What's up, pals, it's your friend producer Nate here with a little bonus
episode for you. Fear not. We're still coming back next week with our
next episode of oopsal Bards. That's episode eight, still on the horizon,
but we have a little bonus here for you because you're fearless leader. Jillian
Ashley Blair Ivy was a guest again on our friends podcast What Did We Just
Watch? And this episode is fantastic and we wanted to bring you a little
snippet so you could get just a taste of what's going on over there.
The movie they watched is Labyrinth, one of my favorites of all time,
big Bowie fan, so check it out. Here's a little bonus clip from
What did We Just Watch with Jillian Ashley Blair Ivy as the guest, and
you can finish listening to the rest of that episode over on the What Did
We Just Watch Podcast feed available wherever you get your podcast from. We'll also
have a link in the show notes, so check it out and enjoy.
Okay, what is a children's fantasy without an unhappy child dreaming of a fantasy
world? We get one in Labyrinth, but only after a three minute title
sequence with a c al straight our introductions are the main hero from the long
intro until the inciting incident of wishing the baby away is all of about five
minutes. Therefore, let's meet our hero in a set of questions. I
am calling most of this doesn't really matter, all right, So number one,
we meet the heroine of the film at the beginning. What is our
hero's name? And that's going to go too it's so fast, Yes,
Jill, that would be Sarah. That is correct, Sarah. We meet
Sarah at doing what one does, hanging around in like a park, I
guess, with like address and reciting lines to her dog, to her dog.
Yeah, so when you rehearse for plays that are probably not happening,
you do it in full costume in the park by yourself, right, yes,
when it's going to rain, totally right. I'm not the only one.
So she does these lines, and for my second question, what is
the line she cannot remember? And that's going to go again to Jill,
you have no power over me. You have no power over me? Is
correct? That's what I say to my anxiety like weekly. Yes, it's
a good reminder. Yeah, well it works in this film. Apparently so
all right, So for this next section that I could not make this into
a question because it's too ambiguous, but I want to spend a minute or
two of us just sharing what are the things in this five minutes of intro
that we get for Sarah? What are the things that she is unhappy about
in her life? So you don't have to buzzy, this is just a
general discussion. What are some of the things that she's unhappy about, mostly
just being too privileged her stepmother, so she has to babysit the baby,
which she doesn't like. Her stepmother never asks her her plans anymore, and
she she accuses her father and stepmother of going out all the time, which
the stepmother robuts with like, no, we don't hardly ever. Yeah,
I know, I was kind of curious about that scene because it's definitely setting
up Sarah to be the kind of just angsty teenager whiny privilege. But then
she says like, but you do this every week, And I do kind
of wonder if there's truth to that, and if they do just rely on
like a stepdaughter for unpaid babysitting, and if there is something to what her
complaints are based out of it's not all warranted, but I had the same
thought, you know, like it was an interesting yeah you don't you don't
know who's right or who's wrong here right, And the thing that I think
would really help it or sell it is something that I found did not make
it into the movie. Apparently in the novelization it has explored more that this
is in fact her stepmom, and that her mom she sort of idolized,
was like an actor. You see in some of the shots, there's like
a playbill. Oh yes, I have a lot to say, oh please,
yes, so yes, I believe in both the nulization and in earlier
drafts. So this movie is credited to Terry Jones. So Terry Jones says
very little of what he wrote is on the screen because he wrote some,
Jim Henson wrote some, George Lucas wrote some, and then they brought in
Elaine May, one of the great script doctors of all time, to like
be on set and come up with witty one liners. So a lot of
people had their hands in this. But there was more of a backstory about
Sarah's mother running off with another actor who would have been played by David Bowie.
And you can see all of this is hinted at in the production eye
up her room because you can see an article, a review of her mom
and a play and she's posing with David Bowie. Oh my god. It's
very quick, but you guess, see very Peter pants. I wrote down
the headline of the story, but I didn't pay attention to the photo.
There's a lot of things, you know, like a lot of fantasy.
Hold on, I've predicted a question. It's perfect timing, and you don't
have to buzz in because this will be a go around. Yeah, so
you are absolutely right. We get a few shots of Sarah's room and it
gives us a little bit of clues into her as a character and also as
fantasies tend to do give things that may show up in the fantasy world in
a different way that So we'll we'll just take some time to go around and
try to name as many things as we can that you see. I will
say most of them are books, but there are some other things as well.
So let's start with Okay, Jill's in the lead, and we've got
and Menmo and Michael need some points, So we're gonna start with we're going
to start with Michael. Go ahead. Well, so I've already given one.
So you've got a picture of Jared essentially David David Bowie figure whoever he
is in real life. Yes, yes, correct, there was a copy
of the Wizard of Oz. Yes, correct, Wizard of Oz. There
are two copies of Alice in Wonderland. Okay, I'll take your word for
that. There's at least one that I saw. So. Yeah, she
has a painting which I assume she has done, of what I believe she
has labeled slashing machine. They encounter concert poster. It could be, but
it is definitely that it is definitely it could be like that's the name of
the name of the band, but it seems very hand made. But they
encounter that machinery. Yes, thank you for not saying the name of it.
Yeah, she has a poster of I forget the artist's name. Now,
it's like something who did the optical illusion stair painting? Yes, yes,
M's relativity. Yes, Yes, she has the shelf for her stuffed
animals that is missing. One of the slots is empty for the bear.
I don't know if you alas say the name of the bear. Uh No,
the name of the bear. There is there is a there is a
stuff bear that is missing from this shelf. Yes, correct, I mean,
just to be on the most on point. The play she is rehearsing
is called Labyrinth. It is also there. Yes, was there a Peter
Pan book as well? I did not see Peter Pan. I don't know
if anybody else saw Peter Pan. If you want to challenge me on that.
No, I'm trying to remember because there was a lot of books and
I can't remember. I mean, you're you're in the right vein of type
of books, but I did not notice Peter Pan. Jill, do you
have another one? There's the red and white hat that she puts on when
she's looking in the mirror. Yes, but it's not her. She does
that later. Yes, so I'm not going to count that one. She
has a very handsome esque stuffed animal, yes, that one of which I
would say is a goblin like figure. Okay, there is a goblin like
figure. I do have that written down, So I'll give you that one.
Does her dog count since he does appear later in the fantasy world?
Not for this There is like a figurine of something that looks like Jared right
next to her is yes. Correct. Well, I was also going to
say the dog. I would challenge you if we're going to count the picture
of David Bowie, then the picture of her mom with the dog. I'll
give it to you, you said, Michael, go ahead. I don't
know. If I have anything else specific, I'll go out on a limb.
Does she is there a worm? Is there a caterpillar or worm?
I see a caterpillar or worm. We'll give one more for Okay, I
know there's another book. I do not remember it. So, yeah,
she's got a stuffed surgitimus. She does have a stuff surgitimus. Yes,
I'll give you that one. Okay, yeah, good. We we got
most of them. There is a one of the sort of fire persons.
Yes, I won't say what they're exactly called. We got SMUs, we
got the Goblin, we got Jareth, we got the shelf of Teddy Bears
books where the wild Things are one, but some other random ones that are
there, snow White Grim's fairy Tales, everything else. So yeah, okay,
nice. So we learn a little bit about Sarah firm my next question.
You mentioned that Sarah has to babysit. What is her brother's name?
Uh, we got dance logic dance that is Toby. Toby is correct,
all right, and yes, very upset that she has to babysit Toby.
She literally says, someone take me away from this awful place. I think
at one point she says something like the stepmother treated her like a slave when
she's like story typical teenage melodrama. So she's very upset. Melodrama for like
a theater drama kid, the teenager. Yes, right, right, exactly.
So she so she gets this idea, you know, she starts telling
the story. She wants the goblins to come and take her away. For
my next question, what is the exact phrase that she needs to say to
have the goblins take I'm away? Okay? Is it? I wish the
Goblin King would take me away? Yeah, I know you're no. No,
Joe, I wish the Goblin King would come and take you away right
now. Michael, do you have a guess? Oh? I added words.
No, I'm going to give it to you. Joe. You were
the closest you just say goblin king. But otherwise you are correct. I
wish the goblins would come and take you away right now? Is the is
the formula? I got confused because she also had a line about like the
goblin king fell in love with the girl and then like the narrative just went
on for a while. Oh it sure did. It was a lot.
And it is like weird that they're like, she has to say the exact
words, and it's like she's like basically saying the same thing, but they're
like, that is true, that is true. One weird thing about this
whole opening sequence that I learned is that the park at the opening is in
England because this was mostly filmed in England. She then runs off screen and
then runs through three different upstate New York town just for those like four shots
of her running through the rain, and then back to Elstreet Studios when she
goes into the house. Bizarre. One of those towns in New York is
where my my husband's family is from, Haverstrow. So many connections. Yeah,
that sounds like it would have been an IMDb fact that someone would Yeah,
all right, so yes, Also, who made the baby cry in
this film and how it's well, so do you know who the baby is?
His name is Toby, Yes, Toby Freud. So Brian Freud is
one of the concepts and one of the creative forces behind the movie. I
don't think he gets story Crystal. I'm not sure he gets story credit.
But he did a lot of designs, and Terry Jones said that he was
They hired a writer to write the story of Labyrinth, and they gave that
to Terry to turn into a script. He was like, I like these
drawings better, so he based everything he wrote on the drawings, and then
he and Brian Freud went on had a really great series of collaborations in this
vein. If you have never seen Lady Connington's Pressed Fairy book, you should
search this out. Terry Jones wrote it from the perspective of a little privileged
English child would take her diary and smash fairies into the book. So Brian
Freud would draw these smashed fairies on the pages, and then Terry Jones would
write the little diary entries. There's two of three of them in the series.
I can't recommended higher. And then Brian freyd wanted to give a gift
to his son by being like, you can tell everyone now with whatever two
truths and a lie you do in the future that David Bowie three up in
the air a few times. So first of all, that's very obviously adult.
But secondly, I had heard that the original baby they cast freaked out
around the puppets, and so they had Brian Freyd's son who was just all
of these puppets because Brian Fred was his dad who wound up playing Toby.
That makes sense because he was used to being around the world and he's around
so many puppets. Yes, yeah, so I don't remember where I heard
that, and it was not in the Wikipedia page that I read this morning,
but I did hear that at one point. See this is perfect.
I knew people would have knowledge about blab. That was like, I don't
think I need to do too much with stuff. Yeah, so we do
get the correct phrase. We get a sort of creepy scene of goblins creeping
around the room they have come and the Goblin King himself for the next question.
For the next question, we don't really find this out until later,
but what is the goblin King's name? And that's going to go to the
babe with power That would be Jared jaredth correct. Yes, yes, it's
like saying Jared without your front teeth exactly. So all right, So Jared
comes in in all of his glory and it's like, don't worry about the
baby. That was very goode in the intro. I could not wait to
do that and to try to get Sarah to forget about the about the baby.
For my next question, what does he offer Sarah? Serge Angelmas.
He offers her a crystal ball that he says contains all her dreams. Yes,
very good. Yes, uh. And so as enticing as this is,
Sarah is is maybe tempted, but is not having it. She she
says, no, no, I gotta get gotta get my brother back.
She's like, oh no, the consequences of my own action right exactly.
Now. This is for the next question and one which frankly, I think
I kind of have this question myself. So I answer that, can anyone
explain how Sarah actually gets to the world of Labyrinth? Oh? Shit,
it was really subtle. Yeah, so I'll buzz in, Okay, go
for it, Sergey Angela's am I correct? She just appears, like does
the scene just sort of change? He waves out his window and you see
the laby right, so like they're in the room and then He's like,
you would have to come to my world and then there it is, walk
into it. Yeah, okay, yes, I'll give it to you.
It is pretty much it. It's basically like you know, you we point
to it, there's a model outside of the labyrinth, she walks over,
and there we are. I hope you'll be asking the same question about how
she gets out of the labyrinths, because I had to rewind that part just
to be like, wait, what just happened? Yeah, No, honestly,
I kind of like that because thinking about like the classic novels about like
you know, Tornado takes you to Oz and the rabbit Hole takes you to
Wonderland, Like it really is a subtle transition, but it's so effective too,
like you really believe that you're one place in one second, and it's
not like oh pop, you're here somewhere else, like you're just kind of
there and it transitions you very perfectly into this fantasy world. Yeah. I
agree. I actually think it works and it establishes that he has that kind
of power, right. Yeah. There's also something kind of dream like about
that too, like where you fall asleep and in a dream you are cerddenly
somewhere else you don't like in your dreams, you don't take the time to
travel to places you just are. Yeah. I like that. Yeah.
It also feels almost like a parallel universe on top of each other almost because
were those goblins like in her floorboards before time? Were they always there?
Have they always exist? Or is it more like a dream place that they're
at. So it kind of just overlaps a lot. That's really cool.
Yeah, all right, So we go to the world of Labyrinth where the
sort of outside of the labyrinth looking at it, David Bowie establishes the stakes
of the films. You know, the baby is in the castle in the
center of the labyrinth, and you have to come and get the baby.
You have to make it through my labyrinth. For the last question of this
around, how much time does she have to get through the labyrinth? Serge
Angel miss thirteen hours. Thirteen hours is correct, seems unlucky. The clock
is set at thirteen hours, by the way, that has almost no bearing
life. That goes out the window almost immediately. So I actually like throughout
the movie, I was taking notes of the timestamps of like what does the
clock say, and it does continuously move forward, so at least there there
is not a continuity issue there. Yeah, but yeah, it doesn't it
doesn't really matter. Like he comes at one point and speeds up the clock
and it's like, okay, but how long have we actually right, right
right, exactly right, fantastic, We've made it to the labyrinth and the
end of the first round, mo, would you like to read out the
scores? Yes, Currently in the third place within this labyrinth getting very lost
is myself with four points. In second place is Michael with seven points,
and in the lead is Jill with eight. Oh Michael, it's on how
awesome was that? You can hear how everything turned out and hear the rest
of that episode. As I said over on the what did we just watch?
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Oops All Bards is coming. So until then, it's me producer Nate.
I hope you enjoyed this little bonus clip and we will see you next week.