Weird things happened in the backyard. Weird weird, weird. Wow. Hey
yo oh man yo, I was gonna do it differently than we usually do
it, and I just fell right into it. It's a trap, man,
dude, what this is? Inescapable bro trap either way? Hey,
what's up everybody? How are you? I love you? Uh? We're
here with a very exciting guest. It is someone who I've been in love
with for quite some time, longer than I can remember, Longer than I
can remember. Honestly, I don't even know when it happened. It just
kind of started and it's never stopped since. Warren Smith ladies in gentlemen in
the Illustrious, wonderful, beautiful man uh, and also happens to be cousin
of Ryan Blood. So I'm gonna be honest, I don't know what illustrious
means. Dude. Well, it means that you're cool. That's all you
really need to know is that it's a it's a compliment. Later it means
you're you're pretty cool. So Warren is actually pretty active in our discord server
occasionally, and um, why why don't we go into like what's your name
is? Disorder? The botanist, dude, is it the freaking bottom.
I that's not the same thing. That's for us later, but yeah,
that's a different thing entirely. You're you're the botanist. So yeah, so
them, Why, well, um, I'm I like plants, but I'm
really bad at it. Oh what, I'm trying a lot more. That's
bull that's not true. You're honestly, like probably the person that I know
in my life that is goodest at plants. Yeah, I would, Yeah,
I think I could. Uh, I could say I'm goodest at it.
You know, I actually don't know the answer to this, But when
did you I've known you pretty much as long as I've known Ryan. For
for those who don't know, we were all like high school kids. We
it was just everybody was at my house. Look you may disagree, okay,
but I consider us very close. Yeah. Well we're actually kind of
close right now. Yeah exactly. So yeah, yeah, yeah, even
if it's just that, you're pretty accurate there, honestly, But when when
did you get into like like your nature actively well yeah, but like like
actively growing things. So I really don't know. I honestly don't know either,
Like it kind of just happened. Um, I think it was honestly
when Um, I contacted your dad because I heard he'd had a beautiful garden
at the year old house. Oh yeah, that's right he did. Yeah.
So uh yeah, big squad yea zucchini huh the tallest around bro.
Yeah. Oh dude, he really had an ocra stock that was ten feet
tall. Like that's kind of insane. What dad just knew he I mean
he grew up on a farm, you know, like he just he knows
how to work it. Yeah, So yeah, I wanted to learn to
grow and he was obviously really good at it yea. And I wanted to
start with anything, so vegetables was a good foundation. So um we started
with tomatoes and I wanted to learn how to grow in uh at March,
May, April, June, etc. Is that difficult, by the way,
like growing tomatoes, because I feel like that's one thing that if I
was to grow a crop, like I used tomatoes in almost everything, So
it's not necessarily difficult, but it is pretty demanding. I mean, you
have to like upkeep it. You have to like trim back the bottom leaves
so it doesn't get infection and whatnot. That's disease work for me. Yeah.
Well, it is a lot of work. Honestly. You gotta water
it quite frequently. And in the summer um when me and your dad did
it, we had a water like two or three times a day because the
summer was brutal. It was really basic. So did he kind of like
actively teach you how to Yeah, that's so we used his freaking what is
it called that Troy built the tiller? Yeah, the Troy built tiller.
He was super proud of that thing. Rebuilt the engine and everything, if
I'm not mistaken, And we took it out there and he was like,
all right, son, you're doing it not I was like great, So
I started doing it, and like it was. It was crazy because there's
bricks everywhere because they used they used to use that as a dumping site,
I'm pretty sure for old construction, and so I had to dig up bricks
and uh, it was a lot of work, but it was sick.
That's that's so wild that like you just kind of you just saw his garden
and you were basically like, I'm in no matter how much work there is.
Yeah, I wanted to learn it. Why because I don't know just
the idea of just growing something. I don't really know how to put it
into words. But like you asked me when I've been interested in nature,
Well, he asked me when I started it. Yeah, well you asked
me when I started being interested in nature, So that was pretty much like
I did ask the Nature party. I was pretty much always I mean I
wanted to have like a greenhouse terrarium when I was like six years old.
Like Warren was always into like frogs and lizards and and like things like that,
even at a young age, like something about cultivating like like a terrarium
or an acquartinent, and you have aquariums and stuff when you're kid. Yeah,
and this is honestly really stupid. What. I took a trash can
and I filled it with dirt and ants, and I was what, Yeah,
I was thinking in my head, like self sustained ecosystem. So I
put into ants in there and then like hoping that they would make an ant
colony. And I dropped a lizard in there, thinking he was gonna infinitely
eat the ants infinitely. It was the other way around him. They ate
him. No. I was like eight though, so like that's not sacrificing
to the ant. Yeah, the show. We condemn sacrifice. Yeah,
we do, we openly unless it's a brand, unless it's a brand of
it, right, that's true. Unless it's a brand of sac that's fair
like a brand of it. If it's a brand of sacrifice, it's fine.
You sacrificed a lizard to aunts unintentionally, Yeah, you put a lizard
in there, and what like the next day he was no longer a living
lizard. It was it was just I mean he was like meal. Yeah,
you know, I mean he was still there, it's just kind of
ants were on them and his soul was gone. Yeah, he was no
longer living. That was an ex lizard. I was always terrified of frogs
and lizard when I was a kid. But I'll tell you this. I
read Did you ever read a Series of Unfortunate Events? Unfortunately? I mean
I'm kidding. That was the only book I could stomach. Honestly, Yeah,
I hated fiction books, but for some reason I gravitated towards that.
Like a lot. They are kind of really magnetic, like they're really good
if you if you notice, like, have you read them? My mom
read them to me and and then I started reading. It's like audio books
for children. It's like their mom reads it to him. Why do you
think audio books are so popular? Yeah, so so she read them to
you then, Yeah, dude, that's what I'm saying. Like even Alex,
who knows nothing about movies, about movies or popular culture in the slightest,
like even he knows about series of unfortunate events, let that one side.
Yeah, you let it, you let it slide. The reason that
I bring it up is because even though I hated like frogs and lizards and
stuff like that, which, by the way, the reptile room exactly,
yeah, the which is the second one I read, the reptile room,
he had the Yeah. And when they described like his the terrarium in his
house. From that moment, what was the guy's name, I don't know.
Montgomery, Montgomery, dude. You get points. You get points for
that. I don't know if we're keeping score, but you get points.
Well, I mean we have to now, yeah, yeah we do.
Alex started scoreboard one point to Ryan. Yeah, one doll. I was
gonna make that joke. Maybe I shouldn't, but like after I saw that,
I always wanted a terrarium, even though I was afraid of them,
which, by the way, hilariously, I love you, Emily, but
Emily is a frog. I think my mom and dad they bought her a
frog sat you as a wedding. They had it wrapped up in like this,
like your dad terrorizers here. So just for context, Warrens mom is
my mom's little sister. So, like, we grew up very close.
Like, I mean, it was to the point where my mom and dad
would leave the country for a week. I mean they, you know,
back when they owned the business Blitzo Construction. They'd go on trips multiple times
a year and I'd be standing at his house for sometimes weeks on end.
Yeah, I did this pretty sweet, just quick sidebar. I didn't know
it was called Blitzo Construction. Yeah, and Blitzo Realty was the real estate
and business that my mom owned in conjunction with my parents. Weren't for his
parents too, Yeah, and like they yeah, like doing the books and
stuff or what like milling houses. So my dad was on the construction side.
I honestly don't know what my mom didn't either. Honestly, I did
this a long time. All I gotta say is his dad was a good
boss. Really we were good off. Oh you mean you mean Chris Senior.
Yeah, Chris, we're pretty good off. Really yeah. I mean
that just goes to show you know, your dad's character. But sorry,
sorry, I don't know, it's okay. I was just gonna say,
like, we basically grew up together like brothers, like to this day.
I mean all these years, his parents call me their uh fifth son,
I think, yeah, the fifth fifth son. It used to be fourth
but then they adopted. Oh it was knocked down the fifth Oh yeah that's
right, that's right, so and I'm the fifth son all of a sudden.
But anyway, Yeah, so we grew up super close and like I
can't I cannot tell you how many nights we spend each other's house just getting
into dullmass antics, especially when Chris Junior and Grayson were involved. Oh man,
it was always weird. Dude, it's weird. Is it story time?
I'm sorry it is probably no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
just like yo, both both were like maybe not, it's just like kids
being kids, you know, but it was just don't want to put out
there, but crazy. Um yeah, you know it's weird because our families,
all of the kids we're all the same age right, Yeah, it
was almost planned. Well they've had that joke for many years. Yeah,
exactly, like it was literally right, Yeah, it's like literally it's the
same number of kids, exactly. Is the one girl they plan that to
believe it or not. No, you can't plan that. What are you
talking about? There's you know, there's something you can do. You can't
plan. Yeah, so we we've just funny though, because like pretty much
all the it was like the exact same age gap. Oh yeah, and
we all just we meshed. So it was like a glove. It was
like because of that and like a glove making Jim Carrey jokes on. I
was actually gonna I was if I was gonna start the episode, I was
gonna say, so, Warrent, I'm gonna give you a conundrum here,
what's better Sonic Too or Diablo two? Don't stop? Oh no, you
you you were like, Sonic is like my childhood and then Diablo two is
also my childhood. Sonic just came first. You're you're officially in the hot
seat now, yeah, so what's better Sonic Too or Diablo two? Different
categories? Because I signed like it's like that is phenomenal, dude. All
jokes aside. I know we've made a meme on this show about you know
that movie. Oh I'm the Diablo two guy, by the way, Oh
yeah, I know that. Y'all have heard us talk about my cousin cousins
Warren about Diablo. What the Diablo two. That's Warren right there, That's
that's mister Diablo too. For as long as I can remember, fifteen plus
years, dude, we could not bring up a video game. You You
could not name a video game. Got worse, still is worse than Dolo.
I see. This is what this is what happens every time, bro,
that new got a war game came out, brought in twenty eight two
resurrected. Yeah, bro, I remember. I remember being a ten year
old kid being at his house and the early two thousands and him sending me
down and making me play because it was sick. I loved it because we
obviously grew up from the same background, like the Christian Pentecostal and like super
like. He convinced me this is kind of hilarious. I don't know if
oh my god, what am I about to say. I don't know if
you remember this, but like my parents were super strict and yours were,
but like in a kind of different way. I don't know. They were
strict about the belief. Yeah, they didn't police every single thing we said
and did. So you convinced me that we all know what this means,
right yeah, yeah, you think I was not watching. He's holding up
his middle finger, right, yeah, my middle fingers up. Ryan convinced
me that it was perfectly acceptable in the Christian faith to flip off the ground.
In other words, you're flipping off the devil, like you're saying,
yeah, yeah, exactly. And I was true, wow, this is
excellent and less like and more like seven year old terms and no, no,
no, no, I really like seven or eight years. I love
the idea of you being seven and going this is excellent. Yeah. So
I did that in front of my mom. I was like, hey,
mom, look I'm flipping off the devil. And she was like, yeah,
I never do that again. I was like, why, it's not
bad if you're flipping off the devil. It's okay to curse if it's the
devil. Yeah, that's literally what Ryan taught me. Yeah, I just
I just came up with him. Man influence him in such a negative way.
And he's older. Yeah, he's two years older. I honestly have
no idea. It's just like you're just impressionable. I guess. So that
was the word I was gonna use. But yeah I was negative. Bro,
that's like, that's like fighting the darkness. Like yeah, it's like,
yeah, it's like John Constant. Parents just don't understand. It's just
don't understand. It's like John Constantine uses the dark arts to fight the dark
arts. You're super into John Constantine. Yeah, I love that, dude.
Why because he's freaking o excellent right now? Excellent. Yeah, he's
an excellent dude. He's like, I mean, Batman is cool, but
I don't know something about him. I've always been like, you know,
obsessed with like hell and not you know what I'm saying, Like just getting
into this the concept of it's like it's terrifying, Well because we were terrified
of it, Yeah, exact hole. You know that's where we will go
if we you think, do you think that's maybe where it comes from?
He said that on an episode and I got a thing and dude, it
probably is accurate. Really, Yeah, when you all I think it was
in the hell episode y'all made. Y'all made a dowblot to comment. And
when do you listen to every episode? I did when I uh fan?
Yeah, I used to when I was driving for a living, But then
I would listen to every episode when Chris Junior was my boss and now I'm
doing something else entirely and is super difficult, busy man. Yeah, it's
super difficult, but I yeah, I listened to every episode there for a
long time, at least like sixty plus like he was, Yeah, he
was following it and even like texting me for the early episode. You're not
a fake fan at all. Yeah. Any times I've gotten text from Warren
and like zero context, you'll just like say some random thing and I have
no idea what you're talking about, and I'm like what, and you're like,
oh, I just watched the episode. Yeah, my dad does that
to me. Yeah. I would literally be listening to the episode and here's
something I'm like, uh, and then I'll text the group chat and then
yeah, hopefully they know what I'm talking about. I think he might have
more episodes under your belt than any other guests we've brought on. What do
you mean as far as I WATCHPT for like MK, yeah, but yeah,
I mean true, well Jenny, but like it's also like her job.
Yo. So were you ever into Doom? So let me put it
dealing because it's like the hell thing. I actually got convinced by my brother.
He sent me a photo of Grayson. Yeah, shout out Grayson.
Grayson. He's the one who in their family. Who is Chris Junior's age.
Yeah, yeah, and they were there were buddies for a long long
time. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but there was a photo you sent
me of like demons coming through a portal and the Doom. Yeah, the
video game, the new one, I think Doom twenty sixteen. Yeah,
and uh I saw that and I was like, maybe I'll give it a
shot, and then I beat the hell out of Oh you did? Yeah,
pun intended. And then I was so obsessed with it that I went
to Doom Eternal immediately after, and like I did, I was Ryan knows.
It was very hard for me to play video games that were single player
because it always felt like a waste of time. So do you want to
be social and play? Yeah, exactly the same way I say games.
I love him now because I don't have a lot of time to do multiplayer,
So I've been doing a lot of single player lately, just if I
can get into it. I beat Doom. I heard Doom Eternal. Like
obviously there was tons of buzz about Doom twenty sixteen, and I played that
one. It was amazing, it was awesome. Yeah, but I heard
Doom Eternal is like the truth. I've heard nothing but that the simple fact
that it was better in every way. Yeah, I've not heard a single
negative thing about Doom Eternal. Yeah, I just I meant to say this
earlier. I completely forgot. And but like my obsession with Diablo two goes
so far that I literally bought a golf set called Diablo simply based on the
name. Yeah, that's like your newest obsession as golf. Yeah, but
like I had to bring Diablo into it, and that was the only way
to do that. Bringing up a good topics, obviously, I'm assuming with
like the way things are going now, Like you're not living every day in
fear of Hell still currently. Yeah, so like let's talk about that.
Let's dig in a little bit, Like at what point did it click for
you that Hell was just like a fear tactic? You know, because I
mean I vividly remember us as kids being terrified. Hell. I had a
dream when I was a kid that literally Hell opened beneath me when I was
laying on my bed and it just opened up and it was just read beneath
me. And I was always terrified that at any given moment he could just
open the floor beneath you to drop you in it. It was crazy.
I was like six six, Yeah, I was already answering your question.
You were you were? You remember that? Yeah? It's it was traumatizing,
Like how do you not remember that? Yeah? And and and you
know, to make this worse, like, you know, young Christian kids
really are like believing this is real, like it's possible, right, yeah,
it's not just a nightmare like this might happen. Yeah. So I'm
laying in bed like terrified, like yeo, dude, Hell's gonna open beneath
me for some reason. Oh yeah, it was horrible, Doude. I
remember one time when we were teenagers, you had a nightmare about the rapture
happening, but you didn't go Yeah, remember, dude, I had that
dream before too, Like you know what's funny, I have no idea what
age I was. But I was talking in the last episode with Jenny about
how like I was, like, how can you remember dreams that you had
when you were a kid. But now that you mentioned that, I'm gonna
say I was probably in the ballpark of ten to twelve, and I vividly
remember that dream, like I remember I was in my backyard, and I
remember like streaks of light coming from the clouds. It was like an overcast
day, like I vividly remember this, and and like my my whole family,
mom, dad, brothers, sister, and me started floating up towards
the sky like we were going to heaven. I remember looking to my right
and seeing my grandma and grandpa too, because they lived next door, and
they were going up too. And then I started falling back down. No,
yeah, everyone else kept going up. I don't know if you subconsciously
did this or not, but the first time you said you were sending you
did this, yeah, it was I did not. I mean, I'm
gonna have to watch that like this that's some Freudian something. Yeah, well,
that's why you didn't go to the rapture because you weren't flicking off the
devil. You were flicking off God. Yeah, yeah, and then sent
me back down. So that's I don't know, but I do remember that.
That's crazy. Like I thought I didn't remember any dreams from when I
was a kid, but I do remember that one. They're in there.
You just gotta be like reminded of the memory. Yeah, you know,
yeah, I think that's never goes away. Random thought. Apparently your smell
is the most powerful memory trigger. I've heard that. Well, apparently smell
is like the most powerful sense in general. Like it's it's more, it
activates areas of your brain, more areas of your brain than anything. I
can't hear poop, but I guess certainly powerful. That's pretty powerful. Man
point deducted negative. I wound that on a shirt. I can't hear poop.
Wait, yeah, I said that's what he said. I can't hear
poop, but I can certainly smell. I've heard one before. Yeah,
I was gonna say, I mean that's true, but I think I've heard.
I think i've heard. What is more, I'm comfortable, though,
hearing it or smelling it. I don't want to do either, but seeing
it's pretty bad. What I you know what I do want to do.
Since we're talking about dreams, Alex told me, uh, we talk about
your Yeah, he's just talking about I had talking about the Hell dream before.
In between Jenny's episode and this one, Alex was like, dude,
I had a dream story, so I want to hear it. This is
really like peeking in these dreams that stick with you from childhood. So it's
kind of insane. Honestly, I don't remember much yesterday, so it's it's
just weird. So yeah, this isn't from childhood. I'm about to take
this really low. Okay, Okay, this episode has been very high and
this dream is very intense. We don't know, we've been talking about hell
and fecal matter. Like it's not been that hot. But so I love
it. I woke up it. I woke up from this dream probably three
or four in the morning and immediately wrote everything down. I was very gut
Yeah. When I predict your dream, I've told you. The next morning
I woke up. When I have crazy dreams, I call Ryan in the
morning. Really huh. I let him get up because he's he doesn't get
up as early as me. But I'm like, hey, man, let
me tell you about this joke must have been, like what within the past
year this was. I have the date written it was the fourth of this
month, February fourth. Yeah, so all right, I'll just get into
it because it's all like bullet points. But basically, I remember meeting this
very um affluent looking guy, button down sunglasses, like like mogul type if
that makes sense. Like he could have been in a shark tank like one
of my status Yeah, he was one of the sharks. Yeah. Um.
And I was like, like wanted to be that right, And I'm
like looking, I'm like holding reverence to this person. And Ian was there
shout out. Ian is the first shout out my girl on Instagram. So
so we're like and me and Ihan were like doing jobs for this guy,
like he was like giving us errands to run and the next thing I know,
like the it kind of just skips and me and this mogul guy are
in It was like a cross between a doctor's waiting room and the post office
because we were all in here, and I remember I got mail while I
was in there and I opened it. But anyway, we're sitting there and
random parts this guy. I got the sense that this guy's ex wife comes
busting in the door and it's like starts screaming at him. I don't even
know what it was about, like, and then they like left, and
I'm still in this waiting room and uh, let me check my notes,
make sure I'm on track here, and so but I had this sense that
this mogul guy was very spiritual, Like it was all very spiritual. Do
you keep a do you regularly keep a dream journal? No, I just
write down the intense nay. Yeah. And so then I started walking through
this, uh, this area, this waiting room by myself, and I
remember seeing one of my uncles who has passed away, whoa. And I
remember just like looking at him and being like hey, like good to see
you, and he was like good to see you too, and I just
kind of like clossed over it in my dream, but it was like it
was like acknowledging that he was there. And then I found Olivia, my
fiance the first time. YEA said, yeah, congratulations to Alex and Olivia
that you made in heaven. You're derailing my dream? Love you? Why
anyway back to my dream? No, it's awesome, YEA. More important
things to talk about. So she was there and then this is where it
gets very weird. Man, I had this, like it came to me,
and I told her and I was like, yo, like is no,
this is it's like almost like trigger warning. But like I was like,
yo, I have stage four liver cancer and I'm dying. Why That's
what I told her. It came to me, and I told her that,
and so and I told her that I realized I was gonna die.
I remember this. She realized I was gonna die. You don't have cancer.
We started crying together, Oh my god. And so I'm just like
and I remember telling her. I didn't tell her this part, but I
remember just being like, look, it's okay. Just like move on with
your life. Go find somebody like it's gonna be okay, and like fully
coming to grips with it. And then I'm like calming myself down in the
dream and I said, look, it's all right. I'm an infinite light
being. And when I said that, I woke up, and no one
else is interesting about that. When when you like kind of just like went
past he said it was your uncle, you acknowledged him and kept going.
That's like a lot of a lot of mystic texts and stuff like they talk
about reuniting with like the souls of your family and how it's like no big
deal. Like it's like I had that happen all the time, Like just
last night or the night before, I dreamed my grandfather who only passed in
twenty thirteen, So I mean I was like in my twenties. Yeah,
you know, I have recurring dreams where he's just chilling on the couch and
it's like in my dream, I know he's dead, but we're just like
permitted to chill. Yeah, and you don't even it's not even but he
doesn't talk really, He's just sitting there, but like he's there. I
get like he's actually there in my dream. I don't think my uncle talked
to me either, but it was more never talks. The whole dream was
very um like there was not a lot of talking. It was all just
like knowing, like when I when I found out, it's like it was
like a sense of emotion feelings. Yeah, and it was just so emotional
and I like as soon as I woke up, I like rolled over and
she was there and I was like, all right, cool, it's like
a dream. But I just started writing every rolled over, He's like,
will you marry me? This is actually there's no reality in where he would
say it was kind of like aspiration on the op chance he really did have
it, Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, Well I woke up.
I'm like, fuck, do I need to call a doctor? I need
to me And he's like, he's telling me this dream. I said,
you know what, man, you're fine. You know I'm cancer. You're
very stressed. Probably really that's yeah, he downplayed the whole thing, like
just like I don't want you to get in here. Hell no, no,
no, that's an intense dream. Yeah, that's injured, definitely,
isn't I mean, look debatedly, not white as intense as a child getting
sucked into hell, but intense. I don't got to say. I don't
remember many dreams since then, dude, I was actually gonna ask about that.
You know, I don't remember my dreams at all, never, like
you don't have any big standout ones because I'm that way too. Well the
other like, it's really dumb. What's that Dante's peak? That movie with
the volcano Dante's peak, I haven't seen that. It's uh man, anyways,
a volcano or upted and I got burnt alive. That was again,
there's lava in Hell. Yeah, yeah, it's lava. I'm sure that's
yeah. It was lava. Absolutely. We're in a white van and it
just it was. It was crazy because, uh, the lava poured down
the volcano and I was in the truth in the van. I was like,
well, it's either I get burnt alive or I jumped. So I
jumped, and I was like, oh, burn alive. Anyw, this
is suicide. I'm going to Hell. I should have just let in.
Yeah, I should have just got burned alive. It is I could avoid
the eternal. It's Dante's peak. I've never seen that movie. That movie
is excellent, dude, I honestly believe, like on some subconscious level,
like you've always been so fascinated with Diablo too because of your deep childhood fear
of Hell. I honestly think that's exactly what it is. It makes sense.
It makes sense to me always talking, start talking about experiences you've had.
What was it like growing up with an uncle who was having all these
bizarre experiences. I was sheltered from it largely, really, Yeah, so
I only know what they told me in the red room. I spent Yeah,
I spent a lot of night hanging out with Ryan and three or four
o'clock in the morning, playing video games, talking about it and whatnot.
So from my parents' side, I was sheltered from it. They wouldn't let
me know of anything that was going on. I had no idea for the
longest time. So really after it happened, yeah, because you know,
I mean, you know this on my mom's side, it was taboo.
Well, sure, sure, I heard let me back pedal. I heard
from family members that the typical things you hear, like what, oh,
you know, just boogerman and drugs. You know. I didn't want to
have to go in all those d Yeah, I'm not nice things. Yeah,
I didn't want to go into details. Okay, sure yeah. Um
So I heard those things and I was like, it seems pretty samee to
me. I mean, one thing that stuck with me, and it's kind
of crazy, is he said, think of our planet as a grain of
salt in the ocean. There's millions and billions and billions of planets. There's
also billions and billions of particles of salt in the ocean. And he said,
think of our planet as a grain of salt in the ocean. Why
is it that only our plant has life and no other plant and the grains
of salt and the ocean has life. Why is that? Why couldn't it
be? So? Your dad never tried to convince me this stuff is real.
What your dad was is thought provoking statements like that. That was like,
why couldn't that be real? You think he's really wise. So he
never once tried to sit me down and say, believe me, this is
what happened. He just didn't. He just he doesn't really do that to
anybody except for my mom because she sees it and it's like come on,
so you know, but he's not like that, so he yeah. So
it was literally just consider it. And I was like, well, I
certainly am now, like I'm thinking about it. I think you know what
that tells me And and forget the fact that I'm his son, Like I'm
just saying, like first thought that comes to mind, no no bias.
That tells me about a man who is really experiencing something and is so confident
and then it's real. He's like, I don't I don't got to say
here and prove it to you just just think about it. Yeah, you
know that's a good point, because if he had something to hide, or
if he was guilty of a hoax or or or or you know, was
was desperate to fabricate some story, it would be like, I got believe
me, You're gonna believe me, you know, And it's like, so
it's never been like that ever, that's always ever been stuck with me.
That that analogy in that comparison, So, um, I thought it was
super cool. Yeah, yeah, that parted that knowledge. The way that
he says. Yeah, sometimes he'll put a little he'll put a little seed
in your head and then it'll just be like you like he does freaking plans,
dude, exactly, he just cracks it open. You won't stop thinking
about it. It'll roll around in your head until you like unravel it,
you know. Yeah, that's how he raised me, dude. But I
mean, like Jesus, and I say that gratefully, but I mean as
as as a teamage Jesus, he just says some deepast ship, I'm so
great. I wasn't always ready to hear it. Sure, you know,
as a as a wanting to be a normal kid, Dude, you know,
it's so crazy how different we think when we're kids. Oh yeah,
really yeah. Kids just think they know everything, that they're right and nothing,
that they're invincible. Yeah, exactly, you know, like they're yeah,
absolutely cocky, little shit kids. Not not little kids, I mean
like teenagers. I love kids. I'm not saying bad things about of course,
you know what I mean like kids, kids hormonal, cocky, just
think they know better. And I say that because I was one. Exactly
you know what I mean from experience, exactly were that. Yeah, I
did a lot of stupid things. Oh yeah, very like just a dumber
sh like my health was in danger. Like there was one night, remember
when we got like like blankets and sheets and tied them up and was like
repelling from the top floor of your Yes, oh dude, who are they
dune started? Yeah, oh yeah. What we would do is we would
have a guy who was built big enough or two and wrap it around their
ways the way it's like a seventeen year old kid, and we would literally
full sprint and jump out the window like swan dive and then like repel down
like splinter cell rainbow of six vegas too. Kids are stupid, Yeah,
that is I could never. I thought, like, the craziest thing I
probably ever did is like, right when Jackass was first coming out, I
like drove my bike into some bushes. I've never I've never had his hard
score. I've never swanned over the window into a blanket repel. Dude,
you're like special Forces. When we were like sixteen, he wasn't in it
on this, and I wasn't generally in on it because I thought it was
awful. But when Grayson's friends came to the house with my parents, really
thought we loved pudding? What really like you know the pudding? Yeah,
like chocolate pudding. She thought, we really liked pudding. What were you
doing with that pudding? They Grayson would have parties and they would come over
and toss pudding cards, passing bonds. What isn't it? Eventually rocks?
It was eggs. I mean, if it was rocks, I was never
part of that. It was eggs. Rocks would be stupid. And one
time I decided, you know what, I wanted to be one of the
cool guys. I went out there and they hit a cop car no,
and I ran as fast as I could to my room upstairs and had a
game ready to go because I was like, this is a bad idea,
So I had I had an escape plan. I was in a call of
duty too freaking lobby, waiting to go for online. I was prepared,
just yeah, like, look here, my light's been on this whole time.
House kids, you have not noticed. Well he figured out it was
us and parked in the driveway and sat there for like an hour and finally
left. Nothing came of it, but I was like, the one time
I decided to be a stupid kid. One time they made the news.
I remember because um, they were walking around slashing Christmas slashing, blow up
the crazing. They were caught, but it made the local news. It
was like like Christmas decoration slashers or something like that. Grayson didn't participate in
that, but his friends did. And they not even like friends that aren't
friends, you know what I mean. Yea, yea, yeah, yeah,
they are always the worst. Let's shift gears here. Um that one
night you were staying over with me and we were up really late. It
was probably I know, it was some time when we didn't have school.
It was like three am. Yeah, yeah, we were in the living
room. I'm sorry. I complete describe what happened. Yeah, I was
in the I'm sorry, like you were talking, but like this is how
the show goes. I know I didn't mean it. So I was in
the living room. And the reason why we're in the living room is because
your dad installed that furnace that sends the heat to all the woodstove that does
this sends the heat to the whole house. They didn't have. He couldn't
afford heating and air, so he literally and literally would go and cut the
logs. Yeah, like daily day had him bad as the stack was probably
half the size of this room. Is that correct, Like, I don't
want to exaggerate it. No, no, no, no, no,
right the size of this room. Yeah, the woodstofa in the backyard,
the little shed where the chicken coop, Yeah, exactly. They were literally
like man, it doesn't talk about the wood stove in the book, but
there's a whole chapter devoted to how dad becomes obsessed with prepping because he couldn't
even afford to put food on the table. So it got into gardening.
He couldn't afford groceries. I was in the gardening side. Tangent again,
I was in gardening because I liked the idea of vegetables are easy to grow
in comparison to wild flowers, and that was my ultimate goal as attracting like
various native bees and butterflies and whatnot. That's a side tangent. We can
talk about that later if you want. But um, we specifically went to
the living room because I for some reason that stoves nice. It was nostalgic.
Yeah, and there it is, there's your fire, and we would
feel the fire and I was like, right, can we sleep in here
tonight? I love that wood stove? And he was like yeah, man,
absolutely. So he was in on the back wall where the window is,
and I'm right here, completely across from the woodstove on the on the
count exactly and uh me and him grew up sleeping on couches. It would
be comfortable, so like it was no different than that. There sometimes yeah,
yeah, plenty of times. It was awesome. It's nostalgic, dude,
it's super nostalgic. The flames reminded me of my hell dreams. So
staring to the little glass window just like visualizing your destination there. So we're
laying there and it's like three or four o'clock in the morning. I want
to say it was like three o'clock. It was like it was late.
It was super late. It was in the winter time. I couldn't tell
an exact month, but it was cold enough to have a freaking fire going.
Sure. Yea. And this blinding light passes through You ever played a
splinter cell games where you have the search light that kind of like, yeah,
it does this thing and it's just I don't know how to describe it,
man, And it like scanned past, the scans past the window,
filled the room with light. You better filled me telling you when I saw
that at your house? Uh huh, it was in that room. So
yes, I have a for lack of better words. And I've seen that
in the backyard by the way. That's crazy, like with door open,
like I'm looking out the door, blinding light moved through the backyard. That's
freaking weird. Did you both see it? Oh? Yeah, I was
like like I'm on this country the windows like here, like I was laying
under it, and Warren was on you know, like imagine it's just a
wall like that, and the couches are like kind of like a ninety degree
angle from each other. He was on the other one looking at the window,
so the light came over me. And it took Warren many years to
process what I said. That was what happened that night. I was like,
Ryan, what was that? He said, Yeah, I just want
to go back to sleep, and I was like, no, he never,
like we never talked about it that night. He just to go back
to sleep. And I was like, all right, Well, if he's
good with it, and I'm good with it, I guess and I have
a good Yeah, I kind of have, for lack of better words,
like an analytical mind. I'm really good at saying what something isn't sure,
but I'm not good at saying what something is. For example, You're always
like, I hope I'm going enough on the mic. I hope I'm going
to I hope I'm going on good on that. You know, you're you're
always the the isn't. Yeah. Yeah, well that's a lesson for you.
It's because well it's cautious. I call it cautious optimism. Oh yeah,
it's cautious optimism. Like I think maybe I might be good, but
there's the chance I won't be, So don't get all in on the idea.
That I'll be good. That sounds like pessimism. Yeah, it really
sounds like pessimism. I call it cautious optimism. It sounds like look at
it. So yeah, I'm optimistic about my pessimism. Bro sure sure,
so yeah and then yeah I understand it. So I'm good at saying what
things aren't. So I'm going through the motions, like, Okay, that
obviously it wasn't a freaking helicopter because if you knew what point what was side
of the house that was facing was like a thin driveway and then trees completely
like it was not a car. It was not a car had been floating
like Harry Potter and like yeah, pointing in the window. The street is
like literally a hundred yards to the east of that a drone. I don't
know back then, right, So, like you know, it was a
lot of things that it wasn't a plane. If it was, I wouldn't
be here telling the story. Yeah, that would have crashed. Yeah exactly.
So did you hear anything, No, it was nothing, and no
car. If somebody's the other thing is it's cobblestone out there, somebody's walking
with a light or something, or a car or cars were allowed down that
ship. Yeah, every time your dad walked on that if we were in
that room, I heard him sound. Yeah, there was no sound it
was And and not to mention, it wasn't like you know, you could
see car lights go by all day. This is not what we saw.
The light entered and filled the room and swept by like it was scanning.
Like you just said that that was the best way to It was like we
were illuminated in the room for that moment. Yeah, so you know something
from beyond. Yeah. I never was able to put rational thought to whatever
that was. So um. Yeah. And and you saying what you said
about like analyzing being analytical, it's you're you're a logic brain person. Would
you say, I think? So, yeah, you are you you always
have been, like you know, and like I you know, I can
relate to that big time. But like when you see something like that that's
completely inexplicable, it challenges every bit of that logic. You're like, you're
you're going through a list in your mind. Yeah, it's not this,
it's not this, it's not this, it's not this. It takes years
to unpack. Yeah, and it dead It took years for you to really
be like, I just I don't have any conventional explanation as to what that
could be. Honestly, that's that's awe inspiring enough, just that you have
gone through everything that you could think it could possibly be, and it's like,
well, it's definitely this is how the beings work. I decided it
was a blimp. Okay, oh okay, this is how the beings work.
This is why I wanted this. This is why I wanted this story
to be shired so badly, because it's just another testimony to the m of
these beings. What they do is they give you some fantastic display, you
know, and when when you're at the level of like our family and seeing
and then being a daily part of your life, you know, seeing them
in the sky, that's enough. But for someone who's you know, going
to be initiated into understanding what these beings are, like you you were seeing
the light scanned shit, whatever, they give you some sort of display where
you're like, you might not one hundred percent know exactly what it is,
but you're you're, you're you have that thousand yards stare. You're like,
I don't know what that was. I cannot explain yet was that so that
the first like experience you would say, I want to say, yeah,
I don't. I don't. My memory is not great. I've been around
them, like obviously you're years and having conversations with Chris Senior about yeah,
in the red room in particularly other orbs and things like that sense right,
Yeah, I mean I've had some things that, like, you know,
I'd be looking outside of my binoculars and I would see this light that was
doing some crazy non plane stuff and non satellite stuff. I don't know what
a satellite that can stop and turn a second's notice, just outside look just
for whatever reason, looking at the sky with my buyos and saw that,
and I was like, well, that's weird. Were you by yourself?
I was by myself. Yeah, I was just like you really feel those
I saw like three in that night too. So like satellites are either like
grouping together and turning on a dime or or you know, something weird is
going on. Yeah, dude, there was one time we were at your
placing. There was some stuff knocking over in the other room. Remember oh
Man at his place, So stuff was just knocking over, like noise.
I don't remember that. I do remember being in upstairs in my room and
hearing footsteps. Oh so okay, I lie, this is earlier. Um,
I was in my room. You remember my old house set up,
So you've got like the up stairs and it's got the h the hallway,
bathroom, and then there's like anop sc room at the other end of this
year yeah, and a weird l shape hallway that goes into the kitchen and
then the garage on the other side. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that
was downstairs. That's yeah, okay, so yeah upstairs. You're not talking
about the one your mom and I live it now, right, No,
we're talking about your white Horse Court like you never even said, oh yeah,
no, that would make sense. Yeah, nick's never been I don't
care. We're talking about the house there anyway. So like the one we
grew up in, you almost described it to it to you though, like
it's weird, it's similar, it's very similar. My parents loved that house.
They didn't want to sell it. They actually wanted to keep that same
floor planet move it. But it costed hundreds of thousands of dollars to move
the whole house. But anyways, that doesn't matter. Um, at the
old house, it was your staircase that went up and then to the right
did this weird l shape to the bedroom, and then to the left it
was a hallway all right, and you go straight and it opens up into
a living room. So it was a huge bonus room upstairs. Yeah.
Huge, it's not even a second floor. It's so one point five because
it has the angled ceilings. Sounds exactly like the house they live in now,
Like like your room was kind of like that big the upstairs it was
bigger though, yeah, like the bonus three times big. Yeah, it
was much bigger. It was huge. And so at the end was my
bedroom, and I had this corner desk, and then to the left of
that corner desk was the door to go into the living room. And I'm
talking to somebody on AOL it's the Messenger or some shit, and I hear
somebody walking upstairs and my little brother Lee shout out Lee, and I love
you too, Lee. We go golfing a lot. It's sick, Yeah,
got him into it accidentally, I say a lot, but I wish
we can go more. Anyways, So I thought it was him walking down
the hall and I saw like, so the door was open, So you
could see a crack and I saw this shadow move through and I look back.
I looked back to see if he had walked in sting. You know,
you remember that scary stories of telling the Dark book where you see the
footsteps in the ceiling they're pushing through. Remember that old story. Yeah,
I get the concept. Well, I thought I heard there was footsteps,
and I looked at check for the footsteps. There was nothing. I was
like, what, I'm going to bed. This is scary. So I'm
playing my game boy. Yeah there was the nineties. I'm gonna throw the
blanket over my head with my little game boy advanced the little light yeah,
the external light yeah yeah, and then play Pokemon Yellow. So like,
so I closed the door. I was like, I'm going to bed.
Whoever I was talking to on aim and then I went to freaking bed,
dude, like I just like a classic horror movie blanket over your head,
just like, oh I did that quite a bit. Yeah, shadow,
I saw something. It was. It was weird, man, I've seen
it. I've seen like a figure of a shadow across the wall. Like
it was like, it's bad. It's a little crack man. So it's
hard to say a humanoid figure, but like there was a crack and you
know, it walked. It looked like something walked by, and I was
like, oh, what's up Lee. By the way, Lee at this
point would have been like like five, six, seven years old, and
his bedroom was on the complete opposite side of the house downstairs. Yeah,
it was on the same side of the house down stair r r right,
but it was so far away. You had to walk all the way through
the house, all the way around just to get to that room, which
was like directly Bene, which is still Baly was the last person possible to
have just I'm right here right, Yeah, Yeah, that's so plot twist.
It was not Lee. I think it was me. Yeah, Ryan
had walked from whatever for some reason. You always had two twin beds in
that room. Remember how many nights when I'd be like, like, my
parents are Jamaica or some shit, and I'm standing with you for a week.
I'm like during school, elementary school. And there was one night we
got in trouble man, we almost got our asses beat by your dad because
all night we almost we stayed up all night playing Game Boy, we played
we played Pokemon all night and we had to school the next morning, came
up there. You remember this. I remembered it being Sonic Adventure, but
it might have been. It might have been. I remembered it being Sonic
Adventure for the Dreamcast, dude. No, I'm talking first specifically this night
we were we were because you had two twin bedrooms. Yeah yeah, and
we were in there playing our game boys and being like hiding into the covers
room. Oh yeah, yeah, I got I got in trouble for that
a lot, lea a lot. Yeah. Lee used to take upstairs like
the Grants still in Christmas and uh he went upstairs and would just hide and
like they could hear every movie. And that's so that's so like that's such
a dumb because his bedroom is right beside theirs. Yeah, not that Lee's
dumb, but like what kids think they're so smart, you know, you
know, we never got away with it, definitely try. And the funniest
part is his bedroom was directly above their uh their bedrooms. Dude. The
main thing that we got in trouble for ninety nine percent at the time was
just like walking up there. So like imagine like these parents are like laying
in bed and oh yeah, and their hands get You could drop a wallet
and they'd hear it. Dude. It was so sensitive and they would hear
everything. That can't sleep it's light. It'd be like eight o'clock. Yeah,
dude, it was crazy. It got to the point I even walking
down the stairs. It was just yelling up there, settles down. Yeah.
I had this lazy jade chair, dude, and like if you leave,
remember that had the chair. Yeah, I headed the base on because
if you leaned back, it would make a clack noise. Oh dude,
I'm having like traumatic flat. It was in it was in that chair that
I became one of the world's best soul caliber four players. That I was
in the hospital. Yeah, I was staying in your room at your house
for a week while you were dying in the hospital. And what's it pan,
that's right, yeah, Blu literally explode. It literally rupts your in
his body. It was like that scene from a New Hope. Yeah.
Yeah, it's awesome. I mean summer so I didn't have school, Yeah,
so weak, it was what was your man? It was like the
nunchuck guy. Oh yeah, it's like MAXI, Yeah, MAXI. Yeah,
I'm slick with the nunchucks. Yeah, dude, guy, I love
that guy. I used The Apprentice and just like zap people lightning. I
love that one. Weird guy like this. Oh yeah, I was gonna
say I was like the car, like the car. Yeah. Yeah,
he's a weirdo. Man. He's like as a finger blades. Yeah,
and he's got blades on his fingers like Freddy Krueger. He's scary. Are
there, um, Are there any other like significant sightings or anything like that
in that nature, like maybe you've had a dad or otherwise that you can
recall. I don't recall. I know recently you you it was like just
a casual night, you did some you saw some horms with dad. I'm
pretty sure in the last several months, it's possible. Dude. My memory
is horrible. It's also so common, it's okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Like the last thing I remember was I had my Vinos and this was like
last year, and I saw like three join some crazy maneuvers. Dude,
that's that one you were talking about. Yeah, that's that's the most weird
recent one I remember. But I mean, obviously we know I've seen him
with your dad before. Oh dude, yeah, you you at this point,
you can't go over there without seeing them. Yeah, it's every time
cool. You got everything off your chest. We're approaching an hour. Oh
yeah, it really goes crazy. That's that's why I was trying to like
my experience. No, it's good, it's good. We'd like to have
our guests an opportunity to say something to the whole world if they imagine the
whole world's listening. But I already know what yours is going to be.
What do you think you never answered? Which was better Sonic to already I'll
listen. I was going to ignore that, and then you can't and we're
not gonna end this until you well okay, so fine to redeem your point.
Yeah yeah, yeah, to get to that nice base zero okay,
Dad would say bass news. So if I had to choose, I would
simply choose they'alla too. Due to longevity, I would have been really mad
if you didn't. Yeah, I know, because it's been out longer.
But like Sonic Too with Jim Carrey was like she was so good. It
was nostalgic. It was we watched it like so I watched it by myself,
and I was like, this is legendary. And then I begged y'all
to watch it with me, and it turns out that y'all were in town
I think, so y'all watched it with me anyways, and it was freaking
amazing. Yeah, it was awesome. And oh, can you sit right
here, and y'all don't end the recording. Seriously, I'm gonna do something
out of the box. Go for it. Sure, just keep talking about
you're gonna go put on a Sonic costume, tell me more about Sonic whenever.
That's right. I totally forgot that you and I was sitting between you
and Ryan, I think that's right. And I was like, guys,
look they did that you know the way joke? What? Oh yeah yeah.
Jim Carrey was like, and I know the way or something like that.
And ironically, like thoroughly loved that movie. And also and like,
I know, you know, you're not super into mystical stuff and like esoteric
history and all that, but like that movie is strangely dripping with mystical stuff,
Like I mean, I guess kind of Sonic is in general. I
mean, you got chaos emeralds. Yeah, I mean there's literally magic crystals
that they transform and turned into Golden Body from doing But like that movie particularly,
there were quotes, there were there was like symbolism, there's all kinds
of stuff in the movie that was like hyper hyper obviously spiritual. This is
hilarious. Whoa. First of all, Yo, is this literally sonic of
knuckles? Yeah? What this is crazy? Show the camera? Can they
see me right now? I've I've been holding this for a long time.
I got these in Germany. Oh dude, I used to take German.
I know, I took five years. As you read it, it's German.
Okay, it's in German. I bought him in Germany. That's awesome.
For Germany. You're gonna put on bed not I'm Germany. I'm just
saying I got the tongue. I don't know what that means. I forgot.
I'm Charman Sonic pez candy. Yeah, I just oh shit, he's
here for the first time. I had to go that's crazy. I did
want to. Uh, we don't got too. I was gonna just talk
about plants. Please. That'll take too much time. No, it won't.
It would go for we go over a little Uh well, um,
you kind of expand on the whole nature and the plants thing. We kind
of like touched on the vegetables and whatnot. But I ended up getting like
even more obsessed with plants when something happened last year or two years ago,
and uh so, um my aunt allowed me to use her greenhouse and uh
well it's you know, our grandma's greenhouse, but our aunt. Yeah yeah,
all three of our aunts. So yeah, how dare you? I
was talking? So um yeah, I ended up I ended up getting like
super obsessed with it and growing like NC native wild flowers to attract endangered populations
of bees and whatnot, or becoming endangered. They're not endangered yet, but
um yeah, I would plant all sorts of stuff like scarlet bee balm um
uh freaking purple passion flower stuff like that ashion flower. That's what I was
like. Yeah, I sent you some passion flower leaves. We ended up
making it into tea. How was it? It was awesome, dude.
You can also this is actually like kind of taste great. I did one
where I put I ground up some of the leaves and put it into green
tea. Yeah, and it was really good. And I was like,
I wanna know what this tastes like on its own so I had to like
get it down to like a really fine powder, but like you know,
with one of those like little spice blenders. Yeah, yeah, I use
that's cool. And then and then I filtered it through um, cheesecloth.
Dude, that's sick. It was delicious. So passion flower, the leaves
in the in the flowers, you can obviously, like you just said,
turn into a tea and something A lot of people don't know which that's one
of them. But you can also take the leaves, dehydrate them and smoke
them and it'll have a sort of medicinal effect that like helps um alleviate anxiety.
Same with drinking the tea. It helps all alleviate anxiety. I mean,
there's a there's a warning that says potential poison effect, so bear that
in mind. But I mean, but hey, look, I'll poison myself
if it gets rid of my anxiety. Yeah, it's it's super like inefficial.
I mean, like shrooms basically poisons exact so I mean the grain of
salt that but um, you could also take like the fruit called a maypop
and then make jelly out of it and whatnot. So that's super cool.
But I did that was kind of like a cool side effect. But I
usually I did it because it was a host plant for various different caterpillars.
And uh, I grew a lot of NC native wild flowers because like I
like having honey bees around and whatnot, but like I try to folk on
the NC natives. Yeah, but tells the world why why you hate honeybees
and you want them all to die? Well, they're they're technically invasive.
This is always every time I see Warren, he goes, Yo, you
know honey bees are technically invasive. Yea, but it's illegal. Yeah,
yeah, it's I think it's literally a federal crime to kill honeybees, Like
you have to get somebody to relocate them. But when you stay invasive,
what exactly do you mean by that? Um, well, they're not even
native here. Uh, they came from Europe, so it's like the European
honeybee. It's like eight my camera. Wait a minute, what's your favorite
kind of bee? Oh that's a hard question. I love honey Just first
answer to comes to mind solitary sweat bees. Mind probably Boo Ryan like the
boobies. He loved the boothe ide. It took me a second dang it.
Yeah, Um, I like solitary bees like leaf cutters or sweat bees
or whatnot. Because what makes honey bees invasive that it's that they're not they're
not, so it's not necessarily that you have something called an introduced species,
which, um, that's a different thing. But like when you have invasive
species, it means that they outcompete your native species of bees. So they'll
they'll do things like, um, they'll guard a flower head to prevent other
bees from pollinating it or gathering pollen or whatever to make honey. However that
works. I don't freaking know. I'm not a bee specialist, but uh,
but it's like the jets and the sharks what oh, so scrapping on
the on the flower. I mean it's pretty much that they'll literally guard a
flower head to prevent other bees from hitting it. And also I don't understand
it what you mean like going there and taking that pollen, taking that pollen,
boy? And uh. Another thing they do is if they land on
a flower, Um, other bees will know that they landed on the flower
and they won't even go visit it. If a honey bee lands, Yeah,
it's some like pheromone stuff. I don't. There's no honey bees native
to North America, not a single one really. Yeah, it's it's all
overseas like European modes. So everyone that's here now, which I mean there's
tons, they call it. They call them skycows because it's it's dumb.
But I mean they call them skycows because it's like because they with cow sting
you, they die. I want to honestly commission you to make me some
like elderberry mead. Whoa, that'd be kind of sick. But I don't
know how to make mean, look at up, dude, don't you make
your own I'm not. I'm the taker. Yeah, but I'll do it
script, I'll figure it out. I'll have a honeybee farmer to make you
meade honey bee farm. No, because I haven't pervasive, right, I'm
too conscious, Like I'm too conscious of like my surroundings. Like I don't
want to put anything in the yard that's gonna like spread over like English ivy
for example, people playing their yard don't get it. They don't get it
contained, and it'll spread off and like destroy ecosystems and whatnot. So how
I'm plant your kudzuo. It's kind of like a North Carolina thing. Yeah,
you don't by not doing it. Yeah, by not doing absolutely not.
That's from Japan, right, I think it's China. China, it
was Japan. I thought it was, Well, it might be Japan,
but listen, I don't know. I just know it's not from here.
And it spreads like wildfire. Yeah, it's it's crazy. Where in the
South, it's like specifically like North and South Carolina and Georgia. On the
coast. Yeah. Yeah, on the coast, there's like there's this stuff
called kudzu, and it's this crazy weed. It's invasive, very dream like.
Yeah, it strangles out everything. Miles and miles. They call them
desert. They call him ivy desert. Yeah, it's because they're so cool
too. It looks freaking cold, dude. It's I love driving down like
miles of highway and just seeing kadzuo. It's called an ivy desert because it
chokes out everything beneath it and all that's left is the desert. So if
you pulled up the desert, all you see is like sand and stuff.
Nothing grows there because it chokes everything out. It's like earthly evil. If
any of you have watched or played The Last of Us and see all the
stuff growing on, covering all the buildings, all the that's what cuts.
It looks like. Yeah, it's like it cuts. You can develop a
building in like crazy, like a matter of a few days. It's extremely
it's kind of like a crisis, like it's absolutely invasive. Not technically,
it's one hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah, honey bees are only technically because
gotch they out compete and save the honey bees. Kill the kudzu, um
neither all right, kill the cud of me mixing, kill the kudzu and
the don't kill him. It's a charge, just like give him a stern
talking to Yeah, yeah, you just you just you roll up on him
and you give him a sun talking to. This this is a like spiritual
podcast, and we talk about some out there stuff. But I think the
most hottest take we've ever had is killed honey bees. Don't kill them.
We condemn sacrifice. Justin you're saying, you're saying, don't kill the honey
bees. You're saying, call ice on the honeybees. Not only that,
but step into the hot, step into the hive and let them all sting
you so that they kill themselves because then you're not responsible, right, but
then you throw up from on the venom. Yeah, that that definitely happened
in your honeybee. Man. They're pretty they're pretty cool, but I don't
want them in my yard. Put up a big fence. Oh dude,
I don't know if you discussed this because I walked out of the room.
I think you were talking about sonic but we were, so you never really
mentioned the whole reason you were cultivating all the caterpillars. So your your yard
is now an officially registered Oh yeah, I so it's it's kind of like
it's a registered on the Butterfly Highway in North Carolina Wildlife butterflies. Yeah,
he has a sign. Dude, he has an actual North Carolina officiated sign.
And what kind of butterflies? Um, well, that's a loaded question.
I've got. Well, I can't believe you'd asked me that. Yeah,
that's a loaded question. Yeah, I've got monarch, have monarchs?
Yeah? You have milkweed back there? Yeah, absolutely you. I've got
swamp milkweed, butterfly milkweed. Um, I've got a non native tropical milkweed.
Um. I was trying to get something called red ringed milkweed, which
is freaking sick but super hard to locate. Um. Is milkweed just a
thing with monarchs or oh, common milkweed I don't have, but so it
is monarchs primarily host on milkweed. I think it's the only thing they host
on. There's some you know, if if they're starving, they might you
know, get something else, but it's unlikely. Yeah. But um,
you I've got like three different varieties of milkweed. Um. No other butterflies
are attracted to the milk weed in that way. Well, there's something called
the milkweed. I think it's the two sock milkweed moth caterpillar. Is that
two pop milk? Yeah? They they host on it too. There's I
think there's various different insects that host on milkweeds. But as far as what's
in your backyard, the only um is a butterfly and insects. Yeah,
I think so, okay, the only insect that interacts with the milkweed or
the monarchs I have, Well, I have I have milkweed, beetles.
Um. I have all sorts of different hosts, like things hosting on my
milkweed. You have like a managerie. I don't know what that means.
Just like a bunch of freaking animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
got a zoo back there. Let's I gotta insect zoo. Yeah. And
I have various different caterpillars hosting on the passion flower. I do it because
like nature. I don't know, I man like. I guess it is
spiritual in a way. Hey, what's your what's your instagram? Plug that?
Yeah? He has an Instagram devoted to like taking photos about the wild
life in the yard. Yeah, I think, I honestly don't remember.
I think it's uh, I can look it up for you, NC NC
native NC native flower or something. It's NC native wildflower. Oh yeah you
did recently. I was wondering if you knew that was me. Um.
I think it's NC native flower native flower. That's what it is, NC
native flower all lowercase, all one word. Yeah and love. He has
really really cool, pretty much backyard botanist. I pretty much don't know what
I'm doing. I'm just like bugs and plants, and it's like hyper vivid
photos of all of them he has cultivated in his yard and his beautiful show
look, here's the butterfly Highway sign sent to him by the state. Yeah,
it's pretty. I think it's sweet. It's incredible. Yeah. You
know what else? Uh, you're you're really good at the photography aspect too.
Yeah. I try to be wed. I got a mic by the
state NC Wildlife Resource Commission. I uh or that's wildlife. Oh hold on,
very first picture on your page is none other than by yourself. That's
are you a change man? That's a sweat beat? That okay, yeah,
that's not a honeybee's on site. That's yeah, that's one I bring
out. I bring out my little salt gun and get you got one of
those. But now they know wine doesn't kill bugs. I don't even kill
honey bees. I just give him a stern talking to you. Yeah,
he doesn't ki behave behave yeah yeah, so uh yeah that was a NC
native bee on an NC native flower. Thank you you got me lance Lee's
coreopsis. Oh yeah, I did say that, I can confirm. Yeah,
So it's I don't know, it's like kind of like my way of
connection to nature. I like the idea of like cultivating life, and that's
kind of why I do it. So I mean, I think it's freaking
cool. It is. It's so awesome. Like I'm not kidding when I
say every time you send us it like pictures of your garden and it's coming,
it makes me so happy. I actually have an NC native jasmine and
I took a photo of in my phone, right, I sent a group
chat because it's not time and I've got bloom. Yeah, yeah, it's
the blooming now, but it's not in full bloom yet. It's a it's
a plant. I think it's called a Carolina jasmine. I don't know if
that's a cultivar or not, but it's supposed to be Inncy native um as
the name suggests. You remember Dennis the Menace when he had that rare flower
that blooms like one night a year. Oh, is it like the like
a party over it? Is it the red? I don't know. There's
there's one flower that basically bloom. It's it blooms two nights a year.
It's Japanese native. It's called the hell flowers. I've seen that. Yeah,
of course it's a hell flower. Of course, that's why it was
one of my favorite flowers. It's uh, it's it's common name is hell
flower or a red spider lily. Yeah, remember that he had that party
over the floor, like the exotic flower blooming and then Dennis being a little
menace. He is like totally ruined the party, like fucked up the flower.
It's a good movie. I actually don't remember it. I don't remember.
I love I remember that for some reason, that movie. I've seen
it a thousand times, but I don't remember which we did Apple. That's
right, I got that from You're just like quoting the whole movie. Now
this is now the Dennis the Menace. Yeah, let's do an episode on
Dennis the Menace. I love Dennis. We're gonna do a SpongeBob episode two
apparently, Damn, I gotta watch an episode. Yeah we are, Yes,
So it's funny. He said that. Me and Lee, Uh,
we had an episode that we quoted like all the time, SpongeBob. SpongeBob.
It was our favorite. We need the whole freaking episode. Which episode
I don't remember. You don't remember any of it. I remember it was
something like liar liar plants for plants for SpongeBob was like pants on fire.
Patrick, So like me and Leo like alternate lines, and we do that
with the Star Wars episode three two, it'd be like, you're my brother
Annakin, I loved you, and Lee would be like, I was just
role playing killing each other. Yeah, it's pretty Yeah, we can't do
it in real life, so might as well pretend we love Oh yeah,
pretending to murder each other would like, oh, I got two lights.
Anyways, it's over over a river of lava. What is it with you
in lava on fire? Yeah? It moves too far from it three Yeah,
it was my favorite planet Star Wars eurse. It was. That's crazy,
dude. I'm noticing a trend here. Yeah, I am too.
We've revealed a lot here in this episode tonight. It's been a good sight
sash. Yeah, well, I feel like we're over an hour. Um,
anything else you want to get off your chest before we do? Yeah?
This mucus? Yeah, muse next, dude, Um, I don't
think so. Hell yeah, you enjoy yourself. That was It was awesome.
Sweet. I totally was like, I'm gonna botch this somehow. Yeah.
You think bad about everything and then you're cautious optimism. You're great at
like everything you do. That's not true? Whatever? Shut up. All
right, we're gonna you know how we end the episode right bye, guys,
all right, we're gonna do it. Ready, three two one by
Weird things happened in the backyard to send. It was so weird coming closer
to player's industry, like spiraling on the inside of it. No one knows.
Wow, let's come right over time. Shide ain't Camp.