WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:07.639 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:14.039 fourteen to fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kat 3 00:00:14.359 --> 00:00:18.920 z R two SAD at iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. 4 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:22.239 Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve 5 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:25.839 Riverta, He's Jagan Zaliz. We got our guy Kevin in for the first 6 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:28.839 two hours for every day we this is on that show to this week. 7 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:32.079 So if you guys want to call us find us here about that Steve Broo, 8 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:34.560 Yeah, well I was gonna say it for the first fifteen An're gonna 9 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:37.240 here for two hours, right, You're not gonna skip out on us the 10 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:40.520 whole show. Thank you very much. Good show today. We have planned 11 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:46.479 yes, our disclosure and full disclosure. We spoke to Desiree Reid fancois. 12 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:52.159 We had everybody, not everybody but media people who were wanted it got a 13 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:55.520 one on one time. So we did record an interview with her about a 14 00:00:55.719 --> 00:01:00.079 thirteen minute interview that will play as the second segment where we normally have a 15 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.759 guest. We put it on as our guest list you know, she's our 16 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:04.480 guest, right, we recorded it, and yeah, and as a good 17 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:08.000 interview, and you know, trying to get some insight into into her. 18 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:11.480 You know that she doesn't have a lot of time who she is on the 19 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:14.400 job yet, but we had you know, we asked some questions just trying 20 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:18.359 to get to know her. So we play that after the three fifteen break, 21 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:23.239 and then we want to soothe your savage beasts for the college basketball rust 22 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.680 whatever's left of it with Corey Williams, who gives his insight to whatever he's 23 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:30.760 seen so far well to this point in the college basketball world, he's been 24 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.599 out there covering a lot of games, asking what the hell is going on? 25 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.760 What the hell is going not just with Arizona but everywhere. He's been 26 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:42.239 all over the country, in the West Coast mostly. So I ask you 27 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:48.400 both this, how's your trust level today? You know it's it's not any 28 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:51.799 different than it was before. We already got to call her. Let's take 29 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.120 this. Yeah, are you guys taking calls? We are? You're on 30 00:01:55.159 --> 00:02:01.640 the air. Hello is this Jay? And Steve? Hey Jay, Hey 31 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:07.960 Steve, This is Can And I wanted to know how many how deep in 32 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:13.639 the in the bench. Do you think will go in Vegas and also in 33 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.840 the march? Man? Is how many players will we see action? No 34 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:19.840 different than what you've seen eight did you go? Eight? Eight? Nine? 35 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:22.599 Man, No, you're not going to see Philip. You're not going 36 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:27.520 to see Maurice short of a blowout, yeah, yeah, but in quality 37 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:30.199 time, Yeah, he's going to go with these guys. He's this is 38 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.680 not the time to test that taking any chance. Yeah, why do you 39 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:39.319 ask? I was curious if there's any thought or possibility if we run into 40 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:45.960 teams like we've lost to about possibly starting to play a full court press, 41 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:49.240 if we get behind to try to get back in the game, which would 42 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:52.800 require some additional people. No, that's that's not happening. Well, they 43 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:54.960 press, okay, you know they press some I don't. I don't. 44 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:58.919 They're not. Here's the deal. They're not going to change what they do. 45 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:01.719 They've been doing what they've been doing for you know, the whole season, 46 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:05.439 and they're they're not you know, they're not going to change that up. 47 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:07.840 You know, the the losses that they've had or you know, have 48 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:13.400 been bad, but they're still the better team on the court pretty much every 49 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.120 time. They're not they're gonna make the other team change what they do. 50 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:21.439 Okay, thanks guys, thank you for the call. Thank you. Thanks. 51 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:23.159 This kid's first time calling that. I appreciate it. But no, 52 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:27.879 I mean, you know, getting back to your question, right, the 53 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.280 trust level is the same, and it would have been the same had they 54 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:32.759 won or lost. They can still lose to anybody, and and they did. 55 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.400 I was initially. You saw how pissed off it was on our on 56 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:42.479 our text thread, you know, Saturday night. I can't remember, well, 57 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:45.439 there was an F bomb in there. I lost my mind, but 58 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:50.080 I lost my mind because I was so mad that they blew uh a parlay 59 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.280 for me, you know what. The funny thing about it, and that's 60 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:57.599 what pissed And then when I realized that's why I was mad, and really 61 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:01.639 nothing has changed about them, I was better. Well, you're you're speaking 62 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:06.520 about somebody something of the subject to Uh. There's another guy on Facebook because 63 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:10.159 a friend of mine, and he's the more realistic guy, and he says, 64 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:12.360 you know a lot of the people who are complaining and bitching and blah 65 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:15.599 blah they lost is for that reason. They have money on them, right, 66 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:17.680 and they're complaining. Guess what don't put money on him. Don't put 67 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:19.360 it on him, and you'll have a better life. Well, and I'll 68 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.519 be at the game, So that'll be the last time I do that, 69 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:26.040 right, you know. But you know a road games, you know a 70 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:28.720 fair game, right. And it was an obvious win. I just wanted 71 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:30.600 it was an obvious right. All they had to do was win the game. 72 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:31.720 They didn't even have to cover. It was obvious win. But it 73 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:35.000 was not so obvious. We we We're not going to say that we predicted 74 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:39.199 this, but going into this season, going into the weekend, we think, 75 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:42.040 Okay, good game, bad game. It's always the up for a 76 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:45.279 game. And the one thing I've said on this show more than anything is 77 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:47.680 the one thing I've learned about being in sportswatter is the emotions of kids when 78 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:51.879 they play and if they're not specific to basketball, if you're not up for 79 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:55.519 a game. And this was Loot's teams too, because I'll take this one 80 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:58.360 or two guys they don't show up, they don't show up, and it 81 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:02.680 affects everybody. Give you one example Utah nineteen ninety eight. I'll give you 82 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:04.560 more examples if you want to, right, how do you and and the 83 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:08.920 question is I get why they were not up for this game. Yeah, 84 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:14.360 I don't like it. I think I think it's it's bad form, but 85 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:17.560 I get it and I understood it. I wasn't happy about it, but 86 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:21.879 I was like, you know, in the end, nothing was going to 87 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:26.360 change, you know, tennis. You know, Tennessee had won, Tennessee's 88 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.680 on the Tennessee's got that one seed. Now what's changed is maybe they've dropped 89 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:33.279 one more spot to the this according to Lenardi, they're the second two seed, 90 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:39.120 and maybe they could have gotten the one seed. But those guys, 91 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:41.879 it's just like we're one or two, we're gonna We're gonna play whoever we 92 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.959 play. So that struck me as odd. The way they played kind of 93 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:48.240 not really okay, did that it struck you as odd? Kind of not 94 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:50.720 really well, no, kind of not really well. Yeah, because they 95 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:56.040 thought they would want to keep sure the momentum keeps, you know, stay 96 00:05:56.040 --> 00:06:00.399 hot, play well and not. But then on the other hand, it 97 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:02.240 was the second game of the road, was the last game of the regular 98 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:09.000 season, they clinched the league. You can see how a twenty year old 99 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:13.240 dude or twenty two year old dude would go out there and pooped a bit. 100 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:17.079 Yeah, so okay, so, uh did you read my column? 101 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:19.399 You didn't? I know you did. Did you get a kind of I 102 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:23.879 can win a little snarky, but but it was truthful. So so then 103 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:28.600 then I listened to Tommy. Did you listen Tommy? He was He was 104 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:30.639 like, oh, okay, no, nothing to see here. Stuff happened, 105 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:34.199 stuff happens, will be okay. I was kind of like taken aback 106 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:39.680 by his almost nonchalant and I think that upsets people. Yeah, he doesn't 107 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:44.800 get upset about losses like that. It seems like fans get more upset than 108 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:46.600 he does about losses, right, very much. So I just thought it 109 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:48.879 was kind of like he's done that most of the year or two. You 110 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:51.360 know, all you guys will get over it, blah blah blah. But 111 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:55.199 but for that one, I'm thinking, yeah, you know, he maybe 112 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:58.240 a little more fired. But I'm not the coach and he's I'm not Tommy, 113 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:00.959 and we're all different. We all react to death or lost differently, 114 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:05.079 right, But it was kind of surprising to me in as much as they 115 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:09.360 just didn't play well, and they haven't played well and in four or five 116 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:14.319 six games such as these Yeah, and you know, and you know immediately, 117 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:15.959 you know, I started getting text messages from people who listen to the 118 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:21.519 show pointing out that, you know, three lots they lost the three worst 119 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:27.000 teams in the league. Correct, how does that happen? For the exact 120 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:30.240 reason we talked about emotional If you're not emotionally up, you just show up. 121 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:32.399 If there was a basketball come on, we can go through and I 122 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:38.199 have the media guy here. We can go through every NCAA tournament game and 123 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:42.759 explain things. How will they happen and why they happened? Who your question? 124 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:45.519 The judge Busher in nineteen ninety, Yeah, how does that happen? 125 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:47.040 Does it happened? We weren't ready. We weren't ready. We did we 126 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:51.439 didn't. My transition to that we didn't take this game serious enough. I 127 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:57.600 think Lude is still looking down here mad at me. Yeah, but it 128 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:01.560 and that translates to me is we didn't take this game serious enough that we 129 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:05.319 had to care. And that's the issue with Arizona basketball, right because it 130 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.040 out of the basketball. They're blue bloods right there for every game and they 131 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.399 should win every game. Right. Okay, we'll talk more about that. 132 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.160 Anybody want to call. We still have time. We're hoping to gets your 133 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:20.480 calls. We can't get the calls from during the Desiree trans first of all 134 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.879 interview, but throughout the show we can. We can do this our last 135 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:28.240 week, the last show of the week. Right, where are you going? 136 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.000 I'm going to the backbuff Tournament. I'm going to Disney. No, 137 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:35.320 I'm not going to Disneyland. Disney. We're both here tomorrow for the tournament. 138 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.080 As we've mentioned, Unfortunately, we can't do a show from there, 139 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:43.639 just the timing does not work for us, So we're off the rest of 140 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:45.720 the week. It will beat You'll have here to the national feed. Then 141 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:48.240 we'll we'll come back on Monday to kind of break down, not on the 142 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.720 tournament, but you know the bracket. The bracket will be out on Sunday. 143 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:54.200 Yeah, and in between this, we had promised something on Friday that 144 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:58.879 we kind of spaced out because we have a good show today. Our twelve 145 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:03.879 or Memories of the Pac twelve, and we'll do it football basketball, and 146 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:05.600 we'll randomly kind of throw them in there when we have a chance, you 147 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.360 know. So if you guys have any throughout this whole time, give us 148 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.080 a call. Let us know what you think of what yours were. You 149 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:16.960 don't pack twelve titles big games. Be advised that Steve and I are old, 150 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:20.600 and so our memories are probably going to go way back. Yeah, 151 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:22.840 probably before I know, it's certainly before Kevin was born, but before. 152 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.559 A lot of good thing is our listeners are old like us, so they 153 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:30.960 have a lot of great memories back in the good old days. I mean, 154 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.360 it goes, it goes way back, right, And no memory is 155 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.039 a bad one, just it's your memory. It's just yeah. I mean 156 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:39.200 the things that stick out to me are all things that came out. You 157 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.120 know, we've got a long time. We got to take this collar. 158 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.480 Hi, you're on the air and eye on the ball. Hello. Hello, 159 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:52.480 oh no, okay, go ahead. Hello, Hello, you're on 160 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:56.919 the air. Yeah, Hi, oh okay, Hi Jay, Hi, 161 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:03.440 It's Kevin ke and Lehman. What's up. Well, I gotta tell you 162 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:05.799 I was watching the game. I was out of the country, but I 163 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:09.080 found a way to watch it. I have to tell you this because I 164 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:13.159 go back to the I think, guess was the Washington State Games, and 165 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.639 I listened to your analysis of it, and I thought, and these guys 166 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:24.480 are better than those go falls on ESPN. And I'd love to know what 167 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:28.399 your analysis of that game was. It was obviously sloppy and all that, 168 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:33.519 but I mean, how do you do that? Well, I'd love to 169 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.960 know what your insights are. No, stay on the phone, because who 170 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:41.000 better than you? Then talk about psychology? I think we should ask you, 171 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.120 right and let me ask you for my valuation? Is any because it's 172 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:48.480 it's emotions psychology. They had already won Thursday. They celebrated like crazy in 173 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:52.399 the locker room with their banners and the water and the craziness and Richard Jefferson 174 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.039 and Okay, you know what do we play for on Saturday? You've been 175 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.240 around Arizona basketball long enough Kevin to know that there was a little kind of 176 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.799 walks differently, he talks differently, and they think they're going to show up 177 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:05.360 at USC and everything's gonna be hunky dory, and it doesn't work that way. 178 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.039 It just doesn't. So I'm thinking over confidence killed the Cats on this 179 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:13.919 one. Well, I don't use I don't use four letter language, but 180 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:20.440 I'm going to you can bleep this out n I L Yes, you're right, 181 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:26.240 it's only three letters. But you know what people forget is these kids 182 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:30.759 are making a ton of money. And nobody in the U of A is 183 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:35.240 going to tell you how much money that eighteen year old is making and how 184 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:37.919 much Bollo is making. But they're making a ton of money, and so 185 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:43.519 what you just said, Yeah, they're out parttering, partering, parting the 186 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:48.679 word right, and with Richard Jefferson and all the celebration. I get it. 187 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:54.039 I mean it's let down, trapped plus but yeah, it's beyond me. 188 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.879 When your coach says your next game is going to really test your maturity, 189 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:01.879 I would say, we got a bunch of toddlers out there when of 190 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:05.519 the money's on the line and it scares eleven heck out of me, It'll 191 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.559 be interesting to see. I'll give you one more thought of mine. And 192 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:15.200 if they if they end up winning the Back ten Championship, uh, you 193 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:20.240 know the tournament. What a tournament? And then they turn around, Uh 194 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:24.480 I think, well, I think there'll be a one seed if they win 195 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:26.919 the tournament. No, I'll have to distribute with you. I think that 196 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.080 one seed is gone. May be the first number two seed, but no, 197 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.519 there's there's no way. All right, Well, let's just remember that 198 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:37.200 and we'll see what happens. Okay, because I love you guys, you 199 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:43.039 call me and ridiculed me, We'll have you back on this show. Thanks 200 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:46.559 Duck, Thanks Duck. All right, Kevin, you appreciated enjoying yourself. 201 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.799 Thank you. I think he's more qualified to tell us what, you know, 202 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:54.000 what might have happened over there. I mean, I mean, we've 203 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:58.679 been watching sports for years and you've seen teams do this. You think teams 204 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:01.240 don't do it, but they do. They do it, they do the 205 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:05.519 best teams do it. You know, good teams do it, and and 206 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:11.200 and you know, how do you explain Purdue losing to Fairly Dickinson last year? 207 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:15.080 They obviously didn't take Fairly Dickinson seriously. Virginia or the time Virginia lost 208 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:16.639 as a one seed, they didn't take that team wherever it was. They 209 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:22.679 play Arizona and against you know, a couple of times, and no matter 210 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:28.559 what, even if it is the NC Double a tournament, they think of 211 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:33.600 they're looking at the team that's in front of clearly, and so you know, 212 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:37.159 I think I think it was a simple matter of they went out there, 213 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.679 they didn't take this game seriously because they just didn't. I mean at 214 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:45.639 the first TV timeout, I'm like, oh no, this it had a 215 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:50.480 bad feel to it. You've coached, I know what level it's at, 216 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.360 so it's a different level, but you've coached. If the kids think they're 217 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:58.120 better than they are and they play against a team they think that they can 218 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.279 crush, sometimes they don't play. Yeah, I mean, come on, 219 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:03.519 I'm sure we got run ruled by some bad teams. It's both in BASEB 220 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.399 politics, and you've been able to beat teams that thought the same of you, 221 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:09.360 that that thought the same of us. It happens. It happens. 222 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.279 Yeah, at any level, any and every level, for any level, 223 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:18.720 girls and guys, girls, guys, pro college, high school, very 224 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.360 much, little, wherever. And it's unexplained. It's unexplainable. But that's 225 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.559 the explanation. Yeah, it's it. It's it all right. Uh uh. 226 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:31.799 Coming up our interview earlier today with the Desiree Read francois, the new 227 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:33.480 athletic director at Arizona. She's been on the job about a week now, 228 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:37.480 so didn't We weren't able to get a lot of what's going on, but 229 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.600 just some of her plans and the things and who she is and who she 230 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:45.519 is and the things that she she has in the work. 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Who would have imagined thirty some years 307 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:26.680 ago this young woman here going to school while school and joining the U of 308 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:32.000 A Colors is now the ad? Who would have ever thought that it is? 309 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:34.440 It's a dream come true. It really is. It's very special to 310 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:40.319 come full circle. And you know I've mentioned and I've talked to you a 311 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:45.240 lot of it just feels like I'm coming home. We spoke to you. 312 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:49.039 I spoke to you in Sacramento a year ago, almost to the day Arizona 313 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:52.599 played out there and Missouri played out there, and you're the AD at the 314 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.680 time, and I'm thinking, Wow, what a dynamic woman. And then 315 00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:59.279 when the job came open, I'm thinking, Uh, there's a girl. 316 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:02.839 And I didn't mention who she and I tould sur friends, but she said 317 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:06.880 Missouri, they're doing really well athletically and and everything else. She'd never come 318 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:10.559 here and here you are did you how much thought did you have to put 319 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:17.039 into it to come? I talked to the football team this morning and I 320 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:21.839 asked them how many of you had other opportunities? And they raised their hands 321 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:25.480 with their fairly level athletes. And I'm in no way saying I'm gonna lead 322 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:29.400 level athletes. I'm going to be very very clear enough. And I said 323 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.000 but, and I pointed it at Noah and I said, well, why 324 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:36.359 did you choose to stay here at Arizona? And he said family? And 325 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:38.799 then I pointed to another young man and he said love. And I said, 326 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:42.599 you know what, we shared that in Common, Missouri, the University 327 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:48.440 of Missouri, the people were incredible. My student athletes were incredible. My 328 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.559 son is a student athlete there, and you're right we were. There was 329 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:57.039 some really good momentum in the athletic department. So the University of Missouri, 330 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:02.359 the people were so very spell and we had a lot of great momentum. 331 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:08.480 I was not looking to leave when doctor Robbins called me about this. Initially 332 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:14.359 I thought it was a call about I was. I was speaking to the 333 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:18.359 law school on that on that Sunday Monday. Is something that I'd been planned 334 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:25.200 six months in advance, and when he talked to me about the role, 335 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:30.920 my my first blush in my heart just said, yes, you need to 336 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:36.200 do this. The University of Arizona, like I said in the press conference, 337 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:41.839 they the College of Law. And when Willie Jordan Curtis, my former 338 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:45.759 dean, when she showed up at that press conference, it was I felt 339 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:51.000 like I was twenty two again and I this was a heart move and just 340 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:53.559 like the football players, and they were talking about family and love. That's 341 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:57.680 that's why I came back. So you know, it was a while ago 342 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:00.519 that you were actually announced to be the the ad You've only been on the 343 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.759 job a month, But what do you I mean a week? Excuse me, 344 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.400 but what do you know so far about the job and is it shaping 345 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:14.160 up to be what you thought coming in? I look outside and I see 346 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:18.640 those banners, and we have twenty two national championships with our last one I 347 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:23.039 think in twenty eighteen with women's golf. The University of Arizona has an incredible 348 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:29.759 championship passed. We have a lot of success. What men's basketball is doing, 349 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:33.559 what football has done. Women's basketball, I think they have a thirty 350 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:38.519 four net and I hope that they that they get selected for the NCAA tournament. 351 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:45.000 I just saw women's tennis on Sunday and they beat University Nevada Areno, 352 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:52.960 and we've there's so much greatness here. There's such a storied and championship pass. 353 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:55.960 I was here in ninety seven when we won the national championship, and 354 00:23:56.039 --> 00:24:00.880 so what my job is is to come in and build build a model business. 355 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:03.880 I don't want to just balance the budget. We've got to build a 356 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.839 strong infrastructure. We've got to make sure we have the right people in the 357 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:12.519 right spaces. They understand their job, responsibilities and what success looks like, 358 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.119 and we're giving them the resources and then we're holding them accountable. We've got 359 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:21.960 to build an athletic department team so that we can continue to have that success. 360 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.839 These are challenging times and athletics across the country, not just here at 361 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:30.880 the University of Arizona, but everywhere across the country. And how we will 362 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:34.519 tackle those challenges is if we have a very strong athletic department team. So 363 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:41.160 you ask me, I think about what I was surprised about and what I'm 364 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:45.920 excited about are our students. You know, Caleb Love has spent a little 365 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:51.799 time with him in Los Angeles, and he's a really incredible young man. 366 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:55.440 He is a great teammate. He's a caring young man in the isis space 367 00:24:55.519 --> 00:25:00.279 and then Noah's and I look forward to getting to know our student athlete and 368 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.839 hearing their hopes and dreams. I want to work with our coaches and make 369 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.079 sure that they have the resources and support they need to be successful. I 370 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:11.440 look forward to going in an athletic department team. So about Children of weeks 371 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.400 ago, when you were announced as the new AD. I start to a 372 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:18.680 colleague of vahe Grigorian who you know? And I know a colleague of mind 373 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:21.640 form a colleague of mine, and I said, what's she about? He 374 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:26.640 sent me this. She is a sports force of nature and a very delightful 375 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:33.559 person. How can you be two with the scene? Well, like, 376 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:41.680 first of all, he's been very very kind. You can be strong and 377 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:48.640 be kind. They are not mutually exclusive. I am driven by a purpose 378 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:56.799 of providing student athletes with a championship experience, a holistically championship experience. But 379 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.759 I don't have a lot of tolerance for nonsense. And I shared that with 380 00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:04.960 the staff that you know we're going to do things the right way. I 381 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:10.680 look for people of high character, and you know, every team that I've 382 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:14.759 ever been a part of, you got to put your team first. You've 383 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.599 got to be selfless, you've got to be smart, and you've got to 384 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:22.119 be incredibly hard working. So I think it's if you're guided by your purpose, 385 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:29.559 then you don't have to have you can withstand the challenges. And in 386 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:33.440 terms of I don't know if you means by force of nature that that we 387 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.680 drive things, and we drive pretty hard, but but we do because we're 388 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:44.559 guided by a higher calling. As you begin to tackle the financial situation that 389 00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:47.359 you have here, you know, where do you start on something like that 390 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:49.559 that just seems so big. Well, in addition to that, we had 391 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:52.240 the doctor ns on it go ah and ask that question. Well, doctor 392 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.240 Robins said, you thought it could be fixed in eighteen to thirty six months. 393 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.359 How aggressive is that? Or is that something that you're on board with 394 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:06.839 and that you think is doable? We absolutely are. What we're going to 395 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.440 do is so my first step. So when I first got here, I 396 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:12.920 told the staff, I have five priorities in three to five special projects in 397 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.880 this first quarter and the first one is our people. The second one is 398 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.359 university partnerships. We can't fix this by ourselves, so I tend to work 399 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:26.480 with I am working with President Robins John Arnold in my university colleagues, but 400 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.640 also we need to be great partners in athletics. The third thing is I 401 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:33.839 have to analyze the budget, and so I've been working a lot on that 402 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.000 and looking at where our financials are. But also it's not just building to 403 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.599 balance the budget. We've got to build the infrastructure to have that model business. 404 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.640 As an athletic director, you're a CEO of a one hundred and fifty 405 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.599 million at the other place, one hundred and twenty million dollar company with an 406 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:55.119 altruistic purpose within the framework of we're one of I think there's eighty one campus 407 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:59.000 units, but we're a very visible campus unit, and so we have to 408 00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:04.759 embrace that responsibility. So I look forward to building that business model with both 409 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:08.960 a short term and then longer term goals and expectations. But we're going to 410 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:14.960 analyze every single one of our departments and our profit centers and then look at 411 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.920 our cost centers and figuring out figure out is this now I'm pointing him up. 412 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.880 I want to ask the next question and figure out is the way we're 413 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.119 doing it? Is this the best way to do it? Or are we 414 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:27.519 doing it because this is how we've always done it. You talk about the 415 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:33.440 model business, how different is that today than maybe two years ago, five 416 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:40.839 years ago, ten years ago. The intercollegiate athletics landscape across the country is 417 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:48.400 changing at an incredibly rapid pace. I would argue the fastest pace that we've 418 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:55.079 ever seen in the history of college sports, specifically when you look at name, 419 00:28:55.119 --> 00:29:00.559 image and likeness, revenue share, litigation, conference re alignment, television 420 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:07.119 contracts. Yeah, the lawsuits are coming rapidly, but you know what, 421 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:15.680 it's a beautiful game. We're providing access to higher education and we're providing some 422 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:21.319 of the best leadership teachings that you'll ever have in your whole life. The 423 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.279 experience you have as a student athlete will take well. So we have to 424 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:29.519 not get away from our core purpose. We have to recognize their challenges. 425 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.599 We've got to have a great team, a great infrastructure, and then we're 426 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:34.799 gonna we're going to take those on head on. Well, let me ask 427 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:41.119 you, obviously, a dynamic person, the person you've been a student athlete, 428 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:44.200 been an ad you've been an attorney. What did you want to be 429 00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:48.400 when you were a little girl. I wanted to be the first female GM 430 00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:53.359 in the National Football League with the forty nine ers. And how did it 431 00:29:53.480 --> 00:30:03.640 come to this? I realized that working in athletics is part of my DNA 432 00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:08.400 growing up. I'm not a great natural athlete by any stretch. I'm remarkably 433 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:14.599 uncoordinated, but I work really hard. Athletics is a place that I can 434 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:18.920 compete. And it was okay. You were. You weren't told to not 435 00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.960 you weren't told to you know, keep your opinions to yourself, but you 436 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.759 were. I you were encouraged to compete. So that's why I love athletics. 437 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:29.440 And also I wouldn't be sitting here in front of you all if it 438 00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:32.359 wasn't for my dad was an eighth grade English teacher and my mom was a 439 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:37.240 school secretary and she and she uh uh worked part time. I come from 440 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.640 a a very lower middle class family, but it was because of education that 441 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:47.240 I'm able to do what I do. And so I s believe in the 442 00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:51.440 power of higher education to transform lives. So when you so, when you 443 00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:55.240 met with the administration here when you first got here, and obviously the man 444 00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:56.400 I think that was the word you use. I can't remember what it was 445 00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:03.559 specifically. How did they receive you should I don't know how to How was 446 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.599 I received? I'm looking at our stuff. Uh. You know, I 447 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:14.200 think champions of champions rise to the occasion. If you are someone that wants 448 00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.960 to revel in mediocrity, if you are someone that just wants to do just 449 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:21.480 enough to get by, uh, if this is not gonna be the place 450 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:23.599 for you. If you are someone that says, hey, I want high 451 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:30.200 expectations, I embrace challenge. I am gonna work and I'm gonna prove that 452 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.079 that I that I am the best at what I do in this not only 453 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.119 in this entire conference, but an entire country. If that's what you're looking 454 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.519 for, and you are gonna love it here and this will be the dynamic 455 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.200 uh work environment that you will thrive. But if you're looking to revel in 456 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:51.279 mediocrity, it's gonna be a struggle. Last question, with all the uncertainty 457 00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:55.279 you mentioned the second ago. You know, in athletics, the possibility of 458 00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.599 student athletes becoming employees, uh, those kinds of things. How how can 459 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.119 you manage this recovery that you need to manage. I mean, there's so 460 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:07.119 much uncertainty. There's uncertainty, but and there's a little bit of chaos. 461 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.920 But you know what that brings. It brings opportunity, and that's what we're 462 00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:14.559 about. You know, when Name, Image and Likeness first came on board, 463 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:16.440 instead of complaining about it, we said, hey, you know what, 464 00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:20.359 let's look and let's make it a competitive advantage. And you know, 465 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.480 we were pretty aggressive in my prior place, and you know, worked with 466 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:30.920 our legislature and created a law that was remarkably competitive and and it really helped 467 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.519 our programs. So I'm not saying that we're going to necessarily change the law 468 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.240 here. I would never mean to get out in front of our legislature and 469 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:42.680 certainly not my president either. But we're going to look at everything we're doing 470 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.480 and making sure that what we're doing is the best in class, and if 471 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:49.079 it's not, then we got to figure out why not. And I just 472 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.640 don't want to always do things just because we've always done it that way. 473 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:54.279 Well, thank you very much, as rightful, hope to see you more 474 00:32:54.359 --> 00:33:00.920 on the show. Appreciate it. Thank you guys. Fare down. I 475 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:07.519 found her to be very intriguing, honest, very bright. Obviously you don't 476 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.079 becoming really smart. Uh. And let me see this. We we've talked 477 00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:15.039 about this internally with us, and I don't think i'm miss speaking. I 478 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.079 think that people in that building will have to up their game. You're gonna 479 00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.359 have to be on their toes and you're right up there. Game is a 480 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:27.319 good way to put it in that she you know, she said, I 481 00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.359 mean, I'm I'm I can I can be nice, and I can be 482 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.640 all those things. But I'm gonna, you know, basically, she said, 483 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.039 in a nice way, I'm coming in here to you know, make 484 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.759 some changes and and and if you want to come up, yep, you 485 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:40.960 got. If you're gonna come along for the ride, then you better be 486 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.119 prepared to work hard. Let's let's take a break. We can take the 487 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:46.119 break now and then come back and talk more about this. Yes, and 488 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.680 then we take some calls. Yep, let's talk about There is a lot 489 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.519 to talk about, So stick around and come back. We'll kind of recap 490 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.880 all that she said, so we'll be back. If you're an Arizona men's 491 00:33:55.880 --> 00:34:00.640 basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years now take a 492 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.839 look back at the Ludolsen era in my new book, Lessons from Loot. 493 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.519 It was a labor of love through the eyes of twenty five former players, 494 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.400 coaches and friends to give insight to the coach and the man who led them, 495 00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:14.000 competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his twenty 496 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:17.360 five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from Loot is an insight to how 497 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:22.159 he built the program into a national powerhouse. 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A Team offers a fun and exciting opportunity to work in the 523 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.320 sports and entertainment industry, with flexible schedules that are perfect for those looking for 524 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.320 a part time job or a second income. Come be a part of a 525 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:27.280 winning team. The A Team apply online today at a team security dot net. 526 00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:34.920 Breaking down all the exes and olls. It's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salviz. 527 00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:39.280 This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, 528 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.800 welcome back to I on the Ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, 529 00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.320 He's Jay. You got Kevin with us for another fifteen this hour and 530 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.960 then we'll get to breaking news on the other side. But one of the 531 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:51.440 things that I thought was, oh, there are a lot of things that 532 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.599 were interesting. She's a former athlete, and I asked this question, and 533 00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:58.480 you know this, Jay all the time when I ask former athletes on how 534 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.639 do they compete? And she talked about wanting to be the GM, Right, 535 00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.039 that's what they do. I mean, you have to find things to 536 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.199 get your juices. There has to be a fire. You golf, you 537 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:14.760 play a little, you double a little wink wink on on sports betting. 538 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.159 You know that's kind of your competition. I played poker, poker. I 539 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:22.119 love I loved being the day to day beat writer because you compete. I 540 00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:24.559 compete against the star. Start competing against me. I love to. You 541 00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:28.480 know what I'm saying, we did you find you find ways to compete. 542 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:32.440 And this is how she's done it, being attorney, being very aggressive. 543 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.679 You know what I'm saying, right, No, and and and and that's 544 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:37.760 why she is where she is, okay, because she is a competitor. 545 00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:42.679 She takes on challenges. She talked about, you know, the you know 546 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.519 this challenge at Arizona being an opportunity. And when you approach things like that, 547 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:51.760 that's how you get to the jobs that you get to, and that's 548 00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:55.079 how you're successful at them because you accept those challenges and you take them head 549 00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.079 on instead of trying to find the easy way out. So the fact that 550 00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.000 she's doing that is is a big deal to Arizona. They need somebody like 551 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:08.840 that. Yeah, no question, And I think that President Robinson has chosen 552 00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:12.599 the right quession for that. And not to say that Dave didn't get a 553 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.679 chance to do that, but he just felt that there was a needed to 554 00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.320 be a move. Well, you can see you can see why. You 555 00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:24.199 can see why when Robin's doctor Robins says, we needed a different direction. 556 00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:29.719 When you talk to her and see her approach and what she's got on her 557 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:35.039 plate versus what Dave's sort of had on his plate all these years, you 558 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.679 understand that the day, okay, Dave was great for what he was being 559 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.760 asked to do. But now they they've gone into this period where they got 560 00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:45.679 this financial situation that's got to get fixed, and maybe Dave's not the guy 561 00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.840 to do that. You know, they need a person like like her. 562 00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.199 You know, we were talking off air that that you know, the folks 563 00:38:52.239 --> 00:39:00.719 that Michael Center are gonna have to be to use a rich rich They're gonna 564 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:02.920 have to be comfortable with being uncomfortable, because it's gonna get uncomfortable over that 565 00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.800 very much. So, uh and yeah, there's and it should it needs 566 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:09.400 to. Sure. Well we've been around long enough to know that. Yeah, 567 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:13.159 And look a lot of them know it too, right, And I 568 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:15.519 say them as like this species out there. But you know, the people 569 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:19.880 and maybe maybe a lot of a lot of the folks that machayl will will 570 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.239 have a will appreciate that. We say, okay, now, I know 571 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:29.599 that when I'm working hard and doing stuff and getting things done, that there's 572 00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:31.920 some appreciation, maybe even a reward for that. And you know, and 573 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.639 and the and the and the look the athletic program is is a really one 574 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:38.760 of the you know, it's a great program. It's a really good program 575 00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:44.519 for you know, uh, Division I athletics. It didn't get there because 576 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:49.360 there were a bunch of slackers throughout the years at McHale I gotta. I 577 00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.599 got a text from somebody who also talked to her today, uh, and 578 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.840 this is what they sent me. I get the sense that she is not 579 00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:00.639 afraid to tell hard truths and she won't suffer fools. So there has to 580 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:05.920 be a lot of nervous athletic department staffers there waiting for her decisions. Or 581 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.800 maybe there's a lot of athletic the department staffers are going I look forward finally, 582 00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.480 or yeah, I'm looking forward to yes, someone pushing us this way. 583 00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:15.920 I could think that again, there's so many of so many of the 584 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:20.679 people at Michael were athletes and hopefully you know they're saying, you know what, 585 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:22.320 I'm looking forward to having a person like that. Yeah, let's take 586 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.480 this call. Hi, you're on the air and on the ball. Hey 587 00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:30.079 you guys, this is Gabe. How's it going you guys, Gabe, 588 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:31.719 how are you? We're doing well? Oh you must be, you must 589 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:40.320 be critically go ahead, Sorry, I'm doing fine. I'm just kind of 590 00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:46.559 a little bit dumbfounded by why do the Arizona loose to a trash university's spoiled 591 00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:52.880 children team? Well, you you've been here enough this year alone of why 592 00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:58.000 they've done it four or five times to the same type of team. Yeah, 593 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:02.800 they didn't they sing. Their energy was not there they I mean clearly 594 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:07.199 they They beat U C. L A on Thursday and so they secure a 595 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:14.559 conference bed. But regardless, you should you should annihilate USC because they're only 596 00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:19.519 good at one single spot and that is not men's basketball. I'll let you 597 00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.960 guys figger that out. But anyway, yeah, whatever, alright, Well, 598 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:30.760 better they better play if you If Arizona plays against USC in the patrol 599 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:35.920 permit, they bear, put down the hammer and blow them out one hundred 600 00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:40.639 points because losing to a trash university of spoiled children. Nah, now that 601 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:45.960 is good in men's basketball or USC is the opposite? Are good? Their 602 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:52.320 human seaco matter bad? Well, Gabe, thank you as usual with your 603 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.800 commentary. We appreciate it. Thanks for listening to Gabe. We always think 604 00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.400 that the world of you. Thank you anytime bear down E was gonna Oka. 605 00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:04.039 So, Jay, let me ask you this. I was thinking this 606 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:08.880 when he was speaking. Do we know how good Arizona is? We know 607 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:12.960 how good they can be? Do we know how bad they are? We 608 00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.719 know how bad they can be. So we kind of know what we do. 609 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.320 We know both ends of it. And the thing is and and and 610 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:23.000 the problem is that it's a mysterious to which one is going to show up 611 00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:28.360 the problem? Kevin? Who doesn't have that problem? Kevin, Kevin, 612 00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.320 you've made the observation that I've said, a long time. What do you 613 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:35.880 think about the tournament and how it'll settle for them? I was saying, 614 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.199 it's really interesting as an Arizona fan to go through these kind of tournaments because 615 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:42.519 you almost get more confident in your in your team as the tournament goes on, 616 00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.320 which is kind of the inverse experience for most teams who face inferior team 617 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.199 in the first couple of rounds and they feel really confident about making it to 618 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.840 the third round. But once you get to the tougher time competition, excuse 619 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:52.920 me, it gets a little shaky. For the fans, they're like, 620 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:57.119 I don't know if you can beat the uncs the produced but when your Arizona 621 00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.760 are like, oh, the hardest thing we got is you know McNeice. 622 00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:06.360 So if we can get past McNee who knows the ceiling is the proof your 623 00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:08.599 observation is perfect, because that's just what's given. It was onto troubles right 624 00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.280 throughout the years. But let me say two years ago, uh, two 625 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.119 years ago. Sometimes, Jay, and you've seen this, sometimes they just 626 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:20.599 ran into a better team, Yes, Houston, who would have Houston was 627 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:22.599 better that day and if they played ten times, they might beat them six 628 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.960 out of the six and Houston team got to the final four. So there's 629 00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:29.719 no shame in losing to that team. Right, you happen to run into 630 00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.079 him in the sweet sixteen instead of the lead eight, but yeah, sure, 631 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.440 sure, and that happens. It's the other stuff that you think. 632 00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:37.039 The mcnique states, then you're thinking, well, this should be easy. 633 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:40.320 The problem is they think that. They think that, and it goes back 634 00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.559 to the statistic we brought up, like I don't know how many weeks ago 635 00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:47.360 about their record in big attendance games versus record in small attendance games. And 636 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.800 I know USC is like a historic school for various reasons, but that's not 637 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:53.159 a very big game. I know it's the last game of the pack twell 638 00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:57.639 regular season, but they just won the regular season title, so yeah, 639 00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.920 I don't know, Well they get the games wise, the bigger, the 640 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:06.679 better the team is. Yeah. No, I again, it nothing changed 641 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:12.559 Saturday. Initially it did for me, but don upon further reviews, then 642 00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.079 upon further reviews, like we already knew this about this team, and and 643 00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:21.440 nothing's changed. Here here's you know, talking to all all the things that 644 00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:25.639 you run through your brain. But look, you know, let Arizona fans 645 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:30.360 feel a little easier by the fact that to this day, Tommy Lloyd still 646 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.320 hasn't lost two games in a row. So there you go. You know, 647 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.800 I know people are worried about USC coming out of you know, come 648 00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:39.239 playing Arizona playing USC in the that first game, because they're they're they're in 649 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:43.719 that bracket that they take. They're playing the winner of Washington US and people 650 00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.360 saying, God, here comes the us See again, just like Stanford, 651 00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.400 you know in past years and whatnot. So there was Alas a five to 652 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:53.440 eight favorite two in the tournament. Uh, this week, I might I'll 653 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:58.719 say they'll win it. You us C go ahead, It's take this call 654 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:01.199 high. You're on there and on the ball. Yeah. Jay, First 655 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:06.519 of all, you did a great job in calling the Alabama Tennessee game. 656 00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:13.760 What do you say, Well, no, last week you called it on 657 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:16.960 the air. You said he was going to Alabama or Kentucky. Excuse me, 658 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:25.039 Kentucky was good Tennessee. Anyway, long, I'll get to the point 659 00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:34.760 number one, nil and these transfer portals, you have no consistency of leadership 660 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:38.280 on the floor. They're a great team to get all the potential in the 661 00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:44.519 world, but there hasn't been anybody that when you have guys that have played 662 00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:50.920 together two or three years, that real floor leader that can get in their 663 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:55.679 grill and not always be the coach. And I think that hurts a lot 664 00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:02.239 of teams, not just there as a right rick. So you've you've watched 665 00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:07.079 enough games to know years in fact, So who have they had in the 666 00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.119 past that was that guy and that got him far? There's only been two 667 00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:15.840 or three in in my time. I mean that was Pre and I l 668 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:22.480 and that's Pre and I L. Right, look at Miles Simon, Okay, 669 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:27.880 I mean Miles was a Flora leader. Jefferson was a leader. No, 670 00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:30.360 no, no, I'll give you. I'll give you the three that 671 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:35.760 I have. Richard was not in fact, he was more Jason Gardner. 672 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:40.079 But it's Miles who You're correct, TJ. McConnell, right, and and 673 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:45.199 Johnson Nick Johnson, those three in the last fifteen years, I would say. 674 00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:51.400 Other than that, no, well we haven't had a Judd Burchelar. 675 00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.840 We haven't had that mentality where the kids have played together long enough more than 676 00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.760 you. That's a really good point. Yeah, no, that's a really 677 00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:01.719 good flying Who are gonna go to down? You don't, right, because 678 00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:06.599 well, the last the last how many years, they're Arizona's best players have 679 00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.519 been guys who have come in here for a year. You know, Caleb 680 00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:13.360 Love, you know, you had Caleb Love that you know for for a 681 00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.480 year, you had uh Courtney or Amy for a year, you had uh 682 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:21.639 dere Aiden for a year, a bunch of these guys who commit, you 683 00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:30.480 know, the the whole uh Josh Josh, uh Josh Green uh uh you 684 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:34.960 know uh uh Nico Mannion for a year, And you're right, they don't 685 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.360 get to grow and get whatever cohesiveness or whatever you want to call it, 686 00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:42.480 you know, to have guys like that who you are seeing as floor leaders. 687 00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:45.000 To your point, Rick, that's that's that's exactly it. I think 688 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.039 it's pre n I l but to your point, it's true. Yeah. 689 00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:52.519 And here's the other quick thing. I think this is where coach should go 690 00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:57.039 to Ballow and say, listen, you are you've been here now two years. 691 00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.320 You need to grab these guys by their shirt sleeve and shake the hell 692 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:06.920 out of him so that he coaching skills and Ballow, you are the leader 693 00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.719 out there. You need to take ownership of this floor. And I think 694 00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:15.480 that Baba would do that if coach would put that kind of pressure on top 695 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:16.800 of them. So, okay, Rick, thank you for calling. We'll 696 00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:21.480 talk about that in second Thank you, Rick, Okay, good day. 697 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:23.360 I think in theory, and hear me out, Jay, in theory, 698 00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:28.079 I think that's okay. But we are already thirty some games into the season. 699 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.639 How how can you doesn't make the leader when you have three weeks. 700 00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.719 Maybe they're supposed they're supposed to be here by now exactly, And I feel 701 00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:38.039 like kind of Boswell could be that, but he went through that space in 702 00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:42.599 the middle of the season where very much some of that might have And so 703 00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:45.840 people, I think they're looking to Caleb Love for that. Yeah when you 704 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.440 go one for ten, Yeah, and you know whatever, for whatever reason, 705 00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.840 he played his worst game of the year. Maybe Keishah Johnson is a 706 00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:57.719 guy more maybe more than Ballow because I think heshad Johnson can be more vocal, 707 00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.880 he can scare the crap out of guy and speak authority. Two have 708 00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.920 been to hire, right, But again, these they're all you know, 709 00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:08.119 Caleb and Keishat are both one year guys. But Jay, you're already, 710 00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:10.679 like I say, thirty seven games into this, all of a sudden, 711 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:15.320 you can't take charge when when what's behind you, the seasons already behind you. 712 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:17.079 You know, wh where's Pally Larson on this? On the on the 713 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:21.119 leader meter? Right? So let me tell you what I was thinking over 714 00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.119 the weekend. Just to spite you, they played their ninety seven throwbacks. 715 00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:29.440 They look pretty good. Did they play well? And two you have two 716 00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:31.400 final four guys that have been there. What they all happened to that? 717 00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.880 You know what, you just need an e racist game from here from all 718 00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:37.639 of that. Okay, you just need an eracist game from all of that. 719 00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:43.599 It's like, you know, it's the next thing. They did look 720 00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.840 good in those things, look good good at their bud Cat But you know 721 00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:51.199 a kid, Yeah, you're talking about Arizona. Okay, you're talking about 722 00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.719 Arizona not playing well. Guess what the other team wants to beat the crap 723 00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:57.559 out of you. And they played very well. And look again, ye 724 00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.599 Alice and and Isaiah call here get to play against Arizona. This was their 725 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:05.599 one shot at Arizona and they and they came out and played well. And 726 00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:09.159 and then as a tournament to your point, Kevin, it's the McNeese states 727 00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:12.840 the first time at you guys, we're going to show that we can play 728 00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.039 the game too. Yeah, and they have. There were so many things 729 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:22.639 in play on Saturday, and they all came to fruition and so and it 730 00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.119 added up to a So let me ask you, we have too many stuff. 731 00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.519 So you and you already have said that you put some money on the 732 00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.719 money line easy. What were you thinking? What were you thinking? Because 733 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:35.440 because this Vegas loves these games, because it's an obvious win. I think, 734 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.760 what was the thinking during the games? No, no, no, 735 00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.400 what were you thinking before you made the bet? I just I thought even 736 00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:45.280 if they came out flat, that they would win. It was a no 737 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:46.840 brainer. And that's and that's how, that's why, that's why I just 738 00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.400 that's why it was just just win. I didn't I didn't like the line. 739 00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:54.119 I wasn't gonna bet the line. Arizona. You know, this is 740 00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:59.320 not a two foot pot, but not a twelve foot pot. Imagine if 741 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.440 you're the player thinking this, because guess what they're thinking this too, to 742 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:06.639 show up, we'll play. We beat them already by a bunch, Yeah, 743 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:08.880 show up. It doesn't work that way, No, it doesn't. 744 00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:13.119 It just doesn't. It doesn't. And then that's that was my thinking, 745 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:16.000 that this was a you know, just a game that even with the celebrate 746 00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:19.639 that Arizona was good enough that even on a bad day, they could beat 747 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.960 this team. And Vegas loves you guys, yeah, because no, no, 748 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:28.199 no don't they because they say it's it's gotta not smart money. It's 749 00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:31.280 it's the shark's money or whatever they call it. The smart money. Guys, 750 00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:35.760 No, there's no such thing. Some people always say you're supposed to 751 00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:37.519 bet the spot and not the line, some people the whole thing. But 752 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:42.519 that's to your point as well. Yeah, m but it happens more than 753 00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.519 you know, or we know, just until you get until you're affected. 754 00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:47.800 You say, what the hell was I thinking this? You would think the 755 00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.639 team and more consistency. Though I know your thing is no, momentum doesn't 756 00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:53.880 really exist, but consistency is a real thing that does being very much so, 757 00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.840 you would think that they want those habits of just doing what you're supposed 758 00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.960 to do, game in, game out, And that's weird psychology things. 759 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.840 I mean, more so than losing the US. Consistency is a good word 760 00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.880 because that does exist. Yeah. Yeah, and this team, and that's 761 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:08.079 what people are looking for, and then when they don't see it, they 762 00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:14.760 lose their minds. Even though they had won eleven out of twelve, ten 763 00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.119 of eleven, I think, yeah, only to Washington State. They still 764 00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:20.880 wont ten out of twelve. That's still pretty good. Yeah, But the 765 00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:23.119 way they want to exactly again. And then when you mix in that, 766 00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:29.440 the fact that three pack twelve lots three worst teams in the league should scare 767 00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:31.599 you. Of course it does. And maybe it scares the players enough to 768 00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:36.039 say, okay, no more. How many times? How many listens learn 769 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.360 maybe? And you put you with their kids? Man, it takes a 770 00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:43.679 lot of lessons to learn. If you drink all the milk and you put 771 00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:46.239 it back in the refrigerator, throw it away. Don't put it back in 772 00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:50.000 the refrigerator. Don't drink out of the cart either. All right, let's 773 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.559 take our break. We're gonna come back breaking news. A lot of stuff 774 00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.800 going on in the NFL today, So Kevin will be right back with that.