1 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,920 We're back with another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Jasinski, 2 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,600 culture editor here at The Federalist, joined today by Christopher Bedford, Executive editor 3 00:00:26,679 --> 00:00:30,679 at the Common Sense Society. Chris, Welcome, great to be back. 4 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,399 I was so excited that I actually skipped the rest of the intro, where 5 00:00:34,439 --> 00:00:36,920 I say, as always, you can email the show at radio at the 6 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,200 Federalist dot com, follow us on Twitter at fdr LST, make sure to 7 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,600 subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and to the premium version of our website 8 00:00:44,679 --> 00:00:48,320 as well, all good things. But I just skipped right over it because 9 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,399 because you pushed me too. You know. It's that, and also it's 10 00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:54,560 that my mind is now preoccupied by all the breaking news. In fact, 11 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:58,039 some of this breaking news bumped you from Fox News just now, and this 12 00:00:58,119 --> 00:01:02,159 is why you're heating breaking news for another breaking Yes, there are two stories 13 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,400 breaking simultaneously. One is, I would argue, well, let's not play 14 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:14,000 favorites here. One is that tragically they just found debris in the case of 15 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:19,120 the submersible, the submersible Titan that was en route on a tourist expedition to 16 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,319 the Titanic. And at the same time. We are learning more and more 17 00:01:23,359 --> 00:01:27,280 information by the minute, as people comb through documents that the House Ways and 18 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:37,959 Means Committee just made public whistleblower testimony showing that the IRS obstructed investigations into Hunter 19 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:44,200 Biden, or that the FBI obstructed Yeah, the FBI DJ obstructed IRS investigations 20 00:01:44,359 --> 00:01:49,280 into all kinds of crime that it seems to have been committed by Hunter Biden. 21 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:53,280 They have text messages, they have really detailed testimonies. So we're going 22 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:57,159 to do a little of both of these stories. And Chris, you actually 23 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,799 made remember this. Chris likes to talk about Titanic. He's somewhat interested in 24 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,560 the Titanicic just a purely historical level, not as interested as he is in 25 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:08,800 the Thirty Years War. But he is interested in the Titanic because I think 26 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:14,479 you see it, as you see in the story of the Titanic and in 27 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:20,319 the tragedy of the Titanic, some important lessons about modernity. And I actually 28 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:28,199 think the titan tragedy combined as a sort of coda to the Titanic tragedy on 29 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:34,080 a small scale coda to the Titanic tragedy, has some really important lessons in 30 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,919 it too. What's your reaction as they're now finding debris. Well, I 31 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:42,840 wouldn't get too excited about finding a debris field near the wreckage of the Titanic. 32 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:46,240 It seems like that this because could be a false positive. Well said, 33 00:02:49,719 --> 00:02:51,520 yeah, the whole thing. Actually, I hadn't really thought about that. 34 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,639 I was getting angry about some aspects of this story. Is kind of 35 00:02:53,680 --> 00:03:00,439 fascinating and grizzly and terrifying story. I mean, there's not really my wife's 36 00:03:00,439 --> 00:03:05,240 afraid of flying, and I've occasionally pointed out. Usually it's like I'm helpful. 37 00:03:05,319 --> 00:03:07,360 I'm like, I'll get you another drink, let's do a rosary. 38 00:03:07,719 --> 00:03:13,000 But sometimes I'm not. Like one time when I pointed out that we were 39 00:03:13,039 --> 00:03:16,199 basically right above where the Titanic went down. That's just even though we were 40 00:03:16,599 --> 00:03:24,159 miles above and the Titanic is over a mile below, just that association could 41 00:03:24,199 --> 00:03:27,840 cause a complete and total panic in ours. I really shouldn't have done it. 42 00:03:27,879 --> 00:03:30,360 Wait, did you guys go to the Bermuda triangle? But yeah, 43 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,759 well, christopher'st a beimuter triangle kick right now? Right when that kicks in 44 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:37,919 our seven or eight, Like, what is this place? But I think 45 00:03:37,919 --> 00:03:40,520 there's something the stories over the news because it's so totally gripping. It's an 46 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,919 absolute nightmare scenario. I mean, I'm not invited on these kind of submarine 47 00:03:44,919 --> 00:03:50,319 missions. Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars passenger but dying. Whether the Titanic 48 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,159 went down in the darkness of the freezing ocean, it's just a terrifying thing. 49 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:59,159 But in a incredibly confined space. I don't know if folks have seen 50 00:03:59,319 --> 00:04:01,360 footage from other people who have gone inside of it. It's about the size 51 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,360 of a minivan as twenty one feet and if you look when you've got five 52 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:10,240 people packed into it, everybody is together in this very contained space. As 53 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,199 of now, the oxygen would have run out by the estimates, so debris 54 00:04:13,199 --> 00:04:19,040 aside. Unless oxygen power, they die of hypothermia. Right did the deep 55 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:25,040 dark ocean you're just crammed in counting down your final hours. Or if they 56 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,920 founded the briefield, there might have been very little counted though, and they 57 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,519 might not have been crammed in at all. And it sounds like it's hard 58 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,399 to know what happened. Yeah, so at least right now, but I 59 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:39,480 can tell you that from reading about this company and watching interviews with the owner 60 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:43,680 who and the founder who was on it that it's a stupid cost cunning, 61 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,120 fashionable company. It's a company that uses cheap video game controllers. It's a 62 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:55,439 company that replaced expertise with youth, and a company that uses all these different 63 00:04:55,519 --> 00:05:00,920 kind of buzzwords like we're inspirational as opposed to expert and it's company that really 64 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,720 fits into our modern world. Are like late Empire stage vibes at this country 65 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,600 is giving off where you've got. I mean, I was listening to one 66 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,639 speech which I think has it's probably gotten around a little bit on the internet, 67 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,199 where the founder is saying, listen, we don't want to be one 68 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:19,560 another one of these submersible companies. We really think ourselves more of as a 69 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,279 space company. No one's sitting there being like, well, you're not in 70 00:05:23,319 --> 00:05:27,000 space, you're in the ocean. There's similar levels of inability to survive, 71 00:05:27,519 --> 00:05:30,319 for sure. I mean, when I go scuba dive, you have to 72 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,240 keep in mind that there's no oxygen. But he says, all these other 73 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,399 companies have a bunch of fifty something year old white guys. You know, 74 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:44,439 they're not inspirational. So really you mean hiring veterans who've worked on submarines. 75 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,560 That doesn't inspire. Yeah, I think it ought to inspire. He said, 76 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,160 we'd like to hire. You know, you walk at our place, 77 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:53,480 you're gonna see a bunch of twenty five year olds, a bunch of young, 78 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,600 cool hit folks. Women, and I've seen them sort of touting their 79 00:05:56,639 --> 00:06:00,600 female leadership. Yeah, the female leadership. Women should lead obviously, not 80 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:06,560 I mean, unless they're a Saint Johan of Bark that's allowed. See. 81 00:06:09,639 --> 00:06:11,959 But he also says at the end of this, like, really, I 82 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,040 mean, it's not that difficult, need to be like a submersible expert. 83 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:18,040 You drive these things with the video game controller, and it's just it's such 84 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:24,160 an encapsulation of how stupid yet at the same time arrogant we are nowadays. 85 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,680 I mean that Titanic had a lot of arrogance. Western civilization up to for 86 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,720 the last one hundred years really hadn't had any serious wars. A thousand years 87 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:38,879 of infighting. I finally slowed down. Everyone was related. Technology was exploding, 88 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,399 New cures for cures were being found for diseases that had haunted us forever. 89 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,800 Our streets of our cities were lit. Populations weren't starving, there was 90 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:53,480 no bubonic plague like Europe was feeling awesome. Now the most famous people in 91 00:06:53,519 --> 00:06:57,920 the world because sports hadn't really really weren't a thing at that time, were 92 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,519 movies didn't exist or very very limited. Most fames were going in the world 93 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:06,040 were rich people, folks who built business empires. That's what everyone followed. 94 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,480 You had newspaper delivery. It's like a whole new world. And Western Steve 95 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:13,240 was just opening up. And then it turned and they got arrogant and they 96 00:07:13,279 --> 00:07:16,040 said we're going to create the unsinkable ship. And obviously turns out that wasn't 97 00:07:16,079 --> 00:07:19,639 unsinkable, and just a short while later, World War One kind of put 98 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,199 an end to all of that unending optimism and march or Western stuff. But 99 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,360 you fast forward, you've got these this clown CEO. It's like, yeah, 100 00:07:30,439 --> 00:07:32,439 we're more of a space company. We're an underwater space company. We 101 00:07:32,439 --> 00:07:36,279 don't really believe in expertise. We like to wing it. The whole thing 102 00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:41,560 about our company, the whole thing about our industry is it's just completely overregulated 103 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,920 with safety guidelines. Yeah, no kidding. If you go scuba diving in 104 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,399 fifty feet of water, there's a lot of specific guidelines you have to follow 105 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:55,480 because well, it's fun and warm, it's extremely dangerous. It's not. 106 00:07:56,199 --> 00:08:01,040 It's really it's a it's a safe sport, I think, but that's only 107 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,439 if you follow the guidelines. If you don't, it becomes extremely deadly, 108 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,240 extremely quickly. And this guy was doing significantly more than that. It was 109 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,199 an eight hour I think journey down at the Titanic tweet, complete and total 110 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:18,560 darkness except for the lights to have And he's like, I got video game 111 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,000 controller. It was a staff of twenty five. It's like, listen, 112 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:24,079 I like that business model. I used to govern it at the Daily Caller. 113 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,600 We weren't doing submaries. Run with a video game controller, basically run 114 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,200 with the video games for Joel Hart a bunch of twenty five year olds paid 115 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,600 with beer and occasional cigarettes that they had to share amongst them. But the 116 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:41,960 we're beginning to see a lot more of this. We're going to see more 117 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,559 of it. The you're seeing it in aerospace with problems with the FAA, 118 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:50,519 you're seeing it, and you see it start to see in tech when you've 119 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:54,639 got you see it in firefighting, you see it in police, in medicine. 120 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,519 I mean, yeah, it's extremely important, for example, that we 121 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,159 have diverse sexes and hirefighting and like, unless you're Rhonda Rousa, you probably 122 00:09:03,159 --> 00:09:05,720 aren't gonna be able to pick my two hundred and thirty pounds up and put 123 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,279 it over your shoulder and pull me out of a building. So I don't 124 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,559 think you're gonna be a firefighter. Yeah, and that stuff is stupid. 125 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:20,320 The cult of diversity and the anti x at the expense of expertise is something 126 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,799 that has been really annoying for years in the humanities, just something that bugs 127 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:28,519 us, bugs me. That's you know these you see these different doctors and 128 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,600 professors get up in front of the Senate and tell people there's fifty five genders 129 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,879 or whatever. And there's obviously it's annoying in those places, but it's deadly 130 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:43,279 when that expertise is building airplanes, piloting submarines, doing things like that. 131 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,000 And we know because we see it at that our society, at NASA and 132 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:58,840 our military and aerospace and in the Navy, that they're putting diversity conclusion quotas 133 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:05,000 above expertise and we're just beginning to reap the whirlwind on that. And it's 134 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:07,519 going to continue to get worse until some of the weeks up and says, 135 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:11,440 hey, I don't care what you look like. I need you to be 136 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,879 able to do this math. I need you to be able to inspect this 137 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,399 airplane. That is what's more important than anything, and people's lives are other 138 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:22,279 escue for it. Well, yeah, the word is decadence, and before 139 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,399 you love that word, but this is very fitting. I mean, you 140 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,559 could hardly find a better illustration of modern decadence than this where you have I 141 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,039 would totally have done it. By the way, you would have a billionaire 142 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:37,200 and money didn't matter anything to me. I would love to see that type, 143 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:41,639 you know. I actually think this is a pretty interesting point. And 144 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,639 one thing I've been reflecting on is Molly Hemingway road a great piece back in 145 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:50,159 twenty fourteen entitled we need to get more comfortable with people dying in space, 146 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:58,399 And there's something so profoundly eerie about the sort of symbol of Gilded age hubris 147 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:05,159 that sunk and people actually now with no real practical reason, but just sort 148 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:11,159 of out of that that morbid curiosity of seeing something like the Titanic underwater, 149 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,960 so that people now are actually paying two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I 150 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,399 looked it up. Inflation adjusted, that is more than double the cost of 151 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,120 the most expensive ticket on the Titanic. But just about every estimate if you're 152 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:26,279 adjusting for inflation. So I would much rather take the ticket of the Titanic 153 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,240 two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Most estimates say that, like the most 154 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,639 expensive on the ticket on the Titanic adjusted for inflations, around one hundred thousand 155 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:41,039 dollars. So people in twenty about that ticket. You probably survived. Actually, 156 00:11:41,039 --> 00:11:43,960 some of the richest men in the world died in the Titanic, so 157 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:48,200 maybe not right right, So in twenty twenty three, people are paying more 158 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,039 than double what it costs actually to take a trip across the ocean on the 159 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:58,799 most advanced large vessel of its kind, just to go see the graveyard of 160 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,200 that vessel for a day. I mean, it's it's pretty bizarre when you 161 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:05,639 when you think about it that way, Like, I actually understand very much 162 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:11,759 the desire to towards see the Titanic, but for the price of two hundred 163 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:16,120 and fifty thousand dollars, I think even as a billionaire, that's for eight 164 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:20,919 hours a very very strange use of your money, especially given the risks involved. 165 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,879 There are much more. This is the point Molly makes in her piece 166 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:33,960 from twenty fourteen. There are very sort of admirable, patriotic, courageous risks 167 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:39,000 that we are averse from taking now as a society, that we need to 168 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:45,159 be more comfortable with. This is not one of them. No expiation although 169 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,919 they're not really adding anything to the exploration on this nothing whatsoever. I mean, 170 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,120 there's nothing new that is going to be gleaned. There is. They 171 00:12:52,159 --> 00:12:54,879 call themselves. This is actually another interesting part of it Operation specialists. So 172 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:58,120 the people who pay the tickets are sort of looped into the science. If 173 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,240 you watch their advertis for it, they're like, you just won't be you 174 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,639 won't just be passive, You're like actively Operation specialists are actively involved in the 175 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:11,240 scientific process babble. They're like giving you monitors to like watch and be like, 176 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:20,440 yes, it is now read. 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That's angel dot com slash freedom also, 209 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,279 but these are the money ments a little of these guys, why didn't they 210 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,600 just buy two seats? I'd be like, how about half a million dollars 211 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:50,000 so I can move my legs in the submarine or maybe the rest of my 212 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:52,399 possibly very short life. Yeah, I'm going to be on the submarine. 213 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,159 I would like a little more legroup. I just wrote a piece for the 214 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,279 Common Sense Society stuff. Yes, yes, it was very good. Thank 215 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:07,639 you. On the last one of the last members of the last probably interwar 216 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,720 polar explorer to die. He was the youngest member of Admiral Bird, then 217 00:16:11,799 --> 00:16:18,799 not yet Admiral Bird's Antarctic expeditions. The name was Robert Johnson. He was 218 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,679 a Navy sailor who had sailed on He had a sailing experience when he was 219 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:27,480 a sea scout younger in his life that caught Bird's eye and he said, 220 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,320 why don't you come down with me to the Antarctic. He just passed away 221 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,600 to one hundred and two. But it was just I was reading back because 222 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:40,120 I've I've fallen down a rabbit hole of reading about these polar explorers. Because 223 00:16:40,159 --> 00:16:44,720 somebody sent a Shackleton book to the Federalist. Yes, a British explorer who 224 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,759 had written a book called Shackleton Sentence to Us, And I mean he's a 225 00:16:49,799 --> 00:16:55,080 story of absolute perseverance. He's someone who got but he's another person who's run 226 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,039 around the Titanic time. It's the it's the heroic age of polar exploration. 227 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,720 The whole world was riveted by these men who are going out there. There's 228 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:07,680 extreme tragedy that's marking some of these expeditions, with the whole whole expeditions being 229 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:14,720 wiped out. Shackleton sets sail on the day or his ship leaves England and 230 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,079 the day the Germany and Russia to clare war on each other for World War 231 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,920 One. By the time they're about to go out of radio contact with the 232 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,759 world, England is at war. They offer their support and they say, 233 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:27,720 no, don't worry about it, we got it. And these guys leave 234 00:17:27,759 --> 00:17:30,720 just kind of assuming it's going to be another European dust up. It'll be 235 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,880 over in a few short weeks and some new maybe France and Germany will swap 236 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:41,279 back a couple of territories. That's kind of their tradition between those two countries 237 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,880 for a thousand years prior one hundred years prior, and then they got back 238 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,799 and like holy smokes, they had heard these stories. One the war is 239 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:52,400 still raging, they're hearing about trenches for the first time, and they're hearing 240 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,400 about or at least at trench warfare on this level. They're hearing about these 241 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,480 tanks from one across the battlefield, the skies filled with gas, and whole 242 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,079 cities and towns and region it's just wiped off the map. And they're completely 243 00:18:04,079 --> 00:18:07,680 and totally shocked. And when Shackleton gets back to London, there's no one 244 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,440 waiting there to greet him, like no one cares. Everyone's moved on. 245 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:15,160 But at that kind of kicked off. That was the end really of the 246 00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:18,920 of the heroic age of Antarctic exploration, and then became the mechanical age where 247 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,279 people started to through like well I got in roal bird, Well maybe I 248 00:18:22,319 --> 00:18:25,680 can fly to the North Pole. I can fly to the South Pole, 249 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:30,359 which she reportedly did on both, although there's some some controversy, or we're 250 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,799 gonna take We're gonna do this with snowmobiles, as Rynold Fiends does. The 251 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:37,759 British explorer who just wrote the book Shackleton, We're gonna bring this new technology 252 00:18:37,799 --> 00:18:42,119 supposed to simply dogs and ponies and things like that, and Robert Johnson was 253 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,759 a member of this They there's some levels fhew brisks. They brought down a 254 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:53,640 much valley hood uh Antarctic Explorer, this giant wheeled encapsulated lab that was able 255 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,559 to withstand anything and it could go all across, but they never tested it 256 00:18:57,599 --> 00:19:03,920 on snow. The tires were around and ended up being used by the marines 257 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,559 on deck, just as a barracks like to hang out in. So there 258 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:11,279 were some total great embarrassments. But you're right, it is a far cry 259 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:15,720 from these folks who went down with the Titanic. A lot of my friends 260 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,359 have shaden freud for these billionaires who went down there. I don't. I 261 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,279 just I just maybe it's because I'm obsessed with the Titanic, but I think 262 00:19:22,279 --> 00:19:26,319 I think that'd be so cool. I see the impulse to want to want 263 00:19:26,319 --> 00:19:30,440 to go down there, but I don't see the not doing the research on 264 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,519 this company and getting getting in there and being like, who is this dude? 265 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,680 I want. I want the guy who's not who's very much by the 266 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,720 book. I want the guy who hires the ex sub mariners in their fifties 267 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,319 to come on and do everything. I want the guy who will call off 268 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,680 the mission if he looks around and says, you know what, the conditions 269 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,640 aren't perfect, because it's a deadly, deadly mission. Yeah. Someone mentioned 270 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,200 to me that William F. Buckley was one of the first people to tour 271 00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:59,119 the wreckage of the Titanic. You would probably know this better than idea, 272 00:19:59,279 --> 00:20:03,640 And um, I think that's you know he was. He was very interested 273 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,720 in Robert Ballard, and that's obviously an easy subject and an easy person to 274 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:11,599 be very interested in and oppressed Ballard took Buckley. I don't know. If 275 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:15,000 it was with Ballard, that'd be cool. Yeah, that would be cool. 276 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,759 I would love to have been in that little submarine. No, absolutely, 277 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,759 and and still had that assuming that happened. I don't know if it 278 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:25,599 actually have. Somebody who told me that was true, and what we do 279 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:30,079 here at the Federals is just recycled claims as a fact. Kidding. I'll 280 00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:33,200 look it up when Chris starts talking us next because I have nothing better to 281 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,519 do anyway. But um, that would still be on the cutting edge of 282 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:41,240 Titanic exploration, just by whenever time. That must have been. It still 283 00:20:41,279 --> 00:20:45,960 would have been when when that was of some use, right, and Robert 284 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,160 Ballard did that for obvious scientatic woods all Massachusetts. It's short bike ride from 285 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,920 my parents house. Oh yeah, yeah. They for Ballard, he discovered 286 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,240 the mark, he discovered the Titanic. I was saying something, they're going 287 00:20:56,279 --> 00:20:59,440 to find this. Sarah said, are they going to find the submarine? 288 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,480 I said, I don't know. Took them fifty years to find the Titanic. 289 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,960 I really doubt they're going to find the submarine. But maybe it's twenty 290 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,759 one feet long compared to the Titanic. Now, say Robert Ballard in a 291 00:21:08,759 --> 00:21:18,759 Boston accent Robert Ballad, Okay, so I'm going to do my best to 292 00:21:18,759 --> 00:21:22,680 build a bridge from this topic to another. Actually, I think it's easy. 293 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,920 I think it can work. Yeah, I got booted from Fox to 294 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,799 talk about this next topic. Well, so, I actually I remember talking 295 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:33,400 about the Titanic a couple of years ago, and one of the takeaways you 296 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:40,279 had from it is that despite the kind of class divisions, despite the sex 297 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:45,640 divisions, there were men on the Titanic who really did abide by women and 298 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:51,160 children first. And that's somewhat of an unthinkable ethic in cities like Washington, 299 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,880 d C. In here in twenty twenty three, and there are lessons from 300 00:21:53,880 --> 00:22:00,680 the Titanic. I think about the sort of respectability incentives of a when there's 301 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:06,759 no doubt that you know, Carnegie had some really unfortunate business practices, but 302 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,039 the incentives for at least publicly your behavior were very different, and people people 303 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:15,319 had standards that whether or not they're they're obviously different from what we have now, 304 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,839 but in some ways different for the best, our billionaires use slave labor 305 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,559 and foreign countries. Yeah, these guys mistreated the American workers, but at 306 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,759 least they built in America. Well, they also had. The best example 307 00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:33,400 that I can think of is the Carnegie Library in Mount Vernon Square here in 308 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,599 Washington, DC. That Tim now an Apple store. Tim Apple. Yeah, 309 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,559 Tim Cook restored. He didn't build his own. He restored this one 310 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:47,799 and then turned it into a freaking Apple store. He restored it not for 311 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,559 charitable purposes to bring the community together and bring them give them a place where 312 00:22:51,599 --> 00:22:53,640 actually they can go look at books and stuff. He built it into an 313 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,279 Apple store. I mean, it's like the perfect embodiment. But on that 314 00:22:57,319 --> 00:23:03,079 note, I guess the neighborhood. He deserves anything. The average person hanging 315 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:04,599 out in Chinatown for more than half an hour can read a book. I 316 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,640 watched protesters burn a car outside of that Apple store while it was being looted, 317 00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:15,160 burn a cop car, and they're still on the block that you actually 318 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,079 can still see the markings of it. And it's twenty twenty three. You 319 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,920 can still see that there. Anyway. Another thing Molly talks about a lot 320 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:29,240 is there are sort of lack of statesman, magnanimous leaders who can shepherd us, 321 00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:33,359 midwife us through this like incredibly difficult moment as a country. And I 322 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,680 think what we're sort of seeing unfold right now as the whistleblower testimony is being 323 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,240 picked through literally as we speak, like it was released a couple hours ago, 324 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,960 so we're still going through it here at the Federalist, and then everyone, 325 00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:45,799 you know, kind of a media is taking a look at it. 326 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,759 As long as you're not in legacy media, you're not going to be very 327 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:53,799 interested in what they find. But the way that Hunter Biden is talking to 328 00:23:55,039 --> 00:24:00,200 a Chinese businessman or Chinese official saying, I'm sitting right next to my dad, 329 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:06,319 you better send this now or my dad, or the person sitting next 330 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,680 to me, who, by the way, is my dad, is going 331 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:14,680 to be extremely upset. The way the FBI, you can see how they 332 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,799 were leaking these thinly these thinly sourced claims throughout twenty sixteen about Trump in Russia 333 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:26,319 and in twenty twenty. Part of the whistleblower testimony is that the FBI verified 334 00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:32,400 Hunter Biden's laptop and November of twenty nineteen, November of twenty nineteen, and 335 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:38,039 they were sitting on evidence of pretty clear corruption throughout twenty twenty and instead of 336 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,559 leaking, which I don't think you know, they should be doing anyway, 337 00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:45,480 but instead of leaking, they're actually obstructing investigations into it. I mean, 338 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:49,640 it is just like it is. We are led by idiots, and we 339 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,400 are led by corrupt idiots. They're making millions and millions and millions of dollars. 340 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,039 I mean, this, this whole thing, this whole Hunter Biden. 341 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:03,839 Eventual prosecution's not even a prosecution, a plea deal is unreal. I guess 342 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,759 we got today from some of the whistle blowers that the IRS was told that 343 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:12,359 the evidence would not be They weren't allowed to get the evidence because the evidence 344 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,440 resolved in the guest room and Joe Biden's house, and they weren't ever going 345 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,039 to go raid Joe Biden's house at the president's house to find evidence of a 346 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,680 crime because that would be a bugas that would be breaking a serious norm in 347 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,039 America. Yeah, by the way, I actually kind of agree with that. 348 00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:33,039 I wouldn't say raid the sitting president's or former president's house. Over two 349 00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:36,240 million dollars in late taxes to the IRS, I got to be insane. 350 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,680 But we're past that point. We've already crossed that river. We raid president's 351 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,519 houses now, at least former presidents, so that doesn't wash. And now 352 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:48,319 we have we have the I R S whistle blowers saying the IRS was slow 353 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,400 walking it. Now we have more people coming forward in the IRS saying we 354 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,000 wanted felony charges and the DJ refused. You got Marek Garland going up there 355 00:25:56,079 --> 00:26:00,400 under oath saying the US attorney who was a pointed it has been allowed to 356 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,880 have full rain. I am not interfering at all in this case. And 357 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,720 now we have whistle blow is coming forward to say no, actually he is. 358 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,880 He's he's turning down the US Attorney's attempts to get a special counsel turning 359 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:21,240 down the attempts to prosecute these things. I mean, it's it's all kind 360 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,960 of expected. Well, once you have like a kind of a basic understanding. 361 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,960 Sometimes I'm like a really bad guest on Fox because they compat these things 362 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480 like who's going to be held accountable? And I'm supposed to say something like 363 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:36,519 yas, but the answer is no one. It's like always no one. 364 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:40,079 It doesn't really matter who what the scandal is, it doesn't matter what information 365 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,000 comes out. It doesn't even matter if there's a Republican president unless that Republican 366 00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:45,440 president is a kind of person like a Rhndo Sanus type. It's like I'm 367 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:52,160 gonna shut down Disney like because you cannot work within the system. The system 368 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,839 works against the right. The system works very much with those who are in 369 00:26:56,839 --> 00:26:59,920 power. And even when as a Republican administration, it's going to be like 370 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:02,480 that, they're gonna tell you a million and one reasons why they can't do 371 00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:07,039 this, so they can do that, So no one's gonna be held accountable. 372 00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:11,200 It's gonna be ignored by half of the news media, and it will 373 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,039 continue. I actually really like my Gates as kind of line of questioning at 374 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:19,720 the Durham hearing yesterday, saying well, why why is no one who why 375 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,319 are these people still working here? Why why have you not gone further? 376 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,559 Why have you not gone after everyone who's involved here? Why have it disappinion 377 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,640 of them? I mean, cool, you've you've laid out a really interesting 378 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:36,400 spy thriller which were basically now it's kind of provable, and historians will look 379 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,319 back in a hundred years if we're still a country, and we're like, 380 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,839 oh wow, that was a really bad period, but no one's held accountable. 381 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:48,880 It's true that even the dry as can be Durham Report, in terms 382 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,960 of like how it's written in the tone of it does really read unintentionally like 383 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,920 a spy thriller. It's actually pretty you know, it's actually pretty intriguing stuff, 384 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,200 just the content of it alone. It's not some better presentation than Mullard 385 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,519 too, Like everyone was like, oh, this guy's a real superhero. 386 00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:10,039 Not at the Trump this guy's the toughest copy. You only saw still shots 387 00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,720 of him because like he avoided the press, like him believing in church, 388 00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:17,440 just looking like the American hero. And then we got in front of Congress, 389 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,680 and it turned out that he was like suffering from late sage dementia. 390 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,880 So, yes, that was I'm pleased to report. And I'm actually shocked 391 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,559 you didn't know this that Buckley did for the records of the Titanic in nineteen 392 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:36,319 eighty seven. I was using a reliable source, my boyfriend. So reliable 393 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,640 source turned out to be absolutely correct nineteen eighty seven Buckley towards the records of 394 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,400 the Tantannic. It's it's very surprising to me that you, as a I 395 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,079 don't think so, I don't know, but you, as such a fan 396 00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:48,559 of both the Titanic and William F. Buckley, did not know this. 397 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,279 I think Buckley did some good stuff, some not great stuff too, Okay, 398 00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,680 well the Titanic. I mean, I guess he and I are on 399 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:02,720 the same page on that, Like I would absolutely that invitation. Well, 400 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,200 so I wanted to read this hun to buy and text message because it's just 401 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,920 one second, yes please, Well we're talking about fake news and repeating stories. 402 00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,039 Yes, So I realized I had a tour guide the first time it 403 00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,319 came to DC who was taking us around in this bus, and he has 404 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:19,680 told us the Smithsonian castle was brought over here by Smithson from his castle in 405 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:25,039 Scotland that he had taken apart brick by brick, shipped over here and rebuilt 406 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:26,720 in the National Malt And I was like, that's insane. And I repeated 407 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,839 that story when taking people around DC for like fifteen years, and I would 408 00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:34,039 give someone a tour. We're actually in the Smithson Castle and I'm reading it 409 00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:37,400 and as I'm telling them the story, get to the parts like and it 410 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:41,480 was constructed here and designed by this architect and it was not remotely true. 411 00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:45,240 It was And then I look back at it's like, it's obviously not true. 412 00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,759 But it made me realize that if I was a tour guide, I 413 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,799 would do that. Yeah. If I was my job to survive a round 414 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:53,799 of the bus with a bunch of tourists and kids all day, yeah, 415 00:29:53,839 --> 00:30:00,480 I would just slip in like one or two absurd trivia and just and this. 416 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,400 I know that they would spread, like my friend would do this as 417 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,319 the party. He'd tell people, tonight's lie is going to be I survived 418 00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:08,799 a helicopter crash. I f felt of a helicopter at one thousand feet and 419 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:11,960 survived. And I'm like, yeah, right, and by the end of 420 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,359 the party, girls would be telling me, did you see that guy? 421 00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:15,920 You fell out of an airplane or a helicopter, And I was like, 422 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:21,039 wow, it worked. It's just kind of fun that Again, women are 423 00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:26,279 gullible. This is why they shouldn't leave children. I tell lies to children 424 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:29,480 all the time. It's great, it's fun. Yeah, someone's gonna take 425 00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:33,680 that van away from you. Like I told sure the day that there is 426 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:40,839 one actual remaining dinosaur. It's the rhinosaurus, and a female rhinosaurus was a 427 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,640 hippopotamus. And most kids are like, yeah, yeah, I know, 428 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,480 I know, and like they'll get into a fighting squirard about it. But 429 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,599 Christopher actually called me right away. He's at that sun. Yeah that could 430 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:59,599 love. Yeah. The Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with the Chris Markovski. 431 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,480 Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy and how it 432 00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:06,960 affects your wallet. Is the Trump indictment a game of three d chess by 433 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,799 Democrats and the leftist media? With all the attention on this trial, will 434 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:14,119 any be left for real problems? Moving to twenty twenty four, how about 435 00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:17,480 the kitchen table issues that affect you and your family? Make sure you're paying 436 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,480 attention. Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting 437 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,640 you financially. Be informed. Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with 438 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:30,359 Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. Well 439 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,599 back to Hunter Biden, who may also love dinosaurs, we don't know, 440 00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:41,279 also lies to children, so oh oh, including his own. This is 441 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,000 from the whistleblower. For example, we obtained a July thirtieth, twenty seventeen 442 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,920 what'sapp message from Hunter Biden to Henry Zao, where Hunter Biden wrote, quote, 443 00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:52,839 I am sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why 444 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,720 the commitment made has not been fulfilled. Tell the director that I would like 445 00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,119 to resolve this now before it gets out of hand, and means tonight and 446 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,160 Zee. If I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other 447 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,720 than you, Zang or the chairman, I will make certain that between the 448 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:13,720 man sitting next to me and every person he knows, and my ability to 449 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:17,119 forever hold the grudge, that you will regret not following my direction. I 450 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,559 am sitting here waiting for the call with my father, but he's sitting next 451 00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:24,200 to his father. By the way, I don't know if he picked up 452 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:30,160 on that is next to his father. I'm gonna tell my dad what an 453 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:36,240 absolute loser. I mean the way that so this is again like if the 454 00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:38,599 reason that Hunter Biden and he I think he even said this on sixty minutes, 455 00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:43,880 Like obviously people are throwing money at him during the Obama administration and even 456 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,359 shortly thereafter because his name is Biden. He's making all kinds of money from 457 00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:53,599 Barisma and other places cfc. Because his last name is Biden. And somebody 458 00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:58,400 who is successfully corrupt is going to do exactly what he just did over and 459 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:04,319 over again and say things in these these sort of cage ways where he's invoking 460 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,440 the name of the person that they are trying to buy access to by just 461 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,279 saying, by the way, I'm sitting here next to my father, do 462 00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:15,000 you not know my father the vice president and the former vice president of the 463 00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:20,839 United States is twenty seventeen and the other courses in our prosecution. I mean, 464 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:27,200 we have an email from two or three years ago with the chairman of 465 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,640 Barisma emailing Hunter. I mean, like listen, I know, but we 466 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:36,480 want to get down some deliverables. He says, the core deliverable is making 467 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,200 sure that there are no prosecutions of the president of this company. It's like 468 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:45,000 it's explicit, it's in there. And we know that the prosecutor who was 469 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,240 going after him was fired, and we know that Joe Biden was behind it 470 00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:52,000 because Joe Biden's on camera bragging about it, and we know that's been debunked. 471 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,000 And that's just a bunch of circumstances everything. But now we find out 472 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,880 from these whistleblowers in the last two weeks that the president of had an insurance 473 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,200 policy against these guys because he didn't trust them. He didn't trust Hunter, 474 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:09,719 who knows why. And he apparently has fifteen recorded phone calls with Hunter and 475 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,480 whoa too with the big guy? Yeah, two with Biden, the big 476 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,760 guys with the Chinese called Biden. That's what Hunter calls Biden. It's what 477 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,960 the reasons Biden. I love that that Trump line who's the big guy there 478 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,239 in the debates. But so now they have the audio recordings, so I 479 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,719 get that there's this whole thing like, well, maybe they're just prosecuting, 480 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,320 or maybe they're just trying to figure out the tax stuff and the gun stuff 481 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,920 first, and the wheels of justice moved slowly. But the only reason I 482 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,440 just don't trust it at all because an order for us to even get anything 483 00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:45,440 anywhere this far, the Kevin McCarthy had to threaten to hold ray and contempt 484 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,760 and then move forward. To do it, they had to have multiple whistleblowers 485 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:53,039 from the IRS and the FBI come forward, and a paid informant FBI informant 486 00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:57,119 come forward with the goods, give them to the Senate the FBI, and 487 00:34:57,159 --> 00:35:00,880 that it that they existed until told that, It's like, do you have 488 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,400 the candy? No, I could see it the candy. I've actually already 489 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,800 compiscated the candy. It's in my hand. And they're like, okay, 490 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,480 well you can look at the candy at the skiff and we're going to redact 491 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,039 it. It's not even classified. And then they redacted from it that they 492 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:22,119 had the recordings that since I guess that's supposedly to protect the source because there's 493 00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:24,119 only so many people, so I guess the source as the president of the 494 00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:30,679 Breezesmar someone else who had access to his phone. But the uh, they've 495 00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:34,480 got everything. This is old. We've talked about this and I've told this 496 00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:43,039 story before, but during the Whittaker Chambers alder hiss Uh trials, discovering Communists 497 00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:47,639 agents at the highest levels of the US Department, Communist age, I'm looking 498 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,440 debunked. Um. Nixon was able was the one who got the chambers with 499 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:01,480 the testimony. He went to this like weird X communists house and drove up 500 00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:05,239 there and sat down with the tape recorder and interviewed the guy for hours. 501 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,199 He's the one who got those tapes. It's um. The FBI was like, 502 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:13,559 we'll take it from here. He was like, absolutely not. He 503 00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:16,679 wrote this in his memoirs. And Nixon does everything politically, like like he 504 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,599 worts in his memoirs about his wife getting spit on by a mob in South 505 00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:22,440 America, and he's like, I had to realize that we stood there representing 506 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,840 Americas. Like everything he's even his wife getting spit on, is political in 507 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,679 his mind. So he's a true character, doesn't just get lose his temper. 508 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,559 And he's like, there's absolutely zero shot I am giving this smoking gun 509 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,000 evidence of Communism of the highest level of the saverment to the FBI. And 510 00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:42,320 if I was in his infancy at this point, because he knew that the 511 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,719 FBI would sit on it, bury it, nothing would happen, There'd be 512 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,480 no embarrassment, no scandal, and everything would go on as usual. The 513 00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:51,320 only way for him to do it was to expose it in public. And 514 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,119 back then at least there was enough shame that this that he was able to 515 00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:59,000 be successful. But this is, this is, this is since the founding 516 00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:01,800 of the FBI is they've been an arm of political of certain political forces, 517 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,320 the ones that the elites seem to like. They bugged very Goldwater's plane for 518 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,880 Lyndon Johnson. They sent actual human moles onto his campaign. UM friend of 519 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,119 ours, Ley Edwards had to make campaign business phone calls from a pay phone 520 00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:17,960 in front of the campaign headquarters because their phones were bugged, and as one 521 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,760 of the secretaries was a spy and the plane was bugged. They've been doing 522 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,800 this the whole time and really nothing has changed. Yeah, if you are 523 00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:30,920 opposed to their power or to Brown broader power, then you will be targeted 524 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,519 by them. Truck Schumer made that very plan to Donald Trump. What did 525 00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:36,960 he say, like, mess with these guys and you're gonna find out. 526 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,239 Basically, it was like f around and find out back in twenty sixteen. 527 00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:43,159 Yeah, remember, and he said that, well, I mean not everyone, 528 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,679 not everyone gets taken down. There have there have been three sitting US 529 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:51,119 presidents who've gone after American intelligence services. And there's Donald Trump and Richard Nixon 530 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:54,119 and John F. Kennedy. Maybe maybe they do always get their way. 531 00:37:54,559 --> 00:38:00,760 Yeah, yeah, yep, well yeah that an examine are a quick examiner 532 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,360 hit that we were like in the middle of cooking dinner and during steak and 533 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,960 everything, and it was breaking news something in the Durham Reporter or something, 534 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,400 and we suddenly had to sit down and talk about it. And they asked, 535 00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:15,199 can your husband's like drinking to Martini over there? Can he join us? 536 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:21,239 And I started going to Kennedy and Nixon and she's just racking my left. 537 00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:22,719 I didn't say it, I just you know, pointed out that there 538 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,880 are some similaris you're just going like full tinfoil hat got a lot of years, 539 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,360 but people, hey, I mean it's not wrong. But so yeah, 540 00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:36,280 the Hunter Biden thing, I guess just as we wrap up to zoom 541 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,760 out, people might say like, well, okay, so why is conservative 542 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:45,320 media like chewing on the Hunter Biden scandal like a dog with a bone um. 543 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,920 When you know it's true, you can look at Jared Kushner, you 544 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,440 can go back in history, you go back even you know right now and 545 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,440 look at people like Bernie May and off Like, we all know corruption is 546 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,360 baked into our system at this point, and we all know that both political 547 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:05,480 parties benefit from it. When you look at what happened with the actually with 548 00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:10,840 Ukraine and Yanakovich in twenty sixteen, you had both Paul Manafort and Tony Podesta 549 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,599 wrapped up into into that influenced pedaling scandal, which I still think is one 550 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:21,480 of the best symbols of bipartisan corruption Washington, DC. Ever, So what 551 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:27,920 is why why is it completely appropriate with a Hunter Biden scandal to kind of 552 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,519 zoom out and say this is absolutely worth our time, this is absolutely worth 553 00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:36,639 thinking about it because they're getting somewhere. What's the importance of it? They're 554 00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:38,239 getting somewhere here. I mean, I was supposed to go out with Richard 555 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,199 Fowler. Were just chatting in the green room and his last headline grabbing thing 556 00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:45,760 with Republicans have been on this Hunter Biden scandal for years now. It's time 557 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,599 to put up or shut up, Like, where is the story, And 558 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,639 just in the last two weeks alone, Chuck Rassley has has produced multiple whistleblowers 559 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,800 from inside of our government who are shielding him, who are saying, at 560 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,639 this this investigation is being shield at the highest levels, produced potential, the 561 00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:07,039 existence of actual recordings of corruption at the highest levels, the kind of things 562 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:10,639 that for Hunter, he should get at least the prison sentence the Paul manafor 563 00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:15,199 It got, which I think was five years. I mean, this entire 564 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,679 laptop, which they've verified in twenty nineteen, is full of fair violations, 565 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,800 evidence of fair violations. We know that we've seen what's on the laptop since 566 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,719 twenty twenty. They had that in twenty nineteen. They're saying right now that 567 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,519 the investigation is still open. Interestingly, this whistleblower testimony. I looked at 568 00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:31,840 the date on it was late May. So when you have that late May 569 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:37,480 date and the way that the charges were dropped just this week, I think 570 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:43,639 that's really interesting because they knew. When we say, like, well he 571 00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:46,880 hasn't been charged with farrah blah blah blah, I mean they've at least had 572 00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:52,079 they've known that this whistleblower testimony is out there. They have known that, 573 00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:55,079 Like they validated that laptop back in November twenty nineteen. So a, why 574 00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:59,079 does it take five years for the chargers to be brought? Great question, 575 00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:01,360 four years for the chargers to be brought and then in some of these cads 576 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:07,679 and then why are they now saying that the investigation remains open? Well actually 577 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,880 seemingly behind the scenes of obstructing this stuff. I mean that is like, 578 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,360 that's why this matters. This is this matters because this affects the life of 579 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:22,199 the average everyday American because their law enforcement at the highest level is utterly corrupt. 580 00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:24,480 People seem to have their eyes open to that. People need to get 581 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:30,199 off the whole well the pendel will swing back thing or the or that you 582 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,320 know, there are a lot of good guys out there. I saw silence 583 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,679 of the lambs. Like you need to understand guys and girls because you saw 584 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,400 silence of the lambs. Yeah, just how in trouble we are, and 585 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,440 make your politicians actually hold us accountable. Like understand that when a hearing is 586 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,679 held and a bunch of people get out there and bang on their gabble and 587 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,480 they go on foxtioners afterwards and say we held people accountable. I understand they 588 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,239 didn't understand that no one's getting arrested, and you have to demand more of 589 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,360 your politicians and just hearings you need. We can't just keep on giving these 590 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,960 guys money and be like, all right, yeah, everything's good. You 591 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,840 need to demand actual action from these guys because we're in a lot of trouble. 592 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,880 I mean, we're in late stage empire stuff. This whole kind of 593 00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:16,400 podcast has been on that. Whether it's the billionaire who just died at the 594 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,440 bottom of the sea and the fact that his son was out at Blink twin 595 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,559 eighty two and using his dad missing to try and take shots at internet porn 596 00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:29,960 stars, to this corruption at our federal government. These kind of things just 597 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:31,880 sound like end of Rome stuff, and people need to wake up to how 598 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,800 dire it is. Right, Yeah, there's some measure of end of Rome 599 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,239 stuff even when Rome isn't ending, But it feels like it's piling up to 600 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,920 end of room stuff constantly, at like the actual end of room scale, 601 00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:45,559 right, Like there's weird things that happen all the time. But yeah, 602 00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:51,239 and of course there's also the quaint matter that our president could be compromised by 603 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,079 blackmail it could be compromised by foreign entanglements, and I'd prefer to not find 604 00:42:55,119 --> 00:43:00,000 about that after find out about that after the fact. But who cares? 605 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:07,199 Right, at least we can take hope somebody what's his name, Will Will 606 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,239 Hurds running for president. Oh right, we'll heard h u r D heard. 607 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,920 Yes, So everyone, this is a game changer. Will heard. 608 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,719 And now I also have heard from New York Times that Rick Scott is mulling 609 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:28,199 a presidential run. So we're about to have another redo of twenty sixteen. 610 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,199 So maybe it is actually big news that Will hurt Us entered the race, 611 00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:37,159 because we could be looking at another absurd debate stage that gets moves the ball 612 00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:39,800 forward in no productive way whatsoever. I'm just here to announce to the American 613 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:45,280 people. No, he is wearing a blue blazer. No I am running 614 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:50,360 to b to Santus's director of HUD. When was the last time you ran, 615 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,079 Sarah? So I do I have to do my cardio not running? 616 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,840 But Sarah made me go on a run other day and I saw the Dominicus 617 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,480 on my run. Very embarrassing to see me on a run or on a 618 00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:08,599 bike. A bike I could cruise cardio apply a metrics. Great, but 619 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,119 no, it's too easy to make fun of you with the bike because you 620 00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:19,960 you wear the you wear the outfit only a long ride. Okay, only 621 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,320 on long ride. A memoir Only on long rides, A memoir by Christopher 622 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,639 Bedford. Big B, big B. All right, well, big b, 623 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,440 thank you so much for joining us. Chris Bedford, executive editor at 624 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,679 the Common Sense Society. Always appreciate it. Great, we're here. All 625 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,639 right. Well, you've been listening to another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. 626 00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:42,639 I'm Emily Trashinsky, culture editor here at the Federalist. We'll be back 627 00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:45,159 soon with more. Until then, be lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray