WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:14.000 This is ww Superstar Drew McIntire and you're listening to the WWE podcast show, 2 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:26.000 the one that everybody wants me to step three sixth day and says, God, 3 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:33.039 just rust your last this is my you're gonna like manage men? Hey, 4 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:36.759 what's going on? Guys? And welcome back to WWE Retro on the 5 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:43.479 WWE Podcast on this Friday, April twenty ninth. There were actually twenty eight 6 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:48.799 go ahead of myself there as we are creeping towards Backlash, but more importantly, 7 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:54.439 it feels like we are now looking past Backlash and towards Night of Champions 8 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:59.439 in Saudi Arabia, which will be the one thousand day celebration of Roman Reigns 9 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:03.040 as the World Champion. And you know, I've never been a fan of 10 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:06.560 this. I'm sure if you've listened to me and Matt long enough, you 11 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:11.920 know that we're not really fans of how a lot of times WWE will do 12 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:17.959 things to bypass the one pay per view to just look on to the next. 13 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:21.879 It feels that's what's happening here, and Backlash truly is a B level 14 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:25.000 pay per view. The best match of the night, the presumable, the 15 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:29.200 presumed the main event will be a non title match between Brock Lesner and Cody 16 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:34.439 Rhodes, and then you have the two women's championships being defended, you have 17 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:38.799 the US title being defended, the six man tag match between the Bloodline, 18 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:42.079 Kevin Ow and Sammy Saint Matt Riddle. So I guess it will be a 19 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:45.319 good pay per view. It's just is a bit unfortunate that we are looking 20 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:48.799 past this pay per view, or at least I am. And one of 21 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:53.159 the reasons why we are looking past this pay per view is simple. The 22 00:01:53.239 --> 00:02:00.519 new World Heavyweight Championship now presumably and leave. I'm a bit behind on the 23 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:04.480 current product. I'll be honest with you, guys have about one or two 24 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:07.840 shows behind. So my next show that I have to watch is SmackDown from 25 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:14.439 a week ago. But from everything I understand is that the World Heavyweight title 26 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:20.840 will be handed out at the Night of champions pay per view, which is 27 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:27.120 really cool in a lot of ways. I think that it's pretty awesome because 28 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:30.360 as someone who grew up in the world in the ruthless Aggression era of the 29 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:36.639 World Heavyweight title was a prominent figure and a prominent championship for much of those 30 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:38.840 years, and you can make the case that there was a period where the 31 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:44.479 World Heavyweight Title felt more significant than the WWE Championship, specifically when it was 32 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.319 over on Monday Night Raw, when it main evented wrestling at twenty when it 33 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:53.360 main evented wrestling yet twenty one, with Triple H walking in as champion both 34 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:58.560 times and walking out not as champion both times. You know, once Benwah 35 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.800 wins it, the other time Batista wins it. They're bringing this back, 36 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:07.319 and I hope that they will continue the lineage of the former World Heavyweight Title, 37 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:12.479 it's predecessor that was retired almost ten years ago. How crazy is that 38 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:19.400 that they unified the World title and the WWE Championship almost ten years ago in 39 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:23.800 a ladder match between Randy Jordan and John Cena, And now presumably they're going 40 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:30.479 to unify the WWE and Universal Championships into one belt, and just like that, 41 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:34.879 we are going to have another world title evaporating into Finnair and the Universal. 42 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:39.000 And I think that's something that is very interesting about all this, because 43 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:43.319 you know, Matt and I spoke about it, I've seen people speak about 44 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:49.360 it online. Is that the presumed favorite to win the first ever World Heavyweight 45 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:53.360 Championship or bring back as brought back as the new world title is Cody Rhodes, 46 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.479 and in a lot of ways he deserves that. You know, everyone 47 00:03:55.479 --> 00:04:00.439 knows I'm not a Cody Rhodes fan, but I could be objective and I 48 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.080 think that he would be a perfect guy to carry that World championship. But 49 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:10.360 the problem you get into here when you keep introducing new world titles is that 50 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:15.879 it dilutes the meaning of them. And is this the world Is this the 51 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:20.160 title that his dad never won? Or are we being more specific about is 52 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:25.399 it Dusty Rhodes, or I mean, is it the WWE title? The 53 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:29.399 title that Dusty Rhodes never won? And now the fact that the Universal title 54 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:31.759 is going to be merged with the WWE, and I know they always start 55 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:36.759 by saying the undisputed WWE Universal's Champion, but after a while, it will 56 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:42.079 always become just the WWE Champion again. It always has it, always will. 57 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:45.680 We saw it when it merged with the WCW title, and when we 58 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:50.480 saw it merge with the World Heavyweight Championship ten years ago. They'll carry the 59 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:54.360 dual name for a bit of time, and then it will always go back 60 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:59.120 to just being known as the WWE Championship. So now, when the Universal 61 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:06.399 Title is inevitably and presumably imminently retired, are the people who won the Universal 62 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:12.319 Championship going to be considered as former world champions? You know? Is Kevin 63 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:16.000 Owens still going to be considered as a onetime world champion? Is Finn Balor 64 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:20.519 to be considered as a one time world champion? You know? Brock Lessner, 65 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:26.759 I believe his longest title reign was as a Universal champion. Is he 66 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:29.959 going to be able to hold on to that? You know? Roman reign 67 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:34.560 started this thousand day run as the Universal Champion. Bron Stroman is another guy 68 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:40.399 who has only one world title run under his belt, and it was as 69 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:45.839 the Universal Champion. Both times Goldberg won it, he was the Universal Champion. 70 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.800 So I mean, I know WWE, I know they're going to keep 71 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:56.519 the Universal title even when it is officially retired under the umbrella of a world 72 00:05:56.639 --> 00:06:01.040 champion. I just find it interesting that now this title was you know, 73 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:06.480 creative thin air in twenty sixteen, and seven years later it's going to be 74 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:11.879 pretty much retired and just will ride off into the sunset. But I mean, 75 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:14.759 all in all, I'm happy that Triple H has bringing back the World 76 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:18.040 heavyweight title. Still undecided if I'd like to look, but I do think 77 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:23.519 that it's going to be a better change of pays. And we just spoke 78 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:30.160 about briefly about who could be the next or the first ever world champion or 79 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:32.240 I don't know it's it the next or the first, because is this the 80 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:36.360 a new world title or are they just bringing it back? So the next, 81 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:40.480 the first, whatever you want to call it, could be Cody Rhodes. 82 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:46.160 But another candidate, and arguably the best candidate beyond Cody Rhodes, it's 83 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:50.319 seth Rawlins, a guy who has not held the world title coincidentally the Universal 84 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:57.040 in almost four years. It's been since October of twenty fourteen since seth Rawlins 85 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:02.680 has held a world championship when he lost the Universal title to Bray Wyatt coincidentally 86 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:11.000 in Saudi Arabia. So could he be the next guy? Which brings us 87 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:15.480 back to his first ever run as a world champion, back when he won 88 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:24.079 the title at WrestleMania thirty one, when he interjected himself in the World Heavyweight 89 00:07:24.160 --> 00:08:03.480 Championship match between Roman Reigns and brock Lester or this will never be a rumple 90 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:13.240 torn? What thats? Why the way? Sup then turning to touching the 91 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:18.120 unstairs and calls on Kurts on the way from me the coming of the world. 92 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:30.199 Have you one champions? Cost the future is now Superlas taking a race. 93 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:37.919 Sand's gonna finish him taking no chances here at all costown the air, 94 00:08:39.879 --> 00:09:26.600 crashpare concepts, sep you kiddy. So if you guys haven't figured it out, 95 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:31.879 today we were talking about seth rawlins first run as a w WWE World 96 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:37.399 Champion, and in my mind, Wrestling at thirty one was the best WrestleMania 97 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:43.080 of the last two decades, probably maybe fifteen years. I think fifteen years 98 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:48.360 is a safer like blanket term, but I mean that's not to say that 99 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:50.960 there hasn't been good ones. This year was really good. Wrestling at thirty 100 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:56.720 eight was really good. But Wrestling at thirty one's main event by seth Rollns 101 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.279 cashing in and in a lot of ways saving the main event a main event 102 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:03.799 that was heavily rejected, although I do think it over delivered in a lot 103 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:09.559 of ways, was something that was very memorable. And seth Rawlins was a 104 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:13.480 guy who had clearly been on the ascent for almost a full calendar year, 105 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:18.559 breaks away from the Shield, becomes the money in the Bank briefcase holder, 106 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:26.279 and he goes into WrestleMania in a very heated program with Randy Orton, and 107 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:30.480 they're the second match on the card, and Randy Orton scores that victory. 108 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:35.679 And I remember when seth Rawlins was entering the ring and entering the stadium. 109 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:39.000 When he got to the ring, he got up on the second turnbuckle and 110 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.639 he lifted up his briefcase and I was just like, Yeah, he's Cashian 111 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:46.279 tonight. And it evidently it seemed like I didn't really know what was up 112 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.080 because he only found out, I think, a bit before this match even 113 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:54.120 went underway. I think it really was a last minute decision by WWE, 114 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.799 and I do think it was probably the best decision that they could have made. 115 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:05.879 This was an absolutely fantastic booking decision on the part of WWE. So 116 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:13.559 what happens here is that he continues his program with Randy Orton, they face 117 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:18.759 off against each other at extreme Rules the following pay per view, and he 118 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:24.360 ultimately retains its title. Beyond that, he goes to Payback and he has 119 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:30.960 a fatal four way match against Randy Orton, Roman Reins, and Dean Ambrose 120 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:37.080 for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. He once again retains that and one of 121 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:41.039 the underlying storylines here is that he was having tensions with Kane, that Kane 122 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:45.320 was showing him tough love. If he had lost the fatal four way match 123 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:50.840 at Payback, he would have been Kane would have lost his title as Director 124 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:54.320 of Operations. It ultimately ended up along the way of Kine coming back with 125 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:58.360 the mask and when set it all and tried to break his ankle with a 126 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:03.879 stomp to the ankle when it was in between the chair, and that was 127 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:09.600 another cool wrinkle to kind of see Kane's transformation back into Demon Kane after he 128 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:15.200 had been the corporate stewed for what felt like at this point like a year 129 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:16.840 and a half. It really felt like a year and a half that Kane 130 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:20.399 had been the director of Operations and kind of a lackey in a lot of 131 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:24.360 ways for the authority, a very good version of Kane. It really showed 132 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:30.639 Kane's depth in capabilities as a wrestler and as a performer. So even though 133 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:35.840 it probably wasn't mine or most pupil's favorite version of Kane. It really showed 134 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:41.240 how good of a good of an asset Kane was and he kind of was 135 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:46.960 mister everything for WWE for in a lot of ways. So a few months 136 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:52.039 go by and the authority obviously very proud of their chosen one. But it 137 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:58.240 gets to a point where the authority felt that seth Rawlins had to be ready 138 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:03.639 for the fine, you know and next task. If you want to know 139 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:11.679 what you have with a lump of coal, you stick it under immense pressure. 140 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.559 That pressure does one of two things. The pressure either causes it to 141 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:26.240 crumble and turn to dust and render it useless, or that pressure turns it 142 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:37.039 into the diamond that you always hoped it could be. Set. The question 143 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:43.919 now is do you crumble or do you become the diamond that we have infested 144 00:13:45.000 --> 00:14:16.200 in? Because Set, the pressure is on. M h oh, that's 145 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:24.919 a pressure. That's a pacy card. That is upsiding machine. I cannot 146 00:14:24.960 --> 00:15:58.879 believe. I sh what is your down and leads a bed but hold dust 147 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:23.879 end his chairmanship. He's to stare at a folds pressure. That was a 148 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:34.840 conversa Blache Lastner is, as he said, tell me world Anyway Championship Byway 149 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:42.120 Barking five first season. So Brock returns for the first time since being suspended 150 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:48.159 post WrestleMania thirty one when he went absolutely nuts, destroyed the announced booth h 151 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:53.960 F five Michael cole F five to cameraman, and sefty Man suspended him. 152 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:59.840 Now he's back a few short months later to try and regain the championship that 153 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.599 he had lost but was never pinned for a wrestling at thirty one. He 154 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:10.079 loses brock Lessner that is, at the hands of the of seth Rawlins, 155 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.759 but with the help of the Undertaker, the Undertaker returns and him and brock 156 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:18.599 Lesner kick up an old rivalry fifteen months after Brock had broken the streak and 157 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:26.559 it allows seth Rawlins to keep the title. This leads to SummerSlam in a 158 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:33.119 championship versus championship match seth Rawlins versus John Cena. John Cena, the then 159 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:38.480 United States Champion against seth Rawlins, the WWE World Heavyweight Champion, and this 160 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:42.599 seemed like a pretty big deal. They do not do title versus title matches 161 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:49.480 often, especially when it's mid card versus like a World championship, and you 162 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:56.559 know obviously the most important or the most prominent one in history is probably the 163 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:03.000 Ultimate Warrior versus the versus Hogan. At WrestleMania six, we're both the IC 164 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:06.480 and the w w E Championship were on the line. But it really is 165 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.000 a cool concept. It's something that you would figure that they would go back 166 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:12.759 to the well with more, although I do understand that they like to probably 167 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:17.960 keep those two tiers of competitors apart. But when you have an a young 168 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:22.039 up and comer like seth Rawlins as the world champion, and you have a 169 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:26.960 legacy star and one of the greatest of all times as the US champion, 170 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:32.039 you know, really holding down that mid card scene, it made sense why 171 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:37.359 they ultimately decided to go this route. It was just more the outcome that 172 00:18:37.599 --> 00:19:04.200 was shocking above all else. The stakes and see kicked down. Ros can't 173 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:08.359 believe it be he can't, but he's gonna be thinking about got to do 174 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:12.880 a more candidate Si, she don't see him. Here's what more any dore? 175 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:21.720 This is it with the stakes? Roll freaking guys call this tidy gus 176 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:33.680 so hard ships out and complete myself. He said he had seen who with 177 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:40.160 the Trump ship. He's got un on speed form said there's an imposing energy. 178 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:45.039 Came it out, don't he stuck down the emposing here she seeing the 179 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.119 delay to believe me at time one and if you're right, thing said, 180 00:19:48.279 --> 00:20:00.920 Ron realizes no wrong and then can't see is realizes it's called the title aside 181 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:10.079 of time to try to get another way. He isn't get this one up. 182 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.119 I never see it's just gotta chip. So I'm not saying control. 183 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:19.160 It's wild nose just the way les book see. It starts back in the 184 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:26.559 same room. Can he get had desperation, Oh my god, she had 185 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:32.599 that nose prepaired down searching me. Just a few weeks ago he fractured in 186 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:42.039 number of places well stood doing kind of stige and we took shing the prettire 187 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:47.759 you need help U there and remember still it to interdictions and wise I was 188 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:55.200 on Parely show and don't do this. You cannot get this because he sizes 189 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:59.640 you got business being in there knowing she won't trimmings you much. Get it 190 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:59.839 up? Y? Yeah, so you heard that right? Uh? John 191 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:07.559 One Stewart is the guy who costed John Cena the match and the ability to 192 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:14.440 say that he was the for the only WWE and US champion simultaneously. And 193 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:18.359 look, I mean, I get it, John Stewart host popular, but 194 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:26.000 my god, really they couldn't think of a better way to cap off one 195 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:30.720 of the more historic matches in WWE. And I'm not saying that in retrospect 196 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:33.400 that it was a historic match, but I mean, like, in theory, 197 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.839 it should have been build and thought of as a historic match, right 198 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:42.559 am? I off with that, Like, you're crowning the first ever US 199 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:48.319 and WWE world champion, And you know what, like I thought maybe John 200 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:51.000 Cena would get it, given where he was at in his career. You 201 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:53.960 know, you were about you You basically had another year and a half left 202 00:22:55.079 --> 00:23:00.559 of John Cena as a full time competitor in mid two thousand and fifteen. 203 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:04.880 So I thought, hey, maybe they'll give him like this really cool title 204 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:08.759 or the ability to say this and this and that. But they give it 205 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:11.680 to Rawlins, who was an up and comer, and I think that was 206 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.200 the right decision. I won't argue with that decision, but the fact that 207 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:19.960 they made John Cena get cost of this opportunity by John Stewart. And then 208 00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:26.160 the reasoning was is that he didn't want John Cena to tie Rick Flair's record 209 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:30.559 as world champion. It was just it was stupid. The reasoning was stupid. 210 00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:36.519 It really like put a dark cloud over an otherwise very good match and 211 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:41.359 an otherwise very well thought out main event. I think, you know, 212 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:45.000 this was a cool concept to really kind of put seth Rawlins it, or 213 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:48.640 separate seth Rawlins away from the rest. And I think that was something that 214 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:55.359 we really have to consider here, is that seth Rawlins is run as champion, 215 00:23:55.920 --> 00:24:00.640 as world champion, really is separated from the rest because he was also 216 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:07.160 the US Champion for a point in time. And this led to a celebration 217 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:14.079 the next night by the authority for seth Rawlins historic accomplishment, and it was 218 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:19.759 all to be culminated with the unveiling of a seth Rollins statue with both belts. 219 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:25.720 But when it was time to unveal the statue, it ended up being 220 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:37.359 just all but the opposite of what Rallins was expecting. True, let's be 221 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:45.119 the man. You know where this is going. You've got to beat the 222 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:51.480 man, and that is exactly what I did last night. Baby. So 223 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:56.039 when we un statue, as at that moment, just like you said, 224 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:04.119 Trip, I am no longer the future of WWE. I am the man. 225 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:14.759 And after I go on to manavate WrestleMania after WrestleMania, after WrestleMania, 226 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:21.680 this statue will stand when I am long retired, help when I am dead 227 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:30.960 and gone, this statue will live forever in the recognition of my Lacey Bruno, 228 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:52.720 San Martino, the Ultimate Warrior, Andre the Giant, and now set 229 00:25:53.160 --> 00:26:02.400 Rollin. It's fine, baby, I can't wait anymore. I can't wait 230 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:07.400 anymore, Brooklyn. Are you ready? No? No, no, no, 231 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:14.720 no, this one's for you, I said, Brooklyn. Ah you 232 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:25.480 read well, Let's do this, baby, because that sham is here. 233 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:52.640 Hell, oh my god, it's staging for broke by God. He's say, 234 00:26:52.680 --> 00:27:15.759 oh my god, can't stay get your staying thing, my friend Chis 235 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:26.000 and go see that my true staying around. He sat roll stay, stick 236 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:38.680 Is Wash goes Rose sticking sticking to the starting again. I can't go us 237 00:27:52.480 --> 00:28:26.960 in my yes, So Sting returns and with his sight set on the WWE 238 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:33.480 World Championship and the following pay per view was Night of Champions which would result 239 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:40.680 in Rawlins defending his ww Pardon me his WWE Championship against Sting and his US 240 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:44.799 title against John Cena and a rematch, he would retain the w w E 241 00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:49.880 Championship against Sting in the process severely injurig Sting and thought to have maybe ended 242 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:56.359 his career with a Botch buckle bomb and losing the US title to John Cena. 243 00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:02.359 He would then at the very next pay per view successfully defend the WWE 244 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:07.039 World Title against Kane in a Helen Cell match. King would lose his job 245 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.799 as director of Operations, and then just less than a short month later, 246 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.839 I believe at a house show seth Rawlins would injure himself. I believe it 247 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:21.960 was his knee at the time and have to relinquish the World Heavyweight Championship or 248 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.960 WWE Championship it held both names at that time, which in turn would result 249 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:32.920 in Roman Reigns winning it at the Survivors Series twenty fifteen. All in all, 250 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:40.160 seth rons run as WWE Champion in twenty fifteen was historic. I think 251 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.400 that, you know, in an era where there was no brand split, 252 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:48.960 he really carried both shows well. And I think that it's all the more 253 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.079 interesting because there's two things that really stand out about that run to me one, 254 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:56.799 he never lost that built he had to relinquish it due to injury, 255 00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.839 so we really never knew know where that title reign was going, where it 256 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:06.200 was going to culminate, how it was going to end. And he was 257 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:11.240 a double champion, which not a lot of current wrestlers can say. Obviously, 258 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:15.799 Roman Reigns could say that as he's a double world champion, but and 259 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:19.440 now a unified champion. But in terms of holding a mid card title, 260 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.200 that's very rare. That's a rarefied air that seth Rawlens was in, and 261 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:30.000 I don't think it's talked about enough just how much they invested into his twenty 262 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:36.640 fifteen run as WWE champion. And I think that we all are owed another 263 00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:38.960 run of Seth Rowlens as World heavyweight champion, because yes, we got his 264 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:44.559 run as Universal Champion for sure, and it was a decent run, although 265 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.359 his babyface character wore very stale after a couple of months in my opinion, 266 00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:55.319 but it was nowhere close to how successful and how good his WWE championship run 267 00:30:55.519 --> 00:31:00.559 was. And I think that this is maybe a golden opportunity to finally get 268 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:04.039 a world title back on Seth Rons and maybe have him carry his own brand, 269 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.039 But at the same time, do you want him on the same brand 270 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:14.440 as Roman Rains to potentially be one of the guys to end Roman Rains is 271 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.240 run as WWE Universal Champion. Amy, Guys, that's all I got for 272 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.799 you today. I hope you enjoyed seth Rons Run as WWE Champion. As 273 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.480 always, you can get me on Twitter at A to Marco twenty five. 274 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.359 You can get Matt on Twitter at Wrestling Underscore Audio, or you can email 275 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.559 him each and every week for the WWE podcast mail Bag. Amy, guys, 276 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.720 have a great weekend. 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