WEBVTT 1 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:24.719 Well, here we are. How are you doing? Welcome to twenty twenty 2 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:29.519 four. We're in a new year, a new cycle. I was looking 3 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:35.119 at my horoscope, but I follow the sidarial, which is the Hindu form 4 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:40.600 of astrology. If you do a search for Hindu astrology and you know what 5 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:44.600 your sign is when you were born and what your sign is, it tends 6 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:49.200 to be a little more accurate. And I got that it's gonna be a 7 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:52.759 good year for virgo. I'm a virgo. And also I happen to be, 8 00:00:52.920 --> 00:01:00.799 in Chinese astrology a fire monkey, and it's gonna be a good for 9 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:06.079 fire monkey. So that's good news. I will say this though, if 10 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:11.719 you've been wanting or considering tending any of my tours that we're doing this year. 11 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:17.280 We got Egypt in April twenty eight through May ninth. We got Turkey 12 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:23.040 August fourteenth of twenty fourth, and then we have Mexico in early November. 13 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.200 This is probably the last year I'm gonna do. I'm gonna skip twenty twenty 14 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:32.760 five and concentrate on writing. It takes a lot of energy to build up 15 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:38.000 to these tours, so that should be a fire. If you're under you, 16 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:42.599 if you're interested in touring, and the tours are fabulous, but there 17 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:49.879 are very time consuming, energy consuming I have to do. For Egypt, 18 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:57.120 I have to do advanced interviews and editing and dealing with graphics and posting and 19 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:01.120 things like that, and it's just I'm gonna take a break. So although 20 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:07.520 I'll miss Egypt, i'll miss Turkey. In twenty twenty five. I'm still 21 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:14.560 questioning Mexico because it's so close. It's only a few hours to get across 22 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:17.840 the border into Mexico, So I don't know if I'm gonna cancel that for 23 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:22.680 twenty twenty five. But if you want to come with me this year, 24 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:27.439 go to Earthacients dot com, forward slash Tours, check it out. And 25 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:31.599 that's a consideration. Other than that, I'm looking forward to this year, 26 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:38.479 and not that twenty twenty three was bad. Actually it was okay. I 27 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:43.599 just feel, as i'm talking to you right now, invigorated. I have 28 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:46.479 a new producer, Gail Tour. By the way, kudos to Gail, 29 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:53.759 she is wonderful and on top of things, I'm continually growing the podcast. 30 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:59.639 And by the way, in April this year we are celebrating ten years on 31 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:04.960 the internet. Earth Ancients has been around ten years. Can you believe it? 32 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:10.479 We launched April May twenty fourteen. Where was I and I lost it 33 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:15.479 in Oakland, California, not too far away from where I am here. 34 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:21.479 But I mean, I've interviewed people around the world and it's been fun and 35 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:25.159 it's been it's grown, you know. Occasionally get a letter from somebody who 36 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:31.560 go, hey, Cliff, I caught your early podcast and you've really changed. 37 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:37.120 Your voice has changed, and your attitude's changed, and your and your 38 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:44.120 style has changed too, and that's nice to hear. And occasionally we do 39 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:50.080 earth ancient special edition in the archives and we'll pull a recording from twenty fourteen, 40 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.599 twenty fifteen, twenty sixties, those very very early years. I was 41 00:03:54.960 --> 00:04:00.360 on a different network, had different equipment. It wasn't necessarily that good. 42 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:05.479 Sometimes I would do an interview using iPhone EarPods, which are in the mic 43 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:11.560 attached to that. Those are, oh my god, They're terrible. And 44 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:13.560 you can hear it. You can hear it in the recording, you can 45 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:17.319 hear it in the poor editing, you can hear it on another number of 46 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:24.720 different levels. So I'm all about change and so constantly reinventing myself. You're 47 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:30.240 gonna hear some format changes on the show, and it's just about tightening things 48 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:36.000 up and getting it out to a wider audience. So some people have asked 49 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:42.120 me to extend the show another hour. I can't do that. I just 50 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:46.600 I don't think people want to hear two three hours. I'm not Joe Rogan, 51 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:48.040 who can just sit and talk for two or three hours. And I 52 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:55.839 mean, really, I'm all about expediency, condensing and getting the most out 53 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:59.879 of sixty minutes. Now. I have to say this. When I have 54 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:05.000 certain guests who are long winded, we won't name names, you gotta let 55 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:11.920 them roll, you gotta let them get it out. And some interviews I've 56 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:18.680 done, I've maybe delivered six to seven and maybe even eight questions and the 57 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:25.879 guest will go on for each like fifteen minutes per question. So that's the 58 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:29.240 show right there. So and I let it roll, and I know you 59 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:34.160 can hear it, and hopefully you don't mind. I have another side of 60 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:38.959 listeners who want me to tighten it up and get into like the thirty to 61 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:44.079 forty five minutes timeframe. I will never go there. I just can't. 62 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.399 I don't feel comfortable. I want to know more about each of my authors, 63 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.079 each of my guests, each of the scientists who are on here. 64 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:55.560 Thirty to forty five minutes is a waste of their time. It's a waste 65 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:59.560 of your time, because I would think that you want to hear more about 66 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:03.879 what's going on about these people, and so I think sixty to ninety minutes 67 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:09.519 is a good time frame. Ninety minutes is going to be rare in twenty 68 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:13.120 twenty four. Most of these podcast recordings, these interviews are going to be 69 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:17.839 sixty minutes with the interview breaks. So I'm looking forward to twenty twenty four. 70 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:25.240 We have a stellar lineup, and we're also growing on social media. 71 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:28.720 We just crossed over. We have two social media pages. We have the 72 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:35.240 International Group page, which has just crossed over seventy two thousand people, and 73 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:40.720 then there's another site. It's the it's kind of the fan page for Earth 74 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:46.000 Ancients, and that's where I have hardcore students, scientists and those of you 75 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:49.360 who really want to drill down. And that's where we post most of the 76 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:55.519 galleries from interviews, and I try to do what I call show notes or 77 00:06:55.560 --> 00:07:00.360 podcast notes on each guest that we have, because they'll refer to some and 78 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:03.680 they'll have or an excerpt from a book or a graph or an illustration, 79 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:09.879 and I post those so that you the listener can see exactly what we're talking 80 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:15.199 about. Now, given that information, I want to remind you that we 81 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:21.240 do have a YouTube page and it's Earth Ancients Official. On YouTube. Just 82 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:26.600 type in Earth Agents and then the word official and you'll see it. It 83 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:32.160 was launched about less than a year ago and the company's based in London and 84 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:39.399 they are coming up to speed on posting some of these interviews from the last 85 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:45.000 four or five months. Graham Hancock's on there. And I have a problem 86 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:49.000 with YouTube because they edit and they'll take you down. And I was just 87 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:55.600 given a warning the other day that the portion of Graham Hancock's interview where he's 88 00:07:55.600 --> 00:08:03.240 talking about using DMT and the legality of it is an infringement, so that 89 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:07.639 may be taken out. But that's the reason I mean. I'm posting on 90 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:11.480 YouTube because I want a wide audience of people. Some people really like to 91 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:18.439 see the authors speak and give answers. I'm not a fan because they're becoming 92 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:26.199 a problem and you'll hear about it from others, but I will keep posting 93 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:33.559 on YouTube. We do video, we do zoom and the images captured and 94 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:35.879 you can see it there. So if you want to see the last few 95 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:43.240 weeks, go to Earth Ancients Official on YouTube and you'll see all the details. 96 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:48.279 I mean, I like the visual part, but YouTube police is too 97 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:56.200 much. They really do and oh it's kind of a problem. So today 98 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:01.559 we have the return of Stephen Schwartz and he is presenting remote viewing for the 99 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:07.639 coming year twenty twenty four and the future. And I gotta say that, 100 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:13.080 because this is a political year, the interview gets into the politics, but 101 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:18.360 it's not like this person's bad, that person's bad. Is actually more focused 102 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:26.960 on the humanity of the parties and breaks this down is in an area I 103 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:30.799 kind of agree with because when I used to talk about candidates or people in 104 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:35.039 office, I would get in trouble from you and from others. And Stephen 105 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:43.600 has broken it down into blue states and red states and his analysis, which 106 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:50.759 by the way, is on his free newsletter, the Schwartz Report dot org. 107 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:56.799 Check it out. The Schwartz Report is free and he uses remote viewing 108 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:05.120 but also specific analysis on how people are surviving in the United States. Is 109 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:11.879 United States specific and it doesn't look good for Red states simply because they're kind 110 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:20.000 of taking basic rights away from people and clamping down almost in a I mean, 111 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:24.720 it's almost like a pre Civil war kind of a situations kind of challenging. 112 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:30.039 And I have a lot of listeners in red state areas, red state 113 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:35.039 portions of the United States, and I have close friends, I have relatives 114 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:41.720 in red states, and there's just a lot of change going on right now. 115 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:48.679 And we're a united country. We're supposed to be the United States. 116 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:56.720 Everyone gets freedom, everyone gets access to healthcare, everyone gets access to literature, 117 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:58.879 and so forth, and so on, and the list goes on and 118 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:05.759 on or not. So listen along to this interview, and when he says 119 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:13.759 red states and blue states, you'll hear him describing the issues revolving around this. 120 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:18.440 And I will say this. You will not hear me talk about specific 121 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.720 candidates, but you're gonna hear me start using this terminology as we get into 122 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:30.679 the previews of the elections. I'm marry and then the general election, and 123 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.240 I like the blue state red state scenario. And you know, people have 124 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.759 you know, supposed to be well meaning. These people who are in office 125 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:46.159 well meaning, well come on it's not well meaning. And of course I'm 126 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:50.480 a Northern Californian. I'm a California kid born and raised. I have, 127 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:52.480 Like I said, I've been around, I've lived in different parts of the 128 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:58.600 country, I've come back here. So I'm a Democrat, and of course 129 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:05.919 I'm a LIB and it's short for liberal. But for me, it's not 130 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:11.279 so much a party line. It's more what people are getting as a citizen 131 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:16.600 of the United States. What does that mean? What did the founders of 132 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:24.240 our country the Constitution right into law? And how is that being manipulated today? 133 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:30.080 So those are kind of some of the questions. So today's program is 134 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:35.879 with Stephen Schwartz, and it's remote viewing twenty twenty four and the future. 135 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.120 As the year comes to an end and we're talking the end of twenty twenty 136 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.279 three, We're going to take a look at what were some of the trends, 137 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:35.279 what were some of the activities, What are we actually focused on as 138 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:41.159 a species, and why and how are we evolving. My returning guest is 139 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:46.080 Stephen Schwartz, who is a scientist, who's a futurist. He's an author 140 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:52.799 and he is the editor of a fascinating daily blog called the Schwartz Report, 141 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:58.360 which I highly recommend. So I also want to mention that he is part 142 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:03.639 of a consortium of remote viewers and we're going to get a look also at 143 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:09.759 twenty fifty and twenty sixty. These are two different projects that he launched a 144 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:13.480 few years ago, and he is able to give us a sense of where 145 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:18.840 we're headed as a species, what our society might look like, and some 146 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:24.559 future predictions. So a pleasure to join you, Cliff, given what we 147 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:33.000 have been through this year twenty twenty three, and if we can start looking 148 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:37.759 at what is expected. Twenty twenty four is an election year and a lot 149 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:43.120 of things are coming to a head, simply because our politicians are moving and 150 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:48.559 shaking to solidify the votes. And we don't want to get into politics too 151 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:54.480 much. But what would you say we can expect economically right now? Our 152 00:14:54.519 --> 00:15:01.639 administration has very positive numbers for the economy. But what do you feel is 153 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:07.480 the possible outcome for the next year. Well, I think just as you 154 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:16.000 say, and as you know, ideal only in objectively verifiable facts. I 155 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:24.039 don't care about political partisanship except anthropologically, the way you'd study a tribe or 156 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:28.000 a cult. So I don't care about that. What I care about is 157 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:35.039 fostering well being and things which foster or don't foster well being that can be 158 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:41.360 objectively measured. So I think twenty four. Of course, it's going to 159 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:46.720 depend how the election comes out. Biden has actually done pretty well economically. 160 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:54.039 Inflation is down, cost of many things is down. We still have a 161 00:15:54.120 --> 00:16:00.759 problem because most people don't really see this, and the reason that they don't 162 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:07.279 is that things like inflation rate they don't really see that as part of their 163 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.159 lives. It is, but that's not how they see it. What they 164 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:15.679 see is how much it costs to buy ahead of lettuce or a gallon of 165 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:23.720 gas, or to go to the movies or something. So if Biden wins, 166 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:32.600 I think that the economy will continue to do better. I think we 167 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:41.080 will see an increase in hourly wages, particularly in red states. They're already 168 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:45.399 very different. I mean, few people know. For instance, the average 169 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:52.720 hourly wage in Texas is seven to twenty five. In Washington State it's sixteen 170 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:57.440 oh two, so it's more than double. So where you live. If 171 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:04.480 you live in a red state, you're getting paid per hour much less than 172 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:11.160 if you live in a blue state, and so if Biden wins the election, 173 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:18.920 then that's going to continue. If Trump wins the election, I mean 174 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:25.160 personally, I will say I can't imagine how a man with ninety one indictments 175 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:32.119 and a long such a long list of criminality could possibly be the choice. 176 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:41.559 But Christo fascism is a very significant issue in the United States, and so 177 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:47.400 it's just it is not clear to me who's going to win. I certainly 178 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:55.480 hope it's Biden. Biden's problem is he just isn't very charismatic. And Trump 179 00:17:56.519 --> 00:18:02.359 may be a criminal, but he's quite charismatic. So that's the real problem 180 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:07.160 is that people, you know, they see Biden is too old. But 181 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:10.599 the fact is he and Trump. I mean, what there's two years difference 182 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:12.960 or something. So I mean, if one of them's too old, they're 183 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:19.759 both too old. It's that Trump is much more charismatic, and also he 184 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:30.039 speaks to the hates and resentments the racism that's present in the country. So 185 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.079 if he wins, I think we're going to have well, first of all, 186 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:38.720 we're going to stop being a democracy, will become what it's called an 187 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:47.000 anocracy. That's it appears like a democracy, but in fact it's controlled by 188 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:56.359 a small group, so we'll become an inocracy, and the experiment of democracy, 189 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:02.599 which has lasted for over two centuries, is to come to an end. 190 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:11.960 So I am extremely concerned that Americans really realize what fosters well being for 191 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:18.960 them. That's what I look at look for. I mean, in terms 192 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:25.640 of the remote viewers, I know that between twenty forty and twenty forty five 193 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:30.400 we're going to go through some kind of cataclysmic change. In that five year 194 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:40.480 period, they describe the United States as continuing to exist, but that real 195 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:47.279 power has devolved to the states and groups of states now for instances. That's 196 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:53.079 the remote viewers. Now of what we know from factual, objectively testable data 197 00:19:53.880 --> 00:20:02.359 is on the In March, the Republicans are going that people in Texas are 198 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:07.759 going to vote whether they will succeed from the Union. Yeah, I've been 199 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:15.200 reading abous. Yeah. Texas is a unique state in that for about ten 200 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:19.319 years, not quite ten years, after they broke away from Mexico, they 201 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:26.279 were a separate country, the Republic of Mexico, and so from March of 202 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:33.319 eighteen thirty six until February of eighteen forty six, they were a separate country. 203 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.960 And when they wrote their constitution, they wrote into it that the citizens 204 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:45.799 of Texas had the right to secede if they didn't like what was going on. 205 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:53.759 So we're going to find out just how big this chrysto fascist minority, 206 00:20:53.960 --> 00:21:00.720 or if it's really a minority in Texas, and we may actually see a 207 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:07.759 state try to succeed secede. So and then there are other parts like Idaho, 208 00:21:08.319 --> 00:21:12.000 where there are a number of counties that would like to break away and 209 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:18.759 form their own state. So in twenty four we may see some very dramatic 210 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:30.559 changes in the political structure. I want to move on stepanto the environment. 211 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:37.440 This has been one for me, and we've had serious climate alterations around the 212 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:45.039 world, and I'm curious in terms of climate change or environmental change, what 213 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.920 is on the front for the next year, and if you can move into 214 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:55.000 perhaps the next few years, what you feel and what you see through the 215 00:21:55.039 --> 00:22:00.039 remote viewers that you work with for the world. Well, one of the 216 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:06.920 first things a cliff that when I began doing the twenty fifty project, I've 217 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:11.319 been doing it for forty five years now, So in nineteen seventy eight, 218 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:18.119 when I began the twenty fifty project. I had two big concerns. One 219 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:23.680 was where we going to have a nuclear war? Because I had been a 220 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:33.160 member of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Secretary of Defense Study Group on Innovation Technology 221 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:37.160 in the Future, and I had held the same position in the Smithsonian Institution 222 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:45.880 Discussion Group on Innovation Technology in the Future. And I had the number of 223 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:52.000 high classifications because I was the special Assistant to the Chief of Naval Operations. 224 00:22:52.400 --> 00:23:00.440 So I was pretty concerned. I'm almost sure that we were likely to have 225 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:10.960 a nuclear war, not just by intention, but possibly by mistake. And 226 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.720 in fact, although very few people know this, were it not for one 227 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:23.160 Soviet colonel Stanislav Petrov, we would have had a nuclear war. He just 228 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:29.319 wouldn't push the buttons. And by the time they sent a troop out to 229 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:37.480 arresting, they found out that what was originally thought by the Soviets this is 230 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:45.079 the Russians, but the Soviet Union period, they thought there were incoming American 231 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:53.160 missiles, and so they ordered the officers who controlled the missiles to fire them 232 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:59.519 back, and he wouldn't do it. And by the time they got to 233 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:06.480 arrest they realized that there was a malfunction in their computer radar system, and 234 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:11.160 that there were no American missiles. So that's how close we got to an 235 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:17.519 accident. Wow. And the other thing that I was interested in because I 236 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:27.519 had begun to read about it in very obscure scientific papers, was about climate 237 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:36.160 change. Because I couldn't imagine climate change. I just didn't make any sense 238 00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:38.480 to me. I didn't know, I didn't understand what it meant. But 239 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:47.440 what happened was I interviewed for the fifty project about four thousand people all over 240 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:53.119 the world, not just Americans. But what really set me off was my 241 00:24:53.319 --> 00:25:00.359 lab at that time was in Los Angeles, the Mobius Lab, and I 242 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:04.359 was getting people to remote view the year twenty fifty on the same day. 243 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:10.440 So if it was the twenty eighth of December, I would say, go 244 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:15.799 forward in time to the twenty eighth December twenty fifty and tell me what you 245 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:22.160 see. Anyhow, in one case, I was down in Santa Monica and 246 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:27.559 I asked the person that I was interviewing, you know, what does it 247 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:30.880 look like, what's going on? And he said, well, large part 248 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:37.440 of Santa Monica is underwater, and so is Manhattan Beach and Hermosa Beach and 249 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:47.640 Newport Beach, all the coastal areas they're underwater. And I thought, why 250 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:51.440 in the world would they be underwater. I went to a friend of mine 251 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:56.480 who was one of the leading climatologists in the United States, and I said 252 00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:02.440 to him, can you tell me why I keep getting these because that wasn't 253 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:07.640 the first one. Why I keep getting these stories about the coasts of California 254 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:17.839 And in other countries Bangladesh for instance, India, Japan, France, anyway, 255 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:21.680 a whole bunch of countries where I had done these interviews. I said, 256 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:25.519 so many of these people on the coastal areas talk to me about the 257 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:32.759 coastal area being underwater. Now, why would it be underwater? And this 258 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:40.519 was before climate change was really generally even discussed in the science community. I 259 00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:45.599 mean, it really didn't get started until ninety one with an article that was 260 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:52.079 published in the American Scientist. Anyway, And my friend said, and we'll 261 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.119 leave him nameless because I don't want to embarrass him. He said, that's 262 00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:03.559 just nonsense, you know, world, you that's just crazy. There's no 263 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.559 reason that it should be underwater. You just you know, remote viewing, 264 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:14.119 it's just you can't trust it. And I said, well, so far 265 00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:18.519 it's beginning to look pretty accurate, and you said, well, then I 266 00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:22.039 don't know what it is. But then, as I said in ninety one, 267 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.240 the first paper that I saw, which was actually about ice coring, 268 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:33.319 but which dealt with climate change, was in nineteen ninety one, and subsequently 269 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:40.279 more and more papers about this. And now if you do a Google on 270 00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:48.359 you know what will be the situation where you live in twenty fifty or twenty 271 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.079 sixty. What you see is large parts of the country are going to be 272 00:27:52.119 --> 00:28:00.119 underwater, about half of Florida, the outer banks of North Carolina, Norfolk, 273 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:04.960 Virginia Beach, Philadelphia, Washington, d c. The projections are that 274 00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:11.799 we're going to see a significant sea rise. And the other thing that the 275 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:18.599 remote viewers talked about was that there were also parts of the country in which 276 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.920 water there was not enough water. It was a huge problem. And again 277 00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:29.319 I couldn't make any sense out of that. Why would that be a problem. 278 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:33.720 But if you look, for instance, at the Colorado River, seven 279 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:40.960 states depend on the Colorado, what you see is it's drying up, Lake 280 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:48.720 Mead, Lake pal the Great Salt Lake disappearing. The Mississippi River is drying 281 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:57.599 up. So I think also the remote viewers more of the twenty sixties than 282 00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:03.960 the twenty fifties. But both they talked to me about three big migrations. 283 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:14.359 One migration was away from the coasts because of sea rise, and as I 284 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:17.000 said, you can already see that happening. I mean, for instance, 285 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.920 in Florida, the insurance companies who pay very close attention to this, you 286 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:30.440 can't get home insurance or only at an exorbitant price, because the insurance companies 287 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:34.799 are leaving Florida because they don't want to ensure they're because of climate change anyway, 288 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:45.920 So sea rise causing migration away from that southwestern United States, migration out 289 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:52.200 of those states because not enough water, and because the temperature gets too high. 290 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:59.839 And again you look at Phoenix, they're talking about one hundred and fourteen 291 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:07.039 degree temperature for a number of days in the year, particularly in the summer. 292 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.440 That was actually my next question, and the severity of the temperature changes. 293 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.599 I think you're just mentioning Arizona. They had a whole month of triple 294 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:21.559 digit heat that was on record never before having that. Is that something that 295 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:26.160 we can look forward to in the coming Yes, Okay, We're going to 296 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:36.880 see significant temperature rise and not enough water migration out of the Southwest, migration 297 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:45.160 out of the Central States because of cataclysmic weather events like tornadoes that destroy whole 298 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:53.400 towns. And that's already going on too. I spoke at a medical conference 299 00:30:53.400 --> 00:31:00.920 in Oklahoma, and I said to They had a dinner afterwards, and I 300 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:06.000 was seated next to a I don't know, a county commissioner or something like 301 00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:08.279 that, and I said, well, what do you all think about climate 302 00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:12.160 change? And he said, I don't believe in it. It's just a 303 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:19.799 misinformation being provided by the Democrats, which I thought was a rather bizarre answer. 304 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.599 I said, well, then what are you concerned with? He said, 305 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.599 well, what I'm concerned with is how many times do you rebuild a 306 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:36.960 town? And I said, I don't understand. He said, well, 307 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.720 we have a town. It's been destroyed by tornadoes twice, and so the 308 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:47.799 question is how many times do you rebuild a town? And I said, 309 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.720 and you don't see that as climate change? And no, no, no, 310 00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:57.000 nothing, It's just variations in the weather. So we're going to see 311 00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:05.599 three these three big migrations for which we're completely unprepared. I was speaking at 312 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:13.079 another conference, again a medical conference, and I said to these doctors who 313 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:17.039 had asked me about climate change, I said, what would you do if 314 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:23.759 five thousand diabetics showed up in your town? Where would they get their insulin? 315 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:30.200 And who would treat them? And after I spoke, the group of 316 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:34.799 these doctors came up to me and said, we couldn't possibly cope with that. 317 00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.039 I said, well, where would these people go to the bathroom? 318 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:44.240 Where would they sleep? And they said, we have no idea, We 319 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:49.279 have not made any preparation to deal with things like that. And I said, 320 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.799 well, you know, you asked me to talk about the future, 321 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:59.559 I would begin preparing for that because that's what's going to happen, And in 322 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:04.680 fact, that is what's happening. So what we're going to see with climate 323 00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:12.359 change is really radically different environment. It's also going to have a big effect 324 00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:20.400 on the breakdown of the what I call the matrix of consciousness, all the 325 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:29.200 thought the ecosystems of the earth, as things go extinct or have to adapt. 326 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:37.839 And another thing that I think we're going to see is more pandemics. 327 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.599 That's another thing that was first brought up to me by the remote viewers. 328 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.240 And I said, well, you know, what's healthcare look like in the 329 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:52.519 twenty fifty and they said, well, there's been a series of pandemics and 330 00:33:52.079 --> 00:34:00.319 I immediately thought, you know, nineteen eighteen Spanish flu. I mean, 331 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:05.279 that's the only thing I could think of, polio. I remembered polio. 332 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:12.840 And they said, well, no, it's not those, it's that it's 333 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:17.440 just things that we don't know anything about, and that's going to kill millions 334 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:22.039 of people. And I said, really, when will the first one start? 335 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.800 And they said, well, the first one will be a blood disease 336 00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:31.639 that crosses over from primates to humans in Africa, and it's going to come 337 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.719 to the United States and in the world. It's going to kill millions of 338 00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:42.000 people. And of course that's aide and it killed thirty five million people, 339 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:51.440 and then tars and H five n one, Ebola, and of course COVID 340 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:58.880 and which it's killed over a million people. And also the other thing you 341 00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:06.719 can see clearly in COVID is the inferiority of the healthcare in the Red States. 342 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:12.519 And I think that's going to get worse. We are already beginning to 343 00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:19.400 see medical deserts form A medical desert is an area where you can't get healthcare. 344 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:27.400 The Dobbs decision has had a huge effect in the Red States on women. 345 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:32.960 So it's to such a degree that we basically have two levels of healthcare 346 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:40.280 now in the United States, particularly in the Red States, women cannot get 347 00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:47.840 an abortion a B because of the threats of these laws that have been passed. 348 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:54.079 The obgyns are leaving. Now. You look at a city, for 349 00:35:54.119 --> 00:36:00.679 instance, like Sandy Point, Idaho, they only have one hospitality of about 350 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:06.400 nine or ten thousand people, they only have one hospital and about oh it's 351 00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:12.480 about seven months now, the only hospital in the city announced they would no 352 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:20.000 longer give obstetrical care, and as a result of that, the obgyns left. 353 00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:25.840 So if you're a woman in that part of Idaho. So, I 354 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:31.559 mean, what's happening is in the Red States, particularly, the quality of 355 00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:39.800 health care for women is going down very significantly. We already have the worst 356 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:46.760 maternal mortality rate in the developed world by orders of magnitude by the way. 357 00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:51.679 I mean, it's not a little difference, it's a great, big difference. 358 00:36:52.119 --> 00:37:00.159 We have the worst infant mortality. So if again, if you're you're 359 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:05.920 a woman or you're a child in the United States. In some states you 360 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:10.159 just don't have very good healthcare right now, what I see in the future 361 00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:21.320 is that from talking to the remote viewers is that healthcare has changed very significantly. 362 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:30.480 Genetic engineering is one of the big reasons. And again what the remote 363 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:37.679 viewers described for twenty fifty and twenty sixty is you can now see that happening. 364 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:42.480 You look at the crisper technology that's going on, the genetic engineering, 365 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:47.599 that's the gene splicing technology. Yeah, gene splicing, gene manipulation, right, 366 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.639 and what you see is that's going on. Now there's another part of 367 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:58.920 this that I actually find quite scary. It's going on at the moment, 368 00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:05.079 principally in Asia, in China, and that is the creation of a new 369 00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:13.039 species of human being. I call them Homo superior. These are genetically manipulated 370 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.239 children. You know, you want to have a child that's as smart as 371 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:23.840 Einstein, that' says athletic as I don't know, Michael Jordan, and is 372 00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:30.800 attractive as you know, name your favorite movie star. And that's going to 373 00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:36.480 happen. And it's going to happen principally with wealthy people, particularly when it 374 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:39.280 comes to the United States. With wealthy people. But let me just stop 375 00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:45.519 over a minute, Stefan, that has to be done. That's in vitro, 376 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:52.400 right, So or are they manipulating the ovum or the sperm to create 377 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:57.559 a super race. Well, it's to create a super race, and they're 378 00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.960 doing both. And it isn't clearly yet which is going to become the best 379 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:06.440 way to do it. But what is clear is that, as I say, 380 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:16.400 particularly in China and other Asian countries, but it's starting here in the 381 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:22.239 United States. And that is all these very rich people because of the United 382 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:28.760 States, you know, we basically are controlled by an oligarchy. I mean, 383 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:32.119 you've got four people who have as much money as forty eight percent of 384 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:39.559 the population. The tax codes are entirely written to favor the rich. We 385 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:47.840 have become a country with the worst wealth inequality in the world. I mean, 386 00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:53.880 America is a country in very deep trouble. And I get that very 387 00:39:53.920 --> 00:40:00.719 clearly, not only from doing the Schwartz Report every day and the podcast every 388 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.599 week. I call them every month, you know, That's what I do. 389 00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:09.360 I study these social outcome data and again I'm only interested in facts. 390 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:15.000 I'm not interested in the political philosophies and what you see is, for instance, 391 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:21.639 with the Homo superior, is that the very wealthy is going to be 392 00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:25.119 very expensive. And we don't really have healthcare in the United States. We 393 00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:32.480 have an illness profit system. We also have the worst healthcare system in the 394 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:39.599 developed world. So it's going to be too expensive for average people to do 395 00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:45.800 it. But what's going to happen is very wealthy people will, as the 396 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:50.920 technology develops, will want to have as I said, children as smart as 397 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:57.159 Ienstein, as athletic as Michael Jordan, and as handsome or pretty as whatever 398 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:01.119 movies star are they like, and they'll pay to have that done. And 399 00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:10.039 then what happens when you have a community of Homo superiors, what's going to 400 00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:15.800 happen to the Homo sapiens. They're going to become a kind of peasant class. 401 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:25.079 They're going to become well, I got kind of slaves in a way. 402 00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:30.760 Yeah, I hear you say. Is the Homo superior a fixation or 403 00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:37.360 in place by twenty fifty or is it more like twenty sixty, roughly thirty 404 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:43.719 six years from now? Is it more well developed? Yes, it starts 405 00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:52.159 in the twenty forties and by the twenty fifties it's further along. By the 406 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:59.480 twenty sixties, it has become a significant issue. Okay, so let me 407 00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:04.559 stop you real quickly. There I wanted to interject is the poor man's version 408 00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:12.880 of that Elon Musk's neurallink, where he is using technology and implanting it in 409 00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.519 the brain, and this is the kind of a quick fix to get smarter, 410 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:21.960 to have more intuition. We don't actually know because they're at the very 411 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.840 early stages of that. But what you're feeling on the neurallink, well, 412 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:36.800 I think the neurallink is a part of this impulse to create Homo superior. 413 00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:40.079 This is the way he's approaching it. I don't think this is the way 414 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:46.119 that it's going to really take off. It's going to take off through crisper 415 00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:54.800 and it'll be gene lining, so the children who have been manipulated, their 416 00:42:54.880 --> 00:43:02.199 children will also have the same benefits, and it's going to start spreading. 417 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:12.880 But my concern is because already my concern is the United States is really controlled 418 00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:21.000 as a result of the Citizens United decision by the Supreme Court which legalized bribery. 419 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:30.800 What you've got is a small group of people who are using their money 420 00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:38.760 to rent Congress people or Supreme Court justices. I mean, look at Clarence 421 00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:45.159 Thomas for instance, how much more corrupt could he be? And do you 422 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:52.000 think that these people who take him on these fabulous vacations and you know, 423 00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:57.639 buy his mother's house and let her live there for free, do you think 424 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.119 if they ask him to look at something, he's not going to do it. 425 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:07.360 Look at his wife, who made huge sums of money getting involved in 426 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:13.880 the insurrection, do you think that that's not influencing his legal decisions? Or 427 00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:22.519 the other justices, and you'll notice it's all the conservative justices because again facts, 428 00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:30.960 the group of people who are particularly giving way to this, cooperating with 429 00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:42.400 it, participating in it, are these the maggot crowd, because they want 430 00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:49.039 to be able to be the powerful people. They want to be able to 431 00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.760 be the ones who make the decisions. So this schism that I call it 432 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:59.760 the Great Schism trend, we are becoming two countries in a single nation. 433 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:10.519 And by the twenty five period that may be part of what happens that we 434 00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:16.400 really settle on this. And it's going to be very interesting to watch what 435 00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:23.280 happens. In this Texas poll that's our vote that's going to take place in 436 00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:29.159 March. Yeah, but the succession issue has been up in the air for 437 00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:34.679 years. They've helped do it a number of times. And I think I 438 00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:39.440 read somewhere that their federal funding is so huge that they would be a third 439 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:45.559 world country that is decided to go off on their own. Because that is 440 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:52.639 correct. A third of the Texas budget comes from federal funds. So if 441 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:58.239 they were to secede, yes, they would become a third world country. 442 00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.400 In many ways, they are a third world country. I mean if you 443 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:07.119 look at medical care in large parts of Texas, you look at their educational 444 00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:15.480 level, you look at what they're doing about healthcare. I mean, you 445 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:21.480 go on and on. It's not a state, not a state I would 446 00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:24.760 like to live in, and particularly if you were a woman. So yes, 447 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:30.000 what we're going to see, I believe, and I'm doing this research 448 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.599 right now. I'm going to write a book on this. Is that these 449 00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:43.039 when I was asking the remote viewers, I didn't know enough to ask certain 450 00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:47.079 kinds of questions. So I'm going to have to get another I'm going to 451 00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:53.239 have to do yet another group. I did four twenty fifties and I've done 452 00:46:53.280 --> 00:47:01.920 about twenty five hundred, twenty sixties. I'm gonna have to get because I 453 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:07.400 need There were a lot of questions now that I look at it that I 454 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.840 wish I had asked that. I just I didn't know to ask, right, 455 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.960 I mean, who had heard of climate change? Who'd heard of Homo 456 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:22.400 superior? Who'd heard of these internal migrations? I didn't expect any of that. 457 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:29.679 Nineteen seventy eight, did you expect the country to be in Trumpville? 458 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.079 I didn't, right, So I didn't. I just didn't know enough to 459 00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:38.559 ask questions. So now I'm analyzing the data in order to develop new questions. 460 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:46.440 But what I can see is that we are a very different country from 461 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:52.119 our parents and their parents, right, yes, yes, you know, 462 00:47:52.400 --> 00:48:00.039 the middle class was really created after the Second World War by Franklin Roosevelt, 463 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:10.119 and then it was followed on by Harry Harry Truman and Eisenhower, and then 464 00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:17.159 with Reagan it all began to shift. So we're going to see in the 465 00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:24.559 twenty four election whether we're going to continue as democracy. Right now, that's 466 00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:32.880 going to depend on the people that are viewing your show exactly. We're going 467 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:39.079 to take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves and we 468 00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:45.480 will return shortly with my guest today, Stephen Schwartz, working with remote viewers 469 00:48:45.480 --> 00:49:34.880 and looking into our future. We'll be right back. This program looks into 470 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:39.199 our near future and distant future through the use of remote viewing. This is 471 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:47.800 kind of like a tapping of the psychic awareness and looking into Earth's future and 472 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.159 getting a sense of where we're heading. And my guest today is Stephen Schwartz. 473 00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:59.880 All right, we've talked about the evolution of the species I'm interested in 474 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.239 and what you see, what you feel are the robots the aids to the 475 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:09.800 human species. And in the last few years there's been a number of very 476 00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:15.280 very good programs in their actual movies. Netflix just released a movie called Rebel 477 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:23.519 Moon where there's one robot called Jimmy, who actually is the voice of the 478 00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:30.320 actor Anthony Hopkins plays Jimmy, but he's a very sophisticated robot who not only 479 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:38.039 is highly intelligent but also physically able to help humankind. What do we see 480 00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:45.599 about the robots in our future? Well, I think AI is a big 481 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:53.480 issue. I don't think it's clear how it's going to go. The remote 482 00:50:53.599 --> 00:51:01.840 viewers in the future talk to me about many things are run by these highly 483 00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:12.840 intelligent AI creatures Automatron, but I didn't know enough to because I couldn't imagine. 484 00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:16.719 I just couldn't imagine it, so I didn't ask all the questions that 485 00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:20.679 I should have. As I said, I'm going to have to do another 486 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:29.360 whole group. But what AI concerns me about is the ethical standards that are 487 00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:37.559 programmed into it, because we're going to see a lot of jobs replaced by 488 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:47.880 AI. You can already see as a result of the COVID pandemic and computers 489 00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:57.880 that the interiors of the centers of a lot of big cities are going through 490 00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:04.159 a crisis. I just did a piece on Cleveland, for instance, where 491 00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:12.679 they recognized what was happening to them, and they're turning office buildings into residences 492 00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:28.119 and creating parks for the people downtown. And I'm beginning to also see skyscrapers, 493 00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:37.320 very tall buildings turned into vertical farms because of being able to grow the 494 00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:44.599 produce that they need. So cities are going to change radically. Though the 495 00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:53.000 world that the twenty sixties describe is much more It's much more like the Nordic 496 00:52:53.079 --> 00:53:04.840 countries, the architecture is minimalists. People live in smaller community ease, there's 497 00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:10.480 not as much air travel. Of something we haven't talked touched on the development 498 00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:21.079 of the hologram, so that you can create what essentially looks like the person 499 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:25.679 in your in the room with you, but it's a hologram. And so 500 00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:35.320 the holograms, which are part of the AI trend. People live in smaller 501 00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:46.760 communities, they don't travel as much. They communicate using electronics created by AI 502 00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:53.440 and holograms. So are you referring to a hologram of someone you're speaking with, 503 00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:58.760 like a match version or they might be on your okay, So a 504 00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.760 pro in the room with you, a projection of a yeah, hologram okay, 505 00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:07.039 gotcha? Now you could do You and I would be doing this interview 506 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:12.639 and it would look like we were sitting around a table, but we would 507 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:21.199 both be holograms. Right. So that's going to radically change what society is 508 00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:32.880 like. There is this very different kind of healthcare in in the Progressive States. 509 00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:43.719 I think they're going to create universal birthright healthcare what every other developed nation 510 00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:51.320 has. We don't have. The illness profits system will continue at least for 511 00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:53.679 a while. I can't tell you exactly how long, but in the Red 512 00:54:53.760 --> 00:55:04.199 States, so they're going to have very poor healthcare. So we're splitting into 513 00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:07.840 two countries. And if you look at it right now, just where we 514 00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:13.840 are in twenty twenty three, almost twenty twenty four, in a few days, 515 00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:24.320 you can already see that we have two different cultures going on, and 516 00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:34.079 they're getting more and more different. And it's not in all the ways that 517 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.079 you know you think about, Oh, it's just a technology, No it's 518 00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:45.840 not. For instance, I just give you an example. The Red States 519 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:54.400 are much more religious than the Blue States, and they're much more they emphasize 520 00:55:54.440 --> 00:56:05.480 morality more. And yet Red states have a higher level of divorce rate than 521 00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:15.440 Blue states. And Red states have out of wedlock childbirth had a much higher 522 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:24.639 frequency than Blue states. So despite all this morality. Oh and finally, 523 00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:31.639 Red states, which makes such an emphasis on marriage, actually have a much 524 00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:38.559 higher divorce rate than Blue states. So that's what I mean by different cultures. 525 00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:45.400 You know, culture is the creation of individual choices. That's what creates 526 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:51.639 a culture. That's why you watch different sports in some countries and not in 527 00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:57.760 others, or as I say, that's why the Japanese cook eggplant differently than 528 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:05.320 the Italians. Those are culture choices, individual choices which collectively create culture. 529 00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:12.480 And so what I see happening is that we are becoming two cultures, and 530 00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:19.639 that this is going to continue as far as I've been able to look twenty 531 00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:27.679 fifty twenty sixty. What I don't yet quite understand is what happens between twenty 532 00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:32.199 forty and twenty forty five. Now, part of it is this culture business. 533 00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:37.440 I thought for a while maybe it was that we got contacted by aliens 534 00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:44.719 extraterrestrials. I don't see that. I mean, that may be, but 535 00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:50.719 that's not That's not the big thing. The big thing is the change in 536 00:57:50.760 --> 00:58:01.239 the culture, the change produced by climate change. So it's not one thing. 537 00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:10.119 It's a conglomerate of things that alter the country and the living patterns in 538 00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:21.880 the country very dramatically. I try to track this every day in the short 539 00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:27.719 support the daily podcast or the podcast. I try to track this, you 540 00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:35.440 know, I read something like eighty journals a day in order to find out 541 00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:42.719 what's actually going on. Because corporate media doesn't cover most of the really important 542 00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:49.079 things that are taking place. It's podcasts like yours and others who are interested 543 00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:53.119 in these things, who ask me questions about them. I mean, you 544 00:58:53.280 --> 00:59:00.639 just don't see on the big corporate television stations. They just aren't talking about 545 00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:06.800 it right now. You know, why aren't they talking about It's another issue. 546 00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:13.760 But in any case, what I see happening is a radical transformation. 547 00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:22.519 And if I were giving advice to someone, I would say, doah, 548 00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:27.519 google and find out what happens, what is projected to happen in your area 549 00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:32.400 about climate change. So I want to I want to jump into another question 550 00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:38.119 here. So one of the things that you brought up was UFOs alien interacting 551 00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:45.199 and perhaps changing our minds, changing our outlook on life. I've had doctor 552 00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:52.320 av Lob on the program from Harvard a number of times. He is so 553 00:59:53.199 --> 01:00:01.559 unusual and so clear as to understanding his belief that we are being viewed from 554 01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:08.440 perhaps very old civilizations who are sending probes. The most famous is the Omaha 555 01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:15.159 male probe that he now believes was actually passing through our cosmos, but actually 556 01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:21.119 also inventoring the planets that are like Earth and so forth and so on. 557 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:30.360 What do you see near future and distant for either contact with civilizations or interacting 558 01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:37.599 with UAP UFOs more clearly, more substantially, rather than just them flying over 559 01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:44.320 and we look at them and they then fly off again. Yes, well, 560 01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:46.320 I think what's going on, and I think it's very clear actually, 561 01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:53.800 is that UAPs are monitoring what's going on on Earth in the same way the 562 01:00:53.880 --> 01:01:04.800 cultural anthropologists monitor what's going on with Primi tribes. That is, they're not 563 01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:09.360 intruding on us, because that would change what they were observing. I mean, 564 01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:15.920 imagine if a flying saucer landed in the lawn in front of the White 565 01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:27.760 House. I mean, right, So they're monitoring us because every culture of 566 01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:37.519 every species on every planet gets to a point where the technology either overwhelms them 567 01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:51.559 and destroys them, or they awaken and take control in a way that allows 568 01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:57.239 them to use technologies to foster well being. And we're at that place. 569 01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:05.079 I think this is true of every on every planet in the universe. There 570 01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:15.440 comes a time when your technology either takes you over or you wake up and 571 01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:24.199 you realize that all life is interconnected and interdependent, and you choose differently to 572 01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:31.559 foster well being, from the bacteria in your soil to the fish in the 573 01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:37.880 sea and the birds in the sky and everything else. And that's where we 574 01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:45.000 are. If you look at the data, you can see we are destroying 575 01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:53.440 the Earth's ecosystems, the coral reefs as an example, the melting of the 576 01:02:53.480 --> 01:03:00.880 poles as an example, the fact that it is projected that thousands of species 577 01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:07.800 are going to go extinct because of the largely because of the change in weather, 578 01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:17.400 or because of the pollutants that we put that industrial chemical agriculture is proving 579 01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:28.079 to be a mistake. That it treats the soil like a platform, not 580 01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:32.599 like a living system. And as a result of the chemicals we use, 581 01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:43.800 things like round up the glyphosates, that we kill off the bacteria, and 582 01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:49.599 that the plants don't prosper, and the insects don't prosper. And if you 583 01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:54.400 look at what's happening to the bees for instance. So we're at that place. 584 01:03:55.400 --> 01:04:02.679 We are standing at crossroads where we're either going to be destroyed by the 585 01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:10.519 things that we've done because we do not recognize that all consciousness is interdependent and 586 01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:19.000 interconnected, or we're going to awaken and we're going to make different choices and 587 01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:26.440 we're going to demand different kinds of performance. And you can see this in 588 01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:30.480 the end of the carbon era. Look at what's happening. The petroleum companies 589 01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:40.639 are pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into advertising to protect their corporations and protect 590 01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:47.559 their profits. And yet anybody that's got a IQ higher than their waste sized 591 01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:58.000 can do a Google and in a half an hour understand that petroleum products used 592 01:04:58.039 --> 01:05:06.119 in internal combustion engines are destroying the ecology. So we are at the place 593 01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:13.280 where we're making the choice, and it isn't clear yet how we choose. 594 01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:17.760 I would say that the twenty fifties twenty sixties, first of all, that 595 01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:25.960 tell me about this cataclysmic period between twenty forty twenty forty five, and then 596 01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:30.320 they say we're on the other side of it, and the world that they 597 01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:38.559 describe suggests that we finally wake up to the idea that consciousness is causal and 598 01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:44.840 fundamental in science and in life. If that's the case, then you believe 599 01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:50.800 that the current occupants of the UAPs are anthropologists and other scientists study in our 600 01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:56.800 species. What does the future look like? Twenty fifty twenty sixty, Did 601 01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:00.559 you ask any of those kind of questions? Who are the occupy? Do 602 01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:03.960 they make contact? Do we get a sense that we are part of a 603 01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:14.880 collective of a group of planets, cosmos, universe, whatever. Yes, 604 01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:21.320 in fact, I think you know, it's it's very interesting. If you 605 01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:30.239 look at the abduction literature, what you find is many stories of people being 606 01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:39.320 probed genetically, and I think what's happening is is that that is the crisper 607 01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:47.960 technology being applied. They are trying to change our species. Oh. Interesting 608 01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:53.119 in subtle ways. Yeah. Well, for instance, I did give you 609 01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:59.639 an example. Years ago, I had dinner with Arthur Kessler. Arthur Kessler 610 01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:05.360 was significant thinker author at the time. You don't hear so much about him 611 01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:11.039 now, but he was a big deal. And he said to me, 612 01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:15.199 and he wrote this up later in one of his books. I asked him 613 01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:18.880 about the same question you're asking me, and he said, well, you 614 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:30.880 know, about one hundred thousand years ago, we changed from there were several 615 01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:38.519 species at the same time, Homo sapien, Neanderthal, denisovan, and the 616 01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:43.719 Homo sapiens came out on top. And he said, I think what happened 617 01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:49.639 and you look at the stories of those periods and they talk about these contacts 618 01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:59.320 with what we would call UAPs. Well, not of the beings whose technology 619 01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:04.119 the UAP are. I think he said, this is Kessler. I think 620 01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:10.480 he said they came and manipulated us in a way that was passed down from 621 01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:18.119 generation to generation, and that that's how Homo sapien came to be the dominant 622 01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:26.920 hominid species. And I think that may be true. He may be correct, 623 01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:30.960 because if you look at this, I say, if you look at 624 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:39.000 the abduction stuff, you see all these stories about particularly women, fertile women 625 01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:44.439 being probed in the genitals. Now, why would they do that? And 626 01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:50.520 the answer I think is because they are genetically manipulating us. And you manipulate, 627 01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:57.439 you know, a relatively small group a few thousand and over the course 628 01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:03.720 of centuries. If they're change passes on to their children and their children, 629 01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:11.680 you could change the whole species. And so I think that they are watching 630 01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:16.279 us to see which way we're going to choose. But getting back to that 631 01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:26.479 point on the twenty fifty twenty sixty, were there any discussions or revelations of 632 01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:35.520 a meeting and an acknowledgement of our place within other civilized planets? No, 633 01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:43.439 okay, but that and also you have to remember it never occurred to me 634 01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:46.279 to ask the question. I'm just going to ask you that, probably because 635 01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:50.159 you're asking these like twenty years ago, right, Well, I started in 636 01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:57.479 seventy eight. From seventy eight to ninety one, I did the twenty fifty 637 01:09:58.319 --> 01:10:00.640 and to give you a sense of so, just so we're clear here, 638 01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:06.079 they predicted and it has turned out to be true, you know, because 639 01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:14.880 I told you I was concerned about nuclear war particularly, and left government and 640 01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:19.560 and so I was really really concerned about nuclear war. They said, well, 641 01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:23.600 we don't have a nuclear war. And I said, well, what 642 01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:30.520 happens to the Soviet Union? And they said it doesn't exist right yet? 643 01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:34.760 And I thought, you know what, And I went around to friends of 644 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:45.000 mine who were in the futurist and the geopolitical community and asked these people, 645 01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:47.800 you know, can you imagine? I asked these people, and they say, 646 01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:51.960 it doesn't exist. And they, to a person said to me, 647 01:10:53.600 --> 01:11:00.720 that is absolute nonsense. What do you think space people came and looking away, 648 01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:09.199 I mean, it's nonsense. And yet, of course Christmas Day nineteen 649 01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:15.319 ninety one, so the Union ceases to exist. When I said to them, 650 01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:19.640 tell me about health care, they told me what I've already said to 651 01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:28.880 you about pandemics. Right, They told me about climate change, and I 652 01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:34.000 didn't have any idea what to make of that. So a whole list of 653 01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:42.439 the things the twenty fifties told me would happen by twenty fifty are in the 654 01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:48.079 process of happening. And the same is true of the twenty sixties. When 655 01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:53.479 I look at the trends that they described, that's what I was interested in, 656 01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:59.039 trends and oh, well, I'll give you another one. The twenty 657 01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:05.279 fifties they said to me, well, you have this thing that you can 658 01:12:05.439 --> 01:12:10.399 wear on your wrist and it will allow you to talk to anybody in the 659 01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:17.119 world. Now what you know, Star Trek. I didn't buy my first 660 01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:27.159 computer till nineteen seventy eight. I only had sixteen gigabytes of memory. So 661 01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:32.720 something you carry around on you wear on your wrist like a watch, and 662 01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:36.560 it allows you to talk to anybody in the world. I mean, I 663 01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:41.840 wouldn't even at the time when they told me this, I didn't know what 664 01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:48.159 to make of that, so I didn't ask further questions. What they also 665 01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:58.079 told me was that the coming end of the internal combustion machine, and now 666 01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:05.119 the twenty sixties take that even further. And just say they're gone. They're 667 01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:11.399 just that they don't exist anymore. So it's all electric cars at that point, 668 01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:15.159 or hydrogen or water or something. Yes. Oh and the other interesting 669 01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:25.560 thing is when they told me about electric cars, yes, electric, I 670 01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:30.960 thought, and you can see it happening again a cliff. I thought, 671 01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:35.279 what would end up doing would be to go to a gas station model of 672 01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:42.800 charging. You know, you'd go to a poor station. Yeah, plug 673 01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:45.840 your car, no, what the remote viewers said, and you can see 674 01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:50.840 it happening now. Strangely enough, the latest one I've seen is in Florida, 675 01:13:51.880 --> 01:14:00.680 is that the roadways charge the cars and trucks that drive on them. 676 01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:05.079 Yeah, I saw that, and so you don't have to stop and get 677 01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:11.800 charged. So the remote viewers describe that, and it turns out it's becoming 678 01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:19.199 true. They describe this very different healthcare system. It's happening. So my 679 01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:28.520 current assessment is that the remote viewer material is eighty three percent accurate. Eighty 680 01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:34.359 three that high. Yes, well, actually, remote viewing in general that 681 01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:42.880 over the fifty sub fifty sixty years I've been doing this is always between seventy 682 01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:49.640 eight and ninety three percent accurate. Wow, I mean all the archaeology projects 683 01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:57.199 that I've done, finding the lighthouse Affaros, one of the seven Wonders of 684 01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:02.039 the Ancient World, finding one of Christopher Kale, Missus Caravels, finding the 685 01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:13.159 Brigleyander finding. I mean all of that, and I expect to see using 686 01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:19.560 multiple viewers, not everybody gets everything right. But where you look for consensus 687 01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:27.039 or for what we call low priory, something you just wouldn't think of, 688 01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:34.760 that tends to be between seventy eight and ninety three percent accurate, And my 689 01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:41.079 current calculation, as far as I can do it, of the twenty fifty 690 01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:46.359 and twenty sixty data is eighty three percent accurate. Wow, it's amazing, 691 01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:53.079 Stefan Schwartz. This has been a fun look at the previous year and what 692 01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:58.199 we can look for in the coming years. I want to ask you about 693 01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:02.000 two things that aren't typical for questions that I would ask, but I want 694 01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:08.199 to ask you anyhow can you give us sense with your remote viewers of the 695 01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:15.039 previous Homo sapien or human in the last epoch in other words, the last 696 01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:23.039 high civilization on Earth, and give us a sense of how they perceive the 697 01:16:23.079 --> 01:16:26.920 world compared to what we have Now that's not necessarily an easy question, but 698 01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:30.439 I think there's a lot of I mean, if you look at it from 699 01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:38.680 the Hindus perspective. In the Yugas, they believe that holmost sapient sapien are 700 01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:45.039 current. Current physicality has been around for millions of years. No, and 701 01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:49.479 one of the things that I'm curious about is is that there's a great deal 702 01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:58.199 of dissension among the archaeological community and individuals like Graham Hancock and myself and others 703 01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:05.279 who are saying there was a high civilization previous to us, and through uh 704 01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:16.560 terrestrial collapse and changes, that civilization was destroyed. No. I got interested 705 01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:25.680 in Atlantis because I read all the Edgarcacy material. I was one of the 706 01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:33.359 people who found the what was called the Biminy Highway. Were right. Yeah, 707 01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:44.920 along with Margaret Adams, Colonel Sanders of Kentucky Fried Chicken Fame, I 708 01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:50.600 we thought we found an Atlantean temple. No, the reason that educasy talked 709 01:17:50.600 --> 01:17:59.920 about Atlantis was because the people who asking the questions were passionately convicted, kicking 710 01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:05.199 convinced that it existed. And when you do remote viewing, the attitudes and 711 01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:15.000 expectations of the questioner have as big an effect as the impulse or intention of 712 01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:19.399 the viewer themselves. Wow, that's interesting. So that's a whole other subject 713 01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:29.720 that people, very few people understand. So then there's the whole business about 714 01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:38.039 Egypt and the raw Ta period and the Atlanteans helped build the pyramid and blah 715 01:18:38.039 --> 01:18:43.199 blah blah and all that. None of that is true. And I don't 716 01:18:43.239 --> 01:18:47.920 say that speculatively. We know who built the pyramids, we know how they 717 01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:54.479 built them. We literally know the name of the man who was the construction 718 01:18:54.680 --> 01:19:02.000 chief, and we know where he's buried. So no, the Atlanteans didn't 719 01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:15.039 build the pyramids. We know from the genetic material. Studying the genetic material, 720 01:19:17.640 --> 01:19:27.199 we know how the genetic distribution occurs. For instance, very few people 721 01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:33.079 in Asia have Neanderthal genes, but lots of people in Northern Europe do as 722 01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:45.439 an example, so we can track how the genetic changes occurred as they spread 723 01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:55.399 out across the earth. There is no evidence. I'm sorry. I know 724 01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:58.760 Graham Hancock, I don't know him very well, but we've met a couple 725 01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:06.359 of times. But it just isn't true. What's going on is what's coming 726 01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:15.479 to us, Except I do believe that Arthur Kessler, may and John Mack, 727 01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:20.600 who did all the abduction research. When I talked to John about this, 728 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:29.760 for instance, he agreed with Arthur Kessler. He said, I think 729 01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:38.439 it is entirely possible that these abduction issues are really about genetic manipulation using some 730 01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:43.920 kind of advanced crisper technology, and that what they're trying to do is to 731 01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:50.399 help us survive. That may be true. I can't disprove it. I 732 01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:58.199 can't prove it, but it makes very good sense to me. Yeah, 733 01:20:58.359 --> 01:21:05.199 I am. I think that there have in the past, long past, 734 01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:17.119 there may have been contacts with extraterrestrial civilizations. There's certainly some artwork that would 735 01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:27.239 suggest that there are some legends that would suggest that. It's not easy to 736 01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:33.520 pin down for absolute certainty, but I think it may be possible. I 737 01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:40.039 think we may have contact in the future, and not even in the very 738 01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:45.960 distant future. But I do not that that is not what I am principally 739 01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:53.159 focused on. I don't have any question that we are being watched in the 740 01:21:53.239 --> 01:22:01.800 same way that cultural anthropologists watch tribes. As I said, we are at 741 01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:08.760 best crossroads as to whether our technology is going to destroy us and the earth, 742 01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:16.000 or whether we're going to wake up and only permit things which foster well 743 01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:23.159 being. And the real issue for me is every day, you and I 744 01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:30.359 and every one of your listeners make dozens of little choices about all kinds of 745 01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:38.079 things, and the question is are we choosing to buy because that's like a 746 01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:46.000 vote to buy things from corporations which foster well being or not. I notice, 747 01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:50.520 for instance again you know I look at these trends. If you look 748 01:22:50.560 --> 01:23:00.119 at Subaru, they in their advertising are making a big deal about how much 749 01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:10.359 they support charities foundations that foster well being because they've figured it out. Now 750 01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:17.119 not every company has. But we need to make every day in our choices 751 01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:24.520 to choose only those that are compassionate, life affirming and fostering of well being. 752 01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:32.840 It's up to us because culture is created by multiple choices. So if 753 01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:40.800 I can tell your people anything, it's make choices which foster well being. 754 01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:46.520 Stefan Schwartz. It's always a pleasure, and I appreciate the time that you 755 01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:55.560 have given us to take a look at the twenty twenty three and into the 756 01:23:55.640 --> 01:24:01.640 future. I want to mention to you listeners that Define has an excellent daily 757 01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:10.800 blog called the Schwartz Report and he posts articles and compliment uh comments from around 758 01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:15.279 the world. Uh. I suggest that you take a look at that is 759 01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:18.199 it? Is it the Schwartz Report dot org or dot com, dot net, 760 01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:23.880 dot net. Okay, that's the one. Give us your uh uh 761 01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:30.920 your web address and your also your your podcast data. Okay. My personal 762 01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:34.880 website where you can see movies of my archaeological remote viewing projects by the way, 763 01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:42.800 and actually watch people do this is Stephan s t E. P h 764 01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:48.720 A n A s c h w A r t z dot com. Stephana 765 01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:55.760 Schwartz dot com. That's my personal website. You can get all my papers, 766 01:24:55.800 --> 01:25:00.680 my books, uh videos, all continents. Go to YouTube, search 767 01:25:00.760 --> 01:25:05.079 on my name. You can get all my papers. You can go to 768 01:25:06.520 --> 01:25:13.239 YouTube and search on my name and get all the videos. You can go 769 01:25:13.359 --> 01:25:24.359 to Schwartz Report podcast and get my weekly podcast. Sorry, the podcast is 770 01:25:24.840 --> 01:25:29.199 only posted on the on YouTube. Right. No, it's on all kinds. 771 01:25:29.279 --> 01:25:33.079 It's on TikTok and Spotify. Okay, good, all kinds of things. 772 01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:35.720 So you got it on the internet. Name. One that I look 773 01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:42.199 at is YouTube. Okay, excellent, you can get them. I make 774 01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:49.920 all this stuff available for free, and I encourage you because I want us 775 01:25:49.960 --> 01:25:57.319 to survive and prosper much appreciated always, it a pleasure to speak with you. 776 01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:02.079 Have a good holiday, and Happy New Year's to you. Happy New 777 01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:13.119 Year to you. You take care now. Stefan had a lot of interesting 778 01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:19.159 things to say. I am concerned personally on the environmental issue. I know 779 01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:26.079 a lot of people believe that's just humbug, but I think it's something to 780 01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:30.880 pay attention to. We have issues with water in California. We had a 781 01:26:31.039 --> 01:26:38.199 deluge of water last year, and we have reserves. I mean we're over 782 01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:45.720 I think it's like one hundred and ten percent over normal, So that's great, 783 01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:48.840 but we're having sporadic rain right now, so we may need that water 784 01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:55.960 later. The other thing about California is we grow seventy five to eighty percent 785 01:26:56.000 --> 01:27:01.039 of the fruit and a lot of the nuts that the rest of the country 786 01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:09.359 consumes, and so we need our water and we need a regular rainfall to 787 01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:16.479 replenish the soil and to water the plants, and so when we have dry 788 01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:21.159 spells, it's serious. It's a problem. So and I have a close 789 01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:26.680 friend that lives in Arizona, and he was telling me about the triple digit 790 01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:30.840 heat that they were going through this past summer. And I mean we're talking 791 01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:38.199 one twelve to one sixteen, one hundred and sixteen degrees. It's unbearable. 792 01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:41.399 I can't imagine. I was in Vegas one time for a conference. It 793 01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:44.720 was like one hundred and I will say this, it was like one hundred 794 01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:48.560 and twelve. And I didn't know it because it was dry heat. But 795 01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:55.479 when I looked up some hotel and there was a temperature gauge giving out the 796 01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:59.159 one twelve, I thought, oh my god, is it really that hot? 797 01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:04.279 And then I looked down and I had a pair of crape soul walking 798 01:28:04.359 --> 01:28:11.000 shoes and the soles were melting on the sidewalk. And it was like, 799 01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:15.079 oh my god. And that's the other thing. You don't know. It's 800 01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:19.720 that hot. I tell you. You know, you get you know, 801 01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:25.079 heat stroke or something. So I quickly got off of the road or I 802 01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:30.039 was on the sidewalk, got back to my hotel very quickly, and had 803 01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:35.920 a nice cold iced tea. So yeah, I mean, environmental concerns are 804 01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:43.640 huge for me and they may be for you too. So nothing new, 805 01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:49.000 I mean, that's something really to consider. Hey, we have Mohammed Imbraheen 806 01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:55.800 next week. He's got a brand new book out and it gets into the 807 01:28:56.439 --> 01:29:02.720 antiquity of Egypt and the Middle East. And he's got quite a few photographs 808 01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:10.720 that we'll share on the Facebook page and we'll share on the video. And 809 01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:15.079 I want to remind you that Earth Ancients is now on YouTube. The channel 810 01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:20.319 is Earth Ancient's Official. We've only got about I think maybe twenty videos that 811 01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:24.960 we have edited. I doubt that we're going to go back to the beginning. 812 01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:32.359 I think we started zoom in two thousand and twenty one. We have 813 01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:39.119 a smattering of video, so we can't go back to the beginning. Earth 814 01:29:39.159 --> 01:29:44.000 Ancients to date has about six hundred and fifty programs since twenty fourteen. So 815 01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:46.279 if you want to go back and here the very beginning, go to earthancients 816 01:29:46.319 --> 01:29:53.039 dot com and you'll see the programs and you can just simply listen to them, 817 01:29:53.039 --> 01:29:57.960 to them or whatever device you're using. It can even be your computer 818 01:29:58.039 --> 01:30:02.359 that you have speakers on. Yeah, that's those. So anyhow, looking 819 01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:08.720 forward to seeing and talking with Mohammad. And again, remember we're gonna take 820 01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:12.119 a break after twenty twenty four So this is the year to do the tours. 821 01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:21.520 We'll be in Egypt the twenty April twenty eighth through May ninth. That 822 01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:26.239 is a grant Egyptian tour, and I gotta tell you, our prices are 823 01:30:26.279 --> 01:30:30.720 half of what you normally would pay, and I wanted to mention this too. 824 01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:35.960 We are adding a couple of different temples and kind of out of the 825 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:41.279 way outdoor museums. A lot of people don't like the outdoor museums because they're 826 01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:44.760 not shaded, and when it's hot, it's really scorching out there. But 827 01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:49.880 late April early May and the weather isn't that bad. And so there's one 828 01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:55.399 magnificent museum. We're going to go to an outdoor museum. It's in Memphis, 829 01:30:56.560 --> 01:31:02.399 and it holds the Ramsey two sculpture that weighs almost eighty five tons and 830 01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:05.840 it's about forty feet tall. We're gonna see that that's a real anomaly. 831 01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:13.119 And then outside there's a whole bunch of freestanding statues that very rarely are visited 832 01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:17.920 because Memphis is off the beaten path, funny because it used to be the 833 01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:21.960 capital of Egypt in the Old Kingdom. But it's very close to Sakara and 834 01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:26.279 we spend most of the day in Sakara, and then on the way home 835 01:31:26.279 --> 01:31:30.640 we stop at this outdoor museum in Memphis. You gotta check it out. 836 01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:35.000 It's amazing. So that's one place. We're gonna also see a new interior 837 01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:43.159 crypt that has unusual writing says some strange things apparently about the ancient past. 838 01:31:43.359 --> 01:31:47.680 And then there's some museums we're gonna add too, so out some other outdoor 839 01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:51.840 museums. So and we each month we're adding, and I'm gonna keep adding 840 01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:56.960 until we make this. It already is an amazing tour, but we're gonna 841 01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:00.760 make it even better because I'm not coming back in twenty twenty. I'm taking 842 01:32:00.760 --> 01:32:06.000 a year off, So twenty twenty four is your year to come with me 843 01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:11.960 and Mohammad to Egypt. Do it because the price is going to probably go 844 01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:16.159 up by a considerable amount, probably fifteen percent if not more in twenty twenty 845 01:32:16.199 --> 01:32:23.159 six. And all the information on Egypt and Turkey. By the way, 846 01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:28.039 we're going to be in Turkey August fourteenth and twenty fourth and Mexico. Go 847 01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:31.840 to Earth Ancients dot com forward slash Tours and check it all out. If 848 01:32:31.840 --> 01:32:35.760 you have any questions on any tours or anything we're up to on Earth. 849 01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:42.560 Ancients go to Earth Ancients. The number four of the letter you at gmail 850 01:32:42.600 --> 01:32:45.760 dot com. Hey go say Cliff, what's going on here? What's happening? 851 01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:49.359 And I'll let you know. I'll get back to you quick. So 852 01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:56.479 happy New Year and the year's starting out. We're moving right along and best 853 01:32:56.520 --> 01:33:02.960 wishes to you thanks to my guests today a Stiffen Schwartz special. Thanks to 854 01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:09.640 Gail Tour, Mark Foster, and everyone who makes this thing happen. You 855 01:33:09.640 --> 01:33:13.159 guys rock all right. Take care of me well and we will talk to 856 01:33:13.199 --> 01:33:14.079 you next time.