Whilst up everybody this is that's not matter. I'm welcome to hyper Blast,
where we bashed through the week's news in rock and heavy metal. Last week
was our enormous Metallica seventy two Seasons review. Sorry about that. Thank you
for joining us longer than the album, through it and nerding out all things
Metallica with us. This week is quicker and breezier. My name is pern
Hash, Sam dick Nor and Elliott Paisley. I hear Elliot is for the
first time, I think, during the duration of us recording this podcast together
wearing an actual band T shirt. Yeah, first time. I've kind of
realised what this podcast is about. I've thought bird dress for the occasion.
Yeah, it's an exhumed T shirt. If anyone else is wondering, I
was. We've been watching Ed Gambel's run on Pointless at the moment, and
the episode we watched earlier today he mentioned the band of Cobalt on BBC one,
which I thought was absolutely incredible. There hasn't been some niche pulls there.
They've had like a new every British heavy metal question the other week and
it was like Cloven Hoof were like a point that's a that's a deep pull
right there. But Cobalt representation on the BBC. I'm here fully for myself
and Sam are fresh off of the album Roulette episode we did but James McBain
from Hell Ripper that went wide, So I know a bunch of you who
listened to that. But that was a pleasure to do. Yeah, that
was that was really good, like really cool dude to sort of chatman,
get the kind of unlikely stories of how these albums that are You're not one
you'd expect have like influenced Tell Ripper across all of these records were, particularly
the New one. Yeah, good bloke, some wicked you know, picked
some wicked albums, even the ones who individually we may have had you know,
ropey relationships with or whatever from bands. But the other marvelous thing that
happened last week is Sam, you and I were both at Paramore's UK arena
run in support of This is Why, the first time that Paramour have been
to the UK in five years. The arena tour for Last After Laughter was
my first time seeing Paramour, So I've seen them just two trots, two
tours on the trot here, Sam had you not seen them for longer than
that? Twenty fourteen was the last time I saw them, Well, that
was only half a set. I caught the second half their set headline co
headlining Reading festival that year, right, yeah, so very very good to
join them back at this point again, you know, particularly at this point
when I am you know, at that point was your my kind of strained
years of Paramore. So this was me back fully one. Yeah, Well,
when we recorded that Metallic episode last week, I had already been to
my day. We're waiting for Sam to get to theirs, and off camera,
I was like, Sam, stunning. I've seen Paramour like twice now,
I guess you know, never saw them and they're older, you know,
punkier warped tour days or whatever. But two touring cycles in a row.
Here, why don't we talk more about Paramore being one of the best
live fans in the world. So this is the thing, is the two
Like first time I saw them was twenty ten when they were in that sort
of punky walked to mode and they were all on stage and they hated each
other and it was rubbish liked though, And nowadays I was watching was kind
of like god, this is unrecognizable as the band I saw back then,
because my fucking god, they were incredible, like the free piece and then
the backing band they've got filling them out, such a good chemistal stage sound
immaculate. The star power that comes off of Haley Williams. I don't know
why we don't talk to her as one of that talk about her as like
one of the greatest kind of like leads of a band at this point,
because she is like as sort of a big head for live show. She's
got the star power to match like legend I mean for like big rock bands,
I mean pop bands even like touring on that level who come through like
an arena show or anything. They've got to be one of the very best
in the world. And they've they've been on that level for like a decoe
plus, right, And it's and it's not down to production or anything.
Even I do think Paramol like they've got some cool looking stuff on the stage
and everything, but it's just in terms of song power, musical performances and
then a real, you know, kind of emotional connection with the fan base
that you aren't guaranteed at a show like that of that size. I found
it to be almost overwhelming, Like they were absolutely phenomenally good last week,
just the more of the most joyous sets I've seen that. I said,
like the way she's talking to the crowd and kind of like talking to people.
She's picking out someone in the audience to just kind of share a moment
with, and it feels genuine. It doesn't feel like I'm doing my rehearsed
bit here where I'm going to talk to this person in the crowd. It's
kind of like off the cuff from marks and things like that. It's so
real with her. Yeah, I mean a block Party first as the main
support. I thought that was obviously a very apt choice with the sound of
the new album. They're not a band I know especially have a connection to
or anything, but I did enjoy the opportunity to get to see them on
this particular again appropriate album cycle. I really liked block Party in my pre
Grebo days of like two thousand and six, so and I've not never seen
them, so I was like very each of to the sort of opportunity to
see them, Like watching them play Helicopters Live, which is known just like
Got Guitar Hero Free Anthem, like was was awesome. I but yeah,
really good choice to support and I enjoyed the set. Yeah, I swear
to god though Paramour came out and Haley was immediately two stepping, like first
thing she did, just running out there like that, and it was it
was really special because again, the last time I saw them on the After
Laughter tour, it felt like saying the world's best pop band. Was all
of thres going to be no new wavy tunes and stuff in there. They're
still doing that thing where during the last chorus of hard Time she mixes in
the chorus of heart Glass by Blundie and they do a bunch of that and
it's just the coolest thinking during the earlier portions, I was like, man,
seeing Paramour now was like our equivalent of seeing like Peak of Powers Blondie
or something for that kind of like swagger and hit power and everything forgetting that
she was about to do that. But this, like even beyond that,
it felt so much more multi faceted as well, because like opening with with
you first, when it comes to the the newest stuff, like really unorthodox
cool choice. You know, it's not the opener on the album. It's
not a single, not even top half on the record for me really,
but it's got energy to spare and they're like, oh my god, the
News fucking yeah, well that's hit and those guitars come in, Like again,
the News is probably my favorite track off the record, just for that,
like it's brilliant and you know, jagged edge with a just all like
that all time of chorus coming to that was amazing. And then just casually
going and here's that's what you get third and the first song, and they
did that's what you get beforehand in they mixed up the order, but that's
into playing god. But when you just said that as your opening run,
you kind of just the sort of the eruption from the crowd and that's what
you get came in and then it was just like we were in seating people
weren't. No one was sitting. Everyone was on their feet. Yeah,
even like way up in, like I said about the chemistry that you can
see in the players when you're like running out of time and that kind of
slippery group or something. I mean, I was still would have been down
for more, like you know, figure eight or whatever. I would have
liked to see, but that you also have these songs that feel actually fucking
timeless, Like ain't it fun? Is like magical as is you know,
still into you even down to you know, like last Hope, and when
you get that, it's just a spark, but it's enough, like again
like unbelievably life affirming, and like when I listened to Riot as an album,
it's great, but I do feel like it's been kind of surpassed musically
by most of what followed. But then you see those singles live and it's
like, oh, yeah, that's why those songs are what they are,
because, like I said, that's what they get. You get earlier on
is like the loudest sing along I've heard in a long time. And then
Misery Business, which I guess was like dropped out and then returned completely in
the time between this and the last UK tour because they play as well.
But the energy in the air when they play that is like actually unparalleled,
like you totally take it for granted, but then it fucking flies. And
then they do they do that thing where you know, they bring up fans
from the crowd, They pick a few people to come up on stage and
sing the song with him, and it's one of those things that's like for
so many bands that would be really fucking nap, you know, like when
Metallica had like the wall of people standing behind them at like Last Mirror ever,
that was it's rubbish. But yeah, Paramore doing that, it so
becomes such a moment and like, do you know that band Penis spelled Pens.
I've heard of them. I'm not familiar, right, I'm sure I've
seen them like a two thousand Trees or something like again, like an indie
punk band thing. One of the people she brought from the crowd was the
singer from Penis, and it's like become a thing where they've like you spent
the next two weeks after the show being interviewed about what was it like being
the stage with Paramore, But like it was so so joyous and just so
like pure in it just completely an ironically, unashamedly this is just amazing.
Yeah, I think that when like, but even before she's picked out those
fans, it's like, just like, this is one of the best pop
punk songs ever. It is insane that people tried to shame Hayley Williamson's never
playing it again. She did like a whole speech about reclaiming things like on
this tour and what that means, and then like we're claiming the big songs.
But then I bring those fans on for whether the sort of the bridge
of the guitar solo and when the guitars and they're all doing like dancing and
two stepping across the stage. Hailey's full on two stepping around the stage to
that guitar solough and everyone and it just it's so genuine and again like no
one's kind of like being like happy about that, and everyone's sort of celebrating
that these fans get to do it. No one kind of like it should
have been me in like yeah, when you're just getting just a timeless song
like Misery Business with that energy, it is such a good moment. I
don't know if that was my favorite moment in the set to be honest,
though, Like there's so I mean again that that was like the most joyous
moment. But elsewhere, like the other side of the set list was like
when you're getting stuff like Decode, which I'm presuming for you as well as
like this song through all the Vampires out there, the little Squirl I letter
When Decode started and I was like, oh my god, yes, yeah,
last the last tour we got, I caught myself, so it was
good to get like the other the side of you know, the Twilight soundtrack,
but like, wow, it fucking takes off. And then particularly for
me as well, all I wanted like one of my favorite Paramore tracks and
they only gave it its live debut, uh when young like last year,
didn't they um? And like the grace and the aura during that song and
how they carry themselves during it is it is amazing. And then you're going
further into like you know, like even like solo stuff like Crystal Clear from
the Petals Ferrama record, which like I'd kind of forgotten about that song.
It wasn't one of the ones that really like you know, stayed in my
head from the album, but like I really really and I really liked both
of those Hay william Sildo records, but like, yeah, it was a
really lovely addition, like it sounded greatly. Yeah, yeah, really really
lovely. Yeah. And I think again like doing this song before, it
wasn't like I was like it was the half Noise cover they did, which
I'm like, bug, I'm like, yeah, I don't mind them giving
That's what I'm saying. He's just so charismatic. Yeah, if you're gonna
let how do you do a solo track like again? And it feels it
just felt kind of a nicement to be like, you know, we're acknowledged
what Zach is going to have done in the time out open the band and
all that, and and it's just a really fun kind of like he gets
to come to the fund and his moment. I was like, yeah,
no, that that's totally fine art like it's least a song on the setlist,
but still awesome. Yeah. I mean the more delicate side of the
setlist really worked, where like we got um Misguided Ghosts in Manchester in that
kind of slot where they've been like swapping out the acoustic songs and stuff.
I think it's like the first time in the UK they've played that song since
like that tour when it came out, and it was great, and you
know, like um Liar and Crave from the new album both sounded amazing,
Yeah, really good as like a set closer, and then like even bringing
back the only exception, like honestly, no matter what you might think about
any of these tracks in their original forms, just being immersed in the atmosphere
of like paramore fans loving these songs. It just all works. Yeah,
I joded my system for him, and I was like, watch if they
dropped the only exception, I will sing every word even though songs, and
I was like, shocker, I did and it was amazing. Yeah.
And there's the thing with as well, with like musicians who they always say
like, yeah, we feed off the audience's energy or whatever, but says
a lot of them where you can imagine as soon as they're off stage,
it's like they've done a job and you know their mind changes in a different
way and it's not necessarily that dramatic and experience or whatever for them. The
atmosphere and the energy in there's room like like you know, the misery business
fans sing along or whatever, you can actually imagine like haleywill he was walking
off that stage and like she has to be on cloud nine, like coming
off of that, like it's so fucking intense, Like aside from a select
couple that I've got my eye on, of course, I will be shocked
if I see many shows better than that this year, Like they're amazing.
It's currently like top of the list. There's a couple yeah, coming up
that that could top it, But it was after, like I say,
some ropey paramount shows like Just Fly Unfortunately socustances of these. It was nice
kind of see them and it be that good. Yeah, happily one of
the few live bands who can live up to that did actually play here a
few days after a Cannibal Corps. Of course, I mention this a little
when we were talking with James from from hell Rip, because he picked the
Can Cups album and I think he said that he'd see them as well,
but like, fuck, also been five years since they've been here. What
an absolute killing machine like from the first notes of Scourge of Iron through to
the last notes of Hammer Smashed Face, just unstoppable, all of the great
corpse grinder stage bits where he goes to someone in the crowd is like I've
got a gift for you in my pocket, nothing and you know you want
more songs After careful consideration, it's still the last song, all the shit
like that. Weirdly, I feel like I used my voice more during this
than Paramour. You kind of the firing up the chainsaw killer become or you
know, and by the end of the Night and you're hitting Devoured by Vermin
and you would have totally swept up in that you bufferd Rabbit Death help up
by that. It's fully going for a total career spanning setlist where almost every
album is covered, keeping most of the song choices identical, but you know,
mixing up a couple of the songs where they had no mix them Suffer
This Time, which is the big one to drop out, but they filled
it in with the Time to Kill Us Now and Death Walking Terror from that
record. Otherwise pretty much all the staples, but seeing those new violets and
imagined songs as well for the first time, like you main Harvest and Condemnation,
Contagion Routan ripping it out, so heavy news, let's get into it.
A metal core selection of tracks really is what we have to begin with,
and we're going to start with. It's always the way where we do
a band special and not too long after we can rely on those bands to
give us something new. Bleeding Through have released a new single called Wartime.
It's the follow up I guess to the I think maybe three track EP that
they dropped last year, which was called Rage. The main single from that
Rage was when they've been playing live and so on, which I thought was
not Love Will Kill all quality but still pretty good. Sadly still no album
announcement with this was what I was like, really pulling for when we did
that special and everything, but Rage more the kind of hardcore end of Bleeding
Through. This fades in with a melodic death metal lead that sounds so much
like at the Gates and I love that. Yeah, this is my favorite
of the recent run of Bleeding Through tracks. I think this is fucking awesome.
I think this was cool. I mean, for me, the Bleeding
Through Special really was a revelation. I don't think it would be an exaggeration
to call it that. I think this song it sounds great, like you
know, scratches your belly, but there's something slightly demo wish about it.
But I couldn't quite escape. I don't know if it's a different sort of
production style they're going for, if it's a deliberate thing, but um,
I it's it's a strange move from them sort this far in, especially with
the lovel Killer, which had a pretty you know, blockbuster sound quality to
it. Yeah, I agree with you, and I felt that way about
the EP as well, and particularly the main point where it stands out to
me is kind of the clean vocal like processing and stuff like that. And
I don't know why the melodic vocals sound so much thinner than they did on
Love Will Kill or because I presume they're still working with Nick Kenny they have
been for a while. But I agree with you, and hopefully it's something
that we'll be sorted out on an album with these are things that are sort
of slightly more quickly put out there in that regard. That would be my
hope, because I prefer my bleeding through vocals to have a bit more of
you know, Brandon kind of fully out there rather than sort of obscure behind
all this stuff that's going on here. But again, just the kind of
we've had again a slightly more metal core bleeding through song, here's more of
a just a full on metal, you know, melodic version. It's got
a big hard breakdown like the mosh part in this does go off. I
was one of the vocals if they kind of it kind of felt like they're
going for a bit more of like the early sound on the Claims with that,
with the production on it, I don't know if that's what they're sort
of aiming for or if it's just a weird production. So I didn't mind
that too much. I was kind of like cuiping the ias, bleeding through,
just riffing, really hard hitting, like the big kind of mosh care
bit and making me want to sing a fist. I really like this.
Yeah, I guess my only thing now is, like I said, I
was hoping for, you know, the next thing we got after Rage to
be an album announcement. We don't have that, So I don't know whether
that means maybe we will get an album and this will be on it as
one of those sort of like very early singles, or whether we are in
a kind of like just dropping one off singles and EPs and stuff sort of
era for them at the moment, which again I would I would prefer to
get a proper follow up to Level Kill or at some point soon, but
you know, hard to predict what they're doing at the moment. Baretooth.
I've also released a new song which is called Sunshine, you know, coming
off the back of their Wembley Arena show they did. I think from the
title here, it's evidently meant to be like Hey, let's do a fun
one type of thing. It's not a you know, all my demons are
oppressing me kind of beartooth song. It's a very jolly one. The beginning
where he's doing this kind of you know, isolated screen vocal, I find
it unpleasant. And then it gets going for about twenty seconds and then all
the fucking sudden it stops for the acoustic guitar and a pop pook and I'm
not having that. That's disgusted. They between this and Riptide, they're clearly
leaning on a slightly a popular edge. I don't mind the kind of like
isolated vocal bit like the start. They've done that a few times. It's
all the best time they've done it here, but it's kind of a bear
tooth thing. And Yeah, this song is really confusing me because when it
goes hard like this is like Beads. You've ad some of their sort of
hardest sounding, but that chorus and it's so jarring when it comes in,
it just kind of stops dead and goes into it. It feels that they're
going for a day to Remember sort of thing at the moment of like really
leaning into the pop side on the choruses and then having the sort of the
metalcal bits. I don't think it entirely works for them, Like it's a
weird sound that I just isn't jelling for me. The break done this though,
then goes like really really hard and aggressive, and it's just kind of
like what are we going for here? Like it's just like if they kind
of jelled the pop into the song more, I wouldn't mind, but it's
so it's such a like and now we're stopping and here's the act and the
pop chorus just kind of like no transition to it to make it seemles.
It's so jarring. It feels like almost like a joke of like what if
we had super sunny, you know, greatest thing we've ever done, and
then crazy heavy yeah, kind of you know, back and forth. But
it doesn't feel organic in that at all. It feels I mean, I've
always had a problem with bear Tooth sounding too fucking computerized, but like when
you've got those two things slapped next to each other as jarringly transitioning to them
as you're saying, like, it's even more apparent. Yeah, no,
that I would totally agree. I've defended Beartooth, But like with these last
couple of songs, it just feels like I'm not feeling the direction they're going
in. This is the first time all year that I've started thinking about the
awards a few months early, fucking shortlist playlist. Well, because last time
when we did it, I was annoyed that I didn't have that much to
choose song because I was I wasn't keeping track all year. So I thought,
well, this year, I'm gonna starting now. I'm going to start
a document. I've written one thing down and its worst song of the year,
Baretooth Sunshine. Because this is I've got a few others already just in
case. This isn't necessarily the early front runner, but I put it in.
This is indefensively. I don't really like Baartooth anyway, but I can
I feel like I can tell when it's high quality versions of what they do.
Thenneve Me is the first time I would actually say a legitimately enjoyed.
Beartooth was the last album that we did when they started to sort out some
of the problems I've had with them, and then they've gone so far in
the other director again, Well, the verses are like the borderline unlistenable,
like Caleb is squeaking and peeking all over the place, and the verse is
not even one percent conducive to the chorus, which sounds like sappy sort of
boyfriend country and that gives way to an eye roll in juicing breakdown and I
wrote down A Day to Remember as well, and that was something I heard.
But it's not even homesick or what separates me from you. It's a
B side from You're Welcome with a less vocalist. I want to go that
hard. I think You're Welcome is still like the low point for this,
but is is on that level, It's not far off, It's it's not
good like like again, I kind of was like getting a good world back
from bed the back of that Wembley show and now I'm just like, you
make it hard sometimes that's shameful. Yeah, hate that more like it.
Vexed have announced their second album, Negative Energy, is coming on the twenty
third of June, and they've released the leading from that called a tie Fetish.
Vexed UK band, you know heavy metalcore band put our fairly well liked
daby that we reviewed a couple of years ago, did feel like it's sort
of got swallowed up again not all that long after. So it's good to
see them back. And I hope they you know, can um you know
this brings good things for them. Um, it's got almost like reminded me
of the fucking the Woman at the start, you know that anti fetish reminded
me of like nice party songs and stuff like that. That's a real throwback.
But um, big metal core, you know, riff guitar tone,
but mate, bring on all the fucking squee squeet noises like it. Actually,
all of the weird bends and stuff in this makes it. Actually it's
catchier and groovier for having them. It's like, you know, let's do
car bomb or whatever. But for metalcore kids. Yeah, no, I've
kind of got that from veg Star, Like I dug that album and I
was gonna hope said they good from it, and they kind of like not
chasing we've got too much, but just made it a little bit more like
up the weirdest fact for a little bit and but just still kept it super
obnoxious and ignorant, just like full on just low end, like kick your
teeth in metal core. But I think like there were a cool band Vexed,
and I'm excited for them to kind of like step into a bit of
a hole in the UK out. Yeah for me, like I have a
pretty sort of low demand for this sort of thing to know my day to
day life, so Vexed kind of fell into I almost kind of forgot that
last record even came out. So when they started with the panic chords and
the text to speech anti fetish, I did kind of feel the energies up
from my body slightly. But when the riff came in, I mean,
you say car bomb to me, it sounds like out of Starbyling Biscuit,
Like that's a great show, really weird probably what they're actually listening to.
Yeah, and that is not a bad thing. That's one of the best
great riff of recent years. So applying that sort of principle to metal core,
it's something that I could definitely be a lot more interested in what they
were doing last time. Yeah, I agree. I think there's there's more
hooks going on with you know, the kind of kill or be killed part
as well. It feels more honed into it. The catchy floor fella while
having some of those more explosive elements in there, like there's a bit where
it just drops out and she just goes like rung just yeah yeah, yeah,
so yeah, good luck to them. And then today, as we've
been recording this, I've seen a bunch of people getting excited that Twitching Tongues
have sort of emerged out of a bit of a hibernation. They've reissued their
debut album, Sleep Therapy as a handful of unreleased bits and bobs on it.
I think, you know, people would be like, oh my god,
Twitching Tongues back, and then saw it was reissubing our album and stuff.
But it's got a new heavy mix, new version of the artist.
Cool just in terms of what is here, there's like one little instrumental track
I think it is inserted into the album, and then bonus tracks. There
is the two thousand ten demo, and then I think two unreleased covers and
those were of course what drew my attention where Twitching Tongues for you know,
a bando who are part of the hardcore scene have the coolest taste in like
cover songs and stuff like that, like this remind being on their bandcap today
reminded me of when they put out a cover of neck Romantical Screams by Celtic
Frost, and it was super fucking heavy. But forever my Queen. I
love that Twitching Tongues are going to get a bunch of hardcore kids to listen
to a Pentagram. So I thought about that. I was like, because
there's my favorite about Hitching Tongues. It's for a hardcore band. They are
there are are thosengments that I've always reached well beyond hardcore, even what other
fans are doing, where they're bringing in golf and just like strap metal and
all that sort of stuff, and having that as a cover on here,
I was like, that's that's pretty cool. I'm not listening to properly,
but I kind of recognize, like is that yeah, yeah, I mean
it's like Doom Pioneers again, very like foundational to lectional music, but fairly
obscure for what you know, again, your average knocked loose fan might be
stumbling onto. And then Type of Negative is like a given debut album Typo
that is a record that is ripe for some hardcore reimagining because it's so fucking
angry and the way they like lay into the beatdowns on this so stupidly but
while still having like the pep of the melodic bits. Well it's just a
bit of activity as well from them, but they said they did a whole
statement like from like Closed Class Records, We're back and and so like they
I imagine there will be more than just this debut reissue. At the moment,
this is a starting point. Good things there. Some charting news,
Seventy two Seasons is Metallica's first number one record in the UK since Death Magnetic,
so congratulation to them, but it is their first since and Justice for
All to not go number one in the United States and has had their weaker
to sales week in quite a while. The sales week thing, I won't
put two. I mean a it's Metallica. They're going to be fine,
yeah, I mean like the Black album with still like fucking selling good lead
copies every week, but um sales week thing. You know, generally they've
gone down over the years. They release albums quite you know, far apart
whatever. It's been kept off the top spot by Morgan Wallen, who has
been up there in the US for fucking ages, despite the fact that he's
a horrible racist apparently, but not even Metallica able to dethrone Morgan Wollen at
the moment, but interesting stats going on there. This was just such an
eye roll because last week, again we recorded last week's show as we are
today, just scheduling wise a day early than we usually do, and we
had a conversation about Dominion Festival, which canceled last week, and we were
talking about the sort of big wave of UK festivals I've kind of popped up
and then quite as quickly, you know, petered out and had to postpone,
cancel whatever, and so many of them sort of covering similar ground stuff
of that, and I mentioned Manifest as one of the other fests sort of
exists that seemed to be in similar ground. And the day after we recorded
that episode, before it actually went out, Manifest came out and said that
they have canceled this year's festival as well, and unlike the previous couple of
years where they postponed to the following years, this year they have said we've
we've tried, and we failed. That's it. Manifest is not going to
be returning. So I'm not going to labor this because I think we went
fairly deep into the conversation last week. But the fact that the week the
day after we recorded that Manifest came out and did the same thing was just
another like oh oh my god, Okay, this is going to keep on
happening. Something that I do think is worth a little bit of discussion over
is Brixton Academy. If you are a regular gig go in the UK,
particularly of course London, you will probably be aware that for the last several
months Brixton Academy has been closed and gigs have not been allowed to take place
there. Various shows that were scheduled to take place at Brixton Academy, like
you know the Career to a show that you were going to for example,
Sam had to move there Tooth Yeah exactly, been rescheduled to Wembley or wherever
is available. This is due to an event that happened at the end of
last year where unfortunately at a show there was a crowd crush and some people
were killed and some people were injured. Obviously a horrific event. But since
then Brixton has been closed and it had its license sort of investigated, I
suppose, And a new story has been floating around in the last couple of
days that The Metropolitan Police in London are pushing to permanently revoke Brixton Academy's concert
license due to what they say a lack of trust in the kind of organized
and so on. Who are there and um this obviously it's a very fawny
subject, both in the sense that it's stemmed out an event where people's lives
were lost, but also you are you know, you're moving into a bit
of politics here in regards to what goes on with uh you know, who
is wanting to you know, use bits of the city or whatever, you
know what for what purposes city buildings are going to be put towards and stuff
like that. Um, But Britain Academy is such an iconic venue for the
city of London. Like I've not even I've only been there a couple of
times because I didn't grow up in London, but like not only just the
history of hearing about of stuff. You know, it's the venue are a
saw Carlie ray Jepson for the first time we went to that incredible mass show.
They're like, I've been there a small handful of the times and I
would be gutted if Britain Academy did not return. Yeah, I've got strong
feelings on this because again you reallyn't in and it is tragic and horrible,
but it just feels like such a disproportional response to to what went down when
you kind of look into it, where the talkies obviously the venue got people
who didn't have tickets basically forced their way in or allegedly that I was imports
say like they were paying security cards to just let them throw. Which again,
if that's the case, security these venues aren't employed by the venue.
They are not security company. It's an external security company that will be hired.
That's who. Then if that's the case, that's where the responsibility lies.
There is things I'm sure the venue could have done. But when it's
a situation like this where it was like how many gigs going at Brigson Academy
each year and how many gigs? Has nothing like this ever happened, it's
so like the fact that they had this one time and then they're like shut
it down for good. It makes me feel like they've just been looking for
like not necessarily met place, but whatever, council whatever, people whoever it
makes decisions gone, Okay, now I've got a shut it down for good.
We can build some expensive how some flats there that no one can afford
to live in and continue to gentrify the area. It's that, That's how,
That's what the whole thing screams to me. And again, first of
all, is it is still again horrible that people lost their lives in this
that I don't want to like taking any away from that, but it just
it feels like this would be such a blow to liveses. But just like
culture and like stuff in London where you're taking one of the most iconic venues
where it's one of the most sort of accessible venues for bands to play in
terms of size, Like every band can kind of like come through Brickston Academy
at some point and when they decide. It's one of the most popular venues
for bands for America who are like the big bands of their can can kind
of you know, reliably sellut Brickson Academy. Losing that would be such a
blow, Yeah, Brixton is it's not just other venues. It's kind of
seen as something of a launch and crash pad for big bands where if you
want to make a step to an arena band, you got to Brixton.
It's one of those in UK terms, like I don't live in London,
but we always talk about sort of London venues as almost like the points of
the ladder, right yeah, and like it is probably the most the most
It's it's the one which a lot of bands, you know, cap out
at. It's the one that a lot of bands can go into and they
move on beyond, Like you're right, it's one of those tempole fall back
into and reliably so that after they had to shot the big leagues and don't
quiet if you get if you're a Brixton band and you try an arena and
it doesn't you don't pull it off, you can always go back to Brixton.
And there isn't really a The only other venue of that sort of size
that I can think of is like the Royal albert All. I mean that
there's a couple of hundred people more in the seating, like right, yeah,
you know, you know, maybe that reputation will just move to another
venue. I don't know, but it just I mean there's the phrase there
are Brixton band like people kind of associate how popular bands are with this venue
and for that to go, like just by pulling one wrung out of the
ladder, it does make it harder for bands to, yeah, to sort
of make their way up. And I completely agree with what Sam was saying
and that it feels very opportunistic and it feels like they've got an again.
And the fact that you know, Brisk Academy is an O two owned like
you know, all the academies across the country that we always talk about them
as O two kind of academy chain and stuff. And this is rare for
us to be rallying to O two's offense defense here considering they are almost like
the primary culprit that we've been discussing for the last few months about like much
cuts and stuff in the UK venue circuit, at least in recent months.
And how the fact that all of those academy venues are all owned by a
big you know, conglomerate like that is a negative thing. But the fact
that even someone like an O two of any like that, the you know
again the local council whatever and could sort of look at and be like,
you know, we want to but essentially strip all of the live venues out
of the city. Um, it's I agreed, it doesn't. It doesn't
sit right with me at all in a kind of in the honesty and the
authenticity of I guess the reasoning here again, investigate away, make sure nothing
like what happened can happen again. Investigator security companies. If that was a
degree again bribery that was going on there. But um, I think the
loss of bricks and Academy out of this would feel bitter, certainly. So
let's move on to some positive live stuff that's going on. A string of
dates have been announced first off, the one that people have been fucking you
know, losing their minds trying to get into better lovers, that being you
know every time I escape plan. They've announced a string of UK dates this
week, not very many. There's one in Brighton, a couple in London
maybe and the new cross In website. Fucking like just just complete nightmare this
morning. I think Alec has been able to sort of swing at me,
so I'm able to do both London shows. So why will be coming back
from that? Those eight battered than broken like shell? But I'm I'm excited.
This is you know, this is the period, but this is like
the buzz of just every time I Die Guys with Gregory John front in small
venues, tickets were disappearing like instantly. That was the last time that greg
played a show here with any band. Has he been here solo? He
did do some. I think he did some like Black Queen and solo stuff
here, but like it's been a while. Yeah, So I mean very
excited for the people who got any of those shows. Alsest I've announced EU
and that does include UK dates here playing their record A Kadaloon in full.
Now, this is my favorite Alcest record and they've been doing it in full
for like a handful of years, sort of various festivals and whatnot, sort
of one offs. I always wanted them to do it here, So I'm
very excited about this. For me, it's like a very strange It's the
day after the Linguary, not a show in London, and the day before
I see Blink Win eighty two, So it's going to be the most whirlwind
three days of all time. That involves getting busses from place to place and
whatnot. But I don't really know why they're doing it because they say anniversary.
It's not the tenth anniversary. It's the thirteenth anniversary the Trade Descriptions Act.
Something needs to be enforced, Like what is tenth anniversary? Yeah,
it's like when so when the euro the last one was euro in twenty twenty
one years school twenty mind them deciding to just play it, but like,
yeah, it's not a tenth anniversary tour, is it. You've done it,
You've already did that three years ago. Oh I get annoyed enough when
it's I mean the world was shut out three years ago. Three years out.
Yeah, they couldn't toy it three years ago. Shut it was like
lad dispute reasually doing their tenth anniversary tour for Wildlife and they for the UK
they did ten plus two anniversary tour. Like yeah, so I've got no
fucking idea, but I do like a kadaloon a great deal, So that
is exciting. Bellwich have announced tour dates around the world. They've done you
know, the US and I went on our side Atlantic as well. For
their Clandestine Gates album that they've released. I have listened to it though once
it's big, I enjoyed it. They've announced Yeah, so it's August through
to uh no, sorry, m October and November. They're going around the
US and August and September they are playing here. That does of course include
a little stint a Tangent Festival, but they are doing a handful of UK
dates around that as well. Last time I saw Bell, which was Mirror
Reaper, and they did like maybe about two thirds of Mirror Reaper and that
was their set. So going to see Bell, which here I presume you
would be seeing, you know, at least a large chunk of the Clandestine
Gate and probably nothing else. They're not the kind of band where it allows
them to, you know, do with greatest hits or anything, which is
a bit of a shame because you know, I like the old Bell which
stuff as well, but you know, intrigue to go and see the Clandestine
Gate for sure. And also today Till Linderman as an actually doing a European
tour, including a Wembley Arena date with his solo band I guess cool.
And the last thing I want to discuss is something that has been you know,
getting tongues wagging today Trophy Eyes, who are a pretty decent band.
We've covered them on this show before. They are on tour supporting Against the
Current and a little incident has gone on here where and against the current fan.
On their social media page, commented saying that Trophy I's in their support
slot were encouraging fans to be mohing and crowdsurface and for a lot of the
against the current fans who were who were gathered here, this made them feel
very uncomfortable and very you know, nervous, and like, you know,
like they are are in danger. I guess and this, you know girl
in question, she says, I almost had a panic attack. We had
to move to side the venue. You know, it's very disrespectful to be
doing these things when most of us are against the current fans who are here
for them. And Trophy Eyes responded to this person with two words, fuck
you. No no other explanation at all, And I guess it's caused a
little bit of an arms race, a little bit of a war of words
between two sides of this debate. Now, it's very easy for us,
as you know, people who listen to a lot of heavy music and so
on, to just look at this, you know, this against the current
fan and go ha ha, you little baby. Um. I suppose what
I would like to say is if you are someone who feels, you know,
nervous around most trying to that if you don't like being around, if
you don't like being in the area of the crowd where that's going on,
um, that's cool. You don't have to be involved in it, you
know, like that, that's that's fine. Um. And if anyone tries
to again, you know, crowd kill you or whatever, try and involve
you in something that you clearly do not want to be a part of them,
that's fully on them. They're they're the dickhead in this situation. Um.
But I think it's the particular part of this point where she says most
of us are against the current fans, and we were here before all of
your fans. We got in before them. So it's just the entitlement of
the statement is that that's what made that's just made her come across as like
the bag the bad guy in this situation where it's not like hey, um
because you maybe you know, being that bit more considerate, like I know
your your fans are to you as well, but it was like whatever it
was gonna like, no, we we take priority. Your fans aren't allowed
to, you know, come and support you because it's not your gig.
It's that it's kind of like that's not going to get anyone. It's the
common attitude of someone who like has queued up since you know, two am
to get to the barrier, and then because of that thinks they have you
access to that spot. And again the idea that support bands cannot have a
good set because the center area of the stage has been completely occupied by just
like the most demented of fans who've got to be in there early and don't
want anyone pushing on their spot. If you are upset about you know more
more rowdy moshes or whatever around you, maybe don't cling to that spot in
the middle of the fucking room just because you got there first. I think,
Yeah, I try to sort of take the devil's advocate position and try
anything like what would I think if I was in this person's shoes and I
thought if I was going to see a bandold they had a poker support band,
something I know nothing about, and the singer came out and when everyone
bite each other, I would freak out two and I would think that is
out of order, why have you done that? But at the same time,
what you would do, though, is you know the biting rangement.
Yeah, you just stopped being in the biting area and then maybe maybe you
could move back to your spot, hopefully a little bit later when the headliner
were on. But know exactly I wouldn't. I wouldn't then think, oh,
I'm want to go. Let the poker ban know that they're not allowed
to ask people to do that. And also, moshing is the sort of
thing where you think, how do you not know what that is? It's
not that you're at a Burlives concert. You're not completely removed from the sort
of place where a mosh pit could feasibly I don't know if you listened to
it against the currents or them, but like, yeah, it's twenty fifty
when people thought they were important. Um yeah, I mean again, if
you I think it just comes down to you've just got to move out of
the way. Everyone's paid to be there. Everyone's paid like, everyone's paid
to be there. Everyone gets them to have well they as long as they're
not being directly a dick to you don't like then try and dictate how they
have fun at a gig. Yeah, and again you can have like,
you can have fun by wherever you want to be later on or whatever.
But I think particularly the idea that because you got in there first, the
fans of the support band who are playing earlier cannot kind of have access to,
you know, do what they want to do during your show or whatever.
I think he's a very self entitled thing to do, and that is
the part that sort of just completely undermines any kind of why don't just move
out the way sort of thing that's going on there. So there you go,
questions Tom Reid asked after the Visceration Plague chat on the hell Ripper special.
I ended up watching the making of documentary of that album any other good
making of docks. I mean this comment sort of led me more the sort
of, you know less some kind of monster more, you know again,
like little YouTube docs and things like that. And I remember, you know,
it's that kind of era of like not just a visceration plage, but
like the Torture one as well. I remember watching when that came out.
At the same time there was the Monolith in Humanity decapitation one, and I
always like the Cattle ones because you get to watch Travis Ryan lay down his
vocal parts without anything else going on. You just get the isolated kind of
shit going on. That's good. I couldn't really think of many making of
documents because most times if I'm watching like sort of banning Musican documentaries, it's
kind of the taur ones, the kind of more wide reaching ones. I
was like, is that because punk bands would happen? Yeah, like that's
punk. Into my head was this is this is a throwback, and this
is gonna get a judgment. But way back way back in the sort of
the innocent days of twousand and nine, when The Blackout, we're releasing their
kind of like recording diaries videos on YouTube, like and I used to watch.
I'd watch those because there's one that, like the Blackout just goofing around
having fun playing basketball whilst they're recording there from their albums. But that is
literally where my mind went for this, because I just a lot of these
bands are like, don't really document this stuff anymore. The Blackout didn't really
come up on my list. I had nothing else similarly, like, yeah,
I have not seen too many The masters on ones are really good,
But outside of that, there's a really good They're a really long one for
Hashton Grim, didn't they Yeah, Yeah, And I remember the Empress Ham
ones as well, we're good, like they're great shout. Yeah. Well,
the ones that came to mind for me were more like clips in sort
of larger films, like the two favorites one Scott Walker film thirty century Man,
when he's doing the drift and there's this thing like Scott Walker is an
unforgiving perfectionist and just has him slap a big piece of pork. And maybe
my favorite cut in any film ever is in the Anivil movie, and it
is when they're on that wherever they are recording with Chris Gredis and the cut
from lips doing that WinCE inducing vocal to you think that's one of the worst
things I've ever heard, to him pinning Rob against the wall for saying it
wasn't very good. Yeah, that's very good. Yeah for me, Like
MYRL think Many one was good. The Master ones very really gretched out,
and I guess the more recent one them kind of ban is. I remember
the alphaville ones that Period Triumphant did when they've got like Thomas from a Sugar
covered in a play and there's like tycho drums and stuff like that. That's
a pretty cool thing to watch unfold mentioning Imperial Triumphant John Heaton, Joe Heaton
sorry asks what is the most in awe you've been watching a particular musician at
a gig. I saw him Perire Triumphant in Bristol last week and watching the
bassist felt like watching an avant guard Cliff Burton in a mask. I'm a
similar one to that, well, not bassist, but the very first time
I saw Baby Metal live and their bassis had like an eight string bass,
like some ridiculous yeah, and like they're again in their mast and I was
just watching gonna like this is baby Metal and they've got this backing band too.
Are Like when they they let him couldn't do like a bit of a
muti intu metal jam bit so the girls could like take a break, and
I just wasn't. It was like, this is actually ridiculous how good Baby
Metals backing band is at this point. And the bassing predicula like was just
like doesn't need that much because he's basis Oh no, no, no,
actually does he's playing all of those bass strings right now. Did you see
that clip like late last year of his easy top new bassist when he had
like a fucking seventies training bass or something. It was massive. Yeah,
no, I haven't see that one, but yeah, like a ridiculous bassis
is kind of an easy one to like kind of be an aura of because
you're not normally paying that much attention to the bassis. But if one of
them can grab your attention, is they're doing something right. I've not seen
this bass player live in the flesh, but the guy from Origin on this
subject, like he could play for Stevie Wonder. It's fucking unbelievable for me,
to be honest. The instrument that draws my attention most, that really
does inspire or is a great drummer. Yeah, and Sahara drummers. Yeah,
I haven't got particularly interesting shows. Obviously, married the Plantier every single
time JP from Clutch, Jp from Clutch. Billy Rymer was the drummer both
times I saw Dillanjo escape plant just fucking insane. And Paul Mazurko it's,
you know, in his fifties playing like that. And Abe Cunningham, like
not necessarily for anything particularly crazy, but just the way he could write a
bee it's pretty much unparalleled. And alternatively, all four members of Converge,
Yeah, I mean again Similarly, like drummers like Daniel Tracy from Death Heaven
is always amazing to watch. Um Lepress's drummer is amazing. I mean he
had to contender the fact that he had like Einar at the front of his
band, who's probably demanding mostly attention, but he still really gets it.
A good gou David Gray from like Aca Coca and then he's also been playing
live like a Nana thrack and stuff and voices like it is always a big
one because he is so relaxed when he plays, but he's playing Aca Coca.
It's fucking mental watching him. But maybe, like my answer I think
here, if I had put it down to one, is maybe the drummer
from Interama, TJ. Chalders. Oh yeah, have you seen a drama
live? Not live? I've seen videos and it's like watching that guy is
like unbelievable, Like you're like quivering in his presence. It is so fucking
powerful. So I think him like for non drummers like guitar wise, like
Mike from Job is always great to watch, just like what he's fucking doing
to that guitar. And then I was checked thinking about a recent one is
a ranti Pazuzu when I was watching all of their guitarists and stuff, not
really playing guitar more just sort of abusing the things around them of like the
guitarists like literally at one point beating his guitar pedals with his fists at the
end to sort of just ring noise out of them and like grained picking them
up and groaning them against each other. Stuff like that. That's always quite
translixing. Mark Darnell asks, it's my birthday today. What's the best slash
favorite music related birthday gift you've ever received. I don't really have an interesting
answer for this one. I got an acoustic guitar a few years ago,
which is put him the favorite thing I own full stop. But normally when
it comes to music, maybe the odd book or you can be playing on
it, that would be the worst song of the year if I do do
that. For the last couple of times I've been to Damnation, they were
birthday presents, and first one I went to download, which was super monumental
for me. But other than that, yeah, nothing particularly unique or exciting.
Yeah. I remember my girlfriend bought me a ticket to see Mastered on
on that tour. When they had a fella from Neurosis along singing with him,
and that was amazing. I think my favorite one is probably she bought
me the Trip to con Requiend like live album thing they did from Roadburn,
like the massive edition version of like all the fucking like it's like a book
you fold out and stuff. That's one of my favorite things that I own,
and so I guess by default it would probably be that she brought me
into Army Record as well, which is nice because that was a that was
the year as my Alm of the Air and that's bloody good. Mostly just
like you know, Very's vinyl I've got over the years. God, very
nice pair of headphones to my birthday one year, but I've had like nothing
interesting exciting music related as ort of birthday presents. You have just reminded me.
I completely forgot about it, Sintil just now. But a couple of
years ago, my mate from school who I hadn't seen in a couple of
years, just turned up at my house with a wrapped present and he handed
it to me. I unwrapped it and it was a vinyl of Celestial Lineage
and I said, how did you know? I like this? You don't
even like rock music, I don't worry about it, and then left,
See I like that one because that's a little like, you know, that's
mysterious as well. I've never even spoken it to him about it and it
was just yeah, and I said, well, what do I have to
get you something? Now? Don't worry about mate, I was like,
you dying. That's a great present, but it's also one that slightly opens
the uptually like am I being spied on? Like? Do I have to
be concerned about my my surroundings here? So that yeah, that is a
good one. That's think that's probably the winner, just through Sheer again,
Enigmatic quality and Malcolm fox As this is one for you, Sam. What
bands could release a seventy minute album that Sam would make an exception? I
mean I did? I mean that I can pick two albums off the top
of my head that over eighteen minutes that I really like, which is Bruce
Springsteen's The River and Smashing Pumpkins Melancholy in the Infinite Sadness. I know they're
both double albums, but there you know, I do like long albums on
occasion. Okay, well let's change that too, not just you know some
of the most classic albums that exist. But what band that you like that
you're a fan of? Right, But if a band announced our next album
is coming out, it's seventy minutes plus, which band would you be like
the least nervous? Slash upset about that being the case? Jef heavns a
really obvious shout, because I mean, they've pushed an hour before they could
they could find another ten minutes, and I wouldn't mind. What did you
think about like Hushton Grin by master On, because that's there, Yeah,
mashed On the one I was gonna say, I think Hushmand was a little
bit long, but still mostly fantastic. Also, I would be fascinted to
see what Code Orange could do with something that long, like because I think
they could do something really interesting with it. But I like that would be
more curiosity. And if Oath Breakrever came back, I would be fun with
them doing again like sixty minutes. That's like them and Death Heaven. They've
already you know, they've pushed close to that, so that's why they're kind
of like my obvious shouts. Other than that, probably you know others that
I could I could stomach a long record a Devin Townsend, for example,
I can handle some of his like he's done stuff that's pushing around that seventy
minute mars and paths around. Yeah, and I think that's fantastic. Like
it's not it's it's not totally uncommon. It's just because it's been recently,
there's been a lot of them, and they haven't all that, and they've
all been albums that should be a good sort of fifteen twenty minutes shorter.
Yeah, apart from the DoD Hindguards record, which is exactly as long as
it needs to be. Um cool. As said, the last thing that
we've done is obviously the albumlet with Hell Ripper. If you've not checked that
out, you've got no excuse. It's live for everybody, and it was
fucking great, really good conversation going on there, very likable guy to talk
to, very good indeed. But this coming weekend for patrons, you know,
there's lovely people who keep us going by supporting us at Patron the com
slash that's not MeTL. We are going to have that album club pack that
we announced last week where we are going to be looking at Death Leopards Pyromania
and how that announced the beginning of the hair Metal Age, Fight Stars,
Grand Unification, Is it good? Who Knows? Comeback Kids, Wake the
Dead and Autopsy's deliciously horrible mental funeral. I've been doing, you know,
the first sort of rounds of listening of these, having a good time so
far. I tweetly like yesterday, but add Autopsy to the list of classic
death metal bands. I should have listened too long ago. That's what I
like to hear. I've been alternating between Autopsy and Death Leapond back and forth,
and it's getting intense whipple, So there you go. That'll be coming
to Patron the com slash that's not metal. The releases for today, the
twenty eight of March, it's sort of quieting down off, like the last
couple of weeks were so fucking mad. But the one that was in our
reviews episode that we would encourage you to go out and listen to today comes
from Enforced and that's War Remains. That's the really just violent, full on
crossover thrash ripper Elsewhere Craid La Filfare putting out Trouble and their Double Lives.
This was their live album. They've got coming out, but also had us
couple of original studio tracks on it and we covered a single and it was
really good, So I will be certainly checking that out elsewhere. Danger Face
be Damned, this is a pretty cool one. I mean, I've not
heard anything from this yet, but danger Face were a Boundy Potter record a
few years ago that I believe we reviewed in the podcast. It was a
really good like I think from the UK kind of but it certainly it sounds
like UK punk music from sort of the early twenty tens and stuff like that.
If you're into you feed the Rhinos and that kind of business. That
was a very enjoyable record that they put out, so I'm excited to see
them following that up elsewhere The Damned releasing Darkerdelic, which is such a bad
name for an album title. But I've seen fucking most of the songs of
this live. That was most of their fucking settlers when I saw them the
other other week. But I'll check out the rest of regardless. Crown the
Empire, Dog Sam Any any interesting Crown the Empire these days? No come
to me for that. I know I like Ship Metal Corps sometimes, but
come on, standards just like the roster every now and then Vamachara No Roses
on my grave that has all the closed casket fans out there. It's a
big day for men that Ryan Defreateus likes. Matt Kerrikes you look like a
stranger. He's the guy from Citizen right. Yes, yes, yeah,
this is new solo album. And also Dave House drive it like it's stolen
in some similar kind of terrain there. And then as we move into extreme
metal, the one I would shout out is a man called Lunar Chamber and
Shambalock Vibrations Um This They put out a single like a few days ago,
and it's really good, like highly progressive techy, but very like mystical and
kind of unsettling over clinical death metal. To me, it reminds me of
like Catialist and stuff like that that I'm really into crazy bass playing, you
know, eerie chanting and stuff. That will probably be the extreme metal one
to go to this time around. Else will also have austere though Corrosion of
Hearts Depressive black Metal Bad is their third record, and I could like thirteen
fourteen years I think, so I thought it'd be worth throwing that one in
there, and on the UK front in the kind of grindy area we got
Wallowing and Earth Reaper and out on Dying Victims productions there is Lucifuge and Monoliths
of Wrath which doesn't sound like Danzig but does in fact sound like kind of
black speed metal. And then an EP which I guess I'll be curious to
see how much this takes off this weekend Swollen Teeth, a self titled EP
who were a new sort of again new metally type band, but there's involvement
from Ross Robinson and Sid Wilson I think as well in the kind of involved
in some degree of production or something going on there, So we'll see how
far that one goes EP from then Swollen Teeth and that is it. Thank
you for listening. We'll goat with more hyperblast before you know it, and
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you for your supports and being with us as always weep and that's not at
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