And we're back, so we're gonna do the two quick hit movie things just
because we are gonna tu about the Wolverine League last, just in case no
one wants to know any sort of details. Luckily, I don't think it's
any like massive story spoilers out there. But if you don't even want to
know, like certain characters and stuff, then you can skip ahead. But
if not too there will be a cutout on the main feed and on the
side quist feeds a look out for that. So these are things we have
got to talk about because this happened like like the day after two days after
the Game Awards. But A twenty four is making a death stranding movie,
so it's not the most time of thing, but I want to talk about
because like also don't have kirkl I don't think you ever beat it. But
you mean big death stranding fans. Yeah, like I said, not beater
of games, but no, yeah, buyer of lease. But yeah,
what do you think about this Sadeagajima team on A twenty four making a det
stranding movie. There's nothing about a director, there's nothing about like if it's
gonna be based off the game, just that that's happening. So when we're
you surprised that's a movie in two? What do you think about a twenty
fours dude that we love, we love seeing what they put out. What
do you think about them taking the reins on this one? Yeah, I
mean, I guess I not really that surprised. I mean, like,
Death Stranding has so many freaking cut scenes in it's such a story focused game,
and Kajima's talked about his love for movies and all these things, so
it doesn't shock me in this era where video game adaptations are happening left right
and center into the TV and movie realm of things. A twenty four that's
awesome. I think that's a great pairing. It's very fitting for what Death
Stranding is in terms of the weirdness of it, and so that makes me
excited, But in terms of the I don't know. I'm excited. I
can't wait to see what it is, but I just feel like there's no
way that they can live up to what the story and world of that game
is. In a movie, you need like three seasons of a TV like
that game is long. That is a long game. I just feel like
you're gonna have to cut a lot of stuff, make it a simplified version.
It can definitely work. You can make it more of a personal journey
and tone it down and whatnot. I don't know. I guess I just
love the game so much, and I know that it was like sixty hours
long. I just I don't know how you do that? Well, I
guess is there a chance they do that? Good old? It's in the
world of Death Stranding, and it is based in that world, but it's
not about it's not Sam Porter Bridges and it's not Mad's Michelson. Yeah.
Do you think that's a possibility in this scenario? Right? Because I was
thinking, Man, you just get Norman ritis play the character again. Mad's
Mark qual Man Marcot quality. Please get her in that project. She's so
good. Con O'Brien, make sure he's in there. Get going to get
Jeff Keey is in that game, right, so oh he can't wait.
He's like my big break coming. You know that there'll be a fifteen minute
spot in the next game or where he can Yeah, I get Garamo even
though it was like a different voice, right, yeah, get that same
voice action to do his voice again, you know. Yep. Troy Baker.
He's another one that's just like, oh my god, I get to
be in it. I would be down to see that too. Yeah,
so that's a good point. I guess I was under the impression that it
would be a retelling of the story, but I feel like the story that
was told would be hard to do because I feel like the interactive nature of
it and the spacing, the loneliness of it is so important, and I
just feel like maybe some of that stuff is hard to like. Even in
that game, the pacing is crazy. That you walk from the east coast
to the west coast or whatever it is like to do in a movie,
I think would come across as like really wonky. So I don't know.
I think that maybe is the route to go go do something else within that
world, and that that would just open cracks, it open a whole lot.
But then I think I actually am a lot less interested potential, Like
I'm interested that I'll still see this day when to watch every trailer and talk
about your own geek First, of course, but I love the characters in
that game, almost every single one of them. I really really enjoyed both
the performance and the story stuff going on, and the interactions between them and
all that. So yeah, I guess I feel very complent filmasone, as
you can tell Travis, I don't know. Yeah, I mean I'm interested,
but I can't say it was maybe my top pick for a movie,
a video game adaptation to a movie. And let's say they do just the
full on we're gonna do the story. Do you expect them to get the
original actors or do you expect them to get new people? Oh? Man,
I feel like it'd probably be hard to get every single one of them
back, just because of how scheduling works in the in the world. I
guess it depends how much of the crew they they decide to get, because
I Norman Retis would absolutely make it happen, and he would be like,
you gotta get him. You can't, you can't skip out on that.
I think Mads is a mus I think yeah, I think Mad is the
must, and I think it could happen as well easily. I think is
also a lock to who else are? I think LEAs too would be a
lot because Kajima and her are always like like they've been spawed together, not
like a People magazine, not like that. But there's many times of them
like hanging out like hanging out like I think their friends passed that or they
became friends from that experience. I think he was a big fan of her
work. They work together and they say in context, feel like there.
I feel like that trio is like that's your main cast. Yes, and
that gets the job then and then you know you can you could bring like
what was it the guy up in the mountains like hart Heart, Well,
there's die Hardman and there was Hartman. Yeah, I think Harman. Yet
that's the kind of character you where you cut ye die Hardman. I mean
I guess you need some like president or not president, but like government ye
people, And he was one of those main main guy. I really want
Mama in there though, I just want quality. That's the one I want
the most, you know see, And I think that's one I think you
can do the game. You just cut a lot of that stuff. I
think you gotta because the biggest thing about that is you got to have the
deaf stranding vibe. You've got to have that lost it to me this like
almost I don't think they would, but I feel like it requires to be
a three hour movie. You have to make it feel like you've been through
in the track like and for me, the best person that I want Directice.
I don't know, because my theory is always Kajem's gonna directed, because
we always say when Jem is gonna direct a movie. I could see this
being his first one and taking a chance, and especially because then if it
hits, it's his own project. He knows it, and that could be
big for him. But what I thought is like what I want for the
vibe and again you know, geek for Zaida and love it. It pained
me, but I want David Lowry to direct it. He's the guy that
green night, that slow pace of gui gin like walking through hot like hiking
the mountains, trying to get to his end point seeing a big giant Like
I think that just kind of lull in that slow, monotonous pace in a
good way is what this needs, because you need to get that sense of
dread when you're hiking. So that's why I think that they'd cut Mama,
they'd cut Hartman. I think they'd keep the government stuff, they'd keep the
mom's storyline, and they'd keep Mickelson, and I think that they'd streamline just
those really main and like what's her name? Amelia? Right, I feel
like you need to have She was like, she doesn't need to be in
the movie very much, but I think you gotta have her in there.
Why am I friging about me? It was like the red dress, like
the long blonde hair. She's not really like you see at the very getting
and then the end, I think she tied to like some of the twist
stuff, right, umm to find twist stuff Amelia who plays her Amelia a
characters name, she was an older actress. And then they yeah, because
yeah, because there's a I just think that was a big like driving for
Sam as the character, right, yeah, because I'm trying to say something
because there's something about that character. I can't remember if it's a twist or
not. But I agree with you that character's crucial. That's what i'd say.
I agree with you that you need you need that character, and that's
one that I don't think hurts of Like, oh man, how do you
also fit that character in there? Like I think that could be a character
with just a small amount of screen time that we can still get that.
Yeah, because there is that one, like it's myersupp someone to do with
her character at the end where it's a very long prologue that's or no sorry
monologue, that's stuff you could probably trim down a littles. So I'm trying
to think, because man, like, once again, long game, hard
to remember, like where certain story beats happened and whatnot. Obviously the game
can be shorter or longer, depend on how much you build highways and shit.
But I'm trying to think, like, is there a good point in
that game story that you can remember that would be like a good like the
way Dune was like part one at the very end and it was like,
okay, this was a self contained movie, but you're you're leaving it open,
so you could do more. Like I'm trying to think if there's a
sp a spot in that story where we could take it and like here,
yeah, if they only get one shot at it, they make it work.
And I feel like a twenty four is that kind of that kind of
studio? You know? Yeah, but then if you if it's super successful
or people want more you you could go further down that route. I think
if the intention was for for sure in for part one and part two,
I think the part one could end when you have that big boss bout with
Troy Baker's character, because it's a big could the main villain, Yes,
so that first one and then yeah, he's like in it, but like
just in hints and exactly. Yeah. So that's why I feel like you
could do that. But I I think if they're saying, oh, we've
only got one shot Troy Baker's character Infort, she gets all pretty much cut
out, and that just becomes like kind of a goon like character. So
I'd say that. I think even if they just make it about like even
you I love I Love your Green Night comparison, I think that would be
a great actor choice. But even just the way that character descends into madness
in Green Knight, I feel like that you could very much do that with
Sam and it's just him against the Goo monsters and we're not generally like,
oh yeah, bring on more CGI villains, but I think you could the
creepiness. I'm already picturing the music and just him getting sucked into these places,
you know, under the world of the Tar or whatever happens. They're
like, it could very much just be like Norman Retis just one man play
sort of vibe, And I think that could work for the most part.
Yeah, I was so mad. On their website they put out an A
twenty four shirt with like the things that hang down you're not supposed to touch
in the game when they're like can be invisible. So it was the logo
with those hanging down things that you like snip like the yeah, the umbilical
chords or whatever. There sign up for notifications because it went live at six
it's like, we'll let you know what it's. You know, a lot
like being sold and the next time on a website, just like all the
sold all the shirts were sold out. I was so mad. I wanted
the shirt so bad. That happened last time with four. Yeah, and
have you ever seen the A twenty four everything everywhere all at one shirts?
That's another one I wanted and it's sold out right away. They make so
few of these shirts, and like I would buy all these, I just
get annoy with them. It's all like the googly eyes and stuff. So
but the one thing what I do like about this, so I don't know,
I'm for both. I'm for if they come out and say we're doing
a complete you know, adaptation in the game. Great, If they do
a story within the world. That's great. I'm all down for deskt Ranting.
I love that world director. Like I said, I could see either
way of like an experience or could Gene was the first one. I think.
Just my biggest positive from this is not even that desk Stranding is being
made into a movie. I'm just happy that it was a couple of weeks
ago or maybe months ago. Remember when we talked about there was a report
that eight twenty four is going to get into bigger budget films, and we're
like, Okay, we get that you have to do this studio, you
have to grow and make that profit, but we just don't want them to
lose who they are. And to me, death Stranding that's like a perfect
combo of that could be a big budget sci fi action a venture movie,
but that's not losing who A twenty four is. I feel like that fits
right in their wheelhouse of oh weirder type of blockbuster. Same thing we're gonna
tell them on the twenty twenty four preview, but like that civil war movie
where it's about America divides in half and they're having a civil war with each
other, and that's where it's like, oh, that's a twenty four where
it's gonna be an action movie about American versus American, but there's this very
political spin. So that's why it was Civil War and now Death Stranding.
I'm liking the okay, Like Civil War is a twenty fourth's most expensive movie
ever. It's seventy five million, which is funny, that's their biggest most
expensive movie. But so to me, it's like, if these are the
first few signs of the big blockbusters we're getting, I'm very happy. I'm
happy. It's not like a God of War or a you know, obviously
Uncharted was done. It's something like that. I think this fits their wheelhouse
and this just gives me hope for what they're going to do in the future.
So yeah, speaking of film, it in uh New Zealand. Yes,
not very dark and rainy. You need you got to be outside for
this. You've got to have natural sets and grass and everything like that.
So the next thing TELLM a video game related is this is smaller news.
But I'm bringing back up because the screw will reported and it's the first time
it's come up. And plus I don't think I've gotten your opinion on this
because I covered on a trust told you. But uh, the same Scooper
that put out the mcux me news put out that Illuminati has not Illuminati Illumination
has either pitched or they're going to be pitching Nintendo that they want to do
their Avengers and they want to do a lead up and have that honestly be
Super Smash Bros. But what I was bringing up, and this is what
I want to ask you, because we haven't talked about this on the news
together with the other guys, is they now there was a rumor that Illumination
pitched them doing Zelda and they said no, and then they went to Sony
and they did the live action Zelda. And that's not a want to ask
like with this if there's some supposed pitch, do you think like a Zelda
can work both where it's a live action of animation. Do you think Zelda
in animation would be like a Hulk where you just have link in the crew
as characters but there's not a movie, or do you see a Smash Pros
movie where it's like the MC without the X Men for a bit where okay,
I don't think they gave the rights away, but what if there's a
because that was the whole thing that they Illumination wanted to make it and Sony,
I'll bid them or I'll pitch them, whatever the deal is. Do
you think that would be the route where we could maybe have Super Smash rols
but they just I don't include any Zelda link stuff, you know, like
that's me the real because those were the rumblings. But then when that happened
to me, I thought this project was dead because I thought, well,
that's odd that they had this billion dollar hit Mario and then they'd or you
know, with Mario Illumination they decided to go with Sony, who was very
iffy. So that's why I thought, Okay, Super Smashals probably dead because
they're already splitting up the studios and stuff. So like, what do you
see the like with the Zelda of it all? Because that's not a rumor,
that's a confirmed thing, live action sowy moviees happening. Ye. Do
you think that's just like an easy piece that you move out? Do you
think it's something that maybe this is just a pipe tream and Nintendo won't want
to do this as an actual movie, Like sure, Illumination wants to do
it. But Nintendo has really no interest in doing a smash pro SAPA movie.
Yeah, how would that work on terms of film rights and whatnot?
Like, could there not be an animated Zelda? Yeah, as long as
Nintendo didn't sign Yeah, I don't think they did. But as long as
Nintendo didn't sign like an exclusive deal, I don't think they did. I
think it was just the idea that Illumination was kind of caught off guard that,
oh, why is this happened? So it could still happen an animated
movie and could that work? Though? Can you have two at the same
time? I think for Zelda you can. Yeah. I think other Nintendo
properties might not fare the same, But I think Zelda and Mario are just
so huge that I think I think you can get away with it. Mario
did have a live action movie, remember, but I think that is one
that could happen, and I think they could be very different tonally. Now
obviously we know the Zelda movies happening, but we don't really know very much
about it. I guess we have a director, do we do we have
a writer? Yeah? It's not good. Yeah, I can't remember,
but it's it's one of those of like I'm not expecting good thing and I
think, like one of the biggest credits to Pikachu. But I'll I'll let
me get it. But it was there's more questionable projects there, yeah,
because I remember the director is like the Mays Runner uh May Runner guy,
right yeah, and the New Apes guy, that guy. And you know
what, my my prediction, I'm putting this out there nice and early.
Let me get his name here. Uh. My prediction for link Castle is
gonna be is gonna be Thomas Brody Sangster, who is in Mays Runner okay,
like in those trilogy movies, and he was in another one of that
director's movies. I think. So there's a big connection there. And I
don't know if you remember this guy. Look him up, Thomas Brody Sangster.
This, this guy's got link written all over him. This is a
link if I were one. He plays like the night the nice person in
in mab Yeah love actually kid, Yeah, I could see him. It's
just how old is the guy nice? Thirty three? Though? Okay,
he looks like he looks fifteen. Yeah, No, I could see that.
I could see that. The other fancast right now is the Percy Jackson
kid. That's the other one, and then the other one thirty thirty years
or older. The other one I want is the mean pick is the is
Hunter Schaeffer, and the mean pick is Hurt. But it's her playing no
me either, but it's her playing link Ann Zelda. I'm like, oh,
that'd be fantastic. You know, it doesn't make sense. What do
you mean, like Lincolnzel because she just looks like she has features similar to
them both, so that I just have okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
So here's here's the right pick one, you pick one front. Yeah,
here here here's the writer. So they wrote Drastic World, Congs,
Call Island, Jurassic World, Fall and Kingdom, Detective Peach, Pikachu,
Jurassic World, Dominion and Rise Skywalker. Right, so I see, because
I remember you talking that you were happy with the writer and it's not I
understand why, but I yeah, I also understand why they why they picked
that person. That makes sense? Yeah, well yeah, we told them
the discord, right because a billion dollar like massive hit movies other than Pikachu,
they're all hit movies, Oscar winning editor, writer, all that.
Yeah. Yeah, So how do you feel about a one pitch? So
you feel like, Okay, they could do both, which I think maybe.
I think if they do, what I'd like is they do the live
action one with an adult and I would love it if they did the animation
in the style of like wind Waker or something like that, like really set
them apart where the animation could be like the kid link your two you know
young link to link, and then animation is you know your guy or Percy
Jackson kid or Hunter shaf for like my guy. Yeah, you're you're pick
So that's I like, how would you feel if they said they were going
to do it without Zeld though, if they're like, we don't want to
cross streams, so we'll do smash rows but zero Zelda, zero link,
zero anything. Uh yeah, I think you could get away with it.
I think you get away with it. But I feel like with Zelda what
you mentioned there, like win Waker versus Breatha Wild versus Ochre Time, you
have so many different art styles and tones as well. Yeah, exactly that
that art style that who knows what they go for for the live action movie.
But I think no matter what, you could still do something different,
Like I don't know what what kind of era do you think they're going to
try and match up esthetically with one of those eras of Zelda. Are they
just going to kind of do their own thing for this live action? Oh?
For live action, I think it. I have to in my crystal
ball. If there is, for like, if there was a live action
animated for sure, then I think they'd say we got to go with this
style. If there's not, I think it's just kind of fantasy. Like
I think the the director did say something about a certain kind of like anime
aesthetic, and I don't think like exactly the old school anime, but there's
some movie he would say. I mean he said that, I would think
Breath of the While. That seems to me, I agree with you,
like Ghibily anime ish sort of thing. I don't know if it was Ghibli,
but I think it was something like that, like sell the inspiration.
But I think they I would hope so to me if they're not, because
I just like an illumination, go ahead, a live action Miazaki film and
that's the one like burn the hair, so and to me that makes sense
and like for me, if you are a director or writer and you don't
have like a like a a visual idea for Zelda. To me, you
wouldn't get the job. It's like you've gotta have I would think that's a
thing you'd have to have for this movie, whether it's whatever era, you
should have a take and a look for it should not just look like generic
fantasy movie, you know, like has a look. I think you just
Yeah, for this animated one, I think you just straight up go like
Ockerat of Time style. You really tone up that saturation, that brightness.
Uh. And you have stupid jokes of link rolling into a wall and bonking
and like smashing turn and like doing all the crazy noises that he does.
Uh. You have like the the fairy that I'm forgetting the name of,
like just being really annoying. Yeah, I think you go you go hard
on that tone and obviously, okay, time even and especially with drors mask
get pretty dark, and you touch on that to some extent in the way
that the Mario movie has like like a scary moment or two. And then
like Bowser's talking about killing Mario, like he's dropping he's dropping the K word
in this situation. Uh, But like it's still is illumination, lighthearted and
fun. So I think I think you got to and maybe for that then
you go with I don't know. I guess if you're doing an awkward time
and you're doing like a time travel thing or there's young and adult link,
I guess you could go that way. But I feel like the illumination style
to me like just just young link. You just go with that viction of
it. Yeah, Windwaker's cool and all, but I don't think you do
that for the the sup Like I don't think you do that as I think
that these super smash bros. I think that's like more of the deviation.
And I don't know if they ever do that in the movie sense. I
just want that art stuff. I'd love to see some studo try and do
that art style they do. They have a sequence in the movie somehow where
he's going time traveling and then he somehow gets sucked into some other dimension throw
Mario pipe in the wall and then like yeah you see that, you go
into Winwaker world for like five minutes. So you can get that. You
can have fun with it, but it doesn't have to be the whole thing.
I think you can can still get a little bit of that. Yeah,
i'd agree. I hope something like that happens, and for me on
the smash well, and of course, like I want he and you know,
Setha wasn't in the original game, right, it was just Link who
sorry, Zelda wasn't in the original the very first Link. Yeah, just
like i'd want him there. But at the same point, I could also
let's say they said they didn't want to do that. You know, we
don't want to cross Paul Nate, We don't you want to do anime movie,
we want to do anything. Maybe there's like an Easter Egg or two.
But I could see them maybe taking the route because I do think I'm
completely fine that I read comics. I love the games, but maybe they
want to stick to just the really more cartoony characters like a Donkey Kong,
Mario Star, faux Kirby, you know, things like that where Samus Link
like you not that they would get there, but like you know, Snake,
like there's something more like human trust. I would not trust illumination with
Metroid. Yeah, and that's where I wonder too, Like that's the idea
of well, like, of course I love them to be there, but
you don't need Zelda Ford to happen the same way the Avengers. The Avengers
didn't have certain members on that team when they first did it, right,
so I could see the pitch of hey, if Zelda's not included, that's
still fine because Natano has like a pluth throw of characters, and I think
there are somewhere. It's like, it's fun when we play the game,
but in a movie world is like, how does Sam's fit into this?
Right? Like the space when we're starfucks. You see Starfucks on Mario's side
by side, Go, okay, these are two kind of goofy characters,
like I can buy this right away. So and I think too, like
you want to be realistic, you don't want to even the first roster of
the video game, you can't. I just think they do that size wise
with the Pokemon and all the Mario characters, like you'd have to Pokemon.
Yeah, I wonder rights wise how that Yeah, I don't think. Yeah,
I don't think they that hammer that out because what do we They gotta
make it happen though, because I feel like you need I think you need
Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon. I think those are the three pillars because
someone like stars like I don't know if Star fux is getting anyone to buy
a ticket for this, and the answer is yes. But like, I
don't know, I think you need I think you need bigger names than that.
And I think that's how that's how you do it. You get Pokemon
in there, because there's so much you can do with Pokemon. You know,
you you put Squirrel in like in the movie for five seconds and people
will give it a ten out of ten. There's a lot of a lot
of Pokemon fans out there, so let's see. I was just look on
the original roster cam Funck can e gat cam FuG in there? Yeah?
I wonder if it's just like you get like a lot of just Mario characters,
because what you got don Kong, we know that's gonna happen. I
mean, yeah, don Key Kong would probably get his own movie first,
right, so that makes sense. Link. I think Star Fowks would another
Mario sequel, right, And I think Yoshi could do Yoshi's Island and stuff,
and I just really think they do. No Yoshi's just in Mario.
No. I think if mar I think with it being a billion dollar movie,
they will. I think they're gonna like Despicable Me. How you think
they could pull off a Yoshi movie? Yes, you know why full movie
with Baby Mario. The merch sells itself down Baby Mario here grow, what's
the character? What's the what's the dialogue? Is Yoshi talking? In this?
They get Robert Downey as Yoshi? Like, what are they? The
minions don't talk though, right, and they have their own movie. They
pair them up with other characters that can talk. So I think you just
pair Yoshi and Baby Mario with somebody that can talk, and then you're you're
good to go. Do we even have a Yoshi move at that point?
Just like Troy just samos in there? If dispicableed me? You got these
character memor like and they got their own movie. Yoshi caun that can be
Yosha. Don't Then the minions talk, don't they know? They speak in
like they say but no na, but that's about it. They don't they
speak minionisee. Yeah, okay, that's that's the thing where I'm I think
the only ever illumination thing I've ever seen is is Mario. So I don't
I don't know they're chops in that way, but I guess here because That's
the other thing I was thinking is like Kirby pretty big character, but like
I don't do you do Kirby movie? Like what do you how do you
make that work? But I guess if you don't do Link, yeah you
got something there with that. I also think animal crossing could be one that's
not in the original game. It's not even in Melee, not even in
Brawl, But I think I think you do animal crossing potentially, like a
big deal. Do you touch earth Bound or Ice Climbers, Ice Climbers?
No, I think Ness you Ness could be in Smash, but he wouldn't
have his own movie. Yeah you know, all right, Yeah, we'll
see that. That's what I'm wondercular. I think. I also think like
there will do Luigi's Manster movie that will make Luigi bigger. So I could
see a lot of Yeah, I could see a lot of the Super Smash.
Yeah, I played like walking Phoenix. I would love that. I
would love whenever he looks in the mirror it's just actually walking instead of Yeah.
No, I think what the Wayne's see. I think That's what I'm
waiting for that shoot to drop, to see if they announce a Zelda anime
movie because I think that'll tell us a lot. And I could see the
Super Smash Bro's movie being littered with just a lot of Mario characters, Peach
Warreo. Yeah, like they could just take that route because it is Super
Smash right. The Pokemon thing, I don't know because I just don't know
if you need them. I think you need them. I think for the
hire emblem, I think about fire album to Niche. I think they get
a movie still, probably right, not for part one. Not for part
one, they got locked down Pokemon first. I just I just don't know
because it's in that company always kind of weird with Nintendo in general too.
Sometimes. Yeah, so they're a super company. Yeah yeah, Like are
they gonna be like take the call, like, hey, we want you
to be in our movie and like what's the profit mark? Like it would
to me be like much like Spider Man with Marvel and Sony. There'd be
have to be many lawyers in a room cracking down who gets what profit wise.
I just don't feel like Pokemon's that defensive with their ip Okay, you
know more than me on that. There's like a million Pokemon movies and TV
shows like they know that stuff works and it gets fans out there. They
did Detective Pikachu, so they got the animation style down, you know,
get the creepy jiggy puff in there. God damn, well, we'll see,
we'll see. But I like that there's deep. I like those rumors
going around, and I hope this pitch goes well. I want them to
take it. I pitch good because if not, then we're going to get
a bunch of solo stuff. So what if we just call it like a
game and watch movie, then it's over. It's over. The universe is
over before it starts. You know. That's like starting with Quantumedia. You
don't start with Quantumedia or second with it. But yeah, true,