1 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,199 Whilst up everybody this is that's not matter. I'm welcome to hyper Blast, 2 00:00:29,239 --> 00:00:32,560 where we bashed through the week's news in rock and heavy metal. Last week 3 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,320 was our enormous Metallica seventy two Seasons review. Sorry about that. Thank you 4 00:00:37,359 --> 00:00:41,240 for joining us longer than the album, through it and nerding out all things 5 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,840 Metallica with us. This week is quicker and breezier. My name is pern 6 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,719 Hash, Sam dick Nor and Elliott Paisley. I hear Elliot is for the 7 00:00:47,799 --> 00:00:50,240 first time, I think, during the duration of us recording this podcast together 8 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,039 wearing an actual band T shirt. Yeah, first time. I've kind of 9 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:56,119 realised what this podcast is about. I've thought bird dress for the occasion. 10 00:00:56,479 --> 00:00:59,799 Yeah, it's an exhumed T shirt. If anyone else is wondering, I 11 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:03,560 was. We've been watching Ed Gambel's run on Pointless at the moment, and 12 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,879 the episode we watched earlier today he mentioned the band of Cobalt on BBC one, 13 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:11,840 which I thought was absolutely incredible. There hasn't been some niche pulls there. 14 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,959 They've had like a new every British heavy metal question the other week and 15 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,879 it was like Cloven Hoof were like a point that's a that's a deep pull 16 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,079 right there. But Cobalt representation on the BBC. I'm here fully for myself 17 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,400 and Sam are fresh off of the album Roulette episode we did but James McBain 18 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:30,959 from Hell Ripper that went wide, So I know a bunch of you who 19 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,359 listened to that. But that was a pleasure to do. Yeah, that 20 00:01:34,439 --> 00:01:36,840 was that was really good, like really cool dude to sort of chatman, 21 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,799 get the kind of unlikely stories of how these albums that are You're not one 22 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,439 you'd expect have like influenced Tell Ripper across all of these records were, particularly 23 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,879 the New one. Yeah, good bloke, some wicked you know, picked 24 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,079 some wicked albums, even the ones who individually we may have had you know, 25 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,200 ropey relationships with or whatever from bands. But the other marvelous thing that 26 00:01:56,239 --> 00:02:00,840 happened last week is Sam, you and I were both at Paramore's UK arena 27 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,760 run in support of This is Why, the first time that Paramour have been 28 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,759 to the UK in five years. The arena tour for Last After Laughter was 29 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,800 my first time seeing Paramour, So I've seen them just two trots, two 30 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,159 tours on the trot here, Sam had you not seen them for longer than 31 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:21,560 that? Twenty fourteen was the last time I saw them, Well, that 32 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,840 was only half a set. I caught the second half their set headline co 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,280 headlining Reading festival that year, right, yeah, so very very good to 34 00:02:28,719 --> 00:02:31,199 join them back at this point again, you know, particularly at this point 35 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,039 when I am you know, at that point was your my kind of strained 36 00:02:35,159 --> 00:02:38,120 years of Paramore. So this was me back fully one. Yeah, Well, 37 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,840 when we recorded that Metallic episode last week, I had already been to 38 00:02:40,879 --> 00:02:43,960 my day. We're waiting for Sam to get to theirs, and off camera, 39 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,520 I was like, Sam, stunning. I've seen Paramour like twice now, 40 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,680 I guess you know, never saw them and they're older, you know, 41 00:02:50,759 --> 00:02:53,159 punkier warped tour days or whatever. But two touring cycles in a row. 42 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,800 Here, why don't we talk more about Paramore being one of the best 43 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,719 live fans in the world. So this is the thing, is the two 44 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,879 Like first time I saw them was twenty ten when they were in that sort 45 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:07,080 of punky walked to mode and they were all on stage and they hated each 46 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:12,719 other and it was rubbish liked though, And nowadays I was watching was kind 47 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:16,159 of like god, this is unrecognizable as the band I saw back then, 48 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:23,560 because my fucking god, they were incredible, like the free piece and then 49 00:03:23,719 --> 00:03:28,000 the backing band they've got filling them out, such a good chemistal stage sound 50 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,840 immaculate. The star power that comes off of Haley Williams. I don't know 51 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:35,960 why we don't talk to her as one of that talk about her as like 52 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 one of the greatest kind of like leads of a band at this point, 53 00:03:38,039 --> 00:03:42,800 because she is like as sort of a big head for live show. She's 54 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,000 got the star power to match like legend I mean for like big rock bands, 55 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,159 I mean pop bands even like touring on that level who come through like 56 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:53,479 an arena show or anything. They've got to be one of the very best 57 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:54,879 in the world. And they've they've been on that level for like a decoe 58 00:03:54,879 --> 00:03:59,680 plus, right, And it's and it's not down to production or anything. 59 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,759 Even I do think Paramol like they've got some cool looking stuff on the stage 60 00:04:01,759 --> 00:04:06,840 and everything, but it's just in terms of song power, musical performances and 61 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:11,840 then a real, you know, kind of emotional connection with the fan base 62 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:15,000 that you aren't guaranteed at a show like that of that size. I found 63 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,319 it to be almost overwhelming, Like they were absolutely phenomenally good last week, 64 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:23,759 just the more of the most joyous sets I've seen that. I said, 65 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,079 like the way she's talking to the crowd and kind of like talking to people. 66 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:30,480 She's picking out someone in the audience to just kind of share a moment 67 00:04:30,519 --> 00:04:34,959 with, and it feels genuine. It doesn't feel like I'm doing my rehearsed 68 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 bit here where I'm going to talk to this person in the crowd. It's 69 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:41,360 kind of like off the cuff from marks and things like that. It's so 70 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,319 real with her. Yeah, I mean a block Party first as the main 71 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,360 support. I thought that was obviously a very apt choice with the sound of 72 00:04:46,399 --> 00:04:50,480 the new album. They're not a band I know especially have a connection to 73 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,639 or anything, but I did enjoy the opportunity to get to see them on 74 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,800 this particular again appropriate album cycle. I really liked block Party in my pre 75 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,920 Grebo days of like two thousand and six, so and I've not never seen 76 00:05:02,959 --> 00:05:05,360 them, so I was like very each of to the sort of opportunity to 77 00:05:05,399 --> 00:05:09,519 see them, Like watching them play Helicopters Live, which is known just like 78 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,800 Got Guitar Hero Free Anthem, like was was awesome. I but yeah, 79 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:16,240 really good choice to support and I enjoyed the set. Yeah, I swear 80 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,959 to god though Paramour came out and Haley was immediately two stepping, like first 81 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,839 thing she did, just running out there like that, and it was it 82 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:28,000 was really special because again, the last time I saw them on the After 83 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:30,199 Laughter tour, it felt like saying the world's best pop band. Was all 84 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,959 of thres going to be no new wavy tunes and stuff in there. They're 85 00:05:32,959 --> 00:05:35,800 still doing that thing where during the last chorus of hard Time she mixes in 86 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:40,319 the chorus of heart Glass by Blundie and they do a bunch of that and 87 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,000 it's just the coolest thinking during the earlier portions, I was like, man, 88 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,279 seeing Paramour now was like our equivalent of seeing like Peak of Powers Blondie 89 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,120 or something for that kind of like swagger and hit power and everything forgetting that 90 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,920 she was about to do that. But this, like even beyond that, 91 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:58,480 it felt so much more multi faceted as well, because like opening with with 92 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,360 you first, when it comes to the the newest stuff, like really unorthodox 93 00:06:01,439 --> 00:06:03,560 cool choice. You know, it's not the opener on the album. It's 94 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,399 not a single, not even top half on the record for me really, 95 00:06:06,439 --> 00:06:10,279 but it's got energy to spare and they're like, oh my god, the 96 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:14,800 News fucking yeah, well that's hit and those guitars come in, Like again, 97 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,399 the News is probably my favorite track off the record, just for that, 98 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,000 like it's brilliant and you know, jagged edge with a just all like 99 00:06:20,399 --> 00:06:25,519 that all time of chorus coming to that was amazing. And then just casually 100 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,439 going and here's that's what you get third and the first song, and they 101 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,800 did that's what you get beforehand in they mixed up the order, but that's 102 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:36,240 into playing god. But when you just said that as your opening run, 103 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,720 you kind of just the sort of the eruption from the crowd and that's what 104 00:06:40,879 --> 00:06:44,000 you get came in and then it was just like we were in seating people 105 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,920 weren't. No one was sitting. Everyone was on their feet. Yeah, 106 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,879 even like way up in, like I said about the chemistry that you can 107 00:06:49,879 --> 00:06:51,839 see in the players when you're like running out of time and that kind of 108 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,800 slippery group or something. I mean, I was still would have been down 109 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,759 for more, like you know, figure eight or whatever. I would have 110 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,000 liked to see, but that you also have these songs that feel actually fucking 111 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:06,120 timeless, Like ain't it fun? Is like magical as is you know, 112 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,199 still into you even down to you know, like last Hope, and when 113 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,199 you get that, it's just a spark, but it's enough, like again 114 00:07:13,279 --> 00:07:17,439 like unbelievably life affirming, and like when I listened to Riot as an album, 115 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:21,199 it's great, but I do feel like it's been kind of surpassed musically 116 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:27,519 by most of what followed. But then you see those singles live and it's 117 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,360 like, oh, yeah, that's why those songs are what they are, 118 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:31,839 because, like I said, that's what they get. You get earlier on 119 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,920 is like the loudest sing along I've heard in a long time. And then 120 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:42,360 Misery Business, which I guess was like dropped out and then returned completely in 121 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,879 the time between this and the last UK tour because they play as well. 122 00:07:45,959 --> 00:07:50,680 But the energy in the air when they play that is like actually unparalleled, 123 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:56,839 like you totally take it for granted, but then it fucking flies. And 124 00:07:56,879 --> 00:07:59,759 then they do they do that thing where you know, they bring up fans 125 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:01,639 from the crowd, They pick a few people to come up on stage and 126 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,079 sing the song with him, and it's one of those things that's like for 127 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,120 so many bands that would be really fucking nap, you know, like when 128 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:11,800 Metallica had like the wall of people standing behind them at like Last Mirror ever, 129 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,439 that was it's rubbish. But yeah, Paramore doing that, it so 130 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,120 becomes such a moment and like, do you know that band Penis spelled Pens. 131 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:22,279 I've heard of them. I'm not familiar, right, I'm sure I've 132 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:24,600 seen them like a two thousand Trees or something like again, like an indie 133 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,839 punk band thing. One of the people she brought from the crowd was the 134 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:31,559 singer from Penis, and it's like become a thing where they've like you spent 135 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,799 the next two weeks after the show being interviewed about what was it like being 136 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:39,080 the stage with Paramore, But like it was so so joyous and just so 137 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:46,799 like pure in it just completely an ironically, unashamedly this is just amazing. 138 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:50,399 Yeah, I think that when like, but even before she's picked out those 139 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,200 fans, it's like, just like, this is one of the best pop 140 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,320 punk songs ever. It is insane that people tried to shame Hayley Williamson's never 141 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,000 playing it again. She did like a whole speech about reclaiming things like on 142 00:09:03,039 --> 00:09:05,080 this tour and what that means, and then like we're claiming the big songs. 143 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,440 But then I bring those fans on for whether the sort of the bridge 144 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,919 of the guitar solo and when the guitars and they're all doing like dancing and 145 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:15,840 two stepping across the stage. Hailey's full on two stepping around the stage to 146 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:20,919 that guitar solough and everyone and it just it's so genuine and again like no 147 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:24,320 one's kind of like being like happy about that, and everyone's sort of celebrating 148 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,399 that these fans get to do it. No one kind of like it should 149 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:31,320 have been me in like yeah, when you're just getting just a timeless song 150 00:09:31,399 --> 00:09:33,840 like Misery Business with that energy, it is such a good moment. I 151 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:35,720 don't know if that was my favorite moment in the set to be honest, 152 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:39,240 though, Like there's so I mean again that that was like the most joyous 153 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:43,639 moment. But elsewhere, like the other side of the set list was like 154 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,679 when you're getting stuff like Decode, which I'm presuming for you as well as 155 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,039 like this song through all the Vampires out there, the little Squirl I letter 156 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,759 When Decode started and I was like, oh my god, yes, yeah, 157 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,159 last the last tour we got, I caught myself, so it was 158 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:01,360 good to get like the other the side of you know, the Twilight soundtrack, 159 00:10:01,399 --> 00:10:05,480 but like, wow, it fucking takes off. And then particularly for 160 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,519 me as well, all I wanted like one of my favorite Paramore tracks and 161 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:13,200 they only gave it its live debut, uh when young like last year, 162 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,720 didn't they um? And like the grace and the aura during that song and 163 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,080 how they carry themselves during it is it is amazing. And then you're going 164 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,559 further into like you know, like even like solo stuff like Crystal Clear from 165 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,240 the Petals Ferrama record, which like I'd kind of forgotten about that song. 166 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:28,320 It wasn't one of the ones that really like you know, stayed in my 167 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,360 head from the album, but like I really really and I really liked both 168 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,519 of those Hay william Sildo records, but like, yeah, it was a 169 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:39,039 really lovely addition, like it sounded greatly. Yeah, yeah, really really 170 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,600 lovely. Yeah. And I think again like doing this song before, it 171 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,159 wasn't like I was like it was the half Noise cover they did, which 172 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:50,159 I'm like, bug, I'm like, yeah, I don't mind them giving 173 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,519 That's what I'm saying. He's just so charismatic. Yeah, if you're gonna 174 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,799 let how do you do a solo track like again? And it feels it 175 00:10:56,879 --> 00:11:00,000 just felt kind of a nicement to be like, you know, we're acknowledged 176 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,279 what Zach is going to have done in the time out open the band and 177 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:05,320 all that, and and it's just a really fun kind of like he gets 178 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,919 to come to the fund and his moment. I was like, yeah, 179 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,879 no, that that's totally fine art like it's least a song on the setlist, 180 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:13,919 but still awesome. Yeah. I mean the more delicate side of the 181 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:18,960 setlist really worked, where like we got um Misguided Ghosts in Manchester in that 182 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,919 kind of slot where they've been like swapping out the acoustic songs and stuff. 183 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,879 I think it's like the first time in the UK they've played that song since 184 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:28,679 like that tour when it came out, and it was great, and you 185 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,240 know, like um Liar and Crave from the new album both sounded amazing, 186 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,159 Yeah, really good as like a set closer, and then like even bringing 187 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,840 back the only exception, like honestly, no matter what you might think about 188 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,919 any of these tracks in their original forms, just being immersed in the atmosphere 189 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:50,000 of like paramore fans loving these songs. It just all works. Yeah, 190 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,360 I joded my system for him, and I was like, watch if they 191 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,519 dropped the only exception, I will sing every word even though songs, and 192 00:11:56,519 --> 00:12:01,039 I was like, shocker, I did and it was amazing. Yeah. 193 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,320 And there's the thing with as well, with like musicians who they always say 194 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,840 like, yeah, we feed off the audience's energy or whatever, but says 195 00:12:07,919 --> 00:12:09,440 a lot of them where you can imagine as soon as they're off stage, 196 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,720 it's like they've done a job and you know their mind changes in a different 197 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,879 way and it's not necessarily that dramatic and experience or whatever for them. The 198 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:20,200 atmosphere and the energy in there's room like like you know, the misery business 199 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,840 fans sing along or whatever, you can actually imagine like haleywill he was walking 200 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:26,080 off that stage and like she has to be on cloud nine, like coming 201 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,879 off of that, like it's so fucking intense, Like aside from a select 202 00:12:30,919 --> 00:12:33,320 couple that I've got my eye on, of course, I will be shocked 203 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,600 if I see many shows better than that this year, Like they're amazing. 204 00:12:35,039 --> 00:12:39,279 It's currently like top of the list. There's a couple yeah, coming up 205 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:41,399 that that could top it, But it was after, like I say, 206 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:46,039 some ropey paramount shows like Just Fly Unfortunately socustances of these. It was nice 207 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,600 kind of see them and it be that good. Yeah, happily one of 208 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:54,360 the few live bands who can live up to that did actually play here a 209 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:56,480 few days after a Cannibal Corps. Of course, I mention this a little 210 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:58,759 when we were talking with James from from hell Rip, because he picked the 211 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:01,240 Can Cups album and I think he said that he'd see them as well, 212 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,120 but like, fuck, also been five years since they've been here. What 213 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,440 an absolute killing machine like from the first notes of Scourge of Iron through to 214 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,879 the last notes of Hammer Smashed Face, just unstoppable, all of the great 215 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:16,080 corpse grinder stage bits where he goes to someone in the crowd is like I've 216 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,320 got a gift for you in my pocket, nothing and you know you want 217 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,879 more songs After careful consideration, it's still the last song, all the shit 218 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,720 like that. Weirdly, I feel like I used my voice more during this 219 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,879 than Paramour. You kind of the firing up the chainsaw killer become or you 220 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:35,519 know, and by the end of the Night and you're hitting Devoured by Vermin 221 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,320 and you would have totally swept up in that you bufferd Rabbit Death help up 222 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,919 by that. It's fully going for a total career spanning setlist where almost every 223 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,679 album is covered, keeping most of the song choices identical, but you know, 224 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,039 mixing up a couple of the songs where they had no mix them Suffer 225 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:50,360 This Time, which is the big one to drop out, but they filled 226 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,559 it in with the Time to Kill Us Now and Death Walking Terror from that 227 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:56,919 record. Otherwise pretty much all the staples, but seeing those new violets and 228 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,080 imagined songs as well for the first time, like you main Harvest and Condemnation, 229 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:07,080 Contagion Routan ripping it out, so heavy news, let's get into it. 230 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,840 A metal core selection of tracks really is what we have to begin with, 231 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,840 and we're going to start with. It's always the way where we do 232 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,960 a band special and not too long after we can rely on those bands to 233 00:14:18,159 --> 00:14:22,799 give us something new. Bleeding Through have released a new single called Wartime. 234 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:28,559 It's the follow up I guess to the I think maybe three track EP that 235 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,000 they dropped last year, which was called Rage. The main single from that 236 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,159 Rage was when they've been playing live and so on, which I thought was 237 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:39,960 not Love Will Kill all quality but still pretty good. Sadly still no album 238 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,000 announcement with this was what I was like, really pulling for when we did 239 00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:48,960 that special and everything, but Rage more the kind of hardcore end of Bleeding 240 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:54,320 Through. This fades in with a melodic death metal lead that sounds so much 241 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,600 like at the Gates and I love that. Yeah, this is my favorite 242 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:01,200 of the recent run of Bleeding Through tracks. I think this is fucking awesome. 243 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,720 I think this was cool. I mean, for me, the Bleeding 244 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,440 Through Special really was a revelation. I don't think it would be an exaggeration 245 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,360 to call it that. I think this song it sounds great, like you 246 00:15:11,399 --> 00:15:16,480 know, scratches your belly, but there's something slightly demo wish about it. 247 00:15:16,559 --> 00:15:18,639 But I couldn't quite escape. I don't know if it's a different sort of 248 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:20,679 production style they're going for, if it's a deliberate thing, but um, 249 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,720 I it's it's a strange move from them sort this far in, especially with 250 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:28,720 the lovel Killer, which had a pretty you know, blockbuster sound quality to 251 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:31,120 it. Yeah, I agree with you, and I felt that way about 252 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,159 the EP as well, and particularly the main point where it stands out to 253 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:41,000 me is kind of the clean vocal like processing and stuff like that. And 254 00:15:41,039 --> 00:15:45,039 I don't know why the melodic vocals sound so much thinner than they did on 255 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,720 Love Will Kill or because I presume they're still working with Nick Kenny they have 256 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:50,519 been for a while. But I agree with you, and hopefully it's something 257 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:52,039 that we'll be sorted out on an album with these are things that are sort 258 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,639 of slightly more quickly put out there in that regard. That would be my 259 00:15:56,679 --> 00:16:00,200 hope, because I prefer my bleeding through vocals to have a bit more of 260 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:06,159 you know, Brandon kind of fully out there rather than sort of obscure behind 261 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,360 all this stuff that's going on here. But again, just the kind of 262 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,240 we've had again a slightly more metal core bleeding through song, here's more of 263 00:16:12,279 --> 00:16:17,279 a just a full on metal, you know, melodic version. It's got 264 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:18,799 a big hard breakdown like the mosh part in this does go off. I 265 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:22,000 was one of the vocals if they kind of it kind of felt like they're 266 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,440 going for a bit more of like the early sound on the Claims with that, 267 00:16:25,799 --> 00:16:26,639 with the production on it, I don't know if that's what they're sort 268 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:30,120 of aiming for or if it's just a weird production. So I didn't mind 269 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,320 that too much. I was kind of like cuiping the ias, bleeding through, 270 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:37,480 just riffing, really hard hitting, like the big kind of mosh care 271 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:40,960 bit and making me want to sing a fist. I really like this. 272 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,879 Yeah, I guess my only thing now is, like I said, I 273 00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:45,399 was hoping for, you know, the next thing we got after Rage to 274 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,799 be an album announcement. We don't have that, So I don't know whether 275 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,799 that means maybe we will get an album and this will be on it as 276 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,919 one of those sort of like very early singles, or whether we are in 277 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,320 a kind of like just dropping one off singles and EPs and stuff sort of 278 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,080 era for them at the moment, which again I would I would prefer to 279 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,960 get a proper follow up to Level Kill or at some point soon, but 280 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:08,079 you know, hard to predict what they're doing at the moment. Baretooth. 281 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,039 I've also released a new song which is called Sunshine, you know, coming 282 00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:15,480 off the back of their Wembley Arena show they did. I think from the 283 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:18,640 title here, it's evidently meant to be like Hey, let's do a fun 284 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,079 one type of thing. It's not a you know, all my demons are 285 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:26,519 oppressing me kind of beartooth song. It's a very jolly one. The beginning 286 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:30,000 where he's doing this kind of you know, isolated screen vocal, I find 287 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:34,480 it unpleasant. And then it gets going for about twenty seconds and then all 288 00:17:34,519 --> 00:17:40,519 the fucking sudden it stops for the acoustic guitar and a pop pook and I'm 289 00:17:40,519 --> 00:17:45,279 not having that. That's disgusted. They between this and Riptide, they're clearly 290 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,519 leaning on a slightly a popular edge. I don't mind the kind of like 291 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:51,960 isolated vocal bit like the start. They've done that a few times. It's 292 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,240 all the best time they've done it here, but it's kind of a bear 293 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:59,400 tooth thing. And Yeah, this song is really confusing me because when it 294 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,759 goes hard like this is like Beads. You've ad some of their sort of 295 00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:07,680 hardest sounding, but that chorus and it's so jarring when it comes in, 296 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,680 it just kind of stops dead and goes into it. It feels that they're 297 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,640 going for a day to Remember sort of thing at the moment of like really 298 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,960 leaning into the pop side on the choruses and then having the sort of the 299 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,359 metalcal bits. I don't think it entirely works for them, Like it's a 300 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,799 weird sound that I just isn't jelling for me. The break done this though, 301 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,440 then goes like really really hard and aggressive, and it's just kind of 302 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:37,000 like what are we going for here? Like it's just like if they kind 303 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,400 of jelled the pop into the song more, I wouldn't mind, but it's 304 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,960 so it's such a like and now we're stopping and here's the act and the 305 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,480 pop chorus just kind of like no transition to it to make it seemles. 306 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:51,279 It's so jarring. It feels like almost like a joke of like what if 307 00:18:51,319 --> 00:18:53,680 we had super sunny, you know, greatest thing we've ever done, and 308 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,640 then crazy heavy yeah, kind of you know, back and forth. But 309 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,359 it doesn't feel organic in that at all. It feels I mean, I've 310 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,359 always had a problem with bear Tooth sounding too fucking computerized, but like when 311 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,480 you've got those two things slapped next to each other as jarringly transitioning to them 312 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:08,319 as you're saying, like, it's even more apparent. Yeah, no, 313 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,279 that I would totally agree. I've defended Beartooth, But like with these last 314 00:19:12,279 --> 00:19:17,079 couple of songs, it just feels like I'm not feeling the direction they're going 315 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,559 in. This is the first time all year that I've started thinking about the 316 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:29,079 awards a few months early, fucking shortlist playlist. Well, because last time 317 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,759 when we did it, I was annoyed that I didn't have that much to 318 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:33,920 choose song because I was I wasn't keeping track all year. So I thought, 319 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,359 well, this year, I'm gonna starting now. I'm going to start 320 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,920 a document. I've written one thing down and its worst song of the year, 321 00:19:40,519 --> 00:19:44,519 Baretooth Sunshine. Because this is I've got a few others already just in 322 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:47,480 case. This isn't necessarily the early front runner, but I put it in. 323 00:19:47,559 --> 00:19:52,079 This is indefensively. I don't really like Baartooth anyway, but I can 324 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,079 I feel like I can tell when it's high quality versions of what they do. 325 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,279 Thenneve Me is the first time I would actually say a legitimately enjoyed. 326 00:19:57,319 --> 00:20:02,720 Beartooth was the last album that we did when they started to sort out some 327 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,319 of the problems I've had with them, and then they've gone so far in 328 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,480 the other director again, Well, the verses are like the borderline unlistenable, 329 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:11,920 like Caleb is squeaking and peeking all over the place, and the verse is 330 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:18,240 not even one percent conducive to the chorus, which sounds like sappy sort of 331 00:20:18,319 --> 00:20:22,920 boyfriend country and that gives way to an eye roll in juicing breakdown and I 332 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,279 wrote down A Day to Remember as well, and that was something I heard. 333 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:29,920 But it's not even homesick or what separates me from you. It's a 334 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:34,640 B side from You're Welcome with a less vocalist. I want to go that 335 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,480 hard. I think You're Welcome is still like the low point for this, 336 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:41,480 but is is on that level, It's not far off, It's it's not 337 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:45,319 good like like again, I kind of was like getting a good world back 338 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:48,000 from bed the back of that Wembley show and now I'm just like, you 339 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:52,160 make it hard sometimes that's shameful. Yeah, hate that more like it. 340 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,799 Vexed have announced their second album, Negative Energy, is coming on the twenty 341 00:20:56,799 --> 00:21:00,519 third of June, and they've released the leading from that called a tie Fetish. 342 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,680 Vexed UK band, you know heavy metalcore band put our fairly well liked 343 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:07,640 daby that we reviewed a couple of years ago, did feel like it's sort 344 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,240 of got swallowed up again not all that long after. So it's good to 345 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:14,640 see them back. And I hope they you know, can um you know 346 00:21:14,759 --> 00:21:17,200 this brings good things for them. Um, it's got almost like reminded me 347 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,240 of the fucking the Woman at the start, you know that anti fetish reminded 348 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,200 me of like nice party songs and stuff like that. That's a real throwback. 349 00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:26,119 But um, big metal core, you know, riff guitar tone, 350 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,480 but mate, bring on all the fucking squee squeet noises like it. Actually, 351 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,279 all of the weird bends and stuff in this makes it. Actually it's 352 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,720 catchier and groovier for having them. It's like, you know, let's do 353 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:41,720 car bomb or whatever. But for metalcore kids. Yeah, no, I've 354 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:44,960 kind of got that from veg Star, Like I dug that album and I 355 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:47,400 was gonna hope said they good from it, and they kind of like not 356 00:21:47,559 --> 00:21:49,519 chasing we've got too much, but just made it a little bit more like 357 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,480 up the weirdest fact for a little bit and but just still kept it super 358 00:21:53,559 --> 00:21:59,680 obnoxious and ignorant, just like full on just low end, like kick your 359 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,359 teeth in metal core. But I think like there were a cool band Vexed, 360 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,519 and I'm excited for them to kind of like step into a bit of 361 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:08,200 a hole in the UK out. Yeah for me, like I have a 362 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,759 pretty sort of low demand for this sort of thing to know my day to 363 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:15,799 day life, so Vexed kind of fell into I almost kind of forgot that 364 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,920 last record even came out. So when they started with the panic chords and 365 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,359 the text to speech anti fetish, I did kind of feel the energies up 366 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,880 from my body slightly. But when the riff came in, I mean, 367 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,960 you say car bomb to me, it sounds like out of Starbyling Biscuit, 368 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,920 Like that's a great show, really weird probably what they're actually listening to. 369 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:37,119 Yeah, and that is not a bad thing. That's one of the best 370 00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:41,480 great riff of recent years. So applying that sort of principle to metal core, 371 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,720 it's something that I could definitely be a lot more interested in what they 372 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,880 were doing last time. Yeah, I agree. I think there's there's more 373 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,960 hooks going on with you know, the kind of kill or be killed part 374 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,359 as well. It feels more honed into it. The catchy floor fella while 375 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,079 having some of those more explosive elements in there, like there's a bit where 376 00:22:57,079 --> 00:23:02,640 it just drops out and she just goes like rung just yeah yeah, yeah, 377 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,799 so yeah, good luck to them. And then today, as we've 378 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:08,400 been recording this, I've seen a bunch of people getting excited that Twitching Tongues 379 00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:12,720 have sort of emerged out of a bit of a hibernation. They've reissued their 380 00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:17,799 debut album, Sleep Therapy as a handful of unreleased bits and bobs on it. 381 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:18,880 I think, you know, people would be like, oh my god, 382 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,519 Twitching Tongues back, and then saw it was reissubing our album and stuff. 383 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:26,119 But it's got a new heavy mix, new version of the artist. 384 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,279 Cool just in terms of what is here, there's like one little instrumental track 385 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:33,039 I think it is inserted into the album, and then bonus tracks. There 386 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:37,880 is the two thousand ten demo, and then I think two unreleased covers and 387 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,240 those were of course what drew my attention where Twitching Tongues for you know, 388 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:45,880 a bando who are part of the hardcore scene have the coolest taste in like 389 00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:48,079 cover songs and stuff like that, like this remind being on their bandcap today 390 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:51,960 reminded me of when they put out a cover of neck Romantical Screams by Celtic 391 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,400 Frost, and it was super fucking heavy. But forever my Queen. I 392 00:23:56,599 --> 00:24:00,240 love that Twitching Tongues are going to get a bunch of hardcore kids to listen 393 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,720 to a Pentagram. So I thought about that. I was like, because 394 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,599 there's my favorite about Hitching Tongues. It's for a hardcore band. They are 395 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,640 there are are thosengments that I've always reached well beyond hardcore, even what other 396 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,799 fans are doing, where they're bringing in golf and just like strap metal and 397 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,279 all that sort of stuff, and having that as a cover on here, 398 00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:19,680 I was like, that's that's pretty cool. I'm not listening to properly, 399 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,440 but I kind of recognize, like is that yeah, yeah, I mean 400 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:27,799 it's like Doom Pioneers again, very like foundational to lectional music, but fairly 401 00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:32,839 obscure for what you know, again, your average knocked loose fan might be 402 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,200 stumbling onto. And then Type of Negative is like a given debut album Typo 403 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,319 that is a record that is ripe for some hardcore reimagining because it's so fucking 404 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:47,559 angry and the way they like lay into the beatdowns on this so stupidly but 405 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,039 while still having like the pep of the melodic bits. Well it's just a 406 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:52,599 bit of activity as well from them, but they said they did a whole 407 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:57,839 statement like from like Closed Class Records, We're back and and so like they 408 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,839 I imagine there will be more than just this debut reissue. At the moment, 409 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,039 this is a starting point. Good things there. Some charting news, 410 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:12,119 Seventy two Seasons is Metallica's first number one record in the UK since Death Magnetic, 411 00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:17,960 so congratulation to them, but it is their first since and Justice for 412 00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:22,519 All to not go number one in the United States and has had their weaker 413 00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:26,359 to sales week in quite a while. The sales week thing, I won't 414 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,960 put two. I mean a it's Metallica. They're going to be fine, 415 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,960 yeah, I mean like the Black album with still like fucking selling good lead 416 00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:40,119 copies every week, but um sales week thing. You know, generally they've 417 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,119 gone down over the years. They release albums quite you know, far apart 418 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,319 whatever. It's been kept off the top spot by Morgan Wallen, who has 419 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,039 been up there in the US for fucking ages, despite the fact that he's 420 00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:56,440 a horrible racist apparently, but not even Metallica able to dethrone Morgan Wollen at 421 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:02,759 the moment, but interesting stats going on there. This was just such an 422 00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:06,839 eye roll because last week, again we recorded last week's show as we are 423 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,160 today, just scheduling wise a day early than we usually do, and we 424 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,240 had a conversation about Dominion Festival, which canceled last week, and we were 425 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,400 talking about the sort of big wave of UK festivals I've kind of popped up 426 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:22,079 and then quite as quickly, you know, petered out and had to postpone, 427 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,920 cancel whatever, and so many of them sort of covering similar ground stuff 428 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,599 of that, and I mentioned Manifest as one of the other fests sort of 429 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,200 exists that seemed to be in similar ground. And the day after we recorded 430 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,680 that episode, before it actually went out, Manifest came out and said that 431 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,359 they have canceled this year's festival as well, and unlike the previous couple of 432 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,359 years where they postponed to the following years, this year they have said we've 433 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,680 we've tried, and we failed. That's it. Manifest is not going to 434 00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:48,799 be returning. So I'm not going to labor this because I think we went 435 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:52,359 fairly deep into the conversation last week. But the fact that the week the 436 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,119 day after we recorded that Manifest came out and did the same thing was just 437 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,799 another like oh oh my god, Okay, this is going to keep on 438 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:03,119 happening. Something that I do think is worth a little bit of discussion over 439 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,319 is Brixton Academy. If you are a regular gig go in the UK, 440 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,839 particularly of course London, you will probably be aware that for the last several 441 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,160 months Brixton Academy has been closed and gigs have not been allowed to take place 442 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,200 there. Various shows that were scheduled to take place at Brixton Academy, like 443 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,079 you know the Career to a show that you were going to for example, 444 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,279 Sam had to move there Tooth Yeah exactly, been rescheduled to Wembley or wherever 445 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:29,480 is available. This is due to an event that happened at the end of 446 00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:34,319 last year where unfortunately at a show there was a crowd crush and some people 447 00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:40,359 were killed and some people were injured. Obviously a horrific event. But since 448 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,920 then Brixton has been closed and it had its license sort of investigated, I 449 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,599 suppose, And a new story has been floating around in the last couple of 450 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:53,799 days that The Metropolitan Police in London are pushing to permanently revoke Brixton Academy's concert 451 00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:00,000 license due to what they say a lack of trust in the kind of organized 452 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:04,240 and so on. Who are there and um this obviously it's a very fawny 453 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,599 subject, both in the sense that it's stemmed out an event where people's lives 454 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:12,519 were lost, but also you are you know, you're moving into a bit 455 00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:18,599 of politics here in regards to what goes on with uh you know, who 456 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,559 is wanting to you know, use bits of the city or whatever, you 457 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:26,799 know what for what purposes city buildings are going to be put towards and stuff 458 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:32,720 like that. Um, But Britain Academy is such an iconic venue for the 459 00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:34,240 city of London. Like I've not even I've only been there a couple of 460 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,759 times because I didn't grow up in London, but like not only just the 461 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,400 history of hearing about of stuff. You know, it's the venue are a 462 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,039 saw Carlie ray Jepson for the first time we went to that incredible mass show. 463 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,839 They're like, I've been there a small handful of the times and I 464 00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:52,759 would be gutted if Britain Academy did not return. Yeah, I've got strong 465 00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:57,480 feelings on this because again you reallyn't in and it is tragic and horrible, 466 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,200 but it just feels like such a disproportional response to to what went down when 467 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:10,160 you kind of look into it, where the talkies obviously the venue got people 468 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,319 who didn't have tickets basically forced their way in or allegedly that I was imports 469 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,160 say like they were paying security cards to just let them throw. Which again, 470 00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:23,440 if that's the case, security these venues aren't employed by the venue. 471 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,880 They are not security company. It's an external security company that will be hired. 472 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,079 That's who. Then if that's the case, that's where the responsibility lies. 473 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:34,799 There is things I'm sure the venue could have done. But when it's 474 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:38,240 a situation like this where it was like how many gigs going at Brigson Academy 475 00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:44,039 each year and how many gigs? Has nothing like this ever happened, it's 476 00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:47,960 so like the fact that they had this one time and then they're like shut 477 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,279 it down for good. It makes me feel like they've just been looking for 478 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,960 like not necessarily met place, but whatever, council whatever, people whoever it 479 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,920 makes decisions gone, Okay, now I've got a shut it down for good. 480 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,559 We can build some expensive how some flats there that no one can afford 481 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,839 to live in and continue to gentrify the area. It's that, That's how, 482 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,839 That's what the whole thing screams to me. And again, first of 483 00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:14,240 all, is it is still again horrible that people lost their lives in this 484 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,440 that I don't want to like taking any away from that, but it just 485 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:22,079 it feels like this would be such a blow to liveses. But just like 486 00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:27,200 culture and like stuff in London where you're taking one of the most iconic venues 487 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,480 where it's one of the most sort of accessible venues for bands to play in 488 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:34,519 terms of size, Like every band can kind of like come through Brickston Academy 489 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:37,119 at some point and when they decide. It's one of the most popular venues 490 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,000 for bands for America who are like the big bands of their can can kind 491 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,559 of you know, reliably sellut Brickson Academy. Losing that would be such a 492 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:51,359 blow, Yeah, Brixton is it's not just other venues. It's kind of 493 00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:53,799 seen as something of a launch and crash pad for big bands where if you 494 00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:57,119 want to make a step to an arena band, you got to Brixton. 495 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,440 It's one of those in UK terms, like I don't live in London, 496 00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:06,519 but we always talk about sort of London venues as almost like the points of 497 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:08,720 the ladder, right yeah, and like it is probably the most the most 498 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,079 It's it's the one which a lot of bands, you know, cap out 499 00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:15,359 at. It's the one that a lot of bands can go into and they 500 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,200 move on beyond, Like you're right, it's one of those tempole fall back 501 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,599 into and reliably so that after they had to shot the big leagues and don't 502 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,960 quiet if you get if you're a Brixton band and you try an arena and 503 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,240 it doesn't you don't pull it off, you can always go back to Brixton. 504 00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:33,960 And there isn't really a The only other venue of that sort of size 505 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,519 that I can think of is like the Royal albert All. I mean that 506 00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:42,400 there's a couple of hundred people more in the seating, like right, yeah, 507 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,119 you know, you know, maybe that reputation will just move to another 508 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,960 venue. I don't know, but it just I mean there's the phrase there 509 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:55,480 are Brixton band like people kind of associate how popular bands are with this venue 510 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,440 and for that to go, like just by pulling one wrung out of the 511 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160 ladder, it does make it harder for bands to, yeah, to sort 512 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,599 of make their way up. And I completely agree with what Sam was saying 513 00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:14,559 and that it feels very opportunistic and it feels like they've got an again. 514 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,960 And the fact that you know, Brisk Academy is an O two owned like 515 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,200 you know, all the academies across the country that we always talk about them 516 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,119 as O two kind of academy chain and stuff. And this is rare for 517 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,599 us to be rallying to O two's offense defense here considering they are almost like 518 00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:29,680 the primary culprit that we've been discussing for the last few months about like much 519 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,920 cuts and stuff in the UK venue circuit, at least in recent months. 520 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,079 And how the fact that all of those academy venues are all owned by a 521 00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:43,200 big you know, conglomerate like that is a negative thing. But the fact 522 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,559 that even someone like an O two of any like that, the you know 523 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:47,799 again the local council whatever and could sort of look at and be like, 524 00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:52,400 you know, we want to but essentially strip all of the live venues out 525 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,200 of the city. Um, it's I agreed, it doesn't. It doesn't 526 00:32:55,799 --> 00:33:00,119 sit right with me at all in a kind of in the honesty and the 527 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,519 authenticity of I guess the reasoning here again, investigate away, make sure nothing 528 00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:08,599 like what happened can happen again. Investigator security companies. If that was a 529 00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:13,079 degree again bribery that was going on there. But um, I think the 530 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,440 loss of bricks and Academy out of this would feel bitter, certainly. So 531 00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:22,240 let's move on to some positive live stuff that's going on. A string of 532 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,680 dates have been announced first off, the one that people have been fucking you 533 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:30,359 know, losing their minds trying to get into better lovers, that being you 534 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,759 know every time I escape plan. They've announced a string of UK dates this 535 00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:38,039 week, not very many. There's one in Brighton, a couple in London 536 00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:45,319 maybe and the new cross In website. Fucking like just just complete nightmare this 537 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,880 morning. I think Alec has been able to sort of swing at me, 538 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,839 so I'm able to do both London shows. So why will be coming back 539 00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:54,920 from that? Those eight battered than broken like shell? But I'm I'm excited. 540 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,079 This is you know, this is the period, but this is like 541 00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:02,119 the buzz of just every time I Die Guys with Gregory John front in small 542 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,599 venues, tickets were disappearing like instantly. That was the last time that greg 543 00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:08,880 played a show here with any band. Has he been here solo? He 544 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,760 did do some. I think he did some like Black Queen and solo stuff 545 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,960 here, but like it's been a while. Yeah, So I mean very 546 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,519 excited for the people who got any of those shows. Alsest I've announced EU 547 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:23,000 and that does include UK dates here playing their record A Kadaloon in full. 548 00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:27,079 Now, this is my favorite Alcest record and they've been doing it in full 549 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:30,039 for like a handful of years, sort of various festivals and whatnot, sort 550 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:31,519 of one offs. I always wanted them to do it here, So I'm 551 00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:35,719 very excited about this. For me, it's like a very strange It's the 552 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,280 day after the Linguary, not a show in London, and the day before 553 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,440 I see Blink Win eighty two, So it's going to be the most whirlwind 554 00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:45,199 three days of all time. That involves getting busses from place to place and 555 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,880 whatnot. But I don't really know why they're doing it because they say anniversary. 556 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:53,119 It's not the tenth anniversary. It's the thirteenth anniversary the Trade Descriptions Act. 557 00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:57,320 Something needs to be enforced, Like what is tenth anniversary? Yeah, 558 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,239 it's like when so when the euro the last one was euro in twenty twenty 559 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,920 one years school twenty mind them deciding to just play it, but like, 560 00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:07,639 yeah, it's not a tenth anniversary tour, is it. You've done it, 561 00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:10,239 You've already did that three years ago. Oh I get annoyed enough when 562 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,800 it's I mean the world was shut out three years ago. Three years out. 563 00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,320 Yeah, they couldn't toy it three years ago. Shut it was like 564 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,039 lad dispute reasually doing their tenth anniversary tour for Wildlife and they for the UK 565 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,480 they did ten plus two anniversary tour. Like yeah, so I've got no 566 00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:27,840 fucking idea, but I do like a kadaloon a great deal, So that 567 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,000 is exciting. Bellwich have announced tour dates around the world. They've done you 568 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,280 know, the US and I went on our side Atlantic as well. For 569 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,960 their Clandestine Gates album that they've released. I have listened to it though once 570 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:44,880 it's big, I enjoyed it. They've announced Yeah, so it's August through 571 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,519 to uh no, sorry, m October and November. They're going around the 572 00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:53,119 US and August and September they are playing here. That does of course include 573 00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:57,039 a little stint a Tangent Festival, but they are doing a handful of UK 574 00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:00,320 dates around that as well. Last time I saw Bell, which was Mirror 575 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,159 Reaper, and they did like maybe about two thirds of Mirror Reaper and that 576 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,360 was their set. So going to see Bell, which here I presume you 577 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,679 would be seeing, you know, at least a large chunk of the Clandestine 578 00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:13,519 Gate and probably nothing else. They're not the kind of band where it allows 579 00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:15,480 them to, you know, do with greatest hits or anything, which is 580 00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:17,800 a bit of a shame because you know, I like the old Bell which 581 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,639 stuff as well, but you know, intrigue to go and see the Clandestine 582 00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:25,239 Gate for sure. And also today Till Linderman as an actually doing a European 583 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:30,760 tour, including a Wembley Arena date with his solo band I guess cool. 584 00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:35,760 And the last thing I want to discuss is something that has been you know, 585 00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:39,159 getting tongues wagging today Trophy Eyes, who are a pretty decent band. 586 00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:44,800 We've covered them on this show before. They are on tour supporting Against the 587 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:50,000 Current and a little incident has gone on here where and against the current fan. 588 00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:53,960 On their social media page, commented saying that Trophy I's in their support 589 00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:00,480 slot were encouraging fans to be mohing and crowdsurface and for a lot of the 590 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,800 against the current fans who were who were gathered here, this made them feel 591 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,119 very uncomfortable and very you know, nervous, and like, you know, 592 00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:13,239 like they are are in danger. I guess and this, you know girl 593 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,880 in question, she says, I almost had a panic attack. We had 594 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,800 to move to side the venue. You know, it's very disrespectful to be 595 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,880 doing these things when most of us are against the current fans who are here 596 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:29,519 for them. And Trophy Eyes responded to this person with two words, fuck 597 00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:37,280 you. No no other explanation at all, And I guess it's caused a 598 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,559 little bit of an arms race, a little bit of a war of words 599 00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:43,039 between two sides of this debate. Now, it's very easy for us, 600 00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:45,199 as you know, people who listen to a lot of heavy music and so 601 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,280 on, to just look at this, you know, this against the current 602 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,719 fan and go ha ha, you little baby. Um. I suppose what 603 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,960 I would like to say is if you are someone who feels, you know, 604 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,199 nervous around most trying to that if you don't like being around, if 605 00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:06,320 you don't like being in the area of the crowd where that's going on, 606 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,679 um, that's cool. You don't have to be involved in it, you 607 00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:13,320 know, like that, that's that's fine. Um. And if anyone tries 608 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,920 to again, you know, crowd kill you or whatever, try and involve 609 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,639 you in something that you clearly do not want to be a part of them, 610 00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:21,360 that's fully on them. They're they're the dickhead in this situation. Um. 611 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,400 But I think it's the particular part of this point where she says most 612 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,039 of us are against the current fans, and we were here before all of 613 00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,679 your fans. We got in before them. So it's just the entitlement of 614 00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:36,400 the statement is that that's what made that's just made her come across as like 615 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,400 the bag the bad guy in this situation where it's not like hey, um 616 00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:44,360 because you maybe you know, being that bit more considerate, like I know 617 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,840 your your fans are to you as well, but it was like whatever it 618 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,559 was gonna like, no, we we take priority. Your fans aren't allowed 619 00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:52,440 to, you know, come and support you because it's not your gig. 620 00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:57,079 It's that it's kind of like that's not going to get anyone. It's the 621 00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:00,639 common attitude of someone who like has queued up since you know, two am 622 00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:05,800 to get to the barrier, and then because of that thinks they have you 623 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,320 access to that spot. And again the idea that support bands cannot have a 624 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,840 good set because the center area of the stage has been completely occupied by just 625 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,840 like the most demented of fans who've got to be in there early and don't 626 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,639 want anyone pushing on their spot. If you are upset about you know more 627 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,199 more rowdy moshes or whatever around you, maybe don't cling to that spot in 628 00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:31,559 the middle of the fucking room just because you got there first. I think, 629 00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:36,800 Yeah, I try to sort of take the devil's advocate position and try 630 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,880 anything like what would I think if I was in this person's shoes and I 631 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:44,400 thought if I was going to see a bandold they had a poker support band, 632 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,920 something I know nothing about, and the singer came out and when everyone 633 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,599 bite each other, I would freak out two and I would think that is 634 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:53,000 out of order, why have you done that? But at the same time, 635 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,239 what you would do, though, is you know the biting rangement. 636 00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,119 Yeah, you just stopped being in the biting area and then maybe maybe you 637 00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:02,760 could move back to your spot, hopefully a little bit later when the headliner 638 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,719 were on. But know exactly I wouldn't. I wouldn't then think, oh, 639 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,920 I'm want to go. Let the poker ban know that they're not allowed 640 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,239 to ask people to do that. And also, moshing is the sort of 641 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,039 thing where you think, how do you not know what that is? It's 642 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:20,880 not that you're at a Burlives concert. You're not completely removed from the sort 643 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,599 of place where a mosh pit could feasibly I don't know if you listened to 644 00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:29,440 it against the currents or them, but like, yeah, it's twenty fifty 645 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,119 when people thought they were important. Um yeah, I mean again, if 646 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,119 you I think it just comes down to you've just got to move out of 647 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:40,119 the way. Everyone's paid to be there. Everyone's paid like, everyone's paid 648 00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:43,559 to be there. Everyone gets them to have well they as long as they're 649 00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:47,400 not being directly a dick to you don't like then try and dictate how they 650 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,480 have fun at a gig. Yeah, and again you can have like, 651 00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:54,119 you can have fun by wherever you want to be later on or whatever. 652 00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:59,320 But I think particularly the idea that because you got in there first, the 653 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,960 fans of the support band who are playing earlier cannot kind of have access to, 654 00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:07,440 you know, do what they want to do during your show or whatever. 655 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,800 I think he's a very self entitled thing to do, and that is 656 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,159 the part that sort of just completely undermines any kind of why don't just move 657 00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:16,079 out the way sort of thing that's going on there. So there you go, 658 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:22,519 questions Tom Reid asked after the Visceration Plague chat on the hell Ripper special. 659 00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:24,679 I ended up watching the making of documentary of that album any other good 660 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,480 making of docks. I mean this comment sort of led me more the sort 661 00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:32,360 of, you know less some kind of monster more, you know again, 662 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,559 like little YouTube docs and things like that. And I remember, you know, 663 00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:38,039 it's that kind of era of like not just a visceration plage, but 664 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:40,639 like the Torture one as well. I remember watching when that came out. 665 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,039 At the same time there was the Monolith in Humanity decapitation one, and I 666 00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:46,880 always like the Cattle ones because you get to watch Travis Ryan lay down his 667 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:52,079 vocal parts without anything else going on. You just get the isolated kind of 668 00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:55,440 shit going on. That's good. I couldn't really think of many making of 669 00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:59,960 documents because most times if I'm watching like sort of banning Musican documentaries, it's 670 00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:04,760 kind of the taur ones, the kind of more wide reaching ones. I 671 00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:07,719 was like, is that because punk bands would happen? Yeah, like that's 672 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,440 punk. Into my head was this is this is a throwback, and this 673 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,599 is gonna get a judgment. But way back way back in the sort of 674 00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:16,800 the innocent days of twousand and nine, when The Blackout, we're releasing their 675 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,639 kind of like recording diaries videos on YouTube, like and I used to watch. 676 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,360 I'd watch those because there's one that, like the Blackout just goofing around 677 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:30,360 having fun playing basketball whilst they're recording there from their albums. But that is 678 00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:32,119 literally where my mind went for this, because I just a lot of these 679 00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:37,360 bands are like, don't really document this stuff anymore. The Blackout didn't really 680 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:42,800 come up on my list. I had nothing else similarly, like, yeah, 681 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,199 I have not seen too many The masters on ones are really good, 682 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,119 But outside of that, there's a really good They're a really long one for 683 00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:51,880 Hashton Grim, didn't they Yeah, Yeah, And I remember the Empress Ham 684 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,320 ones as well, we're good, like they're great shout. Yeah. Well, 685 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,280 the ones that came to mind for me were more like clips in sort 686 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,079 of larger films, like the two favorites one Scott Walker film thirty century Man, 687 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,079 when he's doing the drift and there's this thing like Scott Walker is an 688 00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:14,559 unforgiving perfectionist and just has him slap a big piece of pork. And maybe 689 00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:20,119 my favorite cut in any film ever is in the Anivil movie, and it 690 00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:24,119 is when they're on that wherever they are recording with Chris Gredis and the cut 691 00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:28,800 from lips doing that WinCE inducing vocal to you think that's one of the worst 692 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,000 things I've ever heard, to him pinning Rob against the wall for saying it 693 00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:37,840 wasn't very good. Yeah, that's very good. Yeah for me, Like 694 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,559 MYRL think Many one was good. The Master ones very really gretched out, 695 00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:42,719 and I guess the more recent one them kind of ban is. I remember 696 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,000 the alphaville ones that Period Triumphant did when they've got like Thomas from a Sugar 697 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,159 covered in a play and there's like tycho drums and stuff like that. That's 698 00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:54,320 a pretty cool thing to watch unfold mentioning Imperial Triumphant John Heaton, Joe Heaton 699 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,599 sorry asks what is the most in awe you've been watching a particular musician at 700 00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:02,360 a gig. I saw him Perire Triumphant in Bristol last week and watching the 701 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,159 bassist felt like watching an avant guard Cliff Burton in a mask. I'm a 702 00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:10,360 similar one to that, well, not bassist, but the very first time 703 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:15,840 I saw Baby Metal live and their bassis had like an eight string bass, 704 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:19,599 like some ridiculous yeah, and like they're again in their mast and I was 705 00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,079 just watching gonna like this is baby Metal and they've got this backing band too. 706 00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:24,800 Are Like when they they let him couldn't do like a bit of a 707 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,679 muti intu metal jam bit so the girls could like take a break, and 708 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,559 I just wasn't. It was like, this is actually ridiculous how good Baby 709 00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:35,360 Metals backing band is at this point. And the bassing predicula like was just 710 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,760 like doesn't need that much because he's basis Oh no, no, no, 711 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,840 actually does he's playing all of those bass strings right now. Did you see 712 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,800 that clip like late last year of his easy top new bassist when he had 713 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,880 like a fucking seventies training bass or something. It was massive. Yeah, 714 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,840 no, I haven't see that one, but yeah, like a ridiculous bassis 715 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,119 is kind of an easy one to like kind of be an aura of because 716 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,599 you're not normally paying that much attention to the bassis. But if one of 717 00:44:55,639 --> 00:45:00,079 them can grab your attention, is they're doing something right. I've not seen 718 00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:04,840 this bass player live in the flesh, but the guy from Origin on this 719 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,079 subject, like he could play for Stevie Wonder. It's fucking unbelievable for me, 720 00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:12,679 to be honest. The instrument that draws my attention most, that really 721 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,800 does inspire or is a great drummer. Yeah, and Sahara drummers. Yeah, 722 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,199 I haven't got particularly interesting shows. Obviously, married the Plantier every single 723 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,719 time JP from Clutch, Jp from Clutch. Billy Rymer was the drummer both 724 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,840 times I saw Dillanjo escape plant just fucking insane. And Paul Mazurko it's, 725 00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:34,880 you know, in his fifties playing like that. And Abe Cunningham, like 726 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,840 not necessarily for anything particularly crazy, but just the way he could write a 727 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:44,360 bee it's pretty much unparalleled. And alternatively, all four members of Converge, 728 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,480 Yeah, I mean again Similarly, like drummers like Daniel Tracy from Death Heaven 729 00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:51,639 is always amazing to watch. Um Lepress's drummer is amazing. I mean he 730 00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:52,920 had to contender the fact that he had like Einar at the front of his 731 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,480 band, who's probably demanding mostly attention, but he still really gets it. 732 00:45:55,519 --> 00:46:00,400 A good gou David Gray from like Aca Coca and then he's also been playing 733 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,159 live like a Nana thrack and stuff and voices like it is always a big 734 00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:07,079 one because he is so relaxed when he plays, but he's playing Aca Coca. 735 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,920 It's fucking mental watching him. But maybe, like my answer I think 736 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,679 here, if I had put it down to one, is maybe the drummer 737 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,400 from Interama, TJ. Chalders. Oh yeah, have you seen a drama 738 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:23,840 live? Not live? I've seen videos and it's like watching that guy is 739 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,800 like unbelievable, Like you're like quivering in his presence. It is so fucking 740 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,280 powerful. So I think him like for non drummers like guitar wise, like 741 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,800 Mike from Job is always great to watch, just like what he's fucking doing 742 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,159 to that guitar. And then I was checked thinking about a recent one is 743 00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:44,239 a ranti Pazuzu when I was watching all of their guitarists and stuff, not 744 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:49,880 really playing guitar more just sort of abusing the things around them of like the 745 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,920 guitarists like literally at one point beating his guitar pedals with his fists at the 746 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,599 end to sort of just ring noise out of them and like grained picking them 747 00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:00,360 up and groaning them against each other. Stuff like that. That's always quite 748 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,559 translixing. Mark Darnell asks, it's my birthday today. What's the best slash 749 00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:08,599 favorite music related birthday gift you've ever received. I don't really have an interesting 750 00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:12,159 answer for this one. I got an acoustic guitar a few years ago, 751 00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:15,320 which is put him the favorite thing I own full stop. But normally when 752 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,440 it comes to music, maybe the odd book or you can be playing on 753 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:23,079 it, that would be the worst song of the year if I do do 754 00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:28,039 that. For the last couple of times I've been to Damnation, they were 755 00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:30,840 birthday presents, and first one I went to download, which was super monumental 756 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:36,480 for me. But other than that, yeah, nothing particularly unique or exciting. 757 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,239 Yeah. I remember my girlfriend bought me a ticket to see Mastered on 758 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:45,159 on that tour. When they had a fella from Neurosis along singing with him, 759 00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:49,920 and that was amazing. I think my favorite one is probably she bought 760 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,039 me the Trip to con Requiend like live album thing they did from Roadburn, 761 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,880 like the massive edition version of like all the fucking like it's like a book 762 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,960 you fold out and stuff. That's one of my favorite things that I own, 763 00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:01,119 and so I guess by default it would probably be that she brought me 764 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:04,360 into Army Record as well, which is nice because that was a that was 765 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,719 the year as my Alm of the Air and that's bloody good. Mostly just 766 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,559 like you know, Very's vinyl I've got over the years. God, very 767 00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:12,800 nice pair of headphones to my birthday one year, but I've had like nothing 768 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,480 interesting exciting music related as ort of birthday presents. You have just reminded me. 769 00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:21,000 I completely forgot about it, Sintil just now. But a couple of 770 00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:23,599 years ago, my mate from school who I hadn't seen in a couple of 771 00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:28,079 years, just turned up at my house with a wrapped present and he handed 772 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:30,760 it to me. I unwrapped it and it was a vinyl of Celestial Lineage 773 00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,000 and I said, how did you know? I like this? You don't 774 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,239 even like rock music, I don't worry about it, and then left, 775 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,400 See I like that one because that's a little like, you know, that's 776 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:45,440 mysterious as well. I've never even spoken it to him about it and it 777 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,480 was just yeah, and I said, well, what do I have to 778 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,280 get you something? Now? Don't worry about mate, I was like, 779 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,239 you dying. That's a great present, but it's also one that slightly opens 780 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,599 the uptually like am I being spied on? Like? Do I have to 781 00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:59,400 be concerned about my my surroundings here? So that yeah, that is a 782 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,719 good one. That's think that's probably the winner, just through Sheer again, 783 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:06,679 Enigmatic quality and Malcolm fox As this is one for you, Sam. What 784 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,199 bands could release a seventy minute album that Sam would make an exception? I 785 00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:13,119 mean I did? I mean that I can pick two albums off the top 786 00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:16,440 of my head that over eighteen minutes that I really like, which is Bruce 787 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,880 Springsteen's The River and Smashing Pumpkins Melancholy in the Infinite Sadness. I know they're 788 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,920 both double albums, but there you know, I do like long albums on 789 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:30,320 occasion. Okay, well let's change that too, not just you know some 790 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,719 of the most classic albums that exist. But what band that you like that 791 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,199 you're a fan of? Right, But if a band announced our next album 792 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,400 is coming out, it's seventy minutes plus, which band would you be like 793 00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:47,079 the least nervous? Slash upset about that being the case? Jef heavns a 794 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:51,280 really obvious shout, because I mean, they've pushed an hour before they could 795 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,760 they could find another ten minutes, and I wouldn't mind. What did you 796 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,199 think about like Hushton Grin by master On, because that's there, Yeah, 797 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,559 mashed On the one I was gonna say, I think Hushmand was a little 798 00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:05,039 bit long, but still mostly fantastic. Also, I would be fascinted to 799 00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:08,719 see what Code Orange could do with something that long, like because I think 800 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,599 they could do something really interesting with it. But I like that would be 801 00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:15,400 more curiosity. And if Oath Breakrever came back, I would be fun with 802 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:22,320 them doing again like sixty minutes. That's like them and Death Heaven. They've 803 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,039 already you know, they've pushed close to that, so that's why they're kind 804 00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:30,280 of like my obvious shouts. Other than that, probably you know others that 805 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,079 I could I could stomach a long record a Devin Townsend, for example, 806 00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:37,480 I can handle some of his like he's done stuff that's pushing around that seventy 807 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,960 minute mars and paths around. Yeah, and I think that's fantastic. Like 808 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,159 it's not it's it's not totally uncommon. It's just because it's been recently, 809 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,000 there's been a lot of them, and they haven't all that, and they've 810 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,239 all been albums that should be a good sort of fifteen twenty minutes shorter. 811 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,960 Yeah, apart from the DoD Hindguards record, which is exactly as long as 812 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,639 it needs to be. Um cool. As said, the last thing that 813 00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:01,239 we've done is obviously the albumlet with Hell Ripper. If you've not checked that 814 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,559 out, you've got no excuse. It's live for everybody, and it was 815 00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:07,320 fucking great, really good conversation going on there, very likable guy to talk 816 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,920 to, very good indeed. But this coming weekend for patrons, you know, 817 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,760 there's lovely people who keep us going by supporting us at Patron the com 818 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,519 slash that's not MeTL. We are going to have that album club pack that 819 00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:21,440 we announced last week where we are going to be looking at Death Leopards Pyromania 820 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,480 and how that announced the beginning of the hair Metal Age, Fight Stars, 821 00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:29,360 Grand Unification, Is it good? Who Knows? Comeback Kids, Wake the 822 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,559 Dead and Autopsy's deliciously horrible mental funeral. I've been doing, you know, 823 00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:36,079 the first sort of rounds of listening of these, having a good time so 824 00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:39,400 far. I tweetly like yesterday, but add Autopsy to the list of classic 825 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,159 death metal bands. I should have listened too long ago. That's what I 826 00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:47,480 like to hear. I've been alternating between Autopsy and Death Leapond back and forth, 827 00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:53,639 and it's getting intense whipple, So there you go. That'll be coming 828 00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:59,360 to Patron the com slash that's not metal. The releases for today, the 829 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,239 twenty eight of March, it's sort of quieting down off, like the last 830 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,320 couple of weeks were so fucking mad. But the one that was in our 831 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,800 reviews episode that we would encourage you to go out and listen to today comes 832 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:15,000 from Enforced and that's War Remains. That's the really just violent, full on 833 00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:20,079 crossover thrash ripper Elsewhere Craid La Filfare putting out Trouble and their Double Lives. 834 00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:22,480 This was their live album. They've got coming out, but also had us 835 00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:24,840 couple of original studio tracks on it and we covered a single and it was 836 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:30,679 really good, So I will be certainly checking that out elsewhere. Danger Face 837 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,880 be Damned, this is a pretty cool one. I mean, I've not 838 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:37,159 heard anything from this yet, but danger Face were a Boundy Potter record a 839 00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:38,199 few years ago that I believe we reviewed in the podcast. It was a 840 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,159 really good like I think from the UK kind of but it certainly it sounds 841 00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:45,480 like UK punk music from sort of the early twenty tens and stuff like that. 842 00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:47,599 If you're into you feed the Rhinos and that kind of business. That 843 00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,039 was a very enjoyable record that they put out, so I'm excited to see 844 00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:57,199 them following that up elsewhere The Damned releasing Darkerdelic, which is such a bad 845 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,679 name for an album title. But I've seen fucking most of the songs of 846 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,159 this live. That was most of their fucking settlers when I saw them the 847 00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:07,159 other other week. But I'll check out the rest of regardless. Crown the 848 00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:12,880 Empire, Dog Sam Any any interesting Crown the Empire these days? No come 849 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,039 to me for that. I know I like Ship Metal Corps sometimes, but 850 00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:22,000 come on, standards just like the roster every now and then Vamachara No Roses 851 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:27,039 on my grave that has all the closed casket fans out there. It's a 852 00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:30,840 big day for men that Ryan Defreateus likes. Matt Kerrikes you look like a 853 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,639 stranger. He's the guy from Citizen right. Yes, yes, yeah, 854 00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:38,519 this is new solo album. And also Dave House drive it like it's stolen 855 00:53:38,639 --> 00:53:43,400 in some similar kind of terrain there. And then as we move into extreme 856 00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:45,760 metal, the one I would shout out is a man called Lunar Chamber and 857 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,880 Shambalock Vibrations Um This They put out a single like a few days ago, 858 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:57,599 and it's really good, like highly progressive techy, but very like mystical and 859 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,800 kind of unsettling over clinical death metal. To me, it reminds me of 860 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,880 like Catialist and stuff like that that I'm really into crazy bass playing, you 861 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,360 know, eerie chanting and stuff. That will probably be the extreme metal one 862 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:13,159 to go to this time around. Else will also have austere though Corrosion of 863 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,719 Hearts Depressive black Metal Bad is their third record, and I could like thirteen 864 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,880 fourteen years I think, so I thought it'd be worth throwing that one in 865 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,079 there, and on the UK front in the kind of grindy area we got 866 00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:28,000 Wallowing and Earth Reaper and out on Dying Victims productions there is Lucifuge and Monoliths 867 00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:30,039 of Wrath which doesn't sound like Danzig but does in fact sound like kind of 868 00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:35,800 black speed metal. And then an EP which I guess I'll be curious to 869 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,360 see how much this takes off this weekend Swollen Teeth, a self titled EP 870 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,960 who were a new sort of again new metally type band, but there's involvement 871 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,079 from Ross Robinson and Sid Wilson I think as well in the kind of involved 872 00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:50,360 in some degree of production or something going on there, So we'll see how 873 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,239 far that one goes EP from then Swollen Teeth and that is it. Thank 874 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,800 you for listening. We'll goat with more hyperblast before you know it, and 875 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,519 there's always good stuff going on at. That's something that will Patrio. Thank 876 00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,280 you for your supports and being with us as always weep and that's not at 877 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,000 all cheery O