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There are one thousand UFO sightings reported around the world every month. Ninety percent
of these sightings can be explained, but ten percent cannot. Officially and unofficially,
the US military has been investigating the UFOs since nineteen forty seven. They're
top secret goal is to mind out what's behind these unexplained sightings. The Pentagon
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and now here's mac maloney. Well, good evening, everyone, and welcome
to mac Maloney's Military Staw Show here in the distant thunder radio nowhere. This
is mac maloney. By what a show we have for you tonight. But
first let me introduce you to the members of the posse. Girls, get
ready, sit yourselves down, get your fan, get your miss to,
get your big box of wipes, you your big box of Kleenex, and
your big box of wife, your squeegee, and you lou because he's here,
the very famous Juan One. Monny, how you doing? Hi Mac?
Hi? Everyone? Bestly the girls, how are you tonight? One
one across the puddle in England? Glad to be here, glad to be
anywhere? Actually, okay, all right, when's the last time he had
fish and chips today? Yes? Yes, okay, I think it was
close to node. No, okay, that's good. It's good breakfast food.
Okay, let me put my shades on and everything will make a little
bit more sense, all right. So anyway, we are waiting on a
national correspond in switch Plad Steve One, but our security chief Willie Club not
here tonight at the Celtics game. At the Celtics game, Celtics are like
something like twenty nine and three and they're playing the San Antonio Spurs and they
are three and twenty nine or something like that. Should be a good game.
Also, no Coco out this save in the world, but up there
and Upstating almost gave it away up there in Sideways New York favorite good witch,
Raven, Raven, how are you tonight, Rave? Finn? Hi,
my friends, thank you so much for having me. I'm doing great.
Okay. You've got snow. You got this big snowstorm that everyone in
the northeast got right, sure did. And and you have a you have
your hat on, of course I haven't had a hat on. My ears
get very cold. I also have a blanket on, and I have like
three layers of shirts on. Really yeah, okay, all right, some
guys signed that sexually also with us in the studio with is your vote mechanic
out right now? Though? Well? Hey Mac, are you doing?
Hello? Everyone? I haven't had fishing chips in a while, so I
haven't either. But now I want I'm gonna get to the park, lind.
I want it so bad, Parkland shore of the Galley one of the
too. So anyway, well, we do have an interesting show for you
tonight. I hope Raven has report in a little while on the Puria State
Hospital. Is at it that is crackt? Wow? Huh must be a
swinging place? Is it still open? Yes? Okay, but no,
yes, just what you need in a mental hospital. And then coming up
after a short break, we're going to have a good friend, Doctor Bob
is going to be on telling us what he's been up to lately in the
Chicago very cool place. And Switch has a report that we're looking forward to
as well. So let me just start off the show by a couple of
things, okay, you don't mind. First of all, we started this
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with us. Just a double check, and off we go. Okay,
let's see next week we're going to be doing a special show on a book
that I have coming out with our buddy Mike. Is a poola called what
is it? Oh, how to Dump a Body at Sea and Not get
caught? The Al Ferrari Story. Okay, how did how the dump a
body at Sea and not get cott? Yes, that's the name of it,
folks. And we're going to have a book party this time next week
with lots of uh guests stopping in. I guess you could say so on
that'll be next week and the book will be on Seal. Is on Seal
on Amazon as of when you're hearing this, he'll be on Seal. It
had a big pre sale as it turns out, which is always good,
but officially goes on Seal by the time you hear it the January eighteenth,
Ashley and so how to dump a body at sea and not get cot That
won't be the last time you hear about it, I'm sure. Uh So.
Anyway, let's see people have been writing in well of people writing and
just so happy that Rave in his back. I've sent you those emails and
she's blushing, but they're so nice. I really appreciate it. People missed
you. Let's see, and we people have been writing over the past couple
weeks about the music that is on at the end of the show. So
what happens is sometimes we don't come up to the exact time that we are
allotted to put the show on, so that's one hour and no it's one
hundred and fifteen minutes. Sometimes when we get short of that, we add
music at the end. People want to know, well, the music's by
The music is by sky Club, which is a band that I'm pot of.
I guess you could say also with myke poolin Omni Castanell, who's Paul
McCartney sax player, and also Elvis Costello's saxplayer, Chris Billius from Bristol recruiting
studios in Boston, very famous play. I said, that's Sky Club that
you hear. I'm not sure exactly what titles, what songs they play,
but thanks to reading in glad you liked the music. We really appreciate the
emails. Okay, all that's out of the right. Now here's a couple
of weird things I just saw on the news. So this James Webb telescope
which they launched, you know, last year or so. It was like
took years for the launch and they funny put it into space. You know.
Let me break in here just to say, playing one one tonight is
doctor Bob Gross. Let's let's bring one right now? Please? Okay,
let's put it. You know, well, dog, you're gonna get nominated
Front of a Watch the best were one one there is besides the real one
one. That's that's what they say. Yeah, is it really? Oh?
I was just trying to be nice. I shouldn't have said, okay,
so he's joining us tonight too as well. And I just wanted to
bring you in on this because I read this the other day and I would
say, wow, what is going on here we live? You know,
this web telescope is just this unbelievably fantastic space telescope telescope. They can do
so many things. It can see far into the universe and now they have
to rethink, you know, how old the universe is. But it can
also look at these exoplanets, which are planets that like most like Earth,
you know, and it can look on these into these planets and they can
they can detect what kind of chemicals are in the atmosphere, all right,
and if they detect carbon dioxide a carbon monoxide, then that's going to be
a big, big clue that might be some kind of a civilization on that
planet, because no matter where you are, it seems like you need those
two things to survive. Else they need oxygen. That's another thing. There
has to be a certain amount of oxygen in the atmosphere for fire. I
mean, no matter where you are, you're going to need some kind of
fire, combustion, so on and so forth. So it can do all
these kind of different things. So what it did too is it helped confirm
that out in way, out in space, actually nine billion light years some
Earth, they've discovered this thing that they've called a megastructure. Have you heard
about this, doctor bomb? This is the past. Two yes, And
this thing is so enormous. Let me, I had to write down the
numbers, okay, So like, for instance, all right, the speed
of light is one hundred and eighty six miles one hundred and eighty six thousand
miles a second. Okay, one hundred and eighty six miles, one hundred
and eighty six thousand miles per second. A light year is six trillion miles,
okay, six trillion miles. This thing, which is actually a ring,
it's actually a ring, is one point three billion light years long,
okay, one point three billion light years long. This thing, it's a
string of galaxies that are in a ring almost like a perfect circle. And
the fact, one of the fact, one of the things is what's blowing
their minds is that this thing is too big to exist because there was something
principles, you know, and out of space, which is more or less
everything is homogeneous. As the kids say, Okay, it's like the ocean.
If you're in the middle of the ocean, when you look around you
all there is is water. Okay. You know there might be you know,
deeper water somewhere that might be shallow water, wall of water, but
it's mostly all water. You couldn't suddenly have you know, water in an
ocean that goes up to twenty miles high. You know, it just wouldn't.
It doesn't work like that. That's what they thought space was like.
And they just they have no idea how all these you know, and why
would they go in a ring? Which is kind of weird, and you
know, I mean it's speculating, but there has been you don't talk before
that. There are just unbelievably advanced civilizations out there that could literally harness galaxies
for power. Think about that, Okay, I mean, this isn't a
new thing. But now they find this thing, and they actually found another
one. There's another one about the same side, which they call the ok
and just the way that galaxies in the universe have come together and how they're
formed and stuff. I mean, you know that's what people get doctor it's
about. But the thing is is this thing and this thing called the ox
should not exist, and they just go against every principle that we've had about
out of space since you know, like Einstein. So the thing is with
technology is that you know, this shames web telscope. It's going to disco
some cool things, but it's going to just blow a lot of things out
of the water, right, doctor Bob, like a lot of ye old
times says. And there's one after it that's going to the NASA is going
to and launch even do more of a job. But there's stuff that's happened
right now they never thought they find, right yep. Yeah, absolutely why
I disagree with some of the scientists that are out there, even like Ivy
Lobe, Yeah, say that they cannot you know, the whole concept of
alternate physics. I think you're going to have to put those in the play
because we only know about five percent of what's actually out there in the universe.
Right. And see that's the thing is that so you have some kind
of I mean, you know, Columbus disguised America. There were still people
back in Europe one hundred years later denying that it happened because it's the old
school is so hot to get rid of the belief system. You know,
yes, but this is but things like the James Would telescope makes you do
that. It's very hard. You know, there's a lot of these intracted
guys at colleges. They don't want to lose their job. They don't want
to lose the tendent come out and you know, talk about something crazy.
But there's this one point three billion light year of megastructure out there that has
no explanation. It should not exist. And in fact, like some of
the you know, the galaxies are moving faster and faster away from each other,
right then they're supposed to be. They're supposed to Yes, we never
we may never find extraterrestrial life because they'd never get here. Yeah, to
see that's that's the distance between is just so crazy that there's no way you're
going to you're going to reach it with our rocket ship. You have to
find a way. Not that's going near the speed of light. You have
to go near the speed of light to get here and to get to the
next If you went to the speed of light from Earth to the next hour,
it's twenty nine thousand years. So you know, you have to come
up with something that's just a better way of transportation. So as I was
the other, the other thing that we talked about, you know what,
why don't we take a quick break down because they see Switchy has joined us,
his chauffeur has finally delivered him. So why don't we take a click
right now and we'll bring switch in and we'll be back. Y'are listening to
Macloney's Ultra style show here on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. Please stay tune.
Hey Mac Maloney fans, this is Pistol Pete and I'm sitting here with
the one and only Mac Maloney. Hi Mac, hi pee. Now,
Mac, you've got a new book out called How to Dump a Body at
Sea and Not Get Caught that you wrote with our pal, famous crime novelist
Mark Zappula. How did this whole thing come about? Well, Mack and
I have this mutual friend that we would go out having bas with every once
in a while, and he had the same twenty stories that he would tell
us kind of over and over again, and at some point I said,
you know, we should write these down, and we did and it turned
into a book. It's such a crazy title. How'd you come up with
it? Well, kind of the same thing. We're in talking to this
friend of ours one night and he just said, you know how to get
rid of a body at sea? And I get caught, And of course
we didn't know, and so he told us. And the secret is in
the book. But I can say that it involves a lot of chaninling fence
and some crabs. Al Mac. You gave me an advanced copy of the
book, and like I said before, it's one of the funniest things I've
ever read. It reminded me of The Sopranos if the Sopranos had a laugh
track. Thanks Peter. But it also gives you instructions on how to do
some pretty shady stuff, stuff not exactly legal. Well, yeah, the
book is about the true life adventures of a druvenoulet Delinklent growing up in Boston
in the late nineteen eighties, so you get a lot of the inside stuff,
like the best way to steal a ca the best way to burn a
caa, how to make fake IDs, things like that. But in one
chapter you actually tell people how to turn an old, broken down Toyota into
a brand new rolls Royce in five easy steps. And it actually works.
Yeah. I know it's sounds crazy. I didn't believe until I saw the
proof, but yes, it actually works. Now. One last question.
There's a lot of laughs in the book, but also a lot of pretty
crazy stuff, legal and illegal. Is it really all true? It's really
all true, but on the advice of publisher, they've asked us not to
say things beyond that for legal reason. But yes it is altrued. Well
thanks Mac. That's how to dump a body at sea and not get caught,
The Al Ferrari story by Mac and crime writer Mark Zappula. Get it
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Welcome back, everyone, to back Maloney's little track saw show here on the
distance under Radio Networks is Mac Maloney. Wow, what a show we have
for you tonight. But let me reintroduce the members of the policy. Sorry
girls, were just teasing you at the beginning. No one one tonight.
No one one tonight still missed of moving from one castle to another over there
in England the UK, but he will be with us next week. No
cocoa save in the world. But a national correspondent, Switchblade, Steve Ward,
has joined us. And you know what, let's give switch a roundable
clause and I'll tell you why. The reason is is that Club isn't here
tonight, and I think that Switchy deserves a week off, so good for
you, switch Okay, hey, listen, I could I could take Club
out and just kick his ass. A he's fool man, I am.
I am a pacifist ahead and I would probably would not kick his ass,
even though Club probably deserves this. Oh, I guess there's a faint words
if you lived in West Virginia, right, okay, all right, we'll
let him know I said that. Okay, well, don't worry. He'll
listen to the show. He'll the show. I don't know if you know
this, but this is this is recorded, so he'll yeah. Yeah,
yeah, people don't listen. He doesn't listen to the show. Oh yes,
he goes out, and Club goes out and hangs out in front of
the drug store every day. Yeah, that's what he is. Looking for
a job. I think looking for a drink. Looking for a drink makes
more sense also with us, is UFO kidding? Out run the album How
you doing I'm doing great, Mac, you know, just glad to go
along for the ride here, you know, yes, okay. And also
with us is a good friend doctor Bob out there in Chicago. He did
a great job imitating the Ray famous one one in the first segment, How
are you doing tonight, doctor Bob? How you doing good? Hello Daniel,
Everyone's good to see you again. Now you've been real cold out there,
right, real cold out? Yeah, like twenty one degrees below zero?
Man, below zero? Holy seventeen nineteen twenty hellow zero? Did the
lakes freeze? Do they freeze the lakes sometimes? Do they? Really?
Yeah? Huh wow? I do. But you know I've been kicking on
the lakes too. Oh yeah. People say, you know what, I'm
in West by God, Virginia. I'm south of the Mason Dixon line.
I moved down from Michigan. Yes, I expect a nice warm southern breezes.
No freaking eleven degrees really, wow, we have not been. We
have not been that cold. I've been knowing, but we haven't been.
And that's I'm telling you. It's it's out just in the past ten years.
Not We're not going to get into this. But the climate in the
northeast New England has changed almost radically. Okay, we live in the Boston
area. It has not. Has it gone below freezing yet? Yeah,
but not by much, not by I mean nothing, nothing like this.
I mean it probably it has gone down to thirty In December there were four
days there was seventy degrees. We've we had our first snow in two years
on Tuesday, okay, and then and then this massive flooding. I don't
know if you know. Hampton Beach in New Hampshire is kind of a you
know, known spot. It's completely underwater, it's completely blocked off. People
can't get in and out. It's crazy, it's great and this stuff never
happened before and now it is. But hey, you don't have to shovel
it. So sorry guys. So anyway, did I introduce you Raven?
You did it? But I think people know in a minute, stop I'm
mixing up off here with on here. It's okay, Hi, no,
no, we just let's let's stop the tape. Stop the tape. And
here also with us is our favorite good witch up here in sideways in the
Raven is with us. Raven how are you? Hello, my friends?
Thank you so much for having me. Its great. Just for the people
wondering she has a hat on there's a hat tonight. Okay, is that
a beanie? The kids call that a beanie. It's a beanie beanie.
And I will give you a signed copy of one of my kitchen napkins for
anyone that guesses what is written on my beanie high quality prize. Okay,
let's see an autograph napkin from Raven? Now? Can we can we see
that? Just? It says no? Not that says that? Okay,
I'm sorry. Okay, Feral Woman. No does it? What's it say?
Sure? Does? It says feral Woman? Oh really, really wow?
I have the same beanie you really wow? T M I doctor Block.
It's apparently a thing that Was that a gift? Do you have one?
Steve? I have one, it says mock Man on it. But
it's somewhere in the basement. It would take me an hour and a half
to find it. Okay, good Feral moth Man. So so was that
a gift for Raven? I did did someone give that to you? Or
did you buy that on your I bought this for myself a few years ago,
I was like a little like gift for myself because I had a bad
day, so I needed a little treat. So is the idea to go
with that? Had and then you know, like pick up guys and stuff
like that. Not that you would, but you know, I is that
what happens? Yeah, guys don't want me. I'm far I'm far too,
I'm too far gone. You know, I'm lucky that I got the
guy that I have bags of email. But you know, say you're wrong.
But okay, mister raven lucky guy, let's get back to this other
leggy I switch, now switch. You're talking off here about breakfasts in general,
so can we get into you were about to say that a lot of
chicks want pictures of me as well, right yeah, sure, yeah,
okay, yes, Actually we're just more interested in what you had for breakfast
today that a lot of people will say. Yes, okay, well I
went to tutors tutors again to do something a little different. Usually I get
when I go to tutors, Yes, I'm I will wait a while and
I get really hungry. Okay, So oftentimes I will order eggs over easy
bacon and a biscuity, and I confess I will dip my biscuit into the
yolk, you know. And I maybe it's discussing to some people. I
don't know, but I take okay. But this morning I thought, you
know, I needed something a little different, so I asked for UH scrambled
and that's what was the the what do they call that? The low car
breakfast? Okay? Okay? Three eggs, yes, and I got sausage,
two sausage patties and along with UH, a biscuit. And listen again,
these biscuits are huge. I mean, they could actually use these in
warfare. We could destroy our enemies in one fell swoop if they just loaded
these up and shot them all his high velocity Truder's biscuits. I'm telling you.
Okay, I was there one day and one of the skits accidentally fell
off the table and a guy had to have knee surgery. Really yeah.
Now, I also had some hot black coffee. And the cool thing is
that, you know, I hate to admit this, but I have not
made my own breakfast for a long time. Really, go to tutors,
bring a stack, sometimes a stack of books with one of these pencils,
you know, the mechanical pencil pencils, make notes in the in the uh,
these really cool books and a lot of this stuff ends up in mac
Maloney's Military ex five. Really, this is the fringe report. This.
I'm going to get a bill at tax time. Yes, he's going to
try to deduct these some just axes. Okay, we understand it's a long
road for that for your ten ninety one right. Let me, but I
want to say this about is that a cat? Get that? Oh you
saw the cat? Well, you're in soft focus there, Get that thing?
Get that? You get that freaking talking about Pharaoh. Yeah, he's
really enjoying that. But she is just mac. If you were to meet
Rosie, your heart would melt. Listen. I ever heard that before Steve.
I tried to get him to walk across the street Anderson. I can't
remember the name of it, but it was like snow Queen or whatever.
And finally the the the this evil woman for his heart melted because whatever I
can't remember. What is he talking about? Is he talking about his cat?
You would love Rosie? Do you want to hear my story? Raven
loves Rosie and she hasn't even Metter yet. Here's why I don't like cats.
Okay, can I can I give you the story? I said,
I've got I don't know. Listen, I bet I was scared by a
cat. Okay, and really, one night when I went to college in
Boston, Film I moved into an apartment near the university and someone gave me
a kitten. Okay, these friends of mine, this couple, gave me
a kitten, and I said, you know, I don't like cats.
Why would you do this? Okay, So the kittens run around for two
weeks. He sneak up on me, scratched my face and stuff and run
away and it was just annoying. Okay. So after two weeks I bring
him back to this couple and I said, I'm really sorry, but you
know it's I'm away. You know I'm not home a lot. So I
give them the cat. Okay. A year goes by, I don't see
the cat. I'm in a New Year's Eve party. One of the things
I remember is that they rolled the joint with the paper that came in the
Cheech and Chong album. Yeah, right, so it'd be like a yad
long and take it from me. That was the least of what was going
on at that place, right, So I don't know. Let's say I'm
on my own little mind trip. Let's say and we have New Year's Eve
and we celebrate. Now it's about two wanting and I'm going back to crash
at my friend's house, the people who gave me the cat, and I'm
with whom my buddies. We're just going to crash there and then you know,
leave in the morning. I have the key, I go up the
stairs. It's doc. I open the door and the door opens and there's
the cat and he's sitting in a shaft of light coming in through the window.
Right. It was unbelievable. And I'm like in another world. As
the kids say, okay, and I just stand and I look at him.
He looks at me. He walks over to me and throws up on
my shoe. Right, okay, point take it. Yeah exactly. I'm
in the state of affairs that that was like really really really odd to happen.
Right now, I'm looking at it, and my friend in backman comes
in and goes, hey, happy New Year. It's the year of the
cat. You know. Since then that that beautiful little fur ball and said
I love you Oh, is that how they do it? Yeah, they
take They were the latest he would have been. I lived. I live
across the street from mac. I've tried to get him to come across a
ten foot right away to come in and meet my cats. Make your cat.
Well you've seen them in the passing. If you actually saw them for
a minute and get to they're the sweetest thing. Cats are so freaking cute
and they are the nicest cat. Just talk away. I'm cutting this out,
Hey, doctor Bob, you don't have a cat? Told you something?
No, that was I was in Stone, So do not cut that
out, doctor Bob. Do you have cats? You hate? Cats?
You hate? Don't have any pass right now. A couple of cock roaches
I got a little Have you given them names? Yeah? They can be
and they're tasty too. There's a lot of protein. You put them in
chocolate. They're supposed to be very crunchy. Oh my god. A hotel
I went to in Vegas sold those. They had chocolate covered cockroaches and chocolate
covered scorpions. O's Oh god, it was well, it was probably right,
would be evil enough to do that company. When I lived in and
worked in Dallas, Texas, We used to have really large cockroaches, yes,
yes, in the office where I was, and we used to diaper
them with like napkins and paper to put them back out. Is back years
ago. I was in Central America in Belize, which used to be British
on Duras go ahead, change and I was a buddy of mine was actually
his uncle was the Roman Catholic bishop in Belief. Yes, and we stayed
at the presbytery with a priest. Were well at night. There were these
cockroaches and been run up and down the whole way. Cats would play with
them. I mean these things were half the same. Yes, yes,
yes, if you've been down the southern Florida you will see very much information
cockroach. I remember being in the commode and one of these giant suckers had
to stop by, and I looked at him. We made eye contact and
I thought, no, this is not good. And he probably thought the
same thing. So don't worry switch. I'm sure he did in Florida.
In Florida, don't they call him palmetto bugs or something something. I walked
into the big cockroach huge. Oh everywhere in the South, like we went
to outer banks and my friends have them down there, and they're just like
outing about chilling. Right. They don't do anything the size of squirrels.
But I mean, I certainly don't want them in my home, but I'm
not moving down south anytimes. No a squirrel, but you can tell they're
not a squirrel because they don't have that bushy tail. That's true. You
know. I've been down to southern Pots of Flower because that's where Lowes's family
is now located, and it's like Jurassic Park down there. We were.
I mean, first of all, there's all these like little gecko lizards running
around and stuff. And then they get these like really weird birds. You
go into the intra coastal and you see those manatees or do you ever see
a manatee. It's like a it's like a cow underwater. It's it's like
this huge and and they have a lot of lizards down there. Okay,
and these lizards are what do you call the iguana lizards. They're economous,
so like small allegator. They're just wild too, and they're wild. And
also I just read the other day Florida has sixteen million alligators. Now,
the thing about these iguanas is that they'll climb up into like a palm tree
at night, okay, when it's warm, and then because they're cold blooded,
they kind of freeze and they don't and they're not active until the sun
comes hits them. They fall out of the trees, right, They just
like fall out of the tree. It's like getting hit with a cement block,
and it's it's a freaking monster out there. That place is. You
know, I know a lot of people down there who are you know,
are friends of mine. But how you live in Florida? And then there's
Florida Man, right, Florida Man. Every every day there's a headline Florida
man eats alligator, and you know, Florida man, you know, drives,
you know, do something crazy. Are you at the occasional Florida woman
absurd story that follows? Right? Yeah? Yeah, no not really,
but the alligators is the thing that, you know, I'd be most concerned.
I've stayed down on oh what's the island down off the very very end
Santa Belt, and a guy that I knew had houses on Santa Bell.
He said, go down and stay for Christmas, stay for a week,
whatever. And we drove down and I'm sitting on this uh really kind of
rickety dock in the backyard, and there was like a waterway and my feet
are dangling, and you know, we're sitting there watching it. And then
I picked my legs up and we're getting ready to leave it and an alligator
swims by and my feet were hanging four inches above the water where he just
swam by, and he well, I'm thinking, you know, he could
have just if he was a few seconds earlier, he could have taken a
grab at a leg and then they'd be no one to pick up the tablet
that stop a galling and there you go. Anyway, So I just I
just want to go back to Switch for one moment minute, because he sends
me these photos occasionally when he's eating his breakfast knowing that I mean, you
know, like a half a cucumber for lunch and an unsalted salt team And
the other day, Mac, I have to tell you, I had this
gorgeous looking breakfast and I thought, no, not going to send this to
Mac. He might actually undergo his own demise. Wow, he can't have
this, But yeah, thank you Switching for thinking of me. But he
listen, Mac, I think if you offer do you really Yeah, well,
oh yeah, that might not be a good thing. He sent me
a picture of his breakfast, and you know, the game is, okay,
I can guess the other five pieces of bacon, you know, three
sausages and so on. And I said, what's that all on top of
a pancake? And it wasn't it's this biscuit. This is how he's talk
about these biscuits. They're like they could be mistaken for pancakes. I had
a mac, I had a measured these biscuits. I only have one at
a time. They are one third the size of Nebraska. Okay, anyway,
so are they bigger than like a waffle house waffle or about the same
size. Well, listen, Raven, there is that there aren't too many
waffle houses close by. I have to actually drive forty minutes because of the
closest waffle house in West by God, Virginia, which is in the Huntington.
Oh my god, they have this eleven dollars breakfast that includes a waffle,
It includes eggs, it includes I can't tell you how many things it
includes. And it was just like, even I, who's a glutton,
can't eat the whole damn thing, and I wish Point Pleasant had a really
yeah, but tudis is God's gift to human beings. Tutors would be pissed
though, Yeah it really is. And I'm not religious, but I would
agree with that one. Do you have to do? You have to tip
there? Switchy, switch to tip at the waffle house and Christmas, I
think was a Christmas Day when everything here in Point Pleasant is closed down.
I drove, I drove there's forty minutes to get to a waffle house because
they were the only thing open on the planet. Merry Christmas. Yeah,
huh wow uh Now I'm hugy. Now I want waffles. I want freaking
biscuits, sauzes. Well, anyway, so listen, Raven, you have
a report for us tonight, right, I sure do. Okay, We're
ready. We're gonna put your bumper in right here, and now it's time
for reaving. Go ahead. What do you have? I have a little
story on Peoria State Hospital and this is in Bartonville, Illinois. So Peoria
State Hospital opened in nineteen oh two and was ominously I'm sorry, I can't
say that word, ominously named the Illinois Asylum for the Incurable Insane It later
did become known as Peoria State Hospital, but that was like the very very
first title for it. The grounds were set up in what was referred to
as a cottage system by administrator doctor George A. Zeller, meaning there were
multiple buildings on the property, including patient and caretaker housing, a store,
a bakery, a power station, a farm area, and four cemeteries.
Of the original sixty three buildings on the property, only thirteen remained today.
The first building on the site was completed in eighteen ninety seven and was described
as a festamal of a foidial feudial feudial feudal feudal cut all this out,
fascimal. I can't say this word fast. A meal of a feudal castle,
that's what it is. So are we all on the same page.
Good? But it was never inhabited and was eventually torn down, so the
building looks like a castle, just so you know. It is speculated that
the integrity of the structure was compromised due to underground mind shafts, so this
is where the cottage system came into play. However, another theory was presented
in a nineteen twenty seven history of the Peoria State Hospital archive that states doctor
Zeller found that building to be quote wholly out of harmony with modern ideas for
the care of the insane end quote. So I want to talk about doctor
Zeller. When I think of an insane asylum, my mind immediately goes to
the horrible mistreatment of the mentally ill throughout history, experimental and risky procedures,
under medicated or over medicated, or on the opposite spectrum, absolute neglect.
But doctor Zeller was different. He was considered a pioneer in mental health and
advocated for dignified human care, something that we often don't even see today.
So doctor Zeller removed the restraints and the window bars to make the patients feel
more at ease, and it was even reported that he repurposed the window bars
and made a zoo for the patients and the families to enjoy while visiting.
So this guy was like way ahead of his time. By the late nineteen
twenties, the resident population grew to thirteen thousand people. Due to the high
patient load, it was often a challenge to care for the unclaimed bodies,
so sadly, many patients died under the hospital's care that had no family to
claim them. Doctor Zeller made the decision to form a burial corp. This
was made up of hospital staff and patients and this burial sorry. This group
buried the unclaimed bodies on the hospital grounds to ensure every patient had a final
resting place. In total, approximately four thousand unclaimed patients were buried on the
property. This brings us to the star of the show. I have a
ghost called Old Book. He was also sometimes referred to as a Bookbinder,
so first initial A and then last named Bookbinder and his Elm tree. So
Old Book was a well liked patient at the hospital that was assigned to the
burial crew. I wasn't able to determine what he was there for or where
his name came from, but he, I'm assuming was there for quite some
time. It is said that Old Book wept at every interment, moaning under
a nearby elm tree. Because Old Book was so well liked, his own
funeral was very well attended. It said that four hundred people came to pay
their respects. So the story goes the Old Book was seen weeping and moaning
at his favorite graveyard, Elm during his own funeral. However, when his
coffin was opened by the attendants who were like, you know what is happening?
The whaling stopped and Old Book was laying inside the coffin weird right yes.
Wow. Soon after Old Book was buried, the graveyard elm began to
wither. It is said that it decayed so much that near its end it
actually resembled human skeleton. A crew was assembled to remove the dead tree,
but upon the first swing of the axe allowed whale cried out from it.
The crew tried to remove it quite a few times. They even attempted to
light it on fire at one point, but the screams and whales that emitted
from the elm were so severe that they were always scared away. Years later,
Old Books tree was struck by lightning and it fell over, and that
was when it was finally removed. In nineteen seventy three, the hospital closed
its doors for good. Since its closure, many buildings have either been demolished
or converted into businesses. So in twenty thirteen, the Peoria State Hospital Museum
was established. They were able to acquire three buildings on the property and they
host historical and paranormal tours, vendor bazaars, and halloween attractions. Today,
visitors regularly report strange happenings, including hearing knocking, banging and whispers, seeing
full blown apparitions, and witnessing radios turning on by themselves and the channels changed
to religious or country stations and the volume increases. That tells you something.
Okay. So the cemetery still remains as well. And as for Old Book,
he this is really sad. He went in decades without a proper grave
marker. And in twenty ten a former hospital employee erected a memorial to honor
their former patient. So if you're in the Bartonville area, you know,
check out the museum. Let me know what you think, or if you
experience anything, or if you see Old Book hanging out anywhere. Wow,
and that is the Peoria State Hospital. Wow. Wow. And it's a
tourist attraction. That's funny. Let's get raven al. We're scaring the show.
So you know, they just found there's some state prison, I think
in Missus Zippy. They just found like a thousand bodies buried you in the
backyard. You know, because a lot of people who wound up in those
places, especially years ago, they're kind of abandoned by their families. I
mean, that's that's just it. And when you die, they they bury
you. That's what like hit me so hard about this one was because like
doctors, Elher seemed like he really cared and he didn't want them to just
end up, you know, down a body shoot somewhere right, yeah,
in a pile, you know, like he did bury them. There's a
place, there's a place near us in Danvers, Massachusetts. That is was
a state hospital up on a on a very high hill. It's kind of
funny, about halfway from Boston to New Hampshire, which is about a forty
mile ride, about halfway twenty miles outside of town. Up in this hill
was this state hospital, damned state hospital. And growing up, as you
know, as a kid, all I can remember my mother saying, you're
gonna, you know, bring me the Davis, but you know, not
me my brothers. So way, it was a creepy, creepy looking place.
It looked like this old you know, just jails. Anyway, so
they closed it, finally closed it, and then they throw down some of
it, left some of it up, and they built condos up there.
And the condos are so haunted. They've been on all these ghost work shows
and stuff. One one used to work up there putting in computers. He
says, it's a creepy place. I guess the original buildings are really really
very creepy, and the new buildings, you know, they catch on fire
and stuff like that. But when you go in, when you buy a
place, the management gives you a pillow that has embroidered on a boo you
know. Haha. You probably know it's probably a way of signing some kind
of release form. But yeah, just sight. And so they found when
they went up there to you know, build the condos, they found you
know, several dozen bodies you know, just you know, kind of buried
and held the skelter out there, you know. So Wow, I liked
it. I don't know, like I don't like it, you know,
but I mean it's interesting. I said, like, historically the mentally ill
were treated not good at all, and this was like the opposite. Yeah.
Sure, I did a field investigation in Indiana in a one of those
type of hospitals. Yeah, and I had to sign I did have to
sign a release before I could do the investigation with a team of scientists.
Wow. Yeah, And it was this really a strange place and they had
a I was doing experiments with something called the extended bulb technique on a thirty
five millimeter camera where the bulb held the shutter open, and I got When
I got back and had the film analyzed, they were all kinds of strange,
like these these glowing eyes down the these hallways. Well, see a
prison cell in the second floor, And at four o'clock in the morning,
I went up and I took, you know, experiment of taking that type
of photograph. When I got back, there was this thing in the cell.
When I had to develop that, it looked like a big soccer ball
size candy black cotton candy ball. Wow. And I had to analyze by
four specialists and they said, yeah, there's nothing wrong with the camera,
nothing wrong with the film, but this that, whatever that was, it
looked like it was manifesting itself in that cell. Remember the story I just
told about the cat who threw up on my show. Yes, that night
I saw a fifty pound above of cotton candy. As it turned Yeah,
Saturday evening it was feral too. I think I'm here. So wow.
So we've talked about this before. Is that you know it seems like places
where people meet an uncomfortable end. Battlefields, mental institutions, prisons, okay,
seem more attractive to ghosts. Yeah, what Switches said, So I
mean is that is that is that kind of like ground zero for a lot
of ghosts, you know, I mean that whole idea if you if you
leave this world in a violent manner, you don't quite make it over to
the next step. You're kind of stuck here, you know, who knows
what, right, But it does seem like go ahead, Raven. I
don't know if that's like the rule, you know, because I think that
anyone whatever whatever, goes on afterwards, you know, I think that there's
like a to a certain degree, maybe a choice where you can stay if
you want, because I know when I go, I am haunting the Okay,
there's no way I'm not going to haunt him. If he thinks that
he's gonna find another wife. Wow, Okay, we're going to hang out.
Okay. But yeah, I don't I don't shut into the rule or
whatever it is, but I mean, I'm not I don't know if you
guys know this. I'm not a ghost, so I can't tell. But
it does seem like there's a pattern I will say of uh people that meet
are very violent or disturbing and that hangout and it's like they like, uh
like in like this. I don't want to spoil this, but in the
sixth sense, when you know, like he doesn't know he's dead. I
guess some movie came out in the nineties. It's like, if you haven't
seen it, that's net. But it could be that too. Yeah,
yep, I mean you you we've once agin We've talked about this before too.
It's like ghosts exists, well, if only one ghost story is true
throughout all of history, all the people have seen ghosts having come only you
only need one of them to be true for ghosts to be you know true.
You know, same thing with UFOs. My question is, is so
we hear of ghosts in mental institutions, prisons, things like that. But
is that just because we're looking for them there? You know what I mean?
Maybe they're just everywhere we just happened to. Oh yeah, there's gonna
be ghosts at a closed down mental institution, Yes, there, But you
know, maybe they're in everybody's house maybe, you know what I mean,
It depends on what went on there. But I've done several field investigations with
teams of scientists and you know, we talked a little bit about this before,
and we also took equipment in there when we did the investigations. I
probably did a half a dozen, you know, eight investigations. Well,
yes, something happened at each place investigating. Yeah, I saw evidence of
things I walked up to. I have no idea what they were. Is
there a common thread or is it different in every place? Uh? I
think the common thread is that the people who are investigating are ready for that
kind of experience. Yeah, yes, well, yeah it does. I
mean if you're in that business. Yeah. Wow, that's that's cool about
Bob. So thank you, Raven. We've already clapped for you. Let's
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have for you tonight. Let me introduce you almost a skeleton gang tonight.
Let me start in the studio here, uh UFO mechanic Alvin now though now
hey Mac, Hello everyone, No one one tonight girl. Sorry, he's
uh still in the process of moving castles. All upset because the Duchess of
York, Kate Middleton in the hospital today. Rushed to the hospital. I
hope it's nothing serious because frankly, she's the best looking one in that family
for like generations. Right, you're gonna change, you know, you have
to change the gene pool there, and she's at the forefront. I hope
she's okay. He'll be with us next week. No cocoa. Tonight's save
in the world, but our national correspondence switchway Steve Ward and a particularly jolly
mood because club is in here tonight switching. Well, I won't come in
on that. But listen, who needs one one? I mean wow,
I mean I mean really wow. I provoked attack on love. You'll be
back next week or the week after, No big deal. Huh Okay,
Switches, that's the one switch. Switch. All you need to do is
get some twinkies and some donuts off and you just hold them up and you
can take care of uh. You know club real well, you're filling these
shoes. No, but some reason switch is attacking one one. I don't
get it. In the uh the drama of the show. Listen you we
you know one one I loved one one like a sister. Yeah, we
don't need cobra wow which Raven? Yesmatic, But listen, Steve's on a
roll tonight. We're doing Okay, where are the we are the skeleton crew?
Sell games? I'm giving Yeah, Okay, there's the tattoo? Everyone
boom god? So anyway, one for this other thing. I was going
to mention, I've introduced everyone, right, No, no, no,
Raven? Why do I keep forgetting you? Raven? Why speak? It's
a Freudian thing? Maybe the thank you? Can I say something? Mad?
Go ahead? A lady I know named Brandy who lives Brandy way up
in the Great White North. Okay, really happy that Raven is back?
Really well? Yeah yeah, we get emails all the time. Believe me.
Her legion of fans is glad that she's back. Let me ask you
something that switchy does Brandy? Is it with an eye at the end or
why it's an I? Okay? Interested? Does she does she chop it
off with a hot does she? What does she put up that I wouldn't
know? Really? She is a huge fan of this show. That is
no ship okay, all right, all right, when you say great white
not if you're talking about Canada, our friends of Canada. Well, it's
it's like almost it might be northern Wisconsin, but really the same thing.
Right, be specific, because this young lady is very uh private, and
I don't know if she says private, is Agent X's private? Well,
okay, all right, I'd use another word, absolutely true. She is
a huge fan of you. A lot of people are fans of Raven.
I mean, I've been in the show for eight years. I get like
two, you know, fan letters in the eight years. She gets,
uh, several weeks. Anyway, the Rose among the Thorns, Doctor Bob,
Doctor Bob was with us tonight. Doctor Bob grows down there very chilly
Chicago, as it turns out, still a toddling town. Correct, it's
titling. Yes, it's also shaking, but it's titling. Okay, all
right? Can they say briefly? West by God, Virginia this morning eleven
freaking degrees. I was looking for the was nice warm. No, you're
in the north, you know, you just happen to be. You're up
here with us, man, You're got to go below the Carolinas to hear
that, you know, to feel that warm southern breeze, that ye didn't
go far enough? Right, Yeah, you have to keep going. When
I woke up, it was four here, So I mean, I guess
at least you got double digits. They go switchy. Other people are suffering,
not just you, doctor Bob. First of all, where's that marijuana
prescription you were going to send us? Is that dead dead un arrival?
No, but I'm uh, it's taken a while for me to make sure
everything's okay to send you. Okay, okay, quotes, Okay, I
understand he's waking at all. Right, So listen, you've been you're working
on two books simultaneously. Correct three? Actually three? What's the matter with
you? I've got nothing better to do. I had so cold. Neither
do wive that. I've been doing it for thirty years. So I saw
a dog frozen to a fire hydrant yesterday. Oh wait a minute, I
thought material, how cold was it? So? Anyway, wow, So
one of the give us the title of one of the musical related books that
you I got a couple of books going there. There are just books and
progress. Ah, I thought you might enjoy us. I've been studying this
for a while. But the title of this, it's a book, and
it looks like it's going to be a Pulitzer prise winner. Probably go ahead,
that'd be nice. The title of it is the best part of being
human is the ability to experience music and unidentified anomalous phenomena. Wow, huh,
Okay, it's a multiple, but that's cool. They like long titles
these days. So before you start, you did tell us you came on
the show about a year ago and told us blew my mind that. You
know. Let's say, once we get settled on Mas, the atmosphere in
Mas is such that if a symphony orchestra played or rock band played, everything
wouldn't arrive at our ears at the same time, right, The base would
be delayed or something be right acoustically, Yeah, is that that's right?
Right? Yes? Because of the way their you know, atmosphere works and
so forth. If you were listening to a concert outside, let's say,
and I think it was the high frequencies, like if you have an orchestra
there to ask flutes, they would reach you first, and then the bases
would reach you and they'd only go about twenty six feet. Is all a
sound wave would travel on Mars and then it would drop off, so it
would be unreal. So because there's no atmosphere, right, doesn't have to
do gravity the atmosphere, but the atmosphere causes that. Then yeah, yeah,
that's crazy. Okay, please go ahead. So what's what what's this
book about? Well, I was I was thinking you might enjoyment as being
a musician yourself and you I hang around, I was a professional musician,
I studied filmmaking two and so forth. So I was thinking one night,
there's a connection here because, like I think we on one of your shows,
we talked, I've had like six encounters with UAPs during my life.
Okay, go ahead. So I started thinking there were some strange things that
were happening to me when I was a kid, and I think that people
who some people who are musicians and tend to be musicians. Yes, there's
parallels that are going on between what you experienced as a musician and what you
experience during a you opinion. Can I just interrupt just one thing here.
I just want to clarify something. I don't consider myself a musician because I
think you have to be born with the musician Jeane. But if I hang
around with a lot of musicians, and frankly a lot of them, they're
just like dopey, you know what I mean. And I don't mean that
in a bad way, you know what I mean. They're never in time.
They're just in another world, a lot of them, especially drummers as
it turns out. So that's why I'm kind of listening to you and saying,
you know what, Yeah, I could see some of those people seeing
stuff that you know, the general population doesn't see. Well, yeah,
and I and I'm kind and that's true. Have you ever heard of something
called synath seizure? Uh, let's say I have, yes, synith sees
go ahead, have you heard of that? Let's say I have Yeah,
Okay, I'll pretend yes. Well, I'll talk a little bit about that.
But you you kind of remind me of myself. Like when I first
started in music and I did my undergraduate work at Duquanne University, they used
to refer to me as the Vincent van go of the music school because I
had no ear. Oh wow, hold on, all right, that's a
thinker, but go ahead, yes, go ahead, So wow, And
I never so I had to dude, have you ever heard something called soul
fejio? Well, it's I sound I've heard half of that. It's it's
a it's a bar Actually no, it's uh it's like, well you look,
it's called ear training exercise. And I had never done any of that
as a kid or whatever. Okay, but uh, you know, I
I started figuring, my god, the things you know, I've I've experienced
six UAPs in my lifetime. And then when I was a kid nine years
old, that's when I got something called ball lightning, which is still considered
a phenomena. And when I was when I was nine years old, I
got knocked over by ball lightning, why you you know, and it was
I think it was one of those farual bolts of ball lightning. Is that
word again? That the word tomorrow? But after after that again, I
was nine years old and I was going to a Catholic elementary school and there
was a band concert that same spring. I got a knocked every by the
lightning, you know, in in early spring. And then by late spring,
I went to a concert, an elementary school band concert the school I
attended in the cafeteria where they used to call it a cafetorium. Uh.
And that's when I had my first esthetic experience. Yes, and it was
it was an elementary school band playing the Marines hymns. Yeah, sure,
man, I started having you know those uh you know, the chills and
everything. Oh yeah, really, yeah, they're okay. It wasn't a
noncoming of and backing with the Board of Education, was it. I'm not
that chills, so so are you saying that? But but let's just talk
about musicians for a second. You're a born musician, you were a professional
musician. I mean, do you do you do you feel that you were
destined to be a musician? Do you feel well, obviously you have the
musicians, Jeane, I don't have it like the musicians. I think people
are born musicians. They have to be because you see these kids, you
know, these these young Japanese kids four years old at a grand piano and
then playing Mozart flawlessly for twenty minutes. Obviously they've been born to be a
musician, right, I mean that happens, you know what I mean?
Yeah, they are, They're born with certain and what again here I'm going
in my research from the doctor's side. Uh, you've you've heard of something
called perfect pitch. Yes, yes, and those type of things. Uh.
Research seems to indicate that if you start working on that and like training
yourself with the soul, fegio and everything before the age of seven, you're
likely to become more of a professional musician, not so be trained, trained
at an early age to do it. In other words, instead of being
born at least the perfect pitch. And I see, I was finding out.
I thought everybody saw these things and heard these things when I it's not
true. Yeah, funny, funny. That's why. That's why I got
me thinking about this and this There is a link here between people what the
experiences I had as a growing up as a musician, even you know,
getting knocked over by lightning. Yes, all of that seems to be tied
in with the fact that I've seen six UAPs yes up close. Well,
we stay on the show all the time. There are people who are more
you know, likely to see a UFO have some kind of an experience than
other people, Like I've never seen one, you know, but I know
people who have seen one, who you know, and I believe them obviously,
you know. Music. It's funny because, as I said before,
and I was kind of trying to be funny, but not really musicians.
Musicians are a certain kind of people and if you know them, you you
know, if you know, all you need to know is like two or
three and you realize, oh boy, here we go, right. I
mean, they're just not in the different kinds of people. And maybe those
people you know, just happen to be people who've see lots of UFOs or
something. Well well, yeah, I mean that's exactly what I'm saying.
Is it's that people are there's something spooky going on in my appartment. Really,
you know, what's what's happening is like that. Uh, like musicians.
Okay. When I used to I used to teach music at Penn State,
Yes, and I'd always tell my classes and these are you know,
undergraduate classes. Uh. There's only one place that music can really exist,
and that's in your brain, your mind, because everywhere else just just think
of it. You're just hearing sounds. Your brain is turning the sounds into
music. Yeah, interesting, yes, yes, yes. And you know,
like I when I was in elementary school, I didn't know the difference
between baroque style music and romantic music style and classical yes, you know,
now I can nail it about who wrote it and about what month they wrote
it. Wow, wow wow. But it's because you're taking in this kind
of information and when you think about music, is the perfect parallel to these
people that are having you a p experience. Yeah, I can see that.
It's unreal. Yeah it is. Yeah, funny, there would be
a you know, it's also funny. Is that a lot of times we
used to talk about this early in the show. We used to have people
on rock Stars just take you know, your general rockstar. A lot of
them have seen UFOs And I remember actually we had Paul Cant from Jefferson Starship
on the show once years ago and I said that to him. I said,
why is that And he said, well, yeah, we're always flying
around the world. We're always in the air whatever, you know, And
he had seen somebody said because I'm moving around, you know, for the
past forty years or whatever. But maybe he was wrong. Maybe musicians see
movie. I mean, yeah, I mean it's you training brain differently as
a musician. And you see, I'm kind of off topic a little bit,
but you know, when I was I was doing my student teaching down
Duqueine just under my undergraduate degree. I I and I taught in the Hill
District, which was where they did Hill Street Blues. You remember that movie.
That's when that where that took place. Where I did my student teaching,
and when I found out that, you know, I was doing these
sophisio or ear training experiments, okay, yes, to get my ears cleaned
out and working better. And one day I was tuning. I had to
tune the orchestra. Usually you had a piano there, you know, and
I played. It was an acoustic piano, and you hit the piano key
and then you you got a violinist to play, and then you tune the
violinist and the orchestra violin. Well, what happened to me is because I
was working on train my ear because I didn't have the best ear in the
world. One day, when I hit the piano to get the A or
whatever I was studenting them with, I didn't hear just the one sound,
the one pitch A from the piano. I heard two or three different overtones
as well as the A. So I was hearing the string vibrating as a
whole string and hearing it the sound from the string vibrating is it halves and
the strings of the string vibrating in thirds? Did hear them distinctly? Why
did that happen? Suddenly? It was something that I screwed up my brain
because I was training my ear so hard to make myself a better musician.
I was hearing things differently. Yeah, wow, on for years. You
can train yourself. That's interesting. And you know, and so these these
kind of things were happening to me, and I thought it was normal.
I thought every every everyone did this. Yeah. Yeah, no, because
and and this does happen. In other words, musicians might not be born,
or people can be born and be trained to be musicians. Yes,
really, okay, we've break broke some grounds yet. And when you think
about it, the the difference between average music and great music. Yes are
the nuances, Yes, that's yes. And all the good musicians are trained
to hear those nuances. Ye, you know, And then that's your training
your brain. Nobody else does that. I am just a personal aside here,
Sophy. Years and years and years, I never got jazz, never
got it so much so that years ago I had a jazz show for two
years at a college radio station. Still didn't get I'd play everything, but
I just didn't get it because it was more of like a rock and roll
guy wanted everything to be you know. And then for some reason I went
to go see well not for some reason, went to go see Kenny Garrett,
who was a guy who played with Miles Davis. And I looked up
Miles Davis and Kenny Jarrett playing together, and suddenly I got I kind of
got it, you know what I mean, I kind of got it.
Maybe it was through Miles Davis or whatever, but I kind of you know,
now I understand what they're doing. You know, they're they're just laying
down a basic rhythm section and then they're improvising constantly over that between each other,
and the interplay is crazy. Those are very talented people, you know.
That's I mean, see what we're talking about. That's so important because
like I grew up because I grew up in Pittsburgh and I hung out with
jazz musicians because they were crazier than everybody else. Oh really I needed that.
Okay, that craziness. But talking about okay, have you ever heard
of Don Ellis album called Electric Bath? Oh yeah, yes, yeah,
yeah yes, And he had a trumpet that was had four valves instead of
the three. Yeah, okay, And the reason he had four valves was
because he wasn't you know how in an uh you have like dough ray me
in a in a scale. Sure, and then there's also there's others.
There's do ray re ray raw, There's all these different that are half tones.
Yes, yes, yes, well don Ellis, his instrument could play
quarter tones on a piano. The slightest difference is called a half tone,
a semi tongue. It's like going from a sea to a C sharp.
Yes, but don Ellis was so creative and screwed up what he did.
He was his instruments could play quarter tone. That's crazy, that is nuts.
I'm almost understanding what you're saying. Yeah, I mean that's it's an
almost impossible to do. Jazz musicians always say we want to play the notes
in between everything else. That's exactly okay. I can can explain that to
you. Like a simple keyboard, like a piano keyboard, you have like
a white key, which is a C, and then the next half key
half some above it is black. It's the C sharp well with the blues,
okay, which is jazz's built around Okay. What the jazz musicians,
who's most of them are from African descent, what they're trying to do in
jazz music is when you're playing the blues, which I played a lot of
blues, what you're trying to do is get that half step that's in between
B and B flat. And musicians that are playing the blues will play the
pitch B and the pitch B flat at the same time to try to get
that quarter tone that's between. Well that's that sounded like a B flat?
Yeah, B flat? Sneezes. So those are the nuances we're talking about
in music, right, But that's what it is, that those those quarter
tones and so forth. That's what all the blues are based on. And
pitch, you know, pitch like going from one pitch to another pitch.
That's a socio psychological phenomenon. Pitch means something different in each culture. Yeah,
funny, Yeah, that's funny. I mean one of the things I
learned is modulation. Okay, So, and and the example that someone gave
me is Barry Manilow. We're gonna take a break, So Barry Manelo and
a lot of his signs, he'll modulate at you know with a minute to
go on the song. And basically what they do is they sing the song
in a key, a certain key, and then you modulate up a little
bit and it adds this excitement, It adds this kind of like life to
the song. Exactly, You're you're singing the same song, you're just in
a higher key. And and a lot of show tunes do that. Yeah.
And then have you heard the term modes that they used to use instead
before scales and the modes? Well, those modes were originally you get the
Aeolian mode and so forth. Yeah, they were named after tribes that existed
back then. Were a really really crazy sound. You've got the name of
a really crazy tribe like the Aeolians. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
really peaceful. You may be called the Dorias. Wow, that's crazy.
Yeah I never knew that, but all those names are floating around there.
And I'll just say one thing that we get to take a break. This
has been great, Bob, who can talk about this all night? If
you want to hear something example of modulation, you know, a soign that
everyone would listen to is Penny Lane. Okay, Paul mc conn he's like
twenty four years old. He comes up with this right, and it modulates
eight times. He sings the verse in a minor key, and then when
he goes to penny lane, it goes up one and it sounds exciting,
it sounds bright, it sounds, you know, like stuff is happening,
and then like goes back down to the lower key. It's it's genius.
It's something that you know, shooping. I know one of these Mozart would
do. He did it, and that's a great example of modulation, going
up and down in keys and makes the song, makes the song sound sad
and bright and happy. I mean, but you're right, it's all our
brain. It's all not don't realize what's even happening, right, Yeah,
sad, but they don't really know what's happening. Yeah, yes, well
yeah, you know, people like us know what's happening. And a record
producer, Philly rec famous record producer, once told me, chicks dig the
bass. They put a lot of bass in the songs. Anyway, listen,
those are only feral chickens. Now hang out, let's let's give like
the bottle around of applause and run. Well done, Thank you very much,
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be here filling the void. Almost in an impish mood because no club tonight,
clubs at the Celtics Center club. Who yeah, they go there,
go, there's your there's your T shirt. But hey, where'd you get
those glasses? They look like as you get from Amazon. Yeah, I
don't get those big lady glasses though. What are those things? I have
a billion of them and I can only find maybe one or two when they
enter you need them. Hey, listen, I had seven of them lined
up the other day and almost took a picture and send them to you and
said, you know the critical mass here, this is it. I've easily
got fifteen glasses around the house or in the car. As it turns out.
That's It's funny the way they hide. Yeah, it's almost like they
are some kind of a rodent that hides the scuries into little dark places.
I was going to say, I was going to say a missing sock.
But if you want to go to the road, and that's cool. Also
in the studio with US tonight is UFO mechanic Ronaldo looking a pulling on his
own. I'm actually checking out the Boston Celtics score tonight, really and from
what I can see, and I don't know pub is at the game,
I don't know anything for what's the score basket? Well, it seems to
show the Spurs are fifteen and the Celtics are eighteen. I okay, that
makes it eighteen or fifteen. Yeah, it just started, but it's the
first uh whatever, it's six fifty one. But they better get gone because
the Celtic is favored by sixteen. You got to get going there, make
that spread anyway. Also with US is also with us? Is I good
friend up there in sideways? Yeah, Raven for a favorite good wit Raven,
Hello, my friends, Thank you for having me. Glad you're back.
We get a lot of email glad that you're back. Are you glad
you're back? Here? You out with you know five drug? Yeah for
sure? Okay, all right, we'll take I'm not that drunk. We'll
take your word for it. But okay, Uh. Doctor Bob is also
with doctor Bob grows out there in Chicago. Doctor Bob, how are you?
Hello? Everyone? Good to be here. You said earlier that you
had some kind of spooky, uh situation in your environment there? What's going
on? I don't know. It sounds like someone tapping on my walls.
That's not good. The Raven tap tap tapping on my door? Is there?
How about your neighbors? Are they crazy? Oh? Most of them?
Okay? Good? The problem solved? Mystery, so saying never more?
That comes next? Uh, Switchblade? Did I switch you? Did
I introduce you? No? I didn't down there in flat Tire, West
Virginia. I remember that switching flat Hire. It can't be funny all the
time. She's Louise. I mean, geez, Louise, I haven't heard
that since Kinny gotten all right, I haven't heard that for like fifty years
either. So Switchy, for some reason, you have you have some kind
of a look tonight. What is it? It looks like a beat nick
or something. I have a look. Yeah, you have that big glasses,
the big Carol Channing glasses, and you get a black hair line.
I don't know. Let's check with Raven and she would she thinks if I
have a look or not? Raven, I mean like it's his signature look.
I would say it's just classic. Look it really, I think it
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So Switchy has been with is with us, and let me put his
bumper in right here. And now it's time for another story from the Lost
Annimals of the Paranormal. It's time for Steve Ward's report from the Fringe.
What do you have for us tonight, switch mat do you have any idea
how many years I've been on this show? We don't want to have no
clue? Okay, now, no, no one does. No one knows
that's true. That's one of those things. Okay. What I have done
tonight I have taken a book by Nick Redfern. Now, you and Nick
Redfern have actually an association. He has helped you actually fact checked with some
of your books. Is that that true? He did fact he did fact
checking on UFOs in wartime and also beyond Area fifty one. Nick Redferend,
good guy. Well, this is a book called three hundred and sixty five
Days of UFOs. It's really a great book because what he does, he
goes through an entire year, and he talks about different UFO events in different
on different days. Now the years are all vastly different, but you know,
he goes through the entire year. Okay, let's start out March ninth,
nineteen fifty eight, Fort Clayton Canal Zone, Anama. The location is
a now closed US Army installation on the Panama Canal Zone called Fort Clayton.
At about eight pm, a UFO, not a UAP, ladies and gentlemen,
I don't talk about UAPs. I don't care what the what they say.
That's a UFO anyway. It was tracked by an anti aircraft for my
anti aircraft personnel in the canal zone area Fort Clayton, Moore. And not
the only base. Now, this was not the only base monitoring these unusual
aerial this as unusual area activity. Mm hmm it was. It was one
a M. It was by uh uh okay I you know again, I
hate to say UAP, but the radar staff at the Forest Ambassador Flamenco Island
were also tracking something bizarre, something unknown. U two UFOs again, not
UAPs, forget me. They they were. They were keeping a circular,
bizarre motion pattern in the sky. Their heights went and it was bizarre because
when they were being tracked it went from from two thousand feet to ten thousand
feet, as if they were being observed and didn't want to be observed.
Just by midnight, the personnel at Fort Amador decided to do something different.
They decided to bathe these bizarre objects in powerful ground based searchlights. The UFOs
went from and that's when they jumped from two thousand feet to ten thousand feet.
It was such an incredible rapid movement that the track lock was actually completely
unable to keep up with the rapid ascent of these unknown objects. And they
believed that these were there was not some kind of I don't know, apparition,
strange light or whatever. They were solid. The activity of the two
objects continued into the early days of the early hours of March tenth. These
objects accelerated up to speeds of one thousand miles per hour. Okay, this
is just one of the many early UFO sidings that were chronicled back in the
old days. March eleventh, nineteen forty four. This is before nineteen forty
seven. Remember nineteen forty seven was the year that Kenneth Arnold said he saw
these discs, these nine discs flying across Washington State. That started the more
modern day UFO mystery. Okay, this is nineteen forty four, London,
Ingrin, England. This is from Gordon Crichton. Now Gordon Crichton, if
you remember, he was a phenomenal researcher. He was one of the ones
that started that was that followed the Flying Saucer Review. Flying Saucer Review was
a great, great, great published British publication from nineteen fifty five on,
and he was he was one of these people that really investigated seriously this type
of phenomenon. He was also and I did not know this, he was
a diplomat and an intelligence officer at the same time. And this was now,
this particular incident was not recovered until March twenty eighth, nineteen forty four.
The details of this were this alleged crash. Now we know we've had
many alleged crashes over the years roswell as tech and so forth, and I
admit I have been a little skeptical of some of the but this one was
revealed in finally in nineteen fifty five. Do any of you remember Dorothy kill
Gallen. Dorothy kill Gallen was a great reporter back in yesteryear. She was
actually one of the many things she did. She was on the Oh God
Mac, what was that show? The what's my line? On you go?
Or what's my line? Yes, what's my line? Thank you?
And there was one Sunday night that she was on and the next day she
was dead. And they can well said that she had had I don't know,
alcohol and barbitiowitz or whatever. But then there were many others that said,
well, she had some information on UFOs and so forth. But anyway,
she was working on a story about the Kennedy assassination. You know.
She was a well known, yes, well known national column so the LA
Examiner said that she could She reported that a British scientist airman, after the
examining of the wreckage of a mysterious flying ship, could say that this mysterious
craft was not an illusion that hardon me, or it was something that was
or a Soulfgate invention. And she said that this had originated from the sources
she had from another world. Killty Gary Allen Cagallan said that this source of
her information this goes back a long ways, was from a British official of
cabinet rank, who remained, of course identified, and said, we believe
that the saucers were staffed by small men under four feet tall. And there
is no denying that these saucers came from another world, from another planet.
This goes way back, and I don't know what to think of this.
The flying ship of this type could not have been constructed on this planet,
is what they said. This anonymous source that the British government is withholding an
official report so as not to frighten the public. Okay, And here's the
last little incident here. And this is all again from Nick Redfern's great book
three hundred and sixty five Days of UFO Encounters. Just a fascinating book.
I mean every page is fascinating. Okay. Lockness, Scotland, August fourteenth,
nineteen seventy one a Swedish investigator, John Sunberg early am. He was
in a wooded area near Foyers Bay. Now, if you look at at
a map of Lockedness and you look down the sort of the right side,
the east side, you will see where Fouryer's Bay is. And this this
gentleman, This Yon Sunburn Wash. He was fascinated by the lock nest phenomenon.
He found himself in a clearing UH somewhere near the uh the eastern edge
of the of the UH of the lock and he saw what he you know,
when he first saw this, he thought this was a a a a
crew of I mean, he saw this object. He thought, well,
these guys must be in the submersible that are are going to out and check
the lock ness monster. Then he takes a closer look at them, and
they are a little bit odd. They're in these kind of uh spacesuits where
they just don't look like real humans. And when they and then when he
sees them, he sees this craft sitting there that again he thinks, is
what must be as submersible. They must be going out there to look for
the lock nest monster. He sees these guys getting in there and climbing in
there, and then instead of going up into the atmosphere, they I mean,
instead of going into the water, they go up into the atmosphere and
fly away. And he thinks, oh my god, what have I just
experienced? What have I what have I just seen? And that was just
several of the amazing experiences that that Nick Redfern talks about in this really fascinating
book called three hundred and sixty five Days of UFO Encounters. It makes me,
it makes me think of it makes me think about that what you talked
about earlier, I mean shows, earlier shows where I think it was John
Keel who kind of figured out that paranormal events happened on almost a schedule,
you know, like a certain time of day, a certain time of year,
you know where the earth is, you know, didn't he didn't.
He kind of nail it down to kind of events happening almost in account.
Actually, you know, it was funny because he early on he was asked
by Playboy magazine to do a great research project on the UFO phenomenon. And
what he did was he chronicled, I don't know how many different UFO reports
UFO God, what's the word? No, I just can't think of the
word. News clipping series. He would pull them in and I remember there
was a friend of mine, Kevin who he and another guy. God,
I wish i'd been there. This is years ago, This is after the
nineteen sixty seven mufah No, not new Fahn. The uh when when James
Moseley had this incredible uh uh connection, this incredible conference in nineteen sixteen.
Uiful incredible my brain. Sorry, Matt, all right, friendly me the
the uh the Congress of Scientific Euthologists. Wow, that's what I wanted.
Ahead, thank you. I I know, listen at my age, Mack.
It takes a while, so anyway, okay, but he uh this
he had James Mosley, who was the author of Saucer News for so many
years. It started out for a few years as Nexus, but years later
he had this great one of the only great publications of Saucer. You know.
He used to call them Flying Saucer Informations. Yes, and it was
just you know, there are some reprints of some of the stuff which are
just fascinating. And this friend of mine, Kevin, actually it wasn't that
year. Wasn't nineteen sixty seven. I think it must have been nineteen sixty
eight. He had a he was able to actually with a guy named Mark
visit Sean Keel. I mean they got his address. They got his address
somehow in New York City. He lived on the West Side, didn't they
I'm not sure? But man, how I wish I had been there.
So they went there. They actually Kevin told me we had the actual balls
to knock on this guy's door. And he opened it up and here was
John Keel. John Keele was in his pjs. He was sitting on the
floor. They were all sitting on the floor cross legged. This was a
probably the precursor to Keeal. He was commissioned to do a report on Playbohite
magazine, sort of the ultimate UFO exposetting, and so he's he's there onboy,
this guy in his pjs with hundreds of articles from new slipping services from
all over the bloody world. And so my friend Kevin and I got you
know, I have this fantasy of actually being there, but they were there.
They uh. Keel was magnanimous, he uh for about an hour and
a half he talked to them and they just shared information. And that ladies
than gentlemen was probably the beginning of his great great book called UFO's Operation Trojan
Horse. That was the book that actually completely changed my perspective on UFOs.
That that book right there, That was that was around the time of Strange
Creature from Time and Space when he talks about window areas and a few years
later when he wrote them offman prophecies. So, uh, this was what
a great time this was, you know? And ye god, you know
I had to live vicariously through my friend Kevin, who met John Key and
went to the What was that back in nineteen sixty seven was the Congress Get
this, ladies and gentlemen of scientific eufologists at the Common Motel in New York
City run by James Moseley, who ran Saucer News at that time. Man,
oh man, you can find some of these old issues, some of
this old stuff being reprinted here and there. But I just this was such
a great time when when so many of us and back in those days,
heck, I was just a babe in arms, man I had it was.
It was the in the middle sixties where, oh god, it was
March of nineteen sixty six, mac when I first when when doctor j Allen
Heinich again because of those the marsh Gas site. Yes, I remember that
what you was that shot you? What you was the marsh Gass sixty six.
That was a big I was there watching his uh uh, his conference
live conference in Michigan when he suggested that he was tied to the Air Force.
He had to pretend like he was objective and all that stuff, even
though Heinich knew the Air Force was full of shits, yes, and he
was not okay, So he actually suggested that some of them might be some
of them might be swamp guests. See, someone should do a good movie,
a good biography, but a good movie about Jay Allen Heinech because he's
the guy who worked with the f was and then flipped because he saw he
saw, you know, information he started intelligence that told him, I mean,
once again, I goes, if one UFO story is true, then
they're all true. You know what I mean. If there's one flying saster,
then they're all true. And he believed that there was something else out
there. Now here we are forty years later talking about it and mac in
nineteen seventy six, ten years later, I as a kid in Michigan went
to the nineteen seventy six Upon Symposium in Ann Arbor, Michigan. He was
there man and he had separated from the from Project Blue Book. He was
his own man. He had stuck at the Center for UFO Studies and I
was there listening to this man talk about His talk was Swamp Gas plus ten
and counting. Really have that recording on a CD because I was there with
my this little nerd with my cassette recorder at the time. So God,
what a great man. And fortunately his son is out there occasionally on shows
like Ancient Aliens, continuing on his legacy. Thank God for the Heinegs.
And they're the ones who came up with that maneuver. Right. Wow,
No, I'm thinking of the guy that invented the stethoscope. Wow. Switchy
Wow, well done, thank you switch great memories. Wow. And it
was just it was you know, Nick Redfern does a phenomenal job, as
you know, man, yea. In this book three hundred and sixty five
Days of UFOs, my god, you will be uh stimulated, an excited
okay, belief, wow, beyond belief. You read it. I hate
to say it, switched. I was going to take a bit, but
listen, Red friend, British guy living in Dallas, of all places.
I said to Pa, wind up there, man, you know what I've
seen him speak and he still sounds a little bit like a brit Oh yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, he still has the accent. I think it
gives it that authority you know, for some reason you here an English person
talking. It's like they all went to freaking Oxford, you know, because
it just sounds credibility, incredibility good. You know, it's like butter on
toast. Just it sounds so good. Wow, it's like watching American whale
wolf in London, you know. Listening to the girl talk, I definitely
want a lady to tell me that I I sound like butter a coast.
Wow. I can give you a number if you have a credit card.
That's true, I mean if you have If you have a credit card,
we can literally make anything. Oh listen, I've got a credit card.
It's got an endless number of room on it. Okay, do you throw
a catnip there? Switchy baby, did you get into it today? Can
you send us some well, listen, leave them laughing. I put up
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the all the all the cat wants to do is eat. That's the whole
idea they get. They re erode all you people. Okay, they just
want to eat. That's why they come up in the cuddle and the open
up the can grab both cats and put them together the head to handle the
train wreck. There you go. Well he's shaying that. I want to
say thank you to I guess doctor Bob. Thank you for joining us tonight.
We appreciate it. Thank you for having me, Bob, thank you.
Let's clap from okay, because he is a doctor and it's good to
know doctors. Which what are you doing? Switch? I'm ready. I'm
ready for some pulling slide to show up and stretch together and they image for
the listener. Switch is just going through filters, right, Switch to just
do it twice next next week. Okay, thank you, Switchy really appreciate
Thank you all. Ranaldo, Okay, running away to the gallley, thank
you, thank you, Raven. We appreciate it. Thank you so much
for me. This is it was a funny night. So let's see.
I think that's it. I just want to remind everyone remember John McKennon was
not a loser. Here was someone that we look up to. He was
a disabled veteran. He's a hero in this country. You don't make fun
of those people. So until next time, this is Mac for the entire
gang saying, be safe, be happy, and bye bye. I hear
the love of Hey Mac maloney fans, This is Pistol Pete and I'm sitting
here with the one and only Mac Maloney. Hi Mac Pink Now Mac You've
got a new book out called how to Dump a Body at Sea and Not
Get Caught that you wrote with our pal, famous crime novelist Mark Zappula.
How did this whole thing come about? Well, Mac and I have this
mutual friend that we w oute having faz with every once in a while,
and he had the same twenty stories that he would tell us kind of over
and over again. And at some point I said, you know, we
should write these down, and we did and it turned into a book.
It's such a crazy title. How'd you come up with it? Well,
kind of the same thing. We're in talking to this friend of ours one
night and he just said, you know how to get rid of a body
sea? And I can taught And of course we didn't know, and so
he told us. And the secret is in the book. But I can
say that it involves a lot of chainling fence and some crabs. Now,
Mac, you gave me an advanced copy of the book, and like I
said before, it's one of the funniest things I've ever read. It reminded
me of the Sopranos, if the Sopranos had a laugh track. Thanks Pete.
But it also gives you instructions on how to do some pretty shady stuff,
stuff not exactly legal. Well, yeah, the book is about the
true life adventures of a druvenout de Linklin growing up in Boston in the late
nineteen eighties, so you get a lot of the inside stuff, like the
best way to steal a car, best way to burn aca, how to
make fake ideas, things like that. But in one chapter you actually tell
people how to turn an old, broken down Toyota into a brand new Rolls
Royce in five easy steps and it actually works. Yeah. I know it
sounds crazy. I didn't believe until I saw the proof, but yes,
it actually works. Now, one last question. There's a lot of laughs
in the book, but also a lot of pretty crazy stuff, legal and
illegal. Is it really all true. It's really all true, but on
the advice of a publisher, they've asked us not the same thing beyond that
for legal reason. But yes, it is all true. Well thanks Mac.
That's how to dump a body at sea and not get caught, The
Al Ferrari story by Mac and crime writer Mark Zippula. Get it today on Amazon