:10.880
depends on what your focus is.
Do you want to go somewhere. Are

566
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:15.559
you going to the school for the
school for the for the program for the

567
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.559
you know, for the the atmosphere
and all that stuff, or are you

568
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.519
going for the money and and and
you know, and also like if you

569
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:24.960
are you going for do you plan
on going there to graduate and try and

570
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:30.440
springboard into another career outside of football
whatever. So it's so many variables right

571
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.079
now where it becomes hard to say, well you should do this or do

572
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:39.000
that. It's really dependent on your
situation, you know. I mean listen,

573
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:42.679
being out here in Florida, I
go to a lot of things.

574
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:44.599
I see a lot of guys,
you know, and I see like the

575
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:47.360
situations that people are coming from.
You got to get it how you live,

576
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:51.239
you know what I'm saying. Sometimes, So it's it's really it is

577
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:57.519
really dependent on your situation and what
you're looking to accomplish. And my the

578
00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:59.559
way I would tell guys, you
know, you got to do it in

579
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:05.960
your best interest now in these times
to me man, because you know,

580
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:09.199
there's a whole lot of things.
It's very loaded when you think about what

581
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:19.119
guys are happening to decide in college
football nowadays. Today, there's a big

582
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.400
story that broke. It had nothing
to do with Michigan State, but it

583
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:27.719
does have something to do with college
football specifically, we're talking about the former

584
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:38.039
Miami commit slash Florida commit slash Arizona
state quarterback now at Georgia Schools Florida because

585
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:45.599
he was promised was at thirteen million
dollars to go from the nine million dollars

586
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.320
at Miami to go to Florida,
and Florida flat out renigged on them,

587
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:55.880
didn't pay him a time or whatever. You know, what are your thoughts

588
00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:00.079
on something like that? Because you
just talked about, Hey, you know

589
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:01.400
there's a lot of money out there, you can secure your future, you

590
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.440
know, but what like Swerve,
I'm gonna ask you, Swerve, what

591
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:09.639
do you think about Jaden rashot it? This is the quarterback that I think

592
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:14.079
they just had this contract details there. You know, what, what do

593
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:16.239
you think about that? Five hundred
thousand up front, two fifty a month

594
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:21.400
as a freshman, two ninety one, sixty sixty as a sophomore, three

595
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:27.159
seventy five a month as a junior? What what do you think about that?

596
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.559
And then the fact that you know, schools offer that and then pulled

597
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:44.079
it away. See you see my
head straight. First of all, you

598
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:46.199
know, if you look at the
draft right the draft, the slaughter.

599
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:51.840
Right, So if you know,
if you're going number five in the draft,

600
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:53.639
you know you're gonna sign a four
year deer or such and such a

601
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:59.400
money as already slotted, right,
So you mean to tell me you're gonna

602
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.760
pay me three three hundred and seventy
five thousand dollars a month, right,

603
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.760
And when I leave high school,
those teachers are telling me we got to

604
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:10.960
go to college, the ejectives to
go to college to get a degree so

605
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.239
you can get a better job.
So now you're giving me three hundred and

606
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.679
seventy five thousand a month. I
ain't passed now, of course yet,

607
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:27.639
not just that I make more than
the teacher that's teaching me. What what?

608
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.800
What what do you want me to
do? Not just then on top

609
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.599
of that, you do damn that
making more than your position coach? Yeah,

610
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.239
oh damn that. Wait wait wait
three seventy five a month. You

611
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.599
are making more in your position,
coach. So my thing is who I

612
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:52.119
got to listen to? So so
so so so, babe. You know,

613
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.039
when you see those kind of numbers
right there being thrown out there,

614
00:43:55.559 --> 00:44:00.639
how is a player? You know
when you see a you know, I

615
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.719
know this is Miami Florida. But
a kid like Jadeen Manga. This is

616
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.480
a guy who was at Michigan State. His brother. I don't know what

617
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:13.280
happened with his brother. He goes
into the portal, but then Jayden into

618
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:19.440
going to Michigan. If if it
was money, I don't We don't know.

619
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.519
We don't know what the situation was. But like, how do you

620
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.360
how do you navigate through these waters
right now? Because I know there's a

621
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:30.719
lot of heat coming down on players
because they're going to schools that people like

622
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:35.400
us, we say, ain't a
way we should go to. No,

623
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.280
damn Michigan down the road. But
like you know, you see what's what's

624
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.880
going on here? What's your thoughts
on that? Yeah, I mean,

625
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.719
listen, dude, with us,
there was first of all, we couldn't

626
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:49.840
even transfer within if we transferred,
we had to sit out and you couldn't

627
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.719
transfer within the conference and all that
stuff like that. So we even if

628
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.039
we had but even if we had
that option, that's an option that we

629
00:44:55.039 --> 00:45:01.440
would never take. But my only
thing is we really can't even it's a

630
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:05.039
different landscape, you know what I'm
saying, So like would it being a

631
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.840
different landscape, Yeah, we can
be critical of the kid and everything like

632
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:09.760
that, but at the end of
the day, he can do it,

633
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.519
and you know, it's just so
like I look at it, like it's

634
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.599
just it's do business as business business
is being done in this day and age.

635
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.599
That's not something I would ever do, obviously, that's something that none

636
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:27.199
of us would even consider. But
at the end of the day, they're

637
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.840
allowed to do it, and it
you know, like that's just what it

638
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:32.039
is. That's just the way the
landscape is right now. So you got

639
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:37.480
to kind of just because we also
did sign somebody from from there as well.

640
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.199
You know, like it's just that's
just what it is now. Like

641
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:44.199
I mean, it's it's crazy,
but I mean who else, who the

642
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.320
hell thought UCLA and USC would be
in the big ten. So you know

643
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.639
what I'm saying, like, this
is just the landscape that we're in right

644
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.320
now. But right here, Beer
Ranking Show, right, it's part of

645
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:58.280
growing up. I make more than
my manager at work, but I still

646
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:02.000
got to be professional. The amount
of money you make shouldn't justify you being

647
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:07.840
an asshole. But check this out, Bill Ranking Show. You haven't coached

648
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:12.599
high school football. You haven't coached
these kids. That's coming from these,

649
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:17.159
from these projects, from these one
parent home, from the kids that's raising

650
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:22.280
theirself. Some of these are street
kids. You get that kid that much

651
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:27.639
out of money, right that it
is no respect, it's no it's no

652
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.239
discipline, it's no structure. That's
why, if anything I would, I

653
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:37.280
would give kids work, work to
earn. That's the thing I'm talking about.

654
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.639
You. I coached football. I
coach football with these four and five

655
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:45.519
star kids, and that's all on
they mind. It's not on their mind

656
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:47.400
that hey, I'm gonna go to
college, I'm gonna get bigger and stronger.

657
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:51.199
I'm gonna go there and work my
ass off and then boom boom going

658
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.719
to the league. Shit, I'm
already getting league money. You see.

659
00:46:55.760 --> 00:47:00.559
Let's take women basketball. Them girls
took a pay, had to go to

660
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.400
the w NBA. Yep, you
see what I'm saying. So at the

661
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:08.039
end of the day, what I'm
saying is if you gonna pay me more

662
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:13.159
money than my professor, and you
won't you want me to do my homework,

663
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:17.840
Shit, I ain't doing I ain't
doing it. I'm sorry, call

664
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.239
me roll mode or whatever. What
what I'm doing? I got three five?

665
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.360
I mean, this is like The
money they're getting is life changing money.

666
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:31.639
It's life I mean, like you
can literally set yourself up for life

667
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:36.400
coming out of college, like you
don't even have to go. I mean,

668
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:40.599
so it's my biggest thing is with
all these kids. I mean,

669
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:45.000
I know it's not happening, but
my biggest thing is they need to be

670
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:49.880
able to make that money last because
it's I mean, like you said,

671
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.280
you got kids coming out of the
projects, You got kids coming I mean

672
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:55.000
even kids that are coming out of
the gated communities. You give them a

673
00:47:55.039 --> 00:48:00.119
certain amount of money and they don't
have any responsibility. They're gonna blow all

674
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.760
that money. So that's the one
thing that I hope that they can try

675
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:06.400
and get on, not only say
get under control, because I don't know

676
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:08.400
what's what the state of it is, but I already know just being in

677
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:13.760
the NFL locker room and everything else. They really need to like guide these

678
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:15.239
kids, and they really has to
start in high school because they're getting that

679
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.719
money. As soon as they walk
in the door for visits, they're getting

680
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:22.000
this type of money. So they
really need to start training these kids because

681
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:23.960
the type of money they're getting could
set them up for life. They don't

682
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:27.960
you know, like they can set
up their entire life or they can ruin

683
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:37.880
their life too. It's funny Merlone
said about the uh, the financial literacy

684
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.320
part that need to be set up, because you know what I found out.

685
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.440
Former kids of mine that I that
I keep in contact with, called

686
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:49.679
me and say, cool, they
tell me I got to pay eight thousand

687
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.639
dollars of taxes. They ain't tell
me that. When I came in,

688
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:58.519
I say, yeah, you got
to pay that new people's giving you.

689
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:02.320
New people gave you eighteen thousand dollars
a month. You gotta pay taxes on

690
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:05.400
that. Brother, Man, they
ain't tell me that. When I came

691
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.679
here, man, hoping I'm up
for the transfer, I said, Okay,

692
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:09.719
wherever you transfer and they give you
money, you're gonna have to pay

693
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:14.079
taxes there too. Brother, You
know what I mean? But like he

694
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:19.400
said, the eighteen he was getting, she he was spending it. He

695
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:23.159
sending his mother five, he sending
his homeboard. Two. He going out

696
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:27.480
buying the c with the CDs.
Kristen, do you what it is?

697
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.719
The loan along the CD's shoes.
You know they going to get the hell

698
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:35.440
cats and all this type of stuff
and krips are not telling them this.

699
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.280
You know what I'm saying. He
called me. I said, first of

700
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.639
all, I'm gonna put you on
the phone with somebody else to help you

701
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:45.320
out. But I can't help you. I said, They're gonna give you

702
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:47.480
another eighteen next month, take the
aid out of that, and pay your

703
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:52.079
taxes. That's all I can tell
you. The thing about it is,

704
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:57.239
this is what happens in NFL locker
rooms. Yeah, to them four years

705
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.599
earlier or five years earlier, as
teen year old kids, what do you

706
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:04.199
think is, who do you think
they're gonna do? They're gonna go month

707
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.239
to month and spend that money because
they don't understand that. Like, like

708
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:10.840
I said, even the kids that
are coming out of places that where they

709
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:14.920
have, you would think they have
some kind of financial literacy, they're not.

710
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:16.760
They're just getting money. And so
like when they get that type of

711
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:20.599
money, if you don't help them
out, if they're not trained, that

712
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:23.079
money is going to be gone and
they're gonna be again. It happens in

713
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:27.039
the NFL, happens in the NBA, happens in all these different spots.

714
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:29.840
So what do you think is gonna
happen when you're doing it with college kids.

715
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:34.360
They have no kind of they have
no chance if we don't get them

716
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.039
right. So you know what I
told my kids, I said, when

717
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:44.559
you get your money, just send
it to me. Hey, Chris,

718
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.400
let me ask you this man,
Well, what was your best memories of

719
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:53.239
best game in college and in the
pros? College? Man? And you

720
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:58.159
missed it because you know, but
my favorite memory was the Citus ball.

721
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.280
That was my favorite Like that,
I mean because just that year, that

722
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:05.440
year was just that was saving that
just left he just you know and everything,

723
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.679
and you know, that was the
year that well we finally put it

724
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.559
together, you know, like we
finally put it together, and you know,

725
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.760
just I mean that that straight was
you in that year? No,

726
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:20.440
you left the year two the year
before, right, yeah, yeah,

727
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:22.639
no, that was that was the
year because as a matter of fact,

728
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.639
if I remember, right, yeah, it was the year before. That's

729
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:28.599
when we beat Ohio State when they
were number one, and like no,

730
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:34.480
no, no, we beat Yeah. But that's what I'm saying though,

731
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:37.840
like that but we were just starting, like we were just figuring it out

732
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:39.079
then, you know what I'm saying, Like that's when it was like okay,

733
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:42.800
there goes I remember ninety seven,
Like I said, I read shirt.

734
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.000
In ninety seven, ninety eight we
kind of scuffled and we didn't go

735
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.760
to the bowgo you know, we
didn't even make the bowl game. And

736
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:52.239
then in ninety nine is like when
everything just was there, you know what

737
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:53.920
I'm saying, and like we put
it together and it was like so that

738
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:58.119
like the culmination of that in the
bowl game, after saving that left and

739
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.440
all that. So that was like
just the we you know, we're playing

740
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:05.880
Florida in in the middle in Florida
and all the all that just all that

741
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:07.920
that came together and just getting that
done. So that was my favorite.

742
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.360
I mean the Michigan games they were
great too, don't get me wrong,

743
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:15.199
Like the old one Michigan game that
was great. But that was just you

744
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:20.440
know, the Bowl game was a
culmination. And then the pros. Oh

745
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:27.480
man, man, I mean that's
a tough one, man like, because

746
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:30.679
I mean I had had some you
know, some pretty big big hides in

747
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:34.960
the Pros and things like that.
I mean, I can't really pick one,

748
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:36.559
to be honest with you, you
know what I mean, Like I

749
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:40.599
had you know, I'm gonna answer
this question, so so you you you

750
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:45.440
played a long time with the New
York Jacks and he went on to New

751
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:50.039
England. So you got a chance
to flavor Tom Brady from school down the

752
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.960
road. What was it like?
You know, so everybody knows of him

753
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:54.920
as being the goat. He just
got roasted a couple of weeks ago,

754
00:52:55.039 --> 00:53:00.559
maybe like two weeks ago, ye
on Netflix. What was it like playing

755
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:05.760
with a guy who has that prestige
that he has right now? So you

756
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:12.079
gotta remember, I played with Brady
and O nine, So he wasn't this

757
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:15.159
at the time. He had won
three titles at the time. But early

758
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:21.119
on in Brady's career he was not. He was he was like barely a

759
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:22.199
pro bowler at the time, you
know, like I mean, I want

760
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:24.719
he wasn't like a game manager per
se, but he was. He was

761
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:28.639
not even a pro Bowl. He
was just he would perform like crazy in

762
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:31.159
the playoffs and like whatever. So
he wasn't this. He was highly regarded,

763
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:34.519
but he wasn't. Oh he's the
gold, you know what I'm saying.

764
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:39.119
So all have to say. We
talked Michigan, Michigan State, back

765
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:42.159
and forth. You know what I'm
saying. Same like I said, I

766
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:45.599
don't like we you know, we
talked about it, We talked about the

767
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:47.760
game in O one and everything.
Tom was super cool, like he was

768
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:51.519
like to say, Tom was one
of the guys. He was one of

769
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:54.079
the guys. I mean, I
was on plenty of teams where guys thought

770
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:57.760
they were whatever, this, this, and that. Tom was one of

771
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.400
the guys. Like he did.
He was no different than anybody else in

772
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:02.480
the locker room. So that was
the That was the biggest thing I can

773
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:06.400
say about him. He was He
was not He was not like what you

774
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:09.079
would what you would have fought with
his you know, with his accomplishment.

775
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:15.039
I'll put it that way. That's
what's up. That's what's up. Mhm

776
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:22.960
right, oh yeah, sir.
So now, Chris, you know,

777
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:24.960
before we get you out of here, man, we definitely appreciate you coming

778
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:30.199
on, man, because the background
already went from the little light that was

779
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:34.519
back there because I can't even see
them, uh five thousand dollars palm trees

780
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.920
anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know how it is. Everything

781
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:40.159
else f in the light up now
is on a timer. I know how

782
00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:43.920
you rich people do. I got
a lot of rich friends something like that.

783
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.480
Yeah yeah, yeah, So now
before we get you out of here.

784
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:49.920
Brother? Man? What what?
What? What? What do Chris

785
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:54.400
do now? So basically, man, I'm like when I retired, I'm

786
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:59.480
fully I was fully retired. I
retired back and after the My last year

787
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:04.000
was in ce So the year that
was Peak How's first year out there,

788
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.960
of the year that Marshawn had that
big run in the playoffs or whatever,

789
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.400
that was my last year. So
I was out there that year and after

790
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:15.239
that I retired. So the way
my career ended, I fractured my hip.

791
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:17.679
So the week before that we played
we had to play the Rams to

792
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:21.719
get into the playoffs. It was
winner take you know, winners and losers

793
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:23.119
out. So we got in the
playoffs at seven and nine. I don't

794
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:28.320
know if you remember that. So
I was on that team. So anyway,

795
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:30.559
we won that game. So I
fractured my hip in the second quarter.

796
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:32.719
I didn't know my hip was fractured. I played the rest of the

797
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:39.400
game. I played the whole game
whatever, man, listen. I wish

798
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:42.480
I'd have known it at the time
because out of the SAT mands down.

799
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.639
But I finished the game or whatever. But that was basically the in for

800
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:50.960
me. So then after that I
went back to New York retired and since

801
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:52.079
then I've been fully retired. Man, Like I stayed in New York for

802
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.119
a year. I did a lot
of fish in that year. Like in

803
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:57.440
New York, you know, I'm
always on the water. So my crib,

804
00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:00.159
I had the boat in the backyard. I'd go out fish every day

805
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.039
and all that stuff. I did
that for a little bit, and I

806
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:05.719
just got tired of being in cold
weather. Man to truth be told,

807
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:08.119
And I always wanted to get a
spot down in Florida every time, you

808
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:09.840
know, I was with the Jets, I was with the Patriots. We

809
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:14.599
come down here in December, it's
not eighty five degrees out and I'm going

810
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.039
back up in this ten degrees outside. So we ended up coming down here

811
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:22.039
in twenty twelve. And my son
started kindergarten here. He's he's in eleventh

812
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:25.039
grade. He's going to his her
senior year next year. Wow. My

813
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:29.639
daughter she was once she turned one
down here. She was born in New

814
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:35.480
York. Who came down And I
mean basically I dedicate myself to to them,

815
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.599
you know, like I focus on
whatever that they need me for or

816
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.679
whatever it is. You know.
My wife, she works, she works

817
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:44.960
at the school with them and everything. So like I just been to that.

818
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:50.559
Yeah, but so so what happened
was though, like I said,

819
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:52.239
during the pandemic is kind of when
like the light bulbs started turning on that

820
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.800
I need to like, you know, And after I finished my degree,

821
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:59.480
I started I started like I needed
something else to like fiel the time,

822
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:00.599
you know what I mean. And
that's when, like I said, that's

823
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:04.880
when I kind of got passionate about
learning how to grow my own food,

824
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:07.840
learning how to like you know,
just all the different stuff. So that's

825
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.320
what I really focus on now.
Man, Like I'm like super passionate about

826
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:15.119
food, medicinal growing, you know, all that type of stuff. And

827
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:17.760
down in Florida where we're at,
all that stuff grows down here. So

828
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:22.320
like that's I mean, I'm always
all I'm doing is studying how to grow

829
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:24.800
this, how to graft this,
how to do whatever. So that's that's

830
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:30.480
what feels my day. That and
my kids in the family. Man,

831
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:34.079
gotta love it. Gotta love it
man, and Chris, you know,

832
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:38.800
seeing what you've been able to accomplish
with your you know, football career and

833
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:44.400
more importantly your family is what everybody
wants to see, you know, that's

834
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:46.920
what we love as Spartans. I
mean, Swerve loves it. He loves

835
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:51.800
the palm trees back then, the
colleague greens that you're growing in your yard,

836
00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:55.039
and you know, the recruits.
The guys is coming after us,

837
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.000
they're watching too, And you know, we really appreciate you coming on here

838
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:05.920
man and been sharing a little bit
of your career with all of Spartan nation.

839
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:07.639
Brother, don't be a strange man. When do you get back?

840
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:12.320
Do you get back up to some
games? Ever? So, so that's

841
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:15.599
the thing, Like I'm real settled
into being in Florida, so I really,

842
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:20.679
I mean, I'm just I very
rarely go back up to New York.

843
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:22.280
So the last last time I've been
up to these lansing was for the

844
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:27.599
for the graduation, and before that
I came back for I forgot what game

845
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.400
I came back. I came back. Every time I come back for homecoming,

846
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.920
it's always in in like October,
and it's always cold and raining,

847
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.239
like it's like thirty five degrees in
raining every time I come back. So

848
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:39.800
but I do plan on getting back
up. I'm not sure If'm gonna get

849
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:43.320
up this year, but I come
back here and there you know what I

850
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:45.480
mean, Like I kind of pop
in because my mom still lives up there

851
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:47.960
in Michigan, so I go and
see her and everything like that. But

852
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:51.480
I'm not really trying to be up
there in the winter time, like I'm

853
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:55.000
just they do have games in September, by the way, just just just

854
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:58.159
for the record, so that that's
what I'm saying. Like, the only

855
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:00.480
way I'm gonna really get up there
is if it's something like that. But

856
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:01.599
I did go to I went to
hard rock. I went to the one

857
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:05.719
down here when we came down here, and I represent it, you know

858
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.239
what I'm saying. So but yeah, man, yeah, yeah, we

859
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:12.920
gotta swear, we gotta get him
up for a game and in the something

860
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:16.360
in the early or the late fall
or was the early fall? Late Yeah,

861
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:20.679
once we go down past fifty,
I'm done. It's a rap.

862
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:22.679
Yeah, And you know you already
know because you I mean, I used

863
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:24.159
to make fun of it. I
used to make fun of her. I

864
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:28.000
used to make fun of everybody from
down here because nobody wanted to go to

865
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.000
class when it was when it hit
thirty degrees, when it hit twenty degrees,

866
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:36.280
ain't no long ago didn't go didn't
go. So that's what I'm saying.

867
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:38.320
For me now, I'm kind of
like, I get it. I

868
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:42.760
get it because every every day I
look up, it's I mean, it's

869
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:47.719
eighty five ninety degrees every single day. So yeah, yeah, it's got

870
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:51.880
some old sitting. Oh yeah this
year. But man, you know,

871
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:55.440
we really appreciate you coming on the
show Man and here's that. Here's that

872
00:59:55.679 --> 01:00:00.719
all editor. I had to go
make sure it went through. You're gonna

873
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:02.360
see me run through. That's here. I come right there, I go,

874
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:12.719
old Bobby Williams. Yeah. Yeah. Also, actually I got to

875
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:16.000
go back with one more thing.
One other game that was my he goes

876
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:19.960
up there with the Citters Bowl.
Was that upset over Ohio State? Because

877
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:22.199
that one that was that was also
one of them that goes up there too.

878
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:28.719
That that's one in one name and
y'all both there for that one too,

879
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.440
was there for that one? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful

880
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:36.880
coming out. That was my coming
out game there, man, because that

881
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:38.199
was like before that I was kind
of like and then you know, that

882
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:42.559
was like my big, my big
first game early in my career. So

883
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:47.239
yeah, yeah, yes, sir
Chris Man, don't be a stranger.

884
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:51.880
We love it, man. That
that was an awesome uh time spending with

885
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:59.599
you, learning about New York Queens, Celeen to east Land scene, New

886
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:02.039
York and beyond. Brother, down
there with the palm trees in Florida?

887
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:05.840
Right now? What city? What
city are you in in Florida? I'm

888
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:15.400
in parking. I'm in parking,
man. I tell them, when you

889
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:20.079
when you, when you, when
you building, you making your own food

890
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:24.960
and stuff that comes with it.
The I mean that my cigarette. I

891
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:30.000
can't wait to get down there,
Chris. Where are you at? You

892
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:32.960
not down here? I just moved
to Atlanta, but I'm back and forth.

893
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:37.079
Don't worry about it. Don't worry
about it. I got down there,

894
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:43.360
okay, door, But and do
me a favor, though. The

895
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:45.840
next time y'all catch those fish,
make so somebody recorded, because I want

896
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:49.400
to believe it all. Oh yeah, no doubt. And I done took

897
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:51.480
a lot of pictures with fish.
No, I don't do that. I

898
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:55.920
got caught him, and I ain't
catch not now one. I ain't never

899
01:01:55.960 --> 01:02:00.079
doing that. And look at that
fish bigger than you, Chris. It

900
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:04.920
never happened it that looked like some
good eating right there, bro Man.

901
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.039
Look Snapperoper. They don't get no
better than that. No, it does

902
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:13.519
not. No, that's not Yeah. Hold on, can you from New

903
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:19.960
York you put mustard on your fish? Listen, I'm from New York,

904
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.119
but my mom is from Mississippi,
so I got it. I'm suthering when

905
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:25.360
it comes to it. You know
what I'm saying, like, yeah,

906
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.440
you did even fish with the head
on it. When I go to the

907
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:37.480
Islands, I knew it was somebody
it one day that we were just dog

908
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:42.639
skin. I just I knew it
was somebody. I'm coming to Parkview.

909
01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:46.320
My mom is from Mississippi, so
I'm getting Just let him know. I

910
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:50.000
come in peace. I ain't got
nothing. They got to pull me over.

911
01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:52.960
I know. You know. I
ain't Tray Bond none of that.

912
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.639
I ain't got no hoody on.
I'm gonna take this off everything I want

913
01:02:55.800 --> 01:03:00.599
to see Chris Baker shoot. Yeah, yeah, it ain't too many us

914
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:04.360
over there. That wasn't living good. But that's not true. That's not

915
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.480
true. I'm coming. I'm coming
true we over here, trust me.

916
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:14.639
Yeah, Hey, Chris, appreciate
your brother, no doubt anytime, anytime,

917
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:21.039
all right, for sure, Chris
thinking man man man tighten. Hey

918
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:24.039
man, that was a great interview. Swerve and j Chris Man, Chris

919
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:27.960
doing good for himself. Hey man, we got to give a shot to

920
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.159
baseball too. I know we felled
short straight, but they had a hell

921
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:36.239
of a year Man on the show. You know, he had a few

922
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:38.119
home runs, you know, but
we fell short of the other dance.

923
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:42.440
But you know that, right,
it's always next ship, you know.

924
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:46.079
Yeah, baseball is always in our
heart. They closed our hearts because you

925
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:51.079
know, you know, football players
are baseball players. Baseball players and football

926
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:54.239
and basketball, so we all were
all in this thing together in hockey too.

927
01:03:54.880 --> 01:04:00.239
Oh man. I heard the story
of how Kirk Gibson played baseball just

928
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:06.199
this last week at this Atlanta MSU
golf party. His roommate was a picture

929
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:12.440
he was walking by and he yelled. He was a junior. He yelled

930
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:14.920
and said, hey, can I
get a Can I get a couple of

931
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:16.920
hits off the picture? Whatever the
picture thing was. They're like, yeah,

932
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:19.800
come on, we're gonna give you
ten. And out of the ten

933
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:25.760
pictures his roommate through, he hit
eight of them out of that park.

934
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:30.800
What that coach called down on the
phone saying, who is that ding up,

935
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:32.360
damn ball? Who is that?
Boom boom? And the guy was

936
01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:34.480
like the coach like, oh,
I'm sorry. You know then I'm gonna

937
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:38.280
get him out of here right now. Don't get him out, get him

938
01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:41.639
a uniform. We need him on
our team. He played his junior year.

939
01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:45.400
Yeah, that's an awesome story right
there. I come believe that story,

940
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:48.039
man, I know, I mean
there's a lot of stories we can't

941
01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:53.320
believe. But man, that was
a great interview by you and Chris Baker

942
01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:57.880
and Swerve, Red Cuffs and all
were about to close this thing out.

943
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:00.159
We got some stuff going on we
got to talk about. Man, there's

944
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.960
some there's a big thing coming up. It's a big thing looming on Thursday.

945
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:10.199
So it's a n c a A
and what the landscape is gonna be

946
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:14.760
for college athletics. So we're gonna
see we're gonna talk about that on Thursday

947
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:18.719
night show. So swerve hold on, let me clear this up. The

948
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:24.400
mustard hot sauce go together on the
fry fish. I'm letting y'all know that.

949
01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:28.559
Trust me. You know what I'm
saying. Somebody's saying, must you

950
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:30.800
put it that? I think,
yeah, you put a little musty.

951
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:32.440
Put a little hot sauce on there. You know what I mean, You

952
01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.280
rubbing around boom boom, and you
cut it on up and you eat it.

953
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:38.800
You put it good, a slice
of bread. We gotta we gotta

954
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:41.679
show, we gotta you gotta show. Bring it, bring it in sho.

955
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:44.800
You know they don't know. You
can't talk about it. Be about

956
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:48.320
it next time, all right,
swave you know, But Cedric GIRVD,

957
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:51.440
I'm Jason stre This is part of
M s U. Everybody, have a

958
01:05:51.480 --> 01:06:06.199
good night, God bless you and
go bring go White. Yeah, Lon

959
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:09.920
lond I got you, I got
you, I got you.

