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Sorry trying this name. And you
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up. Well if you sent this
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I just kept it for everything.
I just screwed it up because this is

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obviously the USA two And uh it's
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do? I like him? What
weapons it happens? What's up? Everybody?

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Welcome to Challenge the podcast all about
the Challenge this time around on CBS.

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I am being of a Sweet Tea, joined in person in studio by

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whoever wants to go first, Carl
and San Diego. I drove a whopping

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seven hours to get down here.
Yeah, Zachie Bananas closely related to our

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third place finisher, Johnny Bananas.
I'm Alison Zach's girlfriend. I drove five

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hours man, Yeah, and all
over from all over the country driving here.

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Yeah. The voice that we are
missing tonight is mister Woolford himself.

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Yeah, who would have had to
drive about six miles to show up tonight.

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But he has a sore throat,
so he is not feeling well.

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He texted us at six forty five
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feeling well. We have kept in
contact all day and he's not here tonight.

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Yeah, but we had fun without
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We had a great day. Yeah, we really did. It was

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thank you to the patrons. We
used all of that cash to take us

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out to do axe throwing in celebration
of this finale and the ax throwing portion

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of it we did. We did
an escape room which we won, which

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is exciting. We won the escape
rooms. Yeah, went out to a

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steakhouse for dinner. It's amazing.
Alson is saying best takes she's ever had?

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Was it really all good to hear? And we dined under Zach caught

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it. We dined under a portrait
of Christina of Challenge fame. Yes,

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we went to a steakhouse where all
the famous people. Yeah, and they

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come to Peoria and she's a stand
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fitting that we were by the challenge. I came her last name, Yeah,

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Christina from Road Rules down Under.
It's like a weird Polish name.

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It's like, yeah, Polenski or
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of it. So thank you very
much to all of the patrons. Patron

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patrons, patre Yeah, that's right, patrons. I just want a point,

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you know, like no shape to
Wolfy. But I'm pretty sure there

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was no delay between the start of
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Carlin's on it. I have also, I've been itching for the last

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few minutes to actually hit it.
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done? Are we done with the
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want to do it. What was
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the finale, I'm gonna get a
little shitty drunk tonight. So let's get

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excited about that, and we're gonna
take phone calls. But before we take

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phone calls, we're going to regroup
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it'll be a little bit more free
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totally free form. We're not going
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of gonna gonna wing it. Goose
Force wants enough. We think wolf he's

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actually sick or just faking No,
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too, But I also think that
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be both can okay, but he
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also don't want a sick person around
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tomorrow, and I really don't want
to do that sick. I told you

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that on the way home. I'm
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I want Wolf be here. Yeah, Like, I like the guy and

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I want him to help me co
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I don't want to get sick.
It's a bummer that he's not here.

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He would have brought his lovely lady
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a bummer that she's also not here, but I don't want to get sick,

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So he would have bought Margot.
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so I'm sure she will make noise
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Yeah, cases he can call in, Yes he can. I don't

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know she's planning to. We've gone
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She's saying that Wolf he could call
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which we discussed with the Wolf.
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calling in just doing the show from
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feeling well on enough for it,
so may he'll call him later just say

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hello. I hope he calls in
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texted us earlier, staying to call
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he'll just give an overview of his
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right, well we can do that. All right. Well, who wants

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to talk like the finale? First, Allison, was this your first Challenge

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finale? It was the first show
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went back and watched USA one.
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very poor showing of it. Yeah, told me that you're gonna hate the

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finale, and I was like,
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that's not like because she's like,
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see if it's something I want to
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I was like, please don't do
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the show again. Yeah, that
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the season until the final. Yeah, the season was great until the final

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and then the final half the people
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season's finale. And then I also
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technically third Allein, Yes, and
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bye, Yeah, I converted her. He was definitely not he was he

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was not great on the season.
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have grown up. And that's part
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in their twenties and then their forties. Yeah, they have kids and everything,

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which is kind of fun. Zach, what do you think of the

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final just generally this one? I
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about it. Everything about it.
One of the worst things. Yes,

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get out of here. I feel
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like the advantages in day two,
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They basically determine who wins. And
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bad ending to a great season.
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out. Kay, you are not
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it. No, I was telling
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oh, you're only feeling that way
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the advantages were too big. For
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one point two miles off of that's
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on a mountain, that's a long
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and a TV for two miles or
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huge Yeah. So let's do a
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because this is a recap podcast for
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whatnot. Starts off, they have
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that they get to play to try
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can double down for a two minute
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two minutes if you lose. If
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it's just one minute off, no
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that day there were five games that
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the eating challenge. That's when we
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that they went through. So they
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and by the end of it the
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things to pull out of it.
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down and lost, and then he
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He lost every round. Johnny Bananas
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he's got the advantage of two minutes
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else is up one minute. And
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I mean I I really liked the
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me. So anyway, real quick, they did day one and then they

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morning and did the actual finale,
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then we had the winner. And
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it today, but Chris pointed out
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challenge that got cut out. Yeah, yeah, we talked about that.

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Who wants to explain that this unseen
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for the first time today with you
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to us yesterday. So apparently Chris
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I don't know if it was the
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went on one of the of the
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an overnight challenge that we didn't see
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blocks or something and collectively as a
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to one hour and they had to
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hour and an hour and five minutes, and if they got it on the

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outside of either of those two numbers, they had to restart the count.

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And apparently that happened three times.
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sort of things. So that's why
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day. So there was an up
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who knows why I had no impact
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yeah, the only impact that it
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that Mikayla was she was she seemed
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anybody else. Yeah, I didn't
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of these finals is to be run
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end of them. So that's we
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we would have seen the up all
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I could have done with a two
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I think that's true. I complained
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ninety minutes on a finale when you
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I feel like it warrants an hour
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yeah, I think so two It
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me, Like a lot of the
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advantage of a minute or two minutes
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first. Qurey doubled down on and
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guy there. Yeah, but then
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nobody's screwed it up. That's bad. Yeah. I think Chris had a

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really good strategy on this of just
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and run with them, because then
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two and hopefully you'll beat ups of
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else is trying to pull three and
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and so they're automatically can go solo. So if you can take two and

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you can run faster than all of
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have to come back to get their
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I think that was a good gamble
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well, and I just like that
he had a strategy he just like in

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his talking head he's like, this
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not the strongest, so I have
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this. He reminded me a lot
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do something like that totally. And
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the challenge great well, Bananas didn't
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it's like the challenge greats figure this
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game and figure out, maybe the
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obvious. You've got to like sort
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really I thought that was really cool. Yep. I agree. The women

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just I don't know that there was
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Mikayla I think one, yeah,
Mikayla won that portion. I don't

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remember if there was Tory or Vessel
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win because it'll be really I think
it was feesty. It would be really

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embarrassing. Yep. And that oh
god, such shudd and frey to this

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episode and watching FESSI just yeah,
that was rate watching. Oh yes,

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better than watching Christmas. That's the
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I didn't mention. So the last
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the second checkpoint on the second day
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to the third checkpoint because there are
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right, okay, So first one
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was spelling spelling. Yeah, I
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They were like, does he made
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were necessarily hard? And does he
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double down on this, and like
these people are I don't know if this

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I mean, Zach and I were
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it'd be one thing if they were
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spell, but they were just you're
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standing in a field, standing in
a field, like, yeah, there's

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nothing, there's no stakes to this
game. Anti. Yeah, that's what

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Elizabeth in that chatroom says. A
spelling challenge for a final was lame.

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It was you know, I thought
I I did think it was lame at

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first, and then kind of thought
about it like, oh, okay,

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so these are just advantages on the
first day of things that you can have

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for the second day. And it
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but after how the second day went
and being that the advantages of the

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first day were kind of negated by
the advantages of the second day, Yeah,

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it riled me back up. A
little bit, but I didn't I

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didn't mind the like you get advantages
on the first day that will impact your

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second day. I didn't mind that
format, yeah, which has always been

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kind of an issue of the challenge, but we've talked about that before.

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How you get all these advantages on
day one then gives you like a thirty

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second head start. Well, yeah, I mean I feel like the one

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that everybody always comes back to is
the one where Kenny and Wes pulled like

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way ahead at one point in time. Yeah. Yeah, Kenny and West

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pulled way ahead, and then the
next day they had like a one minute

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head start or something like that,
finished like ninety minutes ahead of the next

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time. Yeah, one, and
that equated to a three minute head start

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day two, which is like super
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that is also part of this game
is that there is always there are always

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these is this game is never fair. There are always these ridiculous advantages that

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some people get that you shouldn't be
getting, and it has always been that

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way, but some of them just
feel a little bit more. There was

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that other one we had where Carl
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and then Car one because yeah,
like toad start or something yep,

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yep. So all that sucks,
but you know, then we got to

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eating. Then we got to eating. So the eating was they had a

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rice cracker with sabi on it.
They had a chili pepper truffle. They

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had a milkshake made out of not
really a shake made out of horseradish and

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sauer kraut, and then they had
was it tofu? I don't remember what

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the what the curd was. It
looked like it looked like with meal worms

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and something else in it. Were
we probably I wonder what would have happened

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it because I as this started,
I thought, Festy's not going to do

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any of this. Beess he finished
it. I couldn't believe, and quickly

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too. The second place on the
TJ gave him props for it too.

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I couldn't. But you think best
practiced this. I I think that it's

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so I had. Like we said
earlier, we have talked about We've been

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around each other for the last day
and a half, so this has come

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up in conversation a few times.
I don't feel like this eating challenge was

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that big of a deal like I
would have honestly happily eaten everything on those

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plates in comparison to what they've had
in previous seasons. Yeah, Like it

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wasn't milworms, and yeah, it's
all it's all food that you could find

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on in a normal America. Almost
everything in there is stuff that you could

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find in a normal American household.
It may not be combined in the same

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way, but it's there. I
don't have meal worms, but that might

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be the one thing that's not in
there. But like a lot of people

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have horseradish, a lot of people
have sauer kraut, a lot of people

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have chili peppers and chocolate, and
like, none of these things are completely

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of the norm. So I would
have very happily eaten every single thing on

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that on those plates, I would
have been standing there with Torri dancing along.

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Is that my stuff? I think
BESSI did alright, because it's it

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was real food. It wasn't a
cow's eye, or a pig's heart,

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or a lamb's brain or any of
these things that we've seen in previous seasons.

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Oh, Wolf, he's here.
Let's see if he actually joins.

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Let me see he's requesting. Let
me see if I can get him on.

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I wouldn't usually just I would have
just stood there, not ate any

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like, yeah, give me a
minute, I can make a minute up.

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Would they have to let you continue
if you didn't I see? I

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wonder if they would have given a
bigger disadvantage if they if you hadn't touched

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it. I don't know, Wolfy
say something. What's her face? Refused

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to do one of the challenges Overnight
Challenge was that last season? Yeah,

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and they just qualified her Angela.
Yeah, so you may have eaten something

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maybe. I mean, it seems
like whenever the top three finish, like

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they did what all the tasks,
the fourth person didn't have to complete it?

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So, yeah, that's true.
But I feel like, may I

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take in all of those? Yeah, in all of those they tried at

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least, so you would have had
to have it. I think you would

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have at least had to have tried. Yeah. The Angela thing last season

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was a big point of contention for
a lot of people because she they did

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try but then didn't, And for
a lot of people it was and for

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a lot of these games, it's
if you if you call it like,

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it doesn't look like she quit.
It looks like she just called it a

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night. I'm gonna take the twenty
minute penalty and go, which in previous

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seasons that hasn't been an issue.
So last season was its own last season

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of the of USA, it was
it's Ball of worms. Nel says it

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was a vegan eating challenge and that's
why toy did. Okay, but meal

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worms can't be vegan, right,
those are still no mealworms are definitely not

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vegan. Yeah, those are.
It seemed like it was live creatures at

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one point in time. Yeah,
and not all chocolate begin either, So

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I do think, yeah, if
it has milk and at it, they've

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made vegan exceptions for Tori. They
have clearly like vegan ice cream on one

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of these eating changes, and like
they and there's been other challenges when she

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has been paired with someone where her
partner. When she was paired with Devon,

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Devon took the eating challenges because it
included meat. Yeah, that's right.

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Yeah, So I wonder I wonder
too if fest he was just shamed

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in the off season for that one
season that oh my god, because he

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did not even he was so bad
at it that last season. So I

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wonder if part of it was just
like I can't do that again. I

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can't take like the backlash of people's
shaving. I'm sure it was, but

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I really do think a massive part
of it was that this is all real

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food quote unquote real food, right, Like it's it's stuff that you could

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find in Like you said, many
houses were throwing out though, so that

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was pretty Yeah, but I love
the throwing hilarious. You like that.

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Do you like the eating challenges to
throw I do, but probably not for

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the same reasons you like. I
like watching them trying to eat these ridiculous

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things. Yeah, because in my
head, it's the like, okay,

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so you have to eat this once. This is most of the time,

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it's a delicate not mostly a good
amount of the time. The food that

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they are eating, even though it's
really bizarre, it is a delicacy of

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that place. So like, there
are people who eat this, who have

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eaten this for many, many,
many, many many years. Yeah.

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Nothing though, if you're about to
eat it's tarantula or something, it's still

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a disgusting But yes, I love
the eating challenges that people seem torn.

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Whenever I read about the eating challenges
online, it's people hating on them.

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I love them personally, I can't
get enough. I would have an eating

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challenge every episode. The throwing up
is my favorite part. I laugh like

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a maniac. It is the funniest
thing in the world to me. But

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I think I wonder if the Eating
Lovers are just just a quieter bunch who

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don't express our love for you.
They just too much. I will gag,

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but it's hilarious. When I was
you like the eating challenges, I

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mean I did yesterday or I did
it for this one. Shit. I

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think I really liked the when they
panned over to Chris and Chris is said,

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like you've got his talking head of
like, yeah, I do really

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well. But then Cory's over here
just puking his guts out, and it

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pans to him and you see Chris
just like pluging along on this, and

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then all of a sudden, Cory
is just wretching in the corner and Chris

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goes, Cory, you can't do
it. Oh and Mikayla, I know

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I've said it a few to Mikayla
looks like a bullfrog. That her throat

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was like expand like it was just
like it was so funny. I was

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watching with Daisy, my daughter,
and I was just laughing to the point

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I couldn't breathe. I was just
like that silent laughing, you know when

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you're just like face turns beat read
and Daisy's just like, dad, what

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is wrong with you? I could
not contain myself. I just loved every

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second of this. I'm generally not
a big fan of eating challenges, but

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I do enjoy watching Tony eat.
Oh yeah, Tony's great, even though

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he doesn't bar if he's just like
oh man watching him house a bowl.

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Male, I I don't know that
my stomach will ever be right after that.

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You haven't thought of that. They
had a they had an eating challenge

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years ago where easily a pound of
mayo. Yeah, it was literally it

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was. It was a full cereal
bowl, like heaping cereal bowl of mayo,

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a spatula that you had to eat
the entire thing that makes me and

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he and Carl Maria ate it.
And he he got the nickname Tony time

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after that because and he ate like
four things in a row and just housed

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every single one of them. He
looked dead in the eyes that he didn't

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bar, but his eyes were just
like dead, like there's just no life

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anymore. I don't know. I
don't know. You might have barred when

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he got back to the house or
something. But Mayo, like I like

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mayo and a sandwich, but it's
a thin light Mayo and a bowl.

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It's just yeah, I'll pass,
all right. So was that it for

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the qualifier? So is that one? And then what was the last one?

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The last one was? I think
I think that's the last one we

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did. We skipped the puzzle,
which I believe that's Oh, that's right.

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But also Kay wants to know who
wins in the eating challenge, Tony

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or CT. Oh, probably Tony. I got to give that to Tony.

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I think it depends. I think
depends on what it is. Yeah,

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because we've seen Tony like that eating
challenge that he did. He ate

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normal foods. But you know,
saying it depends is a total cop id

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answer. You can't say that you
just got a bet on one. I

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mean, I'm gonna bet cet all
day every day. Really is a better

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eater, just generally than Tony.
He drained an entire goblet of blood,

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that is think. I think he
also drinks ct hands down all day every

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day. Because it was Tony might
be able to eat it all. But

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I think t is gonna eat it
faster. Is it real? Yeah?

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Oh yeah. It was like a
literal goblet. It was. It was

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a it was a full goblet of
blood. Yeah, and it was dripping.

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It looks like the Empire. Great
visual because he's got this it's this

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giant horn coming out of his mouth
and it's just rivers of me wonderful.

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After he is eaten like brains and
all these others at the top of a

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snowy mountains, blood is spattered into
white snow on the at the ground.

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It's just like great visual, great, great visual, great scene. I

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don't think I CT hands down all
day every day, all right, he

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t is also, I mean I
was. I was the other CT for

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a little while. Like, no, I get it. That man will

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forever and always be one of my
favorites. Yeah, I get it.

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Uh, the puzzle FESTI did okay
in this puzzle too. I think he

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and Tory finished first in the puzzle. Oh yeah, they've knocked it out.

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Yeah. Yeah, He's not known
for puzzles, but there was in

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that pattern. He just saw something
and was able to figure out that pattern.

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Yeah, because it was like a
connect four but don't connect four at

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all. And I thought it was
interesting that almost everybody solved it differently.

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There was not a solution to this, it was just finished. I think

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they finished exactly the same. Yeah, they both did. The bars were

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all different. Yeah, the bar
seemed like the smartest strategy. If I

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saw that, I was like,
oh, that's so genius. Yeah,

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it was too that did the bars. I think. I think it was

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surprising that Tory was. I was
surprised that she was the first one I

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finish. But that's I think where
she zeroed herself out right, she was

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like a deficit and then the puzzle
she yeah, she she got herself to

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zero again. Yep, all right, so that was the qualifier. Yeah,

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so those were the qualifiers. So
yeah, after the qualifiers, we

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have Johnny's up by two minutes,
so he has a two minute advantage.

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Almost everybody else has a one minute
advantage. No one is at the regular

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start time. Chanelle is at a
one minute disadvantage. And Corey, I

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mean from the beginning he lost all
four of them, and he doubled down

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on the first one, so he's
down by five minutes, five minutes,

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and you know he after the third
advantage game, he was visibly upset and

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crying. And then that fourth game, like the eating challenge, he actually

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pulled it out. He's still lost, but he seemed to kind of regroup

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and be like, Okay, you
know what, I still gotta do this.

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We'll be fine. Yeah, struggling, and I mean even that next

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day he said, like, I
had my pity party last night. I

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kind of got all those emotions out. I set this off. I'm ready

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to try again, because I think
that first aid really took it out of

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him. Yeah, he was pretty
demoralized. Yeah. Well, for the

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finale was a pretty straight shot.
It was a ten mile run up a

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mountain. We've seen this in a
lot of finales, both check mountain that

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was a hill, well whatever,
with checkpoints along as it ended up above

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tree line that was a hill.
Well either way. It was a pretty

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typical challenge finale formula. But the
checkpoints checkpoints are where we had issues.

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TJ says that you can either do
them for an advantage. You don't have

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to do them the first two.
That's right, Yes, the first two

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you you can either do them or
not, but you don't have to do

408
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,319
them. But then you will be
purged if you're last place. Yep.

409
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,599
If you were the last place at
the second challenge, you will be gone.

410
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,759
Yeah. And one day I thought
he said, which maybe I'm missing

411
00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:03,200
back coach where he said that if
you attempt them and fail, you get

412
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,400
punished. Yeah, he did say
that, but I don't know. I

413
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,400
I think the punishment was just like
you have to do the normal route,

414
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,279
you don't get the advantage, and
it's the time that you spent doing it

415
00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:15,119
probably, yeah, but it was
either way, the disadvantages and the advantage,

416
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,240
like it was all this was where
the kind of final went wrong.

417
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:22,079
This. Yeah, these advantages were
stupid. They were too it was too

418
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,680
much of it of an advantage.
There was no disadvantage if you decided to

419
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,559
try. Yeah, like you should
always try pretty much. Yeah. I

420
00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,440
mean these weren't like super time consuming
tasks. I mean, especially the act

421
00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:37,319
that it took like ten to fifteen
seconds. Well, I mean we proved

422
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:40,640
it today. You can get you
can throw that act in the first half

423
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,240
a second and be done. Ye. Go, And if you have them

424
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,799
all right next to you and you
just throw throw, throw, you could

425
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:49,079
be down in like ten fifteen seconds. Yep. I did. I did

426
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,319
appreciate when they were all starting.
I think they you know, Johnny Goes,

427
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:56,039
the rest of the group goes,
Chanelle Goes, and TJ and Corey.

428
00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:59,880
You're just standing with TJ Goes.
Corey, you want to go to

429
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:04,160
an app cars, I'm gonna.
I'd have the time I was. I

430
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,960
appreciated how I appreciated his spirits in
the second day, Like even though he

431
00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:15,839
was down seven minutes from Johnny,
he still had a good, a good

432
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:17,640
attitude about it all. I was
kind of like, you know what,

433
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,880
I'll be fine, We'll do this, We'll be good. I do think

434
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,880
there's challenges. I think maybe even
FESSI would have just been like, just

435
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,359
forget it. If if we're gonna
have a purge at the end of this

436
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,039
day anyway, yeah, I'm not
gonna let's just forget it. But Corey

437
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,720
was like, I'm gonna do my
best. I'm gonna try and I do.

438
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,880
Yeah. I just I really I
really like Corey. Yeah, he

439
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,000
was. He was good this challenge. So we're on the ax throwing YEP,

440
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,559
which if you get an axe in
the board in five tries, you

441
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,200
trim one point two miles off of
this yeah, which I mean one points.

442
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,480
So if you if you're a decent
runner, I mean it's not even

443
00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:00,480
classic products, you could do it
and say minutes. Yeah, if you're

444
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:04,079
like a military guy, flat service, you're a good runner. Yeahs.

445
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,039
And most of these people, right, yeah, most of these people are

446
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,240
very in shape. So let's give
it ten minutes. You can do You

447
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:15,160
can do a mile up a hill
in weird terrain with a rock in ten

448
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,920
minutes. And that is on the
far outside of this. Yeah, like

449
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:25,240
this is a this is what a
thirteen minute advantage, which is for throwing

450
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,720
an axe for something that takes half
a second. Well, and for if

451
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,440
you get it on your first shot
it takes you ten seconds to do.

452
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:34,279
Yes, it might have taken you
another minute to throw a five yep.

453
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,759
So then you're at fourteen minutes or
whatever it is. Yeah, so then

454
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,079
you have to do this this long
circuitous route rather than going straight through.

455
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:49,160
But only two people were not able
to sink that ax yep. TORII took

456
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,160
the wrong route. Yeah, so
fay, they highlighted it and I didn't.

457
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,200
I didn't catch it at first,
but they highlighted it that FESSI,

458
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,640
even though he did not get the
advantage, he still took the short cut.

459
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,640
So it sounds like there has been
a little buzz about this. Yeah,

460
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,720
Zach, you follow us on social
media more than I do. But

461
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:11,519
from what I've read, most people, most of the challengers even are saying

462
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:15,119
that FESTI did this on purpose,
knew it was the shortcut, took it

463
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,559
anyway, and was hoping he wouldn't
get caught. And I guess Bessie went

464
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,640
on one of these podcasts and said, oh, I thought my last one

465
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:27,839
stuck, and it didn't. But
if you watch him throw it very obvious

466
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,400
fucking over the board, yeah,
it wasn't close, it didn't almost stick

467
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,039
and then fall out. I think
Betty's just trying to trying to get around

468
00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:38,559
this, but I think he.
I think he absolutely was trying to cheat.

469
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,839
He got caught, yeah, and
that's how that happened. I think

470
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:47,440
he was pissed that Chris has done
so well. Yeah, and he wanted

471
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,640
to try and make up the fact
that Chris was ahead of him. Yeah,

472
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,720
because it's making him look like a
real asshole. I mean, he

473
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:56,839
already looks like an asshole, but
they go after targeting Chris all season,

474
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,960
and now Chris is ahead of you. I like it was a little bit

475
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,440
of a I'm gonna try and try
and beat him at his own game and

476
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,400
just didn't work. Yeah, I
think it was. I think it was

477
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,920
pathetic. What did Yes, this
whole thing not saying it's it's fair that

478
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,039
you lose that hard based on an
act throwing challenge. I mean it's not.

479
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:19,960
But at the same time, like
it's what it is. I think

480
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,839
this is going to be something that
brands him going forward. I hope.

481
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:29,039
So. I really I feel like
he I feel like challengers may look at

482
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:30,559
him differently. Yeah, I definitely
think fans are going to look at him

483
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:34,640
differently. I hope. So does
he have fans? All the talk I

484
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,880
see online is like fucking Fetti is
the worst he is this guy? Oh

485
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:45,440
man? But yeah, so they
we get to the second challenge and it's

486
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,720
what was the second challenge? Was
it's the rock one? Oh? Yeah?

487
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,319
So they had to balance they had
to do a balance Is that not

488
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:57,039
the third that was the center blocks? So second one, they had a

489
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:03,519
they had a a scale that one
side was chalked up and empty and or

490
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,079
chalked up in full and the other
side was empty, and you had to

491
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,119
fill the empty side and then pull
a lever to remove the chalk from the

492
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:15,480
full side and get it to balance. I thought that that you had to

493
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,880
get it to balance perfectly or like
as close as possible. But Chanelle was

494
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,200
the last one and she was like, it was there was a solid like

495
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,359
foot and a half difference. It
was still all was not accurate. It's

496
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:32,359
closer. It was closer, but
Deasy was almost perfect on there. But

497
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,240
Chanelle was like, yeah, this
was just all on the ground. Well,

498
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:37,720
yeah, Chris is the first one
to do it, and when his

499
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:38,759
was kind of off, I was
like, oh, it just means it

500
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:42,440
hit doesn't at the ground, right, It is what I guess. Yeah,

501
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:45,599
Zach, I want to hear your
perspective on this because I've been thinking

502
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,920
about this. Banana's completely fucked up. This he did to the challenge Banana's

503
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,160
first elimination. Do you remember what
that one was? It was it was

504
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,359
like, uh, I cam with
the rock lifting. Yeah, and so

505
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,720
he bet that Tyler was going to
be unable to carry this certain amount of

506
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:05,039
rocks. Yes, And Tyler did
it completely easily with absolutely no problems at

507
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:08,160
all. So I think we've found
Banana's main weakness here. He's not gonna

508
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:13,839
wait, judge, he's terrible at
estimating weights of things. Yeah, and

509
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,720
like what a fucking weird ass weakness
for a person to have. But well,

510
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,279
something that that was relatively I mean, I don't want to say easy,

511
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:25,240
but relatively easy. I mean because
everybody else got it. Everyone else,

512
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,599
they got it. Yeah, he's
the only one that failed. Yep,

513
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,400
and failed it by a lot.
It was not close when he pulled

514
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:37,119
that leverage, just right to the
ground. But again, major point of

515
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,759
shot in Freida uh FESSI is one
of He's like the second guy to show,

516
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,319
maybe third guy to show, a
second guy to show up at the

517
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,799
second challenge, and TJ's standing there
and goes, you got to turn around,

518
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,599
go back, go do another half
a mile, half mile there,

519
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,440
half mile back, because you took
the advantage that you were not given.

520
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,160
And he said something to Bananas like
they're making me come back and run this

521
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:05,519
thing again. Yeah, Like,
dude, you you literally cheated, not

522
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:07,319
like a like, oh I kind
of I've just messed up. No,

523
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,240
no, no, you literally cheated. Yeah, you didn't just take a

524
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:15,559
wrong turn like Natalie did in her
final and ran extra like no, no,

525
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:19,559
no, you straight up took the
shortcut that was marked as shortcut.

526
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,319
So it's one of those things that
they said that the last place was going

527
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:25,359
to be cut, and I think
once they didn't hit the axe in the

528
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,640
board, it's like, don't even
bother, like, yeah, you're done.

529
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,160
They should have cut it off right
then. Yeah. I mean I

530
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,720
have a feeling they probably thought that
either more people would not hit the axe

531
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:40,400
on the board or everybody would hit
the axe on the board. Yeah.

532
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,240
Yeah, so I understand why the
second one on one guy didn't hit it

533
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:45,559
and then it just so happened,
I mean not just so happened, but

534
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:49,279
then they were both out. Yeah. Yeah, because I don't think that

535
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,960
you could have overcome that. I
don't think you could have overcome that.

536
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,480
Yeah, I mean like ten twelve
minutes, Yeah, doesn't matter how when

537
00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:00,240
when you started or whatever you're going
to get past in that. If you

538
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:02,079
were if you were quite a bit
ahead, if you were maybe five minutes

539
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:06,680
ahead, yeah, and you were
not to make it and then head off,

540
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:08,440
maybe you could have. Yeah.
I mean if you if you picked

541
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:12,280
up your axes and you just chucked
it and chucked it and chucked it,

542
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,480
and you didn't wait that, you
didn't wait for it to hit you,

543
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:16,679
just the moment that you let it
go, you picked up the next one

544
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,039
and threw it again. Then you
could get through that ax throwing challenge pretty

545
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:23,760
quickly. Yeah a minute, I
mean yeah, thirty second, like less

546
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,599
than thirty seconds even, And yeah, I feel like that if you'd done

547
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,880
if someone had done that, then
they could have potentially not gotten the advantage

548
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,440
but still been able to make it
to the second checkpoint without too much of

549
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,480
an issue. I feel like you
would have beat yourself up though, if

550
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:42,719
you just and you missed them all, even like I messed it up.

551
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,360
I should have slowed down. Yeah, I mean you should have slowed down.

552
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,480
But at the same time, like
I don't know. Yeah, as

553
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,400
we learned today in ax throwing,
I hit none of them what twelve throws,

554
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:55,400
and then we started a game and
I was like in in yeah,

555
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:59,639
whereas I hit all of the all
of the practice runs in the moment we

556
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:01,400
started game, on the floor,
on the floor, on the floor,

557
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:07,599
on the floor. Yeah, unpredictable
and bananas is they're saying, I've never

558
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,599
thrown an axe in my entire life. First one boom in the board.

559
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:15,960
It's there's some luck, there's a
lot of skill, but it did It

560
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,440
did seem unfair to me that it
was sort of like, you don't get

561
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,039
the axe on the board, then
you're out. And that's how that worked

562
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:23,920
out. And that's that's kind of
shitty for Tory and Festi, but fuck

563
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,159
Festy song kind Yeah, it's funny
because Beetsy posted a picture on Instagram saying,

564
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,400
you know, right after saying that
before the season, he went and

565
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:36,039
practiced ax throwing and posted a photo
of him out there doing acts throwing.

566
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:38,119
Did he really? Yeah, he
was not able to pull it out.

567
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:43,719
That's great, And Corey was doing
everything wrong, but he managed to get

568
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,719
one in yeah, in the board, So that's kind of all that matters,

569
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,280
I guess. Yeah. So yeah, at the at the second checkpoint,

570
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,119
they've got the scales. If you
made the checkpoint, if you if

571
00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:58,679
you got it right, then you
got to get on an ATV and write

572
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:01,400
an ATV to the next almost all
the way to the next checkpoint. Yeah,

573
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,599
so two miles again, what a
fucking advantage. Yeah. So Mikayla

574
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:10,039
and Desi showed up at checkpoint in
two at the same time and desire.

575
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:15,320
I think it was Johnny Johnny,
So Desi decided, no, I'm going

576
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,920
first. She Yeah, she immediately
jumps on the on the scale and starts

577
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,159
putting stuff in there, and Mikayla
stands there for a second, and because

578
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:30,000
Johnny's on the other scale, Mikayla
makes the decision to just keep going and

579
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:35,039
she starts off running. Frankly,
not a bad decision, Yeah, same

580
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,119
thing, Like it didn't work out
for her, But I don't falter for

581
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,960
doing it. Yeah. No,
we don't know how long that took them

582
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,760
to do that, Yeah, because
I mean if you think about it,

583
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,920
like picking up a rock that weighs
ten to fifteen to twenty pounds and putting

584
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,280
it into this scale and kind of
looking at it, judging it like this

585
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,079
is something that could take you five
ten minutes, Like who's taking them out?

586
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,760
How long does that take? Yeah? The resetting of it, yeah,

587
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:00,679
yeah, because she could have been
standing there for fifteen minutes, frankly,

588
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,639
waiting for Desi to finish and then
unsetting it and all this stuff.

589
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:06,400
I mean, she did not make
a bad call. Yeah, it was

590
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,360
just I do think and I liked
Desi and I you know whatever. It

591
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,719
was sort of shitty of her to
just be like it's mine, like I'm

592
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,840
doing it. I mean, they
should have flipped a coin or something.

593
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,239
I don't I do not fault Dezie
in any way, shape or form.

594
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,079
There don't know if I falter like, I'm glad she won. I was

595
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:25,719
rooting for michaela more than her,
but like not much hates. But it

596
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,320
seems like if you're friends with the
person, it's like, maybe we should

597
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,800
flip a coin or rock paper scissors
for this. No, I mean age,

598
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,400
Yeah, this is for two hundred
fifty thousand dollars. I'm not wrestling

599
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,400
at the ground first. Well,
and on top of that, like going,

600
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:39,239
if Mikayla really had an issue with
it, she should have said something.

601
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,880
Yeah. She should have been like, uh no, we know,

602
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,800
we need to figure out another way. We need to flip coin, we

603
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,079
need to do something. I don't
care. No, you don't get to

604
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:49,000
go first. I want to go
first. Yeah, No, you're right.

605
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,320
Mikayla should have fought hotter. She
said some passive aggressive thing like well,

606
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,199
I guess you're going now, yeah, and then she just took off

607
00:37:54,280 --> 00:38:00,840
running and I can see Mikayla being
a little salty about it though it's it's

608
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,000
also the time, and it's the
only thing that matters is that DESI kind

609
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000
of raised her hand first, and
you know what I mean, like,

610
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:08,360
that's not it's a challenge. As
Johnny likes to say, all's fair and

611
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,000
love war and challenges. Yeah,
no, I don't falter. It was.

612
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:14,559
It was a big decision and she
didn't she made the right one,

613
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:16,360
and you know whatever. But yeah, it's one of those like I don't

614
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,519
know if that was fair though,
but it was. But again, this

615
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,800
game has never been fair. Yeah, right, it's probably I hate that,

616
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,559
but I didn't Kayla's stand. I
want Mikayla. I was really happy

617
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:32,599
with does one? So one?
Yeahs number two I ever wanted. Yeah,

618
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:35,880
did you only like Mikaela because of
the shirt she wears? I mean

619
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,920
really good? I know. Yeah. And also he did her dirty by

620
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,320
showing her getting light headed on the
side of the road and then never again,

621
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,639
she could have died up there.
We would have no idea. You're

622
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,760
giving us a voiceover telling us that
nothing. Yeah, speaking of shirts,

623
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,519
you saw that? Have you seen
the previous for Challenge thirty nine, Olivia's

624
00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,719
wearing the boob shirt. Oh,
okay, the like just a wire under

625
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,679
her boobs, boob shirt that you
guys were really excited about last season or

626
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,159
the last season she was on.
I have a photo with her wearing that

627
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:14,280
shirt. Oh, apparently it's a
staple in her wardrobe. Then you'll see

628
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,000
the shirt if you watch the season. The guys were very excited about it.

629
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:24,840
Yeah, so they almost everybody gets
through this, and then Tory is

630
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,159
the last woman to show up to
the second checkpoint and there's a little note.

631
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,000
TJ isn't even there. There's a
little note written on a little tablet

632
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,519
saying you were the last person.
You were done. That is a shirt.

633
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:39,679
Sorry, how does a shirt?
Oh no, different boob shirt,

634
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:45,000
A different one, different shirt.
It doesn't. The shirt's not what the

635
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:49,199
focus is. Yes, I understand
that the shirt that I'm thinking of is

636
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,199
like under boob and inner side boob. I'm not listening. I'm not looking

637
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:55,800
at the shirt. That shirt's the
same as every other. Look, it's

638
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:02,639
not the shirt the space between I
understand that. Okay, I am an

639
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:07,159
owner of the space in between,
So I don't even I couldn't tell you

640
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,679
what color that shirt was. Zach
and I just went to the picture.

641
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:15,320
I really have no idea. Would
ladies, okay, would either of you

642
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,039
ladies ever wear that shirt? No? No, no, not in a

643
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:24,199
private moment with a special somebody.
No no, not a crownded conventional doing

644
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,400
a weird shirt that has like a
giant keyhole. What if it's his birthday?

645
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,000
No, well it's the only thing
he wants, don't be lad Yeah

646
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:37,400
it's a high neck. Yeah,
it's over you. It's for Zach.

647
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:42,559
Yeah, but I want to be
comfortable with shirt. I don't care if

648
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:44,400
it's for the person that I'm with. I want to be comfortable in the

649
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,519
clothes that I'm wearing, not even
a birthday. Oh, Zach, there

650
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:52,480
you go, there you go,
there you go. There was an I

651
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:54,119
tried to get to buy for a
watch. Vranchirez just like I'm sending it

652
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:57,159
to you. He really did.
He really sent me on. I was

653
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:01,440
like, well, that's one way
to do it, so well, getting

654
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:07,920
back to the challenge and not your
sex life. That's the after show.

655
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:16,079
You gotta pay for them. Come
forward, sex sex life all myself.

656
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:23,719
Hey, that's my sex life.
It's all by myself. Oh god,

657
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:30,199
we've gotten all the rails Kayla is
dead on the mountain somewhere. Yeah,

658
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,639
all right, well for sure,
you're good. It is your so.

659
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:38,079
And then FESSI finally shows up to
the second, uh, the second checkpoint,

660
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:42,559
and he also has a fun little
note from TJ saying you are the

661
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:45,039
last place, bye bye. And
you know, I'm just I'm so excited

662
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:49,119
because this is we rarely see a
glimpse behind the curtain of just production fucking

663
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:51,599
this up, and you know this
is a production fuck up. I'm just

664
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:52,719
like, where's TJ. T just
gotta tell him to go home? Oh,

665
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,920
teachers on the other side the mountain, fucking scribble it on something and

666
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,639
leave it. Honestly, I kind
of loved it. I don't know that

667
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:05,400
it was a production fuck up.
I liked having I liked them getting a

668
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:09,239
note more than TJ being there,
really, because it was TJ FaceTime call

669
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:14,760
go the fuck home. Yeah,
but I just liked the dismissiveness of a

670
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:20,440
note like you fucked up, bye
bye. There's something to be said for

671
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:22,480
that. I didn't like the note. I wish that TJ would have been

672
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:27,920
there. Do we needed we needed
to duplicate TJ or a man dressed like

673
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:35,320
TJO like an awkward voiceover with a
science that says I'm TJ. That would

674
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,679
have been great. We could get
a TJ fathead, just like a cutout

675
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:45,199
of TJ with a you're the loser
bye bye. Yeah. But Ti and

676
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:50,639
Tory devastated walking down a mountain together
thinking about their bad luck. I was

677
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:55,480
surprised that Torri was one to go
home first. You know, she's kind

678
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:59,039
of been in that spot quite a
few I was more. I was surprised

679
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:04,000
that she went HU before Chanelle because
Chanelle has not done a lot this season,

680
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:07,760
and I feel like Tory had a
better chance of getting a little bit

681
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,400
farther than she did. I agree. I loved that was the first person

682
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,079
to get home. I don't have
a beef with SESSI, but I've never

683
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,559
seen it. You get to watch
more of a he will his last his

684
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,960
previous season. He was a massive
douche and it really turned a lot of

685
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:30,840
people off. Yeah. No,
I but of course as he's walking away,

686
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,519
he is. If you don't think
that I'm gonna come back and I'm

687
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:36,519
gonna win the challenge one of these
days, and you're kidding yourself you have

688
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:39,360
a one, Yet you keep HIPing
yourself up, dude, and I don't

689
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:44,280
know that you were actually able to
do this game, like I hope not.

690
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,599
I will be devastated if that ever
wins. That'll be my last season

691
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:52,760
ever watching this. That's gonna it's
gonna take the whole It's gonna finish it.

692
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,760
It's just gonna be like I can't
watch a show where FESSI is a

693
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,519
champ. Yeah. Well, we
saw like at the start of this episode

694
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:01,679
there's a gonna professional Fetty does where
he's like I got this big, you

695
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,320
know, bulky upper body and these
tiny legs, like I'm not made for

696
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,320
this long distancing. It's like that's
every final you're ever gonna do that though

697
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:15,519
you just will never win. It's
making excuses ahead of time, making excuses

698
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:19,039
ahead of time. I can't win
this final. I'm too strong. He's

699
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:22,760
also not as bulky as he used
to be. Like he in previous seasons

700
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:30,800
he was built like Corey, like
big dude. This season he came back

701
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,920
and he was not toned. He
was not toned. Don't body shame,

702
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,639
Carlin, don't body shame. Sorry, it's very rude. I know it

703
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,400
happens. Yeah, But next was
the stacking of the cinder black thing in

704
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:47,639
the order of the eliminated players.
We've seen the variations of this, like

705
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,280
stacking in orders of people that have
left. Scott says, Pesty's biggest fan

706
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:59,719
is Fetsy. Yes, yes,
fan. Only thing probably what Festy's doing.

707
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,000
I know it's only fan. Oh
No, it was weird people destroying

708
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:07,199
their stacks, which is also something
you're supposed to do in the challenge.

709
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,039
But if all you do is knock
it over, it's still in order,

710
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:15,840
right Yeah, I noticed that too. Anything you're not you're not hiding anything.

711
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,199
It's still in the extents you're wanting
to just get out of there,

712
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,440
right yeah. But so like in
previous seasons, what was one of them?

713
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,800
They there was one Battle of the
Sexes is where this started? Yeah,

714
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,519
so they pushing it over has been
has been a thing for many years

715
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:30,639
where if you make it, you
don't just leave it up. You push

716
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:34,039
it over. But there have been
there have been a few seasons. I

717
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:36,800
feel like West may have been on
one of the teams. I feel like

718
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,960
DM was on a team at one
point time where you push it over and

719
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:42,800
then you grab a few of them
and you just chuck them to the side

720
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:46,280
or like mix them up a little
bit so that it's it's not quite so

721
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,599
obvious what the order is. Yeah, because yeah, you could, you

722
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:52,599
could pretty easily come back and even
though like you're having to carry these cinder

723
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:55,000
blocks, like as you're carrying them, you can look around. Yeah.

724
00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,280
So, but it seemed like nobody
even screwed this up. It was Yeah,

725
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,360
it seemed pretty like bank bang bang
bang bang, which check was telling

726
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,880
me that, like you said,
this was something that's typically done, so

727
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,400
I guess I would just be memorizing
as I go. Yeah, that's kind

728
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,880
of what I was thinking too.
They can well in fresh meat to the

729
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,360
two winners. They were doing puzzles
every time myself. Yeah, they were

730
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,400
doing puzzles in their bed, and
I was like, yeah, smart.

731
00:46:17,639 --> 00:46:20,880
Yeah, well, to take it
seriously. You can tell the difference between

732
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,599
the people that practice in the off
season and take it seriously and yeah,

733
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,400
people who know how to do tanagrams
and realize that, like you need to

734
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,639
know the order of people who left, and you need to know the order

735
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,119
of the seasons, because that's another
one that comes up a lot. Yep,

736
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,559
Like those those are the people that
you see do really really well pretty

737
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:42,920
often. Yeah, but yeah,
I mean that people very easily could have

738
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,400
at least it looked like pretty easily
could have seen what Chris did and when

739
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,400
they all knocked him out. Yeah. Maybe or they may have just like

740
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:54,760
cut out the potential like other checks
that they did. Scott brings up a

741
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,360
good pint. Scott says, I
thought it was funny that Johnny knocked his

742
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:02,800
blocks over even though he was last. Yeah, did he walks over?

743
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,920
Yeah? There might just be a
muscle memory thing. This is what I

744
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,519
do. And I mean even though
he was less, and he probably should

745
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:15,159
have known that fesse was not coming
up behind him. Maybe he had forgotten

746
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,840
that FESSEI was not coming up behind
him. Good point, I thought so,

747
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:22,079
yes, But Kay is also confirmed
FESSEI has an only fan, So,

748
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,639
Kay, how long have you been
a subscriber? Tell us about it.

749
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:30,960
But Chris wins after this cinder black
thing, it's just a run to

750
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:34,599
the top, and Chris ran to
the top, and one he did.

751
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:37,000
We haven't talked about him pretty much
the whole second day. But he dominated.

752
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:42,360
Oh yeah, he killed it.
He got in first place and never

753
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,119
let he never let up. He
rocked the whole thing. Yeah, good

754
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:47,320
job, Chris, But really,
if you think about it, he did

755
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,199
that the whole season. Whole season. I mean, he just you know.

756
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:52,159
I was thinking about it too.
I was like, well, if

757
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,880
Chris comes back, everybody's gonna target
him. And then I thought, wait,

758
00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:00,119
everybody already targeted like a whole season
and won his way out of it.

759
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,760
Every time I meant to look this
was when I was talking with you

760
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,159
and Wolfie last night. I was
saying that I meant to look this up.

761
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:14,880
How many how many rookies have we
had come in and win their rookie

762
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:20,480
season? Well, both of USA
won, right, I don't know that

763
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:25,199
that counts. Sarah definitely doesn't count
because they were all rookies last season.

764
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,599
Yeah, Usa, I guess everyone
everyone was a rookie that season, and

765
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:35,679
Sarah only won because everybody else quit. Danny was it was a serious contender,

766
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:38,559
but Sarah only won because everybody else
quit. Yeah. Scott in the

767
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:44,320
chairm says Turbo. Turbo's win is
also extremely impressive, especially War. Yeah,

768
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:47,920
that was that war. The World's
final was nuts in cases Amber,

769
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:53,000
which is also true, but I
feel like her she was partnered with You're

770
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:57,440
doing it too. Yeah, everybody
gives it to CT and not Amber.

771
00:48:57,519 --> 00:48:59,760
But Amber did a really good job. I mean, she did well,

772
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,119
but she was partnered with CT.
Yeah, but I feel like that's people's

773
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:05,840
way of this, and she was
partnered with Drell for most of the season.

774
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,320
It's just like their eye rolling at
Amber, like, well, yeah,

775
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,400
ever as a cham but it's because
of CT. Let's give Amber a

776
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,920
little credit, a little bit of
she hasn't done great on the other season

777
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,079
she's been on. Was it Jenny's
first season? She want? I think

778
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:20,679
that was her? Yes, Yes, Jenny won for her first season.

779
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,320
Okay, so there are a few. I don't know that any of them

780
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:29,920
have had the season yet, lots
of feedback. I don't know that any

781
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,159
of them have had a season quite
like Chris's though, where he went into

782
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:37,760
a limination four times, yeah,
and won four eliminations, one of the

783
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,679
last two dailies to stay safe,
one of the last two dailies, and

784
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,239
then won the entire finale. Yeah, yeah, great, yeah it And

785
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,559
really I do think he had a
chip on his shoulder. He had oh

786
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,840
Jenny, it was Jenny second.
Oh, that's right, he did have

787
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,239
a chip on his shoulder. He
needed to prove that his Survivor win was

788
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,199
not a fluke and that he deserved
that too. Yeah, and I think

789
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:05,320
he showed it here. He's a
resilient guy. He's resourceful, he is

790
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,440
out to win. He's also relatively
humble. He didn't he doesn't and talk

791
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,119
about how awesome he is. I
mean, he seems relatively humble right now.

792
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,480
If he comes back next season,
we'll see how it goes. I

793
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:19,480
think this is also a good way
to retire if you're if you're Chris,

794
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,840
you win Survivor, you win the
challenge and then just be like peace out.

795
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,079
I'm done. I'm all done.
Yeah, I say, Sarah Grayson.

796
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,840
But that was like a group whimton
if you count those. Yeah.

797
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,320
Yeah, and also a cousin if
we count that. But then like,

798
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,559
oh Jamie, Yeah, all of
those like had a newbie partner, So

799
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:38,199
I guess, no matter what,
they're gonna have the first time rookie,

800
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:44,559
right, m Yeah. And then
so Chris finishes, and then Corey is

801
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:47,800
second place and Johnny benend is his
third. Uh. Daisy was first for

802
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,320
the women, Mikayla didn't finish at
all, and Chanelle was second, and

803
00:50:52,679 --> 00:51:00,119
Tory was out and Michayla was the
biggest shock to me here. Not its

804
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:02,559
silly that she didn't win, but
she didn't finish is weird. I wish

805
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:07,000
you would have known about what happened, Like we could assume she got dehydrated,

806
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:08,639
and yeah, I just couldn't continue, But they didn't really give us

807
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:14,119
like an actual explanation as to what
was going on. I do part of

808
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:15,639
me wonders if it's one of these
like, well, you can keep going,

809
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,559
but you've already lost, and she
was just like, well then my

810
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:22,760
bother, which I get, but
I don't know. Yeah, I would

811
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,119
have liked to see your finish well. And then when we were talking to

812
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:27,840
Wolfe last night, he was saying
the other thing that Chris and Dessi were

813
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,719
saying on the podcast they were on
was they were asked, you know,

814
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,920
how long until the next person came
when you finished? For Chris it was

815
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,039
like twenty minutes, half an hour
before Corey showed up, and it was

816
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:40,760
the same thing for Desi. It
was twenty minutes half an hour before Chanelle

817
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,800
showed up. So there was a
decent gap ye in between them. But

818
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,000
I do wonder too if it was
closer, if Corey would have tried harder,

819
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:52,039
gone faster. Well, so I
had I really do want it,

820
00:51:52,079 --> 00:52:00,519
so like, I kind of feel
like him having a five minute disadvantage really

821
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:05,239
put a fire under his ass to
to do really well. Because Corey did

822
00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:09,320
great. He did great in this
finale, and I kind of feel like

823
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,800
if he didn't have that disadvantage to
start off with, that he wouldn't have

824
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,559
had that same fire. Yeah,
yeah, that's probably true too, So

825
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:22,440
I think he probably would have come
in second or third regardless. Yeah,

826
00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:25,639
which is unfortunate. But I kind
of feel like he's I feel like he's

827
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:30,079
also a le ro. A character
of he is. Corey is is lovable

828
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:35,199
and he's fun to see and we
like him that the man is never gonna

829
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:38,920
win. And yeah, I like
Corey too. I like that in his

830
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:44,400
sort of success speech, he was
very human like to me as a dad,

831
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,960
I love it when he talks about
his kids and question had the picture

832
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,920
of his kids and talked about what
he's crying again, I'm getting it.

833
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:53,599
Yes, it's really he's like I, you know, I like the people

834
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:55,920
I can relate to, and I
do relate to the dads who say they're

835
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,119
doing it for their kids and they
and when Corey said, like, ye

836
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:01,119
I did my best. I didn't
quit. I came in second. My

837
00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:04,960
kids are going to be proud.
It's like you could tell he meant that

838
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,239
and he felt that, and he
that was a mature adult thing to say.

839
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,360
Other than fassi, He's like,
oh, I'm gonna win it someday,

840
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,320
you know. So I didn't win
because it's not fair and I don't

841
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,239
know. It just seemed like very
humble and mature, and yeah, I

842
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,800
just really agree. I appreciated that. Johnny Banana is the best name one.

843
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,880
It's like, good job. Yeah, way to appreciate that, Chris

844
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:30,519
Well. I mean, I can't
give him too much credit because Johnny has

845
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:36,800
won seven of these, so yeah, it's like if he wins another,

846
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,559
then like okay, cool, you
want another. And if he loses,

847
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:45,599
like he true true, I mean
I guess I do have to give it

848
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:47,559
to him a little bit. Whatever. He was like the best, come

849
00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:52,239
on, we're talking right after They're
like, well, not right after that,

850
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,119
but this point she and I were
watching the Banana's backpack and even there

851
00:53:55,199 --> 00:53:58,519
Johnny like when he lost, it's
like, hey, Cee, T got

852
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,039
me, Like, good job,
man very positives, like you know,

853
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:05,159
I'll be back next time. Yeah. Ye, but I think everybody knew

854
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,719
this was Chris's season. Yeah,
I mean he is, he was shown

855
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:15,679
up. Yeah, Chris is very
impressive and apparently has a huge penis.

856
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:22,920
Yeah. Why do we call him
Chris Hungerwoods Underwood? But Chris Hungerwood?

857
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,239
Who calls him this? Because it's
you know, when you're on Survivor,

858
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,519
you're in your underwear for nine days
straight. So apparently he was just flapping

859
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:36,360
away. You know, why is
it that today I've learned about different guys

860
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:40,800
I didn't want to know. You
didn't need to know. I did not

861
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:46,280
need to challenge I didn't. I
guess I won't tell you other penis trivia

862
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:51,760
that I know about. Allison learned
about guys. You know it's weird.

863
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:57,599
Well, so Allison learned about Johnny
Banana sex tape today. I was offered

864
00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:02,440
to watch it and declined. Chat
room, do you know any other penis

865
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:07,559
trinia? Please? The chat room
is debating about who is the smartest young

866
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:13,559
buck and who's the dumbest young buck? What do you guys? So we've

867
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:22,960
got one hundred Tony is honorary adjacent
to the they are all real dumb.

868
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:29,440
He's got to be the dumbest,
though, what was it dumbest, smartest?

869
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,920
Yeah, I would really love to
see all of them have to do

870
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:39,440
the count the triangles challenge, Peanut
Butter and Nicole and Corey. I will

871
00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:45,159
never forget that. So Alison to
explain. In in one of the previous

872
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:47,840
seasons, there was a in the
finale, there was a challenge. One

873
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,000
of the checkpoints was there was a
a picture of a triangle and it had

874
00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:54,880
multiple triangles within it, So it
was it was divided in a bunch of

875
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,559
these different triangles and they had to
within this whole triangle, they had to

876
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:01,880
count how many triangles were in there. Okay, I've seen things like that,

877
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:07,400
Yeah, things that are similar.
So ultimately the whole part of this

878
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:10,559
is there was also like a little
bit of a math puzzle that went with

879
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,239
it, and ultimately it showed that
you had to be able to divide,

880
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,599
to divide that number by nine and
there so there were there were twenty seven

881
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:22,719
triangles in this thing, and they
they're looking at it and they're counting the

882
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,519
triangles that are really obvious, but
they don't start counting the one like making

883
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:30,239
bigger triangles out of little triangles,
that sort of thing. They go,

884
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,400
they go to the board that has
all the wards on it and they start

885
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,920
telling the potential triangles of like what
is inside the A and what is inside

886
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:44,559
letters? And they're like, do
these count of triangles? Can we just

887
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:49,239
carry the whole thing with this?
It's like, it was I don't know

888
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,079
that I've ever laughed so hard.
It's just so funny because both of them

889
00:56:53,199 --> 00:56:59,079
looked so dumb. Yeah, yeah, it was. None of the young

890
00:56:59,159 --> 00:57:01,000
bugs are smart. Nelly's got to
be the dumbest. Kay was saying she

891
00:57:01,039 --> 00:57:05,880
thought that Corey was the smartest,
but after this episode, she's questioning that,

892
00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:08,480
why would you Cory do in this
episode that was so stupid? I

893
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:14,360
mean, I think you had a
good episode of spelling, terrible spelling,

894
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:22,000
but yeah, Hunter has been absolutely
terrible at trivia and puzzles before. Nelly

895
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:30,239
is just a moron. Good spirit
though that I I I am impressed by

896
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,519
the fact that you're willing to pour
a beer over a over your laptop.

897
00:57:34,639 --> 00:57:37,679
But all right, I got skills. I got skills. Not a drop,

898
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,559
not a drop spilled. If we
suddenly just like go off the air.

899
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:46,639
You know why so hard you'd have
laughed, very cruel. I mean,

900
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,360
she wouldn't have been Oh, I
would expect it from my teeth.

901
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:59,639
In not a religious person, you
should pray for me if I spelled beat

902
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:02,760
her up my here, you wouldn't. It's not it's not worthy of that.

903
00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:09,199
But I do. I think uh, Nellie and Corey have both like

904
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,920
their spirit is positive to me,
and I like that. I like watching

905
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,480
them. I will welcome any season
that they're on. I don't know that

906
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:20,559
we're going to ever see Nelly again, and it doesn't look like Hunter's ever

907
00:58:20,599 --> 00:58:23,280
coming back. It seems like Hunter's
done too young Bucks now the old bucks

908
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,000
anyway there, Yeah, that's true. They're all well two of them are

909
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:31,800
dads and the audacity, as Case
says, oh it's scuba and now yeah,

910
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,480
Nellie's all yeah, he's made his
mark on the channel. He really

911
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:42,039
has appreciate Nelly. All right,
Well that's that's the whole lunch. Yeah,

912
00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:45,000
does he want Chris one? Two
very deserving winners that were hard for

913
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:50,360
it and earned it. She survived. I mean, I do have to

914
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,400
give it to Chanelle, even though
she did not do a whole lot this

915
00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:55,840
season. She did finish the finale
second place, which way to go hurt

916
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,519
just more than a lot of people
in season London, well more than most

917
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:04,599
of the people on season one.
She had to finished second place because yeah,

918
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:07,519
but she could have quit or she
could have finished so well, Zach,

919
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:09,519
this question, oh kay, is
going to mimic my I was about

920
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:13,960
to ask you this because you you
ladies are gonna have an opinion. Are

921
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:21,079
survivors just better at the challenge than
Big Brother or Amazing Race people? Because

922
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:27,239
two survivors won both USA one and
two. Okay, but we really counted

923
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,159
season one because there was no challenges
on there for them to go again,

924
00:59:30,199 --> 00:59:32,320
Well you can't, well, but
you can't discount that two survivors won it

925
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,519
either because there was. Sarah doesn't
count Big Brother an Amazing Race than one

926
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:40,760
survivor wanted. The only winner was
a survivor player. Both of these people

927
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,840
were survivors, and Chanelle was a
survivor. She was second place. Mikaaleo

928
00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:50,679
was third place as a survivor person. Well, I personally don't think so,

929
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,239
but you know, kind of bringing
up something similar. U Chanell went

930
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:58,960
on Instagram after it and said,
the challenge now belongs to Survivor. Oh

931
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:06,440
s dominated. Survivor dominated USA two
And I know the Vets made some Vets

932
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,599
made it to the final but Survivor. How many in the finale? Were

933
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:15,360
four from Survivor people left all four? Yeah, so three of the four

934
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,840
girls and Chris and Chris. So
really they dominated throughout the game yet to

935
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,800
the finale. Yeah, so yeah, they destroyed it. Yes, and

936
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:29,800
I do. I do think being
a Survivor player is closer to the Challenge

937
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,440
than like Big Brother or Amazing Race. You're used to doing challenges, used

938
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:37,679
to doing hard things, not quitting
mean in the elements. Probably, Yeah,

939
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,880
I think it hardens I think I
really do think Survivor hardens you.

940
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:44,199
It makes you able to do like, it makes you able to press through

941
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,880
hard things. Here's my thought.
I was like, yes, it did

942
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:52,000
well, but put them in a
season with Jordan ct Bananas, like,

943
01:00:52,119 --> 01:00:55,519
give them fifty to fifty equal numbers, Maria Emily Strom. Let's see how

944
01:00:55,559 --> 01:01:00,519
they do then, Oh god,
Emily coming back, that would be that'd

945
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:05,639
be a fun game to see.
I think I think Challenge wipes the floor

946
01:01:05,719 --> 01:01:07,880
Survivor if they have even numbers,
Yeah, well we'll see. I hope

947
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,960
we see it, because really it
does. I mean, Survivor did really,

948
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,519
really well, and I was rooting
for the Survivor women, and I

949
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:19,159
was rooting for Chris nearly this whole
game. So yeah, I think in

950
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,639
terms of doing well and just winning, uh, they did after her last

951
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:29,039
season, yes, I was heartbroken
for her. Yeah, last season and

952
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:34,000
Enzo just failing miserably for her.
Yep, all right, I'm putting the

953
01:01:34,039 --> 01:01:36,920
phone number in the chat room.
Guys, call if you like, and

954
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:39,400
we will talk to you. Do
I have to press any buttons over here

955
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:45,079
when people do call on no,
it should uh no, you'll just adjust

956
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:50,599
the volume it's too loud, and
maybe nobody will call. I don't know.

957
01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:53,840
I told him to call the phone
number because he talked through here.

958
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,360
I don't know if you guys can
hear it, but our headphones aren't connected

959
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,679
this, so we didn't hear oh
all so kay, if we can talk

960
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:02,800
for episode zero thirty nine. Unfortunately, Kay, I do not believe any

961
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,239
of us here have watched that.
I have not watched it. Yeah,

962
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,440
so we will have no idea what
you're talking about. And I gotta be

963
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,360
honest, Kay, and Scott and
everybody else in the chair room. I

964
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,199
am not excited about thirty nine.
Like I'm not excited. I don't care

965
01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:20,480
about the cast at all. I
just do not care about this. I

966
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:23,599
will I will watch episode zero.
I'm sure what is episode? So episode

967
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:28,880
zero is introducing into all the cast
members because season thirty nine is a bunch

968
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,880
of people that we don't know.
So it's a whole episode of just interrot

969
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:36,079
very much. Yes, it's the
first night in the house and ooh,

970
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,199
first person. Oh, hang on, I gotta do this thing. Hello,

971
01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:49,000
Hi, this is kay Hill.
That's Kay Oh wof he's not there.

972
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,079
I'll love he's funny. You've been
read. Don't say that's gonna go

973
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:57,440
to his head. Even Carlin's dog
is Yeah, Ray is barking at you

974
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,960
too excited. Okay, what do
you think of the final? It was?

975
01:03:01,159 --> 01:03:04,480
It was? It was. It
was kind of mid but it's like

976
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:07,840
what I said in the chat,
it's kind of like a final that we

977
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,920
would see in the earlier seasons,
right, Yeah, I agree with that.

978
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,119
On the shorter when it was,
I think it was it was a

979
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,719
season where Coral and Miz were pardoned
up on the same team and they were

980
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,599
walking up a mountain doing things,
So that's what it kind of reminded me

981
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:24,119
of. I can see why people
don't like it because compared to the ones,

982
01:03:24,159 --> 01:03:27,880
but compared to the finals that we've
seen these last couple of seasons,

983
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,559
it's right up there. So I
don't think it's the worst. But it

984
01:03:30,639 --> 01:03:32,519
seemed like we went by really fast. Yeah, yeah, it did go

985
01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:36,280
real quick. We needed a ninety
minute episode on this one, at least

986
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,480
exactly that's what I thought we were
gonna get, but I saw it was

987
01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:42,719
still an hour. But I'm excited. Who won? Fucking Johnny Banana's loss.

988
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:52,440
You're good? You're good? Oh? I mean, have you heard

989
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:57,519
my mouth? Like, come on, girl, you were happy with the

990
01:03:57,559 --> 01:04:00,280
winners both winter. Is that who
you were? You were rooting for Chris

991
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:05,119
and Dazzy the whole time. I
was rooted for them because I don't I

992
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:10,519
just don't understand why, because at
first I wasn't because like, you guys

993
01:04:10,519 --> 01:04:13,320
should have gotten the bets out.
I don't understand, like why they started

994
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,199
off trying to get all the bets
out and all of a sudden that plan

995
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,639
just went out the window. Yeah, it was that. It was that

996
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:23,239
episode that they came up with the
like everybody pulls the name out of the

997
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,239
hat. The moment that that happened, it caused enough chaos them to not

998
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:33,480
focus on the bets, tell the
toy and Johnny get to the ending,

999
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:40,119
right, get a seven time Champs? You didn't. You didn't try every

1000
01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:45,920
single episode to get that seven time
Champ out of that house? Escape easy.

1001
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:48,280
It's always it happens like on season, but it's always so easy to

1002
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,800
get Wes out, Like they are
always stamp on, let's get out West

1003
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:56,360
and then Banana's is sitting right there. But do you notice they always wait

1004
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,280
till the end. It's when they
say, Okay, Johnny Vane's gotta go,

1005
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,320
because wasn't it for if Bessie,
like on the last so for the

1006
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,559
final And they did that on Rider
Dies too, which I thought was very

1007
01:05:04,599 --> 01:05:08,440
stupid when he was there the whole
time. He's literally sitting pretty the whole

1008
01:05:08,519 --> 01:05:12,320
time. And yeah, they have
definitely done that a few times. And

1009
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,840
I was debating this with Alison yesterday
because she has talked about Johnny just sliding

1010
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,039
to the end, and I'm like, and you know, Chris win all

1011
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:18,800
these challenges, and I'm like,
you know, I think it's harder than

1012
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:24,440
winning eliminations, being a seven time
champion and convincing people I'm okay to take

1013
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,360
to the end, like you can
take me there and there's for sure.

1014
01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:30,719
But also like, well I was
saying to him because I had forgotten that

1015
01:05:31,239 --> 01:05:34,320
Bananas went into an elimination, But
I was like, I feel like there

1016
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,360
should be a rule if you don't
if you don't win something or win an

1017
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,280
elimination, like you're not in the
finale like get out, yeah something some

1018
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,760
of you've got to go to you
got to win the elimination. Yeah,

1019
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,719
there have there have been seasons Red
Schools, Yeah, the schools. Yeah

1020
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:53,239
that it was like a like a
hashtag bill, right because they made it

1021
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,599
so easy to where everybody could get
it out. Yeah. I think it

1022
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,760
was was total. Man, it's
the first season they did that they had

1023
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,800
to go into elimination. They've done
it in like old old seasons, but

1024
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:11,639
it was the first one of like
the newer version of the challenge. They

1025
01:06:11,719 --> 01:06:15,440
never specified, Yeah, they never
specified how many skulls they had, and

1026
01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:19,400
then I remember the next season they
said they were giving out ten, but

1027
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:23,880
then they got to ten ten skulls
and then all of a sudden, Okay,

1028
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,840
you can start taking them and eight
people in the finals. So I

1029
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,000
think they kind of stopped doing that
because it just wasn't what's the word produced

1030
01:06:31,159 --> 01:06:34,519
right, Because I really wish that
they would have had Okay, we're going

1031
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:38,119
to give out ten skulls, and
if you don't have by the time,

1032
01:06:38,199 --> 01:06:40,800
then get rid of everybody else.
I know it, but I just want

1033
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,280
them to try that out. But
the point of everybody having a chance to

1034
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,199
get one really loses the momentum of
the season. Yeah, it's definitely been

1035
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:53,239
talked about on the season of Total
Madness that they did it the other season

1036
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,400
that I can't remember what the other
season was called. The both of those

1037
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,440
seasons that they had the skulls,
it was definitely talked about, like,

1038
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,159
Okay, they need to limit how
many you can get. They need tell

1039
01:07:00,239 --> 01:07:02,159
us ahead of time, they need
to trade them around like they did with

1040
01:07:02,239 --> 01:07:06,320
the keys on on the Island.
There needs to be more stakes to this,

1041
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,639
and yet like don't give them a
final challenge where it's a purge,

1042
01:07:11,679 --> 01:07:14,199
but it's not really a purge because
you can still go for these things,

1043
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:15,280
but you know, we're still going
to give you a chance, like,

1044
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,599
no, if you don't have it
by this final Challenge, then bye bye,

1045
01:07:18,239 --> 01:07:20,599
so long, see you later.
Yeah, actually, or maybe or

1046
01:07:20,639 --> 01:07:25,079
maybe they just need to stop casting
so many people, Like I missed the

1047
01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:27,880
days when it was just like sixteen
or eighteen people on the season and not

1048
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,719
twenty five plus people on the shelf, because it's hard to keep up,

1049
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,679
especially on this new season of the
Challenge. On I was talking about thirty

1050
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:39,280
nine where they had to launch special. I think it's four of them,

1051
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:42,760
yeah and all. Yeah, Well, I just feel like I'll miss the

1052
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,679
days when it was just like eighteen
to twenty not twenty four in up people

1053
01:07:46,719 --> 01:07:50,639
because there's too many of them.
So maybe past Do we know how many

1054
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,679
how many episodes we've got of thirty
nine coming? No, but I bet

1055
01:07:54,760 --> 01:08:00,679
it's most twenty eighteen because like the
MTV season's last or yeah, they go

1056
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:06,960
on forever. This season, the
season that Polly and Natalie went back and

1057
01:08:08,039 --> 01:08:13,920
forth to the to the Redemption House, you I will specifically, specifically remember

1058
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,079
Tim going back and forth and sitting
there like we are halfway through the season.

1059
01:08:16,079 --> 01:08:21,439
You won't know how many people have
gone home four Oh, it's like

1060
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:27,359
because they're because this because the new
season, like they're bringing in the champs,

1061
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,399
right, the champs are just going
to be there for the whole season

1062
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,399
or just an episode. I don't
know. It's it's kind of a mystery

1063
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,279
to me as far as I know, they're just coming go. Yeah,

1064
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,840
I mean they're gonna have to beat
them. So is it gonna be like

1065
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:44,760
HOLI Final reckoningd Like if somebody wins
against a champ, nobody goes home,

1066
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,640
So that's like a wasted episode,
right, I don't know, I bet,

1067
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,319
And I think maybe that's part of
the reason I'm dreading thirty nine.

1068
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:55,159
Yeah, I didn't even I'm and
frustrating. My favorite thing is when the

1069
01:08:55,239 --> 01:08:58,039
season is twenty episodes of being like, you know, it's Thanksgiving. This

1070
01:08:58,119 --> 01:09:00,920
has been on since summer. This
has been since my kids were in last

1071
01:09:01,039 --> 01:09:05,800
year's school. Like, it's just
it spans so much time. It's crazy.

1072
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:12,239
Remember and Allies said on Twitter,
somebody said on Twitter, a Challenge

1073
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:16,720
season shouldn't last the whole college semester. It's true. And I think I

1074
01:09:17,119 --> 01:09:20,520
like these USA seas just because it's
thirteen episodes. You're in and out in

1075
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:25,720
a few and you leave like feeling
good and wanting more. Yeah, and

1076
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,119
instead like the MTV ones are just
like, fuck another episode? Are you

1077
01:09:29,239 --> 01:09:31,479
serious? Well? And not only
the MTV episode do we have so much

1078
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,520
more of the MTV episodes, but
they're also an hour and a half yeah,

1079
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,319
in comparison to the sixty minutes,
So like, you just depend the

1080
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,039
end of it, it's just a
slog. Did you just even watch?

1081
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:44,479
There have been more than a few
seasons before I joined the actual show the

1082
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,199
podcast, Like, there have been
more than a few seasons where it was

1083
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:53,479
so painful to watch the ninety minute
episodes every single week that I just got

1084
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,920
to a point where I would just
listen to the show that you guys were

1085
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,600
putting on and just have fun chiming
in on there because I cannot deal with

1086
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,479
this, especially Spies Life, especially
spis Lives and Allies. That was just

1087
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,600
two yeah, And remember that was
the season. That was the season that

1088
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:10,079
Josh and Bestie got into their fight, and that episode where they had their

1089
01:10:10,159 --> 01:10:14,359
fight they had as an hour episode
where they could have just and then when

1090
01:10:14,399 --> 01:10:16,039
they came back the next week to
show the rest of the fight, the

1091
01:10:16,119 --> 01:10:19,439
rest of the episode was boring.
They just put they had put all that

1092
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:25,039
in one episode it would have been
really good. Well normally that when they

1093
01:10:25,079 --> 01:10:29,640
came back from the from the fight, they then replayed like half of the

1094
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,800
fight in the next episode, So
we saw the same thing two episodes in

1095
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,199
a row, like what are you
doing? Yeah, I don't know.

1096
01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:39,279
Yeah, that's like I just feel
like, yeah, they're just It's like

1097
01:10:39,399 --> 01:10:41,920
I said, I think that was
the season where it was like almost thirty

1098
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:47,159
people because it was like fifteen internationals
and then ten or twelve vets all right,

1099
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,680
yeah, so there was so many
people. And then also they kept

1100
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:55,199
having those weeks where it was just
and then they had that twist where one

1101
01:10:55,239 --> 01:10:57,920
a limit where I was gonna have
one elimination. What happened to the days

1102
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,880
where both a man and a woman
went each episode to make it goes home

1103
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,960
an episode? Yeah, because they
had Yeah, they had the pairs,

1104
01:11:05,359 --> 01:11:09,880
and then they had the teams,
and the teams were just one person from

1105
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,920
each team, and then they went
individual. It was so many twists that

1106
01:11:14,039 --> 01:11:17,159
season. Then there was a lot. Okay, I am glad I don't

1107
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:20,159
I'm glad I don't have your memory. Kay, I would kill myself if

1108
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:26,760
I had to remember all this stuff. I just like. But also,

1109
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,399
Tim, I think you a lot. I feel like I might, I

1110
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,279
might like or not. I went
going into it having low expectation because I

1111
01:11:33,399 --> 01:11:36,439
saw who they dropped. They dropped
a lot of good people for this season,

1112
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,359
and the people they have on there. I'm like, why is Michelle

1113
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,439
there? Why? Because she hasn't
won anything? Yea, get a new

1114
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,159
whe But I could have done another
season without Michelle because she's been there ever

1115
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:49,840
since year. She's been on the
last two three seasons. I don't have

1116
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,600
to see I don't think I need
to see Michelle. Do you watch Do

1117
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,640
you watch Survivor? Oh? Yeah, I do. I love Survivor.

1118
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,399
That's why I asked the questions.
Are Survivor? I feel like survivors more

1119
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,159
harder because they're sleeping outside, taking
showers, they have like bugs in their

1120
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:08,119
teeth. We're in the challenge,
they get a nice house. Do you

1121
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:11,000
think And I asked this question to
Zach before, do you think challengers are

1122
01:12:11,079 --> 01:12:14,800
better in the challenge? I'm sorry, Survivor players are better at the challenge

1123
01:12:15,119 --> 01:12:18,920
than like say, Big Brother,
Amazing Race players. I think definitely better

1124
01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:23,680
than Amazing Race. I'm not really
familiar with it, but the little clips

1125
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,319
that I've seen, they're just doing
little things that they go across the country

1126
01:12:27,359 --> 01:12:31,119
and do little things big brother But
big brothers have their backyard things. They're

1127
01:12:31,119 --> 01:12:34,840
not like in like a place where
they can be out and free. They're

1128
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,199
just in the backyard doing activities.
So that's why I put Survivor better than

1129
01:12:39,239 --> 01:12:44,000
the big brother. But we've seen
challengers on me Survivor people on challenges,

1130
01:12:44,039 --> 01:12:45,640
and we see them do really,
really good. I would I want to

1131
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,319
like a challenger to go on Survivor
to see if they can handle that.

1132
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:59,479
I would legit pay for the Survivors, an all Challenge Survivor season like exclusion.

1133
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,520
I don't want to. I don't
want an all Challenge Survivor season.

1134
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,600
I want a half and half.
Oh really, I would want the whole

1135
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,039
whole bank. But you don't watch
Survivor, do No? I don't,

1136
01:13:09,079 --> 01:13:11,840
but I would. I'd be willing. I would if so. I would

1137
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:17,359
watch Survivor if it were half Challenge
and half. Like to like a Challenge

1138
01:13:17,399 --> 01:13:20,479
tribe and a newbie tribe or half
of each tribe, because there's gotta be

1139
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:24,680
there's more than one tribe. Every
time they have a team with Challengers and

1140
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:30,000
then all Survivor players and then like
maybe newbies, oh, previous Survivor players.

1141
01:13:30,119 --> 01:13:33,199
Yeah, versus Challenge. I mean
they Survivor Challenge or Survivor players are

1142
01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:36,880
coming on the Challenge with previous Challenge
players. Like, I want to see

1143
01:13:38,319 --> 01:13:41,479
the same thing happen on Survivor.
I would watch that. S Yeah,

1144
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,600
I think that'd be really interesting.
I yeah, it'd be watched the old

1145
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,079
season. Don't watch these new seasons
of Survivor, Charlie. You need to

1146
01:13:47,079 --> 01:13:49,800
watch like the really old ones,
the ones that Tyson was on. You

1147
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:54,760
should watch those. Yeah, the
Tyson seasons are pretty good. Last last

1148
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,039
thing I was, he's not here. But did you guys see the article

1149
01:13:58,039 --> 01:14:00,840
where Josh said he's taking a break
from the Challenge. Yes, yeah,

1150
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,640
thank god. Well, I mean
he did already take a break. I

1151
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,560
agreed with you on that one.
He definitely did already take a break.

1152
01:14:10,399 --> 01:14:14,000
Do we think this is real?
Well, people say this all the time.

1153
01:14:15,319 --> 01:14:17,720
Come back. Yeah, yes,
a break might mean one season,

1154
01:14:18,319 --> 01:14:20,520
you know, I mean, he
it sounds like he came out of this

1155
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,960
season like feeling like the Challenge was
making him. He said it in the

1156
01:14:26,039 --> 01:14:29,159
last episode the Challenge was making him
into someone that he didn't want to be.

1157
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,840
So I wonder if Josh's game like
Josh, he plays a really,

1158
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:39,319
really good game, and it's just
to the point where it gets close to

1159
01:14:39,399 --> 01:14:42,079
the end where he has to make
these tough decisions. That's when he cries.

1160
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:45,399
Because at the beginning of this season
he was screaming and yelling at everybody

1161
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,279
about not wanting to put his friends
in this and that, and all of

1162
01:14:47,319 --> 01:14:50,079
a sudden, it's like getting so
much that he plays a really good game

1163
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:53,800
that he couldn't. He should be
getting to the final. Every season that

1164
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,000
he plays, he can be like
the non and gets to the final.

1165
01:14:56,239 --> 01:14:58,920
It just like it's just something where
he just messed up whenever he has to

1166
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,239
go into those eliminations because they know
that they can beat you. Yep,

1167
01:15:02,359 --> 01:15:05,479
that's the point. I think they
know. They keep him around because he's

1168
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:10,199
a layup and they know it gets
down to the nitty gritty and they have

1169
01:15:10,359 --> 01:15:14,479
to throw somebody into elimination an easy
win. They're going to go against Josh,

1170
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,039
and he's not going to be upset
about it because he wants to be

1171
01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:19,039
these people's friends. Yeah, I
think that. I do think Josh is

1172
01:15:19,039 --> 01:15:24,319
a very authentic person, and I
think he's genuinely friends with these people,

1173
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:28,520
and I think he genuinely it hurts
him to vote against them, But that's

1174
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,159
the game. That's the game.
Yeah, exactly, I had to vote

1175
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:34,880
for you. Yeah, he didn't
care. But he's too invested. He's

1176
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:40,520
too like emotionally invested in this,
and he's gonna he's always when they throw

1177
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:45,000
these huge feds. The one time
Bananas went in, they're a huge tand

1178
01:15:45,319 --> 01:15:54,239
welcome to Johnny. Banana's always a
game, Banana. But I feel like

1179
01:15:54,279 --> 01:15:58,479
from Banana's standpoint, he should understand
people wanted to throw him in because nobody

1180
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,359
wants to run against you. Yeah, I will never but he doesn't throw

1181
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,359
like a hissy fit as bad as
Bananas does. I think I will never

1182
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:11,640
understand why Bananas freaks the fuck out
every single time he gets voted in,

1183
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,800
Like, dude, you have won
this game seven times. People are throwing

1184
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,319
you in because you have won this
game seven times. They want to get

1185
01:16:19,359 --> 01:16:24,079
you out because they don't want you
to win, because they want to yeaheah.

1186
01:16:24,199 --> 01:16:29,680
They the day's like final reckon in
era of days where every time Banaias

1187
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,439
will come on and he would be
targeted right out the gate. Now everyone

1188
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:38,640
loves him and bye, I wonder
what happened because they're not casting certain people

1189
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,279
from that era, No Morris,
all these new people who doesn't really know

1190
01:16:41,399 --> 01:16:46,560
the show like that. I think
he's doing something right. He's yeah,

1191
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,359
he took a couple of them.
He took a couple of seasons off.

1192
01:16:50,399 --> 01:16:53,079
And he even said that as a
reason. It is like he's like,

1193
01:16:53,239 --> 01:16:55,439
I come in, I'm always the
first target. He's like, I need

1194
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,039
to kind of get off people's minds. Yeah, clear the clear the board

1195
01:16:59,079 --> 01:17:02,800
a little bit. He was him
to do it again better. Who's the

1196
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,800
better? I skate for different reasons. I think nobody wants to throw a

1197
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:11,560
ct in because they're all scared to
death of him and see him in the

1198
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,920
promo he had that that weapon.
I forgot what I was called. He

1199
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,279
looks scary in the promo for thirty
nine. Yeah, like a mace or

1200
01:17:18,319 --> 01:17:23,119
something, and I ball remember but
sets in this next one, I guess

1201
01:17:23,119 --> 01:17:26,680
they should. Yeah, he there's
a uh, there's a slip of pan

1202
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,279
like a sledgehammer. Then he like
throws it and he like walks out with

1203
01:17:31,319 --> 01:17:34,560
a scary face and throws it in
the stand. It's like really intimidating.

1204
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,920
I can't wait. I'm just watching
for him. The mercenaries are I'm watching

1205
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,600
for him. Kara and Jordan,
those are the only ones I care to

1206
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,439
see. I don't care, okay, but I guarantee you, I guarantee

1207
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,319
you there. Their clips are five
to eight minutes an episode. Yeah,

1208
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,840
and it's gonna be at the end
and we're gonna spend the whole season waiting

1209
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,920
for them and they're there. It's
gonna be a little blip. Yeah,

1210
01:17:54,920 --> 01:18:00,840
I'm dreading this watch fun like,
but I'm letting Gus know right now there

1211
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:05,680
is already that season thirty eight Alliance
is already building. So like Gods,

1212
01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:14,279
Red, some Mariah, Michelle,
Jay and some other people whoever was on

1213
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,760
right or dies already building. Big
Alliance is gonna go after the rest of

1214
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,760
the people, about any of you. He is back. I'm so happy

1215
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,880
about that he is back. She
is back. I did see that about

1216
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,159
Big Team too, but it's like
she's the other one that like retired and

1217
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:31,760
then she's back two seasons later.
I'm doing big If you retire, just

1218
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:38,359
retired, like retirement is like what
West did when he was on Rivals three.

1219
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,720
Yeah, and it came back.
People they were telling Corey said he

1220
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,880
were he has to take a break, and we took a season off and

1221
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,119
now he's back. Like, that's
not a break. You just off one

1222
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:50,479
season. We're not gonna fit well. I forgot about Josh, like big

1223
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:57,960
b Yes, yes. When people
make a big deal about the break,

1224
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,239
I just think like you just attention. You just want everybody to like retweet

1225
01:19:01,319 --> 01:19:04,720
this ship or post this stories or
wherever, and then they just come back

1226
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:08,520
whenever. Anyway, It's like I
don't know, and I like big TV,

1227
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,039
but it's it's like you're full of
ship, big Tea. You said

1228
01:19:11,239 --> 01:19:13,840
six months ago that you were going
to be a chef forever and never go

1229
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,279
back to the Challenge. Ye,
and then here exactly your kid their favorite

1230
01:19:17,279 --> 01:19:20,920
people that because you said you watched
the Challenge. Australia they have that guy

1231
01:19:21,239 --> 01:19:27,199
Kieren Kieran, the guy with all
the tattoos is on there grow from episode

1232
01:19:27,239 --> 01:19:30,119
one yeah and now yeah, and
Jessica, you know, the girl is

1233
01:19:30,119 --> 01:19:34,439
always all tatted. I'm surprised to
bring Australia. Jessica is my favorite on

1234
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,760
Australia. So I'm excited to see
her. Yeah, she's already her.

1235
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,920
She get her homework. That's what
I like. I like when people come

1236
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,000
in and study on the Challenge.
I like it when people do their homework

1237
01:19:44,039 --> 01:19:45,560
too. Yeah. Yeah, she
came in and said, of course all

1238
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,359
those people that was on rid her
dogs are going to stick together. She's

1239
01:19:48,399 --> 01:19:51,880
already pointed that out. So I
do like that. Uh yeah, Melissa's

1240
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:56,119
bag they got. I didn't watch
Challenge UK, but they got Callum and

1241
01:19:56,319 --> 01:19:59,079
James on there. Okay, I
didn't watch him. They don't have in

1242
01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:01,560
a half of who we from Challenge
Orgentina's one there. I did like her.

1243
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,199
She was on the she was on
the World Championship. She was fun.

1244
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:09,520
Yeah, I just like the name
who he is that like one time

1245
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:15,119
was this coming back? Like a
soft that can't back the guy that I

1246
01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:19,840
hate that guy? I hate that
guy and is back. I'm excited.

1247
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:27,800
It is amazing, right, Okay, Okay, it's been fun talking,

1248
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,520
but I think we need to throw
You're all good. We love it,

1249
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,760
but we didn't. We didn't throw
it to the rest of the crew.

1250
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:41,239
Have a good conversation. Thank you, Thank you so much for calling in.

1251
01:20:42,239 --> 01:20:45,800
Okay, Okay, you know what, I would love to see him

1252
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,800
Survivors. I want the cast of
just like normal New People, and I

1253
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:59,079
just want Abram is the one Challenger. Oh my god, the Challengers unknown

1254
01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:08,399
caller. Hi, this is Elizabeth. Oh my gosh, it's so cool

1255
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,880
to talk to you, guys.
It's so cool to talk to you back.

1256
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:17,039
We love you. I've been listening
to Total Madness and I just love

1257
01:21:17,119 --> 01:21:24,239
your podcast and I feel like you
guys make watching the Challenge even more enjoyable.

1258
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:29,359
Oh well, that's very nice,
thank you, thank you. Yeah,

1259
01:21:29,359 --> 01:21:30,560
you know, my my my one
season on this show, it's been

1260
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:38,800
I've contributed so much. Charlie's touched
in her yes, Alison on her first

1261
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,520
episode. No, that's the third
third, well, the third episode,

1262
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,960
he's at home crying to himself.
He's not able to talk to you.

1263
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,199
So I totally understand how you feel, Alic Elizabeth, thinking that I have

1264
01:21:49,279 --> 01:21:51,520
been in that exact same But it's
it's a lot of fun to be able

1265
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:55,359
to talk to this crew. And
now Carlin's in the in in my in

1266
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,760
my dining room. So listen to
the show long enough. I'll just invite

1267
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,439
you to my home. I mean
technically, Yeah, you're welcome. You're

1268
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,560
welcome anytime. This was open to
everyone. That's true. Where are you,

1269
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,760
Elizabeth, Where are you at in
the world. I'm in Maryland.

1270
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,359
I was in grad school, so
it was really hard to keep up,

1271
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:17,239
like like episode by episode, so
I was never really able to watch like

1272
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:24,800
live, and so I like binged
the past couple episodes to be like right

1273
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:30,119
ready for the live, like I
have to call it. But yeah,

1274
01:22:30,279 --> 01:22:36,520
I I really I don't. Like, I am excited for the actual like

1275
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:45,800
MTV version of the challenge, but
I was really surprised at how bad Toy

1276
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,680
did this final. I was expecting
a lot more from her, Yeah,

1277
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:57,319
especially after Yeah, I mean I
think she was just it was just very

1278
01:22:57,359 --> 01:23:01,119
surprising to see her just do bad
at like basically almost every one of them.

1279
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,960
Yeah, you know, and like
the stuff you guys were saying about

1280
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:12,039
the advantages not being like they were
just completely unfair and it, you know,

1281
01:23:12,079 --> 01:23:15,119
because I thought, oh, Toy's
gonna kill it the second the second

1282
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:18,920
day because it's just all endurance.
It's like ten miles of running, but

1283
01:23:19,039 --> 01:23:25,239
then she just sort of couldn't keep
up because of just doing so bad at

1284
01:23:25,279 --> 01:23:30,760
the risk stations. Yeah, Yeah, Tori and Festi's game ended because they

1285
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,159
couldn't throw an ax. Yeah,
which I'm glad Festi did because I don't

1286
01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:38,560
like Festi. But that's also kind
of bullshit, Like if you really look

1287
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,319
at it objectively, that kind of
sucks for those two. Yeah. I

1288
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,880
mean I think I think Festi,
I don't like Beessi, but I think

1289
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,399
he really like chilled out this season, which made me like him a little

1290
01:23:49,399 --> 01:23:57,520
bit better. Yeah he was.
Yeah, it really makes me wonder if

1291
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:02,000
he after this past season of getting
so much backlash, It makes me wonder

1292
01:24:02,079 --> 01:24:06,159
if he if he kind of reserved
himself a little bit more this season because

1293
01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:09,720
of how much he got. But
what's that say to him is it's like,

1294
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,520
you know, what I got to
do to get people to like me

1295
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:16,119
is just the fuck up. So
he was on Bonance podcast like two weeks

1296
01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:17,720
ago, and he's saying that he's
like, you know, last season,

1297
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,000
I was very boisterous. I threw
myself into two eliminations, like I was

1298
01:24:21,079 --> 01:24:25,520
trying to like be like, you
know, this top competitor, and people

1299
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,720
hated me. It's like, so
this time I come in, I sit

1300
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,479
back, I like relax. I
chill out. People still hate me.

1301
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:31,800
He's like, what what do I
have to do to win? Yeah?

1302
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:41,399
Yeah? Being humble? Yeah yeah, he was just he just came in

1303
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,359
too hard, like the first few
seasons, and I was just like,

1304
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,520
you just got here, Like yes, you're a good physical competitor, but

1305
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,880
like you're still new, like you're
not You're not like seasons here, like

1306
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,720
you know, show a little grace
and like humility. You know, yeah,

1307
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,520
maybe playing a little closer to the
vest for the years and then kind

1308
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,920
of like you know, peppered in
a little bit more. But yeah,

1309
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:09,039
were you rooting for Chris at the
beginning or who are you? Who are

1310
01:25:09,039 --> 01:25:13,600
you rooting for? So I I
know you guys won't like to hear this,

1311
01:25:14,119 --> 01:25:17,399
but I know Zach will appreciate this
because Johnny Bananas, Okay, it

1312
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:28,520
was like I love Johnny Bananas,
but I so it's like hard for me,

1313
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,560
like when he's in a season,
so like root for anyone else,

1314
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,720
but I did. I was really
happy for DESI, And I do think

1315
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:40,319
that like Chris and DESI deserved their
win because they, I mean Chris especially

1316
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:44,560
like just had like a really tough
season and he really fought for it.

1317
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:49,159
And he was he came out on
top. And but but yeah, like

1318
01:25:49,319 --> 01:25:54,840
I just of course, I'm just
always like rooting for the Vests in general,

1319
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:59,239
just because like it's history and you
know them. We've been watching the

1320
01:25:59,279 --> 01:26:01,520
show with these people for so long. It's hard to not have a little

1321
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:05,560
bit of a thin for all of
them. Yeah, and like Corey,

1322
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:10,800
it was so great to see Corey. I gain, I guess he only

1323
01:26:11,359 --> 01:26:15,000
I don't remember how with the last
season he was on. It seems like

1324
01:26:15,079 --> 01:26:19,560
he hasn't been on for a while, But I don't think it hasn't actually

1325
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:23,920
been that long, but it has
been. It's been a few seasons.

1326
01:26:24,039 --> 01:26:27,279
Yeah, you took a few.
Yeah, I feel like it's been like

1327
01:26:27,279 --> 01:26:30,000
two or three seasons, and like
we've had all stars in there, and

1328
01:26:30,119 --> 01:26:34,560
we had you know, the World
Championship and the episode previous season of USA.

1329
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:40,479
So it may have actually only been
like one or two MTV Challenges,

1330
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,840
but it kind of feels like it's
been a little bit more than that.

1331
01:26:43,079 --> 01:26:45,680
Well, Plus, I think he's
more of a background character than he used

1332
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,880
to be. He's like it's he
used to be in storylines and hooking up

1333
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:53,520
with people and calling out Johnny Bananas
and now he's just sort of chilling in

1334
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:59,840
the background more of a honestly,
yeah, he's like I was really like

1335
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:01,479
happy for him. I think he
did really well. I mean he beat

1336
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:05,720
I mean he came in second,
like he beat Bananas and so like,

1337
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,680
I mean, especially with how bad
he did the first day, I think

1338
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:15,720
it was really great that he kept
pushing and kept going and you know,

1339
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:19,399
made it. So I hope he
like keeps coming back. You know.

1340
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:24,680
I don't want him to take anymore. Same are you a Do you watch

1341
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,319
Survivor or Big Brother or anything like
that. No, I don't. I

1342
01:27:30,199 --> 01:27:35,279
the Challenge is the only thing I
like watch. But I do really like

1343
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:42,960
Jay. Yeah, which Jay's really
great. I I this was I just

1344
01:27:43,079 --> 01:27:45,359
total madness. Was the first season
I ever watched. And I remember watching

1345
01:27:46,159 --> 01:27:49,560
all these people like being up on
him, and I didn't know anyone yet,

1346
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,760
and so I was like, oh
my god, this poor dude.

1347
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:57,880
And so I really love Jay.
I think he's a good player. I

1348
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,840
mean obviously like writer dies like he
played like the very massy season with Michelle,

1349
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:06,600
But yeah, I think he's like
a good competitor. I heard he

1350
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:13,279
dropped the N bomb on thirty nine, and I read a rumor I don't

1351
01:28:13,279 --> 01:28:15,640
know how true that as Zach,
have you read that. I've not heard

1352
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,319
that. I heard he dropped some
like not just not just subtly racist stuff,

1353
01:28:19,399 --> 01:28:25,079
like overtly crazy racist stuff. I
hope it's not true, because I

1354
01:28:25,159 --> 01:28:29,119
also like Jays. Yeah I was. I was kind of excited to see

1355
01:28:29,159 --> 01:28:31,079
him coming back on thirty nine because
yeah, I mean, his first season

1356
01:28:31,279 --> 01:28:36,279
he was treated like Chris. He
was thrown in every single elimination and did

1357
01:28:36,399 --> 01:28:40,680
really really well until he didn't.
And yeah, well you don't watch Survivor,

1358
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,279
but he was great on Survivor too. He's like a good character.

1359
01:28:44,039 --> 01:28:47,119
He played the game hard and good. And that's crazy because obviously just being

1360
01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:49,840
friends with people about the races doesn't
mean you can't do that. But like

1361
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:54,119
Nelson's one of his closest friends outside
the show. Really, yeah, like

1362
01:28:54,279 --> 01:28:58,239
Jay and Nelson are always together,
like visiting each other. So to hear,

1363
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:00,319
I hope it was just a hope
that's just a room. I hope

1364
01:29:00,359 --> 01:29:04,520
it was. But it's a rough
rumor to have about you though, Man,

1365
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,640
look at me just spreading it now. I don't know talk. I

1366
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:10,600
find this crazy, so I looked
it up. When was the last time

1367
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,439
Choy was on? And it was
Spies, Lies and Allies? Yeah,

1368
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,359
Ka said that good k in the
schatrow. So season thirty seven, well,

1369
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,880
blew my mind? Is that season
took place in August to the summer

1370
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:25,079
of twenty twenty one? Oh really
so long ago? Oh my god?

1371
01:29:25,319 --> 01:29:29,640
That was the last MTV season And
then there was and there was a there

1372
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,399
was an All Stars and then a
World Championship and then and then in the

1373
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,560
USA two maybe a USA in the
Middle. Yeah, Rider dies in the

1374
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:42,479
Middle. Okay, it was last
Yeah, is so much longer? Sorry?

1375
01:29:43,159 --> 01:29:45,760
All Stars? So oh the lost
season? Yeah? Yeah, so

1376
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:50,800
they have they have filmed season four. It seems like it's just kind of

1377
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:55,319
sitting on the shelves right now.
And we were talking about yesterday with Wolf

1378
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,680
that it might just be because the
Rider's strike and the actors strike, they're

1379
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,560
kind of holding off on it to
maybe have something during a lull period.

1380
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,880
Now that the strike is finally done
and they're creating new shows and all sort

1381
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:11,600
of things, so hopefully we'll get
it soon. It seems in a sweet

1382
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:18,199
Season two. Carl Maria Laurel like
the Women's side is just completely stacked or

1383
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,760
was that just me making it up? I don't know, might be just

1384
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:25,239
me waking it making it up.
God, I would the money I would

1385
01:30:25,239 --> 01:30:29,039
pay to see that woman come back
and compete. So I came here for

1386
01:30:29,119 --> 01:30:32,520
discussing or not. But when I
went to Challenge Mania in Chicago, the

1387
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:38,359
Chicago, I think at Chicago,
and Emily was there and she said that

1388
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:43,840
originally for writer Dies, she was
supposed to be Banana's partner. Oh and

1389
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,680
then like last minute, she got
dropped and replaced with Nanni. Oh all

1390
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:51,479
right, Nanni was was perfect for
Bananas. It was really great seeing them.

1391
01:30:53,079 --> 01:30:57,439
Like I liked Writer Dies, but
I wanted to see more like pairs

1392
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:01,840
like Bananas and Nanny and like yeah
the Demen and like yeah, like actual

1393
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:06,760
people like from the Challenge who have
all these like history as opposed to just

1394
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:11,359
like a bunch of movies my sister
or like this is my husband. It's

1395
01:31:11,399 --> 01:31:15,079
like I don't like no, like
you know, it just didn't make sense.

1396
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:16,960
I agree. I think Nannie was
a better partner, but come on,

1397
01:31:17,079 --> 01:31:18,960
like, if you have Emily,
he's an eight time champion, I

1398
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:23,800
would love that. Yeah, it
would have been That was one of those

1399
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:29,239
seasons that So Sarah Rice and Susie
Meister have brought it up on their podcast,

1400
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:30,560
like many many years ago. They've
brought it up quite a few times,

1401
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,920
like they would come back to the
Challenge if the Challenge did a best

1402
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:38,199
Friends season. Yeah, And I
think Ryder Dies was the closest that we

1403
01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:42,279
will ever get. So I think
that there was a massive missed opportunity to

1404
01:31:42,319 --> 01:31:45,119
bring the two of them back because
I think that would have been interesting to

1405
01:31:45,159 --> 01:31:46,159
see. I know that you don't
need to see him, but they have

1406
01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:49,680
a massive fan base. Yeah.
Yeah, that's weird too because they're both

1407
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:54,039
terrible people and I feel like I
feel like they would have done it.

1408
01:31:54,079 --> 01:31:56,039
But also, like the little bit
i've heard them talk, it seems like

1409
01:31:56,039 --> 01:31:59,880
they have like several demands that production
has to like abide by it before they

1410
01:32:00,039 --> 01:32:00,760
even agreed to come. Yeah,
but I mean, like one of the

1411
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:05,079
one of her commands, one of
the demands is to have actual mental health

1412
01:32:05,159 --> 01:32:09,399
care for all of the people there
on the show. Terrible people. But

1413
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,680
you know that's because that's Sarah wants
that to be her She wants to provide

1414
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,840
that. That's her thing. She's
trying to get paid on the back end.

1415
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:20,880
Is she a therapist? She is, yes, okay herself. I'm

1416
01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:28,159
I'm excited to see like Kara Maria
come back for like season thirty nine.

1417
01:32:28,399 --> 01:32:32,000
She's like my favorite girl challenger.
I mean she I mean, obviously she

1418
01:32:32,279 --> 01:32:36,399
isn't perfect, but I think she's
just like a really great competitor. So

1419
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:41,560
yeah, car has been one of
my favorites for many, many many years.

1420
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:45,079
Like she her last season or two
on the Challenge, We're not great.

1421
01:32:45,079 --> 01:32:49,720
Yeah, she, she and CT
will always hold special places in my

1422
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:57,199
heart forever and always. Yeah,
I wish I wish she was more like

1423
01:32:58,039 --> 01:33:01,319
they were going to actually be part
of the season and not this like basically

1424
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:06,399
mercenaries, like especially because the rumors
that I don't know, like season forty

1425
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:11,239
might be there last Like I kind
of just want us to see like people

1426
01:33:11,319 --> 01:33:15,600
we know and love more than just
all these like new people come in,

1427
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,279
you know. I agree. I
think that's why it would be a good

1428
01:33:17,319 --> 01:33:20,600
balance. You know, I hate
thirty nine. It's all new people or

1429
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:25,680
people I actively dislike, and my
chances are going to be are going to

1430
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:30,479
be very limited in how they're featured
on the show, I think. Yeah,

1431
01:33:30,359 --> 01:33:33,800
So Uh. Anyway, it was
really nice talking to Elizabeth. You're

1432
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:38,079
great. Thank you so much.
It was really great meeting you guys,

1433
01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:42,119
and I can't wait to hear you
guys cover the next season next next time,

1434
01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:45,279
come and join us in Puria.
Yeah yeah yeah, time off grad

1435
01:33:45,319 --> 01:33:47,920
school total. What are you studying
in grad school? Well? I actually

1436
01:33:48,079 --> 01:33:54,800
just finished, but I like just
typically since I started the pop listening to

1437
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,119
the podcast like i'd been in grad
school, so I wasn't able to listen

1438
01:33:58,239 --> 01:34:02,640
live, but I studied. I
studied urban planning and cool. Wow.

1439
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:09,800
Congratulations and congratulations on finishing grad school. That's huge, Thank you, Thank

1440
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:15,840
you guys. Have night. Bye. All right, guys. Well,

1441
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:16,960
I'm putting my phone number in the
chair. I just so you guys know.

1442
01:34:17,079 --> 01:34:19,000
This is my personal cell phone number, so if you would like to

1443
01:34:19,039 --> 01:34:25,119
text me, you can fill no
calmer. Oh, I guess I'm gonna

1444
01:34:25,119 --> 01:34:29,720
go out mine as well. Hello, what's up? Hey? This is

1445
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:35,000
Chris. Congratulations on winning. What
are you going to do with the money,

1446
01:34:35,119 --> 01:34:41,760
Chris? Ah? Well, I'm
like, may, He's not what

1447
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,520
I call these I've been one of
you guys for so long time. It

1448
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,279
mayn't even been from the beginning.
It was either the first season, Oh

1449
01:34:48,319 --> 01:34:53,159
my gosh, I'm so so see, I am right there with you.

1450
01:34:53,359 --> 01:34:56,920
I started listening to them around the
same time, and here I am sitting

1451
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,600
on the actual podst that's kind of
fun. Same way I started out as

1452
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:00,520
a listener can I emailed them.
I was like, Hey, can I

1453
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,960
come hang out with you guys?
And yeah, here I am. Years

1454
01:35:03,039 --> 01:35:06,079
later, Carly, where are you? Chris? Come on? Carly creeps

1455
01:35:06,079 --> 01:35:11,840
me out this during this visit by
telling me she re listens to old episodes

1456
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,159
just to like fill dead space.
That's like, holy ship, You're listening

1457
01:35:15,159 --> 01:35:17,680
to me tell stories from six years
ago. It's not ridiculous. I'm sorry,

1458
01:35:18,359 --> 01:35:21,119
I sound like a super creeper.
It's ridiculous. And you're letting me

1459
01:35:21,159 --> 01:35:24,760
stay in your house. This could
have gone real wrong, real fast.

1460
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:29,119
And you bring up like just completely
insignificant stories from five years ago that I've

1461
01:35:29,159 --> 01:35:31,000
long forgotten and you're just like remember
that happens to him? Like, no,

1462
01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:39,920
what are you talking about? Yeah, there's so much that I've forgotten

1463
01:35:42,319 --> 01:35:46,079
to try to remember it too much
to remember everything. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

1464
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:54,720
So, Chris, what'd you think
of this? Like a yeah.

1465
01:35:55,680 --> 01:36:00,840
Yeah, i'n't get a chance to
be You're just working this is this a

1466
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:04,640
long time. It's always nice to
hear your boss because it feels like I'm

1467
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:12,079
talking to two good friends about because
hey, that is already Zach team.

1468
01:36:12,319 --> 01:36:16,479
So I'm glad that that's how you
incorporated here. What did you think of

1469
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:21,000
the final is that? Were you
rooting for Chris and Desi? I was

1470
01:36:21,159 --> 01:36:25,720
rooting for Desi from the jump because
of what happened to her with end Zo.

1471
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:32,800
That was just it was so painful
to she needs the wind more than

1472
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:40,439
anybody else. Yeah, or the
guys, Christine bother me. But you

1473
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:47,399
know, I'm always rooting for the
jump watching. Don't say bananas. Zach

1474
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:53,800
is ready for Zach is waiting for
it. Don't say bananas, please don't.

1475
01:36:53,920 --> 01:37:00,439
Chris probably at least okay, keep
talking. Yeah, we're good.

1476
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:12,359
Unlike Elizabeth. Oh yeah, give
me West, give me to Corey.

1477
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,319
Did you turn around on Chris though? About halfway through the season, I

1478
01:37:16,399 --> 01:37:19,520
was like, well, Chris is
my man, because everybody's against him seems

1479
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:24,159
normal, and so I want winning
and winning and winning absolutely. Yeah.

1480
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:31,600
West. I did not think he
was going to be but he didn't either,

1481
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:42,800
but he like his legs around him
too. I have snatched him like

1482
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,560
a fly, right, Yeah,
hilarious. That's the typical West move of

1483
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:50,000
like it looked cool for half a
second, but it was the stupidest fucking

1484
01:37:50,039 --> 01:37:54,079
thing he could have done. Did
you like if he was able to keep,

1485
01:37:54,199 --> 01:37:56,680
if he was able to get a
little bit farther out and like get

1486
01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,840
out of his reach, then like
there was some real potent on that game.

1487
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:04,479
Well but not really because it ended
immediately. Yeah it failed, but

1488
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:23,239
yeah, yeah, but yes,
so you see it was Tyler, pretty

1489
01:38:23,399 --> 01:38:28,319
pretty strong Tyler. I don't watch
Big Brothers, so I could give a

1490
01:38:28,359 --> 01:38:30,520
ship about Tyler. I can.
I can already barely remember him. He

1491
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:35,279
only exists as like this weird little
blip of just non memory to me.

1492
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:39,279
I love Tyler, but she's on
there for a while too. He was

1493
01:38:39,319 --> 01:38:42,760
there unforgettable. Yeah, I can
like picture his face, but I don't.

1494
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,159
I couldn't tell you a single thing
he said or his entire season.

1495
01:38:46,279 --> 01:38:50,720
Yeah it was. It was a
good guy to go before Josh. He

1496
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:55,359
was the last guy to go before
Josh. But his entire season got boiled

1497
01:38:55,399 --> 01:39:00,520
down to him hooking up with what's
her face? It was just I think

1498
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:06,039
we didn't have no agency in the
game because Big but just got destroyed.

1499
01:39:06,319 --> 01:39:14,119
They did every single time they went
into elimination against a survivor, the survivor

1500
01:39:14,239 --> 01:39:17,960
wanted a big Yeah. I think
the Big Brother was having a good season,

1501
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:25,560
Okay. I wish we could have
seen it because I've I've heard Big

1502
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:29,319
Brother people talk about their love of
Tyler, and I just didn't see it.

1503
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:34,439
It just did not present itself in
the challenge to me. So yeah,

1504
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,640
I kind of hope we can.
I don't know. I hate to

1505
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,800
say I hope we see him again
because I don't care. But if we

1506
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,560
see him again, I hope.
I hope I can see what everybody else

1507
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:49,600
seems to see. I'll say that, do you want Survivor? I don't

1508
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:56,680
want Survivor? Okay, bummer,
it's a better show. I don't want

1509
01:39:56,680 --> 01:40:09,159
to see Brothers going. Yeah,
there are a lot of survivors because okay,

1510
01:40:09,319 --> 01:40:11,760
yeah, I've seen people in the
Big Brother community talk about it,

1511
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:21,239
but not enough to make me wanted
to watch Big Brother. Probably, Oh,

1512
01:40:21,319 --> 01:40:25,239
we're just sorry about that. At
dinner, I was too into Big

1513
01:40:25,279 --> 01:40:28,319
Brother Season one. I was watching
the live feeds and ship like that,

1514
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,560
and I realized I can't spend my
life watching these live feeds, and so

1515
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:35,680
I've sworn off of Big Brother and
I've not been back the The episodes that

1516
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:40,359
I've caught here and there do not
interest me. Yeah, so, Chris,

1517
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:45,960
are you are your team Jaggon Matt? What is that? No?

1518
01:40:46,279 --> 01:40:51,039
Really? I like what, I
like what Suri is doing. I don't

1519
01:40:51,119 --> 01:40:55,800
like Jaggon Matt. I don't like
the fact that Jigging's only round because of

1520
01:40:55,880 --> 01:41:01,800
a uh of twist that saved him
after he was evicted because somebody got kicked

1521
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:06,800
off the show. Yeah. So, and the fact that Jack was able

1522
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:14,720
to win two and she is not
my favorite gang in the world. Okay,

1523
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,079
that's fair enough. I like,
I like them, but I agree

1524
01:41:17,159 --> 01:41:24,560
the twist to like protect jag was
a little bit unfair. Yeah. Yeah,

1525
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:30,399
everyone here is like we're talking about
watch the show? What's that?

1526
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:32,720
Do you watch the live feats at
all? Or you watch the show?

1527
01:41:33,159 --> 01:41:35,640
I watched the live feed some.
I'm not like super religious, but I

1528
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,880
like, I definitely watch him here
there, and I keep up with like

1529
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:45,079
live feed websites for what I don't
watch, right, right, So are

1530
01:41:45,119 --> 01:41:53,039
you excited for thirty nine. Yeah, yeah, even if the people only

1531
01:41:53,119 --> 01:41:56,439
show for five seconds, it's gonna
be fun to see some of those people.

1532
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:59,960
If you haven't seen in a while, come back. Yeah. Really

1533
01:42:00,119 --> 01:42:02,960
years since we've seen Kara. Yeah, yeah, I mean Carla was everybody's

1534
01:42:03,039 --> 01:42:09,279
favorite for a long time until Pauli
came into play and she I feel like

1535
01:42:09,399 --> 01:42:12,960
it was the season or two before
Polly she got kind of remember it was

1536
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,560
like Dirty thirty that she kind of
started at by Camilla really hooked up.

1537
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:21,039
Yeah, Camilla. Camilla dragged her
over to the dark side. Yeah,

1538
01:42:21,279 --> 01:42:26,399
that's very true. I think she
was just entitled. She was like,

1539
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:31,079
no, I don't need to go
in and to a new elimination. Yeah,

1540
01:42:31,119 --> 01:42:35,840
there was the season where she asked
Jordan, like, point blank,

1541
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:40,039
you know what, you don't want
me in the final and he said,

1542
01:42:40,279 --> 01:42:43,279
no, I would take anybody else
over you. You're too emotional or something

1543
01:42:43,359 --> 01:42:45,079
like that. Yeah. I think
it was it was around that same season

1544
01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:49,720
that she just kind of had her
downwards pride And I think most people work

1545
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:54,800
better as scrappy underdogs, and that's
why I like Chris this time around.

1546
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,319
Yes, I'm not sure if I
like Chris as much. If he comes

1547
01:42:57,359 --> 01:43:00,479
into the house thinking like, I'm
such a badass I won last time defending

1548
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,159
my crown. That's a little that's
a little worse to me than somebody that's

1549
01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:06,319
like, well, I'm just gonna
do my best and uh yeah, it

1550
01:43:06,359 --> 01:43:10,800
comes back that they will target him
again, probably align with him. Do

1551
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:15,600
you think because he's proven that he
can. I think he's so bad politically,

1552
01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:18,600
I think he will remain bad politically. Yeah, I think I think

1553
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:26,399
he'll be an easy guy to target
unless people that interviews that he's probably okay,

1554
01:43:27,119 --> 01:43:30,239
Yeah, it's too bad because I
really like him, but it's hard

1555
01:43:30,359 --> 01:43:33,039
to beat what he's done. I
mean, you will survivor first time,

1556
01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:36,560
you win the challenge first time.
Uh, maybe it's time to just ride

1557
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:40,680
off. Yeah, it's like you
want, you want a ton of money,

1558
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:46,479
Just go live your life now and
enjoy exactly. So all right,

1559
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,199
Chris, it's been fun talking to
you man. Yeah, yeah, I'm

1560
01:43:49,239 --> 01:43:56,399
great talking to you guys. Thanks
for so yeah, for sure. Well

1561
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:58,840
don't get used to it because we're
not doing this again until the finale of

1562
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:00,439
thirty nine. To say, if
you guys push them enough, maybe we

1563
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:05,079
could convince him and Wolf and move
it to Saturday. No, No,

1564
01:44:05,279 --> 01:44:10,279
I don't want on a Saturday.
Yeah, I've got Fridays were hard enough,

1565
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,439
Yeah, they were, like I
mean, it was hard enough trying

1566
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:15,680
to get this Saturday to work.
That's true. Yeah, I couldn't get

1567
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:20,279
rid of my kids, That's true. Sounds so bad. All right,

1568
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:26,119
good talking to you, thanks Chris. Yeah we got another one. Oh

1569
01:44:27,079 --> 01:44:32,520
hello, Hi, Hi, my
name is Carly. Hi, Carle and

1570
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:39,000
Carly. Is this the Carly that
won fat my best tie? You know,

1571
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:42,039
I've been following you guys for a
while. I was sitting in the

1572
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:44,800
chat. I just really wasn't saying
much because I'm at I was at work.

1573
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:49,359
I just got what's your job?
What do you do? I work

1574
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:58,079
for Amazon? Where you located?
I'm located in Texas, Texas as from

1575
01:44:58,159 --> 01:45:02,000
Texas well part I used to.
That's this. I'll pass all right anywhere

1576
01:45:02,039 --> 01:45:09,960
near where I lived, that's from
I'll passa Do you ever run into him?

1577
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:15,159
Do you ever deliver Amazon packages?
Too? How is me to?

1578
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:26,640
That's a man right there, that's
a man. He is he is nouris

1579
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:30,000
right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he's just noise, which I don't

1580
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,439
know. I don't understand. Hey, you know she had she had a

1581
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:38,479
lot of people looking at her her
first season. So yeah, I can't

1582
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:41,399
say I'm a little all that surprise
that she I think that's like her.

1583
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:45,000
I'm okay, but it does that
seems not the combination I would put together.

1584
01:45:45,199 --> 01:45:48,199
Yeah, I don't remember enough about
her because I've watched her in Rossio.

1585
01:45:48,359 --> 01:45:55,439
Just because doesn't she like black guys. I would have no idea that

1586
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:02,159
it's okay, But I don't actually
know. I also Nelson and the Two,

1587
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,840
another black guy that was on her
season of Are You the One?

1588
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:08,680
Then she did a black guy that
was on The Bachelor. I think,

1589
01:46:09,119 --> 01:46:12,720
so he's never like when she was
with Jordan that that just took me by

1590
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:19,479
surprise. I was I was just
thinking she was looking up with Johnny Middlebrook's

1591
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:27,560
dad. They're not like her type
is beautiful. Blackness is still a flavor

1592
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:40,039
of chocolate, just not like dark
chocolate. So you're so, what did

1593
01:46:40,079 --> 01:46:42,600
you think of the finale here?
Did you? Were you rooting for Chris

1594
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:49,720
and Dosi? Absolutely, I wasn't
really a fan of Chris winning Survivor because

1595
01:46:50,359 --> 01:46:55,359
he wasn't there. He was on
the edge of extinction. And me and

1596
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:58,239
me and my best friend, we
were big Survivor players, and when he

1597
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:02,600
won, we were pissed. All
really wow, It's like how you guys

1598
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:06,720
said on one of your podcasts,
like how the Redemption House, Like if

1599
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:11,199
Polly and Natalie came back and won
that season, I would have been upset

1600
01:47:11,239 --> 01:47:14,119
if Paully and Natalie won, if
they was on the Redemption House the whole

1601
01:47:14,159 --> 01:47:15,920
season. Yeah, okay, I
can, I can. I can see

1602
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:19,680
that because yeah, I am Natalie
went a final reckon. Oh yeah,

1603
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:23,800
I would have been I would have
been fucking livid. Yeah. Were you

1604
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:29,039
a were you a Devon's fan on
that season Survivor? Sort of? All

1605
01:47:29,119 --> 01:47:33,560
right? Well, and that's why
to me, that's why I think Chris

1606
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:38,399
deserved to win that season, because
Devon's was going to win. There was

1607
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:42,640
no question. Absolutely. He played
the best game, like one of the

1608
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:46,359
best Survivor games of all time.
He dominated that whole game. And so

1609
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:48,520
when Chris came back from the Edge
of Extinction, he said, like,

1610
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,920
listen, I can't beat Devons.
Nobody can. So all I can do

1611
01:47:53,079 --> 01:47:56,640
is give up my immunity and battle
him in fire and try to get him

1612
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,439
out. Because he was the only
one that could have beat him in fire,

1613
01:48:00,159 --> 01:48:02,560
and so Chris was the one that
took out the guy that was going

1614
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,840
to win. Uh And so to
me, that's like, well, then

1615
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:09,800
who else is it? Because I
can't even remember the other two finalists because

1616
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:14,000
they were also just sort of they
didn't do much. M yeah, yeah,

1617
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,399
yeah, Chris, like everybody,
and that was the first and the

1618
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:20,359
last time they did on Survivor.
Everybody from the first person that was out

1619
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:24,880
to the last person got to vote
because usually always get the people at the

1620
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:28,039
end of vote. So Chris was
on the edge of extasion with the rest

1621
01:48:28,039 --> 01:48:31,720
of the eliminated losers. So that's
not any one. Yeah, yeah,

1622
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:34,399
so he did what he could.
I think his win is deserved. I

1623
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:38,479
understand why people don't like it.
He was voted out, which is you

1624
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,279
shouldn't vote out and then still be
you stilldn't be able to win. But

1625
01:48:41,399 --> 01:48:44,039
it was he played by the rules. He won. But also people just

1626
01:48:44,079 --> 01:48:46,199
set like Chris was about out second, but Devn's was a vote out third,

1627
01:48:46,319 --> 01:48:49,800
and then Devn's came back in at
the merge. Oh I do forget

1628
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:53,239
that. Yeah, you're right,
like that is them. We're voted out

1629
01:48:53,239 --> 01:48:56,560
and then came back. Yeah,
Devins came back a little earlier though.

1630
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,840
Chris like, if you play a
really really good game and and you urge

1631
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:03,760
your spot, then that's why I
respect Devin Moore than Chris. That's the

1632
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,760
point. Oh, Devin's played a
better game, but he didn't make it

1633
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,600
to the end. So you don't
get to win. It's just you don't

1634
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:15,960
you you don't get to windable.
Yeah. So, but I was very

1635
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:20,640
happy that Desi won. She felt
like she got well. I really felt

1636
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:24,880
like she would have won last season
because she's very smart and she probably could

1637
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:29,000
have done that Sudoku puzzle. But
in Zo, I just I didn't like

1638
01:49:29,279 --> 01:49:31,760
Zo at all. I didn't like
his bald hit. I didn't we Hey,

1639
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:39,159
don't talk bad about bald dads.
Please let's watch let's watch the ball

1640
01:49:39,239 --> 01:49:45,720
dad. I didn't like him there, yeaous. Yeah, so I'm glad

1641
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:46,720
that. Yeah, so I feel
like that was a record. Really I

1642
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,479
would have been because the way they
were playing it up, correct me if

1643
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:55,039
I'm wrong, the way they were
playing it that Chris and MICHAELA were gonna

1644
01:49:55,079 --> 01:50:00,760
win. Yeah, it did,
because they really didn't touch on Disney at

1645
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:03,800
all. Yep, they touched on
Michayla those last couple of episodes, So

1646
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:08,680
as a as a Survivor fan,
you weren't rooting for Michayla. Oh,

1647
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,119
I definitely was. I love Michayla. I loved I watched Michaela's season.

1648
01:50:12,199 --> 01:50:15,560
That was the season her and Jay
were on Survivor's Millennials versus gen X.

1649
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:17,960
Yeah, that was actually my first
season. I watched all the way through

1650
01:50:18,039 --> 01:50:21,079
because for some reason, I can
never finish Survivor because it goes on for

1651
01:50:21,119 --> 01:50:26,720
a while. But I was rooting
for Michayla. But it was hard to

1652
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,720
root for somebody because you like Dezzy
deserted, but Michayla's coming back after being

1653
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,000
first boot. So anybody that comes
out and be a first boot and is

1654
01:50:33,039 --> 01:50:35,720
able to play a great game and
get to the end I always referd too.

1655
01:50:36,159 --> 01:50:39,880
And I felt like she got done
very, very wrong on the first

1656
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:43,560
season. I forgot what that girl
names was that called her out about that

1657
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:45,840
list and then got her targeted,
and I just wanted to make I want

1658
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:50,159
to michay Kayla back ever since then. Yeah, same, I loved Michayla

1659
01:50:50,399 --> 01:50:56,800
her two seasons and uh, I
was, I was just so disappointed when

1660
01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,560
she was first out of whatever season
that was of the Challenge. There was

1661
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:05,319
Spies and Little Spies, season one
of those does all blend together? Yeah,

1662
01:51:05,359 --> 01:51:09,520
there's like double agents and there's like
all those things blended together to me.

1663
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:13,439
But god, they thought with the
spots, thank god, yes,

1664
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:15,560
yes, thank god. But she
crushed it this season. She crushed it.

1665
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,359
She proved she's a force to be
reckoned with. I hope we see

1666
01:51:18,359 --> 01:51:21,880
her back. I hope she does
just as well next time. Uh yeah,

1667
01:51:23,279 --> 01:51:26,840
because people like that didn't. I
just remember on Twitter and on Reddit,

1668
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:30,359
people who haven't seen a Kaylan survivor
and just watched her on the Challenge

1669
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:33,039
for saying like, I don't know
how you guys think she's the strong player.

1670
01:51:33,159 --> 01:51:36,039
It's like, do you guys can
see the macaeleb that I saw Survivor?

1671
01:51:36,279 --> 01:51:39,720
Let her actually do a Challenge season. She can dominate, and she

1672
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:43,399
proved everybody wrong the season and she
did great. I agree. I don't

1673
01:51:43,399 --> 01:51:45,039
think anybody, I don't think any
Challenge fans can doubt her now. She

1674
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:50,279
she dominated politically, athletically, she
did really really much, very rare that

1675
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:56,159
especially now in the earl now with
the newer season of The Challenge. Very

1676
01:51:56,279 --> 01:52:00,520
rare that a new first book gets
brought back, so I'm glad, but

1677
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:02,479
a lot of people wanted her to
well big It happened for Big T as

1678
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:06,359
well. I gotta remember Big T
got brought back Carl Maria too. She

1679
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:12,760
was first Bananas, was first foot, he was first boot on the on

1680
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:15,279
the War of the World's one of
those World of the World seasons. I

1681
01:52:15,319 --> 01:52:19,880
think, yeah, Big T,
Yeah, who will come back and just

1682
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:24,039
dominates. Just Big Ta hasn't been
dominating, that's right, because I stole

1683
01:52:24,119 --> 01:52:26,920
her nickname. When she was I
said, we'll never see her again.

1684
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:30,159
So now I'm Big T. I'm
taking that one. And then now she's

1685
01:52:30,199 --> 01:52:34,720
a beloved happened at Josh because he
got Vodolf first and then someone got injured,

1686
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:39,359
so they brought him back for the
World. Yeah, not reminded me

1687
01:52:39,399 --> 01:52:43,479
of that. Not a Josh fan
in a different universe from I've never seen

1688
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:47,560
Josh again, that's true. Do
you think I didn't like him on Big

1689
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:50,319
Brother and when I saw him on
The Challenge, I just he was just

1690
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:56,479
more annoying. Imagine watching both tim
watching Imagine watching a whole season of Josh

1691
01:52:57,399 --> 01:53:00,479
I'm not gonna imagine that. I
refuse, cannot do it. Were you

1692
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:08,119
a Paul fan? Absolutely not?
In there a Big Brother where I didn't

1693
01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:13,239
know who was going to win because
Paul was just mean to everybody and Josh

1694
01:53:13,399 --> 01:53:17,680
was just the cry baby asshole,
so I didn't know it could have been

1695
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:25,520
Christmas. No, I hated everybody. I really thought when it got down

1696
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:28,119
the final three that both the boys
would take Christmas to the end and she

1697
01:53:28,159 --> 01:53:31,000
would win. Oh you're talking about
that person. I thought you were talking

1698
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:34,039
about the holiday. Sorry, I
had to step away to let the dog

1699
01:53:34,159 --> 01:53:39,119
out. No, I was just
Christmas. I was listening. I still

1700
01:53:39,119 --> 01:53:43,039
didn't get it, Okay, I
followed out, Oh, yeah, Christmas

1701
01:53:43,079 --> 01:53:45,159
is a person. It's a horrible
person that was on Big Brother Josh season.

1702
01:53:45,319 --> 01:53:49,239
She was Josh's ass as well.
Well, that sounds like a very

1703
01:53:49,319 --> 01:53:58,920
fun place to be. Girls got
a crash on. I never noticed how

1704
01:53:59,119 --> 01:54:01,680
skinny s fishies legs were like.
They zoomed in on us that he does

1705
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:08,319
have body. Yeah, chicken legs. He does body seemed FESTI they've got

1706
01:54:08,359 --> 01:54:11,199
they've been doing all night. He
skips leg day at the gym. Obviously

1707
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:15,199
every time he was on Big Brother
FESSI was had thick, very thick legs,

1708
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:17,800
and then when I got on the
Challenge, I never noticed it until

1709
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:21,399
he pointed it out on the episode. I honestly, I feel like it's

1710
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:26,039
this season. I feel like in
previous seasons, when he first came on

1711
01:54:26,119 --> 01:54:30,840
the Challenge, when Amanda was still
on the show, she was talking about

1712
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:32,840
how hot he was, and I'm
sitting there right along with her in my

1713
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:38,800
house going FESTI is fun and he
is built, and he is tall,

1714
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:44,319
and then he opened his mouth and
became an asshole. But he was he

1715
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,920
was built the last few years,
and then this season he is just he

1716
01:54:48,039 --> 01:54:51,119
has lost all of it. Yeah, all of the tone is gone,

1717
01:54:51,199 --> 01:54:55,520
all of the muscle is gone.
What the body is Yeah, I mean

1718
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:59,000
he's still he's still a good looking
guy, but I mean he's still got

1719
01:54:59,039 --> 01:55:01,239
that mouth on him and I can't
deal with that. That brings him down

1720
01:55:01,239 --> 01:55:09,520
about Yes, yes it does.
You guys was there? You guys said

1721
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:13,159
that there was like an overnight portion
that was took them out. Yes,

1722
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:16,840
yeah, they had to They had
to count to an hour within five minutes

1723
01:55:17,119 --> 01:55:19,760
and they had to do it three
times, so they stood on a they

1724
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:25,039
stood on stumps and kind of it
probably would have been born to eighteen thousand.

1725
01:55:25,119 --> 01:55:27,239
Yeah, I have a feeling it
probably would have been really boring to

1726
01:55:27,319 --> 01:55:30,000
watch. And they have they've done
and them edited it right though I don't

1727
01:55:30,039 --> 01:55:34,479
know they have they've they might they
might have been able to, but they

1728
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:36,920
have done that sort of thing with
challenges in the past, like there was

1729
01:55:39,039 --> 01:55:45,840
when Sarah and Jordan were paired in
not Rivals in Yes, Thank You,

1730
01:55:46,279 --> 01:55:50,159
in Exes they had there was a
whole biking challenge or no, maybe it

1731
01:55:50,159 --> 01:55:53,840
was Nexus. There was one of
the challenges. There was a whole biking

1732
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:56,640
challenge that was cut out Dirty thirty
I think it was. Was it Dirty

1733
01:55:56,680 --> 01:55:59,279
thirty? Okay, it might have
been Dirty thirty. There have been more

1734
01:55:59,359 --> 01:56:02,279
than a few seasons of the challenge
where there's been an entire segment cut out

1735
01:56:02,319 --> 01:56:09,680
of the the the All Stars All
Stars Too controversial thing where they cut something

1736
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:15,720
out of All Stars Too. Oh
was that when they were when everyone was

1737
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:18,199
having trouble trying to open the safes
at the end? I think so.

1738
01:56:18,319 --> 01:56:25,119
I remember MJ went on a Challenge
interview podcast and said that there was some

1739
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:29,479
other part and then Janelle reached out
and said what other part was there?

1740
01:56:29,479 --> 01:56:32,359
And he just kept like trying to
talk over it. So apparently there was

1741
01:56:32,399 --> 01:56:36,600
some part in the final that they
didn't show us, which is why MJ

1742
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:41,720
got to the other half of it
so quick. Yeah, so I just

1743
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:45,920
want there was a big controversial thing
that everyone talks about that you were talking

1744
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,319
about that. Yeah, remember that? Yeah, and MJ is never gonna

1745
01:56:48,359 --> 01:56:50,359
well, they're never going to say
because he's one, so he's never going

1746
01:56:50,439 --> 01:56:54,079
to say what it is. Yeah, that's buried in the history of the

1747
01:56:54,199 --> 01:56:58,479
Challenge. I don't think we'll ever
know. But I remember when they're whining

1748
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,800
sort of teainted MJ and John for
that season. Yeah, if people keep

1749
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:05,319
saying how Durell and Janelle basically are
the real winners or something that I just

1750
01:57:05,319 --> 01:57:10,359
remember they said that it was some
s there was another step that wasn't aired,

1751
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:14,359
and MJ came out and opened that
can of worms and Janelle put it

1752
01:57:14,439 --> 01:57:16,800
on blast and everything. That's what
I remember, right, Yep, Yeah,

1753
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:19,359
that sounding familiar. I don't remember
exactly what the controversy was, but

1754
01:57:19,399 --> 01:57:24,800
I remember it's. Yeah, it's
it's a hot debate there. So yeah,

1755
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:27,399
but I really I really did enjoy
the season. It's been a while

1756
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:30,640
since I've been able to enjoy a
challenge season. I always but they do

1757
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:33,560
this with every season too, that
it gets really great at the beginning,

1758
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:38,920
like the first before, I was
really good, the middle starts falling because

1759
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:42,000
they always give us a twist,
which I guess the twists are mandatory every

1760
01:57:42,039 --> 01:57:45,319
season though, and then it just
begets it becomes blow and I I just

1761
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,479
it's been a while. The last
season I was able to enjoy all the

1762
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:53,319
way through was War of the World's
One. Yeah. War of the World's

1763
01:57:53,359 --> 01:57:56,399
One was good. That was a
good season. I really was. Yeah.

1764
01:57:56,399 --> 01:57:59,920
I realized they had so many entertaining
personality Yeah, and they had,

1765
01:58:00,039 --> 01:58:03,880
and then a lot of them.
Miller finale, it's crazy are now canceled

1766
01:58:04,039 --> 01:58:09,840
Arkdale. That's true. Yeah,
that's true. I mean problematic, But

1767
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:12,359
they may also be part of the
reason why we all enjoyed that season so

1768
01:58:12,439 --> 01:58:18,199
much, because there was so much
really intense drama. The Predator predator uh

1769
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:24,840
bear, Oh yeah, I forgot
about it. Shit, he's probably the

1770
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,319
worst of all of them. Frankly, Yeah, that's true. He's in

1771
01:58:27,439 --> 01:58:30,920
jail now, Yeah, he's in
prison now. Yeah. Yeah, it's

1772
01:58:31,359 --> 01:58:35,479
revenge porn is not an okay thing
to publishing revenge of another challenger? Yeah,

1773
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:44,800
Georgia there Yeah, well man,
that man. Oh so apparently I

1774
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,199
didn't know. So the new season
of the Challenge, your other Carlos said,

1775
01:58:47,239 --> 01:58:50,600
the new seasonal Challenge has already aired
already thirty nine. No, so

1776
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:55,239
thirty nine is about it's going to
start this coming week and then but it

1777
01:58:55,479 --> 01:58:59,239
zero aired. Yeah, episode zero
has aired, So that's the intro to

1778
01:58:59,359 --> 01:59:04,359
all of the Challengers. But All
Stars four has already been taped. It's

1779
01:59:04,399 --> 01:59:09,159
been taped for like six or eight
months, and it's just sitting in the

1780
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:14,520
fuck is All Stars four coming with? Why? Probably after? Have no

1781
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:17,840
idea? We need it, we
need it. Remember I thought I thought

1782
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:21,920
it was going to air after World
Championship because we had a whole two month

1783
01:59:23,039 --> 01:59:26,560
break. Yeah, it was a
good time out in Yeah, I remember

1784
01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:30,880
when World Championship was still airing,
they had posted a promo of USA two

1785
01:59:30,439 --> 01:59:34,960
that was still filming. Yeah,
well, where's All Stars four? Yeah,

1786
01:59:35,439 --> 01:59:39,039
it'll be interesting. It may end
up being one of those things that

1787
01:59:39,159 --> 01:59:41,760
they do season thirty nine and then
they finally give it to us. But

1788
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:45,239
by that point, in time,
it'll be like a year plus since they

1789
01:59:45,319 --> 01:59:47,439
filmed it. Ye, Cam,
you'll probably have her second baby, butter.

1790
01:59:48,319 --> 01:59:53,119
Yeah, that's true, but it's
very true. I heard something on

1791
01:59:53,199 --> 01:59:57,039
Reddity. I heard I could be
wrong. They said that something happened during

1792
01:59:57,079 --> 02:00:01,039
the season where like a conversation came
up about paul tics and racism that they

1793
02:00:01,239 --> 02:00:04,199
think that the fans are not gonna
like or want to cancel the show.

1794
02:00:04,279 --> 02:00:09,119
But they used to show, then't
They used to show stuff like that back

1795
02:00:09,159 --> 02:00:13,840
in the day when these conversations would
come up. I mean, the the

1796
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:15,399
show was gonna get canceled after that
because they don't think people are going to

1797
02:00:15,479 --> 02:00:20,760
agree or something like. Yeah,
they showed it many many many years ago,

1798
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:26,560
the choral and the miz when he
said some rather racist things, not

1799
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:30,000
rather some very racist things around her
and she schooled him on that. Well,

1800
02:00:30,039 --> 02:00:34,880
that's the world one that was a
huge fight about racism in the street

1801
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:38,680
Julie and Kevin. Yeah, that
likes to be like a corner set of

1802
02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:41,000
reality TV is they're like, we're
gonna, like put a racist in the

1803
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,600
house, We're gonna put a black
person, We're gonna put a homophobic person

1804
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:45,199
house we're gonna put a gay person
with them, like and that way they

1805
02:00:45,239 --> 02:00:48,680
can like you know, talk and
discuss their differences and like learn each other's

1806
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:51,039
sides. And yeah, I think
it. I think it was the season

1807
02:00:51,079 --> 02:00:58,039
that Camilla said some real racist ship
to to Nelly and Lee Roy and too

1808
02:00:58,119 --> 02:01:02,119
various other things and just lost her
app fucking mind that they finally, yeah,

1809
02:01:02,159 --> 02:01:04,520
when they when they covered that up. I think that was kind of

1810
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:11,119
the the final Yeah, that's the
last time. But then also we have

1811
02:01:11,319 --> 02:01:15,960
now canceled culture. Now the smallest
things make people can't on TV. So

1812
02:01:15,039 --> 02:01:18,640
I guess if if they if they're
like favorites say something, I think they're

1813
02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:21,960
word if their favorite person says something, they're gonna have to be forced to

1814
02:01:23,119 --> 02:01:26,800
like put them. Like you saw
what happened with Jordan, Like they fired

1815
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:30,239
everybody else who had like a problematic
task, but they said, Jordan,

1816
02:01:30,359 --> 02:01:31,560
you just got to take some time
off because they know they just don't want

1817
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:34,720
to get rid of him. Yeah, maybe it's that they just don't want

1818
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:40,279
because imagine if like CT says something
really bad, they do not want to

1819
02:01:40,319 --> 02:01:43,880
cant the the fire CET. So
they're probably like if Johnny Bana said something

1820
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:46,039
like that, they're not gonna fire
him, but they're gonna they're gonna figure

1821
02:01:46,039 --> 02:01:49,359
out a way to put him on
a pause. And I mean, obviously

1822
02:01:49,399 --> 02:01:54,439
we've seen some bad stuff on you
know, like people say batstup on the

1823
02:01:54,479 --> 02:01:57,199
Challenge, But Johnny's been, you
know, seeing that a lot on his

1824
02:01:57,279 --> 02:02:00,560
podcast this season, like these Surviving
and Big Barripal come in're getting canceled,

1825
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:03,600
and Johnny's like, just say whatever
you want there, Like, if it's

1826
02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:06,600
that bad, they're not going to
show it. Ye, because like all

1827
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:09,680
of us on the Challenge, we
we canceled. If they showed half the

1828
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:17,359
stuff we said in this house,
yeah, I'd be interesting to I see

1829
02:02:17,399 --> 02:02:20,880
them the new season. Fucking Michelle
was back. Yeah, we talked about

1830
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:28,119
that earlier. You're excited to see
Michelle. I was. I love Michelle

1831
02:02:28,159 --> 02:02:32,319
and I loved her on the Winners
at War. I then when she came

1832
02:02:32,359 --> 02:02:36,880
onto the Challenge, I started seeing
why because I didn't understand why people didn't

1833
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:40,960
like her. Mind you, I
don't know these people in real life.

1834
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:43,680
I'm just going based on what I
see on TV. What are you talking

1835
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:45,880
about? These people are our best
friends, we all know all of them.

1836
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:49,279
I don't. I don't. I
don't care to know, Johnny,

1837
02:02:49,319 --> 02:02:54,119
I don't care to know anything.
Yeah, I guess that, Ye,

1838
02:02:54,319 --> 02:02:58,399
but I'm seeing I'm starting to see
why people don't like Michelle because she's like

1839
02:02:58,680 --> 02:03:01,520
very like emotion, you know,
and she's like very It's like when she

1840
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:04,239
talks, it seems like she doesn't
know what's gonna come out of her mouth.

1841
02:03:04,279 --> 02:03:09,880
She just stitch damn Michelle down.
She's become very annoying, and I

1842
02:03:10,039 --> 02:03:14,039
just like, I get well,
producers must really really love her or something

1843
02:03:14,119 --> 02:03:15,279
like that. I just like,
I think I could have gone another season

1844
02:03:15,279 --> 02:03:18,479
without seeing Michelle. I guess she
has, but she hasn't. Wont Like,

1845
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:20,880
how do you win a show like
Survivor? Michelle will come on this

1846
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:25,079
show and and do terrible. I
agree. I feel like Michelle might be

1847
02:03:25,159 --> 02:03:29,159
one of the people that came from
another show that has had like the biggest

1848
02:03:29,319 --> 02:03:32,560
drop and like respect and credibility like
have Seene. Yeah, I know people

1849
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:38,079
love love Michelle ont Survive everyone loved
her and you challenge people are just doing

1850
02:03:38,319 --> 02:03:43,000
because on this news I saw a
clip where Big T said that someone told

1851
02:03:43,039 --> 02:03:45,800
her not to trust Michelle, Like, who are people that are telling you

1852
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:49,520
guys not to trust her. Yeah, unless she said they're just seeing shows

1853
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:53,199
and see how she acts, and
maybe they're going off of that. But

1854
02:03:53,319 --> 02:04:00,159
I can understand because Michelle does some
snaky stuff and yeah, she tears throw

1855
02:04:00,199 --> 02:04:01,680
it away, and I said,
I cannot with tears, like this is

1856
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:06,960
not the Josh Michelle Christ should.
She has definitely proven to be a little

1857
02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:10,920
two faced. Yeah, yeah,
exactly. Yeah, But I'm just I'm

1858
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:13,720
just not excited. I'm like Tim, Tim, I don't know if I'm

1859
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:15,399
excited about thirty nine. It seems
like it's going to be a fucking flock.

1860
02:04:16,039 --> 02:04:18,720
Yeah. I mean, I'll watch
it and I got my fingers crossed.

1861
02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:21,079
It's gonna be good, But I
am not excited. I'm usually so

1862
02:04:21,239 --> 02:04:27,359
excited at the start of a dud
Ready listeners, Yeah, why could they

1863
02:04:27,439 --> 02:04:30,239
have like back in the day where
it was like four or five winners.

1864
02:04:30,279 --> 02:04:32,359
Why is it only going to be
one winner? Yeah? Yeah, I

1865
02:04:32,399 --> 02:04:34,760
wish I would go back to you
because we would have more winners. If

1866
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:38,960
they want to do a Battle of
the Battle of the Champs or Evasion of

1867
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:41,800
the Champions again, yeah, but
I guess this season is if they want

1868
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:44,600
to do another Battle of the Chance, the invasion of the Champs give us

1869
02:04:44,720 --> 02:04:46,720
more winners, like, because I
don't know how many female champs can come

1870
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:50,880
back that are willing to come back. We have Tory and Casey. Yeah,

1871
02:04:51,399 --> 02:04:54,680
and Casey might be in a little
bit of a retirement too, m

1872
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:58,560
hm. So that's from what I've
heard. Thirty nine is set up to

1873
02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:02,640
get a bunch of dew winners so
that forty can be a winner's season because

1874
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:04,920
as of right now, we don't
have enough winners that want to come back

1875
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:10,039
and do it or can because like
d is a winner who's been canceled,

1876
02:05:10,079 --> 02:05:15,399
I'm gonna see her again. Jenny's
just really boring. I think her again

1877
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:18,840
the same Jenny is is just like
Hasey. Well, why hasn't Jenny been

1878
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:21,760
back? She freaking won. Yeah, Jenny should have been back, but

1879
02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:26,560
she's Yes, she's just been forgotten
because she's just boring. We can't say

1880
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:30,760
the Born because Casey is boring.
Yeah, Born, But Jenny. I

1881
02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:34,119
think Jenny could give us a little
something because her coming back as a champion,

1882
02:05:34,199 --> 02:05:38,800
we can see how her attitude changes. Casey, her attitude didn't change

1883
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:41,760
after coming to champion. She was
still the same. She's still boring,

1884
02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:45,119
she's still fucking blah. But yeah, they're gonna, I think they're gonna.

1885
02:05:45,119 --> 02:05:49,239
They're trying to they're trying to give
us a good editing with the season

1886
02:05:49,359 --> 02:05:53,920
thirty nine. But they can give
us a good trailer, but the season

1887
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:58,119
can be terrible and I'm just not
excited. It's too many, too many

1888
02:05:58,199 --> 02:06:00,680
fucking terrible people. And they're like, I really don't want to see I

1889
02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:03,039
don't want to see the people from
UK Challenge. I don't want to see

1890
02:06:03,079 --> 02:06:06,880
them. I don't want to see
half of the people from last season on

1891
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:15,359
Seat thirty nine. I heard they
dropped Johnny Middlebrooks, Like john middle sposed

1892
02:06:15,359 --> 02:06:18,520
be on the season, and they
dropped him last minute, like the Johnny

1893
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:21,960
and Raven Johnny. Yeah, Johnny
middle Rooks that he was supposed to be

1894
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:25,640
on the season, and they dropped
him for some unknown reason and brought some

1895
02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:29,439
some some terrible person that we don't
care. Yeah, most of the thirty

1896
02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:31,359
ninety casts I don't care about.
I'll still listen to your guys' podcast,

1897
02:06:31,439 --> 02:06:34,800
of course. I'll listen to your
guys talk. With the way that Tim

1898
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:39,000
is going, women not be having
a podcast next season, ye double episodes

1899
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:45,760
in. It might just be fucking
guys, I'm away, thank you,

1900
02:06:46,439 --> 02:06:48,880
I'll sit the season out, thank
you. I'll be back for forty.

1901
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:57,159
It might just be Carlyn and I
think we'll somehow. It'll be absolutely terrible

1902
02:06:57,239 --> 02:07:00,439
every episode. Yeah you so,
Tim, You're gonna be upset that they

1903
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:04,359
give us CT for like five seconds
and then that's it. Yes, I'm

1904
02:07:04,399 --> 02:07:08,479
gonna be Yes, I'm gonna be
devastated. I saw. I mean,

1905
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:12,760
the trailer is really good and Jordan
had some some badass line where he's like,

1906
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:17,000
I hope I see you down here
brother or something cool. Oh,

1907
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:19,840
that'll be fun. That's right.
That was really fun to see that.

1908
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:24,239
But I worry that's like I didn't
see it. I didn't see it at

1909
02:07:24,239 --> 02:07:26,199
first, but then want to show
up the trail like, oh, I

1910
02:07:26,279 --> 02:07:30,600
look exactly. But I worry that's
all we're going to see of Jordan.

1911
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:34,960
That that's really that's the whole thing
that Jordan does. But I guess because

1912
02:07:35,159 --> 02:07:38,640
Jordan, because I think they because
I think he was supposed to be on

1913
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:42,279
last season Emanuel and then something with
his partner. I would love to see

1914
02:07:42,399 --> 02:07:45,479
him and Jordan's on his season together, not Jordan's gonna be there for five

1915
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:47,319
seconds and then we don't see him. I see him in Jordan's saw by

1916
02:07:47,399 --> 02:07:51,520
side. Yeah, honestly, i'd
be I'd be kind of surprised if Emmanuel

1917
02:07:51,560 --> 02:07:55,640
doesn't do really well on this coming
season. He did really well on his

1918
02:07:55,960 --> 02:08:00,079
season. Yeah, he was Tori's
ass, which I don't like. I

1919
02:08:00,159 --> 02:08:05,239
mean, yeah, they was both
disappointment. Oh god, I don't even

1920
02:08:05,279 --> 02:08:07,479
know why Sebastian was not was on
this season, like he was such a

1921
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:11,119
flop of a character. He was
like he was terrible on The Survivor,

1922
02:08:11,199 --> 02:08:16,319
like terrible. I don't remember him. I never watched so long. He

1923
02:08:16,439 --> 02:08:20,760
had long blonde hair. He cut
his hair off. That's why you probably

1924
02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:22,520
don't. I forgot the season,
but I remember his face. But he

1925
02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:28,199
had long blonde hair. Ghost changed
his hair color. But he was not

1926
02:08:28,359 --> 02:08:31,119
He had like a like a little
show mins on there too, But it

1927
02:08:31,239 --> 02:08:35,800
was really that interesting. Yeah.
I think he's a boring person. He's

1928
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:39,720
just a boring person. He's a
try hard kind of guy. I just

1929
02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:43,800
would not. I have no patience
for Sebastian. Will we want to see

1930
02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:48,600
Dusty on thirty nine? Ye?
Dusty? Actually no, I didn't.

1931
02:08:48,439 --> 02:08:52,960
Oh god, he creep me the
funk out with how how Banana's ass he

1932
02:08:54,239 --> 02:08:56,720
was. I feel like a lot
of dusty, dusty thirty nine. I

1933
02:08:56,760 --> 02:09:03,000
didn't know that he really thought.
Yeah, that's not that's not that's not

1934
02:09:03,119 --> 02:09:05,840
that old. That's not that old
old, younger than bananas and nails,

1935
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:09,960
like, oh, I love bananas
so much? Like how old are you?

1936
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:16,640
I'm a thirty nine year old who
loves bananas. I can relate.

1937
02:09:16,079 --> 02:09:20,119
Have you written Bananas a letter like
that fucking weird ass a letter he wrote?

1938
02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:24,760
No, yeah, you're on the
show. Oh it's weird that that

1939
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:28,479
was unbelievably weird. Thank you for
bringing the dusty back up. I'd forgotten

1940
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:30,840
how fucking weird that was. I
mean, Tim, you got to witness

1941
02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:33,279
the first time I met bananas.
You got to see my like chuck moment

1942
02:09:33,479 --> 02:09:37,319
that got the Banana camp immediately.
Yeah, Carla Carlo, we need you

1943
02:09:37,399 --> 02:09:41,640
to meet Banana. Tell us how
your time went. Oh god, it's

1944
02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:45,920
hanging on the Orlando Airport forever,
it'll happen. No, No, I

1945
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:48,960
need Wolfe to meet him and see
if Yeah, Wolfe says, I'll call

1946
02:09:50,039 --> 02:09:52,239
him a bitch to his face.
And I'm like, well, you would

1947
02:09:52,399 --> 02:09:54,359
never do that, You would never
do that. Well, there's too nice

1948
02:09:54,399 --> 02:09:56,800
of a person to do that.
Yeah, speaking of him, we should

1949
02:09:56,800 --> 02:10:01,119
give him on the phone. Yeah, we should. You know he wouldn't

1950
02:10:01,159 --> 02:10:05,199
he would wolf He's way too nice
of a person. Don't say nice.

1951
02:10:05,239 --> 02:10:09,760
He's a pussy's yes, he's not
even bite he's not, he's nothing.

1952
02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:11,439
He all right, we're gonna let
you go. I'm gonna I'm gonna call

1953
02:10:11,479 --> 02:10:15,600
Wolfy. You can at least hear
him here. Oh, thank you,

1954
02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:20,920
nice talking. Bye. All right, I know somebody else was trying to

1955
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:24,880
call. Hang on a second,
I'm gonna call Wolfy. I appreciate everyone

1956
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:31,000
calling in Sonna. Hear them say
such great things about like how much we

1957
02:10:31,079 --> 02:10:33,800
add to the show for them.
I love the shows. Yeah, they're

1958
02:10:33,800 --> 02:10:39,039
always very fun to me, very
very humbling. We're calling wolf it's the

1959
02:10:39,039 --> 02:10:46,600
opposite of humbling, that's what you
mean. It feeds your ego? Hello,

1960
02:10:46,399 --> 02:10:52,359
Hello, how's your throat? That's
fucking terrible. Oh you sound like

1961
02:10:52,439 --> 02:10:56,960
ship. Yeah. If you get
me sick, I'm gonna I'm gonna be

1962
02:10:56,039 --> 02:11:03,319
pissed. Does of it your kid? Me? Inxact sick? Did what

1963
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:07,159
when did that happen like a year
ago. It was a long time ago.

1964
02:11:07,279 --> 02:11:09,640
You guys must have deserved me real
mad if you got me sick though,

1965
02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:11,800
Yeah, that's the time that you're
like, yeah, my kid is

1966
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:13,880
sick, So like, if you
don't want to come over, I understand,

1967
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:16,840
but we're like, well, and
I will come over and risk it

1968
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:20,119
like that, we both got sick. Are you around? I'll turn it.

1969
02:11:20,159 --> 02:11:22,399
I'll turn him down. I'll turn
him down here, you turn him

1970
02:11:22,399 --> 02:11:26,640
out up there. I do remember
that now. Yeah, I warned you

1971
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:28,079
don't come over if you're worried about
getting sick, and then you came over

1972
02:11:28,159 --> 02:11:31,720
and got sick, and I was
like, well, I don't know.

1973
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:35,119
I told you. Well, Willee, I'm sad I'm not getting to meet

1974
02:11:35,119 --> 02:11:39,680
you this weekend. Yeah you mean, but I appreciate you not getting sick

1975
02:11:39,720 --> 02:11:43,479
to him. Yeah, well definitely
we'll definitely get also back here at some

1976
02:11:43,520 --> 02:11:46,279
point. We'll have to go out
to dinner or something all together. Yeah,

1977
02:11:46,760 --> 02:11:50,079
it was fun. We had a
fun day acts, throwing escape rooms,

1978
02:11:50,319 --> 02:11:54,199
steak dinners. Yeah, we missed
you mad. You know, you

1979
02:11:54,319 --> 02:11:56,359
guys have no idea how pissed I've
been sitting here at home all day.

1980
02:11:58,399 --> 02:12:01,279
Sorry, Bud. Did Cindy come
by bring you the chicken noodle soup or

1981
02:12:01,319 --> 02:12:03,800
some ship? I told her not
to come down. I didn't want her

1982
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:11,640
to get sick. That's probably I
felt horrible all there. I'm just like,

1983
02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:16,439
I ruined everybody's weekend. You didn't
ruin our weekend. You just bummed

1984
02:12:16,520 --> 02:12:18,600
us all out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a big bummer.

1985
02:12:20,640 --> 02:12:24,159
All right, we want to hear
your your thoughts on the finale since you

1986
02:12:24,239 --> 02:12:28,640
weren't here to impart your wisdom on
us because he's an idiot, which is

1987
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:37,319
hilarious. Right, Bananas finished dead
last for the guys, which is great.

1988
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:45,279
Third place we love, which is
last. Third place is last.

1989
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:50,479
If you're not first, you're last. Yep. And I am super happy

1990
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:54,800
that Chris one, yes, agreed. We definitely deserved it this year,

1991
02:12:56,000 --> 02:13:03,079
So I'm super happy and I'm priickly
happy the Dozy one good. Yeah,

1992
02:13:03,359 --> 02:13:07,520
it was. I'm happy that both
of them went too, And god it

1993
02:13:07,640 --> 02:13:11,800
was it was great watching FESTI just
funck up royally. That was so fantastic.

1994
02:13:15,159 --> 02:13:18,039
I actually liked the format. Did
you they spent the day one like

1995
02:13:18,680 --> 02:13:24,039
like building up like deficits or whatever. Yeah, and then day two was

1996
02:13:24,119 --> 02:13:28,760
an actual like race where all that
stuff actually mattered, So Tim, Tim

1997
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:31,920
just stepped away to get a beer. Yeah. Wolf. He said that

1998
02:13:31,960 --> 02:13:37,039
he liked the format. I liked
the four two except that the advantages were

1999
02:13:37,079 --> 02:13:41,479
too big and didn't exist. Yes, the advantages on the second day were

2000
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:46,560
too big, and I feel because
of that they made the first advantages irrelevant.

2001
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:50,520
Well they totally did. Yeah,
and you can tell by how Corey

2002
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:56,880
got second place. Yeah, you
didn't like the ATV part. I thought

2003
02:13:56,920 --> 02:14:01,680
that was like too big of an
advantage. I feel like the advantages should

2004
02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:05,880
have been like, you know,
minus a minute if you try and fail,

2005
02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:09,840
plus a minute if you try and
succeed, or zero if you'd run

2006
02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:13,399
past it. Yeah, because it
saw its ten miles in all together,

2007
02:14:13,399 --> 02:14:16,479
and they got to go two miles
on a TV, so that's like a

2008
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:18,760
whole fifth of the final. Yeah, you just get to drive a vehicle.

2009
02:14:18,880 --> 02:14:22,039
Yeah, two miles on an ATV, and they also get to miss

2010
02:14:22,079 --> 02:14:26,199
a mile and a mile point two
on the other one. Yeah, so

2011
02:14:26,319 --> 02:14:28,960
that's three point two miles. That's
plus a quarter of the final if you

2012
02:14:30,079 --> 02:14:33,079
hit the AX Yeah, I can
see that. I mean I'm not saying

2013
02:14:33,119 --> 02:14:37,199
it doesn't need some refinement, but
I did enjoy the fact that, you

2014
02:14:37,319 --> 02:14:43,439
know, they earned either pluses or
minuses day one. Yeah, and then

2015
02:14:43,479 --> 02:14:46,319
it literally was just a race.
Like the next day. There's no like

2016
02:14:46,119 --> 02:14:50,600
we're going to combine everybody's time or
whatever. It's like the first person here

2017
02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:52,880
with Yeah, we did get we
did get a finish line, and we

2018
02:14:52,920 --> 02:14:54,159
didn't get a big check, but
we got a finish line in a final

2019
02:14:54,319 --> 02:14:58,239
or finish line in a U one. Yeah. Yeah, And it was

2020
02:14:58,319 --> 02:15:03,039
everybody, even if they needed to
or not running up put their hand on

2021
02:15:03,119 --> 02:15:05,720
that flag. Yeah, that's all
it matters. Everybody been poor Mikayla,

2022
02:15:07,079 --> 02:15:11,439
and it's still up on the mountain. I think the advantages were big,

2023
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:15,159
but I also think everybody had an
opportunity to win it. It's not like

2024
02:15:15,279 --> 02:15:18,800
there were only four ATVs. If
you didn't make the four, then you

2025
02:15:18,359 --> 02:15:22,319
you suck. It was like you
had an opportunity, you just sucked at

2026
02:15:22,359 --> 02:15:26,880
it. So sorry, Yeah,
yeah, Johnny's an idiot. We all

2027
02:15:26,920 --> 02:15:33,279
agree. Johnny's the only one that
I'm gonna put as many heavy rocks in

2028
02:15:33,319 --> 02:15:35,359
here as I possibly can. It's
totally gonna win it. For me.

2029
02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:37,279
You missed it. I think you
missed unless you've been listening Wolfy. But

2030
02:15:37,359 --> 02:15:43,399
me and Zach figured out Banana's weaknesses
is that he is bad at estimating weights

2031
02:15:43,439 --> 02:15:46,159
of shit. It's a very weird
specific weakness. But he's showed it a

2032
02:15:46,199 --> 02:15:50,359
couple of times then, so we're
gonna we're gonna see that an elimination where

2033
02:15:50,439 --> 02:15:54,920
you have to figure out weights,
and everybody's like, throw Johnny in anytime

2034
02:15:56,000 --> 02:16:01,359
we see a scale that's bananas.
Get Banana's home. No. I tried

2035
02:16:01,399 --> 02:16:05,359
to log in just to listen to
the audience portion of it, and it

2036
02:16:05,439 --> 02:16:11,319
won't let me log in. Under
that it keeps because I'm like, wellfy,

2037
02:16:11,359 --> 02:16:13,479
I was trying to do that on
my phone too, and it keeps

2038
02:16:13,560 --> 02:16:18,720
popping me over to actually be part
of the recorded version, and that's what

2039
02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:22,800
I was getting too. So yeah, uh, well, we're gonna hang

2040
02:16:22,880 --> 02:16:26,119
up on you, wolf unless you
got something else to say. Yeah,

2041
02:16:26,159 --> 02:16:28,960
any other final thoughts for the season, No, go, Chris, wait

2042
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:31,159
to see him on the show again. So we had a caller bring it

2043
02:16:31,239 --> 02:16:35,600
up earlier, Wolfie, but josh
Man announced me is taking a couple of

2044
02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:39,200
seasons off. Do you have a
comment about this. Oh, I've been

2045
02:16:39,280 --> 02:16:43,360
celebrating ever since I found out.
So does Josh have a comment on it?

2046
02:16:45,840 --> 02:16:52,079
I could do it. I heard
it. There it is, We

2047
02:16:52,239 --> 02:16:56,319
got it. Thanks Jos, Josh, Thanks Wolfy, Thanks Josh. It

2048
02:16:56,440 --> 02:17:01,959
was nice having us guests. We
hope you feel better soon. We're bummed

2049
02:17:01,959 --> 02:17:05,639
you're not here. We'll text you
about breakfast. Oh good sounds good bye,

2050
02:17:05,680 --> 02:17:09,680
bye bye? All right. I
know we had at least one more

2051
02:17:09,719 --> 02:17:13,520
person calling in. It is getting
super late, guys, So if you're

2052
02:17:13,559 --> 02:17:15,840
going to call in, call in
now and make it short. I'm putting

2053
02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:18,520
my phone number in there one more
time. Yeah. We've been on this

2054
02:17:18,639 --> 02:17:22,040
for almost two and a half hours
now, two hours and seventeen minutes.

2055
02:17:22,040 --> 02:17:26,440
And it's a finale. Yes,
the finale shows are always long and creazy.

2056
02:17:26,399 --> 02:17:28,920
All right. He finally should have
been an hour and a half.

2057
02:17:30,680 --> 02:17:37,680
Hello is this Joker? This is
this Joker? Joker? My man?

2058
02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:41,680
Wait? How you doing? Man? Joker is just petting you earlier?

2059
02:17:43,600 --> 02:17:48,639
That is weird. Should I be
offended? Yes, you should be very

2060
02:17:48,719 --> 02:17:54,280
worried. Where are you at right
now? Joker? Yeah, my dog's

2061
02:17:54,319 --> 02:18:01,680
here with us, and so to
fill Allison in back up beautiful people.

2062
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:09,079
I think it's only appropriate. What
was that? Oh, you're you're you

2063
02:18:09,159 --> 02:18:13,079
have a bad connection. Man,
stand next to a window, you're cutting

2064
02:18:13,120 --> 02:18:18,959
in and out. Hold on.
Yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna in

2065
02:18:18,079 --> 02:18:26,360
on the on the story. So
Alison, there were we did an over

2066
02:18:26,440 --> 02:18:30,840
the what was it the video?
We were just one of the movies.

2067
02:18:31,520 --> 02:18:35,399
Watch one of the movies over Zoom
CTS movie. That's right, his terrible,

2068
02:18:35,479 --> 02:18:41,239
terrible movie over Zoom. And my
dog jumped on my lap and these

2069
02:18:41,319 --> 02:18:45,559
two these to hear, sucking tim
or something like going, your dog looks

2070
02:18:45,600 --> 02:18:48,920
like Joker because they both got a
white beer, both got black hair.

2071
02:18:50,840 --> 02:19:01,319
Yeah, Franky, I got I
gotta ask a question with all due respect

2072
02:19:01,399 --> 02:19:07,719
to the last caller. Okay,
not Wolfman. Yeah, but okay,

2073
02:19:09,639 --> 02:19:11,959
Zach. Tim especially needs you guys
to chime in on this. Okay,

2074
02:19:13,600 --> 02:19:20,440
Why is it that everyone seems to
be of this crazy opinion that Chris spent

2075
02:19:20,639 --> 02:19:26,639
his time on the edge of extinction
like sitting on a Chase lounge getting his

2076
02:19:26,799 --> 02:19:31,280
feet massaged by Hooli chicks, drinking
my ties. It was set up to

2077
02:19:31,479 --> 02:19:37,600
be a worse situation than actually being
in the game. Yeah, you know

2078
02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:41,280
he had nothing. I think it's
that he wasn't playing the game. He

2079
02:19:41,479 --> 02:19:45,760
was out of the game. He
was just sort of an observer. He

2080
02:19:45,879 --> 02:19:48,920
had no power at all. He
was just there. It wasn't enjoyable.

2081
02:19:48,959 --> 02:19:52,600
You're right, it was a hard
it was a hard time on that island.

2082
02:19:52,680 --> 02:19:54,399
But he wasn't playing. And I
do think he played the game out

2083
02:19:54,440 --> 02:19:56,479
there because a lot of the people
that were out there with him said,

2084
02:19:56,559 --> 02:20:00,600
like, every day Chris would wake
up and be like, you guys,

2085
02:20:00,680 --> 02:20:03,000
go sit by, like I started
a fire. You guys go sit by.

2086
02:20:03,079 --> 02:20:05,799
I'm gonna go fish. I'm gonna
get everyone breakfast, like I'm gonna

2087
02:20:05,959 --> 02:20:07,879
like he was doing all the work. He's like, you guys go on

2088
02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:11,200
vacation, you relax, let me
take care of you. So then when

2089
02:20:11,239 --> 02:20:13,000
he got to the end, they're
like, oh, this guy like fed

2090
02:20:13,120 --> 02:20:16,200
us every day, he made our
fire, Like, let's reward him.

2091
02:20:16,479 --> 02:20:20,200
Yeah, and then let's let's just
state the obvious. Okay, he comes

2092
02:20:20,319 --> 02:20:24,799
back and he takes out the guy
that nobody in that fricking game could take

2093
02:20:24,840 --> 02:20:30,840
out. Yeah, And so what
people are saying is what would they rather

2094
02:20:30,920 --> 02:20:33,959
do? Give it to Gavin.
I did, like Gavin, but no,

2095
02:20:33,120 --> 02:20:37,000
I think I think it was horrible. See that's I don't remember anybody

2096
02:20:37,079 --> 02:20:43,319
else. I remember Chris and Devon's
Yeah, so it seems he's the only

2097
02:20:43,399 --> 02:20:46,000
one at work. Absolutely when he
was at Tribal Council, it's like,

2098
02:20:46,040 --> 02:20:48,159
well, what Devn's gone. There's
only Chris left, because Chris is the

2099
02:20:48,239 --> 02:20:52,239
only one that's done anything the other
two, the other two just sort of

2100
02:20:52,559 --> 02:20:56,520
had existed. See my thought,
I thought Gavin and Victoria really were like

2101
02:20:56,639 --> 02:21:01,840
strategically running that season. The problem
was Devin kept finding idols, so like

2102
02:21:01,200 --> 02:21:03,520
they can't get rid of him.
But I feel like if they could get

2103
02:21:03,600 --> 02:21:07,719
rid of him, that was Victorian
Gavin's game to just run to the end.

2104
02:21:09,399 --> 02:21:11,840
But there, you know, I
gotta disagree because if you guys remember

2105
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:18,879
the Final Counsel or whatever, every
time Gavin stood up there and tried to

2106
02:21:18,959 --> 02:21:22,319
say he tried to take credit for
moves that was made in the game,

2107
02:21:22,920 --> 02:21:24,959
everybody was kind of popping up said, actually, no, I was the

2108
02:21:26,040 --> 02:21:28,559
one that said it to you.
I presented it to you. And he's

2109
02:21:28,639 --> 02:21:31,079
like, yeah, but I agreed
with you, and I went with you

2110
02:21:31,159 --> 02:21:33,159
anyway, And I was on the
right side of all the votes. It

2111
02:21:33,319 --> 02:21:39,000
was like the guy he didn't really
strategize anything. Okay, I don't recall

2112
02:21:39,079 --> 02:21:43,959
them, I believe you just go
back and watch the final Tribal Council with

2113
02:21:43,079 --> 02:21:46,479
him, and every time he tries
to take credit for something, one or

2114
02:21:46,520 --> 02:21:48,840
two people would step up. Actually, no, I was the one that

2115
02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:54,040
suggested that to you. But I
think part of it too is everybody loves

2116
02:21:54,040 --> 02:21:58,600
an underdog, and Devin's was the
underdog because everybody was trketing in but he

2117
02:21:58,719 --> 02:22:01,399
just kept finding idols or immunity,
and so he was like they were just

2118
02:22:01,479 --> 02:22:07,440
stuck with him for like seven weeks
of this show. It was Chris this

2119
02:22:07,600 --> 02:22:09,200
year. Yeah, and then Chris
came back and was like, well,

2120
02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:11,719
now I'm the underdog because I've been
on this thing, but I'm going to

2121
02:22:11,760 --> 02:22:16,440
take out the lead guy. So
Chris was the underdog. And so I

2122
02:22:16,479 --> 02:22:18,959
think people don't like to reward the
people that are always in charge. They

2123
02:22:18,079 --> 02:22:22,159
like the people that are underdogs to
win. We've proved this, remember the

2124
02:22:22,239 --> 02:22:24,799
USA two. And he did.
And there was another thing he did also

2125
02:22:24,959 --> 02:22:28,920
that a lot of people don't seem
to ever bring up giving up. He

2126
02:22:28,040 --> 02:22:31,600
won that final challenge and he gave
up the immunity to go in and take

2127
02:22:31,680 --> 02:22:35,719
Devon's out himself. Well, I
said that, Yeah, yeah, Chris

2128
02:22:35,840 --> 02:22:39,280
was Chris was making final travel counts
on no matter what. But he said,

2129
02:22:39,360 --> 02:22:41,719
yeah, I would rather give up
this immunity and take Devn's out because

2130
02:22:41,719 --> 02:22:45,079
I'm the only one that can do
it. And then he did it,

2131
02:22:45,639 --> 02:22:48,079
and I feel like, yeah,
I feel like I've had people like on

2132
02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:50,799
the Jerry say that like had he
not done that, he might not have

2133
02:22:50,920 --> 02:22:54,680
won, like they might not give
him the votes. It seems less clear

2134
02:22:54,959 --> 02:22:58,040
that. Yeah, I think you're
right too. Yeah. Yeah, if

2135
02:22:58,079 --> 02:23:01,840
he if he just sits back and
let's Gavin, you know, go well,

2136
02:23:01,920 --> 02:23:05,520
if let's just say, I don't
care who Devin's faces, if Devin

2137
02:23:05,639 --> 02:23:07,719
makes the final three, who wins
the game? Yeah? Did you guys

2138
02:23:07,719 --> 02:23:11,600
ever see the pond A Rosa when
he when Devins showed up on the Pond

2139
02:23:11,719 --> 02:23:15,959
Rosa. No, I didn't watch
it, I'm sure I did. He

2140
02:23:16,200 --> 02:23:20,239
shows up and he's just so dejected
because you know, he just loses.

2141
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:24,399
He feels everybody just hates him,
and they all like just stood there and

2142
02:23:24,520 --> 02:23:28,000
greeted him and they cheered him,
and he's like was I gonna win and

2143
02:23:28,040 --> 02:23:35,639
they're like, yes, clearly,
it was amazing. That was that just

2144
02:23:35,120 --> 02:23:39,520
it was one of those really great
moments. But yeah, Devin's wins that

2145
02:23:39,639 --> 02:23:43,239
if he's sitting final three and yeah, and here's the thing, Chris does

2146
02:23:43,280 --> 02:23:48,479
it. If Chris is sitting final
three with Gavin and Julie without making that

2147
02:23:48,680 --> 02:23:52,600
move, he doesn't win. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah,

2148
02:23:52,680 --> 02:23:56,520
I don't know. I just don't
understand why Christ. It's like,

2149
02:23:56,639 --> 02:24:00,239
again, it's like Paul on Big
Brother nineteen. I get it. People

2150
02:24:00,280 --> 02:24:03,840
may not like the guy, but
he completely controlled the game. Nobody was

2151
02:24:03,959 --> 02:24:07,639
even close. There's just certain seasons
that are a layup. I loved Paul

2152
02:24:07,719 --> 02:24:13,319
in nineteen. Yeah, amaking game. Yeah he did what everybody he did

2153
02:24:13,399 --> 02:24:18,399
what they say you're supposed to do. But that jury was so damn bitter

2154
02:24:18,879 --> 02:24:24,040
are it was? Yeah, But
I uh, I just don't understand when

2155
02:24:24,040 --> 02:24:30,200
people like and I really hated Chris
every time on the season saying you know,

2156
02:24:30,319 --> 02:24:33,559
I'm just people telling me I just
didn't deserve the win and all this.

2157
02:24:33,680 --> 02:24:35,920
I'm like, bro, stop putting
that out in the universe. Yeah,

2158
02:24:35,959 --> 02:24:37,600
he did have a lot of yeah, a lot of negativity run.

2159
02:24:39,879 --> 02:24:41,840
That could be hard if you win
and then like you're so excited and every

2160
02:24:41,840 --> 02:24:43,879
way you're gonna be able to just
like, well, you didn't deserve it,

2161
02:24:45,399 --> 02:24:48,159
like hearing that for years. I
hope this undoubts some of that.

2162
02:24:48,280 --> 02:24:50,120
I hope that people, if they
start questioning a survivor win look at his

2163
02:24:50,239 --> 02:24:54,319
challenge. When that he did.
He played, his back was against the

2164
02:24:54,360 --> 02:24:56,600
wall the whole time. He kept
doing what he had to do. He

2165
02:24:56,639 --> 02:25:01,639
stayed focused, he stayed strategic,
and he won it. Uh, it's

2166
02:25:01,719 --> 02:25:07,799
only Josh had that kind of self
reflection, you know, old brother nineteen.

2167
02:25:07,200 --> 02:25:11,280
Yep, I guess I assume.
I know what you mean. I

2168
02:25:11,360 --> 02:25:13,680
just hate Josh, but I didn't
watch The Big Brother. No, no,

2169
02:25:13,799 --> 02:25:16,399
I hate Josh too, and and
Carlin is as much as I hate

2170
02:25:16,440 --> 02:25:22,799
car Carl. I gotta tell you
something. Yep, Josh can't make a

2171
02:25:22,920 --> 02:25:26,360
final. Yes, you're you are
right. He can't. He was inches

2172
02:25:26,399 --> 02:25:30,879
away even this season. He can
make a final. I'm dying on this

2173
02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:33,680
hill, dying on it. Here's
the thing. I'm gonna throw it even

2174
02:25:33,799 --> 02:25:39,920
farther he can win. Oh,
you're pushing it far, you're pushing Look

2175
02:25:39,959 --> 02:25:41,799
look at his here's hear me out. Look at it. Look who is

2176
02:25:41,920 --> 02:25:48,200
who's his alliance? Kacy? Uh
FESSI. I don't know about Johnny anymore.

2177
02:25:48,079 --> 02:25:52,120
He's got to but here. But
here's the thing. He's he's tied

2178
02:25:52,200 --> 02:25:56,120
up with these really powerful people that
could carry him. And if it's another

2179
02:25:56,959 --> 02:26:01,799
group win type situation, they can
carry him because the guy can act unlike

2180
02:26:01,840 --> 02:26:07,200
an The guy can run, everyone
else could solve the puzzles and do whatever.

2181
02:26:07,479 --> 02:26:11,000
If it's a team final, you
might have a point. If it's

2182
02:26:11,040 --> 02:26:13,840
a team we haven't seen that since
the Words too. If it's a team

2183
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:20,680
final, he has a potential.
But there's no way in hell even a

2184
02:26:20,799 --> 02:26:28,159
duo because I mean we talked about
how close slow Down was inches away from

2185
02:26:28,200 --> 02:26:31,639
winning Writer or Dies, which is
unbelievable to me. But all she had

2186
02:26:31,680 --> 02:26:39,840
to do is beat Nannie and then
beat beat Tory and uh Devin in the

2187
02:26:39,360 --> 02:26:43,479
like a couple of eliminations. You're
telling if we get a car or Laurel

2188
02:26:43,520 --> 02:26:46,719
back on the show and Josh starts
to fight with him, they get paired

2189
02:26:46,760 --> 02:26:52,719
on Rivals. Car Laurel couldn't get
Josh final. Yeah, I think he

2190
02:26:52,840 --> 02:26:58,479
can easily be carried. I mean
I'm telling you I will die on this

2191
02:26:58,600 --> 02:27:01,120
hill. He will. I hate
him too, with the I need him,

2192
02:27:01,159 --> 02:27:05,760
with the power of a thousand suns. Joeer, I'm not going to

2193
02:27:05,799 --> 02:27:07,680
put you on the spot now,
but I'm throwing this out to you as

2194
02:27:07,719 --> 02:27:11,159
well as Zach. You Allison.
We need to find a bet for Josh

2195
02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:16,799
not making the final, something that
you will actually like, have something invested

2196
02:27:16,840 --> 02:27:20,799
in, because I think Josh can
make a final. I think he can

2197
02:27:20,959 --> 02:27:24,479
and I and I think he will. I think Josh will be in all

2198
02:27:24,600 --> 02:27:28,239
right, I think you will find
We gotta figure it out. We got

2199
02:27:28,319 --> 02:27:31,520
to figure out this bet, but
we will. We will sort this out.

2200
02:27:31,280 --> 02:27:37,760
We will do this. I have
to kiss Kate just said that I

2201
02:27:37,799 --> 02:27:39,760
would have to kiss Josh. That
requires us to find Josh. You gotta

2202
02:27:39,799 --> 02:27:43,680
kiss. You gotta kiss Wolfy while
he's making his Josh force You know what

2203
02:27:43,799 --> 02:27:48,120
do we have to Josh's romance?
Speaking of kissing Josh, do we have

2204
02:27:48,159 --> 02:27:52,079
a show Mas this year? Yes? With the Cassidy Oh you really like

2205
02:27:52,680 --> 02:28:01,719
over up and realize that probably sticker
tongue and a light socking. My god,

2206
02:28:01,440 --> 02:28:05,120
and I'm gonna okay, can I
throw a hot take out there real

2207
02:28:05,239 --> 02:28:09,559
quick because I'm so, I mean, I actually literally getting physical. My

2208
02:28:09,719 --> 02:28:16,719
man, I still look at the
challenge. You will say as the JV.

2209
02:28:18,799 --> 02:28:22,760
Yeah, it's not the Varsity show. The Varsity Show is the Varsity

2210
02:28:22,840 --> 02:28:30,680
Show. But I thought the most
dominating performance I've ever seen in any season

2211
02:28:30,879 --> 02:28:37,760
of any of the challenges was Turbo. I think Chris just I think Chris

2212
02:28:37,920 --> 02:28:43,840
just beat him. Oh, Turbo
really didn't have a lot of adversarial opponents

2213
02:28:45,000 --> 02:28:50,719
like trying to stop them. I
mean, we didn't see anyone trying to

2214
02:28:50,799 --> 02:29:00,719
copy Chris as walk. That's right, Chris walked like Turbo. He was

2215
02:29:00,760 --> 02:29:03,520
on. I think it might have
been a seconds, just like you turned

2216
02:29:03,520 --> 02:29:05,120
to coffee my watch. Yeah,
because I think first season the Turbot was

2217
02:29:05,159 --> 02:29:11,719
on, he was. He didn't
have any adversaries. Yeah, I think

2218
02:29:11,760 --> 02:29:15,399
that there was. I think they
were a little scared of him because he

2219
02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:18,479
was insane no matter what. Nuts
He was just a slightly friendlier version of

2220
02:29:18,520 --> 02:29:22,399
insane the first time. But I
mean, and he's if you were,

2221
02:29:22,440 --> 02:29:26,319
like, he won two of his
seasons of Survivor and he was actually like

2222
02:29:26,159 --> 02:29:28,079
to be on a third, wasn't
he He was? And he has actually

2223
02:29:28,120 --> 02:29:31,360
made to the final sixth and then
he got removed for injury, but he

2224
02:29:31,520 --> 02:29:33,680
was like the favorite to win his
third one in a row. Yeah,

2225
02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:37,360
Jesus, the guy's a specimen man, and he's unlike anything you see on

2226
02:29:37,440 --> 02:29:41,159
the challenge. That's you know that
that whole day and the copy in my

2227
02:29:41,280 --> 02:29:46,120
watch. Shit, I mean,
I'm not there's the child is still with

2228
02:29:46,159 --> 02:29:48,559
pretend tough guys. And then those
are the guys, you know, the

2229
02:29:48,639 --> 02:29:50,079
Pauli's, you know, and not
only I know this is not going to

2230
02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:52,719
be real, not gonna go over
real. Well, but I'm also gonna

2231
02:29:52,719 --> 02:29:58,520
say forking CT because I've never seen
the guy punch up or across, you

2232
02:29:58,600 --> 02:30:01,719
know, but he has tacked one
a lot. That's fine, But that's

2233
02:30:01,799 --> 02:30:03,719
fine. You know, I still
I've I've grown to like CT. But

2234
02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:09,159
the fact of the matter is is
that Jordan, he's not a pretend tough

2235
02:30:09,239 --> 02:30:11,120
guy. He's just the guy that's
just you know, that's read the art

2236
02:30:11,159 --> 02:30:16,719
of Ward too many times, you
know, enemy superior agitate them and it

2237
02:30:16,879 --> 02:30:20,479
worked like a charm with Turbo.
And that's and that's what because there I

2238
02:30:20,559 --> 02:30:28,959
can't imagine any competition that Jordan beats
Turbo. In really well, maybe maybe

2239
02:30:28,959 --> 02:30:31,200
it's just a puzzle. Maybe it's
just a puzzle, but I guess I'm

2240
02:30:31,200 --> 02:30:39,079
thinking physical comps. Jordan does excel
in physical comps. But joshu war.

2241
02:30:39,920 --> 02:30:43,520
Yeah, I mean that one was
almost more mental than it was physical.

2242
02:30:43,639 --> 02:30:46,959
But that's because that's because Jordan made
it that way. It's tug of war

2243
02:30:48,079 --> 02:30:50,360
is not mental. Jordan forced it
to be mental. And just how Alison

2244
02:30:50,440 --> 02:30:54,440
knows that Jordan only has one hand. That's why it's impressed. Jordan and

2245
02:30:54,520 --> 02:30:58,760
Floren without the fingers on one of
his hands, so he's got like the

2246
02:30:58,840 --> 02:31:03,479
palm, but he doesn't have this
or someone. It just makes Josh's failure

2247
02:31:03,639 --> 02:31:07,239
that much greater. Yeah, this
tug of war way Josh and lost that,

2248
02:31:07,639 --> 02:31:11,040
Oh no, not at all.
So the tug of war so that

2249
02:31:11,159 --> 02:31:16,639
Allison's aware the both Josh is standing
on one side and he's and Jordan's on

2250
02:31:16,680 --> 02:31:18,879
the other, both on boxes about
the same high as his table, and

2251
02:31:20,319 --> 02:31:24,000
the rope goes down in the middle
and they have to you know, typical

2252
02:31:24,040 --> 02:31:30,559
tug of war. And Jordan comes
to realize that Josh has a tell every

2253
02:31:30,639 --> 02:31:33,479
time he's going to do a big
pull. And so Jordan kind of fakes

2254
02:31:33,520 --> 02:31:37,559
it out like, oh, I'm
losing my balance and sees Josh do it

2255
02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:41,840
pull it real hard one time and
he just lets go of the rope and

2256
02:31:43,000 --> 02:31:46,920
Josh falls off his or he doesn't
completely like, he like lets it slide

2257
02:31:46,959 --> 02:31:52,239
through his hand a little bit and
Josh falls backwards off the war and he

2258
02:31:52,319 --> 02:31:58,959
does it twice, does the same
exact move twice and Josh fails both times,

2259
02:31:58,040 --> 02:32:01,559
and it was it was taculate because
it's like, You're looking at this

2260
02:32:01,639 --> 02:32:05,319
guy and how is he ever going
to win? Josh has like four or

2261
02:32:05,360 --> 02:32:07,879
five inches on him, easily has
fifty pounds on the guy. He's got

2262
02:32:07,959 --> 02:32:16,680
an extra handy like Jordan also want
to sledgehammer sledgehammering competition too, against against

2263
02:32:16,799 --> 02:32:20,879
Zach who looks like thor Yeah,
against uh who's the other one with the

2264
02:32:20,239 --> 02:32:26,200
THEO yep, just because Jordan had
a better swinging technique. But still you're

2265
02:32:26,200 --> 02:32:30,360
swinging a sledgehammer with one hand,
yep, what a disadvantage. And he

2266
02:32:30,479 --> 02:32:35,280
won it twice against two very strong
competitors. The guy is an unstoppable force.

2267
02:32:35,360 --> 02:32:39,399
He's crazy, and I I would
I would bet for Jordan no matter

2268
02:32:39,520 --> 02:32:41,200
the competition, No matter who he's
against, I will always put me on

2269
02:32:41,280 --> 02:32:46,600
Jordan. We need to well,
I need to him versus Fatty A couple

2270
02:32:46,680 --> 02:32:52,360
of times in a physical compo,
seems like that's the well and then the

2271
02:32:52,959 --> 02:32:56,760
was the one with the patches.
Oh yeah, it's Amo, but he

2272
02:32:56,280 --> 02:33:01,280
one, he went one, he
did, but he'd be FESSI did he

2273
02:33:01,040 --> 02:33:09,959
Besie's beat him twice beat Are you
seriously gonna bring that up? The dude

2274
02:33:09,040 --> 02:33:13,959
has one hand joker. Anytime he
beats anybody with two hands, it's like,

2275
02:33:13,000 --> 02:33:16,319
holy shit, he did it because
he gotta grab patches with two hands.

2276
02:33:16,360 --> 02:33:20,479
He's got one of them, Like
what a disadvantage, and he overcomes

2277
02:33:20,520 --> 02:33:24,120
it every time. He's a crazy
g The only way I could say is

2278
02:33:24,200 --> 02:33:28,319
if you put Ammo and Josh any
physical gump, I'm gonna pick Josh.

2279
02:33:28,360 --> 02:33:33,799
I don't like Josh, and I
think Josh is the dumbest fucking guy that

2280
02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:37,719
I mean. But you know what
kind of freak you know freaked me out

2281
02:33:37,760 --> 02:33:41,440
the other night about a week or
so ago. He kind of arrests something

2282
02:33:41,559 --> 02:33:45,959
sexually, and I mean, that's
that's that was a while ago. But

2283
02:33:46,959 --> 02:33:56,600
he literally came close to beating Fessi
in a fucking hall brawl that Bessie literally

2284
02:33:56,719 --> 02:34:03,559
found a way to almost lose to
Josh. Yeah, did you imagine?

2285
02:34:07,120 --> 02:34:09,440
Awful? But it would have been
great. I know, I know what

2286
02:34:09,559 --> 02:34:13,559
it's like to win a whole bro
because I'm fruscinated, was like, oh

2287
02:34:13,760 --> 02:34:18,319
god for the next ten years.
Yeah, no kidding, you know.

2288
02:34:18,760 --> 02:34:20,680
Yeah, I would have loved it
if it were not the final, the

2289
02:34:22,319 --> 02:34:28,280
final elimination, I would have loved
that. Yeah, yeah, it's I'll

2290
02:34:28,479 --> 02:34:31,399
listen. Josh was getting too close
to the end. I needed him to

2291
02:34:31,440 --> 02:34:35,360
go. I don't care how it
happened. Put the guy out of my

2292
02:34:35,440 --> 02:34:39,879
misery. You know, it was
just he got I was. I gotta

2293
02:34:39,920 --> 02:34:41,879
be honest with you, man,
I'm watching to edit this guy's getting all

2294
02:34:43,000 --> 02:34:48,600
season long for starting getting the toast
that that still makes me sick. Yeah,

2295
02:34:48,639 --> 02:34:50,959
they did give him a hero at
it this season. They did really

2296
02:34:52,760 --> 02:34:56,319
might get to the final, even
possibly win. I thought so too.

2297
02:34:56,559 --> 02:34:58,959
I thought he was going to get
to at least. I knew he wasn't

2298
02:34:58,000 --> 02:35:01,639
going to win the season because it
was a single season. There was just

2299
02:35:01,760 --> 02:35:07,760
no way. But I really thought
he was getting to the final. I

2300
02:35:07,879 --> 02:35:09,040
did too, man, I thought, I thought Colin's gonna have to eat

2301
02:35:09,040 --> 02:35:13,520
her hat. But to me,
you can use soup. I don't know

2302
02:35:13,600 --> 02:35:20,600
what is that is just oh god? But yeah, I'll tell you what

2303
02:35:20,760 --> 02:35:22,879
though. I do like this season, but I think you guys were talking

2304
02:35:22,920 --> 02:35:28,680
about the Challenge All Stars for that
it's already been in the can. Why

2305
02:35:28,719 --> 02:35:33,159
are they not that ship yet?
And nobody knows. There's theories about the

2306
02:35:33,239 --> 02:35:37,360
strikes and stuff and who knows.
I think we'll see it though we got

2307
02:35:37,440 --> 02:35:41,479
to see it. You know what
I found irony? You know what I

2308
02:35:41,520 --> 02:35:45,120
found the irony about it is what
you know? Uh, I like you,

2309
02:35:45,399 --> 02:35:48,360
I like John Ay always kind of
have, but I always, you

2310
02:35:48,479 --> 02:35:54,239
know, accepted that she's a layup
and the fact that she stars, you

2311
02:35:54,360 --> 02:35:58,959
know that just told me that there
wasn't a lot of real competition on the

2312
02:35:58,000 --> 02:36:03,840
women's side of those HM. But
yet they here we go the first season

2313
02:36:05,479 --> 02:36:09,760
they bring in Kara, Laurel,
Rachel, did Cam? Isn't Cam in

2314
02:36:09,840 --> 02:36:13,639
it? And I think, and
I want to say, like Emily or

2315
02:36:13,719 --> 02:36:18,200
somebody else is in it? You
know who's not in it? John A,

2316
02:36:20,280 --> 02:36:24,959
Yeah, figure, yeah, no, you're right, Joe. Her

2317
02:36:24,000 --> 02:36:28,120
wins are not the most impressive because
of her competition, but she's still a

2318
02:36:28,159 --> 02:36:31,079
two team champ and you can't take
that away from her. I can't.

2319
02:36:33,600 --> 02:36:37,440
You can't. I can't, Josh
Wins. I'll make sure to remind you

2320
02:36:39,559 --> 02:36:41,040
my heart take and I know that
farm people just give it. But I

2321
02:36:41,879 --> 02:36:46,000
look at those All Star seasons like
they're enjoyable, but they're like Champs faur

2322
02:36:46,040 --> 02:36:50,879
Stars. They don't count there your
varsity. They are. Oh by the

2323
02:36:50,920 --> 02:36:56,520
way, Zachi Zachie Banana. Dude, have you listened to Johnny and Chris

2324
02:36:56,680 --> 02:37:01,079
or is it Johnny and uh?
I forget who on Rob has a podcast

2325
02:37:01,120 --> 02:37:05,680
their exit interviews? I saw i
not listened to it yet. Okay,

2326
02:37:05,840 --> 02:37:09,000
I've always been a Johnny fan man, but these last two seasons, this

2327
02:37:09,120 --> 02:37:13,520
guy is just straight up fucking insufferable. I swear to God, the last

2328
02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:18,639
two seasons. I like, that's
always I find out crazy because I feel

2329
02:37:18,639 --> 02:37:20,440
like most people feel the off I
feel most people say like he was insufferable

2330
02:37:20,440 --> 02:37:24,319
when he was younger. As he
gets older, he becomes more tolerable.

2331
02:37:24,280 --> 02:37:30,479
That it looks like a urinary track
infection and human feeling. You know,

2332
02:37:30,719 --> 02:37:35,200
it's just it's ridiculous. This guy
and you watch him on this on that

2333
02:37:35,680 --> 02:37:39,760
exit interview, I swear to god, he just sucks all the energy.

2334
02:37:39,879 --> 02:37:46,159
I want to see this guy go
on Special Forces. I would love to

2335
02:37:46,239 --> 02:37:50,280
see that. I'd love to see
those guys get hold of Johnny. Wow,

2336
02:37:50,159 --> 02:37:54,840
some real, real competition. Yeah, well, well, Carlin,

2337
02:37:54,920 --> 02:38:00,239
you saw what they did to my
boy Tom Sandoval. No, like said,

2338
02:38:00,280 --> 02:38:03,760
I haven't actually watched that show,
but I sent you the video though.

2339
02:38:03,959 --> 02:38:07,000
Oh yeah, that's true. No
I haven't. I I saw it,

2340
02:38:07,079 --> 02:38:11,319
but I jog my memory. Tell
it to everybody else. Well,

2341
02:38:11,399 --> 02:38:16,559
it's it's well, here's the thing
they bring every I don't know every A

2342
02:38:16,600 --> 02:38:20,479
couple of times on every show they'll
bring in one of the celebrities to ask

2343
02:38:20,600 --> 02:38:24,280
him what their problem is. And
they're drill sergeants of like the SAS and

2344
02:38:24,840 --> 02:38:28,040
Navy Seals and Special Forces and ship
and they don't take any crap, and

2345
02:38:28,159 --> 02:38:33,000
they're they're very hard and they're very
stern. Well, they bring in Tom

2346
02:38:33,079 --> 02:38:39,520
Sandoval. Tom just starts going off
about how there hasn't they made the mistake?

2347
02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:43,319
They go, what's your problem?
Then he starts going off, Well,

2348
02:38:43,360 --> 02:38:46,479
if this last year has been just
so horrible, it's been a nightmare.

2349
02:38:46,799 --> 02:38:50,200
Nobody's been a bigger villain than I
am. And her publicist, man,

2350
02:38:50,239 --> 02:38:52,239
it's just going out of her way
to screw me and blah blah blah.

2351
02:38:52,520 --> 02:38:56,319
And he's just going on non stop. And you see the you see

2352
02:38:56,360 --> 02:39:03,200
the drill sergeants ready to tap out. They're just they're they're slouching in their

2353
02:39:03,360 --> 02:39:07,120
seats, you know, with their
hands. Yeah, and they're like this

2354
02:39:07,600 --> 02:39:11,000
and they're like, my god,
this guy, yeah, just keeps talking,

2355
02:39:11,280 --> 02:39:16,639
just keeps talking. I feel Johnny
this. But Tom Sandoval is cool?

2356
02:39:16,799 --> 02:39:20,120
Who is Tom Sander So? Tom
Sandaval is the is one of the

2357
02:39:22,079 --> 02:39:24,879
one of the character characters, one
of the cast members from Manicump rolls.

2358
02:39:26,040 --> 02:39:31,520
Oh okay, he's the one who
cheated on his life partner with a girlfriends

2359
02:39:31,799 --> 02:39:35,600
life Hey gat friend. No no, no, no life partner. They

2360
02:39:35,639 --> 02:39:39,799
were for all intentsive first purposes married, They owned a house together, multiple

2361
02:39:39,799 --> 02:39:43,520
businesses together, and have been together
for almost ten years. Oh that's okay.

2362
02:39:43,600 --> 02:39:45,639
Well, I guess I missed that
part. I mean, I'm still

2363
02:39:45,639 --> 02:39:48,319
just starting to kind of get into
it. But you know what, I'm

2364
02:39:48,360 --> 02:39:52,319
growing my mustache out now because I
want to be cool like Tom. The

2365
02:39:52,360 --> 02:39:58,600
picture the picture Joker will no socks
with suits. Yeah, that's gonna be

2366
02:39:58,680 --> 02:40:01,600
my thing now me because yeah,
this guy is just so freaking I mean,

2367
02:40:01,600 --> 02:40:05,319
I'm thinking about cutting my hair like
this guy man because he's so cool.

2368
02:40:07,000 --> 02:40:09,239
You know, wolf he was my
spirit animal. It's now Tom sand

2369
02:40:09,319 --> 02:40:16,600
of all. Yeah, Wolfe's been
demoted. Man slipping a little bent man.

2370
02:40:16,840 --> 02:40:22,520
You know, I agree with you. He's totally slipping. John striking

2371
02:40:22,799 --> 02:40:26,360
to Yeah, he fucking gets sick
instead of partying with us all day.

2372
02:40:28,200 --> 02:40:31,159
I was falling Carlin at dinner that
I'm kind of like, I've been watching

2373
02:40:31,200 --> 02:40:33,799
the House of Villains. I'm kind
of into Jack's. So maybe I need

2374
02:40:33,959 --> 02:40:37,520
on this vander pump Rules thing with
your Joker. You have fun fun over

2375
02:40:37,559 --> 02:40:45,440
there, Tom, Tom's Jacks is. I don't know, but I'll tell

2376
02:40:45,440 --> 02:40:48,520
you something. The women on this
show are fucking out of their minds.

2377
02:40:50,680 --> 02:40:56,959
They just I don't understand their world. They just it's crazy. They just

2378
02:40:56,079 --> 02:41:01,879
don't Yeah, it's there were the
world just uh, I don't know what

2379
02:41:03,000 --> 02:41:05,399
we are to them. Nothing,
They don't know that we exist. Where

2380
02:41:05,440 --> 02:41:11,040
do they fall on the crazy hot
scale? You know, you you walk

2381
02:41:11,079 --> 02:41:15,639
if they if you walk, then
yeah, well you walk into their yard

2382
02:41:15,680 --> 02:41:18,200
like one of us walks into the
yard, They're gonna point to the lawnmowers.

2383
02:41:20,440 --> 02:41:22,680
You know, that's that's the kind
of thing. What are you talking

2384
02:41:22,680 --> 02:41:26,760
about? What do you mean,
Joker? Did you seek? Everybody's there

2385
02:41:26,799 --> 02:41:31,399
to serve them. It's insane,
Like Okay, I was like, they're

2386
02:41:31,440 --> 02:41:35,319
gonna win at a lawnmower? What's
that gonna there? Okay, get yeah,

2387
02:41:37,079 --> 02:41:39,239
everybody's there to serve them. Yeah, I get you now, Okay,

2388
02:41:39,559 --> 02:41:43,200
Well I like you, Joker,
but we've been doing this for almost

2389
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:46,600
three hours. We're all if every
people I'm watching on on video seeing our

2390
02:41:46,719 --> 02:41:50,719
energy drain out and we're gonna get
another call. But we love you,

2391
02:41:50,799 --> 02:41:54,840
Joker. You know what. I
hope one of he gets topless soon.

2392
02:41:54,959 --> 02:42:01,360
Man. That's talking to exact anyway
by a joker. Hello, Hey,

2393
02:42:01,920 --> 02:42:05,319
Hey, what's up? Hey?
We are easing out of this show,

2394
02:42:05,360 --> 02:42:11,959
so make it quick. What do
you want? Eric? Hi? Eric?

2395
02:42:13,760 --> 02:42:18,360
I gotta say, I love you
guys, hilarous, we love you

2396
02:42:18,440 --> 02:42:22,399
more. Yes, you are the
best you personally. I want to I'm

2397
02:42:22,440 --> 02:42:26,639
a little tipsy me too. I'm
more than a little tipsy. Eric.

2398
02:42:28,079 --> 02:42:30,360
If you heard our last wou Jugger
wants me to take my shirt off?

2399
02:42:30,399 --> 02:42:35,239
What do you think? Are you
watching on video? I was, but

2400
02:42:35,319 --> 02:42:37,200
then something happened to my computer,
so I'm on my phone now. Oh

2401
02:42:37,719 --> 02:42:39,639
all right, well he still take
your top offs? All right? So

2402
02:42:39,799 --> 02:42:46,959
that Mormon underwear? O. God, he's doing taking. He's going he's

2403
02:42:48,280 --> 02:42:52,159
the underwear. Even the underwear is
okay. I did not did not expect

2404
02:42:52,200 --> 02:42:56,520
that. But okay, here we
are, guys. We're losing it.

2405
02:42:56,959 --> 02:43:03,280
We're losing it. Drug, Eric, get on a video. This is

2406
02:43:03,319 --> 02:43:07,280
a very unexpected turn of events.
He's trying to get his Jerry beef.

2407
02:43:07,799 --> 02:43:13,280
You know, Eric, what'd you
think of the of the finale? Oh?

2408
02:43:15,159 --> 02:43:18,479
All the bets lost? Thank fucking
god? You want for the events?

2409
02:43:20,959 --> 02:43:24,959
Hell? No, like they spent
all fucking seasons, especially uh old

2410
02:43:26,040 --> 02:43:30,319
ass Johnny Banana's talking about this is
our show. Yeah, you're a different

2411
02:43:31,120 --> 02:43:37,079
just because you've been doing this show
for fifty years. You're coming here angry

2412
02:43:37,200 --> 02:43:39,479
and Jack that just took his shirt
off for you, and you're talking bad

2413
02:43:39,520 --> 02:43:46,559
about Banana's his boyfriend. You can't
do that. I can't. Yeah,

2414
02:43:46,920 --> 02:43:50,600
I I fucking hate Johnny. I'm
just pick you cornious person. To the

2415
02:43:50,639 --> 02:43:54,520
oldest. Even you have to have
been Zach. He's a corny guy,

2416
02:43:54,319 --> 02:43:58,239
like like the earlier season. It's
just like these these last couple of seasons

2417
02:43:58,360 --> 02:44:03,479
like ever so maybe world worlds or
like total madness. It's not like it's

2418
02:44:03,559 --> 02:44:07,319
authentic from him anymore. It seems
like he's reading a script, where back

2419
02:44:07,360 --> 02:44:11,120
in the day it seemed like he
was more authentic with these with this shit,

2420
02:44:11,200 --> 02:44:13,799
but he's not authentic with it anymore. Yeah, I could see that.

2421
02:44:13,120 --> 02:44:16,079
Yeah, I agree with that well. And the part of that's getting

2422
02:44:16,120 --> 02:44:18,159
old. Yeah, as you get
older, I've experienced this myself. You

2423
02:44:18,239 --> 02:44:22,639
have a lot less to say,
and you're dead inside. So your life

2424
02:44:22,760 --> 02:44:26,000
just has becomes sort of like acting
as if you're a normal human being with

2425
02:44:26,399 --> 02:44:30,559
life and soul in Usta and you
hate everyone and you don't care about anything.

2426
02:44:30,600 --> 02:44:31,639
Yeah, but you got to pretend
like you like people, and you

2427
02:44:31,719 --> 02:44:35,079
got to pretend like you're excited about
shit. And so it's unauthentic because it's

2428
02:44:35,120 --> 02:44:39,040
not you don't give a fuck anymore. When you past forty, it's like

2429
02:44:39,120 --> 02:44:41,760
it's all downhill. I'm talking to
all you people that are not yet forty

2430
02:44:41,760 --> 02:44:46,200
in the room. I feel like
some people naturally have a like on the

2431
02:44:46,239 --> 02:44:48,319
House of the one show that I'm
watching, New York is on there.

2432
02:44:48,479 --> 02:44:52,639
I think New York is just naturally
authentically funny, and it doesn't seem like

2433
02:44:52,760 --> 02:44:58,079
he's trying. It seems like he's
just doing it for the cameras. Yeah,

2434
02:44:58,200 --> 02:45:01,040
I get that. He does feel
very I take on there. Yeah,

2435
02:45:01,559 --> 02:45:05,040
I mean, I think most of
the people villains seems very inauthentic.

2436
02:45:07,000 --> 02:45:09,719
Shows more on that show because he's
with a lot of reality TV icons.

2437
02:45:09,879 --> 02:45:15,440
Yeah, and on the Challenge,
these people are just regular basic gas people.

2438
02:45:16,040 --> 02:45:18,479
Yeah, I agree, and he
does. He's a dad joke guy,

2439
02:45:18,520 --> 02:45:20,760
which is fine. I'm a dad
joke guy too, but it's weird

2440
02:45:20,760 --> 02:45:24,879
when it's coming from bananas. Yeah, dropping dad jokes and puns and ship

2441
02:45:24,959 --> 02:45:28,920
it's weird. And uh, I'm
glad fucking Bestie's dumb ass went the wrong

2442
02:45:28,959 --> 02:45:31,280
way. Thank you, thank you. Hey. What's your take? Did

2443
02:45:31,319 --> 02:45:35,639
he do that on purpose or was
that an accident? I just think he's

2444
02:45:35,200 --> 02:45:39,120
it showed shortcut, so I don't
know. I'm not Bessie's brain, And

2445
02:45:39,200 --> 02:45:41,079
honestly, I don't want to be
in there. It seems like it's fucking

2446
02:45:41,159 --> 02:45:50,280
scary in there, like a lost
hole. But it said but it said

2447
02:45:50,399 --> 02:45:54,200
shortcuts. And then I remember watching
it, it showed Tory on the long

2448
02:45:54,319 --> 02:45:58,120
trail and then all of a sudden
he was on a different truck. Yeah,

2449
02:45:58,200 --> 02:46:00,719
I'm thinking, how the fuck did
BEESTI get there so fast? And

2450
02:46:00,760 --> 02:46:03,440
then come to find out his stupid
I had thought, Yeah, it showed

2451
02:46:03,479 --> 02:46:07,120
the map where everybody was, and
I was like, how did he get

2452
02:46:07,159 --> 02:46:11,000
there? What's going on? But
yeah, exactly, but he could he

2453
02:46:11,159 --> 02:46:16,600
could have beaten Corey if he just
went the right way, he would have

2454
02:46:16,639 --> 02:46:20,120
gotten there before Corey. I think, you know, I think Tory was

2455
02:46:20,239 --> 02:46:26,200
just fucked either way. But he
had a slight We'll never find out now,

2456
02:46:26,280 --> 02:46:30,799
but I think Best had a slight
chance to beat Corey there because Corey

2457
02:46:30,920 --> 02:46:35,399
was so far behind Corey. I
gotta, yeah, question, is Corey

2458
02:46:35,639 --> 02:46:41,040
like the dumbest person on this season? On this on this season he might

2459
02:46:41,079 --> 02:46:45,840
be the doubleest president? Man,
he's such a moron? Yeah, Like,

2460
02:46:46,959 --> 02:46:50,120
I never seen somebody suck at a
final this bad in a while.

2461
02:46:50,719 --> 02:46:56,040
Yeah, day he first day,
he did all right, He finished second.

2462
02:46:56,200 --> 02:47:01,280
It wasn't that bad. Yeah.
The reason wife second is because Banana's

2463
02:47:01,319 --> 02:47:07,520
messed up on that scale. I
don't know how bananas fuck that up so

2464
02:47:07,600 --> 02:47:13,479
that it just went all the way
down like that was a miscalculation towards finals.

2465
02:47:13,760 --> 02:47:18,479
Yeah, it was funny how quick
that dropped. It was like not

2466
02:47:18,799 --> 02:47:20,840
closed, Yeah, because it sort
of banged the ground and then it sort

2467
02:47:20,840 --> 02:47:26,079
of like levitated half a millimeter off
the ground and he looked at DJ like

2468
02:47:26,159 --> 02:47:33,920
does that count? Cory got very
lucky just had Banana's not screwed that up,

2469
02:47:33,000 --> 02:47:37,920
he would have finished in third Coy
Like the second day, Corey just

2470
02:47:39,040 --> 02:47:43,040
had like the luck on his side
because Festi messed up that axe and had

2471
02:47:43,079 --> 02:47:46,840
to do an extra mile, and
then had Festi not meant the wrong way,

2472
02:47:46,000 --> 02:47:50,040
he would have probably beat Corey and
Corey would have been first out,

2473
02:47:50,120 --> 02:47:52,959
which he been suck. But we
can't say that though, because a lot

2474
02:47:54,000 --> 02:47:56,840
of people like to talk about Casey's
when how she sucked all the whole entire

2475
02:47:56,920 --> 02:48:01,559
final and until that last leg.
So are we're going to hold Corey to

2476
02:48:01,600 --> 02:48:05,959
the same had Corey had won?
Do we hold that same accountability to Corey

2477
02:48:05,000 --> 02:48:09,440
that as we do the case?
Yeah? I do think I think if

2478
02:48:09,479 --> 02:48:11,120
Corey had won there'd be an asterisk
next to this one. I think people

2479
02:48:11,159 --> 02:48:16,239
would be upset about it. Yeah, but I'm happy you got a second.

2480
02:48:16,680 --> 02:48:20,879
You know, we learned from we
learned from a dance home videos.

2481
02:48:20,000 --> 02:48:26,879
He's not gonna handling large, heavy
objects, you know, Jesus. I

2482
02:48:26,920 --> 02:48:31,319
think I think if it like I
know, Fussy did the whole. If

2483
02:48:31,360 --> 02:48:33,520
you think I can't win, like
Festy, this was your chance to win.

2484
02:48:33,840 --> 02:48:37,840
It was you go to a flagship
show, which I'm surprised that he's

2485
02:48:37,920 --> 02:48:45,479
not on. He's not on a
third nine. They have Michelle's on there.

2486
02:48:46,360 --> 02:48:48,559
Why didn't they get like the people
that lost this season? Was some

2487
02:48:48,639 --> 02:48:52,799
of them over there? Yeah?
I don't know. The casting is always

2488
02:48:52,799 --> 02:48:54,600
really weird. Yeah, why is
a soft back? Yeah, I don't

2489
02:48:54,600 --> 02:48:58,360
know they wanted. I thought when
I first saw that fucking ship show,

2490
02:48:58,440 --> 02:49:03,600
but cast thirty nine, I said, what the fuck is this? All

2491
02:49:03,680 --> 02:49:05,479
right? We see eye on this. I'm not excited about thirty nine either,

2492
02:49:05,799 --> 02:49:11,520
because why the I don't understand why
the fuck they got uh ed there?

2493
02:49:11,440 --> 02:49:16,000
I really, I'm actually really excited
to see Eddie a pretty decent show

2494
02:49:16,000 --> 02:49:20,799
again. Guys, he was fucking
born on spas lies and allies. I

2495
02:49:20,840 --> 02:49:22,639
don't know. I didn't think it
was all that boring. I thought he

2496
02:49:22,719 --> 02:49:28,040
was kind of fun. He's kind
of a goofball. I can't remember again

2497
02:49:28,319 --> 02:49:31,239
he did on that. I can't
except he was kind of goofy and he

2498
02:49:31,319 --> 02:49:35,559
had sort of a good spirit.
And see that sound like that? Why

2499
02:49:35,600 --> 02:49:39,000
the fuck are they getting all these
people from the different renditions of the channels,

2500
02:49:39,040 --> 02:49:45,040
like Australian version that. Yeah,
I wish that they kept it to

2501
02:49:45,079 --> 02:49:48,879
the US supposed to be like Flagship, because I didn't watch any of those

2502
02:49:50,559 --> 02:49:54,159
flags I don't watched. The people
I saw was the people that was on

2503
02:49:54,280 --> 02:49:58,600
that World Domination, Global Domination.
That's all I watched too. Yeah.

2504
02:50:00,079 --> 02:50:05,440
Uh so I see Zara's there,
which I like her, but I already

2505
02:50:05,520 --> 02:50:09,799
of the Mercenary people, Yeah,
I saw that. Why did they get

2506
02:50:11,040 --> 02:50:13,559
her and not? I would have
loved to see Kiki on there? I

2507
02:50:13,600 --> 02:50:18,239
fell in love with her on a
season on the way with the boring ass

2508
02:50:18,319 --> 02:50:22,719
winner. I'm sorry Cals didn't do
nothing but talk about THEO all damn time,

2509
02:50:24,280 --> 02:50:26,639
which is the most important. Yeah, that's she did win because she

2510
02:50:26,719 --> 02:50:31,760
was paired of because she is because
she had Jordan's But anybody that was here

2511
02:50:31,799 --> 02:50:37,959
with Jordan would have won. Yeah. Yeah, I'm happy, Like I'm

2512
02:50:37,079 --> 02:50:41,680
very excited for the season. I'm
glad Daisy won. I loves she should

2513
02:50:41,719 --> 02:50:45,600
have won last season, but her
dumb ass partner sucked it up for her.

2514
02:50:45,680 --> 02:50:50,040
But I'm glad that she got the
story and hope we never should come

2515
02:50:50,120 --> 02:50:52,799
back. They should never call him
for the Challenge to ever get keeping.

2516
02:50:52,959 --> 02:50:54,040
Oh, I don't think they will. I think he's too old. I

2517
02:50:54,079 --> 02:50:56,920
think the fact that he quit in
the final like he's never coming back.

2518
02:50:58,360 --> 02:51:01,639
But yeah, he needs to stay
there. I still think that if you

2519
02:51:01,719 --> 02:51:07,159
can't swim, you should not be
allowed on the Challenge. Nd percent can't

2520
02:51:07,239 --> 02:51:11,680
swim. Be'st majority of people cannot
swim at all. Make them lessons and

2521
02:51:11,760 --> 02:51:13,879
learned. They gotta take some lessons, Yes, some people do. We've

2522
02:51:13,879 --> 02:51:16,479
seen some people take lessons and try
to figure it out. But I mean,

2523
02:51:16,559 --> 02:51:20,879
unfortunately, come back. Guy,
who's that guy that almost drowned?

2524
02:51:20,959 --> 02:51:30,319
We saw him have a freak out
in the water a few stand Jose he

2525
02:51:30,319 --> 02:51:35,280
does remember he like a like a
chicken trying to move into that water.

2526
02:51:37,120 --> 02:51:39,959
Yeah, he'd drag some of their
team members and the water is ridiculous,

2527
02:51:41,479 --> 02:51:46,600
like you should not be on the
challenge. When jose fell in the water

2528
02:51:46,879 --> 02:51:52,440
and I was legitimately worried that that
man was gonna die. He was legit

2529
02:51:52,600 --> 02:51:56,159
drowning, so he looks like he
was going to die. Yeah, it

2530
02:51:56,239 --> 02:52:01,799
was crazy, like like, you
like swimming, should definitely be up there.

2531
02:52:01,920 --> 02:52:05,239
And I say it the same thing
about Amanda, who I can't stand

2532
02:52:05,600 --> 02:52:09,840
like Amanda. She claims that she's
good at puzzles. She's and oh another

2533
02:52:09,879 --> 02:52:11,799
thing, when they were doing that
that fucking cinder block thing of people that

2534
02:52:11,879 --> 02:52:16,360
was on the season, I forgot
half these motherfuckers on this. I couldn't

2535
02:52:16,360 --> 02:52:20,040
believe it. It's a john A. I was like, what's Johnny's name

2536
02:52:20,120 --> 02:52:26,799
doing up there? About her?
That's like a yeah, this season this

2537
02:52:26,959 --> 02:52:28,959
is this is Amanda was on there, Like, oh, I forgot Amanda's

2538
02:52:30,319 --> 02:52:37,200
flock ass on the bed. I
could never forget fandam Yeah, but she

2539
02:52:37,399 --> 02:52:41,959
claims that she's good at puzzles,
but the thing is she's terrible eliminations and

2540
02:52:41,040 --> 02:52:45,000
she's sucking up it puzzled and she
can't swim, she can't run. What

2541
02:52:45,159 --> 02:52:52,000
is she good at? She's really
entertaining. You think she's pretty also super

2542
02:52:52,079 --> 02:52:58,680
hot. Give me some exactly that
is because I think carl Maria is beautiful

2543
02:53:00,079 --> 02:53:03,559
as fun. My number one challenge
woman of all time is Carria. It's

2544
02:53:03,639 --> 02:53:07,760
just like when she does the difference. I was so used to her red

2545
02:53:07,840 --> 02:53:11,159
and purple, but when she started
like doing all the different colors in her

2546
02:53:11,200 --> 02:53:13,000
hair and distract from how pretty her
face was. But I think Carmeria is

2547
02:53:13,040 --> 02:53:16,959
fucking gorgeous, great TV, and
she's good at the challenge. Amanda is

2548
02:53:18,040 --> 02:53:22,200
not good at this challenge. Is
step talking about Feesty who Festy doesn't want?

2549
02:53:22,600 --> 02:53:30,559
Doesn't want you that she didn't go
off about that, But I think

2550
02:53:31,000 --> 02:53:33,760
was away gorgeous. She was gorgeous, propped out gorgeous. Daisy is too

2551
02:53:33,799 --> 02:53:37,200
pretty, too pretty for the show. She's too good for this show.

2552
02:53:37,280 --> 02:53:41,159
Just generally everything about Desi is too
good for the show. Jesny is like

2553
02:53:41,280 --> 02:53:46,079
she glows, like she was a
little glowing through this whole fun sobbing.

2554
02:53:46,280 --> 02:53:48,760
When she was sobbing about winning,
I was like, fuck you look so

2555
02:53:48,159 --> 02:53:54,440
when you're just crying. Nobody when
they're crying except Desie. That's the only

2556
02:53:54,520 --> 02:53:58,520
person that this entire world beautiful crying. Yeah, but aside from aside from

2557
02:53:58,559 --> 02:54:01,000
Dosi, I I really think even
though we're on carme real, I just

2558
02:54:01,040 --> 02:54:05,159
think car Maris is so beautiful.
Do you think she should smile? She's

2559
02:54:05,200 --> 02:54:07,840
a smile a little bit more when
she smiles. I just think she just

2560
02:54:07,879 --> 02:54:11,159
looks so pretty. Smiles in her
eyes her eyes turned into those little half

2561
02:54:11,239 --> 02:54:13,879
moons, which are like super adorable. Yeah, yeah, she's beautiful.

2562
02:54:15,440 --> 02:54:18,120
I'm just mad, like I see
that she's on next seasonand but why the

2563
02:54:18,280 --> 02:54:22,079
fuck did we see Pauli's return before
her return? Well, because she was

2564
02:54:22,159 --> 02:54:24,760
on All Stars four and All Stars
four hasn't come out yet. Yeah,

2565
02:54:24,760 --> 02:54:26,479
they're kind of going out of order. Yeah, her car Maris return was

2566
02:54:26,520 --> 02:54:31,399
before Polly's, but just air wasn't
it before thirty nine as well? Yeah,

2567
02:54:31,479 --> 02:54:35,159
so it'll but they just they just
haven't aired the season yet. If

2568
02:54:35,200 --> 02:54:39,079
they had aired the season this past
uh like this past year, this past

2569
02:54:39,120 --> 02:54:41,280
summer sometime like during that two month
break, then we would have gotten her

2570
02:54:41,319 --> 02:54:45,760
first. Yeah. But for some
reason, like literally all the comments,

2571
02:54:46,000 --> 02:54:48,200
like if you go to challenge reddit
and under the Instagram, all the comments,

2572
02:54:48,280 --> 02:54:52,479
now, where the fuck is All
Stars four? They said this is

2573
02:54:52,520 --> 02:54:54,079
the longest. Then they say this
is the longest of the season has yet

2574
02:54:54,159 --> 02:54:58,760
to air. I think I saw
that somewhere. Yeah, by a lot.

2575
02:54:58,040 --> 02:55:01,799
Yeah, there was a count and
it's yeah, it's exceeded it by

2576
02:55:01,399 --> 02:55:05,840
several hundred days. That's crazy.
Like I need him to come and drop

2577
02:55:05,920 --> 02:55:09,159
those That's that was the only season
I was really crazy ready to watch.

2578
02:55:09,200 --> 02:55:11,000
Every other season can go suck it. I'm not excited for thirty nine.

2579
02:55:11,079 --> 02:55:13,600
I'm gonna listen to you guys,
because you guys make it so much better.

2580
02:55:13,600 --> 02:55:18,120
I like to hear Harlane, I
love your a Za's takes, and

2581
02:55:18,200 --> 02:55:20,079
I love you all. I love
you great to hear thanks, we love

2582
02:55:20,120 --> 02:55:24,879
you too. I'm not ready for
this ship. I'm not ready for that

2583
02:55:24,920 --> 02:55:26,399
sit show. I hope I hope
they get zero views. I hope they

2584
02:55:26,399 --> 02:55:31,239
get Yeah, I'm with you.
I'm not ready for you that. Hey,

2585
02:55:31,280 --> 02:55:33,079
we'll hate watch it together. Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, like

2586
02:55:33,159 --> 02:55:37,639
Tim, I'm ready to hear your
like ship on the like every week every

2587
02:55:37,680 --> 02:55:41,799
week. You know, Tim,
the cast, who are you least excited

2588
02:55:41,840 --> 02:55:48,000
to see on that castle ASoft He's
like, why the fuck is he back?

2589
02:55:48,040 --> 02:55:50,959
He didn't do anything nothing. He
was the first out and he's one

2590
02:55:50,959 --> 02:55:52,360
of the He's on every real audience
show ever. This guy has been on

2591
02:55:52,479 --> 02:55:56,120
everything. He's been on a bunch
of them. I forgot cooking shows like

2592
02:55:56,239 --> 02:56:01,120
Celebrity Big Brother, Celebrity Ninja Warrior, something like Dancing with the Stars,

2593
02:56:01,200 --> 02:56:03,639
ships and everything. He's been on
everything, and he's just one of these,

2594
02:56:03,760 --> 02:56:07,200
Like he's just there for to be
on TV. He's not an interesting

2595
02:56:07,360 --> 02:56:11,840
It's crazy to me. First season, like we were forgotten that. We

2596
02:56:11,920 --> 02:56:15,319
didn't forget the him and Tory dated
previously, but he was on toll.

2597
02:56:16,000 --> 02:56:18,559
They had yet to acknowledge he's from
m TV show. They have yet to

2598
02:56:18,600 --> 02:56:22,600
acknowledge that. I don't understand why. But I don't understand why he's there.

2599
02:56:22,760 --> 02:56:24,799
I don't understand why he was there. He was a fucking as well.

2600
02:56:26,920 --> 02:56:35,920
He was that girl from the Mold
Well that was actually personally, that's

2601
02:56:35,040 --> 02:56:43,879
my girl. I mean, Colleen, why is gorgeous? Mariah's boring?

2602
02:56:43,040 --> 02:56:48,280
Mariah is gorgeous, but she's boring
too. She's too plastic. She was

2603
02:56:48,319 --> 02:56:52,239
gorgeous last ye and then, but
now she's just Leana plastic. Zach,

2604
02:56:52,639 --> 02:56:54,040
I don't know if you are you
going to be the big big Mariah fan

2605
02:56:54,120 --> 02:56:58,280
this season because I heard she cheats
on your boy. I heard that too.

2606
02:57:00,280 --> 02:57:01,719
She's on him with that with that
old looking guy. She must have

2607
02:57:01,799 --> 02:57:07,559
debty issues because that guy she's on
with his old I'm here for Olivia and

2608
02:57:07,680 --> 02:57:13,600
Colleen. Those are my girls this
season. Beautiful in persons act, Olivia

2609
02:57:13,760 --> 02:57:16,680
likely gorgeous the person. She is
absolutely stunning in person, second only to

2610
02:57:16,799 --> 02:57:22,159
my wonderful girlfriend also right next to
him. Yeah, I love I love

2611
02:57:22,239 --> 02:57:26,040
that Olivia's back. I love that
she didn't let the accident mess her up.

2612
02:57:26,040 --> 02:57:28,959
I'm roomed for Olivia and I'm moving
for I know Big T is not

2613
02:57:28,040 --> 02:57:31,280
gonna win. It's just she's not. I just love her. But yeah,

2614
02:57:31,319 --> 02:57:37,440
she's great and yeah, but yeah
this, yeah, I'm yeah,

2615
02:57:37,520 --> 02:57:41,040
Yeah, I'm just I'm just not
I'm just not excited, Guys. I

2616
02:57:41,079 --> 02:57:43,600
hate to be a Debbie down I'm
just not excited. I'm a Debbie Downer

2617
02:57:43,639 --> 02:57:45,959
too, man. But we'll hate
watch it together. It's gonna be awesome,

2618
02:57:46,079 --> 02:57:48,120
exactly. I love you, guys. We love you more. Hey,

2619
02:57:48,159 --> 02:57:50,559
and I have my show right now. If it's a terrible season,

2620
02:57:50,600 --> 02:57:54,479
maybe at least next time I'll take
my pants on there. You go,

2621
02:57:54,159 --> 02:58:01,600
don't threaten me. Thanks for all
right, this has been great. But

2622
02:58:01,639 --> 02:58:05,920
it's been three hours and that's yeah, I'm done. It's been fantastic having

2623
02:58:05,959 --> 02:58:09,159
all of you call in. Yes, thank you everybody. We do have

2624
02:58:09,159 --> 02:58:11,840
an AI song to play, Carling, will you play the AI song?

2625
02:58:11,959 --> 02:58:18,440
It's very exciting. Listen, here
we go, moments they race Corey in

2626
02:58:18,479 --> 02:58:22,159
the plassifier face the pitives embrace.
Yes they come, and there we go

2627
02:58:24,040 --> 02:58:31,200
the faked playing catching the swift finish
in the fight, see Darren, Yeah,

2628
02:58:31,319 --> 02:58:35,040
as you cut in line, that's
right. The challenge in the US

2629
02:58:35,079 --> 02:58:41,040
a king to in col you adventure
on bots in the world of competition,

2630
02:58:41,120 --> 02:58:48,319
which change the stories of It's so
so Hayton is my bat pit in the

2631
02:58:48,360 --> 02:58:52,280
beats? Right? It's so bad. But isn't it amazing that a computer

2632
02:58:52,440 --> 02:58:56,600
did that? Like, isn't there
something interesting that's like, holy fucking ship,

2633
02:58:56,639 --> 02:58:58,719
a computer did the whole thing.
Good tech, guys. So you

2634
02:58:58,840 --> 02:59:03,360
than I've fed in like six bullet
points and now I have a song.

2635
02:59:03,639 --> 02:59:07,559
It's crazy, right, It's a
crazy fucking thing. It's a it's a

2636
02:59:07,600 --> 02:59:11,719
crazy piece of technology. Just let's
look at it from that respective. It

2637
02:59:11,799 --> 02:59:13,200
is a crazy piece of technology.
I'm not gonna stop there. We're gonna

2638
02:59:13,239 --> 02:59:16,840
have We're gonna have a terrible song
every episode of this show from now until

2639
02:59:16,920 --> 02:59:20,280
I'm done doing this show. Well, if we think thanks and they'll just

2640
02:59:20,319 --> 02:59:22,079
slowly get better, we think next
sunsone is gonna be terrible. At least

2641
02:59:22,079 --> 02:59:24,600
we'll have a terrible song to be
exactly right. Yeah, yeah, all

2642
02:59:24,680 --> 02:59:28,040
right. So do we want to
close it out? Do you want to

2643
02:59:28,079 --> 02:59:31,680
go through Patreon things or we just
on it tonight? Let's get the Patreon

2644
02:59:31,760 --> 02:59:35,159
thing because I don't have that up. But we did get an extra We

2645
02:59:35,319 --> 02:59:37,559
we got a review today. We
love your We love your reviews that you

2646
02:59:37,680 --> 02:59:41,719
leave on like Apple podcasts and all
the other things. This one is from

2647
02:59:41,840 --> 02:59:46,319
J D. Lunar oh one titled
after you, mister Zachie Bananas. Although

2648
02:59:46,360 --> 02:59:50,840
you are not referenced in the review. I don't know why it's titled after

2649
02:59:50,920 --> 02:59:54,200
you. That must have been like
who's your favorite? Maybe that's it says

2650
02:59:54,239 --> 02:59:58,040
love the show and be listening to
you for listening for years, it's my

2651
02:59:58,159 --> 03:00:03,840
favorite challenge podcast and Rezero degrading comments
in any of your season's episodes must have

2652
03:00:03,840 --> 03:00:07,120
been that one talking about what.
I really want to know where that came

2653
03:00:07,159 --> 03:00:09,319
from. I feel like they were
listening to somebody else's yeah lost me at

2654
03:00:09,520 --> 03:00:13,000
he must be weird or he's gay. That's that was the Yeah, that

2655
03:00:13,079 --> 03:00:18,280
was the one. It's still here. I listened to them for a second

2656
03:00:18,319 --> 03:00:22,159
time, so they like re reviewed
us listening for We appreciate that. Thank

2657
03:00:22,159 --> 03:00:24,559
you. I did not have any
I would be a patron if you took

2658
03:00:24,639 --> 03:00:28,719
cash. Hey, come on down
to Germantown Hills, Allinois. We'll take

2659
03:00:28,760 --> 03:00:31,840
cash. Thank you. Tim gives
out his address. You could just mail

2660
03:00:31,920 --> 03:00:37,399
two ten hand and drive cashiers check
from the banks. Yes, please stop

2661
03:00:37,440 --> 03:00:41,319
on bye. Thank you for entertaining
me for an hour a week for the

2662
03:00:41,399 --> 03:00:46,239
past five years. I'm thinking,
yeah, you're welcome. That's it.

2663
03:00:46,200 --> 03:00:48,719
Well, thank you for the review. Did I say who that person's name

2664
03:00:48,840 --> 03:00:52,120
was? JD Lunar? Oh,
thank you JD. We love you.

2665
03:00:52,479 --> 03:01:00,840
Yes, thank you are officially our
patron or slash for viewer of the month.

2666
03:01:01,520 --> 03:01:03,040
Yes you're not paton. You're a
reviewer of the month, reviewer of

2667
03:01:03,200 --> 03:01:09,680
the month feeding because seventy seventy seven
who complimented Carlin. So, Carling,

2668
03:01:09,719 --> 03:01:11,959
do you want to let that go
or are you are you going to pump

2669
03:01:11,040 --> 03:01:15,440
up? Well? I feel it
you seventy seven and a few the compliment

2670
03:01:15,639 --> 03:01:18,959
made so not that's month though,
Oh it's a month, right, it's

2671
03:01:20,000 --> 03:01:22,799
a month. Yeah, I mean
I appreciate all the all the comments.

2672
03:01:22,120 --> 03:01:26,159
Yeah, and it is really touching
to hear anybody say we've been listening for

2673
03:01:26,319 --> 03:01:28,159
years. Yeah, that shit,
it's really It means it does me not

2674
03:01:30,040 --> 03:01:33,879
otherwise I had stopped doing this years
ago. Yeah, that's great. Very

2675
03:01:33,920 --> 03:01:37,040
little that keeps me going, So
feed me, feed my ego. I

2676
03:01:37,200 --> 03:01:39,479
sometimes worry that Allison stops pay attention
to me after a couple hours. So

2677
03:01:39,559 --> 03:01:43,399
the fact people listen to us for
years, yeah, it's crazy, it's

2678
03:01:43,479 --> 03:01:46,280
crazy. It's nice getting in on
the you know, the ground floor of

2679
03:01:46,360 --> 03:01:48,760
this show. It's the opposite of
the most people say it's humbling, but

2680
03:01:48,799 --> 03:01:54,879
it's not. It's the opposite of
it. It's ego building. Yeah,

2681
03:01:54,959 --> 03:01:58,559
you know, it's nice being able
to join this show sixty seven. Well,

2682
03:01:58,719 --> 03:02:01,040
we built it. We built the
fuck Empire and allowed newbies to join

2683
03:02:01,120 --> 03:02:05,520
it. We're very generous people,
you know. I know she made me

2684
03:02:05,600 --> 03:02:07,040
promised never say this, and I'd
already say it. Once and say again.

2685
03:02:07,040 --> 03:02:11,000
But like when I met Crystal,
she almost hearted crying, like she's

2686
03:02:11,079 --> 03:02:13,520
like, I was like, why
are you She's like, I can't believe

2687
03:02:13,559 --> 03:02:16,280
I finally get to meet you.
I'm sorry, Crystal, I love you.

2688
03:02:16,319 --> 03:02:20,559
And you said they never call this, but yeah, it's very touching.

2689
03:02:20,760 --> 03:02:22,440
We love all this. We love
all this. Yes, and I

2690
03:02:22,680 --> 03:02:24,760
love you, Chris. I'm sorry
that you didn't come to join us.

2691
03:02:24,760 --> 03:02:28,239
She's in Illinois. YouTube. Yeah, next time, Crystal come join us.

2692
03:02:30,479 --> 03:02:31,760
We're not doing an after show,
guys, I'm calling it. Yeah

2693
03:02:33,399 --> 03:02:37,399
hours three hours only have one social
media. It's quick, it's not even

2694
03:02:37,440 --> 03:02:41,000
that relevant to us. But uh, Hirasio's original show he came to his

2695
03:02:41,120 --> 03:02:46,319
friend was called Exultant in uh in
like South America or whoever that's called between

2696
03:02:46,399 --> 03:02:52,280
US and South America, and uh
they Centralica. Yes, anyway, they

2697
03:02:52,399 --> 03:02:56,680
just announced Exultant All Stars and Hiassia
will be a contestant on it. Okay,

2698
03:02:56,200 --> 03:03:01,159
well cool? Oh and and Corey
about a house this week or yeah,

2699
03:03:01,159 --> 03:03:05,440
people were speculating does that mean he
won? No? Apparently no,

2700
03:03:05,760 --> 03:03:09,200
All right, well bye, everybody, We love most of you. Ye

2701
03:03:09,479 --> 03:03:24,600
by that middle button, by the
chata Okay, peek neurery I,