1 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,359 It's the Internet. You're busy, Let's do this. Welcome to the Game 2 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,479 Mess Decides Podcast. This is the podcast where we decided everything about the world 3 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,000 of games, so you never have to think for yourself. I'm your host 4 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:40,799 Jeff Grub and with me is Mike Manati. In today's episode, Blizzard games 5 00:00:40,799 --> 00:00:44,280 are on Steam, Xbox and PlayStation, Kiss and Makeup, and the end 6 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,079 of Xbox Live Gold. But first, I want to thank you all for 7 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,679 joining us. Mike, how are you doing. I'm pretty good. I'm 8 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:58,200 on this staycation and it's nice. I guess, yeah, they're never it's 9 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:02,759 because you have all these fine land right, all these machinations exactly, and 10 00:01:02,759 --> 00:01:04,760 then it takes a one domino for to fall where it's like, oh, 11 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:07,920 I didn't get as much done today as I thought I was gonna get. 12 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,280 For all to fall apart, right, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna 13 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,200 really clean up my house and I'm gonna cook this giant brisket I have and 14 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,799 play Found Fancy sixteen somehow. None none of that. I've mostly kind of 15 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:21,760 just like slept and played dal before while watching things is what I've really done. 16 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,480 So it's a beautiful life you live, but I understand what you mean. 17 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:27,560 I mean, I always happens to me. I Uh. We're playing 18 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,799 in a trip and stuff is like doing my itenerary. It's that's kind of 19 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,319 person she is, and I'm like, hey, awesome, I'll support you 20 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,840 into whatever you need to help make that happen because I'm not good at that 21 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,400 kind of stuff. So, uh, it is nice to a degree. 22 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:44,640 But it's also like, oh, it's cool to just have a bunch of 23 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,519 stuff to do, and when we check that stuff off a list, it'll 24 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,719 feel satisfying and then that'll be good. Things will go wrong, we'll just 25 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,799 have the roll with the punches, but it's it's still nice to like, 26 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,400 oh, well we'll we hear them. We have tickets for those things we 27 00:01:56,439 --> 00:01:59,040 have to go, and then when we get home it's like, well we 28 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,000 did all those fun things. That was great. It felt like we did 29 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,319 a bunch of stuff. It's going to be exhausting and tiring, but I'm 30 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:06,799 kind of looking forward to that kind of vacation right now. So yes, 31 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,240 staycation probably come eventually, but even then I know it's going to be exactly 32 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,039 the same. It really with staycations. If all you do is get a 33 00:02:15,039 --> 00:02:17,719 bunch of sleep. You got to consider that a whin. Yeah, I 34 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:23,000 guess I feel like next time, I almost want to go somewhere, even 35 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:24,960 if I'm not doing anything, just like because I don't actually feel like I'm 36 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,439 on vacation. I don't, so I don't know, it's fine. I 37 00:02:29,479 --> 00:02:31,840 mean, I'm definitely glad to have the break. Maybe I'm just also so 38 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,240 disney rotted that to me, a vacation means getting up far earlier than I 39 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:40,319 usually do, to tire myself out way more than I usually do, to 40 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,439 be outside more than I usually am, to like do a bunch of things. 41 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:46,879 Maybe that is just actually how I liked to vacation. Maybe to me 42 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:52,759 that is more unusual than my life of sitting inside by a computer or too 43 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,800 much. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you gotta break up the flow 44 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,280 a little bit. I don't know. Well, maybe we'll go to something 45 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,840 fun this weekend and we can like break it up a little bit and then 46 00:03:01,879 --> 00:03:05,520 well that'll be good. See, we'll see. If you're in the Cleveland 47 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,479 Greater area, maybe you could start well. I mean, oh, i't 48 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:12,479 think that's a secret. I'm trying to go to this classic console an arcade 49 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:16,560 gaming show on Saturday in North Brunswick, which is kind of near Cleveland, 50 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,639 starting at noon that day. Song Yeah, I'm trying, I'm gonna go. 51 00:03:21,719 --> 00:03:23,960 I'm just trying to figure out exactly when, what the logistics are, 52 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,000 and we can probably meet up there, so that'd be fun. Spending too 53 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:30,879 much money on GameCube games is just what I need to get out of. 54 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,319 That's the way to do it, all right. You can get more from 55 00:03:35,319 --> 00:03:37,960 Mike Andmede by joining the discord at game mess dot net. 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Slash Game mess which gets you access to the private channels in 66 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,160 our discord, the monthly Q and a one month early access to our Jeopardy 67 00:04:16,199 --> 00:04:19,720 games, participation in our monthly game club discussions, and of course all of 68 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:25,480 our shows add free. All right, Mike, I got some news to 69 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,439 talk about. You ready to get into it? Yeah, let's start here 70 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,160 with Blizzards games are coming to Steam starting August. Starting in August with overwatching. 71 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:39,600 Welloo, question, who wrote this incredibly elaborate description for the podcast today? 72 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:42,279 What is all this? I did that? You do? Do you 73 00:04:42,319 --> 00:04:44,839 always do that? No? No, that was the first time I've done 74 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,240 that in a while. Wow. Do So you didn't like my like one 75 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,800 sentence about what we were talking about this time? Huh? I did like 76 00:04:48,879 --> 00:04:53,879 that, but I was like, I wrote it after I put this rundown, 77 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,240 and so I'm like, some of these things we might not talk about, 78 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,279 so let's just put it here and then if we do get those other 79 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:00,040 things, then great. But I didn't like it. Just notice I just 80 00:05:00,199 --> 00:05:03,920 noticed goes you know, I guess, thanks, I guess, yeah, 81 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:14,399 you're welcome. I guess what a relationship we Blizzards games are coming to Steams 82 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:17,879 starting in August with Overwatch two. Blizzard will release a selection of its PC 83 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:24,399 games on Steam starting with Overwatch two on August tenth. Blizzard president mikey Baras 84 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:28,360 said this is in response to player demand, and Valve boss Gabe Newell said 85 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,240 it will benefit both gamers and developers. Mike, you are the person I 86 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:39,000 know who is who spends more time maybe on Battlenet than on Steam. Yes, 87 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,000 what do you think about this? I think this is driven by a 88 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:48,959 multitude of factors, like the imminent cell to Microsoft. That's very interesting. 89 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,120 I think it's just like the first thing I thought of was when you told 90 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:59,000 Baccalar that his Jewish family having a Christmas tree was a cultural victory difference. 91 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,360 It seems like some kind of victory condition and civilization to me, it really 92 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:08,680 does. I think another factor here, and why Overwatch too. It's first, 93 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,040 it's because that game has been not doing the numbers it's supposed to, 94 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,759 and there is probably a bit of a hope that putting this on Steam is 95 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:23,519 going to help increase the player numbers for that game and get more people potentially 96 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,639 buying It's terrible micro transactions. Yeah, I mean, it's it's hard not 97 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,160 to look at it through that lens. I mean, obviously there's a lot 98 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:33,279 of other stuff that's lining up as as this deal with Microsoft gets ready to 99 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,879 close, like Microsoft's making a bunch of moves. We'll talk a little bit 100 00:06:35,879 --> 00:06:40,480 about those things here in a second. But so yeah, I think you're 101 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,800 right, that's probably is a little bit of a motivating factor. But I 102 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:46,560 think the biggest one is what you said, Overwatch too interrupt spot. What 103 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,959 do you do with the game like that? Well, you make it very 104 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:55,839 easily accessible to people who might have been overwatched curious but now have a real 105 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,839 chance to go in and check it out. I cannot remember. Is over 106 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,040 Watch too free to play? Yes, it is. It is free to 107 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:06,439 play. That was like a big point of what they did. But it's 108 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:12,160 free to play with a pretty aggressive monization thing in terms of the bat you 109 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,240 need the batt Pass to get the heroes earlier and things like that. I 110 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,720 don't know, And you know, it's just you get way fewer cosmetics for 111 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:23,480 free than you used to in the old system. Now, of course you 112 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:26,199 had to pay four your dollars own the game before, but you would get 113 00:07:26,199 --> 00:07:29,480 those loop boxes, and you know, you would get cosmetics there. If 114 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,279 you got duplicates, you get a currency so you can buy the cosmetics you 115 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:35,560 want. Now you get some from a battle pass, which was the slowest 116 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,480 battle pass to complete I had ever seen in a video game, or you 117 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,680 just buy them directly from the store. And it was where you know, 118 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,279 all these other issues that game has had, with the five versus five instead 119 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:55,000 of six versus six still being a controversial and unpopular move, and also the 120 00:07:55,639 --> 00:08:00,319 you know cancelation basically of the PVEE co op mode that was supposed to be 121 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,639 a core pillar of this game still an incredibly sore spot with people. So 122 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,879 yeah, I think it's a lot of people. I mean, look, 123 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:11,439 and also it's since it's not very different from Overwatch one, you know, 124 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,879 not everyone's gonna play Overwatch for their entire lives yep, right, at some 125 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:16,519 point, lot of people are going to stop and they have and what was 126 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:20,560 going to maybe bring them back, maybe something big like a Giant's new uh 127 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,839 co op mode, But we're not getting that. So what are you going 128 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:28,519 to do instead to drive up those monthly active users something like this? I 129 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,320 guess. Yeah, it's um, it feels like the kind of thing where 130 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:37,159 people do realize that like, yes, Steam has won that cultural victory, 131 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,639 they are just sitting back and like broadcasting their usefulness, like that they are 132 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,679 not being aggressive and going now and pulling people in, although maybe they are. 133 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:50,200 Maybe they had conversations. They know they had conversations with EA about Apex 134 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:54,240 Legends and stuff like that. But I think that I've served more of us 135 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,279 of a reminder of like, hey, it seems to make sense the Apex 136 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,039 Legends should be on Steam. Maybe Valve did the same thing with Overwatch. 137 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,279 I wouldn't be surprised though, if if Activision approached to Steam or Valve and 138 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,120 was like, hey, we would really like this to be on here. 139 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:11,840 But like I was just been sitting back making Steam as useful as possible, 140 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,440 and then companies like Activision Blizzard are saying, man, we have these games 141 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:22,080 that need as many players as possible, and we've had we've tapped out everything 142 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,639 we can do without like a major rework of what this game is or how 143 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,720 it works, which probably is still coming or not still coming. It probably 144 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,000 that probably will happen again with Overwatch as they sort of reassess all the changes 145 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:37,080 they made and maybe do some backs. Mac stepping backpedaling, I mean, 146 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:41,559 especially in terms of that monetization. But in the meantime, an easy thing 147 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,240 to do is put it on Steam, where there's a lot of people who 148 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,519 are very used to playing big online free to play shooters, and that there's 149 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:52,840 an audience on Steam and they will probably give this game a shot. It's 150 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:56,759 I wonder if it's the kind of thing where it'll get a shot, and 151 00:09:56,799 --> 00:09:58,480 if it's not in the best state, maybe people will just glance over it 152 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,799 and not come back to it, or maybe they'll maybe it'll like have multiple 153 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:07,480 opportunities to win people over being on Steam. Who knows, um. I 154 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:11,080 mean the obvious question, Mike, is this world of Warcraft come to Steam? 155 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,159 Yeah, that one still feels weird for some reason, but it's you 156 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,559 know, I like, why not at this point if you're pulling, if 157 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,639 you're if you're kind of pulling this chord here right, you're pulling that hair, 158 00:10:22,919 --> 00:10:26,440 just go for it at that point. Why it restricts anything. There's 159 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,039 probably gonna be a little bit of way and see and see how many people 160 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,679 do start flying into Overwatch too. It is weird because Battlent was like this 161 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:39,159 one that always seems slightly untouchable because it I mean, it's like the one 162 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,600 that predates Steam for one thing, um or just about I think as a 163 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,120 launcher, or at least as if it's not. It's like they kind of 164 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,799 came up at the same time, like basically a predate Steam as we know 165 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:56,639 it today, right, So that's weird. My real question is, like, 166 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,759 do we ever live in a world what Fortnite is on Steam or do 167 00:10:58,799 --> 00:11:03,879 we actually just get to just straight up actually everything is on Steam again. 168 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,720 I mean, I don't want to say that world's impossible, but that would 169 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,960 have like you know, Epicus said Steam would have to drop their split to 170 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,840 like twelve eighty eight like instead of seventy thirty. So and it doesn't seem 171 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:20,000 like Valve's going to make that move. They have made some changes to their 172 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:26,039 split, but they haven't done that, so I don't know. It seems 173 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,639 like Fortnite is probably pretty immune to this, But you're right, there could 174 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,159 be a time in the future where Fortnite is looking for that boost and coming 175 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:35,879 to Steam would help even Fortnite. I really believe that it would even help 176 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:39,480 Fortnite, But I guess that is kind of the point though that almost speaks 177 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:43,960 it seemed desperate because you were not if you're a Blizzard. There are now 178 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,279 these Overwatch two players, Well maybe they are going to just play that game 179 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,279 on Steam now. And then does that mean any micro transaction that they make 180 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,559 on Steam that used to just be money that all just straight went to Activision, 181 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:58,960 Well now Steam's getting a cut of that. Yes, yes, I 182 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:05,320 mean that, But I think that's just um like, what is more important 183 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,320 to own one percent of the transaction or to get access to people who are 184 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,879 spending money? And it turns out in the end, having access to people 185 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:18,399 who are spending money is more important, And it's very hard to get those 186 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:20,759 people to move to your service if they're already doing that somewhere else. It's 187 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:24,639 it's it's basically impossible to get them to do that. You can give them 188 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:30,600 free games like Epic has been doing, and they are still really not actually 189 00:12:30,759 --> 00:12:33,960 getting people to change their behaviors and how they spend money. It is so 190 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,840 difficult to pull off. So, yeah, they give up thirty percent, 191 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,559 Well you know with Overwatch, it'll be twenty percent eventually because it at once 192 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,799 you reach one hundred million dollars spent on your game on Steam Valves, which 193 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,480 is just to take to twenty eighty, so you know they'll they'll get to 194 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:52,720 that probably pretty quickly. Maybe even who knows, Valve might be giving them 195 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:58,039 that split right out of the gate because Valve, for Valve, having Overwatch 196 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,200 too yet another big free to play shooter on on Steam is beneficial. So 197 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,879 I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case, But also wouldn't be surprised that, 198 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:05,320 like, no, just get one hundred million, You'll be fine, 199 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,679 You'll get there in no time. That'll happen in like a year or two, 200 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:13,240 or you know, not even So Yeah, I don't know. I 201 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:18,240 just think that for Blizzard this you're right to call it desperate because it does 202 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,080 feel a little bit desperate for Overwatch specifically, a game that we know is 203 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,840 in a precarious position, a game that we can tell they are reconsidering in 204 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:30,840 many ways, they are pulling the plug, you know, not completely on 205 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,639 the Overwatch League, but the Overwatch League as we know it is getting completely 206 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:37,879 reshaped because they're like, we're either going to shut this thing down or we're 207 00:13:37,879 --> 00:13:41,080 gonna let the teams vote on changing how we're going to operate which sounds like 208 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,120 a lot less money for everyone involved, So what's the even the point? 209 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:48,120 So yeah, I think they are rethinking every possible thing about it, and 210 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:50,320 that means that that obviously led them to Steam, which, man, makes 211 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,720 some sense. Remember when Overwatch was like the most celebrated game in the world, 212 00:13:54,799 --> 00:14:00,519 and it seems like every major decision that they had to make our launch, 213 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,679 like Okay, we're gonna focus really big on the East sport scene of 214 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:09,799 this thing, and then this Overwatch two thing, just in retrospect, two 215 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:15,679 bad decisions. Yeah, I am, I don't know. I think at 216 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,000 the time we were kind of all yelling like why are you paying so much 217 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,679 attention to the E sports scene and the competitive stuff? But then they invested 218 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:28,799 big on Overwatch League and people were paying twenty million dollars for Overwatch League franchises, 219 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:30,679 and it was Okay, I guess how am I supposed to argue this? 220 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:33,320 I guess this is a real thing, But it never really felt real, 221 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,159 And I think in the end it's like, no, it wasn't. 222 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:39,480 It was a lot of it was marketing and excitement and that's all there was 223 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:45,120 to it. And here we are back to reality and Overwatch is now just 224 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,519 yet another shooter, just like any of these other ones. And I think 225 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:50,360 it's a little bit um boy. That was the time and place we got 226 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,639 to live in that world where Overwatch really was the most important shooter. It 227 00:14:54,679 --> 00:14:56,919 was at the Game of the Year and all these things, and now it 228 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,840 is struggling, like so many of these other lives service games struggle, And 229 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:03,639 I guess, you know, in the past, it would have just been 230 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:05,159 like, yeah, that's an old game. We move on from old games 231 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,519 like that, that's how it goes. We just I paid sixty dollars. 232 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:11,320 I paid fifty dollars for that game. I played it for a while, 233 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,519 and then I played the next one. And now with these live service games, 234 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,000 they do get to a point where it's like they're supposed to be relevant, 235 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,480 but they struggle to remain relevant. And so it's like it's this weird, 236 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:24,480 long, slow death that makes it feel really awkward and kind of bad, 237 00:15:24,679 --> 00:15:28,759 and it almost taints the memories of the game a little bit. Yeah, 238 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,039 that is the weird thing about it. Like, because Overwatch one was 239 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,000 definitely a game that I loved. If you asked me, like while I 240 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,039 was playing, like, yes, this is one of the best games ever, 241 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,879 is one of my favorite games of all time. But it's like I 242 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:43,759 can't really play that Overwatch anymore, and it just doesn't feel like that Overwatch 243 00:15:43,799 --> 00:15:46,919 exists to me. So I'm like, well, what are my feelings and 244 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,320 Overwatch now, you know, perception is so much reality and I don't know 245 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,679 if this is on your rundown, but you know, we also have table 246 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,600 before I had this giant launch, you can't a ton of money, and 247 00:15:56,679 --> 00:16:00,960 already that communic community is kind of like mad and pissed off about things, 248 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,879 and like, yeah, they have reasons to be, but you know, 249 00:16:03,919 --> 00:16:06,559 I play the game and I'm like, I still find this fun. But 250 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,639 it's almost like what happened with Halo Infinite, where everyone else is mad. 251 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,759 So somehow that's like leaching into me, not making me mad, but like 252 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,840 putting the vibes off YEP in a weird way and all, but which is 253 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,120 just and that's it's so important that I am just shocked that Blizzard released the 254 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,600 patch that they did for Deal before your first major patch was so much nerfing 255 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:33,960 and making things slower and harder, which you know, if you're gonna nerve 256 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:36,559 or do that kind of stuff it might be because the community is out saying, 257 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,480 hey, this thing is a problem. This needs to be nerved to 258 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:44,039 just go in and for you know, I am a sorceress and to say, 259 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,120 hey, we're gonna nerve sorcerer or slash sorceress. Even though there agrees 260 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:49,600 it's the worst class in the game. It's like, man, you better 261 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:52,679 have a really good reason for doing that, or actually there isn't a good 262 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,279 enough reason. Even if you are like, well, our data contradicts them, 263 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,320 it doesn't matter at that point because you cannot afford to make the community 264 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:04,880 it's visible, because then everything starts to annoy them. Right. It's like 265 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,640 when you it's like when you have that roommate and all of a sudden, 266 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,759 like a switch flips and every little thing like like you know, like oh 267 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:15,920 they turned the toilet paper around, or like oh they need this my piece 268 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,799 of paper over here. Everything starts pissing you off, Like you go to 269 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,000 the before reddit, Uh, this thing now and that's what it is now. 270 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:25,200 And I you know, I think I think some people I saw someone 271 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:27,359 chat Nick say the patch stuff is blunt a proportion. I think it is 272 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,559 a bit also, But it's also why you just like, just just don't 273 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,720 just being greably careful with the stuff. Don't nerve things right before your your 274 00:17:36,759 --> 00:17:38,559 big update when your game is new. Don't get people a reason to turn 275 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,880 sour. Yep it is U you got. I mean, take take your 276 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,519 time with these things. Uh, test them out for longer, be sure 277 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:51,079 before you do. Like everyone was mostly happy with the OBLO four is how 278 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,200 it felt. Um, I of course I heard some complaints. Those complaints 279 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,200 were like, yeah, I don't know if I want to be in this 280 00:17:56,279 --> 00:17:57,319 end game for as long as it's like I've already played one hundred hours. 281 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,799 I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, that's it's not really that much 282 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:03,319 of a problem. That's something they could probably deal with now. It just 283 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:08,400 feels like the narrative is completely changed, completely shifted and gone really bad on 284 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,200 them in an instance. And I really don't know if they have anyone to 285 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:17,440 blame but themselves over a Blizzard. So I think I think a little rush 286 00:18:17,799 --> 00:18:21,279 to make the changes they want to because season one was coming out, yeah 287 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:22,359 today, no matter what it's like, well, we have to have a 288 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,279 patch, like, oh, what do we think is going to be best 289 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:27,640 for the game, And maybe they were able to think about it or test 290 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,759 it as much as they should have. Maybe they just shouldn't have made any 291 00:18:30,759 --> 00:18:37,559 big changes then. I don't know, it's it's weird. In the meantime, 292 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:42,359 Microsoft and Activision reportedly negotiating deal extension as deadline nears. This is you 293 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,519 know that that story is never going to end. It feels like here it 294 00:18:45,599 --> 00:18:51,079 is yet again getting extended. Microsoft and Activision negotiating an extension to their merger 295 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,960 agreement, which expired on July eighteenth. If the deal falls through, Microsoft 296 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,680 would have to pay three billion dollars for a termination fee, but instead they 297 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:03,400 have pushed it out to October eighteenth, and that's when that's the new the 298 00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:07,119 new the new final date um. If it falls through by then, at 299 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,200 that point they'd have to pay it seems like that's probably not going to happen. 300 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,680 The only thing standing in the way at this time is the UK's CMA, 301 00:19:14,759 --> 00:19:18,119 which is the equivalent of their FTC, and they are having conversations right 302 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,480 now to submit a new agreement from Microsoft to the CMA to see if they 303 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,160 can get approval. And uh, the CMA says it needs to run you 304 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,279 know, research and studies on the new agreement the new proposal from Microsoft, 305 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:33,559 but they will probably do that a little bit quicker and this will probably go 306 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,839 through. Um and while while all that is happening, uh, just everything 307 00:19:37,839 --> 00:19:42,640 else their microsoems like Microsoft is lining up everything else. Uh. That includes 308 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:48,240 a commitment from PlayStation to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation systems for the next 309 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,079 ten years. This is a binding commitment, legally binding, so they're gonna 310 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,160 have to stick to it. Um. Yeah, I don't know. We've 311 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,440 talked this thing to death, Mike. Why don't you see the other development 312 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:02,079 a couple of hours ago. I don't know, Maybe maybe not. I've 313 00:20:02,079 --> 00:20:06,400 been kind of busy. What's at the FTC officially hitting the brakes? Oh 314 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,839 I did not see that? No, yeah, take a look. So 315 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,759 did they cat Bailey at ig and the FTC hits the brakes on xboxes active 316 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:18,559 Vision Blizzard merger trials set for August. It's prospects of blocking xboxes Activision Blizzard 317 00:20:18,599 --> 00:20:22,359 merger dimming. The FTC is seeing the brakes on its trials coach for August. 318 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,240 Blah blah blah. So yeah, I mean I didn't read this intensively. 319 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,319 I saw a little bit of the CHEDDA on Twitter, but it seems 320 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,359 like maybe the FTC is done. Yeah, maybe they are finally like waving 321 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,599 the white flag here a little bit. So Yeah, in the last week 322 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:38,559 week and half, we might have talked about this in some of these some 323 00:20:38,599 --> 00:20:44,279 of other podcasts, but just a quick recap, FTC lost case for the 324 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:48,440 preliminary injunction to halt the deal while they had had a case happening in August. 325 00:20:48,839 --> 00:20:53,359 Uh. Then they peeled that to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals that 326 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,440 that court also denied the motion. Um, So the FTC was like, 327 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,039 Okay, well we're gonna go through the thing in August. And uh. 328 00:21:02,319 --> 00:21:07,319 In the meantime, Microsoft and Activision requested that the FTC basically shut down the 329 00:21:07,319 --> 00:21:08,599 case and not go through with it. And that felt like, oh, 330 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:11,119 that's probably not gonna work. It sounds like the FTC is like, this, 331 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,599 is it maybe a chance to ballow a little bit more gracefully than what 332 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,279 probably would have happened in August, which would not have would have knock gone 333 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:25,359 their way and it would have been especially embarrassing because the trial in August was 334 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,160 going to happen basically in FTC's own court, like they have their own like 335 00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:34,400 judge, and even that judge was probably not going to side with them, 336 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:40,559 and so that would have been especially embarrassing for it for the Harlem Globetrotters losing 337 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:45,559 a game exactly, losing at home and uh and always home for that's exactly. 338 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,640 Uh the FTC um has been facing scrutiny, you know, from a 339 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,440 lot of Republicans on Capitol Hill, and it's like, well, whatever they 340 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:59,160 are, they're always going to be against a democratic, democratically led uh FTC. 341 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:03,000 But they probably don't want the headache of another loss in the headlines or 342 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:07,839 something like that. So that makes some sense. Um, the FTC was 343 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,319 all like this deal was going to go through in the United States no matter 344 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,039 what at this point, because they were they were gonna be able to close 345 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:15,319 it before the FEC was gonna be able to do think about it, say 346 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:21,200 gay miss wanting something about like like Joe Biden and the FTC like had new 347 00:22:21,279 --> 00:22:26,359 regulations or something. Yeah, there's Yesterday the White House and the FTEC put 348 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,599 out new guidance on mergers in the United States and it's a list of new 349 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,440 rules excuse me, and it's a it's like a few dozen things, a 350 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:40,640 few dozen points, bullet points, and it's things like um mergers cannot continue, 351 00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:45,880 a trend toward consolidation in an industry, and things along those lines. 352 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,359 Do you think do you think that there Do you think this is in response 353 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,640 to those rumors about Apple buying Disney? Do you think that's what that's about. 354 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:53,440 I think it's about all of this stuff. I think it's about this 355 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,279 case they just lost. I think it's about big companies like that. Yes, 356 00:22:57,559 --> 00:23:02,759 and I think it's actually happened. That seems actually sinister and weird. 357 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,359 That has enough money to do anything. Well, I don't have enough money 358 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,799 to do it, but legally bizarre that Disney was able to just buy a 359 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,440 million things and then all of a sudden be like oh stuff, and then 360 00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:18,640 like, I mean, it's so for a trillion dollars, legally Apple would 361 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:23,599 probably get close. It would be tough. That's the problem is it's it's 362 00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:29,119 a vertical merger, not a horizontal merger, and horizontal mergers are like if 363 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,319 Activision bought EA, like that would be difficult. Apple is, it does 364 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,400 make some content, but Apple is a hardware manufacturer, a computer hardware manufacturer 365 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:45,039 buying an entertainment company and that's vertical, and they would probably recording to the 366 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,559 old rules, they would probably be able to get away with it. So 367 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:49,599 I think, yeah, the FTC looking at that, they probably are considering 368 00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:55,839 that one feels so off and like, yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry. 369 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,440 It's just incredible that that Disney could like have twenty years of just ridiculous 370 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,160 like on top of the worldness everywhere, like things go bad for like a 371 00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:11,519 year and it's just like, well, I guess Gables like, oh oh 372 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:14,160 good, I'm glad Disney's gonna get taken down a peg. Maybe they'll just 373 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,160 be like make me know, be mediocre for a while. That's not even 374 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,880 allowed anymore. No, it's not, it is not allowed. It is 375 00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:27,319 um it's like they're investor revolts would happen and you'd have um of these investors 376 00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:32,039 who would come and try to take over and do do hostile takeovers and try 377 00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:33,599 to get the board you served in all these things, and it would just 378 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,839 be this whole mess and yeah, it's not allowed here. So here's what 379 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,599 Okay, here's here's our question. Because you know, I'm not necessarily as 380 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,640 you know, so so pol Bruno so excited to say capitalism as bad as 381 00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:48,680 like as you are sure I think this, um, I think the stock 382 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:52,720 market thing, I don't know you call that is bad. It's inherently tied 383 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:59,079 to capitalism. Can we have a capitalism without this whole ridiculous you could buy 384 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:03,920 shares a company thing? Right? So I think what you're looking for is, 385 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,480 like, what is the tool that makes most of this stuff go around? 386 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:11,039 That's the good part of it, and that is markets. You can 387 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:17,599 have markets without all of this a lot of this other stuff like Jeff do 388 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,519 it. Yeah, absolutely, there are like markets are a tool, they're 389 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:22,359 not They're not magic. They're not it's not the visible hand of the market. 390 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,519 It's not magic. It is a good tool for accomplishing the means or 391 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:32,039 the ends of Uh. We have a limited amount of resources. What is 392 00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:34,000 the best way to distribute those resources? Well, a market is a good 393 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,240 way of doing that, and that you don't even have to have money involved 394 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,000 with that. There are um like food banks they're like, well, we 395 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:44,720 have like five thousand pounds of canned corn and we're not we we want to 396 00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:48,279 exchange this to someone else. And instead of just being like someone calling someone 397 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:48,759 up, be like I have a bunch of corn, I want to just 398 00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:53,319 exchange it for your rice or whatever. What they do is they put it 399 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,119 up on a market there and they exchange it for points with other food banks, 400 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:02,119 and this enables them to efficiently distribute this stuff. Like markets are very 401 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:07,960 good. Um, once you start getting into financial tools about moving money around 402 00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:11,160 and and and all these other and yes, and capitalism and always having to 403 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,480 grow. Uh, that is inherently tied to capitalism, and that is not 404 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:18,799 going. Yeah, that is the poison that poisons everything else. Absolutely. 405 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,640 Uh, we can't just be you know, even everything has to get bigger. 406 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,559 And then if they don't get bigger for a couple of years in a 407 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,720 row, it's like, what's time to sell exit? Everyone freak out. 408 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,240 And that's what's happening with a lot of these great companies. Incredible. Uh 409 00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:36,839 Okay, let's see here. Camp said, I had a three dal growing 410 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,559 up. I'm an elite quiet Jadi just jealous. You're just jealous that I 411 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,119 got to played mad Dog McCree. Well, you're stuck with what didn't he 412 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,440 even have like on games on the Supernintendo. I don't know, you're stuck 413 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:55,519 with yo. She's so far Yeah, Johnny Rock, baby Game of the 414 00:26:55,559 --> 00:27:00,599 Proletariat. That's right, exactly, that's the pled game. Xbox Live Gold 415 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:06,119 is being discontinued and replaced with Xbox Game Pass Corps. Xbox Live Gold is 416 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,200 being replaced by Xbox Game Pass Corps on September fourteenth for ten dollars per month 417 00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:14,000 or sixty dollars per year, same price as Xbox Live Gold. It includes 418 00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:18,759 online multiplayer gaming, a library of twenty five plus games that our selection of 419 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,480 Xbox Live Game Pass or excuse me, Xbox Game Pass games, and exclusive 420 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:29,119 membership deals. Gold end September first. Xbox three sixty games redeemed via Games 421 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,559 with Gold will remain in players libraries, but otherwise Games with Gold is coming 422 00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:38,759 to an end. This feels like mostly a lateral move. It feels like 423 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,400 rebranding more than anything else. This is something you said was going to happen 424 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,119 a long time ago. This is one that Xbox Killer would bring up, 425 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,160 like he said Games of Gold was going away, and then he would like 426 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:56,359 say something for two more months before accidentally saying something like snobbish or racist exactly. 427 00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:59,960 So yeah, this was always on the roadmap. They were looking for 428 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,680 way to do it and make it makes sense. I don't know if it 429 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,960 makes a lot of sense right now, Mike, because okay, yeah, 430 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:10,359 yeah, because all my multiplayers including in this at ten dollars per month. 431 00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:14,160 If you go up to eleven dollars per month, then you don't get online 432 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,119 multiplayer, but you do get full game pass. It's weird. I don't 433 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,000 know how Microsoft can make really make that feel like it makes sense. Yeah, 434 00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:25,720 I'm surprised. I mean, is it because they're increasing the price a 435 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,920 game pass soon and they're just maybe they're going to sneak that in by having 436 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:33,200 a fifteen dollars game pass plus online multiplayers here and maybe that's like you had 437 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,599 another tier, right so, I don't know, you get rid of this 438 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:37,839 hard. I don't know. Yeah, it's because when I first looked at 439 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,839 it, I was like, okay, this makes sense. I didn't realize 440 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,599 that that eleven dollars, a twelve dollars whatever a game pass here doesn't have 441 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,799 game pass console is what it's called Xbox game pass console. Yes, so 442 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:51,559 your name for the tier. Yeah, it's bizarre. It seems overly complicated. 443 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,640 I don't know. I mean, part of me thinks it's it's a 444 00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,880 kind of wild though that you have to pay for the privilege to play your 445 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,240 video games online on these service. That seems like a relic. I mean, 446 00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:07,680 it was a grift. It is. It's a graft. It is 447 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,200 then, But I mean the moment like PlayStation was like announcing all these four 448 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:12,680 hundred dollars PlayStation, you gotta pay for all my months player now, and 449 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,640 everyone's cheering because it's like they're all excited about the console and not realizing like 450 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,839 they're also like they're going to need to pay way more in the long run 451 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:22,119 because now you get to play for online multiplayer. But they got away with 452 00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:26,640 it. These companies are not going to give that back. Yeah, not 453 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,200 at all. So I kind of stuck with it. And they do give 454 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,599 it back, it's gonna be some desperate reason. Right now. It's it's 455 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,000 bizarre. It seems strange. But you know, I'm not too sad about 456 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:38,839 Xbox Live Gold going away, per se. I'm not gonna wist those free 457 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,960 games. I never redeemed them anymore. And that list of free games you 458 00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:45,119 just get is probably good enough for most people. There's a lot of good 459 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,920 games in there, so whatever, that's fine. At least, you know, 460 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,359 at the end it really feels like those lower tiers only exist to remind 461 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,559 you why you should get Ultimate, because if you do, if you think 462 00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:00,200 about it, if you get Xbox Game Path Console because you only have an 463 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,920 Xbox, you don't have a PC, and you're like, okay, and 464 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,839 but I also want to play some of these games online multiplayer, so then 465 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,079 I'm gonna get Xbox Live Gold as well. Well, you're already paying more 466 00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:12,160 than Ultimate, so why not just get Ultimate? But now it's like you 467 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,960 don't even have that option at that point because you're gonna have to get one 468 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,359 of these other tiers that does have online multiplayer involved, So you can't stay 469 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,640 on Xbox Game Pass Console no matter what if you want online multiplayer. So 470 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,359 it's just like, I guess I'm just going up to Ultimate now, which 471 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,160 of course most people probably made that decision naturally because it was cheaper. But 472 00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:33,440 it's like, you know, now, now Microsoft's just like kind of moving 473 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,680 people up. That's here in a more I guess somewhat for more friendly way. 474 00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:41,200 But it is very confusing and as people in chatter playing out, I 475 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,720 mean, you can look at the dates and figure out what they're what's happening 476 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,759 here? This is lining up with the launch of Starfield. They must feel 477 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,920 I bet that game is tracking strongly enough at this point that they're like, 478 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,359 any big changes we're making, we need to make right now, because when 479 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,519 Starfield is here, that's all anyone's going to talk about, and people are 480 00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:02,640 going to do what it takes to play that game, and we need to 481 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,599 have make sure that the future of what Xbox game pass an Xbox as an 482 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,079 ecosystem looks like needs to be established now and then as we bring in all 483 00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:12,359 the activission stuff it can fit in wherever it needs to fit in. That 484 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,359 sounds right to me, and Starfield probably is going to be that big I'm 485 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,799 really excited for Starfield. Yeah, I'm getting I'm really every time I like 486 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,799 that was one of the most effective like showcases for a video game I've ever 487 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,720 seen one of those conferences. I've watched that that thing. I know some 488 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,079 people watched a bunch of times. I've watched it three times, which is 489 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,480 a lot for me. It's a lot for an hour long exactly so, 490 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,440 and it's every time I'm like, God, it really does look promising. 491 00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:41,720 Um And and I'm in a place with those the games where even if It's 492 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:47,839 like I like the bad ones, yeah exactly, and bad ones, and 493 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,319 I like like it because I know that the I know for sure the modding 494 00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:53,480 support is going to be there, so I'm gonna be able to make it 495 00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:56,359 whatever I want. And uh yeah, and the fact that they have this 496 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,720 big canvas to work with is just just that much more exciting to me. 497 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,519 All Right, let's see hear a couple more stories from twenty twenty seven onwards. 498 00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,400 New video game handhelds may have to have a removable battery. This is 499 00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:15,599 due to new EU regulation that says in twenty twenty seven, all electronic devices, 500 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,759 including gaming handhelds, have to have easily removable batteries. This may affect 501 00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:23,559 new Switch, Steam Deck and rog ally successors. The regulation aims to strength 502 00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:29,720 and sustainability rules or batteries and waste batteries. I think I'm a big fan 503 00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:36,039 of this Mike. I like my I like rechargeable devices. But whenever I 504 00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:37,640 get a new one and I see that the batteries sealed in there, I'm 505 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,039 like, well, in a couple of years, two three years, this 506 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,240 thing's battery life is going to be so miserable. It's this thing's basically going 507 00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:47,599 to be useless, and that's not always true. Sometimes they surpass that, 508 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,880 but that's straight where my mind goes. So easily accessible replaceable batteries is a 509 00:32:52,960 --> 00:33:00,279 big thumbs up for me, and especially for these handheld gaming devices that might 510 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:04,039 not be playing my Steam Deck in a couple of years, but I can 511 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,200 easily see a world in which I pass it down to someone else, and 512 00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:09,079 when I do that, I would like to replace the battery and then hand 513 00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:13,640 it onto them. That's say replaceable batteries Euler. I mean like we're gonna 514 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,279 be using triple A and double as or like we're gonna be able to like 515 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,799 okay, no, So what they defined it as is it could be a 516 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,680 lithium ion rechargeable battery, but you have to be able to replace it by 517 00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:29,240 just basically using commonly accessible tools like a screwdriver. It can't be torques. 518 00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,880 It can't be some like proprietary tool that you need to get unless the company 519 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:37,359 ships the system with that tool and then and then the battery itself. Can't 520 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,640 be hardwired in. It can't be glued in like a lot of batteries are 521 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,920 these days. A lot of batteries are hard glued into the systems and ripping 522 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,640 them mouseplace the watch battery in my Sega Saturn because it died exactly. Yes, 523 00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:52,279 yeah, so and now that is um, those kinds of batteries were 524 00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,480 probably that they know they're gonna probably be exempt from this and stuff like that. 525 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,440 But um, I think for the most part, like I love I 526 00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:04,799 love the idea of the dual sense, but like I want to be able 527 00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:07,239 to replace the battery eventually in there easily. I will do the work for 528 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,079 these dual senses when it comes to that. But I'm you know, I 529 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,960 do have the tools. I have an I fix It kit. I'll just 530 00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:15,440 go grab them, I'll pop it open, I'll rip the battery out and 531 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:17,159 replace it. I would like it if it was a lot easier. So 532 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,360 I think this is a good move. I think it's especially good. This 533 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,800 is going to apply to phones, right because that's where it really It feels 534 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,760 like my battery and my iPhone after the first like six months, like efficiency 535 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,440 drops by half for some reasons. Yeah, and it's um, you know, 536 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,760 I used to have older Android phones where it's just you slide the back 537 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,280 off. I don't know, I don't know if iPhones that wherever like this 538 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:39,960 this way, I think they were. But for my old Android phones, 539 00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:44,519 you just slid the plastic back off. You could take the battery out whenever 540 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,239 and replace it with another one. A lot of phones I would like I 541 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,719 would buy two batteries and I'd be like, Okay, we're gonna want a 542 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,400 long trip, I'm gonna bring both batteries and I'll just swap it in half 543 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,280 halfway through the day when this battery is about to die. And that was 544 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,760 really cool. And then they stopped doing that obviously, and I would really 545 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,960 like for that to return. That would be very cool, Okay, last 546 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,639 couple of stories. Sega CEO Satobi said that the Sega Saturn is a difficult 547 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,679 console to turn to a mini console because of its complex hardware. Sorry miss 548 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,119 spoke. Sega president Yukio Sugino says a Sega Saturn mini console it's difficult to 549 00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:22,400 make due to its high performance and cost sagas at least too many consoles so 550 00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:25,559 far, and surveyed customers about which console they'd like to see next. Saturn 551 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:30,320 definitely pops up there. I think Dreamcast is the more popular option. It 552 00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:34,960 also would be the easier one because the Saturn emulation, for as much as 553 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,079 it's improved over the years, still much more difficult than Dreamcast emulation. Yeah, 554 00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:43,000 and Dreamcasts, even though like I think it overall sold worse and definitely 555 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,800 had less a shorter lifespan, there is still an affinity for that thing. 556 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:52,519 I mean, there's going to be a Hallmark Christmas ornament for the Dreamcast this 557 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,239 holiday. Yep. Right, there's still just a lot of warm feelings about 558 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,960 the dream Cast. It's a fantastic system. Of course, I would really 559 00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:04,280 like a Saga Saturn many of the I get the challenges, but there are 560 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,960 so many games that are still just stuck on that system, like a Burning 561 00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:13,480 Rangers, like a Panzer Dragoon Saga or you know, I know it had 562 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,159 a Panzer Dragoon remake, but the original Panzer Dragoon or just Panzer Dragoons. 563 00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:22,119 Why in any shape, The Clockwork, Night Games, the Bug Games, 564 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:29,000 Dragon Force, just a ton of amazing games that are very very Saga Saturn 565 00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:32,679 and nowhere else. Yeah, And I think the reality is is they probably 566 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,519 can pull this off. They probably can make a Saturn work. But it 567 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,280 is both those factors right that the Dreamcast seems more popular than a Saturn would 568 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,000 be and the Saturn is a little bit more difficult, so maybe the microprocessor 569 00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:47,719 they'd have to use, the chip set they'd have to use, would be 570 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,679 a little bit more expensive. And it's like that might be enough to convince 571 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,119 them to just skip over the Saturn and go right to the Dreamcast. And 572 00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:57,360 I could easily see them do ye for now, do the Dreamcast one, 573 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,679 and then hey, like if that does well, and hopefully it does, 574 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,360 you know, maybe cider and stuff will get a little bit easier. Hopefully 575 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,679 they do a Saturn one. I mean ideally, what what you do is 576 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,679 you do with the Dreamcast one, and maybe you use a system on a 577 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,559 chip that is that could do Saturn, and you buy enough for the Dreamcast 578 00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,880 that it reduces the cost, and then you can make a second purchase that 579 00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:19,480 is that you can use for the Saturn. Once that makes more sense. 580 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000 Um, people are saying, hey, they should do Siga CD and stuff 581 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,519 like that. They did that. That's that's that's the Genesis Mini two. 582 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,159 That two has Sega CD games. I don't think it has thirty two X. 583 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,519 I don't know if it has thirty two X. Sega CD don't be 584 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,519 a third one at some play you can play Carey B or whatever. Yea 585 00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:40,440 exactly, Knuckles chaotics, sure, why not? GameCube and we emulator Dolphin 586 00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:44,960 is no longer coming to Steam. The Dolphin emulator no longer coming to Steam 587 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,320 due to Nintendo's DMCA takedown request. The emulator included the wee common key We 588 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,159 talked about this, which Nintendo claims is copyrighted material because it almost certainly is. 589 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,920 Nintendo has a history of taking legal action against emulators, and Dolphin may 590 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,559 struggle to win this particular battle, so they are not even going to try. 591 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,880 They've said that it's just it's going to be impossible to bring at the 592 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,440 Steam, which oh well, like, oh well yeah, I don't know 593 00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:12,039 why. I don't know why they even tried. That's why they put this 594 00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:13,880 start. I mean again, it's like, you know, Steve, you 595 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,119 get you put something on Steam, person shales more legitimate, you get, 596 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,199 you do get more attention, and that might help in the long run of 597 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,719 like getting more support and making sure that that's all the stuff to all this 598 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,840 work you're doing is worthwhile. But if it's going to draw the eye of 599 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,000 Nintendo, you just gotta you just gotta bow out and people will still find 600 00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:35,599 Dolphin. They will still Dolphin's going to be just fine. Dolphin is definitely 601 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,320 the one emulator I expect to survive the apocalypse, Like, people will find 602 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,519 a way to preserve Dolphin. I thought you meant like a like an if 603 00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:49,000 you meant like a hypothetical like emulator apocos that was coming or something. You 604 00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:52,599 mean like me about the actual apocalypse, Like I will keep that ship on 605 00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:55,679 a USB drive and bring it with me into the waistlines. Um, yeah, 606 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,719 I'm not not too surprising, but oh well, I mean retro Arch 607 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,719 still is on Steam, which is weird. Look, it just has those 608 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,960 dog people like, yeah, you did it with the GameCube. You're there 609 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,320 pretty much. But you guys make as out an EMU later. Yeah, 610 00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:12,880 can you do that? Would that be a fun jot? I bet you 611 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,639 can't. I don't know. I bet you can't even do it. I 612 00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:19,800 don't think you can. There you go right, oh yeah, yeah, 613 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,960 let's see. Uh that does it for the big news I want to talk 614 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,400 about. We did get super chats and people probably have other things we want 615 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,280 to talk about, But first min bec is there anything else that we missed 616 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,519 that you want to bring up? I think that's pretty good. Jeff, 617 00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:34,119 I think we h. You mentioned long stuff, you mentioned the Diablo stuff 618 00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:38,280 and stuff which and I think they said they wanted to do like a developer 619 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,320 like diary or something tomorrow to talk about the stuff. It sounds like a 620 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,400 system going to try to explain why they did, which that only ever makes 621 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,280 things worse. Yep, if you explain to people why what the way they 622 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,360 think it should be done is wrong. Uh, I don't know. It's 623 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,880 like like the way people want things done is wrong, but their complaints aren't 624 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,079 wrong. So people are going to vindicated in continuing to complaining because they almost 625 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:06,840 certainly all are right about what is wrong with the game. But anytime anyone 626 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,400 suggest about how the like the right way to do it, that is almost 627 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,239 certainly also wrong. So it's like a lose lose, Like you put yourself 628 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,480 in that situation, and you're gonna have to hear people out or encourage the 629 00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:21,559 community to get feedback in the places where they get feedback, and then they're 630 00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:22,960 going to feel like they're being ignored, even though you just came out and 631 00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:27,920 said you were directly listening to them. So it's it's a tough situation to 632 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,599 put yourself. Then well we'll see. I suppose maybe it's better than nothing, 633 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,920 but I guess we'll say fight out for sure tomorrow. Yeah, it's 634 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,119 like, because now the season started, I don't know if they can I 635 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:39,280 don't think a patch again. Maybe they're gonna say, hey, we're gonna 636 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,480 reverse. So in the most I guess someone mentioned that, I don't know 637 00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:44,599 how patch went up today. Have you played it? I don't know how 638 00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:49,000 the patches, just the release basically of the first season. There was one 639 00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:52,559 thing they reverted, which was like they level gated the World three, World 640 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:57,440 Tier threeer in World Tier four that they're reverted, and like something else was 641 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,880 just a bug in terms of a currency not dropping as much, but like 642 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,800 like the nerves to a lot of the classes and the slower leveling in general. 643 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,320 I don't I don't know if they're going to revert that doesn't seem like 644 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,559 it. I think they're going to try to tell us why they think those 645 00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:14,320 are good things actually, and I think that's gonna go over very poorly. 646 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,280 That Diabel team is just so much like that thing. Tomorrow is going to 647 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,880 be one A is this an out of season April fool joke moment for them, 648 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,400 it's just not going to be consists. Yeah, I don't know. 649 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,519 We'll see how that goes. At least at least I don't think it's live. 650 00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:30,239 I don't think they're taking questions. Maybe they just think they're taking questions. 651 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,519 They're not gonna be taking questions. But just like that stuff will that 652 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,239 energy will come to the redd, the energy will be in the forum, 653 00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:42,320 and they will be energized by the energy. Yeah, energy, Brabby food. 654 00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,320 All right, Mike, we have some super chats. Why don't we 655 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,079 get to these and then we'll take a quick break and then we'll get to 656 00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:51,440 our games for the night. Big Fresh thirty seven says, Gang Gang ice 657 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,079 Cream so good. Big Jimbo Ryan says blizzards as desperate as I am? 658 00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:59,960 How desperate am I so desperate? I traded iconic places. Should mascots like 659 00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:06,079 crash Bandicoot for Call of Duty? Help me? Popcorn Emoji Gigi smiley face. 660 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,239 Also, we'll call Benji Glaskey re up their membership to Lincoln Status. 661 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:15,360 Thank you, Benjie Glasky. Big Jima Ryan also said ice bank mice elf, 662 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,480 Did I get him? Got him? If I did? Does Jim 663 00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:21,920 Ryan having a stroke. What is that we are watching Jim Ryan die before 664 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,880 a very honest everybody enjoy Is he doing the MPC thing? I don't know 665 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:30,639 what? Thank oh Ice Bank myce elf? Did I get him? I 666 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,760 thank my elf? Oh? I mean, look, I'll just admit to 667 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:43,320 spaking thing. Of course, I do think this is Jim Jim podcast? 668 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,199 Do you think this is? Char Wolf says you guys are currently tied for 669 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,400 Pickman for Metacritic scores. I believe you got an eighty eight. You guess 670 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,079 in eighty seven? I guess the eighty nine. Ye, well, Jeff 671 00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,760 got the point for Exo Primal because they doubt Exo Primal gets to an eighty 672 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,719 on Metacritic. I think you gave it like a low eighty. I gave 673 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,800 it a slightly higher eighty. You know, like okay, so like you 674 00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:06,199 like you seem really like extra problem everyone you play it with did and everyone 675 00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:13,280 else. Yeah, it's like a sixty six on Metacritic. I I don't 676 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,039 know. I play the game, and it's fun to play. What can 677 00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:19,599 I do about that? I think that there are people who maybe are like 678 00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:22,800 Capcom only makes the kinds of games I like now and then they plays a 679 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,400 problem of be like, this is a live service game. I don't like 680 00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:29,400 that kind of game. I'm mad. I don't want to like reduce it 681 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,719 to that, but that's the way it feels like to me, because like 682 00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:37,719 the modes keep getting interesting, and I mean, maybe if you play it 683 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,000 for twenty hours, maybe like are you going on the other side of it? 684 00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:42,920 And it kind of where's that it's welcome. I just for me, 685 00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:45,719 it's like a game pass game that you can play with friends and have a 686 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,960 good time with pretty easily, which I think was evident evidenced by the upf 687 00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:52,199 that we did for it's a pretty big win. I think it's a fun, 688 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,519 good game. I'm not calling it like a ninety. I'm not saying 689 00:43:55,559 --> 00:44:00,000 it's a five out of five. It's definitely one percent for me, a 690 00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,880 three out of five, And I know that translates to sixty on that scale, 691 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,320 but that's not what I mean. It means I like it, but 692 00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:07,920 I would probably I might be one to go to four out of five if 693 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,840 I give it more time. And I still feel this way about it. 694 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,480 So you apparently said a seventy nine. I said an eighty for that one, 695 00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:16,119 So you're going to get that point though, So there you could take 696 00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:20,559 comfort in that, I guess, ol grug says, y'all check out those 697 00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:24,719 tenth anniversary apit Do controls. Got the FC forty pro in today and it 698 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,639 looks dope. Man. I just I got enough controls right now. I 699 00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:34,639 controllers, you know. I basically I have this, uh the Starfield XBO 700 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,960 controller, and I love. That's basically everything I need for like PC gaming 701 00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:42,519 or like anything that's not like just straight up like you know, like I 702 00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:45,639 see one of their control would uses the PlayStation for PlayStation games, or I 703 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,719 like this apit Do for like playing places. I know, but have you 704 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,800 seen this ad F forty limit editions? This christ, it looks good. 705 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,480 Listen. I do prefer the NS to the FAMI com except for maybe this. 706 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:04,000 This looks so good. It's like got the gold analog sticks, It's 707 00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:07,320 got the UM the one and the two on it, uh for like the 708 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,159 one player and two player. Oh shit, hey, it looks really fucking 709 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,719 hot. I might I might reach out to them and see if they want 710 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,320 to send me some. That's a nice looking controller. And I don't have 711 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,199 an ultimate from them yet. I mean boy, the ultimate is the one 712 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,599 I use as my primary controller both on PC and switch. Yeah, but 713 00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:28,760 that is still just this. I just bought this for like nine dollars. 714 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,840 Yeah, sure, sure, I would say if you need a controller for 715 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,360 your switch, then then get one because it could turn on your switch by 716 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,079 shaking, which is fantastic. Well that you're shaking. I'm fine with this 717 00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:42,719 or my switch. Okay, enough ro Yeah, I have a I have 718 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,760 a real hard time for give me my Pro because I got the very first 719 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,760 generation of the Pro with that atrocious dpad with the false diagonals. That just 720 00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:54,559 drove me insane. So I'm like, no, ape but dough from here. 721 00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:57,239 I know they fixed it. I don't give a fuck. I don't 722 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:02,000 want to even look at my Pro controller. Okay. Next one is from 723 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:07,199 Baba is me. He says, have you heard anything about the Plucky Squire 724 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,719 and if it is still in schedule to come out this year? Thanks for 725 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:14,280 always providing great content, and thank you, Baba. How about a Jeff 726 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,000 he ereythining about Plucky Squire. No, I haven't been like looking for it 727 00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,440 though, I mean, I'm just kind of just like hoping we'd hear something 728 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,079 about it. Yeah, we're still it's July. We'll hear about quite a 729 00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:24,880 few months. There's a lot of time for that kind of game. I 730 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,039 hope it comes out this year. I think it looks very good. Chris 731 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,239 says, are you guys picking up those place those Spider Man two PlayStation five 732 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,719 face plates? No, I was gonna say, let me guess. Fuck, 733 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,559 No, It's what I thought you would say. Mike's Mike is not 734 00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:42,760 a coward. He loves he's PS five exactly the way it is. I 735 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,320 don't know if there's a bigger PlayStation five design apologists than I. Yes, 736 00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:51,599 I don't think there is not touching it. I we are criminal and I 737 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,920 really like those the look of it. I'm glad that they are not just 738 00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:58,480 selling it as a special list in PS five. They're selling the face plates 739 00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:01,360 separately. That's very cool. And I'm with Mike. I am not a 740 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,440 coward. I'm sticking with my white places. Yeah, watch a place. 741 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,719 I mean, if you made one that bits just looked like a place to 742 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,400 five, but like had a picture of an astrobot on it, maybe I 743 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,480 get Oh, yeah, we'll sure, Yeah, I would. I'm not 744 00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:16,000 saying I'm completely against the designs. I just think they tried to make it 745 00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:20,280 look too cool, and that's not what I want. I want to be 746 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:27,440 what it looks like. Big Fresh thirty seven says shadow Run. What's shadow 747 00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:30,599 run? Shadow Run? The servers got turned back on and fixed. That's 748 00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:35,440 right, that's right. I got confused because I just watched like a video 749 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,960 about the seas shadow Run. I was like, are you reading my mind? 750 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,559 What's going on here? You know a video? I watched a six 751 00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:45,320 hour of the history of video games. And what's really frustrating is I can't 752 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,559 stop watching it. But I don't think it's said a single thing that I 753 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,400 didn't know already. And I'm like, am I just doing this because it 754 00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:53,039 like reinforces things? I like? Am I that sad? Like? I 755 00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:57,199 assume it's a second screen thing for you right sitting there only watching that. 756 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,519 That's exactly. It's nice. It's it's nice, exactly. Yeah. Daraci 757 00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:06,239 says could a Microsoft own activision be cool enough to put StarCraft sixty four on 758 00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:12,239 nso? Uh, that would be very cool, that funny? Why it'd 759 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,159 be funny? And why not? That'd be the kind of that would be 760 00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:16,159 a fun BEng of stream because we've both be able to see what the other 761 00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:22,079 person is doing that split screen. I've played that game exactly once with a 762 00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:23,920 friend and we played a whole match and it was it was a good time. 763 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,960 Um, I would like to maybe try that again. Yeah, I 764 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,559 think it. Sean's bringing it up to Actually saw some on the eight bit 765 00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:32,880 do site, but they have a Neil Geo wireless control and that perks my 766 00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:36,239 attention. Yeah, it looks really good. I think. I'm like, 767 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,559 I think I'm entering my neo geo phase. Like I've been playing Neo turf 768 00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:43,639 Master. Yeah, I been feeling kind of a neo geoey recently. Maybe 769 00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:46,079 we'll see some neo geos at this uh that console thing I want to I'm 770 00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:50,760 like with some I man, I wonder how much Neo turf Masters machine would 771 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,199 call it? Think it's I think, well, it's not a machine, 772 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,880 it's it's always the boar tridge. Yes, I know you think it's very 773 00:48:54,920 --> 00:49:02,079 expensive. I believe. Uh see next one he is from Dominic Harman h 774 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,440 Karrca was one of the first games I ever played. I'm old, so 775 00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:09,039 I feel seen what making of would you want for one of the first games 776 00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:16,320 you played? Well, so I started with the NES generation. I mean, 777 00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:20,599 I don't know it's weird because I like, I'm trying to think, 778 00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:22,119 but I don't know how many of them would be interesting. I guess I 779 00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:27,559 would like a really in depth making of of Mega Man, and yet I 780 00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:30,679 also am not that curious about I think I know how they made Mega Man, 781 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,320 you know, in some sense of the word. I don't know if 782 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,519 you have like an amazing answer for this. No, I like, well, 783 00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:38,639 like what making of would you went for one for the one of the 784 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:44,159 first games you played? Um? No, because it's like, yeah, 785 00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:49,519 the stuff I played was very popular. I mean I wouldn't hate, like, 786 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,760 hey, here's how we figured out duck Hunt and all this stuff, 787 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,800 but yeah, like almost all of it would be pretty cool. Yeah, 788 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,159 And I don't know if there's like anything, well, I'm like, well 789 00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:00,039 that would just be the most interesting thing. Like you know, Metroid wont 790 00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:05,000 to be interesting. I guess like that'd be neat. Yeah, I'm I'm 791 00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:10,079 I'm like getting very hot and heavy about gunplaya Ukoi. So I think any 792 00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:14,639 of his early things game and Watch would be one I would really like to 793 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,440 hear more about. I barely I didn't even really had one, a friend 794 00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:22,679 had one, and I like touched it barely once. Uh So it's not 795 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,719 really in the spirit of this question, um, but I would like to 796 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,559 hear like him coming up with the game and watch and his thinking and then 797 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,960 kind of maybe the lineage from that to the game Boy, because the game 798 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,599 Boy, even in the two they thought the game Boy sucked the stablished things 799 00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:40,000 like what are we doing with this thing? And then they put it out. 800 00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:43,800 Of course it conquered the world, and I love that and that makes 801 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,039 me just like Gunplay YOKOI knew what he was doing more than anyone else, 802 00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:50,599 Like he defined what the world that we live in is it. We live 803 00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,840 in gun Play Yoko's world basically, and I would like a lot of history 804 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:59,079 on him. Luke Ge says, as a fellow, Ohio and Detroit got 805 00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:01,920 Robo Cup, Boston and Vegas got Fallout. New York City in La got 806 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:12,159 GTA. What series should Ohio get law to truck Out? RoboCop? Boston, 807 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,920 Vegas we get anything? I know, Like I mean, like you 808 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,719 know, West Virginia's basically Ohio, so we got Fallout as well. Yeah, 809 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,440 fallow Fall also goes to Pittsburgh sometimes, but that's very close but not 810 00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:24,760 quite. They're really skirting around Ohio. Yeah, and we were like in 811 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,960 the area that's not really the appellation part of Ohio, which is like what 812 00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:32,480 they're what they're dealing with over there. Uh yeah, I don't know. 813 00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:38,880 Uh, Farming Simulators is six. Yeah, there's there's really nothing Trucking Simulator 814 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,760 does like state by state expansions. I'll take the Ohio expansion for Trucking Simulator. 815 00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:47,119 There you go. I like it. Okay, next one here is 816 00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:51,679 from Sleepy Dad. Have y'all heard anything about Wonder Woman as the reception to 817 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:57,960 Suicide Squads Live service stuff changed anything about wonder World's Wonder World Wonder Women's development. 818 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,159 I don't know. Sue was so no, I'm probably not because, 819 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,519 like, wonder Woman can just be Batman, right, it can just be 820 00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:09,280 an Arkham Asylum game. But with Wonder Woman, Suicide Squad was trying to 821 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:15,039 be something different and people don't want different in that direction. They wanted another 822 00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:17,800 Batman game. So I think that Wonder Woman is the safe bet compared to 823 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:22,440 the Suicide Squads attempts to do, like to change up the formula. Ali 824 00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:27,440 Miracle says excited for some Fancy fourteen News next week with fan Fest and Mikey 825 00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:31,639 I am. I mean, I assume it might be time to at least 826 00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:36,320 talk about the next expansion, which is crazy, but like it will be 827 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,920 two years this uh this uh fall already is that out in the Vegas? 828 00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:45,400 That's a Vegas. That's a thing. Like I'm a little bum because I 829 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,320 could have gone when they invited me, and I like it was just this 830 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,440 is hard to like travel again, this summer thing, and like as much 831 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,239 as I loved Fancy fourteen, it's like definitely my like, you know, 832 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,880 my favorite game. Never mind, now I'm going to packs. Okay, 833 00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:01,559 So if you want to try to make that happen, yes, I gotta 834 00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:05,480 look into that. I know, I understand. Just if you if you 835 00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:07,960 can, Yeah, we're doing like a bunch of stuff four packs, So 836 00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:09,880 if you want to come and like be part of our panel, that'd be 837 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,480 cool. I'm just and like we'll see. Maybe we can fte Robo Mitch 838 00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:16,519 and background, maybe get them to fight on stage and we'll see. Yeah, 839 00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:19,880 but yeah, like there's gonna be a part of means It's like I 840 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,559 could have been at this fan fest and didn't, so I'm gonna feel like 841 00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:25,679 a little bit fomo on it. And I don't mean fear of mitching out. 842 00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:29,519 I mean, I don't even mean fear of missing out. I'm gonna 843 00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:32,400 mean missing out on that one. But I am definitely excited to see because 844 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:37,079 like we don't really know where the next expansion is going to go for fourteen, 845 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,920 so that's gonna be a lot of fun. Uh Air Miss Bearmis has 846 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,679 been watching the podcast more and more and you both have been great. Well, 847 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:45,679 thank you very much, Eric, Thank you so much. Sis. 848 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,079 That's awesome. I appreciate it. Thank you. Did you get uncharted Wolves 849 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,639 No, I skipped it accidentally, and I appreciate you reminding me and charl 850 00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:57,880 Wives's classic Call of d Coming Back is my game of the year favorite Call 851 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,280 of Duty Um, I mean, I think I think Modern Warfare one is 852 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,440 certainly the one. I like. Think back off the Mosque. It was 853 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,880 a time where it didn't feel like Called Duty was. It was big, 854 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,079 but it wasn't like it's almost own thing. It felt like, like, 855 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,519 you know, the hardcore game or quote unquote was just as happy to play 856 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:17,360 it as the Call of Duty Bros. Which wasn't really a thing yet yep. 857 00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:20,719 So, like you know, it was like, yeah, one game 858 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,199 of the year everywhere and everything. It was like prestigious, So it was 859 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,239 a lot of fun to play it, and it was all very new and 860 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,480 exciting. But other than that, Advanced Warfare was like the only one sort 861 00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:34,559 of post that that I put any significant time into. Yep. But what 862 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,239 Modern Warfare Call of Duty four is my answer too, Although you know, 863 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,840 I love Modern Warfare two, and I have fond memories of World at War 864 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,280 Black Ops one, Bottom Warfare three, Black Ops two to a certain extent, 865 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:52,280 and then Advanced Warfare to yes, and then kind of after that it 866 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,320 does that's when it really drops off after that one. A big Infinite Warfare 867 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,039 fan, I didn't spend much time with Infinite Warfare, although I always try 868 00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:01,239 to play the campaign in it seems like a real good roller coaster of a 869 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,159 time, and I never stick with it, and I'm like, I should 870 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,960 just play that on stream sometime or something. There you go, Yeah, 871 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,360 it's weird, like there's just all these campaigns that'd be fun to be interesting 872 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,920 steam things, just like or stream thing. I'm just gonna play through the 873 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,280 campaign exactly, and yeah, all right, that's it with the super test 874 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,559 for now. If you guys want to send more, we will read them 875 00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:21,119 before the end of the show. But we got some games that get to 876 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,840 but at first I think we need a little breaky break. We're gonna take 877 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,480 a quick break. When we get back, we are going to be doing 878 00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:30,320 those games. We're gonna do a Metacritic Closest to the Pen and we are 879 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,639 going to pick the best game of nineteen ninety six or the best five games, 880 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,760 So look out for that. I wonder, what's Canady number one? 881 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:43,880 Be right back and we are back. My understanding is we are going to 882 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,599 play a game of some sort and to do that, I hand the show 883 00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:51,159 over to Turbo Sean. Wait, have a game first. How many Margarita 884 00:55:51,159 --> 00:55:54,159 pills do you think are in the US? I'm gonna say, let's let 885 00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:58,719 me go. If there's a funy video everybody's sharing. There's one in Cleveland 886 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,320 that makes me think that there's got to be at least twenty and I'm gonna 887 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:07,159 say twenty two, twenty four by my council. Okay, damn all right, 888 00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:10,519 I'm right there. It's like I was gonna say, like one per 889 00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:14,400 every two state, but they haven't quite gotten that far, so yeah, 890 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,199 right, but basically are there there's like a ton in Florida and stuff like 891 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,360 that. Oh that makes sense. Yeah, I was just on average because 892 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,840 like they're not gonna put one. Okay, it definitely seems to be what 893 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,280 are the more random was and I'm a big fan of that. Yes, 894 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,920 three too. I think we need to personally see to it that it stays 895 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,199 in business, Mike, So, yes, that's right, making a big 896 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:37,119 the go to spot for fans of the game mess all right, the Cleveland 897 00:56:37,199 --> 00:56:40,400 Maugerita vill specifically to sponsor. Yes, we should. We should do a 898 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,119 fan meet up there, like like really like playing something like that at some 899 00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:46,480 point. And I don't know when it would make sense, but we should 900 00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:50,400 try to make it happen. Uh, Sean, this show is now yours 901 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,840 go. My thunder has been thoroughly stolen. Yes, thank you for that. 902 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,280 We are back once again when something we haven't done it a little bit. 903 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,440 It has been hot. Second, we had our stuff to do, 904 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,039 but we are backward. Closest to the Messy Pin Volume twelve presented by Me 905 00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:12,440 Turbo Sean, powered by Metacritic, executivelytic. Excuse me of course, yeah, 906 00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:15,440 she disclosure. Yes, I'm gonna do the shot. Well, Sean 907 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:20,199 explains the rules. Oh, he's actually getting up audio listeners. That's great. 908 00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:23,920 He's doing a shot. He's doing a shot. Is going is? 909 00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:30,639 What is up with him? This isn't, honestly one of the most disconcerting 910 00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:35,719 things I've ever seen. Mike do he went to the dispensary today or something? 911 00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:37,920 What's going on? It might be high alright, alright, alright, 912 00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:42,119 anyway, as he requested, Yes, since we haven't done it in one, 913 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,000 Ll explained the full rules. Every round, the boys will be given 914 00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:50,519 a certified retro game that is older than ten years for anyone doesn't know. 915 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,719 The goal here is to protect the games of Metacre score as a stands on 916 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,960 metacre dot com. We will be using a closest to the pin scoring system 917 00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:04,039 aka golf rules. You want to be the lowest score at the end of 918 00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:06,599 the game. You want to be as close as possible to the score. 919 00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:10,400 In order do so, if you guess the exact number, instead of getting 920 00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:15,119 zero points, you will have five points deducted from your TOL score. Does 921 00:58:15,159 --> 00:58:19,199 that make sense to everyone? Makes sense to me? Yeah? What doesn't 922 00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:22,199 make sense to me is Jefferson Bourbon. I know quite a bit about Thomas 923 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:27,679 Jefferson. That man drink wine. He was not much for spirits of this 924 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,599 nature. Yeah, but like he's not the only Jefferson. Yeah. Well, 925 00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:32,360 to be clear, there's a giant picture of him on the back. 926 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,559 Yeah. But maybe it's like, you know, his cousin is just like 927 00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:40,320 a big fan. This is like him a huntering him or something. Oh 928 00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:47,679 my god, Okay, you had to power through this. Shown. Game 929 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:54,960 number one is Call of Duty two, released on the Xbox three sixty November 930 00:58:55,079 --> 00:59:00,360 seventeenth, two thousand and five, based on sixty five critic reviews. I 931 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,239 actually can't remember whose turn is to go first, So I just flipped a 932 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,119 coin and Alpha Beta Mic, you'll be picking first. Yeah, yeah, 933 00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:13,079 Called Duty two. I remember it was like a standout hit from that launch 934 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:19,880 period, but still not like what Called Duty would become obviously, So I 935 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,840 was saying eighty five for Call of Duty two. Eighty five from Mikey there 936 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:29,079 got it. I remember that Call of Duty one was like almost game of 937 00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:31,599 the year material on PC, like it was like a big thing, and 938 00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:36,639 then, uh, I think Called Duty two mostly maintained a lot of that 939 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:45,760 energy. So I'm gonna go within eighty seven eighty seven for Jeff there, 940 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:54,239 and Call of Duty two is sitting at an eighty nine. People liked it, 941 00:59:54,519 --> 00:59:58,960 Yes, they really didn't want thought they really liked pretty much every Call 942 00:59:59,039 --> 01:00:01,559 of Duty. I think maybe Big Red one was like not quite as love 943 01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:05,320 that can't. Yeah, I remember that one being a little cooler. Yeah, 944 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,559 like that one felt like one where they were first, like for time, 945 01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:09,159 they were really rushing. Yeah, unless it was a weird one like 946 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,159 black ops to classify, usually it does pretty well, right, Okay, 947 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,800 so Mike was four points off there, Jeff was two points off. Jeff 948 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,559 has a lower score, which means he is leading going into game number two. 949 01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:27,440 Crash Bandicoot three warped at least for the original PlayStation October thirty first, 950 01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:30,639 nineteen ninety eight, twelve critic reviews, which seems I guess a little low. 951 01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:34,440 But it is an older game, so it's just the package. He's 952 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,079 been even ninety eight. There would have been online stuff that is low. 953 01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:39,480 That's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Um, I don't know. 954 01:00:39,519 --> 01:00:43,239 I remember all the N sixty four websites. I don't remember all the PlayStation 955 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:49,880 websites. At that time game spot in IG just game spot any where, 956 01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:53,480 they still UND sixty four document. They were probably IGN sixty four dot com 957 01:00:53,559 --> 01:00:58,400 by ninety Yeah. I think they were just straight ed by gn already by 958 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,840 that point even but maybe maybe and wrong. Who can say? Nobody knows. 959 01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:05,320 Um, let's see, this is tough for me. I was never 960 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,239 a crash bandicoot guy. Um, so this is mostly a stab in the 961 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:14,440 dark. But I'm gonna imagine that, uh, they got better and better 962 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:19,880 at making these over there at Naughty It's Naughty Dog, right, um Jesus 963 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,840 Christ. Yes, yeah, listen, I'm just a brain fart. Um. 964 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:31,239 I'm gonna say it's an eighty eighty six eighties six Okay, Yeah, 965 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,480 I think they'd get better. I think this is still a lot of people, 966 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,800 maybe a lot of people's favorite. There might be a little fatigue, 967 01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:44,599 but I still think probably high eighties is right. I will say eighty eight. 968 01:01:45,679 --> 01:01:51,920 Okay, going a little bit higher the score we go. Okay, 969 01:01:52,159 --> 01:02:00,119 Well, crash bandard who three warped has a nine people really like. I 970 01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:02,599 guess that low. The low number of reviewers should have tipped us off because 971 01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:06,840 it's like it was going to be self selecting. All right, well, 972 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,079 I means the boys are tied seven to seven. We have game number three 973 01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:15,760 now, the Legend of Spiro, Dawn of the Dragon. I'll give you 974 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,599 a little context here. This is the last of the reboot series of Spiro. 975 01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:24,400 Please, we're looking at the PlayStation three version. October twenty first, 976 01:02:24,639 --> 01:02:30,079 two thousand and eight, twenty two Critic reviews, Mike, what are you 977 01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:31,920 thinking here? I don't think there was much love for these ones. U 978 01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:38,119 gosh, they really flew under the radar immensely at this point. So I 979 01:02:38,239 --> 01:02:42,119 see what we're doing here by lay cute all that Division games. I think 980 01:02:42,159 --> 01:02:45,280 you mean first party Xbox Games, Yes, exactly. Uh yeah. For 981 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:49,519 some reason, then I forgot that they would also own Spiro. That's interesting 982 01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:55,199 Skylanders. Remember when they made that that they that remake trilogy for Spiro and 983 01:02:55,239 --> 01:02:59,719 it was a big hit and then nothing kids like that. It's good, 984 01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:02,519 very good. I kind of want to go relatively lower. I'm gonna say, 985 01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:07,599 like sixty nine, dude, let's go in two thousand and eight. 986 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:15,960 Yeah. Yeah, um, I am gonna go with seventy five. Okay, 987 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,480 I think I hope my chance to make up some points here let's go 988 01:03:20,679 --> 01:03:22,760 make up you. I mean, we're time, so you'll just go go 989 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:23,599 in the league. We're tight, that's right, I mean, well, 990 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:30,920 still shot kicking already, might go a little larger, Jacko a little bit 991 01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:35,440 higher, still hovering around the seven range. Well, let inspiral Donald the 992 01:03:35,559 --> 01:03:45,280 Dragon has Oh let's go, let's go, man, let's go, let's 993 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,119 go, let's go. Yea, Mike does pull all of those, all 994 01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:52,320 of those Activision games that we're not that we're not call of duty in that 995 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,920 time. We're pretty rough. Even the Crash ones I think did a little 996 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,760 better than the Spiral ones at the time. Like I think I think it 997 01:03:59,199 --> 01:04:02,320 varied moral Crash because of how different they all were. Crash of the Titans, 998 01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:05,599 right, Yeah, like Twins is like a brawler, mostly weird. 999 01:04:06,199 --> 01:04:09,719 Yeah, I don't know that. It was a very weird time where they're 1000 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,840 sort of farming stuff out or like throwing stuff at the wall. Yeah. 1001 01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:17,519 Anyways, Mike pulls ahead here with seventeen points versus Jeff's twenty three game number 1002 01:04:17,559 --> 01:04:24,960 four is Gonna be Guitar Hero. The original release for a PS two November 1003 01:04:25,079 --> 01:04:29,679 seventh, two five sixty five critic reviews A lot to work with here, 1004 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:35,000 Jeff, Yeah, uh man, I remember it being a phenomenon, but 1005 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:41,519 I don't necessarily know what that meant, like one critical like darling, but 1006 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,960 I know there were a lot of people in the media who really liked it. 1007 01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:50,079 But I feel I feel like it mostly did like potential Game of the 1008 01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:55,440 Year numbers in terms of review. So I'm gonna go with a ninety three, 1009 01:04:57,039 --> 01:05:00,960 okay. I don't know if the first one was quite that high. 1010 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:06,039 I remember everyone was very into it, very excited about it. I liked 1011 01:05:06,039 --> 01:05:08,920 a lot. I kind of man, this is the one. I'm probably 1012 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,360 the most nostalgic for you. This is the one. I really remember the 1013 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,239 track last I liked back when they did covers instead of having the originals. 1014 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,800 I'll go a little bit lore. I'm gonna say eighty nine Okay, still 1015 01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:24,519 very good score though, Yeah, I really had that song called Guitar Here. 1016 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,679 Remember that gonna be a guitar here? I don't exactly. Mike remembers 1017 01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:33,440 it wasn't very fun this one. I think three is where they really on 1018 01:05:33,519 --> 01:05:41,719 their footing. But the critics thought a guitar hero the first deserved cumulatively, 1019 01:05:44,719 --> 01:05:47,280 you guys, the difference they're both gain two packs. That's good for me. 1020 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:53,480 Actually, yes, Mike continues as lead here quite a big one six 1021 01:05:53,639 --> 01:05:59,320 points difference here. Mike with the lead of nineteen points to Jeff's twenty five 1022 01:06:00,119 --> 01:06:10,280 into the final game Candy Crush Saga. Look at the iOS version release November 1023 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:16,039 fourteen, twenty twelve. Nine critic reviews to work with. What the hell 1024 01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:24,360 do I do with this? Cry? Maybe eighty five? Confident I like 1025 01:06:24,519 --> 01:06:28,039 it. That sucks because it's like so hard for me to like to get 1026 01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,000 the points I need in either direction, right, That's why I did it, 1027 01:06:30,119 --> 01:06:31,760 Yeah, coward, I mean, I don't know how I have to 1028 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,559 get that on here at that point reduction or I hope it's like way or 1029 01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:39,639 I hope that he's way off and I can get it in um too, 1030 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,519 So that means just I'm gonna go with seventy eight. Then, um, 1031 01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:46,119 I don't know if that's really what I believe, but I have to do 1032 01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:51,280 that. So yep, all right, Jeff slock in seventy eight, Mike's 1033 01:06:51,320 --> 01:07:06,719 got eighty five, Candy Crush Saga has seventy nine. Jeff was so close. 1034 01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:15,800 I was about one point between them. Mike wins twenty five to be 1035 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,079 safe. It's literally what I thought in my head. One more to be 1036 01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:24,599 safe, and that's a very good gift. So that's a good gift. 1037 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:29,360 Strong for people wondering on your listeners, it's a it's a gift of Rocky 1038 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,679 Balboa looking at a picture of Bobby Kodak and then crumbling it up because he's 1039 01:07:32,719 --> 01:07:35,760 going to destroy them. Him in the rain for a moment from Rocky four. 1040 01:07:36,679 --> 01:07:40,079 Great moment. It's my new favorite. Jeff ever, Yeah, that's 1041 01:07:40,239 --> 01:07:42,440 really good. I've never seen this. I've never seen it before either. 1042 01:07:42,519 --> 01:07:45,519 That's really god Rocky with that weird it's funny because he's like, oh, 1043 01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:49,079 he's in he's trading in Siberias, so he has a beard yet this is 1044 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:54,519 this a really well trimmed, well man to look well manicured. Yeah. 1045 01:07:54,559 --> 01:07:58,400 Absolutely, such a good game as always, mister Bob. Thank you very 1046 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,639 much. Yeah, thank you so much. We apreciate that. That was 1047 01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:01,920 a fun time. Thank you Sean for your help there as well. Of 1048 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,000 course, Jeff, do you need a second to get ready for the game 1049 01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:09,760 of the Year of nineteen ninety six Liberations? I do. Let's do that. 1050 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,599 Then right back, everybody and we're back to do gab of the Year 1051 01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:16,600 in nineteen ninety six. If you missed, was it last week's episode? 1052 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,279 Where you did nineteen ninety five was last week? If you missed it. 1053 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:25,119 What we do is me and Mike come up with the games that should be 1054 01:08:25,159 --> 01:08:29,479 the top five or nineteen ninety six in order, the top five games of 1055 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,000 the year. We do take your input. If you're in chat live, 1056 01:08:32,039 --> 01:08:34,600 go ahead and throw it on there, But mostly we're gonna be looking at 1057 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,720 our friends, the podcast producers on the discord. We'll be checking in with 1058 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,560 them here in a second. But Mike, where do we start for Game 1059 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,479 of the Year nineteen ninety six? Yeah? I wonder where we go. 1060 01:08:46,199 --> 01:08:49,319 There's a very obvious one here that I can't imagine. It's not going to 1061 01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:51,319 be number one, but that's fine. If we're doing a five, it'll 1062 01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:56,399 still be interesting, I swear. But Mario sixty four ka bown in nineteen 1063 01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:00,359 ninety six one of the grands gimes of all time, definitely one of the 1064 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,600 most important games of all time. I don't need to explain why Supermore sixty 1065 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,800 four is still incredible. I still love playing it. But yeah, just 1066 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,640 like the importance factor also just and incredibly off the charts. This is a 1067 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,760 really interesting year. Just I mean, you know, just last year, 1068 01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:18,800 you know we were doing this, and just how much more we are figuring 1069 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:23,560 out three D in this year. It's pretty nuts. Yes, I mean, 1070 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,840 I mean looking back now the ninth like where the nineties started with games 1071 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,119 and where it ended. That's like there was so much advancement. It is 1072 01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:36,000 crazy. But compared to now, we're like our games are basically like they 1073 01:09:36,039 --> 01:09:41,239 were in the three sixty generation, just looking better. Like there's still like 1074 01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:44,239 some yeah, there's like some stuff there that feels different, a lot of 1075 01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:46,760 it more design and even UI wise, But man, yeah it is. 1076 01:09:47,119 --> 01:09:50,680 It was crazy just living through that. How how much things could change from 1077 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:57,159 a year in nineteen ninety five to nineteen ninety six. M yeah, it 1078 01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:02,479 is Super sixty four or clearly with the one with a bullet for me um 1079 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:09,039 next, I probably personally go with Wave Race sixty four, which came out 1080 01:10:09,079 --> 01:10:12,920 in December of that year. I know you're a Wave Race sixty four freak. 1081 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,039 Are you like your Wave Race more than pilot Wings? Oh? Yeah, 1082 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,520 I do, say I just wanted to make sure. Yeah, pilot 1083 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,920 Wings is fun, but Wave Race sixty four is just like mine blowing any 1084 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,880 good. It's great. I'm gonna have a maybe a hard time with it 1085 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,279 at number two. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm just getting on the 1086 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,279 mark. I'm just preparing you for this. Yes, it's it's on the 1087 01:10:32,399 --> 01:10:35,880 shortlist one thousand percent, but I'm not saying it has to be number two 1088 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,880 on the list. We're just getting the games up though, right now, 1089 01:10:39,159 --> 01:10:42,840 Okay, because like, if there's some interesting once here, I think if 1090 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,119 I had to say, like what I think a number two would be, 1091 01:10:45,119 --> 01:10:48,840 I would go at the original Resident Evil. Oh sure, yeah, I 1092 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:54,319 could see that another very important three D game. Yes, started this franchise 1093 01:10:54,399 --> 01:10:56,239 that we are still talking about. That. That's one thing we did to 1094 01:10:56,279 --> 01:11:00,319 talk about the news was Resive before selling five million copies. And if that 1095 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,119 I'll ask you right there because like I'm also like, god, that seems 1096 01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:06,199 like a little slower than I think. And then maybe we're ruined by looking 1097 01:11:06,279 --> 01:11:12,199 at switch sales numbers YAU, probably because there's also a story about Square Enix 1098 01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:15,800 going on about how happy they were that Physy sixteen sold three that's a play 1099 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:20,840 Statue five exclusive, and absolutely that's a good number. Anyone who's saying placed 1100 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,600 there the final Fantasy sixteen numbers aren't good? Are is insane? Like those 1101 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,560 very good, straight up really good sales for that, I agree, It's 1102 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,239 like that thing. It was like those are good obviously and look like the 1103 01:11:30,359 --> 01:11:35,560 best selling U Resumeal game. I think it's still seven at like twelve million, 1104 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:41,079 and two remake did like eleven million and Resume four it's maybe still beat 1105 01:11:41,159 --> 01:11:43,359 that with sales and all that stuff, so I'm sure it's still good. 1106 01:11:43,359 --> 01:11:45,159 But yeah, it's like, man, here's like this popular franchise with this 1107 01:11:45,279 --> 01:11:49,479 really hot company with a game Metacritic score above the nineties, and like, 1108 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:54,720 still it seems like you can there is like a limit there. I don't 1109 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,600 know, maybe maybe my reality is is shifted there. Five million is probably 1110 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,399 obviously very good for that. Yep. Um, I got a couple of 1111 01:12:02,399 --> 01:12:04,640 places I'm gonna go, but I'm just gonna say the one that definitely needs 1112 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:09,319 to do. Let me say one thing about the Evil real quick, because 1113 01:12:09,359 --> 01:12:12,439 like you know, I played that remake last year. The ruling that came 1114 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,880 out like for GameCube and it was the HD version on s Team is really 1115 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,520 good. It's really good, right, And then um, but like I 1116 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,720 went to play the original and it was a directors cut granted, but a 1117 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,600 PlayStation on an emulator, and I was like, I want to just see 1118 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,039 like how different it is. I ended up just playing through that whole version 1119 01:12:27,079 --> 01:12:30,880 too. It's still very good. It's amazing. It's amazing how they've really 1120 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:35,159 kind of stumbled onto a new genre while taking a lot from sort of Metroid 1121 01:12:35,239 --> 01:12:40,520 Vinia stuff, Like there are definitely those elements there, but like making something 1122 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,600 new with it again inspired by like some things like Alone in the Dark. 1123 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,319 But yeah, that is still a really fun, a really interesting game to 1124 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:51,359 play. Resident Evil big time important but also still just really interesting to me. 1125 01:12:53,079 --> 01:12:57,439 Uh yeah, reds Evil, very very good game. Super Mario RPG 1126 01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,119 is going to be up here. Yeah, super marir PG. There's our 1127 01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:04,119 boy. Uh really, don't you say you're lying about it that way? 1128 01:13:04,119 --> 01:13:09,840 It makes me mad, But yeah, it's it's like if if they squares 1129 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,399 off to make a RPG but only fun. How you shut the hell up. 1130 01:13:14,199 --> 01:13:17,439 But yes, Mario RPG, it really it's great. Yes, it's 1131 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,840 the game that it's the first RPG I ever beat. Uh So it kind 1132 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,760 of really instilled a love of that genre for me, and it's still one 1133 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,399 that any time I go back to it's still fun. Incredible characters. I 1134 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,880 mean, it does so much for sort of establishing a lot about Mario, 1135 01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:35,439 like the idea that Mario could be funny and stuff, like something that was 1136 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,920 in the cartoon. There was a little bit of that in the games, 1137 01:13:39,239 --> 01:13:42,000 but a lot of that is really stablished Heer, especially if Bowser being a 1138 01:13:42,079 --> 01:13:45,199 giant goober that kind of stuff. Right. So, God, I love 1139 01:13:45,239 --> 01:13:48,079 this game. Juno and Mallow, incredible Psycher. I mean, oh, 1140 01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:53,760 we're gonna have two ocs and the Mario RPG. I'm really saw just with 1141 01:13:54,239 --> 01:13:58,039 the last Mario plus Rabbits how that can kind of go awry just adding the 1142 01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:00,640 original character in there and like no one can hairs. But do you know, 1143 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,079 AMT people still care deeply about them. This game is getting a remake 1144 01:14:03,159 --> 01:14:06,479 because people care so much. Yeah, it's a fantastic game, Yep, 1145 01:14:08,279 --> 01:14:13,920 it's it is. They just felt really focused on making it fun and interactive 1146 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,640 and ensuring that you always feel like you're a part of the action. And 1147 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,600 then, like you said, so much personality. Just one of the most 1148 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:23,359 personality driven games made to that point. I really, really adore it. 1149 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,960 Yeah, it's very very good stuff. I have another one that I think 1150 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,000 should be on here, but it is your turn if we want to do 1151 01:14:30,079 --> 01:14:34,079 it that way. Yeah, let me. Okay, So there's some interesting 1152 01:14:34,159 --> 01:14:36,760 ones. These are more. These are less. I'm like certain it needs 1153 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,680 to be on there and not like throwing some stuff out. Well, okay, 1154 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,279 this is actually pretty big one that maybe should be on there. Uh, 1155 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,359 this is what you're gonna say, Quake. Yes, I was gonna 1156 01:14:45,399 --> 01:14:48,800 say, the actual most important three D game up to this point, Quake, 1157 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:55,560 Yes, yeah, just uh, the follow up to Doom and the 1158 01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:00,720 first like real all three D game for computers at that point, Like you 1159 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:05,439 know, before it's software, like even like getting side scrolling graphics working on 1160 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:11,079 computers was difficult, like they, like a lot of software developers struggle with 1161 01:15:11,119 --> 01:15:13,680 that. Computers weren't made to do that. And then you know, they 1162 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,359 figured out with Commander Keane. But then the fact that they just kept going 1163 01:15:15,399 --> 01:15:17,880 and pushing the boundary, pushing the boundaries, and then what they come out 1164 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:23,359 with is the ultra fast, amazing three D graphics of Quake, and then 1165 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:29,399 Quake kicking off the three D graphics accelerator accelerator movement and encouraging everyone to start 1166 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,840 putting those in their computer. And then on top of that, just a 1167 01:15:32,039 --> 01:15:36,000 super solid game that's fun to play and fun to move around. And yeah, 1168 01:15:36,079 --> 01:15:40,960 Quake is super important, super important, and also again game they nott 1169 01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,359 remastered out on Goo and it's still one I think is a lot of fun. 1170 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,439 I like it's like slightly like it's like medieval occult is kind of the 1171 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,319 vibe here, and that's a lot of fun. Eventually Quake would be much 1172 01:15:50,319 --> 01:15:55,119 more sci fi, but I do like those vibes of this one. Yeah, 1173 01:15:55,199 --> 01:15:59,600 incredibly important game and also still really fun. Definitely in that lineage that 1174 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:05,039 like you over side three d U Doom Quake yep, And it's so important, 1175 01:16:05,119 --> 01:16:11,079 so influential that you can trace elements of Call of Duty's engine all the 1176 01:16:11,119 --> 01:16:15,199 way back to the original Quake. There are there's a commonality there where it's 1177 01:16:15,239 --> 01:16:18,960 like Call of Duty was made on in tech for a very long time and 1178 01:16:19,319 --> 01:16:23,399 and like that stuff. It's not necessarily anymore, but there's definitely gonna be 1179 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,520 some elements there that are still there, and that goes all the way back 1180 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:30,000 to Quake. Did you have something else that you were thinking about quake. 1181 01:16:30,199 --> 01:16:32,239 It was definitely it. But uh, when did Pokemon Red and Blue come 1182 01:16:32,239 --> 01:16:35,920 out in North America? Not nine eight, so we're doing North America releases 1183 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,159 the Carrol in Japan in ninety six. That's that's what I thought. So 1184 01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:40,520 I was like, I was trying to like them. I'm like, I 1185 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,880 remember having my car when I played Pokemon, so I'm like that had to 1186 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,000 be much later. It was a long It was a pretty long break, 1187 01:16:46,119 --> 01:16:49,479 partly because you know, they're translating RPG sick a while back then, but 1188 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:54,520 also because I think they weren't sure because the Gateway was actually kind of a 1189 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:59,359 dying platform and nor America at that point a really slowed down significantly and a 1190 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,159 gate like Pokemon completely revived it, but at the time they didn't know it 1191 01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:08,960 was going to hit here. Also, there's one that I think people might 1192 01:17:09,039 --> 01:17:13,920 mention we could start checking the podcast producer sharing a second, but I don't 1193 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,399 really feel strongly about it. In fact, I think it probably shouldn't be 1194 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,359 on the list, and that's tomb Raider. I don't I don't really enjoy 1195 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:24,039 playing tomb Raider. You know what, When I was having my nostalgic PlayStation 1196 01:17:24,119 --> 01:17:27,399 era thing because after playing Resideval want to playing on stuff. I was really 1197 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,920 excited I'm gonna play tomb Raider because like that was this thing and I haven't 1198 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,279 really played much of those. I fell off that pretty quick, Jeff us. 1199 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,399 It's not a whole lot of fun to play anyway. Look, it 1200 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,479 was also important. We were also figuring a lot of stuff out with three 1201 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,000 games, and there's definitely a charm to it. There's definitely something that caught 1202 01:17:45,119 --> 01:17:47,920 the zeit geis. But I don't think very many people have that much fun 1203 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:53,800 going back and playing the original tumb Raider. Yeah, and it's well, 1204 01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,359 we'll see, We'll see what the podcast producers say, but I'm I'm guessing 1205 01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,279 not many even say tomb Raider because even for fans of that series, it 1206 01:18:00,399 --> 01:18:03,840 like really starts with tumb Rat or two, and even that one it doesn't 1207 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:09,000 hold up really at right. Sure, Okay, I do have the podcast 1208 01:18:09,039 --> 01:18:11,319 producers here, Mike, do you have any other ones you want to mention? 1209 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,640 What we want to like? Ye would be interesting? Is the first 1210 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,279 good again? Maybe this is the neo geo I mean, but the first 1211 01:18:19,319 --> 01:18:25,439 metal Slugka out in nineteen ninety six, and that is like maybe still like 1212 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,399 I mean, there's sequels to it, but like still the prettiest two D 1213 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,119 pixel game made, especially of the era. Yeah, we're making pixel games. 1214 01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:35,479 It is incredible. How good that game looks um So there's something the 1215 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,560 Metal Slug. I don't know if I can make it, but I want 1216 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:43,039 to bring up Metal Slug. All right, let's get into these podcast producers 1217 01:18:43,079 --> 01:18:44,800 things, and there's anything else we want to bring up, we can get 1218 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,199 them afterwards. There's maybe a couple I want to mention, but we'll see 1219 01:18:46,199 --> 01:18:50,239 if the community mentions it. All right, gears Wolf says, Super Mario 1220 01:18:50,359 --> 01:18:54,319 sixty four. Excuse me, he says, and that's a pretty obvious answer. 1221 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,000 Yeah, here we are. Cranch Basketball says the same thing, as 1222 01:18:57,079 --> 01:19:00,760 does mister Bohler, but mister Buller says, the dark horse pick is Civilization 1223 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:05,359 two, which I played some of, but I was definitely my start with 1224 01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:10,159 Civilization three in earnest, so I'm not in any way going to be going 1225 01:19:10,159 --> 01:19:13,560 to bad for Civilization. I mean my start was SIF Revolution and then like 1226 01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,680 SIF four I knew about because of the song, and SIF five I played, 1227 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,239 but yeah, I did. I wasn't playing SIV two. SIF two 1228 01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,560 is the one I think that people who have been playing since the first one 1229 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,760 they mentioned, that's the one that really blew it open for them. But 1230 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,640 that's just yeah, I don't know. It's hard for me to put Civilization 1231 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,800 two on the list. Let's see here. Lenny Cool Dick Denver one called 1232 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,960 the shot. Can't wait for Jeff to say Wave Ray sixty four before any 1233 01:19:36,039 --> 01:19:42,760 other games, and that's exactly what happened. Very very good, Panda says 1234 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,920 super Mario RPG, the Legend of the Seven Stars, the pinnacle of Graphics 1235 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,479 in nineteen ninety six. Doctor Ryan says the easy answer but still correct, 1236 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:54,039 is super Mario sixty four. It still plays as becau as it did the 1237 01:19:54,119 --> 01:19:56,960 day it came out. It still holds interest, it's still sparks joy. 1238 01:19:57,199 --> 01:20:00,439 It would be easy to pick something else to spur discussion, but the truth 1239 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,840 is nothing from nineteen ninety six top supermar sixty four. He might be onto 1240 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:08,439 something, Haas says commanded Conquer read Alert, which is definitely a very good 1241 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:13,359 game. Uh, but you know we'll see fluffy cloud gamers. Supermar sixty 1242 01:20:13,359 --> 01:20:15,840 four is easily the best, uh, cass Bucker, who also says Mario 1243 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,359 sixty four. Boppenheimer says, okay, fine, all zag crashed second, 1244 01:20:20,399 --> 01:20:24,960 what else? The fuffy cloud gamers say, let's see, it's easily the 1245 01:20:25,039 --> 01:20:29,479 best, but oh, but want to shout out Kirby's Superstar Kirby Superstars nineteen 1246 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,319 ninety six. Oh, yes, it is that. It is, like 1247 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,840 I've realized, it was a surprisingly late release, which is why I never 1248 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:40,359 played it. I thought I thought it because like man that it might have 1249 01:20:40,399 --> 01:20:44,800 been ninety five. No, it's nineteen ninety six. Three. I thought 1250 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:49,199 that was like a really late super Nintendo Kirby games that also just came out 1251 01:20:49,319 --> 01:20:53,920 ninety six. But whatever, Nintendo and putting out multiple Kirby games a years, 1252 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,680 they're a better combination, I don't think so. I really like Kirby 1253 01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,920 Superstar. Jeff, I love this game. I never played this because it 1254 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,479 came out so late that I was like playing Super Mario Pug just waiting for 1255 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,880 ninteen of sixty four. It was I did the co ops so well. 1256 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:11,079 It was just so much fun with like the like the different versions of Kirby. 1257 01:21:11,279 --> 01:21:14,079 It was just really slick and we'll paced it was the first one where 1258 01:21:14,119 --> 01:21:16,520 like each Kirby ability wasn't just like, oh, well, now Kirby shoots 1259 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,039 Ice, It's oh, Kirby gets a whole new move set built around Ice, 1260 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:24,399 and that stuff was really fun. I want I want Kirby Superstar up 1261 01:21:24,399 --> 01:21:28,560 for consideration at least, and it was on the short list. Alex says 1262 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,800 Resident Evil was neat gb Krantz as Super Mario sixty four, but personally I 1263 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,439 have to give it to Mario Kart sixty four. Three was ninety seven, 1264 01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,439 by the way, interesting, thank you, thank you, chat Wow. 1265 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,319 Snuffkin says, I hate to go with the boring answer, but Bob C 1266 01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:45,560 three D, which pioneered the way forward for three D games. Casual says 1267 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,560 per Rappa the Rapper, which is one I wanted to mention, But I 1268 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,960 don't think it's going to make the list. Metcha, It's not gonna make 1269 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,119 it. There's no way. Mario Kart sixty four was ninety six. I 1270 01:21:53,239 --> 01:21:56,680 had to be like ninety eight at least. I think it might be ninety 1271 01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,399 seven, but I don't think it. So it's ninety six of Japan December. 1272 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,199 But North America like to Night seven, so we get talked about that. 1273 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,720 Okay time, Uh, super mar sixty four is just okay. Put 1274 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:10,880 Quake on the list, as beef Hammer Jesus sprits Beef Well, you're half 1275 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:15,039 right. Jat Jat Big says I'll go with super Mario RPG Wildfire. Alex 1276 01:22:15,079 --> 01:22:18,000 says, the fuck it's super Mario sixty four. I'm sorry everyone, I 1277 01:22:18,119 --> 01:22:23,560 failed you. Uh. Octo says a lot of great games in ninety six, 1278 01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:28,479 but personal favorites like Broken Sword, Shadow of the Templars and Diabola one. 1279 01:22:29,079 --> 01:22:30,880 But I have to give it up to Neighborhood, the weirdest adventure game 1280 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:35,199 with the funkiest soundtrack. Remember looking at this game and never really actually seeing 1281 01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:39,560 it in action? Yeah, it's a it's a it's a cool game. 1282 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,680 I have a friend who really likes the Neighborhood. Really cool game. I 1283 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,880 don't think it's gonna make the list. Sorry, let's see. Doctor Sat 1284 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:51,720 says Wavery sixty four. You know, in addition to the unavoidable Super Mario 1285 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:57,680 sixty four, seffroth to super mar sixty four. Breadfish says, the Elder 1286 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,159 scrolls too, dagger Fall. Do you ever play this? Nah? Everything 1287 01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:06,479 before Mara Went is a bit the two early PCRPG jank for me. I'm 1288 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:11,960 sorry, ye same here. Dacci says, I'm gonna say Revelations Persona the 1289 01:23:12,079 --> 01:23:15,359 very first persona game. It's monster Negotiation collection. Mechanics were really cool, 1290 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,119 and the setting, story, and atmosphere gave the game a truly unique, 1291 01:23:18,359 --> 01:23:23,800 creepy feeling that modo personas can't quite match. Uh, where's the heart though? 1292 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,399 Jeff, Yeah, it's yeah, the heart's best over there. And 1293 01:23:26,399 --> 01:23:30,840 shimma got my tensee at that time. Jamie h Christmas Eve says, shout 1294 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,159 out to the goat, mister Bones. Let's go, mister Bones. Bones 1295 01:23:33,279 --> 01:23:36,319 is such a silly game. It's like that's the first mister Bones. That's 1296 01:23:36,359 --> 01:23:41,640 the first auto runner as an auto Runner section, it's not the That's what 1297 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,000 it is, okay, close to the whole game. There's a lot of 1298 01:23:44,079 --> 01:23:48,079 different gameplay mods, is okay? Uh what as CPU says, I will 1299 01:23:48,119 --> 01:23:53,399 now try to predict what the boomerass crossed out very Mike and Jeff list will 1300 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,000 be. He says, Star Wars Shadow the Empire, filling the shitty Star 1301 01:23:57,079 --> 01:24:00,359 Wars game. Quota dot Com Country three, Lay Race sixty four, Super 1302 01:24:00,399 --> 01:24:04,800 Mario RPG, Super Mario sixty four, and he says Street Fighter Alpha two 1303 01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:09,119 snubbed because Mike didn't play it, Pokemon Red and Green stubbed because Mike Kate's 1304 01:24:09,159 --> 01:24:13,279 Pokemon Reside. Evil snubbed us, Yeah, because it's not the best one 1305 01:24:13,319 --> 01:24:15,640 in the series. And Civilization two snubbed because it doesn't have Bobby yet too. 1306 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,359 That's a very good point. That's just an excellent point there, one 1307 01:24:18,399 --> 01:24:21,760 of a man. Thanks for reminding me that Shows of the Empire came out 1308 01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:26,359 in nineteen ninety six, did it? I'm trying to see. I think 1309 01:24:26,399 --> 01:24:28,479 it was. It was like a launch window game, right, I mean, 1310 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,600 but look, we have a lot of affinity for that game. It 1311 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,079 wasn't a big deal. It's not going to make the top fight I mean, 1312 01:24:33,159 --> 01:24:35,960 the Hawth Novel's top five, but the rest of the game drags it 1313 01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:42,159 right, right. Crono Bounce says a personal favorite from nineteen ninety six is 1314 01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:45,319 Guardian Heroes. Treasure created one of the greatest beat them ups of all time 1315 01:24:45,399 --> 01:24:49,319 with branching paths and a killer soundtrack. My runner up would be Neo Turfmasters. 1316 01:24:50,199 --> 01:24:53,520 Is that this year? That's interesting? Man. Guardian Heroes is a 1317 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,760 game I want to play so bad. It's a Saga Saturn game. I 1318 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,680 just didn't have it back then, and everyone talks about it's one of the 1319 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,960 best games for that system and it's treasure. I've never played. Sure, 1320 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,560 it's great, but yeah, I just have not played it before. Is 1321 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,560 Neil Turfman. I'm trying to look up when Neil Turbmasters came out, because 1322 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,640 that is a very, very good game, But says Wipeout XCEL has to 1323 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,439 take the title for me. Wipe Out XL's one. I would definitely consider 1324 01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,439 if you had any love for it, Mike, I don't know if you 1325 01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,840 do. No, I'm not much of a Wipeout guy. I would do 1326 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,840 Neil Turk Masters, which didn't fat come out in nineteen ninety six. Okay, 1327 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,239 put on the short list. I don't know. I believe given Neil 1328 01:25:27,279 --> 01:25:30,279 Turkmasters enough love, I don't think. Yeah, we can always just remove 1329 01:25:30,359 --> 01:25:33,520 it. Klink says, sure, you could pick supermar sixty four. That's 1330 01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,399 the boring answer, but what about the wild card slot, the game that 1331 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:41,039 has the best and most quotable moments. That's right, This lead list list 1332 01:25:41,239 --> 01:25:45,880 needs Duke Nucombe three D. Then say we need to put a d sorry 1333 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,279 ahead and actually put SIP two on on you cowards, yeah, or SIP 1334 01:25:48,319 --> 01:25:51,640 two fans on was but thing Yeah, dude dum three D came out and 1335 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:56,319 uh man, we also have quick though. Sure it's better, but dude 1336 01:25:56,359 --> 01:25:59,760 dukeham three D had tits. Yeah, and it had you could like hump 1337 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,760 the wall and go where is it? Which was very funny, Big Tony, 1338 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,560 says Mario sixty four. But this is your chance for some neo geo 1339 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:14,079 representation include metal slug uh let's see um two oh yeah, super screaming madd 1340 01:26:14,119 --> 01:26:16,720 says too many Supermarr sixty four answers when the real contender should be mad in 1341 01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:20,479 NFL ninety seven, let's go. I think that is the only Madden I 1342 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:25,800 ever played a considerable amount of Real ninety seven on my PlayStation. Yet that 1343 01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:31,760 would have been like the time when uh NFL fucking from ninety nine studios would 1344 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,439 have been way better day game day. Yes, and game day was much 1345 01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:39,560 better at that time. Um, Johnny Navy, maybe that was nineties eight 1346 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,359 eight when that started happening, Johnny Navy, says Marrio sixty four. It's 1347 01:26:42,399 --> 01:26:44,840 a bad game. The camera makes it unplayable, but you know what, 1348 01:26:45,119 --> 01:26:48,239 what game didn't have a bad camera? Mario RPG. Oh my god, 1349 01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,560 these kids people with the camera, they just you know, just ye, 1350 01:26:53,079 --> 01:26:54,960 you'll be fine, en, yes, Dad. Wait, so I'm gonna 1351 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,520 start telling you that in Batman Dark Tomorrow too. Just yeah, just to 1352 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,199 the camera which you can't interact with, Okay, Jimmy Nintendo. My actual 1353 01:27:01,199 --> 01:27:04,680 answer is Mario sixty four, but shout out to Quake. Shoji Kodo says, 1354 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,760 I'd like to make an argument for us in Evil. The cultural significance 1355 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,399 is huge for the survival horror genre. It became the best selling PlayStation game 1356 01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,520 back at that time, and it spawned a massively successful new refranchise in IP. 1357 01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,399 Isaac Clark says, correct answers Marty sixty four. My personal answer actually 1358 01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:25,000 just Mario sixty four. JD. Camp wants to go with checks Quest. 1359 01:27:26,399 --> 01:27:29,760 Oh do you ever play checks Quest? No? No, I don't you 1360 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,199 know. It's just a it's a Doom clone with checks up. It's it's 1361 01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:33,239 funny that it's as good as it is, and I get it. Yeah, 1362 01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,960 it's fun wow. Johns here, Yeah, let's see Marci's for us 1363 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:41,760 the best nineteen eighty. This is from mister miss Fio, because it was 1364 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,600 the inspirational and technologically down the foundation for games after including three D Mario games 1365 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,039 as it continued through generations. The close second is Residing Evil. Here's other 1366 01:27:48,079 --> 01:27:50,680 games I think should have a notable mention, but no way the best of 1367 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:55,640 the best, unless you want to consider Alpine Racer two, Batman Forever, 1368 01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:59,199 the arcade game, blood Omen, Legacy of Kane, clock Tower, Crash 1369 01:27:59,279 --> 01:28:02,840 Vandicoot. We talked about crash Bandicoot. We did talk about interesting didn't we 1370 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,119 talk about crash Bandicoot. I don't think it has come up yet. We 1371 01:28:06,239 --> 01:28:10,199 talked about it earlier in the Metacritic Game Depth. Is that what you're thinking 1372 01:28:10,199 --> 01:28:14,520 about? Yeah, but I've definitely been looking at it during this because I 1373 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,399 have my list of games from nineteen ninety six, and for some reason, 1374 01:28:17,399 --> 01:28:19,640 I'm like, we must have talked about this because and then just dismissed it. 1375 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,560 But I guess maybe not. I mean, you know, you're not 1376 01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,439 a Christian. I like crash Bandicoot. I still think the first Crash Bandicoot 1377 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,800 is a lot of fun. I don't know if it's gonna make a top 1378 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,600 five list, but it definitely needs to be considered. Okay, yeah, 1379 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,279 that's what he'll put it on the list. That's what I needed to hear. 1380 01:28:35,399 --> 01:28:40,600 Okay, I like it, Actual Bandicoot, It's fun to say good 1381 01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:44,760 name Dead or ALIGNE Diehard, Arcade, Dute, Nukeam three, d Earth 1382 01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,319 Siege two, Daggerfall, Enemy zero, Harvest, Moon Killer, Instinct to 1383 01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:54,119 Kirby, Superstar, MEC Warrior two, Mercenaries, Metal Slug and Neoturf Masters, 1384 01:28:54,199 --> 01:28:57,880 Pancer Dragoon twos. Why shout out to Patro Dragoon Two's why I know 1385 01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,960 I couldn't get Pancro Dragoon one on there last time. Y is just as 1386 01:29:00,079 --> 01:29:02,640 good. I don't think it's going to happen. But a fantastic game. 1387 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,600 But Rapper the Rapper Pilot Wing sixty four, Power Slave Quake, Power Slave 1388 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,720 rules play is great. They play that. That is the best. U 1389 01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:15,359 like Dive Studios, Remaster play their Powerslave that. They came out with Rage, 1390 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,479 Racer, Soul Edge, Star Wars, Shadows of the Empire, Street 1391 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:23,199 Fighter Alpha two, Super Mario RPG, Super Puzzle Fighter two, Turbo Syndicate 1392 01:29:23,279 --> 01:29:27,520 Wars, Twisted Metal to Warcraft two, Beyond the Dark, Portal Wave Race 1393 01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:31,600 sixty four, Wild Arms and X Men Versus Street Fighter. Okay, there's 1394 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,640 a couple big ones in here, and I'm actually surprised as the first time 1395 01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:41,520 anybody's brought up Twisted Metal Too, which did infect come out in nineteen ninety 1396 01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:43,600 six. I played a lot of I played a lot of that game and 1397 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,479 had a good time at the time, and it's not one that has stuck 1398 01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,600 with me. Yeah, maybe if Dan record was here, we'd have to 1399 01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:51,119 like as like one of the best games of all time. It's definitely the 1400 01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:55,760 best, Wow, one of the best Twisted Metals. But yeah, there's 1401 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,760 there's something about it that's age, not like a little bit gameplay, but 1402 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,800 just kind of that tone and everything. I like just se Metal two a 1403 01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,640 lot. Still, I do think of it from this general like that is 1404 01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:08,199 definitely one of the most nineteen ninety six games I think about. I don't 1405 01:30:08,199 --> 01:30:11,560 know if we have to include it on the list. Gosh's Warcraft two really 1406 01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,520 this year, feel free to look it up. I'm gonna keep going Hamlet 1407 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,000 of Texas as Apple's the most successful company in the history of business, and 1408 01:30:17,199 --> 01:30:20,359 I think he wrote this here when he was trying to write in checks, 1409 01:30:20,359 --> 01:30:24,399 I saw him also right lists in chat and I want to say second most 1410 01:30:24,399 --> 01:30:28,520 successful after Saudi Aramco, which you know, if it was a pub, 1411 01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,439 that's company would be Severnal Trallion dollars. That's right. Warcraft two was nineteen 1412 01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,399 ninety five, but Beyond the Dark Portal was an expansion peck, so we 1413 01:30:34,399 --> 01:30:36,680 don't have to worry about that. That's right. We talked about it last 1414 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:41,479 time. Fud Sack hays shadow the Imp and then stops and says Maro sixty 1415 01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:45,760 four matt raremuck. He says Mark sixty four six to quake wipe out excel 1416 01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:51,279 in command of conquer red alert. Let's see there's more people saying red and 1417 01:30:51,359 --> 01:30:57,199 blue. That's a Nintendo switch boomer h. Yeah. Do we specify us 1418 01:30:57,279 --> 01:31:00,119 games this time? We might have forgotten too, but we probably forgot that 1419 01:31:00,279 --> 01:31:01,199 is that is our rules. So if you guys want to bring that back 1420 01:31:01,239 --> 01:31:03,800 up when we get to the nineteen ninety eight feel free. No, we 1421 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:10,359 specify. Christian wrote that and then the original post everybody Super Puzzle Fighter two 1422 01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,359 Turbot, which I enjoy but I haven't played a ton of. I don't 1423 01:31:13,359 --> 01:31:17,279 know. Are you a fan of that? Uh? Puzzle Fighter Super Puzzle 1424 01:31:17,319 --> 01:31:19,760 Fighter two Turbo. Yeah, I think that. I think those are a 1425 01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,359 little overrated personally. I don't like puzzle Fighter that much. I mean, 1426 01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:27,880 oh, man, okay, yeah, we're gonna do Super too. If 1427 01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,439 anything, no, I'll just I'll just play ploy play like you know, 1428 01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:35,760 like or a real puzzle game like Pokemon Puzzle League, not not Puzzle Fighter 1429 01:31:36,079 --> 01:31:41,560 too. Man. People really people feel strong about puzzle actually anything. They 1430 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,720 definitely, they definitely do. I'm like, I will what I've played of 1431 01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,840 it every time points I guess this is okay. I like the graphics, 1432 01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,279 I like the cheap characters and stuff. I just don't fow me show you 1433 01:31:49,319 --> 01:31:54,239 the Poyo puyo ed evough Mike, come on now, well, I'm sure 1434 01:31:54,279 --> 01:31:59,039 if they put a half naked cat girl and it would also be played it. 1435 01:31:59,199 --> 01:32:00,560 Well, it's funny you say that because put you put your ears on 1436 01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:09,359 a ship, Sasquatching says. Red Alert Service. Kaine says there's a debate 1437 01:32:09,399 --> 01:32:12,319 over whether Diablo is ninety six or ninety seven, but according to bizzards official 1438 01:32:12,359 --> 01:32:15,039 timeline, it came out in I came out to December thirty first, nineteen 1439 01:32:15,119 --> 01:32:17,680 ninety six, and it was game spots Game of the Year for nineteen ninety 1440 01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:23,159 six, so I'm choosing Diablo. M that's interesting. I think I'll probably 1441 01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:26,520 wait till DABO two to give Diablo. It's flowers. I think that's right. 1442 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,119 Brian Rose. Being in control of Mario for the very first time in 1443 01:32:29,119 --> 01:32:30,680 Mario sixty four is an experience. I don't think I can that can ever 1444 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,960 be duplicated. Aside from the weird camera, it holds up extremely well. 1445 01:32:34,319 --> 01:32:36,159 Yeah, the first time I ever played that game. But towards r Us 1446 01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:41,880 it blew my god, damn mine. Turbo Shan wraps us up here and 1447 01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,720 says, I know, I know no Japanese releases, but guess what, 1448 01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,399 Mike, this game never released in the US since, so since I never 1449 01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:53,039 get to talk about it, shout out to the original Secure O Wars. 1450 01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,760 Yeah, I would like to try those games. Sometimes. That's a game 1451 01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,840 like it's a tad to CORPG with some dating sim elements. I believe there's 1452 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:04,199 the fire elmblem with wife. Who's all the perverts out there loved before, 1453 01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:11,640 like twenty years before Fireblem Go play English fan translation. I'm sorry, was 1454 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,439 that really good? It probably messed up by not pushing that more here, 1455 01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,000 or at least doing it now right, Like I know that there was a 1456 01:33:17,039 --> 01:33:19,319 few months back, or maybe just like Moredy a yearback, a lot of 1457 01:33:19,359 --> 01:33:23,479 people in the discord played it and seem to really like it. So yep, 1458 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,439 I might look into this, Okay, Mike. Our list as it 1459 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,000 stands right now for nineteen ninety six Game of the Year is Super Mario sixty 1460 01:33:30,039 --> 01:33:33,319 four, Waverray sixty four, Resident Evil, Super Mario RPG, Quake, 1461 01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:41,640 Metal Slug, Kirby Superstar, Neoturf Masters, and Crash Bandicoot. I have 1462 01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,159 a couple of these that I think certainly need to be on the top five, 1463 01:33:45,239 --> 01:33:49,239 but I'm hoping to hearing like what you're feeling. Shout out to Fire's 1464 01:33:49,279 --> 01:33:58,880 Mega Mixed by the way, um, I am once again feeling like the 1465 01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:00,279 top five is like the five games we have on the top of this list 1466 01:34:00,319 --> 01:34:03,760 are probably the five games to be honest, mar sixty four, waver sixty 1467 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:09,199 four, Resideval mapeteen, Quake, like I would probably move Wave Race for 1468 01:34:09,399 --> 01:34:12,680 like something else, Like I like Kirby Superstar a lot. I don't know 1469 01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,680 if I could really justify being a top five. I don't want to, 1470 01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,159 like do a whole thing where like you have your favorite in Waivery sixty four, 1471 01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:21,520 I have mine and Kirby Superstar because you could definitely make an argument about 1472 01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:25,760 Waive Ray sixty four being important and the way you can't really make that argument 1473 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:30,439 for Kirby Superstar, so I would lose there. I still like Crash Bandicoot. 1474 01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,039 Oh, you know, we haven't really talked about much when people did 1475 01:34:33,119 --> 01:34:38,439 bring up a red alert and we kind of already snubbed Commanding Conquer one. 1476 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:43,159 Yeah, bad news for you, can I think bad news is that this 1477 01:34:43,319 --> 01:34:46,479 list is much more stacked than nineteen ninety five was it is. Yeah, 1478 01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:53,920 I don't know. I think I'm with you. I think that if we 1479 01:34:54,079 --> 01:34:56,880 want to move Wave Race sixty four down, I'm fine with that. The 1480 01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:00,439 one I would be most willing to move up would be super Mar RPG. 1481 01:35:00,359 --> 01:35:02,960 Well we're talking about Super Mar sixty four's lack a number one, right, 1482 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,880 I mean that's not the number one, just no way. Yeah, I 1483 01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:10,520 mean, look, I think RESI and Evil should be number two personally. 1484 01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:15,239 I mean I can I can see that. Um, just like, I 1485 01:35:15,319 --> 01:35:16,239 mean, this is not an excuse because like, what does that have to 1486 01:35:16,279 --> 01:35:18,680 do with things, but like Resi Evil just gets better and better. I 1487 01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:21,479 mean that first one's very very good, but it's get very very good. 1488 01:35:23,039 --> 01:35:26,159 It doesn't get better and better, get better, but obviously better, like 1489 01:35:27,239 --> 01:35:30,279 even better. Um two is it better? But it's it also comes out 1490 01:35:30,319 --> 01:35:32,800 in in nineteen ninety eight, which is a very rough year. I don't 1491 01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,800 know it's better, and yet it may not make the list. I don't 1492 01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:40,119 know. Here's what I'm thinking. I think Resi Evil can be number two, 1493 01:35:41,399 --> 01:35:45,279 uh, and then I think Super Mario pro Duce number three. I 1494 01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:50,079 think Wave Race and then Quake. Yeah, I don't know we can put 1495 01:35:50,199 --> 01:35:56,079 Wave Race above Quake. I mean, look, it's getting on the list, 1496 01:35:56,119 --> 01:35:58,439 You're getting your game on the list, but it's still come on. 1497 01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,720 I mean, I personally think Wave Race is a more fun game to play 1498 01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,960 than Quake, and it's important and it's got I mean, listen, Quake 1499 01:36:04,079 --> 01:36:08,479 is very important. I know that very important. Yeah, and it's also 1500 01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:11,920 very fun. I would rather play Quake wave Race. That's not I love 1501 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,640 way Race a lot. I definitely get it. Uh, But I'm not 1502 01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,479 saying way Race is lucky to be here, but it's definitely not lucky. 1503 01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,399 That's insane. You're just it's not looking to be here. I know you're 1504 01:36:21,399 --> 01:36:27,279 being dismissive. It's that's not to be dismissive. But I'll tell you what 1505 01:36:27,319 --> 01:36:29,119 if we threw it to the chat, if we said which, what do 1506 01:36:29,159 --> 01:36:30,840 you think should it be here? Which? What do you think? They 1507 01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,720 would probably probably quake. But that's a good that's a good reason they're not 1508 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,920 doing this list. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, listen, 1509 01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:41,399 I think, um that resid Eval at number two looks just fine to me. 1510 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,159 As long as Wave Race sixty four is at number four, you get 1511 01:36:44,239 --> 01:36:46,039 to have a precious one in here. I don't. I don't get to 1512 01:36:46,079 --> 01:36:49,039 have my Kurby. Yeah, but you're Reside Evil at number two is like, 1513 01:36:49,159 --> 01:36:54,319 I mean, I like supermarp G's like no, like easily number two 1514 01:36:54,359 --> 01:36:58,680 for me without even question. Um, but I'm I'm fine with Race Evil 1515 01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,840 being number two. I can have two Mario's back to back, Absolutely we 1516 01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:04,199 can. They really were the two best games that year. Easily. Um. 1517 01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:12,159 But yeah, I think this, this looks right to me. I 1518 01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,800 would still think I think we should put Way Race under quake. Should we 1519 01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,479 ask the maus what they think about this? Real quick just out of curiosity's 1520 01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,279 sake. Sure, and a few months come in here and start talking about 1521 01:37:21,279 --> 01:37:26,880 some other games. The question is Way Race and Quake mods. Okay, 1522 01:37:27,079 --> 01:37:30,680 real quick, Like, are you actually ordering this like number one to number 1523 01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:34,880 five? Yes? Yes? How's that? Unclear? That fucking numbers? 1524 01:37:35,039 --> 01:37:38,319 Mike? You know that Jeff about that? He said you don't need to 1525 01:37:38,359 --> 01:37:41,439 put the numbers in. Now, Jeff's told you. I told you Jess, 1526 01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,359 like, we don't need the numbers. It's clear. Oh there's some 1527 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:49,600 numbers indication. You guys have like five different segments like this as never clear 1528 01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:53,960 if you order them or not. Anyway, since it is one through five, 1529 01:37:54,319 --> 01:37:56,800 yeah, quite deserves to be above Wave Race. Now, yes, 1530 01:37:57,359 --> 01:38:00,479 you are lucky that Mike is allowing Wave sixty four on this list. I 1531 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,720 mean this, this is um just as much my list as it is Mike's. 1532 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:09,000 Like, can do that? I'm lucky here, he's insane. Listen, 1533 01:38:09,159 --> 01:38:15,760 did you hear the Sonic episode? You are lucky that he is My 1534 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,680 Gain't happy? Ain't nobody happy? This? Yeah? This is my compromising 1535 01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:24,000 This is as much compromise as he will ever do. So I think you 1536 01:38:24,119 --> 01:38:29,680 had to take this. I mean I get it. I just I've played 1537 01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,199 these games. I know that Wave Very sixty four is actually a more impressive 1538 01:38:32,239 --> 01:38:34,359 game, even than Quake. And I know that's going to be insane to 1539 01:38:34,399 --> 01:38:39,720 everybody, but it's true. It actually is true. It's not just the 1540 01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:42,880 three D graphics, which it has and isn't It is just as impressive as 1541 01:38:43,159 --> 01:38:46,479 Quakes. It also has a physics system that is better than anything else at 1542 01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:51,439 the time, and better than anything for several years after that. But fine, 1543 01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:55,880 I'll move it down. We'll move Quake up. Whatever gets on the 1544 01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,279 list. Ja, yeah, it should be. It should be higher. 1545 01:38:58,399 --> 01:39:00,960 It's that good. You would you would put it at number two if you 1546 01:39:01,039 --> 01:39:06,319 could. Uh yeah, probably yes. But if he wats any other game 1547 01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:12,399 other than Quake, I will be totally with you. I'm even Quake qua. 1548 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,840 I know. I play so much Quake when I was a kids. 1549 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,960 So he's like in Greening Red Brain. So I want to read this super 1550 01:39:17,079 --> 01:39:19,720 chat from the age of thirteen. He says, is there a Wave race 1551 01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:26,479 car? Yeah? I mean culturally I get it, Quake is is is 1552 01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,359 massive, but uh yeah, I mean I don't know. You could play 1553 01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:33,399 Wavery sixty four today and the way that moving across that water feels still feels 1554 01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:36,119 better than almost any other game that tries to do that to this day. 1555 01:39:36,399 --> 01:39:41,239 And uh yeah it's a great game. Yeah, I mean right till this 1556 01:39:41,399 --> 01:39:43,680 day, it's that good. But um yeah, fair enough, all right 1557 01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,840 whatever. Uh Supermar sixty four Resival, Supermar RPG Quake, and Wave Race 1558 01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:51,199 sixty four the top five games of the idea that I'm lucky like the rest 1559 01:39:51,239 --> 01:39:56,720 of the games on here, like Putting like a Metal Slug, Kirby Superstar 1560 01:39:56,920 --> 01:40:00,359 New York, Turk Pastor's Crash Bandicoot. It's laughable any of those would replace 1561 01:40:00,399 --> 01:40:09,319 Wave Ray sixty four. It's actually laughable. That's the one you're gonna says, 1562 01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:16,119 Remember when it was like, oh, Mike stategish only the only reason 1563 01:40:16,199 --> 01:40:19,600 ever got any attention is because they did those commercials about well, we're gonna 1564 01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:25,199 have it's not fun to play. Oh you're insane. It's of course it's 1565 01:40:25,239 --> 01:40:28,640 fun, mister jumps, because you have a guess. It's horse shit. 1566 01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,840 It's such like a skill issue to me. It got better. It got 1567 01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,439 better over time. Over time. When they realized that was a problem, 1568 01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:38,640 they did a little bit less of that. Oh Man, Crash Band in 1569 01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:42,560 before Jeff has a rant about this on Twitter and Rebecca Stone just comes in 1570 01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:46,359 with, who what's this? Now? Listen, I get that now that's 1571 01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:50,039 I'm not trying to fun. I guess. Yeah, I'm definitely a boomer, 1572 01:40:50,039 --> 01:40:54,880 but crash bandicoots boomer shit too at this point, So come on and 1573 01:40:55,359 --> 01:41:00,840 the other options plan an event. Yeah, this is what to an evil 1574 01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,760 person. Yeah, this is villain origin. I'm gonna thank you. May 1575 01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:15,199 go now, all right, very good job Christians. Okay, I do 1576 01:41:15,359 --> 01:41:18,359 like this top five though. That was a good year for games. Ninety 1577 01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,960 nine. It's better than ninety five was. And uh I think it's only 1578 01:41:23,039 --> 01:41:27,000 going to get better for a while. Actually, oh yes, definitely very 1579 01:41:27,079 --> 01:41:29,439 good. All right, Jeff, we have a Hall of Fame thing, 1580 01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:31,239 did you say too? Still don't we? Yeah? We do. Do 1581 01:41:31,319 --> 01:41:34,680 we have the results for that? Sean? Actually, because I shock it 1582 01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:38,960 out all we had to need you. I thought I might be able to 1583 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,359 claw my way out just to reveal this. Yeah, thank you. Okay, 1584 01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,000 So for the Game mess Hall of Fame, what we do is occasionally 1585 01:41:45,039 --> 01:41:48,159 have the community come in and vote on a selection of games that me and 1586 01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:51,880 Mike pick. M We started doing themed one. So we're gonna pick from 1587 01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:57,199 certain things this year week. This week we picked Xbox games, uh, 1588 01:41:57,319 --> 01:42:00,000 and what are the games that are up for nomination? And then I'm gonn 1589 01:42:00,119 --> 01:42:04,279 read the list of previously previous winners that got inducted into the Game Mess Hall 1590 01:42:04,279 --> 01:42:08,439 of Fame, and then we'll read the winners. So what did we choose? 1591 01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:15,960 Turboshan? So this week upper nomination is Star Wars and Knights of the 1592 01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:21,840 Old Republic, Halo Combat Evolved the first one obviously, Crimson Skys High Road 1593 01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:28,640 to Revenge, which is the second Crimson Skuys, and Burnout three Takedown which 1594 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,279 is the fourth Burnout. And of course podcast producers could have voted throughout this 1595 01:42:31,359 --> 01:42:35,279 week on which one of those they thought deserve is worthy of being in the 1596 01:42:35,319 --> 01:42:39,159 Game Mess Hall of Fame. Jope, they just they vote on one and 1597 01:42:39,239 --> 01:42:42,319 then the two highest ones have a chance are the ones that will get in. 1598 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,239 They will join the list which is as Fall of Super Mario Brothers, 1599 01:42:46,359 --> 01:42:51,199 Super Metroid Street Fighter two, Super Mario sixty four, Mario Kart eight, 1600 01:42:51,319 --> 01:42:56,600 Deluxe F zero GX, Undertail, Shovel Night, or in the Will of 1601 01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:00,680 the Whisps, Castlevania simply of the Night, Streets of Rage two, Sonic 1602 01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,760 the Hedgehog two, Demon Souls, and Uncharted two. All right, Sean, 1603 01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:10,159 go ahead and tell us who's going to be the newest inductee. Weird 1604 01:43:10,199 --> 01:43:14,920 Wave racism on that list. Yeah, it's weird the best Xbox game. 1605 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:20,159 So the two better than any game on next Box except for next year. 1606 01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:27,760 Republic, Yes, so the two make it in tonight. We'll do second 1607 01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:31,760 place with twenty four percent of the vote. Star Wars Knights of the Old 1608 01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:35,359 Republic. All right, this is condition results. They're going to be shocking. 1609 01:43:38,039 --> 01:43:41,399 Number one. You'll never see it coming with sixty eight percent of the 1610 01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:45,600 vote. Halo Combat evol. Wow, Wow, would respect how much percent 1611 01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:50,640 of the Crimsons guys get? Uh you got exactly one vote? Yeah that 1612 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:55,119 sounds right. You know who that was. I know who that was. 1613 01:43:55,720 --> 01:44:03,399 That was a j I don't think I voted. Take Oh we tried. 1614 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:08,119 We gave you your chance, We gave you your shot. I'm sorry. 1615 01:44:08,199 --> 01:44:13,079 You're lucky. Even up for consider you're lucky. I mean it's better than 1616 01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:17,399 Way of Race, but you're feeling come on, oh boy, Okay, 1617 01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:23,199 So congratulations night see Little Republic and Halo Combat evolved, joining the Game mess 1618 01:44:23,199 --> 01:44:25,760 Hall of Fame. We will do another one of those in the next couple 1619 01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,359 of months. We'll see we slowed it down because we don't want it. 1620 01:44:28,399 --> 01:44:30,119 This list a balloon that fast. But uh yeah, it's I mean, 1621 01:44:30,159 --> 01:44:33,840 it's a good list of games. If you handed a person who never played 1622 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:38,239 video games Super Mario Brothers, Super Metrod Street Ritter two, Super Mario sixty 1623 01:44:38,279 --> 01:44:42,279 four, Mario Kart eight, Deluxe F zero GX, Undertail, Shovel Night, 1624 01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,600 or In the Will of the Whisps Castivating, it simply a night Streets 1625 01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,199 of Rage two Sounded, The Hedgehog, two Demon Souls Uncharted, Two Nightsivilar 1626 01:44:48,239 --> 01:44:51,239 Republic, and Halo Combat Evolved. That person would probably say, leave me 1627 01:44:51,279 --> 01:44:55,079 alone. But then they'd probably be pretty grateful for such a good list of 1628 01:44:55,159 --> 01:44:59,720 games, so Undertelly probably wouldn't get that's just for us. Um okay, 1629 01:45:00,359 --> 01:45:02,119 the freak slav Undertail. Oh yeah, definitely. But you gotta have like 1630 01:45:02,159 --> 01:45:06,079 a I think even a more thorough understanding of games to really appreciate Undertail. 1631 01:45:06,119 --> 01:45:10,640 Fair enough, it's an advanced course. It's exactly it's the yes, ap 1632 01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:15,399 okay, Mike, what have you been playing? Oh? Gosh. Actually, 1633 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:19,399 actually, despite the all the negativity around the last year, days a 1634 01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:24,479 lot of double four sure. Yeah, really it's it's become a very cozy 1635 01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:28,279 game to play while watching other things, so you know, like watching you 1636 01:45:28,399 --> 01:45:32,359 guys do voice built Dump Truck or catching up with your game mess morning because 1637 01:45:32,399 --> 01:45:35,760 I'm sleeping in too much on my staycation. Just's been playing that, just 1638 01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:40,760 been trying to level up my main character and the endgame stuff, running dungeons, 1639 01:45:41,039 --> 01:45:44,399 playing a bit of my brothers. But the season starts tonight, so 1640 01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:47,560 I will be probably making a season character right after the show while we hang 1641 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:51,920 out a bit here as we edit this podcast. But yeah, mostly that 1642 01:45:53,079 --> 01:45:55,359 again, like I was like, I'm gonna play so much from my sixteen 1643 01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,920 and I just have. I don't know why. It's like I have to 1644 01:45:58,079 --> 01:46:00,920 actually put effort into sitting in my living room and playing video games anymore. 1645 01:46:01,039 --> 01:46:05,920 It's just like not the thing I do by default. So it just feels 1646 01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:09,800 weird for me. Yeah, I'm boring you, Jeff. You have to 1647 01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,359 play your ball. I do this no matter what, whether you're boring me 1648 01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:14,399 or not. But yes, you're boring me, of course you are. 1649 01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:19,560 I don't know, I'm like I always think I'll get into Diablos. Okay, 1650 01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:25,720 you're right, that's distracting final stuff, um necessarily my beaten bag. 1651 01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:30,199 You don't have to send my own energy back at me. That's unnecessary. 1652 01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:35,000 Yeah, yeah, before it's like this is the one I'll get into. 1653 01:46:35,119 --> 01:46:39,119 And it's like it's so much game. It really is a hobby and not 1654 01:46:39,319 --> 01:46:43,520 just like a game you can play, because I mean, I suppose you 1655 01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,199 could just play through the story and stuff, but even that seems pretty substantial. 1656 01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:48,640 And then I almost don't see the point nless you're like gonna get into 1657 01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:53,359 all this this stuff and like and do these seasonal characters with your friends and 1658 01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:57,199 stuff. So I don't know. I guess I'm glad that you still seem 1659 01:46:57,239 --> 01:46:59,479 to be so into because I knew you were a big fan of Diablo three, 1660 01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,359 and the one seems to have captured your Yeah, captured your mood once 1661 01:47:02,399 --> 01:47:04,640 again. But I don't know how like, are you gonna you think you're 1662 01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:08,279 gonna be playing this at the end of the year or does that not even 1663 01:47:08,319 --> 01:47:10,439 matter? Like because right now you're having a good time, what don't matter? 1664 01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:12,600 Like that is kind of the weird, Like it is weird how it's 1665 01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,479 like these games if you don't play forever failure Because I remember if Diabo two 1666 01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:19,399 and I love Diablo two, probably played the campaign and like, yeah, 1667 01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:21,520 that's like one of the best games that were played and then stopped. It 1668 01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:25,640 even occurred to me back then that it was something I was supposed to just 1669 01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:30,399 like keep playing forever. Like Diablo three, it made more sense, especially 1670 01:47:30,399 --> 01:47:33,760 because in Diabo three the endgame content was better than the main game. But 1671 01:47:34,399 --> 01:47:38,159 I think if you just play the campaign here and that's like what's getting lost 1672 01:47:38,199 --> 01:47:42,319 a little bit with people freaking about freaking out about like a ten percent like 1673 01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,119 nerve To like Ice Shard, Damon or whatever it is. You know, 1674 01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:47,199 like, yeah, a lot of people are just gonna play this campaign. 1675 01:47:47,279 --> 01:47:49,600 It's been like twenty hours. It takes you to that, and that is 1676 01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:53,760 like a game that's fun, and it was fun. I like the campaign 1677 01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,439 a lot, and I am still enjoying the postgame stuff. I'm not saying 1678 01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:59,159 that they're wrong about the upset about the patch. I think they are right, 1679 01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:00,720 and I think it was a mistake by Blizzard. But again, I 1680 01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:04,399 think I don't want to become hail Infinite where this game I like playing kind 1681 01:48:04,399 --> 01:48:09,840 of gets ruined for me, largely just because like the community revolts against it, 1682 01:48:10,239 --> 01:48:13,359 whether they're justified or not. It just kind of like brings everything down. 1683 01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:15,239 And I mean that is the risk of a live service game, where 1684 01:48:15,279 --> 01:48:18,479 it's like, yeah, the mood is almost as important as the game itself, 1685 01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:23,760 and yeah, oh I have a big one I need to talk about. 1686 01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:29,079 Ye, right, because I got a guided tour from the c of 1687 01:48:29,119 --> 01:48:31,680 Thieves developers. How long was the tour? About three hours? There you 1688 01:48:32,079 --> 01:48:34,760 actually, yes, that was about an hour and a half. Three hour 1689 01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:42,359 tour of the legend of Monkey Island updates that I think is out today or 1690 01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:46,239 tomorrow. I think it would be today for see if Thieves. Everyone I 1691 01:48:46,319 --> 01:48:49,720 think knows I'm a big Monkey Island fan, so I was very excited for 1692 01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:55,159 it, and they kind of put me my coup run through this entire first 1693 01:48:55,239 --> 01:48:58,239 chapter. There's going to be three of them, and it is really cool 1694 01:48:58,399 --> 01:49:01,319 as a Monkey Island fan doing this thing where you like sail in to Melee 1695 01:49:01,399 --> 01:49:06,199 Island and then you can just walk around Melee Island. That first location from 1696 01:49:06,279 --> 01:49:10,199 Secret Moncky Aland shows up in a bunch of other games as an actual like 1697 01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:13,479 three D space. I didn't expect that they hit me like it did. 1698 01:49:14,119 --> 01:49:16,800 It was really cool. What I love too is that they did make it 1699 01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:18,720 a bit of an adventure game, like, oh really, you know, 1700 01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,720 when you're on you're not like when you're you know, especially in this chapter, 1701 01:49:23,079 --> 01:49:27,119 it's like this ones like small combat sequence. You're mostly actually going around 1702 01:49:27,159 --> 01:49:30,520 and like solving puzzles and stuff and like talk to people. So it is 1703 01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:34,239 like a little mini Mukyala experience. And they have all these voice actors returning. 1704 01:49:35,159 --> 01:49:38,800 You know, it's basically the same Castle's return to Monkey Island, so 1705 01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,840 you have some long stays and then you have the new look Chuck voice stuff 1706 01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:45,680 like that. Everyone's doing a really good job. But yeah, it was 1707 01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,319 hitting pretty well. I was very happy with it. So if you like 1708 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,640 Monkey Island, lady, don't be like worried about like, oh, I 1709 01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:55,359 don't know anything about Sea if Thieves. It's I think it's very easy to 1710 01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:58,840 just jump in here, learn how to play see if Thieves with their tutorial 1711 01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:01,920 for a second, and then just immediately jump into this content. It's going 1712 01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:06,560 to feel more like a Monkey ollen game than anything else. We're gonna be 1713 01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:11,600 We're gonna play that tomorrow for UPFA. We are we move that up Mike, 1714 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,840 So I think we're doing it one pm Eastern. All right, I'll 1715 01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:16,680 be there. I've been Yeah, I've installed the bass version of the game 1716 01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:19,079 on my piece. I'll be ready to go. Yeah. But I'm going 1717 01:50:19,119 --> 01:50:23,319 to spoil the puzzles for you guys, because I know how to do them 1718 01:50:23,359 --> 01:50:25,960 all. But so don't worry. But there's even also like this kind of 1719 01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:30,720 fun like like seek out element of you need pieces of eight to buy things, 1720 01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:32,600 and pieces of eight just kind of hiding all over the place. You're 1721 01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:34,640 kind of always like keeping an eye off a piece of eight. And the 1722 01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:38,359 other cool thing I like is it's a three D world. You can find 1723 01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:41,239 certain spots like barrels to sit on, and when you sit on it, 1724 01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:45,560 your perspective is exactly kind of the Relian space in the original game. And 1725 01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:50,000 they'll even have guys do a little narration over it about like what happened there. 1726 01:50:50,079 --> 01:50:53,319 So that was like, oh, that is so cool, that's really 1727 01:50:53,399 --> 01:50:57,039 neat, that's clever, Like that's that feels like the kind of thing that 1728 01:50:57,079 --> 01:50:59,479 can only happen if you have a game like this, where it's like they've 1729 01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:02,479 been working on for so long, and they've done a million updates and they 1730 01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:05,800 know what they can do with their with their engine and with their game, 1731 01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:09,520 and they're like, Okay, we're gonna work in this IP. How can 1732 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,880 we integrate it in a way that feels natural and respect and respectful for the 1733 01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,399 IP the other IP that we're going with. And that's really really cool. 1734 01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:19,079 So I don't know that makes me excited too this. I mean, I'm 1735 01:51:19,199 --> 01:51:21,840 surprised I'm eating so well as a Monkey Island fan in the last couple of 1736 01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:25,880 years, but I'm but I'm definitely here for it. But yeah, and 1737 01:51:26,279 --> 01:51:28,760 you know there's there's two more chapters too. This one kind of is like 1738 01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:30,640 you get to explore the first half of Melee is and I think it opens 1739 01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:34,840 up more in that next chapter. And I think chapter three is Monkey Island 1740 01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:38,359 and those are just sort of the two big places you get to go awesome, 1741 01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:43,439 really cool. Um, have you started over then yet? No? 1742 01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:45,800 And that's another thing I'm gonna do Baby tomorrow. I will. I'll start 1743 01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:49,000 overton for the game Miss Game Club. Yeah, because I basically have ten 1744 01:51:49,079 --> 01:51:51,880 days to do that, won't It'll be fine. It's not like the incredibly 1745 01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:56,000 long game, but I do have to go and play it. I'm sure 1746 01:51:56,039 --> 01:51:59,079 I am going to enjoy it though, So I am looking forward to playing. 1747 01:51:59,159 --> 01:52:00,640 But there's a few things like, man even like, oh, I 1748 01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:04,279 want to play Fampast sixteen. Well. I also did finally get a code 1749 01:52:04,319 --> 01:52:06,439 for Fight Forever, and I actually kind of want to play that. It's 1750 01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:10,520 fun. I still want to try out Exo Prime. We'll kind of see 1751 01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,560 where I stand on it, because it's so interesting to me to kind of 1752 01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:15,600 hear like, you know, your thoughts on it to my people's thought Like 1753 01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:17,079 it's a very like it's all over the place kind of game with people. 1754 01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:20,720 So I want to see where I land on that, and then Pickman Picking 1755 01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:25,560 four tomorrow. So it's crazy. And I'm still playing basically tonight, right 1756 01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:29,159 yeah, yeah, basically tonight, and I'm still playing uh those Final Fantasy 1757 01:52:29,199 --> 01:52:31,720 Pick Story Masters like pretty uh like I'm good ways into five now, just 1758 01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:35,800 really enjoying that, loving playing that again. So there are still just a 1759 01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:43,159 ton of games to play. Man m Yeah, I'm I'm moving towards the 1760 01:52:43,239 --> 01:52:45,399 end of Zelda, although every time I started up, I played some more 1761 01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:47,840 last night and a little bit this morning. And it's uh, I'm like, 1762 01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:49,800 oh, man, I see a blank spot on the map. I'm 1763 01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:54,159 gonna go clear that in so down on the ground, did you take my 1764 01:52:54,199 --> 01:52:57,680 advice to try to like move the main story over or just a little bit? 1765 01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:00,279 That is my intention, But I come like, Okay, IM gonna 1766 01:53:00,279 --> 01:53:01,680 clean up this and this and this, but that is one like the next 1767 01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:04,359 big thing that I go to do. That is like a big important thing. 1768 01:53:04,399 --> 01:53:08,800 Actually, the next thing I'm gonna do is I found all the tears 1769 01:53:09,159 --> 01:53:12,239 and then something else happened, and I'm gonna go do that. There you 1770 01:53:12,319 --> 01:53:15,760 go. So then then I'm gonna go continue and do what you said of 1771 01:53:15,199 --> 01:53:18,840 trying to move the main story forward. But that like those are the they're 1772 01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:20,960 lined up, everything's in place. I just got to go do it. 1773 01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:25,920 Um. And then I just got to pull myself away from like this obsession 1774 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:29,199 with clearing out the the underground map. But I'm pretty close to doing that, 1775 01:53:29,279 --> 01:53:30,520 honestly. I do a couple more, I'll be pretty much ready. 1776 01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,720 Um. So yeah, I don't know. It's it's one of those games 1777 01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:38,640 I want to finish. I really want it because I'm like, oh, 1778 01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,119 I want to move on, but I am still having a really good time 1779 01:53:41,159 --> 01:53:45,279 playing it. Um. And then other than that, I don't It's it's 1780 01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:49,359 been mostly that I really enjoyed Extra Primal what we played of it. I've 1781 01:53:49,359 --> 01:53:53,119 been playing another game for review. I'll try I'll be able to talk about 1782 01:53:53,159 --> 01:53:57,159 that next week. So that's kind of been taking up embargo. Come up, 1783 01:53:57,199 --> 01:54:00,159 we're paying is Runna two up? Okay, it's right, I think 1784 01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,119 you're talking about. Yeah, that's what the game I'm talking about is that. 1785 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:05,560 I guess that probably is. I thought I maybe I thought I saw 1786 01:54:06,079 --> 01:54:10,479 Goes for it. Maybe I'm taking that up. It's either today or yet 1787 01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:13,279 or tomorrow, and I can't remember because it's like we're gonna play it tomorrow 1788 01:54:13,319 --> 01:54:18,079 today. Fantastic. Um, I'm thinking of the live streaming embargo. That's 1789 01:54:18,119 --> 01:54:20,800 what I'm thinking of. Uh, yeah, okay, it's good. I 1790 01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:24,680 think when I played at SGF, they gave me, like, you know, 1791 01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,079 a level of character, and I was writing the thickest shit and at 1792 01:54:27,119 --> 01:54:30,079 that point, it's fantastic. At the start, it's a little bit like, 1793 01:54:30,119 --> 01:54:31,119 Okay, you're gonna have to talk to people and get time, get 1794 01:54:31,159 --> 01:54:34,840 things in place, and that's there's not too much of that is like just 1795 01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:38,199 go to town, talk to this person, Talk to this person, talk 1796 01:54:38,199 --> 01:54:39,840 talk to this person. I kind of wish you would just be like, 1797 01:54:40,039 --> 01:54:42,920 here's everything you need, just here. It is, go, but it's 1798 01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,159 not. You're gonna have to talk to one person after another to like get 1799 01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:47,279 your gear and learn who you need to talk to in town to do this 1800 01:54:47,359 --> 01:54:53,000 stuff. But that's because this is supposed to be like tickets pass from Souls 1801 01:54:53,079 --> 01:54:56,079 like and like, you know, those games are very good about that, 1802 01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:59,239 like the actual from software Souls games of you are just playing the game, 1803 01:54:59,319 --> 01:55:03,000 they're pretty yep, and it's, uh, I think that that is you 1804 01:55:03,079 --> 01:55:06,479 know, uh, it's a little annoying, but it's it's not much of 1805 01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,880 a problem because then once you're playing, it is just it feels good. 1806 01:55:10,039 --> 01:55:13,039 The shooting feels good. Um, the action feels good. The enemy's are 1807 01:55:13,079 --> 01:55:16,720 cool. Graphically, it looks amazing. It is a very good looking game, 1808 01:55:17,279 --> 01:55:23,319 um like technologically and artistic wise. So yeah, I'm very much into 1809 01:55:23,359 --> 01:55:26,680 it. And we're gonna try to do a three player quick look and we'll 1810 01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:30,680 try to get that up before like maybe early next week something like that, 1811 01:55:30,399 --> 01:55:32,880 so we'll see, I mean maybe like later tomorrow actually we'll see what we're 1812 01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,920 gonna record it soon. So yeah, we did have that Double Dragon guide 1813 01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:39,439 and quick look that one up this week. That was that was fun. 1814 01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:44,439 I'm still dragon yep, still super into that. Double Dragon is a ton 1815 01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:46,359 of fun. Uh yeah, I played. He played more Viewfinder as well, 1816 01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:49,560 and that is a good one of those solve them ups, which is 1817 01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:54,279 the term I'm choosing them up. Yes, that's the two that someone that's 1818 01:55:54,319 --> 01:55:56,359 in chat mentioned that because Dan it's like we'd need a term for this, 1819 01:55:56,680 --> 01:55:59,079 and I don't think he liked that. But I really like solve them up, 1820 01:55:59,119 --> 01:56:02,920 so of them so stop. Yes, yes, I'm not gonna I'm 1821 01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:05,840 not gonna say that, but yes I like it. I don't know, 1822 01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:09,640 just sort of stop. I feel like it doesn't get the point across. 1823 01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:13,159 You still like it because I came up with it, That's right, That's 1824 01:56:13,159 --> 01:56:16,279 exactly what it is. I just feel like I'm playing Stop. Is that 1825 01:56:16,319 --> 01:56:19,840 what you're saying? Yeah, like schmops shooting schup. Yeah I get it, 1826 01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:24,880 Yes, I know, But I also I also wouldn't say schmup. 1827 01:56:26,119 --> 01:56:30,319 Well then you're a bad person. I say shoot. Schmump is like what 1828 01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:33,000 Europeans called just a Battle gregga from nineteen ninety six. I did that. 1829 01:56:33,199 --> 01:56:35,680 I think there's no chance to get that one on there. There you go. 1830 01:56:36,239 --> 01:56:41,239 Um yeah, if you find hers also a pretty good It doesn't seem 1831 01:56:41,279 --> 01:56:44,680 like it's all that long. I think that's good. Don't overstay your welcome. 1832 01:56:45,199 --> 01:56:49,800 Um. But you know, the core concept of you can take photographs 1833 01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:53,439 and then you can hold those photographs up in them too the world and then 1834 01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,720 walk into those photographs. That's the core. There's a lot of riffs, 1835 01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:00,199 like a lot more riffs on that general idea than what you're expecting. But 1836 01:57:00,279 --> 01:57:02,880 it also is not like a million more riffs. So you're gonna be playing 1837 01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:05,279 this game for thirty hours. It is going to be like a couple hours. 1838 01:57:05,359 --> 01:57:08,800 And I think that's pretty cool. I heard this. Does this game 1839 01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:15,680 have jokes? It has talking and things that might sound like it's not like 1840 01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:19,039 trying to be like hoo or hell it a wild time here, guys. 1841 01:57:19,399 --> 01:57:23,560 It is much more. Um, that's a good voice. Thanks, It's 1842 01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:28,119 much more just like the people are like having conversations and they're being jovial, 1843 01:57:28,439 --> 01:57:31,560 and but it's like kind of it feels that should be silent, right, 1844 01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:34,840 Yeah, absolutely, I think it would be much better served if it was 1845 01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:39,720 mostly quiet. There's a cat that you talk to. I think maybe if 1846 01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:41,680 that is just you talk to the cat, that would have been fine, 1847 01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:47,600 But I'm not The dialogue does not enhance the feeling of the world. The 1848 01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:51,039 world itself does the job just fine. You know, you get all these 1849 01:57:51,119 --> 01:57:56,800 little sprinkles of oh, you are in a simulation, and outside of the 1850 01:57:57,119 --> 01:58:00,359 simulation, the pod that you're in is your apartment, and that apartment in 1851 01:58:00,439 --> 01:58:03,920 the outside, that apartment is a red world that it's filled with dust and 1852 01:58:04,119 --> 01:58:08,039 death, and you like, what happened here, Let's go back in the 1853 01:58:08,079 --> 01:58:11,159 simulation. Yeah, where it's like it's all green and pretty and you saw 1854 01:58:11,199 --> 01:58:13,920 a tree for the first time in your life and it's like, oh okay. 1855 01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:18,000 So it's like, yeah, I think that it's not ruining it for 1856 01:58:18,119 --> 01:58:21,560 me, but it's it's not adding much to it. But that's like the 1857 01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:25,760 negative thing to say about the game. Really, My bottom line take on 1858 01:58:26,079 --> 01:58:30,600 it is the if you were impressed by seeing the visuals of someone holding the 1859 01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:33,520 picture and walking into it, that is what the game is, and it 1860 01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,800 delivers on that repeatedly. I don't know, I play a little bit more 1861 01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:40,880 of the Capcom Beat Him Up collection. I went played some of those the 1862 01:58:41,039 --> 01:58:45,479 Dungeons and Dragons games they had. I there's so much simpler than I want 1863 01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,159 them to be, but they're still pretty fun. I wish they were a 1864 01:58:47,199 --> 01:58:51,239 little bit more complicated. There's one on there that is more complicated and it 1865 01:58:51,359 --> 01:58:54,640 has one of the weird names, but it's a lot of fun. I 1866 01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:57,840 got to look it up Capcom. But yeah, I know what you mean, 1867 01:58:58,399 --> 01:59:02,279 especially Casino to Reach two kind of change the game there. You're absolutely 1868 01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:09,079 right. I uh is it Battle Circuit? Battle Circuit is program cool. 1869 01:59:09,079 --> 01:59:13,760 That's one where you can play as the girl on a pink ostrich. Okay, 1870 01:59:14,119 --> 01:59:16,319 well, Battle Circuit. Battle Circuit is really fun. I like the 1871 01:59:16,439 --> 01:59:20,760 I like the Armored Warriors a good bit too. I just like the idea 1872 01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:24,079 of, like of a Dungeons and Dragons one. So it's like, oh, 1873 01:59:24,119 --> 01:59:26,720 the King of Dragons and all this stuff. It's like that this seems 1874 01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:28,760 like a good fit. You know. It's it's class based. You can 1875 01:59:29,159 --> 01:59:30,520 level up, and it's like, yeah, all that stuff's there. But 1876 01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:34,000 it's an arcade game. They're not reliant, Like it's not like even Gauntlet 1877 01:59:34,119 --> 01:59:38,039 Legends, where it's like, oh, you could insert your initials and your 1878 01:59:38,159 --> 01:59:42,319 in sixty four memory card and save your character and come back and stuff like 1879 01:59:42,359 --> 01:59:45,000 that. It's like so far away from that. It's much more basic. 1880 01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:47,960 There is an inherent problem with like these beat them ups made for Arcade, 1881 01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:51,479 where it is like you are just supposed to die a lot. Actually, 1882 01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:56,640 like Final Fight, the kind of fight thing there's there's there's that exploit with 1883 01:59:56,840 --> 02:00:00,119 a with a guy, or if you do like two punches the right once 1884 02:00:00,159 --> 02:00:01,239 it left, two punches on the guy, the one the opposite direction, 1885 02:00:01,279 --> 02:00:03,800 you can actually kind of get them in loops and if you get go at 1886 02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:08,920 that you can do kind of fun things that make you last longer than maybe 1887 02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:12,039 it's supposed to. That's fun. Final Fight sure is impressively. Remember that 1888 02:00:12,079 --> 02:00:15,399 game came out of nineteen eighty nine. Yeah, yep, it's it was 1889 02:00:15,479 --> 02:00:17,439 really advanced. And I mean all these games look really good. I think 1890 02:00:17,439 --> 02:00:21,079 the Pixar and all of them is very excellent. But I've been in the 1891 02:00:21,159 --> 02:00:24,479 beat him up mood, so I figure I check that out. Hey, 1892 02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:28,840 maybe you should go and play Riverse Girls one. Yeah, I should. 1893 02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:32,119 It's time. It is time to check out too soon they had to have 1894 02:00:32,239 --> 02:00:35,279 fixed it. I know they fixed it on PC. They hope they fixed 1895 02:00:35,319 --> 02:00:39,680 that console version by now that beings saved. They haven't. I'll make time 1896 02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:42,159 for them, all right, but that doesn't for me, Mike. We 1897 02:00:42,199 --> 02:00:45,039 should wrap the show up after you read the rest of the super chats. 1898 02:00:45,119 --> 02:00:46,800 Oh yeah, it's good. A good point there, Jeff uh Oh, 1899 02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:50,000 hey, thank you a Luminaris. Thank you for becoming a Lincoln member. 1900 02:00:50,079 --> 02:00:55,640 Appreciate that. Burrito says I just accepted a new job that could be great. 1901 02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,119 Please have a margarita and wish me luck. Hey, I wish you 1902 02:00:58,199 --> 02:01:00,600 luck. It's exaculate, Burrito. There's boozing this though, so there you 1903 02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:04,880 go. Shaguero Miamoto says I got the idea of Bowser being throwned by Mario 1904 02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:09,520 after my wife did this to me. It's one of my top kinks. 1905 02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:14,239 I wish cool Chris did this to me. Mario sixty four, Please don't 1906 02:01:14,279 --> 02:01:16,840 you weren't I heard you were cheating on the Ninten Dougs this week. Were 1907 02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:21,520 you appearing on any other big popular Nintendo podcast. I don't know, Mabe. 1908 02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:25,760 We'll see and we'll see what happens next week when the episode comes out. 1909 02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:30,960 Yeah, maybe it was a secret. I'll be on the Kitten christ 1910 02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:32,840 the podcast next week, so yeah you want to, we'll talk about that. 1911 02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:36,439 They were very kind and then uh and then I told him about you 1912 02:01:36,760 --> 02:01:43,359 breaking that in Bargo and we laughed and laughed. Ain't it was Actually it 1913 02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:45,960 was mostly just they're being like, oh yeah I was involve in that Bargo. 1914 02:01:45,119 --> 02:01:48,119 They were very confusing, like well, basically they apologize to you, 1915 02:01:48,239 --> 02:01:51,479 Mike, so very incredible. Yep, I want my apology in person, 1916 02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:56,159 especially now that that's the now that the apologize for putting you on the show 1917 02:01:56,199 --> 02:01:58,640 and not me. So I'm like, I'm so bummed because like I saw 1918 02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:00,119 them at SGUF and they're like that's what Kitt reached out. He's like, 1919 02:02:00,119 --> 02:02:02,159 I saw you that s but we're so busy. I think. I'm like, 1920 02:02:02,199 --> 02:02:04,199 yeah, I wish I would have came said high And they're like, 1921 02:02:04,439 --> 02:02:06,560 we would have loved to be on the dram Bomb Couch. I bas like, 1922 02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:10,760 fuck, I would have loved to happen on the God really regretting having 1923 02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:13,640 you on. Sorry next time for sure. Oh he did. Then at 1924 02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:16,880 ten Dogs, Kidd and Christa like like power like Couch that'd be great. 1925 02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:20,520 I'd be fantastic. I would love that. Yeah, let's see her now. 1926 02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:26,800 El Grug says, Mike is having the angriest staycation. Sorry, everybody 1927 02:02:27,119 --> 02:02:31,399 stirring staycation Angry three D. It's like drive Angry three D that Mike Manati 1928 02:02:32,119 --> 02:02:36,119 conno what says doing our budget? My wife asked about the YouTube chat Costs 1929 02:02:36,399 --> 02:02:41,079 joked that was for those bizarre NBC videos. The truth was, of course, 1930 02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:46,079 more embarrassing. Wow, Coke zero is so good. Num yeah yum 1931 02:02:47,239 --> 02:02:53,920 Ganga Darrachi says, more like trash Bandicoot. Wow, that sounds pretty fair 1932 02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:56,640 to me. You all better play crash Bandicoot for what it shows up on 1933 02:02:56,760 --> 02:03:00,880 game paths inevitably, crash Brandocoup for is pretty good, good game. That 1934 02:03:01,039 --> 02:03:04,640 is it for the super chats. Not a lot of like running towards the 1935 02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:08,680 camera, Crash Bandicoo for not a lot of it. I used to shut 1936 02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:18,399 the hell up talk about cheese pizza for babies, I said for I just 1937 02:03:18,479 --> 02:03:21,960 said, it's a kid's food, and I love I love food for kids. 1938 02:03:23,159 --> 02:03:28,399 That's like it's like hog dogs bigger kids fits cheese. I mean, 1939 02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:31,920 like if you got like a Plaine cheeseburger. I would say that that feels 1940 02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:34,039 like a kid's food, but I'm not gonna be like, oh, cheeseburger. 1941 02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:39,079 Um, yeah, you gave me a burger with just a cheese on 1942 02:03:39,159 --> 02:03:41,720 it, I'll eat it, but I man, I I much prefer it 1943 02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:44,079 with other stuff on it because of the contrast, just like a pizza. 1944 02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:48,319 Um. But yeah, whatever, thanks for listening everybody. Yeah, where 1945 02:03:48,359 --> 02:03:51,600 can people find you on the Actually know what? I lost that pole when 1946 02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:55,560 I asked on on Twitter. It's like forty five to like fifty five. 1947 02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:58,359 It's like in that range, And you know what, that only makes me 1948 02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:00,239 more confident because I'm like, that's right, That's where I am with my 1949 02:04:00,359 --> 02:04:05,279 opinions. The masses can't handle it, but deep down, the cool people, 1950 02:04:05,399 --> 02:04:11,079 the forty five percent, they get me. Thank you, Mike. 1951 02:04:11,119 --> 02:04:14,439 Where can people find you on the internet? Yeah, Twitch and Twitter, 1952 02:04:14,479 --> 02:04:15,479 go to game Go games Beat. I haven't been working this week, but 1953 02:04:15,560 --> 02:04:18,680 they have been. Don't get stuff. I saw Rachel's inherent earlier, so 1954 02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:24,359 yeah, yeah, support everybody games Beat please. I'm Jeff grab on Twitch 1955 02:04:24,399 --> 02:04:29,159 and Twitter and all that stuff. Luski, I'm on the blue Ski Blue 1956 02:04:29,159 --> 02:04:31,800 Sky. Im on the blue scats the one I actually enjoy using, um, 1957 02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:35,479 although I don't really enjoy using any of them anymore. I do Twitter 1958 02:04:36,279 --> 02:04:41,399 because I don't like not just obligation, but but like like a habit, 1959 02:04:41,720 --> 02:04:44,640 Like it's just a what I what I've done? So I keep doing it, 1960 02:04:45,239 --> 02:04:46,119 right, That's where you can make fun of me. People will see 1961 02:04:46,159 --> 02:04:49,159 it so exactly. So I keep doing that, and I'm good. I'm 1962 02:04:49,159 --> 02:04:53,239 gonna keep doing it. There's no threat of me at all ever pulling out 1963 02:04:53,279 --> 02:04:55,920 of this stuff, but using it a little bit less. But whatever you 1964 02:04:56,000 --> 02:04:58,239 want to get a hold of me. In the phrase pulling out today, 1965 02:04:58,600 --> 02:05:01,199 I have I try. I try. Did you notice earlier when I tried 1966 02:05:01,239 --> 02:05:04,880 to like stopping out, it's like hold out of the nosedive? Did you 1967 02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:09,479 see that? I didn't you knew what was happening? Now, yeah, 1968 02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:14,640 you said, you said Antony like three times then said Anthony, you can't 1969 02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:18,319 take that away from me. Pulling Now there's no well, yeah, pulling 1970 02:05:18,359 --> 02:05:20,520 out is just me saying the words pulling out, and it's like, oh 1971 02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:33,680 my god, I can't not do that. Everybody fuck like that. I'm 1972 02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:39,239 that's how you know, that's like a bet makes me an expert on the 1973 02:05:39,319 --> 02:06:03,520 subject. Plait Race sixty. Play Race sixty a real video game. Oh, 1974 02:06:03,640 --> 02:06:11,439 let's freaking go, I'll be back all right, sounds good, Uh, 1975 02:06:12,239 --> 02:06:15,119 Devin, Mike, that wasn't a lone pass. Well we do want 1976 02:06:15,439 --> 02:06:25,439 right now? Is that good? No, you're ruined THEA. I think 1977 02:06:25,479 --> 02:06:28,680 that's good enough. That's good enough. You'll see that. Yeah, you'll 1978 02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:31,920 absolutely see that one. Uh. I'm gonna do you one better. I 1979 02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:38,319 was just gonna mark it on the time. Sure time stump Neo turf Masters. 1980 02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:44,760 This is okay. So if you had a Neo Geo game cartridge, 1981 02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:48,439 yeah, can you plug that into the arcade? Yes, I thought because 1982 02:06:48,439 --> 02:06:51,359 I thought that was like a think about like a Neo Geo board adapter. 1983 02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:56,560 Okay, you need, but it would still basically it's still basically the same 1984 02:06:56,640 --> 02:07:00,920 exact thing though, yeah, the same part. Where's that much just understood? 1985 02:07:00,039 --> 02:07:01,960 Yes? Okay, Yeah, that's how I discourage it, because, 1986 02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:05,800 like, the arcade cartridges were fucking everywhere because you know, they were dirt 1987 02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:11,199 cheap and developing countries and shit, and they didn't want the market of the 1988 02:07:11,239 --> 02:07:15,279 console and get destroyed, so they basically hardware locked it by putting a different 1989 02:07:15,319 --> 02:07:17,439 cartridge. But if you get an adapter, since it's the same hardware, 1990 02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:20,039 you can just pop it in. Okay, all right, very cool, 1991 02:07:21,119 --> 02:07:30,000 fifty six you're not thinking of you know what what? Yeah, I know, 1992 02:07:30,239 --> 02:07:34,239 I know that. I know it's you're gonna how much would it be? 1993 02:07:35,239 --> 02:07:39,479 Okay, it's going I'm like, I'm like thinking, like I should 1994 02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:42,239 just start. I should just like finally build the main machine, is what 1995 02:07:42,319 --> 02:07:45,560 I should do. Oh, that would be dope. That's actually good use 1996 02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:48,960 of my time and money rather than just getting a fucking neo geocab. Um. 1997 02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:54,479 Although Drew cabs are so pretty. I really like the way they look. 1998 02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:59,600 Um, But yeah, I don't know if your local Walmart has any 1999 02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:03,800 of the older Arcade one ups on discount. Sometimes you can get those for 2000 02:08:03,880 --> 02:08:05,880 like one hundred bucks, and that's like a decent way to get yeah, 2001 02:08:07,479 --> 02:08:09,760 an enclosure. You know. I have the Rampage one over here, and 2002 02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:13,920 I don't play it very often, and I go and I modded that. 2003 02:08:13,039 --> 02:08:16,000 I could just mod that. I do look at that sometimes I think I 2004 02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:20,960 should probably do that. Um, people drop in raspberry pies or they've been 2005 02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:24,119 doing that from the very beginning, and it's like I really considered that. 2006 02:08:24,159 --> 02:08:31,079 And I have a rispberry Pie just sitting around soisberry Pie four, which is 2007 02:08:31,119 --> 02:08:35,560 definitely powerful enough. Oh yeah, so I don't know, I think about 2008 02:08:35,560 --> 02:08:39,920 it, but we'll see. I think that's what Andy did for his Andy 2009 02:08:39,039 --> 02:08:43,119 Robinson or really to see. Okay, we're talking about we were talking about 2010 02:08:43,119 --> 02:08:48,000 when we were getting up for SAT for Jeopardy back, and he was telling 2011 02:08:48,039 --> 02:08:50,239 me about how, yeah, he just has like a modded It's a Viewlex 2012 02:08:50,359 --> 02:08:54,119 machine from Japan. They just modded to have like PC internals basically. Okay, 2013 02:08:54,239 --> 02:08:58,640 I should let's thank loom Minaris for joining Lincoln too when we get back. 2014 02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:01,319 Yeah, I real some water, I'm gonna do that, and then 2015 02:09:01,319 --> 02:09:05,800 we get started. Mike, like, you like astro astro Boy, I 2016 02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:11,319 said, astro Butt, Christian astra Butt. I mean my understanding is that 2017 02:09:11,399 --> 02:09:16,239 Mega Man's basically astro boys. I guess I have no problem with astro Boy, 2018 02:09:16,359 --> 02:09:18,640 but I have consumed a very little astro bloy content in my life. 2019 02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:22,800 I mean, if you like Mega Man, you probably like Astra Boy. 2020 02:09:22,159 --> 02:09:26,880 It's on the whimsical side of things too. We're thinking you don't worry. 2021 02:09:28,119 --> 02:09:30,760 Yeah, I mean there was that movie that came out with like Nick Cage's 2022 02:09:30,760 --> 02:09:37,279 Astro Boy's father, like ten years ago. I'm gonna watch that like they're 2023 02:09:37,319 --> 02:09:43,239 making the money. Yeah, they're making that that that Pluto anim about the 2024 02:09:43,439 --> 02:09:48,199 Pluto, the the there's a character, there's a detective and Astro Astra Boy, 2025 02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:52,119 and they're making a show about that detective. It is very beloved. 2026 02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:56,800 So I'm kind of excited about that. Here's this video. But this go 2027 02:09:56,840 --> 02:10:01,600 into every manga rita fill is it the same that went to every like gas 2028 02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:07,600 station and coffee whatever. The chef talks a little about. I don't know, 2029 02:10:07,800 --> 02:10:09,800 I'm gonna count I'm gonna have guests, Jeff gonna have guests. Jeff 2030 02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:15,079 guests, I mean muggeryvels he thinks are in the United States. You can't 2031 02:10:15,159 --> 02:10:18,199 explain with how is it all bad at basketball? How is it call? 2032 02:10:18,279 --> 02:10:24,760 How do you? How do you? How did those generous call dating shotty? 2033 02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:28,199 I never heard about popping shot? What the fuck is that? What's 2034 02:10:28,279 --> 02:10:31,720 up? You suck at basketball? I was just supposed to say, I've 2035 02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:35,520 never heard it called a popping shop either. I am getting a little bit 2036 02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:39,800 better I was. I'm very good at you Listen this isn't gonna surprise you. 2037 02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:43,199 I'm very good at ball handling, very good at dribbling and passing. 2038 02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:46,800 I was always terrible at shooting. I broke my collarbone as a kid, 2039 02:10:46,840 --> 02:10:50,760 and just getting this to like here, it's like always a problem after that. 2040 02:10:52,199 --> 02:10:54,000 I was. I was always the ops. I was a good shot. 2041 02:10:54,039 --> 02:10:56,199 I can move down the court. Yeah, I remember I U. 2042 02:10:56,279 --> 02:10:58,760 I was. We were just playing a pickup game in school and I would 2043 02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:01,960 like I could like dribble around everyone, and like the basketball coach in middle 2044 02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:03,920 schools like, why aren't you on the basketball team? And then he saw 2045 02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:05,960 me shoot and he's like, all right, don't need to talk to him 2046 02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:11,600 anymore. I was like, listen, I yet it was that's why no, 2047 02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:15,600 not to go out for the basketball team. I'm fine, Um, 2048 02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:20,720 all right, it's pretty good at It's fun to have this thing because it's 2049 02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:24,319 like I am like finally figuring out the mechanics though of the shot, and 2050 02:11:24,359 --> 02:11:28,039 they're like, I'm a way more used to be the thing. I just 2051 02:11:28,199 --> 02:11:31,319 like to have a conversation my friends sometimes not for a long break, and 2052 02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:35,279 I think we should get ready for the scene because I see what's gonna happen. 2053 02:11:35,319 --> 02:11:37,600 We're gonna You're gonna talk with Christian for five more minutes about something and 2054 02:11:37,720 --> 02:11:41,439 then be like, oh, I'm not ready for this. Uh because game 2055 02:11:41,479 --> 02:11:46,079 we're playing on the gun the podcast Wish just hanging out. I'm killing you. 2056 02:11:48,079 --> 02:11:54,880 I think Friends Day. Alright, let's see here. I think I 2057 02:11:54,960 --> 02:11:58,199 think. I think it's because I think he's friends Friends Day here because like 2058 02:11:58,479 --> 02:12:03,399 one guy I saw the moon landing and he decided to send letters to the 2059 02:12:03,600 --> 02:12:07,760 entire world and one of the countries. I don't know, he's still weird. 2060 02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:16,399 It's very prettier side of line, but he's ready. Yeah, I 2061 02:12:16,439 --> 02:12:22,039 don't know. What's the Friends Day today. We're almost good. Let me 2062 02:12:22,159 --> 02:12:28,399 just get the game properly framed. They don't get yelled at when stats come 2063 02:12:28,479 --> 02:12:35,680 in at the end of the year. If he's really you should watch Astro 2064 02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:37,760 Boy, Mike. I would love to watch whatever I want to watch. 2065 02:12:39,119 --> 02:12:46,159 And maybe I'm sure. I'm just gonna say it was like, yeah, 2066 02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:52,359 still we need beaten down by work at the end of the day. Yeah, 2067 02:12:52,479 --> 02:12:58,079 that's the energy idea. It's been it's been a weird week. We 2068 02:12:58,159 --> 02:13:00,960 need to think him out to like run aroun on the coroner or something. 2069 02:13:01,159 --> 02:13:03,279 Yeah. Yeah, you're like taking the weird energy, taking the discovery sounds 2070 02:13:03,319 --> 02:13:07,479 so you can get some energy out in those tunnels there. Yeah, a 2071 02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:11,239 weird week. I think I'm gonna bring us back in after a hefty pause. 2072 02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:15,159 Don't worry, I'm not gonna run it. Do another shot. That's 2073 02:13:15,279 --> 02:13:16,960 music. All right, there we go. All right, let just be 2074 02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:20,960 a second, everybody, um let me see here. I'm gonna close this 2075 02:13:20,399 --> 02:13:33,079 hot sound fire Mike's d zare Vie. Oh yeah, that's incredible. That's 2076 02:13:33,119 --> 02:13:35,399 one thing. You know, we didn have multiple things in common, but 2077 02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:39,479 were both sharing intense level. For Rocky, Yeah, that that movie is 2078 02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:45,439 just like it's like two only two fights, and like it's like montages. 2079 02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:48,159 It's all you need montages and then and then a big speech at the end. 2080 02:13:48,279 --> 02:13:52,520 It's it's awesome. Yeah. I love that movie. So I don't 2081 02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:54,079 want to Director's cut. I don't know if I want to. It's fine, 2082 02:13:54,199 --> 02:13:56,560 but you know, Rocky for original, it's the way to do it. 2083 02:13:56,960 --> 02:14:00,199 It's like re edited to be a little bit more serious. I get 2084 02:14:00,279 --> 02:14:07,159 rid of the robot. That's right, right, right, what are you 2085 02:14:07,239 --> 02:14:11,039 doing with that? I clicked on the thing to go to this browser. 2086 02:14:11,119 --> 02:14:13,760 And that's just this podcast is so chaotic. Yeah, I like it. 2087 02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:20,680 Well you like it too. It's messy. Yeah, I get it, 2088 02:14:20,720 --> 02:14:24,479 I get it, I get it, get it. Let's see here. 2089 02:14:24,439 --> 02:14:33,920 That's that's writer right there. Yeah, so fine, Yeah, that's that's 2090 02:14:33,279 --> 02:14:37,520 yeah, that's Mike. Yeah, that's Mike. I have a credit on 2091 02:14:37,640 --> 02:14:43,439 a on this trailer video Moness trailer. That's right, that's right, watching 2092 02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:46,680 watch on the same watch all of them, but especially the Portal two and 2093 02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:48,640 street Fighter six ones that I helped with. For no particular. I had 2094 02:14:48,680 --> 02:14:50,800 to pick a little joke in Portal too. I was proud of that. 2095 02:14:58,439 --> 02:15:03,319 He's funny. You don't know it's funny. You thank you. I agree 2096 02:15:03,319 --> 02:15:07,800 with that. Wow, Okay, it still feels so perverted to hold Antil 2097 02:15:07,840 --> 02:15:13,680 sixty four control like this with like the deep Absolutely, that's that's what we're 2098 02:15:13,760 --> 02:15:18,199 staring at, the Intil sixty four dick in front of me. I hold, 2099 02:15:18,319 --> 02:15:22,239 you're holding pigtails and you're gonna get in there you want to? Okay, 2100 02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:26,880 getting regretsive there now. Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's 2101 02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:31,560 not my fault. This podcast. It's weird. I don't know what's try it's silently