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Weird things happened in the backyard.
Weird weird, weird. Wow. Hey

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yo oh man yo, I was
gonna do it differently than we usually do

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it, and I just fell right
into it. It's a trap, man,

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dude, what this is? Inescapable
bro trap either way? Hey,

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what's up everybody? How are you? I love you? Uh? We're

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here with a very exciting guest.
It is someone who I've been in love

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with for quite some time, longer
than I can remember, Longer than I

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can remember. Honestly, I don't
even know when it happened. It just

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kind of started and it's never stopped
since. Warren Smith ladies in gentlemen in

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the Illustrious, wonderful, beautiful man
uh, and also happens to be cousin

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of Ryan Blood. So I'm gonna
be honest, I don't know what illustrious

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means. Dude. Well, it
means that you're cool. That's all you

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really need to know is that it's
a it's a compliment. Later it means

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you're you're pretty cool. So Warren
is actually pretty active in our discord server

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occasionally, and um, why why
don't we go into like what's your name

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is? Disorder? The botanist,
dude, is it the freaking bottom.

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I that's not the same thing.
That's for us later, but yeah,

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that's a different thing entirely. You're
you're the botanist. So yeah, so

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them, Why, well, um, I'm I like plants, but I'm

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really bad at it. Oh what, I'm trying a lot more. That's

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bull that's not true. You're honestly, like probably the person that I know

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in my life that is goodest at
plants. Yeah, I would, Yeah,

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I think I could. Uh,
I could say I'm goodest at it.

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You know, I actually don't know
the answer to this, But when

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did you I've known you pretty much
as long as I've known Ryan. For

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for those who don't know, we
were all like high school kids. We

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it was just everybody was at my
house. Look you may disagree, okay,

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but I consider us very close.
Yeah. Well we're actually kind of

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close right now. Yeah exactly.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, even

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if it's just that, you're pretty
accurate there, honestly, But when when

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did you get into like like your
nature actively well yeah, but like like

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actively growing things. So I really
don't know. I honestly don't know either,

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Like it kind of just happened.
Um, I think it was honestly

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when Um, I contacted your dad
because I heard he'd had a beautiful garden

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at the year old house. Oh
yeah, that's right he did. Yeah.

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So uh yeah, big squad yea
zucchini huh the tallest around bro.

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Yeah. Oh dude, he really
had an ocra stock that was ten feet

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tall. Like that's kind of insane. What dad just knew he I mean

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he grew up on a farm,
you know, like he just he knows

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how to work it. Yeah,
So yeah, I wanted to learn to

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grow and he was obviously really good
at it yea. And I wanted to

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start with anything, so vegetables was
a good foundation. So um we started

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with tomatoes and I wanted to learn
how to grow in uh at March,

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May, April, June, etc. Is that difficult, by the way,

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like growing tomatoes, because I feel
like that's one thing that if I

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was to grow a crop, like
I used tomatoes in almost everything, So

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it's not necessarily difficult, but it
is pretty demanding. I mean, you

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have to like upkeep it. You
have to like trim back the bottom leaves

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so it doesn't get infection and whatnot. That's disease work for me. Yeah.

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Well, it is a lot of
work. Honestly. You gotta water

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it quite frequently. And in the
summer um when me and your dad did

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it, we had a water like
two or three times a day because the

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summer was brutal. It was really
basic. So did he kind of like

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actively teach you how to Yeah,
that's so we used his freaking what is

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it called that Troy built the tiller? Yeah, the Troy built tiller.

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He was super proud of that thing. Rebuilt the engine and everything, if

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I'm not mistaken, And we took
it out there and he was like,

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all right, son, you're doing
it not I was like great, So

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I started doing it, and like
it was. It was crazy because there's

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bricks everywhere because they used they used
to use that as a dumping site,

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I'm pretty sure for old construction,
and so I had to dig up bricks

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and uh, it was a lot
of work, but it was sick.

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That's that's so wild that like you
just kind of you just saw his garden

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and you were basically like, I'm
in no matter how much work there is.

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Yeah, I wanted to learn it. Why because I don't know just

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the idea of just growing something.
I don't really know how to put it

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into words. But like you asked
me when I've been interested in nature,

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Well, he asked me when I
started it. Yeah, well you asked

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me when I started being interested in
nature, So that was pretty much like

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I did ask the Nature party.
I was pretty much always I mean I

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wanted to have like a greenhouse terrarium
when I was like six years old.

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Like Warren was always into like frogs
and lizards and and like things like that,

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even at a young age, like
something about cultivating like like a terrarium

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or an acquartinent, and you have
aquariums and stuff when you're kid. Yeah,

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and this is honestly really stupid.
What. I took a trash can

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and I filled it with dirt and
ants, and I was what, Yeah,

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I was thinking in my head,
like self sustained ecosystem. So I

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put into ants in there and then
like hoping that they would make an ant

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colony. And I dropped a lizard
in there, thinking he was gonna infinitely

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eat the ants infinitely. It was
the other way around him. They ate

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him. No. I was like
eight though, so like that's not sacrificing

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to the ant. Yeah, the
show. We condemn sacrifice. Yeah,

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we do, we openly unless it's
a brand, unless it's a brand of

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it, right, that's true.
Unless it's a brand of sac that's fair

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like a brand of it. If
it's a brand of sacrifice, it's fine.

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You sacrificed a lizard to aunts unintentionally, Yeah, you put a lizard

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in there, and what like the
next day he was no longer a living

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lizard. It was it was just
I mean he was like meal. Yeah,

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you know, I mean he was
still there, it's just kind of

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ants were on them and his soul
was gone. Yeah, he was no

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longer living. That was an ex
lizard. I was always terrified of frogs

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and lizard when I was a kid. But I'll tell you this. I

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read Did you ever read a Series
of Unfortunate Events? Unfortunately? I mean

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I'm kidding. That was the only
book I could stomach. Honestly, Yeah,

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I hated fiction books, but for
some reason I gravitated towards that.

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Like a lot. They are kind
of really magnetic, like they're really good

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if you if you notice, like, have you read them? My mom

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read them to me and and then
I started reading. It's like audio books

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for children. It's like their mom
reads it to him. Why do you

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think audio books are so popular?
Yeah, so so she read them to

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you then, Yeah, dude,
that's what I'm saying. Like even Alex,

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who knows nothing about movies, about
movies or popular culture in the slightest,

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like even he knows about series of
unfortunate events, let that one side.

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Yeah, you let it, you
let it slide. The reason that

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I bring it up is because even
though I hated like frogs and lizards and

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stuff like that, which, by
the way, the reptile room exactly,

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yeah, the which is the second
one I read, the reptile room,

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he had the Yeah. And when
they described like his the terrarium in his

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house. From that moment, what
was the guy's name, I don't know.

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Montgomery, Montgomery, dude. You
get points. You get points for

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that. I don't know if we're
keeping score, but you get points.

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Well, I mean we have to
now, yeah, yeah we do.

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Alex started scoreboard one point to Ryan. Yeah, one doll. I was

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gonna make that joke. Maybe I
shouldn't, but like after I saw that,

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I always wanted a terrarium, even
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which, by the way, hilariously, I love you, Emily, but

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Emily is a frog. I think
my mom and dad they bought her a

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frog sat you as a wedding.
They had it wrapped up in like this,

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like your dad terrorizers here. So
just for context, Warrens mom is

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my mom's little sister. So,
like, we grew up very close.

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Like, I mean, it was
to the point where my mom and dad

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would leave the country for a week. I mean they, you know,

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back when they owned the business Blitzo
Construction. They'd go on trips multiple times

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a year and I'd be standing at
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Yeah, I did this pretty sweet, just quick sidebar. I didn't know

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it was called Blitzo Construction. Yeah, and Blitzo Realty was the real estate

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and business that my mom owned in
conjunction with my parents. Weren't for his

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parents too, Yeah, and like
they yeah, like doing the books and

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stuff or what like milling houses.
So my dad was on the construction side.

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I honestly don't know what my mom
didn't either. Honestly, I did

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this a long time. All I
gotta say is his dad was a good

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boss. Really we were good off. Oh you mean you mean Chris Senior.

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Yeah, Chris, we're pretty good
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that just goes to show you know, your dad's character. But sorry,

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sorry, I don't know, it's
okay. I was just gonna say,

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like, we basically grew up together
like brothers, like to this day.

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I mean all these years, his
parents call me their uh fifth son,

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I think, yeah, the fifth
fifth son. It used to be fourth

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but then they adopted. Oh it
was knocked down the fifth Oh yeah that's

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right, that's right, so and
I'm the fifth son all of a sudden.

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But anyway, Yeah, so we
grew up super close and like I

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can't I cannot tell you how many
nights we spend each other's house just getting

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into dullmass antics, especially when Chris
Junior and Grayson were involved. Oh man,

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it was always weird. Dude,
it's weird. Is it story time?

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I'm sorry it is probably no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

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just like yo, both both were
like maybe not, it's just like kids

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being kids, you know, but
it was just don't want to put out

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there, but crazy. Um yeah, you know it's weird because our families,

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all of the kids we're all the
same age right, Yeah, it

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was almost planned. Well they've had
that joke for many years. Yeah,

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exactly, like it was literally right, Yeah, it's like literally it's the

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same number of kids, exactly.
Is the one girl they plan that to

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believe it or not. No,
you can't plan that. What are you

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talking about? There's you know,
there's something you can do. You can't

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plan. Yeah, so we we've
just funny though, because like pretty much

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all the it was like the exact
same age gap. Oh yeah, and

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we all just we meshed. So
it was like a glove. It was

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like because of that and like a
glove making Jim Carrey jokes on. I

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was actually gonna I was if I
was gonna start the episode, I was

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gonna say, so, Warrent,
I'm gonna give you a conundrum here,

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what's better Sonic Too or Diablo two? Don't stop? Oh no, you

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you you were like, Sonic is
like my childhood and then Diablo two is

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also my childhood. Sonic just came
first. You're you're officially in the hot

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seat now, yeah, so what's
better Sonic Too or Diablo two? Different

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categories? Because I signed like it's
like that is phenomenal, dude. All

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jokes aside. I know we've made
a meme on this show about you know

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that movie. Oh I'm the Diablo
two guy, by the way, Oh

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yeah, I know that. Y'all
have heard us talk about my cousin cousins

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Warren about Diablo. What the Diablo
two. That's Warren right there, That's

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that's mister Diablo too. For as
long as I can remember, fifteen plus

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years, dude, we could not
bring up a video game. You You

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could not name a video game.
Got worse, still is worse than Dolo.

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I see. This is what this
is what happens every time, bro,

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that new got a war game came
out, brought in twenty eight two

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resurrected. Yeah, bro, I
remember. I remember being a ten year

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old kid being at his house and
the early two thousands and him sending me

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down and making me play because it
was sick. I loved it because we

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obviously grew up from the same background, like the Christian Pentecostal and like super

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like. He convinced me this is
kind of hilarious. I don't know if

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oh my god, what am I
about to say. I don't know if

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you remember this, but like my
parents were super strict and yours were,

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but like in a kind of different
way. I don't know. They were

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strict about the belief. Yeah,
they didn't police every single thing we said

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and did. So you convinced me
that we all know what this means,

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right yeah, yeah, you think
I was not watching. He's holding up

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his middle finger, right, yeah, my middle fingers up. Ryan convinced

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me that it was perfectly acceptable in
the Christian faith to flip off the ground.

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In other words, you're flipping off
the devil, like you're saying,

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yeah, yeah, exactly. And
I was true, wow, this is

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excellent and less like and more like
seven year old terms and no, no,

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no, no, I really like
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the idea of you being seven and
going this is excellent. Yeah. So

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I did that in front of my
mom. I was like, hey,

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mom, look I'm flipping off the
devil. And she was like, yeah,

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I never do that again. I
was like, why, it's not

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bad if you're flipping off the devil. It's okay to curse if it's the

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devil. Yeah, that's literally what
Ryan taught me. Yeah, I just

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I just came up with him.
Man influence him in such a negative way.

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And he's older. Yeah, he's
two years older. I honestly have

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no idea. It's just like you're
just impressionable. I guess. So that

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was the word I was gonna use. But yeah I was negative. Bro,

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that's like, that's like fighting the
darkness. Like yeah, it's like,

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yeah, it's like John Constant.
Parents just don't understand. It's just

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don't understand. It's like John Constantine
uses the dark arts to fight the dark

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arts. You're super into John Constantine. Yeah, I love that, dude.

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Why because he's freaking o excellent right
now? Excellent. Yeah, he's

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an excellent dude. He's like,
I mean, Batman is cool, but

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I don't know something about him.
I've always been like, you know,

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obsessed with like hell and not you
know what I'm saying, Like just getting

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into this the concept of it's like
it's terrifying, Well because we were terrified

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of it, Yeah, exact hole. You know that's where we will go

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if we you think, do you
think that's maybe where it comes from?

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He said that on an episode and
I got a thing and dude, it

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probably is accurate. Really, Yeah, when you all I think it was

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in the hell episode y'all made.
Y'all made a dowblot to comment. And

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when do you listen to every episode? I did when I uh fan?

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Yeah, I used to when I
was driving for a living, But then

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I would listen to every episode when
Chris Junior was my boss and now I'm

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doing something else entirely and is super
difficult, busy man. Yeah, it's

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super difficult, but I yeah,
I listened to every episode there for a

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long time, at least like sixty
plus like he was, Yeah, he

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was following it and even like texting
me for the early episode. You're not

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a fake fan at all. Yeah. Any times I've gotten text from Warren

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and like zero context, you'll just
like say some random thing and I have

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no idea what you're talking about,
and I'm like what, and you're like,

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oh, I just watched the episode. Yeah, my dad does that

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to me. Yeah. I would
literally be listening to the episode and here's

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something I'm like, uh, and
then I'll text the group chat and then

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yeah, hopefully they know what I'm
talking about. I think he might have

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more episodes under your belt than any
other guests we've brought on. What do

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you mean as far as I WATCHPT
for like MK, yeah, but yeah,

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I mean true, well Jenny,
but like it's also like her job.

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Yo. So were you ever into
Doom? So let me put it

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dealing because it's like the hell thing. I actually got convinced by my brother.

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He sent me a photo of Grayson. Yeah, shout out Grayson.

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Grayson. He's the one who in
their family. Who is Chris Junior's age.

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Yeah, yeah, and they were
there were buddies for a long long

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time. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but there was a photo you sent

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me of like demons coming through a
portal and the Doom. Yeah, the

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video game, the new one,
I think Doom twenty sixteen. Yeah,

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and uh I saw that and I
was like, maybe I'll give it a

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shot, and then I beat the
hell out of Oh you did? Yeah,

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pun intended. And then I was
so obsessed with it that I went

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to Doom Eternal immediately after, and
like I did, I was Ryan knows.

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It was very hard for me to
play video games that were single player

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because it always felt like a waste
of time. So do you want to

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be social and play? Yeah,
exactly the same way I say games.

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I love him now because I don't
have a lot of time to do multiplayer,

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So I've been doing a lot of
single player lately, just if I

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can get into it. I beat
Doom. I heard Doom Eternal. Like

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obviously there was tons of buzz about
Doom twenty sixteen, and I played that

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one. It was amazing, it
was awesome. Yeah, but I heard

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Doom Eternal is like the truth.
I've heard nothing but that the simple fact

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that it was better in every way. Yeah, I've not heard a single

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negative thing about Doom Eternal. Yeah, I just I meant to say this

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earlier. I completely forgot. And
but like my obsession with Diablo two goes

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so far that I literally bought a
golf set called Diablo simply based on the

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name. Yeah, that's like your
newest obsession as golf. Yeah, but

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like I had to bring Diablo into
it, and that was the only way

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to do that. Bringing up a
good topics, obviously, I'm assuming with

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like the way things are going now, Like you're not living every day in

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fear of Hell still currently. Yeah, so like let's talk about that.

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Let's dig in a little bit,
Like at what point did it click for

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you that Hell was just like a
fear tactic? You know, because I

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mean I vividly remember us as kids
being terrified. Hell. I had a

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dream when I was a kid that
literally Hell opened beneath me when I was

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laying on my bed and it just
opened up and it was just read beneath

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me. And I was always terrified
that at any given moment he could just

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open the floor beneath you to drop
you in it. It was crazy.

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I was like six six, Yeah, I was already answering your question.

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You were you were? You remember
that? Yeah? It's it was traumatizing,

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Like how do you not remember that? Yeah? And and and you

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know, to make this worse,
like, you know, young Christian kids

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really are like believing this is real, like it's possible, right, yeah,

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it's not just a nightmare like this
might happen. Yeah. So I'm

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laying in bed like terrified, like
yeo, dude, Hell's gonna open beneath

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me for some reason. Oh yeah, it was horrible, Doude. I

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remember one time when we were teenagers, you had a nightmare about the rapture

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happening, but you didn't go Yeah, remember, dude, I had that

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dream before too, Like you know
what's funny, I have no idea what

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age I was. But I was
talking in the last episode with Jenny about

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how like I was, like,
how can you remember dreams that you had

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when you were a kid. But
now that you mentioned that, I'm gonna

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say I was probably in the ballpark
of ten to twelve, and I vividly

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remember that dream, like I remember
I was in my backyard, and I

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remember like streaks of light coming from
the clouds. It was like an overcast

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day, like I vividly remember this, and and like my my whole family,

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mom, dad, brothers, sister, and me started floating up towards

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the sky like we were going to
heaven. I remember looking to my right

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and seeing my grandma and grandpa too, because they lived next door, and

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they were going up too. And
then I started falling back down. No,

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yeah, everyone else kept going up. I don't know if you subconsciously

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did this or not, but the
first time you said you were sending you

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did this, yeah, it was
I did not. I mean, I'm

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gonna have to watch that like this
that's some Freudian something. Yeah, well,

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that's why you didn't go to the
rapture because you weren't flicking off the

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devil. You were flicking off God. Yeah, yeah, and then sent

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me back down. So that's I
don't know, but I do remember that.

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That's crazy. Like I thought I
didn't remember any dreams from when I

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was a kid, but I do
remember that one. They're in there.

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You just gotta be like reminded of
the memory. Yeah, you know,

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yeah, I think that's never goes
away. Random thought. Apparently your smell

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is the most powerful memory trigger.
I've heard that. Well, apparently smell

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is like the most powerful sense in
general. Like it's it's more, it

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activates areas of your brain, more
areas of your brain than anything. I

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can't hear poop, but I guess
certainly powerful. That's pretty powerful. Man

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point deducted negative. I wound that
on a shirt. I can't hear poop.

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Wait, yeah, I said that's
what he said. I can't hear

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poop, but I can certainly smell. I've heard one before. Yeah,

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I was gonna say, I mean
that's true, but I think I've heard.

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I think i've heard. What is
more, I'm comfortable, though,

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hearing it or smelling it. I
don't want to do either, but seeing

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it's pretty bad. What I you
know what I do want to do.

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Since we're talking about dreams, Alex
told me, uh, we talk about

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your Yeah, he's just talking about
I had talking about the Hell dream before.

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In between Jenny's episode and this one, Alex was like, dude,

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I had a dream story, so
I want to hear it. This is

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really like peeking in these dreams that
stick with you from childhood. So it's

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kind of insane. Honestly, I
don't remember much yesterday, so it's it's

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just weird. So yeah, this
isn't from childhood. I'm about to take

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this really low. Okay, Okay, this episode has been very high and

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this dream is very intense. We
don't know, we've been talking about hell

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and fecal matter. Like it's not
been that hot. But so I love

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it. I woke up it.
I woke up from this dream probably three

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or four in the morning and immediately
wrote everything down. I was very gut

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Yeah. When I predict your dream, I've told you. The next morning

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I woke up. When I have
crazy dreams, I call Ryan in the

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morning. Really huh. I let
him get up because he's he doesn't get

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up as early as me. But
I'm like, hey, man, let

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me tell you about this joke must
have been, like what within the past

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year this was. I have the
date written it was the fourth of this

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month, February fourth. Yeah,
so all right, I'll just get into

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it because it's all like bullet points. But basically, I remember meeting this

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very um affluent looking guy, button
down sunglasses, like like mogul type if

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that makes sense. Like he could
have been in a shark tank like one

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of my status Yeah, he was
one of the sharks. Yeah. Um.

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And I was like, like wanted
to be that right, And I'm

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like looking, I'm like holding reverence
to this person. And Ian was there

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shout out. Ian is the first
shout out my girl on Instagram. So

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so we're like and me and Ihan
were like doing jobs for this guy,

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like he was like giving us errands
to run and the next thing I know,

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like the it kind of just skips
and me and this mogul guy are

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in It was like a cross between
a doctor's waiting room and the post office

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because we were all in here,
and I remember I got mail while I

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was in there and I opened it. But anyway, we're sitting there and

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random parts this guy. I got
the sense that this guy's ex wife comes

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busting in the door and it's like
starts screaming at him. I don't even

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know what it was about, like, and then they like left, and

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I'm still in this waiting room and
uh, let me check my notes,

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make sure I'm on track here,
and so but I had this sense that

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this mogul guy was very spiritual,
Like it was all very spiritual. Do

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you keep a do you regularly keep
a dream journal? No, I just

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write down the intense nay. Yeah. And so then I started walking through

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this, uh, this area,
this waiting room by myself, and I

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remember seeing one of my uncles who
has passed away, whoa. And I

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remember just like looking at him and
being like hey, like good to see

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you, and he was like good
to see you too, and I just

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kind of like clossed over it in
my dream, but it was like it

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was like acknowledging that he was there. And then I found Olivia, my

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fiance the first time. YEA said, yeah, congratulations to Alex and Olivia

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that you made in heaven. You're
derailing my dream? Love you? Why

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anyway back to my dream? No, it's awesome, YEA. More important

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things to talk about. So she
was there and then this is where it

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gets very weird. Man, I
had this, like it came to me,

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and I told her and I was
like, yo, like is no,

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this is it's like almost like trigger
warning. But like I was like,

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yo, I have stage four liver
cancer and I'm dying. Why That's

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what I told her. It came
to me, and I told her that,

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and so and I told her that
I realized I was gonna die.

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I remember this. She realized I
was gonna die. You don't have cancer.

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We started crying together, Oh my
god. And so I'm just like

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and I remember telling her. I
didn't tell her this part, but I

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remember just being like, look,
it's okay. Just like move on with

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your life. Go find somebody like
it's gonna be okay, and like fully

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coming to grips with it. And
then I'm like calming myself down in the

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dream and I said, look,
it's all right. I'm an infinite light

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being. And when I said that, I woke up, and no one

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else is interesting about that. When
when you like kind of just like went

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past he said it was your uncle, you acknowledged him and kept going.

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That's like a lot of a lot
of mystic texts and stuff like they talk

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about reuniting with like the souls of
your family and how it's like no big

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deal. Like it's like I had
that happen all the time, Like just

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last night or the night before,
I dreamed my grandfather who only passed in

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twenty thirteen, So I mean I
was like in my twenties. Yeah,

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you know, I have recurring dreams
where he's just chilling on the couch and

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it's like in my dream, I
know he's dead, but we're just like

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permitted to chill. Yeah, and
you don't even it's not even but he

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doesn't talk really, He's just sitting
there, but like he's there. I

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get like he's actually there in my
dream. I don't think my uncle talked

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to me either, but it was
more never talks. The whole dream was

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very um like there was not a
lot of talking. It was all just

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like knowing, like when I when
I found out, it's like it was

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like a sense of emotion feelings.
Yeah, and it was just so emotional

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and I like as soon as I
woke up, I like rolled over and

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she was there and I was like, all right, cool, it's like

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a dream. But I just started
writing every rolled over, He's like,

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will you marry me? This is
actually there's no reality in where he would

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say it was kind of like aspiration
on the op chance he really did have

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it, Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, Well I woke up.

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I'm like, fuck, do I
need to call a doctor? I need

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to me And he's like, he's
telling me this dream. I said,

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you know what, man, you're
fine. You know I'm cancer. You're

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very stressed. Probably really that's yeah, he downplayed the whole thing, like

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just like I don't want you to
get in here. Hell no, no,

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no, that's an intense dream.
Yeah, that's injured, definitely,

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isn't I mean, look debatedly,
not white as intense as a child getting

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sucked into hell, but intense.
I don't got to say. I don't

408
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.759
remember many dreams since then, dude, I was actually gonna ask about that.

409
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:17.720
You know, I don't remember my
dreams at all, never, like

410
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.880
you don't have any big standout ones
because I'm that way too. Well the

411
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.960
other like, it's really dumb.
What's that Dante's peak? That movie with

412
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:32.039
the volcano Dante's peak, I haven't
seen that. It's uh man, anyways,

413
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.759
a volcano or upted and I got
burnt alive. That was again,

414
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:42.319
there's lava in Hell. Yeah,
yeah, it's lava. I'm sure that's

415
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.279
yeah. It was lava. Absolutely. We're in a white van and it

416
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:49.319
just it was. It was crazy
because, uh, the lava poured down

417
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:52.720
the volcano and I was in the
truth in the van. I was like,

418
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.200
well, it's either I get burnt
alive or I jumped. So I

419
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.200
jumped, and I was like,
oh, burn alive. Anyw, this

420
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.920
is suicide. I'm going to Hell. I should have just let in.

421
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.039
Yeah, I should have just got
burned alive. It is I could avoid

422
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:11.640
the eternal. It's Dante's peak.
I've never seen that movie. That movie

423
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:18.960
is excellent, dude, I honestly
believe, like on some subconscious level,

424
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:25.440
like you've always been so fascinated with
Diablo too because of your deep childhood fear

425
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:27.960
of Hell. I honestly think that's
exactly what it is. It makes sense.

426
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.880
It makes sense to me always talking, start talking about experiences you've had.

427
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.119
What was it like growing up with
an uncle who was having all these

428
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:41.640
bizarre experiences. I was sheltered from
it largely, really, Yeah, so

429
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:47.960
I only know what they told me
in the red room. I spent Yeah,

430
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:52.880
I spent a lot of night hanging
out with Ryan and three or four

431
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:56.400
o'clock in the morning, playing video
games, talking about it and whatnot.

432
00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:00.880
So from my parents' side, I
was sheltered from it. They wouldn't let

433
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.759
me know of anything that was going
on. I had no idea for the

434
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.839
longest time. So really after it
happened, yeah, because you know,

435
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.759
I mean, you know this on
my mom's side, it was taboo.

436
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.039
Well, sure, sure, I
heard let me back pedal. I heard

437
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:19.160
from family members that the typical things
you hear, like what, oh,

438
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:25.839
you know, just boogerman and drugs. You know. I didn't want to

439
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:27.319
have to go in all those d
Yeah, I'm not nice things. Yeah,

440
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:30.559
I didn't want to go into details. Okay, sure yeah. Um

441
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:34.359
So I heard those things and I
was like, it seems pretty samee to

442
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.680
me. I mean, one thing
that stuck with me, and it's kind

443
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:44.880
of crazy, is he said,
think of our planet as a grain of

444
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:51.000
salt in the ocean. There's millions
and billions and billions of planets. There's

445
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:55.119
also billions and billions of particles of
salt in the ocean. And he said,

446
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:56.960
think of our planet as a grain
of salt in the ocean. Why

447
00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:03.720
is it that only our plant has
life and no other plant and the grains

448
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.680
of salt and the ocean has life. Why is that? Why couldn't it

449
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:11.079
be? So? Your dad never
tried to convince me this stuff is real.

450
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.359
What your dad was is thought provoking
statements like that. That was like,

451
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.440
why couldn't that be real? You
think he's really wise. So he

452
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.079
never once tried to sit me down
and say, believe me, this is

453
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:26.839
what happened. He just didn't.
He just he doesn't really do that to

454
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.720
anybody except for my mom because she
sees it and it's like come on,

455
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.880
so you know, but he's not
like that, so he yeah. So

456
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.559
it was literally just consider it.
And I was like, well, I

457
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:42.359
certainly am now, like I'm thinking
about it. I think you know what

458
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.039
that tells me And and forget the
fact that I'm his son, Like I'm

459
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.559
just saying, like first thought that
comes to mind, no no bias.

460
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:56.559
That tells me about a man who
is really experiencing something and is so confident

461
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.680
and then it's real. He's like, I don't I don't got to say

462
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.720
here and prove it to you just
just think about it. Yeah, you

463
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.079
know that's a good point, because
if he had something to hide, or

464
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.640
if he was guilty of a hoax
or or or or you know, was

465
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:12.799
was desperate to fabricate some story,
it would be like, I got believe

466
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.279
me, You're gonna believe me,
you know, And it's like, so

467
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.680
it's never been like that ever,
that's always ever been stuck with me.

468
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:23.200
That that analogy in that comparison,
So, um, I thought it was

469
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:27.160
super cool. Yeah, yeah,
that parted that knowledge. The way that

470
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.039
he says. Yeah, sometimes he'll
put a little he'll put a little seed

471
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.400
in your head and then it'll just
be like you like he does freaking plans,

472
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.359
dude, exactly, he just cracks
it open. You won't stop thinking

473
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.559
about it. It'll roll around in
your head until you like unravel it,

474
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:47.039
you know. Yeah, that's how
he raised me, dude. But I

475
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.880
mean, like Jesus, and I
say that gratefully, but I mean as

476
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.519
as as a teamage Jesus, he
just says some deepast ship, I'm so

477
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.839
great. I wasn't always ready to
hear it. Sure, you know,

478
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.599
as a as a wanting to be
a normal kid, Dude, you know,

479
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:05.240
it's so crazy how different we think
when we're kids. Oh yeah,

480
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.759
really yeah. Kids just think they
know everything, that they're right and nothing,

481
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.839
that they're invincible. Yeah, exactly, you know, like they're yeah,

482
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.359
absolutely cocky, little shit kids.
Not not little kids, I mean

483
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.920
like teenagers. I love kids.
I'm not saying bad things about of course,

484
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:24.519
you know what I mean like kids, kids hormonal, cocky, just

485
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:28.759
think they know better. And I
say that because I was one. Exactly

486
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:30.599
you know what I mean from experience, exactly were that. Yeah, I

487
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.640
did a lot of stupid things.
Oh yeah, very like just a dumber

488
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:40.519
sh like my health was in danger. Like there was one night, remember

489
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:45.160
when we got like like blankets and
sheets and tied them up and was like

490
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.880
repelling from the top floor of your
Yes, oh dude, who are they

491
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.960
dune started? Yeah, oh yeah. What we would do is we would

492
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:57.839
have a guy who was built big
enough or two and wrap it around their

493
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:01.079
ways the way it's like a seventeen
year old kid, and we would literally

494
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:06.680
full sprint and jump out the window
like swan dive and then like repel down

495
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.200
like splinter cell rainbow of six vegas
too. Kids are stupid, Yeah,

496
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:15.799
that is I could never. I
thought, like, the craziest thing I

497
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:19.119
probably ever did is like, right
when Jackass was first coming out, I

498
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.880
like drove my bike into some bushes. I've never I've never had his hard

499
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:29.000
score. I've never swanned over the
window into a blanket repel. Dude,

500
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.119
you're like special Forces. When we
were like sixteen, he wasn't in it

501
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:36.359
on this, and I wasn't generally
in on it because I thought it was

502
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:43.240
awful. But when Grayson's friends came
to the house with my parents, really

503
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:49.279
thought we loved pudding? What really
like you know the pudding? Yeah,

504
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:53.240
like chocolate pudding. She thought,
we really liked pudding. What were you

505
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:58.440
doing with that pudding? They Grayson
would have parties and they would come over

506
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:04.960
and toss pudding cards, passing bonds. What isn't it? Eventually rocks?

507
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:07.639
It was eggs. I mean,
if it was rocks, I was never

508
00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:13.199
part of that. It was eggs. Rocks would be stupid. And one

509
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.920
time I decided, you know what, I wanted to be one of the

510
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:22.159
cool guys. I went out there
and they hit a cop car no,

511
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:27.000
and I ran as fast as I
could to my room upstairs and had a

512
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:29.639
game ready to go because I was
like, this is a bad idea,

513
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.440
So I had I had an escape
plan. I was in a call of

514
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:37.400
duty too freaking lobby, waiting to
go for online. I was prepared,

515
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.760
just yeah, like, look here, my light's been on this whole time.

516
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:44.400
House kids, you have not noticed. Well he figured out it was

517
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:49.280
us and parked in the driveway and
sat there for like an hour and finally

518
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:51.679
left. Nothing came of it,
but I was like, the one time

519
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.719
I decided to be a stupid kid. One time they made the news.

520
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:59.119
I remember because um, they were
walking around slashing Christmas slashing, blow up

521
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.679
the crazing. They were caught,
but it made the local news. It

522
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:07.880
was like like Christmas decoration slashers or
something like that. Grayson didn't participate in

523
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:12.920
that, but his friends did.
And they not even like friends that aren't

524
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:14.679
friends, you know what I mean. Yea, yea, yeah, yeah,

525
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.679
they are always the worst. Let's
shift gears here. Um that one

526
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.920
night you were staying over with me
and we were up really late. It

527
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.119
was probably I know, it was
some time when we didn't have school.

528
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:28.000
It was like three am. Yeah, yeah, we were in the living

529
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:30.519
room. I'm sorry. I complete
describe what happened. Yeah, I was

530
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:34.079
in the I'm sorry, like you
were talking, but like this is how

531
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.039
the show goes. I know I
didn't mean it. So I was in

532
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.559
the living room. And the reason
why we're in the living room is because

533
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:45.440
your dad installed that furnace that sends
the heat to all the woodstove that does

534
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.519
this sends the heat to the whole
house. They didn't have. He couldn't

535
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:52.440
afford heating and air, so he
literally and literally would go and cut the

536
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:59.639
logs. Yeah, like daily day
had him bad as the stack was probably

537
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:01.159
half the size of this room.
Is that correct, Like, I don't

538
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:02.559
want to exaggerate it. No,
no, no, no, no,

539
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.440
right the size of this room.
Yeah, the woodstofa in the backyard,

540
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.360
the little shed where the chicken coop, Yeah, exactly. They were literally

541
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.000
like man, it doesn't talk about
the wood stove in the book, but

542
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.079
there's a whole chapter devoted to how
dad becomes obsessed with prepping because he couldn't

543
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:19.480
even afford to put food on the
table. So it got into gardening.

544
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.719
He couldn't afford groceries. I was
in the gardening side. Tangent again,

545
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:28.239
I was in gardening because I liked
the idea of vegetables are easy to grow

546
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.440
in comparison to wild flowers, and
that was my ultimate goal as attracting like

547
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.280
various native bees and butterflies and whatnot. That's a side tangent. We can

548
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.920
talk about that later if you want. But um, we specifically went to

549
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:45.760
the living room because I for some
reason that stoves nice. It was nostalgic.

550
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:49.559
Yeah, and there it is,
there's your fire, and we would

551
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.960
feel the fire and I was like, right, can we sleep in here

552
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:54.280
tonight? I love that wood stove? And he was like yeah, man,

553
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:58.320
absolutely. So he was in on
the back wall where the window is,

554
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.480
and I'm right here, completely across
from the woodstove on the on the

555
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:06.599
count exactly and uh me and him
grew up sleeping on couches. It would

556
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.599
be comfortable, so like it was
no different than that. There sometimes yeah,

557
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:14.440
yeah, plenty of times. It
was awesome. It's nostalgic, dude,

558
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:19.440
it's super nostalgic. The flames reminded
me of my hell dreams. So

559
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:29.079
staring to the little glass window just
like visualizing your destination there. So we're

560
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.880
laying there and it's like three or
four o'clock in the morning. I want

561
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.920
to say it was like three o'clock. It was like it was late.

562
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.679
It was super late. It was
in the winter time. I couldn't tell

563
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.480
an exact month, but it was
cold enough to have a freaking fire going.

564
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:46.079
Sure. Yea. And this blinding
light passes through You ever played a

565
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:50.400
splinter cell games where you have the
search light that kind of like, yeah,

566
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.920
it does this thing and it's just
I don't know how to describe it,

567
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.320
man, And it like scanned past, the scans past the window,

568
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:59.079
filled the room with light. You
better filled me telling you when I saw

569
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.280
that at your house? Uh huh, it was in that room. So

570
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:07.280
yes, I have a for lack
of better words. And I've seen that

571
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:08.760
in the backyard by the way.
That's crazy, like with door open,

572
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.360
like I'm looking out the door,
blinding light moved through the backyard. That's

573
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.480
freaking weird. Did you both see
it? Oh? Yeah, I was

574
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.400
like like I'm on this country the
windows like here, like I was laying

575
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:23.079
under it, and Warren was on
you know, like imagine it's just a

576
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.840
wall like that, and the couches
are like kind of like a ninety degree

577
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:29.760
angle from each other. He was
on the other one looking at the window,

578
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.840
so the light came over me.
And it took Warren many years to

579
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.519
process what I said. That was
what happened that night. I was like,

580
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.559
Ryan, what was that? He
said, Yeah, I just want

581
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:45.760
to go back to sleep, and
I was like, no, he never,

582
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:46.960
like we never talked about it that
night. He just to go back

583
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.480
to sleep. And I was like, all right, Well, if he's

584
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:51.760
good with it, and I'm good
with it, I guess and I have

585
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.000
a good Yeah, I kind of
have, for lack of better words,

586
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:59.840
like an analytical mind. I'm really
good at saying what something isn't sure,

587
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.760
but I'm not good at saying what
something is. For example, You're always

588
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:06.800
like, I hope I'm going enough
on the mic. I hope I'm going

589
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.599
to I hope I'm going on good
on that. You know, you're you're

590
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:14.360
always the the isn't. Yeah.
Yeah, well that's a lesson for you.

591
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:19.559
It's because well it's cautious. I
call it cautious optimism. Oh yeah,

592
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.400
it's cautious optimism. Like I think
maybe I might be good, but

593
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.400
there's the chance I won't be,
So don't get all in on the idea.

594
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.320
That I'll be good. That sounds
like pessimism. Yeah, it really

595
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:34.239
sounds like pessimism. I call it
cautious optimism. It sounds like look at

596
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.480
it. So yeah, I'm optimistic
about my pessimism. Bro sure sure,

597
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.440
so yeah and then yeah I understand
it. So I'm good at saying what

598
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.239
things aren't. So I'm going through
the motions, like, Okay, that

599
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:50.039
obviously it wasn't a freaking helicopter because
if you knew what point what was side

600
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:54.719
of the house that was facing was
like a thin driveway and then trees completely

601
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.239
like it was not a car.
It was not a car had been floating

602
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.039
like Harry Potter and like yeah,
pointing in the window. The street is

603
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:07.199
like literally a hundred yards to the
east of that a drone. I don't

604
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:13.239
know back then, right, So, like you know, it was a

605
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.519
lot of things that it wasn't a
plane. If it was, I wouldn't

606
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:19.119
be here telling the story. Yeah, that would have crashed. Yeah exactly.

607
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.880
So did you hear anything, No, it was nothing, and no

608
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:27.920
car. If somebody's the other thing
is it's cobblestone out there, somebody's walking

609
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:30.400
with a light or something, or
a car or cars were allowed down that

610
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:35.760
ship. Yeah, every time your
dad walked on that if we were in

611
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:38.679
that room, I heard him sound. Yeah, there was no sound it

612
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:43.960
was And and not to mention,
it wasn't like you know, you could

613
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.039
see car lights go by all day. This is not what we saw.

614
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:51.280
The light entered and filled the room
and swept by like it was scanning.

615
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.800
Like you just said that that was
the best way to It was like we

616
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:59.480
were illuminated in the room for that
moment. Yeah, so you know something

617
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:07.519
from beyond. Yeah. I never
was able to put rational thought to whatever

618
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:12.760
that was. So um. Yeah. And and you saying what you said

619
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:19.119
about like analyzing being analytical, it's
you're you're a logic brain person. Would

620
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.639
you say, I think? So, yeah, you are you you always

621
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.519
have been, like you know,
and like I you know, I can

622
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:30.360
relate to that big time. But
like when you see something like that that's

623
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:35.320
completely inexplicable, it challenges every bit
of that logic. You're like, you're

624
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.719
you're going through a list in your
mind. Yeah, it's not this,

625
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:38.960
it's not this, it's not this, it's not this. It takes years

626
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:44.119
to unpack. Yeah, and it
dead It took years for you to really

627
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:49.000
be like, I just I don't
have any conventional explanation as to what that

628
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:55.119
could be. Honestly, that's that's
awe inspiring enough, just that you have

629
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:59.440
gone through everything that you could think
it could possibly be, and it's like,

630
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:01.639
well, it's definitely this is how
the beings work. I decided it

631
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:09.440
was a blimp. Okay, oh
okay, this is how the beings work.

632
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.239
This is why I wanted this.
This is why I wanted this story

633
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.039
to be shired so badly, because
it's just another testimony to the m of

634
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:21.679
these beings. What they do is
they give you some fantastic display, you

635
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:23.599
know, and when when you're at
the level of like our family and seeing

636
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:27.840
and then being a daily part of
your life, you know, seeing them

637
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.760
in the sky, that's enough.
But for someone who's you know, going

638
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:32.760
to be initiated into understanding what these
beings are, like you you were seeing

639
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:37.199
the light scanned shit, whatever,
they give you some sort of display where

640
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:39.719
you're like, you might not one
hundred percent know exactly what it is,

641
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.320
but you're you're, you're you have
that thousand yards stare. You're like,

642
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:47.119
I don't know what that was.
I cannot explain yet was that so that

643
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:52.519
the first like experience you would say, I want to say, yeah,

644
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:58.119
I don't. I don't. My
memory is not great. I've been around

645
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:04.679
them, like obviously you're years and
having conversations with Chris Senior about yeah,

646
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.719
in the red room in particularly other
orbs and things like that sense right,

647
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:09.239
Yeah, I mean I've had some
things that, like, you know,

648
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:15.599
I'd be looking outside of my binoculars
and I would see this light that was

649
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:19.719
doing some crazy non plane stuff and
non satellite stuff. I don't know what

650
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:23.000
a satellite that can stop and turn
a second's notice, just outside look just

651
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:27.000
for whatever reason, looking at the
sky with my buyos and saw that,

652
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:29.880
and I was like, well,
that's weird. Were you by yourself?

653
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:35.079
I was by myself. Yeah,
I was just like you really feel those

654
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.039
I saw like three in that night
too. So like satellites are either like

655
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:42.719
grouping together and turning on a dime
or or you know, something weird is

656
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:44.719
going on. Yeah, dude,
there was one time we were at your

657
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.760
placing. There was some stuff knocking
over in the other room. Remember oh

658
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:52.360
Man at his place, So stuff
was just knocking over, like noise.

659
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:57.000
I don't remember that. I do
remember being in upstairs in my room and

660
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.679
hearing footsteps. Oh so okay,
I lie, this is earlier. Um,

661
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.360
I was in my room. You
remember my old house set up,

662
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.480
So you've got like the up stairs
and it's got the h the hallway,

663
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.559
bathroom, and then there's like anop
sc room at the other end of this

664
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:14.960
year yeah, and a weird l
shape hallway that goes into the kitchen and

665
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:16.800
then the garage on the other side. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that

666
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:21.719
was downstairs. That's yeah, okay, so yeah upstairs. You're not talking

667
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:22.719
about the one your mom and I
live it now, right, No,

668
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.440
we're talking about your white Horse Court
like you never even said, oh yeah,

669
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:30.079
no, that would make sense.
Yeah, nick's never been I don't

670
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:31.280
care. We're talking about the house
there anyway. So like the one we

671
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:34.679
grew up in, you almost described
it to it to you though, like

672
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.360
it's weird, it's similar, it's
very similar. My parents loved that house.

673
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:38.320
They didn't want to sell it.
They actually wanted to keep that same

674
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:44.480
floor planet move it. But it
costed hundreds of thousands of dollars to move

675
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:49.000
the whole house. But anyways,
that doesn't matter. Um, at the

676
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.239
old house, it was your staircase
that went up and then to the right

677
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.519
did this weird l shape to the
bedroom, and then to the left it

678
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:59.280
was a hallway all right, and
you go straight and it opens up into

679
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:00.960
a living room. So it was
a huge bonus room upstairs. Yeah.

680
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:05.679
Huge, it's not even a second
floor. It's so one point five because

681
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.679
it has the angled ceilings. Sounds
exactly like the house they live in now,

682
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:13.320
Like like your room was kind of
like that big the upstairs it was

683
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:15.760
bigger though, yeah, like the
bonus three times big. Yeah, it

684
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:19.119
was much bigger. It was huge. And so at the end was my

685
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.920
bedroom, and I had this corner
desk, and then to the left of

686
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:27.920
that corner desk was the door to
go into the living room. And I'm

687
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.800
talking to somebody on AOL it's the
Messenger or some shit, and I hear

688
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:37.559
somebody walking upstairs and my little brother
Lee shout out Lee, and I love

689
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.039
you too, Lee. We go
golfing a lot. It's sick, Yeah,

690
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:44.960
got him into it accidentally, I
say a lot, but I wish

691
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:49.360
we can go more. Anyways,
So I thought it was him walking down

692
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:52.119
the hall and I saw like,
so the door was open, So you

693
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.400
could see a crack and I saw
this shadow move through and I look back.

694
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.480
I looked back to see if he
had walked in sting. You know,

695
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:04.159
you remember that scary stories of telling
the Dark book where you see the

696
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.719
footsteps in the ceiling they're pushing through. Remember that old story. Yeah,

697
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.440
I get the concept. Well,
I thought I heard there was footsteps,

698
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:14.480
and I looked at check for the
footsteps. There was nothing. I was

699
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:21.119
like, what, I'm going to
bed. This is scary. So I'm

700
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:23.599
playing my game boy. Yeah there
was the nineties. I'm gonna throw the

701
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:28.280
blanket over my head with my little
game boy advanced the little light yeah,

702
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:30.199
the external light yeah yeah, and
then play Pokemon Yellow. So like,

703
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:34.559
so I closed the door. I
was like, I'm going to bed.

704
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.199
Whoever I was talking to on aim
and then I went to freaking bed,

705
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.519
dude, like I just like a
classic horror movie blanket over your head,

706
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:43.960
just like, oh I did that
quite a bit. Yeah, shadow,

707
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.199
I saw something. It was.
It was weird, man, I've seen

708
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:51.000
it. I've seen like a figure
of a shadow across the wall. Like

709
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:53.599
it was like, it's bad.
It's a little crack man. So it's

710
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:59.599
hard to say a humanoid figure,
but like there was a crack and you

711
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:01.920
know, it walked. It looked
like something walked by, and I was

712
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:06.639
like, oh, what's up Lee. By the way, Lee at this

713
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.519
point would have been like like five, six, seven years old, and

714
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.519
his bedroom was on the complete opposite
side of the house downstairs. Yeah,

715
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:15.920
it was on the same side of
the house down stair r r right,

716
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.719
but it was so far away.
You had to walk all the way through

717
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.280
the house, all the way around
just to get to that room, which

718
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.480
was like directly Bene, which is
still Baly was the last person possible to

719
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:30.440
have just I'm right here right,
Yeah, Yeah, that's so plot twist.

720
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:37.079
It was not Lee. I think
it was me. Yeah, Ryan

721
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.280
had walked from whatever for some reason. You always had two twin beds in

722
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.599
that room. Remember how many nights
when I'd be like, like, my

723
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.519
parents are Jamaica or some shit,
and I'm standing with you for a week.

724
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:49.320
I'm like during school, elementary school. And there was one night we

725
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.440
got in trouble man, we almost
got our asses beat by your dad because

726
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.880
all night we almost we stayed up
all night playing Game Boy, we played

727
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:00.159
we played Pokemon all night and we
had to school the next morning, came

728
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:05.880
up there. You remember this.
I remembered it being Sonic Adventure, but

729
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:09.239
it might have been. It might
have been. I remembered it being Sonic

730
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:13.679
Adventure for the Dreamcast, dude.
No, I'm talking first specifically this night

731
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:15.159
we were we were because you had
two twin bedrooms. Yeah yeah, and

732
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.880
we were in there playing our game
boys and being like hiding into the covers

733
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.760
room. Oh yeah, yeah,
I got I got in trouble for that

734
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:27.000
a lot, lea a lot.
Yeah. Lee used to take upstairs like

735
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:30.239
the Grants still in Christmas and uh
he went upstairs and would just hide and

736
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:32.920
like they could hear every movie.
And that's so that's so like that's such

737
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:37.960
a dumb because his bedroom is right
beside theirs. Yeah, not that Lee's

738
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.559
dumb, but like what kids think
they're so smart, you know, you

739
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:47.639
know, we never got away with
it, definitely try. And the funniest

740
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:53.960
part is his bedroom was directly above
their uh their bedrooms. Dude. The

741
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:58.079
main thing that we got in trouble
for ninety nine percent at the time was

742
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:01.679
just like walking up there. So
like imagine like these parents are like laying

743
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:12.480
in bed and oh yeah, and
their hands get You could drop a wallet

744
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.400
and they'd hear it. Dude.
It was so sensitive and they would hear

745
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.960
everything. That can't sleep it's light. It'd be like eight o'clock. Yeah,

746
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.639
dude, it was crazy. It
got to the point I even walking

747
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:24.760
down the stairs. It was just
yelling up there, settles down. Yeah.

748
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.599
I had this lazy jade chair,
dude, and like if you leave,

749
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.320
remember that had the chair. Yeah, I headed the base on because

750
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:37.280
if you leaned back, it would
make a clack noise. Oh dude,

751
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:42.119
I'm having like traumatic flat. It
was in it was in that chair that

752
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:45.079
I became one of the world's best
soul caliber four players. That I was

753
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:49.800
in the hospital. Yeah, I
was staying in your room at your house

754
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.719
for a week while you were dying
in the hospital. And what's it pan,

755
00:49:54.320 --> 00:50:00.079
that's right, yeah, Blu literally
explode. It literally rupts your in

756
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:05.280
his body. It was like that
scene from a New Hope. Yeah.

757
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.960
Yeah, it's awesome. I mean
summer so I didn't have school, Yeah,

758
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.559
so weak, it was what was
your man? It was like the

759
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:16.719
nunchuck guy. Oh yeah, it's
like MAXI, Yeah, MAXI. Yeah,

760
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:21.320
I'm slick with the nunchucks. Yeah, dude, guy, I love

761
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.440
that guy. I used The Apprentice
and just like zap people lightning. I

762
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:30.000
love that one. Weird guy like
this. Oh yeah, I was gonna

763
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.639
say I was like the car,
like the car. Yeah. Yeah,

764
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:37.119
he's a weirdo. Man. He's
like as a finger blades. Yeah,

765
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:40.000
and he's got blades on his fingers
like Freddy Krueger. He's scary. Are

766
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:44.679
there, um, Are there any
other like significant sightings or anything like that

767
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:46.679
in that nature, like maybe you've
had a dad or otherwise that you can

768
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:52.119
recall. I don't recall. I
know recently you you it was like just

769
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.679
a casual night, you did some
you saw some horms with dad. I'm

770
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:59.119
pretty sure in the last several months, it's possible. Dude. My memory

771
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:01.199
is horrible. It's also so common, it's okay. Yeah. Yeah.

772
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:06.119
Like the last thing I remember was
I had my Vinos and this was like

773
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.199
last year, and I saw like
three join some crazy maneuvers. Dude,

774
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:12.480
that's that one you were talking about. Yeah, that's that's the most weird

775
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:15.559
recent one I remember. But I
mean, obviously we know I've seen him

776
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:17.559
with your dad before. Oh dude, yeah, you you at this point,

777
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:21.519
you can't go over there without seeing
them. Yeah, it's every time

778
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.360
cool. You got everything off your
chest. We're approaching an hour. Oh

779
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:30.639
yeah, it really goes crazy.
That's that's why I was trying to like

780
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.159
my experience. No, it's good, it's good. We'd like to have

781
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:37.280
our guests an opportunity to say something
to the whole world if they imagine the

782
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.880
whole world's listening. But I already
know what yours is going to be.

783
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:45.559
What do you think you never answered? Which was better Sonic to already I'll

784
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:49.679
listen. I was going to ignore
that, and then you can't and we're

785
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:54.239
not gonna end this until you well
okay, so fine to redeem your point.

786
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:58.960
Yeah yeah, yeah, to get
to that nice base zero okay,

787
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:02.559
Dad would say bass news. So
if I had to choose, I would

788
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:06.840
simply choose they'alla too. Due to
longevity, I would have been really mad

789
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:08.639
if you didn't. Yeah, I
know, because it's been out longer.

790
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:12.400
But like Sonic Too with Jim Carrey
was like she was so good. It

791
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.960
was nostalgic. It was we watched
it like so I watched it by myself,

792
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.639
and I was like, this is
legendary. And then I begged y'all

793
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:22.119
to watch it with me, and
it turns out that y'all were in town

794
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.519
I think, so y'all watched it
with me anyways, and it was freaking

795
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:30.199
amazing. Yeah, it was awesome. And oh, can you sit right

796
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:32.000
here, and y'all don't end the
recording. Seriously, I'm gonna do something

797
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.480
out of the box. Go for
it. Sure, just keep talking about

798
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:39.079
you're gonna go put on a Sonic
costume, tell me more about Sonic whenever.

799
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:44.480
That's right. I totally forgot that
you and I was sitting between you

800
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:46.239
and Ryan, I think that's right. And I was like, guys,

801
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:52.159
look they did that you know the
way joke? What? Oh yeah yeah.

802
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:53.400
Jim Carrey was like, and I
know the way or something like that.

803
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:58.800
And ironically, like thoroughly loved that
movie. And also and like,

804
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.239
I know, you know, you're
not super into mystical stuff and like esoteric

805
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:09.639
history and all that, but like
that movie is strangely dripping with mystical stuff,

806
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:14.440
Like I mean, I guess kind
of Sonic is in general. I

807
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:16.760
mean, you got chaos emeralds.
Yeah, I mean there's literally magic crystals

808
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:22.400
that they transform and turned into Golden
Body from doing But like that movie particularly,

809
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:27.159
there were quotes, there were there
was like symbolism, there's all kinds

810
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:30.800
of stuff in the movie that was
like hyper hyper obviously spiritual. This is

811
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:37.199
hilarious. Whoa. First of all, Yo, is this literally sonic of

812
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:42.119
knuckles? Yeah? What this is
crazy? Show the camera? Can they

813
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:44.599
see me right now? I've I've
been holding this for a long time.

814
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:47.440
I got these in Germany. Oh
dude, I used to take German.

815
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.199
I know, I took five years. As you read it, it's German.

816
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:53.760
Okay, it's in German. I
bought him in Germany. That's awesome.

817
00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:59.000
For Germany. You're gonna put on
bed not I'm Germany. I'm just

818
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:05.039
saying I got the tongue. I
don't know what that means. I forgot.

819
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:08.679
I'm Charman Sonic pez candy. Yeah, I just oh shit, he's

820
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:14.000
here for the first time. I
had to go that's crazy. I did

821
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:15.960
want to. Uh, we don't
got too. I was gonna just talk

822
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:21.199
about plants. Please. That'll take
too much time. No, it won't.

823
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:24.199
It would go for we go over
a little Uh well, um,

824
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:29.119
you kind of expand on the whole
nature and the plants thing. We kind

825
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:32.159
of like touched on the vegetables and
whatnot. But I ended up getting like

826
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:37.440
even more obsessed with plants when something
happened last year or two years ago,

827
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:45.079
and uh so, um my aunt
allowed me to use her greenhouse and uh

828
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:49.920
well it's you know, our grandma's
greenhouse, but our aunt. Yeah yeah,

829
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:58.679
all three of our aunts. So
yeah, how dare you? I

830
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:02.000
was talking? So um yeah,
I ended up I ended up getting like

831
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:09.639
super obsessed with it and growing like
NC native wild flowers to attract endangered populations

832
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:15.079
of bees and whatnot, or becoming
endangered. They're not endangered yet, but

833
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:20.559
um yeah, I would plant all
sorts of stuff like scarlet bee balm um

834
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:25.360
uh freaking purple passion flower stuff like
that ashion flower. That's what I was

835
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:30.000
like. Yeah, I sent you
some passion flower leaves. We ended up

836
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.400
making it into tea. How was
it? It was awesome, dude.

837
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:37.360
You can also this is actually like
kind of taste great. I did one

838
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:39.599
where I put I ground up some
of the leaves and put it into green

839
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:43.119
tea. Yeah, and it was
really good. And I was like,

840
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:45.320
I wanna know what this tastes like
on its own so I had to like

841
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:49.840
get it down to like a really
fine powder, but like you know,

842
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:52.800
with one of those like little spice
blenders. Yeah, yeah, I use

843
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:57.119
that's cool. And then and then
I filtered it through um, cheesecloth.

844
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:01.039
Dude, that's sick. It was
delicious. So passion flower, the leaves

845
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:04.840
in the in the flowers, you
can obviously, like you just said,

846
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.599
turn into a tea and something A
lot of people don't know which that's one

847
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:12.800
of them. But you can also
take the leaves, dehydrate them and smoke

848
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:19.920
them and it'll have a sort of
medicinal effect that like helps um alleviate anxiety.

849
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:22.880
Same with drinking the tea. It
helps all alleviate anxiety. I mean,

850
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:28.079
there's a there's a warning that says
potential poison effect, so bear that

851
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:30.920
in mind. But I mean,
but hey, look, I'll poison myself

852
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:34.920
if it gets rid of my anxiety. Yeah, it's it's super like inefficial.

853
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.719
I mean, like shrooms basically poisons
exact so I mean the grain of

854
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:44.519
salt that but um, you could
also take like the fruit called a maypop

855
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:46.400
and then make jelly out of it
and whatnot. So that's super cool.

856
00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:50.400
But I did that was kind of
like a cool side effect. But I

857
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:52.440
usually I did it because it was
a host plant for various different caterpillars.

858
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:57.639
And uh, I grew a lot
of NC native wild flowers because like I

859
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:00.199
like having honey bees around and whatnot, but like I try to folk on

860
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.480
the NC natives. Yeah, but
tells the world why why you hate honeybees

861
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:08.639
and you want them all to die? Well, they're they're technically invasive.

862
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:14.480
This is always every time I see
Warren, he goes, Yo, you

863
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:19.440
know honey bees are technically invasive.
Yea, but it's illegal. Yeah,

864
00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:22.599
yeah, it's I think it's literally
a federal crime to kill honeybees, Like

865
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.639
you have to get somebody to relocate
them. But when you stay invasive,

866
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.639
what exactly do you mean by that? Um, well, they're not even

867
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:31.280
native here. Uh, they came
from Europe, so it's like the European

868
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:35.119
honeybee. It's like eight my camera. Wait a minute, what's your favorite

869
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:37.800
kind of bee? Oh that's a
hard question. I love honey Just first

870
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:45.800
answer to comes to mind solitary sweat
bees. Mind probably Boo Ryan like the

871
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:51.400
boobies. He loved the boothe ide. It took me a second dang it.

872
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.519
Yeah, Um, I like solitary
bees like leaf cutters or sweat bees

873
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:59.639
or whatnot. Because what makes honey
bees invasive that it's that they're not they're

874
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:02.280
not, so it's not necessarily that
you have something called an introduced species,

875
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:06.440
which, um, that's a different
thing. But like when you have invasive

876
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.400
species, it means that they outcompete
your native species of bees. So they'll

877
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:15.320
they'll do things like, um,
they'll guard a flower head to prevent other

878
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:19.880
bees from pollinating it or gathering pollen
or whatever to make honey. However that

879
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:22.719
works. I don't freaking know.
I'm not a bee specialist, but uh,

880
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:31.159
but it's like the jets and the
sharks what oh, so scrapping on

881
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:36.039
the on the flower. I mean
it's pretty much that they'll literally guard a

882
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.599
flower head to prevent other bees from
hitting it. And also I don't understand

883
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:45.000
it what you mean like going there
and taking that pollen, taking that pollen,

884
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:47.360
boy? And uh. Another thing
they do is if they land on

885
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:51.760
a flower, Um, other bees
will know that they landed on the flower

886
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:53.559
and they won't even go visit it. If a honey bee lands, Yeah,

887
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:58.440
it's some like pheromone stuff. I
don't. There's no honey bees native

888
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:01.559
to North America, not a single
one really. Yeah, it's it's all

889
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:06.320
overseas like European modes. So everyone
that's here now, which I mean there's

890
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:09.719
tons, they call it. They
call them skycows because it's it's dumb.

891
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:16.480
But I mean they call them skycows
because it's like because they with cow sting

892
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:22.960
you, they die. I want
to honestly commission you to make me some

893
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:27.400
like elderberry mead. Whoa, that'd
be kind of sick. But I don't

894
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:30.239
know how to make mean, look
at up, dude, don't you make

895
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:37.440
your own I'm not. I'm the
taker. Yeah, but I'll do it

896
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:39.679
script, I'll figure it out.
I'll have a honeybee farmer to make you

897
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:45.599
meade honey bee farm. No,
because I haven't pervasive, right, I'm

898
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:50.519
too conscious, Like I'm too conscious
of like my surroundings. Like I don't

899
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:52.920
want to put anything in the yard
that's gonna like spread over like English ivy

900
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:55.920
for example, people playing their yard
don't get it. They don't get it

901
00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:00.760
contained, and it'll spread off and
like destroy ecosystems and whatnot. So how

902
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:06.559
I'm plant your kudzuo. It's kind
of like a North Carolina thing. Yeah,

903
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:08.719
you don't by not doing it.
Yeah, by not doing absolutely not.

904
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:13.039
That's from Japan, right, I
think it's China. China, it

905
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.320
was Japan. I thought it was, Well, it might be Japan,

906
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:16.559
but listen, I don't know.
I just know it's not from here.

907
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:20.639
And it spreads like wildfire. Yeah, it's it's crazy. Where in the

908
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:24.559
South, it's like specifically like North
and South Carolina and Georgia. On the

909
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:28.480
coast. Yeah. Yeah, on
the coast, there's like there's this stuff

910
01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:35.039
called kudzu, and it's this crazy
weed. It's invasive, very dream like.

911
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:37.920
Yeah, it strangles out everything.
Miles and miles. They call them

912
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:42.159
desert. They call him ivy desert. Yeah, it's because they're so cool

913
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:45.719
too. It looks freaking cold,
dude. It's I love driving down like

914
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:50.079
miles of highway and just seeing kadzuo. It's called an ivy desert because it

915
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.239
chokes out everything beneath it and all
that's left is the desert. So if

916
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:55.400
you pulled up the desert, all
you see is like sand and stuff.

917
01:00:55.480 --> 01:01:02.800
Nothing grows there because it chokes everything
out. It's like earthly evil. If

918
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:06.639
any of you have watched or played
The Last of Us and see all the

919
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:09.360
stuff growing on, covering all the
buildings, all the that's what cuts.

920
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:14.239
It looks like. Yeah, it's
like it cuts. You can develop a

921
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:19.119
building in like crazy, like a
matter of a few days. It's extremely

922
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.199
it's kind of like a crisis,
like it's absolutely invasive. Not technically,

923
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:27.960
it's one hundred percent. Yeah.
Yeah, honey bees are only technically because

924
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:31.519
gotch they out compete and save the
honey bees. Kill the kudzu, um

925
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:36.400
neither all right, kill the cud
of me mixing, kill the kudzu and

926
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:43.079
the don't kill him. It's a
charge, just like give him a stern

927
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:47.199
talking to Yeah, yeah, you
just you just you roll up on him

928
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:52.679
and you give him a sun talking
to. This this is a like spiritual

929
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:55.880
podcast, and we talk about some
out there stuff. But I think the

930
01:01:55.960 --> 01:02:00.599
most hottest take we've ever had is
killed honey bees. Don't kill them.

931
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:07.480
We condemn sacrifice. Justin you're saying, you're saying, don't kill the honey

932
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:09.840
bees. You're saying, call ice
on the honeybees. Not only that,

933
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:15.199
but step into the hot, step
into the hive and let them all sting

934
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:20.199
you so that they kill themselves because
then you're not responsible, right, but

935
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:22.840
then you throw up from on the
venom. Yeah, that that definitely happened

936
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:28.599
in your honeybee. Man. They're
pretty they're pretty cool, but I don't

937
01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:40.280
want them in my yard. Put
up a big fence. Oh dude,

938
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:43.239
I don't know if you discussed this
because I walked out of the room.

939
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:45.320
I think you were talking about sonic
but we were, so you never really

940
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:50.119
mentioned the whole reason you were cultivating
all the caterpillars. So your your yard

941
01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:54.360
is now an officially registered Oh yeah, I so it's it's kind of like

942
01:02:54.559 --> 01:03:02.880
it's a registered on the Butterfly Highway
in North Carolina Wildlife butterflies. Yeah,

943
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:07.159
he has a sign. Dude,
he has an actual North Carolina officiated sign.

944
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:12.079
And what kind of butterflies? Um, well, that's a loaded question.

945
01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:15.960
I've got. Well, I can't
believe you'd asked me that. Yeah,

946
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:21.400
that's a loaded question. Yeah,
I've got monarch, have monarchs?

947
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:23.800
Yeah? You have milkweed back there? Yeah, absolutely you. I've got

948
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:29.360
swamp milkweed, butterfly milkweed. Um, I've got a non native tropical milkweed.

949
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:31.800
Um. I was trying to get
something called red ringed milkweed, which

950
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:36.880
is freaking sick but super hard to
locate. Um. Is milkweed just a

951
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:39.519
thing with monarchs or oh, common
milkweed I don't have, but so it

952
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:45.480
is monarchs primarily host on milkweed.
I think it's the only thing they host

953
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:50.159
on. There's some you know,
if if they're starving, they might you

954
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:52.280
know, get something else, but
it's unlikely. Yeah. But um,

955
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:58.119
you I've got like three different varieties
of milkweed. Um. No other butterflies

956
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:00.760
are attracted to the milk weed in
that way. Well, there's something called

957
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:05.920
the milkweed. I think it's the
two sock milkweed moth caterpillar. Is that

958
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:12.639
two pop milk? Yeah? They
they host on it too. There's I

959
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:15.719
think there's various different insects that host
on milkweeds. But as far as what's

960
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:21.519
in your backyard, the only um
is a butterfly and insects. Yeah,

961
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:26.199
I think so, okay, the
only insect that interacts with the milkweed or

962
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:30.400
the monarchs I have, Well,
I have I have milkweed, beetles.

963
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:33.320
Um. I have all sorts of
different hosts, like things hosting on my

964
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:38.360
milkweed. You have like a managerie. I don't know what that means.

965
01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:41.320
Just like a bunch of freaking animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

966
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:45.320
got a zoo back there. Let's
I gotta insect zoo. Yeah. And

967
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.760
I have various different caterpillars hosting on
the passion flower. I do it because

968
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:50.679
like nature. I don't know,
I man like. I guess it is

969
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:55.800
spiritual in a way. Hey,
what's your what's your instagram? Plug that?

970
01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:59.039
Yeah? He has an Instagram devoted
to like taking photos about the wild

971
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:00.800
life in the yard. Yeah,
I think, I honestly don't remember.

972
01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:03.920
I think it's uh, I can
look it up for you, NC NC

973
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:10.679
native NC native flower or something.
It's NC native wildflower. Oh yeah you

974
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:13.639
did recently. I was wondering if
you knew that was me. Um.

975
01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:17.280
I think it's NC native flower native
flower. That's what it is, NC

976
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:21.239
native flower all lowercase, all one
word. Yeah and love. He has

977
01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:25.400
really really cool, pretty much backyard
botanist. I pretty much don't know what

978
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:27.800
I'm doing. I'm just like bugs
and plants, and it's like hyper vivid

979
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:31.000
photos of all of them he has
cultivated in his yard and his beautiful show

980
01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:34.119
look, here's the butterfly Highway sign
sent to him by the state. Yeah,

981
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:38.079
it's pretty. I think it's sweet. It's incredible. Yeah. You

982
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:42.480
know what else? Uh, you're
you're really good at the photography aspect too.

983
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:45.559
Yeah. I try to be wed. I got a mic by the

984
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:51.119
state NC Wildlife Resource Commission. I
uh or that's wildlife. Oh hold on,

985
01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:59.199
very first picture on your page is
none other than by yourself. That's

986
01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:01.480
are you a change man? That's
a sweat beat? That okay, yeah,

987
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:06.599
that's not a honeybee's on site.
That's yeah, that's one I bring

988
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:10.719
out. I bring out my little
salt gun and get you got one of

989
01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:15.519
those. But now they know wine
doesn't kill bugs. I don't even kill

990
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:17.000
honey bees. I just give him
a stern talking to you. Yeah,

991
01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:26.280
he doesn't ki behave behave yeah yeah, so uh yeah that was a NC

992
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:30.960
native bee on an NC native flower. Thank you you got me lance Lee's

993
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:33.440
coreopsis. Oh yeah, I did
say that, I can confirm. Yeah,

994
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:39.760
So it's I don't know, it's
like kind of like my way of

995
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:43.960
connection to nature. I like the
idea of like cultivating life, and that's

996
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:45.800
kind of why I do it.
So I mean, I think it's freaking

997
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:49.360
cool. It is. It's so
awesome. Like I'm not kidding when I

998
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:53.760
say every time you send us it
like pictures of your garden and it's coming,

999
01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:57.840
it makes me so happy. I
actually have an NC native jasmine and

1000
01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:00.480
I took a photo of in my
phone, right, I sent a group

1001
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:04.519
chat because it's not time and I've
got bloom. Yeah, yeah, it's

1002
01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:08.960
the blooming now, but it's not
in full bloom yet. It's a it's

1003
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.000
a plant. I think it's called
a Carolina jasmine. I don't know if

1004
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:14.239
that's a cultivar or not, but
it's supposed to be Inncy native um as

1005
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.239
the name suggests. You remember Dennis
the Menace when he had that rare flower

1006
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:19.639
that blooms like one night a year. Oh, is it like the like

1007
01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:23.679
a party over it? Is it
the red? I don't know. There's

1008
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:27.159
there's one flower that basically bloom.
It's it blooms two nights a year.

1009
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:30.760
It's Japanese native. It's called the
hell flowers. I've seen that. Yeah,

1010
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:32.199
of course it's a hell flower.
Of course, that's why it was

1011
01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:35.519
one of my favorite flowers. It's
uh, it's it's common name is hell

1012
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:41.079
flower or a red spider lily.
Yeah, remember that he had that party

1013
01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:44.679
over the floor, like the exotic
flower blooming and then Dennis being a little

1014
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:46.840
menace. He is like totally ruined
the party, like fucked up the flower.

1015
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:51.199
It's a good movie. I actually
don't remember it. I don't remember.

1016
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:56.400
I love I remember that for some
reason, that movie. I've seen

1017
01:07:56.480 --> 01:08:03.079
it a thousand times, but I
don't remember which we did Apple. That's

1018
01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:05.960
right, I got that from You're
just like quoting the whole movie. Now

1019
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:09.880
this is now the Dennis the Menace. Yeah, let's do an episode on

1020
01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:14.440
Dennis the Menace. I love Dennis. We're gonna do a SpongeBob episode two

1021
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:16.479
apparently, Damn, I gotta watch
an episode. Yeah we are, Yes,

1022
01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:20.079
So it's funny. He said that. Me and Lee, Uh,

1023
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:26.159
we had an episode that we quoted
like all the time, SpongeBob. SpongeBob.

1024
01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:29.359
It was our favorite. We need
the whole freaking episode. Which episode

1025
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:31.199
I don't remember. You don't remember
any of it. I remember it was

1026
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:38.479
something like liar liar plants for plants
for SpongeBob was like pants on fire.

1027
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:42.359
Patrick, So like me and Leo
like alternate lines, and we do that

1028
01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:45.680
with the Star Wars episode three two, it'd be like, you're my brother

1029
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:49.920
Annakin, I loved you, and
Lee would be like, I was just

1030
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:55.119
role playing killing each other. Yeah, it's pretty Yeah, we can't do

1031
01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:58.520
it in real life, so might
as well pretend we love Oh yeah,

1032
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:01.159
pretending to murder each other would like, oh, I got two lights.

1033
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:04.359
Anyways, it's over over a river
of lava. What is it with you

1034
01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:08.520
in lava on fire? Yeah?
It moves too far from it three Yeah,

1035
01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:11.520
it was my favorite planet Star Wars
eurse. It was. That's crazy,

1036
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.159
dude. I'm noticing a trend here. Yeah, I am too.

1037
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:17.079
We've revealed a lot here in this
episode tonight. It's been a good sight

1038
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:23.680
sash. Yeah, well, I
feel like we're over an hour. Um,

1039
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:26.920
anything else you want to get off
your chest before we do? Yeah?

1040
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.640
This mucus? Yeah, muse next, dude, Um, I don't

1041
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:34.119
think so. Hell yeah, you
enjoy yourself. That was It was awesome.

1042
01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:38.600
Sweet. I totally was like,
I'm gonna botch this somehow. Yeah.

1043
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:42.319
You think bad about everything and then
you're cautious optimism. You're great at

1044
01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:45.680
like everything you do. That's not
true? Whatever? Shut up. All

1045
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:47.199
right, we're gonna you know how
we end the episode right bye, guys,

1046
01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:51.319
all right, we're gonna do it. Ready, three two one by

1047
01:09:54.319 --> 01:10:09.439
Weird things happened in the backyard to
send. It was so weird coming closer

1048
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:19.920
to player's industry, like spiraling on
the inside of it. No one knows.

1049
01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:45.439
Wow, let's come right over time. Shide ain't Camp.

