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he's Jagan's as Scott our guy Henry and today welcome to Monday. Oh
what's a fast paced game here? Welcome to the Big twelve. Well yeah,
welcome to Big twelve officially. Did you get your T shirt yet?
No? No, not yet. I you know, we surely got to
be out there. I think I think for my service to the PAC twelve
over all these years, I deserve some Big twelve gear, just because what
do you mean, just all those years that I worked with the Pac twelve
tournament. I feel like, since it's moving on, that the Big twelve
should send me a golf shop. That doesn't work that way. I know
it doesn't work that way. It doesn't think it should, but it doesn't.
The Big You can get as much Pack twelve stuff as you want,
right, well, you have got. I got more than I'm gonna use
for the rest of my life and we can put on bby put that.
Yeah, Big twelve. It's gonna say, hey, mister Gonzalz, that
was your past. Your past is your past. You'd have to get over
it. Did you see that video that the uh what some random website that
that does SEC you know football like like you know, like some of the
ones they put out of the video, it's like a four minute video what
you know, and welcome the you know, welcoming Oklahoma and Texas to the
Big twelve. It's like a cafeteria scene, so all the all the all
the SEC teams are in are in the cafeteria sitting together. Yeah, and
then like the at the very beginning of it, the an Oklahoma guy sits
next, he's gonna sit between sitting next to an Alabama guy, and the
Alabama guy pushes them away, you know, and then it's it's a pretty
it's a pretty funny. You'll find it on social media. You'll have to
you'll have to watch it. It's a it's like a four minute video.
It's pretty cool. Well, it's it's the King and Clark. It's the
King and Clark. Truman yeah, you and new Kid. You ain't gonna
be part of them. That's how it starts out. And yeah, it
starts out with you know, some of them being pissed off that they're there,
and then it's all kumbaya at the end. It's pretty funny. It
didn't mean to be a spoiler, but he knew it would end that way.
And then the U of A put out a video. Uh today,
I didn't say I saw it, but I didn't see it. Here's tere's
in my eyes, dude, here's my about the past. Yeah, but
it's all about football. But it goes back to you know, uh,
you know, getting into the Pac ten and and it just highlights from all
the way back and you know, maybe maybe go back and think about,
you know, even the early days of you know, when Arizona was in
the Pack ten. How long ago it's been and how much has happened and
how it's all over. Brian Jefferies Uh narrates a little bit. There's a
a Dick Tomy piece at the very big ginning of it, you know,
again for for for a fan like me, you know who he's been a
part of this all this time. You know, it a little a little
choking nap going on. It's pretty cool. We go look for it on
the I think it's on the football on the football Twitter. Okay, I'm
a love Twitter. And that that also is like a four minute video so
you'll have to watch it during the break or something. Okay, it was
very cool, cool, cool stuff today. But yeah, today's to day,
big change, big change. We'll see what happens, because it happens.
Were you surprised because the in nine days the Pac twelve was gonna have
the Big Big twelve was gonna have media day, and it's gonna be in
Vegas? Right? Are you surprised that it's in Vegas and it's in Vegas?
I absolutely, I'm surprised that it wouldn't be in Kansas City. So
why why are you surprised because I want to go to Vegas? Because because
they all all the media members want to go to Vegas. Yeah, sure,
no, no, But it's it's surprising because everyone when they went to
the Big twelve're thinking, oh, maybe we're gonna have the tournament, the
bestball tournament right in Vegas. That's not gonna happen. I don't think so,
right, not not initially, you know they I think then they signed
to be in the in Kansas City to like twenty thirty or something like that,
too year, something like that. Yeah, but I could see them
eventually kind of. That's why I'm surprised about this. Look. I could
see where they where They would say, you know what, Vegas would be
great, But we're not going to give them that yet, right, We're
not gonna you know, their new kids on the block. Sure, we're
not. We're not giving them, you know, the the good candy.
They got to take the bad for a while, right, No, No,
I made all the sense in the one they said not yet. You
know PAC twelve if they, if it was reversed, PAC twelve wouldn't say
we're going to Kansas City, right, you know exactly? Yeah, or
doubts it would be that that meme of the new kids coming to town.
Well, sorry, you have to take the seat in the back. Yeah,
get to you know, earn your chops, right exactly exactly. So
we'll see. It should be a lot of fun as moving forward, because
we have a month before let's not a month right for football. It starts,
wasn't It started late August the last last Saturday in August on his camp
start. Yeah, yeah, late July probably, yeah, okay, and
then it then it goes you know, hot, hot, hot, until
it's not in September, early early late August is the first game. Yeah,
so we'll see what happened. But yeah, this is where it all
flips over the you know, the page is turned. Arizona's in the Big
twelve. Now Oklahoma and and and uh Texas are in the SEC. Callan
Stafford in the ACC, and those other schools are in the in the Big
ten. It's it's all different today. Yeah, yeah, so much has
changed, I mean the whole I'm sure your life has changed a number of
times. Given you used to be a sports writer and then you went to
the PR area and then you continue to do other things, and here you
are doing other things. I got here in eighty seven, you know,
this young sports writer. Think can I be here for three years and then
leave? Right? And then I fell in love with the place, so
I stayed. And it was the early and still ten years into the PAC
ten packed ten right print ten and uh, so much has changed. I
mean people are getting paid now more than they deserve. Probably yeah, yeah,
no, you know again going back, I mean, you know I
was, Uh, I was just out of high school when when they you
know, the first year in the seventy eight and seventy eight, Uh,
I actually have a sophomore in uh uh yeah, it's a sophomore in high
school college when you know the first year the back then and you know that
very first year, you know, we went we took a road trip and
went to see Arizona play UCLA football, you know, and that was just
the coolest thing. Right We're playing u C. L A. And not
only we're not just playing them, you know from out of the wat we're
you know, we're in their league. And it was just coole as hell.
So I don't I don't think Maybe I don't know, Henry, because
you're young and you're having experienced this, because I think we're old. That's
not gonna happen in basket. It's not gonna happen in football for us.
Oh they're playing, Yeah, they're playing you know who are they gonna play?
Yeah? That gives you the jew since is now but in basketball it
is, yeah, in in football and back in any sport. Are you
how are you looking at this change? Because when we're young. We're kind
of like, okay, cool, cool cool? Is it gonna be okay,
cool cool for you. I'm definitely gonna miss the certain Pac twelve matchups
like U C, l A and that, But like in basket, I
think I'm more excited for the basketball matchups than the football. Just like Kansas,
Baylor, Iowa State, all these teams are really good at basketball and
football. I mean they're all right. So yeah, so they're gonna cheat
you out of a Kansas meeting? Are you? Is this your final year?
Yeah? Okay, so you missed that. But you know what,
we didn't talk about this Jay when we had uh share share Oh yeah,
can you speak? Yeah, and you would ask him, I don't think
we've talked about this, and we asked him, okay here, we're a
bit surprised that this is not happening, and he says, not over here,
no big deal to us. Yeah, we had we play a lot
of good games. Arizona's just another one, right see. And that's what
we before we had him on, we predicted that that was probably gonna be
the reactions, Like, guys, we have games like this all the time.
It's you know, it's no big deal to us. And I tried
to explain to him and said, this is a big deal to us because
we don't have big games like this all the time. You know, we
we treasured get bringing in U Kansas or over the past years of Michigan or
you know, Alabama or or Duke but whoever. Doesn't that tell you the
difference between the two programs between the two conferences for sure? You know.
Now again you know Kansas had to deal with Oklahoma and Texas all those times.
But they they, like you know, like Arizona, get their asses
kicked by them all the time. So you know, maybe they're happy they're
gone, right, So I don't know, it's yeah, it's different because
again to me, you know, at that time going into the Pac ten,
I you know, I know Washington was pretty good, but but they
weren't what they had became, you know in the late eighties and early nineties.
So the whole thing was about getting to play USC and Ucla in football
and gating to play Ucla and basketball. That was that that was the where
the excitement was about going into the Pac ten. Yeah, I'm sure that
you uh would agree with me that that once they saw that Oklahoma and Texas
were leaving. There was a side of relief and like like there was one
that was going into them thinking we have a better chance of winning there that
they have said the same thing, we have a better chance of winning it
now right right and there I guarantee you. I mean, well, you
know, they think, you know, having those four schools that you know,
helps the league and stuff like that. They're not afraid of any of
any of the four schools in any of the sports, right even Arizona coming
in basketball? Yeah? Maybe, Uh, who's who's not very good in
basketball in the Big twelve? Oh god, I don't know West Virginia right
now. No, they're pretty good West Virginia now, they're all decent,
right yeah, So again, none of them are going to be afraid of
her. They're saying, bring it, come on over, you know,
and and and the same thing. In football, None of that. None
of the schools they're saying own out here comes Arizona, ACU, Colorado,
and Utah. None of them are saying that. No. I think that
Utah right now as they see it coming in that they're thinking Utah might be
tough. Utah is gonna be tough. But we can you know, we
can take it. They're they're the Pac twelve. We can take no,
and for that reason through the soft Pac twelve. But they're not the soft
pack twelve. Utah. Utah is the mean kid on the block and has
been for a while. Even Washington stopped being the you know what we saw
in the early nineties with guys like Steve im and then some of those players.
Even Washington, you know, yes, they got to the National Championship
game, but not because they were some monster defensive team that beat the living
crap out of you week in and week out. They were just good.
Yeah. Right, uh And and so you know, there's not anybody that
they're that that any of the Big twelve schools are gonna fear coming into the
league. It's more schools and it's gonna make the conference probably more interesting.
But I just don't think that they the Big twelve is shaking in its boots
over anybody that's coming over. No, it's gonna and it's gonna be a
nice balance, right except for you don't get to see Kansas twice in basketball.
Yeah eventually. Well, and the thing is that people gotta remember,
Okay, we're in their league. Now we're gonna see them at least once
every year, sometimes twice. So okay, it does it suck that we
don't get them twice in the first season, you know, but there's still
some good games coming to town. So oh yeah, you know, I
mean, I mean, it's gonna be fun going into the arena every every
conference game. It is. I mean, there isn't a team that you
go, we can kick your ass, right right, you know, every
game is going to be like, okay, you know we got to be
you know, you know, you take a game off, you're gonna lose.
And there were times in the in the Big twelve, in the Pac
twelve that you could take a game off and still beat somebody by twenty right,
right, So we'll see. I mean, you probably have a major
bet for eight eight or better, right. I haven't decided if I'm going
to Steve. Uh, it's gonna be tough. I think here, here's
here's why. Here's why. Because of the half, there's no hook on
it. I think if it was it was eight and a half, I
might take the under, and if it was seven and a half, I
definitely take the it's sitting on eight. You know, you gotta get nine
to win. I don't know that I want to do that. It includes
the bowl game, right, no regular season, regular season wins. Yeah,
it won't be a bet. It shouldn't be a bet. Yeah,
because it was at seven and a half. I want yeah, and I'm
and I'm I saw it at seven and a half one day during the show,
and I'm mad at myself for not taking it. I should have taken
it right then and there, but I didn't. But so I'm gonna it's
just not a just not a good number. I don't I don't feel good
enough. Yeah, well, mostly because to win to win the Kansas State
will be the game that we have to watch to see if we can get
there, right the one there, they're underdogs by seven and a half point.
I'm putting that. I'm putting that as a loss. Okay, if
we were to go through the schedule right now, I'm marking that game as
a loss because it's only the third game, you know, with the new
it's on the road, with the new coaching staff. You know, if
they win, great, you know, then expectations go through the roof.
If they lose, well, okay, they lost, but I'm not I'm
not marking that. I'm marking that down today as probably a loss one because
I don't want to get to that game and if they lose, be really
pissed off about it. Now, if they lose it like they lost in
Mississippi State last year with fafe To throwing four interceptions and in his first four
passes or something like that, then I'm gonna be Then I'm gonna be pissed.
But you know, if they go in play a good game and get
beat I want what's to be upset about there. They're a good team and
you're at their place. Okay, So this first segment is almost over,
just real quick. We're not gonna have it for a guest in the first
hour. We've been searching for a lot. We did get one for the
second hour. Fred Harvey will be our guest, talking a lot about the
Olympics and some of the people from u of A or connections to the U
A in the Paris s game, right right, So he's becoming he'll be
coming back from Eugene. That's where he's at right now. So he's going
to catch a plane and we have them for a few minutes and then we'll
take calls. We have all the rest of the day at this hour.
The rest of this hour you can take your calls and Henry of course at
the beginning of next hour for breaking you. I know Arizona fan is thinking
take the over on eight wins. I'd love to hear what some people have
to say about that. Yeah, yeah, okay, because that's the that's
the that's the topic of the of the summer for us. How many wins
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Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to joining the ball here Fox
Sports fourteen fifty punch Steve j. We have fifteen minutes, Henry watching the
phone, so just give us a quick call. Five seventy four forty.
We love to hear you. What was your question about wins? Eight eight
wins? What would people do? What will people do? You know?
I mean the Jake Fishers and those guys. They're going over, right,
they're going over. But okay, here here's a question. And maybe I'm
asking the wrong person because you really don't care, but I care for something.
Listen, Okay, Arizona goes eight and four in the conference. Maybe
is a game short of the playoff? Is that? Is that? Yes?
Is that is that a success? Will Pete? Will fans say you
did good? Yes? Well, I think I think eighty percent of them
will, because you know, there are some of them are saying, well,
it's a drop from last year. Blah blah blah, there's too many
factors. There's a new coaching system, right, there's a new league you
have to play. Are you good enough? Probably? There's always a butt
though, there's a lot of un Yeah, right, so yes, I
care, I care. Okay, I take a stat aitude, but okay,
no, no, no, but I get what you're saying out here.
For a reason, I do care. I wouldn't drive all the way
over here this year. No, No, I agree with you. Aiden
seven and five. I think I think seven and I think seven and five
fans are gonna go, what the hell? Yeah? What? Who do
we hire? The right guy? Right? Right? Yeah? He you
know he had all this talent and you know he didn't get there with it?
Right, But eight and four in the new league? Way, hold
on, I'm not a good looking dude. But if I go eight and
four in life, I'll take it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Don't you have to realize who you are in Arizona football? Yes,
there was three years ago you would you have signed up for this? And
there's perspective with that too, And there you go, right, three four
years ago you're thinking of god, I just want to win some games.
Are they going to be good again? Right? You know? So Knya,
here you are. Do you want to be better? Yes? Is
it possible? Yes? But there is the questions, yeah, yeah,
there are there are some questions. And lo, what about your group,
your group that you hang with. You know, I'm not your tester,
but I think at fours, yeah, pretty good. I think today they
go, okay, that'd be okay, right. I think they're hoping for
nine. You know, I think they're thinking Arizona should get nothing. Let's
go through this real quick. Let's go through that schedule just because we have
time and we're none all right, let me talk okay, let me let
me call up the schedule real fast, just to be realized. You know,
way Vegas doesn't lose for a reason, right, And they're saying eight
if it's saying four Okay, right, they're saying eight, it's a it's
a draw, and if it goes nine, you know they you know,
I think more people will take the under than the over, sure, right,
because it's Arizona. Okay, all right, So okay, So here
we go New Mexico opener, win NAU win two. Okay, so that
no bye week and they play Kansas State on Friday night. Okay, so
let's too one. Okay, I'm gonna go lost there at Utah and two
two and two, I agree with you, Okay. Then Texas Tech comes
to town, so three and two? Okay, Jay, this is and
this is the problem with with Tucson sports fans. I'm sure there's some geeks
stuff out there, like to Henry's the world who know more about? No?
No, who know about stuff that we don't know about that because we're
basically this is it sexist tech? Right, honestly, what do we?
I think they should beat Texas Tech? Okay? So three, three and
two died? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, right, it's like
the Florida International. What the hell did we know? And all of a
sudden in the final four, right, Okay, Then they go to b
Yu. Okay, I don't even know how b YU did last They're not
supposed to be good. There's I think they had them at four wins this
year, So let's go four and two. They have them predicted at four
and eight. Okay, but that was a second. I just want to
see for myself what they did last year. Okay, last year they were
five and seven last year. Oh okay, I'll mark that as a win.
So for four and two, they're four and two Colorado here. For
I'm going to win? Is that six and two, five and two,
five and two, five and West Virginia here, six and two, six
and two at Central Florida. I don't know. I don't know. Let
me see me six and two, six and two right now, right,
yeah, let's see again a team that I know nothing about. I don't
know how they how they did last year. I'm looking that up as we
speak, and I have them at I mean, they think they were six
and seven last year. So six and six lost a Bowl game to he
to Georgia Tech. Okay, so we were five and two now, so
yeah, five and two, okay, So that's another one of those iffy
games. Five and two. I think we're six and two. Let's see,
oh, four two, three, four five, or they're six and
two before this game, before this game six and two, Henry, I
just you talked about it last week, the time zone. I think that'll
be a big okay, good, good, good point. So let's have
them a lost just because Okay, six and three and three, so that's
nine games and we got three more Houston here, let's go within seven and
seven and seven and three at TCU seven and three, then they have issue
and then a SU so they're seven and three. They split those two their
eight four. That's why it's eight. Yeah. Yeah, So so they
get if they get TCU or they get Central Florida, Okay or Kansas State,
one of those three, then they're then they're nine win team. But
then but remind you, let me remind you, always loses when that's gonna
bring you back down to something. He wins is perfect. But they did
not lose one. They weren't supposed to be last year. There are three
losses were all losses that you know. They lost to UH, they lost
to Washington, they lost to USC and they lost to Mississippi State. In
the end, Mississippi State was the game they should have won, but it
was on the road. You know, you're not gonna mark that down as
a win. So they the ten games they won, they either were supposed
to win or weren't supposed to win and won them anyways. And you know,
Washington State, Oregon State, UH and uh and uh Utah come to
mind, although Utah came in without their quarterback and stuff, so right,
and that was their given because you you didn't believe it either until yeah,
it was until that. Yeah, it took. It took to that game
for me to believe that Arizona was actually pretty good, which was late late
in the year. Again that the Arizona fan in me saying, we can't
possibly be this good, right but the but they were ten and three beat
Oklahoma, So I don't. I don't unless unless they moved that line to
soe and a half. I wun't looking at this now because you have to
struggle to get even you have to truggle just to get to the eight.
See that's what that That's what I'm saying because I feel like, yeah,
but if you get to the eight, you don't lose, Okay, Okay,
I don't lose. Sitting on this chair. I know. But but
what I'm saying is that if it was yeah, for seven and a half,
you got to you win, But if it at eight, I'm not
taking it at eight. I'm not taking eight and a half, right right,
I'm not betting. I'm not betting the under or the over eight two
to one, two to one. Uh yeah, do that to you if
yeah, if I got plus two hundred on that, I do that.
Let me look at that too, because I let's see, on the eight
wins, they're plus one oh five, so leave a little bit over even
money, yea even money, but under eight their minus one twenty five,
so they're leaning. The reaction is actually leaning higher. Right, Yeah,
I wouldn't touch it. It's not touchable, not if you want to just
try to. You're betting that just to bet it, just to get your
juice, as you say, and then break even or do you lose a
big well, then you're spending ten dollars to one hundred to think, are
you? I don't know, I don't know. I don't die much because
I'm I'm only knowing pushes. You don't want to get your parlay right and
you get your money back because it's a parlay, So I don't I don't
know. Let's take this call. High are on the air and eye on
the ball. Hey guys, Vic the Vic. Wow, I'm telling you
what you're you're not throwing in there and Vegas ain't throwing in there as team
Noah brother true true, But no, I don't know. I think they've
got to be having that factor in and we don't know how how healthy the
wide receiver is going to be. He's all right. I saw him at
a picture in the weight room and he's walking. He don't have that boot
on no more. So how do you know he's walking without that? But
did you do you have a picture? None of you? Yeah there was
there was a picture, But I mean I I yeah, Okay, he's
gonna be fine. Okay, So are you going over eight? You?
You guys even you Jay, come on, man, team no heat?
He just has that it man. So Vic, are you're gonna spit up?
No, not that you do this, because I don't know if you
do or not. You would put the hundred on over eight, over nine
and or even ten. They're there right now. Mark it down double or
nothing. On that state day, Steve, I owe you. Yeah,
but they're gonna beat Central Florida and they're gonna beat Kansas State. No,
I don't. I want to eat the steak dinner. I want to I'm
not gonna bet double or nothing? Are we? Where are you taking me?
Tal? You that that factor he's gonna go into Kansas State and he's
gonna Okay, Vic, you talked me into it. Oh No, there's
a reason why he takes like thirty listens to people like you. No,
I'm telling you, and we we have not had a Nick guy for a
long long time, not in not in who, not in football, and
then we got him. Now all right, Vic, I just hit send.
Okay, Vick, he got him Vic November fifteenth, Damn, Vic,
I listened to you. I'm telling you, man, they're just those
guys that those you know, and there's very few of you count them month
you know, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Magic Johnson, Michael Wait,
wait, okay, I get it. Hold on that. We gotta losing
four. We got a losing four. Give him the four that he thinks
you're gonna win. Okay, okay, the four the four losses we picked
for Kansas State, Central Florida TCU and Utah. Yeah, he's going there
to He's going to go in there to Kansas State and win, and then
they're gonna beat Central Florida and they probably can beat pc U. Man.
Man, now you're talking twelve, I mean eleven. Now you're talking eleven.
Is he has that Brady factor, that Montaa factor that masonson. See
now you're now you're talking eleven probably winning the league or at least being the
number one seed in the league and going into the playoffs. I feel so
strong about that kid. He's like Sean atleott Or. I'm telling you he's
got that yet, and maybe we haven't had it for a long time.
Okay, I'm writing the VIC train. Okay, so let me ask you,
well, we have a couple of minutes. Uh you you've paid attention
to Orizonal Football forever. In the Grant scheme of UA quarterbacks, I know
he's got to simple size of ten twelve games. Yeah, whatever, where
does he land? Where does he land? Oh my gosh, him and
team are going to go in there on the history as today today. I'm
team to me, he's gonna be the best player ever. Yes, but
with the quarterback Noah in terms of the past, the past quarterbacks, what
does he rank? Shoots got to be top five? Who else is up
there? Well, you got to you got Nick Foles, Yeah, and
then you kind and then well then you got a bunch of guys that could
have been great. But along the way, you know, chingered it up.
You know, remember on Solomon after Stretchman year, we thought, we
thought that guy, right, we thought that guy is going to be here
and he's gonna be the greatest quarterback ever. And then he would you know,
he got injured and got his head kicked in and you know, and
then he was gone. Khalil Tate was a flash, like you know,
I mean, just a complete flash for four games, four or five games.
I'm reminded that that year after all, you know, the Colorado and
Washington State and that stretch of four games they lost fash that year. I
remember, yeah, right, So he's he's been he's gonna be up there,
top three, top four. I haven't been long enough yet. He's
gonna really put it together. He could he could become, could become he's
on he's on a path to become. And again eight games, nine games,
the best quarterback Arizona's ever had. But you have to temper that with
the fact that the best quarterback Arizona has ever had never won a championship,
right. So yeah, so you know you have to temper the thinking on
that. So you know, there's and as in there's just not a lot
of competition there. So if he if he goes off and they have another
ten or eleven wins season, twelve wins with a bowl game or whatever,
you know, now you get to talking and then he's got one more year
after that, and then you see where he winds up today. That is
the top five quarterback certainly had one of the top five seasons in Arizona history.
And that was nine games. That was three games in right, four
games in right. So, uh, you know I think that, well
we're rains to be seen, Vic, but I like, you know,
I like your thinking on that and just his and his off the field,
Yeah all that, No, that's part of it. I mean obviously,
because he's off the field helps who is on the field. Yeah. Yeah,
we got to go, Thank you, Vic. Okay, you guys
take care. All right, We're gonna take our break word and come back.
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Never stops all it's gonna stop. Thursday Friday, taking Thursday right, Thursday
day off, Thursday, Fourth of July Friday, fifthly because because Steve is
gonna go slack. So I'm gonna slack. Yes, yes, I'm gonna
slack for fourth of July. You do what you do. Anything cool on
fourth of July. We used to with the kids, and then the kids
are gone, so no, not so much anymore. We go up to
Mount Lemon. Oh, yeah, nice and cool, very well, and
not just that. There's a there's a little parade up there that's pretty cool.
So there's people up there, dogs and it's just it's it's like a
fifteen minute parade. It's like their fire trucks and there's a few, uh
people who march and stuffy just wave. Got the parade wave. You know,
there's usually a a what do you call it, a bagpipe, you
know, whatever they're called, you know, the bagpipes, and a couple
of bands maybe, and you know, people just waving and throwing candy at
you. And yeah, it's a lot of fun, all right. So
I just just to let people know there are places that you can still get
Arizona over seven and a half wins bat MGM fan dual Bally's a few of
those. So, uh, if you're if you're if you're inclined to wager
on the win total for Arizona, you can do better than eight, which
I wish I chopped around a little bit before I did that, but okay,
I didn't. So I got the eight. On draft games, Yeah,
that's gonna be a tough game to win. But but you took the
advice of Vic. Vic's never been wrong. I know, I'm Vic,
I love you, man, I'm on it, but I'm talking like that.
I'm pointing you out to my wife. If I don't, if I
don't hit that, you realize he owes me to stay dinner. So he's
been wrong with Okay, all right, okay, so yeah, so you
know again, if you've you've got some thoughts on this, would love,
would love to hear those again. The four losses we picked again were Kansas
State, Central, Florida, Utah TCU. Yeah, all winnable games.
I think the TCU could go either way. All winnable games. And who
knows about Kansas State. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. There's
it's yeah, very doable. Could be ten, ten and two, yeah,
it's ten and two. Wow. Yeah wow, first year, first
year, you know, right, you know, we'll see and you know
what, you know, we're gonna they're gonna start camp. We might go
with somebody to practice and stuff, but we're not gonna know, squaw.
No, you don't know until they get to Kansas State. Right, We're
not gonna know anything about this team until it gets unless they do something stupid
like you know, almost get beat or get beat by you know, like
saying New New Mexico comes and plays them tough, but they're like I think
I saw thirty and a half point lying on that game. Yeah, wow,
back, I can see what it is right now. But you know,
you know, if they if they if New Mexico comes in here,
it's a game in the fourth quarter, and then you're gonna go, WHOA,
what's what's going on? You might chalk it up to again, a
first game under under uh, what's his name, Brent Brannan, We might
chalk it up to that. So, uh, you know, I don't
know, we'll see, but I think, yeah, there's still thirty and
a half on DraftKings minus one ten four from New Mexico. Yeah, that's
a lot of points, some fun games in that first week l s u
usc USC but that's a that's in Vegas. Oh when you imagine all this
baton rouge people going to somebody's gonna die. You gonna call let's take this
call. Hi, you're on the Aaron eye on the ball. How's it
going today? What's up, Brian? Well, just you know, I
think eight's about as good as a guess as you're gonna get right now.
Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you know. I mean
it's it's I mean, the Central Florida one I'm not too sure about.
I would be worried. I be worried about Houston. Guy, have no
idea what they're gonna be like, you know, because we never had a
chance to see any of these teams, right right, you know, we
really know anything about them. And a big piece of this is that there's
gotta be a lot of people at the home games, right, they gotta
you know, they got to create some atmosphere. They got to make it
hard to win because I think we have them winning all the home games,
Steve right, right, So we haven't winning all the home games. So
you go on the road, you got it. You're gonna have to win
a couple on the road. Well, let's see, you know, let's
see what happens. But uh, you know, well I think one problem
to people looking at okay, we can get in, that we can get
in that top twelve, Well, people are gonna have to realize too that
the SEC picked up two pre quality teams. Yeah that you know, don't
be surprised that the SEC and the Big ten get eight of those twelve spots.
Well I won't be surprised at all. In fact, I think that's
the expectation that that that they'll get eight. You know, the Big twelve
will get two, the A C C will get to Well, then who's
the big team yeah, and the a CC will get to oh no,
five has to go win seven. They're gonna get seven. They're gonna get
seven, right, they're gonna get seven of them, all right, and
you're gonna have to look at Notre Dame one of those teams if they're good,
that they're gonna get one of those twelve spots, right right. No,
I hear you, I hear you. And part of it will depend
on how good, you know, the rest of the league is, and
if the if the champion and the second place team, you know, the
second place team is the second place team is nine and three, and then
you know they go in and lose the you know, lose the conference championship
and their nine and four, you're not getting in. You know, the
second place team has to have you know, ten wins, eleven wins or
whatever, or the loser of the conference championship game has to have ten or
eleven wins to have a realistic shot of getting in the playoffs, right,
you know, I think they can get there, but it's you know,
it's just so many unknowns. We don't know anything about these teams. Yeah,
No, and that's it, And I think that's I kind of think
that's what's gonna be fun about it. It's like, Okay, we think
we can win this game, but let's see what happens. But I'm still
going to miss the pack. Yeah, of course we are. Of course
we are. Yeah, it was it was always fun. Today. Yeah,
bad day today it is. It's a it's a tough day, but
it's a tough day. When I was when I was scrolling through my uh
really, my my TV and uh I just stopped at the PAC twelve channel
to see what was up, and there was a thing that says we are
no longer on the air. You guys, it's a tough day to me.
It's called Monday. What are you talking about? Steve? Well,
Steve again seems such a downer about everything anyway, are you guys peppy baby?
Let's go Steve. We've lost a piece of ourselves today. Where does
that piece come from? The tone? Hey, don't worry about three weeks
Teams of the season is going to be the usual down No, you guys
are more thing somebody that just is gone. Your girlfriend left you, man,
let's move on. You're not gonna tell me that you never felt bad
after a breakup. I have to think about it. No, I of
course, of course, but you know what that's gone, that's in the
review remeter. We're gonna look at he there's another bus coming waits, there's
another bus. Let me jump in front of it and get h Brian,
come on, Brian, I know you have a little Steve and you you
have a you know, I still know that during this season you will become
mister Downer again, no doubt. You're up about everything, and it won't
take very long. You'd be back to the way you've always been. Oh
then realistic, yes, thank you, Brian. I'm really not realistic.
You will find you will find a negative about anything. No, that's not
you're misread You misread me, all you guys misreading me. Hey, just
don't create a fake Facebook page and send me a note. It's a Facebook
pigs. Thank you, Brian. Okay, God, I gotta change my
image, but it's gonna take forever. Someone needs to be realistic in this
room. Someone needs to tell the kids, no, cool dad doesn't go
to mom. Sure go ahead, play with the Knights, go ahead?
Sure, Uh, Steve, it's a book. I mean I'm past it.
I mean a gap this morning and go, oh man, I hate
today. But you know, I was sitting I was sitting there checking things
out, and then I saw the video and I'm like, uh, this
is really it. This is the day, the day another realistic hope.
Higher on the air and nine on the ball. Hey, how you guys
doing. Hey, Steve's and myself are no more downers than than Jay's a
throwing the water on betting of death when it comes to betting upper. Yeah,
he's the upper. We're not the We're just more realistic coward. Right.
Yeah. It's like, I'm not one to ask about the football team.
I can't care less, but I want to steer it towards baseball.
And most of the questions are for j because he's mister Baseball. Okay,
okay, no, it's it's all good. You know, my team has
the Japanese pitcher that's actually good and not paying a lot for him. But
they're but they're so brutal my team and anyway, but I want to know,
the whole Major leagues are not batting good, you know what I mean,
They're low the average, the batting average, it's terrible. Joy or
Aaron Judge, Well, well again, it's it's become you know, somebody
made a comment or I saw I saw a tweet and it was by George
Brett, and somebody sent it to me who said that, you know,
when you know, when I was hitting, and when I teach people to
hit, I teach them to swing level across home late because your bat is
in the zone longer and you have a better chance of hitting the ball.
And then somebody coming to me and says, well, that's how you hit
singles, and I'm like, okay. They said, well that's not that's
not how they're playing anymore. And and then and that's true because when you
were when you play ball, when you were a kid, how many times
did your coach tell you don't uppercut? Don't uppercut? Right, And that's
how everybody swings it today, right, That's how everbody swings for launch angle
and all that stuff. That's how they swing, and that's why they're striking
out. And that's why they're not, you know, the batting averages are
lower and stuff like that, because they're not out there trying to hit singles.
Were grounding out right, they're not. They're not going through or you'd
hit down on the ball and a little bit down on the ball, you're
not gonna pop it up. You might ground out. Yeah, but you
know, George Burrow was one of the greatest hitters ever. He said something
like I've got thirty four thirty four hundred hits to tell you. I'm right.
Yeah, same thing. Yeah, I don't know. Everybody's trying to
change this game. It used to be a pretty good game. It was
fun. It's fun. But again, you know, these guys like Henry
over here just no matter who your team is. Yeah, these guys like
Henry over here just loved the long ball. And that's all you get.
Man, you got it. You gotta string some hits together. That's just
how you have to do it. And stolen bases. Yeah, that's the
whole regular game. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. Thanks
sold for the call. Okay, we'll talk to you guys later. So,
so everyone time, This is a conversation I heard this weekend. I
think, you know, everyone's kind of I don't know everyone. A lot
of people are applotting that it's a quick game now, right right, you
pay fifty dollars to the game. I'm not too sure that quick game is
cool because you want to you're spending fifty bucks. You kind of enjoy the
game too. At sixty five years old, I like the faster game.
When I was twenty five and going to a Dodger game and it ended in
two hours, I'd be upset. Yeah, right, So if you know,
if you're you know, look, I'm gonna miss if it goes if
it goes three hours, I'm gonna miss more of the game because I'm gonna
go to the bathroom more. Okay, sixty five, right, sixty five?
Right, Well, I keep saying I'm sixty five, not sixty five.
I'm sixty four. But you know, I like the quicker game.
I like the two and a half hour game. Now, I like the
two and a half hour game when I'm at home because it doesn't take up
the whole night. Those three plus hour games, man, those are hard.
Those were hard to sit through. I'd come and go from a game
that was on TV, you know, a bunch because you know, you
just can't sit there and watch it. I mean, we put on that,
we put on that that that game on Sunday, and when eleven Indians
it still wasn't three hours. So you we're talking about Yeah, football three
hours, three change great for me. I'm sure the restroom is busy.
The restroom is busy, you know. And you know, I like the
I like the shorter game and just just the not so much sitting around,
you know, watching the guy pull his gloves on and off, you know,
between every pitch. Remember it was no mar Garcia par I remember that
guy, yeah, you know, and then it was just then there was
the guy they used to call the human rain delay, Mike Hargrove, Remember
him with the Indians. They used to call him the human rain delay.
Uh, you know that that was not fun to watch. So no,
I like, I like where we are with all of that, with all
of that stuff, and I don't like in the end in an NBA game
it takes a half an hour to play the last three minutes of a game.
Well it's still two hours. It's a little overchanged ten two hours and
ten minutes, he think, so, yes, yeah, most of the
time really to fifteen ye because of the TV. Yeah, you have to
be it's like this weekend. Are you don't talking about Kayt and Clark this
week? You think, okay, I'll leave it alone. Oh we're talking
about because we gotta get it. Well, we're gonna do a shortened version
actually of a breaking news. We've got to get out of here. We've
got to get Fred Harvey right at four fifteen. Yeah, all right,
But anyways, I you know, I'm okay with it, but I could
see somebody like you know, who can sit there comfortably for three hours,
say that sucked that this game went two hours and fifteen minutes. Yeah,
especially I used to think that. Yeah, well, I mean, really,
I to spend good money and you want to spend some time with I
mean, I went to I went to LA and one of the highlights is
going to a Dodger game. And I go to this game and it was
the Dodgers and the Cardinals and it went one fifty five. It was you
know, it was like a three to one game when one fifty five,
and I was pissed. How old were you in my twenties that sense?
Yeah, yeah, I was upset with that. Then you have to do
two hours trying to get out of the state. Well well yeah, I
mean that was all a part of it, right, You know, when
you go Dodger Stadium, you just know that's a part of it. We
should just put a nice chest of refreshments in the trunk of the car and
hang out in the parking lot till a clear not to go, and then
you drove home. What kind of refreshments were there? Just so? Does
it? Maybe a beer too? Okay? We were responsible, we were
responsible adults not okay, the driver was response okay, but it makes it's
always you don't have to tell me. You can say, yeah, I
agree with guys. Let's do it. I mean we did. Would would
would take a nice chest of beer, would as uh. We'd always park
over against the rail, against the railing that overlooks the city great view,
would back it in and would just sit there on on the on the guardrail
and and you know, listen to the post game show and have fun.
Well, everybody cleared out, and then about probably an hour later, we'd
jump in the car and leave. Okay with that note, we'll take our
break, go to Henry on the other side for a few minutes, and
then get a hold of Fred Harvey. All right, sounds great.