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You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio
Network, the best in paranormal talk radio

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in the UK and around the world. There are more than a thousand musical

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records made around the world every month. Nine of them are flops, but

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ten percent are not. These are
called hit songs, and how they're made

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is one of the most closely guarded
secrets in the entertainment business today. Join

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us now as Mac and the gang
take a deep dive into the strange world

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of hit music and people who make
it. This is Mac Maloney's Musical X

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Files and now here's Mac. Good
evening. I'm looking Mac Maloney's musical X

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Files here on the Distant Thunder Radia
Network. This is what a show we

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have for you tonight, special all
music show. Let me introduce the members

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of the Posse Girls. He's here. Sit yourselves down, get your big

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box of cleenics, your big box
of wipes, squeezing you loub Do we

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do this on the music shows?
God yeah, we do, okay,

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because he's here across the puddle,
the very famous one. One. I'm

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here, Mac. Thank you for
letting me be on the show. I

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know I'm a regular guest, but
we'll not a guest. I'm so part

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of the show, but sometimes I
feel like I'm a guest because you make

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me seem so special. I'm here, you know, every week, and

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you don't take me for granted at
all. How come we be across the

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pond. I loving every minute of
everything I do here, and it's just

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a delight. It's a pleasure,
is all mine, and I really appreciate

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it. I'm thinking about it for
years now. Really, how long have

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I been on the show? Ten
years we've been it's almost I think it's

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eight years. Eight years. It's
crazy. Yeah, it didn't seem like

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that lot. No, not one, because I haven't so much fun.

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That's why I have so much fun. And I appreciate the carts and letters

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that come in from the ladies not
so much lately though. She's kind of

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tailed off. We've been to hold
them. We've been holding them. They

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have to be submerged for thirty days, remember that. Okay, So anyway,

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thank you wing one for being here. Also, you're welcome in the

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studio. In the house, we
talk about her a lot, but she

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doesn't come on the yea very often. There's very lovely Lois Lane Lois.

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Hi, everyone, it's nice to
be here. Okay, hello, Lewis,

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I know you, I'm great,
Thank you, feeling good. That's

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good. Excited about listening to all
of you talk about music while I just

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well, you know, you know
as much as weeder, then okay,

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we're not gonna get into it.
I want to paint even close to true.

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Somebody just talked about what was that
band that never heard of them,

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never heard the song, and he
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they were going into the rock and
Roll Hall of Fame, and I had

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never even heard of them, So
maybe the Canadian rock and roll I'm just

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like that. If I want to
paint the picture tonight, Lois looks like

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the Pecuy librarian with the thing a
picture that yeah, that's not even I'd

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be happy to pay on the rights. I'm just saying, okay. Also

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with us, now there's a cop
in the room, so watch it.

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Also with us is a good friend, Bruce Vogel down there in New York

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City. Bruce, how you doing. I'm doing good. Mac, big

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music fan, met John Lennon a
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and you were rum on the NYPD. How long twenty one years. I

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actually retired about six months after nine
to eleven. Mm hmmm, So how

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many people did you shoot those twenty
one yeares? Thankfully zero? Yeah,

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well okay, yeah you told me
that ones that how many times did you

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even pull out your gun? You'd
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to hit people, right, Oh, pulling out the gun was was a

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pretty uh, pretty common thing.
I you know, worked in Bedsty and

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Brownsville in East New York and the
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was fairly common. But uh,
I think it's a bit of a misconception

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that you know, cops, you
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just that's just not the case,
thankfully. Also, have you ever been

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shot? I am not sure that
heard shots fired many many times, came

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very very close to shooting somebody and
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And uh, I think I told
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want to take up too much time. We were doing a four to twelve

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and my partner and I were driving
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tour and there's this guy in the
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We were like, oh, crap, and yeah, what happened, buddy?

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He said, Oh, somebody just
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big back in the day because Yellow
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but people would drive their own car. They were run licensed livery drivers

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and for a dollar they would take
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so. So this guy stole his
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we found the guy driving down the
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him, and we moved in on
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luckily enough we were able to you
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and lock them up. Yeah,
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know, I've read your stories.
I can't imagine doing any of it,

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but you know I couldn't either,
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of funny stories from the amazing job. I don't know how you do it.

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Also thanks also with us. Is
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our pal? How is it?
Because I mispronounced Matt's name for ten

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years before I finally realized I was
staying around. He's just too polite to

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correct exactly. So nice Matt Malley
out there in California. How are you,

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Matt double m I'm good at what's
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just a label, you know,
right, Matt as uh listeners regular listeners

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knows. So is this a label
without the use by date? They very

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good one one. Matt played fourteen
years. Matt played for fourteen years in

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the Counting Crows, big rock band. And he's a recovering rock star,

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all right, Matt, Yes,
yes, on recovery. Look at my

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wounds. That's funny. So and
you live in someone's It was fairly famous,

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at least in the music world.
You bought this house. And that

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was the engineer from Michael Jackson,
right, yeah, a fellow he died

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a few years ago named Bruce Swedeen. And Bruce engineered the Michael Jackson records.

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I think he produced a couple of
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Jones's engineer. So when Quincy Jones
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his man. He worked with Quincy
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that's amazing. Yeah yeah, incredible,

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definitely maybe my favorite producer. Maybe
just incredible town. Yeah yeah,

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we used to hear his. Trevor
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It's a label, nothing else,
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Well, I've got to tell you
first, thank you for having me in

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the show. I love being on
the show. I love listening to the

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show. So thank you. I
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totally sincere, not a joke.
I think I think the mean Tanner Martin

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which we came up with the last
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seriously think that might be the one. Oh really, yes, okay,

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but that was Tanner Martin. Really, yeah, Tanner Martin, that's the

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one that we came up with.
It's not working for you. Well,

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it sounds like a picture in the
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know if you can tell I'm a
little melancholy today. It's I got some

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unfortunate news. I was I was
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Didn't they don't my performance, no
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moving on to the pastures. I'll
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adventure is but I was fired for
the fresh light, so I'd like to

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pull all support from them. Let's
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of the matinalone in minions and uh
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flash fresh lights. Let me let
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been really fired from your job,
I mean, Lois does. So I'll

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explain it to when we think commercial, let's let's let's play it wrong and

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and see how long she goes with
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the position where I have to explain
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Okay, and this is this was
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very much. So anyway, we're
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gonna be talking about music. Musical. We like music, we don't like.

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Bruskee has met drom Lennon a couple
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like to hear those stories. But
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rock and roll trivia. Okay,
is that right? Lois? I think

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we are. Can you read that
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do it? And you'd like to
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long, sure I can. Okay, you'll be one of the plays.

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So here we go. I guess
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months ago. Can you read it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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okay, here we go. Let's
see who's the highest band? Who's

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the highest paid performer at Woodstock?
Who is the highest paid performer at Woodstock?

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They got eighteen thousand dollars? Okay, this is a this is a

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multiple choice. Okay, the Who? Jeffson Airplane, Jimmy Hendrix, Santana.

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It was the highest paid performance,
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backing. Let's see, well,
just I don't know, Bruce, start

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with you. I thought the Who
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Okay, what do you say,
Matt? Yeah there, can you hear

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me? Yeah? Yeah, I
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Who? Because they came from overseas, so it's going to be the Who.

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Trevor Santana, Wannie. Yeah,
I'm thinking of Santana. That's funny.

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That's what I was thinking too.
But that's all I can say.

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You're all wrong. Oh, whoa, whoa. Actually, I was going

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to say nobody, because nobody got
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Jimmy Hendrix. Jimmy Hendrix could paid
eighteen thousand dollars. Yeah. Oh,

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I thought he'd got discovered there.
I didn't know he was. He was,

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he was around before then did he
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played in the middle of the night. Hm hmm. Yeah, that's that's

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kind of surprising. Yeah, okay, here we go. Question number two.

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What band besides the Beatles has the
longest running fan club? Okay,

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what band beside the Beatles besides the
Beatles have the longest running fan club?

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The Rolling Stones, led Zeppelin,
the Hollies are Queen, longest running,

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longest running fan club. It's still
around the Stones, led Zeppelin, Hollies

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are Queen. See. I would
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I know they still have their official
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the Monkeys, the Monkeys, Yeah, but they're not on the young Ones.

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I think I have a friend that's
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to it. I'm the all dead
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what do you say, longest friending
fan club next to the Bills, the

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Stones Lowess. So I would have
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long, but I thought, I
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Okay, Brose, I think the
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gonna have to go with Lowess.
Say the Hollies, Matt, Yeah,

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me too, the Hollies because they've
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and you're saying the Monkeys, what
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them joining here the Hollies. I
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Okay, don't listen to me anybody. Well, yeah, that's good

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advice, because you're all wrong.
You're all wrong again. It's Queen Queen

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Goodness, hey, Matt, because
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two years ago. Yeah, a
couple of years ago. I went out

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for like nine months playing Queen music. It was awesome. It was unbelievable.

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We saw him twice. We saw
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which was a nice, nice there
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man, when we saw you at
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both shows. I told everybody I
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I don't know, there was something
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into it and the music it was
nuts. Oh, it was everybody moving,

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every single one. You saw him, right, you saw right?

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Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that
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And when we met backstage before the
first show, we're going him, you

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know, and then he comes out
and he is Freddy Mercury from the second

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he hits the stage, every movement, every move but but but engaging with

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the audience too. You know.
A lot of it was really those It's

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really a couple of really cool clowns. That's mat. Those really fun.

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Thanks. Yeah, thanks for coming
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Yeah, you're having a good time. My favorite Queen album and Being Dead

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series. Did you play anything from
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I really do, Uh huh,
I don't think so. And we did

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use the Flash the original recordings to
cut to the prese hit the stage.

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It was the music before we'd come
on stage. Yeah. Yeah. They

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even coordinated a light the light show
with the with that main track that was

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kind of the hit. Uh No, but I'm sad to say. I

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don't think we played anything from that
record. Lile. Yeah, I have

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an original print on vinyl. I
love that album. Yeah, awesome.

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That's a great record, isn't it. I mean, you know, I

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think they're not underrated at all.
You know, there's a there's a three

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like you wouldn't believe. Okay,
and the guy, the bass player pulled

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him out of the depths twice.
He came up with that bum bad you

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know he did that? Is that
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thing called love? They had,
they had nothing going and that clown came

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out and boomed. They're big again. They're playing stadiums. Really interesting,

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really interesting. Wow, Okay,
I didn't know that. Here we go.

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What famous singer and performer recorded more
than six hundred sons with zero writing

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credits? Okay, what famous singer
slash performer recorded more than six hundred signs

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with zero writing credits? Really?
Elvis, Frankie Dino or Elmo? Okay,

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forgot all right? What famous singing
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with zero writing credits? In other
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was written by someone else, right, Elvis, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin,

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Elmo, oh my gosh, let's
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a long time money Els. Okay, Matt says Elvis. Go ahead,

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Trevor, we'll go this way.
Elvis. I just saw the movie Priscilla,

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and I think from what I saw
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well. One one Frank Sinatra,
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much. Wonas he recorded but didn't
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I'm going to say. Dean Martin, M Okay, well, you're

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not all wrong this time. It's
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what they say that they what he
what they used to do. And you

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know, I guess when he was
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would come in, they'd have a
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and so he say okay. But
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you know, even though he didn't
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credit just for recording the song,
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wrote the sign and say why not, you know what I mean? Elvis

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is gonna obviously have a hit with
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M hmm. Okay, And what
I need my snare drum? Can you?

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Can you tap dancers? Saying no, Lois, I'll get it top

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dance. Why didn't you desposit?
Give me a little traveling music that Now

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everything feels right here we go?
Okay. Of these four Rolling Stone albums,

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which was the first without Bill Wyman, Okay, of these four Rolling

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Stone albums, which was the first
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Lounge, A Big a Bang,
Hackney Diamonds. Okay, Dirty Dirty Work,

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Voodoo Lounge A bigger Bang, Hackney
Diamonds, first one they did without

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Bill Wyman. One, We'll go
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Hackney Diamonds. Okay, Lois,
I'm gonna say the Voodoo one because I

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have no I'm just gonna go with
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Bruce Well, Hackey Diamonds just came
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Yes, I'm gonna go with I'm
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Matt Well you know Voodoo Lounge was
the Counting Crows actually toured a little bit

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with them during Voodoo Lounge. And
that was the mid nineties. That was

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more than ten years after why I'm
and left. So it's probably not Hackney

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Diamonds and it's not Voodoo Lounge.
What were the other two choices? Dirty

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work, bang and a bigger bang? What is it against dirty work and

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a bigger bang? Dirty work?
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so I'm just going with Voodoo Lounge. Wow, we got everyone? Yeah,

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it is Voodoo Lounge. Oh that
because it was fun to say exactly.

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There's a joke in there somewhere that
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Okay, here we go. Ready. How many drummers have played for ac

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DC? Oh? Jeez? How
many drummers have played for a c d

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C? Just one? Two,
eight or twelve? Wow? Go?

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Would you go to you, Matt? Eight? Okay, it's a real

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spinal tap moment, isn't it,
Trevor. I'm going to twelve. One.

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Can't be that many? Gonna be
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again? One? Well? One, two, eight or twelve? I'll

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go with eight? Okay? Well? Wash I feel like it's I don't

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know, isn't there famous I guess
for having a lot of drummers. I

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guess I want to say too,
because everybody else picked the hind ones.

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But I'll just say two too,
Bruce, because I know very little about

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ac DC, the guy who plays
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Yeah, the answer is twelve.
Twelve. Wow, wow, Wow,

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I can start the spinal card.
They just keep dying and something that's

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a lot. Okay, vomit,
somebody else's vomit. The one reason I

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said twelve is that I understand they're
pretty difficult to deal with, those guys.

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You know what would they be difficult
about the you know, the world.

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I don't want them murder somebody or
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right right? Okay, got a
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See it's hard Yeah, no,
no, But this actually isn't a

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question. It's okay, we go
which band? Which of these four bands

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are the only ones to have a
number one hit? Okay, which of

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these bands is the only one to
have a number one hit? Led Zeppelin,

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The Who, The Moody Blues,
Creeden's clear Water, Okay, only

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one of those bands had a number
one hit Zeppelin, Who Moody Blues,

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Creeden's clear Water, Bruce Moody Blues, Lois clear One, Moody's Trevor C.

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C R. Because I'm feeling one
of their songs became very anthemic during

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Vietnam. Matt if Sara Way to
Heaven was never a number one, I'd

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be a little surprised. So I'm
gonna say Zeppelin, it's it's the Moody

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Blues. Oh yeah, so it
must been Tuesday Afternoon. I'm thinking,

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you know, are one of their
latest songs mac maybe like, yeah,

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that's true. The more pop oriented
stuff, Oh that's true. Yeah,

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Wildest Dreams maybe right, yes,
that area right yeah, eighties yeah,

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the Mara there was like the second
coming. Okay, wait before you ask

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the question, I know what the
number one moved a Blue song was.

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Does anybody want to guess? Now
you can guess. We've already said go

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now, go now. Yeah.
Is that is everybody saying saying, yeah,

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that's what it was? Wow?
The Forest Record, Holy Cow,

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I thought Tuesday Afternoon was that was
a monster hit. I didn't know it

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was number one, but that was
that was a monster hit. I think

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I know back in the day,
I can stop that expression. I don't

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like back in the day, knock
that off? Howbun years ago during the

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patient. I know that song.
It was came out in the sixties,

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like when the it was like the
British invasion, the first British invasion.

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Okay, I'm going to have to
I'll sing it to you on the way

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home. I do have that,
Okay. A lot of good blue stuff

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on that album. Yeah, yeah, they were a bluesbean at that point.

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Let's see a couple more. What
was the lead singer? The lead

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singer was the guy that went to
Wings nine any wine? Wow? Is

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Penny? All right? Here we
go? Thank you, Lois woll Okay,

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that's one hand clap. That's funny. What band spent four hundred thousand

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dollars on a single music video the
most expensive music video ever produced? Okay?

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What band spent four hundred thousand dollars
on the music video the most expensive

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music video ever made? One Counting
Crows two No Only Ken one Metallica for

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the song in the Memory Stones,
Bite My Head Off You two, The

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Unforgettable Fire Nickelback, Why do You
hate us. So anyway, who spent

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four hundred thousand dollars in the most
expensive music video ever Metallica The Stones YouTube

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on Nickelback, Janie, I think
I think you too. It wasn't the

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Stones, uh Lois. I'm going
to say Nickelback just because it's so odd.

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I've never heard them, but everyone
hates them, Bros. I'm going

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to go Metallica, Trevor. I'm
actually gonna go with the Stones because they

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when they hit the music video scene, they got big time directors to do

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their videos like destructure and stuff like
that. So Matt Metallica would do something

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like that. Yep, Okay it
is Metallica is awesome. Yeah, that's

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a lot of money from a music
video that's, you know, the one

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of the three or four minute video. Maybe. Okay, this didn't get

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into the millions in the late nineties
early two thousands. Yeah, true,

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Okay, here we go. This
one's a little disturbing, right, What

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female singer songwriter has a bizarre medical
condition where small mushroom trees grow out of

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her skin? Eh? Not even
close to what female songwriter singer songwriter has

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a bizarre medical condition where small mushroom
trees grow out of her skin. That's

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not I am grued. Okay,
here we go. Taylor Smith, Taylor

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Smith Swift. What I say,
Taylor Smith? Yes you did. There's

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your name, Trevor, there's your
new name, man, Taylor Smith.

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Taylor's shopping around, Taylor Swift.
Uh are you on a glen day?

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Oh my goodness. Joni Mitchell.
Ye a, Lady Gaga. Oh,

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Taylor Swift, Adriana Grande, Arianna. I look at that. I like

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I think it's Natcho's ground. Joni
Mitchell, Lady Gaga, Lady Gaga,

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Lady Gaga, Trevor, I'm going
with Stephanie, Lady gotta wanting. Oh,

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I didn't know that who for some
reason, I'm thinking Joni Mitchell.

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But I would have known that,
but with how long she's been around.

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But all right, I'm going to
default to Lady Gaga. Bruce. That

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sounds like an infliction. Lady Gaga
would have oka? Did everyone say Lady

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Gaga except yes, except someone said
Stephanie because they know that name. Who

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did you say lady lay without a
name? That's okay, you're right,

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You're all wrong. Oh, no
way, it's Joany Mitte. The name

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of the the name of the diseases
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R g E l l A R
s will Gowlad's disease, and it's a

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it's it's a lot of people don't
think it's a real thing, but they

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think that it's a mind of a
matter thing. People have have compared it

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to the stigmata. The stigmatter is
people who are so religious that they get

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the wounds of Christ in their hands
and stuff. But it's all mental.

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But she has that little little mushroom
trees grow out of her skin, right,

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Okay, huh, who's ray for
one? For some reason, I

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thought I heard that, and I'm
thinking I must have I must have been

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dreaming when I heard that story about
well, I think we mentioned another way

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with it. That's my first first
inkling that something weird was going on with

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Johnny Mitchell. Yeah, she's had
issues, but she I didn't know.

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I don't recall it being that weird. But wow, mm hmm, guys,

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good research, Thank you. Uh
let's see. So so this isn't

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a question, but it came up, and this would be the last thing

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we do before the commercial. So, which of these bands now these,

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if you can believe it, none
of these bands had a number one hit

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single. None of these bands had
a number one hit single. The led

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Zeppelin never had another number one.
The Who credens a C d C.

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The band zz top none of them
had a Creeden's clear what had five number

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twos? I mean they came into
five note twos, which is still good.

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It's great. Yeah, And the
only Who song to even crack the

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top ten was I Can See for
Miles when you think about it, Yeah,

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but yeah, it's funny. There's
the bands known more for themselves than

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you know, from from records.
You know, it's like Kiss was never

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played on the radio. You know, Metallica isn't really played in the radio

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that much. You know, they're
known, you know, for who they

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are as a post to the radio
play. Well back in the day people

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played back in the day, you
know, they played the whole album,

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you know, And yeah, there's
more album oriented rock. So anyway,

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why don't we talk about number one? Are we talking about? When you

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calculate it a Billboard airplay thing,
it's not necessarily sales on Billboard. I

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don't know, Matt, do you
have do you know? Uh? No,

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I don't know. Yeah, I
know what makes yeah billboard would be

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I'm not sure that's a good question. But Pete isn't here, he would

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know. It would seem like it's
maybe it's a combination of too. Maybe

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it's some algorithm, a combination of
too. I'm thinking that when I used

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to read radio and records, it
was a hand me down subscription from our

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co worker at the radio station where
I work. That's what it was all

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about. It was who's playing it? Now? You know, obviously people

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playing stations playing it would lead to
more sales, right, that's true.

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It's not the sales that makes it
number one, you know, And it's

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number one with the bullet stuff and
number ten with a bullet meant this is

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getting the traction right across you know, certain formats, et cetera, et

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cetera. And I think it's about
radios. I'll have to go off and

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offline and research that, because now
it's kind of an interesting thing because all

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people spend hours trying to figure that
out. Yeah, yeah, like bookies

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trying to figure out a line.
Well. According to Google, it says

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that chart rankings are based on sales
physical and digital online streaming and radio airplay.

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It's all one, yeah, so
it must be some algorithm that so

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listen. Speaking of algorithms, why
don't we take a commercial right now and

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we'll be right back after this.
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here on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. The whole gang is here. Please

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stay tune and now the further adventures
of al Ferrari, star of max latest

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best seller, How to Dump a
Body at Sea and Not Get caught mc

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maloney show. This is Lois,
Hello, Lois al Ferrari. Hi,

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Al, how's the book tour going? Couldn't be better? Sweetheart? Now,

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when I say Max's new book How
to Dump a Body at Sea and

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Not Get Caught at selling like hotcakes, I mean with lots of arban,

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lots of bacon, so practically flying
up the best seller list. That's great,

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Al, but I'm not surprised.
People must be amazed when you tell

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them how you turned an old toyota
into a new rolls rice. Oh,

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when I turned a lousy bunch of
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Or when you had that ikey job
moving bodies. Oh, when I

404
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:04,920
ate an ounce of Hoteas and god, oh gosh, really, Al,

405
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,079
really, Lois, and he says
the way. So the book is stilling

406
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:13,440
great and people love hearing about your
adventures. It's all good, right,

407
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:17,679
you said, it's sweetie. But
wait a minute, Oh my gosh,

408
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,440
Al, are you out of gas? Yes? And vodka? You're stranded?

409
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:27,239
Yes? But wait here comes someone. Now maybe I can bum a

410
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:36,599
rye? Al? Are you okay? I don't know. The dargest thing

411
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,039
just landed in front of me,
A bright light flashing and stroves and wait

412
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:44,519
a minute, three little guys are
climb me out of it. Maybe I

413
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:47,039
should tell him I'm a big fan
of the Wizard of Oz. Al,

414
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,320
don't do that. Okay, they're
looking in the windows. Luckily I have

415
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,239
them all rolled up. Al,
you're driving a convertible. Well, they

416
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,079
seem to be very interested in la
new book. Boxes of them in here.

417
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:15,679
Hey, I can have macono ear
ow. That's right, friends,

418
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,360
Ma's new book, How to Dump
a body at Sea and not get caught.

419
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:22,800
The al Ferrari story is out of
this world. So get yours on

420
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:58,039
Amazon today and don't forget to leave
a review. Welcome Back, and went

421
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:00,599
to Macloney's Musical X Files here on
the Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is

422
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:04,840
Macloney. Well what a show.
We have a show. We have you

423
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,880
tonight and all music show. But
for us to introduce the co defend.

424
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,519
That's head Girls across the Puddle,
the famous home on very famous, sorry,

425
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,800
very famous, right, Hello Mac, Hello, everybody, Hello girls,

426
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:21,519
welcome back to the show. It's
a this is gonna be a fun

427
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,639
night. It's really I enjoyed this
kind of content, even though I've been

428
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:30,280
kind of behind the curve and some
of the answers of the trivia questions,

429
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,199
I don't know why. Well,
you have time to catch up, I

430
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,239
hope so. Also, well in
the studio with us in the house,

431
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:43,239
as the kids say, is the
very lowly lowest Lane Lowest Lowe Lowe.

432
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:45,800
Wow. That just came on the
packet. Hi everyone, it's great to

433
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:52,000
be here. Louie. Yes,
that's it. Yeah. I'm a woman

434
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:55,400
of a few words when I say
something to you. Yes, my book

435
00:36:55,519 --> 00:37:04,480
is of a due because I make
glasses fun. It's okay. Also with

436
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:07,719
us is a good friend Bruce Vogel
down there in Non York City, Bruce

437
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:15,280
Music lover slash format form. Hey, guys. Yeah, X MYPD.

438
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,639
I don't know is that. I
mean, it's funny because it's it was

439
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:22,920
a strange job at a job that
not many people have. So is that

440
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:28,039
how you want to be known for
remembered for being the top? I think

441
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,679
it's one of those occupations that kind
of define you as a person. Yeah,

442
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,119
yeah, you know. I mean, you know, I've been you

443
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:37,320
know, walked the job for twenty
two years now. You know you still

444
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,800
thinking yourself as a cop. You
know. That's like I said, you

445
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,039
know, if you're you know,
a doctor or a lawyer, I think

446
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:46,039
it kind of defines you, right, Yes, kind of weird. I

447
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:49,800
was in it for twenty one years, and I was, you know,

448
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,960
grateful for the opportunity. It's a
it's a it's a great job. It

449
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:58,000
can be a great job. There
are things I miss about it, you

450
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,800
know, mostly I miss the people
that I work with. Yeah yeah,

451
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,400
yeah, wow. Well anyway,
I couldn't do it, I know that.

452
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:07,480
So I guess thank you for your
service. Anytime I'm down in they

453
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,760
I haven't got mug down there yet. Thanks you for your service. Oh,

454
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,679
thank you, definitely, thank you. You know, it's it's it's

455
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,559
very weird because you know, all
my time on the job, it's it's

456
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:22,639
kind of like a thankless job.
I mean that the fire department they seem

457
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:24,360
to be loved by everybody that they
come in and save the day. But

458
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,880
the police, they can, you
know, take your freedom away. We

459
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,159
can give you summons. Is and
you know you're not always popular. After

460
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,840
nine to eleven, when I was
down in and around Ground zero, in

461
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,679
the weeks and months after, so
many people came up and just said what

462
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,760
you guys just did, thank you
for your service, Thank you so much.

463
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,400
It was a very unique time to
be on the job. Yes,

464
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:49,960
it was, it was. It
was. It was something that turned a

465
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:52,000
lot of people's heads around this hours. You know, first responders, I

466
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:57,119
mean you know, three hundred firefighters
and one hundred police were killed. Yeah

467
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,679
there, okay, trying to save
up people. So us anyway, also

468
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,920
with us is uh a good friend
Matt Mally there in a thousand oaks,

469
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,880
California, right, beautiful bottle of
palm trees and everything. Wow, palm

470
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,880
trees as well. Huh nice.
So let me get back to you real

471
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,159
quick. I want to introduce not
real quick, but my friend Trevor Trevor.

472
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,880
No last name, Trevor Mottin.
What is it? Tucker Martin?

473
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:30,639
No, Tucker now Tucker Martin.
You know, no, no, no,

474
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,239
look, good shot. You have
that name. Look at Tanna Mountain.

475
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,519
Other that might grow one. I
don't know. I don't know.

476
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:37,920
I think you can come up with
something better. You know, hey,

477
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,239
I'm still I'm still going to shop
it around and other things. But right

478
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,960
now that's sitting that number one look
on a shirt. That's what I want

479
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,760
to know, Bruce, real quick. I just want to say that I

480
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:57,000
was right right in the middle of
the Boston BOMBI they were ready to after

481
00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:01,559
the shootout, so I was right
there the FBI and we couldn't leave our

482
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:09,480
houses. We were all on lockdown. And uh, you know it's it's

483
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:15,039
not the cops here are wonderful.
I love them, but you know there's

484
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,800
this distance not not you know,
you didn't wave at them, they didn't

485
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,960
wave at you. And mean,
for two weeks after that, everyone loved

486
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:29,920
them. Everybody as smart cops were
smiling, but everybody it was you know,

487
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,760
every cop we saw, we thanked
them like it was it was like

488
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,159
being on another planet. Yeah,
it was good. It was good.

489
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:44,679
Everybody felt good for a while.
Anyway, Yeah, unfortunately that doesn't last.

490
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:50,360
Yeah it kind of fades away,
and it didn't, but but it

491
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:54,320
was it was nice to see the
Bruce. I have the utmost respect for

492
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,199
someone who's a cop for a career, you know, I can you imagine

493
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,760
just for going to work. You're
the guy that goes into all the problems,

494
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,559
you know, you head into winner's
an emergency. I mean when I

495
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:09,519
get LA, freeways are littered with
tattooed badasses who want to pull over and

496
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:15,840
brawl, and whenever that happens to
me, I get palpitations. My adrenaline's

497
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,519
going. I'm thinking, God,
you just leave me alone. And I'd

498
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:22,079
love to be a cop and just
be relaxed and just give that guy the

499
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:27,000
finger and just you know, you
know, so I'll due respect to Bruce.

500
00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:30,280
Well, thank you. You know. It's it's not unlike any other

501
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,719
job. You know. There there
were people that are that are you know,

502
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,000
good at it and good with it, and you know, people who

503
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,599
should be respected. And then there
was some that you know, they they

504
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,400
let the shield go to their head, you know, and that they're they're

505
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:45,960
they're too aggressive. And I'll be
the first one to admit it. Yeah

506
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:52,000
right, yeah, yeah, humans
are humans, you know, still people.

507
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:57,639
Yep, Well not to rip the
band aid off, but didn't.

508
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,960
Wasn't there like a small wall between
the cop up to the firemen down in

509
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,880
New York City? This is pre
nine eleven. They throw an axes at

510
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,320
each other. And yeah, there's
a lot of animosity between the two departments,

511
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:14,880
I think because there are certain you
know, rescue jobs that are uh

512
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:20,239
you know, both departments respond to
uh. And I think there's there's kind

513
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,159
of like a battle that that that
goes on. You know, like you

514
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:25,760
know whose job is it? You
know who's who's in charge, and you

515
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,679
know a lot of these guys are
you know, they want the glory of

516
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:32,519
you know, being the one that
calls it, you know, talks a

517
00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:36,960
guy off the bridge or you know, who saves the person out of the

518
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,519
out of the Hudson River or whatever. But yeah, unfortunately there is animosity

519
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:45,360
between the fire department of police department
in New York. Funny, well not

520
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:54,360
really funny, isn't so anyway,
you want something funny, I'm sorry tell

521
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,119
the joke. You know, well
I could, I know, you have

522
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,079
a couple of funny adventures when you
were a cop. We can't what I'm

523
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:06,559
thinking about right now, we cannot
put it on the air. So all

524
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:15,239
right, the parade member, the
parade incident. Anyway, let's pivot back

525
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,320
to Matt. So, Matt,
what have you been doing lately? Oh?

526
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,400
Gosh, Well, recently I got
a phone call from a director of

527
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:28,239
a documentary HBO wanted to come out
to the house here and interview me because

528
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,239
they're doing a documentary on the first
two Counting Crows records, which start going

529
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,199
back to nineteen ninety two to about
ninety five. It's the early era in

530
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,239
which I'm a big part of.
And so she called me saying, I

531
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,599
hope I have the right Matt Mally. So she basically the internet found me,

532
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,280
I guess you know, and said
it's not the right one. Sorry

533
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,880
to bother you, but I'm looking
for Counting Crows X bass player. So

534
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:57,480
out comes a little film crew about
a week ago to do a big interview

535
00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:00,840
with me in my recording studio,
and my three boys are all excited,

536
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:06,599
my wife's excited. I'm excited because
I'm living a semi retired, quiet lifestyle

537
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:10,440
where I would like to record,
but being back on some major thing.

538
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:15,440
The interview is a with a little
nerve wrecking and exciting. So it was

539
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,679
a fun day. So that was
lately, and I've also been playing with

540
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,199
AI music. There's a site called
Suno that you put in a prompt of

541
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:29,400
a funny story and it'll immediately generate
lyrics for a song. And then you

542
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:37,559
pick a genre like country or Jewish
folk music and it'll immediate in about twenty

543
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:42,760
seconds later, out comes this song. Man, it's awesome, that's funny,

544
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,039
it's dangerous, but yeah awesome.
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's

545
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,239
did you see an AI version of
yourself? Matt? Then you change a

546
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,320
tune on how cool that is?
Yes? Yes, Like wait a minute,

547
00:44:52,119 --> 00:45:00,199
the royalties exactly. There's a new
there's a new thing in music.

548
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:05,039
Is not that new. It is
not AI drive, but it's one of

549
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:07,519
these things that are kind of scary
and I didn't know it. I was

550
00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:12,440
driving home one night and you know, fiddling around with the radio and landed

551
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,199
on a country song, a country
song, and it's called Saturday Night,

552
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:20,679
Saturday Nights, I guess or something. Saturday Night sitting on the back of

553
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,840
my truck is some fricking thing.
Right, and what it is They took

554
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:32,199
the music from David Bowie's song I
Forget Which One and its superimposed their lyrics

555
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:38,760
on to his music. Okay,
Rebel Rebel is the is the song that

556
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,280
they took Okay, And I said, and I'm like, I like drove

557
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,760
home at nine miles an hour.
I was David Bowie's lawyer is not all

558
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,679
over this, right? Wow?
Well, it turns out it's called there's

559
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,280
a They did it with permission.
They get twenty percent of the of the

560
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:59,400
of the pie for them to use
the backing track from Bowie's song thirty years

561
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,480
ago for country song. What maybe
AI was involved, you know, because

562
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,280
it's sounded perfect. It just you
know, was a country song. Very

563
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,159
strange. So but is that good? Sorry? I mean is that good?

564
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,760
I mean the AI thing. And
also that people aren't coming up at

565
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,880
original ideas that they got to go
you know what I mean, it's like

566
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,920
recycling stuff. Yeah. Well,
honestly, I gotta say I entered it

567
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:24,840
kind of a fevered state for about
two days when I first discovered the site,

568
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:30,400
and I immediately subscribed to it and
got the pro version, and it

569
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:35,599
just it takes everything that a musician
holds sacred and runs a bulldozer through it

570
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,599
and spits out a song in a
minute. I put a Steroway to Heaven

571
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:45,159
lyrics into a disco song. So
I had a female singer singing Stairway to

572
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,679
Heaven to a disco sounds like the
Abba, you know, and here comes,

573
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,000
here comes the lyrics. It's like
an abomination. It's like it's like

574
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:59,199
a spawn of Satan, and here's
this perfect little disco song was Sarah Stairway

575
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:02,239
to Heaven lyrics, And it actually
made me ill for about two days.

576
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,840
And I see it as a as
a creative assist. It's not going to

577
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,719
replace everybody, but it's going to
certainly spit out ideas to us that we

578
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,360
can better hopefully. But yeah,
so you think at the end it's a

579
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,480
good thing. I believe it is. Not only are we going to have

580
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:28,159
the world's greatest movies written and filmed
with AI, but maybe the greatest music,

581
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,840
you know, with help of AI
at the very least. But everyone's

582
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,000
worried about their jobs now and everything, but it's common no matter what,

583
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:38,440
it's here and it's going to be
getting better. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

584
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,679
you know, you know how in
the nineties, it was chat rooms.

585
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,039
I was, I would go to
America Line and go to chat rooms

586
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:52,039
and if you remember, and that
became YouTube. And so think of what

587
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:53,960
AI is going to be in ten
years from now or twenty you know,

588
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:58,360
I can't even imagine. Yeah,
yeah, Lois, you were going to

589
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:04,719
say something what I was just saying
that people are fascinated by the fact that

590
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:12,039
you can just put anything in and
as Matt said, within half a second,

591
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:15,400
it gives you something something. And
I think if people use it,

592
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:21,800
as Matt said, as an assist
right to to generate ideas and then you

593
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,280
build from there. I mean,
we all build on ideas that already were

594
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,159
so but it's the original idea,
I suppose. But I think I think

595
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:34,440
it cuts into people's creativity because,
you know, lazy people like me.

596
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,559
I'm just trying to figure out how
to write the next you know, wing

597
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:39,920
mean book and AI, right,
so I don't have to do it.

598
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,480
So, yes, you know,
I mean it's going to be that.

599
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,519
But but what happens the day that
AI spits out its own song? Do

600
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:52,320
you know what I mean? It's
you know, when when they say it

601
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,360
becomes sentient to what it spits out
its own song. Uh, what happens

602
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,239
then you know that's the end.
Yeah. Yeah. I have a twenty

603
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:06,480
four year old son who's a techie, and he predicts that one possibility of

604
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:14,000
AI becoming so smart that it can
actually go into our nuclear buttons, and

605
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:16,360
it can go into going to the
internet. And they do fake videos of

606
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:22,320
the President saying we're at war.
But what if AI reaches a point in

607
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,679
time where it says, actually,
I've just calculated that we're all going to

608
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:31,039
be better off without the human race. Okay, that could happen. That's

609
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:36,360
the moment happened. I agree with
your kid that that could happen. Yes,

610
00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:39,519
and it would be right. That's
what's be right. It wouldn't be

611
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:45,320
just its opinion. It would be
a correct calculation. Like the Internet,

612
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:51,840
there's really very little control on i
say, a worldwide basis. The Internet

613
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,639
is sort of ad hoc all over
the place. It's just like it was

614
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:59,679
when uh it was invented, you
know where it was just hooking up colleges

615
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:06,679
and you diversities and things like that. But it's it's the wild West,

616
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,039
Yes, it's it's kind of it. We're experimenting. We don't really care

617
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:14,360
about raining it in. We just
want to let it all hang out,

618
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,159
basically, and it'd be hot to
rein it in. I think the genie's

619
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:21,199
out of the bottle, you know
what I mean. I think it's it's

620
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,679
going to do creation at least.
It's it's kind of harmless, except maybe

621
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,920
to the artist it says that wasn't
me doing that song, or yeah there's

622
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,719
no there was no permission on that
one. But if it can cure cancer,

623
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,239
that's great. See that's the thing. Yeah, exactly. You know,

624
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,559
I suppose that you can do these
calculations you need for producing new medicines

625
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,280
and things they've been working off in
ten years. It does it in like

626
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,920
ten minutes ten seconds. Yeah,
So yeah, I was kind of doing

627
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:52,519
some DNA helping with DNA research and
things like that. That's where I'm on

628
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:57,079
board with it. Yeah. Yeah. I wrote a song a few months

629
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,519
ago that my son and I are
trying to record at this time about how

630
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:07,559
apps are ripping the world apart,
whether it's algorithms that feed us what we

631
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:12,039
believe and then we politically get way
more volatile. And it's a great song

632
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:15,800
and it's inspired by Queen Chords.
There's a thing in the music world called

633
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,719
the secondary dominance, which resolved to
a tonic and you and Queens really did

634
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,280
that to the limits, and some
classical musicians like Brahms did it. And

635
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,840
I'm very proud of writing this song
and I'm still trying to record it.

636
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:34,000
But now when it's released, anyone
could just say, oh, he could

637
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:37,159
have had AI assist him in doing
that. It might not be him when

638
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,159
it was me. Interesting. Yeah, see, you don't get the credit.

639
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,480
You don't get the you want.
The songwriters won't get the credit that

640
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:45,519
they deserve. But it mat so
while you're on that subject, so you

641
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:50,360
say Queen's chords, they are they
real chords that we would know, like

642
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,000
G seven line of chop or something. Yes, sure, well there's a

643
00:51:53,039 --> 00:52:01,079
song in particular, she Keeps a
Moment and Killer Queen. There's a great

644
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:04,000
video to that too. I think
they're on top of the Pops or something,

645
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:07,719
and they're all clear and crisp and
visually it's incredible video. The chords

646
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:13,679
to that song are a study in
secondary dominant resolving to tonics, and they're

647
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:17,920
all over the verses and the second
the b versus, and it's an incredible

648
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,639
piece of music, you know,
is that Brian may Or is that Freddy?

649
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,559
Who is that? I think that's
Freddy that wrote that one Killer Queen.

650
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,639
Yeah, Freddy would be really elaborate
with his lyrics, and so I'm

651
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,920
always I'm thinking that it would have
been Freddy. There's a lot of I

652
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:37,239
mean, if there's a formula for
a hit song, not every hit song

653
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,639
is like this, but a lot
of them is that. It just sounds

654
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:44,039
a little bit different, you know, the mid right, this is from

655
00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:45,840
what I can say, the writer
just puts in something a little bit different,

656
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,760
like different cores. The beers would
start a silent the chorus, you

657
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,719
know that kind of stuff, you
know, just so it sounds a little

658
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:57,639
bit different. Even the listener might
not hear it. It's subtle. That's

659
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:00,880
a hit, you know. Yeah. Wow wow. So I'm going to

660
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,880
ask Trevor, so, so when's
when? When's it going to be on

661
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:08,960
any idea HBO? Matt Uh?
It might be months or even a year

662
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:13,800
or more away that there. They're
still in their little editing phase of this

663
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,320
movie. So and then they have
to everyone waits for the licensing or whatever

664
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,400
has to happen, right right,
Okay, Low has just passed me a

665
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,000
note. Did you keep your clothes
on? She wants to know what I

666
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:30,039
did not? I did not know. I think the documentary genre is in

667
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:39,199
the toilet. But HBO's music documentaries
the last three years happened excellent. But

668
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:45,719
Donna Summon, seriously, Donna Summon, But Donalds is amazing. Wow,

669
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:52,480
it's an excellent documentary. Checking out
so much Dorchester where I grew up.

670
00:53:52,679 --> 00:53:55,880
But we didn't know each other.
We're just friends. Hey, Mac,

671
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,159
I have a question, go ahead
please. First, the only h,

672
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,400
the only vowels in Wingman is A
and I. Is it something you want

673
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:16,480
to tell us? Right? Yeah, A, it's a joke. I

674
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:20,199
hope my publishers and listening now.
But I'm looking into it, I really

675
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,599
am. You know, apparently there
is some kind of software that you can

676
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:30,480
download all your books into and and
then just say they won't write the whole

677
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:32,800
book, but it's quite possible to
write chapter by chapter. If you say

678
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,440
Wingman now, has you know,
blow up on aircraft car or something?

679
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:40,000
Yeah, GPT. You don't have
to do anything except type that in and

680
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,400
it'll do anything. All I need
is to recline now, and I've all

681
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,599
said I'm going to hack it.
As soon as you get it, I'm

682
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:51,079
going to hack it even better.
I want the one one character and not

683
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,760
be a bad guy, I mean, just for a change, just to

684
00:54:54,840 --> 00:55:00,159
point out how amazing it can be. I work with somebody who needed a

685
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:08,440
poem about a cap vera before about
what capa? I think I'm saying that

686
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:17,320
right, geared toward fourth graders,
And all she wrote was I need a

687
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:23,320
poem about capabera for fourth graders,
and that it mentioned you know where it

688
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:29,800
lives and what it eats in South
American printed out really, you know,

689
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:36,079
probably an eight stands a poem in
seconds, And it was that I don't

690
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:38,920
think that's a good thing. Frankly, Well, was this when I had

691
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:44,239
done my freaking homework when I was
a kid, I mean before I could

692
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,960
use that when I was going to
Northeastern? Yes, yeah, university college

693
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,119
students, Yeah yeah, yeah,
it's so easy English thesis, no problem.

694
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:59,039
Well, do a report on crime
and punishment. I hate reading that

695
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:06,159
book. See the movie. Go
tell chat GPT write a book report on

696
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,400
crime and you'll have a book.
You have. I am not able to

697
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,000
write business proposals and then starting a
new venture with the friend. We put

698
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:20,400
it in chat GPT and it wrote
it for us and it really helped.

699
00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:23,679
Yeah, that wasn't a creative thing. It's just I don't have an ability

700
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:29,039
to do this. Wrote it in
you know, explained the basics of what

701
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:32,599
it was and what our goal was, and it wrote it perfectly. We

702
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:36,800
did some editing, some tweaking,
but I mean it saved my use.

703
00:56:37,559 --> 00:56:39,679
That's it. Lowis, I got
to get that tomorrow. Okay, to

704
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:47,400
sweet you have to do? What's
a browser? That's right? So was

705
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,159
it Mad magazine that had those things
scenes we'd like to see, Oh yeah,

706
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:57,400
yeah, Mad magazine. Okay,
this is AI music. I would

707
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,760
like to see all of a sudden
out of the clip sky there's a there's

708
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:08,880
a song that's allegedly AI generated by
some nefarious Taylor Swift, uh moron,

709
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:17,920
who's it's a it's a distrack on
Travis Kelcey. Okay, that's just did

710
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:25,239
this track Travis Kelcey, you know, by by some AI user who's sick

711
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:30,719
of seeing Taylor and Travis, you
know, blitzing around town kissing and hugging

712
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:38,599
and having a good time and this
comes out. See but see something like

713
00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:42,280
that could happen, and you could
just put that on the Internet and people

714
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,800
wouldn't know until you know that people
always they never hear the the explanation or

715
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:52,760
the you know, like word goes
out and ninety perven of the people never

716
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,159
hear the retraction, you know what
I mean, or the explanation, so

717
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,239
that you know, kind of adds
to it, and all the media would

718
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,280
pick it up like here, yeah, because yeah, because the meetia is

719
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,000
twenty four to seven now at the
media, and that I don't want to

720
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:10,079
stop. The meeting in this country
is so inconfident it's beyond believe. Anyway,

721
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:14,880
Bruce, I want you to if
you could very quickly tell us walk

722
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:22,079
us through the two times you met
John Lennon. Bruce, did you hear

723
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:24,519
that? Sorry? What if you
could walk us through the two times that

724
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:30,440
you saw that you met John Lennon? Oh sure, the first time was

725
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:36,760
April ninth, nineteen seventy six.
But who's counting a good friend of mine.

726
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:38,639
We were, you know, really, you know, heavily into the

727
00:58:38,679 --> 00:58:42,840
Beatles. I was in junior high
school and he shows up at my door

728
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:49,800
one day wearing a Beetle shirt and
across the stomach was John's autograph in pen

729
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,960
and he said, I went into
the city. I met John Lennon and

730
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,679
I said, I have to go. So a couple of friends of mine,

731
00:58:57,719 --> 00:59:00,000
we cut school, we you know, took the bus in the subway,

732
00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:02,159
went to the Dakota. We were
very very fortunate. We were hanging

733
00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:07,159
out for probably only about two hours, and the doorman came out and said,

734
00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:09,360
you know, John and Yoko are
coming out. He actually tipped us

735
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,039
off that they were coming out.
Thankfully, we were the only you know

736
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,119
people there, and him and Yoko
came out and we approached him. I

737
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:20,400
said, you know, John,
you know, we're you know, you

738
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,840
know, big fans, you know. I asked her if we could take

739
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,679
a picture. And Mac knows this
picture very well. He actually stood him

740
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:31,360
and Yoko stood next to me.
They pose. It's a a great you

741
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,400
know picture. I you know,
printed it out probably about a million times.

742
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:40,119
He signed my imagined album cover.
We had a brief conversation and the

743
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:44,800
doorman hailed a cab and him and
Yoko got in a cab and if they

744
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:50,320
went wow wow, And I'll tell
you he he could not have been nicer

745
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,519
to a couple or three, you
know, dopey teenage you know, Beatle

746
00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:58,239
fans, and it meant the world
to me. And I've told the story,

747
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,800
you know, one hundred times.
Uh And had he you know,

748
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,519
blown us off, it would have
been devastating, but he didn't, and

749
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:10,920
it was it was terrific. The
second time, my my, my then

750
01:00:12,039 --> 01:00:15,320
girlfriend you know, wanted to to
to go and see John, and we

751
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:20,239
took a chance, went down there
and this time he came out of a

752
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,360
cab, uh and we stopped him
and you know, said, you know,

753
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,239
can you sign an autograph? And
again he was very very you know,

754
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:31,400
friendly towards us. He signed our
autographs and it was it was really

755
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:35,119
I was going to say, it's
a once in a lifetime experience, but

756
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,199
you know, fortunately for me it
did you know, lightning struck twice,

757
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:44,639
and it was it was terrific thing
that John Lennon was able to experience a

758
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:49,920
like normal guy lifestyle in New York
City. That's what he loved about New

759
01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:52,280
York City. Only in New York
City can you do that really in a

760
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:57,320
way. And with all the crap
that went on with him getting his visa

761
01:00:57,559 --> 01:01:00,639
or not almost not getting a visa, stuff, you would think that would

762
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:07,159
he would, you know, have
something up his butt about New York or

763
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:09,599
America in particular. Yeah, well
he used to say. He used to

764
01:01:09,679 --> 01:01:14,199
say about in New York City,
says everyone hates it, but you don't

765
01:01:14,199 --> 01:01:20,079
see anyone moving out. Mm hmm
yeah, yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

766
01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:22,639
So now I was thinking, wow, that's so cool to want me

767
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,519
the beetle. But we have to
go to Matt because Matt, you have

768
01:01:27,639 --> 01:01:32,599
to tell us your beetle sweaterst story
again plays well, well, it involves

769
01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:37,079
having my ego go up and smoke. So Friend of Mind, this was

770
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:44,239
in twenty thirteen, said he's a
big alcoholics anonymous speaker and he's a psychiatrist.

771
01:01:44,519 --> 01:01:46,639
So his name is Brian Wells.
And so Brian was staying at our

772
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,239
house with us, and he said, come on down with me to this

773
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,719
Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. I'm going to
be speaking, and Ringo Starr and his

774
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,440
wife Barbara back come to this meeting
usually, so come on down in case

775
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,960
you want to might get a chance
to meet him. So he brought me

776
01:02:01,079 --> 01:02:06,440
down with him, and we're in
Beverly Hills and there's sure enough in walks

777
01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:09,920
Ringo with his wife. So I'm
like, just my mind's blown. How

778
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:14,360
can he How can he just sit
in a room like this a beatle?

779
01:02:14,519 --> 01:02:17,840
He's just sitting in here, you
know. And Joe Walsh was there too,

780
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:22,119
because their wives are sister in laws. Know that their wives are sisters.

781
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,559
Barbara back and then Joe Walsh's wife
is married to the sister of Barbara,

782
01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:30,840
and but having a beatle there,
normally it would be like, wow,

783
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:37,039
Joe Walsh. Joe Walsh was as
good as invisible. And then so

784
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:44,159
I saw after the presentation that Brian
gave and everything he knows Ringo and so

785
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,719
sat enough. Ringo and Barbara go
up to Brian and they're talking. So

786
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,639
I thought, oh, man,
that there's my end. So I went

787
01:02:50,719 --> 01:02:54,320
over because Brian's my buddy. So
he goes Richard. Richard Starkey is Ringo's

788
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,719
name, and he goes Richard,
this is my friend Matt and this is

789
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,159
his first time at a meeting,
and holds out his arm and says,

790
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:06,559
come here on that and gives me
a hug. And so yeah, so

791
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:09,719
I'm just I'm so full of like
I think I have a panic disorder because

792
01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:15,280
I'm my adrenaline is going and I
went down and I say, you know,

793
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,199
I played in a band called Counting
Crows, and and Richard Starkey goes

794
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,880
Counting Crows. I used to play
in a little band myself. So I

795
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,440
think he knows he can just mess
with your mind. And you know,

796
01:03:29,719 --> 01:03:34,039
there's nothing I could say. And
it was very nice. It was then

797
01:03:34,119 --> 01:03:37,440
you smell the sweater. Then you
smell his sweater. Yeah, I as

798
01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:40,320
I was hugging in my smell the
sweater, and IoT, that's Ringos sweater

799
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:45,719
right there. That the reptilian core
of my brain was trying to experience everything.

800
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,159
He handled it. Well, yeah, I said, I got ringo

801
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:57,840
DNA all over me. I'm not
going to bathe for ten years and rings

802
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,880
like put a man on this guy, you know, Yeah, yeah,

803
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,199
I'll tell you he looks better than
ever. I mean, he dies just

804
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,639
he but he's got a cool here
now. He just he just looked really

805
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,039
and he was the sickest one of
all those guys, you know, and

806
01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:15,599
he's yeah, yeah, funny,
and he's been sober for so many years

807
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:21,159
now. He was talking about a
dinner he had with mccontney. Whenever my

808
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:27,000
Kondie goes into La they have dinner
and he in my contey tried. I

809
01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:30,159
guess who's you know, not adverse
to drinking, to try to get Ringo

810
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,760
to have a drink, you know, after like forty years whatever, and

811
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,800
he says, why won't you have
it? Come on, Ringo, why

812
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,519
won't you have it? And he
says, what to look like you?

813
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:44,880
Oh, by the way, that's
good. He sounds like he's come to

814
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,360
his full realization of not being an
alcohol Yeah, yeah, yeah, really

815
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:54,039
not drinking absolutely so, Trevor,
let's see touring now, yes, yes,

816
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:57,079
they're out now down the road right
now? Yep, yep? Orun

817
01:04:57,159 --> 01:05:03,440
tall yeah. I there's a lot
of the phenomenon of so called classic rock

818
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:08,320
artists or you know artists have gone
back a few years. They's fifty years

819
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,079
and more. It's amazing that they're
on the on the road. Some of

820
01:05:12,119 --> 01:05:19,599
their road trips are briefly interrupted,
like the Boss Bruce Springsteen's trip is not

821
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:25,599
on hold but at ten day hiatus
that started a couple of days ago.

822
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:34,639
And it's it's becoming more and more
perhaps obvious that maybe some of these rock

823
01:05:34,719 --> 01:05:41,920
stars we worshiped and loved like I
have worshiped and loved these guys day in

824
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:45,599
day out, say, man,
if these guys can do that, then

825
01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:48,519
I should be able to live and
enjoy it forever too. Like like my

826
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:58,360
my life, enjoyment of everything you
know, earthly and everything musically depends on

827
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:03,519
the the life of Keith Richards somehow
I know the old thing the over end

828
01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:08,599
was quite a past seven. By
the way, go ahead, ifing happens

829
01:06:08,639 --> 01:06:13,239
to Keith Richards's, what would you
do? I'm going to be really wicked

830
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,039
nervous. Well didn't you tell me
once that you when you wake up in

831
01:06:15,079 --> 01:06:18,800
the morning, you think, what's
Keith doing right now? Exactly? I

832
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:23,280
go to I go to your news
searches, you know, and just type

833
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:31,000
in following that's stock comentarial. Man, that's that's unbelievable to being a stalker.

834
01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:33,519
But and I know here in the
UK, if something happened, it

835
01:06:33,559 --> 01:06:39,719
would be it would be on BBC. But did you did you write?

836
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,000
Didn't you send him something to his
house in Connecticot, your panties or something?

837
01:06:43,159 --> 01:06:47,320
What you do? You did you
wrote to him in connecting it with

838
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,199
Keith? But yes I did.
I did during steel Wheels when I was

839
01:06:51,239 --> 01:06:58,440
a local crew roadie guy, uh
handle his guitars from the truck to his

840
01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:02,679
his guitar tar Tech who just loading
them in. I was handling the cases

841
01:07:03,159 --> 01:07:08,519
inside, which were allegedly Keith Richard's
guitars, because I was told that and

842
01:07:08,639 --> 01:07:13,239
told to bring them in a specific
ones. I did that twice. Did

843
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,320
you lick it tire on each hand? Twice? And I'm going, wait

844
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:21,400
a second, I'm I'm experiences.
I'm by myself. Okay, I'm walking

845
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,679
on the cross of the back stage. I walked every inch of that stage.

846
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,760
I'm saying, I got Keith Richard's
guitars with me, and I'm handling

847
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,760
them like they're my child. You
know, was like gingerly watching my step.

848
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:40,400
And you know, because there was
cables everywhere and this there was stuff

849
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,000
that was kind of not yet tied
down. We're going to put some music

850
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:48,079
behind this. Believe me, We're
gonna put some very white music behind this.

851
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,800
I did. I told Iileen about
it when I got home, and

852
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,760
I went, you know what,
I'm not going to wash my hands for

853
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,480
a while. I think I got
something. Just give me warning on too.

854
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,039
During his solo tour, they were
in Boston at the where did they

855
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:15,039
play at the uh the Wank Wank
Center Round. Was it the Orphan?

856
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,079
They haven't, Yeah, they played
at it might have been the Orphan.

857
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:25,720
And that was the first expensive Winos
tour in December and Keith Ridge's birthday December

858
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:32,640
eighteenth, And it was nineteen eighty
eight close before they got back together again

859
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:38,159
for Steel Wheels. Yes, I
sent them a birthday card to the theater

860
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,760
you know Keith Ridge. You know
Keith Rich's care of the Orphian Theater.

861
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,640
Whatever the address was, and I
was hoping he would maybe, you know,

862
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,560
I put my return address. I
was hoping that he'd right back one.

863
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:58,199
We have to get together. I'm
your biggest fan, come on please.

864
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:01,800
But I didn't hear from some he's
a funny guy. He's he's an

865
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:06,439
interesting guy. He's well read.
He's I mean he's he's like a historian.

866
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,439
He knows a lot of stuff.
And they would say, I've seen

867
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,760
interviews with people in the Stones.
They say, whenever you have some kind

868
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,399
of dilemma, whether it's money or
music, whatever, you just go to

869
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,119
him and he'll tell you what to
do. He's one of those guys,

870
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:26,039
right, But he spends his days, as it turns out, he spends

871
01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:29,159
If you want to believe it.
He spends his days read reading stuff,

872
01:09:29,239 --> 01:09:34,720
reading history books. You know,
he's he's a substance. And but what's

873
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:39,199
funny is that he has become We've
said this before, he's become one of

874
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:41,920
his heroes, you know what I
mean. He's he's going to be mentioned

875
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,439
in the same breath as Muddy Waters
and Holland Wolf and all those guys,

876
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,960
those Chicago blues guys, because that's
what he's become. He's become an old

877
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:55,079
blues guy who plays in a band. You know. Uh So he's become

878
01:09:55,199 --> 01:09:58,279
his own heroes, which is kind
of a cool thing. And he's funny.

879
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,039
I mean, he's if you can
understand what that he's talking about,

880
01:10:01,119 --> 01:10:05,560
he's he's really funny and kind of
witty. You know, these are times

881
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:11,359
he make every time he makes public
appearances on late night TV. Who's his

882
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,800
favorite? Yeah, yeah, that
Jimmy what is his name, Jimmy Allen?

883
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,439
What's he doing on that show?
Man this? Yeah? He is

884
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:23,840
the worst, that guy. It's
about having a man on him. NBC

885
01:10:24,039 --> 01:10:27,960
has a man on that guy twenty
four to seven because he has a problem

886
01:10:28,039 --> 01:10:31,319
with you know, with booze and
he's almost hurt himself a bunch of times,

887
01:10:31,359 --> 01:10:34,680
a couple of times anyway, not
funny, but he does make fun

888
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,520
of him. Keith Richard makes fun
of himself a little self, and he

889
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:46,279
did with he was on Howard Stern
Yeah episode, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

890
01:10:46,399 --> 01:10:49,079
you know, I know he takes
himself seriously as far as his music

891
01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:55,319
is concerned, and his abilities and
that sort of thing. And obviously because

892
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,600
that's what he does for the fun. I mean, he does it for

893
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,119
a living, but he does this
for fun. You know. He said

894
01:11:00,199 --> 01:11:06,680
that he'll stop doing it when he's
dead, those things, and really,

895
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,479
you know, he's you know,
he's serious, but he's funny about it.

896
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:16,319
His best line was someone asked him, he's been a rockstar now for

897
01:11:16,399 --> 01:11:19,319
fifty years, you know what is
what was the struggle? Like he goes

898
01:11:19,359 --> 01:11:21,840
the struggle. He says, I've
been a rocks does so it's been twenty

899
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:26,279
years old. It's been great.
You know, I'm a rockstar. Goet

900
01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:30,560
it. Yeah. He really,
he's just you know, I think he's

901
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,640
like Ring going away. He knows, you know, I hate to say

902
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,960
it sounds pap. He knows who
he is, you know what I mean,

903
01:11:35,039 --> 01:11:39,720
he knows. It's a huge celebrity. But you you met him,

904
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,960
right, Matt, you met him. Yeah. I met Keith and Ron

905
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,199
Wood when. Oh it was one
day when we were opening for them and

906
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:51,840
somewhere in the Midwest, and they
have a snooker's table in their dressing room

907
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:56,119
area of the stadiums that they traveled
with us. So a couple of the

908
01:11:56,199 --> 01:12:00,279
counting crews were playing snoopers and then
Keith or Ron would show up and help

909
01:12:00,359 --> 01:12:03,079
us hold the key to the right
way, things like that. It was

910
01:12:03,119 --> 01:12:12,000
pretty wild. Yeah, amazing.
Well, the uh, what's his What's

911
01:12:12,079 --> 01:12:15,600
Keith Richards's favorite dinner? Shepherd's pie? Yeah, yeah, there's a recipe

912
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,640
on line for Keith Richards Shepherd's fine. Really wow, he thought. Keith

913
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,880
always said that don't bust the crust. Don't bust the crust. Right,

914
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:29,079
there would always be in order of
shepherd's pie and the crew table. What

915
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,720
he does is he just he makes
a shepherd have the first piece. He

916
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,520
makes a shepherd's pie, and he
puts onions. He puts a layer of

917
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,800
onions on top of it. That's
his, that's the recipe, and then

918
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,640
he puts the crust on. But
he never eats in restaurants. I was

919
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,239
seeing red something to bomb them a
little while ago. He never eats in

920
01:12:44,319 --> 01:12:49,800
restaurants and he cooks all his own
food. I didn't know that either.

921
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:55,640
Yeah, So, Trevor, I'm
going to ask you something. Oh yeah,

922
01:12:55,680 --> 01:13:00,680
go ahead, Do you like give
us your opinion of I do.

923
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,199
I like Abba a lot, and
I'll tell you why. I was an

924
01:13:03,239 --> 01:13:11,399
electronic music DJ club DJ for ten
years, and I used to think disco

925
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,760
was ridiculous and stupid and stuff like
that. And then I read this book

926
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:24,560
about just the history of DJing all
genres, and I realized that a lot

927
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:30,399
of the music that I loved it
came from this genre of disco. And

928
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:38,640
I would go back and listen to
it and finally hear what I'd been missing.

929
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:44,960
And yes, it's a very silly
genre, but I can I appreciate

930
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:48,840
it now for the influence that it
had on hip hop and electronic music.

931
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:56,800
And part of that rediscovery of it
was Abba and what I believed now to

932
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:01,560
be really great production. One thing
about I'd never think i'd say this,

933
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:06,680
but looking back on disco, it's
actually not as bad as everyone you know

934
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:11,640
thought it was. You know,
it's not a lot of interesting production,

935
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:16,079
a lot of interesting percussion in it. It's some good funk in disco too.

936
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:21,039
I wanted people to recognize that disco
actually some of it has some funk

937
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:25,880
to it. Yeah, yeah,
good interesting. Yeah, Matt, do

938
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:30,560
you did you always have you come
around to liking disco? We should ask

939
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,680
everyone, Well, I'm all struck
at a but I mean I would say

940
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:39,760
is it was a while, maybe
five to ten years ago, in my

941
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:46,119
fifties and youtubing. I came on
like the track Dancing Queen I found Knowing

942
01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:50,560
Me, Knowing You. And there's
a documentary on them, by the way,

943
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,840
with the guy that made those videos, because they're all very low budget.

944
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,880
If you ever see them, they're
on a mountain top of a snowman

945
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:02,000
on one of the videos cool I
think it's Chicka Tita, and it's all

946
01:15:02,119 --> 01:15:06,720
the lighting is all wrong and and
they're just like and this this guy,

947
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:14,000
uh, the Swedish filmmaker that did
their videos is watching Knowing Me, Knowing

948
01:15:14,079 --> 01:15:15,159
You, and he's laughing and saying, look, why is it? Why

949
01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:16,880
is that guy there? What are
they? And it is one of the

950
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,880
members, it's Benny or Bjorn,
and they're like walking back behind one of

951
01:15:21,319 --> 01:15:24,960
this ladies and he's saying, why
are they doing this? And he's laughing

952
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:29,239
at himself. How he directed this
video and it's genius and the music is

953
01:15:29,399 --> 01:15:36,840
just incredible, the songwriting is incredible. They were the first billion dollar private

954
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:43,079
enterprise ever in Sweden because the first
bit, I think that's the right way

955
01:15:43,079 --> 01:15:47,239
of saying it. Yeah, they're
a fantastic art article in two thousand and

956
01:15:47,359 --> 01:15:56,760
five that's said, if somebody approached
them again about getting back together and had

957
01:15:57,119 --> 01:16:02,279
calculated that after toy and sales,
yeah, they each would have nabbled,

958
01:16:02,359 --> 01:16:12,560
not gross, nabbled one burn dollars
and they still sad now hates each other's

959
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,239
each other a billion dollars worth.
Wow, that's cool. Oh we can

960
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,239
Wow, that's funny. So anyway, you know what, let's just take

961
01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:25,159
a real quick commercial break so we
can add up to time and we'll be

962
01:16:25,239 --> 01:16:28,479
right back after this. You're listening
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963
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,359
Distant Thunder Radio Network. The whole
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964
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972
01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:41,319
macarroney Weather Show. We have tonight, but very quickly, girls, you

973
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know he's here. Janie across the
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974
01:17:46,159 --> 01:17:49,000
welcome back to the show. It's
been fun so far, really fun.

975
01:17:49,119 --> 01:17:51,960
Right, we're gonna get your good
stuff we're talking about. We'll get

976
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your fee in mailt you as soon
as possible. Okay, once the security

977
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check is on. Okay, you
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978
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979
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hundred dollars. Actually, Rural Mao
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980
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It's some miracles. So it happened
with Mayo, well so much with packages,

981
01:18:12,199 --> 01:18:16,159
but with just regular Mayo speaking about
packages in the studio with us tonight

982
01:18:16,399 --> 01:18:26,640
is very level, the lowest lane
low. Hi, everyone, It's really

983
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,000
nice to be here, and it's
fun to hear everybody talk about music.

984
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:35,079
It is fun. It's very you
know, connects the world. Also with

985
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:39,520
us, in his own way connecting
the world is Bruce Vogel down there in

986
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:44,680
New York City. Bruce, Hey, guys, you got the lowest.

987
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:53,439
You got the clock clan Clack Kent
glasses on there? Yeah, speaking of

988
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,359
the clock Cank glass was lowess.
How is it that you did not know

989
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,840
that Clark Kent was superman? I
mean, did the glass is really throw

990
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,600
you off that much? Well,
you know it's because I didn't have mindglasses

991
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:09,600
on. Just recently got them now
I understand why it's not trouble person.

992
01:19:11,319 --> 01:19:14,439
Also with us, there is a
good friend out there in the left coast,

993
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:19,039
Matt Malley. Matt, how are
you good? Doing good? Surf?

994
01:19:19,159 --> 01:19:26,000
Weather's good out here? Did you
say surf is California is amazing?

995
01:19:26,279 --> 01:19:29,239
Have you ever surfed? Have you
ever surfed? No? Never surf,

996
01:19:29,359 --> 01:19:31,880
never served. I'm not an athlete
by any stretch. You come here for

997
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:38,399
the weather. You see those nuts. Well, that's good. You see

998
01:19:38,399 --> 01:19:41,520
those nuts. You know, these
these people who are so into surfing,

999
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,279
they get down a helicopter and they
go out through these rocks. You're like

1000
01:19:44,359 --> 01:19:47,880
one hundred miles off of Catalina or
some freaking place, and these enormous waves

1001
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:54,960
like they something from a nightmare.
I mean, if you don't, what

1002
01:19:55,199 --> 01:19:58,319
is that just stupidity? Or you
get the money to do it. You

1003
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,880
need the adrenaline rush, the human
ego. You know. I was recently

1004
01:20:03,039 --> 01:20:09,920
on some YouTube sleuth and found mutual
of Omaha's Wild Kingdom. Do you remember

1005
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,800
that from the what that guy?
Yeah? Yeah, yes, yes,

1006
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:17,359
And and in it is this dude
who's his assistant, what was his name,

1007
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:24,239
Marlon Marlon Perkins, yeah, Malon
Park. Yes. And and in

1008
01:20:24,399 --> 01:20:28,039
one of the episodes is this dude
with a petroleum product in his hair and

1009
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:32,159
slacks and he's wrestling a lion,
you know, to show that man is

1010
01:20:32,279 --> 01:20:38,039
greater than these beasts. I thought, Wow, that's a Cold War era,

1011
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:43,520
mid century male ego, and that's
why people surf off for these giant

1012
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,279
waves, right wrong? Yeah,
okay, you know if you try that

1013
01:20:46,359 --> 01:20:49,000
with a lion, ninety nine times
out of one hundred. It's not going

1014
01:20:49,079 --> 01:20:55,359
to go well. You wrestling with
a lion. So anyway, and also

1015
01:20:55,479 --> 01:21:00,159
with us as our good friend Trevor. Trevor, what is that taka is?

1016
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:04,680
What's your name? Yeah, Tucker
Houghton. That's okay, you got

1017
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:10,159
it, You got it. That's
it, Tucker Houghton, the man with

1018
01:21:10,359 --> 01:21:15,479
no name. I think there's some
kind of red that one. Yeah,

1019
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,239
we're going with it. Thank you, Max. That's okay for getting me

1020
01:21:17,319 --> 01:21:26,960
there. So anyway, Bruce,
I've introduced Bruce. Yeah, yeah,

1021
01:21:27,079 --> 01:21:30,199
he has the clock and glasses on. Oh gotch doing this? There was

1022
01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:33,600
a new in the like in the
Vietnam War where if you wore glasses in

1023
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:38,479
the military, you had to wear
those glasses and they called them the army's

1024
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:45,560
birth control about so Bruce, you
would tell Hius his story? Started to

1025
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:49,520
tell us the story off here?
What was it? Oh? Uh?

1026
01:21:50,079 --> 01:21:56,159
The most embarrassing band that I've ever
seen. And I can guarantee you that

1027
01:21:56,239 --> 01:22:00,079
I'm the only person that anybody here
on this panel I'm probably even listening that

1028
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:06,319
his podcast has ever seen. I
saw the Bay City Rollers lois favorite band.

1029
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:13,840
You kidding me? And I and
I don't admit that in in in

1030
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:18,119
mixed company too often. I actually
didn't buy the tickets. I was actually

1031
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:23,399
this was and this was not too
long like after they you know, had

1032
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:30,000
that hit with Saturday Night and did
the uh uh was what show did he

1033
01:22:30,079 --> 01:22:38,079
do? Mac? Like midnight Special? I can't think of it anyway,

1034
01:22:41,279 --> 01:22:45,640
No, no, no, I
would co sell. Oh Joe Perfect,

1035
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,840
I would co sell. Actually had
a short lived variety show and I think

1036
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:53,560
that's where the basity rolls American debut. It wasn't too long after that.

1037
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:58,199
But back in the day, I
was really into buying like anything Beatles.

1038
01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:00,439
I could find memorabilia, Mac magazines, whatever. And I actually put an

1039
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:04,039
ad in the newspaper and this woman
called me up and said, yeah,

1040
01:23:04,119 --> 01:23:08,000
I have a bunch of stuff.
And I wasn't even driving at the time.

1041
01:23:08,039 --> 01:23:11,199
I actually drove my broke my bicycle
to her house simply about a half

1042
01:23:11,199 --> 01:23:14,520
an hour to get there. And
it turned out that she was a disc

1043
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,119
jockey on one of the on one
of the New York City radio stations.

1044
01:23:19,079 --> 01:23:24,279
I just remember her name was Paulie. I was on w PLJ or something

1045
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,520
like that. And I bought a
bunch of magazines from and she goes,

1046
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,079
oh, by the way she goes. You know, I get tickets from

1047
01:23:30,079 --> 01:23:31,239
time to time, you know,
being on the radio station. I have

1048
01:23:31,319 --> 01:23:34,159
these tickets to see the Basity Rowers. You know, do you want to

1049
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:38,039
go? And you know I didn't
have a lot of pocket money. I

1050
01:23:38,199 --> 01:23:39,920
was, you know, dating a
girl at the time. I said,

1051
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,600
sure, I'll take them. And
we saw the Basity Rowers at the Palladium

1052
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:48,800
in minatt And I can't swear that
they were playing their own music. It

1053
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,800
might have been it might have been
canned. I can't swear to it.

1054
01:23:53,359 --> 01:23:56,760
But I was probably like one of
the only males in the audience. He

1055
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,760
was pretty well. It was like
it was kind of fun. I don't

1056
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:00,960
want to say it was like the
Beatles, but it was kind of like

1057
01:24:01,079 --> 01:24:05,199
being in the in the balcony at
the end of a hard day's night.

1058
01:24:05,279 --> 01:24:09,000
Yeah. Yeah, people screaming,
kids screaming when they're playing, and that

1059
01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:13,840
the girls were all yelling and screaming. But tell the truth, Bruce,

1060
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,840
Did you have the socks? Did
you wear the socks to the they had

1061
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,520
the socks? Did you roll the
pants or whatever? Did you did you

1062
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:26,439
we have the socks and all of
that avoiding the question did you wear the

1063
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,000
socks? Yeah? Lois? Did
you wear the song? She still was

1064
01:24:30,079 --> 01:24:33,680
the socks? I did. I
did have the socks and the rolled up

1065
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:40,600
I bet I don't have them now, but I did at the time.

1066
01:24:41,039 --> 01:24:45,920
Absolutely, we all did. It
was cool. Yeah was What are your

1067
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:50,800
favorite? I don't even know who
the names of any all. That's all

1068
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,279
right, you can say it,
honey. I don't know the names of

1069
01:24:54,319 --> 01:24:58,000
it. Friends, I know the
song. It was a hit. I

1070
01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:00,640
was, you know, somebody into
pop music? Nothing else, So okay,

1071
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,760
all right, there is the period
at the end of the sentence.

1072
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:08,760
So if we're going to talk about
you know, I mean usually when you

1073
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,960
see bands, you expect them to
be, you know, good, and

1074
01:25:12,279 --> 01:25:14,920
no matter what, they are good, you know what I mean in a

1075
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,560
way. I mean, I'm sure
I've seen bands and they I thought they

1076
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,560
were great and they probably said,
well, we had an off night?

1077
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:23,159
Or does that happen? Matt?
Can you I don't want to say fool

1078
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:29,720
the audience, but can you kind
of Yeah, there's windy nights when like,

1079
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,039
for example, if you're an audience
member and you're going out to see

1080
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:38,680
a band that you really like,
to you that's once a year, once

1081
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:43,119
every few months, and you're all
fresh. That poor band is playing their

1082
01:25:43,399 --> 01:25:48,479
fifth or sixth show of the week
and playing the same songs again that night.

1083
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,279
And there they've been doing this now
for two years. They've been they

1084
01:25:51,319 --> 01:25:57,760
haven't been home yet, And so
there is an art to acting like you're

1085
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,880
into it for your audience. You're
burnt out. Counting Crows famously just started

1086
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:10,039
redoing, morphing our songs into odd
versions of what they originally were at the

1087
01:26:10,119 --> 01:26:13,359
beginning of a tour. WHI just
start to change just out of sheer boredom.

1088
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,880
Wowly, But when I've seen you
in YouTube, and I've mentioned this

1089
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,680
to you before, where you're playing
in front of forty fifty thousand people at

1090
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:28,439
these festivals whatever, and you never
got stage fright, you never got nervous.

1091
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,479
No, no, But again,
the Counting Crows is a little unusual

1092
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,439
in that it's all about the singer. You know, all of us in

1093
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:43,000
the back are very replaceable, nameless, faceless to a degree. I mean,

1094
01:26:43,039 --> 01:26:45,479
there are people that know all our
names, people that love our records

1095
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,279
and looked at the photograph and know
what we look like. This is before

1096
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:53,560
the internet took off too in the
early nineties, mid nineties, and so

1097
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,640
there would be fans waiting at the
bus that knew all of us, and

1098
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,840
so we'd meet those. But the
Adam took obviously the brunt of all the

1099
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,279
attention. You know, you can
see it in the audience as far as

1100
01:27:04,319 --> 01:27:09,640
you could look, is that ninety
percent of everybody's eyes are on Adam singing.

1101
01:27:10,399 --> 01:27:13,640
You know. So I didn't get
stage fright. I think mostly for

1102
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:17,119
that reason. I wasn't out there
as Matt Malley. I stood behind the

1103
01:27:18,159 --> 01:27:21,640
Adam and I stood next to the
drummer, and I would just play with

1104
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:27,479
him. Yeah. Yeah, for
me, you could be an introvert and

1105
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,159
be the bass player in Counting Cross. Yeah, you're you're very proficient and

1106
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:40,720
just played like kind of like uh, the rhythm guitars for ac DC.

1107
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:47,600
Who's the brother would just be excellutely
excellently playing with some kind of a showment.

1108
01:27:48,279 --> 01:27:53,319
Yes, he just passed away.
The brother of the guy who gets

1109
01:27:54,239 --> 01:27:59,600
dressed in the school get outfit.
Is your did the singer there of County

1110
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,199
Crows? He gets stage fright,
He's going to have Adam No, No,

1111
01:28:03,159 --> 01:28:06,720
he fed off of it. He
loved attention. In fact, one

1112
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:10,159
guy told me, the guitar player. He said, early on, if

1113
01:28:10,199 --> 01:28:14,640
you put ten or twenty screaming girls
in front of at him, he becomes

1114
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,239
a genius. And he did every
night. You know, he would improvise

1115
01:28:18,359 --> 01:28:23,840
and write songs if people are looking
at him, if pretty girls are looking

1116
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,920
at him, he just came alive. He loved it. He fed off

1117
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,279
that, you know, like any
good performer would. Yeah. Sorry,

1118
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,560
I want to say something about he's
a lucky guy, right, that would

1119
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:42,600
be your no. I think that's
why many men get into music, you

1120
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,520
know, after you said, that's
why you started a band. After that's

1121
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,880
why everyone spans is to get girls. The guy who used to tell the

1122
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:54,920
folks sing the folk songs around the
fire in the dark ages, he was

1123
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,720
getting laid probably after that, don't
you think, Okay, that's cross Yeah,

1124
01:28:59,399 --> 01:29:01,399
I mean yeah, you get yeah, you get in a band and

1125
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:05,000
your adolescence to meet girls. Well, most people do. If they say,

1126
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:09,479
but look at the music, Look
look what comes of it. Look

1127
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:14,359
at the music that comes of it, you know, and and no taking

1128
01:29:14,399 --> 01:29:16,600
it seriously, but just just take
the Beatles for an example. Okay,

1129
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,680
if there were no Beatles there would
be no led Zeppelin, there'd be none

1130
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:24,279
of that. There'd be none of
that. We'd be singing hoot Nanny is

1131
01:29:24,399 --> 01:29:27,319
some freaking thing. I mean,
just just think how many guitar how many

1132
01:29:27,359 --> 01:29:30,840
people learned how to play the guitar
because they saw the Beatles in that soul

1133
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:32,279
of it, you know, I
mean, it's it's millions, millions.

1134
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:39,760
Let's do a little survey here.
We know you did did one try?

1135
01:29:40,119 --> 01:29:45,079
Did Bruce tried to? Bruce was
in the band, was in a band

1136
01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:49,840
in the sixties. All of us
were in bands. And clearly Matt was

1137
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:57,640
so okay and that was your motivation. Was everybody in agreement. Yeah,

1138
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,920
girls and girls and yeah, okay, there you go, your instrument to

1139
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:10,199
attract chicks four and four for four
okay. It was liberation from being a

1140
01:30:10,279 --> 01:30:16,359
geek in Mike. Yeah, I
mean, I know this is debated,

1141
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:20,600
but there were there was a period
of eight years where, you know,

1142
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:27,399
late nineties or early two thousands where
the turntable was considered the the big instrument

1143
01:30:27,399 --> 01:30:30,600
instrument of time because it was out
selling guitars. And that's when I became

1144
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:38,479
a club DJ, and it it
gave me, you know, total introvert,

1145
01:30:39,159 --> 01:30:43,640
you'd be surprised. I'm actually really
shy and awkward, and DJing gave

1146
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,000
me an ability to, I don't
know, to experience what it was like

1147
01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:50,239
to have a roomful of people cheer
you on. Never had that before.

1148
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:56,279
Amazing music. Nothing music does,
you know. I mean, it really

1149
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,560
is something that everyone in the world
agrees on. That's one thing I'm always

1150
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,920
saying a low us. You really
can who doesn't like music? You know

1151
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:06,039
what I mean? I mean it
might be well, I've met one person

1152
01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:10,000
and they were one of they truly
were one of the strangest people I've ever

1153
01:31:10,079 --> 01:31:14,880
met. They did not like music, period, any kind. That's any

1154
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,800
kind. They and and this is
true, and they weren't they were lying.

1155
01:31:18,039 --> 01:31:24,840
They were a manager at a record
store job, this is one and

1156
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,640
they did not like any music.
I was like, hey, we're your

1157
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,199
favorite bands. So I started working
there and they're like, I don't like

1158
01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:35,279
music, Yeah, you like something
I don't. And they weren't being I

1159
01:31:35,319 --> 01:31:42,279
mean worth. Then they're like,
yeah, she doesn't like music. Something.

1160
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,840
We get like about ten minutes left, and I'm just gonna throw this

1161
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:49,920
out there because I think asked Matt
one question about when I watch a band

1162
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:55,960
I like, I get a kick
out of they are accessories that they're wearing.

1163
01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:04,079
Okay, the wardrobe attention to wardrobe
is amazing these days, but the

1164
01:32:04,199 --> 01:32:10,800
accessories that go with it it can
also be amazing. What was up with

1165
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:15,399
the guitar player wearing like one of
those green air freshness you would see hanging

1166
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,880
from the rearview mirror in a car. What was up with that? He

1167
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:24,000
was hoping to charm girls by wearing
an air fresher so he doesn't have bo

1168
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:29,520
You know, I've come to realize
that when we're all little babies and we're

1169
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:33,439
being cooed at and loved, that
that kind of wants to get revisited in

1170
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,520
adolescence. We all want to be
the star of our grammar school and then

1171
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:41,600
the star of our high school.
And that need to be a rock star.

1172
01:32:42,039 --> 01:32:45,199
Yes, that that need to be
a rock star is like wanting to

1173
01:32:45,239 --> 01:32:47,560
be a little baby and have all
your friends and relatives cooing over you.

1174
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:54,600
Again, it's just taken into your
did you mention that? Why not?

1175
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:59,000
On the HBO Doctor Much Lost?
They don't teach music in school anymore,

1176
01:32:59,039 --> 01:33:01,800
you know. The churches for music
classes is out the window. And I

1177
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:10,439
remember when I was young and going
to school in Cambridge, Massachusetts, Uh,

1178
01:33:11,159 --> 01:33:15,279
the PbD School. We had a
but we had a music, music

1179
01:33:15,319 --> 01:33:19,199
class, but it wasn't just about
music like you. We weren't talking about

1180
01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:21,640
the circle of fifths. But today, if it was you talking about the

1181
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:27,199
circle of fifths to be you know, surrounded by liquor bottles, that would

1182
01:33:27,199 --> 01:33:29,960
be the circle of fifths. No, not that circle of fifths, you

1183
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:33,239
idiot. Anyway, we had a
guy that would come in and would would

1184
01:33:33,279 --> 01:33:43,760
bring in as a little bit the
what an Edison cylinder Oh really original record

1185
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:49,119
that's funny. Yeah, a real
genuine Edisent cylinder machine and a box of

1186
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:57,000
records cylinders and they were like in
these velvet cases that like each cylinder had

1187
01:33:57,039 --> 01:33:59,760
its own slot. I'm sure.
Yeah. Yeah, you didn't like this

1188
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,960
briefcase? You open it up and
you know, handle with care. Yeah

1189
01:34:03,039 --> 01:34:05,520
yeah, put it out there.
Wind this thing up. But why do

1190
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:10,920
you think schools, why do you
think schools don't teach music? Because every

1191
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:15,319
school yeah yeah, school music.
But in the inner cities. What happened

1192
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,840
was and not to you know,
override your story though. LAist and we

1193
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:24,119
talked am about this before. The
reason that the turntable and stuff became so

1194
01:34:24,279 --> 01:34:28,439
popular was that in the eighties when
Ronnie Reagan was in there, Nancy convinced

1195
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:32,439
him to do two things. Empty
all the federal asylums or people you know,

1196
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:36,800
and mental facilities, and also cut
the budgets for a lot of odds

1197
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:41,159
in the inner city. Right.
And so what these kids did was they

1198
01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:45,119
had nothing. So these kids just
get saxophones and drums and stuff in school,

1199
01:34:45,239 --> 01:34:47,600
you know. And I've said before, they how many musicians have come

1200
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,800
out of like holem and stuff like
that, and just because of that.

1201
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,800
So suddenly they don't have it.
So what do they do. They go

1202
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:59,479
to the turntables. It's the most
it's the greatest story about adaption that you

1203
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:01,279
can get. They went, and
that's why you get the MC's and you

1204
01:35:01,359 --> 01:35:04,840
got DJs. And they used the
turntables as their instrument. And then they

1205
01:35:05,159 --> 01:35:10,880
out selling guitars probably five years later. There was any i think an eight

1206
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:15,159
year period where it outsold the guitar. It was unbelievable, amazing. So

1207
01:35:15,359 --> 01:35:19,279
anyway, I was going to say, oh, just real quick, we

1208
01:35:19,399 --> 01:35:24,720
got like five minutes now. But
thinking about music and people don't like music,

1209
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:29,119
which is seems impossible to me.
But I think I think that music

1210
01:35:29,239 --> 01:35:32,720
is almost in your DNA or something
because and we've said this before too.

1211
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,159
You see these little kids from there, mostly from Japan, and they're playing

1212
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:41,880
you know, rock monovv in Beethoven
when they're four years old. Okay,

1213
01:35:42,159 --> 01:35:45,560
it's called the Suzuki mount. Then
I know that. But how can a

1214
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:51,119
kid who is barely talk and walk
play Beethoven if it isn't somewhere already in

1215
01:35:51,199 --> 01:35:55,960
there, you know what I mean? They can't. I have a theory,

1216
01:35:56,239 --> 01:36:00,479
okay, real quick. I worked
on a documentary about dementia and Alzheimer's

1217
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:11,359
and we shot an interview with somebody
who had very long developing They had Alzheimer's.

1218
01:36:11,359 --> 01:36:13,880
For a while, he'd be sitting
next to his daughter. He would

1219
01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:17,479
he would talk to her, she
would tell him who he who she was,

1220
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,840
and then a minute later he would
forget. However, he would then

1221
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:28,800
pick up a violin and play it
perfectly. Oh man, And there's something

1222
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:33,239
about there. They said in the
study of dementia that music, forgetting music

1223
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:39,640
is one of the last things to
go so to if you have somebody suffering

1224
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:43,720
from dementia or Alzheimer's play music.
I can't. I mean, is it

1225
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,840
weird to suggest, like, you
know, go back to when you're a

1226
01:36:47,039 --> 01:36:54,840
child, Like there's something about music, rhythm, something that's maybe it's from

1227
01:36:54,880 --> 01:37:00,239
being in the womb and hearing the
like the blood pumping, like I don't

1228
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:05,800
know the rhythm of the body like, but it's I I don't know,

1229
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:10,920
but I find them. They have
to be related somehow. Yeah, that's

1230
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:15,000
too much of a Yeah. We
would see a good friend of mine as

1231
01:37:15,159 --> 01:37:19,239
is used to play in like a
Beatlemania band, Matt you've met Mike Pooling,

1232
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:27,279
and and we would They were a
really good band, really good beatle

1233
01:37:27,319 --> 01:37:30,439
band. What were they called Help
or something? Really good. They didn't

1234
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:35,039
go for the look, but they
went for and they also played like really

1235
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:40,520
kind of B side stuff, you
know, you know stuff you really but

1236
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,479
we would go. We saw them
often, and you knew one minute into

1237
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,000
playing the same thing was going to
happen. A barrage of little kids would

1238
01:37:47,079 --> 01:37:51,760
run up to the state and start
dancing O every time we went, and

1239
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:54,960
we said, look at this,
you know, look at these kids.

1240
01:37:55,079 --> 01:37:58,680
And then still it's somehow hitting them, you know what I mean, it's

1241
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,520
something to make the move and you
know, act crazy. It was a

1242
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:05,239
good sign. Yeah, it is
a phenomenon even even today. Didn't they

1243
01:38:05,279 --> 01:38:15,039
play every year the Homecoming festival in
Newburyport Mark Pohlan's band, Yes, yeah,

1244
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,239
and they also play Beatle Juice also
played the Beetle Juice. Beatle Juice

1245
01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:23,359
played there too. I think I
was taking guitar lessons for a while from

1246
01:38:23,399 --> 01:38:28,000
one of the members of Beetle Juice. I wasn't a big fan of guitar

1247
01:38:28,119 --> 01:38:31,439
lessons, but he was good.
He was good. But you're right,

1248
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:36,800
that phenomenon of here's the live band
and here's they're playing Beatles stuff like just

1249
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:41,279
perfectly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which isn't easy to do.

1250
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:46,800
Product kids who certainly were very you
know, wouldn't remember the Beatles.

1251
01:38:47,399 --> 01:38:53,359
They were lucky their parents would have
remembered the Beatles. Yet that their music

1252
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:58,760
it resonates. Yeah, yeah,
all of everybody. Was one thing that

1253
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,159
my daughter thought was amazing when I
took her to see the Rolling Stones that

1254
01:39:01,399 --> 01:39:05,520
in Buffalo during the Zip Code tour, and she this was the first time

1255
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:10,079
she's seen the Rolling Stones. She
didn't go to many concerts to begin with,

1256
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:15,119
but to see the spread of age
groups that were going there to see

1257
01:39:15,159 --> 01:39:19,119
the rolling Stone. Yeah, that's
when you know you haven't made all ages

1258
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:25,359
young kids to great grandparents basically you
could tell by looking at them. But

1259
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:29,760
the age groups that she was just
sitting there, we're there like, you

1260
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:31,279
know, hours before the gates opened. Just like, wait a minute,

1261
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,399
is that who's lying up to come
in here? This is like, this

1262
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:43,800
is crazy and just music has the
capability of bringing large groups of people together.

1263
01:39:44,359 --> 01:39:50,239
Yeah, you don't have the music
foundation from the very beginning, you're

1264
01:39:50,239 --> 01:39:53,600
gonna lose it. You're gonna you're
gonna pick it up somewhere along the line.

1265
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,560
But it's nice to have a foundation, whether it's in school or you

1266
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:00,920
know, extracurricular activities. That's that's
would be the best I think that people

1267
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,319
here around the house, you know
what I mean. We're talking about the

1268
01:40:03,399 --> 01:40:08,159
other show where in after World War
Two, the British government kind of like

1269
01:40:08,319 --> 01:40:14,319
subsidized people buying pianos, okay,
just to have one kind of you know,

1270
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:19,520
a morale busta and so a lot
of kids grow up with people learning

1271
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,199
how to play the piano, singing. You know, you hear my cott

1272
01:40:23,279 --> 01:40:26,359
You're always on and on all the
stories. Always aunts and uncles just go

1273
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,560
over and sing and stuff like that. You know that doesn't really happen in

1274
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:33,960
America in my you know, you
know experience, but they and that's why

1275
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,720
it's and we were talking about this
the other night too. We get go

1276
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:41,199
really soon. But when you think
of all the music that has come out

1277
01:40:41,199 --> 01:40:44,079
of England and you compare it to
the music that's come out of America,

1278
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:46,760
England's such a small place, you
know what I mean, Think of all

1279
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:50,359
the music that has come out of
England. Just just sense the Beatles and

1280
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:56,640
it's probably it probably matches the United
States, but you have a much smaller

1281
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:02,000
population to you know what I mean. Yeah, it's weird. All right,

1282
01:41:02,039 --> 01:41:04,239
we're gonna go around the horn.
You got one last thing to say.

1283
01:41:04,239 --> 01:41:10,399
I'm gonna go with Bruce. Okay. I thought it would have been

1284
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:14,520
interesting to you have to hear like
a you know, like your Desert Island

1285
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:16,039
discsh Yeah, you know, like
you want a desert Island, Like what

1286
01:41:16,119 --> 01:41:20,880
would you take with you? One
one album that I always go back to,

1287
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:26,039
and uh, it's just a great
record. Beginning to end. Diyre

1288
01:41:26,119 --> 01:41:30,399
Straits making movies. Oh yes,
a great album. Yeah again, And

1289
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,399
we went to see them live once
Lowest you probably don't even remember it to

1290
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:39,880
you, at the Albany Ego whatever
where was. They're unbelievable. I'm so

1291
01:41:40,039 --> 01:41:42,920
glad I saw them. That was
like there when they're really you know,

1292
01:41:43,079 --> 01:41:47,960
going about four years after something's a
swing. They were almost jazzy. They

1293
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:53,199
had two keyboard players, which is
weird because it's a primarily talk about the

1294
01:41:53,239 --> 01:41:56,840
guy out front. Black Knaflow is
the guy out front of that man playing

1295
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:00,840
like crazy doing all the singing.
It's just an exciting, really well done

1296
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:04,319
show. I'm glad I saw them. They're really good. Yeah, Trevor.

1297
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:12,079
Last thoughts, Tucker, please tell
them you know this, Tucker,

1298
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,279
This uh, this kind of this, this episode kind of motivated me.

1299
01:42:16,359 --> 01:42:19,479
I've been going back on back and
forth on whether I should get tickets to

1300
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:25,800
E l O this summer, and
I think I'm going to do it because

1301
01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:31,279
I realized this might be my only
opportunity to see Jeff Lynn, who has

1302
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:39,920
produced so many albums that I love, and I, yeah, I gotta

1303
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,199
do it. You know, I
gave your money, save your money now,

1304
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,199
George here, I know, right, Person's Cloud nine. That album

1305
01:42:47,279 --> 01:42:53,399
doesn't get a lot of respect,
but I think Jeff Lynn's work on it

1306
01:42:53,560 --> 01:43:00,039
is fantastic. I ever bought Yeah, right, yeah, I think I

1307
01:43:00,079 --> 01:43:04,000
think it's a good, really good
album and it just sounds great. Yeah.

1308
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:08,520
He talked about having the touch.
Man, that guy has the touch,

1309
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:13,760
you know what I mean. Is
an unbelievable Yeah. Maybe I like

1310
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:15,800
him more than Quincy Jones, I
don't know, but is he incredible?

1311
01:43:16,079 --> 01:43:20,119
Yeah, Quincy Jones was. I
mean, Quincy Jones is great at what

1312
01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:24,319
he did. I think one of
the best things he did was like the

1313
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:30,000
pre Michael Jackson getting unbelievably huge album
was off the wall all that that album,

1314
01:43:30,319 --> 01:43:33,680
Yes, I had unbelievable and produced. There's banjos in that album with

1315
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:38,960
there's banjo's on songs on those album. But you know, he he he

1316
01:43:39,079 --> 01:43:40,920
just knew how to do it,
you know what I mean, He just

1317
01:43:41,119 --> 01:43:44,439
he just he knew the sound.
He grasps a lot of a lot of

1318
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:46,640
that music is done by Toto as
it turns out, and also on the

1319
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:54,399
the next album of Throwing. But
anyway, so Matt last thoughts well,

1320
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:58,239
talking about great albums, there's a
great album also one being in England.

1321
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:03,079
It's a uniquely English, right,
It's called Pink Moon by Nick Drake's Oh

1322
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:09,920
yeah, that's a desert. Yeah. He's interesting guy. He passed away

1323
01:44:10,159 --> 01:44:13,279
many years ago, right as they
said, Yeah, in his early twenties,

1324
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,239
very young, in his parents parents
house, and they weren't sure if

1325
01:44:16,279 --> 01:44:19,359
it was suicide. He was taking
the pills I think, to sleep and

1326
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:24,159
he had taken way too many.
But he was also the type that would

1327
01:44:24,199 --> 01:44:28,000
just keep taking them until he would
sleep. I guess controversy. Yeah,

1328
01:44:28,399 --> 01:44:31,279
is it like a Balladia songwriter type
guy, Yeah, a little bit.

1329
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:35,920
He's kind of in the English folk
revivalism genre. But it's the record is

1330
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:40,880
just acoustic guitar and him his voice, and he plays acoustic guitar. There's

1331
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:45,520
a piano on the first track.
But it's just one of the top three

1332
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,920
records of the history of the universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When

1333
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:55,000
I worked at a record sore like
popular albums came and went, but we

1334
01:44:56,840 --> 01:45:01,359
Nick Drake was just always selling year
after year, week after week, day

1335
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:06,760
after day, just everybody. I
bet it's still the same way today,

1336
01:45:08,279 --> 01:45:14,600
Like a guy just moved records amazing. Yeah, and I'm going to go

1337
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:18,319
to Lowis. Lowis final thoughts.
We are we stopping at a subshop on

1338
01:45:18,359 --> 01:45:28,720
the way home. My final thought
is not about what I would take on

1339
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:32,279
a desert island. It is just
the fact. And we've talked about this

1340
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:40,840
before, how music. We've talked
about how peace can be achieved through music,

1341
01:45:41,079 --> 01:45:47,079
because except for the person who works
at Tucker's Record store, everybody like

1342
01:45:47,399 --> 01:45:54,760
you can really relate to music.
And if you can somehow connect over music,

1343
01:45:54,920 --> 01:46:00,359
you can connect over other things and
just find a common ground. So

1344
01:46:00,279 --> 01:46:06,000
that's my little soapbox. Yeah,
that's true. You know that in sports,

1345
01:46:06,079 --> 01:46:10,720
I mean though they've they've they've had
wall over sports like hot doors,

1346
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:15,399
and you know, sports is different
because it's a competition and then people pick

1347
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:20,800
sides. But music and while I
granted not everybody will agree that they like

1348
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:25,760
all kinds of music, but if
you can be like you've always said about

1349
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:30,000
John Lennon said, you just have
to appreciate music for music's sake. You

1350
01:46:30,079 --> 01:46:33,520
might not this might not be your
favorite, but you have to appreciate,

1351
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:39,479
appreciate the musicality and the talent that
went into it. And if you can

1352
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:44,039
look at it, that's creates an
open mind, and then it opens doors

1353
01:46:44,039 --> 01:46:46,439
to other things. I think he
said, don't be a snob about music,

1354
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:48,760
John Lennon is a probably one of
the best things I ever said.

1355
01:46:49,079 --> 01:46:51,800
Don't be a snob about music.
Listen to everything you know, don't be

1356
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:56,239
a snob about don't be a rock
and roll snob is what he was saying,

1357
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,600
you know, listen to classroom.
And he also has that great line,

1358
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,960
what's the name of the book on? Oh, you mean the one

1359
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:08,279
that's sitting on the table that I
look at every day. I don't remember

1360
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:13,359
something. It's just basically, oh, I know, everything's going to work

1361
01:47:13,399 --> 01:47:16,119
out in the end. If it
doesn't, it's not the end, right,

1362
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:20,319
And it's a book that is a
collection of his quotes. It's just

1363
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:26,560
like, oh he said that,
it's just very actually quote in a movie

1364
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:30,199
somewhere. Was that than Yesterday?
Maybe? Yeah? Probably? Yep,

1365
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:35,039
Yeah, So anyway, I think
Jack Malleck quoted that in Yesterday, didn't

1366
01:47:35,039 --> 01:47:43,279
he? Yeah? Probably? So
final thoughts go ahead, wand please the

1367
01:47:43,359 --> 01:47:47,000
bass play for Diastroitch lives in my
town, just a few miles away.

1368
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:55,840
He's got a he's got a pub
and he plays quite a bit, you

1369
01:47:55,920 --> 01:48:00,079
know, usually he stays out of
the limelight, but once a while he

1370
01:48:00,159 --> 01:48:03,199
picked. He picks. He plays
guitar too. And have you seen him

1371
01:48:03,239 --> 01:48:06,039
a little bit in the pub?
Have you seen him? You're stalking him

1372
01:48:06,079 --> 01:48:12,119
to right here in Lymington? Have
you seen him? Not yet? No?

1373
01:48:14,399 --> 01:48:15,800
Theay, I got to go.
There's still time you got to get

1374
01:48:16,079 --> 01:48:18,479
and really announced when he's gonna if
he's going to be playing, or if

1375
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:24,840
he if he's even going to be
in town. Well if you, if

1376
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,760
you run into him, tell him
that Tucker hot Stuff says, Hi,

1377
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:34,479
write that down, Okay. One
of my Desert Island discs, though out

1378
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:41,920
of the ordinaries, like lou Reed
Transformer album. Like the way it's done.

1379
01:48:42,039 --> 01:48:45,840
I like the songs on it.
The production is great. Everything about

1380
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:51,000
that record is amazing. Does that
have Satellite of Love on it? Satellite

1381
01:48:51,079 --> 01:48:58,399
of Love? Yeah, a Perfect
Day? Yeah, Outside is a great

1382
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:00,600
song. But there's a lot of
other great songs on that too. You

1383
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:04,600
know David Billie Sing's the backup vocal
on Satellite of Love. Yeah, they

1384
01:49:05,319 --> 01:49:10,720
share studios. They did a lot
of work together. Amazing. Yeah,

1385
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:13,680
he's in with all those Indie Wa
Hall people. I mean, I'm sorry,

1386
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:15,960
I don't get it. You know, you can't get everything. I

1387
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:19,760
don't get Elvis Costello, sorry Lewis, but I don't get lou Reid.

1388
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,720
I don't get the velvet on ground. So many times they're trying to listen

1389
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:28,640
to not get it, to not
get it. They thought that the Boston

1390
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:34,800
Tea Party was the best venue they've
ever played in. What of it underground?

1391
01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:40,319
The Boston Tea Party? Oh man, that's I do that their home

1392
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:43,359
venue. I used to go there. I saw so many This is a

1393
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,079
little It was an old church.
It's right next to Fenway Park. It

1394
01:49:45,199 --> 01:49:50,199
was an old church in like a
storefront church. And you win, and

1395
01:49:51,159 --> 01:49:55,720
you know, I saw the Kinks
there. I saw Santana there, saw

1396
01:49:56,239 --> 01:50:01,319
Bonny and Delaney with Eric Clapton,
BB King. BB King and his orchestra

1397
01:50:01,399 --> 01:50:04,119
were there. We were just blown
away. You know, it's like really

1398
01:50:04,239 --> 01:50:08,920
kind of opening up the Doorstoll.
But they used to pass out pills for

1399
01:50:09,039 --> 01:50:12,359
free on the line and everything's really
responsible some of the stuff that went on

1400
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,439
there, you know, the sixties. But light shows were cool. Light

1401
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,720
shows were knots. Yeah, it
was. It was really freaky place.

1402
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:26,560
Man, that was we got He's
the thing when you would you. Well,

1403
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:30,399
we were in this room once where
people get their faces painted, okay,

1404
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,880
and someone lit off a firecracker in
this place, which is crazy,

1405
01:50:34,039 --> 01:50:38,800
right. So the bouncer comes over
to me and my friend and we're not

1406
01:50:39,039 --> 01:50:41,520
involved, and he opens up the
door and he goes get out and he

1407
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:44,439
pushes us out and we're on the
railroad tracks that go right a behind the

1408
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,640
mass Pike there and it's pouring rain
and you can't get out of there.

1409
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:51,199
We had a walk for like miles
to anyway. That was my memory,

1410
01:50:51,359 --> 01:50:56,159
exactly what you're talking about. But
yeah, yeah, nice place, you

1411
01:50:56,199 --> 01:50:59,439
know, I mean back in the
day. So I'm just saying. The

1412
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:03,920
last thing I'm I'm going to say
is I don't know about Desert Island albums.

1413
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:05,600
You know, you want to say
you want to bring the Beatles and

1414
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:09,079
stuff like that, but you don't
want to get you know, you want

1415
01:51:09,079 --> 01:51:11,319
to bring something that you don't get
sick of listening to. And I and

1416
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:14,319
now I am being a stop.
But we talked about Miles Davis earlier.

1417
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:17,199
It just in the past two or
three months. Listening to his songs,

1418
01:51:17,239 --> 01:51:20,319
they never get tired, they never
get old, the way that he put

1419
01:51:20,359 --> 01:51:27,239
it together. It's very complicated,
but it's still kind of uh, you

1420
01:51:27,319 --> 01:51:30,920
know, it kind of attracts my
attention whatever and everyone in his band.

1421
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,359
That was another thing about him.
I mean it wone remembers him was like

1422
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,119
a really bad guy. And you
know, he was a real mean guy

1423
01:51:35,239 --> 01:51:39,479
for sure, but he had reasons
to be like that for the most part.

1424
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:43,760
But he always had unbelievable musicians in
his band. He went out of

1425
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,399
his way and he paid them a
lot of money. Miles Davis did not

1426
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,359
grow up poor. He grew up
very rich and East Saint Louis. His

1427
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:54,479
father was a dentist. He drove
up Dragua during the depression. His father

1428
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:58,199
did so. When he went to
Juliet and the you know, the teachers

1429
01:51:58,239 --> 01:52:00,600
saying, well, you know,
to play the blues have to be down

1430
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:02,079
there, you have to suffer,
you have to you know, basically pick

1431
01:52:02,159 --> 01:52:05,159
the cot in yourself. He says, Now you don't you know, I'm

1432
01:52:05,199 --> 01:52:10,439
from a millionaires family, you know, and any and he changed the way

1433
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:15,000
they thought about it. So interesting
guy in his late stuff, his early

1434
01:52:15,039 --> 01:52:18,680
stuff, I don't know, but
in the eighties when he embraced electronic music

1435
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:23,359
and stuff, great just great.
You know, I never thought I'd be

1436
01:52:23,399 --> 01:52:27,159
one to fall for it, but
I did so. And also the tipping

1437
01:52:27,199 --> 01:52:31,079
point by Tears, Sophias and tre
you Tully, you agree with me?

1438
01:52:31,199 --> 01:52:35,399
Right? Can't recommend it? Well, I mean surprise out of the blow

1439
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:42,000
great album. Hm, he's thinking
I got to give it another triy Mac.

1440
01:52:42,039 --> 01:52:45,479
I'm sorry, I gotta get but
I was working today while I was

1441
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:48,199
listening to it. I couldn't give
it my full attention. Okay, I

1442
01:52:48,279 --> 01:52:55,960
mean, I'm we'll cut this out. Don't worry you cut this uh,

1443
01:52:56,359 --> 01:52:59,960
you know, big fan of the
early stuff, but it's uh and that's

1444
01:53:00,119 --> 01:53:03,880
not to say nostalsa just taking over, you know, my subjective thought,

1445
01:53:04,039 --> 01:53:08,279
objective thought. But yeah, I
got to listen to it again. Well

1446
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:11,159
it's well, you know, to
cut back in. Yes, it's amazing,

1447
01:53:11,279 --> 01:53:14,760
Mac, it's incredible's album. Okay. You know it came out in

1448
01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:19,760
twenty twenty two. We have two
versions, okay, perfect. So anyway,

1449
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:21,479
all right, we got to wrap
this up. So I'm going to

1450
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:26,119
have to say goodbye to let me
start with Matt. I have to start

1451
01:53:26,199 --> 01:53:29,199
with you, okay, because uh
oh, I should step a walm on.

1452
01:53:29,279 --> 01:53:30,119
He has to go to bed,
but never mind. So Matt,

1453
01:53:30,199 --> 01:53:34,800
thanks for joining us. We really
appreciate it. Pleasure. We're going to

1454
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:39,960
clap you off, as they say, and we won't edit that out.

1455
01:53:40,119 --> 01:53:43,560
So yeah, let us know when
the HBO special is going to be on,

1456
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,760
and uh, you know, we'll
talk to you real soon. What

1457
01:53:45,159 --> 01:53:48,920
you say, the weather is now
beautiful out there? Yeah, yeah,

1458
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:54,359
it's five twelve in the afternoon.
The sun is up and bright, and

1459
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:58,479
it's hard to feel despair in California. That's okay. I think that's why

1460
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:00,880
I'm thankful for living here, but
I I'm just I'd like to be somewhere

1461
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:04,840
else, but it's hard to feel
sadness with all this damn sunshine. Yeah,

1462
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:08,359
yeah, that's tough to take.
That's okay, man, Thank you,

1463
01:54:09,279 --> 01:54:14,600
Thank you for carrying the Bruden there. You're mad, Bruce. Thank

1464
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:17,640
you very much, Bruce. Yeah, thank you, Bruce. It was

1465
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:20,800
it was my pleasure. This was
a lot of fun. I'd like to

1466
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:25,800
do it again. Really my pleasure
meeting you guys. And I know your

1467
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:30,199
audience can't see us, but I'm
uh. Matt and Trevor have great heads

1468
01:54:30,199 --> 01:54:34,720
of hair, and it really was
a pleasure meeting you. Guys. Yeah,

1469
01:54:35,279 --> 01:54:39,319
you know, Mac and Lowis is
always good scene. It's good to

1470
01:54:39,399 --> 01:54:41,439
see you. Thanks, Bruce.
Thank you, Bruce. We'll talk to

1471
01:54:41,439 --> 01:54:44,640
you very much. You're awesome,
Bruce. It's great meeting you. Yeah.

1472
01:54:45,359 --> 01:54:51,359
Yeah, Tucker, time for us
to say goodbye now that you haven't

1473
01:54:51,399 --> 01:54:56,199
made by I love I truly do. I love this show so much.

1474
01:54:56,319 --> 01:55:00,479
But I'm just gonna take this moment
to remind people I was fired from flesh

1475
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:06,000
Light. So there's anybody from the
adult sex toy community that you know,

1476
01:55:06,079 --> 01:55:13,119
any openings in that industry? I
mean, I'm I'm your guy. No,

1477
01:55:14,359 --> 01:55:17,720
I guess okay, there you go. Make sure your update your profile

1478
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:26,000
on LinkedIn. I'm sure. Oh
Lois is e the laughing and crying,

1479
01:55:26,079 --> 01:55:30,119
I can't tell I took my head
off idea. I didn't hear any of

1480
01:55:30,199 --> 01:55:36,600
this. It's fine. I'm used
to both something. Okay. One one

1481
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:42,399
Raven about that? Did you did
you know if I Raven then I got

1482
01:55:42,439 --> 01:55:46,319
fired from flesh Light? Yeah?
I know right after we wrap on this

1483
01:55:46,399 --> 01:55:53,600
episode. Yeah, she may help
me out. One one, thank you

1484
01:55:54,039 --> 01:55:58,319
for joining us. One one,
thank you for joining us. The Chips

1485
01:55:58,319 --> 01:56:00,760
of the Fish welcome, sirs.
Pleasure all mine. It's happy to contribute

1486
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:03,880
and happy to be part of the
show. Is that a fake background behind

1487
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:08,680
you? Is that an electronic background? Yes, that's my that's my old

1488
01:56:11,039 --> 01:56:15,199
bookshelf and slash record cabinet below me. You can't see it in the old

1489
01:56:15,239 --> 01:56:21,039
house. I missed that shelf system
with all my books. And she was

1490
01:56:21,079 --> 01:56:24,560
going to say it looked hard with
they have books in the background. I

1491
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:27,000
hate to say it, you know, but it's usually I would dress it

1492
01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:30,520
up with albums like for some reason, I was well, for many reasons.

1493
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:34,199
I was featuring the Rolling Stones and
it's their first US album, or

1494
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:41,720
you know, the New England's England's
newest hit makers, the Rolling Stones.

1495
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:45,079
Yeah, yeah, they got so
record would tell me on it in Route

1496
01:56:45,119 --> 01:56:49,000
sixty six. Yeah, all covers
except for telling me yep. Yeah.

1497
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:54,039
They got so popular so quick that
they used to play the girls used to

1498
01:56:54,079 --> 01:56:56,720
scream so much and them they used
to play the theme to Pop Eye and

1499
01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:00,880
no one would notice it in the
middle of the concerts. They have recordings

1500
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:06,720
on them, so anyway, so
listen, all right, thank you all

1501
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:10,479
for joining us. Really had a
lot of fun. We'll do it again,

1502
01:57:11,479 --> 01:57:14,359
same time next month. Let me
do the plugs real quick. First

1503
01:57:14,359 --> 01:57:17,079
of all, I just want to
tell everyone we apologizing to the listeners who

1504
01:57:17,159 --> 01:57:23,439
are listening on Apple podcasts. It
trans out that Apple puts in ads.

1505
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:27,239
I just you know, they don't
think of editing. They just like,

1506
01:57:27,359 --> 01:57:30,079
stop the show in the middle,
put an ad in, pick it up,

1507
01:57:30,039 --> 01:57:34,039
no finesse in it at all.
Sorry. The thing to do is

1508
01:57:34,199 --> 01:57:38,079
to someone said, if once you
start on Apple podcast because a lot of

1509
01:57:38,119 --> 01:57:42,079
people listen to us on Apple podcasts, when you start the show, just

1510
01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:45,920
say to the whatever, what's the
real Siri? What is it Alexa?

1511
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:51,239
Go ahead two minutes? Yeah,
whatever Amazon thing? Alexi's Amazon Apple is

1512
01:57:51,319 --> 01:57:54,800
Siri? Okay, so just say
go ahead two minutes. And for some

1513
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:58,520
reason, you know, it starts
the show where it's supposed to. Oh,

1514
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,920
just go to podbean dot com,
which is where the first kind of

1515
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:05,680
platform we loaded up into, no
ads, and all the shows are archived.

1516
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:09,720
So what difference does it make where
you listen to it. Go to

1517
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:14,840
podbeam if the ads bullying you that
much. Also, Homestart Troops is an

1518
01:58:15,239 --> 01:58:20,039
organization that raises money for wounded veterans
people were wounded in combat after nine to

1519
01:58:20,079 --> 01:58:25,960
eleven that's the Afghan War and the
Iraqi war. These are people who came

1520
01:58:26,039 --> 01:58:30,399
home without looms and so on,
and so home Strut Troops builds them homes

1521
01:58:30,439 --> 01:58:33,439
and houses that adapted to their needs. In other words, not a lot

1522
01:58:33,439 --> 01:58:36,279
of stairs, low counter space,
stuff like that. And then when they

1523
01:58:36,319 --> 01:58:40,000
build them the homes and their great
homes because loss and I saw one about

1524
01:58:40,039 --> 01:58:44,119
a year ago, beautiful place.
They give them the keys, they rip

1525
01:58:44,239 --> 01:58:47,039
up the mortgage. They don't have
to pay them mortgage forever. It's their

1526
01:58:47,119 --> 01:58:51,520
home and they can go out and
rejoin society and that's where they should be.

1527
01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:57,079
They give a lot for us.
We should give something back to them.

1528
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:01,079
That's Home Start Troops ninety cents on
a dollar. Your charity dollar goes

1529
01:59:01,119 --> 01:59:04,640
to our veterans, and that's a
lot in the charity business. Please check

1530
01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:09,239
them out. And also wire we
end every show by saying John McCain was

1531
01:59:09,359 --> 01:59:12,159
not a loser. He's not a
loser. Here was a way hero.

1532
01:59:12,319 --> 01:59:14,680
You don't make fun of people like
that, you look up to them.

1533
01:59:15,159 --> 01:59:18,800
So this is mac for the entire
gang. What a gang tonight as saying

1534
01:59:19,279 --> 01:59:21,600
do you want to clap us off? Lewis is? How are you doing

1535
01:59:24,439 --> 01:59:30,680
talk our wake up and flapping.
We'll put that we will last sweepen up.

1536
01:59:30,199 --> 01:59:33,359
Thanks everyone for joining us and until
you hear us next time. This

1537
01:59:33,479 --> 01:59:39,319
is MAC for the entire gang saying
be safe, be happy, and bye bye