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Now we have Brian with breaking news. This is I on the Ball Breaking

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All right, let's get it going.

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First thing up, as Keivin Clark. She broke a record the other night

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for the WNBA had two point one
million viewers that followed her debut the other

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night, the most watched game in
over twenty years. Twenty years. Wow,

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yeah, yeah, I mean the
curiosity factor, woll the game fact,

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just the whole I mean, the
everything factor. I mean, you

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know, it's just you look,
you look at what I mean. People

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want to you know, people want
to see this, and she's doing she's

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doing something that nobody else has been
able to do. And so you know,

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if you're gonna give her crap for
all of that, then fine,

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because there are some people who are
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a clip of a file that she
took. She's going down the lane and

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she just got clob I saw that. I want to say, clover,

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And I'm like, Okay, was
there a little more a little something behind

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that one or not? But and
you know, everybody's you know, they're

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gonna do the welcome to the w
NBA thing and that's fine, you know,

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And as long as she rolls with
it and plays and still is good,

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then fine. Well, Tarashi was
quoted again yesterday or the day before

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saying, uh, it's not like
I didn't warn you about this, because

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uh, it's not. She said. You're not playing against eighteen, nineteen

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twenty year old girls, right,
You're playing against women who've been in the

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league, you know the game,
who are crafty and whose jobs are on

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the line right right right, And
you guess what, little girl, you're

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here to take my job. I'm
gonna prevent you from doing exactly. You

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know. I'm sure they don't see
it that way, but you know what

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I'm saying, at the context where
where? And that's just the NBA too.

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Look, and you know what it
would be like. It's like that

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in every league, right of course, you know, Major League Baseball player

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comes up, you know, you
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you know, pittrol buzz them and
you know, welcome, welcome to the

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you know, welcome major League Baseball
or whatever. You know, it's there.

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These people are competitive and they're they're
in they're in these leagues because they're

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ultra competitive, more competitive than you
or I could ever be. And and

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uh yeah, and that's why they're
there exactly. It's funny because all you'll

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have rickings. I'll bring up something
later. Go ahead, Okay, guess

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tonight she has her home opener,
so we'll see if she does a little

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better in her second game. She
had a pretty rough, pretty pretty rough

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night. Yeah. Well, they
they're they're playing the New York Liberty,

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which has Sabrina I and Escu,
who is like the other chosen one,

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right, you know, who came
up through Oregon. Uh shoot, yeah,

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and can shoot the hell out of
the ball. You know, she

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had a three point shooting contest against
did she against Steph Curry and stuff?

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So you know, she's helped generate
some attention for all this as well.

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So the two of them be on
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there'll be a lot of people watching
that one. Yeah, so that games

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at four o'clock Mountain Standard time on
Prime video. If anybody wants to check

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that out. Let's move over to
the NFL. One of the topics on

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the NFL right now is the schedule
release and one of the teams that they're

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I guess there's some complaints about it. The Jets are heavy early on the

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primetime, right Is he gonna be
ready to play right away? Yeah,

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yeah, he's gonna play, but
you know it's like, okay, if

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he blows out his thing again in
the first game, you can have all

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these Jets games coming on, then
nobody's gonna want to watch. And they

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got six six primetime games this year. Yeah, on the for not having

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been any good in a while,
so kind of crazy that. You know,

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Hey, Aaron Rodgers moves the needle. The big game was I think

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the first game was Kansas City Baltimore. That's gonna be the opening, be

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a fantastic game. Yeah, rematched
the championship, so we'll see if Baltimore

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can get the revenge and yeah,
take down the defending defending again. Yeah,

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So let's switch over to g c
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Let me find it lost theirical one
second. Sorry, Grand Canyon is moving

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to he is moving to the w
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that will be starting in twenty twenty
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Right. That's that. That's the
league that Gonzaga is in. They've

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been in that, they've been in
the whack. The glan Can's been a

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little controversial, you know, because
there are for profit college and people say,

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you know, that's not what these
you know, are supposed to be.

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But you know, they've been playing
there, they've been playing television one.

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Colleges are not supposed to be for
profit. No, they're not,

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wonder Arizona, they're doing a good
job of not being for profit. Congratulations

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Arizona. You're doing exactly what you're
not supposed to be doing. Well,

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I did. You're supposed to make
some money, aren't you. No,

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colleges are supposed to make enough money
to continue to operate. That's all.

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That's what I try to do.
But anyways, because I remember Luke saying

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that he would he was never going
to play Grand Canyon, and they never

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did. No, they never did. But he was like in the later

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part, I don't remember him saying
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well they've gone through some coaches,
right because uh Marley one of our guys,

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friend of mine, Peneal was there
for a while before he because Marty,

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Marty took him, took it over. And now they have a good

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coach with the Bealpariso guy. Oh
the shot at the shot Scott Drew.

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Yes, no, no, no, no, Bryce, Yeah, which

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you know, it's surprising that in
the year or two if he continued,

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he'll go back to what he was
doing. He got fired at Vanderbilt.

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And so they go to the West
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Santa Clara, all those guys.
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It'll be interesting. Seattle University is
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conference to eleven full members for full
teams for the first time in its history.

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Okay, just adds a little bit
of competitiveness. What else you got

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over to the Lithuanian Basketball League former
Arizona Fordlis Cubilis Cubllis, you say his

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name, he wins the MVP.
No, go back, get up and

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do your thing. You wouldn't know
what it is, Okay, So go

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ahead and say what he was to
say, you were going to say that

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he's he won the m v P
of his league, the league he grew

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up watching. He became the m
v P in his first year. So

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this is Tubellus. He's saying this
to them. They kicked that's his voice.

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Okay, that's his voice. But
actually he kicked their asses and he

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became the MVP of his hometown,
hometown league. Well, good, good

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for him. What kind of new
I mean he was gonna get he would

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he would do well playing overseas and
you know these players who come here,

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they get this experience, this high
level experience, you know, in places

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like Arizona whatnot. You know,
Helena Poayo, she'll go to she'll go

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over to you know, overseas and
she'll play and she'll be a star.

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Reese was a star in Australia and
in Australia Astralia. Right, so she's

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going to anottle league now, but
she was like the MVP there right well

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right, so you know, and
he's probably making a pretty decent living over

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there. They love their basketball over
there, and he's a hometown guy,

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right, so you know, good
for him. Mom's cooking goes a long

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way. It does it? Does
you see his his brother graduated there was

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he was one of the was it
with his son who graduated? Yeah,

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so good for Zulus. Happy for
him. Yeah. I think in twenty

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seventeen eighteen he made sixty four percent
of two pointers, of two pointers and

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triples. He he kind of did
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triples. He was a decent shooter
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that was missing from his game because
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Now he's still in that same range. You know. Uh, he's probably

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never gonna play in the NBA.
He's just not an NBA athletic guy.

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Let me ask you something. Are
you almost done here? So Peterson sends

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me a note. Uh, I'm
sure you saw the thing on Twitter where

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that Johnson Keyshaw. Johnson had a
great workout. He was your workout guy

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for the combine. He jumped out
of the gym. No shock there.

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He did a lot of the intangibles
really well, no shock there. But

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now he has to play basketball,
right, So I guess. I guess

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at a game he and I he
said, who's gonna who's gonna get drapted

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ahead of one of the or the
other. It was Johnson or Pelle And

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I don't remember this. I said
pell Pelle and he bet me twenty bucks

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and I said, okay, And
then he got this news that he was

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doing really well. A combine to
me, Okay, what does that mean

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someone's gonna like you because you can
jump out of the gym all I So,

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I don't remember that, but I'll
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you know why, I never would
have made that bet, at least in

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my mind. I don't think any
get drafted. That's the only reason I

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said that. I said, I
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one will be drafted. But if
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bet. I don't think he's gonna
get drafted, would you. I don't

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see. I don't see Pella getting
drafted. But he is. He's been

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on has not been on any and
that's why, and that's my point.

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He's fantastic, being gifted. But
is he an NBA guy? Well,

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you know he you know, he's
he's he's like he's a guy that you

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would You're not gonna go get him
in the first round, but you know

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that you can put on your bench
and he can be useful. Do you

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get different? You get those guys
as a free agent. Yeah, that's

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my point. You bring yeah,
you bring him in, or you get

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him in as a second round pick
or whatever. And you get him in

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and he say, Okay, you
know, we've got some use for this

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guy. But that's you know,
that's what it takes. So that's my

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whole point. It also takes being
in the right place either one. Oh

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yeah, of course, you know
Michael Wright, all these guys between ers,

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whatever, and we'll see more power
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I just didn't think they would get
drafted. Yeah, now I hear

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you. And again you know,
you just get you get you. It's

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like the NFL drafted. You know, if you're going to get drafted in

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the seventh round, you might as
well just go as a free agent.

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So you can pick a spot right
that fits, fits, that fits.

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You know, there's a there's a
room for you there. You know that

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that's what you have to do.
The last thing I got is we're switching

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over to the PGA Championship Tiger Woods. He's a four time PGA Championship winner.

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He carted one over seventy two,
so he's I guess he's way back.

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Yeah. Well, Xander Shoftley shot
at nine under par sixty two,

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which is just crazy. I mean, and you got him this weekend.

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I picked it. Well, my
boy, he hasn't got the memo that

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the Jiggins always curse. We'll see
how that lasts. Yeah, he's uh,

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now he's not. He doesn't know
that that that the tag is on

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him, So we'll see. Uh, we'll see what comes up there.

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But uh no, I think that
uh you know, look, you know,

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here's here's I was having a conversation
with some folks about the Live Tour

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players Brooks, Koepka, Bryson to
Shambo, and Kepka's kind of up there.

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He's in the top ten today.
But I just can't help but feel,

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or think or theorize that these live
guys have sort of lost their edge.

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You know, they plan on the
Live Tour where you know, they've

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got their money, there's no pressure
to win, you know, every week

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and compete and stuff like that.
Then they come to the PGA Tour and

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come to the and playing these majors, and all of a sudden, these

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guys who were grinding every week and
it's like, and you haven't been do

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you lose your edge? And and
I kind of think you do. I

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think from the normal people like you
and me, you think they would.

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And I don't disagree with you because
every week you're you're you're playing for your

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your food, your survival, right, your survival, uh, and the

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survival is what do you want to
eat? Cavia or something. These guys

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you've got there one hundred million dollars
and you know, no no pressure.

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And I think that I just feel
like that that kind of matters. I

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don't know, I could be wrong, but I feel like that anything else.

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I have one from Channing Fry,
former U of a basketball player,

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you know he does his T and
T stuff in the basketball podcast. He

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was telling made a story, uh, telling JJ Reddick to do not go

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for that job. It's a kiss
of death job. Channing Fry, Oh,

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wow, because a kiss of death. Every coach they've had in the

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last few years goes there to get
fired because of obviously the main main event

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guy is Lebron and you have to
kind of stir the right. It's a

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place where you go to get fired. Wow, he says, don't do

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it because it's it's a no work
situation. And if you go there,

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like if you're JJ Reddick, you
go there and do a bad job,

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you have a tough time getting another
year. Yeah, so no, just

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pick your pick a better spot.
That's stuff. Don't go there, pick

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a better spot if you want to
coach. Interesting, very interesting who JJ

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Redick. He hasn't gotten the job. I don't. I don't know.

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But but the thing about it in
the in the NBA, if you're respected

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by the players as a coach,
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reports that they're they didn't really respect
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him. That's for darn sure.
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just kind of paying you know,
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Well, good job, good job. All right, okay, we're ready

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to hit our next break. We're
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We'll talk about some Arizona recruiting,
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for having me back. You must
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recruiting and all that stuff on two
sports. Yeah, I mean it really

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never stops these days. And you
know, something that we'll see if that

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eventually gets remedied, because it's not
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out a bunch of high schoo this
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for a lot of programs, and
there's coaches all over the place as well.

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couple of days and they're all out
on the road, and so even coaches,

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you know, they never have any
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this was a little bit of a
slower time of year, and it's just

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not that case anymore. It's kind
of a year round thing. And you

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know a lot of that has to
do with the portal, but everything kind

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of impacts everything else, and so
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deal now, covering recruiting and figuring
out where everyone's going to go at all

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these colleges. So you know,
one of the things big things everybody's waiting

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for here. Maybe maybe not.
It's sort of a recruiting thing because you're

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trying to recruit this guy back is
you know, Caleb Love whether or not

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he comes back, and then how
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you don't you know, you don't
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the latest? What do you know? What do you think? Uh?

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Where's that headed? Yeah, I
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until you get all of the information. But you know, the combine has

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been going on, and you know
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some guys that go to the G
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get pulled up and you've seen someone
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and Caleb Love has kind of been
caught in the middle of that, and

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obviously not getting an invite to the
Big Combine is notable because you know a

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lot of people who are making those
decisions about who goes to that are the

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ones that are going to be making
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and so I think you can kind
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and get an idea of kind of
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But if you're not a guaranteed first
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if I'm in that position to say, yeah, I'm going to stay in

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the draft. But I know there's
that appeal and sometimes players only need to

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here from one team that hey,
we're going to take you, we seek

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your first round talent, and that's
enough for them. But that just hasn't

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been the buzz around Caleb Love.
You know, it's he kind of is

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what he is, I think as
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a lot of NBA teams have kind
of decided what he is and there's not

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a ton of first round buzz with
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the feeling is that he's going to
eventually come back. I think there's obviously

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different things that can change in the
eleventh hour, and you know, it

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could go different ways, and sometimes
it's just you know, however, they

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wake up that day and they feel
like, you know, not never mind,

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I want to stay in the draft. I want to I think I

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have a shot. I think I'm
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the next level and get drafted,
and you know, things can change,

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but at least kind of reading how
everything has been so far and how it's

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played out, it just feels like
it's going to eventually lead to him coming

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back, which will obviously be very
big for Arizona, and you know,

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give them a proven player once again
at that position, and then someone who's

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into the battles and did a lot
of good things this last season. I

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would imagine that money might play a
factor if if not, because I'm sure

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he's going to get paid well here
in IL, I wouldn't have any figure

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because to me, he's not He's
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Yeah. So yeah, whether it's
five two hundred thousand and fifty thousand,

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I don't know, but I'm sure
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you have to think, you have
to think about those things. And again

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that's where I'm talking about. If
you're not a guaranteed first round pick and

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you're not slotted into yeah, I'm
gonna be on a roster, I'm gonna

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be making you know, a sizeable
amount of money at the NBA level,

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why not come back? I mean
you're seeing some of these players reportedly getting

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up to two million dollars to play
in college. I mean, you're just

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not gonna get that, you know, as a second round pick, or

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if you're a free agent and you're
gonna have to battle and really try and

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fight to get a roster spot in
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dollars if some team is going to
be you know, involved in doing that

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and want to give that to you. Washington just pulled a guy in as

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a transfer portal player that is importably
getting two million dollars. And so,

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you know, if you're gonna be
getting if you're talking about those types of

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numbers, even if you're talking about
you know, two hundred and fifty thousand

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guaranteed or whatever, however it's gonna
play out in the nil space. You

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know, if you're a player that's
on the fringe and it is not going

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to be a guarantee first round pick, why not come back to college,

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you know, be a star player
for whatever team you play for, and

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you know, maybe make some good
money in the process. And so I

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think that is the kind of the
big X factor in his whole whole deal.

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And I think that's a big part
of why you're seeing a lot of

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players test the waters because they can, you know, they can go through

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this entire process, gather all the
information that they need and return to school

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and go, you know, I'm
gonna collect my ANIL check and I'll be

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just fine, and now I know
what I need to work on and what

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I need to improve on for next
year. And I think that's why you're

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seeing so many players because they're definitely
were some head scratches when you saw that

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list come out of you know,
early entrant NBA players and you're like,

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oh, I didn't think that guy
even had a shot. But if they're

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gonna allow it, and they're gonna
allow you to go to go through the

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process and come back to school,
you know, why not. And so

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I definitely think the nil element is
kind of even as the playing field in

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a lot of ways. And you
know, it gives players a reason to

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go test the waters and feel it
out, and if not, they can

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come back and still feel like they're
making money and you're helping their families in

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a lot of ways. And then
that's you know, what their ultimate goal

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is and they want to be able
to, you know, make a living

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and so and al makes that possible. And a lot of people have different

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opinions on what it means for the
game and what it means in college athletics,

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but you know, it is a
big part. You can't overlook that

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element of this whole thing. So
I don't know, are you over thirty?

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Now how old are you? I
am over thirty. So you you

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reach the rivera age of being cranky
about all this we're getting. We're getting

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We're getting there day by day.
So does this make you cranky? All

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this stuff? I mean it does, I mean in a lot in a

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lot of ways. It's just there's
just a lot more layers. And the

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thing is like, you know whatever, I guess the FBI case kind of

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showed what was going on before and
it was not It's not necessarily only different

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from what was going on before.
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So it just makes it a little
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it, I think for a lot
of people, so suchial people in my

406
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position, and obviously fans of you
know, our website and subscribers of our

407
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:06.720
website and people who follow these things, and you want to believe, like,

408
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:08.359
hey, no, they're picking this
school because they love the school and

409
00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:11.519
they love the staff and they love
the fan base and they want to be

410
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:14.839
a part of this thing. But
it's become less so of that, and

411
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:17.920
you know, that's just kind of
part of this whole deal. And we

412
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.680
talked about that before, and you
know, it's it's not as much about

413
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that. It's especially for transfers,
it's a lot about what are what are

414
00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:27.119
the numbers? Let me know those
numbers and then I'll make a decision.

415
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:32.880
We're talking to Matt Modano from goisycast
dot com as well as rivals. Some

416
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man on the football side, you
know, coaches are now being raided on

417
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.279
their you know, transfer portal recruiting, uh and and how that's going.

418
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.960
Arizona's got some guys. There's still
some guys hanging out there. Elijah Badger,

419
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:49.799
the receiver from from a SU is
looking at three schools that all have

420
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:56.599
sort of a a jedfish connection.
You know what we're what, how well

421
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:59.279
do you think Brent Brandon has done
and what's left for them to do?

422
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:02.880
Yeah, I think they've done a
really solid job. I think there's obviously

423
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:04.079
some more players that are out there. And that's the thing is, just

424
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:08.279
because of the transfer portal window close
doesn't mean that you're gonna see transfer recruiting

425
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.640
stop. There's still a lot of
players in the portal. All the window

426
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.200
was was just that players could no
longer enter after you know, May first

427
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:18.480
and so. But there's still a
ton of players in the portal and there's

428
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.200
gonna be a lot of players that
eventually come out on visits. But I

429
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:25.200
think a lot of the work has
been done up to this point. You

430
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.039
know, Elijah Badger is obviously the
big name that's still kind of out there

431
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:30.880
for Arizona. He'll be making a
decision very very soon before the end of

432
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.720
the week, and Arizona's right in
the mix of it. And it is

433
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.759
funny that you mentioned the Jetfish connection, because they're all you can kind of

434
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.079
it's the six degrees of Jetfish.
I guess you know, everyone kind of

435
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:45.400
has a little bit of a of
a connection to Elijah Badger. It sounds

436
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.160
like Washington is probably out of it, out of the picture at this point.

437
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.359
I don't think you'll actually be joining
Jeff Fish. I think that'd be

438
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.559
a big surprise. Talking to a
lot of different people and kind of hearing

439
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.319
some things behind the scenes. I
don't think that's going to be the destination.

440
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.519
So then it comes down to is
he going to go to Arizona?

441
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.079
Are going to go to Florida?
And I think, you know, the

442
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.079
way it sounds are now, Florida
feels like it's probably in the better spot.

443
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:07.200
But I don't think you count Arizona
out. I think there's a lot

444
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.359
to be uh excited about. If
you're if you're Elijah Badger. And you

445
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.039
look at the situation at Arizona,
you look at the quarterback spot that's very

446
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.759
solidified. You look at the players
you're gonna have around you, especially offensively,

447
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.359
you know, to be able to
kind of play off of someone like

448
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.880
Teto McMillan and some of these other
guys that they have offensively. I think

449
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:30.759
that's a big deal for someone like
Elijah Basher and similar like we were talking

450
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:36.200
with Jamian Martinez from Oregon State when
they're going with Miami. I think the

451
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:41.119
positive even if Arizona doesn't get Elijah
Badger. I think the biggest thing that

452
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.480
you can really look at is that
Arizona's playing ball in terms of NIL because

453
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.920
you look at David Martinez, you
look at you know, Elijah Badger,

454
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:52.039
and and there's NIL is a big
part of this. You're talking about cools

455
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.599
Miami Florida that have NIL, and
you know that's gonna be a big part

456
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.799
of this equation. I just mentioned
what I mentioned about transfer portal players and

457
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:02.079
how much that's at the four up
for a lot of them. I think

458
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.119
it's a great sign that Arizona is
getting involved with these recruitments. It's not

459
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.319
I think I think the fact that
burn Brandon and his staff are doing a

460
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:12.559
good job and setting involved is a
good sign as well for the future and

461
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.559
what they're going to do recruiting wise. But I think the bigger messages that

462
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:22.079
Arizona's involved with some pretty premiere NIL
programs and that tells you they have some

463
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.960
money to spend, which is a
very good thing and if you're Arizona,

464
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.279
a positive thing for the future and
at least the investment going into the football

465
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:33.000
program and what it could become under
Burn Brandon. If they're already getting involved

466
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:34.680
with some of these players and becoming
a finalist for some of these players,

467
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.880
so you know, are gonna you
know, garner some big NIO money.

468
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.799
So I was before you went went
there with NIL, would you happen to

469
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:47.160
know? I know, I haven't
asked. Only Jay has what Arizona Arizona's

470
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:51.480
budget is with that, with that
overall, and you said they're being competitive,

471
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:55.200
so it must be pretty good.
There's numbers that are going to plot

472
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.359
it around. Is the number one
question that you try and get answered behind

473
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.880
the scenes, that nobody talks about
it. That's stilled the big hurdle when

474
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.160
you look at when you try and
cover this stuff. When you look at

475
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.920
all these things, there's agents involved. Now there's nil, collective is involved.

476
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:12.519
Everyone's protecting the numbers unless they want
it out there. So it's not

477
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.160
as prevalent as you think. There's
not people that are like throwing those numbers

478
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.480
around maybe hear about it after the
fact. I think the one thing that

479
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.079
I've kind of picked up along the
process and talked to some people, especially

480
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.440
earlier in the off season, was
that there's some high dollar figures that are

481
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.359
thrown out there, and that it
ends up being a lot smaller than what

482
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.720
people think. So if you're hearing
a million dollars, you're probably not the

483
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.519
person's probably not getting a million dollars, so they're not talking about that that

484
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.839
high. I think those numbers get
blown up que a bit, but it

485
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.519
is still significant money that's being spent
in the hundreds of thousands for certain players.

486
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.640
That's come up quite a bit,
and that's kind of been the norm.

487
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.559
Is you're talking about a starter level
player. There's a couple hundred thousands

488
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.759
of dollars that you're talking about when
it comes to nil, and so it's

489
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:57.759
been interesting to kind of hear some
of the numbers around as far as hard

490
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:02.000
concrete facts, people just don't and
gives that up. It's very it's still

491
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.440
pretty secretive. I think we're going
to get to a point in time where

492
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:10.680
that becomes less of the case and
we're talking about contracts and numbers and it's

493
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:14.240
all public information and people are going
to know exactly what's going on. We're

494
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.119
just not there yet, and so
so I don't have numbers for you because

495
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:21.279
it's very closely guarded. People just
don't talk about it. You can ask

496
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.759
players outright and they won't tell you. It's it's something that you know,

497
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:26.960
people don't want to talk about their
money. And as much as it's a

498
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.319
big part of this whole process,
it's it's still very much under wraps,

499
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.000
you know, a couple of years
into this whole Nile thing. And that's

500
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.960
one of the issues going forward right
there. In a lot of the what

501
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.400
they're talking about in terms of rules
around NIL. One of the things the

502
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.039
NCAA wants, I think at least, is for there to be some sort

503
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:48.880
of reporting so that kind of everybody
knows what they're dealing with. Whether that

504
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.759
come to fruition, I mean,
it's like so what you have to tell

505
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:53.000
how much you make in order to
make it. I don't know how they're

506
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:57.880
gonna ever say that that's that they
can do that. Yeah, I mean

507
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.359
eventually. Feeling is and talking to
different people who are involved at different levels,

508
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:06.920
and obviously it's still very much speculation. But the feeling is I think

509
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:09.920
that around for people around college athletics
is that it's going to look much more

510
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.039
like the pros. You're gonna have
maybe a salary cap, You're gonna have

511
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:17.759
people reporting these numbers. It's it's
gonna become a lot more public and people

512
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.480
you're gonna know what you know,
test Roe McMillan is making or no Fafida

513
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.640
is making, and you're just it's
just gonna be well known. And how

514
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:27.960
you get to that point. We'll
figure that out, I guess as it

515
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.119
goes on and we'll see how it
plays out. But the feeling is that

516
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.799
that is eventually what it's gonna become. It's going to look a lot more

517
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.359
like the pros, and you're gonna
have you know, there's already a lot

518
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.640
of GM types within college athletics.
There's a lot of people within these uh

519
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:45.119
you know, programs that are now
considering themselves general managers. And so if

520
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.480
you look at a lot of programs
around the country, they're kind of going

521
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:52.119
more towards that model where coaches are
kind of coaching, and then your talent

522
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.880
evaluators, your player personnel people are
really the ones going after the players and

523
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.599
saying, hey, these are the
players we're bringing to you. Now you

524
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:02.960
go coach. So it's kind of
starting to see those wheels turn a little

525
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.880
bit more after college level, and
I think it's only going to be more

526
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:09.960
so the case as we keep going
on in these years and as the game

527
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.920
continues to change and shift, And
I do think it's eventually just going to

528
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:16.680
become a lot more public, and
you're going to know kind of exactly what

529
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:22.079
everybody's making in NIL and well that
eventually becomes an actual contract and they're making

530
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.119
straight up getting paid to play for
college programs. We'll see, but I

531
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:28.759
think it's going to become a lot
more transparent. And I agree, and

532
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.200
I think, again, what you're
just alluded to, I think everybody evolved

533
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:34.599
out to see it become a lot
more transparent because there's a lot of gray

534
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.880
area right now. And if there's
a gray area, we know people in

535
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.640
college athletics will try and work within
that gray area. So I think the

536
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.480
hope is that eventually becomes more black
and white and more clear, but just

537
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.119
not there yet. Even if it
becomes black and white, as you were

538
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:52.359
speaking, I'm thinking there's still going
to be players and boosters who are going

539
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.359
to be in those handshakes that we
used to familusly talk about ten twenty years

540
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.160
ago are still going to exist even
with their contract. Yeah. Yeah,

541
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.119
I mean, I think that's always
going to be part of the game,

542
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.920
and it's going to be there's gonna
if there's a way to get an advantage,

543
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:07.880
there's gonna be someone who wants to
figure out how they can get that

544
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.559
advantage. Yeah. Okay, well, Matt, thanks a bunch, good

545
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.639
luck, spend the rest of this
sea relaxed this summer. At some point

546
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:19.960
we'll see, We'll see, Okay, maybe July. You we'll focus on

547
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.719
July. Okay, thank you,
Thank you, Matt. Matt more from

548
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seventy four forty Just a couple of
quick things I found out just now.

596
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First game in the tournament lost lost
to Vegas, to the j C and

597
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Vegas. So now they have a
work cut out for that double domination tournament,

598
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:12.199
I think. So. Yeah,
yeah, district tournament. Good enough

599
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to play in it. So,
but they lost their first game. And

600
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then there was something for breaking news
the shortstop. You wa short stop and

601
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you see the Mason. Mason is
now a Dick Howser Trophy semi finalist.

602
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:28.400
He hit he hit a massive Yeah
you're talking about the other day. Yeah,

603
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:30.280
I think it was a big dude. He's not a big dude,

604
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:36.199
and I mean he it was like
it went like four to seventy and if

605
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you it was one of those homers
where is he lefty too? Yes?

606
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:42.199
Left he's a lefty. One of
those homers where you you know, when

607
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.760
you're watching the video from behind the
picture and he hits it and you just

608
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:47.599
go, oh, that's gone,
because you just knew, what's that?

609
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:52.519
What's the guy? I forget his
name? Uh surprised the center fielder for

610
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:58.599
UB A couple three years ago,
very good. Yeah, not not a

611
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.639
couple of last year. Was I
think two years ago? Okay, I

612
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:02.679
know what you're thinking of, and
I can't think of a swinging swing.

613
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:08.000
Yeah. Yeah. Chase Davis even
the baseball name, right, that's a

614
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:12.679
baseball name. He was fantastic.
Yeah. I would maybe google him to

615
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.599
see if you find out where he's
at and how he's doing, because he

616
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:17.159
was one of those lefties that you'd
say, God, I wish I could

617
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.920
swing the ball like him, swing
the bat like very cool. All right.

618
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.719
I remember watching him a couple of
years ago when I went to a

619
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:27.239
lot of the games he was.
It was like you had to stop what

620
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.039
you're doing to watch him right to
play because he was one of those great

621
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.119
players. Okay, Steve, you're
gonna get a chuckle out of this.

622
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:39.440
This just came up on on on
on Twitter and reposted by by Darren Ravel.

623
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:46.920
It's it's uh the amount of money
bet on various sports in at Colorado

624
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:52.079
sports books. Okay, okay,
not a surprise. Right at the top

625
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.280
of the list basketball and I think
it's pro basketball because then they've got a

626
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:59.639
category for Incy double A basketball.
So two hundred and thirty million dollars on

627
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:05.679
pro bat basketball, one hundred and
two million dollars on NCAA basketball. Next

628
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:10.599
is tennis tennis, twenty nine million
dollars bet on tennis. After that it's

629
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:14.840
ice hockey, which you know they
got They got the Avalanche, you got

630
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:19.639
team. So the twenty two million
on hockey, twenty one million on soccer,

631
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:27.239
and I'll give you thirty guesses at
the next one. Well, that's

632
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:30.039
just where the trick ques. Fourteen
million dollars bet on this in Colorado.

633
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:36.239
I don't know ping pong? Oh? Really, table tennis? You bet

634
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:44.760
on pin? I guess, And
here's the kicker. It's higher than baseball.

635
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:51.039
Wow, Colado, thirteen million dollars
bet on baseball? Doesn't it surprises

636
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.760
me? It surprises me. But
remember where the Olympic headquarters are in Colorado

637
00:40:54.760 --> 00:41:00.360
Springs. How much of a degenerate
you have to be? Let me one

638
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:05.639
ask one. Okay, I've never
bet on table tennis ever. It's funny.

639
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.199
It's funny because I play, obviously
playing, uh and TJ plays.

640
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.440
I didn't know he plays. And
we're gonna have a tournament at the house

641
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:15.719
someday soon. But yeah, if
you're betting on I wouldn't even know who

642
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.320
I want to wear? What?
What would you bet on? Just a

643
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.320
player? Just yeah? Match?
Okay? More was bet on table tennis,

644
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:27.559
then on baseball, then on golf
in Colorado, then on M M

645
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.639
A. And there's a lot of
gambling on M m A. Right,

646
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:37.320
isn't that crazy? Yeah? I
wouldn't tis. I wonder what levels too?

647
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.760
Did you even get to watch it? Where do you watch it?

648
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:46.239
Uh? Yeah? No? Remember
are they betting on ATX throwing and and

649
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:51.280
and and hornhole? You know,
maybe a little curling, you know,

650
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:57.119
from the Olympics. I love curling, But fourteen million bucks bet on table

651
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:01.039
tennis, like pickle ball's not on
there? Because that's exactly I mean.

652
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:06.360
I still make fun of the fact
that a dearly departed friend of mine,

653
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:13.559
right right, uh who one time
bet on women's Olympic hockey women's Uh they

654
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.519
could be back. And you know, in Vegas, we were in Vegas

655
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:22.159
for something and uh, and there
was a women's Olympic hockey game on the

656
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.280
board and you bet on it.
And to me, that's like a level

657
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:30.440
of degenerate that it's hard to surpass. But if you're betting on table tennis.

658
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:37.039
I think you. I think that
surpasses that. I almost feel like

659
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:42.360
I want to go bet on that
and just keep the ticket, right and

660
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.320
not even even if I win,
just keep the ticket. Just I once

661
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:50.400
bet on table tennis and just and
just frame the ticket. Okay, I've

662
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.480
done I've done that though, I've
framed the ticket. Yeah. Oh,

663
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:57.000
I have a I had to make
a like a frame thing for my brother

664
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:02.280
with a program and a photo and
his ticket. Uh. When American Pharaoh

665
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:07.039
ran in delmart after he won the
Triple crinst and I've got this ticket and

666
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.719
I didn't cash it, and I've
got the I took a picture and then

667
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:14.760
he had the program still, So
I put all that in a nice little

668
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:17.280
frame I have. I have the
ticket from the Triple Crown to them,

669
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:23.719
two two dollars winners from the Triple
Crown from Bill from Belmont because Bill Baffort

670
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:29.239
got it. Buy two winning tickets. Don't cash them. They're worth you

671
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:30.840
know whatever, four bucks whatever.
Yeah, but don't cash them. Just

672
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.599
bring them back to me. Have
a middle frame there. Yeah, cool,

673
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.639
very cool. Anyway, did you
see it start? Did you you

674
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:39.400
read the Athletic every now again?
Yeah? So there was a free preb

675
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:44.519
from Dana O'Neill on Bafford yesterday or
last night. A very good story on

676
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:50.360
just his thoughts on the whole situation
everything with him involving Churchill downs. He's

677
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:52.599
kind of moving on from it.
He's hoping that the next year they man,

678
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.800
he's gonna kind of be low profile
when it comes to that. He

679
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.039
has a chance this weekend. I
don't know if he'll win it, but

680
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:02.079
uh, he has a chance.
His first horse, the Favorite, is

681
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:07.480
out out, so he has another
horse called the Imagination, So maybe he

682
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.280
wins it. I'm not sure I'll
bet it. But what what what do

683
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:14.639
you think, daven what's gonna How's
he? How does he get back into

684
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:16.920
that well? I mean and will
will he? This will always be his

685
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:21.159
reputation, won't it. Yeah.
Yeah, he's seventy one years old.

686
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:23.320
He could he could train until he's
one hundred, right, you know,

687
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:27.639
because he's that guy and d Wayne
Lucas is like in his eighties and he's

688
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.360
still doing it. Uh, it's
gonna follow him, obviously, but he's

689
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:35.639
still one of the best trainers and
outside of Churchill and a few of the

690
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:39.400
trainers inside the room, Uh,
he's still Bob Bafford. He's still one

691
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:45.320
of the best in the business because
he my guy's here. White men and

692
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.400
Watson have horses with him, fantastic
horses with him, and a lot of

693
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:52.119
owners of horses. You know,
if I had that money, because guess

694
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.519
what's where it's going. That's where
it's going. A guy who can win,

695
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:58.639
and he's a winner, and he's
done a lot of things. Uh,

696
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:02.400
this happened unfortunately. Yeah, but
you know, Uh, I hate

697
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:06.280
to bring the name up, but
I will. Uh. The other U

698
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.159
a grad who had the he had
the player Placher had the one you have,

699
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:13.360
the favorite in the last pretty in
the last derby, he finished fifteenth

700
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.519
or whatever. He got in trouble
last year for stuff. He just wasn't

701
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:20.239
at the Kentucky Derby. So it's
just you know, the level of trouble.

702
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.599
Yeah. Uh, but he's he's
still one of the best games.

703
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:29.159
They love him in California because all
he does is win. Yeah, and

704
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.360
and and he's still I mean,
his name still rings. I think the

705
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:37.159
question will ask you ask that same
question to d because now she's been in

706
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.400
it for two years. She knows
the players now and she probably better answered

707
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:45.760
the question because she knows she's talked
to him, she spent some time interviewing

708
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:47.519
him. So I mean, we'll
talk about that time. Well, she'll

709
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:52.039
be on tomorrow. We'll talk about
about that and talk about the breakness.

710
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:55.400
You know. I'm not even gonna
be home when it when it runs,

711
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:58.440
so I don't know that I'll eaven
bet on it. Yeah, it should.

712
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:00.880
It's the thing got to be.
It's not as exciting as the last

713
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:05.639
few years because, uh, you
know, Dan might win it again,

714
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:09.440
but the the field is a lot
smaller. Yeah, and the excitement is

715
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:13.000
not gonna be like it was two
weeks ago. You see what who was

716
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:16.320
it? Jason Kelsey said the other
day about Secretariat. No, I want

717
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:19.239
to smack him in the head.
What do you say said that? He

718
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.719
said, there's no doubt Secretariat was
juiced up. No, I didn't see

719
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:27.599
that. Yeah, And I'm like, you know what, you need to

720
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.760
get your face kicked in by Secretariat? All right, stand right, stand

721
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.480
right there, let's Secretary kick you
right in the nuts, because I mean,

722
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:37.000
come on, man, that's what
that's like. That's like, you

723
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.559
know, that's like saying the pope
was juiced up? Right? I mean,

724
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:45.079
it's secretariat is like royalty in all
sports. Who said this is Don

725
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:50.559
Travis Jason, his brother brother,
Yeah, on a podcast, and I'm

726
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.519
like, what do you Why would
he say that? And what context?

727
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.599
I don't know, I don't know, and and and why why would you?

728
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:00.280
Why would you go after horse?
It has been dead for like thirty

729
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:04.440
years. Yes, he'll go after
dead people or did horse come on?

730
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:08.480
Man? Ah? God? Well
oh he said it on the podcast.

731
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:12.280
Yeah, on the podcast. Yeah, okay, yeah, you'll have to

732
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.159
go look that up. People with
radio shows and podcasts you can see whatever

733
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:21.000
they want. God, I mean
the horse that I here to defend himself,

734
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.559
well, who knows? Well,
probably not, probably not. Have

735
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.119
you ever seen the movie the Disney
movie that came out with Diane Lane very

736
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:32.320
good. Yes, this is corny, but it was fun. You know,

737
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.840
the only thing that bugs me about
the movie is that is that the

738
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:43.960
the the horse racing scenes weren't at
the actual tracks were of those races took

739
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.559
place? Right? I think I
looked it up. They ran them at

740
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:52.880
oh god, I can't remember where. But what like the Belmont was not

741
00:47:53.440 --> 00:48:00.159
there was not be yeah whenever you
yeah, but you know, but it's

742
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:05.000
a it's a corny movie. But
this is gonna sound weird, but Secretary

743
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.960
was kind of like a hero to
me. It was just like that horse

744
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.960
is so damn good. And you
know, I was what I think I

745
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:15.199
when I was fourteen, when thirteen
years old? When oh yes, when

746
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.880
well that summer I turned fourteen,
that summer seventy three and uh and uh

747
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:22.400
god, how do I? How
do I? How do you? Well?

748
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:27.559
Of course we know that with that, we couldn't remember nineteen or twenty

749
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.880
twenty four yesterday. Well, those
races can pop up on my social media,

750
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:35.280
uh you know, all three races
at different you know, different times

751
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.440
on TikTok, on my Facebook feed, on Twitter and stuff. And I

752
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:43.320
just watch that every time, especially
that that that that Bellmont Stakes. I

753
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:46.880
mean just like just talk about an
athlete that just kicked a crap out of

754
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:52.239
everybody and just left no doubt about
its greatness. And that was that was

755
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:55.199
so cool, right right, you're
gonna watch I know you're not, probably

756
00:48:55.199 --> 00:49:00.639
won't watch this the Tyson Tyson fighting. No, I want to because I

757
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:05.119
hope he wins. And I don't
know about winning because I'm sure the punchers

758
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.719
are gonna be legit. Yeah,
but how legit? Will it be?

759
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:12.199
Right? Yeah? Because he's not
the other guy's not too likable. Yeah,

760
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.599
and that's funny because Tyson's not too
likable, but he's unlikable. He's

761
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.960
becoming you know what made him likable
the movie The Hangover. Let's take this.

762
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:24.519
Let's take this, cust Hi,
you're on the Aaron on the ball.

763
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.760
Hi fella, it is your buddy, Jim. Hey, Jim,

764
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.199
what's up? Well? I heard
you actually talking about baseball for a few

765
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:37.280
minutes and wry Walker's name came up. Yes, he's one of my probably

766
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:42.239
top two or three favorite players of
all time. Really, why why is

767
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:47.639
that? Well? He was such
a gifted, well rounded athlete. That

768
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:52.760
guy in one year hit forty nine
home runs and three sixty three I think

769
00:49:52.800 --> 00:50:00.559
it was, yeah, and spool
twenty bases. Yep. You I got

770
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:06.119
to see him up close and in
person down here at you know, at

771
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:10.920
the Reed Park, Yeah and the
Diamonds when we played. And spectacular athlete.

772
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:15.519
He didn't look the part, but
he could move, he could jump,

773
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:19.199
he could run everything well. And
he had one of those he had

774
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:24.079
one of those really pretty left handed
swings just a beautiful swing. He could

775
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:29.679
swing three quarters and hit it out
to center field. Yeah, yeah,

776
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.400
no, I I liked him a
lot because for that part, and also

777
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:37.199
because the Rockies were never really ever
a danger to the Dodger. So but

778
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:43.960
he was. I hear you.
It always is, Jim, feel my

779
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:49.840
pain, feel my pain. Every
day in this room thinking Dodgers. That's

780
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:58.440
that's turned into a money laundering operation. It is like, whoever can spend

781
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:04.559
a trillion dollars will win the baseball
this year. Well, they're not guaranteed

782
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.239
to win it, but they're they're
doing very well, as well as they

783
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:08.880
should be. Uh, they went
through a tough stretch, but all of

784
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:14.320
a sudden they are Steve. They
don't have their pitching set up, Yeah,

785
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:17.639
but they're going to shortly. Yeah, they're starting to. If no

786
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:22.400
one else gets injured, they're gonna
be just amazing. Yeah yeah, all

787
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.480
right, ja, and we got
to hit the road, top of the

788
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:27.800
hour, end of the show.
So thanks for calling. Appreciate it,

789
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:32.360
yep, thank you. By Yeah, No, they he made the pitching

790
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:37.480
is the key to the Dodge and
they're they're they've got a patchwork staff right

791
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.639
now. But what's happening is that
they're kind of the back end pictures are

792
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:44.440
getting some really good experience and pitching
really well. Walker Buelder just came back.

793
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:47.880
Clayton Kershaw is still on the you
know, on the shelf for now.

794
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:51.559
But if they get you know,
some of their stud pitchers back,

795
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:55.159
they're they're gonna, yeah there the
other they're like a six like a six

796
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.440
game lead in the West, and
they start a series tonight with your Reds.

797
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:08.119
So we'll see what happens your Reds, Cincinnati Reds. You know they

798
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:12.639
are. You're trying to hide.
You're like you like that guy that's got

799
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.239
the bottle of booze in the paper
bag. You don't want anybody to know

800
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:19.199
you're drinking it what you're drinking.
But you're you're, you're, you're,

801
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:22.039
you're, you're, you're drinking the
red You guys don't believe me, but

802
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:28.119
uh as they say, you couldn't
care less. You know you do,

803
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.119
you know you do. You're just
trying to convince everybody. You're trying to

804
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:36.679
keep that rapid. As a non
sports fan, kind of all right,

805
00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:38.559
I headed out to the the uf
A Gang tonight. I at least I

806
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:42.719
am Steve's bailed out on that,
but we'll see how that goes. Are

807
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.119
trying to clinch the back off championship
tonight and if they do, uh,

808
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you know, good on them.
So we'll see what happens. Uh.

809
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But see at the ballpark. Hope
there's a bit crap and then we will

810
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see you back here tomorrow. We're
gonna talk some horse races, so be

811
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sure to come around.