Simple questions for one hundred people. Welcome to the experiment. I'm Bill Correll,
and this is my investigation. I'm researching to gather data from one hundred
beautiful human beings for the sole purpose to see what actually happens across the interviews.
Now, the questions are all fixed and the interviews will remain consistent with
the variable being the actual participants themselves and the answers. So it's as if
I'm having you, Jason, come sit on my porch to share your thoughts
so that I can learn about people. Looking forward to what I'm going to
learn when we're done with this. But you know, pretty interested in the
folks and your particular story, so it's my distinct pleasure to well, hang
on. What is your full name? So this is this is a great
way of starting the interview. My full name is Jason Wendroff Ronicky. I
was born Jason Wendroff, but then when I got married to my wife,
I actually took her last name. So you both are hyphenated last names,
same hyphenated name. Yep. That's a that's a custom that got started back
in the olden days, you know, back when I was probably seventeen,
eighteen years old. So do you have a middle name. Stuart is my
middle name, all right, so your whole full name would be Jason,
Stuart Wendroff Ronicky. That's kind of interesting, And what do you know about
you know where those surnames came from. Well, I know, at least
my first name came from my mother's father. His his name was Jacob,
so and that's my Hebrew name, Jacob. But my English name is a
variation on that. So that's where the Jason came from. Uh, the
Wendrofft part, well, Stuart, you know what, I'm not actually sure
where Stuart came from. The middle name Wendroff is from my dad's side,
which came from Russia, and the raw nicky part is from my wife's family,
who came from Poland. So it's like it's got this very interesting mix.
But you know of you know, Eastern European Jews, So that would
that would actually imply that there's some pretty interesting conversations going on at your home.
Yeah, that that is true. Every every family gathering, there's definitely
interesting conversations, for sure, I'm certain of that. So that's that's fascinating
and to move along with the with the questions, what's your favorite nickname that
most people don't know? Okay, so that's a good one. That's uh
I got in in college. It's a long one as well. It's called
I was called Pillsbury New Kid, and I'll have to explain about that.
So my freshman year of college, I had very long hair. It was
down on like my shoulders. Right between my freshman and sophomore year, I
got it cut and in the style of new kids on the block. So
one of my friends was like, hey, you look like a new kid
on the block. And then another one of my friends, I was much
heavier at that point, he said, yeah, but fat, like the
Pillsbury dough boy. So then that sort of got combined into Pillsbury New Kid.
That's fantastic. And has that stuck over the years or is that just
something that was kind of the past when you moved on to bigger and better
things. Well, in the group that sort of formulated it, it's sort
of stuck, but in you know, not many other people know about it
outside like that my sort of small college group. So yeah, it's always
good to have an in joke, right, Oh yeah, yeah, well,
and it also reminds me, like because of my own like health and
wellness journey, like, it just also reminds me how far I've come since
since since college. So good for you. That's that's that's wonderful to be
able to sit there and appreciate that some of us weigh a little bit more
than college. You definitely look like you're fitting in shape, So yeah,
it takes effort, though, it definitely takes effort. You. Good for
you. So when did you first notice what color hair you had? I'm
still working on that. It's gone through three shifts in my life, so
I know, I don't know if it's as noticeable if you're listening, but
I have like salting pepper hair, and so it's sort of changing from dark
to white ish. When I was probably in high school and saw some baby
pictures of myself, my hair was like a dirty blonde. So my hair
has had this progression over my life where it went from dirty blonde to very
dark brown, almost black, and now it's like in the salt and pepper
phase, and I am very grateful that it's still there. So I and
there is a spot in the back which is a little thinning. So I
have a very lifelong relationship and watching the constantly changing colors of my hair.
Yeah. Yeah. The way that male pattern baldness hits different people as myriad
as you know, is what their facial expressions are. So ye, my
best friend for over forty five years, he had the same kind of thing
happening when I met him. There was just a spot in the backyear with
his comba over. He could have played a monk, you know, in
the old Robinhood series. As time went on, they chased to the center,
and then he finally ended up shaving it all off about fifteen twenty years
ago. Yeah, my dad went like, he went pretty bald at a
fairly young age. So I'm happy to have what I got. So yeah,
So this next question, I think I'll be very interested in your answer,
But I just want to say, you come across, you know,
in our brief knowledge of each other, as somebody who's pretty on purpose in
the world. So what's your favorite thing to do to intentionally waste time?
So I have to say it's definitely television more currently there's a and actually I've
been looking at my behavior around that, around the intentionality of it, and
I need that time just to sort of for my mind, just to kind
of quiet itself down and focus on something else. So even though it's intentionally
wasting time, it's not really wasting time. But it's definitely television. I
grew up in the television generation. Right now, I'm kind of addicted to
this show called Pawn Stars. It's kind of like a modern day antique road
show, and I'm totally fascinated by all of the things that they bring in
with the history and that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's the Las Vegas,
you know, with Rick and Chumley, and yeah, you're just getting
started on it. I think there's a They have something like four or five
hundred episodes, so something stupid like that, and you'll never run out.
Okay, Yeah, over time, you'll start to have your favorites in terms
of who the guest appraisers are. And I love, yeah, I love
that they bring the same guys in for the certain things. I just think
it's fantastic. So yeah, well, so you know, leave it to
you to identify this downtime as being therapeutic in nature, and I think that
that's one of the things that our listeners, you know, can probably take
away from this that when you have to take some time out, you're still
mostly going to engage in some sort of thought process. And if it's something
that you know is both beeding you and recharging your battery along with some endorphins,
you know, then you know, by all means you know, have
a ball with it, own it, and you know, and carry it
with you with like a badge of courage, you know. And I think
though, as long as it's done like intentionally, like with that, like
okay, like you can get I can easily get lost, which I'm not
gonna, you know, say that everything is intentional, Right, I could
totally get lost on the social media and that kind of stuff. But then
like once I remember just to kind of bring myself back and be like,
okay, too much time, Let's go back to what I was doing,
I totally get it. And you know it's it's it's the noticing and becoming
mindfully aware of something where you were not present to how much time's gone by
or something like that gives you a chance to decide to continue or maybe let's
do something else, you know, that kind of deal. So this might
when what is your favorite movie to watch alone? Jason. Okay, So
I love the Saw series. Like they're very gory, they're really dark,
but I actually look at it in a very sort of yoga way, which
which people say, how do you always find like yo, because it's actually
kind of the almost the inverted yoga principles, right, like to you know,
we need to appreciate life, and in the Saw movies, you appreciate
life by by really coming face to face with death. It's gory, for
sure, it's a little disturbing at times, but I just love that idea.
I love that juxtaposition of, you know, putting someone in actual fear
of their own life to get them to live more fully. I love that.
I don't I mean, I'm kind of interpreting that as some sort of
a Shakespearean metaphor, uh, you know, representation of people getting cut up
with a saw. You know, yeah, I do think you're talking about
the Czech Texas chainsaw massacre and all of the subsequent ones after that. No,
no, no, no, no, there's a there's a specific horror
series called Saw, and and like the main villain is called Jigsaw, and
he creates a puzzle so that you either you either get out of whatever trap
he's provided for you, and you live or you or you die. Like
that's the that's more fascinating what I was interpreting. So thanks for explaining that.
And I think there's and I think there's about I forget how many moves.
I think there's about five or six of them out now. I think
they may be actually just are I think releasing a new one out pretty soon,
I think. But it's it's this really interesting series and and he creates
these elaborate like uh, puzzles, and that's why he's called Jigsaw, right.
Yeah, Well, my wife is probably up to speed on that because
she watches a lot of things that I don't. You know, I nail
out of Breaking Bad in the in the second and third season because I just
didn't see the point. It was just you know. And then the other
one that she does is she's got the walking Dead fear the walking Dead,
fear, the children of the Walking Dead's best friends for the grandchildren of the
Walking Dead, you know, all of that stuff, and apparently there's some
kind of you know, storyline that goes along with it. But it fascinates
her. And so I've now got a whole new realm and do some investigation.
Yeah, it is very gory, though I'm not gonna lie. It's
like it's like, you know, it's very gory. So along those lines,
do you have kids? No, I don't have children, all right,
so you don't have to send the children off to do something in their
rooms while you're no. But my wife, there's no way my wife would
even come close to even like, she does not do horror. She does
not do that kind of stuff. So you know, that's why that's why
it's my alone time. Well, if it's a secret, hopefully we can
keep it that way, just you and me and you know, ten thousand
of our closest friends. Right. Yeah, So this one I really want
to hear from you. If you were to have an action figure made of
you, Jason, what superpower would it have and what colors would its uniform
be? Yeah? So I thought about this, right, like about the
superpower because I'm I'm obsessed with flying, so I but it's so common,
it's such a common one for superheroes. I was like, what would be
the one? So it would definitely be flying. My superhero would definitely have
to fly. And then I was thinking of like something that's a little bit
less, you know, common and and I would say, if it were
actually to represent me, it would be really to be able to talk it
your way out of any awkward situation. So that would be the that would
be the superpower, because that's the superpower I possess. And so if it's
going to reflect me, like to really be able to talk yourself out of
some sticky situations. So to be clear on that, it would have nothing
to do with psychologically coercing someone without their complicity. It would be more about
using critical thinking and rationalization and making a good case such that you could bring
somebody else around to your way of thinking exactly. That's exactly right, right,
And the color of my uniform would be purple and gold for sure,
royal colors. I love it. Yep. So, now while you've got
these superpowers, you can not only fly, which gives you some range,
and then you've got this ability to be like, you know, the world's
best negotiated ye, how would you use that and and where would you see
the utility for it? Oh, I'd probably well, I would probably go
to the Middle East right now and kind of get that thing all sorted out,
because uh, that's been a that's been a hot bed for many,
many, many many years. And I you know, with my family,
my mom grew up in Israel and and knowing the situation a little bit,
you know, like it's that that thing needs to be to negotiated out pretty
well. So, yeah, that's what That's how I would do it.
That's where I would go without getting too deep in the weeds on that,
I completely agree with you. When people have stopped talking to each other,
that's when problems begin. As long as we're all still talking, then there's
some possibility yeap, ye know. And and it's like I see it always
like a like a sibling relationship, right, there's all there's there's fighting that
goes on, and and sometimes that fighting is not logical, it's all it's
all based on emotion. And so if we could, if we could kind
of bring some logic into the situation, I think that would really help things
out a lot. Yeah, what you're saying, Jason brings to mind the
hat feels and the McCoy's that for over one hundred years, all of the
offspring just carried for the hate, not knowing anybody in the other family,
and then finally they sat down and decided we've forgotten why what we started fighting
for, which became a real famous lyric. But the point is is that
at some point there is a historical, you know, kind of a hand
me down legacy that's not good for people. And it's certainly not good for
the people who mate well, and it doesn't represent most of the people.
It just represents a very very small, like ten percent on both sides of
the situation, and it's like it doesn't represent what really people want, like
the normal everyday person. Right, You almost never win anything by punching somebody
in the nose, you know, if you want an outcome, it takes
a little bit, a little bit more courage and belief in yourself. And
I think that would be a totally appropriate you see your superpower? Thank you?
Yeah, well done. We just we just got a power pose.
So now now we're going to go deep into Sherman set the wayback machine to
when you were five years old, Jason, and what did you want to
be when you grew up? So I wanted to fix mirrors. Mirrors broke
and they needed someone to fix them. So that you would have called me
if you had a broken mirror so I wanted to be a mirror fixer when
I was about five years old. All right, so this is this is
interesting. We're going to stay here for a minute. And what would the
mirror look like after you broke it? I think everybody who's seen a broken
mirror sometime in their life recognizes that what you end up with is a bunch
of kind of odd shaped shards. And if you were to just glue them
back together, you still have odd shaped shards that are not giving you a
contiguous, smooth reflection. Yeah. But so when when I would be done
that, I would figure out a process to make that, like to meld
those shards together so you would still get that smooth reflection. Yeah, it
may. And maybe I have to rely maybe I should go back to my
superhero and create the superpower to be able to take that glass and make it
a continuous piece, right like, So then it would feed right into my
profession as a five year old. Well, there you go. And perhaps
your negotiating skills are not just bound to human beings, they're bound to things
as well. Yes, the glass and and and mirrors and reflective surfaces.
That tree has fallen off over there and we're going to put it back together
just by talking to it, you know, well, and it kind of
like it. It always makes me like, I know, my brain works
a little bit differently than other people some you know, some I know,
all of our brains work differently in some way. But like, I guess
I must have figured that I hadn't seen anyone actually fix a mirror, so
I was it was going to be me that was going to learn to do
that thing, like and maybe even to do the impossible. Right, Like,
so I had that drive as a kid. So you're you're now thinking
that it might have been a metaphor for something else. I'm kind of curious,
was there an event or something that occurred where now suddenly after that,
fixing mirrors seemed like it was really a good thing for you to get good
at. Well, I think that I probably saw a mirror being broken and
then it just being thrown away, and I'm like, well, why,
like why we can fix other things, why can't we fix this? Yeah?
Right, Yeah, there's an intrinsic value in things that even though they're
broken, maybe they deserve a second look, Maybe they deserve some you know,
some attention and some respect. Yeah, well, just like that Japanese
art where they take a broken piece of pottery and fit and put it back
together with gold. I always forget what that's called, but you know,
so that the fixed the fixed result is even more beautiful than it was before,
you know, before it broke powerful metaphor, it's really lovely as a
matter of fact. So that's really cool. And then that whole fixing broken
mirrors things turned into some other pursuits for you. Yes, absolutely, yes,
So what's your greatest accomplishment? Would you say? So? Right now?
To date? My my greatest accomplishment is the I created a a bereave
siblings support group online and it's really within the last I think I did.
It started in twenty nineteen, and it's really being of service to people,
like just the community that has grown from that has been quite remarkable. And
so yeah, I think that would have to be my greatest accomplishment right now.
It sounds to me like something that's probably gonna compel you for the rest
of your born days. Yeah, it actually, yes, so it starts
it right like, and it's what really, Yeah, it gave me drive,
it's giving me passion. It's really what my you know what I came
here to do, and I thought it for so many years. I definitely
did, but then I just started to get out of my own way and
kind of go with the calling that was in my heart and so like a
little bit by little bit, Uh, it's it's it's really pulling me,
you know, it's pulling me in that direction. Yeah. Yeah, So
along those lines, what do you think the future enhancements to that are going
to be. Is it going to be increasing the numbers of people that you
can reach or are there some other things that are that you now know that
that need to happen and you're going to have to develop yourself to do it.
Well. Yeah, so that's what's sort of yes. So the answer
is yes, more more meetings, like not run by all by me,
but like having like a team of people running meetings. I'll have a small
team right now, which is awesome. Uh, there's I have I run
one meeting a week, but we have about on two about we have two
regular meetings every week, and then we have a bunch of monthly and by
monthly meetings. So there's about eight or nine meetings on the schedule throughout the
month, not just talking and sharing with peer support. But also we have
an art, we have a writing, we have grief specific We have a
suicide because we know how much how prevalent suicide is becoming. I know that's
one of your passions too. We have one where a sibling died from suicide.
We have that once a month. Yeah, and then we have a
relationship one so a sibling with with this partner, so that this way to
negotiate grief in relationship with one another. So you know, I want to
actually see that grow more to include include addiction and including cancer and some other
things. But what I'm realizing too is that we need a resource page that's
like a fluid resource page that people can kind of go to to get books,
and you know, there's grief jewelry, there's all kinds of stuff that
we talk about all the time, and then there should be there should be
a hub for that. So that's but it then needs money to be able
to support all this stuff. So which is why I sort of have made
it my professional journey to move into the grief world so that this way that
like everything can support one another. I think it's I think it's well blought
out and I really, I'm looking forward to seeing how this is all going
to come together for you and for the world. You know, me too,
me too. So who would you say Jason is your favorite person to
listen to? So yeah, right, and that changes for sure. Currently
right now, I've been doing a lot of work, a lot of work
with Tony Robbins and for my own personal development to get myself to the next
level so that I can be of service to more people. So he's definitely
been an inspiration. He's the one that I think. He has really good
strategies that have helped me to move it from peer support to professional and now
towards business growth. So right, so that this way, the better I
become, the more people I can serve, and the more people I can
help. But that's interesting. Are you going back to the nineteen eighties and
nineties Tony Robbins stuff or are you working with him these days currently? Currently?
Yeah, I'm part of his community right now, I've been we just
my wife and I just took a full year last year and we did his
university, his Mastery University, which you know, which covers a bunch of
his different programs including Wealth Mastery, Life Mastery, up w Unleash the Power
Within and date with Destiny. And we're still involved. My wife has been
doing some assisting for his programs, so we're staying in, staying really involved,
and you know, looking at my inner circle. I pulled some of
the people from those programs into my inner circle so that this way, you
know, we keep talking the same language. That's wonderful. So I'm old
cool. I knew Unleash the Power of in when it was giant, you
know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
and so getting his voice into your head is not something that's easy to get
out. Oh no, yeah. Well, and you and I off camera
we talked about like getting results right and doing the things that get results.
And I love how results focused he is. And it's not like this woo
woo, it's like really implementable strategies and I'm seeing the results in my life.
So you know, you know, well, using another technology to kind
of explain, you know, language comes in two kinds of flavors, and
there's a lot more, but there's at least two kinds. The first one
is talking about something where there's absolutely no chance you're going to make a difference
with it, and then they're speaking for something where you're causing something to come
into existence, you know, with the power of your language. You know,
very very, very different. And I think I think that's one of
the you know, working with Brian Tracy and some of the other things that
he did, you know, in the early days and the sales training and
all of that really made the personal development side a wide open thing for him.
And he realized that just speaking to people and having them get his CDs
and hearing each one and working on their you know, having some way to
kind of affect a state change when they wanted to or to be able to
go to a place where well, again, you know, it's a favorite
person to listen to and you don't even have to be listening to any media
in order to hear his voice. Well, and you know what you said
this and that's the state change thing is what really sort of triggered me,
because you know, I'm a yoga instructor and we're taught to be like,
you know, not high, not low, but right in the middle.
But when you're looking for success and when you're looking to push yourself to the
next level, you need to be you need to be able to activate that
that that peak state, or that beautiful state, or however you want to
language it, right, because we need that energy, We need that drive
to bring us forward. We you know, sometimes we need to take massive,
massive action and from a place of energy, not as a place of
calm and serenity, right, Like, we need to push ourselves a little
bit at times. And the ability to navigate between those for me was a
total game changer. Right. I love it. And that's neither here nor
there, but I you know, every once in a while I have to
let that out. Yeah, yeah, so please complete this sentence, Jason.
When I grow up, I'd like to still be a kid. I
have a very childlike, not not child ish, childlike heart. I always
want to be a kid. I always want to play like a kid.
I always want to see the world as a kid. I always want to
do that. So even as I adult, I still want to look at
the world with childlike eyes. Yeah. The h being willing to experience wonder
on a daily basis really does keep us in that youthful kind of inquisitive,
curious sort of state. Yeah yeah, and asking why, like why does
this happen? Why does that happen? You know? We get into our
own patterns, and if we ask those why questions like you know, why
why am I doing this? Why is it? You know? Why is
the sky blue? All of those childlike questions, right Like, we have
to keep going back to that so that we don't settle into, you know,
to these belief systems that don't serve us. Absolutely when things start looking
the same and we look to elsewhere, you know, for some sort of
a catalyst to get out of it, we don't really realize we carry that
with us every place we go, any moment at any time, and when
we start answering questions the same way every single time, it might be one
of those times when maybe some new questions are called for. Yeah, yeah,
and the better, better quality questions, right always a better question for
sure. So that's that's great. And is there any other kind of like
a representation or a manifestation of your youthfulness and having a childlike a mind in
terms of experiencing things that you can point to? Well, first of all,
like, I mean, longevity is like super important to me, like
because I want my body to be able to match my childhood spirit, right
Like, so if I want to go hiking or walking or like this morning
I went biking and just and having fun with those kinds of things. You
need to have a vehicle in which you know you're not it doesn't stop you
from doing those things. So longevity is really been a focus of mine in
my own personal life because this way I can keep doing those things with you
know, running and you know, playing without pain in the body. And
so you know, where everyone says, oh, you're gonna you know,
break down as you get older, I'm actually the opposite way. I'm actually
getting younger as I'm getting older physically. So that that's been a real big
focus of mine over there. There's been irrefutable studies done all around the world
that that's just not true. It's just being sedentary that causes you to break
down. It Ye, being active is what allows you, you know to
have a more wonderful experience as you as you age, with a lot less
experience of pain. Yep. And like if you looked at me, like
it's going back to my pills very new kid days, right, Like I
am like one hundred times more active I was even you know growing up,
you know, doing all kinds of stuff. So and as I said,
like changing that belief around getting you know, breaking down as you get older.
You know, I didn't want that to be my reality, and it's
not my reality, so you know, it's pretty cool. Yeah, that's
that's one of the neat things where you and I get to choose what we're
going to do, where most most people unfortunately don't feel like they have that
choice, mostly because they have never stopped and really questioned it. And yes,
so I think that's a great thing. So with that said, what's
the most important thing in life to you right now? Jason? I would
have to say, you know, I would have to say longevity. That's
that's the real thing that's really important to me personally. And then and then
it's talking about my grief story. Is those two kind of sort of go
hand in hand because you know, I am a bereef sibling. I lost
my sister Lauren in nineteen ninety eight, and so many bereef siblings feel like
they're forgotten mourners because they're keeping it all to themselves and because they're keeping it
all inside. And so I wanted to I want to be the model of
Okay, I'm going to tell my story. I'm going to go out there
and let people know who I am, let people know about the bereave sibling
experience, because most people are just not aware. They mean well, but
some of the things that they say are very, very isolating and a little
hurtful at times. So I want to make sure that my story gets out
there, which is one of the reasons why one why we connected, and
to kind of why I'm doing all kinds of different podcasts, all shapes and
forms so that people who are not even in the grief world get to hear
my story. So that's kind of cool, how you language that everyone's in
the grief world, but there are many of us who had to learn that.
There are conversations out how to deal with it and keep your sanity and
keep your vitality and self expression, you know, right right right. I
really like that whole part of it. And how many siblings do you have,
Well, I just have the one that passed in ninety eight, and
so now it's it's me. Yeah, yeah, so that's a huge missing
for you, you know, there's no doubt about it. And I'm looking
at reading that. Yeah, and as my parents start to get older and
you know, that kind of stuff, like you know, it would have
been the two of us, but now it's you know, it's just me
and you know, and then that puts a little bit more weight or burden
on my shoulders, you know, as they continue to age. So sure,
so what would you like to leave in the world after your life is
all done? Yeah, I'm going going to go back to this really beautiful,
like vibrant, you know, bereave sibling community where everyone feels included,
no one feels alone, uh, and people can deal with their with their
grief in a very open, expansive way. That that's sort of like you
know, talk about like once I realize my purpose, right Like, that's
what I want to leave behind that, you know, that online community where
and it's not just it right now. I mean, right now I'm just
focusing on the US and Canada, but it's really a global thing, and
I would love to see a global community kind of pulled together because I know
in other countries the sibling resources, the berief sibling resources are so few and
far between that that it needs to globalize. So that's you know, I
don't know how that's going to happen quite yet, but that's that's the that's
kind of the legacy I would love to leave. I definitely can see the
path for that that occurring and not in the distance distant future. Yeah yeah,
yeah. A. So I go to a baker and whenever I buy
twelve of something, he or she, depending on who's behind the counter,
always gives me a thirteenth. It's rolls, it's cupcakes, it's you know
whatever. So I got a baker's question for you. You got what is
the thing most people misunderstand about you? Jason? So because I am high
energy and I'm generally happy most of the time, I think people think that
I don't get sad or I have a problem with being sad or upset or
well, not upset but more sad because because I do, I am very
energetic, and but I can also be quiet too, Like I can also
sit in meditation, so that sort of sadness and quiet space I can go.
I can go to. Justice is easily. Uh I make a conscious
effort to try to change and shift it. But there are things that I
could I definitely struggle with and I need to take some time to just to
reflect on in a quiet way. Interesting. So uh So that's that's wonderful.
And I've got Is there anything else that you want to talk about today,
like how people can get in touch with you. You've mentioned some really
great outreaches in terms of sibling sibling UH support groups, brief groups. Yeah,
I made it super simple, like I'm on Also, I'm on social
media platforms. I'm I'm on Facebook, I'm on TikTok, I'm on Instagram.
So those are the three that I kind of really focus on. Uh.
You can connect with all my social media and even get on my newsletter
at Somatic Grief Therapy dot com. Uh. That's Somatic Grief Therapy all one
word dot com uh, and and it has all of my stuff there.
You can you can access the free siblings support uh peer support groups UH.
Through that through my website, you can book if you're interested in talking more
about what Somatic Grief Therapy is, which is really just a body centered way
of looking at grief because longevity is such an important part of me and what
I do. I always start with the body and keeping the body vital so
that this way our mind works better and we can we can ask those hard
questions but from a place of power and strength, and so you can you
know, if you're interested in learning more, you can book a call right
from my website, so Somatic Grief Therapy dot com. Perfect. Now,
do you have any questions of me? No, I don't think. Hmm,
that's a good one. That's a good question. Yeah. So yeah,
let's uh, can we take a minute and how how we met?
Right? Like? Can we share how we met? Is that okay?
Yeah? Right? So how did we meet? Bill? So? I
met you through a person that I met in the fall who also has been
on this podcast, Kate Mollison, and she introduced me to Sam Ruth,
who has also been on this podcast. And you know, I more or
less had a really tough time in the last two and a half years,
losing twenty five relatives and loved ones and not having a clue how to deal
with it personally, because you know, as a business owner and a leader
in the community and someone who coaches groups of people, companies and all that,
I'm supposed to know how to you know, powerfully navigate through the worst
things in life and reduce the amount of time that that's affecting, you know,
my effectiveness overall. So we jumped on a call and where each of
us are writing a a chapter about our particular story. I think that's now
going back a couple of months ago. We've completed our chapters and they're in
production to go to the editor for putting the book together, which is going
to come out in December. And I have to tell you, I feel
a little bit like that's domain where I'm a little over my head with regard
to other people that have been involved with the Grief conversation for a while,
because I think most of the folks, it seems to me that they're in
some kind of a practice where they've already decided to turn their life over to
helping other people and make that a living. You know, you are one
of them. And you also come to me by way of one of my
most favorite people in the entire planet that I get to talk with once a
week pretty much unless there's some kind of a religious holiday going on for eight
days during Passover, Jane jeremiahs. She is this wonderful. We're so different,
I mean, completely opposites in so many different ways, and I think
our love for each other comes through, and that's kind of how we met.
You're a friend of chance as well. Yeah, and just so you
know, Bill, You're not over your head, right, You're like,
like, I think what And that's what happens is with especially in the grief
space, right like people think, oh, this person has, you know,
more experience than I do with an m over. But everyone does it
differently. Everyone does grief differently, and we have to acknowledge that everyone starts
somewhere and it's you're exactly where you need to be and you can never do
it wrong because you know you're a unique individual with your own unique thoughts and
with your own unique emotions that you bring to the table. So the way
you do it absolutely the way it works for you. So yeah, how
I'm doing it right now now is learning how to speak less and listen more,
simply because there are things about about people and their relationships with each other
that are not a parent and they're they're very important and so I want to
honor that and it's it's it's a complete pleasure to spend time with you,
Jason. After having been on a couple of Zoom calls over the last month
and a half, and I've been I've been wanting to I've been wanting to
make the connection for a while. But like you know, as I said,
like you know, divine timing, right, divine timing. Now is
the time yep. And as Paul Masian said, no wine before it's time,
yep, exactly. That's one hundred percent right. You can't rush it.
It's got to be got to be right. Well, in terms of
wrapping up, Jason, is there anything else that you'd like to say,
or any kind of closing comments or anything. Yeah. I always love to
end with some sort of like I mean, and after talking with you a
little bit before our call, right, like ending with some sort of action.
So because we can't leave that place of inspiration without some sort of action
to be taken. So what I want everybody that's listening to do is just
to take about three deep breaths just to kind of get grounded right and just
take and I'm going to do it too, but take three deep breaths,
breathing in and out through the nose. Yeah. Thank you so much Bill
for having me here. It was the pleasure was all mine, perfect and
you can claim as much pleasure as you like. But it's been a good
way to spend a Thursday morning for me as well. So in the meantime,
ladies and gentlemen, Simple Questions for one hundred people. I think this
is going to be either episode thirty nine or forty. And with that in
mind, I leave you with the same in treatment that I have for the
last couple of months, and that is there are people in your life that'll
make a difference for if you reach out to them and you just send them
a text message, you know, a telephone call, an email, a
post on Facebook. Let them know that your world is better because they are
in it. And if they ever need a friend, they've got at least
one, and that's you, and they should call you. So with that
said, God bless all of you. I love every last one of you,
especially those that I haven't met yet. Have the best day ever.
And Jason, thank you again, my friend. Thank you very much.
Bill. You're very welcome. By y'all. You've been listening to Simple Questions
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