WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:04.040 Karen, Yes, do you think a person can use their mind, just 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:09.919 their mind to free themselves from chronic pain? Actually? I do? You 3 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:11.759 do? I do? Well? Then wonder if I told you that you 4 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:15.320 could be done in under twenty eight minutes? What no? I mean? 5 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:19.679 Please? Because I have I believe people can do it, I don't believe 6 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:22.559 I can do it. Well, then, once again, Karen, you 7 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:28.879 are in luck because today's guest is pioneering new breakthrough research and achieving incredible healing 8 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:33.679 results that are capturing the attention of researchers, doctors, and scientists worldwide. 9 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:38.200 Twenty eight minutes. Okay, hang on, before this episode is done, 10 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.479 we're going to learn just what this new research is, what the actual results 11 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:47.719 were, and how she was able to achieve these mind blowing results. If 12 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:51.880 you're looking for a way to relieve yourself from chronic pain fast, than this 13 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:55.880 might just be the episode for you. Here we go, Welcome to the 14 00:00:55.920 --> 00:01:00.560 Skeptic Metaphysicians. My name is Will and I'm Karen. Unlike Boulder and Scully, 15 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:03.599 we both want to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery. 16 00:01:03.680 --> 00:01:07.359 We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world. We've 17 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:11.560 thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a coven of witches 18 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:15.640 and wait, you joined a coven? Yep, all the interest of finding 19 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.519 something, anything, that will prove that there's something beyond this physical, three 20 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:37.239 dimensional world we all live in. This is the skeptic metaphysicians. Hey there, 21 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:42.439 I will. And it may seem physically impossible to relieve chronic pain in 22 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:48.120 minutes using only the mind, but our guest today has been able to consistently 23 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:53.400 demonstrate how to do this, and she's even filmed and documented these results under 24 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:56.719 medical thermal imaging, so you know it's right up my alley. Wow R, 25 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.680 this is Perfection incarnate. Due to these groundbreaking discs, Govery's her work 26 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:04.599 has been featured in the Health Medical Journal, She's been invited to deliver a 27 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:08.560 TEDx talk, and even appeared in a bunch of documentaries. And her new 28 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:14.599 book, Master Your Mind and Energy to Heal Your Body, she shares the 29 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:21.120 key to unlocking these results, providing readers with profound clarity and understanding of self 30 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:25.879 healing. That is, mind expanding and even fills into gaps so that mind 31 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:31.080 body healing can make logical sense. Are you hearing a pattern emerge? Here? 32 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:36.120 I'm hearing a pattern and oh well hang on. In fact, her 33 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:42.000 book has been given rave reviews by people you definitely recognize like Sharon Stone huh 34 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:45.879 and Jack Canfield from The Chicken Too for the Soul series, and the forward 35 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:52.560 to her book was written by none other than renowned neurologist doctor David Pearlmot, 36 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:57.120 who's a five time New York Times bestseller. Wow, we know this person 37 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:00.879 is legit. We're definitely among one of the great in the field. And 38 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:05.439 it gives me great pleasure to be able to introduce Brandy Gilmour to the show. 39 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:08.879 Brandy, Holy crap, I am I excited about this conversation? Yeah, 40 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:15.599 oh my god, you guys are so much fun. I can hang 41 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:17.280 out with you guys all day. Well, we're gonna hold you to that, 42 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:24.879 cause you know we can go a long time and even more pain free. 43 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:29.719 All right, Well, we have a lot to talk about because looking 44 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:31.560 at you, and if you're only listening to the show, you should probably 45 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:36.439 go to our YouTube page and check her out because she looks incredibly She's a 46 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:39.680 beautiful woman. She's incredibly saturesque. You would never know that not long ago 47 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:46.280 you suffered from a debilitating accident that actually laid you out in a very big 48 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:51.400 way. All right, Yeah, yeah, I was quite a mess. 49 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:55.240 And if somebody had told me that I could release my pain in twenty eight 50 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:59.919 minutes or even less where any of that, I would have probably on a 51 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.599 initially taken offense to it, I would have thought, they don't understand that 52 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:09.520 I have physical injuries, right. I would have thought that it was impossible. 53 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:12.479 And I think, you know, one of the breakthrough things during my 54 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:17.279 injury that really opened my eyes was the awareness of multiple personality disorder, that 55 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:24.480 a person could literally have one illness, pain or ailment in one personality and 56 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:29.279 a completely different illness or pain or ailment in a different personality, you know, 57 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:31.160 but the same physical body. And I thought, how is this even 58 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:35.160 possible? And there was even this research study of a woman who was blind 59 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:41.360 in some personalities medically blind confirmed ag I know, in some personalities but not 60 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:46.000 other, And I thought, I need a healthy personality. You just go 61 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.879 through your rolodexs and go boom. This one today kind of reminds me of 62 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:56.120 you hear about phantom limbs yes, yea to feel that limb, but your 63 00:04:56.160 --> 00:05:00.839 mind is like I actually I read that discouraging information for which at the time 64 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:02.439 I was a bit cynical, and I thought, okay, great, because 65 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:09.600 you know people with amputees they have eighty to ninety percent chance of still having 66 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:13.160 pain. And as I was researching all of this, I thought at the 67 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:15.959 time, as I was reaching researching, I thought, great, so I 68 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:19.800 could amputate my body and there's still an eighty to ninety percent chance I still 69 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:26.720 have pains. Multiple personality disorder. I was a bit more excited, and 70 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:30.839 I do have absolute compassion on a serious note for anybody who has it. 71 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:34.600 But that's my truth. I mean I was when doctors said that they couldn't 72 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:38.360 heal me, and then I started looking at the plus eibo and the no 73 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:44.399 cibo and then multiple personality disorder, I mean that was it, really and 74 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:47.480 then energy of the body. I mean it literally just started unfolding as and 75 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:50.839 everything was pointing at the mind is having the answer. Yeah, But before 76 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:55.120 we go there, because that you're to put the cart before the horse, 77 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:58.160 right, I wanted to I want to really kind of lay down exactly how 78 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:00.920 it was for you, because there were times you couldn't even get up out 79 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.800 of bed. You use wheelchairs and walkers. I mean, you were in 80 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:09.680 really, really bad shape. So the pain you were experiencing was something I 81 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:12.720 can completely understand why you'd be offended with someone say, oh you can just 82 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.199 it's you know, just cleared up with your mind, right. Someone had 83 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:19.480 always say that, right, absolutely, so to walk us through from the 84 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:25.680 moment you realized that you were living with this chronic pain that was gonna be 85 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.360 with you for a while, to the point where you found your way to 86 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.319 who you are now, because you certainly don't look like someone who's suffering from 87 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.360 chronic pain now, thank god, I've been out of pain for a lot 88 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:41.240 of years, fourteen years now. So my accident was back in three and 89 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:45.240 so basically a long story short. I used to do network engineering and operations 90 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.720 and at that time I had an accident, and technically two accidents. I 91 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:53.639 had a car accident and then a fall and I fell just wrong, just 92 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.560 right, however you want to say it. But I literally went from living 93 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:00.759 a full life to being wheelchair walker, cane, having a neurological disorder. 94 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:03.480 Doctors telling me I had, you know, all kinds of issues, final 95 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:09.319 endplay fractures CRPS, which is COMMS regional pain syndrome. Yeah, I was 96 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:13.519 a mess and my whole life turned upside down. I mean, on a 97 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:16.240 good day, I could get out get around with my wheelchair walker or cane. 98 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.600 On a bad day, I didn't make it out of bed. I 99 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:24.079 had a lot of bad days. It was a morphine for over six and 100 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:27.680 a half years. I mean, I was an absolute mess. And basically 101 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.600 when they told me there was nothing that they could do, and they were 102 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:34.120 doing you know, nerve oblasions and infusions and injections and all of that. 103 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:39.920 But you know, I tried the traditional route of then the supplements and the 104 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:44.160 diet and that wasn't working, and the accupy like all of the this and 105 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:46.360 the that, and you know, all of the things, and it wasn't 106 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:50.120 working. And I just started looking further and further outside of the box. 107 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:55.040 And I was doing the meditation and the visualization and the believing. I was 108 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:59.120 already healed because I thought initially that it was all about the power of belief 109 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:03.560 and what was that was fascinating because I thought, you know, okay, 110 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.240 well, I see the placebo, I see everything pointing to the mind, 111 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:09.360 and I thought, well, I just have to believe, and I was 112 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:13.639 trying and visualizing and all of the things, and it wasn't working for like 113 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:18.759 years. And then I found something called the open label placebo, which is 114 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.279 where both the doctor and the patient both know it's fake. So it's open 115 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.319 label. They both know and it still works. And I thought, we'll 116 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:31.399 wait a second, what I know? I know? So I was like, 117 00:08:31.159 --> 00:08:35.159 I felt like duped. I was sitting here believing all this time and 118 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.840 it wasn't working. No wonder why it wasn't working. It was more than 119 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:39.759 belief. And that's what led me to say, Okay, look, I 120 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.679 just need to understand the medical journals. And I started tearing through every single 121 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:50.799 medical journal I could find is trying to figure out how to heal. Okay, 122 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.720 so wait to say, are you telling me that the way that you 123 00:08:54.960 --> 00:09:00.000 were able to get beyond pain, and in fact, the way that you 124 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:05.720 recommend people get beyond pain within twenty eight minutes, is just to have you 125 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:09.399 and your doctor believe that the pill you're taking, which is just a sugar 126 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.240 pill, is going to do the trick. No, that's what I'm saying. 127 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.279 It didn't work like these okay, okay, good good, No, 128 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:20.279 no, no, no no. What I'm saying is I thought it was 129 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:24.159 all about belief, and so I was trying to believe and believe and believe 130 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.879 and believe and believe, and it wasn't working. Okay, And then I 131 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:31.480 found something called the open label placebo, which is exactly like it sounds. 132 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:37.159 It is a placebo that is open label that both the doctor and the patient 133 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:39.399 both know it's a fake pill and it still can work. So it's not 134 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:43.600 all about belief. And that opened my eyes to say, I have to 135 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:50.080 understand more. Does that okay? So Brandy, I have to understand more. 136 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:58.639 I believe it, and I think, but everybody needs to understand more 137 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:05.200 because I think that there were certain pivotal awarenesses, if you will, that 138 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:09.559 really opened my eyes that it is beyond meditation, It is beyond just believing. 139 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:15.559 It is to create a real change, we really do have to rewire 140 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:20.759 our subconscious mind at a deeper level. And that's the key. Don't look 141 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.919 now, but it looks like there's a raccoon behind you. I did not 142 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:33.600 to say he decides heems like doing the bunny years to you. If I 143 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:37.000 don't pet him, he decides he's going to pet himself with me. He's 144 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:43.879 just he believes that you're petting him. I totally understand and relate to the 145 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:50.480 cat because I'm the same way with Karen all the time. But it ast 146 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:58.279 me so annoying. You guys are so cute. I just love how you 147 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:03.159 guys just beautiful couple. Thank you, thank you so much. You are 148 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:05.879 as well, and we were having such a great time. We can tell 149 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:09.240 right away as soon as you've logged on this is gonna be fun. We're 150 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:15.440 excited absolutely, So I don't mind my tail. Sorry about that. I 151 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:18.320 usually closed the office doors and yeah, it's okay. We are a pet 152 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:26.080 friendly perfect. So this part of the breakthrough was I had been doing all 153 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:31.320 of the meditation and the positive thinking and the things, and it wasn't working. 154 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.679 And so when I started to really dive in to the medical journals and 155 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.279 I said, okay, let me figure out what it is, because I 156 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.720 think there was pivotal moments. And one other pivotal moment for me was this 157 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:46.159 was that one of my friends, her aunt, was dying from lung cancer 158 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.679 during this whole process of my injury, and she called me up and said, 159 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:54.159 well, you know, do you want to come say goodbye? She's 160 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.759 you know, she's passing. And so she called me. She came and 161 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:01.960 picked me up and I went and as I saw her, she was, 162 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.399 you know, in hospice, and she was in and out of consciousness and 163 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:07.879 she had been that way for a few months, you know, in and 164 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.639 out of consciousness a lot, and in this just deep, you know state, 165 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:15.399 and she had been doing all the positive thinking and the meditations and all 166 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.679 of the things also, and it hit me as I said bye, I 167 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:20.919 said, you know, it just it made me realize, you know, 168 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.799 that's kind of what I looked like, because I was laying there in meditation 169 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:30.440 and visualization and positive like just trying to you know, data state, just 170 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.000 trying to get my body to heal itself. And it made me just think, 171 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:35.759 you know, I have to understand this, and so I started simplifying 172 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:43.039 everything and there were key breakthroughs and one of them was this. It was 173 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.080 looking at the awareness that we've all heard, you know, stress effects the 174 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:50.559 physical body. We've heard that, we all know that, but if I 175 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.720 looked at it objectively, I could also see that there were people who are 176 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:58.519 very stressed, even had PTSD and trauma who weren't sick, and there were 177 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:05.240 also people who were retired who could be very sick. And what I began 178 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:11.480 to then figure out was it was a certain combination of emotions was the key. 179 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:16.159 And so that was pivotal and it was like an easy way to think 180 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.679 about it is, you know, if somebody wants to make cake and you 181 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:20.120 have flour, you can't make cake. But if you have flower and you 182 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.000 mix it with other ingredients, then you can have cake. And if you 183 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.360 mix different ingredients, then you have different recipes. And so that was key 184 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.320 and understanding also the different emotions affect the body differently, just simplifying and saying, 185 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.240 okay, well, if somebody's embarrassed, their face turns red. We 186 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.360 know that emojis, know that on our cell phones, we've got that, 187 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:41.519 you know, a panic attack, racing heart, shortness of breath, sexual 188 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:46.879 thoughts, sexual physical response, and so we can see different emotions affect the 189 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.440 body differently, and so it was really about putting that combination together and understanding 190 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.840 that there are combinations of emotions and then the specific emotions, and that was 191 00:13:54.879 --> 00:14:00.600 the key to creating radical results. So the emotions is what makes it makes 192 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:05.360 a difference. You can that he's getting emotional about cake. Now, I 193 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:09.039 mean I was getting excited. Honestly, you talk about cake and I am 194 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.279 all in. That's all I'm saying. Is good for your health also, 195 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:18.279 and so it was optimism and so I didn't know the cake part. How 196 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:22.000 could you're not? Do you not see me? Look at me? I 197 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:28.440 do not look like a guy that loves cake. Well, okay, so 198 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.600 we have actually heard that that the emotions are the trigger to a lot of 199 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:39.360 things, and belief by itself doesn't necessarily initiate change, but perhaps belief with 200 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:45.200 emotions connected might actually be Ian were talking manifest manifestation. The emotions are the 201 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.399 key that makes it, the triggers to bring it to you, right, 202 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.399 is that when you're going well yeah, I mean, but we could look 203 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:58.559 with so much with emotions because emotions there's a biochemical response. Also, emotions 204 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:03.720 shift are energy, and prior to my research, I thought energy was just 205 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:09.559 a woo woo thing. Turns out the person who medically discovered energy was actually 206 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:15.159 nominated for a Nobel prize eleven times and one in Russia. And most people 207 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:18.159 don't realize it, and they still think that energy is just woo woo. 208 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:24.279 Yeah, really really, well, okay, we're going to talk off flanks 209 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:26.480 and they know who this person is and waiting. We'll look into it. 210 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.480 But anyway, so, yes, I can hear that. A lot of 211 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:33.679 pragmatists believe that. I mean, it's been shown in many different research experiments 212 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:39.480 that that energy is is real. But I think what you're talking about is 213 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:46.600 the energy that can heal. That is a little woo okay, So but 214 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.360 I mean it's maybe all the same thing. I mean, not like I 215 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.399 mean, obviously there's like an ATP type of energy, like a carb up 216 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:58.279 type of energy, but energy. So it's like this, so light energy 217 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:04.639 from the body. So Alexander Gerswich medical scientists one hundred years ago nineteen twenties 218 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:11.600 discovered that our bodies emit biophotons light energy. Now technically speaking, at the 219 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.279 time he referred to it as mitogenetic radiation. We could geek out and call 220 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:18.879 that, but either way, it's biophotons. And a simple way to think 221 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:22.799 about it is, if we think about a light bulb, it emits particles 222 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.759 of light, which are photons. The sun emits particles of light photons, 223 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:33.240 Our bodies or any biological organism emits biophotons, so little particles of light, 224 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:37.840 and they're very faint, but the emit particles of light. Now what's really 225 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.799 cool about these particles of light if we geek out a little bit, one 226 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:45.840 of the cool things is that they can influence cellular proliferation and so like cell 227 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:48.840 growth and division. And a simple way to think about cell growth and division 228 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.960 is if we think about dish soap and we pour water on dish soap and 229 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:56.720 the bubbles it deliberates, so cell growth division. So this light energy can 230 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:03.759 influence that. Or even the fact that research has shown that different illnesses emit 231 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:08.519 different biophotons. Now what's also cool is this there is a database. So 232 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:14.720 fast forward, so Alexander Gerswitz was nineteen twenties, fast forward to current day. 233 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:19.559 There is a database that is under the NASA agreement that is maintained by 234 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:27.480 the Smithsonian and Harvard so ads astro Physicist Database Astrophysics database that is maintained by 235 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:33.440 Harvard and the Smithsonian and has current day research studies on biophotons is recent as 236 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:40.480 last couple of weeks, so we know these biophotons have been proven. There's 237 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:45.720 research and So what's amazing is that they I mean, so many things I 238 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.880 could geek out on them forever, But one thing is really cool, is 239 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:53.599 it. Research suggests that they communicate homeostasis. Research also shows that suggests they 240 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:56.880 communicate information throughout the body. Now, some people might say, wait a 241 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:03.279 second, how does light and energy communicate information throughout the body? And then 242 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:10.240 if we look at Wi Fi fiber optics, there's all light energy that's exactly 243 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:12.559 where it's going to go exactly. You get your cable TV right now with 244 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:18.119 light with fiber optic cables. So yeah, it carries a lot of information, 245 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:22.319 there's no doubt about that. To put that into the framework of a 246 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.799 body, a human body, however, that's a lot more difficult to wrap 247 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:33.599 your head around because it's a bio product. It's not necessarily a I don't 248 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:37.359 know, I'm just second guessing myself. Because it is in natural occurrence, 249 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:40.599 is light and the bodies. That is an organic organism, so that would 250 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:45.799 make sense. Just sometimes it's so hard to think about these things occurring naturally, 251 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.440 you know, because we're so used to everything being fed to as this 252 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:49.599 was created, this was made, This is from this computer lab, This 253 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:52.279 is from this, So that's easy to believe. But when you think about 254 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:56.079 it occurring naturally or something within your body just for some reason, now it's 255 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:00.079 like, oh really, how's that possible? Okay, all right, so 256 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.559 we follow you wait a second. Okay, so but auras like, if 257 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:08.559 we think about light energy, so I mean that's energy from the light energy, 258 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:11.960 so, or if we think about halos. So the amazing thing is 259 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:18.200 is this is all kind of shown throughout history angels with the halos, and 260 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.680 so yeah, we emit light energy. And by the way, like I've 261 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.400 been in these, to test them, you have to go into a completely 262 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:32.599 dark room because the light energy is so faint, so it looks like going 263 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:36.599 into a freezer or a vault, like a huge vault lower they shut and 264 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:41.880 you go into this completely pitch black room and then they can test biophotons that 265 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:45.720 come up with your body. Okay, that's kind of cool. That is 266 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:52.119 kind of cool, all right, yes, cool? Okay, So biophotons 267 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:56.079 and how does that relate to easing pain? In twenty eight minutes? Okay, 268 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.440 so well you were we were talking about photon emotions. We were talking 269 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:04.640 about emotions and how emotions can create all kinds of changes. Well, they 270 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:11.200 can change our biochemistry, but they can also change our biophotons. So there's 271 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:15.240 research studies that show like, if somebody is experiencing anger, then they can 272 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:22.039 increase biophoton emissions. Or visualizing white light, it can create increased biophotons out 273 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:22.920 of the right side of the head, but not the left. So there's 274 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.640 all of these things. So our minds, there's a direct correlation between EEG 275 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:34.240 and biophoton emissions. Our minds, our emotions change the emissions. That it's 276 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:38.559 incredible. And so the problem is, of course, there is a lot 277 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:45.440 of medical research is done on cadavers which don't emit any like as in fact 278 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:49.960 that you might like absorb the light. Have you seen them cadaver? I 279 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:53.319 have not actually seen a good never And you know, I somehow miss lack 280 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:57.559 the desire to see a cadaver. So like, what if it's like a 281 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:04.200 loved one in a casket that considered that's a cadaver. That is a cadapor. 282 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:11.759 This whole conversation went darkhot. That was not me this time, that 283 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:18.920 was not me. I feel like it was will it was extra We talked 284 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:22.640 about this. You will not gang up on will very smart, very smart. 285 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:26.599 He is very smart, and I think we figured out it was well, 286 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:30.680 okay, so this is not fair. I don't like this at all. 287 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.079 All right, hang on, just for that, we're going to take 288 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:36.559 a break. Right We're going to continue the conversation on the other side of 289 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:38.839 this break because we've got a lot more I still need to understand exactly how 290 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:41.960 this works. So stay with us because you don't want to miss the end 291 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:47.519 of this conversation, because Brandy is going to tell us exactly how this works 292 00:21:48.119 --> 00:22:03.359 right after these messages stick around. Guess what time it is. Yep, 293 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:07.680 you guessed it. Five star review time. This time is from Maria alusik 294 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:11.880 al USI K Maria, I'm so sorry if I mispronounced your last name. 295 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:18.000 The subject of the review is hello from New Jersey. Well Hello, Maria 296 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:21.799 goes on to say, I somehow stumbled upon your podcasts a few months ago, 297 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:25.960 and since then I am obsessed. I love the variety of topics and 298 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:29.559 guests you choose to bring in. Each one of them is equally interesting, 299 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:33.799 informative, and entertaining. Your positive vibes and virtual smiles make my day every 300 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:37.359 time I listen to you. Please don't stop, and then sends a kissing 301 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:42.319 a hug. Maria, We have no intention of stopping anytime soon, so 302 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:47.799 thank you for taking the time to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. 303 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:49.759 It really goes a long way towards providing social proof that the show is actually 304 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:55.960 kind of cool and can maybe help some folks to get to really understand that 305 00:22:55.960 --> 00:23:00.160 they are more than just this three dimensional body that we inhabit. And to 306 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.359 hear your review right on the air, Just go to Apple Podcasts and leave 307 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.400 us a review there, or go to Skeptical and a Physician, where you 308 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:08.880 can leave us a voicemail, a review, or an email directly from the 309 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:11.640 site. All right, Maria, once again, thank you so much for 310 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.799 sending us a review. You've made our day. And now let's get back 311 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:22.920 to the show. Welcome back to the skeptic position. We're talking to Brandy 312 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.279 Gilmour, who is absolutely blowing our mind in so many different ways. But 313 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:32.359 we're mad at her because she is mad. Yes, she's sticking with you 314 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:36.599 to make you're mad. Not where there's weed. Well, I'm a gemini, 315 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:41.240 so I qualify as a way, and we were I thought you just 316 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:44.839 wanted me to call you like the royal We we are mad at Brandy. 317 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:48.359 I mean I wouldn't be against that either. It's not happening, all right, 318 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.680 listen, So I want to talk about what Brandy does. She's actually 319 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:56.279 here to talk to us about how she was able to get beyond the chronic 320 00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:02.839 pain after a horrific accident that she had, and she has now proven or 321 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:08.920 shown research that has shown that you can actually relieve chronic pain in twenty eight 322 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:11.720 minutes or less. And I am so excited to learn about this because I 323 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:17.240 have been in pain for how many years now, like four maybe at least 324 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:21.759 at least four. So okay, and I don't expect you to give away 325 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:23.599 all the secrets, because we do want people to pick up your book to 326 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:27.680 get most of those. However, I really need to know. Okay. 327 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:33.759 We were talking about biophotons and how we emit light and how you're going to 328 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:38.680 connect that with emotions in belief, and how does you're mixing this wonderful cocktail. 329 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:42.799 But now now I need to take a sip, so go ahead, 330 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:52.720 okay, So I have a question, Uh, oh, do you want 331 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:55.799 me to show you? Do you want to would you like to do that? 332 00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:56.759 We could do that, I mean, or we could not. I 333 00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:59.880 don't want to put you on the spot. No, put me on the 334 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:04.839 spot. I will be on the spot spot. Okay, great, let's 335 00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:07.599 do it, all right, let's do it. So we don't we don't 336 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:10.240 have twenty eight minutes, can you do it? No? No, we 337 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:15.200 can do a lot faster than that of pain. Now, and there was 338 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:17.440 somebody else in the study. There's only twenty two minutes. But no, 339 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:22.799 I I I've been achiever under five. I think we could do it under 340 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.200 five. All right, all right, I'm looking forward to seeing this. 341 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:29.799 Let's go, let's do it, all right. So where's your pain? 342 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:36.519 It's hips, hips and back? Okay, so binger, all right, 343 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:40.599 so give me one second, all right. So I'm just going to check 344 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:45.599 into your energy real quick. All right, So give me one second, 345 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:59.160 give me one second, all right? So binga, bing okay, So 346 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:03.799 if I ask you, if I ask you to notice, can you find 347 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:08.279 the feeling of feeling like if everybody else isn't happy already, that you have 348 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:14.759 a hard time being happy or doing things for yourself? Bingo? Is that 349 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:19.079 what you said? Bingo? A little bit of an mpath? Okay? 350 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:23.400 So, uh, bingo. All right, So if I ask you, 351 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:32.200 so there's a bingo. Okay, so zero to ten, how much can 352 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:34.160 you find the feeling of guilt for doing things for yourself? Zero to ten? 353 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:38.839 How much can you find that feeling? About forty three? To go 354 00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:42.480 with twelve? But years was bingo? So go ahead and ask you to 355 00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:47.119 breathe. Okay, So, and I'm gonna push a little bit. Okay, 356 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:51.319 wouldn't it be great if your daughter grew up feeling that way too, 357 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:53.839 like guilty for doing things for herself? That would be terrible. Okay, 358 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:56.160 that would be terrible. Quick, let's not do that. So instead, 359 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:02.039 how would you want her to feel? I want her to feel exactly as 360 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:03.839 perfect as she is. Great. So if I ask you right now, 361 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:08.279 by the way, zero to ten, what's your level of pain? That's 362 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.039 about a two. It's about a two. So I gon ask you just 363 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:15.519 for a moment to breathe, and I'm gonna ask you what it would feel 364 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.279 like to be able to do things for yourself without any guilt? Like? 365 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.240 What would that even feel like? What would it feel like to be able 366 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.039 to not only do things for yourself but role model for your daughter? That? 367 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.519 Hey, yet you can do things for yourself and and for the family, 368 00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.319 like and you can do things for yourself and you really can without feeling 369 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:38.039 guilt. Okay, after I stop crying, I will tell you, Oh, 370 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.400 that seems impossible to not fact. So I'm going to ask you to 371 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:48.519 breathe. Okay and so bingo. So I want you to think about exactly 372 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.000 that and doing things for yourself. No guilt, no, none at all, 373 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.160 none at all. That you actually you're role modeling that you feel great 374 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.599 about that it's an amazing feeling. So I'm gonna ask you to breathe zero 375 00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:03.960 at a ten. What's your level of pain? Still about two? Okay? 376 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.519 Bina? Okay. There's also this feeling of uh, there's a trigger 377 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.440 to the word selfish. Are you familiar with that, like, if you 378 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:19.440 do, it'll be selfish? Can you find that feeling? And if not, 379 00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:23.359 that's okay? Yeah, I guess I've never I don't really think of 380 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:27.920 the word selfish. I just think of like, for example, my daughter 381 00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:33.400 is more important. Okay, your sleep is more important than mine. Okay, 382 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.160 yes, everybody is more that makes sense. Everybody is more important than 383 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.279 you. And it's gonna be so great when your daughter grows up and models 384 00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:44.319 that thing with your family, right, I mean I kind of fake it 385 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.160 in front of her a little bit. Okay, that thinks she realizes. 386 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:48.119 I mean, I don't know. Okay. So I'm gonna ask you just 387 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:52.640 for a moment to breath. Be terrible inside inside, no guilt at all, 388 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:59.240 no feeling bad about doing things for yourself at all, Bina, And 389 00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:15.960 I'm gonna ask you to breathe. I came untteached. Yeah check check hello 390 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.039 hello. Okay, see that's how guilty. I feel like I ripped the 391 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:23.839 micace. Reinforce it though, don't reinforce it. I know it's a joke, 392 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.799 but you can't. It'll it'll, it'll undo the direction of it. 393 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.640 Okay, Bingo. So if I ask you, are you allowed to be 394 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:38.079 happy? Yes? Sam, one hundred percent. Yeah. No guilt for 395 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.839 being happy? Now great? And are you allowed to do things for yourself? 396 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.720 I'm allowed? Great. So if I ask you to breathe and zero 397 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.359 to ten, bingo, how much you have a belief in self sacrifice? 398 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.680 What would you say? Okay, are you willing to change that? I 399 00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:00.279 saw your eyes very big, So now, okay, are you willing to 400 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.079 change that? Bingo? So I'm gonna ask you, just for a moment, 401 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.000 to breathe. Are you willing to change? Honestly, like real change? 402 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.240 I would like to ask you to breathe. So are you willing to? 403 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:17.160 Are you willing to? Are you willing to? So I'm gonna ask 404 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.920 you to breathe. Are you willing to? Are you willing to feel supported? 405 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.920 Are you willing to feel supported too? So you guys are supporting each 406 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.920 other, and you're willing to feel supported? And I know it wills already 407 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:33.119 supports you. But taking in that feeling that you don't have to sacrifice yourself, 408 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.559 just the feeling, even if it's just a feeling shift bingo. And 409 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.240 I'm gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. And I want you to notice 410 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.160 the level of pain here to ten? What's your level? Go about a 411 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.640 one bingo? That's what I say, is about a bingo? That's what 412 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.759 I have, is about a one point one right there? And uh bingo. 413 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.680 So I'm gonna ask you to breathe. And I'm gonna ask you to 414 00:30:55.720 --> 00:31:00.519 see yourself walking around feeling like you're important. Of course, your husband's important, 415 00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.119 of course, your daughter is important. And I'm gonna ask you to 416 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.559 breathe, and you don't feel any guilt. You don't feel any guilt for 417 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.599 feeling happy, You don't feel any guilt for doing things for yourself and doing 418 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:15.359 things for them. You feel supported, you feel great, You're supporting them, 419 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.759 they're supporting you. It feels like just this power family and couple and 420 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.160 it's incredible. And I'm gonna ask you to breathe, and you feel very 421 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.480 very very supported and you feel happy, bingo, And I'm gonna ask you 422 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:32.440 to breathe, and notice your level of pains here at a ten, like 423 00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.160 maybe a half. That's what I would say, is about a being. 424 00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:37.599 That's what I have is about a point six. And so that's ultimately what 425 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.640 you want to do is just bring that. So that's what the connector is, 426 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:47.240 is not feeling guilt and all of that. So that was incredible to 427 00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:52.319 watch and here and listen to. And I have insight. I mean, 428 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.359 I've always known that you are, but so can you connect a dots with 429 00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.240 me with the biophotons and what you just did, because I can tell what 430 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:05.599 you're trying to manipulate, not manipulating, but you are revealing emotions that are 431 00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.319 trapped inside of her that maybe she was aware of but wasn't completely in touch 432 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:13.079 with. You brought them to the surface and tried to get them to be 433 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.480 released. But how does that What does that have to do with biophotons? 434 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.359 Okay, so a few things. Okay, So what does that have to 435 00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.839 do with the biophoto Okay? So it depends on how simple or complex you 436 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:28.680 want to make it. But I would say this, I would Okay, 437 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:35.440 so I'll always try to simplify everything. So I think the let's go with 438 00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.680 the first first way to unpack this, it would maybe be this would be 439 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:43.839 noticed there was a combination of emotions, so there was a couple different pieces, 440 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:49.400 the guilt, the emotion. So I would say that. I would 441 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:53.319 say that our bodies, our biophotons are communicating information throughout the body. So 442 00:32:53.359 --> 00:33:00.200 I would say that everything is communicated throughout the body. That's another thing I 443 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.319 would say. There's also this A simpler way to put it is like this 444 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.480 is if we think about if we think about the brain body connection and we 445 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:13.160 just think about somebody. Let's say there's somebody who has a stroke. A 446 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.559 right brain stroke can affect the body on the left side. A left brain 447 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.400 stroke can affect a body on the right side, right, And so I 448 00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:23.000 would say that any emotional activity that we feel in the mind, not only 449 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:27.279 can it generate activity, biophoton emissions, all of that, but I would 450 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:34.119 say that there's the brain body connection and ultimately to create healing in the body, 451 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.440 that we need to transform that. Now, that's the simple way to 452 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.920 put it, because there's a communication that goes throughout our body too, And 453 00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:45.200 a simple way to look at and observe the communication is like this is if 454 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:50.880 we think that to the placebo. One person can take the fake pill and 455 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:52.799 they're told that it's going to help their blood pressure, and it can. 456 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:58.440 And another person can take the fake same fake pill, a different one but 457 00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.680 the same type, but not the same one. That would be weird, 458 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:08.840 but the babybird, and then it would be nice. So not the baby 459 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:15.920 bird, but they can take the same bill and told that it's going to 460 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:20.079 help their symptoms with IBS, and it can. And so if you think 461 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:23.519 about it, clearly there's a communication going on. And that was something that 462 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:28.480 I had wondered during my injuries. How is this communicating information? And not 463 00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:30.239 only that, but then I was able to check in with her body through 464 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:36.360 a form of communication, so getting information. So that's a whole other thing 465 00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:38.559 too, right, And that was something that was not expecting for you. 466 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:44.519 I totally thought you were totally in the sci scientific realm, and you are, 467 00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:49.079 but you're also way beyond that, and that's freaking amazing to right, 468 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.960 And it was a complete surprise to me. So it made it even better. 469 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.480 So I love that I did. I did kind of mention that I 470 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:59.039 channeled information, but I think you probably thought I was joking. I didn't 471 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:04.119 think you were joking at thought you were just channeling information in a different way. 472 00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.840 Okay, I get it, I get it, I get it. 473 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.159 And that's the thing. Like, so I went from like network engineering and 474 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:14.599 operations and all of the technical stuff, so medical journals were all my thing, 475 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.599 and then I healed myself and then my brain opened up with this whole 476 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:23.280 thing, and that was a whole and then the biophotons things. I mean, 477 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:27.559 that's kind of where the thermal imaging comes in, because you have actually 478 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:32.320 shown this to be absolutely without a shadow of a doubt by thermal imaging. 479 00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.360 What did you find when you captured that those images? Absolutely? And so 480 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.480 I would say a simple way to think about thermal imaging, because this is 481 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:44.960 what happens is to kind of put a nuts put it all in a nutshell. 482 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:46.360 After I yield myself, I thought people are going to think this is 483 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:52.119 crazy. So then I started showing them how to release pain, and then 484 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.559 I would and then I thought, well, I have to show it under 485 00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:58.599 medical equipment because people are going to think somebody like Karen is faking it. 486 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:00.119 You look at Karen, think she's go or just she can't be in pain. 487 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:05.519 She looks fantastic and she's you know. And then so I started taking 488 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.679 volunteers from the audience and that's but that's what I would do. And I 489 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.039 thought people are gonna think, oh, I have neck pain, like they're 490 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.800 faking it or something. So I had to show it under medical equipment, 491 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:20.400 especially because I was world's biggest skeptic, and so I would think personally, 492 00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.760 if somebody said, oh wow, my pain is gone, that it's not 493 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:30.079 real. So medical thermal imaging a simple way to understand it is like this 494 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:34.039 is, if we have an infection or sprained ankle or an injury, it 495 00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.599 emits heat from the body and so we can feel sometimes if we put our 496 00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.679 hand over some type of injury, you can feel heat radiating from it, 497 00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:46.119 and medical thermal imaging detects that at a very advanced level. And so what 498 00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:50.519 I've been able to do with that is I'll take somebody who has maybe neck 499 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.960 pain, and then under the skin you'll see or hip in, back pain 500 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:57.199 or whatever type of pain, and you'll be able to see on the scan 501 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:01.519 all the heat generating from that illness or pain. And then I'll show people 502 00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:05.199 how to use their mind to release it, and you'll see the scin in 503 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.199 real time turn green. And do I do want to say, though it 504 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.679 is, it's incredible, but I do want to say, you know, 505 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:15.159 obviously we did some with yours, you really need to follow through all of 506 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:19.960 the way. And so I always tell people with the disclaimer I make it 507 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:24.239 look ridiculously easy. It does take a real transformation, I'm sure. And 508 00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.079 that was going to be my next question, but I'm going to let you 509 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:32.599 ask the question I was going to ask, so something like that, is 510 00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:37.400 it something that you have to continually do now for you or is your pain 511 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.840 gone, You've changed your I don't know, mindset belief and you're done, 512 00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:44.960 or do you have to kind of give yourch itself a refresher every once in 513 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.559 a while, I am a different person, Like I haven't had to refresh 514 00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:53.119 or fix my mind programming for fourteen years. Now, Wow, how do 515 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:59.119 you? How did you learn to do this? I geeked out on all 516 00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:01.599 of the did at first? I did all of the wrong things, and 517 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:08.760 then started from that doing the right things. I think understanding that the combination 518 00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:14.880 of emotions was key. That was something understanding also, so we want to 519 00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:19.480 go deeper into patterns. Also, so understanding the consciousness of emotions, understanding 520 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:23.519 the emotions have patterns to them and also control our consciousness. And so it 521 00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:28.960 was also you know, thinking about like if we look at we know that 522 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:31.159 patterns breed more of the same. We could look at repetition, compulsion or 523 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:36.840 law of attraction or reenactments or attachment theory or revictimization, whatever we want to 524 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.800 call it, we can see in psychology we can see that our patterns breed 525 00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:44.239 more of the same, or another way to put it is kind of like 526 00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:49.519 this is we've all heard, simply unfortunately that a woman may have an abusive 527 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.639 father and leave him and find the abusive boyfriend, boss, spouse, et 528 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.920 cetera, et cetera. So not only do we have emotional patterns, but 529 00:38:54.960 --> 00:39:00.360 we can also have patterns of manifesting and so basic what I began to do 530 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:07.119 is look at different combination of emotions, understand them, understand how they worked, 531 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.239 and then understand what I needed to do to heal myself. And then 532 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.679 this all opened up. That's fantastic, and it's just so true how much 533 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:22.320 your emotions can affect you. Like sometimes so I'd love to laugh, have 534 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:24.920 a lot of fun, and sometimes I couldn't know right, I'll be driving 535 00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:30.960 in the car and I'll just write that, well, oh, and I'll 536 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.960 just just say I want to feel joy, and I'll fixate on just feeling 537 00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.719 joy, and to the point where I can feel it under my skin. 538 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:38.599 I feel the hairs on the top of it's like bubbles. My whole body 539 00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:42.679 will start to feel like bubbles. Like I just, yeah, I just 540 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:47.800 never thought about actually using that and kind of harnessing that power. That's exactly 541 00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:51.559 it. And when you think about it for a moment, we've all heard 542 00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.119 stress effects the physical body, but when we really think about it, you 543 00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:59.599 know, if we look at individual research, I mean, there's studies from 544 00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:05.719 Harvard to suggests that stress can even cause autoimmune conditions, or even if we 545 00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:10.840 think about optimism, the simple awareness of optimism. Yeah yeah, in this 546 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:16.000 space he already talks about gratitude and hope. Gratitude is a little tricky. 547 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:21.199 Oh well, that's not what we've heard, Brandy. So let's not burst 548 00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:23.079 our bubble. Okay, I want to hear. Okay, go ahead, 549 00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:27.599 burst it a little bit, but just a little bit. Let's pretend like 550 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:31.840 somebody has a pattern of guilt for doing things for themselves and then they bring 551 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:37.800 in a bunch of gratitude. Does it help them or does it trigger them? 552 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:49.239 Helps them? I just wanted to answer first. I don't know. 553 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.239 I think it helps Like I guess I could go either way, but I 554 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.199 think it helps me. Well, I see Brandon's point, because then you're 555 00:40:54.239 --> 00:41:00.159 being grateful for something that you aren't enjoying or living full. No, but 556 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.639 it's like if you feel like you should be punished, if you feel like 557 00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:09.880 you're guilty, if you feel like you don't deserve is it had to say 558 00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:14.800 Sometimes I'm grateful that things aren't worse, Like with my back aches, I'm 559 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.599 like I got on my limbs, you know, like I actually think that 560 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:25.159 is that sometimes sometimes gratitude can be a slippery slope because if a person is 561 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:32.559 feeling guilty or undeserving or bad about receiving, it can actually be force. 562 00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.719 Think about it logically, if we just were to think about it logically. 563 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.480 I mean, let's say somebody's feeling guilty for doing things for themselves and they're 564 00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:44.760 feeling bad and that is their core, and then they go, Okay, 565 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:46.519 well I'm so grateful for this. I'm so grateful for this. Does it 566 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:51.960 help her as a trigger? And my experience it can trigger. Oh, 567 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.400 that's an interesting perspective that we've not heard before. So that's that's I mean, 568 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:59.880 it makes perfect sense. It makes sense. But it obviously does not 569 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.639 stay away from gratitude. It means feel deserving, it means get rid of 570 00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:07.239 guilt. It doesn't like we and and so I mean even in my TED 571 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.760 talk, I talk about bringing feelings of gratitude, but then afterwards I follow 572 00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:15.440 it. I carefully did follow it with confidence because if people feel confidence, 573 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.920 usually there's a sense of deserving with that. So I combine those two on 574 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.840 purpose. So people go, I said, you know, feel a sense 575 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.360 of confidence, feeling good, about yourself because then there's that that helps. 576 00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:30.519 So so it's not don't feel gratitude, it's just become aware of we have 577 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.440 to be real with what's real. And I think everybody tries to put like 578 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.679 a band aid on something and they say, well, just think positive and 579 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:42.320 just do And there's just more to it in my experience for healing, and 580 00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.360 the mind works a little bit different sometimes than people might think. But but 581 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:49.519 you mentioned joy and that, but that's exactly it. We want to bring 582 00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.199 in joy and that's part of the process that I teach is exactly that is 583 00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:59.280 that that punishment patterns can mess us up. Or even another emotional ingredient, 584 00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.119 if you will, is if somebody has been ill for a long period of 585 00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:07.840 time or has a parent who's ill, then in their self image, they 586 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.039 can see themselves as being an ill person and then their body will want to 587 00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.440 create, recreate. And so there's when I said there's an emotion likes cake, 588 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:17.679 I mean a disappointed will here we're not talking about real cake, but 589 00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:27.159 I'll take pie. Okay, Okay, I like pie better than Yeah, 590 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:32.000 we could do that, okay, but yeah, so it's the combination is 591 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:37.840 key. So yeah, it's and then ultimately getting rid of the pattern itself. 592 00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:44.000 So the pattern is really key. Okay, yeah, those patterns, 593 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.679 man, they will, yeah, they will, Yeah, they will. 594 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:52.639 So like if let's say, maybe this feeling of self sacrifice or guilt or 595 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:58.119 putting somebody last. Let's say, for example, let's say for with Karen, 596 00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:02.440 Let's say it started at age eight. Oh, dang, I thought 597 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:09.559 that you are scary. Scary, We'll go with your seven. But yeah, 598 00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:14.400 right in there, right, so yep, So that then it becomes 599 00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.079 a pattern. Now part of what I had from my own injury. I 600 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:21.840 had a feeling a pattern of survivors guilt, and that was part of my 601 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.840 ingredients from nine to eleven. The events of nine to eleven kind of messed 602 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.440 me up, but I didn't realize it because I didn't even know. When 603 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.440 I worked in technology, I had no idea I even had emotions. You 604 00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:35.000 were you there? No, But I was on the phone with people. 605 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.800 So that's exactly what I thought. I would have never thought, because that's 606 00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:43.119 what I would have said. I wasn't even there. But I worked in 607 00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:46.840 network engineering operations at the time, and my shift in California was five to 608 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:50.880 two, so I was five am to two pm. So I was on 609 00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.239 the phone and then I had a colleague, you know, yelling like help 610 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.800 me and help me out. Oh my god. You know, that's really 611 00:44:55.840 --> 00:45:00.280 interesting you mentioned that because I was I work in television and at the time 612 00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:05.480 of the Towers, I actually was in a control room for a newscast as 613 00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:09.639 an assistant director as the plans were hitting, and I was privy to a 614 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:14.800 lot of footage that was never released because it was too graphic of people taking 615 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:16.519 things into their own hands, let's just put it that way. And it 616 00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:22.559 was really difficult and I had never connected that with anything, but maybe I 617 00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.239 need to look at it, because at the time it was very It impacted 618 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:28.440 me in a big way. At the time, I wasn't even there. 619 00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:32.000 I was in Florida, but still I was privy to a lot of stuff 620 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:37.239 that I wasn't happy about. So that's an interesting interestant connection. So interesting 621 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:42.719 connection on top of that is that in connection with that is that that's exactly 622 00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.400 so in telecommunications, we had to no current events. So I sat at 623 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:49.360 my desk and even after the colleagues had helped me, help me, and 624 00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.119 then the phone went dead and it was like I just wanted to help. 625 00:45:52.800 --> 00:46:00.880 But then after that all we had televisions on every pillar in the the uh 626 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.800 in around my desk, So then I was watching the footage over and over 627 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:08.000 and over out of the out of my peripheral vision. And then not only 628 00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:09.880 that, but then I don't know if you remember, like there was like 629 00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:15.320 the red and the orange zone and all of that on if we're in terest, 630 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.559 And so my brain linked up that we were going to die, and 631 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:21.079 I had the survivor's guilt and all this, and I didn't even know I 632 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.679 had emotions about it. I and me. I wanted to die to save 633 00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:28.840 others, and I was more concerned about others, But that all got linked 634 00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:31.400 up in my head. That's that's amazing how our mind does things like that 635 00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:35.519 for you. But we are like, I don't want to I don't want 636 00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:37.679 to stop talking to you. You are so much fun to talk to and 637 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.519 I think we could talk to you for days. But I definitely want to 638 00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:45.920 make sure we talk about your book, because to put the connect the dots 639 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.639 here, we not everybody who reads your book is going to be able to 640 00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:53.079 have you here to do what you did with Karen just now, So does 641 00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:59.400 your book teach someone how to do what you just did it. I mean, 642 00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.519 not the being go part, but maybe because the thing of it is 643 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:06.880 this. I didn't say, hey, I want to play bingo with myself 644 00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:09.480 all day like that did not. Actually when this started coming through, I 645 00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:14.920 really said, Okay, this is weird. But I guess at least it's 646 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:20.079 not yatzi. That's what happened. I mean, bingo yatzi is all the 647 00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.880 same, but you just yell it out when you win. Yees. So 648 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.639 I'm like winning all day but that but that, yeah, it does. 649 00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:34.000 It helps people to create radical changes, even like people on reviews have already 650 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.400 been saying, oh my gosh, I'm getting out of a pain cycle. 651 00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:38.679 Now I understand how to do it. So what's really fun about my book 652 00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:44.400 is that it outlines the science behind it and you just look at it and 653 00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.599 it makes sense. Like so, one thing is really great is you know, 654 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.920 I've had people that have been trying to study and heal themselves for ten, 655 00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:53.519 twenty thirty years, forty years, and they read it and they go, 656 00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:57.719 oh my gosh, mind body healing. Now it makes logical sense. 657 00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:01.280 So that's part one, and then part two is the Gift Method and it's 658 00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:06.199 exactly it's how to work with your mind and heal your body, and it 659 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:10.440 takes somebody step by step through the process. Wow. Well, I'm obviously 660 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:16.599 good to buy the book because this is fascinating and it's so far right up 661 00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:22.559 my alley. As a pragmatist, I've always you always find try to find 662 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:25.840 ways to wrap your head around the esoteric. And what you're talking about, 663 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.480 I think is that's key. I mean, that's that sounds like it's like 664 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:35.960 I'm clicking for you totally. I mean it's clicking, but it's clicking in 665 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.719 a way that makes me want to know more. Yeah. So if someone 666 00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:43.760 wanted to reach out to you or to get your book, what's the best 667 00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:47.639 way for someone to do that. My book is in bookstores or Amazon or 668 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:52.800 Barnes and Noble anywhere books are sold, and on my website Brandy Gilmore dot 669 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:58.880 com. The fun thing is there's also a video under thermal imaging where it 670 00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:01.440 says, see live heal and you can see me actually working with somebody. 671 00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:05.679 I saw that when I was researching you. I saw that it was really 672 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:07.639 actually very cool. Your ted targ is also there, which is really cool. 673 00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:12.760 And we're going to add a link in our show notes to your website 674 00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:15.199 and to the book that it's called Master Your Mind and Energy to Heal Your 675 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:21.280 Body. And I cannot wait to get my hands on it. Your website 676 00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:22.920 has so much information on it. I get to read it first, though, 677 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.760 because I have the pain. But no, I called it first. 678 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:31.360 I called it first. It's like I called shotgun. I'm sorry, Mother's 679 00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:37.159 Day is coming up, But that's not that you can't pull the Mother's Day 680 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.639 card. That's so wrong. That's so wrong. Oh all right, we 681 00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:45.400 need to get two copies. You know, he was sitting here being so 682 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.199 sweet and nice. I was literally thinking to myself, I thought we were 683 00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:50.800 supposed to gang up on him, and he's making it hard. He's just 684 00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:55.400 being all nice. But now, but after the Mother's Day comments, I 685 00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:59.360 feel right. I feel like he kind of opened the door a little bit 686 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:02.400 there. Oh good lord. I don't want one step forward two steps back. 687 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.320 All right. I got to end this interview because I cannot. I 688 00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:15.679 cannot be gained up instead of just visiting. All right, once again, 689 00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:17.639 Randy, your book is called Master Your Mind and an Interview to Heal your 690 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:21.679 Body. We're going to add a link directly to your book and to your 691 00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:23.800 website on a show notes. So all you need to do is go to 692 00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:29.400 skepticmantaposition dot com and find your episode. You will see the links direct laid 693 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.480 indirectly there. So it's super easy to get in touch. Brandy, you 694 00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:36.400 and I and caring we're going to be talking a lot more because we got 695 00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.159 a lot more conversations to go beyond that. Definitely, I look forward to 696 00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:42.840 it. Cool. All right, Well, thanks so much for coming and 697 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.159 sharing of your expertise, and thank you, please please please stay in touch 698 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.159 absolutely, thank you so much for having me. You guys are so much 699 00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.760 fun. It's been such a pleasure. Likewise, thank you very much and 700 00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.920 a huge thank you to you. We know that there are tons of options 701 00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:59.920 out there, and having you decide to come along on our journey of just 702 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.000 argue with us is an absolute honor for us. If you know someone who 703 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.119 would benefit from hearing the message we're sharing on the show, do them and 704 00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:09.800 us a favor and share the show with them. It will help get the 705 00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:14.559 word out about us and they might just change someone's life for the better. 706 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.320 Well that's all for now. We will see you on the next episode of 707 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:21.760 The Skeptic Benephysician. Until then, take care