Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My
Canicuss. I'm Canaday. On today's episode, we have some sad news that
hit the Michigan market, or not just Michigan, I'd say around the whole
world has been big advocate us John Sinclair before music and poetry and so many
subcultures that we found out. We're going to dig into and try to pay
the respects we best we can. You know, it's unfortunately so easy.
It's happening week of Hashbash. I believe he was going to speak at it.
If I'm not mistake. He usually does. That's what I was saying,
is like I look forward to that poet, you know that poem and
I do too, and we actually, God, we're able to catch it.
That legacy last year where he performed, which was very cool. It's
like us and three four other people, but it was like very cool just
to be there. And last year in the rain he performed today, you
know, I remember actually got video of some of that on my phone.
That's what I was thinking of. That's like, so that's like sometimes when
I think a hash Bash, because he was such a pivotal because because of
his case it began, it's like it's hard, you know, it's so
he was already on my mind this week, so this is just it's just
crazy that it happened. Happened this week. Yeah, shocking. You actually
texted me when I was yesterday, So the episode dropped Wednesday, So yesterday,
April second is when it happened. Yes, absolutely, But we're gonna
dive more into that. We're gonna first kick it off with absolutely rest in
peace of my dude. We're going to kick it off with east Side Alchemy
review, and then we got Better Made Chips in Detroit, assuming a bunch
of brands here in Michigan. We got some news updates to go, and
then a couple of of out and then back and then we're gonna talk about
hash Bash because we'll hope we'll see you there. Yes, yeah, so
we'll be diving into that. And before we kick it off with the episode,
I want to give a shout out to our partners Old Score Organics right
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quality products, And Emerald has their kitchen now, so they're going to
be cooking up some new stuff as well too, So that's exciting. But
yeah, let's kick it off with this eat side of Alchemy review here,
groovy, let's do it, Bud. So you picked this up? Where'd
you grab this? You said it was a new discmo, Yeah, I
got it at Quality Roots, opened up right across from my work. Oh
interesting, so it's new new gotcha. Yeah. When I was there,
they were still going through a bunch of new practice. It literally just open.
So I think that's kind of where the mishap happened. They had they
had I was looking for with the Maddie Bee stackers clad because I thought I
saw I could be wrong, but I thought I saw it on ig that
was at this location. I know it goes other Quality Roots. Well,
yeah, and that's thing. It's kind of hard to tell, but like,
you know, if that's what you thought you saw. But I mean,
hey, you know, oh, so we're not trying to happen,
but that's true. I mean that's what we did last time. Anyways.
You know, we reviewed the Maddi Bee stuff anyways, Yeah, you brought
that up to me, so I actually feel I'm actually pretty happy that we're
reviewing a different weed. Yeah, we just happened to check out some more
maddy Bee clouds. We're intrigued because of the roots and different stuff. But
this race fuel, Uh, I feel like I've seen race fuel around.
I can't remember where, but I don't know if I've Yeah, we had
it, yeah somewhere, but this has grown by Pure Coast Veganics and then
process obviously by East Side Alchemy THHC. We got seventy three point five five
eight percent can't total caminoids or eighty eight point three one nine percent, and
terpenes is seven point zero four eighty five percent, which is sol amount of
turps. I do like it does tell you lineage on there too. I
mean I I put it in there. I didn't know where you got that
from. Oh, I see it's actually right on the I was actually shocked
when I saw that. Oh yeah, right on the print or like in
the on the tag. So that's cool, which is nice to see it's
actually on the branding itself. Cool as it's a little like container. I
feel like to help keep it cooler, you know. Me and Groovy love
seeing that stuff. I love seeing as much information as possible. I think
it just helps you as a consumer understand what you're consuming. Try to understand,
Hey, what strains worked for you? For you? I was about
to smell it packaging. Yeah, I like that the lineages there. I
like that they have terpenes. I wish I saw like whige breakdown on terpenes
a little bit more, or like flame anoids or like flavor of it code.
But that looks like the bad code, but they had I thought no.
So I mean it's definitely above average because it has definitely more than the
average. It's just missing a couple of things, but still definitely above average.
Like eight, nothing wrong with it? Eight eight and a half maybe
because I like that, you know, it comes in a dark container.
I'm at eight and a half because it at least got lineage, at least
tells me terps CBD, I mean not CBD, gives me the THHD and
everything and a gaming linea the lineage. I said that twice. It's probably
eight point five. The QR code doesn't go anywhere. I see why it's
called race field. Yeah, well we still got something. I've had race
field before, and it kind of had turps like this, like you could
kind of get it, but I couldn't get the smell. It's prevalent as
this. It's like og because that race feel think we had was like a
seid. I mean obviously it's two OG's cross man, it's got that like,
Yeah, it's organic. It's veganically grown, so organic as well to
the bud. So it's coming all organic too. So you can smell it
as you bring it by your nose. Oh that's fire. Then if you
don't have to put it up to your nose and you can smell it,
that's like when you get into it. Yeah, it's not. It's still
light when you do that though, but I mean it's still very good smelling.
So I mean definitely towards that like thirteen area, you know, above
average, very good stuff. Man. I would agree with you there all
I got. I like that, like you know what you what do you
think? So it's definitely got a gas rich like I was gonna say race
feel, but like gas diesel like that. That's what the smell is.
That's all you got pretty much, that's it, and that's why I like
it. I'm like, you know me, I used to love og,
so I have a feeling I'm gonna really like this taste. I'm excited to
try it, honestly, because I was looking for something that was some gas
gas and I got two different, two different strains. When I went one
of them, I think we had a little bit more citrus turps and I
was looking for something that had some gassy turps. And this this looks good.
The race field looks good. I'll be hit mine. Not the puff
cut. We got groovy hitting out of the glass pipe over the four fifty.
Oh you're doing low? Why'd you move? Valid question? Groovy?
I actually I don't know. I said four fifty, but I'm gonna go
four fifty. Usually go five hundred, and then you said that, I'm
like, oh shit, I usually do five five, but I'm gonna try
it on four to fifty. I don't know. I've I've been enjoying the
cool dabs when we do them at events and they hook them up and it's
chill. I just dude, it's just so much flavorful for me. For
me personally, I just love it and I don't get that burn on my
chest. And that's the one thing that I do hate is when I take
a dab way too hot. That shit just like hurts. You know,
it's just just not there for me. I didn't see consistency yet. Let
me see this. Yeah, I figured I'd let you kind of dig in
there and then's like wet, dude, it looks wet. It is wet,
but you can make it. You can't make a donut. That was
my curiosity. You can make dunks out of that. Actually, that's that's
my type. That's like some of my favorite when it's like that consistency.
Oh but so you know what's impressive about this is like usually when it's this,
they get that little bit of dry so you can get that maalubat,
but still it's actually almost feels like it is sticky to your hand. You
can see it, but then it still comes off. That's that's very good.
Yeah, that's really good. That's really good consistency? Is that a
ten? Mean pretty well almost a ten odd? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I'm like nine. No, I'm doing like nine and a
half. Man, that's nothing I can know. That's what I'm say.
Nine nine, nine and a half. For sure. It's close. I
thought you said, is this a ten? I'm like, yeah, it's
very close to it, because I mean, well that's the saying I really
I really feel like I'm just kind of nitpicking there. So yeah, I
mean, what do you want to hurt people that more? You're not going
to lose on consistency a little bit because it's gonna stick to your right,
It's gonna stick to you. Which that's what I'm saying, Like it might
maybe that sometimes you get the more flavorful dabs smell stuff, but sometimes this
is just as flavorful. It just doesn't smell as much because the wetter stuff.
I feel like it's because you know, that's all the that smell is
is just you losing a little bit. It was like it tops a little
bit more. Once we both dug in there a little bit, you might
be able to smell it a little bit less. Feel it's still smell it
feels like it opened up a little bit. I'm still gas. I don't
know. Maybe your stuffy cheers, dude, well with cheers. Yeah,
with this weather we've been having for the last couple of days, it's freaking
seventy and then it's cold. I said this last week. I got sick
literally after we recorded last week. I was sick for two days. I
probably saw that in the episode and dying the episode. Drewy's about to love
it, he thinks out, Yeah, nice rip, nice rip. I
actually think the taste comes out more in the like than the smell, which
is actually really really nice. In matches, it's got that dude always reminds
me of fucking a little bit of like that gassiness reminds me of putting an
oil and gas into long lobber equipment. To me, it's like almost if
I crossed a smoked a og in e eighty five. But I also I
really like that. Yeah, I like that a lot. You really can't
complain on that flame you. My buzz is like this is straight body buzz.
Yes it is, Yes, it is. I mean there may be
a little bit. I make sure you get a little in the head,
but for me, I feel the baby. I'm just getting that because I
just took a fat dab and I'm high right now. Mainly it's more of
a body relaxation, muscle relaxation I'm feeling. But before I get into effects
and strength. Flavor, Yeah, I think you said r I group it
pretty much matches. If anything. I thought the taste was so flavorful,
Like I was really impressed, where Like sometimes when you get those super flavorful
dads, usually it's like, whoa, I think this. It was almost
like the smell was underwhelming and it was still a very good smell. So
does that make sense? The smell is still a popped Yeah. So I'm
like at thirteen and a half probably on the flavor, dude, I might
be Yeah, you might be lean a little bit more. It's like your
favorite might That's what I want to say, is I really I think I'm
going thirteen thirteen and a half that's right only because like but maybe thirteen and
a half fourteen because like I literally like the taste and it tastes like I
really like it. If you like that gassy like og, you're like og,
that'd be good. Yeah, Like that's what I'm saying I love it
and like, well, because I almost was like, I guess the only
reason why I was like is it a fourteen or fifteen? Because sometimes that
fourteen fifteen is that shocked, Like what is this? It's that uniqueness that
just it tastes like an og but like like og or crack, Like it's
like og, but it's like, oh g og, Like you know what
I mean, it's a big og ogg. It's og ogg. Don't like
I can't, I don't know how to say it, but that's the only
way I can say it. So like it's probably it's it's good Man post
of fourteen. If it's almost like I couldn't complain because I like it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you like o G you liking it. We've
been saying I still have to taste a little bit in my mind. That's
not saying it's a little mouthwater. That I mean when it lingers, that's
when you're getting close to me. You're getting close like that like perfect money.
That's that one hundred percent. If it's if they'll smell lingers either open
to container or a bag of weed, and it still smells like that weeds
that tank. You know what I mean like when I can still taste it
facts, dude, That's that's my favorite. When you cut that dank,
it's like that bang when that banger's in a bag. Man, that shit
just get transfer. But as far as affects and high, honestly, I'm
taking it back, man, I actually have some in the head right now.
I'm like, not all body, which is weird. I can tell
you're all body. I'm looking at you. This guy's got like one eye
shut and open, like this guy is not talking the truth right No,
like've all of a sudden just started picking up. So I don't know.
That's interesting. Well, you had a long day and you could be finally
high and be like that is where like for me, I'm like I hit
this and I'm like when you and I was yawning, So I was like
now, I'm like, yeah, I can just like this podcast laying down,
bro, Like I'm down up on your chair. What's going on playing
fuzzies. I do think it is more body. I think I'm actually just
high loosening enough because because it is a little dude, there's always a little
bit of this psycho. I just when I say it's it's heavier in the
body like it's way heavier, like you'd be like an eighty twenty to me.
That's what I'm trying to say, is if you're really gonna say it's
like an eighty twenty, right, like of course you're a little high,
but like to me, it just like calm it calmed me down, right.
That's the only reas why I'm saying it's that. And I worked out,
yesha, and it was pretty sore and pretty sore. So today I'll
put you full screens that way, let's go, big ass headed man.
But my muscles like they're tight, a little bit looser right now, and
I notice that like throughout the whole day. Well see, that's the thing.
Sometimes that sedative stuff can make you loosen up when you're feeling sore.
Right, So maybe that's what you experience. I don't. It's all good,
all good in the hoodie, right. I like him, And my
big thing is like I'm not I do love reaching for another dab. And
actually, because it's the high I'm looking for, I don't necessarily think I
need another dab. So that's what I'm actually really impressed in for me.
That's why I'm when I say it's a good body buzz It's because sometimes when
these ones hit me in the head too much, I'm like taking a couple
dabs to get that like full body high that I'm looking for. Some I's
when I rip a body buzz one, that's when I'm like, right,
like, you know what I mean. So if you like body buzzes,
that's what I'm saying, Like, that's that's all. But anyway, so
what was the next one? I give effects on high thirteen and then we
jump into strength. That's ten. Yeah, and that's I was. I
was actually more impressed with the strength than I thought it was gonna be.
Kind of goes with what you're saying. You don't really it might be because
I really lean into it, so I'm thinking eight and a half. Yeah,
I mean, I feel like I don't really need I could take another
dab for sure, But right now I think you said it best. I'm
actually enjoying the level I'm at. But within twenty minutes, I think I'm
gonna take no dab. Don't get me wrong. That's like my first spoke
of the day. But it's enjoyable. It's strong, it's not too strong.
I'm getting any paranoid and then I don't. It's not like I need
to take multiple dabs because when you look at the price point, you don't
want to take multiple right away with it because you don't want to probably go
go away. So what is the price? That's the next category value?
So what was it? It was like fifty five, so I got two,
that's straight up. Oh no, oh, so it was on sale
being fifty five, Well it was two for one ten, so fifty five.
So it was probably like sixty bucks, you know, yeah, all
day, probably fifty five to sixty. But that's just top shelf I mean,
dude, that's what you get, Like, that's what I was thinking.
That's the price you always see for you side, for the top shelf
stuff in the dispensaries. That's what they usually charge, you know, is
around sixty bucks where the weather give a take, if it's a little bit
cheaper, depending in your air, sometimes a little bit more because they're trying
to sell something special, right, that's that top shelf shit in the dispos
Yes, you know, but like that's why it was really good tasting,
like you know, yeah, the flavor of the consistency no matter where you
get your Rosin. If you want really really really good stuff, you're gonna
have to pay It don't matter if you're going to it like a street street
a swap. Mean yeah, because you have quality rosin. It's like this
took a lot of my flower and it's really good. So like this is
what you're paying for. So like that's what I'm saying, Like I you
know, as much as I may not buy this all day every day,
right, well, yeah, yeah, I get why it's ranked there.
So I guess I'm gonna give it average, just like a six or seven
because that's right where I figure to be ranked. And yeah, sure,
I'd love to see this under fifty. But I get why they don't because
it's it's days stuff, you know. And I mean, like you said,
you go to the the the swap, any of these like be ups
or you know, caregiver events or just you know someone, like they're still
gonna charge you forty fifty bucks for rosin because it's extensive stuff. Like sometimes
when you get the cheaper rosin, they're doing it on a massive stuff and
it's not you know, it tastes good, but it may not lenk,
Right, they get just that little bit of difference, right, So I
think this is it's ranked words churches it. I mean, yes, I
liked it a lot. So if I'm feeling like treating myself, if I
see this ship, it may strain you by yourself. So yeah, they
bought this one, but we may be split this one. Right now.
I just ran out. I broke my glass. It was just my mouth.
Don't break any glass. Just don't break any glass. Anyways, that
obviously passed. That was an upper eighty score for both of us on that.
So shout out to East Side Alchemy and they're collab with Pure Coast Organics
on that race field. Yeah, because that that race field was like five
times better than the racefield which had that one time way better. I don't
mean to knock it, but again that's why you get the See that's my
bulk stuff or you know they not bulk stuff, but just the cheaper stuff,
bulk stuff that was on the bulk Was it bulk? I couldn't.
That's I couldn't remember that because that's where I bought. That's where I this
is my thing, Well, this is the whole thing about that bolk stuff.
That's why or even the twenty dollars thirty dollars ros Like that's why it
will smell good. If you get in there and you taste it, it'll
be good for a little bit. It's just that little bit of difference.
You might need that second dap. Sometimes you might not, though, if
you like dabs or the flavor hits like very you get, you get kind
of what you pay for. But like even for me, like I'm gonna
buy both depending on what you know, where I'm at, just where I'm
at financially. Well, look, that's I think that's what sways a lot
of consumers to be honest with you. You know, I think and I
think that week, you know, but I think that sways us all all
the time. Like I think we're consisting like this, it's payday. I
want to treat myself. Oh I'm broke a ship. I had to pay
that one bill. I forgot about. Oh we're going to the concert,
you know what I mean, Like buy that donut, like you know,
we'll go. Like I'm just saying, like it just depends. Don't tell
me with a good time. Oh yeah, I mean I totally forgot.
We got this wide shot. Whoops. Hey, let's going what's going on
everybody? Yeah, anyway, I just wanted to forgot talk of my Canic
cast with Yeah, I was actually want you to listen up to cannabis Joy.
Alright, if you're just listening to the audio and you're gonna be like,
whoa, I didn't know he could do that, bocus. I actually
have a lot of voices, Yes, you do. It just sounded like
Dave. You just have a low voice, like Dave just has a low
voice, like, uh, I'm more nasily, so when I talk like
this, it's different, you know. That's all. Yeah, Okay,
anyways, we got a bunch of news updates and then we'll get into the
rough news and all the and the hash bash festivities. But you know,
we got some news articles. Let's talk about them. Yeah, yeah,
We're gonna start with inside Mechigan talking about this one lady who sure was trying
to travel from Boston to London. Well, actually that we were starting outside.
Sure, well let's start outside. But no, no, no,
no, no, no, this is no this is a middle ground.
Like we'll just call this in the middle. I think I put Michigan,
but I think she's from Michigan. But she was right but technically she's going
to Boston, and actually, when you read the article, she was going
from Boston to London to London with seventy four pounds of candy. Four pounds,
dude, dude, if you read this article, my favorite thing is
that she goes, oh, I don't know how those got there. Someone
put the g or put that or gave me those bags earlier or somebody.
It's like, literally, you just told them you were a mule, and
they were like there is that she didn't know the cannabis was inside the bags,
and that a woman who she did not know dropped them off to her
earlier that same day. In addition, Palmer said a man whose name she
didn't know organized the suitcase drop off. She Tolderty she met the man in
a four years. She literally was like, I give you money through zell
and cash app. But she's probably both done it a couple of times now.
I know. It's like she's like, hey, I'm a mule and
then they only give her a three though. That's well, no, that's
not only why I bet you she snitched like that. They're just telling you
the nice stuff right there. Yeah, so that she snitched hard I'm saying
she probably gave names and addresses. They're just summing it up. But that
to me, that's what it sounded like. You're right, though, Dave,
he thought the same thing though, right, Yeah, okay, okay,
Because I was like, the Federal d traffic, you're crossing fucking you're
doing all that shit and the only thing that happens a three thousand dollars fine
and you get your passport taken. Yeah, bail was at that. Yeah,
No, that's what I'm saying. I'm just saying it was like for
what it could have been if they would have been doing that, Like if
that person came from a different country, they would have shipped him back and
charged him worse, never would have let him know. I bet she just
something else could still happen in that case. I just felt like, for
how light that was, she snitched, that's all that's always saying. That's
all. I mean, seventy seventy four pounds and you're probably looking at a
couple of years in jail. There was no it was three thousand dollars that
was bail. Oh, but I thought there was no time sentence. That's
what I was trying to say. I thought it was just three thousand dollars
bail, and that was like her, Fine, it was a three thousand
dollars fine. Oh, I must have read that wrong. Then I swear
that it's a three thousand dollars fine again, I read this earlier. Let
me reread the bottom. I actually closed that article out on my tap.
You're fired, I know. I was like Boston judge at Bomber's Oh,
you're right, I'm so sorry. Yeah, three thousand dollars and had to
run her passport. So I guess she's probably just out on bond. Yeah,
but still, I just thought that was a slap on the wrist.
I was like, that's crazy. That is a slap on the wrist for
seventy five pounds and literally flying with it, and she yeah, I was
gonna get a car in London. I was gonna pick me up. What.
Wow, she definitely snitched and probably definitely we'll be getting less fine.
I don't think we'll hear much about it, and I think you'll probably just
fly under the radar. So yeah, yeah, because that's what I was
trying to say. It just seems like but I just thought it was kind
of funny because It's like you would see the difference between like not snitching and
snitching. Are you actually several a lot of time or I mean not saying
I would do it. I'm just saying, look at what she did,
Like she clearly snitched her way out and she's like, I'm out this bee.
Yeah, I don't know them. Like also for you, are you
snitching on though? Are you snitching on like some mob bosses? Cartel shit?
Who's shipping seventy poor? I guess nowadays it's a little, but I
just feel like though Andy, it was like three to five five grades and
they were saying, you're going back to mean going back to Michigan back and
like they're they're muling. I mean, this is what they're doing. It's
crazy. I mean, we gotta they gotta export the weed somewhere. You
know what's funny. Georgia is not even legal. I mean, Georgia's not
legal where Atlanta is? Was that the dointhing? George is not legal?
So this is just what. I wonder what Buddet's grown. I wonder if
it's from Cali packs. I wonder if it's actually grow she was from Michigan.
Are we what are we talking about, not the same article. Yeah,
she's from Michigan, so she got the she drove with the no she's
from she's a Michigan person that went, What weed did she get though?
Oh? I don't know did that say that in there? I didn't read
that at all. That's it was just Michigan. I don't know that that.
My whole point is that doesn't matter, Like that doesn't really matter where
from she was just from Michigan. She was clearly just muling. Yeah,
she was in Boston flying and that person she met, you don't know where
they're from either. That's just where she met them, you know, That's
what I'm saying. I'm curious where they get the butt. I don't know.
Probably never see that person again or hear about that person again, hopefully
in a good way, not the bad way. You know what I'm saying.
Probably not what you got next. Groovy. So this one's the better
maid Sue's a better smoke of Michigan. Yeah, pretty dumb marketing. I'm
not like we talked about briefing on the waken Bake. If you're not there
on the waken Bake, it's every Saturday, nine am Eastern you miss groovy,
take a grand dab, and you missed me take a I A that
was pretty rough. Not gonna lie honestly out, but we talked about it
on the waken Bake their marketing trademark invenement Lazy second off. They sent a
seasoned to assist. I believe, And if they did, why didn't you
just like stop it? Stop production? I have no because that's all you
have to do. When you do that, that looks literally like better maid.
It's exactly, it's like it's it's it's just like change the color.
And if you're better smoke, why don't you ask if they even want to
collab on it? Maybe they would be interested, like an investor or something
that somebody behind the scenes, so that way they just basically, hey,
we'll give you nine percent if you just don't sue us. Well, here
I'm gonna pull up here. Actually just I'm mind blowing because it's like,
okay, it's loading really slow. Here we go. I got a great
idea. We're gonna take better made slogan and put better smoke on it,
premium cannabis instead of special. In the boardroom, they're like sold genius.
They're like haw, were you gonna get in ring? All right? So
hold on, hold on. I pulled up the I'm pulling out. I
pulled out the article. There was some ad pulled up, but here look
there it is. So if you're on, if you're not on, you
know, if you're just listening to this podcast on Spotify, if you want
to go to YouTube, you can check it out right here at twenty five
minutes. And then these are the logos. I'll even make a big right
now there you go, better smoke premium cannabis and better made. Literally it's
like they off changed the color of just the red and then that's it.
Like it's almost like the same exact font too. Jeez. Yeah. And
like you said, Dave, just kind of lazy marketing, bro, just
think of your own man like and I and I get it people do that
type of spin stuff, you know, but that's like kind of like how
they would do stuff like you know, and just like when they were solid
try you know, you're shipping ship, like when it was trapping, because
you'd get like nerd ropes, but he'd be like can of nerds, like
you know what I mean, Like you know, so for me, it's
like and that's fine because I feel like for that stuff, you are trying
to be generic and because you're just trapping, you just want them to get
to the point. I get that, but like this is you're trying to
be a brand. You're trying to you're legal, You're not in the trap
market. You're not trapping right now. You're legal brand pushing legal consumers twenty
one and up, like anyone can buy the product. Yeah, And I
what I was just it just for me. I just think it's a lot
of those like I feel when those people you're not starting LLCs when you're trapping,
right, that's my whole point. You're trying to get people. You're
doing unique marketing because you can. You're you're gonna make it like a like
literally a brand, like a company. And you were like this is gonna
be fine, Like how the hell did you think that? Like it's like
it would be like someone like literally having something called Wallpacks instead of walmartt and
like because to me, that sounds like a trap brand right there. Wallpacks
like done it, like and I'd be like check out. I would check
them out right, like if it was just the street Birds, and I'd
be like oh right, but like, because I think marketing's more fun when
you don't have to worry about getting sued. But when you're starting a new
brand, how did you not think this through? That's all. It's not
going to go sue a trapper. They'll go see this metric brand that's got
tons of money and get them to seize this. I mean you know,
yeah, and that's it. It's just like and you had it literally a
warning. You still were like, no, it didn't say that in that
article, but I thought we read it last week that it had they got
they meant they wrote the brands to like take it down or something like the
stop it, like the attorney's contacted them and they didn't. So like if
that's true and you don't stop, like right there, you should be like
common sense. I don't know, that's what I mean. Like, I'm
in marketing. There's so much there's so much stuff that you're get in trouble
with, and like that right there is it's blatantly obvious. I mean to
me, if I was a judge or I'm the jury and I saw them,
like is this the same, I'd be like yeah, pretty much.
I mean it's almost like dentacle. I'm assuming you had, because it's said
in the article you had consumers that contacted Better Made about it. So they're
probably like, you guys are in weed right now and they probably weren't expecting
that. Oh you take. I mean, you be diminishing. You feel
like you're gonna hit their brand from my angle that they may not like especially
unmourned like that, like you're gonna make what I know, So we'll keep
an eye on that cause that's an interesting case that goes through the rest of
this year. So we'll be keeping you updated on that. Yeah, yep.
So I mean we're just kind of jump around until we are at articles
and we're in tire you know. I don't know, but this one was.
I just thought it was interesting because it's kind of like just nearby Orchard
Lake quashes pushes for recreational marijuana, which I had a Google it's void or
project is whatquashes me? Just so you know, it's case. It's curious,
so they don't sounds like they weren't into it. It was a very
confusing article when I was reading through it because I was really trying to dig
through. They more just discussed what happened. They were shocked. So many
people showed up. It was like standing room and they've never had so many
people show up for like a council meeting, like not in a long time
for you know, someone I just thought, you know, I just wanted
to read because I actually read through and there was a quote that was hilarious
that was like I don't want to see a house a dank and Orchard Lake.
And there was like people calling out certain things and like, you know,
why does a man from Belleville want to come to Orchard Lake? And
it's like these people are very community based. It sounds like from some of
their comments and like meaning like if they're not from Orchard Lake, we don't
want them in Orchard Lake less less against the cannabis. Again, it sounded
like they were against cannabis obviously if it quashed like chicken, I don't look
up that works. I didn't even know, So we'll say it sounds sounds
I don't know. It sounds like they had and they sounds like these lawyers
are submitting stuff to how many are out there, you know? And that's
what I said, is if it means if they men void in this sense
it may just be like, hey, maybe they have to resubmit some stuff.
And that's what I said. It just sounds like it's not happening now.
Doesn't sound like they're like hate marijuana. Sometimes when we get read these
articles, it just sounds like they hated it. Oh yeah. Someone from
Orchard Lake was like, I want to start a whole holistic dispensary. Maybe
like a micro they might. I feel like I feel like there's still hope.
I just feel like it's so hard an Orchard Lake for some reason.
I mean, excuse me. Oakland County, Yeah it is, it's oak
County. Oakland's been a slow roll compared to McComb and Wayne. You only
have a little bit McCombs. Right, No one else is in Oakland County.
Well, you got Hazel Royal. They're near Oil, but they're pretty
much they're Ferndale, right, there's Ferndale. No, there's that one that
I thought, there's that one in Woodward that was supposed to open. I
saw it. I haven't seen it open. I've seen one on near royalet
a couple see again. McComb that's anyway is cool too, But like,
I just feel like Oakland's been the slowest rollout washing the metro Detroit area.
I should say, yeah, what I'm saying so, and it's one of
the richest counties in America too, that's crazy. Yeah, well all right.
And then really just two more out of state things. Uh. I
actually didn't pull it up one of them, but this one, this one
is just I thought was like a quick thing we could touch on. Florida
Supreme Court approves measure for wreck cannabis. So it sounds like it's not the
wreck cannabis yet, but it's almost there. Right, there's just will be
on the ballot. He'll be on the ballot in November. That's okay,
but that's it. That was the final but it needs a six I thought
it said it passed to get approved by the voters. So that's so it's
not legal yet. It's just it's up to the people though. So cool
that has I mean considering that it's medical, like, I feel like it's
gonna pass. So yeah, So that was so very cool Florida, you
know, very cool. Yeah, I hope hopefully they pass it. Yeah,
very cool. And then last but not least, Ohio. I just
saw a couple of articles we couldn't actually click into one of them, and
then there's another one kind of referring to something similar. I think it's kind
of interesting about Ohio going legal because I feel like they're putting out articles now
to warm people before weather goes warm, because they're like, laws will not
let you smoke outside, and that's what I was, like, they make
a new law. I think they're just literally warning people of like, hey,
probably because they're like, we don't like weed. So I just wanted
to say less of an article update and just say like, go lok,
Ohio, because you're gonna smoke whe outside. You know you're gonna be pumped,
so do I hope it rolls out good because we had the same issue
here, and the issue is like you should be able to smoke weed like
outside, like I know, in public places. I understand, like you
know, but at the same time, it's like if you're outside on a
smoking patio, like I feel like I'm already used to smelling weed outside.
I don't know. I just feel like Ohio is gonna be kind of tough
on that. That's all I was saying, so pretty warning they're putting out
articles, so sorry, Ohio. Yeah, we'll see, right, we
don't know, right, we still technically can't smoke in public here, but
we still all do now I think it's yeah, that's it. That's all
the articles we had. So yeah, we're going to our Hashbash, and
obviously we're gonna pay a little tribute to John Sinclair, which we should actually
roll something up and smoke something for us. So you got flower, then
we should south that up. So we were gonna smoke went up here for
John Sinclaire because that's only right. I feel like sounds about right. Yeah,
Well, do you want to start with John a little bit about John
or do we want to wait until we start smoking to talk about John?
Right now, I can give you a little bit on hash Bash and we
can just talk Hashbash. Let's just talk hash Bash because John's story back and
forth. Yeah, it's gonna kind of go back. Yeah, you're right,
because they're kind of we could just we could talk about well, I
just want to talk about Hashbash while you're rolling up. So anyways, I'm
just gonna about Hashbash real quick. So Hashbash anyways is going on this Saturday.
WU always a time well, it's always it's always an active day and
it's a very you know, I say fun, but it's just because it's
it's it's a powerful day, right, like the energy you get to be
around everyone like minded supporting cannabis, just having a good time, hearing activists
speak, you know, and there's stuff going on and dispensaries of stuff going
on the streets. Like it's just a fun energy to be around, right,
you know, it's moving so and you know, and the Hashbash the
celebration is Saturday, April six at the uf M Diage at high noon.
Now, there are other things going on, we'll dig into that later.
As that is Hashbash, I want to clarify that exactly. That's what I'm
just speaking about. Just that's why I said I wanted to just talk about
Hashbash. We can talk about the whole day after we get through Johnson Clair
because there is so much going on that outside of that has been built from
Hashbash, just like day was about to say, I think, but this
is like and that's why I want to just talk about hashbash right now.
Because hashbash was started as an activism thing and U of M DIAG and there's
still at high noon there's activists who speak. You talk about things being going
on in legislation, things that are going on that are aren't right inherited because
like everyone feels like now that it's racked, like hey we're there, we
were not there, right, you know, Amy Carmer Carter, I'm sure
is going to say something or at least be there in regardless of Jayden's law
being able to help k through twelve he was medically, which is you know,
a huge thing going on legislation now or mister Hashbash will be there and
doing his speeches and Jamie Lowell and we're honoring Rick Thompson this flash Bash as
well as now obviously Johnson Claire. So it's gonna be huge this year your
memory and at the hash Bash. Mister Hashbash even spoke posting on Facebook many
host I'm not going to get too much into it, but he was pretty
much saying definitely be there on Saturday because it's gonna be a big remembrance for
Johnson Clair. Yeah, I mean, how could it not. I mean,
John Sinclair is literally the reason why this has Bash activism move. Like,
yeah, celebration started celebration. I didn't it's now kind of a celebration.
It's not see that's I said. It's hard for me sometimes because it's
a mixed thing now, but it started avism is actively because of John Sinclair's
story. Most use it as some use it as a celebration, you know,
because they'll go out there and just go smoke weed and don't understand the
whole concept behind fair And I didn't know the whole full thing really until mister
Hashbash came on back in twenty. Well, I went before we started this
podcast to just smoke weed and, like you said, just have fun because
they'd like everyone's like back then, it was like you smoke weed in public,
it's like you gotta look over your shoulders still. So it was like
fun to just smoke weed outside, right, you know. So yeah,
it depends on your on your understanding of the event. I feel like that
kind of comes with learning. Yeah, it does. And we learned from
one of the OG's mister Hashbash, and his dear friend John Saint Clair,
who passed away yesterday at the age of eighty two. And I want to
give a moment of silence and then we're going to spark this joint out.
You take a moment and like you light it up and that's how we'll move
into talking, and once that's lit, we'll start talking. So yeah,
and uh before though for at eighty two from heart failure, which is unfortunate
because he was supposed to speak this Saturday too at hashbash. I read an
article I think Jamie Lowell posted on Facebook and I think he was quoted in
it, and he was one of the speakers that they had speaking. And
like you said, they're going to remember it's a lot of activists. There's
a lot of activists that died last year, and they were going through the
names, and one of them that we know, very prominent figure, was
Rick Thompson, so they're going to be talking about him. And then also
now Johnston Claire. I'm it's probably gonna be very emotional that day at definitely
a high noon now because it happened this week. And he, like Groovy
said, he's the reason why hashback started. He was arrested for two joints
he gave to an undercover cop back in like nineteen sixty nine, and then
he was sent to the ten years in jail yep, and then I believe
he starved a little over two years. He was out in December of seventy
one, Yes, sir, that's exactly right, which then spawned the Freedom
Rally or the Johnson Claire Rady. So so I mean did a lot of
things. Yeah, so Johnson Claire before you know this, like all you
know before this stuff, he managed the band in MC five. He's a
poet, he went he got a Batchelor's degree in American literature from U of
M. Born in Flynn. I just want to talk a little bit about
him, raised in Davison. He started all sorts of groups in art and
poetry and wrote all sorts of publications and did all this awesome stuff. So
I definitely want to talk about the cannabis. It's just that he gets so
much of a life like and you know, I knew a little bit about
poetry, and obviously we got to see him, you know, perform a
few times, which is great, and you know, mad respect because like
I do art in my own way and I love seeing people do art.
So I've always had respect for this man, even though I've never really you
got to kick it with him and smoke, right, but just for how
money, like how much of movements he like touched, like he was really
important in blues and jazz and poetry and in cannabis obviously, but it's just
like very amazing. But yeah, you bought up a very good thing with
that. The nineteenth the nineteen seventy one, they did the Freedom Rally where
they had he was in at Arbor yep and John Lennon and Yoko Ono performed
along with Stevie Wonder, Bob Seeger, David Peel, others, Phil Oaks
and others. And then Sinclair was free three days after. So that was
probably you know, and that's right when the state Supreme Court deemed state's marijuana
statues on constitutional, which is huge, right, So I think that's effected.
You know, it started Hashbash because from him getting arrested, that was
the first Hashbash they started doing that rally, and then two years later they
did this huge rally and then look what happened, right, So it's crazy
to think that now it's the fifty third. Yeah, this is the fifty
third, and look how big of an event it's become. And this is
why I want to talk about this in this order, because yeah, Hashbash
is great and I love it, I love the activism, but now there's
because of all this and because of all this growth because of cannabis is growing
so much. Now it's you know, we have Monroe Street Fair which is
all like the legal brand, which is like, yeah, kind of like
the metric market. I should say, well, it wasn't even before that
though. Before it was just was Monroe Street Fair where there was and they
were there's just a bunch of brands out there supporting cannabis. That's all it
was with products. Right now it's transformed into more metric brands because they're able
to have product out, they're able to consume, and that's literally right behind
the diag. So it's the hash bag. The Monroe Street Fair started and
spawned because of Hashbash and then and then also now we're the Hashbash club too,
right and then now you think about by mister Hashbash himself, I believe,
and now with all the legal brands, bro, like, think about
all the all the stuff that goes on with the Treasure Map, Yeah,
redemptions, so you know what I'm saying. The Treasure Map, which was
pretty sweet, and what that is is, excuse me. You can buy
a map. Some discmos had them for free. You can buy them and
you go all around ann arbor on Hashbash day or throughout like I think the
weekend. Maybe it's a couple of days. I don't know, but I
know we did it last year and you're able to get discounts, like starting
at a certain time ending in a certay I don't know. And then they
had prizes and stuff at the end after everyone completed and sending in their stuff,
which is very cool, which is adding onto the hash patch. But
I also love that without Hashbash, you know that stuff would have happened.
Well, that's what I'm saying, Like if you look at like the butterfly
effects, without what John say Sinclair went through, all this stuff wouldn't have
happened. Who knows where we would be in Michigan with legal weed right now,
because that that spawned the I was reading count the counter something man.
I messed up the name. But back in the sixties, the Counterparty,
maybe that spawned a lot a lot of that activism pushing towards the legalization of
cannabis here in the state of Michigan. Like every year you went to Hashbash
up until twenty eighteen, talking and probably fighting. In nineteen sixty eight with
his wife Lenny and Lawrence pon Panamon. He founded the White Panther Party in
support of the civil rights in his work with pursue culture freedom and sorts the
support of legalization of marijuana. Is that what you're speaking maybe might have been
because I remember, you know, shout out Jamie Loll another great activists.
He's talked to us about the White Panther Party, and I think he mister
Hashbash, but you know again, Johnson Clair was a huge part of it.
And then like you know, Blue, like you know, I think
mister Hashbash brought this up to like you said, but like for me,
I it didn't really sink when until I was reading all these articles and like
really gathering all what he did. And Sinclair also faced charges of conspiracy to
destroy government property in nineteen seventy two, which went all the way up to
the US Supreme Court and it resulted in in a decision landmark decision I say,
that prohibited the government's use of electronic surveillance without a warrant. Like,
man, this guy's out here just changing and that's like what from seventy one
to same too smallfucker just changing huge laws like multiple like man, like amo
activism. This this man did is it's unforgettable. It's it's just it's remarkable.
So we wouldn't be where we are today without without a yeah, Michigan
wouldn't have the laws we have Because of that, the community grew around him,
And that's what I was saying. It is like seriously, Butterfly Factoto.
Without Johnson Claire, we wouldn't have this like celebration or what it's become.
On April sixth, it's more. I would say it's a little bit
more celebration than it was before it got legal well right, right, because
I remember that year we went. It felt crazy that year. The vibes
were we went in nineteen and twenty nineteen. After we legalized it in eighteen,
it was people it was like it felt more of a celebration than like
activism. And then people like still going like this is we're fighting you know
if it's not, it was just a break. I still feel like there's
things to be fought. There's a lot of things to be fought for,
right probably in jail people, Yeah, people are still in prison. Jail.
You got to get smoke with your jobs. People are getting that those
insurance you can't get, So there's so the list goes on, but for
a moment it felt like we want right, like like like that wasn't there,
right, everything was perfect for a second, and yeah, I just,
uh, you know, it's just gonna be different, you know,
knowing all this and just just being there and yeah, I'm most to tell
everyone that listens because it's important. And this man did a lot. He
did, he did, and I'm most bummed I didn't get to hear his
poetry one more time because like the last couple of years, I loved hearing
that hashbash, Like anytime he spoke, the crowd listened, like it was
like not more silent. We sat up, we were up close, we
were up a little bit back in a couple of years. So I think
it was what third or fourth year going in a row groovy, I think,
or a third now because of the COVID and then we were sick or
something. I don't know, but it's like and I just remember these and
then probably nineteen but it's that it's just big for the it's just big for
the industry. They are for Michigan activism, like that was he was a
big staple in it, right, Yeah, he was one of the first
people to purchase cannabis too when it went legal here in the state, which
is full circle from Johnson Clair. Like hash bash, it's happening. Be
there, you can be there, like I know people got work and like,
but like you know, to walk you through the day, like high
noon to like two there's great speeches and then like two to four there's like
bands and other like things. There might and I might be a little off
with that timing exactly, but there be a hash pash high noon is hash
bag. Yeah, but you you're there at three, you're there. But
mister Hashbash always sayeah and that right, and that's hash. But that's that
moment of like you get the look around and really right, that's that energy.
And but you know, I was just saying, if you guys stuck
work on other things, there's you know, go at any time, and
there's always the Hashbash cup. I think that actually goes Friday, Saturday and
Sunday. You know, So I just you know, wherever you can,
if you can make it Dan Arbor this weekend, it'll be it'll be fun,
it'll be worth it. And if you if you can maybe hear some
stuff and learn some stuff smoke some stuff. There's a lot of stuff to
smoke. And if you are going out there, hit us up, hitsing
the dms. We'll be out there, like Ruby said, we will be.
We're gonna hit all three. We'll be at the dayag at noon where
we're planning to do a smoke up twelve thirty. What was it left side?
No, I said right So you said right side, right side,
But this is where we met up last year. We'll have to try to
find the surface the same picture. It's literally just audience right like middle.
Yeah, we'll try to like post a picture on the store here just around
But like I said, I mean you'll probably you know text us. I
don't think it's supposed to rain. So we're looking better weather and it looks
like fifty degrees now it's supposed to be fifty five on Saturday. Now it's
dropped to fifty to fifty two. So say, man, it's gonna change
every day. But I just don't want rain again. Same same. If
it's no rain, I'm happy, but like honestly, try to make it
out if you can, it's gonna be. That's gonna be a big hashbash
day to me. One for the books. I bet and uh, we'll
be at Hashbash cops. If you can't make that, go to Hashbash coup
like groove, he said, we'll be there Saturday night. We'll be there
to at least the award show. Will be there through the award show.
Why are we going to say to the award show? Because I entered some
bangering. Hopefully hopefully it does good. You know, if you're listening,
send me some good vibes. If you don't want to cool, it's all
good. But if you can. But if you can, your boy appreciate
it. We'll see. Man who knows, you know, I'd be excited
if anything happens. I don't. It's got a chance. The way it's
way, you know, I'm not gonna change, but the way the way
it's ranking, you have a chance. That's all say. I don't know
take home number one, but you definitely a chance, plays I believe,
do you know? I don't. I know. If you ain't first,
you last, But I'll take a second. We've got a third over there.
Let's take home two and then number the third third times the term take
home number one? Could that be pretty a little elevation. We're just getting
number one this Dame bro. I'm just saying that shit smokes good. You
never know, there's a lot of good smoke and Michigan. But as long
as smoking Michigan, there's a lot out there. But yeah, episodes every
week four twenty hit us up week, Awaken Bakes Saturdays. Actually we're not
doing the we can make this Saturday though, because of all the festivities and
because of us meeting up and getting out there on time, and because we're
trying to do some other recordings and stuff. It's just it's kind of impossible.
Yeah, unless you've cloned us. So yeah, so right now,
I mean we might maybe we'll just like try to go live from like IG
or Facebook, like on the phone, like while we're ig. Yeah,
maybe just for a little bit. But we're not going to do a full
wagon make you know, No, definitely not. We will be back the
following week, which is I don't even know the day, I think the
twelfth or thirteenth, but we'll be back that day for Awaken Bake and and
then if you're at Hashbash, we'll be just smoking with everybody. So that's
the whole point. Yeah, we'll be doing that. Let's we'll have to
bring my puff co. Yeah, we'll talk about that after. But anyways,
Groove of Music, two We's and no Why everywhere, Michanic cast everywhere,
Mycanicas dot com, Canna Dave. Just check me out everywhere and have
a great rest of your week. Go Tigers opening days this Friday. Get
them. Oh my god? Yeah sorry, just with everything going on,
I just totally forgot Meet Connect Puff out and home over at Brooklyn Thursday.
If you don't know, we will be going live Thursday is what we have.
Connect Puff too. Yeah, we'll be going live Thursday, so you
can catch us live this Thursday. We'll be down at the Brooklyn for the
me Connect Puff event. Like Dreovy was saying, sorry and other than that,
yeah, well you can catch us there live. Yeah, dude,
I'm so pumped. Man. It's gonna be a fun weekend. It's gonna
be a busy week, but it's gonna be a fun weekend. So yeah,
Sunday's can be really dally. I don't thk we're gonna speak to each
other what Sunday? Oh yeah, I'm you know, ironically, like might
go I was supposed to climb like early Sunday morning, so I'm like,
oh, we'll see, we'll see anyways, excited and as always, man,
we're here to advocate, educate, and inspire. The next time, y'all pace