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Cliff Berkman and James Bobo Fay Cliff Bobo

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RD. How are you doing?
Just joined the day? Nice? Well,

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that's good, that's good. I'm
scrambling to get ready for this trip

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I'm taking on Sunday. I'll tell
you about that a minute. And um

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and I got home late last night. It was how big footing last night.

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I got home and got to bed
around one or one thirty or something

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like that. But uh, yeah, it's been a lot of time walking

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for very very little no noises or
anything like that. Found two maybe prints,

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but if they are, if they
are indeed prints, they were very

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very old and kind of indistinct,
but might have been the real deal.

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I know other people have been casting
footprints in one of these areas kind of

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a lot lately, kind of a
lot. I'm aware of one, two,

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three, four, five at least
five footprints cast in this area in

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June. So um and I think
I think there's a couple. But now,

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mind you that's two fines because a
lot of times, you know,

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like like I've cast I think nine
footprints or nine prints in twenty twenty three,

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and oh, that's so much.
Kind of, it's only three things,

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it's only three circumstances, and I've
cast multiple prints out of each one,

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as any I think good researcher would
do. Right. Um, So

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the numbers kind of you know,
misrepresent the luck of the find but um

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of the princes in June, you
know, it's there were two some footprints

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in one spot. There is a
handprint and some finger scrapes, and another

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footprint in another spot, and that
I believe, I believe, if I

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have my story right, that one
actually resulted in a sighting. At the

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same time, this guy was actually
casting one of these I think it was

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that one casting a print, and
he looked up and he was being watched

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by one of these things about sixty
seventy yards away. So at a lot

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of activity basically in this one spot. It's a new area. We haven't

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been there before, in this one
spot in June. So we went up

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there last night to go walk around. And it's good to get some miles

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under my feet anyway, I've been
a little lethargic lately, getting over the

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COVID thing a few weeks ago and
all that sort of stuff. Yeah,

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just got that last week and a
half. Yeah, man, there rust

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it's another resurgence I guess going on
because I think two of my friends said

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that each one of them knew two
people individually that had also caught it.

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I got it, and of course
if I have it, my wife has

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it. And then one of my
vendors was telling me he got it too,

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like a week after I didn't,
and he didn't get it from me.

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Of course I wasn't in the shop
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think I guess it's going around again. Oh and you know what, I

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think the biggest tragedy of them all. I'm pretty sure Sochi got it.

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Really. Oh yeah, they get
it. Yeah, dogs can get this.

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Apparently it's it's it's easily transferable to
dogs, but not cats. But

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yeah, so and I was thinking, what's going on with Sochi? She

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seemed she's an old dog. Now, you know, I love old dogs.

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They're just cool and mellow and stuff. But she seemed particularly old,

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and I say, O, wait, man, she's only ten or eleven

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she seemed a little bit more lethargic
than normal, and then she was doing

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this thing she was going, and
at first like, oh, that's adorable.

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Whatever that is, that's adorable.
But then I looked it up and

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they said, oh, it means
your dog might be in pain or is

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sick, and then suddenly became much
less adorable. You know, no one

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wants us to get a dog in
pain, especially one that you love,

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right, or any dog, of
course, but but you know, so

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she's pretty much my everything except for
Melissa, right. And then you know,

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dogs don't cough real well, right, but they do make that weird

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sort of coughing noise they have it
sound like the heavy smokers's. Yeah.

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Yeah, And you know, and
I'm pretty sure Sochi's stopped smoking like last

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year, you know, unless she's
going out back like hitting a cigarette or

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something. I'm pretty sure she's stopped
at Habits cartoons. Oh I love them.

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Yeah, when nobody's watching. Um. Yeah. So anywayeah, so

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anyway, I think she's better now. I mean, Melissa and I were

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looking at her today and she's acting
much more normal the last couple of days.

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But yeah, I think I think
my poor dog got it too kind

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of sucks. Yeah, of course, then you know, the COVID takes

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a toll on the end. Like
I still have a little persistent cough,

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and I get tired pretty easily in
the middle of the day, even though

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it's been like a week and a
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pretty much got over the time period
you're supposed to isolate and then wear masks

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and all that other junk. But
um, I get tired all the time.

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But I'm a little worried about it
because on Sunday, I'm backpacking Tape

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Canyon. Oh that's right, yeah, yeah, Mark, Marcel and I

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are going to go spend the night
at the cabin site for the ninety ninth

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anniversary, which is this coming Monday, July tenth. Yeah, he invited

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me to go, but I was
just like, dude, unless you bring

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a stretcher, Well, the stretcher
is not going to help you because I'm

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not dragging your ass up and down
that you can lay there in the stretcher

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until we get back down the hill. Roll down the hill. Oh yeah,

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well you can't roll up, so
I do the stretcher. Yeah.

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So so Monday headed up to the
cabin site, gonna spend the night at

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the cabin site. Um, I
don't think anyone's done that since, you

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know, for ninety nine years,
you know, and that last time that

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somebody tried it ninety nine years ago
didn't go that well, they got chased

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out of the area. So I'm
kind of excited about that. Well.

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Mark talks about hearing the vocalizations up
there when you cant that one night,

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like just booming back and forth,
like multiple ridge top locations. Just he

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said it was the gnarliest. I
think it had impacted it more than seeing

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those ones he saw, and I
believe more than one occasion, because Mark's

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been up there a handful of times
over the last ten years. They have

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found footprints up in that general area. Yeah, yeah, footprints and vocalizations.

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And it's no wonder because you're there, you know, you're you're right

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underneath the caldera. You can see
up you're it's a spectacular view of the

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mountain because you're right there, right
there. But the entire rock face is

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dotted in little white specks, and
when you look closely, those white specks

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are actually mountain goats. So the
whole place is thick with mountain goats,

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no wonder sasquatches are cruising around up
there. They're just picking them off and

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eating those. Yeah and yeah.
And then it turns out in the whole

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area there's no water, which is
one of the sketchy things about being up

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there is there's no waters. You're
you're dragging water in essentially, you know.

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Um, but there is a spring. And from the place you camp,

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where you stage before you go down
to the cabin side, and there's

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no water to the cabin site either, but where you stage, um,

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it's about a half mile three quarter
mile walk to the only water side in

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the area, the only spring in
the entire area. And so I think

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the last night, the night after
the cabin night, we're gonna probably camp

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there off the spring was closer.
It was not like a couple hundred yards

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or something. It's it's about it's
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Oh, I didn't know it is
that far. Yeah, it's a kind

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of I mean, if I remember
right, I haven't been there for nine

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years or something or eight years,
But if I remember right, it's a

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it's a it's a trudge man.
Also, Yeah, when talking about going

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to the spring, I didn't realize
it was such a track. Yeah,

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it's not close. It's not close. So I'm bringing you know, I'm

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bringing a couple of extranal genes and
stuff, and any chance of film filling

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up on the way up, I
will certainly do it because dehydration is one

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of my biggest fears now since I
since that battle with kidney stones last year.

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It's like, oh, well never, I'll never be dehydrated again if

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I can help it. That's what
I got for you, man. Yeah,

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so big week, that's exciting.
Yeah, And I don't know when

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this is coming out, of course, but I know that there's a I'm

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going to be doing an appearance in
a couple of weeks of East Tennessee,

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and two weeks after that, I'm
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that that festival in Logan, Man. So there's a lot going on this

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summer. Yeah. It should be
fun going to uh the Tennessee gig.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's always a
good, good time and they run a

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great event. And you know we're
gonna miss you Renee and Mattelby there.

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I'll be there in I'll be there
in the morning online doing a virtual appearance

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for the Bobo lookalike contest. Really, I hope you win. Yeah,

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it's gonna be it's early. It's
like a noon. H well that is

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early. That'll be like, you
know, because there's a time change there,

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bobs are you're gonna be gonna get
up that early and do a nine

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am appearance for us. It's gonna
be rough because you've done that job.

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It's it's crazy. There's a lot
of people there and then that's inside the

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building and like after the event,
you go outside and it's Gatlinburg. Gatlinburg's

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insane. Man, It's like Universal
Walk and Disneyland and everywhere else. I

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don't want to be all wrapped into
one, dude. It's it's brutal.

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Like we got caught. I think
it was a prove it when we got

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and it was like an hour and
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a mile oh in a car,
yeah, oh yeah, I drove.

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I rented a car last time I
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that area. It took forever to
get out and it wasn't even I mean

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compared to the night before. It
wasn't even jam packed on the street.

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But it's up forever to get out. It was insane, dude, Sundays

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even Gatlinburg on Siday heading back towards
Knoxville. Oh my god, what that's

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like, LA. You may as
well live in LA or Seattle or something.

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It's nuts, man, It's nuts. But I'm looking forward to it

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because once every three or four years, I can handle it. But so

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kill I mean, I love the
smoke. He's it's such a bitch a

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place and the people that are around, and it's a it's a good it's

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a good vantage. I was the
first headliner that had the first year they

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had that, but it was during
the peak of COVID. It was not

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a very good turnout. Oh really
really Yeah, that's unfortunate. Yeah,

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but it is a beautiful place and
I do like Tennessee an awful lot.

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So I'm looking forward to the job. And you know, even though I'm

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in a lot of ways, I'm
a My introversion presents a lot of challenges

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for me. I think we've talked
about that on the air here. But

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but once every few years doing something
like that, yeah, I can handle

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it, and then I'll be done
and then um, you know, in

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a couple more years, I'll go
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you know, yeah, well cool, we should get to the squatchy part.

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Yeah yeah, this is a course
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A. This is our semi occasional
topical episodes. Ye a nice topical thing

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you want to rub all over your
arms and shoulders. Or we take on

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topics and things that we find interesting. So because what we how we do

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this is, you know, like
Bobo and I were avid readers, were

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check out the news all the time, and whatever something crosses our desk that

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we think is interesting and at least
slightly pertinent to our our favorite subject in

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the world sasquatch, we send it
to Matt Prue at our producer, the

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levely and talented Matt Prue, of
course, who has a new book out

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everybody should good buy. And then
he puts all these things together and we

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just kind of pick and choose.
Hey, here's a news article that we

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enjoyed and we think is interesting,
and we discuss it for a while.

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So it's our topical episode. Welcome
to our topical episode. So, Bobo,

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do you want to start as our
particular news I and they caught your

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attention or do you want me to
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think I brought it up. Four. I think I brought it up,

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but I didn't have The article in
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and chunks of ice to hunt walruses
and seals. And I remember hearing that

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and I was like, oh,
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just mistook it for a squat for
a bear, polar bear or whatever.

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And then I do also remember my
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here up in Humble area. Guy
one guy telling me a bear, a

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black bear threw a stump at him, like a chunk of a stump at

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him, like picked up to his
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legs and picked up his front legs
and like checked it out him like and

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he said it went like twelve to
fifteen feet in the air, like not

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like just you know laterally like it
didn't almost hit him or nothing. And

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then I knew another guy that said, um, a bear picked up a

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big rock and like throw it in
his direction. Yeah, yeah, And

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you know, um, well,
you just straight to the source here.

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It's from Smithsonian magazine and the title
the articles polar bears take down walruses by

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hurling rocks and ice. New research
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new tools, and certainly, if
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of bears are very very very likely
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the interesting takeaways for me, at
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of all, the native people in
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yeah, duh. Exactly. If
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the woods, ask a native person. They have tens of thousands of years

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of history in that particular area.
I spent three months there with my grad

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student, you know, like I'll
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versus ten twenty thirty thousand years.
Come on, yeah, yeah, of

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course. And of course the woods
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five. Some dude, Charles Francis
Hall was his name, an Arctic explore

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he published an Inuit account. So
he published a native account of a polar

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bear attacking walruses, and he wrote
about it, and he published it and

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talking about how he hurled the polar
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wal wrists and basically crushing his skull. So and of course Native people knew

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about this, they had seen these
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couple of lessons here. Number one, Yeah, native knowledge. Listen,

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listen, listen to it. It's
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up, you know. Um.
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so many big footers, and I
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sasquashes are the only thing out there
throwing rocks. And clearly I'm wrong,

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and everybody else who said that are
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they define well, I mean not
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they're not throwing them forty yards or
forty feet. I mean they're throwing

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them kind of down, you know, kind of they need the vertical height

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to get, you know, any
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when squashes are throwing rocks, I
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they're whizzing by stuff like that.
Bears not doing those kind of rock throws,

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but like those bigger rock that they
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like you know, you hear them
crashing down a hill. If they

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got that could definitely be a bear. Yeah, it seems like most of

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the throwing going on with these bears
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off the side of cliffs or whatever
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These uh you know, twenty thirty
fifty mile an hour fastballs coming in,

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going through the tree tops and hitting
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think that those are sasquatches. Oh
yeah, undoubtedly. Yeah. So anyway,

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ye have two big takeaways. M
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throw rocks. Go figure, and
by the way, with accuracy. I

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thought that was another interesting thing.
Here. Let's see, I want I'm

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kind of scrolling through the article here. Let me find where it where it

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says this. It says the bear
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animal's head a large rock, cackling
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and thus crushing the thick, bulletproof
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I love it, And of course, you know, but I don't

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know, Maybe I just have different
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and a lot of people or whatever. But the scientists, they said

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the most significant part of this is
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a situation, think of it in
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out what it might have to do
to be successful. Really, is that

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the most like, I don't know, I think they're underestimating bears. Oh

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dude, underestimated everything. Yeah,
stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with

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Cliff and Bogo will be right back
after these messages. Yeah, I mean

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scientists and a lot of people in
general underestimating animals. Is that chimpanzees can

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bind calls to communicate new meaning.
I mean that doesn't surprise me at all.

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It's like, yeah, I mean, of course they do, Yeah,

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of course, of course. And
of course this was published on phizz

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dot org like pizzas in short for
physics dot org. It's a great science

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blog and they routinely published a lot
of arts that I know that I'm interested

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in. And so yeah, again, scientists are underestimating these animals. And

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I see this all and such a
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people underestimating these animals all the time. And that's why I get so perturbed.

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My feathers get all a fluff when
people say, colo, if you

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think these sasquatches are just big dumb
apes. Well they're big, and I

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think they're apes, but they're not
dumb. And it kind of shows how

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little people understand, how fantastic and
what a high level of cognition these other

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are our brethren, these other ape
species have. Yeah, they communicate,

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Yeah, they're they're basically talking to
each other to some degree. And you

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know, birds talk to one another, but an entire song will will express

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a meaning, you know, and
and humans we have things that express meaning

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and we can rearrange them. So
are our language abilities a little bit different

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than theirs because it's a little bit
more advanced. But to think that chimpanzees

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were not capable of that, I
think that's kind of ridiculous, you know.

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I mean, chimpanzees are extraordinarily intelligent
animals. They're not the smartest of

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the apes generally speaking, for problem
solving skills. That's that that trophy goes

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to the orangutan from an I understand
from my reading. But chimpanzees are very

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very intelligent, so of course they
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thought. They would probably rearrange it
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that they are clearly capable of.
Right. Yeah, it's like, well,

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as you're talking about not the most
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If you give a gorilla a screwdriver, he'll I forget what it was.

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But if you give it chimpanzee a
screwdriver, he'll he'll figure out how to

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stab you with it. If you
give it to an orangutan, he'll figure

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out how to escape with it.
Oh yeah, Yeah, they don't even

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need a screwdrivers. I mean,
their hands are so strong they can actually

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undo the bolts and whatever in their
in their enclosures. They people, or

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zookeepers in general, have a very
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Yeah. Yeah, I've seen videos
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could remember that saying. Our guests
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Yeah, yeah, and gorillas they
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it. They said, well,
who cares man? So I kind of

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like that kind of like the gorilla
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Yeah? Yeah. But you know, as far as getting back to the

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article here about the combination of calls
with chimpanzees, how many times, Bobo

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have you heard a combination of noises
being omitted by a purported sasquatch. Yeah,

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several. Well, we'll describe.
Tell us, tell them, tell

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us what what what you heard?
Please? I can't describe the sounds,

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but I mean it was like it
was definitely put together a different I don't

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even know how to explain it.
Yeah, because I've only really heard them

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do one or two like a rise
at whoa, like that kind of stuff,

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and with the end going who like
that like kind of that warbly thing

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that is very often associated with the
vocalizations. But I can't think of any

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time I've heard them do something like
well, I've knocks and whoops. I've

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heard those things together, whistles and
whoops. Um no, no, I'm

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sorry, whistles and knocks. I've
heard that as well. But I can't

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think of like them going whoa,
who whoo or anything like that, like

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changing the actual vocalization being exhibited.
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thing I noticed is at the end
of the Ohio house, like the drop

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off that weird warbly part at the
end. I've noticed that's gonna be different

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for sure. I wonder how length
of the call, like when they just

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go like when they do those like
twelve second versus like a five second or

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a four second one. Right,
Yeah, I've heard a variety of that

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sort of thing, but never never
a combination of different sounds. Never in

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that sort of way, you know, So it makes you wonder well,

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Sami chatter, I mean that when
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of different sounds. I mean,
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I've only heard the recordings and um, and so far that's a sample set

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of one. I want to I'd
like to hear it from myself or hear

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a slew of other recordings, so
I can, you know, learn a

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little bit more about what might be
going on there. Right, It's gonna

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be interesting to see AI is in
these quantum computers and stuff that put to

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this stuff, like what they're going
to figure out like with all the analyzation

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of all the calls and there should
be some good breakthroughs. Well. Yeah,

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so this idea of combining meaningful vocalizations, you know, if we do

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it, we clearly do it,
and chimpanzees do it, and our our

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last common ancestors about six million years
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give or take a few months,
so they did it too, So everything

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passed the everywhere in between here and
there, they probably did it as well.

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They probably did as well, which
of course means austral epithescenes and all

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of our course i'd be other hominins
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it makes me kind of wonders since
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means doesn't mean they don't do it. Of course, some people think that

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that these are pretty much silent species, which I think is kind of a

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ridiculous statement, knowing what we know
about vocalizations at this point. But that's

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signorant. Yeah, I would think, Yeah, it seems to be ignoring

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a lot of the data, that's
for sure. But um, but I

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don't know. I'd like to hear
a vocalization of multiple sounds multiple Um what

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what's the word I'm looking for?
Like compositions, I guess, But I'm

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not aware of any vocalization recordings of
that. But then again, maybe they're

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just not trying to express anything with
that, or maybe I'm overthinking it,

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and that's exactly what the whoops and
knocks or the whistles and knocks are I

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still I can't wait till we figure
out how many knocks means what or if

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that's even consistent, right, I
mean, the affors doesn't mean anything at

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all. It's just like one guy
banks three times, a guy banks once

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or four times or whatever. It's
just being because he's more hyper, he's

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got more testosterone, or she's more
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we start learning this stuff, you
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time. Well hopefully we're learning a
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good record taking and all that sort
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and we've got another another article about
underestimating that's the Home of the Lady,

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about how they're intelligence. They had
a brain one, they're the size of

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the of a human like us.
But it turns out there are more complex

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thinkers than we gave them credit for, like the whole burials and the hashtags

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and the symbols. Yeah, of
course. And this is from the Rising

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Star Cave in South Africa, and
this is on ABC News is ABC news

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dot co dot com. Article um
published in early June about Homo ledi,

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of course, which is another human
name and not maybe not ancestor, but

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human relative. It's a hominin for
sure. And these things were kind of

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small, and they're very archaic in
a lot of ways. They showed a

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lot of characteristics of early hominins,
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So there, and of course,
um there's a lot of interesting things about

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Homo and aldi. First of all, all of the fossils from this one's

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species have been found in one place, in one place only. Um,

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I think that the Rising Star Cave
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find, of all these different hominin
fossils, I believe more than doubled all

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of the hominin fossils in the world. So now this one, this one

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particular find, gave us more hominin
fossils in one find than we had collected

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in the previous one hundred and fifty
years. Well what really, what's really

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amazing about it to me is the
scarcity of fossils. Yeah, yeah,

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because it turns out there aren't that
many fossils. People. I think that

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we hear about them so much and
we get this idea that we have all

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these different fossils and all these different
examples of all these different hominins, and

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it's just simply is not true.
It just simply is not true. We

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have barely any you know, of
the billions of these different animals that existed,

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we have barely any. I was
talking about this in the shop the

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other day. Is people alcome,
there's not more fossils, and you know,

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yeah, that whole thing that we
get all the time. And I

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brought up the idea of Trynosaurus rex
um. You know, everybody knows about

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t rexes, you know, Jurassic
Park and all that jazz. And a

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recent study suggested that there were a
couple billion of these over time. And

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to my knowledge, and I believe
I'm correct on this, and if I'm

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not, please let me know.
I don't mind. I don't mind being

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wrong. From what I understand,
we have yet to find one complete skeleton.

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So all, all of the rearticulated
fossil skeletons of Tyrannosaurus rex are composites

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of different animals put together. But
even though there are billions of these things

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over time, we have yet to
find one complete fossilized skeleton. And a

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lot of that is true of hominins
as well. Oh yeah, there's always

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bones missing, always bones missing.
But back to the Homone Alady things.

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There seemed to be deliberate scratch marks
on the wall inside this cave system,

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and there's triangles, there's hashtag signs. We don't know what the We have

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no idea what these carvings with these
scratch marks mean, but it seems to

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be that these were used by homone
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of symbolic thought going on here,
some some sort of symbolism, which is

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one of the defining characteristics of what
humans are about really for the most part,

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although that again that that line is
very much blurred every time we learned

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something new about another one of these
animals where they're talking about ravens or other

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covids or dolphins or something else that
like, oh, yeah they do that

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too. Yeah, Yeah, maybe
humans aren't this site aren't as special as

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we thought. Yeah, they're the
first social media presence hashtag in those graves.

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Yeah, I guess so, I
guess so hashtag and aldia they line

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up that, yeah, because those
they scratched into the rock surface and they

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line up right over the right each
one lines up over a grave. Well,

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I'm going to read a paragraph out
of this real fast. And what

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I like about is this. The
finding was striking and shocking and erases the

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idea of human exceptionalism that humans are
different than animals and special due to their

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big brains. Home and Aldi had
brains about the size of a chimpanzee and

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yet practice ritual burials, a behavior
previously assumed was only done by humans.

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Lee Burger says. Lee Burger is
the name of the paleo anthropologist who's in

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charge of this entire dig. But
again, I don't know. I'm not

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sure I totally one percent agree with
everything he just said there, because I

405
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:18.839
think that, yeah, are they
actually is this actually examples of ritual burials?

406
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:21.920
Because they're scratching on a wall.
I don't know what we don't know

407
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:23.440
that. I think it's very possible. I'm not saying it's not, but

408
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.200
I think that perhaps at this point, maybe it's a little early. I

409
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:29.640
don't know, what do you feel
about that, Bobo, A little maybe

410
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:32.559
a tadbit earlier. Yeah, I
mean, I think it's very possible and

411
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:37.079
a super intriguing idea, But again, it's to say it is that this

412
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.119
is ritual burial as I don't know. Maybe maybe it's like, oh,

413
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:41.200
dude, there's a dead thing there, let's scratch the wall there because it

414
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.960
stinks. Who knows? So,
yeah, exactly, you don't want to

415
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.799
step in that. Man, How
often are we going to find another thing

416
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:52.480
like that to corroborate? You know, like, no, I would love

417
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.480
How about how fantastic would it be
to find another cave system or another example,

418
00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.920
any other example of homology. Yeah, just if we have something compared

419
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:06.279
to other case would be we'd get
some answers then, And you know,

420
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:07.799
there's a lot of speculation. He
goes on to say they've made they might

421
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.200
have been placing artifacts and graves with
the bodies, but no examples have been

422
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.599
found to that. But you know
what that does show is that, I

423
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.640
mean, I think it's a pretty
safe bet at this point to say that

424
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:23.200
sasquatch brains proportional to their bodies are
are barely larger than chimpanzees. Okay,

425
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.680
they're big animals, and therefore they
have big brains, but you know,

426
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.759
whales have real big brains too,
and of course whales are real, real

427
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.400
smart. But the larger the animal
the larger the brain is going to be.

428
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.720
But that doesn't necessarily equate with higher
level thinking or symbolic thought, or

429
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.640
intelligence or problem solving or any of
those things, because there's a certain certain

430
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.839
amount of mass in the brain that
is required to run a larger body.

431
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.200
It's just a fact. And by
looking at the Patterson Giblin film subject and

432
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.519
comparing it to like other skulls,
like there's doctor Melton is a great presentation

433
00:27:52.559 --> 00:28:00.359
where he lines up the skull of
paranthropist Boiseye and shows that it is exactly

434
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:06.599
exactly proportional to the Patterson gibling film
subject face, like the mouth, the

435
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:10.759
chin, the nose, the zygomatic
arches, everything about it, the orbital's

436
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:15.000
eye sockets, everything lines up exactly. And I find that to be pretty

437
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.680
pretty and interesting. Um. And
also, but you can in that wonderful

438
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.599
composite photograph where the sasquatch in the
in the PG film is turning its head,

439
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.480
you can see huge psygomatic arches,
a very very flat face, very

440
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:32.519
very congruent to Um the paranthropist,
which I really liked that idea about it.

441
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:34.799
Um, Clearly the thing doesn't have
a huge brain in there. It

442
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:37.960
does not have a huge brank because
most of the head seems to be taken

443
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:42.440
up by chewing structures. That's what
zygomatic arches are, that's what sagittal crests

444
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:48.039
are. They are anchoring points for
muscles. So that that gives us a

445
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:52.440
little insight into what sasquatches are doing
out there. They're chewing on big,

446
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.599
heavy things. They're they're they're eating
things that are pretty tough to chew.

447
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.039
In other words, probably bark and
the and the Cambian layer trees and you

448
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.319
know, all sorts of things that
are just kind of hard to get your

449
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.920
teeth into. You can see that
in the PG film. And so there's

450
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.359
not a lot of room left in
the cranium for the brain. And also

451
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:11.920
the way that the face is,
as I mentioned, very very flat,

452
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:18.119
and then the forehead retreats really I
think Grover Krantz noted that it retreats at

453
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:22.720
almost ninety degree angle above the brow
ridges. There's not a lot of room

454
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.519
in there for the frontal part of
the brain that makes us so human in

455
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:29.079
so many ways. But that doesn't
necessarily mean that they don't have symbolic thought,

456
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:33.680
or that they aren't strategic thinkers or
that they don't see their environment in

457
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.799
a three dimensional actually four dimensional way
like planning ahead for example, like these

458
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.599
other animals like chimpanzees and stuff too. I think that it gives us some

459
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:47.039
indication, but it isn't an end
all be all to the thinking capabilities of

460
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:48.480
sasquatches. Yeah, we don't know. I mean, it's just like an

461
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.799
engine department, dude, you get
look at a seabre the way they put

462
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:55.200
their engine in, or a Porsche
or a Chevy. I mean, it's

463
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:59.920
given you powers. It's getting the
job done of the layouts different the physical

464
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.359
lay out, So that's they got
something like that, you know. Yeah,

465
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:06.799
yeah, And I think that's the
big takeaway from this particular article about

466
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:10.920
home on a Lady, is that
small brained. Yeah, it's an indicator,

467
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:12.319
but it's not the end all bell. It doesn't tell us everything we

468
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.960
need to know about him. And
again, I think, as you mentioned,

469
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:21.799
it kind of goes towards underestimating what
the other critters are doing than critters,

470
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:25.000
I mean, any other primate,
you know, and it underestimates what

471
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:30.920
might be going on inside their brain
and perhaps maybe maybe a little less underestimating

472
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:37.880
them and perhaps overestimating ourselves. Stay
tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff

473
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:45.920
and Bobo. Will be right back
after these messages. But you know,

474
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.119
one final comment on this home and
ality thing. Lee Burger, of course

475
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:53.519
is the anthropologist, a paleo anthropologist
in charge of this whole dig, and

476
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:57.079
hats off to him, hard hats
off to him really because he's a spelunker.

477
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.119
Now. He had to lose a
lot of way to get into this

478
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.160
cage. Yeah, how's that,
man? I mean, that's that for

479
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.960
dedication. I mean you've done that, you know how that's not not easy

480
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.559
to do. Bobs and he's still
and he's still, I mean he still

481
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:15.640
got hurt trying. He forced himself
through so so determined tours, wrote in

482
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.519
her cuff and dislocated his shoulder.
I couldn't even imagine doing that, dude,

483
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.079
I know, how stressful would that
be? Just like I get a

484
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.839
little claustrophobic nowadays, you know,
Yeah, as I grow older, certain

485
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:32.799
fears pop up in me that I
didn't exist before. You know, claustrophobia

486
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.319
is one of them. You know, I look back at finding Bigfoot,

487
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.000
climbing all these trees and stuff that
you guys had me do. I don't

488
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.480
think I could do that now.
Man, this fear of heights things is

489
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:45.119
kind of taken over too. Dang, I'm a little more cautious. Yeah.

490
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:47.720
Yeah, Well I've said it before, is I don't know if I

491
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:53.519
can ever forgive Melissa for giving me
a reason to live. Yeah, before

492
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.039
I didn't give a damn you,
and I was like, yeah, I'll

493
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:57.240
do that whatever. It's a cool
way to die if I have to go.

494
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.079
You know, it's better than you
know, dining hospital with tubes up

495
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:05.160
there all my orifices if that's the
word. I'm not sure what plural of

496
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.480
orifice is, but anyway, Um, but but nowadays, like gosh,

497
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.880
darn it, there's a reason for
me to go home. Yeah, I

498
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:14.960
mean that's a good reason. And
sochi, yeah, and sochi and sochi.

499
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.720
But you know, I'm honestly Melissa
has taken the number one slot there.

500
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:21.000
So getting married though, you know, it's one of the I mean

501
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.720
I'm already married. Of course,
hobbies doesn't say you are. Yeah,

502
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.480
I gotta do it again, can't
can't get married too much? Yeah,

503
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:30.119
yeah, no, but um,
Melissa and I are married, but yeah,

504
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.319
that reminds me, um bobo didn't
you almost get married once to some

505
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:38.440
Tahitian woman? Oh yeah, yeah, we're done Tahiti. Yeah so you

506
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.480
got you did almostly. I've heard
stories of this, but I'd like to

507
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.759
hear it straight from your mouth,
and I think this is a good opportunity

508
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:50.400
for a bobo story time. Well, yeah, around it, bobo story

509
00:32:52.039 --> 00:33:00.599
dude, He's see some things,
classic everything. He's going a kid yell

510
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:10.519
for one skin. It's bulbo story. Any description of felonious or criminal activity.

511
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:14.279
It's being told here strictly for entertainment
purposes, and is in no way

512
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.400
admission of guilt or even true for
that matter. Yeah, I almost did

513
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:22.319
get married inadvertently down Tahiti. We
were down there in eighty six for the

514
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:27.279
World Championships. Out your canoes like
Polynesian canoes like Hawaii five. Oh and

515
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:30.079
uh they're like six man candee and
six man canoes and we had one man's

516
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:34.880
and twelve mans like double hold canoes. So we were down there racing.

517
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:37.680
It was it was rad and uh
we were staying there. We had to

518
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.279
staying in a village. We were
just staying in empty school because it's so

519
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:46.039
expensive down there. We just like
We're just laying on like little paths and

520
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:50.160
just you know, just had a
sheet because it's so warm, and it

521
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.680
just it was it was chilling.
But we lived with the villagers. We

522
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:57.480
weren't near to the church areas,
and uh, every day we'd go down

523
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.680
like we were like celebrities there,
our candoes into heat. He's like,

524
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:06.160
it's like football, basketball, and
baseball bicks together here. It's like ninety

525
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:09.960
plus percent of the population is active, the participating member of a commune club

526
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.480
like the old people like, you
know, help it's a big deal.

527
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.599
It's like their whole cultures. How
they lived. It was life or death

528
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:20.119
if you had a canoe or not, you know, to fish and go

529
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:24.559
island to island and all that.
So we're down there and I'd go to

530
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:28.360
this one, I'd help. I'd
help the women pulling the nets. Every

531
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.679
day they'd set up these saying nets. You know, they'd swim out and

532
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.480
then swim around, and we'd all
pull them up on the beach. And

533
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.320
they talked to me, and I
just laugh and smile, and I don't

534
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.840
know what the hell they were saying, and they didn't know what I was

535
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.360
saying. But we just point and
laugh and make you know, hand gestures

536
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:50.199
or whatever. And they'd always like
they'd always like bring this one little chevy

537
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.840
girls. She was like five foot
tall and just a little butterball, big

538
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.960
smile, like super friendly. So
every day that I was do you know,

539
00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:58.840
for like a couple of weeks,
they'd be like, you know,

540
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:00.760
I'd be talking to and they and
they'd bring, you know, always pushed

541
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:02.679
a little bit in front of like, oh, good morning, how are

542
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.480
you? And I knew how to
say that kind of stuff at that point,

543
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.800
and they'd say things to me and
ask me questions and I'd go yeah,

544
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:15.360
yeah, yeah, yeah. Well
I didn't find out until later because

545
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.920
we were getting ready we were going
to go over to Marea, another island

546
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:27.360
off Tahiti, and uh, the
chief of the village pulled my passport,

547
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:31.599
wouldn't give it back because apparently I
had agreed because when we brought in a

548
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:37.679
translator. It was actually Marlon Brando's
son. Really yeah, he was our

549
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.719
translator, and uh, he came, he came over and he was just

550
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.760
like he just starts laughing and laughing
and pointing at me and the points at

551
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:47.960
the girl and he goes, you're
engaged He's like, you've been telling them

552
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.480
all the last couple of weeks you're
gonna marry her? Like why I No,

553
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:54.320
I just been saying good morning and
stuff like. He's like, no,

554
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:58.280
dude, they've been they said,
they've gone over the plants multiple times

555
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:02.480
and you keep it green. I
was like, no way. Then the

556
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.920
old ladies talking with mom, and
it was the mom and the grandma and

557
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.199
the little girl that's who was there
every day. Those three would come up

558
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:13.760
to me, usually the mom and
grandma first one. They'd call the little

559
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.400
girl over and you know, I
was just like I wasn't thinking anything like

560
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:19.920
that. And then I was like
what, no, No, I was

561
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.000
just trying to be polite, and
he goes, well, you agreed,

562
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.559
like the chiefs holding you to it, you're not leaving. They're not gonna

563
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:29.599
let you leave. And I was
like whoa dude, Like this is not

564
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:34.079
good. Some of the men came
over then her, like grandpa and dad

565
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.519
and novels thinking over and like I
was real popular in the in the village,

566
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.280
like they all loved me, but
they were all like going, like

567
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:45.360
you you're not leaving. Then they
came up and the grandpa and the dad

568
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.239
and some u thles. They were
like, going, well, you like

569
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.920
to surf, you know, because
you know they know I served, and

570
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:54.039
so I was like yeah. So
they they said, well, we're gonna

571
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:59.800
you get five acres because the natives
can just go and take empty if there's

572
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:01.960
some where there's nothing built, they
can go and claim five acres and build

573
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:06.039
a house on it it's there,
or build a shack whatever, like a

574
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.840
different homesteading Act sort of thing.
Yeah, exactly. And so there's a

575
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:15.000
spot Hipedia is this left reef break
that is like a world class search spots,

576
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:16.039
one of the famous sport. I
mean, everyone knows about Chopu,

577
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:22.199
but there's another spot on another island
that's real popular too. And they're like,

578
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:23.480
you can have five acres of beach
front. And they hid me up

579
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:29.880
with this half French, half Tahitian
guy that had an electric he was an

580
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:34.760
electrician, he had one of the
only electrician businesses into the islands, and

581
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.519
he's all, yeah, he's gonna
he agreed to hire you. And I

582
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.800
started thinking like maybe I could get
married, you know, un surf.

583
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:46.440
And I was like, I was
it was like having five acres of a

584
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:52.880
tropical search spot would have been pretty
epic. But so then they said,

585
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:54.480
yeah, well you get to go
over to HIPPEDI and you can check it

586
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.280
out. They wanted me to go
over there with the family, a couple

587
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.519
of family members, and I was
like, man, this is not happening.

588
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:05.880
So we got done with the racings. The racing season was over,

589
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.840
and so the World Championships was done, and we had we still had like

590
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:14.199
a I don't know, like a
week to go or something. So we're

591
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:15.239
just like, oh, let's let's
go out to Moray, you know,

592
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.880
and take the ferry over there,
and and everyone else flew over there.

593
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.159
But then I wasn't allowed to leave. I didn't have my passport. So

594
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:27.000
I ended up talking to some guys, got a chipped on the on the

595
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.440
freighter that brings supplies because we were
dialed in with the locals like dude,

596
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:34.199
we were like dude, we were
like rock stars down there to them.

597
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.360
So we ended up going there that
we sneak in a club mad like the

598
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.239
the guys that all the security,
local guys like knew who we were,

599
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.880
say this let was sneaking a clubbed
and like he didn't need any didn't even

600
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.039
just eat and drink and so we're
just partying it up. So we were

601
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.880
just trying to find like single girls
that we could look up with it we'd

602
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.199
have a place to stay. And
so I ended up eating these girls from

603
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:58.679
Missouri. Their their family on the
biggest bank in private bank in Missouri or

604
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:02.199
whatever the like the three states around
there or whatever. And so they had

605
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:07.039
tons of money and they had like
a big suitets and so being there's two

606
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.119
sisters that me and my buddy crash
over there, and then they gave us

607
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:14.960
like a bunch of their points like
drink ticket stuff like whatever, like to

608
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.559
get these shells or beads whatever,
these beads, and so we were we

609
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.960
were just like partying down and then
they had an arm wrestling and beer drinking

610
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:27.239
contents like slam beer and then do
an arm wrestle and well that has Bobo

611
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.840
written all over it right there.
Yeah, we were just uh in there

612
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:37.039
and uh being another guy Kevin accidentally
like injured the guys that we were we

613
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:42.440
were going against. And uh,
this one dude, he was he was

614
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:45.320
totally buffed and he was like a
he was an Asian guy. He was

615
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:47.199
he was Philippino. I remember his
mom was Filippino was Dad was English.

616
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:51.239
He was real tall, but he
had like real thin bone structure like,

617
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:53.440
and he was so buff. He
built up way too much muscless. What

618
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:57.440
the doctor said later, it was
he built up way too much muscle for

619
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.239
his skeletal frame. He was just
he was. He was. He was

620
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:07.360
a paddler with us, and so
like they said, go, he went

621
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:13.800
full bore. And there was two
teams racing and his arm, dude,

622
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.280
like it sounded like a gunshot went
off. I just froze. It's it's

623
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:22.280
just it was just crack it saw
like a thirty odd six. And he

624
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:24.280
faced he was dark. He was
a real dark skinned like you know,

625
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:29.960
he was real tan, dark skin. And he literally was the first time

626
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.079
I seen someone turned white like that, like just turned like all of like,

627
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:37.159
just like a second, his face
turned white. He lets out this

628
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:42.159
horrific scream and all of a sudden, his arm like let go his arm.

629
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:46.760
It h what had happened was the
bone, so the humorous was snapped

630
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:51.880
in half and well it was snapped
cleaned through in two different spots. Then

631
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:55.639
his muscles just flung his arm up
like behind his twisted up behind his back

632
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:59.599
and his hand slapped him in the
back of his the back of his hand

633
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:04.639
slapped back of his head, and
then he just fainted and dropped. But

634
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:07.760
the other guy that got hurt wasn't
with us, like he wasn't one of

635
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:13.840
us, and his elbow snapped.
Where you get Tommy John surgery that uh,

636
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:19.039
you snapped the elbow tendon ligament.
That guy's arm snapped too, And

637
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.480
then so they were like, oh, so they grabbed me and the other

638
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:28.440
guy that we're arm wrestling, and
they brought us into the offices to fill

639
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.920
out pit work for the insurance,
like okay, who are you guys?

640
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:32.440
What room are you in it?
We were like giving fake answers like what

641
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.119
and then they started realizing we weren't
from there, and they called it They

642
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:42.039
had some French guys like security working
inside, like they were the Tahitian guys

643
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.000
that there was. There was a
few French the French owned clubbed, so

644
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.760
it was like guys from France that
spoke French. They were they all speak

645
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.840
French there. But so they were
like they put us under arrest and put

646
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:57.360
us in this room and then they
locked it all up and it was like

647
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.119
a really nice room. It was
like a plantation was like plantation style,

648
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:05.320
and it was just this beautiful,
like well decorated room, like nice hardwood,

649
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:09.079
like teak furniture and wow. So
even even the jail club med is

650
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:15.159
nice. It was it was the
it was the it was the manager's office

651
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:16.920
or whoever it was, like the
head person of the whole place's office.

652
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:20.880
They brought us in there because we
were filling out they wanted us to.

653
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.039
It was like a midnight or one
in the morning, so it was they

654
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.920
locked us in. And part of
the locking thing was like they had those

655
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:31.119
storm shutter windows. You don't,
like those hurricane shutters or storm shutters,

656
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:36.360
yeah, fuller, So like they
just had like a little lock on them.

657
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:40.239
So we just went up and broke
it down and jumped out the windows

658
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.039
and so we escaped. We were
like wanted, we were like they were

659
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.719
looking for us. So the locals
helped us get off the island, just

660
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:52.920
took the barge back. That took
a little little mission, and so then

661
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.519
I had to go back and then
I was trying to get my passport to

662
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:59.199
get out of there. So we
went back and then we ended up.

663
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:01.360
Jack can't remember exactly how I got
my pack, I got my passport back.

664
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:05.880
Oh yeah, I agreed to marry
her, but I was gonna go

665
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:09.280
home and get more money and bring
my parents back in flatbacks. I left

666
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.159
like I couldn't go back, but
I could go back. Now it's been

667
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:17.559
like thirty years whatever, but almost
forty Jesus thirty seven years. So anyways,

668
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.199
yeah, so I agreed to all
this stuff, and they were like

669
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.239
they had a party for me before
I left, you know, like cooked

670
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:30.119
up a pig and all this,
and so I was he said, yeah,

671
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.519
I will be back. I can't
wait to be part of the family.

672
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:36.039
My parents are gonna love all of
you. And I'm gonna go back

673
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:38.039
and get go to the bank and
get more money and come back. And

674
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:44.599
so I left, and then I
actually had some mail corresponse, like they

675
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:46.920
had like someone right for him,
like translate it. It's like where are

676
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:50.920
you? You know, you promised
us and you know, guilt tripped me.

677
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:52.719
And then they were like send me
that kind of threatening letters and if

678
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.480
I ever come back, they're gonna
take care of me in a not a

679
00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:00.440
good way. Stay tuned for more
Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

680
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:10.159
We'll be right back. After these
messages, you ended up not marrying this

681
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.639
woman. I wonder where she is
now. You get tired. Moulton supposed

682
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.880
she kept in touch. Yeah.
Then so when I got I finally got

683
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:20.880
my passport and I barely made it
for our flight because we had a chartered

684
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.920
plane. Well, because we didn't
drink dude from January first until the Championships

685
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:30.079
at the end of July, like
we weren't. We couldn't have one beer

686
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.760
the whole time. So we we
did do the whole Nationals, like the

687
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.519
whole team, the US guys,
we none of us drank a beer the

688
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:39.559
whole time. So when we got
done with the racing, we just started

689
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:45.360
partying like hard. So on the
way back, we had a chartered seven

690
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:51.280
forty seven and I was I was
getting pretty met. Another guy went up

691
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:53.880
and still the well, we we
charted the back half of the plane.

692
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.239
The front half was like normal people, like regular people, and like the

693
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.599
first class. I went to first
class dude and just grabbed the cart and

694
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:04.840
just ran back when it rolled it
back, running back into the into the

695
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:09.239
coach section where we were just started. I just started throwing handfuls of mini

696
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:13.679
bottles to everybody. And throwing out
beers and you know, caused a full

697
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:17.320
scene. And then then I started
a dogpile, jumping on this one guy,

698
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:22.360
like going dogpile, and like I
ended up breaking three seats in a

699
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.199
row. Probably couldn't get away with
that nowadays, no, dude. Then

700
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:30.480
they ended up they ended up taking
me and they were gonna they were gonna

701
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.159
divert the plane to Hawaiian and Hawaiian
have me and like about five or six

702
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.960
other guys arrested. And uh yeah, we were we were housed, man,

703
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.960
We were just three sheets to the
wind. And then so they ended

704
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.159
up putting those jump seats at the
steartus to sit in looking backwards. They

705
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:52.199
strapped me into one of those and
put on some little cheesy hand like cinch

706
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.199
tie thing, and I had to
sit and if I got out of out

707
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.280
of my seat, I was they
were going to divert the plane and have

708
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.079
me arrested in Hawaii. So I
had to sit there and like everyone's throwing

709
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:06.199
stuff at me the whole time and
heckling me, and he deserved it.

710
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.039
Oh, I totally did remind me
to go in front of you in line

711
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:14.760
if we ever got through customs together. Again. Do you remember coming out

712
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:20.280
of China, mouney Maker. That
was he throws his carry on case up

713
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:24.920
there and it's just filled like night
vision thermal imagers. Oh that was in

714
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:29.320
Dubai. Man, it was both. It was China and it was China

715
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.400
and Dubai. I just remember like
in Dubai where they pulled him over,

716
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:37.599
so to speak, and we're upset
about all the technology he had and and

717
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.119
then you thought it was a good
idea to snap a picture and the flash

718
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:43.679
went off. Yeah, oh man, that was that was kind of scary.

719
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:49.000
Man, they got they got chapped. The China part was that took

720
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.199
way longer. That was like a
thirty five forty five minute They hit mouney

721
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.599
Maker through that one, and he
kept going like I had a television star,

722
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.400
an international telenosion started like what He's
like, I looked for year in

723
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:01.760
big but Yeddie. And then they're
like because they didn't really speak English,

724
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:06.639
those guys they're like soldiers or whatever, like and I you're they're trying to

725
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:10.599
explain, like I'm just watching them
trying to explain, like you know it

726
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:15.000
it's all fresh people thinking the talks
like that was just one of the funniest

727
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.159
things. We had trouble getting the
batteries out, the lithium batteries for the

728
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:23.119
cameras, so Adam Vosky almost had
to stay in China with those because they're

729
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:25.840
so expensive, and that that we
had our time getting them out, even

730
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:30.039
though we got them in UM.
But that was a complication. And then

731
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:31.920
of course you and I thought it
was a good we were flying first class

732
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:36.840
and I wasn't used to first class. I still am not, but we've

733
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:39.360
got to fly first class over there, which is cool. But part of

734
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:44.960
the deal with first classes at these
lounges you can go into and there's free

735
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:49.519
food, and there's free drinks,
and there's places you can shower. I

736
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.559
mean, there's private there's there's it's
weird, you know, it's how the

737
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.960
other half lives. But you and
I went in the lounge and we're thinking,

738
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:00.559
oh, or our poor producer friends
have to fly code for all the

739
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.400
way back. So we just thought
we thought it was a good idea to

740
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:06.880
put a bunch of free beer in
our backpacks UM, and we're going to

741
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.119
distribute them amongst the production so they
didn't have to pay for a couple of

742
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:13.159
beers. On the way back since
we got all this this free beer and

743
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:16.000
then you and I had backpacks just
full of beer cans, and of course

744
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:19.719
they decided to search us on the
on the way back in the plane,

745
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.440
and they were just bummed and disappointed. I mean, the I don't know

746
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:28.199
what the Chinese equivalent of TSA is, but they looked at us in a

747
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:32.320
very disapproving manner um. And I
know in my backpack I had thirteen beers.

748
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:37.360
Yeah, yeah, so that they
weren't very happy with us leaving China.

749
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.079
They're probably happy that we're leaving,
but it was a little sketchy man

750
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:44.480
because they could pull you over and
keep you for practically nothing there. Yeah,

751
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:49.119
it was they, you know,
like like Discovery. They laded to

752
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:52.280
me like five times before, like
the week before we left, Like I

753
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:57.280
got calls from like Keith and Margie
and whoever else, like the leg like

754
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:01.880
us, like legal department going like
Bubba, you have to keep it,

755
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:07.199
like you they are so worried about
getting like doing something like get thrown in

756
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.320
jail down there. They just kept
warning like we don't have the pull down

757
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:14.039
it like we do other places.
You are on your own. If you

758
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.000
get busted or something we can't get. Yeah, and we got what we

759
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:19.119
got there. You could you could
tell that was the case. That was

760
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:21.960
the case once we got there.
Yeah, we always had those people with

761
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:23.679
us and stuff. They were clearly
like FEDS, you know, like Chinese

762
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.159
federal agents of some sort, keeping
an eye on what we're doing and all

763
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.119
that sort of stuff. It's kind
of weird such such levels of paranoia for

764
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.719
such a harmless thing like a big
Foot TV show. Right, well,

765
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.280
Bob, that's quite a story.
I'm a little sad that you didn't get

766
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.199
married. You narrowly escaped that one. But how would your life be different?

767
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:44.800
Man? You'd be living into some
beachfront, probably with a woman you

768
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.559
had fallen in love with over the
years, surfing a lot, fifteen kids,

769
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:52.639
dying of skin cancer. Yeah,
dude, I almost died down into

770
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:57.639
heati on our races. Just one
race. One of the races we did

771
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:00.880
was you start off at Poppy Edit, the big harbor on Tahita, the

772
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:05.639
main island. Then you cross the
channel. It's like I think it was

773
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.639
like seventeen miles or fifteen miles or
something. Then you cross the channel to

774
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:14.079
morea circle. The whole island of
Morea and then back across the channel.

775
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:17.239
Think it was like sixty something miles
and we were about halfway into it.

776
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.440
And it's called a nine man raus. It's six minutes through the boat at

777
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.679
once. And then you have escort
boats, so they go in front of

778
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:30.800
you escort boat, and then three
guys will jump in the water and they

779
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:34.159
space themselves up in a road line
up straight, and then you pull up

780
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.440
the canoe. As you pull next
to him, you drop your paddle in

781
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:39.280
the canoe and you roll out the
other side so they can climb in.

782
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:45.280
They can climb a board. We
had spray skirts like a like a you

783
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:49.480
know, like a kayaks. They
put that like fabric over the openings.

784
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.039
Then it since it's running the ways, there's no water getting in the kayak.

785
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:53.960
Okay, yeah, we had those
in the canoe. So there was

786
00:50:54.000 --> 00:51:00.360
like six six openings with like a
draw stream with an elastic chord, and

787
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.599
we were on the we were uh
yeah, I think we're at Captain Cook

788
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:07.599
Bay actually um off Marea, and
it's real tricky. We were trying to

789
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:12.559
kind of inside the course and we
ended up hitting the reef and splitting a

790
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:17.960
big hole in the canoe bottom and
we uh started sinking and my coach said,

791
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:21.679
I said, I felt I felt
good. So I wasn't getting out.

792
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:22.880
I was like, I'm staying in, Like I could pal it for

793
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.320
a long time. I could.
I could, you know, do thirty

794
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:30.639
miles or or whatever. No problem. So I was like, I'm just

795
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.719
gonna tie myself into the get this
sat skate spray skirt on tight so there's

796
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.039
not water, because we were having
tons of it was rough. There's a

797
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.599
lot of water coming over the boat. So I sitched it up. Really,

798
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:44.280
I sitched it up tight, and
I was strapped into the boat and

799
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.519
I couldn't get out. And then
we hit that reef and then we just

800
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:52.760
started sinking fast and we were people
are trying to bail and like within real

801
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:57.239
fast, I mean like ten seconds, we were underwater and we landed on

802
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:00.239
the reef and my head was about
two feet of the surface, three people

803
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:04.320
the surface at the most. Like
my hand I could tep, my fingertips

804
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.079
could break the water, but I
was tied in with these knot like and

805
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.119
I nodded that spray skirt around me. I couldn't get out. I was

806
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.360
tied in and I didn't get that
good of a breath before I went under.

807
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.079
As you were sitting locked in the
locked in the boat, like just

808
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:23.079
sitting there and looking down. There's
all these black tip resharts all over us,

809
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:27.360
like all around us, like hundreds
of them. But they're they're not

810
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:31.159
that bad. But um, I
just remember like fumbling and fumbling. Couldn't

811
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:34.519
get it. Couldn't get it because
I achieve my figuring nats I didn't have

812
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.960
figured nats were untied the thing as
you were like just calmly like going,

813
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:43.880
I'm gonna die if I'm gonna start
swallowing water right now if I don't just

814
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:49.719
calm down and do this properly.
So I did. I slowed down and

815
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:53.400
just untied it and got to the
surface just just as I was starting to

816
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:58.079
swallow water like breathe water. So
it's kind of a kind of sketchy,

817
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.519
as like they they they're trying to
get a knife off the escort boat.

818
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:05.480
The escort boat couldn't get close to
us though because of the the reefs.

819
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:08.599
So it's like like there's nothing anyone
can do. It sounds like you shouldn't

820
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:13.400
go to Tahiti anymore. Having them
back, Yeah, I can see why,

821
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.880
man, I'm good back. The
place was awesome, so beautiful.

822
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:21.639
It's like if you go like the
best like tropical fish tank you've ever seen.

823
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.119
There's millions of those fish and they're
giant. They're like like waving you've

824
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:30.280
ever seen in captivity, Like they're
everywhere. It's so awesome, sounds like

825
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:32.960
a wonderful place. End up almost
dying and getting married and all sorts of

826
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.639
other things. Accidentally getting married.
Yeah, nothing wrong with getting married,

827
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:43.360
of course, but accidentally I don't
know, man, agreeing to get married,

828
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:45.280
not knowing you're agreeing. Well,
you know, Bobo, we've already

829
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.000
gone over time. We barely touched
any of the topics, unfortunately, but

830
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.559
we do have a members episode we're
going to record right now for you know,

831
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.280
just of our just our members.
And of course, if if you're

832
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:59.599
interested in becoming a member of big
Foot and Beyond and being part of our

833
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.800
Beyond big Foot and Beyond team,
discord the website or clicked the show links

834
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:07.440
down below and follow the membership sort
of things, and it's basically a little

835
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:09.800
bit of it's a subscription sort of
thing, and you get an extra forty

836
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:13.679
five minutes or an hour of Cliff
and Bobo every single week, just in

837
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:15.000
case you can't get enough of us. I don't know, a lot of

838
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:17.519
people seem to enjoy it. I
get a lot of good feedback. We

839
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:21.639
really, really, deeper, deeply
appreciate everybody who support us like that as

840
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:23.320
well. By the way, so
thank you very much for out there listening

841
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:28.119
and for our members. Yeah,
I guess people really liked my last Bobo

842
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:32.320
storytime on the Patreon pays the Flying
Incident. I guess people love that one.

843
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:36.639
Well. Yeah, I mean there's
certain Bobo story times that are suitable

844
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:40.280
for the regular episode and certain other
Bobo story times that are only suitable for

845
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:45.599
our members who definitely, definitely,
definitely want to be there. And so

846
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:52.320
yeah, I've gotten all sorts of
comments and emails about that particular event clash.

847
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.800
I'm not sure what to call it
except for an amazing Bobo story time,

848
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.480
but anyway, Yeah, so if
you're interested in checking that out,

849
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:01.760
just follow the show notes below there's
going to be linked down there, or

850
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:06.360
go to the website Bigfoot Beyond podcast
dot com and then follow the links to

851
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:08.920
the membership section. And that's what
Bob and I are gonna go do.

852
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:12.800
Right now, So Bob's why don't
you sign us off and we'll jump onto

853
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:16.079
the members episode. All right,
follow sent for joinas again. Sorry to

854
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:20.800
get too much Bigfoot related stuff go
on this one, but next week,

855
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:30.679
next week. But until next week, y'all keep it squatchy. Thanks for

856
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:34.760
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857
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