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Hello, everybody, Welcome to that's
no matter on Welcome back this time not

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to a hyperblast as we have been, butts to the big reviews bag for

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March of twenty twenty four. We
have got some bloody, mighty fine records

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to be bringing to your ears today
from the last few weeks. Around about

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now, we've got a little bit
of news as well. But on today's

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show the main port of call if
we are going to be reviewing the new

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records from Judas Priest, Hell yeah, Bruce Dickinson, Midnight Gowage Away,

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Chapter Disease and Dudd's Reat. We
have some good stuff in that to tell

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you about. Let me tell you
My name is Paren Haish. Joining me

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on this jubilant heavy metal path today
is Elliott Paisley and Sam dig Noon.

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Hello troops, how are you all
doing o bird about at all? I

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saw Judis Priest this week, so
oh ship that you actually went to that

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I was. I was unable to
make this one, but I guess that's

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very relevant for you know this week. I bet that was a bloody lovely

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time. Oh yeah, well hoped
by the facts. I missed Saxon so

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we'd get the full Saxon report,
you missed out on the good word.

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When I say missed Saxon, I
got there, So I missed your eye

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Heap. That sort of goes out
saying they were one first. I was

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at the time, Uh, well
things, I quite like your eye Heap,

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but I kind of rules just refused
to get stressed out by them in

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any way. It it was kind
of antithestical to the band to make any

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sort of effort whatsoever and Saxon.
So I think as I did see a

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little bit of Saxon, I missed
most of it, but I felt kind

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of bad after doing the A set
of Awful and picking them as my s

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and I doing that shot, I
remembered all the laughs and you could visit

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Denim in Leather's a good song and
all that, And I got there kind

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of as positive towards Saxon has ever
been. And they're about two of the

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thirds of the way in any way, and I just thought, I think

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I'll just go and have a beer. You chose to not redeem yourself at

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the end is when they're gonna be
doing fucking Denim and everyone I know that

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Mark was at this tour as well. This week and he reported that the

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Saxon Judas Priest double bill is as
fucking swinging a time. There was something

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in Yeah, absolutely, as I
remember it being from you know, the

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time I've seen that bill together.
The Saxon set that like a lot of

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fun. The Judas pre set.
I know that they've been, you know,

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mixing it up from date to date, exactly what your Settlers was looking

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like. But fucking Judas Priest.
Yeah, now, the thing you're so

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much changed in the Settler song.
It's it's new songs or different songs.

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And they did love Bites, which
I wasn't expecting. I think they've only

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started playing for the first time on
this tour. Yeah, I love that

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song. They did sort of Damacles, which do you know what. We

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might get into this a bit later, but I've never really been into that

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Redeemer of Soul's record. But that
song in the live environment is pretty sweet.

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That's exactly what I've always sad about
the record. The worst thing about

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that record is the recorded versions.
I saw them quite a few times around

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that cycle, and it was always
you know, boss, yeah, we

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might get into this label. That
record is one of the worst produced albums

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by a well known band ever,
but to the point where I don't even

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know if I like those songs.
But seeing that, I was like,

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maybe I'll either go back to what
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something. Because but the great things
was they always switch up the order they

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play the songs in, so you
don't really know when you're gonna get the

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classics because the first three songs panic
Attack, you've got another thing coming and

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breaking the Law that is takes a
pretty serious statement, and what trying it

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gives Robert break early on having to
not sing breaking the Law. We also

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got you know, you don't have
to be able to be wise saying I've

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seen three judis prisos that the two
of them have done Saints in Hell,

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which isn't a particularly big song of
theirs. There was one bit which stood

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out slightly on when they got to
the encore, and it was Electric Eye,

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Hell Bent for Leather, Living After
Midnight. Nothing odd so far,

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but then I think they're doing this
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We'll have to back this up.
I think during Living after Midnight they show

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videos of the town they're in on
the screen, and that and the loaded

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or Live in rocking, loving the
bits where they want you to know,

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put your fist in the air for
the horns, And I think that might

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work better in some cities than others
because listen born with is nice, but

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it's not all that exciting. And
when it got to the bit work,

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it was a love into the morning. They showed a video of Curry's PC

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World, so I was about them
as exciting as they could get from.

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Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of
a difficult band to talk about the live

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show because it's you know exactly what
it's going to be and it always is

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that and that's great. Yeah.
I think for me, I've always said

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that dudes of Priests you have just
in terms of the set lists, they

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are very good at like bringing properly
obscure songs out into the day. And

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they are on those bands where I
just say, if you want to go

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see your favorite songs, you just
have to see them a lot of times,

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like it's always going to be amazing. It's just you have to go

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rack up a lot of Judis pre
shows to get a lot of your favorite

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songs. And obviously I'm missing this
particular touring cycle and I'm seeing they were

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doing like Cinner for the first time
ages and I'd like to see Sinner love

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bites I love Yeah again, Maybe
not like the I don't think they're pretty

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much such a thing as a perfect
Judas preset list because it always buy necessity

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cuts out fifty songs that you want
to hear. But it certainly looks like

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a fucking good one, and I'm
sure that they're on cracking form if you

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know. The record we're going to
talk about later as anything to go by.

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So before we go into talking about
all the new albums, the news

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we have quite a lot of compared
to the last sort of week or or

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two, quite a lot of album
announcements and new tracks and stuff like that.

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Most significantly is of course the Hact
that the Hell back I've seen less.

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Uh, you know, let's ripple
through the TNM verse about this Hell

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released then the last Ones. But
it is their first record since I guess

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the Jorris Saga concluded they've just released
a little EP called six six six six

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six, because why not. I
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mean, have they gone Baddi Kore
on this one? Like it's got a

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little bit of that going on in
there, Like, that's not what I

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went to a tour. I was
sort of blown away by the bloody samba

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song? Was that? But the
six six six six six has that that

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kind of like that very modern baddycore
metalcore like sympthy production on it. But

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I mean, like, I don't
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I just made me think of that. But I I just you know,

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the Hell can go away for a
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kind of got another joke. The
samba song in the middle of the just

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like very catchy like and like,
I mean, they're recycling their own rhymes

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at this point on Bosh with Oh
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things they managed to rhyme Bosh with. Yeah, this wasn't necessarily the most

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I think the most inspired Hell record
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you know, it always relies or
heavily on kind of immediately hearing the lyrics

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and stuff like that, and that
first track I was mainly the main thing

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I was getting was five sixes and
who's that? But yeah, I think

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about that. It's it's ten years
about since like groove Hammer and all that,

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and the Hell are still fuckings who
would have thought, like they just

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go away and come back every couple
of years just to you like when they

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when they got a new bit that
they want to make a joke out of,

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and I'm like, I'm fine with
that, Like, don't don't overkill

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it. Don't you know, release
a joke album every other year, because

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then get fucking bored of it.
But yeah, some more substantive new music

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perhaps, so the Story so Far
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album six years since the last one. It is called I Want to Disappear.

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It's going to be out on June
the twenty first via Pure Noise.

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It does have a new single that's
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it also includes I didn't really as
how fucking long ago it was. But

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we spoke about a new Story so
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that is going to be on it
along Break Break there in between you know,

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releasing that song and putting the album
anouncement out of there. But Story

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so Far album is officially on the
way. A new single that we are

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going to talk a little bit more
about is that Paul Bearer have also announced

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their new album. It's called mind
Burns Alive. It's out on maybe seventeenth.

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It's the fifth Paul Bearer record,
and there is a lead single from

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that called where the Light Phase,
which is the first new Pallbearer track in

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several years. And Paul Bearer are, like, I would say, one

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of the essential bands of the twenty
tens in terms of, like one of

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the most significant and influential bands for
where the underground went. I think when

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you look at kind of you know, when Sorrow Extinction their first year came

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out, and then the following several
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in that decade are really a sensual
I think current decade there may be in

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a bit of a slower era.
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I guess, you know, obviously
COVID and everything impacts that to a degree,

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but they've been kind of less of
a less near the top of kind

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of bands that people are really really
talking about. And I think, you

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know, their last record was a
good album, but it maybe didn't build

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up steam in the way that their
previous couple certainly had. But you know,

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I am a big Pall Bearer fan, and I was thinking, like

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I'm you know, I'm ready for
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something, and this track is one
that kind of, maybe, you know,

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doesn't exactly just do what you would
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to do. No, I'm pretty
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Even though I really like Paul Bear, and like you said, the last

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record was good, but it kind
of felt a bit like the least essential

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of all the Paul Bearer albums to
me, so for them to change tack

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like this with their most maybe the
most understated sounding music to date. It

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kind of sounds like Stephen Wilson at
points that I don't even know if you

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could call this a metal song.
It kind of builds to a crescendo,

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but it's never particularly heavy or metallic, and the guy sounds like Michael Stipe

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points in the song. I'm not
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the mix. But I think as
far as bands from that scene who could

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navigate their way out of being a
real metal band, I think Paul Bear

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could be the ones that they see. They seem like the ones that would

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make the most sense. And on
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as to what that sounds like.
I think their last album was maybe like

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kind of a dark, more kind
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Heartless was more kind of you know, proggy and really really yeah,

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the kind of wide screen and this
again sort of swerving again. It's a

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really you know, delict track,
and you know, thinking about you know,

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the last album again not their most
immediate album, but the lead single

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on it that was all fucking riff, Like that's if you heark about the

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album, that riff of the first
thing pops into your head. This kind

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of snuck up on me because like
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like very very kind of hushed,
and you know, during that section,

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I was kind of, you know, I was like vibing, well enough,

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it's pretty, but I wasn't necessarily
being blown away. But by the

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time they get to that back end
and like the heavier chords start coming in,

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I did start, like, you
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some chills with it. It's you
know, it's the opening track on the

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album as well, and I think
it represents certainly a very kind of austere

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start to you know this this pall
Beary campaign. I mean, I thought

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it was a bit of an odd
choice fully single, but I guess you

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say, if it's the opening on
the album, that makes sense because it

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is kind of like there's very two
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But like I've thought it was a
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for the first off, and then
when you hit that kind of like build

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towards the end, it does get
quite stirring. I'm probably, like I

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say, I'm quite obviously the least
sort of small like probably the least big

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Paul Bearer fan here, but Heartless
is one of those ams I did like

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quite a lot when it was kind
of just like making waves in like the

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T and M sphere and beyond like
and people read like that I kind of

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got in on that wasn't so last
one. But this, yeah, like

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as nice kind of like pretty proggy
Paul Bearer goes. I think it's really

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cool. Yeah, I hope it's
more of a flavor than just being like

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an intro to the record. I
hope there's some builds for crescendo and then

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stays where this song ends, which
I do. It's weird. It's probably

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my favorite part of the song,
but I'd like to see them play more

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with the textures they're doing in the
first half of this song as well.

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I based on what the kind of
little statement that's been put out with this

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track about the album, I would
predict that to be the case. I

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think they're going to probably get a
lot more focus on kind of the light

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and shade of it. And I
hope they kind of, you know,

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again me maybe I just didn't see
them live or whatever on that last record,

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but you know that they were,
I guess, just less of a

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presence around that time, and I
hope that obviously when this comes out,

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they can make it over here and
kind of, you know, people can

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start really sort of talking about Paul
Bearer in a big way again. Earth

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Tone nine are a band who this
week were you know, doing some teasing

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gets people very excited. It has
built up to their announcement of their new

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album, which is their first album
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Nexus that's also out on June the
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far is not taking your fancy and
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that they are a very significant band
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quite revered in the kind of arc
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I guess just during a period when
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it. So this doesn't necessarily mean
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base who take them very very seriously
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return of earth Tone nine. Sam. I was gonna say you'd be excited

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about this, but looking at the
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there is. It's a it's like
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kind of just like Little add On. Yeah, I guess we've got two

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of those. This time. We've
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brand new EP, which I think
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episode goes basically to coincide with the
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Yea and all that. Four track
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two of them are just tracks from
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the I Guess One New Someone.
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like that cover I think was put
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what you'd imagine Brian Fallon covering a
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to me pretty happy with. I'm
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in that on that as well.
They're putting out a new version of Free

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Range of Passions and has a new
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the Menace? Which I quite like
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it's got the twinkling the eye good
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of passions that all of us and
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on that record. This doesn't feel
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just sort of like dug up to
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bit more somber, but it's got
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I think this was like a nice
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over in the US this time a
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announced their North American headline run which
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what that is referring to? So
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album because everyone hated I mean it's
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like because I don't think this is
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feels like a pointed title, but
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not attached to anything and it doesn't
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very strange sort of thing to dub
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various points across all their dates they
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gun. Pain of Truth and Scowl, which you know is pretty much like

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the three hardcore bands if you're throwing
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of turn some heads on on your
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of Truth opening for the story so
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it's like scour Ministry Gon make perfect
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the one that I look be like, that's a bit of a that's a

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bit of a pall like I would
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someone like that, like who have
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to get a bit of a mainstream
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proper fuggish New York cardcore fun thing
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yeah, and if if that is
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where that would be the opener you'd
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hearts. You're properly also very excited
about Hey, fucking heavy tour here where

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Hate Breed are going out thirty years
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with them as well as Harm's Way
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building kind of it goes sort of
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bridges that divide, But I mean, Hate Breeding Carcass alone is like

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not something I would have anticipately putting
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heartbeat. You have an amazing time. What's murd about that is being thirty

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years of Hate Breed. Haybreed to
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but they don't seem like the same
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together, there's only like five or
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I guess Petrofaction is eighty eight.

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years less than a decade between their
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statute and significance announced over in the
UK this week, but we do have

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I think a very exciting tour that
Solster Fea are going to be coming out

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on a UK headline tour, which
is again I've seen them back that band

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recently, but not in a headlining
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their first proper UK headliner in a
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Pazuzu along with them, which is
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partnership. But also there you are
getting one of the most confounding live bands

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in the world to warm you up
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So go along to that if you
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get into reviews this week, a
little shout out to the Patreon the that's

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amount of Patreon, which if you
are a supporter of which go and join

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you know it may get access to
our T and M discoor where we have

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chaps all week long and all this
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keeps the podcast alive and running and
keeps us doing what we do. This

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week, you know, we have
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the Big Alexa on Fire City and
Color special that we've finished off a couple

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of weeks ago. But this coming
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album club pack. Our last one, as we've referred to a few times,

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was an absolute hoot. We are
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We are not quite going down that
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have put the albums together and I
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to be had, so coming next
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First off, it is I have
to say it is a second consecutive

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edition of TNM educates You on a
slightly underrated part of a classic sort of

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seven ees ees rock bands catalog.
But I have been trying to get this

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one in there for a while now, so shush. And also, it

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was St Patrick's Day this week,
so there was a lot of thin Lizzy

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on the television. Did you know
that thin Lizzie's final album is a full

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on studs and leather heavy metal album, because I'm gonna say it. The

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man out there doesn't want you to
know that that's the case, but it

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fucking is and it rips. It's
called Thunder and Lightning. So we're gonna

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be talking about that. Then I've
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that Part two is coming. One
of the most insane, over the top

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metal albums ever made by one of
the silliest people in the world, Winter

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sun Time one. It has been
a long time coming. We've got to

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get it in for Part two comes
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I know it's a meme, but
oh my god, third third part in

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our sort of punk and hardcore corner, I had to think after we had

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a little Palm Reader discussion the other
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would like would even count as the
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like a discussion, I've ended up
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besides the one we love, which
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the what will be voted on as
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think it's the one that we haven't
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of like an underrated one. It
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kind of maybe points we just talk
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uh it sort of pointing the way
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going and the kind of ambition that
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gonna have a little bit of sort
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point talk about reading besides the One
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on Extreme Slot. We've been talking
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think we need to talk about one
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fuck plot grind albums that could ever
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Agrophobic, Nosebleed Altered States of America. Sam, I've heard, I've

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been listened to agraphering knows Me before. I kind of was there was a

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PIP. I was like, what
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was those companies, they were just
like suddenly got really buzzy outside of like

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you're like the dirtiest grind. Sure
this album in particular we're talking about We're

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going back. There is nothing like
it. Okay, go go and listen

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to it. You know, everyone
listening to us right now, it's like

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twenty odd minutes long. Oh my
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minutes that sound. It's a few
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do as much as that album does. So again, not quite starting a

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party. There's only one one hundred
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what happens when you try and grab
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Ag. Okay, yeah, I
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never listened to it, but yeah, So that is what is going on

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this week, coming week on the
that's not a Patreon with the album club

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pack, and then soon after that, finally this week, some fucking horror

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movies are coming out so we can
do DNM. That's what I've been seeing

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this week. I've been having a
nice time actually watching some good horror movies

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cinema. Yes, I'll be doing
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that is coming. Thank you very
much for your support. Let us spend

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the remaining two hours or so of
this episode talking about some new albums,

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and we are going to of course
start with a band that have already been

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spoken about a little bit on this
episode, because Judas Priest had a new

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album this month, Invisible Shield is
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Will they make it to twenty,
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exactly six years to the week from
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paved with maybe a bit of frustrat
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of cycle wasn't able to kind of
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a lack of Tory dates here being
locked into an eternal Ozzy Osborne tour that

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never happened, that kind of stuff. But there were a couple of sensational

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Bloodstock dates as well, let me
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on another podcast recently, Firepower never
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album like that comes out, there
might be an initial rush of people going,

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oh my god, it's their best
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quickly fades in the memory. Firepower, more than half a decade ago now,

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is still readily accepted, as I
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just about by everyone listening to us
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you know, sort of rubber stamped
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the way people talk about Brave New
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records that were coming from the Thrash
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twenty ten, Ye, End Games, iron Bound, whatever Firepower is,

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I think probably from the last ten
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of like an Elder Statesman, truly
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laxury bands like the eighties and stuff. Firepower is as good as they get

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late career. Even if you think
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as normally Banns twenty twenty five years
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was one year short of Judas Priest
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don't think that's just a heavy metal
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releasing an album like comparable to any
act, any legacy actor. Yes,

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like Johnny Cash did it, and
that's pretty you know, Springsteen's done it.

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territory, and I think when it

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comes in as far as it did
with Judas Priest. You know, no

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one expected a Firepower because, like
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between alums and stuff, we'd already
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decade beforehand, and that was lucky
enough to get that. And I think

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people generally expected maybe that kind of
redeemer of Soul's quality just for the rest

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of you know, Judus Priest's career, and for me, I think you

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know, that would have been ultimately
fine, you know, like it wouldn't

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have affected their status in any way
if Judas Priest had you know, just

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sort of you know, glided out
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because of that, like I don't
know how much kind of stakes people had

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really invested into like the follow up
to Firepower being as good as that album,

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00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,680
because like for me, Judus Priest, you know, knew, Judas

407
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,839
Priest is something I will always be
interested in, whether it is Firepower or

408
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,720
not. Part of me felt like
setting the bar again at that and going,

409
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:25,759
you know, you've got to do
another Firepower in a row would be

410
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,000
kind of unfair, like both on
me as a listener, and my own

411
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:33,680
enjoyment of these albums and them.
I mean, like, I think even

412
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,119
before Firepower, Judas Priest never needed
another classic album, Like I said,

413
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,640
they they could have written out on
decent like sort of albums that they were

414
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,640
doing for the rest of their career
and they'd still be legends. But like

415
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,559
Firepower was that kind of like,
oh damn, they can still fucking turn

416
00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:52,640
out. I know, the kind
of question was like, is this,

417
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,359
you know, just a one off
lightning in a bottle moment of like recapturing

418
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,559
something where they all then go back
to just being really solid and I could

419
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:03,519
have had the I was like,
I don't need ju Justiciprice again. As

420
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:07,079
iidd before Firepower, I don't need
a classic Judice Priest abum after Firepower,

421
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,920
Like I'd be fine with Juicy Priest
being just decent again. But part of

422
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,759
me like, even if I didn't
expect it, I really wanted Invincible Shield

423
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,440
to be a worthy follow up more
than I think a lot of other albums

424
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,000
that I was kind of looking forward
to. I think I think for Priests,

425
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,359
I would rob coming back in the
early two thousands and stuff. I

426
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,599
think like they needed Angel of Retribution
to be great, and it was.

427
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,640
The follow up records are patchy,
I think, to say the least firepower.

428
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,599
While I didn't want it needed to
be the start of some kind of

429
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,599
the way Maiden in the two thousands
had this second glory run. I wasn't

430
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:45,680
expecting anything like that. I'd be
lying if there wasn't a part of me

431
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,160
that thought. But if they if
they've kept Andy's sneap, the sort of

432
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:56,039
ruthless you know, cutter who make
sure everything's sharp and well performed and perfect,

433
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,000
and if they're going in with that
level of maybe like can do attitude,

434
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:04,720
like believing they can all of that
stuff. Once you're fifty years in

435
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,960
another six isn't that crazy? I
didn't think, like you said, I

436
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,480
wasn't expecting another firepower. That would
be stupid, because I really feels like

437
00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:18,160
such a lightning in a bottle.
I also couldn't go. I also couldn't

438
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,079
say it would never happen. Yeah, and I love Judas Priest just so

439
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,160
much. And you give me the
best songs from Nostrodamus and Redeemer Assaults preferably

440
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,920
produced a little bit better, like
I will be very happy. And you

441
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,359
know I've said many times before when
we're covering Metallica or Iron Maiden, whoever.

442
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:37,680
I don't need the metal gods to
be producing the very best work in

443
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,880
the genre anymore. You know,
they've done their time, other bands have

444
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,759
come through the ranks, but it
is very nice when they do deliver.

445
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:45,680
And you know, I'd heard good
things about Invincible Shield. I thought,

446
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,000
well, I'll be surprised if it
tops Firepower, but I'll be very happy

447
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:53,359
to take one that's you know,
very very good and coming close my first

448
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,759
listeners album. I don't know if
it was just me sort of like calibrating

449
00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:00,960
expectations or whatever. I thought it
was fine. I thought, like,

450
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,480
well, that hit a spot.
I don't know if I'll be raving about

451
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,079
it like I did the last one
a few weeks into listening to it.

452
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,519
My assessment is that I'm not ready
right now at this stage to say,

453
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:12,200
like, yes, I think this
is as good as Firepower, absolutely as

454
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,279
classic an album as that was.
But it is a cracking heavy metal album.

455
00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:18,720
And even if it won't end up
being like, you know, my

456
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:23,079
favorite album this year or whatever,
there is something about Judas Priest coming out

457
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:26,240
with an album like this again that
just makes me feel like a little gooey

458
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,240
eyed when I talk about it beyond
most other albums that we could review.

459
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:34,359
I'm with you on that way.
I'm just so like, there's something about

460
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,400
Jewish Priests that just makes me like
I want to like they're the people's heavy

461
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,039
metal band. To me, they're
they're again like they're their bad I want

462
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:45,519
to get behind. I always want
them to be doing something great. And

463
00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:47,640
I hit plan on this and I
was like, yeah, this is good,

464
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,160
this is cool, this is this
is that what I needed. I

465
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,039
wasn't raving back. And then a
couple and these songs are really stuck.

466
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,759
And again, I'm not saying this
is as good as Firepower, but this

467
00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:00,839
is absolutely a worthy follow up.
And I kind of can sinuation of like

468
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,839
man Judas Priest like they're on it. They're on a like they're on a

469
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,680
late career, kind of like they
can still fucking go. I feel like

470
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,680
we've all of the sort of similar
experience, because before this record came out,

471
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,640
I did see some pre release reviews
saying it's as good as Firepower,

472
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,759
maybe even better. They're best down
since Paying Killer, And you know,

473
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,359
I know to ignore that sort of
thing now, But when I first heard

474
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,000
this record. Again, I'd be
lying if it wasn't a part of me

475
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:30,599
that wasn't disappointed. Like again,
I I kind of knew in my head

476
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:34,559
not to expect another Firepower, but
when it was just a sort of good

477
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:41,160
record that ultimately ended up being disappointed, even though again first listen, immediately

478
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,319
thought was better than Nostro Darmis and
Redeemer of Souls. Over the last two

479
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:47,759
weeks, I'm so glad we didn't
review this like the day of or the

480
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:52,799
day after, because the last couple
of weeks these songs have really sunk into

481
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:57,039
me. Not all of them,
I will say, but this album's fucking

482
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,839
great now. And it's weird to
say that Judas Priest, because it's not

483
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,839
a sound I need to get used
to it. There's probably a few sounds

484
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,960
I've heard more than Judas Priest,
do you know what I mean? Yeah,

485
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:10,400
yeah, And yet getting these new
songs, it was like I needed

486
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,079
to kind of recalibrate my expectations.
And yeah, like I'm not gonna say

487
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:18,480
it's better than Firepower, but fucking
hell, it's good I think for me,

488
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,680
just an albums in general, I've
noticed recently, like in my just

489
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,359
where I am in my life.
I've gotten really bad at like first listen

490
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,240
impressions, like in terms of like
specifically for albums I'm really looking forward to

491
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,759
because it's always like our first listen
and it doesn't you know, Firepower.

492
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,400
I have like six years of having
built that up in my brain essentially as

493
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,799
a thing that is great and a
thing that I love and a thing that

494
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,000
I know inside out, and expecting
the first go of something to you know,

495
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:48,920
equate to that sixty years built up
of memories and everything is just not

496
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:53,119
the case. I think with this
they are. There was a little fact

497
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:57,799
where they are the first like proper
pure heavy metal band to release albums fifty

498
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,359
years apart because they're debut album,
Rocke Roller, was released fifty years ago

499
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,759
in nineteen seventy four. Black Sabbath
of course beat them out by a few

500
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:07,240
years, but they only got to, you know, just after forty years.

501
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:10,359
And I think with that little accolade
in mind, you're speaking about unprecedented

502
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:15,359
achievements, it feels just that little
bit more kind of tasty. That Invincible

503
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:19,960
Shield is like of its quality because
it might not even be your favorite recent

504
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:23,880
Judas Priest album, but the very
first died in the world heavy metal band

505
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,119
to release an album fifty years on
from their first one, and it's not

506
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:35,599
slop, it's not turgid. It
does what you want raw defiant heavy metal

507
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,279
power to do. Everything about Firepower
basically continues I've just won in approach.

508
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,000
It's the first Judas Priest album that
feels like a clear partner to another one

509
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,519
in a long while, I guess, and at that stage in their career,

510
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:50,240
I guess it's to be expected,
you know. But also in this

511
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:52,519
particular scenario that happens to be a
good thing, because Firepower was the best

512
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,279
one they've done in ages. The
lineup is the same. You've got the

513
00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:59,920
guitar axis of Glen Tipton and Richie
Faultner power in the songs it was recorded,

514
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,480
Bandy sneak people up that very robust
hone too to Firepower. There are

515
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:06,960
actually, I would say less deviations
and Firepower. It feels like it's maybe

516
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,000
gone in a couple less directions and
sort of consolidating more down on a core

517
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:13,960
idea. And so when it basically
comes to a sort of you know,

518
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:19,160
condensing of that core Firepower sound,
that's bloody good. I was gonna say

519
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,480
this. This does feel to me
a little more focused than Firepower, Like

520
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,400
I don't think you know, it's
it's about if you listen to the standard

521
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,079
versions about eight minutes short or something
like that, maybe like six minutes.

522
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,119
Yeah, there's I agree, there's
less deviation, which means maybe less ambitious.

523
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,720
But the things that consolidates the ide
is it sort of hones in on

524
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:44,480
get to be like really like tight
and punchy and impactful. Me. I

525
00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:47,279
think the opening run on this in
particular, like really just hits the spot,

526
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:50,279
and that was what on my first
and that's what really won me off.

527
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,319
And then it was kind of as
you got past that, I was

528
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,519
kind of like, okay, yeah, settled into it. But yeah,

529
00:33:54,559 --> 00:34:00,160
this this just feels like taking the
things that worked on Firepower and just tweaking

530
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,759
and refining it a little bit for
something that just gives me more of that

531
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:07,440
hit I got from Firepower. I'm
kind of surprised to hear that too.

532
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,920
You say that because for me,
one of the things was so appealing about

533
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,679
Firepower is it was such a direct, like go for the throat attack,

534
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,800
Like for me, that's like paying
killer crossed with screaming for vengeance with maybe

535
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,000
little variations along the way. With
this one, it kind of feels like

536
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:25,360
a crash course those last fifty years. Well, I listened to it.

537
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:30,159
That's sustained class rif. That's a
screaming for Avengers. That sounds like Turbo,

538
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,199
that sounds like the Fenders of the
Faith. That sounds like painkilub sin

539
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,679
after sin, you know what have
you? And I think that's really cool.

540
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,880
They managed to do that without it
feeling like a retro throwback of Oh

541
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,079
I do remember when we were good. It's like now, they managed to

542
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:46,360
weave the ideas together quite seamlessly.
I think with firepower. I'm thinking about

543
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,960
like songs like Sea of Red and
stuff like that, like the really kind

544
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,280
of when they went into the really
kind of you know, balladerie type territory.

545
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,880
I think this, you're right,
But I think those things that generally

546
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,360
focuses on are like core classic judas
brief ideas, whether that's kind of speedy

547
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:05,119
like fast paced metal ripper, yes, or big trap and heavy metal kind

548
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:08,039
of fist pumpers. It's kind of
like training on them. Yeah, Panic

549
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:12,440
Attack, I guess, you know, Casing Point really grown on me.

550
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:15,000
As the lead single. I thought
it was very good at first, but

551
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:17,519
you know, I think it is. It's still funny that it starts sounding

552
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:22,119
like a maiden song from Seventh Son
or something with all those like space leads

553
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:24,400
and eighties keyboards, and the song
that follows is just oh yeah, the

554
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,840
most to the point, judas Priest
ripper imaginable and it's fucking exciting. You

555
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,239
know, the guitars sound great.
Howfood in the verses is putting in really

556
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,719
brilliant vocal lines like catchy, not
just in that you know, panic attack,

557
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,559
panic attack, but they're kind of
in the wings of a leaf for

558
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:44,920
lack on birds of prey. That
whole part multi tracking there, so fun

559
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,239
classic priest goodness. I do giggle
a bit when he wails about wild neurotic

560
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,400
memes, which if you've seen his
Instagram pages, deals in a lot of

561
00:35:52,480 --> 00:36:00,920
but it's the the one that gets
me is that digitally terminally. I was

562
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,880
like unsure when I heard that kind
of like spacey intro, but then when

563
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,599
that main rift kicks and I was
like, here we fucking go, moments

564
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:12,199
of like this is Priest. Yeah, I think Pandec's wicked in how like

565
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,079
this album is it sounds like almost
the only a band fifty years into their

566
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:17,960
career could do with kind of when
they've taken every and they've learned, but

567
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:21,719
it doesn't sound like a band fifty
years into their career. And then it

568
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:27,480
is energetic and exciting in a way
that other classic heavy metal bands from the

569
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,920
UK and don't they don't have the
energy that Priests have for some reason.

570
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:36,400
Huh, I can't believe that you
heard those since at the beginning and we're

571
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:40,280
unsure because I was like, oh
my god, I think it sounds brilliant.

572
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,960
I think it's I think it's me
being a little bit unsure when yeah,

573
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,039
I could have heard that as a
stark h the riff and the thing

574
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:49,880
is that now I love that intro
going into the I think it all works

575
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,960
really well, but it was just
a little bit like, yeah, no,

576
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:55,880
what I mean is it sounds funny
that starts off sounding like like space

577
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,079
pop and then just goes into you
know, Rob Tree can Abou Paddick attacks

578
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:04,280
like it's just a very and it
works. It's just funny on paper that

579
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,440
that's the transition. Although for sure
and Judas Priest, one of my favorite

580
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:12,159
tricks of theirs is they write super
catchy, memorable verses and then the chorus

581
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:15,519
will just be often like the name
of the song, and yet that managed

582
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:19,000
to be catching its own way,
so you remember every moment of it.

583
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,440
It's like a no, you only
have to hear it once and it's stuck

584
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,039
in your head forever. And that
that riff in the chorus that bam bama

585
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:29,800
part of me wants scot. I
feel like I've heard that on one hundred

586
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,679
Judas pre songs, and yet it
feels so fresh. Yeah, The Serpent

587
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,320
and the King was very early listens, like when not every one of the

588
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,039
songs had kind of crammed its way
in, yet that one did go in

589
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:42,559
there straight away, because that's one
where like, you know, that riff

590
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:46,400
is just straight fucking killing machine or
whatever, and Rob is going insane on

591
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:52,360
that, like fully going ham painkiller
mode. I mean in the verses just

592
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,480
like squawking, you know, and
you are you're never gonna forget. Oh

593
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:59,000
yeah, which one's the Serpent and
the King because it's the Serpent and the

594
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:02,800
King, which is weirdly reminiscent of
the Folk Union song Whose Side Are You

595
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,280
On? That's covered on Kentucky Byperopticon, but I think I'll probably be the

596
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,559
only person to have picked that similarity
in the melody up. But yeah,

597
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:13,800
just like super fucking crazy catchy songs. I think if you are looking at

598
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,960
this album coming out the gates,
the first like seven songs or so really

599
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,559
come in hardly, and like on
streaming, it's a fourteen song track.

600
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:23,199
LIS's like Firepower was, because there
are three deluxe bonus tracks, but the

601
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:28,360
core album is just eleven and I
think that that puts it at a very

602
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,320
strong level of consistency. The first
four in particular one where like I'm to

603
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,159
the title track, Well, I'm
like, this is really going toe to

604
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:38,400
toe with Firepower for me, and
I think I'm rapidient. It's kind of

605
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:42,159
stretched beyond that. Yeah, it's
funny that you mentioned the tar track because

606
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,000
that was one of the ones which
for me on first listen kind of felt

607
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:49,480
like one of the filler tracks.
Piller might sound harsh, but for me

608
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:52,039
at least compared to five, which, like you say, fourteen songs,

609
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,559
no complaints. The whole way through, this has fewer songs and there's a

610
00:38:55,599 --> 00:39:00,639
couple on here that could have been
side I think or could be an interchangeable

611
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:04,960
with at least I think one of
the bonus tracks is excellent, the Lodger,

612
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,840
But for me it was like the
title track as God as My Witness

613
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,280
and Sons are Thunder. I feel
bad getting into the negative so eldly,

614
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,880
but those are the three sons of
Thunder. This is what's great is I've

615
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,920
seen so many people saying that those
are the best songs on than another of

616
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,159
my favorite ones, like Sons are
Funded. To me, it sounds like

617
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:23,840
it should be theme dune to an
eighties cartoon show that I would watched this.

618
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,039
It's the most power range ure,
it really is, and the whole

619
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:31,519
Let's ride all Sons are Thunder like
fucking let's go. Like honestly, I

620
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,880
was like not a Christmas saying this
does sound like just like eighties like thunder

621
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,800
Cats and all that sort of empowered. Yeah. Yeah, you think about

622
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,960
how great that is because when we
know, we review Metallica records or you

623
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,960
know, a new Maiden album,
whatever, it feels like the consensus is

624
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:51,679
almost universal what the good and bad
songs are, at least what the best

625
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:57,000
songs are. Everyone seems to agree, and it's pretty incredible that Judas Prices

626
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,840
releasing record eleven songs and already would
disagree with which ones are the best.

627
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,159
Yeah, I think Invincible Shield the
title track. Maybe part of that is

628
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:07,239
again for me, the chorus it
slightly self plagiarizes Redeemer of Souls a little

629
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,679
bit, which you know we've called
Green Day Out enough on it for that,

630
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,719
But I think it matters less when
the song is blood pumping, which

631
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,039
is what is the case. It
is as God is My Witness. Later

632
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:20,280
on for me, it's anover of
the immediate hits because that just goes all

633
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,880
painkiller again, Like that's that kind
of stupidly hard. Yeah. The closest

634
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,960
point that Priest reached to thrash when
it is like Scott Travis double bass,

635
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,440
fucking going back in that earlier run. You know, Devil in Disguise is

636
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:37,199
a swagger Judus Priest like fucking well, lock up your daughters. You know

637
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,400
that riff is like absolutely British stealing
all over that threat board, and it's

638
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:45,920
I think, you know, a
fun level of pacing in terms of like

639
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:47,719
coming out of the gate with a
few you know, like really storming double

640
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,920
bassed type songs, then switch up
into something like that. The riffing is

641
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,920
great on this album, The soloing
is great. The rhythm section is like

642
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,960
tight as anything as you want in
you know, you just praised in terms

643
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,280
of kind of shedding that bluesy swing
out of the kind of chrome steel heavy

644
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,639
metal way that they do. But
the extra weapon that makes you just grit

645
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:12,480
your teeth that bit harder when you're
listening to it is obviously Rob Halford,

646
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:15,239
and like you know, in his
pomp, he's obviously a strong candidate for

647
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,719
the greatest heavy metal singer of all
time. There'd be little argument there.

648
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:22,960
When you factor in longevity and how
he's been able to stay operating at that

649
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,760
capacity, it basically becomes a field
of two which is hanging kin diamond like

650
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,400
he is a treasure on this record
because I don't know about you, but

651
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:37,519
Rob Halferd for me, he has
this way of just delivering lines that regardless

652
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:40,320
of, like I don't know,
like even the content of the line,

653
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,440
he just has this way of making
you feel it and be like ah fuck

654
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:50,559
yeah in terms of like believing it
because I always think about it like no

655
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:53,400
surrender on firepower as that like I'm
only keeping it real. That's who I

656
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,440
am. I'm just a nun stuck
fighter. And it's like that's not necessarily

657
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,920
an amazingly written line or anything,
but you hear him delivering it's like,

658
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,840
fuck, yeah, Rob help and
I know you are and there are so

659
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,719
this album, Yeah, gates of
hell on this and Me is like basically

660
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,320
concentrated that feeling for a whole I
was like the whole ride with me and

661
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:19,480
yeah where Wine is like it's a
long way down the Pergod tree, Like

662
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:23,159
what a fun, character ful pronunciation. And when he just hits that chorus,

663
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:25,320
I'm like, we'll go screak him
in. It's like, you know,

664
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,280
it's energizing in a way that you
know, I think Judas Priest maybe

665
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,719
innately understand more than any other band. The beautiful thing about heavy metal being

666
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,679
a kind of transferral of energy from
the songs to you. It's like songs

667
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:45,039
that make you feel fucking strong when
you're listening to it, and Rob nails

668
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:49,760
that and the extra pushes on the
pedal from Rob all over this album.

669
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,679
You know, in the Serpent and
the King, the little editions of the

670
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,199
End is Coming soon, all that
kind of stuff. When he sings in

671
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,280
as God is my witness, I
swear they'll be hell to pay. It's

672
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,239
like, yeah, fucking you know
it will be because he sang it like

673
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,079
that, like he will prevail.
There's no way that that guy is not

674
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:07,920
going to prevail. He's in the
perfect sweet spot as a heavy metal singer

675
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:15,239
between kind of your mate jumping on
stage and a kind of operatic maestro.

676
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,079
Well, someone like Ossie or Lemmy, they're in the first count where it's

677
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:21,039
like, go on, get up
and sing and then they bring the house

678
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:24,400
down. On the other end,
you have someone like Di O or Bruce

679
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:30,760
Dickinson who's just like an unbelievable talent. Yeah, the bar's precisely, but

680
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:35,480
they don't really feel like your mate
unless you at the fencing club. But

681
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,880
Rob Helford is like you'd go into
battle for him. He also seems like

682
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,039
he could be your son, where
when he's doing well, you're like that's

683
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:50,800
my boy and real showman sort of
thing of like performing, but he's got

684
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:54,480
there's just that little bit like punk
and like roughness to him that you don't

685
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:59,679
get from Bruce Dickinson, and like
when he's shrieking, like when he really

686
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:05,920
goes it is an extreme sound again
that like that is uncompromising for a real

687
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,320
kind of legacy heavy metal band to
be pulling out, and it is there

688
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,760
is a frill to it every time
he lets that shriek out, and I'm

689
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,000
just like, God, that is
a harsh noise for a human being to

690
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,679
be making. And it doesn't sound
like he's struggling to it. He is

691
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,920
still fully giving all the power to
that shrike. And the way he,

692
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,480
like you said, I was selling
certain lyrics on Devil in Disguise is that

693
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:31,800
bit where he goes pedals and stalks
Machiavellian shiv amb Extra's talks. If that

694
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:36,639
was James three, you'd be like, stop with this lyrical miracle. You've

695
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:39,559
just you've just stumbled over saying it, you know. And Yeah, this

696
00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:46,440
guy who was just stress is in
his early to mid seventies. It's just

697
00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:50,480
crushing it like makes it some of
the most natural thing in the world,

698
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,840
that the thing of them kind of
sending like the cheesiest statements over the top

699
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,440
into like Nirvana Crown of Horns is
one of my favorite traps on this.

700
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:04,119
Yeah, it's it seems to be
some kind of like Christian rock song ham

701
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:08,840
fistedly combining that with heavy metal language, so it's a crown of horns.

702
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:13,880
Horns is the horns of the heavy
metal rockers they could yeah, but like

703
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,000
you know, it's it's a great
priest ballad. And the bit for me

704
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:20,960
is the bridge because when Halford shifts
into that, I'll call out to the

705
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,400
world tonight to raise your horns up
high. It's like, yes, Rob,

706
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,679
they are raised for you. Whatever
you say, my captain, it's

707
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,760
just like it fully fucking lifts my
soul. It's sincere, it's genuine like

708
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,400
again and as that song is pure
heavy metal cliche, but because he delivers

709
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,960
it with such like as sincere like
honesty in his vocals, I'm with you

710
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,280
and I am raising my horns to
Rob Halford and believing every word of it.

711
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,000
Yeah, exactly. I wish they
returned to that bridge. The song

712
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:51,119
to me, it has this kind
of fade out outro and I feel like

713
00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:52,440
it should return to that and kind
of ride out on that. But it's

714
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:58,360
a brilliant moment of like, there
has never been a band more unashamed to

715
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,559
be heavy metal than Do You a
Priest? Because they like basically fucking invented

716
00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:05,360
it right in terms of like the
attitude and the culture, so like there

717
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,800
is no part of Rob Halford that
is going to like shy away or like

718
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,440
be a little embarrassed singing that bridge. And it just it for me,

719
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:16,840
like it cuts right through like any
cliche or whatever that has kind of built

720
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,199
up over the years around the idea
of heavy metal, and it just makes

721
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,360
you feel, you know, that
core idea so strongly and in such a

722
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:30,840
kind of instinctive way I heard from
you know, very minor sexiest, to

723
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,599
be fair, but some factions of
the Judas Priest fandom, if you're to

724
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:36,840
call it that, who When Crown
of Horns came out, we're like,

725
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,360
oh, they've kind of done a
Christian rock song. And I was like,

726
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,760
oh, that's that's a bit odd. And I listened to it,

727
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,599
and yeah, it could be a
striper song. Like you read those lyrics

728
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:47,760
and it's not that far away from
going. This song's about a friend of

729
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,880
mine who was also misunderstood, and
he had long hair and he hung around

730
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,559
with people that society was and his
name was like it is kind of in

731
00:46:55,599 --> 00:47:00,280
that ballpark. But I'll tell you
what. When they played this in Born,

732
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,119
I thought I was gonna cry.
It's like, this is a new

733
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,360
Judas Prix song, this is the
Christian rock song that some of their fans

734
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,960
aren't going with them for. And
it's just again, like you say,

735
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:15,079
the way he sells it and that
thing about the melody just being stuck in

736
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:20,480
your head. I have sung countless
things over that melody since it came out,

737
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:22,639
just like making a cup of tea, emptying the dishwasher, getting petrol,

738
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,400
whatever on doing you just said no, no, no, no,

739
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,920
no no. And it's again it's
one of those you know, how have

740
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,559
I I must have heard that a
thousand times because it's so instant and obvious,

741
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:37,079
and yeah, it feels completely fresh. Yeah, I think even like

742
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:40,440
getting into the latter portion of the
album Trial by Fire, which again I

743
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:44,639
didn't listen to any of the singles
past the very first ones, I didn't

744
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:46,519
know what was what Trial by Fire. Maybe a price that's a choice over

745
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:49,599
some of the others, But like
it's good and I think the way,

746
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,000
like the verses again with how Rob
comes in are exceptional. Sons of Thunder

747
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:58,159
is again the most power ranger dudes. The pre song in a hot minute,

748
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,079
and I think, you know,
at the kind of penultimate point on

749
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:04,039
the album, like why not put
in a song that's like under three minutes

750
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:07,039
and just yeah is straight to the
point. I think that serves a good

751
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:09,800
purpose on the album there before that
Escape from Reality, which is like,

752
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,920
even though Judas Priests are the band
who you know, they took heavy metal

753
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,800
beyond what Black Sabbath were doing and
kind of made its own thing. It's

754
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,199
always like a bit of a fun
treat when they let some of that Sabbath

755
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:22,400
influence, kind of back the weird
psychedelic Sabbath bit in the middle of this.

756
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,519
Yeah, like Rob goes full Ozzie
for a moment with that psychedelic effect,

757
00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:31,320
and then I know, switching back
to pure Rob halford with the acadey

758
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:37,159
Escape from Reality brings you down kind
of in that shrieking chorus. Fun you

759
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:39,239
know, like back and forth there
with us sort of what I was saying

760
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,880
earlier, this was like they go
through more of their castalog than the last

761
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,639
one. That song. To me, the riff, like you say,

762
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:50,679
Sabbath is probably the most accurate comparison, but just it sounds like the way

763
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,599
Priests would riff in the mid to
latter mid seventies. It's Yeah, it's

764
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:59,079
a sound they haven't really gone back
to all that much wit, if at

765
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:00,239
all since then. Maybe a bit
on a deemer of soults, but to

766
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:06,880
hear it here with a production job
that hasn't that isn't absolute dog water it

767
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:10,599
it sounds great. Yeah. And
then giantan the Sky I am. I

768
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,760
say, I'm really happy with that
as a closer. Yeah, it's another

769
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,719
one of the goes like heavy milk
cliches of you know, the tribute to

770
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,800
your fallen brothers and like the lazy
ve all that. But again as a

771
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,559
stirring, uplifting album closer, it
really hits the spot in a similar way

772
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:30,880
to Crown of Horns does because again
that that honesty and sincerity to it.

773
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,079
Well, here's the thing about that
with me again, it's it's a bit

774
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:36,320
different in terms of like it goes
slightly more into that sabbathy side, but

775
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,840
with the really triumphant sort of Judas
Priest you know, touched to. I

776
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,480
think melodically it's great, but that
sincerity, you know, as you say,

777
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,719
it's basically it's a heavy metal legends
who have passed on song, which

778
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,559
we seem to be getting more and
more of these days, I just because

779
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:52,400
heavy metal is older. Yeah,
and I think that's already very sincere on

780
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,719
kind of a surface level from Judas
Priest because they are of a generation where

781
00:49:55,079 --> 00:49:59,199
they're talking about their friends and their
direct peers in that song. You know,

782
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:01,840
you know, any Runny James dere
et cetera, like people they genuinely

783
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,760
knew, which not everyone writing those
songs can can say, but whether this

784
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,360
was intended or not, for me, there's something really beautiful about that song

785
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:14,719
because it's almost like they're going to
eventually be describing themselves because like you know,

786
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,679
we don't have that long with Judas
Priest left like this, this could

787
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,559
be the last song on the final
Judas Priest full length and it has a

788
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:25,440
similar effect to me as like the
last song the Garden on Russia's Clockwalk Angels

789
00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:29,760
albums, which sort of ended up
doubling as like a kind of Neil per

790
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,880
eulogy song just because he wrote it
so beautifully. Like this song is great

791
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,400
right now, but either feeling it's
going to take on like even more significant

792
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,519
some years down the road and Judas
Priest aren't around anymore. Well, yeah,

793
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:45,599
I mean that's the kind of morbid
thing about listening to bands this long,

794
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:47,039
and the tooth is every time you
hear the new record, he could.

795
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:50,039
I don't want to say morbid though, because to me it's it's a

796
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:53,480
really beautiful thing in that because the
song is so stirring and power elaboratory.

797
00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:57,360
Yes, and you know the giants
in the sky, you will never die

798
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,960
that whole thing, like they arguing
with an to be describing themselves, but

799
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:05,519
it's so fucking kick anath and how
it does it. It's just a very

800
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:08,280
it's just very Judas Priest, you
know. Yeah, And I think there

801
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,960
must be some pressure on the band
every time they do a record. I

802
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,880
think, how are we gonna end
this one? Because, like you say,

803
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,119
it really could be the last one, and everyone's saying, like sat

804
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:19,639
Jude was could be the last Iron
Maiden record. It en is on hell

805
00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:22,079
on Earth and you're like, Jesus, I was having a nice time with

806
00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:25,079
this band and now it's pretty bleak. This is, like you say,

807
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:29,280
the most if this does prove to
be the last Judas Priests record, and

808
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,079
I'd like them tit twenty but if
this is the last night around, this

809
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:36,679
is a pretty much perfect way for
them to bow out. Because it's a

810
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,880
slower, kind of more stately song, but it's still got all the bite

811
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:44,400
and all the pomp, and again, like you say, it being a

812
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:51,599
song about their peers, it just
has that extra bit of gravitas where it

813
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:55,199
doesn't really feel like a morning song. It's like they're all one thing.

814
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,760
Yeah, Like you know, for
Judi Prief writing that song, it's like

815
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,519
I'm writing a song about like the
people I went out to bars with.

816
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:07,559
You know, it's very like down
to earth despite being obviously larger than life

817
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,800
in what it's you know, how
it's phrasing itself. I think essentially among

818
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,400
the core eleven, I don't think
as a we track on it. I

819
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,639
think it's very very consistent, and
again even onto the bonus tracks, maybe

820
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:20,639
not things i'd be like desperate to
sub onto the core album, but I

821
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:22,840
agree that song the Lodger really kind
of stuck out. They go like a

822
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:28,639
bit horror on that song. Yeah, I can see why maybe that element

823
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,320
kept off the main track listing.
It's a slightly different song, but that

824
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:35,559
vengeance is Mine hook, It's like
how is how is that not on the

825
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,880
make it a twelve track album?
Absolutely fine, Just get the Lodger on

826
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,400
there. I don't think it's cool
hearing rob Lean into being a big scary

827
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,360
monster. Yeah. Yeah, And
I'd like to give a nod to Richie

828
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,079
Fultner as well, who, like
just by kind of virtue of the long

829
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:52,920
history of the band he's in.
It's still kind of viewed as the new

830
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,599
guy. But if you look at
the writing credits, he's in here as

831
00:52:55,639 --> 00:53:00,199
a strong presence and like lead guitar
wise, there is so much on here

832
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,480
that shows he's actually gotten more kind
of comfortable and natural and kind of more

833
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:09,000
inspired a fit for the dude's presound
in the years he's been in the band.

834
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:12,599
Like he's not just the kind of
standing KK at this point, you

835
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:15,119
know, so, I think at
this point he's pretty essential for their success.

836
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:17,320
Like if you listen to the dual
harmony part that close out the last

837
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,440
thirty seconds of Invincible Shield, it's
fucking awesome. It's just like game Hell's

838
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,280
got like great Julian Seas and that's
one of really stuffed for me and the

839
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,800
solo and that is one of my
favorites on the record. Yeah, I

840
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,440
like again Invincible Shield. It's the
song is basically over by the point that

841
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:34,679
melody comes in. But they're just
throwing this last part because it's fucking great.

842
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,159
It's kind of miraculous that they found
him, because it was Glenn and

843
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:43,039
KK was one of the iconic writing
duos in any heavy metal band, and

844
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:45,960
then what thirty to forty years into
their career, that splits up and they

845
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,880
get a guy who, I mean, unless I'm just showing my ignorance here,

846
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,039
I don't really know anything he did
before Priest, it was certainly his

847
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:57,840
his large scale breakthrough. Yeah.
Yeah, and he comes through and he's

848
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:02,480
not only a great counterpart to Glenn, but just a great songwriter in his

849
00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:06,639
own right because the stuff where he's
had more of a presence that being the

850
00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:12,280
last two Judas Priests records have both
been exceptional. And again, you can't

851
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,760
put it all on him, because
we've you know, singled out praise for

852
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,960
Rob and the rest of the man
played great, and you know, Glenn's

853
00:54:17,039 --> 00:54:22,599
never lost his writing ability at all. But I think you're quite right to

854
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:27,119
draw attention to him as a as
a component. Yeah, and I think

855
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:30,360
it just this is one of the
records where, like in Approach, it

856
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,519
is basically firepower to and I think
it's a worthy Firepower to you know,

857
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,159
like you love this band. What
an incredible treat it is to be still

858
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:42,920
getting Judas Priests albums of this quality
fifty years on from their debut album.

859
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,199
Like I think Firepower was one thing, but like, even if you don't

860
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:50,400
think this is maybe as good as
Firepower, Like who else is managing two

861
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,719
of these things in a row at
this stage? That's what feels like the

862
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:57,559
real fucking Golden Goose here, you
know, Yeah, because even you know,

863
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,679
with this, when this first came
out, I kind of thought,

864
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:01,840
oh maybe a Firepower was the Brave
New World. Maybe this is the Dance

865
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:07,559
of Death, like still a really
good record, but quite clearly the love

866
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:10,039
dance to death. But that's a
conversation that's a long time ago, for

867
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,119
another time. Oh yes, But
for me, I'm not going to put

868
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:17,480
them on equal pegging now. But
it's like I look at the Judas Priest

869
00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:22,880
catalog and you're like, they ended
fucking strong. That was true on Firepower

870
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,679
and it's still true now. And
that's that's kind of all I wanted.

871
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,400
I didn't want them to follow up
Firepower with something where I thought, oh

872
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,599
yeah, absolutely so invincible Shield,
Judas Priest. This is the most denim

873
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,400
and leather start to reviews episode possible
because this month is obviously led off by

874
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:44,679
two heavy metal titans. Bruce Dickinson
The Man Drake Project is up next.

875
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:46,280
And this is a bit weird,
isn't it. We've got a Bruce Dickinson

876
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:52,119
solo album. I've never had that
in my time of following metal, and

877
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,760
I guess it's a strange thing to
approach on the subject again of expectations,

878
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,639
because Bruce Dickinson has an established solo
career, like this is not his first

879
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:07,840
rodeo, but what purpose that serves
in today's day and age compared to back

880
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,800
then is a different kind of question, because like, this is the seventh

881
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:14,920
Bruce Dickinson solo album, but as
said, it's probably the first one that

882
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,119
the majority of people listening have kind
of experienced in real time, because the

883
00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:22,320
last one he did was nineteen years
ago, almost two full decades ago.

884
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,880
Sam, have you ever listened to
a Bruce Dickinson solo album before? Never

885
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:30,119
listened to a solo album. I've
heard solo songs and there's some in the

886
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:35,239
past that I've quite liked. Yeah, Elliott, you I guess have listened

887
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,880
to Bruce Dickens the solo album,
because I've jokingly alluded to it a couple

888
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,159
of times, but there seemed to
be a disagreement between us when this album

889
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:45,480
was announced because Bruticks and solo to
sort of lay the land here for people

890
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:50,000
who aren't in the trenches of nineties
heavy metal, Discourse actually has a very

891
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,760
good reputation on his past work because
I think amongst people who were kind of

892
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,800
very tuned into following, you know, like true heavy metal through the nineties,

893
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,280
Iron Maiden are in like the roughest
patch of their career critically and commercially

894
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,199
in the Blaze Bailey years. Bruce
dickinson solo albums that came out alongside those

895
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:10,639
are very fondly remembered by comparison,
and I think it's that memory of like

896
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:15,559
how good those albums were for people
more than just oh, Bruce Dickinson is

897
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:19,679
this big, you know, singer
from Iron Maiden. That would have kind

898
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:22,000
of powered some of the excitement about
the announcement for this album amongst people who

899
00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:24,639
had been, you know, following
all this time. You were quite dismissive,

900
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:30,360
though, well, yeah, I
mean we had that discussion on the

901
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:31,480
air where you mentioned it and you
kind of looked at me to go,

902
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,960
and we're both really excited about that. It was like, oh no,

903
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,559
not really, and you kind of
scolded me for not thinking the nineties work

904
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:42,960
of Bruce Dickinson was a manner from
heaven. So after that, I did

905
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,039
I did actually go. I went
back to listen to The Chemical Wedding for

906
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:49,360
the first time in at least a
decade, and you know what, that

907
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,519
is a nice album. I'm not
I'm not convinced that it's better than the

908
00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:58,800
solo work of Sayer and Ian Gillen, let's say, but it was.

909
00:57:59,079 --> 00:58:01,119
It was. It was quite like
you say, if you were an Iron

910
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:04,719
Maiden fan in the nineties, which
is not a great time to be an

911
00:58:04,719 --> 00:58:08,079
Iron main fan, I can totally
see why that was a special album.

912
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:14,440
Yeah, I'm specifically talking about the
Accident of Birth and Chemical Wedding albums from

913
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:19,880
the late nineties. Songs off of
those two album first couple of Bruce solo

914
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,639
albums. You know, I'm not
a tattooed millionaire when he's trying to do

915
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:24,760
that kind of glam rock, hard
rock thing. Not what I'm specific talking

916
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,000
about here Accent of Birth and Chemical
Wedding. I do think they are looked

917
00:58:29,039 --> 00:58:30,960
back on in the history books as
very strong albums. Like there are people

918
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:36,280
who probably bought that album on day
one who hold the Chemical Wedding super deer

919
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,440
like, insisting that it's superior to
anything I have made and have done since

920
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,840
Bruce's return, which I do not
go, you know that far in saying

921
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:44,639
I have a real soft spot in
my heart for the accident at Birth,

922
00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:46,639
I do, which I think if
you are a big Iron Maiden fan and

923
00:58:46,679 --> 00:58:51,440
you're not that infused with the kind
of big, long records that they're currently

924
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,760
making, and you've never heard that, I really think it has like exceptional

925
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,760
songs, Like maybe it'd be worth
an album club or something one day,

926
00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:00,519
because to settle this properly, because
like I would be genuinely shocked the idea

927
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:06,000
of any Iron Maiden fan not enjoying
Road to Hell or Star Children and those

928
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:09,480
songs from that record. But obviously, in those years, that was Bruce's

929
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:13,880
primary venture, so it was clear
why he was doing it. The next

930
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,880
solo album after that was Tyranna Souls. It's pretty good, I suppose more

931
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,000
kind of you know geared to fit
the two thousands. It was the only

932
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:22,800
one to come out after we'd rejoined
Maiden, but then that was it,

933
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:27,920
and having been silent for two decades, you assumed that Bruce just had his

934
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,480
plateful doing Iron Maiden again. And
then suddenly we get the Mandrake project,

935
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:35,159
and with two decades between them,
I guess you could. For me,

936
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,519
the sort of most natural thing to
do is just draw a line under all

937
00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:39,559
that and go, Okay, this
is a different time. It's a guy

938
00:59:39,559 --> 00:59:43,719
in a different stage of life like
this does, like you know, the

939
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,119
follow up to fucking you know,
Tyrannia Souls twenty years in the making.

940
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:51,320
It just feels like a weird way
of thinking about it. Whatever we thoughts

941
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,679
we have on you know, kind
of individual Bruce dicktson solo records prior,

942
00:59:53,679 --> 00:59:59,480
I think unaffected really by this record. There's little to garner from direction or

943
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,440
anything from judging those. You just
have to go okay, new both Bruce

944
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,960
Stickers and so album What's he doing? And the Man Break project. It's

945
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,159
all right. I suppose it's not
quite invincible Shield. You're being very generous

946
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:14,559
there when you call it all right. And there are parts that I think

947
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:20,679
I'm all right than others. Saxon
and Apology is what I'm gonna say.

948
01:00:22,239 --> 01:00:23,360
I like the Saxon album more than
this, I do. I think the

949
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:29,199
Saxon album as the Saxon trucer here. I think this makes the Saxon album

950
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:35,719
sound good. Okay, So the
context here is like, you have been

951
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,039
very down on even Maiden's working in
fairness, I wasn't. I was.

952
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:45,519
I wasn't even super harsh on sind
An improvement over book. This album made

953
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:55,960
me miss Yannet girl. That caught
me in a vulnerable moment. Sorry,

954
01:00:54,960 --> 01:01:04,199
I had a horrible time. Wow, why does this exist? Like what?

955
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:07,800
Like, look again, I understand
the criticisms of Saint Jukes, so

956
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,360
I think you know, like those
longer songs towards the end, it really

957
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,840
drags it down. But there was
like there was stuff on Saint Dukes I

958
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,960
think worked really well. Yeah,
why do we need Bruce Dickinson teaming with

959
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:24,480
worst musicians who are knowing near his
musically interesting as I had made And this

960
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:29,440
is like I don't think Bruce is
at fault, particularly on this album.

961
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,679
I think he's doing what he does
a bit more boring, but when I

962
01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:38,920
listened to is like, how bland
this sounds musically, how stodgy and lifeless.

963
01:01:39,679 --> 01:01:45,960
And on production there's no riffs,
there's no solos maybe from Puddle of

964
01:01:45,039 --> 01:01:47,239
Mud? How did he end up
with this job? Did no one else

965
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:52,920
audition to be the drummer on this
album? I genuinely I have not got

966
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:58,440
a nice thing to say about this. I think there are two nice things

967
01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:01,440
to say about this record, but
they only really work in the context of

968
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:06,199
not really being that keen on the
last two Iron Maiden albums. And the

969
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:09,440
first of those is it's nice to
hear and Bruce Dickinson on a record that

970
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:15,559
doesn't sound bad, which I think
sound bad. I don't think it sounds

971
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:17,639
great, but at least I feel
like I know what's going on, which

972
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,400
I don't feel like I've had the
last two Iron Maiden nams. And it's

973
01:02:22,519 --> 01:02:25,920
nice to hear and play music that
at least gets to the point, which

974
01:02:27,679 --> 01:02:30,760
I think there's good, long stuff
on the last couple. I'm not saying

975
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,480
all the time, but it's refreshing
to look at a track list that features

976
01:02:34,519 --> 01:02:39,320
Bruce Dickinson and see the numbers four
and three and five, and there are

977
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:44,559
some longer ones, which I mean, we'll get to those, but like

978
01:02:44,639 --> 01:02:50,719
you say, beyond that, I
don't really understand Bruce dick was he sitting

979
01:02:50,719 --> 01:02:53,039
on these piles of songs and going
home. I'm tied down in Iron Made

980
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:55,480
and I want to go and work
with the guy from Pardle of Mad,

981
01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:00,400
Like, I don't really understand how
this comes together. Here's the that I

982
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:06,039
guess. I like, I have
positive to say about this album. I

983
01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:10,599
feel like maybe on the sound point
and everything, I kind of leaning closer

984
01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:14,320
to Sam Maybe. I just think
in terms of the line up here,

985
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,039
as you're saying, like the we
were joking in the run up to it,

986
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:19,840
like I can't wait to hear the
Bruce Dickinson album with the drummer from

987
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,760
Puddle of Muder because it just feels
like a bit of a punchline in terms

988
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,800
of the downgrade is obvious in terms
of who he's working so obvious, like

989
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,480
and you know Roy Z is the
guitarist on this record and the producer of

990
01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:35,039
it. He's been Bruce Dickinson's go
to guys solo for you know ever,

991
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,280
and he's he's much more of like
you know, he's a nineties rock guitarist,

992
01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:44,840
and he feels more born of that
era of kind of heavy metal bands

993
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,960
and singers like him kind of trying
to do kind of heavier, meaner takes

994
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,920
on what they were doing in the
nineties, so they down tune and all

995
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,800
that kind of thing. I think
again, in cases of like Accident of

996
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:58,760
Birth, that turns out pretty well. I think there are riffs here that

997
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,480
are like, you know, fine
and work well. The lineup is when

998
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,840
in Maiden you are used to working
with the best of the best. What

999
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,840
obviously comes with that that's different here
is that with a band like Maiden,

1000
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,639
you have big personalities like Bruce and
Steve Harris in a room together. Something

1001
01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:20,159
like this was always kind of,
by necessity of its existence, always going

1002
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:25,239
to be Bruce and people who take
up less oxygen in the room because that's

1003
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,360
what he's kind of getting away from
to kind of that's just what the song

1004
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,880
someone was always going to be at
its best. I think this record can

1005
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,039
be pretty good at its worst.
It sounds like a bit of a pub

1006
01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:41,280
band with a pub recording. I
agree on the pub band comment. I

1007
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,639
think like that is to me,
like my big one of my big problems

1008
01:04:45,639 --> 01:04:48,440
with this, but it's a pub
band that with delusions of grandeur. Who

1009
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:53,199
thinks the flu on a song makes
it like everything? Well there was a

1010
01:04:53,239 --> 01:05:00,000
song, uh oh, I'm going
from quickly. There is one where Bruce

1011
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:03,719
playing bongos and stuff. They added
all the Eastern like yeah, and I'm

1012
01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:06,960
like, oh, I swear this
is just like is this just stock Eastern

1013
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,519
music? That band can just like
slap onto a song because it sounds like

1014
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,840
every other fucking band has ever done
that, like has done more interesting versions

1015
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,679
of that thing. And I was
like, yeah, this is pub band

1016
01:05:18,679 --> 01:05:23,760
but like trying to sound exotic and
it's rubbish. I should say when I

1017
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,920
say this album sounds better than the
last Maiden records, I don't meet.

1018
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,119
I don't think sounds like later Alice. Right, it does sound like a

1019
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:31,880
pub band is exactly the way to
put it. It's just there is a

1020
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:38,159
kind of clarity to it that there's
records of. Unfortunately, what becomes clear

1021
01:05:38,679 --> 01:05:45,519
through that clarity is some seriously embarrassing
stuff from Bruce Dickinson, who hasn't been

1022
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:53,400
the least embarrassing person for a while
now, he's kind of become the sort

1023
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:59,320
of foddery old you know, middle
class English guy that a lot of people

1024
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,000
paint him out anyway, And on
this there's this kind of faux mysticism to

1025
01:06:03,079 --> 01:06:09,440
it, which I mean it's a
cliche, but here it makes sense.

1026
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,840
There's moments in it where I just
thought, that's just spinal tap, like

1027
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:16,639
the Shadow of the Gods. The
lyric this is my world, world of

1028
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:21,400
the Dead, delivered like my world
off your usual illusion and then I'm sorry,

1029
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,880
you can't have a lyric that goes
this is my world, world of

1030
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,079
the dead, this is my life, world of the dead. Excuse me?

1031
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,239
How has that not been Really it
doesn't even make any sense at all?

1032
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:38,119
And it's like that's the sort of
thing where you go like beyond parody

1033
01:06:38,199 --> 01:06:43,800
levels of bad. So the opening
track I've to Go of Ragnarok, I

1034
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,639
think is really good. I think
it starts the album off well in terms

1035
01:06:47,679 --> 01:06:51,000
of the kind of heavier sound it's
going for. Doesn't sound the worse there.

1036
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:54,880
It's got a decent riff. I
think Bruce doing that kind of more

1037
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,559
dramatic character play stuff, you know. I think fundamentally one of the weird

1038
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:02,400
things about this album is that that
lands more naturally with Maiden than it does

1039
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:05,679
kind of you know, this group
of musicians and the approach, but it

1040
01:07:05,719 --> 01:07:09,639
works on that song. I just
think it's got a really good chorus like

1041
01:07:09,679 --> 01:07:13,360
that when you're doing of the Sun
Will Rise Again, Like that's excellent.

1042
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,360
And Bruce, you know, he
can sell a really epic vocal hook,

1043
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,719
you know, big surprise there,
the kind of after glow of regular rock

1044
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,679
doing the hacker right at the end
is a slightly different matter. But regardless,

1045
01:07:23,719 --> 01:07:27,880
I think that's a very very strong
opener. I think it's one of

1046
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,760
the songs where I can see what
they're going for more than the others because

1047
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,599
it is trying to be sort of
a darker, apocalyptic kind of like song.

1048
01:07:34,079 --> 01:07:36,440
But and you say Bruce sells with
every chorus, but I'm like,

1049
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,119
he can when he's got a musical
sort of canvas backing him that can do

1050
01:07:42,199 --> 01:07:44,920
epic, which I don't think they
can here. Yeah, I think that's

1051
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,280
fair. It's kind of punching through
something trying to convey how big it is.

1052
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,880
I think again, for me,
the chorus in that song is really

1053
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,639
it's strong enough for me to get
what it's going for. When the second

1054
01:07:54,639 --> 01:07:59,199
track arrives was the first time I
started to really feel that's kind of slight

1055
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,239
off brand cheapness. This record,
for some reason has it's got this like

1056
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:06,000
rock you like a hurricane type riff, and under that the drums in that

1057
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:11,280
song, the kind of tone of
them and the dead thwack of how they're

1058
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:16,520
recorded feels very very lumping'. And
that's when I started to kind of like

1059
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,479
really feel some problems that were gonna
plague me for most of the rest of

1060
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,640
the album. I couldn't work out
if it's because I knew it was Puddle

1061
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,720
of mad Man on the drum kit, I kept listening to the drums more

1062
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:32,000
than I perhaps might do, or
if the drums just that as being so

1063
01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:36,319
boring and so lumping on every song, and then that's may remember it was

1064
01:08:36,359 --> 01:08:41,840
Puddle of mad Man. Yeah.
There there's a few moments on here where

1065
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,680
you go, where has the money
gone? Where? Where did did you

1066
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,920
have any mistress of mercy? Like
the sort of canvas of that and like

1067
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:54,000
that, and the second song I
always on repeat listens. I always thought

1068
01:08:54,279 --> 01:08:58,760
they'll sound like if you had a
keyboard or an electronic drunk or something and

1069
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:04,159
it had a backing track called something
like you know, grunge jam or hard

1070
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:11,079
rocking or something. It's it's so
nondescript, and I think Bruce almost sounds

1071
01:09:11,199 --> 01:09:15,760
used to do double juicy in the
character department, to almost lift it out

1072
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,199
so that to make it not feel
so non descript. But when the two

1073
01:09:18,199 --> 01:09:23,479
things are next to each other,
Bruce the star of the show ends up

1074
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,359
looking a bit ridiculous. Yeah,
and that song you just mentioned highlighted there,

1075
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:29,439
Like, I don't disagree with what
you said in terms of the sound,

1076
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:30,560
but I also think that's like another
of the like, if you're going

1077
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,520
to rank these songs, I think
that would end up in the top half,

1078
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,680
you know, because it just sounds
a bit like some of maxim at

1079
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,600
the Birth or something like that.
And you know, the very kind of

1080
01:09:39,079 --> 01:09:44,039
hard rock rhythm section basic through you
know again like that May Door to Hell

1081
01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:47,840
song. It feels kind of garage
bandy, and it interferes with his voice,

1082
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,520
like how I don't know, the
drums are not quiet in the mix

1083
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:56,279
and they kind of I don't know, there's something off about them that also,

1084
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,880
like it clashes with the chorus and
like you're saying it kind of it

1085
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,159
makes Bruce sound a bit odd and
strange. Raynald the Graves weirdly sounds like

1086
01:10:02,199 --> 01:10:05,800
something from kind of Judis Priests two
thousands records, which Royseley actually did produce

1087
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,359
one of, and that kind of
like bluesy snarl. It is a bit

1088
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:15,479
less suiting for Bruce Dickinson, and
it's it's a weird sound man, Like

1089
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,760
You've got like creepy spooky organs on
that track, which I'm normally all for,

1090
01:10:19,239 --> 01:10:24,399
but it sounds way cheaper than you
would expect. And you know,

1091
01:10:24,399 --> 01:10:28,920
the Iron Maiden record that leans into
the kind of like hard rock meanness is

1092
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,600
No Prayer for the Dying, which
everyone seems to agree, is the maiden

1093
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,279
record that suits Bruce the least.
You know, I kind of bringing that

1094
01:10:34,359 --> 01:10:40,960
sound back and sort of clashing it
in this ugly way with like attempted more

1095
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:45,720
elaborate instrumentation is a very weird,
like you know, when he goes more

1096
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,840
prog again. To me, Bruce
Dickinson is not, like, in my

1097
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,960
mind, the meanest rock star in
town, you know, and he suffers

1098
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,079
a bit when he tries to be. He is the kind of grand storyteller.

1099
01:10:57,279 --> 01:11:01,479
But putting that guy on a record
that doesn't match him in that regard.

1100
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,840
It's all very haphazard, is how
it sounds. Yeah, I would

1101
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:10,800
agree. He sounds a bit like
Sean Smith on Raid on the Groves where

1102
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:17,439
he goes on to ask looking masters
and it's like, haven't you worked out

1103
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,920
what your skill set is? Now? Like you say, there were there

1104
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:25,119
were moments in even the Maiden castleog
where you go, you're not really playing

1105
01:11:25,159 --> 01:11:28,279
to your strengths it and that seems
to be a faction while he left the

1106
01:11:28,279 --> 01:11:32,000
band, So it's really odd in
his solo material to go into that kind

1107
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,920
of pubby not even punk. I
don't even know what you call it,

1108
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:44,119
because that bit I just quoted that's
followed by a really sad, lame blues

1109
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:47,800
riff, and I think it just
doesn't gel well with Bruce Dickinson and his

1110
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:53,039
character at all. I think it's
everything else around it's so bland where he

1111
01:11:53,039 --> 01:11:56,520
should have played these different characters in
these songs, liking Rain on the Graves,

1112
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,479
he's trying to do the storyteller thing
like it does just sound a bit

1113
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:05,079
naff whenever, like there's no flavor
around it, like because Bruce's is again

1114
01:12:05,359 --> 01:12:10,000
can be a bit naff even at
his pomp, like because he's being a

1115
01:12:10,119 --> 01:12:14,000
silly old man at times, but
when he's got so much like extra flourishes

1116
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,640
around him, it all it's easy
to get swept up in it, like

1117
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,399
on even on some people, like
right on the wall on the Last time

1118
01:12:18,399 --> 01:12:21,640
Made Now. But he was doing
the kind of like wise old storyteller thing

1119
01:12:23,079 --> 01:12:25,359
that could sound a bit crap on
its own, but when it was in

1120
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,680
part of the maiden sort of thing, I could kind of go with it.

1121
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,600
Here, when he's trying to do
these difig characters over the most stock

1122
01:12:32,399 --> 01:12:39,520
like lump and meat and potatoes four
four metal riff, it just feels weirdly

1123
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:44,680
disconnected, like he's he's the grand
poet trying to like tell these stories over

1124
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:49,359
like little scribbles and drawings that match
up to the image. Like I totally

1125
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:55,079
understand what you're saying. The rickety
production job, like Resurrection Man has this

1126
01:12:55,159 --> 01:12:58,840
bit in the middle where it suddenly
turned into a stone of rock sop and

1127
01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:01,680
like guitar wise, I think it's
a you know, it's a good swaggering

1128
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,680
riff there, it's a drums kill
it sort of cool unpredictable turn, you

1129
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:10,439
know, and it's a different space
here Bruce. The drums in that part

1130
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:15,720
are so bad. It's like Lars
or Rick just woke up. It's just

1131
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,600
fucking like yeah that that that That
is the bit where I keep going back

1132
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,720
to, like the Drummle album Being
drum Is. That was where that jumps

1133
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,079
out to me because that those rec
men starts to you know, it's got

1134
01:13:26,079 --> 01:13:28,560
a kind of spaghetti western kind of
thing. It's a little bit different,

1135
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,880
and I was like, okay,
cool, and then you got the girls

1136
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,520
like, oh, that's what's going
on behind the kit. There there are

1137
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,159
parts and again it's not like he's
just like you know, at a time

1138
01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:40,840
or whatever. It's just in terms
of like how kind of like lump and

1139
01:13:41,159 --> 01:13:45,079
deliver without energy and how it's recorded. Like there are parts where like the

1140
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:50,359
drums jump out in how lacking they
are, and it's like how are these

1141
01:13:50,359 --> 01:13:55,119
demo takes making it? It's just
it's bizarre, like some of this record

1142
01:13:55,239 --> 01:13:59,000
sounds like it was recorded in two
thousand and two by some like upstart band

1143
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,680
in Italy or somewhere where they're not
getting a lot of you know, attention

1144
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,319
and finances. And I don't know
why it's only us who seems to be

1145
01:14:03,399 --> 01:14:06,760
kind of picking this up about this
record. It's really weird. And again

1146
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:11,600
I don't dislike a number of the
songs. I think the first track is

1147
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,600
really really good. I think I
quite like finger in the Wounds, which

1148
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,880
again the symphonic side is quite cheap, but in general it suits him more

1149
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,760
than the kind of blues rock stuff. And again the chorus like is really

1150
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:27,479
well delivered from Bruce, like proper
conviction in how he kind of sells that.

1151
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,560
I think that might be the song
you're talking about, the kind of

1152
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,279
Middle Eastern part, but just the
core is the But how Bruce sells that

1153
01:14:33,319 --> 01:14:39,600
song I think is really really strong. But it does Elliet your action like

1154
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,439
Where's the Money Gone? Is exactly
fine as well, because it just why

1155
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,399
does it come across in this way? And then like bafflingly, like on

1156
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:50,000
paper, the best song on it
is Eternity has Failed from the Book of

1157
01:14:50,039 --> 01:14:54,119
Souls, and like you know,
I say it's the best song on it

1158
01:14:54,119 --> 01:14:57,439
because I fucking love that track as
Maiden did it right, I think like

1159
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,359
that chorus is genuinely nominal, like
it was incredible as the tour opener during

1160
01:15:02,359 --> 01:15:05,520
those Books of Souls years. A
Maiden song. Yeah, well, I

1161
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,880
know that you probably haven't listened The
Book of Souls in time, so I'll

1162
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,760
let you off. But like,
I love that chune. I think it's

1163
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,600
a brilliant Iron Maiden song. It's
one of the best on that album.

1164
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,520
And like, I know that song
was written. This album's had probably been

1165
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,079
a long time in gestation, right, Like that song was probably written primarily

1166
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,239
for this record and then adapted into
a Maiden song in terms of like the

1167
01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:31,720
order of how things happened. But
I think you hear stories like this sometimes

1168
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,000
where people go like, oh,
yeah, I wrote this song for like

1169
01:15:34,279 --> 01:15:38,399
X project, this side project,
and then we realized it would work better

1170
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,840
as our main band, and we
put it over. And what happens is

1171
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,880
they take that kind of demo seed
of an idea and then through the chemistry

1172
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,720
of everyone involved, they elevate it
into something better. This is like hearing

1173
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:58,479
that process in reverse to it,
you know. And shitty narration. The

1174
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,920
shitty narration is there in the original
version, but it sounds cheaper than the

1175
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,199
Maiden shittier. Yeah, And I
know that, like the Maiden version,

1176
01:16:05,239 --> 01:16:09,479
particularly the intro was subject to a
bit of piss take at the time but

1177
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:14,560
he just like Bruce the room he's
recording this intro part in he sounds like

1178
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,600
less immersed in some kind of windy, you know, hilltop as he does

1179
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,359
on that version. And when the
riff comes in, which is when the

1180
01:16:21,399 --> 01:16:25,560
song really really gets great, right
like the intro on the Maiden one,

1181
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,399
you could take a leave it or
whatever, but once the rift hits,

1182
01:16:27,399 --> 01:16:31,640
I don't care. The drums are
not nickeo right like, they have not

1183
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,079
got that swing. I think like, as an experiment, if you're listening,

1184
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,760
listen to those two songs back to
back and just skip to the moment

1185
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,319
where the intro ends and the whole
band comes in and the riff like moves

1186
01:16:42,319 --> 01:16:46,600
the whole song forward. Compare how
much life in the drums and the bass

1187
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:51,960
the Maiden version adds to it to
like the gutted version that is here.

1188
01:16:53,119 --> 01:16:55,680
And when the chorus hits like Bruce
is still selling it. The chorus is

1189
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,680
still fucking amazing, but the band
behind him doesn't push it and make it

1190
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,279
expl the way that Iron Maiden do. It just sounds like a demo.

1191
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:08,159
This is the problem. This is
probably similar to what Bruce demoed before the

1192
01:17:08,199 --> 01:17:10,760
Book of souls and Steve Harris went, oh, that's great, we should

1193
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,000
put that on the record. It's
I mean, the only other time I

1194
01:17:14,039 --> 01:17:16,199
know they've done that in the in
the main history is bring your Daughter to

1195
01:17:16,239 --> 01:17:18,720
the Slaughter where they went, let's
put that on a mate, And you

1196
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:23,520
look back and go, that's not
an Iron Maiden song, Like you see,

1197
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,840
where's this case? You're like,
this isn't a Bruce Dickinson song.

1198
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,840
This is an Iron Maiden song because
when you take away everything Bob, Bruce

1199
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,680
Dickinson, I mean he's done a
Roger Waters is what he's done with him

1200
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,479
going I'm going to do the Dark
side of the Moon. I'm want to

1201
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,880
show you all I don't need David
Gilmore. And then you listen to it

1202
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,479
and go, you should marry David
Gilmore. You should never be without him.

1203
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,479
Like you listen to this and just
go, why would playing it slower

1204
01:17:48,039 --> 01:17:54,199
with none of the swing and then
pan pipes, why would that be better?

1205
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,399
Yeah? I understand it's seeing through
the original idea in terms of how

1206
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:04,479
we originally conceived this on but the
offshoot it took improved it right, and

1207
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:11,399
it's like we've had this fully finished
flourishing version of this song, and then

1208
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,239
nine years later we've got the demo
with what might as well be the drum

1209
01:18:15,279 --> 01:18:23,079
Machine, and all right, Eternity
has failed. It's like, yeah,

1210
01:18:23,399 --> 01:18:26,760
like there is there are differences in
terms of like it gets to the solo

1211
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,920
section and there's like a synth solo
instead, and you know, it's a

1212
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,840
differing idea to what has been heard
on the maiden track, so it doesn't

1213
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,760
just take away. You know,
they're putting some whistles and shit at the

1214
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,920
back end. I get there's a
new arrangement, but you're waiting the whole

1215
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,840
song really to hear. There's kind
of new moments where it clicks at all.

1216
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,800
As to White's here again and the
last few songs, it slows down

1217
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,920
a lot. And again, while
I there are songs on this I think

1218
01:18:51,039 --> 01:18:56,119
I'm coming across like more negatively even
than I have feelings on this record,

1219
01:18:56,119 --> 01:18:58,199
because there are a few songs that, despite the sound of them, I

1220
01:18:58,399 --> 01:19:02,279
enjoy the tracks. But I think
as someone who does regularly go to defense

1221
01:19:02,399 --> 01:19:08,760
and jutsu, the song stretching here
tests my patient a bit. Do you

1222
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:13,239
remember when we reviewed Send Dudes and
alek K It was with the wonderful anecdote

1223
01:19:13,239 --> 01:19:16,239
about Maiden gluing their foreskins shut right
at the end and ruining it. That

1224
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:20,560
like, done it again, haven't
they? They's done it again? Like

1225
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,039
I'm sure. I'm sure. I'd
have to check with Alec. I'm sure

1226
01:19:24,039 --> 01:19:28,359
he caut with that anecdote. And
I'm not gone crazy. Like the last

1227
01:19:28,359 --> 01:19:30,840
three songs on this are where my
life. I went from disliking this album

1228
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:35,279
to hating it. I can with
your disposition. I can totally understand why

1229
01:19:35,279 --> 01:19:39,159
that occurred. Even Facing Mirror,
which is four minutes long, that song

1230
01:19:39,199 --> 01:19:42,119
felt long. Look at your face
in the mirror? Does it look the

1231
01:19:42,159 --> 01:19:45,079
same? Shut up, Bruce.
He does repeat that line about four hundred

1232
01:19:45,159 --> 01:19:47,439
times. I think Shadow of the
Gods, which I know you roasted earlier.

1233
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:51,760
Bit Elliott, there's a part again, it's like a lengthy song.

1234
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,640
There are parts in it that I
like. There's a part where he starts

1235
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,439
belting around the kind of three minute
mark, and you know, I'm a

1236
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,039
Maiden fan of Only Human. That's
just a good sound to me. But

1237
01:20:00,279 --> 01:20:03,000
it's kind of a a slightly disjointing
song in terms of like where it pays

1238
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,880
off, how it gets to places
or whatever, and then it's he pulls

1239
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:11,600
a maiden, puts a longer epic
right immortal beloved. It is the worst

1240
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,720
thing I've heard like on and I'm
released this year. We're not talking about

1241
01:20:15,159 --> 01:20:19,079
Wow, Lord of the Lost album. Okay, my closing track is an

1242
01:20:19,119 --> 01:20:24,760
abomination. I really wouldn't go that
far. For me. It was just

1243
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:29,319
like, I am, I'm ready
for this album to end at this point.

1244
01:20:29,359 --> 01:20:31,159
I think, you know, it
feels done at the five minute mark,

1245
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,640
and then there's still four minutes more
that are mainly Bruce talking to himself.

1246
01:20:36,359 --> 01:20:41,319
He repeats the lovers brought you here
and love will tear your part lyric

1247
01:20:42,119 --> 01:20:45,359
for ages. I was like,
this is I'm stuck in a time loop.

1248
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,520
That song genuine made me feel like
I was in a time loop and

1249
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,840
there was no escape. First five
minutes I think are not awful. The

1250
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:57,680
fact that it's twice that length is
really bizarre. I think the sequencing of

1251
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,039
this record really hurts that song in
particular. And I know that there's there's

1252
01:21:00,039 --> 01:21:02,880
no way you could arrange the songs
on this record and go, oh my

1253
01:21:03,039 --> 01:21:08,880
god, it's incredible. But having
like two real dirges or two of the

1254
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,880
worst songs on the collection going into
this one, and you know, in

1255
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,039
a weird if it weren't for the
Book of Souls, the id of an

1256
01:21:15,039 --> 01:21:18,840
epic Bruce Dickinson solo song I would
find quite terrifying. But Empire of the

1257
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:23,119
Clouds is the best song on that
record, and it's eighteen minutes long and

1258
01:21:23,159 --> 01:21:25,279
it's all written by Bruce, and
it's like, oh, he can deliver

1259
01:21:25,359 --> 01:21:30,760
that kind of balance of real drama
and kind of camp in a really unique

1260
01:21:31,159 --> 01:21:36,479
and amusing, you know, enjoyable
way. And this has a lot of

1261
01:21:38,159 --> 01:21:41,560
the fun of Cooch in theory,
fun of Cooch mons like a spoken word,

1262
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,439
little bit's a sound, even if
it does sound cheap, and the

1263
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,079
song has some kind of wonder to
it, which I think a lot of

1264
01:21:47,079 --> 01:21:51,079
this record lacks. But by the
time I get to this song on each

1265
01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:57,560
listen, I'm so done in that
my enthusiasm is just completely waned. Yeah,

1266
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,279
like this album, it does.
It exult ASTs me in a way

1267
01:22:00,319 --> 01:22:05,159
that the previous two Iron Maiden albums
don't to the same degree. And those

1268
01:22:05,159 --> 01:22:12,560
are albums that I fully admit and
recognize are bloated and have structuring problems,

1269
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,119
and like, ultimately, like a
Bruce tickets and the solo album is not

1270
01:22:15,239 --> 01:22:19,199
something I needed. I'm not mad
that I got it, that it exists.

1271
01:22:19,319 --> 01:22:24,199
I think like there are a few
more good songs to add to his

1272
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,800
very very long resume of them,
you know, and like there are ticks

1273
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,680
in the plus column that these songs
exist. But I do think this album

1274
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:38,159
is actually a good reminder of what
is still so worthwhile in the current Iron

1275
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:41,239
Maiden records, because like, you
know, I've seen a couple of like,

1276
01:22:41,239 --> 01:22:43,399
oh, I like this way more
than the latest made in comments and

1277
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,720
you know, if you do,
fine, But I think the band chemistry

1278
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:50,960
and having the standard of players that
that band does really speaks for itself,

1279
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,840
because like send Dukes in the Book
of Soles aren't perfect, but they have

1280
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:59,479
Nicko McBrain and Steve Harris on them. They have Adrian Smith playing the guitar

1281
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,319
solos that can't just be hand waved
away so easily, I think, because

1282
01:23:02,359 --> 01:23:05,560
the albums are too long, and
you know, while Kevin Shirley is not

1283
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:11,520
perfect, this album sounds very cheap
to me in a way that takes me

1284
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,800
more out of it. And this
thing is still nearly a whole hour long,

1285
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:15,600
so it's not like this is some
breezy, fucking, you know,

1286
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,239
like punk rock record. No,
I would agree with pretty much all of

1287
01:23:19,239 --> 01:23:24,359
that. I think this as much
as in theory, this album being a

1288
01:23:24,359 --> 01:23:28,560
bit more straight to the point,
and I can hear, even if it

1289
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,399
doesn't sound there, I can kind
of hear what's going on because a lot

1290
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,560
of my problem with the last two
Iron Maiden records, and in particular Senjutsu,

1291
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,319
is I think the mix is way
off. I don't know if it's

1292
01:23:35,319 --> 01:23:40,560
to account for something or they're trying
to hide certain things in the whatever.

1293
01:23:41,159 --> 01:23:45,600
Either way, those records, both
of them have glimmers and full songs of

1294
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,239
like the Maiden, magic, like
Hell on Earth, Empire of the Clouds,

1295
01:23:49,399 --> 01:23:53,800
Days of Future, passed Rights on
the Wall, like they're not without

1296
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,720
those moments where you go, fucking
hell that that is Iron Maid. And

1297
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:03,000
I'm listening to you know, this
record, even if I'm not, I

1298
01:24:03,039 --> 01:24:08,840
don't hate all of it. It
never has like a second of that where

1299
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,560
you go holy shit, Bruce.
For me, there's no moment Wentre I

1300
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,439
go, oh my god, Bruce
Dickinson the way we saw Rob halfl on

1301
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,640
that Judas priestyle and you're like Jesus
Christ. This guy, Yeah, I

1302
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,640
think for me, like there are
there are moments when I have that Bruce

1303
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:24,119
magic again, the chorus of after
Good rather up in particular, I think

1304
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:30,720
he fucking sells it, but he
is majorly compromised by the kind of surroundings

1305
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,960
he's built for himself. Yeah,
I mean, I don't get into that,

1306
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,920
and it has made me really appreciate
though. Even again, I didn't

1307
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,359
mind some jets. I didn't like
Book of Souls, but I would take

1308
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,520
I'd rather listen to all of Book
of Souls again than listen to this.

1309
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,560
Like that's how much I genuinely just
have a strong disliking towards it. I

1310
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,560
don't know if it's you know,
doing it alongside the Priest album has made

1311
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,479
me look even harsh on it,
so I'm like, that's how it should

1312
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,880
sound. But I just had a
miserable time. Yeah, We've got a

1313
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,800
lovely way to round off this,
kind of like nineteen eighties Heavy Out or

1314
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,079
got that. This episode starts off
with with the band not actually from the

1315
01:25:02,079 --> 01:25:05,039
eighties, but inspired by it,
and the reason it's good this time is

1316
01:25:05,279 --> 01:25:09,680
are those albums too long to you? Are you Exhausted by Bruce Dickinson.

1317
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:14,119
Do you want a heavy amountal record
that is literally like less than half as

1318
01:25:14,119 --> 01:25:16,720
long twenty five minutes as either of
those albums spoken about? The new Midnight

1319
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:26,720
record Hellish Expectations is twenty five minutes
long, fucking getting like I just ah,

1320
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,319
I've had this is this has been
one of those albums I've not stop

1321
01:25:29,399 --> 01:25:32,239
listening over the last couple of weeks
because he's just and he's just a shot

1322
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:39,840
of adrenaline, just lift of spirits, Like there's not loadar I'll have to

1323
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,479
say about this other than like it
all fucking rips, you know what you're

1324
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,319
talking about. With the Priest album
earlier, we're like every chorus is just

1325
01:25:45,359 --> 01:25:46,960
kind of shouting the song tide to
sing the song title over. Yes again,

1326
01:25:47,359 --> 01:25:50,439
Well it's fucking midnight as well,
I've done it, Like does that

1327
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:55,720
the Expender Court Expending Mercy expect total
hell? Like yeah, let's ah,

1328
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,520
so I know what you mean.
I'm not having a ton to say or

1329
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,920
hot not knowing necessarily what to say
because you've said before, are the hardest

1330
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,840
downs to review are the ones where
you're not that keen on it, you

1331
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,960
don't love it, you don't hate
it, and it's quite a generic thing

1332
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:11,720
that's not true. The hardest downs
to review are the ones that do a

1333
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,520
thing that is so obvious and everyone
listening will know exactly whether or not it's

1334
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,920
for them. But it's great,
yeah, because you can't even say,

1335
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,239
well, if they work on that, or if they hone this, or

1336
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,680
I would shave some of that off
and then this would be a much better

1337
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:28,880
record. Midnight on one of those
bands where it's like you can't improve at

1338
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,159
the thing. You know, you
wouldn't change a thing. You could just

1339
01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:33,199
change a thing about this. You
can just keep doing it. And every

1340
01:26:33,239 --> 01:26:35,960
two years I'll go, oh,
I could do with a new midnight record.

1341
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:42,119
Oh there's one. I've tripped over. It perfect and every fucking time

1342
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,720
it's so sweet. Yeah. And
because of that, like, if you're

1343
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,520
not familiar with Midnight at this stage, I'm going to assume you've just started

1344
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,640
listening to this podcast this week,
which, if that's you, cool,

1345
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:53,000
happy to have you, glad.
We're still picking you people up. But

1346
01:26:53,319 --> 01:26:55,840
you know the drill now with Midnight, and the thing with that is like

1347
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,319
the first midnight album that I reviewed
on TNM was Rebirth by blashm which came

1348
01:27:00,319 --> 01:27:02,800
out in twenty twenty, and that
was right before the COVID lockdowns at the

1349
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,680
start of that year. The following
album, Let They Witchery, released in

1350
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:11,840
twenty twenty two, was basically written
and recorded right after Rebirth by Blasphemy came

1351
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,920
out, because he didn't go out
touring for that album straight away, so

1352
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,079
he just made this whole other album
and sat on it for a bit until

1353
01:27:17,079 --> 01:27:20,960
he could tour the two of them
together. This album right after the recording

1354
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:26,039
of that last album. He wrote
this in a weekend and we've recorded basically

1355
01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:30,199
right after the last album. He
is literally writing and recording albums faster than

1356
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:33,680
he can release them at this stage. I think the only thing holding him

1357
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:38,319
back to this kind of two year
schedule is like the physical manufacturing of these

1358
01:27:38,319 --> 01:27:41,560
albums and all the kind of logistics
there and one thing to go out and

1359
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,840
tour them. If he was just
sat at home and was just only putting

1360
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,079
these old band camp, we'd have
a new Midnight album every month, I

1361
01:27:47,159 --> 01:27:51,399
think, and like having spoken about
Midnight, you know a lot over those

1362
01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:56,039
albums. I think we might not
have reviewed this had this come out in

1363
01:27:56,079 --> 01:27:59,239
a Bithia month like next month,
for example, because you know, if

1364
01:27:59,279 --> 01:28:00,880
it's for you, just looking at
the album cover right, like, there's

1365
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,880
not a lot of surprises even by
midnight A standards, because it was written

1366
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:08,159
in a weekend, like the last
album. I remember us joking that it

1367
01:28:08,199 --> 01:28:12,359
was surprisingly procky for them because the
last song, sex Witchery, had like

1368
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,479
a different riff at the end of
the song that it transitioned to and it

1369
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,119
was like sort of disconnected and it
was a slightly void body feeling on it.

1370
01:28:17,319 --> 01:28:20,159
This album none of that. This
is the midnight album that was written

1371
01:28:20,159 --> 01:28:25,279
in a weekend. Having said all
that, I love it, Like that's

1372
01:28:25,359 --> 01:28:28,479
things I've realized that album. I
love this and even more because this one,

1373
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:33,239
it is just no bullshit gas Strape
two minutes of the snotty punk like

1374
01:28:33,279 --> 01:28:38,319
that is just a pure like hack
and sash punk for a dB and just

1375
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:43,640
obnoxious fury and it fucking rips.
I just again like this album they just

1376
01:28:44,039 --> 01:28:47,399
no no nonsense, absolutely not a
single ounce of fatl fillo on it,

1377
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:54,520
just pure like riffs and attitude and
hooks. So good. Yeah, this

1378
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,279
band, like they did do exactly
what I want from them, the perfect

1379
01:28:57,319 --> 01:29:00,920
cross section of speed metal and punky
black Matt. Yeah, this man has

1380
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,840
turned the filtration of Venom and Motorhead
and kill them all here in Metallica and

1381
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:09,279
all these obvious things, just like
into an art form that is so midnight.

1382
01:29:09,399 --> 01:29:12,840
What do you expect? You expect? Total hell? It has maybe

1383
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,279
my favorite midnight album cover since the
early ones, at least the nun hanging

1384
01:29:15,319 --> 01:29:20,840
from the bell. It's a fucking
hard detail. Opening song is fantastic,

1385
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:26,079
catchy riff dbat. He goes We've
only come for your sleeeze at one point,

1386
01:29:26,079 --> 01:29:29,640
which just an amazing line. I
did what I often do with midnight

1387
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,720
albums, is I just put the
album on in my headphones before looking at

1388
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,800
the track list, and I work
out what each song is called based on

1389
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:39,720
what he shouts the most. And
it did make me piss when in track

1390
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:44,800
two he comes in yelling about gash
scrapes. And that is the plus of

1391
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:46,840
continuing to review all these mid night
albums, because they make me laugh.

1392
01:29:47,399 --> 01:29:51,000
They're a good giggle. The way
deliver Us to Devil doesn't put in a

1393
01:29:51,119 --> 01:29:56,880
the or an a. It's just
us to Devil, like there's no time

1394
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:01,039
for the brilliant apparently that song is
about literally waiting for your heavy metal records

1395
01:30:01,039 --> 01:30:06,319
to be delivered to your door.
So so endearing. I love Hi Master

1396
01:30:06,399 --> 01:30:11,119
and Deadly. When he says you
will fry more, people should utilize fry

1397
01:30:11,199 --> 01:30:13,920
as a threat. It sounds like
he's been lifted out of a time machine

1398
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:15,720
from the nineteen fifties, like I'll
fry for this. It's so good,

1399
01:30:16,079 --> 01:30:19,479
my favorite one for like just like
things this shout doom, death, desire,

1400
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:25,840
desire to do. I was like, yesk lyricism right there, just

1401
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:32,119
like no nonre is like poetry.
That to me the best one foal Like

1402
01:30:32,159 --> 01:30:34,920
when I saw that was like felt, fuck, we're fucking saving that for

1403
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:41,640
last. Let me tell you.
I mean you could just copy and paste

1404
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,479
one about saying about basically all the
songs, but it like it's just shouting

1405
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:49,199
the song title over two chords and
slave the blade like whatever, gash scrape

1406
01:30:49,239 --> 01:30:51,680
Master is a dungeon lost. It's
like I just think of that kid on

1407
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,479
the Fat Boys Slim album, which
I'm number one, so why try harder?

1408
01:30:55,600 --> 01:31:00,880
It's like effoot is as let we
don't need here right, keep it

1409
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,479
simple. I was gonna say work
smart and not hard, but you're not

1410
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:09,399
working smart, You're working dumb.
You stick to dumb and you can't go

1411
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:15,239
far wrong. And merciless slaughter both
words spelt completely wrong. Another banger,

1412
01:31:15,239 --> 01:31:17,239
I mean, and the bits where
I was going, oh, this is

1413
01:31:17,239 --> 01:31:21,760
actually quite interesting or like this dungeon
LUs, I was like, that's kind

1414
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,960
of killing Joe Griff. I was, I'm amazed that that's notable that are

1415
01:31:26,039 --> 01:31:30,000
riff drones on a midnight record,
And I'm like, ah, that's pretty

1416
01:31:30,039 --> 01:31:33,239
neat. Yeah to me, Like
Gash Scrape feels like it should be the

1417
01:31:33,319 --> 01:31:38,079
kind of ignorant punk track on the
record, which I guess in vibe it

1418
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:41,039
kind of is because he's really flaming
all over that one. But the fact

1419
01:31:41,039 --> 01:31:44,439
that there's actually a shorter someng on
in Slave of the Blade, which is

1420
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,439
like a trad metal song that's kind
of like almost that eighties glam touched the

1421
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,840
riffing at points, Yeah, I
kind of show you, which he does,

1422
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:54,760
but it's one minute fifty seconds long. It's like, you know,

1423
01:31:55,239 --> 01:31:58,640
fucking lift that off the kind of
Ace of Spades album. Make it crustier

1424
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:02,520
or something. The way he just
builds into like the way the chorus comes

1425
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:06,439
in and expect total hell. It's
just really satisfying where you can you can

1426
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:11,319
feel him building up to that title
line before he actually says it, you

1427
01:32:11,319 --> 01:32:14,760
know, with the kind of expect
you if it feels good, Yeah,

1428
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:18,640
it feels good when he gets there
to the total hell and that title guessing

1429
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:23,239
game. I was playing first run
through of Dungeon Lust. He goes webs

1430
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,199
and dust and I thought, oh, that's it. Then I would get

1431
01:32:26,279 --> 01:32:29,319
jump scared, like with a fucking
rabid you know, dager Last, like

1432
01:32:29,399 --> 01:32:33,439
the fucking Scary Vase game or something. It's brilliant and that like unhinged vocal

1433
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,399
delivery that just sounds like a you
know, a demon leading a gang of

1434
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:41,720
hoodlums all cramming into yell at together, which is the perfect conduit for watching

1435
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:45,680
them live. The more necro backing
vocal that chimes in or nuclear savior to

1436
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,399
complete the chorus really great. It's
just it's one of the most kind of

1437
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:54,600
immediately infectious sounds to my ear that
there is. And the whips at the

1438
01:32:54,680 --> 01:33:00,159
end of Dungeon Lust. It would
creep away song, and it likes a

1439
01:33:00,159 --> 01:33:02,840
song called Dungeon Lust. I would
be disappointed if there wasn't a whip cracking

1440
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:08,680
to be honest with he knows exactly
he understands the assignment per se. Yeah,

1441
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,560
I still can't believe they're from Ohio. It just doesn't compute. It's

1442
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,319
how are they They are the most
finished band there has ever been. Oh

1443
01:33:15,399 --> 01:33:19,039
no, to me, this really
it really makes sense as one guy in

1444
01:33:19,119 --> 01:33:24,680
a kind of like middle of nowhere
state of America just doing this one thing.

1445
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,359
It's got a weird oh mentality,
you know, it's got out.

1446
01:33:27,399 --> 01:33:30,840
It's probably outsider in that regard in
that. Yeah, like this one dude

1447
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,239
who just wants to make all the
noise, I assue, you meanwhere like

1448
01:33:32,399 --> 01:33:36,680
it doesn't sound like positive in American
but because it's got that punk att you

1449
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:41,560
that's why I can sorta sly where
like weirdo in America just wanted to make

1450
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:45,079
a racket, but they managed to
make it sound He manages to make it

1451
01:33:45,079 --> 01:33:47,359
sound so live. That's the thing
that always blows me away about Midnight.

1452
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:54,239
Normally you can hear when when it's
one person and like that's not even necessarily

1453
01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:57,159
a criticism that can be for better
or for worse. But there's songs on

1454
01:33:57,199 --> 01:34:00,039
it, and when they end,
They sound like the band finishing it for

1455
01:34:00,079 --> 01:34:04,439
the first time was brilliant. And
it's like, if you're one guy recording

1456
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:08,239
everything separately, you could tighten that
up as much as you want, but

1457
01:34:09,279 --> 01:34:14,680
Midnight understands that's in that sort of
imperfection and if you don't have a weekend,

1458
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:18,000
you haven't got time to tie it
up. But like it makes the

1459
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:23,439
whole thing feel so much more,
seems more weirdly words use kind of legit.

1460
01:34:24,319 --> 01:34:27,960
Yeah, absolutely, I think he
is a wicked solo player again,

1461
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:31,720
like check out expectatle Hell or the
Shredding over Nuclear Savior, But this feeling

1462
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:38,279
like the most straight to the point, direct nobullshit even amongst Midnight albums,

1463
01:34:38,359 --> 01:34:42,000
Like there was no fact to shave
off, but this one has shaved it,

1464
01:34:42,039 --> 01:34:45,520
you know, tempo changes in this
one minus Like the one song that

1465
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,479
made me turn my head in terms
of like a new tone or approach coming

1466
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:54,079
in is when Merciless Slaughter hits.
That's which stomp and it's so fuggish.

1467
01:34:54,119 --> 01:34:58,479
Somehow the distortion on that tone just
goes off the charts. It reminds me

1468
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,520
of like late nineties Motorhead like records
like Snake Bite Love or whatever, like

1469
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:06,159
drawing a kind of Phil Campbell era
not Fast Motorhead, and it's so thick

1470
01:35:06,239 --> 01:35:11,000
and nasty, it's like foaming at
the mouth and just so repetitive and bludgeoning.

1471
01:35:11,039 --> 01:35:14,880
And once again you're saying mercy less
slot all. You read the title

1472
01:35:15,119 --> 01:35:16,680
and how it's spelled, and then
when he sings it, you go,

1473
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,920
oh, yeah, that's how you
said it. Like I want to know,

1474
01:35:20,239 --> 01:35:24,800
like did he spell it like that
first and alter his delivery or did

1475
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,640
he do what came out and change
the word afterwards, because like, you

1476
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:31,640
can't argue he says mercy less slatter
all. I wonder if you take him

1477
01:35:32,199 --> 01:35:41,000
I didn't say merciless brilliant, you
know, just put into guitar melodies,

1478
01:35:41,039 --> 01:35:45,000
into that very basic template. Marten
Deadly is a good one at the start,

1479
01:35:45,159 --> 01:35:46,439
and the peak of that, which
is genuinely quite magical, I think

1480
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:53,479
is f O A L. Which
I'm imagining the writing process for that is

1481
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,640
hysterical to me, because like,
okay, dark Throne, I've got fuck

1482
01:35:56,720 --> 01:36:03,399
off and die. We'll say fuck
off and live because that's worse. This

1483
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:10,640
is maybe my favorite midnight song.
I'm not sure it's the kind of idea.

1484
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:14,960
If you're a comedy metal band,
you would be high fiving for weeks

1485
01:36:15,239 --> 01:36:17,800
for having thought of it. Why
would I want you to die so you

1486
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,239
could be free? Don't want you
to don't want to see you in hell,

1487
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:25,960
not next to me. This guy, he doesn't want his enemies to

1488
01:36:26,039 --> 01:36:30,640
die because he's already in hell and
they'll be sent to while there is roommates

1489
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:34,119
and he'll have to be around.
That will make it worse for self acceptance

1490
01:36:34,159 --> 01:36:38,479
that you know you're in hell.
It's so good and that was again it

1491
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,840
was the lead single from this and
that's just that's going in the cannon of

1492
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,640
all the great midnight songs that he's
built that you want to see live because

1493
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:48,560
it's so catchy and anthemic. The
guitar melody is actually sensational. Is the

1494
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:53,079
thing like the new wave British heavy
metal style melody that comes through in that

1495
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,239
I find genuinely soul stirring. You
know, the leads over that main riff

1496
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:01,720
they burst with so much like fuck
yeah, amps rippling with joy, and

1497
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:06,880
you combine that uplifting feeling with a
chorus of fuck off, fuck off and

1498
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:11,159
live. You hear that once and
you're ready to fucking you know, finger

1499
01:37:11,159 --> 01:37:15,600
in the air sing along. Like
you say about the solos, it's it's

1500
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,399
for me. It's one of the
most underrated aspects of Motorhead. Who will

1501
01:37:18,399 --> 01:37:24,239
clear the biggest inspiration on Midnight Fast
End Clott Phil Campbell, both of them

1502
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:28,720
and the others at their best,
they had a real way of lifting the

1503
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,960
songs. Like the end of Overkill
with the solo is just it goes from

1504
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,600
a ten out of ten to a
ten out of ten out of ten when

1505
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:39,000
that solo comes in, and Midnight
understands that, Like a lot of bands

1506
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,199
would probably think, oh, it's
all about the bass and the low end

1507
01:37:41,279 --> 01:37:45,800
riff and the double and all that. But when the lead comes in on

1508
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,720
fuck Off and Live, I think, I am. I Am going to

1509
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:53,399
fuck off and live. That's the
plan, Like I just think, Like

1510
01:37:53,399 --> 01:37:58,560
like you say, it manages to
make you feel happy when you're being shouted

1511
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,840
at to live to avoid hell,
which is where the guy is and he

1512
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,039
hates you so much, doesn't want
to be in hell with you because you

1513
01:38:04,039 --> 01:38:10,560
would make hell worse for him.
It's just heavy metal is so fucking good.

1514
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,319
I feel like that. That's why
I find that hard time to go

1515
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,920
like this was written in like a
weekend because it has actually got like really

1516
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:20,479
great moments like those shows that do
lift songs. It doesn't feel have hazard

1517
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:25,199
rushed and sloppy, even if again
it does feel like he's just played it

1518
01:38:25,319 --> 01:38:28,279
entirely on instinct. It's just great
spontaneity, isn't it. Yeah, that's

1519
01:38:28,319 --> 01:38:30,319
it. I think that's it is
the greatest spontaneity. But like fucking lim

1520
01:38:30,399 --> 01:38:34,680
does actually like feel genuinely liberating,
and again why it's why I would put

1521
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,600
on a metal album where it's just
like or a punk at it has all

1522
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,880
of that appeal to me where I'm
like, I love hardcrun punk and hay

1523
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,800
metal, so I'm getting it all
in this what like well Wind of Noise

1524
01:38:45,319 --> 01:38:48,199
that is just completely free of any
bullshit and I think it's just like one

1525
01:38:48,199 --> 01:38:53,399
of the most joyous sounds. Yeah, I think, you know, one

1526
01:38:53,399 --> 01:38:56,439
of the best metal songs of twenty
twenty fourth so far, lovely Stuff.

1527
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:00,000
Midnight got more punk with this album, you know. It's like the last

1528
01:39:00,039 --> 01:39:02,279
several albums, which are the ones
that we've been reviewing, they are actually

1529
01:39:02,279 --> 01:39:08,439
of a much higher recording standard and
everything than like where he started off in

1530
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:11,680
the really stinky underground. Like,
this is a good sounding album. He

1531
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:15,279
has great tones that are very recognizable. Midnight albums just immediately sound like midnight

1532
01:39:15,319 --> 01:39:19,439
albums. But this is, I
guess, in this current era, a

1533
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:23,439
step back to the more primal thing
that he does. If Let There Be

1534
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:27,880
Witchery was too complex and pretentious for
you, you know, it's it's not

1535
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,319
clever, it's not fancy. This
might be about the best album that you

1536
01:39:30,359 --> 01:39:38,479
could feasibly write in a weekend.
I'll say it's probably my favorite midnight album

1537
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:44,279
since at least the second one,
maybe the first one. Wow. I

1538
01:39:44,319 --> 01:39:46,159
as much as like you said,
Let There Be Witchery and Rebuth by Blasting,

1539
01:39:46,199 --> 01:39:50,640
both of them are fucking excellent.
I do just want to be clubbed

1540
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:56,119
in the head, to be honest, and this does that better than maybe

1541
01:39:56,199 --> 01:39:59,479
any of his records. Yeah,
I think the last few are fucking brilliant,

1542
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:01,079
particularly re Birth by Blasphemy, I
think is up there with his best.

1543
01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:03,920
But I think they're all good.
And I like that this record made

1544
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:08,439
me reference the Motorhead albums Snake Bite
Love. I don't think that's ever happened

1545
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,680
before. You know, he's on
tour in the UK next month. Hikerlanda

1546
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:17,279
playing with it as well. Guaranteed
great times geticular with these in the pocket.

1547
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:23,199
All right. Not the busiest month
for like proper punk stuff. But

1548
01:40:23,359 --> 01:40:27,119
the most significant one we have comes
from gouage Away and it's their album called

1549
01:40:27,199 --> 01:40:30,800
Deep Sage. It's the new album
from the Floridian punk band to gage Away.

1550
01:40:31,039 --> 01:40:34,840
It's the follow up to their album
Burnt Sugar, which was reviewed on

1551
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:39,479
the show way back around when I
first joined, I did not realize that

1552
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:44,000
their last album was so long ago. It's been six years, which for

1553
01:40:44,079 --> 01:40:47,319
a punk band, you make half
hour long records a staggering amount of time.

1554
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:53,079
Think about the hardcore landscape in twenty
eighteen versus now, Like things move

1555
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:57,600
so fast in that world, Like
the entire gult rise and fall happens in

1556
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,520
that time. Yeah, yeah,
I mean part of it was because,

1557
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,640
I mean the story of this album
was obviously they had this album written and

1558
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:11,680
then they scrapped him, kind of
quietly broke up over COVID for a while.

1559
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,760
They all kind of went off their
ways and it just wasn't working for

1560
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:16,079
them. So that's why there's been
such a huge gap. And then I

1561
01:41:16,079 --> 01:41:19,680
think like Clear at some point decided
to reconvene, pick up the scraps from

1562
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:25,399
this album and kind of reassemble it. Yeah, I guess it is impressive

1563
01:41:25,399 --> 01:41:30,159
that Goage Away have managed to maintain
a sort of like name recognition after those

1564
01:41:30,239 --> 01:41:31,439
years. You know, like they
went on a bit of hiatus that only

1565
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:35,399
ended in twenty twenty two, but
they have been a presence since on you

1566
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:39,079
know, hardcore festivals and things like
that, and it feels like there is

1567
01:41:39,119 --> 01:41:42,920
still a kind of, you know, a demand for Garage Away. Yeah.

1568
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,039
I think that just because those early
records and the kind of the reputation

1569
01:41:45,079 --> 01:41:48,920
they built up on them garnered them
so much good will that if they had

1570
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:54,560
to then you know, go away
and becoming active for a while, there

1571
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,119
was still going to be a level
of excitement for when they did return.

1572
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:00,720
Yeah, And you know, I
have not spent much much timing in those

1573
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:02,479
years listening to Goageway, I will
be honest, but I do remember enjoying

1574
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:08,359
that last album. And this is
obviously our you know, like punk alternative

1575
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:13,760
kind of representative for this episode,
which is I guess an interesting place to

1576
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,319
consider sort of like what part of
that Goage Away actually sort of fit into

1577
01:42:16,359 --> 01:42:18,760
because they're they're sort of a funny
band where you're like, are they a

1578
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:23,239
hardcore band? Are they like an
alternative rock band? They kind of meld

1579
01:42:23,239 --> 01:42:27,439
a few different textures. Yeah,
and I think that's become even more kind

1580
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:30,359
of a thing on this album,
particularly where the previous albums there was there

1581
01:42:30,399 --> 01:42:33,159
was some a bit scrappier about them
that you could always kind of like loop

1582
01:42:33,199 --> 01:42:40,359
it back to melicarily hardcore but punk. At least this isn't as kind of

1583
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:44,439
like clearly a punk record there there's
a bit I think there's more going on

1584
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:46,760
here again where it does branch out
and touch into a few different areas.

1585
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,479
Yeah, and Sam, this was
the album this month that you were like

1586
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:53,439
keen to put on, So like, what is it about Goage Away that's

1587
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:56,960
kind of made you a fan?
Well, I always thought they were just

1588
01:42:57,000 --> 01:43:00,600
like when they emerged, they were
just a really cool band who had just

1589
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,000
such a like different energy about them. Where again, even in the hardcore

1590
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:06,720
sing where they were they emerge,
it was kind of like in the post

1591
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:11,520
Turnstile blowing Up kind of years were
they still felt totally different to a lot

1592
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:15,479
of Walsh was going on around them. They weren't doing what Vane or Code

1593
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,680
Orange or Turnstile were doing. They
had their own kind of laying they were

1594
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:21,319
carving out, which I found really
exciting and I was really good when they

1595
01:43:21,359 --> 01:43:25,760
did just kind of like fade away. So them coming back was when I

1596
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:29,680
was just going to be all in
on and seeing where they do they again,

1597
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:31,800
where hardcore has changed so much,
do they pick up on kind of

1598
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:36,600
what they were doing before, or
do they morph themselves to fit more into

1599
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:41,640
the current hardcore landscape. Yeah,
And like going back to the Burnt Sugar

1600
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,680
album, it's kind of the thing
that really sort of stands out was kind

1601
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,199
of apart from the hardcore class of
twenty eighteen or whatever. It's kind of

1602
01:43:47,199 --> 01:43:51,319
the full on noise rock aspect of
it, and that Elliot that leads me

1603
01:43:51,359 --> 01:43:55,239
to guess that you would probably get
on very well with this as well in

1604
01:43:55,319 --> 01:43:59,159
terms of that kind of Jesus lizardy
discordant quality when we're talking about like an

1605
01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:03,239
alternative record. Yeah, that's always
been my favorite aspect of gouge Away,

1606
01:44:03,319 --> 01:44:11,520
particularly like in the realm of the
hardcore outbreak adjacent alternative rock acts that maybe

1607
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,159
they sort of they came up around
the same time. I like the Melvins

1608
01:44:14,199 --> 01:44:16,680
of Outbreak, you know, exactly, because you know all those bands they

1609
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:21,359
look at Smashing Pumpkins and Harmon the
like, and I just like that Goageway,

1610
01:44:21,359 --> 01:44:26,640
look at Fugazia at their nassiest Jesus
Lizard, Lightning Bolt, Melvin's and

1611
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:30,920
all that, And for them to
sit in the sense of something like between

1612
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:35,920
that, which is such an austere, unwelcoming, kind of callous form of

1613
01:44:36,039 --> 01:44:42,479
music, and also emotional hardcore,
which is so harsh on sleeve. The

1614
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:46,159
way they found a kind of bisect
in the middle of those two things,

1615
01:44:46,159 --> 01:44:48,920
I always thought was so cool.
And that's why I'm kind of surprised to

1616
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:54,520
hear that this they had this record
written a while ago, because in some

1617
01:44:54,680 --> 01:45:00,199
way, this album feels like,
if not a reaction, quite a deliberate

1618
01:45:00,239 --> 01:45:03,880
move to keep up with where hardcore's
gone since twenty eighteen, because, like

1619
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,159
you say, it's a very different
place, and there's quite a lot of

1620
01:45:08,199 --> 01:45:15,079
bands now where they sit right in
that gray area between old rock and hardcore,

1621
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:24,399
and this definitely feels like they're biggest
leap into that territory. They have

1622
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:29,039
maintained enough of that Jesus Lizard Lightning
Bolts sound. Yeah, I think maybe

1623
01:45:29,039 --> 01:45:34,000
that is gouge Away being perhaps slightly
ahead of where you know, things were

1624
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:38,399
maybe gonna go, and they were
kind of, you know, organically arriving

1625
01:45:38,399 --> 01:45:40,920
at this place anyway. I mean
it's recorded with Jack Shirley, who,

1626
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,119
in terms of you're talking about the
emotional hardcore side as well as like the

1627
01:45:44,119 --> 01:45:47,920
full on, you know, dark
fucking, you know heavy stuff, is

1628
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:51,319
someone who can thread those lines in
terms of what he's worked on and stuff

1629
01:45:51,359 --> 01:45:56,119
like that. And I think that
kind of again going back to Burnt Sugar

1630
01:45:56,159 --> 01:45:58,039
and hearing that element in there being
like, oh that's cool, and again

1631
01:45:58,079 --> 01:46:01,840
the first dabblings with and stuff that
they have on that record, This record,

1632
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:05,039
to me sounds like a lot more
of those ideas, kind of you

1633
01:46:05,079 --> 01:46:12,199
know, coming to fruition and sounding
like a more I don't think confident is

1634
01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:15,079
the right word, but a more
fully realized version. Yeah, I definitely

1635
01:46:15,079 --> 01:46:19,199
agree this is like taking those kind
of noise or aspects and realism because this

1636
01:46:19,279 --> 01:46:26,039
is a like quite a dark,
oppressive album at points in what is of

1637
01:46:26,039 --> 01:46:29,720
course still a scrappy punk album.
Just as frequently I think like there's a

1638
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:32,640
really like I didn't know if there's
anyone going around in sort hargle that actually

1639
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,560
sounds like quite what Gouge we're doing. Because there are a lot of bands,

1640
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:40,039
you know, have their hardcores their
base and then branch onto different things,

1641
01:46:40,199 --> 01:46:42,680
and like, I mean, there
is you know, bits of post

1642
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,640
punk on this, which every band
seems to have to bring in it some

1643
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:47,680
to some extent. But again,
I think Gouage we're doing it in a

1644
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:50,880
way that doesn't feel like we're doing
the obvious post punk thing here, that

1645
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:55,439
they're kind of just morphing into part
of this like weird dark, kind of

1646
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:59,239
nightmarish hardcore sound they're they're doing.
Yeah, And the idea that this band

1647
01:46:59,359 --> 01:47:02,640
are quite popular in like hardcore circles
is it's quite funny because obviously you can

1648
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:08,600
see the connection, but also like
you're not really gonna mosh for these songs,

1649
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,520
you know that there are a lot
more kind of like uh, you

1650
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:16,800
know, sort of jagged and kind
of you know, uncrowd pleasing in that

1651
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:21,520
regard, someone like early post hardcore
in that kind of way. The definitely,

1652
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:25,840
and they've they've got the kind of
you know, obviously kind of alt

1653
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:30,920
rock awkwardness of Pixies and Breeders that
they're more kind of like clanging and discord

1654
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,600
and obviously not surprising given there where
their name comes from, but they're kind

1655
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,920
of bringing that into that kind of
like you know, angry punk kind of

1656
01:47:38,279 --> 01:47:40,399
basis, and you know, someone
like Stuck in a Dream, Is that

1657
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:45,119
really just like anxiety attack kind of
panicking elements of that kind of noise rock,

1658
01:47:45,199 --> 01:47:47,880
just like hammering on this idea and
repeating this like central you know,

1659
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:55,000
phrase and thing like it's really fucking
just like in the throes of something that's

1660
01:47:55,119 --> 01:47:59,199
like a really rattled song where it
is kind of like clanging and crashing about

1661
01:47:59,239 --> 01:48:02,720
like the drums. It's I'm really
like rickety and ragged and like I think

1662
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,159
we're seeing the vocally. I think
she's fantastic on this album. It's like

1663
01:48:05,199 --> 01:48:10,560
being just like a costing and supermarket
and fucking scrimthing like her screech on this

1664
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:15,399
is like genuinely like pained and it's
like uncomfortable to this to where it's not

1665
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:18,600
like a like a proper like hardcore
bark or a really like trained screaming.

1666
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:23,560
It's just kind of like frantic kind
of like wail from this woman who is

1667
01:48:24,119 --> 01:48:27,800
working through some shit. And even
when it goes like softer on the like

1668
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,920
the end of the eyes want to
wake up, they're like, the pain

1669
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,520
is still there, it's just kind
of like exhausted and burnt out. By

1670
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,880
that point, I think it says
a lot that this is clearly the least

1671
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:40,279
hardcore record they've ever done. And
yeah, I've not seen any talk of,

1672
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:43,960
oh, gouage away, I've gone
soft, or they've they've gone alt

1673
01:48:44,079 --> 01:48:49,119
rock or whatever, because it's as
like you say, anxiety inducing and aggressive

1674
01:48:49,279 --> 01:48:55,439
as basically anything they've done. And
I'm so impressed by their ability to make

1675
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:59,399
songs genuinely feel like streams of consciousness, which so many bands striveele And it's

1676
01:48:59,399 --> 01:49:01,880
such a it's a that Sony bands
say the lyrics here, we just let

1677
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:06,000
it all flow out, and that
might be true, but it doesn't feel

1678
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:12,079
that way. But Stuck in a
Dream as an opener, it's a weird

1679
01:49:12,079 --> 01:49:15,000
record cause it kind of sets you
up for what you're getting, but it's

1680
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,159
so unwelcoming, Like you put that
on and you just go, do you

1681
01:49:18,199 --> 01:49:21,239
do you want me to listen to
this? I'll go, I don't have

1682
01:49:21,279 --> 01:49:27,319
to because it's so just I mean, the supermarket analogy works perfectly. It

1683
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:32,720
just it puts you on edge so
quickly. Yeah, and the singer Christina

1684
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:38,079
is just putting a fucking fit in, you know, like the sharpening when

1685
01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:42,000
she is hollering on that like maybe
it's not me, it's like Julie Christmas

1686
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,720
in Made out of Babies or something
just like that, really like you in

1687
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:46,880
an intended way. He kind of
nails down a chalkboard like that song is

1688
01:49:47,359 --> 01:49:54,800
ferocious, but it's also it's not
just like unhinged insanity. She also sounds

1689
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:58,880
cool when she does it in a
weird word like maybe blue with that opening

1690
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:00,640
line, your hair has been getting
longer food and for it just going bad.

1691
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:04,760
She sounds a bit like the guy
from the Bronx. She's got that

1692
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:11,560
kind of lack of daisical but still
dangerous flare that that guy has. It's

1693
01:50:12,159 --> 01:50:15,039
I mean, it reminded me of
the immortal fuck the gun in the yard.

1694
01:50:15,039 --> 01:50:17,680
I can't tend to my own dreams
like lyrically, and it has a

1695
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:23,760
bit more bite than that. Maybe
Blue Hairs is kind of like indie dance

1696
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,319
kind of vibe to it, but
it's got that bite and aggression. That's

1697
01:50:26,319 --> 01:50:30,279
the thing that like cool vibe comes
from, where it's quite like laid back

1698
01:50:30,319 --> 01:50:32,359
and playful in the music, but
there is just this like it's got a

1699
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:35,039
knife, it's gonna stab at you
at any moment, Like there is a

1700
01:50:35,159 --> 01:50:40,640
there is an unpredictability that makes this
album really cool and exciting. Yeah,

1701
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:44,399
that's one of my favorite songs on
this record. It's got that like jagged,

1702
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,640
catchy rock riff and it's kind of
you know, they've added that sort

1703
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:51,880
of sense of like slacker rock cool
kind of melody into the arrangement. It's

1704
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:56,800
like kind of honky piano thing going
through it, but the vocals are still

1705
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:00,079
just like super wailing and a tonal
and there's a cool sort of offset vibe

1706
01:51:00,119 --> 01:51:03,960
they really nail there, and they
revisit that sort of like driving rock and

1707
01:51:04,039 --> 01:51:08,239
roll feeling spaced out later on,
and it's quite compelling hearing you know,

1708
01:51:09,079 --> 01:51:12,600
something like that, topped off by
this like dysfunctional, fuck up car crash

1709
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,479
kind of energy with that, I
just want to be spaced out all that

1710
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:17,119
kind of you know, like the
best song they can do in one minute

1711
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:23,279
forty five seconds. I think that
the lead single idealized. It's fun that

1712
01:51:23,319 --> 01:51:28,479
that record, that song in the
record kind of transitions almost it's like the

1713
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:32,239
sleepy after effect of maybe blue like
but the way that song comes to life

1714
01:51:32,279 --> 01:51:35,640
again and prevents in the record,
the kind of the first taste of you

1715
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:39,840
know, kind of vocal dynamic and
melody. I think that is a moment

1716
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,359
of the record, you know,
opening up. And I think that song

1717
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:44,880
is it's not even what you would
describe as a hit, you know,

1718
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:47,520
like it's probably actually less catchy than
the first two songs because it's not shouting

1719
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:50,760
one kind of same you know,
drilling a hook into you. But it's

1720
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:57,159
a very you know, snaky type
of melodic song and stuff like that or

1721
01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:01,159
a welcome change are you know.
They don't raise their voice too much,

1722
01:52:01,199 --> 01:52:03,760
and I don't think, you know, not every track on this record is

1723
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:08,479
electrifying. Maybe, but I think
as an album with a relatively quick run

1724
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:10,640
time, obviously it's literally there in
the title of that song, like it's

1725
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:14,359
a stronger sense of dynamics than just
sort of ramping up that panic attack call

1726
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:15,039
it the who Way Through. And
I think that's something they really, you

1727
01:52:15,079 --> 01:52:18,520
know, they managed to kind of
balance on this record. Yeah, I

1728
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:23,199
think those like slower, softer songs
that idealized We're like, I'd feel as

1729
01:52:23,199 --> 01:52:27,079
like it starts by winding up for
like a big riff and then almost me

1730
01:52:27,159 --> 01:52:31,239
it kind of SLINKs back into this
kind of dreamlike kind of ambience. It's

1731
01:52:31,319 --> 01:52:34,720
really pretty with some of the oozers
for that, but again it still feels

1732
01:52:35,399 --> 01:52:39,680
like there's that day there where,
like even on something that I does where

1733
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:43,039
it's quite pretty, you get that
scream of no apology that kind of just

1734
01:52:43,399 --> 01:52:46,279
again feels like a violent lashing out
and a welcome change, has so much

1735
01:52:46,359 --> 01:52:51,039
like gothic kind of moodiness to it, and it's sort of where it feels

1736
01:52:51,039 --> 01:52:55,640
like it's again threatening to come at
you, but never wanting to give you

1737
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:59,479
the sort of gratification of like having
that big release. And they kind of

1738
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:04,239
just out these these songs in a
kind of really awkward feeling, which just

1739
01:53:04,279 --> 01:53:08,119
adds to the kind of panic attack
feeling of the album. I think they're

1740
01:53:08,119 --> 01:53:10,880
really get to have their cake and
eat it on those two songs, because

1741
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:17,079
it's they get to do these softer
moments without sacrificing that tension. Because especially

1742
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:21,920
idolized, you know, you are
like a small festival and the stages are

1743
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:26,600
too close and you're watching one band
and hear them tuning up. Yeah,

1744
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:30,920
this is like if you're watching some
of like Phoebe Bridges or some like bedroom

1745
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:35,399
pop artists and Scratch Acid are warming
up on the next stage, Like just

1746
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:39,600
when you're kind of relaxing, getting
into the mood of it, you will

1747
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:44,520
just get these little discordant stabs just
running like a little bit bits of lemon

1748
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,199
juice in your ear. And they
manage to give these songs that don't never

1749
01:53:47,319 --> 01:53:51,479
like you say, they never really
snap or unleash any bile. They just

1750
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:55,560
give it that menace. Yeah,
and I think you know, you could

1751
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:58,439
hear that stuff sort of beginning to
blossom on the previous record, But like

1752
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:01,359
this covers more ground thirty four minutes
than that did. There's more thought into

1753
01:54:01,359 --> 01:54:04,279
the sequencing, and you know,
there's more chance than of arriving at something

1754
01:54:04,319 --> 01:54:08,680
like Dallas, which you know basically
alone takes it over the half hour mark

1755
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:12,560
by itself by kind of leaning into
kind of a long form, full on

1756
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:15,880
Shoegaz tap track, and you know, she sounds really good on that song

1757
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,159
in terms of carrying a more tender
kind of feeling, and it has some

1758
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:23,920
really like ear catching, you know, kind of raw lyrics, and the

1759
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:27,840
first three minutes of that are really
bleak, but in this dreamy kind of

1760
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:30,680
way, and then the halftime switch
for the rest and the vocals getting that

1761
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,760
bit more desperate. It kind of
it's kind of heartwrenching the way it record

1762
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:38,600
ends. Yeah, like Dallas for
me, because one where that the vocals

1763
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,920
really take that shift where they they
do go to the full on kind of

1764
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,760
like shoegaze haziness. But again,
it still never feels that they've sounded down

1765
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:50,520
the edges or made it too pretty
where it doesn't feel like the pain that's

1766
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:55,800
kind of like fed through the entire
album has been lost, and like it

1767
01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:57,960
almost feels that they're trying to find
a little hope at the end of the

1768
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:02,399
album, but it can't fully eight
from like the darker elements. Sometimes when

1769
01:55:02,479 --> 01:55:05,760
bands throw shoegaze or like ambient songs
at the end, it kind of feels

1770
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:10,800
like the credits rolling or the song
playing after the gig where you kind of

1771
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:13,279
get up your stretch, you go, oh, that was a nice time

1772
01:55:13,279 --> 01:55:17,399
I listened to. This is the
longest song on the record, and yet

1773
01:55:18,079 --> 01:55:21,840
it feels like almost like the least
planned out, and I mean that in

1774
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:25,960
a positive way, because there isn't
really a natural build up to it,

1775
01:55:26,319 --> 01:55:30,000
and it's six minutes that, like
you say, the climax in air quotes

1776
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:34,840
of it is really heart rendering,
heartbreaking. But it changes tempo in a

1777
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:42,720
really unnatural sounds kind of improvers improvis
what's the word improvisational way, and no

1778
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:46,920
two of vocal lines, even with
the same lyrics sound all that alike.

1779
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,119
It's really strange. Again, it
goes completely against stuff like post rock and

1780
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:55,800
shoegaze, where repetition and that hypnotic
thing is on the agenda. It's almost

1781
01:55:55,840 --> 01:56:00,560
like you can't quite settle in.
The nervous energy is woven into even what

1782
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:05,159
should be the most relaxing song on
the record. Yeah, and it's kind

1783
01:56:05,159 --> 01:56:09,640
of you know, arriving at that. But at the same time, I

1784
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:11,840
really like the weird, oh big
black type grooves, you know, like

1785
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:15,199
stuff like the title track, that
repetitive based groove against that kind of tambourine

1786
01:56:15,279 --> 01:56:17,159
or whatever it is in the back
kind of moving against it. It's got

1787
01:56:17,199 --> 01:56:21,399
a kind of offbeat, gangly but
hooky type quality. There's really bouncy punk

1788
01:56:21,479 --> 01:56:25,960
energy that comes out in the time
like no release at its core could be

1789
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:30,600
something that you'd have handed the most
traditional hardcore song almost that sounds like something

1790
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:32,600
that you could have handed to Milk
Teeth or someone. But the way Gouge

1791
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:36,000
Away you play and deliver it,
it just comes out wrong in this kind

1792
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:40,560
of warring like that. For me, that's my favorite song with this record,

1793
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:45,479
I think in terms of like how
utterly rotted it is. It's so

1794
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:47,680
like it's got like a hand clap
and it's like almost like yeahly, but

1795
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:54,680
it's so like poisoned from the inside
and like dying like slowly, and it's

1796
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,920
like this again, that's one where
I get it. It feels like you've

1797
01:56:58,119 --> 01:57:00,840
the whole. I took the sweetness
from the inside kind of hook and all

1798
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:05,560
that, and that's one of the
like the whole like creeping darkness and unsettling

1799
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:10,000
feeling is perfectly realized. I think
I Grabbing It probably is my favorite on

1800
01:57:10,039 --> 01:57:13,960
the album. Yeah, It's like
a catchy punk riff that's been like snapped

1801
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:16,439
in two and is having another played
over on the wrong Threats or something.

1802
01:57:16,479 --> 01:57:19,319
It's like it's just such a sickly
feeling and the way they add in those

1803
01:57:19,319 --> 01:57:21,640
hand claps and stuff, it just
makes it feel like a bit more perverse

1804
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:25,840
and like the thing that's means for
me is like the joyous happy moment the

1805
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:28,199
song on the claps coming. It's
always like, no, this is like

1806
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:30,319
mangled and twisted. Yeah, I
think, you know, amongst these more

1807
01:57:30,359 --> 01:57:33,680
kind of like olt rock leaning records, this is such a feel bad one

1808
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:38,239
and not just in a you know
shirt turkey Jesus Christ, I'm twenty six

1809
01:57:38,279 --> 01:57:41,880
way, it's more like a I'm
in the fetal position, mum, I

1810
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:45,720
don't feel too good, you know, way, even down to the artwork,

1811
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:48,039
having that upsetting like theatre mask kind
of. Yeah, like the whole

1812
01:57:48,199 --> 01:57:50,800
is just the whole thing is just
bad vibes. Absolutely, and I think

1813
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:55,640
it again, it's unique to me
having a band who you can put in

1814
01:57:55,680 --> 01:58:00,000
with the kind of trendy hardcore a
lot like that, but also couch slow

1815
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:03,720
and things like that and those you
know now the kind of noisy you know,

1816
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:08,359
underground punk that led into grund rather
than grunge itself. And yeah,

1817
01:58:08,439 --> 01:58:11,800
cool band. I'm glad that they
are like reasserting themselves as a thing in

1818
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:15,319
the current kind of punk scene because
it is it's more interesting for having them

1819
01:58:15,359 --> 01:58:18,520
in it. So all right,
we've only got six reviews this episode.

1820
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,479
There will be a couple more trickling
in in the next couple of weeks,

1821
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:25,560
but it meant I did have room
this time to sneak in something that at

1822
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:28,279
this point is about six weeks old. But I just want to talk about

1823
01:58:28,279 --> 01:58:30,800
it, and I think more people
should hear it. It's certainly in my

1824
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:33,920
top three of everything that has been
released thus far this year. It's Chapel

1825
01:58:34,239 --> 01:58:39,079
of Disease. The record is called
Echoes of Light. I've mentioned this a

1826
01:58:39,119 --> 01:58:41,760
couple of times now on the show
because again it's been out in the air

1827
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:44,800
for a little bit. I put
it in a hyperblast round up, thinking

1828
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:45,960
oh, that'd be a cool release
for me to check out when I get

1829
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:49,399
the moment, not necessarily expecting it
to force its way into the conversation here.

1830
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:53,479
I then saw them at Celestial Darkness
Festival in London earlier this month and

1831
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:55,399
they were one of the best bands
of the fest. It was all just

1832
01:58:55,439 --> 01:58:58,439
kind of, you know, pointing
to me making other people listen to this

1833
01:58:58,479 --> 01:59:01,079
record at some point, because I
think it's ext and I think that some

1834
01:59:01,119 --> 01:59:04,600
of the like some of the best
underground record for us to review are the

1835
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:10,279
ones that extreme metal sometimes produce,
these bands that don't really sound like anything

1836
01:59:10,319 --> 01:59:12,479
else in that world, and you
know, like, you know, we

1837
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:15,079
reviewed the Holder album last month,
for example, and I really love that

1838
01:59:15,119 --> 01:59:16,039
album, Like I was listened to
it again this week and I think it's

1839
01:59:16,039 --> 01:59:18,319
brilliant, But you Sam were just
like, well, this is just a

1840
01:59:18,359 --> 01:59:21,800
black metal album. I like to
kind of take the ortunity to spotlight bands

1841
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:27,239
who sound kind of weird and you
can't say that about them. The only

1842
01:59:27,319 --> 01:59:30,960
elevator pitchure I really have for Chaplain
Disease that I've sort of settled on is

1843
01:59:30,359 --> 01:59:34,880
if Tribulation, as they were transitioning
out of death metal instead of going goth,

1844
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:40,720
had turned to Dire Straits instead,
Like Tribulation is like about the only

1845
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:43,960
really obvious comparison point, and I
think obviously tells you a bit as to

1846
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:46,840
why I love this. But while
they've had the same trajectory of like starting

1847
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:50,840
off in death metal and over their
albums chipping it away into something unique,

1848
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:55,039
I guess you could say, you
know, horrendous, something similar, someone

1849
01:59:55,039 --> 01:59:58,880
like Mali Carpetown as well, but
the end point is different to all of

1850
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:01,840
those things, and to me has
arrived at the kind of fullest potential so

1851
02:00:02,039 --> 02:00:06,680
far of what this is. Yeah, I mean I had absolutely no clue

1852
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:10,760
what to expect him play from this, Like I was kind of just what

1853
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:13,720
to say. A band called Chaplin
Disease, I was kind of like death

1854
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:15,680
metal ball and that it echoes of
like it's quite spacey cover. I was

1855
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:18,279
like, well, I'm guessing this
is going to be proggy, So I

1856
02:00:18,399 --> 02:00:23,880
was a bit like on edge and
then hit playing you get these really lush,

1857
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:27,159
clean guitars almost to be lining,
and like that's just kind of one

1858
02:00:27,239 --> 02:00:30,319
flavor, Like because then I've had
all the shoegazs in Customers, you get

1859
02:00:30,319 --> 02:00:33,680
this like classic rock stra and I
was kind of like, there's a lot

1860
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:38,960
of sounds coming at me within the
first like minutes of this album. Yeah,

1861
02:00:39,119 --> 02:00:42,279
if you weren't following them and they're
trajector already they put in the song,

1862
02:00:42,279 --> 02:00:44,479
would be a really like oh what
is this? Yeah? I just

1863
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:49,960
couldn't settle into this first song and
was pleasantly, I guess, pleasantly surprised

1864
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:55,279
by how like I found this journey. Yeah, I I properly had to

1865
02:00:55,319 --> 02:00:58,640
double do a double take to see
that picked the right back because it's my

1866
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:01,119
first balance with Chaplin Disease. But
just on the name, I was like

1867
02:01:01,199 --> 02:01:05,800
grossy into death metal Boss Metals.
The name is literally it's a combination of

1868
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:10,039
Chapel of Ghouls and Angel Disease from
More butan Angel. That's why he's died

1869
02:01:10,079 --> 02:01:14,720
off exactly. Yeah. And I
didn't even pay attention to the album cover

1870
02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:16,399
or the album ties or anything.
I just thought Chapel of Disease, death

1871
02:01:16,439 --> 02:01:24,520
metal hick on the rifts, and
then a kind of breezy soft rock guitar

1872
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:29,159
riff comes in at the beginning,
and then over this record it's like I

1873
02:01:29,239 --> 02:01:32,319
suppose it's kind of death metal,
but there's post rock, and there's like

1874
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:40,560
eighty Shred and not even like like
yacht rock kind of like stuff. Yeah,

1875
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:43,680
and not even in like a kind
of when I say shred, I

1876
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:46,279
don't even necessarily mean like jak Lee. It's more like Eric Johnson. It's

1877
02:01:46,359 --> 02:01:50,720
kind of space rock, and it's
it's a it's again, it's a death

1878
02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:57,840
metal record, but it's almost completely
non aggressive the whole time, Like even

1879
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:02,039
as its heaviest, it feels pretty
breezy. It's literally death metal in vocal

1880
02:02:02,079 --> 02:02:05,800
only, I think at this point, like, yeah, So the first

1881
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:10,239
time that I heard of this band
was their last album came out in twenty

1882
02:02:10,279 --> 02:02:16,399
eighteen, and that again they'd started
off more as a underground, you know,

1883
02:02:17,279 --> 02:02:21,760
attack death metal band. That record, they started to put these big,

1884
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:28,199
insane classic rock guitar sections into that
more jagged death metal, and I

1885
02:02:28,199 --> 02:02:32,720
thought that was really cool. But
like now that the core death metal ripping

1886
02:02:33,079 --> 02:02:38,279
has been basically fashioned away into something
else and for me really feels like its

1887
02:02:38,319 --> 02:02:43,079
own thing. Despite having vocal melody
only in certain moments, this record is

1888
02:02:43,119 --> 02:02:46,600
all melody to me in such an
exhilarating way. On pure guitar melody.

1889
02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:49,960
This is the best album of the
year so far. The twin guitars together

1890
02:02:50,319 --> 02:02:56,800
are star performances. Again, I
have been listening to record very very consistently

1891
02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:00,680
for six weeks now. I fucking
love it. Don't know if I love

1892
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:03,159
this because I'm still kind of wrapping
my head around it and I'm the lead

1893
02:03:03,199 --> 02:03:09,239
again, Like its long again,
what is it? Yeah? But I

1894
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:14,880
will agree with you on a guitar
On the guitar front, melodic guitar front.

1895
02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:17,880
I think this album and it's best
is fucking outstanding. On that there

1896
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:23,279
was some absolutely gorgeous melodies, which
which is why I could really get and

1897
02:03:23,279 --> 02:03:26,600
that's why on the first track I
was actually kind of disappointed. When I

1898
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:30,000
was really loving these melodies and that
ground that grunt came in as vocal.

1899
02:03:30,079 --> 02:03:31,560
I was like, ah, and
again, I've kind of got fine with

1900
02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:34,000
that now, but it was kind
of just a bit like kind of was

1901
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:40,840
hoping for something like really lush and
pretty from this. I I don't know

1902
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:45,239
if I like this yet. Oh
no, And I'm just going how I

1903
02:03:45,279 --> 02:03:48,119
hoped You've got me on side and
not Elliott, what the fuck's got?

1904
02:03:48,279 --> 02:03:51,920
This is the rash pilling, isn't
it? Like this is the thing I'm

1905
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:57,159
not When you were saying earlier tribulation
by way of dire straits, I was

1906
02:03:57,199 --> 02:04:00,760
like, oh my yes, yes, yes, yes, I fucking that

1907
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:08,039
sounds so good. I I'm not
gonna come hard on this record right because

1908
02:04:08,039 --> 02:04:14,560
it's only been maybe six to seven
days I've been listening to it. There's

1909
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:18,760
things that I think. It's a
fascinating combination. I'm not sure where it's

1910
02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:23,520
landing with me just yet. But
I don't want to rush it. But

1911
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:30,479
there's things about this that I don't
think work as of the dates. Okay,

1912
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:34,319
I think that it's certainly it's a
sound that because it is very unique

1913
02:04:34,359 --> 02:04:38,720
and it is putting some things together
you might normally put together. I think

1914
02:04:39,119 --> 02:04:43,800
there will be definitely a degree of
kind of you know, performance variation in

1915
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:47,760
terms of how different people will take
take it in. Again, I put

1916
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:51,159
this on the week came out,
and my kind of I went ooh,

1917
02:04:51,479 --> 02:04:56,640
okay, this is cool, and
just going back to it again and again

1918
02:04:56,720 --> 02:05:02,159
and again. I love this album, great fucking deal. The main lead

1919
02:05:02,199 --> 02:05:08,760
at the start of the first track
is pure like Santana just seventies rock star.

1920
02:05:09,119 --> 02:05:12,039
It's sensational. It sets me so
in for a record of kind of

1921
02:05:12,039 --> 02:05:16,199
melody and pizaz and for me,
it totally achieves that. The vocal dynamic

1922
02:05:16,199 --> 02:05:19,960
again adds a different kind of quality. But in terms of the the what

1923
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:25,039
the songs are putting to the forward, those melodies and everything is so sick

1924
02:05:25,199 --> 02:05:27,720
to me. The main rock group
that comes in on the drums in that

1925
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:30,000
song and that kind of like,
again, I'm not a guitarist, so

1926
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:31,159
forgive the term, but that kind
of like whack a whacker kind of guitar

1927
02:05:31,239 --> 02:05:35,600
riff. It's so cool and unique
to hear in this context. It brings

1928
02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:39,439
in these kind of twinkly leads that
are like straight off of a Cavell Attack

1929
02:05:39,479 --> 02:05:42,920
record. I think that's again doesn't
out a Cavell Attack, but the level

1930
02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:47,640
of kind of like melodic rock meets
like an underground yeah grit combination. And

1931
02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:53,199
how refreshing that was when that band
broke through in a different, you know,

1932
02:05:53,279 --> 02:05:56,199
configuration of the things. That's kind
of what I'm feeling with this.

1933
02:05:56,319 --> 02:05:59,880
It's that but more kind of like
i'd say, more prog mind yeah,

1934
02:06:00,039 --> 02:06:02,399
and more kind of you know,
shadowy gothy, which totally works for me.

1935
02:06:03,079 --> 02:06:08,560
Yeah. Yeah. The combinations are
like, they are super amusing.

1936
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:11,079
At the very least. There's moments
one here where I thought, the only

1937
02:06:11,119 --> 02:06:14,880
way I feel like I can actually
describe this is by doing one of those

1938
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:18,199
like dumb genre jokes where it's like, oh, it's sambacore, or what

1939
02:06:18,479 --> 02:06:25,479
if you mixed grindcore with Latin jazz? Wouldn't that be wild? But it's

1940
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:28,479
that's kind of what I'm listening to. On the song Death Through No loss.

1941
02:06:28,479 --> 02:06:30,039
There's a bit in the middle where
I just thought, sorry, if

1942
02:06:30,079 --> 02:06:34,000
someone's done black and funk, it's
finally happened, like we've we've reached the

1943
02:06:34,119 --> 02:06:38,479
end of music, because fuck me, is this a band willing to throw

1944
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:41,880
some shit at the wall, Like
the things they throw together are insane.

1945
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:45,520
Thing for me, though, is
why old the combination of elements on paper

1946
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:50,960
feel very weird to me. The
record has such a consistent like this isn't

1947
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:55,479
this isn't the fucking this isn't the
event sevenfold record right now where they literally

1948
02:06:55,520 --> 02:07:00,159
a wish. They've grabbed a million
things that don't make sense together and put

1949
02:07:00,159 --> 02:07:02,359
the wall in the same songs.
This has a very consistent vibe. I

1950
02:07:02,399 --> 02:07:05,399
think it has a kind of image
that it's trying to place you in.

1951
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:08,720
And for me, the way I've
kind of, you know, come to

1952
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:13,760
terms with what the elements are is
it's it's like a completely different interpretation of

1953
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:17,640
what melodic death metal could be in
terms of like the melodic death metal kind

1954
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:20,359
of came about with you know,
death metal of the nineties, and then

1955
02:07:20,359 --> 02:07:26,840
they add heavy metal melody back into
that sound. This has like done the

1956
02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:31,479
reverse where they're taking the knowledge of
death metal back in time to the nineteen

1957
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:35,880
seventies, and they're putting like,
you know, growls and faster drums and

1958
02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:41,079
stuff like into that. It's like
like you're hearing a nineteen seventies rock band

1959
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:45,359
that contains time travelers who have like
gone from the extreme music of the future

1960
02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:49,359
back and added that back into fucking
dire straits or whatever. And for me

1961
02:07:49,439 --> 02:07:55,760
it works wonders. Like that mid
section in the first song, it like

1962
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:59,800
the guitarist es this like prog jam
part. It's not something that you would

1963
02:07:59,800 --> 02:08:01,319
ever hero on extreme metal record,
right unless you're like really out in kind

1964
02:08:01,359 --> 02:08:05,720
of the procy regions. And when
it lets rip half that point, it

1965
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:09,720
does so with a blast beat like
a proper howling glass beet, and it's

1966
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:15,199
like they're using some of the tricks
of extremity to add this kind of new

1967
02:08:15,279 --> 02:08:18,720
refreshment of life into this kind of
classic rock style of the past. And

1968
02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:22,720
that's what really really works for me. A Death Through No Loss has this

1969
02:08:22,079 --> 02:08:28,119
brilliant momentum, like that catchy main
guitar riff to me is just so like

1970
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:31,720
brilliant, galloping heavy metal barrage.
It feels like flying through the stars.

1971
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:35,359
On the cover, which is again
the kind of main sort of mental through

1972
02:08:35,439 --> 02:08:39,119
line this record has, and there
is for me, there's such an incredible

1973
02:08:39,159 --> 02:08:43,720
command of how they manipulate the kind
of feels of heavy metal. When it

1974
02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:48,600
changes the gallop in the verses and
the guy starts playing like nicker McBrain underneath

1975
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:50,760
it where it's kind of like double
bass skips and stuff like that. It's

1976
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:54,960
like those things that they've clearly studied
from again, records are all here,

1977
02:08:56,239 --> 02:08:58,920
but it's kind of feeding it through, you know, this kind of modern,

1978
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:01,600
underground kind of content TXT. So
like death through No Loss of probably

1979
02:09:01,600 --> 02:09:03,960
my least favorite song on the album. I mean, that's why I think

1980
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:07,359
it is made. That's when that
did feel a little disjointed to me,

1981
02:09:07,439 --> 02:09:11,239
where like I really like this sort
of like flashy tapping riff at the beginning,

1982
02:09:11,439 --> 02:09:13,600
like all that sort of stuff.
It's when it gets to sort of

1983
02:09:13,600 --> 02:09:18,680
the middle where it does kind of
go into this kind of like nonsense prog

1984
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:22,279
jam for me that I kind of
lost it a little bit. That's the

1985
02:09:22,319 --> 02:09:24,960
one song where I kind of did
find myself getting a bit like, well,

1986
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:28,319
this sounds a little disjointed for me
because all the other songs at least

1987
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:33,319
kind of do settle on an identity
and that's and even they're all wildly different.

1988
02:09:33,039 --> 02:09:39,319
Like Shallow Knights, is this like
jazz kind of like really subdued,

1989
02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:43,520
like and it's gonna be like droning
vocals, but it commits that that that

1990
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:46,319
kind of feeling where it's like almost
can like doom me at points, but

1991
02:09:46,359 --> 02:09:50,680
with like free form jazz and sort
of stuff in there. Solenophile is the

1992
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:52,920
one that that's my favorite one on
the record because that one is just like,

1993
02:09:54,279 --> 02:09:56,680
let's fucking get the cowbell out.
Well, here's the thing with this.

1994
02:09:56,760 --> 02:10:01,039
The vocalist is the obvious tan jible
link to death metal that remains in

1995
02:10:01,039 --> 02:10:05,760
a similay to you know, Johannah's
in Tribulation does but he kind of struts

1996
02:10:05,239 --> 02:10:09,680
and he swaggers. He kind of
you know, lurks in the dark a

1997
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:11,560
lot less and he's shaking his hips
a bit, and he's we're like where

1998
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:16,239
he chooses to kind of spit and
put some bark into the denunciation. And

1999
02:10:16,279 --> 02:10:18,640
the one for that is Selenophile,
which is a fucking rocker, just plain

2000
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:24,319
and simple. The mule kick on
that main riff, it really speaks to

2001
02:10:24,359 --> 02:10:26,399
the you know, the kind of
the Devil's Blood or like just and the

2002
02:10:26,399 --> 02:10:30,760
Ancients. One fan in me this
kind of like sublime, a cult rock

2003
02:10:31,159 --> 02:10:35,159
bucking broncho. The cowbell they bring
in there, like Selom Lamuci would be

2004
02:10:35,199 --> 02:10:39,039
proud of that main Guitaric. That's
the biggest compliment I can give. It's

2005
02:10:39,119 --> 02:10:43,600
fucking brilliant. And it has this
like finger snapping, toe tapping chorus,

2006
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:46,520
but shadows in the dark. Yeah, but barked out with this death metal

2007
02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:50,119
delivery with carried shadows in the dark. It's like I didn't care if he's

2008
02:10:50,119 --> 02:10:52,119
growling or not. You're grooving when
that's happening. Like that's when that that

2009
02:10:52,279 --> 02:10:56,479
song for me is why why this
album works, is because it all comes

2010
02:10:56,479 --> 02:11:00,399
together for that that song, and
I can kind of then work back from

2011
02:11:00,399 --> 02:11:03,399
that and piece it together in the
other songs and kind of do it because

2012
02:11:03,399 --> 02:11:07,239
that was where I was like,
the death metal growl really actually makes sense

2013
02:11:07,279 --> 02:11:11,640
in making this be totally unique.
When they're doing this full on like say,

2014
02:11:11,399 --> 02:11:18,159
pure classic rock cow bell strut swagger, like fist pumping chorus and all

2015
02:11:18,199 --> 02:11:20,920
that. It is like probably for
the nighttime rockers, and I just that

2016
02:11:22,439 --> 02:11:24,720
song. I just had no idea
this was a thing that was going to

2017
02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:28,399
exist, and when it came and
I was just like, I think I

2018
02:11:28,479 --> 02:11:30,800
like this and I hate parents for
like putting it off, put it on

2019
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:33,119
my rainarch, and now I was
kind of like recalibrate my expectations for a

2020
02:11:33,159 --> 02:11:37,279
lot of this on music, Well, yeah, I fully Solenophile was my

2021
02:11:37,399 --> 02:11:43,640
favorite as well, kind of Mark
knopflow country style riff and in a super

2022
02:11:43,640 --> 02:11:48,239
catchy vocal, And for me,
that's the most the runaway of success.

2023
02:11:48,319 --> 02:11:50,720
That's the song on the album I
go, I see, Okay, I'm

2024
02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:52,960
on board for this one. But
there's other moments I think a great as

2025
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:56,800
well, at the end of an
Ode to the Conqueror, which is basically

2026
02:11:56,840 --> 02:12:01,000
a post rock song towards the end
of it, but it's done to a

2027
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:03,800
really high standard. And even then
I think they changed things up enough because

2028
02:12:03,800 --> 02:12:07,159
the canvas is these really frosty guitars
where they've been quite warm for the majority

2029
02:12:07,199 --> 02:12:11,439
of the record, and the since
a distinctly kind of new Age saying it

2030
02:12:11,479 --> 02:12:16,720
almost like one of en Ya's more
ambient albums or something, but like really

2031
02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:22,000
unique and well placed. You know
that there's plenty of moments across this record

2032
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:24,119
that have that kind of charm for
me. For me, and you might

2033
02:12:24,119 --> 02:12:30,800
correct me on this, having seen
them live, I found this record quite

2034
02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:37,319
self serious, and it's weird because
I don't mean self serious and that they

2035
02:12:37,399 --> 02:12:41,520
think or they think this is a
deathly serious sound. There was a kind

2036
02:12:41,600 --> 02:12:46,840
of could you got it self importance
to the record where it's like these kind

2037
02:12:46,840 --> 02:12:50,960
of experimental flights of fancy records for
me, are at their best when they

2038
02:12:50,960 --> 02:12:52,880
feel really joyous, which is what
I get from that Avenge seven four record.

2039
02:12:54,279 --> 02:12:58,920
With this one, it's like,
I don't know, it's almost too

2040
02:12:58,039 --> 02:13:01,880
dry. I don't know about that. I mean because again, Solenophile to

2041
02:13:01,920 --> 02:13:03,279
me is such just like it's like
a kick ass rockerber. I think there's

2042
02:13:03,319 --> 02:13:11,479
a commitment to a mood for a
sure, but they fucking like kicks it

2043
02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:16,239
up when they're playing it, and
it is a It has the same thing

2044
02:13:16,479 --> 02:13:18,680
to me of some of other bands
I love, where they've kind of you

2045
02:13:18,680 --> 02:13:24,680
know, inserted a very very like
rough and tumble fucking plug in and go

2046
02:13:26,920 --> 02:13:33,239
classic you know kind of rock sensibility
into something that is moody and a set

2047
02:13:33,279 --> 02:13:35,600
at least more close to kind of
things that I love in the underground,

2048
02:13:35,600 --> 02:13:39,039
and I think they do that in
incredibly and again for me that whenever they're

2049
02:13:39,079 --> 02:13:45,680
just like, I don't hear any
sense of like a lack of enjoyment or

2050
02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:50,560
pleasure in when these guys are in
full flight, absolutely going as they are

2051
02:13:50,560 --> 02:13:52,279
on Selenophile or a Death or No
Loss or that first track or whatever.

2052
02:13:52,279 --> 02:13:56,680
For me, that's just again just
pure like heavy metal wonder but in a

2053
02:13:56,720 --> 02:14:01,479
way that has refreshed a lot of
the configuration of the elements. The other

2054
02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:05,159
thing to say is that there are
you know, there are now clean vocals

2055
02:14:05,159 --> 02:14:07,159
inserted on certain tracks. And like
again, every review that I saw of

2056
02:14:07,159 --> 02:14:11,520
this albumen it came out from people
who were familiar with this band already and

2057
02:14:11,560 --> 02:14:16,800
form the trajectory basically slathered all over
this record, but pointed out the clean

2058
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:20,199
vocals as the weak link that is
not there yet. The all clean vocal

2059
02:14:20,239 --> 02:14:26,119
song Shallow Knights is another of my
favorite songs of this You genuinely quite like

2060
02:14:26,119 --> 02:14:30,520
Shadow Nights, and I think because
it's so committed to the mood. Wow

2061
02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:33,399
it was because like again, don't
like it at first. That's one that

2062
02:14:33,439 --> 02:14:37,560
took a few listeners to grant me, but it does. It's just this

2063
02:14:37,680 --> 02:14:43,560
like nighttime hazy, kind of really
atmospheric track that I did like when you

2064
02:14:43,640 --> 02:14:46,720
were that really ritualistic kind of chanting
chorus. That's that's kind of one that's

2065
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:50,600
stuck in my ear, and I
think, like it's it's a cool track.

2066
02:14:52,399 --> 02:14:54,199
Again, I kind of have to
agree with that consensus that the Cleans

2067
02:14:54,279 --> 02:14:58,239
I don't think are that great on
this record. And the thing is this

2068
02:14:58,399 --> 02:15:01,920
is they're odd, and I don't
mind that. In the extreme avant garde,

2069
02:15:03,119 --> 02:15:05,199
we've talked a lot about bands where
you know that they have a vocalist

2070
02:15:05,239 --> 02:15:09,880
who's really off kilterwards sounds really strange
the first time you hear it, and

2071
02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:15,760
then you get used to it and
suddenly it's this really brilliant extra attribute to

2072
02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:18,760
it. But for me, it's
like on the song gold Dust, these

2073
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:24,800
clean vocals come in about three minutes
in and they're kind of bad, like

2074
02:15:24,880 --> 02:15:28,760
they sound like a nervous guy at
karaoke who half knows the song. And

2075
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:33,760
for me, it's maybe that's where
the self seriousness comes in. It's it's

2076
02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:37,279
a weird thing because they don't sound
shy by any means. I don't there's

2077
02:15:37,279 --> 02:15:41,479
no shrinking violent quality to this record
where you know they're second guessing this combination.

2078
02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:48,760
But when that comes in, there's
something slightly caged about it, and

2079
02:15:48,800 --> 02:15:52,279
I don't think that helps. When
the record is produced the way it is,

2080
02:15:52,319 --> 02:15:54,960
which overall I don't think is bad, but the vocals are really high

2081
02:15:56,000 --> 02:16:00,239
in the mix, and there are
long stretches without vocals, which he was

2082
02:16:00,279 --> 02:16:03,640
quite a lot of space in the
sound, And then when the vocals come

2083
02:16:03,640 --> 02:16:07,720
back in and I don't think they're
that great, it can be pretty unrewarding

2084
02:16:07,720 --> 02:16:11,239
for me. Shallow Knights, for
me, is like this gorgeous, like

2085
02:16:11,479 --> 02:16:16,119
space rock country ballad. I love
it. It has this like Alison Chain's

2086
02:16:16,159 --> 02:16:20,279
lusciousness in the arrangement, and the
way the vocals work for me is it's

2087
02:16:20,359 --> 02:16:26,079
not a huge powerhouse performance, but
it has this really ghostly, strung out,

2088
02:16:26,119 --> 02:16:28,359
dejected kind of quality to me,
And on that he sounds like he's

2089
02:16:28,399 --> 02:16:31,040
at like the end of a really
long night and the energy has been kind

2090
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:33,079
of beaten out with him. It
kind of reminds me a bit of like

2091
02:16:33,319 --> 02:16:37,360
the clean vocals on the Wayfarer album
and how those are used as a kind

2092
02:16:37,399 --> 02:16:41,040
of like haunted voice carrying over the
planes more than like you know, a

2093
02:16:41,079 --> 02:16:46,559
fucking star performance. And even the
way that kind of sad melody works with

2094
02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:52,399
you know, less emphasis on vocal
power but mood. I think the way

2095
02:16:52,440 --> 02:16:56,000
the melody kind of you know,
it fades out and there's just like that

2096
02:16:56,040 --> 02:16:58,680
one league guitar at the end of
it, it's like he's still carrying on

2097
02:16:58,760 --> 02:17:01,040
the main melody of the chorus,
like he's the last man standing of the

2098
02:17:01,120 --> 02:17:05,159
romans they've all drifted away. The
Productions album, to me, is like

2099
02:17:05,319 --> 02:17:07,879
exactly how I want an album to
sound like. I think it's gritty but

2100
02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:13,559
expansive. It's kind of live in
fidelity, but it's beautiful and enveloping,

2101
02:17:13,639 --> 02:17:16,600
like it sounds perfect to me.
And again I understand, like the vocal

2102
02:17:16,600 --> 02:17:20,000
power thing is not there, but
it has that kind of haunted feel and

2103
02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:22,360
when that comes in on gold Dust, to me, it's like this kind

2104
02:17:22,360 --> 02:17:26,719
of you know, it's this cool
effect in dynamic between this band going more

2105
02:17:26,760 --> 02:17:30,360
like kind of kick ass metal and
the vocal turning is this kind of like

2106
02:17:30,440 --> 02:17:35,879
sad yeha cowboy thing, like adding
a different kind of like trailing over the

2107
02:17:35,959 --> 02:17:39,879
edge sort of quality to the momentum
of that song that really really worked for

2108
02:17:39,959 --> 02:17:43,159
me. And again, the kind
of the fun and pleasure of it comes

2109
02:17:43,159 --> 02:17:48,479
out of the band playing and the
solos. Every time there's a solo on

2110
02:17:48,479 --> 02:17:52,120
this record, it is like you're
in heaven. Every time one plays,

2111
02:17:52,120 --> 02:17:54,959
like the big one in Shallow Nights
and it just the music picks up Steene

2112
02:17:56,000 --> 02:18:03,520
that turns it's this triumphant heavy metal
thing like it is absolutely sublime. And

2113
02:18:03,879 --> 02:18:07,360
you know, again the last song
kind of a bit more like a kind

2114
02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:09,680
of soft Pallberry type track or something. But when it goes this record is

2115
02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:15,959
really victorious to me. When it
goes there, I agree that the solo

2116
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:18,879
and show Nights is really like epic
kind of heavy metal brilliance. Again,

2117
02:18:20,319 --> 02:18:24,159
just sounds huge lift the song I
think, like I think, even like

2118
02:18:24,200 --> 02:18:26,920
said Ota concre which says is the
kind of more like post rocky sort of

2119
02:18:26,959 --> 02:18:31,440
song, still begins in like a
really kind of hard rocking way, and

2120
02:18:31,479 --> 02:18:33,079
it's then I read like the first
half of that song it's to be more

2121
02:18:33,159 --> 02:18:37,200
rocking, and then when it gets
into the more minimalist sort of stuff towards

2122
02:18:37,239 --> 02:18:39,159
the back end as well, I
kind of like I kind of wish you'd

2123
02:18:39,200 --> 02:18:43,959
kept the rocking up, but I
admire their willing this to really like put

2124
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:48,159
in different directions and still keep it
feel like it's a cohesive mood in a

2125
02:18:48,239 --> 02:18:54,120
song and not just like none of
the saw the turns and genres witches feel

2126
02:18:54,680 --> 02:18:58,879
like it's like jarring or it's pulling
in a different direction and it becomes uncomfortable

2127
02:18:58,920 --> 02:19:01,319
to listen to, Like the worst
of this sort of does for me,

2128
02:19:01,399 --> 02:19:03,159
like, sorry, the event's en
fold where they govern the different direction that

2129
02:19:03,159 --> 02:19:07,760
felt really jarring and unpleasant. Here
it kind of feels kind of thought out

2130
02:19:07,760 --> 02:19:11,799
and natural, even if I'm not
entirely along for the ride. Yeah,

2131
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:15,799
here's the thing with me with this
in terms of like again, I would

2132
02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:18,520
never have ever have brought up like
Events E Evolved as a comparison point,

2133
02:19:18,559 --> 02:19:22,360
because fundamentally I don't think this is
some kind of throw shit at the wall

2134
02:19:22,399 --> 02:19:26,520
experimental record. Maybe it helps to
have heard where they've been everything, but

2135
02:19:26,639 --> 02:19:28,879
this to me feels more like,
you know, if the last record was

2136
02:19:28,920 --> 02:19:31,920
their Formulas of Death, this is
the Children of the Night in terms of

2137
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:35,600
them just a writhing at something that's
just very singular and as obviously the sound

2138
02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:39,680
of it is very very unique and
it is weird, and I think that

2139
02:19:39,600 --> 02:19:41,719
that is a good thing about it
in terms of like, this doesn't sound

2140
02:19:41,760 --> 02:19:43,959
like any other record that's come out
this year or will come out this year,

2141
02:19:43,040 --> 02:19:46,319
But there is such a consistency in
the mood to me that I never

2142
02:19:46,399 --> 02:19:50,479
feel out of place in terms of
any element that comes in. It all

2143
02:19:50,520 --> 02:19:52,719
feels as part of that again,
kind of floating through the cosmos. But

2144
02:19:52,879 --> 02:19:58,719
you know, like at the same
time watching some brilliant you know, undiscovered

2145
02:19:58,760 --> 02:20:03,760
for in heavy metal, bar band
or something absolutely tearing shit up when they're

2146
02:20:03,760 --> 02:20:07,000
going through those solos. This review
has not gone as well as I hoped

2147
02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:09,719
it would in terms of it conveying
it why I think this record is so

2148
02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:11,440
fucking amazing to people because you got
me sort of one side that No,

2149
02:20:11,559 --> 02:20:16,079
yeah, call that a win.
I win. It's more that like every

2150
02:20:16,079 --> 02:20:18,280
single negative thing that's been said about
this record I disagree with, like to

2151
02:20:18,319 --> 02:20:22,280
me, this record works on every
single level. To me, I think

2152
02:20:22,319 --> 02:20:26,079
it is genuinely astounding. I think
it is far and away one of the

2153
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:30,719
best heavy even though to call it
a heavy record doesn't even entirely convey what

2154
02:20:30,760 --> 02:20:33,239
it is because sometimes it's like again
like yacht rock, but the best kind

2155
02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:35,719
of you know, underground, whatever
releases you will hear this year, to

2156
02:20:35,760 --> 02:20:43,440
me, this band have grown organically
into something that works in a really really

2157
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:46,719
one off, special kind of way
on this record. And to me,

2158
02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:48,200
I think it just comes down to
like some of the best bands to me

2159
02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:52,319
are ones where they're made up of
musicians where you could put them in either

2160
02:20:52,639 --> 02:20:56,639
like a cover band of nineteen nineties
extreme metal bands, or they could play

2161
02:20:56,639 --> 02:21:01,639
in like a soft rock wedding band
to earn some money on this yeah,

2162
02:21:01,680 --> 02:21:05,840
and they would excel in ivor environment. I think there's a special read of

2163
02:21:05,920 --> 02:21:07,280
musician that comes out of the middle
of that Ben diagram, and I think

2164
02:21:07,319 --> 02:21:11,799
this is the record that most exemplifies
that. Yeah, listen, I don't

2165
02:21:11,799 --> 02:21:16,239
mean to come on and rain on
your parade or anything, but it is

2166
02:21:16,920 --> 02:21:20,120
for me. I'll say this.
There's every chance in three months time this

2167
02:21:20,159 --> 02:21:24,959
record comes up again and I say, what a fucking incredible album. I'm

2168
02:21:24,959 --> 02:21:28,639
totally open to that possibility, because
the way with a lot of these unique,

2169
02:21:28,719 --> 02:21:33,399
avant garde, forward thinking extreme metal
records is sometimes it's just the time

2170
02:21:33,440 --> 02:21:37,879
and place it hits you. First. Sometimes it takes eighteen months and you

2171
02:21:37,920 --> 02:21:41,120
come back and go, wow,
listen to that. Like DoD i'ms God

2172
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:43,319
that last record of Theirs, which
was in my top ten of year,

2173
02:21:43,479 --> 02:21:46,920
that was the first time they released
a record that I liked the first time

2174
02:21:46,920 --> 02:21:48,959
I heard it, you know what
I mean? I felt like I'd been

2175
02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:54,200
primed before to like DoD IAM's Guard, and I hadn't in some cases this

2176
02:21:54,280 --> 02:22:00,319
time. It is such a distinctive
combination of things. I've had a week

2177
02:22:00,799 --> 02:22:03,600
to adjust. So could this have
been my top twenty of the year?

2178
02:22:05,799 --> 02:22:11,360
Genuinely? Who knows. I'm not
discounting the quality or the ambition or anything

2179
02:22:11,399 --> 02:22:15,479
like that yet. I just haven't
managed to, you know, get on

2180
02:22:15,520 --> 02:22:18,600
the ride as yeah today, and
I won't be upset if it doesn't turn

2181
02:22:18,680 --> 02:22:20,399
up when you talk to twenty at
the end of the year. But I

2182
02:22:20,399 --> 02:22:24,280
want to say as well, like
I, it is a I can the

2183
02:22:24,319 --> 02:22:28,079
identity in the sound is a weird
one and it probably will make people scratch

2184
02:22:28,120 --> 02:22:31,120
their heads a little bit. But
fundamentally, I don't think this is meant

2185
02:22:31,120 --> 02:22:33,680
to be a super avant garde record. It's a record that rocks. It's

2186
02:22:33,719 --> 02:22:39,840
a record about fucking sick solos and
sick riffs and cowbell parts. It's just

2187
02:22:39,879 --> 02:22:43,040
a record that is fucking rad to
listen to to me, and that's why

2188
02:22:43,079 --> 02:22:46,440
I'm just so like fully into it, and that's why it's got me like,

2189
02:22:46,520 --> 02:22:50,159
yeah, cowbo in there, like
I'm only human, Like, yeah,

2190
02:22:50,200 --> 02:22:52,879
I don't think it's that difficult a
record to listen to. It's fucking

2191
02:22:52,959 --> 02:22:56,000
fun. It's just like for me, if you like outstanding guitar leads,

2192
02:22:56,040 --> 02:22:58,799
it's out of this world, like
yeah, for fans of Tribulation Cavell Attack,

2193
02:23:00,120 --> 02:23:05,120
it's for people who are fans of
both Thin Lizzy and Dismember just shit

2194
02:23:05,239 --> 02:23:07,120
rocks, And a lot of my
favorite bands are ones who start off kind

2195
02:23:07,120 --> 02:23:13,840
of being more kind of ensconced in
a specific underground subgenre and then they kind

2196
02:23:13,840 --> 02:23:16,440
of, over a series of records
just sort of end up sounding like themselves.

2197
02:23:16,600 --> 02:23:18,760
And for me, you know,
Chapter Disease kind of growing into one

2198
02:23:18,799 --> 02:23:24,079
of those I think is a really
exciting prospect. So last album before the

2199
02:23:24,159 --> 02:23:26,920
couple more big ones come this month
that we will have coming your way in

2200
02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:31,000
Hyperblast in the near future. This, at least in my estimation, might

2201
02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:33,479
be the best month for hell yeah, guitar melody that you can remember.

2202
02:23:33,719 --> 02:23:39,200
Because the last album is from Dodds
Reat. It is called Nocturnal Will.

2203
02:23:39,559 --> 02:23:43,319
It is the fourth album from a
band who still formed less than ten years

2204
02:23:43,319 --> 02:23:46,840
ago. Speaking of bands who have
kind of fashioned out a very cool identity

2205
02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:50,520
for themselves, I do admit the
last stretch of this episode is very me

2206
02:23:50,680 --> 02:23:56,680
coded. For sure. Dot's previous
album More Coil we reviewed in twenty twenty

2207
02:23:56,680 --> 02:23:58,959
one. It was my number three
album of that year. I fucking love

2208
02:24:00,079 --> 02:24:03,600
it. Sam, I don't remember
if you liked that album much. It

2209
02:24:01,040 --> 02:24:05,600
was with it and I feel like
I need to go back to it now

2210
02:24:05,639 --> 02:24:09,840
because what we're about to get into. Yeah, I think that the last

2211
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:13,760
one that me and Alex were just
going mental was as like men with Swedish

2212
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:16,920
de beat for brains to come out
on that one, Like, yeah,

2213
02:24:16,959 --> 02:24:20,360
this was what I was kind of
a bit because I'm not loving that last

2214
02:24:20,399 --> 02:24:22,440
Dodgery album. I did hate it. It wasn't like a kind of like

2215
02:24:22,440 --> 02:24:26,840
me moaning, but it was when
I was just a little like I wasn't

2216
02:24:26,840 --> 02:24:28,760
by way back but I hit found
this and then took a minute. But

2217
02:24:30,319 --> 02:24:33,120
the kind of like combination of things
that Dodgery do on this, I was

2218
02:24:33,120 --> 02:24:35,680
like, Oh, I do like
all of these things, and they're doing

2219
02:24:35,719 --> 02:24:39,559
them all at once, and they're
doing some unexpected things that I like even

2220
02:24:39,639 --> 02:24:41,280
more, and it's all coming together
to be like, Oh, this is

2221
02:24:41,319 --> 02:24:46,639
really fucking cool. Yeah, Elliott, do you kind of independently been listening

2222
02:24:46,639 --> 02:24:50,479
to the Dodgery albums prior to this
one? I've heard more of Coil.

2223
02:24:50,639 --> 02:24:52,639
That's the one I have heard,
and that album is fucking great, like

2224
02:24:54,959 --> 02:24:58,040
one of my favorite crossed albums of
the last cops. I don't know why

2225
02:24:58,040 --> 02:24:58,600
I haven't gone back to the others. I think it was just because when

2226
02:24:58,639 --> 02:25:01,959
that came, it was such a
kind of ground swell in hearing people talk

2227
02:25:01,959 --> 02:25:05,879
about them. Then it was,
Oh, I guess this is like some

2228
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:09,120
kind of rebirth. I love to
go and especially on the strength of this

2229
02:25:09,159 --> 02:25:13,120
one, like it made me stomp
around and punch the walls. But I

2230
02:25:13,159 --> 02:25:18,879
can't think of many dB crust bands
with as much melodic nouse as them,

2231
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:22,760
and I was very pleased that they
they've gone on to dial that up somewhat.

2232
02:25:24,079 --> 02:25:26,760
Yeah. Well, here's the thing, because Dodds three is as it's

2233
02:25:26,799 --> 02:25:31,639
a very melodic leaning Scandinavian black band, black metal band basically, but it's

2234
02:25:31,680 --> 02:25:35,680
one that has kind of clearly been
formed out of the Swedish crust punk scene

2235
02:25:35,719 --> 02:25:39,479
as well. And if you don't
know exactly what that means, we're talking

2236
02:25:39,520 --> 02:25:43,319
about Wolf Brigade, Dysphere, Martyr
Dodd, all those kind of great bands

2237
02:25:43,600 --> 02:25:48,680
and Dodsrey find a way too.
I guess inject that like hyperactive DIY crust

2238
02:25:48,799 --> 02:25:54,120
energy into these like quite lengthy black
metal tracks, which for me translates into

2239
02:25:54,120 --> 02:25:58,120
this kind of sense of epic but
also being conveyed on ten in terms of

2240
02:25:58,239 --> 02:26:03,559
energy with this wide span, it's
almost overwhelming when they get it really right.

2241
02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:05,799
It's like you want to run around
in a circle, but the circle

2242
02:26:05,879 --> 02:26:09,559
is ten miles wide. Like and
more, Coil managed to arrange those songs

2243
02:26:09,600 --> 02:26:13,440
in a certain way where the peaks
in the valley is just kept like they

2244
02:26:13,520 --> 02:26:16,639
kept like you know, there's like
a feedback loop just constantly moving into each

2245
02:26:16,639 --> 02:26:20,200
other an amplifying each section. They
do this trick where they build up to

2246
02:26:20,280 --> 02:26:24,000
like an insane, heart bursting crescendo
part, the kind of thing that a

2247
02:26:24,040 --> 02:26:28,840
post rock song would end on having
spent ten minutes of fanning about to kind

2248
02:26:28,840 --> 02:26:33,760
of get to that point, but
then to to transition out of it and

2249
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:35,879
manage to keep on going. They'd
switch out with the dB and that allow

2250
02:26:35,959 --> 02:26:39,120
them to then move and have all
of these other passages come in behind that

2251
02:26:39,159 --> 02:26:43,440
first big downburst and then eventually they
end on something else massive and epic,

2252
02:26:43,520 --> 02:26:48,079
like six minutes later. It makes
for like a handful of my favorite musical

2253
02:26:48,120 --> 02:26:50,479
moments of this current decade. If
you check out, like you know,

2254
02:26:50,559 --> 02:26:52,159
like the first track on the album, for example, how it works and

2255
02:26:52,200 --> 02:26:56,440
that kind of build and EBB and
flow I'm talking about, this album is

2256
02:26:56,600 --> 02:27:01,360
not really more of the same in
that exact same way that exact trick of

2257
02:27:01,840 --> 02:27:05,040
build, release, d beat transition, get to somewhere else down the line

2258
02:27:05,639 --> 02:27:09,159
is not exactly the formula of this
album, but it is more of something

2259
02:27:09,159 --> 02:27:20,000
that Dodds do exceptionally well. Twin
leads one of the best sounds in the

2260
02:27:20,040 --> 02:27:24,760
world ever, and for me,
it was my favorite thing about that last

2261
02:27:24,799 --> 02:27:26,680
record, and I was kind of
thinking, I hope they dial that up

2262
02:27:26,719 --> 02:27:31,239
more because they're really fucking good at
it, and they don't just write nice

2263
02:27:31,239 --> 02:27:35,200
sounding ones, they write really memorable
ones. And then when with iriyala,

2264
02:27:35,440 --> 02:27:39,120
I guess that's how it's pronounced.
When that opens it up, it's like

2265
02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:43,000
I have not heard a better set
of twin leads since to open a record

2266
02:27:45,840 --> 02:27:48,280
Surgical Steel, it sounds like Deceiver
of the Gods at the start until the

2267
02:27:48,280 --> 02:27:54,479
blastby kicks in, and then when
it kicks off they have the sheer nerve

2268
02:27:54,440 --> 02:28:01,079
to go into a better lead part, the lead coming out of like like

2269
02:28:01,200 --> 02:28:05,000
a couple bent's in. Like this
is where I was like, Oh,

2270
02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:09,079
okay, this is just this blend
of heavy metal, black metal, crustpunk,

2271
02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:13,159
even like a little bit hardcore and
sort of stuff like again that kind

2272
02:28:13,159 --> 02:28:16,079
of ties into the cross punk DV
stuff. All these sort of things are

2273
02:28:16,079 --> 02:28:18,920
gonna go like, oh, why
do they not like this before? Why

2274
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:22,040
all the pieces just slotted into places. I don't know if it's because of

2275
02:28:22,040 --> 02:28:24,920
the increased heavy metal twin lead guitar
stuff that I just got swept up in,

2276
02:28:26,079 --> 02:28:31,000
but these ten minute epics felt three
minutes long to me at points,

2277
02:28:31,040 --> 02:28:37,159
like they are whirlwinds of just like
exciting, heart bursting exclarvation. There is

2278
02:28:37,200 --> 02:28:43,399
a moment on Nocturnal Fire where a
couple of minutes in there is a rift.

2279
02:28:43,399 --> 02:28:45,200
That is the sort of thing that
you can have on a comeback kid

2280
02:28:45,239 --> 02:28:50,479
album, like like saying melodic hardcore. This is burst of like hardcore punk

2281
02:28:50,520 --> 02:28:54,159
pace, but it comes out like
it's coming from the back of like firstly

2282
02:28:54,200 --> 02:29:00,000
a heavy metal gallop into a like
ferocious black mel blasting into like hardcore,

2283
02:29:00,040 --> 02:29:03,840
and it's like there's constantly progressing forward
into new things and it doesn't but never

2284
02:29:03,840 --> 02:29:07,360
feels formulate. But it never feels
like here's the heavy metal, here's the

2285
02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:13,440
like it just shifts back and forth
in ways that is so exciting, and

2286
02:29:13,479 --> 02:29:16,799
then again like you go from there
to kind of like almost like post black

2287
02:29:16,799 --> 02:29:20,159
metal soundscapey sort of bits and all
that, and it's just so vast and

2288
02:29:20,239 --> 02:29:24,000
the sort way it pulls about that
and I was just gonna like this all

2289
02:29:24,120 --> 02:29:26,920
just clicked for me completely here.
It's so funny that you say that,

2290
02:29:26,920 --> 02:29:33,079
because I can see why the big
increase of like heavy metal melody would grab

2291
02:29:33,120 --> 02:29:37,639
your ear. But this is a
less punk album. I don't know.

2292
02:29:37,719 --> 02:29:39,159
I know that's why I need to
go back to that last one. And

2293
02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:43,200
I think maybe it was like we've
done a lot of black metal or something

2294
02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:46,120
and it just wasn't wasn't clicking with
me, but I do want to go

2295
02:29:46,159 --> 02:29:50,159
back to that last album to how
bod love this. The specific combination of

2296
02:29:50,200 --> 02:29:54,440
like punk dbat and big black metal
crescendos has been toned down, so there's

2297
02:29:54,479 --> 02:29:58,399
a lot more like you know,
melodic definitatal type stuff in this. It's

2298
02:29:58,399 --> 02:30:01,360
funny up at the beginning of this
year has so good for that flavor because

2299
02:30:01,360 --> 02:30:03,680
it's like, yeah, if if
you liked the Opon's Stone album from January

2300
02:30:03,719 --> 02:30:07,280
or even Darkest Hour fuck it,
you know, they all kind of share

2301
02:30:07,360 --> 02:30:09,920
that like uplifting, brilliant melody factor. Again, for me, this is

2302
02:30:09,959 --> 02:30:13,600
two hours. I think that's why
I've got so wired to that is I've

2303
02:30:13,600 --> 02:30:16,719
been enjoying I mean enjoying that sounds
so much this year. Yeah, that

2304
02:30:16,760 --> 02:30:18,719
them slavering that all over this has
gone oh fucking yeah, give me more

2305
02:30:18,719 --> 02:30:22,280
of that. Yeah, And this
this is like, you know, if

2306
02:30:22,319 --> 02:30:28,280
the last album was again a really
a motive cathartic record, this one is

2307
02:30:28,319 --> 02:30:31,440
like they're kind of heroic raising their
sword at the top of the mountain album,

2308
02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:35,200
Like there are bits that stand a
bit more like obsequii or something in

2309
02:30:35,319 --> 02:30:39,840
terms of like just big sunlight glints
off the steel melodies there. It makes

2310
02:30:39,879 --> 02:30:41,959
sense that they've grown so close to
Lamp of Murmur because even as the records

2311
02:30:41,959 --> 02:30:46,000
sound very different, it's that sense
of like black metal that is made to

2312
02:30:46,000 --> 02:30:48,559
feel empowering. And the guest guitar
soigner that m from Lamp of Murmur does,

2313
02:30:48,639 --> 02:30:52,600
or Nocturnal Fire near the end of
it, feels like a match made

2314
02:30:52,600 --> 02:30:56,200
in heaven in terms of just like, yeah, we unders were on the

2315
02:30:56,280 --> 02:31:00,840
same kindred spirits in terms of the
same wavelength. Didn't realize that was him

2316
02:31:00,879 --> 02:31:05,319
doing that solo. That is epic
that so it's good, like yeah,

2317
02:31:05,399 --> 02:31:09,040
and it's funny. It's so funny
that you said comeback kid for that track,

2318
02:31:09,399 --> 02:31:11,680
because I think where you're coming from. But the very first riff in

2319
02:31:11,719 --> 02:31:15,000
that song has this really folky tinge
to it, and it's yeah, but

2320
02:31:15,040 --> 02:31:16,280
that's like the head a little gallop, that focus. It's one to have

2321
02:31:16,319 --> 02:31:20,600
a couple of minutes in where it
does yeah. But that first track,

2322
02:31:20,760 --> 02:31:24,879
that first riff, it's like a
prime Era and Sferum song or something,

2323
02:31:24,959 --> 02:31:26,639
which is not a flavor I would
have predicted in this band A couple of

2324
02:31:26,639 --> 02:31:33,639
records ago and the fact that that
has Ensophereum and Comeback Kid has reference points

2325
02:31:33,719 --> 02:31:37,319
for the same like, you know, two minutes apart, and it doesn't

2326
02:31:37,399 --> 02:31:41,200
actually feel jarring. But if you
took away everything but the drums on that

2327
02:31:41,280 --> 02:31:45,280
song, I was like, this
could be you could build a Penny Wise

2328
02:31:45,319 --> 02:31:50,959
song on the reference And then that
the same is that melodic punk riff like

2329
02:31:50,360 --> 02:31:54,079
so good. And then the lead
part that comes in four minutes in,

2330
02:31:54,879 --> 02:32:01,239
like that's Iron Maiden in their pomp. So yeah, that again, full

2331
02:32:01,280 --> 02:32:03,120
house that solo at the end.
If we don't get a ghost down this

2332
02:32:03,200 --> 02:32:07,680
year, there's every chance that's guitar
solo of the year. And it's just

2333
02:32:07,840 --> 02:32:13,600
on the second track on some Blackened
Crust record. It's it's a motive,

2334
02:32:13,639 --> 02:32:16,760
it's fun to listen to, It's
perfectly pitched. They do again. It's

2335
02:32:16,799 --> 02:32:20,159
the thing you want all guitar solos
for. You want to be flashy enough

2336
02:32:20,200 --> 02:32:24,200
to be exciting to listen to without
feeling out of place or in any way

2337
02:32:24,440 --> 02:32:28,920
detracting. And every single one of
them feels like the morning after a blizzard.

2338
02:32:28,399 --> 02:32:31,280
You just every time there's a new
solo, a new lead part comes

2339
02:32:31,319 --> 02:32:37,719
in. I have survived this night
yeah, and I think that's the one

2340
02:32:37,760 --> 02:32:41,319
track where the d beat does still
remain a prime factor. But when it

2341
02:32:41,399 --> 02:32:45,239
hits it, just like you know, Epic d beat remains one of the

2342
02:32:45,239 --> 02:32:48,040
best combinations of things in the world, you know, from Full of Efrofar

2343
02:32:48,239 --> 02:32:52,200
to Wolf Brigade to this and just
have a sort of duel leads like that

2344
02:32:52,319 --> 02:32:56,559
dance together over that tempo just speaks
to kind of a special bit of my

2345
02:32:56,600 --> 02:32:58,000
brain. It's what I love so
much in part about the last record.

2346
02:32:58,120 --> 02:33:03,479
But the feeling of like turbo charged
Epic is still really here. Like again,

2347
02:33:03,520 --> 02:33:07,559
earlyer Are is ten minutes long.
It's blasting you in the face for

2348
02:33:07,639 --> 02:33:11,280
a lot of that. When it's
not, it's kind of resetting itself so

2349
02:33:11,319 --> 02:33:16,520
it has renewed energy when it does
so again the heavy metal factor again just

2350
02:33:16,719 --> 02:33:20,600
ramped up so much, kind of
over the crust. This is like black

2351
02:33:20,680 --> 02:33:24,360
metal four Iron Maiden fans, You're
You're, You're totally right. And there

2352
02:33:24,399 --> 02:33:28,200
are points in again, like three
and a half minutes into that song,

2353
02:33:28,319 --> 02:33:33,000
the temposts witch under the leads.
That kind of moment comes in at a

2354
02:33:33,040 --> 02:33:37,239
point where, like three and a
half minutes into a Dodds Root song,

2355
02:33:37,360 --> 02:33:39,319
they do something like that, and
that excites me because they look and there's

2356
02:33:39,360 --> 02:33:43,920
still seven minutes left, and I
just it's not it's not you know Bruce

2357
02:33:43,959 --> 02:33:46,799
Dickinson effect. It's kind of I
want to know what they've got in store

2358
02:33:46,159 --> 02:33:48,840
in those seven minutes because I know
they're going to arrive at something else that's

2359
02:33:48,879 --> 02:33:52,879
fucking brilliant. I mean, I
didn't look at the time on these songs,

2360
02:33:52,920 --> 02:33:54,280
which is why how like the frill
was kind of there was. I

2361
02:33:54,360 --> 02:33:58,399
wasn't so a long songs, you
know, on the Bruce Dickinson's I was

2362
02:33:58,479 --> 02:34:01,079
checking how long, said oh my
god, this still five minutes to go

2363
02:34:01,600 --> 02:34:03,799
here, because it's like, yeah, just let it all. There's like

2364
02:34:03,280 --> 02:34:07,520
a ryfic kind of bit where like
quite on that first song where it's almost

2365
02:34:07,559 --> 02:34:11,479
like kind of just modern commercial metal
kind of like elements to it, but

2366
02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:16,120
it's all kind of part of this
like really sweeping package where like those black

2367
02:34:16,159 --> 02:34:20,079
bel blasts kind of combined with that
to create something that doesn't I don't think

2368
02:34:20,079 --> 02:34:24,120
there's anyone that really sounds like what
they're doing with that. And the way

2369
02:34:24,159 --> 02:34:28,040
that opening song not the way it
absolutely closes, but there's a bit in

2370
02:34:28,079 --> 02:34:33,360
that where they're kind of going to
be explosions in the sky and they nail

2371
02:34:33,399 --> 02:34:37,159
it, and you just think the
ref On one hand, this feels like

2372
02:34:37,200 --> 02:34:39,200
quite a pure sound, do you
know what I mean? It seems like

2373
02:34:39,239 --> 02:34:43,280
it doesn't that last struck we were
we were just talking about, we would

2374
02:34:43,280 --> 02:34:46,399
talk about all the different places it
pulls from. It kind of feels like

2375
02:34:46,440 --> 02:34:50,399
the wrong approach here, and yet
we've listed a dozen bands all from disparate

2376
02:34:50,600 --> 02:34:54,920
parts of rock and metal. They
kind of rear their head here and they

2377
02:34:56,040 --> 02:35:00,280
nail all of it. Yeah,
And the structure of the album is kind

2378
02:35:00,280 --> 02:35:03,319
of similar to the previous ones,
where you have like four long songs.

2379
02:35:03,479 --> 02:35:05,559
This one does have like an instrumental
break in the middle, which is oddly

2380
02:35:05,600 --> 02:35:09,399
split into two tracks, which seem
kind of unnecessary because it's you know,

2381
02:35:09,719 --> 02:35:11,680
on a tiny little acoustic interlode,
which is then followed by a full on

2382
02:35:13,040 --> 02:35:16,079
four minute metal instrumental, which again
is just like, oh, look,

2383
02:35:16,120 --> 02:35:18,879
how many amazing guitar melodies we had, Yeah, we had enough to have

2384
02:35:18,079 --> 02:35:20,879
a four minute instrumental on top of
our you know, bigger tracks here,

2385
02:35:20,920 --> 02:35:26,239
just sort of juicy melodic guitar goodness, and into the you know, the

2386
02:35:26,280 --> 02:35:31,440
latter tracks as Death Comes Reaping maybe
has the moment for me in terms of

2387
02:35:31,479 --> 02:35:35,600
like the bit in a Dudsrey album
where it just like comes from my emotions

2388
02:35:35,600 --> 02:35:39,840
with just like a particularly beautiful stirring
part after the seven minute mark, when

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the song has basically come to a
natural conclusion, and like the first seven

2390
02:35:43,280 --> 02:35:45,680
minutes are good, you know,
not the most exceptional parts of the album,

2391
02:35:45,719 --> 02:35:48,760
but like, you know, good
as it all is. Suddenly they

2392
02:35:48,840 --> 02:35:52,559
introduced this new guitar melody. God, it's so fucking good. It's like

2393
02:35:52,639 --> 02:35:58,520
alcest beautiful but wearing chain mail.
It's so awesome. It's just like melodies

2394
02:35:58,559 --> 02:36:01,520
you can imagine ten thousand resilience whoaing
like their lives depend on it. It's

2395
02:36:01,520 --> 02:36:05,840
fucking sensational. It's like it's a
cliche, but that that melody that is

2396
02:36:05,959 --> 02:36:09,319
properly soaring when they did but it's
still got that kind of like heavy metal

2397
02:36:09,479 --> 02:36:13,680
battle kind of feeling to it.
I think like that song because that's so

2398
02:36:13,879 --> 02:36:18,840
you get almost like like several minutes
in before you even get like a whiff

2399
02:36:18,879 --> 02:36:22,520
of vocal from it. But it
never feels drawn out or tedious or boying,

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02:36:22,520 --> 02:36:26,520
because it's just always moving. There's
always a new moving piece that kind

2401
02:36:26,520 --> 02:36:30,639
of gets introduced, and it just
keeps so funny. And then when you

2402
02:36:30,719 --> 02:36:35,040
when you build to that closing stretch
and you you get hit with those melodies

2403
02:36:35,079 --> 02:36:37,559
that just that they just lift your
soul up, and it is like,

2404
02:36:37,760 --> 02:36:41,680
you know, that's the reward for
you know, having these longer structures,

2405
02:36:41,719 --> 02:36:43,000
and that's why I'm kind of like, I wouldn't change a thing about this

2406
02:36:43,079 --> 02:36:48,280
again. His Death Comes Reaping is
the jewel in the crown for this record

2407
02:36:48,280 --> 02:36:52,920
for me, because it opens sound
like a lost paradise loss song like Shades

2408
02:36:52,959 --> 02:37:00,440
of Gold, kind of its stomps
with all that melancholy, not any bounce

2409
02:37:00,520 --> 02:37:03,760
to strike, and then when it
goes in that swinging gallop, it sounds

2410
02:37:03,799 --> 02:37:07,399
that you're going into battle, but
you're sad, like you're not at the

2411
02:37:07,440 --> 02:37:11,239
bassal yet but you know you're probably
going to die, and you're kind of

2412
02:37:11,559 --> 02:37:15,760
okay with that. And then just
when you think it's over and you get

2413
02:37:15,799 --> 02:37:18,680
a little acoustic bit, the way
that builds up again into that final euphoric

2414
02:37:18,799 --> 02:37:24,920
lead riff, it reminds me of
when I don't listen to Marster Puppets very

2415
02:37:26,000 --> 02:37:28,120
much now but every now and then
when I put that record on and those

2416
02:37:28,319 --> 02:37:33,120
twin leads come in on Oryan after
the bass solo, and you just go,

2417
02:37:33,479 --> 02:37:37,159
I feel like a cosmic entity.
It's it's it's that kind of feeling

2418
02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:41,360
you just want to sort of stand
up and applaud. Yeah, God,

2419
02:37:41,399 --> 02:37:43,799
I'm gonna spend so much money at
Fortress Fest, aren't I. I'm so

2420
02:37:45,040 --> 02:37:52,079
scared. Yeah, it's not quite
Mortal Coil too, and I respect them,

2421
02:37:52,159 --> 02:37:54,520
you know, tweaking the formula a
little bit to put the emphasis on

2422
02:37:54,639 --> 02:37:58,360
somewhere different. This band could be
an amazing one trick pony with the best

2423
02:37:58,360 --> 02:38:03,440
trick ever, but they are kind
of organically changing shape a little bit and

2424
02:38:03,479 --> 02:38:07,319
bringing in some new tricks. You
know, unbelievable month of guitar heroics that

2425
02:38:07,360 --> 02:38:09,239
make you want to belt your lungs
out along with them. You know,

2426
02:38:09,239 --> 02:38:13,000
from Judas Prex through to through to
Dodd's Reads. That is your six albums

2427
02:38:13,159 --> 02:38:16,239
this time. There are a couple
of very notable releases coming at the very

2428
02:38:16,280 --> 02:38:18,719
end of this month that we will
get to you also in the forms of

2429
02:38:18,760 --> 02:38:22,200
a hype Blast Reviews episode, so
you know, keep your eyes peeled for

2430
02:38:22,280 --> 02:38:26,479
that. Thank you very much for
listening. Let us know what sides of

2431
02:38:26,559 --> 02:38:30,319
the fence you are falling on with
some of these records, from you know,

2432
02:38:30,360 --> 02:38:35,559
Chapeler Disease to Bruce Dickinson. Thank
you as ever for being here.

2433
02:38:35,079 --> 02:38:39,440
We will be back next week as
said with Hyperblasts. We will be back

2434
02:38:39,520 --> 02:38:43,399
next week also with the album club
Pack happening over on the At'smount of Patron

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02:38:43,440 --> 02:38:48,200
where we were talking about the records
that I detailed to you earlier. From

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02:38:48,399 --> 02:38:54,000
the craziest grind record that you could
ever dream of listening to, to the

2437
02:38:54,040 --> 02:38:58,559
most the most ott symphonic metal album
that you could ever dream of listening to.

2438
02:38:58,719 --> 02:39:01,680
It's a month of big, big
stuff, and I think that is

2439
02:39:01,719 --> 02:39:05,680
a thing to be celebrated, So
getting involved over there otherwise, cheers very

2440
02:39:05,719 --> 02:39:07,239
much. Enjoy your week, Tatar,