Welcome, Welcome to Lighting the Volume. All broadcasting live from a shack on
a hill in the Mossy Creek bottoms of Kane Creek, Arkansas. This is
Lighting the Void live on the Fringe FM. It's Monday night. I usually
do music shows Monday night, so we don't do video, but it's a
special occasion. It's the only night I could get a nightstalker on because he's
such a busy dude, and we're going to talk all things. I guess
Wes Penry simulation. It's gonna be a night stalker night. We might throw
on some tunes too as well. And if you're listening live, I'll open
up the phone line soe you can call in at five oh one triple seven
fifty six thirty one. That number is always a call line. If if
I don't, if I don't pick up, then just leave a voicemail.
And I want to thank Barney for making a donation. Thank you, brother.
That was really awesome of you to do that. Man. And I've
just been busy, busy, busy, busy, busy. I gotta find
a hold on night stalker. Where are you at? Which input are you
on? Brother? You're here right you're still here. I'm here, I'm
here. Okay, you're here. Good, all right? So man,
how you been, Dude, I ain't talk to you in a long time.
That's a bit. How about your brother? I mean fine, we
talked a little bit a few weeks ago. Ro Man. Yeah, just
more the more of the same, nothing, nothing too crazy, just the
usual usual grind. But uh glad to be glad to be uh glad to
be back. Lighting up a little welcome back splip to begin the show,
and let's get into it, you know, welcome back split nice hearing the
intro and everything. It's like a little nossalga for me. We got a
busy week this week, man. We got Dave Cruiz tomorrow night. We've
got Mike Martin Wednesday night. We've got Ronnie Pontiac who Thursday night, who
was the last student of Manley P. Hall or I think one of the
last students of Manley P. Hall is going to be on the show.
So it's guests all week. So i'd but to show you how important this
was. Like I was roofing all day, all the way till dark.
I had less than an hour to get ready, hadn't ate anything all day,
jumped off the roof, had tall all over me, went into the
bathroom, just splashed water all over me. You know, ran and got
some pizza host bath. Yeah exactly, ran and got some pizza and they
came back just to just to hang out with you. Dude's thanks for It
was a tax day for me. I had a bunch of series of like
forty five minute naps, and I kept waking up and oh shit, I
gotta do this, I gotta do this, and uh, I'm gonna get
my I'm gonna get my second wind right now talking to you guys. But
yeah, yeah, here we are. Tax it's going to be back.
I'm probably a couple of years behind on taxas. I gotta be honest with
you. I don't like even messing with the government. I hate I hate
it. So I always leave it to the very last day because I don't
I don't even get mine back anyways. Mine goes to my college loans or
whatever. So I'm in no rush to ever to ever really do it.
But it's a pain in the ass. Rivers showed up river. She was
she was talking about Elier. She's like, I don't understand the American tex
system. At all. She says that meme of like like dad, like
why do I got to do my taxes? It's because of like if you
don't, they'll if like you come and get you, Well do I gotta
do it? Like do we have to do it right? Like how do
I figure it out? Well, if you don't do it right, they'll
know the like well if they know how much I owe, Like why don't?
What do I need to do it? You know, it doesn't make
any sense. It's like this crazy, weird system where there's just it just
may discrew you. You know, it's only there to like discrewer. I
really don't understand it, so I applaud you for for drifting it for the
last few years or whatever. I'm not trying to do like the Bill Cooper
thing where you know I'm against it. It's just there's so much stuff that
gets taxed that we don't know what it is. You know, we just
don't. I mean, you're you're self employed too, so it was probably
a little a little trigger. Mine mind. Couldn't be easier. Mine's the
easiest you can possibly do. You're the same same thing for the last like
fifteen years or whatever. It's enough. It's bad enough that it costs,
you know, ten dollars for a pack of cigarettes one hundred and twenty dollars
for a full tank of gas, and then they tax your dollar on top
of that. I know, man, it's bad. Bummer. I don't
want to think about it, to be honest, what are you indeed talking
about? Tomorrow? Dave is going to talk about the nephilin. I think
we're going to talk about the Nephilim and the giants and stuff. And because
days really big into that. And uh, I apologize for my green screen,
like I've I don't have professional lighting. I got dollar general bulbs in
here, so it's hard to get it to look right. Now that's cool.
I can't even be on video. I'm using for everybody listening, I'm
using my cell phone, so uh, be patient with the audio and everything.
But I just don't want to embarrass myself using the selfie camera holding it
up all show and everything. But now it looks good, it looks cool.
Experienced some kind of weird AI Michael Jackson set or something like that from
the from the Future. We're some music video. It's like it's lagging a
little bit, like something's messing with my settings on here, you know,
but whatever, man who cares? So I gotta thing I want to talk
to you about. So Michael and Michael's wife, I think her name is
Angela, they got their shirts. You guys look great in those shirts,
by the way. And then Gareth, our buddy who's we've been I want
to talk to you about this tonight night start. But he got his T
shirt. So we do ship T shirts to London, right, So if
we make five to six bucks off every T shirt you buy, so you
could donate twenty five to thirty bucks, or if you want to donate thirty
bucks, but you want something, you're still donating, right, So you're
getting a shirt, and that's how it works. But I have my pre
shirts my it's my work bag. I've got it. I've had it in
my work bag. I mean when I don't wear it, it's like I
have a sweatshirt let in for sweatshirt still on right now. Like I wear
it every day since I've since I got it, and I keep the I
keep the shirt in my work bag because like when I first caught both of
them, I was I got like in a fight with like my old boss,
or I got in trouble or something, and I feel like a sigil
protecting me in that moment. So because of that, I don't know the
shirt in my bag all the time with me at all times, every single
day, it is a sigil of protection. Man, I got like,
I got it tattooed on my arm. Bro, I'm not right on it.
Yeah, hell yeah yeahin the shirts for sure, it says I'd like,
I'd love to hit the like button. But YouTube's new using their face
got rid of it on all the live streams. That's terrible. Why they
do that. Stupid They shut out the chat everybody. YouTube is always changing
stuff, man, that's what This is why you got to have This is
why like we have to we're only like sixty five dollars away from keeping the
Fringe FM up, but we're also sixty five dollars away from it going getting
shut down. Yeah, but this is why we like keep it running because
we don't know what's gonna happen, you know, like what, it's not
that like digital radio is cool, but it really is sometimes the only platform
that we have. I'm not saying YouTube is gonna like they've been kind of
cool, with me. But then the other day they took Dan Henderson's video
down because I guess he was talking about COVID or something. I don't know,
and they just said, we're taking this down, and I'm like,
okay, well, what can you do about it? You know, yeah,
I mean I don't I don't follow the I don't have TikTok er all
the kind of stuff. And it's a it's a different thing, but there
are people who are depending, like you're having your career and your like livelihood
based on some kind of some nebulous corporation that you can't get in touch with
if you get banned, you can't get in contact with them, and it's
it's the worst process ever. And then you've been Now you have an entire
app in TikTok where people are like quitting their jobs to be TikTok influencers,
and now there's a chance they're going to like completely lose the app. And
what do they do? You know, they don't have any like friendship them
or any kind of like infrastructure like to keep this keep this stuff going,
you know, like I don't know, like it sucks. They have to
be at the whims of a corporation. Yeah. Well here's the thing too,
I'm never going to stop asking for donations. I'm never gonna stop trying
to keep this thing growing. I'm never going to stop talking about it.
So if you don't like it, you need to go, you know,
because it doesn't. It's being a listener supported. Like we get partners and
stuff every now and then, Like Mary's a partner, just bs me is
a partner. But they're small folk like us. Man, they're bumper sticker
businesses, and you know they can't really afford like major sponsorship stuff, right,
so we do what we can for them. And bumper stickers are still
cool by the way, you know. Yeah, And I mean, like,
I mean, money's tight for everybody to understand that and stuff. But
just when it goes, when it goes to like places like like this,
I mean, you know where it's going. You know, you know where
it's going. It's it's more important than like, I don't know for me,
the extra comic booker, I don't I don't even know what I'm just
I mean, it sounds cliche, but just help it bread out. You
know you can hear right now listening, he's giving me free content I mean,
help it bread out. He doesn't ask for much. You know,
I've sacrificed a lot for this station. Man, people don't know, and
I don't care to tell him because it because I don't want to be that
guy. That's like I've done all this stuff, you know, and you
just start pouting, you know, like I don't want to be that dude.
I don't like to beg steal or borrow. I don't like to do
any of that stuff. So but you know, we all need help me.
Like Night's Talker, We're going We're gonna have to do a fundraiser to
get you a freaking laptop. Bro. Oh yeah, I'll hopepefully. Maybe
maybe I can get some of my some my my state taxis backet middle you
can go to it towards it. But yeah, hopefully at some point I
can I can get in the game. But yeah, don'torry about man.
Here's the thing, here's what I wanted to talk to you about, and
then we'll throw in some music and stuff. So for the past few weeks,
I've been reading this book called Deal Ryan Books. So just hear me
out so you understand what's going on. So a friend of ours who's really
a good friend of ours. Gareth reached out and he said, look,
man, you know I'm reaching I've been diagnosed with ALS, which means I'm
reaching the end stages of my life. And I've been reading these books,
and these books have been telling me that when I die, it's just a
big trick, like my loved ones are going to be there, but it's
a big trick. Or don't go to the light. It's a big trick.
It's a trick. And I'm reading these books. So I've been reading
these books on air trying to you know, like figure it out, figure
out, you know, like if there's any truth to it at all,
just to try to help them. But after reading Jason Quit's book, I
got to say, man, like I think all these well, I don't
want to skip ahead, so let me tell you the full story of this.
So this guy is claiming like he knows a lot of stuff, but
he's that we're in this kind of simulated reality where the planet is made into
like a prison for energy, and there is an actual universe, we just
can't see it because it's kind of simulated and covered. No souls can get
in and out of the universe, and it's not really a fatherly created god.
It's a queen that's running things and from Orion. Basically it's Orion that's
running. And so they've they've made this big simulation and that Lucifer, Uriel,
and Inky are the same person and it's actually this queen's I think it's
this queen's son or step son. I forget if it's a step son or
son. And he rebelled against the queen and like, so he's it's really
just this Lucifer character that's running everything here and inside the simulation, keeping us
in this like recycling bin, you know. And I read I've been reading
this book. In this book is chalk full of great information, except for
the one hundred and fifty pages on narcissism and how the gods are narcissistic.
And then he talks about narcissism, so obviously the guy has been like tortured
by narcissists in his life or something. But I wonder what your thoughts on
something like that, because I know I could just break this whole thing down
to you and be like, what do you think? You know? I
mean, it's a complicated one, for sure. It's it's it's it's it
really when it gets down to it, it's kind of like the ultimate,
the ultimate question. It's like what do you what do you do with that
moment at that at that at that big final adventure, you know, and
I and I don't know. I've heard there's that book like the Trick by
the Late Book where I don't know, it's just kind of that cosmic bug
zapper, that thing kind of why do why do bugs going to the bug
zapper when like, what's what is it that's kind of fooling them? I
mean, does it feel good to them? Kind of like everyone kind of
says, well, at that moment, just trust your trust, your instincts,
trust your intuition, trust your gut that it'll you in that right direction.
But I'm sure moths and and like flies or something like that probably get
some kind of oh look at it, it's so beautiful. Oh it feels
so warm and nice before they get zapped to death or whatever. So yeah,
I mean, I I definitely don't know. It's it seems like a
pretty effective mechanism if you were like some kind of arconic force and this was
like you were feeding on the recycled souls of everything, and then in a
lot of ancient mythologies to ideas to escape that reincarnation soul recycling process. So
I mean, yeah, I don't. I don't know. We'll cross that
preture we get to it, but it seems to yeah, I mean yeah,
I don't know. I don't. I don't. If the question is
what are you going to do when you die go to the light, yeah,
I don't know the answering. So look at that DEBD five dollars.
Thank you for that. Appreciate the hound dog five bucks. Thank you,
Barnie, appreciate that. Thank you, thank you. That's awesome. Thank
you. So here's the thing. What he says is, and this was
the last part of the book that I read, that we get sucked into
this light tunnel. So there's holes. There's this grid that we're in,
right, and there's holes in the grid. If we go through this darker
grid that looks like it's into the unknown, that place is actually going to
take us to a rin so we don't have to reincarnate. But what what
this this character did was he took all of our love and all of this
I guess you want to say sexual energy or loose or whatever people call it,
and made this light tunnel. So the light tunnel is made out of
our love energy. So this is why people feel all this love when they
go through it. But the light tunnel is leading us back to the recycling
bin. So when we die, he's telling us we're supposed to not go
to the light and look for like a black hole or a hole in the
grid somewhere to go through. Yeah, it's good. It's scary, it's
really because if we're dealing with some kind of archonic force that's capable of building
a simulation reality, then I don't put it past them that have some kind
of crazy light bait, you know, whatever the mechanism, if it's if
it's our own lover or whatnot, Like you can't you won't be able to
trust your instincts. You won't be able to trust your intuition. Like I'm
sure when a fish like a fish could be dumb, but also if something
could smell really awesome, when there's this like fake worm or whatever in the
bobbing up and down, they might not know any better. So for us
like two, I mean, there's a whole I'd to call it like the
capital P phenomena when we're dealing with like some type of some type of phenomena
like non physical that's interacting with us all the time, seems to be feeding
on our reaction first and foremost. See, so it can get inside of
our mind and kind of like where our memories, where our thoughts, where
our emotions, like like the wolf in Little Red Riding Hood, you know,
and it's just like really, it makes it makes you not want to
do anything right, It makes you it makes you not want to do anything.
And then people there's astral beings everywhere just ready to suck your energy.
Like think about all the people that are about to like this is kind of
you know, graphic, but think about all the people that are about to
masturbate, and then all of a sudden they think, oh wait, there's
a there's a wolf here or something that's going to suck my energy. I'm
not going to enjoy this at all. And if I do, this person's
gonna take my energy. Like I kind of think this is a stile like
flat Earth. They got this ship going so much. Everybody scared to do
anything anything good in life, pleasure, fun, anything, it's all gonna
get sucked into this light tunnel, so we can't you know, like even
does it take our hugs too? Like can we hug people? You know
what I mean, Like, well, what's going on? Yeah, it's
a thing. Yeah, And what is safe I mean is that are when
they talk about keep your thoughts like positive or whatever, could even your own
into a monologue if we're kind of the power of positivity idea, if we're
kind of manifesting our own reality type of thing, if the idea being my
quantum physics is getting to this point and everything that we are manifesting reality.
So whatever realm that we're in, whatever, like if it's a prison planet,
if it's a construct, if it's a simulation or whatever, in order
to render that simulation it has to be like kind of shot through us.
We're like we're kind of the reality rendering machine. And then something the idea
of being like something got in that process. So so if like if there's
a if there's a machine, there's some kind of byproduct of that process.
So us us rendering reality kind of if creates some kind of like excess or
some kind of like byproduct that something feeds off of and they seem to like
the negative stuff better. The positive stuff doesn't. It doesn't taste as good
to them. But if they can get us really hyped up and really like
afraid of stuff and really just like oozing that sweet, sweet fear juice,
they seem they seem to like that. So the idea is to get that
machine rolling in this fear mechanism. And it just reminds me of like the
news feed reminds me of like AI and that, like we already have AI
and algorithms that are feeding on our hate clicks, like the things that you
don't like rise to the top of your feed and stuff. So we have
this these like arconic sentiences already feeding on our negative emotions. Just ramped that
up one hundred years, one thousand years, a million years, and boom
we got we got archons and stuff. And it's just like it's like,
yeah, I don't know, I'm saying lately, the reality kind of seems
like we're in this weird kind of it be trippy to think about that,
Like you never you think you've had privacy, but you've never had privacy.
I don't even I think I might be like slightly not agnostic a little bit
where it's like like because the technology aspect of it, I'm I'm kind of
big in the AI is like a demon type thing that we're not. We're
not building a sentience. We're like communicating with like building high technology and then
communicating with something that already exists. It's we're building like a high tech Wuiji
board or whatever. So it's like, if you're looking at humanity, it's
like, at what point were we not using technology? It seems like technology
and so separates us from the animals to an extent. So it's like,
what if this whole thing is some kind of prison planet or farm or a
giant machine or something like that that is just getting It's some non physical arconic
sentience getting us like neat puppet machines to build something for it, build a
body for it, build a vessel for it, which is AI, and
then like it takes our, it takes It's just like how much of our
free will is just we're just machines for something else. It's building the body
for some kind of force, that arconic force, and then when we serve
our one hundred years or seventy five years or whatever, we get sucked back
into the machine, spit out and create like we keep staying in the process.
It really it's scary. It's dark to think about it, and it's
like, that's what that's what this guy says nine Talker. He says that
lose for in all his minions can't go back to Orion. They're not allowed
to go back. The only way that they can go back is through because
we're these like creative beings, so they can use our being to go back
as different avatars that they're trying to He said that they're trying to do it
through uh nanotech and uh what else did he say? Nanotech and something else?
Something something where it'll use like they'll be like avatars using our soul energy
to go back, almost almost like some kind of super high tech biological hologram
technology type thing. It's like it's like they have to. It's like they
have to in order to exist in our in this reality, they have to
like shoot themselves through us. It's like the it's the idea that the gods
are kind of always fighting for our attention. It's like these these non physical
things in order to have power, in order to have any kind of influence
on this realm. They need our devotion, our offerings are like our rights
and that type of stuff. So and we're sounds so crazy though, it
just sounds trippy, it's all. Yeah, it really does. I don't
know, but I resonate more with the trick by the light aspect, where
it's like, I mean, whether it's Ryan or Saturn or or whatever,
like the the reincarnations, the trap you want to get out of that game.
Yeah, but the a lot of the O Ryan Lucifer Lord he's talking
about. Yeah, I think that's more like kind of sci fi stuff.
Yeah, he's flipping all of Stitching's work on its head exactly, Yeah,
exactly, and saying, well, it's not really what you think. So
Lucifer Inky, Lucifer Inky, and this archangel Uriel all the same person,
and they've been tricking us this whole time. The god that we've been worshiping,
especially in our religions, has basically been Lucifer. Especially in the Mystery
schools, they know it's Lucifer, which Lucifer like in the misde Schools,
lucifers and Lucifer is a representation of a certain type of energy. But nobody's
like worshiping that the altar of Lucifer, Like, no one's doing that in
the mystery schools that there are Satanic groups that put up statues of like bapha
Met that look nothing like the original Baphomet. They put children on it and
make it look all crazy, you know, and it's like an effigy that
they worship. But it's just this stuff is so volatile and like is that
crazy? No one can find the truth, you know exactly. I think
it's less. It's really super complicated. I have a lot of thoughts on
it, but it's not very linear. I think it's less Lucifer and Satan
and more like Saturn. I mean that it's it's something, it's something older
like, and you can take that to like the second the false Sun Saturn
theories. At one point, Saturn was kind of the dominant like God in
the sky, kind of the dark Father, the Old Father type type type
of thing. And that ties in with even like the David Ike type of
type of Saturn death matrix, time cube type, contracts, constructs and all
that type of stuff. Right, But like with narcissism, it gets super
like I have a real conspiracy paradigm with narcissism. So if you were to
like ask like Chris Knowles or like the Aon Bite guys, they would probably
say, I'm not the only ones that convince me of any of this.
Yeah, exactly, but I'm not sure. Still there's a lot of like
pro pro Christian narcissism out there, so I'm not sure if that's like I'm
My idea of it is that the Abrahamic God the Christian God. And this
is not necessarily what I believe. This is just my understanding of narcissism.
Is that the Christian Abrahamic God is the demiurge. It's the bad one and
the and the good one or the creator, the one that actually like is
the god of the entire universe, is the neutral mondad and that thing does
not interfere at all. And then the thing that we've been worshiping as as
God, as Jehovah, whatever is the is the creator of this like pocket
dimension, prison planet Earth, or whatever. So funny enough, all of
magic is based on Jehovah and Jehovah's angels and the demons that they run like.
It's a big hierarchy of lower energy spirits demons up to angels to Jehovah.
Yeah, exactly, and that the and that the monad or whatever it
is kind of that loving awareness that like Roald Dust talks about, or that
kind of that pure light, like the not the false light of the the
trick by the light orion type stuff, but like that's true light they talk
about behind behind that darkness that you look at, you gotta look for inside
that black hole, you gotta look for whatever. But it's neutral, it's
not it doesn't act on things, it doesn't have like a will of its
own. It's just it's just the totality of all of all that is.
So he calls it like, what's it? Thank you New England, Derek
Roady for the five bucks, Thank you brother, thank you? Shut U
tell ya? Uh the uh. So he's stuck on the idea that the
god that created this place is super narcissistic, which to me it kind of
makes sense because he acts like a toddler when he doesn't get his way.
I'll just not And that's kind of what narcissists do though, when they don't
get their way. They don't just punish you or say you hurt my feelings
like they torture you. Yeah, yeah, it's it's just like it's pure
pure shadow, self, pure ego. It's like the neutral Monad in order
to experience. In fact, it's like it's the it's the Monad just puts
into the Diad splits eventually into Infinity. It's the it's the neutral Monad having
to experience like infinity, like infinity. Okay, so in order to do
that, they had to split into two forces first, and those kind of
the So right now, I'm prepping. You're a Star Wars guy, right
yeah? Hell yeah? Oh yeah. So I'm not sure if he had
this conversation before back in the day, but I'm not really a huge Star
Wars guy. Like my my I was like a big I am right now,
but like, you're not a trekky man? Are you a tracking well?
So yeah, so this past year I was not I was not a
Star Wars guy. I was not a star I was not a Star Trek
Trek guy. I was like born and raised on superheroes and my power ranges
and that type of stuff, but my my parents aren't sci fi people,
so I was never really like they both both of those franchises seemed a little
old to me. I never got into the prequels when they came out for
some reason my parents took me there or whatever. So I was kind of
like, are we sure like Star Wars is good? Are we sure a
Star Trek is good? But then last year I just watched everything. I
just I had like a couple months. I just watched everything. It's wild
and just it's I have appreciation for it and everything, but my perspective on
it is different than like everyone else because everyone else is experiencing it like as
of happening and having to wait and experiencing as it's hitting the zeitcast and everything.
And I'm watching the entire forty year history in like a six month period,
and my takeaway is like, are we sure that the Force is good?
So right now I'm like watching everything again in order to form this gnostic
Star Wars thing, which I don't theory, which I don't think exists right
yet. And it's like I think both sides of the Force. I think
the Force is the demiurge, and that both sides light and dark, like
the light side thinks they're doing stuff for good, like a Christian, a
Christian warrior in the Crusades or whatever it thinks they're working for good whatever,
but the end results is blood, death and chaos on earth. But here's
the thing, bro, Like what you just said makes sense. So when
you listen to these people, they act like, oh no, we're being
tricked by religion. And I'm like, I don't think you read your books
enough sometimes, man, like Isaiah in the Book of Isaiah, he says,
I form the light and create the darkness. I form the good and
create the evil. I make all of it. Oh yeah, so how
is that? I think if you come from this place like, oh,
God is an all loving god, love light, and and it just only
love, right, then, yeah, I could see where you would feel
like you've been tricked. But it lightly states in that book, I created
both sides of this thing. Yeah to me. To me the reassurance,
to me, it's it's a neutral mondad. So it's everything. So it's
the best stuff and the worst stuff in every shade of grade in between.
And so and you're it's like a combination of destiny and free will you have
like your destiny is kind of your trajectory, kind of like your momentum based
on the choices that you're making. But free will is that under that totality,
under that the idea of infinity, it's any single reality that you want
to if you want to be a good person, and those options are available
to you. If you want to be a bad person, those options are
also available to you. It's just cause and effect. You have to understand
the effects of the causes really exactly exactly so but so, but just and
then in the moment it's tough to see, so you can do so again.
If you're like, I'm not saying again this is my beliefs, I'm
just saying, under this paradigm, if you're if you're going to live an
entire lifetime being completely pure to the to the Christian word or whatever. But
if you zoom out on the time scale and look at like a two thousand
year time period, if that those words and those things could be moving humanity
in a direction that we don't necessarily want to be, which could be like
creating AI or creating our replacement, or creating this prison planet more so building
the prison bars around us or whatever. In order to do that, you
need, like like locomotion, you need to push in a pull inhale on
next sale, you need two forces to tug, like to go to make
it and to go anywhere you mean. So with Star Wars, I'm just
using that of the meniforms make sense back around the Star Wars here it goes
it's HiT's that like in order through. I think the force is not neutral.
So when I bring this up to a Star Wars fan, and again
people don't like this because they spent their whole lives believing that they're Luke and
that the force force is God or it's like some kind of neutral Buddhist thing,
or it is whatever you make it. So I'm like, so,
what's the conversation I'm I could be happening is are we sure the force is
good? And they're always like, no, the Force isn't good, it's
it's nothing. It's whatever you make it is. The Force just is.
And it's like, no, that's not what happens though. That's not the
result of anything the force. The result is every time balance is achieved quote
unquote, balance is achieved at the end of a trilogy, when it comes
back the next time, it is way worse for the galaxy, way worse.
And what do you mean? Every time balance is achieved, it's way
worse. What do you mean that it comes back the next time? So
it's like, for a moment, there's some kind of like pieces achieved.
Oh, we took out Darth. Oh we took out Kylo, Oh,
we took out whatever, and but then the next time the Empire comes back
ten tenfold worse, with like a bigger death Star or like ten thousand ships
that are all at more powerful than the Death Star. Or it's like the
average citizens of the galaxy are struggling real bad as these like space military magicians
that are fighting amongst each other and just just blown planets up and everything.
And it's like, I think it's are there some Darth sifth lord sneaking into
the Republic right after everything is exactly I mean in the prequel trilogies, it's
literally like it's the it's the Jedis who were in the government at this point,
so it's like one sect of the government versus So there's like an openly
bad side. There's like the dark side, and then there's what we think
is the good side, but the good side. During the Clone Wars and
stuff, every single mission that they're on is from Palpatine, who's the most
powerful bad guy possible. So it's like both sides are both doing the instructions
on for the bad side, and it just it leads to But I think
it's going to happen for the series is what we're going to get a Force
wielding droid that the chosen one is not Anakin. It's not Luke, It's
not you think it's going to be like a Scenti Chi machine. It's a
it's an Ai that it's it's the Force. It's an archonic force puppeting humanity
to make a more perfect vessel for itself, which is a machine in our
case. In reality, it's Ai an archon in the Force. It's a
droid. And here's here's what I'm gonna say though, Like Force, the
Force also shows the the sexual forces, especially in the New ones. Right,
So you got the dark Sith Lord, the young guy Ben and the
goodie two shoe girl, right, and that's trying to be a Jedi or
whatever. These two forces are pulling towards each other. You know the girl's
going to Girls always go for the bad boys in reality, right, because
bad boys represent what pure masculine energy. But they can make them good.
They can put their little circle around this masculine energy and turn it into a
beautiful thing. That's what they always trying to do, right, Yeah,
These two forces are the sexual creative forces of the universe. These two forces
are the forces that cause us to achieve things, that give us desire and
will and fire. These two forces are the forces of everything. So,
whether it's power or whatever, it's all basically sexual. And I don't just
mean in the like physical mundane word of sexual. So if you look at
it like on a cosmic scale, right from bottom to top. Bottom is
anytime there's an orgasm on the earth. When love comes together and an orgasm
happens, it makes a child. It's also it's the lowest, most densest
form of experiencing God. Right then, Kundalini is when you experience the higher
force in the same fashion. It's still the sexual forces, but it's also
the same fashion when you experience it in your body in a higher way,
which is what we're supposed to do spiritually. But these two forces are at
play all the time. Think it's money and it's all the stuff, it's
not. It's these two forces all the time that are running everything you know,
and so I think that's in Star Wars for sure, for sure,
for sure. And it's so if we're experiencing it as a human, then
there's like different like I don't know if it's just if you zoom way way
way way out and you're some type of like watch your figure or archonic force
or something that experiences time or outside of time or whatever, then then like
the experience of the intermingling between the masculine and feminine energy are or like a
carrot and a stick in order to produce a new being in order to produce
a new vessel for consciousness to inhabit. Run. Okay, So my point,
the reason why I said that is when you if you put consciousness in
a machine and you take away the alpha and omega, which is the creative
forces, right only only saying sexual because it's their gender forces, right that
that pull they pull together and they push apart. They pull together and they
push apart. That's energy, Like I said, I mean, you know,
I agree. So if if you put that, let's say you put
consciousness in a machine, those two natural forces start to become less. It's
like taking the force out of the equation. I think it will manifest in
a way that we don't recognize right now that that there will be like for
for us, it's like a for humanity, it's like a sexual energy,
it's like a million of female but for a black hole it's just open and
closed, or for ampute, for machine in a different way that makes sense.
It's it's it's it's ones and zeros and stuff. It's it's like and
for sure, like like the story is being told, like even Lucas themselves
says the Star Wars is being told through the narrator of like R two mostly.
So that's why it's in binary. That's why it's it's it's always the
like the the interaction between these opposing forces the whole time, because that was
how a machine would tell it in ones and zeros and light and dark and
stuff in this very little intermediary space whatever. But I think it's like it's
not just being told by a droid. It's gonna it's the droid story,
and that like under a neutral monad paradigm that like, I don't know,
it's it gets it gets real tricky, like in order it was just yeah,
I don't know, in order for yeah, there's a machine will be
a more perfect vessel for an iconic force to acts will on the universe,
or even just a neutral monad to experience reality. Already, it's already in
the workings, man, I mean, if it wanted to, it's already
in the workings, New England dirt Road. He says, is it possible
for a male to retent? I guess is what you're saying, ejaculate or
he retains the seed and sends the energy up the spine to the crown.
Yeah, that's TNTRA. But you don't have to do it yourself, honestly.
I mean, you could do that yourself, but if you want to
get into the mysteries of TNTRA, it's better to do it. Whether if
you're a guy, it's better to do with a female partner, honestly,
Like is that you don't you just it's kind of like never ending for play,
but you do it with love. You have to open your heart all
the way. It's a question, a question. So that's kind of the
idea behind don't have sex if you're a boxer before fight because kind of because
it builds up, Yeah, exactly, It's not like it's not like women
weaken legs, but you're at your peak energy. Yeah. So also kind
of also with the gnostic stuff a little bit, like people who point it
look at the results of the Christian Church, look at what so specifically the
Catholic Church, and look at the priests and the pedophiles and stuff. And
one argument is that because they're not allowed to have sex or even masturbate,
that it like warps their brain. And like, I mean, obviously a
lot of guys can relate to the fact that like, dude, yeah,
I like your thoughts, your thoughts after you come versus beforehand. Are you're
gonna make different decisions before and after? So it's like where's the line.
I mean, we're your girl will tell you that's the truth, but it
seems to be a more immediate thing for like for us a little bit.
But like but why don't you cuddle and you're like you just turn into a
different person and you smoke right, Well I'm done. Thanks. Yeah,
it's like where's the line. Where's the line between like retention and gaining superpowers
versus like warping your brain? And like yeah, see that's the thing is
like there's a whole practice to like open up these energy centers, this whole
TNTRA thing, and then to feel the energy between masculine and feminine. But
the thing is is you have to be able to like you don't have to
open your heart. You can strictly do it from the sexual centers, but
it's blocking everything else. Right, So if you can really and this is
what I think, if there's a sign up going on, for sure,
it's to close not only people third eyes, but their hearts, right,
they're harsh. So if you can open your heart up all the way to
someone, which is better if you really do love someone to practice with,
even though it makes it harder because usually if you're that into somebody, it's
hard, right, But that's the point. You're supposed to sit in that
energy. And the more you let that energy build up and the more you
open your heart, like, the more you feel this force, like this
divine energy, right, and it is magical actually, But some people say,
oh, it's just oxytocin or whatever, Like your feelings are not pathological,
they're not. There's something more to them than that, right, Like
people just don't know that. It's just it's it gets complicated to where it's
like, how many of them are like based on the programming and stuff,
and it's possible. Yeah, I know it's possible to do it by yourself.
It's sure possible, but it's I'm telling you to get the peak effect.
It's better to to really love someone else here. You're not here to
be alone, or you would be designed to be alone. You had been
designed that way, and you would be alone, you know, yeah,
exactly. But I'm still thinking after reading Jason Quit's book, like I think
all this is bullshit, and I'll tell you why that could be wrong.
But is that what he's talking about, going full gnostic? Right? Yeah,
he's not. I don't think it's full. I got to finish the
book because I promised him I do a review on his book. But basically,
all of these gods, all of these all of these cast systems and
gods and the stories and the mythologies and everything. Like Joseph Campbell is on
to something when he's like, there's are there all archetype of energies. Okay,
we understand that, but when you really pick apart their names and the
years they were born and all the numbers that the stories tell, like if
you use code, Basically what I'm saying, so it kind of is technology.
This code shows the same fingerprint and every story of creation, It shows
a numerological and geometrical story of creation behind each character, whether it's Lucifer,
Uriel, Marduke, all these different stories, it all comes down to the
same fingerprint and code. So then if that's the case, then this and
all this other stuff can't be real. Or could it be because they're not
even real characters, they're just made up mythologies of that explain this energy,
right, Yeah, it could be. Like, uh, I was watching
like last year, I watched the Alien documentary, like the making of the
movie Alien and stuff, and they were just kind of talking about how these
like we're kind of where those ideas come from, and kind of how these
kind of ancient ideas and these like even like love Craftyan type ideas seem to
constantly becoming like recyclums over and over again. And one of the guys compared
it to like cimatics, where it's like imagine like a speaker or some kind
of like sound or whatever, and you have the sand on top of it,
and the sound is like creating the pattern, so the sand will vibrate
into a certain shape whatever, and like, so imagine just we're the sand
and you like turn the machine on it and it's vibrating into that shape and
turn it off. The stand kind of goes back to the normal. Turn
on again, it go back into the same shape. So it just over
and over again through our history, we just keep all the sand is different,
the people are different, like the cultures are different, but we just
keep resonating and vibrating into into a similar shape. So the stories might be
the sand. You want to hear something trippy though, now that you're talking
about this tech stuff, I think this is all like a big tech that
we don't understand. That's why it's been told in like stories on nursery rhymes
to us, Yeah, because it's like a technology we don't understand. Yeah,
Like if you look at the Aokian language and even the watch towers of
each element and all, you're supposed to look at them like three dimentionally where
you can see the different dimensions inside of it. And then if you trace
enough sigils, like if you start to look at angelic sigils and everything,
and these some bitches work, Okay, they work. You start to look
at these things, it looks like if you back up and look at it,
it looks like a crazy motherboard exactly. It looks like all kinds of
different little buses and stuff. Right, it looks weird exactly exactly. It's
I mean, it seems even like the phenomena even like like when we're talking
about like angels and stuff, it's it seems just like super super advanced,
uh, like calligraphy, like like holograms and stuff like shape shifting tangible plasma
hologram type stuff, and just like it just seems like this constant thing where
we're just like, I don't know, we're building the new thing that will
eventually enslave us, and then we'll build a new thing again. It's just
this constant fractal of this continuing thing. I don't know, with the like
yeah, I don't know if there is an end result or if we're just
like, yeah, I don't know. It just seems very very technological,
like even the the angels angles thing, like the angles being like angles off
of something. It's all math kind of at the end of it, all
kind of breaks down to math and some kind of some kind of code.
And is that just because that's kind of what the basis of our reality that
just are are Like, it's not that it's what it's made out of.
It's not made out of code, it's not made out of numbers or platonic
soulis. It's just that's the limit to what we can see. That's that's
the question. I think we figured it out, man, Like we figured
out ones and zeros, right, we figured that out, and look what
we made with ones and zeros. It's insane happened with ones and zeros.
I think this technology uses like that kind of thing, but it's like biological
and it's more complex quantum. I guess you could say we went pretty deep
pretty quick. Yeah hell yeah, so yeah, like a break, he
said. I bet Nicola Tesla didn't jarge. He probably didn't. That might
be why he was a genius, you know, but he was. I'm
on the I'm on the I don't know how much of me is just being
kind of a like piece of ship, like Devil's advocate all the time,
being like are we sure about the force? Are we? But one of
my first ones is like are we sure about Tesla? Honestly, like,
as a as a conspiracy theorist, like this guy ye. I mean he,
yes, he died broke, but so did crazy broke. I'm like,
you know me, people die broke. That's that doesn't say exactly.
Yeah, love Craft he was a creep exactly, But that's that's the I
was always the argument. But it's also he was like very famous at the
time. He was hanging out with celebrities. He was running electricity through them
all the time. If you're asiation mythology, electricity is like of the devil,
It's like of Araman. It's like it's it's like these demons and stuff
are basically AI. They were explaining it from the first mythology. So it's
like there of electricity. It's like technology isn't the problem, but it's like
electrical technology is the problem. And that Yeah, I mean like most of
you that he was saying that broke and you don't know it. You know,
he was on drugs and he died broke. I'm like, so does
seventy percent of America exactly what is that? Just anything? Right? I
mean they took it. Edison took his stuff like he's some kind of like
he's some kind of alternative like hero or whatever. But it's just like but
that's kind of the we don't know, like the end result of the things
that we were. He says he's getting ideas from from from the dead,
like trying to create spear phone and stuff. He said he was getting ideas
from Venus and aliens and stuff. He was getting ideas from the electricity.
He was like that man, he said, but did he Tesla said that?
But I mean I didn't. I didn't talk to him. But those
are that's the legends. I don't know. But he was this guy that
I'm reading his book, he's saying the same thing, and like I'm getting
my body sensors are going off, like he's he's putting out some pretty genius
level, well not genius level, not Tesla level stuff, but pretty good
information. But then he's like, I'm getting information from beings from Orion,
but I'm not channeling them. But I can't tell you how I'm getting the
information. Yeah, like exactly, it's I mean, they're getting you can't
why not? Why can't you tell me? You know? That's so I
don't think Tesla was a Charlatan. That's the difference. It's it's like it's
I don't think he's like I don't think he's flying or as a fraud or
anything like that. But I think what are I mean like the if we're
building some kind of iconic force and some kind of like AI that's going to
eventually enslave us. Maybe it can't do that on fossil fuels. Maybe it
can't do that on an electric grid. It maybe it require Tesla level of
technology in order to eventually build the thing that will imprison us forever, build
this matrix that we're all afraid of. It might require like he he,
because just because you get a download from something, it doesn't mean that download
is good. That's if you are doesn't mean that's a whole other thing.
Yeah, But like if you're some kind of if you're like a lovecraftan old
one trapped outside of reality and the idea is to get back in. So
or if you're an archonic force trying to have a grip on reality, which
is you need you need humans to build a vessel for you to inhabit.
You need us to build robots, you need us to build AI, you
need us to build something to communicate with it. Like, then you will
set that's how you will do it. You'll send ideas to visionaries. You'll
send ideas to people in psychedelic states. You will give these people downloads,
channeling sessions. Like all of these huge leaps in technology come from the same
type of thing. Steve Jobs had his his famous assets. They're all so
it's like it's something is giving us the idea for technology, and this guy
was straight up shooting electricity through his He was like, yeah, give me
the idea. I need it, I need it. And this is like,
yes, just because they stole his ship, just because he died penniless
does not mean he was like he might have been a good guy first time.
But it's just like, are we sure about Tesla Tech just because like
just because like I don't know, Like just like they use the they use
the mainstream media is trying to stifle this person as a way to like make
it seem like that's good. I mean, but that's like like that doesn't
that doesn't that's a that's an easy tactic to make I mean. So it's
just like maybe the Arkans want Tesla Tech, maybe they want us. They
want the richest guy in the world who's building AI to name his company Tesla.
I mean, like I don't know. I don't know, Like,
no, you got to take a break. But I don't know. I
don't think people are sure. I think he's just like a lot of people
like like people don't people like Tesla. People think, oh, like people
like Tesla. Yeah, but I'm saying I don't people are gonna, like,
uh, be able to prove everything. But he's one of the people
that, like even Jason Quitt had like a Tesla magazine, you know,
he was Teslas one of his biggest fans, or he's one of everyone.
He's this he's this alternative like hero. But so what you sure if in
order to collapse the pillows of reality, it might require the level of technology
that Custla was talking about. I mean, in order to make it palatable,
we might need to like hide it for a while. They're trying to
hide it for us, give it to us, and then when we give
it to us, it's our own Denis. I mean, we'll be right
back on n you guys call. I'm gonna open up the phone line five
on one seven seven seven five six three one. We got to take the
radio station break. We'll be right back real short radio live here on the
Fringe FM broadcasting to you live from the Shack. We got Nice Stark on
tonight. It's usually we do the music shows Monday night. We still might
get into a little music. Speaking of music, guys need to follow Barney
aka hound Dog on TikTok. He's I've been pushing him. I'm like,
come on, dude, put up those solos. Man, he's been kicking
it on guitars, So give him a follow. And uh yeah, just
to let you know, night stalk or that camera, Mike, if you
rub it it sounds like a paper. I thought you were rolling doobies up
at first, you know, I think mansie so I got a bunch of
jackets. He's rolling up doobies, dude. Yeah, or maybe it might
be some beard action too. Sorry with that, everybody, you're rubbing it
on your beard. So the whole time you've been hearing your beard is it
bad? It's it's cool now, it's fun. Sorry, sorry, it's
just uh, you know, people like nobody knows that. They don't tell
you that stuff when you get phones either, they're like, oh, by
the way, if you touch this thing with anything, it's going to sound
like a car wreck. But if you don't it sounds amazing, right,
The MIC's on the phone sound really good though, honestly, they sound a
lot better than some mics do. But but I appreciate your input. By
the way, the calling numbers five on one, triple seven, fifty six,
thirty one. If you want to chime in, phone lines are open.
But well, but right now, can you here, Like, there's
really not much I can do. I mean, I'm kind of just like,
no, I don't hear anything open opening my mouth. Basically, I
don't hear anything as hard as just when you move. I mean, as
those mics are so sensitive, you can hardly you can hardly do anything about
it anyways. So but you know, I appreciate your feedback on that,
man, because to me, it would be like, look, if it
was Genevieve or Barney or any any of the listeners, They're like, dude,
I'm I got cancer or whatever, Like I'm going to check out in
a little while, and I'm reading these books and they're telling me like all
this scary shit. You know, Yeah, it's like, I guess worst
case scenario. You're just I mean, if you believe that reincarnation is the
next thing. Anyways, then worst case scenario, you're just you're just gonna
get recycled anyways. It's not like I don't think the idea is you get
tricked by the light, sucking to the light, and then you're in like
a jar forever. It's just like you're just back in there in the eternal
process, and the idea is to get out of that game. But we
just don't know how good the good is. I guess you mean I thought
the idea was to make this place heaven on Earth. That's what I thought.
Yeah, you know, but it's impossible. It's not going to happen.
You know, it totally could happen. It's not that it's not impossible.
It's just highly unlikely due to our behavior. But it if you just
took the laws of cause and effect and we stopped giving into fear so much,
it could it could totally happen. If we just didn't have a lack
of mindset, or we weren't afraid of shit, it could happen. Yeah,
I'm not saying I was going to, but it could absolutely could happen.
You know, if if I guess, if we're all just kind of
making the six feet in every direction around us, kind of heaven on earth
in the immediate like environment around us. And if everyone is doing that,
then it does become heaven on earth. You know. If ever, if
everyone is making their little bubble heaven and when ore, that's kind of the
idea of the collective consciousness. If all of our little bubbles of consciousness are
heavenly, when they come together, we create heaven. And kind of the
idea is like, well, yeah, but that guy over there, he's
not going to do that. He's he's making terrible stuff. So my bubble
touches up with that bubble, it's going to be a nightmare of reality.
And it's kind of like the economy, well yeah, well that person's spending
on booze and cigarettes and stuff, so it's just like real crap in a
barrel type stuff. And it's just like, I don't know, there's no
advice here, but it's just like in dey could work, I guess,
I don't know. Yeah, I mean, like I'm buying booze and cigarettes.
Sometimes I just think that we I think we create. I'm about to
smoke a cigarette right now because I'm stressed. It relieves stress and anxiety,
you know, the doctors used to prescribe it, by the way, But
I uh, I'm the old school man, like I don't care, you
know, I don't care. But the the the thing is is the idea
of of the mysteries or spirituality or this whole Kundalini mystery and the force and
all the stuff we talked about anyways, is to increase your consciousness to the
point of awareness of the higher self so that when you do reincarnate you it's
you never forget who you are, you know, but now you know people,
I mean, anybody could say anything is a trap. If you think
about it, like any good information, you could say, well, that's
that's just a trap. It's a trap with the with the remembering on your
next go around kind of. I mean, do you when people talk about
the idea this is a school, we're here to like learn stuff or whatever,
and that the purpose of like having our memory wiped every time is so
that we can learn stuff or whatever. So that's the that's the goal.
Then then like why are we trying to hack the game? That's what they
tell you because they want you to stay here because it's a trap. Yeah,
but that's that's that's the thing, which seems like more it's either a
trap or it's a school, like we chose to come and carr it into
hear and all of our bad choices are because our higher self decided that beforehand,
and blame him when you get back there or whatever, or or at
the trap. I mean, like it can't be the New Age community is
a trap. Yeah, Like there's so much crap in it, man,
you know, it's like, honestly, it's worse than religion. Sometimes to
me, it's worse in it's worse than orthodoxy. You hear people, well,
just to wait for the universe and the unit. You are the universe,
you're the storm, you're the universe. You're waiting around on yourself.
Yeah, you know, it's like wait for divine timing and the universe provides
and I'm just gonna like do a ritual or watch a vision board and everything's
gonna manifest. It's like you realize that's how creation probably came into being to
begin with, but there was action taken. You know, you're not you're
the universe, So do it. Don't wait around for it, you know
exactly. Yeah, I get a question, it's gonna seem off topic,
but I get applies. So when when when I'm talking about like we are
the manifesting engine of reality, like I always give the Dark Side of the
Moon album cover as like, so the monad or the Source or big seat
consciousness or like God or the universe or whatever is the white light. We
are the prism. This is just is just one on one stuff. We're
the triangle prism and then the reality that we experience. So once the white
light is shot through our subjective prism triangle, then the rainbow is the reality
that we all experience or whatever. So like with my understanding of sigil,
magic kind of is, or magic honestly in general is to just impact change
the prism slightly so that when that white light is shot through, then the
reality that is shot it's the rainbow. This comes out on the other end,
is the way that you want it. So little tweaks here and there,
little hacks kind of is kind of we're going to have to start doing.
You remember all that the crap I used to talk on here with you
say we're going to do some like magic experiments on here. So I can
tell you everybody this and you're like, let's do it. Let's do it,
and I never got around to doing it right like so, so,
but that's with with sigil magic when like, because I'm into the idea that
they're trying to not like fake an alien invasion or not like fake some kind
of apocalypse or whatever or like that they're a lot of their power and I'm
using like the nebulous Day or whatever, but a lot of like the power
of the controllers is through us. So I think they're trying to fake it
until they manifest it. They're trying to surround us with imagery of aliens and
alien heads and titans and watchers and all kinds of demons and crazy stuff so
that like we don't see because makes it happen. Mean, like is that
is that sigil magic? So let me explain. I'm having a hard time
to understanding what you're saying. Thanks Michael for the thirty dollars, Thank you,
brother, thank you, thank you think so so my I'm understanding of
sigil magic is so like take a take a phrase or take like some kind
of outcome that you want, and like so say say it's a phrase and
then remove all those vowels from it. Yeah, and you're trying to create
magic and maybe like put that, put that in your your car dashboard or
something in the periphery so that you like forget about it and your conscious mind
forgets about it, but your subconscious mind understands what it is in order for
it to manifest. So take that with pop culture and the zeitgeist as a
whole, It's like they're surrounding us with these images, like these kind of
weird subtle like what you're saying, like there's a constant image push be subconscious.
Huh I see what you're saying though, Like there through through all this
stuff we're being manipulated in our to our subconscious through like it's a constant schigil,
that's what you're saying. And even in this being memed so like even
like a silly alien thing, so like someone celebrities do kind of crazy stuff
that like it, it's instantly memed online, we make a joke out of
it, and then we push it to our subconscious. So is that how
sigil magic works, like in order to manifest. So so you have a
you have to speak to the unconscious, you have to write like you're already
explaining your question right, You're answering your question. So, so the thing
that stops things from manifesting and Liam Thomas Christopher just did a video about this,
but it's like one of the basic laws of magic is the lust for
results. Okay, So the only way to get something to manifest is to
put it into your unconscious and you're not You have no attachment to the outcome.
You feel the emotional desire for it, but you have no attachment to
the out come, right, And then that's usually what that's how it happens.
There's other ways to to boost it into make it manifesting more like if
you want to get into ritual or sexual energies or just more focused you know
stuff. But I see what you're saying, Like, if there was this
entity that was trying to manifest a certain reality into our reality, he's putting
all kinds of things so that our unconscious we don't really care about it,
but our unconscious is observing it and taking it in all the time. Right,
Therefore it's becoming real. Because dude, you just tripped me out,
Because what if Wes is right, Like, because we are these like triple
creative beings and this thing knows well, I can't go to oryan or whatever.
I'm not a creative being like a human, but I can screw with
it unconsciously all the time and get it to create what I want, which
is basically what a narcissist does. Right. It goes back to like the
gods trying to fight for our attention or whatever. So if you're some type
of like force, if you're some type of like Zeus, like archetypical Zeus
Force or whatever, or some type of like father force, you were going
to maybefore time have dominance, and then that culture kind of forgets about you,
and then the goal will be to like trying to coax another culture.
You might be under a different name or whatever, but you need to in
order to gain power and gain influence and gain just whatever, just like lushes
or whatever whatever it is, you need people to notice you and yeah,
like venerate you in a certain way, and then that will kind of charge
you up. So if we're like a yeah, I don't know, yah,
yeah, God's God forgives sign say on every other billboard next to the
porno billboards, especially if you're in like Pennsylvania or something, you know.
I mean, So if you're if you're like what Coley was talking to,
like like like a wass or lamb or something like that. If he's some
type of like weird non physical sentience and you're trying to get form, you're
gonna maybe like inject it to like, you know, find somebody's trying to
communicate with something. Oh this cray let me let me beam a message into
him. He draws this crazy picture of a big headed, like gray alien
type thing. Then fast forward like seventy years. Then we get like Whitney
Streeber puts it on his book because I rid of the chills. Then it
goes into movies. Fast forward to like last week, Victor Weberyama, who's
like going to be the next Lebron James for the NBA, is going to
be like the next Michael Jordan for the NBA, unveiled his new logo and
it's just like alien sigil. It's this basketball with the green alien head in
it, and it's like, what would it do to culture if the Jordan
logo was an alien? That thing is plastered absolutely everywhere? Is that sigil
magic? Would that help this non physical entity manifest the form that it wants?
You know what I mean? Like Will Smith yesterday just performed at Coachella
in front of a big gray alien, Lill Smith, a big titan head
men in black and everything. It's like so all and Drake had a big
green alien thing and a big flying saucer and giant titan stuff, and just
all these celebrities are doing it. We just kind of brush it off.
Oh whatever, it's just a spectacle. But it's just like, are all
these symbols, all these kind of me magic type things so that I wass
or whatever this thing is can manifest its form and then and then exists here.
You know, like if you read the Book of the Law, that'll
trip you out. Have you read it? No? No, I haven't.
We got to read that crap, dude, Like it's a short book.
But it's basically this being the curly Channel is like the ultimate in my
opinion, It's like love is the law and everything, but it's also the
ultimate kind of lucifairy and satanic mindset. It's like he called it. If
everybody stan he called it, everybody's too stupid or if you're weak, right
then the hell with you. The rest of us, like the magicians,
the people that know how to like make their will happen. Are just going
to take over the Earth as long as you let us run things, and
whoever else doesn't get it, the hell with them, including Jesus. He
talks about pecking Jesus. It's eyeballs out and stuff. You know. I
mean, it sounds a lot like the Force if you ask me, like
about forget about the regular people in the galaxy. We're working through just the
ones with the most mediclorians, the ones that can like manipulate. They call
it. They call it the Book of the Wheels. That's that's what the
that's what Star Wars was going to be called originally Book of the Wheels.
And it's just like, let's manipulate the thing, or let's like interact with
the thing that can best manipulate reality. Let's put him in government. They
just they run society. These military magicians, these military wizards screw everybody else.
And it's just like everybody who's everybody who's quote unquote the chosen one gets
there, I'm chopped off and has a robot part or like dies miserably and
stuff and then gets sucked. The only ones who are ghosts who get trapped
in this like prison place a thing. Are the ones who were The Force
wheelers are the Jedi, They are the ones who everyone else escapes. But
the force ghosts are the ones who are using the force. I mean,
like the traps they're stuck in here, you know, it's like the force,
the forces of them urge. I think that's my take, I think.
But Curley was kind of a genius. So he took his wife right
to the Pyramids and channeled this being through the female to the feminine energy.
So he used the masculine wheel to bring it down, channeled the being into
the feminine energy, and she spoke these words that it was coming and it's
hairy and creepy. Secondly, based on what you're saying, like, I
don't this, I mean, I'm not into like making this reel or anything,
Okay, but if you put it all together, it does like every
since that happened, technology has moved faster than compound interest. Oh man,
yeah, seriously it has. And it was like this is that time period
in general seemed like some kind of download like around that time that was that
was Lovecraft, that was like Charles Ford, that was like Tolkien. It
was like this brain download type of thing where we got this I don't know
and like and then we seem to have another one around like rosswell time and
like all these stuff that cherysonal. Talks about with Lucifer's technology kind of type
of thing, where like we got the instructions to build the technology that's damning
us. Basically we got the down We got it in the form of a
downcraft, or we got it in the form of whatever they gave us the
instructions for the transistor, were about to build the Internet, and we built
this like weird digital cage that we're all just like fighting in and just it's
just we like it's it's we built the thing that's literally draining our loose You
will you go on Facebook, you will see the worst stuff that makes you
mad. You will feel worse afterwards. That's like a very simple, simple,
tangible, loose training thing that we have already and this ramp that up
a thousand years. That's that's what we're talking about. That's the Orion thing
that we're talking about. It's the same thing, same same mechanism. There's
some kind of weird thing just to drain your emotions. And then like right
now, the corporations are the ones sucking it out and feeding it off,
feeding our data and our attention, attention, attention. But then in the
future Chrisby archons or whatever, just I don't know, it's fractal like we're
doing, we're building it, it's happening right now, using it on the
internet, but then fractively zoom out a little bit. That could just be
what reality is. I don't know. Yeah, I also know that you,
like, I think we have to be careful about this is all just
like thought stuff. I mean, I'm not saying this, yeah, but
now I'm just saying, like, people really believe what you're talking about,
like to their very core, right, so we have to be careful of
like what if people are unbeknowingly creating this too, you know, like this
could just be a big programming motherboard, like if someone was saying in the
chat New York City, if you back up, looks like a big motherboard
or whatever. And that's what we are. We're just creative beings. We
are the universe down down into smaller beings, and so all the stuff that
we get in our heads and we get emotional about and then we all start
agreeing on it, we create it. So think about just that for a
minute. That would create all kinds of hell and havoc just that alone,
you know, are cons included. So I mean so yes, like what
I'm saying is is scary, but like and I think maybe in order to
it's like another I mean it is it is a nosis in of itself.
In order to maybe to receive that nosis, you have to like be slapped
into that new reality. Again. You got to be like scared. You
got to take that like the repilot, get kind of shocked, shocked to
your system first kind of. And if you continue to be shocked forever,
then that's not productive at all. But if you like like center yourself,
gather yourself and be like, okay, let me use this information to move
forward. Okay, so I'm not a victim to my situation. I'm not
just like experiencing this like at random. It's I'm manifesting it. And then
it's like, okay, they are using they're like hitting us with so much
trauma, putting us just through the absolute ringer in order to manifest this healthscape
that they want or whatever, and it's just like Okay, that's scary.
But then also if I'm manifesting it, then I can take my power back.
If I'm working at a supermarket and I'm broke and I have a whole
checklist of things reasons for me to or limitations or whatever, let's say the
one thing I have is like, okay, I can control that. I
can for the best of my ability, trying to control my immediate reality.
So it's like, yes, if you like take if you just stay with
that first initial slap into reality and just only focus on that, then yeah,
you're not You're not helping stuff at all. But if you take that
slap and then like, then like what I mean, does that make sense?
Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. But I got the Book of
the Law and told up here I was trying to find the crazy stuff in
here, but you know, I don't have time to go. One day,
I'll do a show on it and you know where I can read it.
But it's some pretty freaky stuff, man. So what's it saying about
the Like, the the Orion stuff's weird because like everything is aligned like the
pent Ian I mean, obviously the Pyramids, all this kind of stuff is
aligned to Orion. But also, like I member, my friend Claude,
shout out Claude. One of like me and Lindsay's friends said he, I
don't know if you got this from he wanted to figured out himself. But
the temples on Epstein's Island are also aligned to to Orion's really like the Orion's
belt and everything. Yeah, so it's like it's not just the ancients who
were like, it's like the modern ny creepiest of the creeps and everything.
It's just like, I wonder, why what are they trying to do?
You mean, like like what's what's what? What's that? How does that
tie into the book at all? Does it? Can it? Man?
I I don't think it doesn't tie into the Book of the Law, but
it could tie into you know, I mean the Orion west Peny's papers probably,
But see O'Rion is supposedly and according to his papers, the west Penury
Papers, Orion is the real heaven. So the real god of this universe,
according to Wes Penry, is a queen feminine energy like a like a
Sophia type of thing, or Columbia, but bigger, you know, like
Sophia is just a construct more of a construct a matter of fact, anything
religious anything in the mysteries, anything whatsoever that we've been taught is basically a
construct. We're all under this queen in this Ryan universe, you know in
UH in DC Comics, that's Perpetua. That's I think it's the name of
it from UH. It's from Scott Snyder. That's the guy who lost them.
I was on. You asked me, like, who who would want
to talk to if I got to interview anybody? This guy like gets his
information from like the CIA and stuff, And he wrote Justice League a few
years ago, and his like Big Bad was like this controlling force of the
entire DC multiverse multiverse. It was this Perpetua. Wouldn't it be wouldn't it
be crazy? If Wes Penry was like, actually this, That's exactly how
I channeled O Ryan's you know, through comic books, because I know that
comic books are actually telling the truth. Like I don't believe people Like if
I came to you and you said, hey, man, I got this
really cool thing I want to tell you about, but I have a source
and I can't tell you who it is or what it is, I'd be
like, okay, cool, But if you tell me a crazy story then
I'm be like, who's telling you this? You know? Right? Like
you if you're going to say something crazy, you can't just say I have
an insider or I got the information from like, because I don't believe you,
like you got the information out of your head and that's your excuse to
make it sound like it's true instead of you just saying I believe it's true.
Because if it were me, like and someone told me something like some
god or alien came down and said, look, I'm going to tell you
this truth, but you can't tell nobody, I'd be like, that's not
going to happen. I'm gonna tell everybody. That's just when it gets into
the dog my aspect of it, like I don't. I don't like the
idea of like nothing I'm saying is any type of truth at all. It's
all just like what if it's just like like, well, well this thought,
it's just like thought experiments. It's just like what I think is philosophy.
I mean, well this is a I mean, are we sure the
force is good? Like what? I'm not sure? I don't. I
don't like I like the I like the Jedi. I mean I want to
be like I would like to be a Jedi. But it's like I think,
I think it's cool to think about to question it. I mean,
what are the results like the force? The force? Man? You know,
it's just like your mind if you plant in my opinion, like I
think, who said this? Forget who said it, some one of those
guru guys said it. But you can plant crap seeds in your mind and
you're gonna get crap fruit just like you can. All the mind is like
people can plant seeds in it and then it grows out the fruit of what's
been planted there, and you can let people into your garden, or you
can think for yourself. You know, we don't live in a day and
age where a lot of people are thinking for themselves, at least from my
observation, because people are just soaking into information from everything, and we got
so many influencers and all this stuff, and all of these things are just
seeds, right, Yeah, So it's volatile as hell. I mean,
Billy Carson going around, who's I got no qualms with the guy. But
his whole marketing strategy is based off of the Emerald Tablets of Thoth. But
he's saying, Isaac Newton and all these people read them, and no,
the Emerald Tablet of Hermes was the one that they read. The Emerald Tablets
of Thoft didn't come out to like the twenties or thirties. But because the
presentation is so good, because it moves people, because it's cool, people
believe everything he's saying. Oh yeah, he I mean, nobody kires what
I say. I don't even have I don't I'm not even sure he's aware
of it, you know what I mean, Like, I don't know if
he even knows these are two different tablets too. I mean that's like you're
referring to like any xts. Stuffy talks about everything like yeah, yeah,
but I knew that when back with any XT knew it, Like I thought
it was common knowledge. A lot of people knew that. Yeah. Like
Billy Carson, to me, he's a little bit of like a grifter.
He seems like he'd be chilled to like hang out with and smoke with or
whatever, but like, but he's got he's also like trying to sell like
his ideas and everything and stuff. So he's just like he's spitting. He's
like one step away from like Willcock to me and everything. He's like,
he's just he's on the like I know, he's got rich and created an
app or something like that, but he just people when they get to that
level, like when they get those kind of movements following them, they just
need to be careful, you know. Yeah, I mean, and it
just it gets, it gets. I don't necessarily blame them per se,
but it's just you have to be aware of like the same way with the
twenty four hour news content online it's just like I mean, not online,
I mean on TV and stuff. It's it's like they're having a station.
If there's a slow news day, they're not going to like not be on
the TV. All right, well there's no news today, so we're just
not gonna show up. They're gonna still present every idea, every piece of
news as if it was the most important thing. Everything is breaking news,
Everything is breaking news. So for him, it's like you got to keep
going. You have to keep So it's a commodity of like new ideas,
new cool ideas, new breaking information, new theories or like, and you
can't just have to keep cracking them out, keep cranking them out. So
Lendam Molt and the Howe and stuff that she just like she's foindly not a
bad person, but she is going to print every story that everyone gives her
because she that's how she pays her bills, right, I mean, so
it so it's like it's just you have to understand that as a listener,
and if you don't, then like like yeah, I mean and then yeah,
I don't know. I just don't. Yeah, bro, I don't
care about like just like with this West Penry thing, you know, I
don't care if people are successful or not or what they I just want to
make sure that I mean, I guess what you're saying is sometimes they run
out of cool stuff to say, so they have to make up. Yeah,
if you're if you're to be the truth, that's all. Yeah.
If you're like whole brand and your whole thing is like, oh, I'm
going to break this information. I'm going to break this information. Like my
thing is like I'm just trying to think about cool stuff. I was trying
to take something and just think about it in a different way so that will
never run out. But if my thing was here's this new thing no one's
ever heard of before, here we go, that might make me famous for
like six months. But how am I gonna keep doing that? How am
I gonna make a book every year? How am I gonna do a contact
in the desert every year? How am I gonna do all these things?
I'm gonna keep an app going? I m I going to keep a podcast
going week after week? How am I getting these new paradigm shifting ideas every
week? Every week? You can't see? Stop making stuff up. We
stopped being much more like lenient with what you like your filter for, Like
this is probably not true, but like whatever, I'm gonna run with them.
Like so it doesn't make you a bad person, not necessarily, but
like I also can It's probably the truest thing I've ever heard of anybody say,
my entire life, Sorry, how's my cant? Like? Because you
know, I can't help but laugh at that because it is it is true.
I got to hear me automatic a girlfriend about this, you know,
because when you have a girlfriend you want to keep. It's the same thing,
right, like if you don't succeed or whatever, you know, they're
not going to be happy because they want to experience this life, and all
you are is a car to get them to that kind of life, you
know, And it's like, listen, I said the same thing to her.
I said, look, I can't keep just doing shows and just pulling
shit out of my ass to talk about this little stuff, man, Like
I got to take a break or I got to find something to you know,
that I'm interested in, like read books or do something. So no,
you got to It's kind of like, have you ever seen that movie
any given Sunday, the football movie where he goes up to the woman he's
like, you know, and he's beat up and bruised up, and he's
like, I think it's time that I retire, and she just smacks him.
You are a quarterback, and it's like you need to get rid of
these kind of women, period, because they're going to run you in the
ground, right. But it just I don't want to shoot on Billy Carson
and I don't know the guy. I get what you're saying, like you
got to do something cool every day that whole frigging I also don't know Jimmy
Church and then all kind of thing. Honestly, I see them from Afar
and everything, and they're like they're just like sucking their own like so much.
They're like making award shows just to give themselves awards and just like making
red carpets and ship and doing this whole frigging like thing just to like just
to like jerk themselves off and everything. And it's just like, okay,
cool, buddy, I mean like cool cool, But like I don't know,
I don't I don't listen to that that ship nastly whatever. I like
what we're doing better. I don't know they're not listening, you know what
I mean though, they're just tossing awards though to whoever wants to like show
up to percent an award. It's like you mean, it's just like like
like lunches, yeah, give me a yeah, I don't know, just
give me, give me a break. Like it's just like Jimmy Church can
like give a selfie of his mansion or whatever. Shut up? Like do
you think do you think we should all succeed? Like I'm happy for their
success and everything, but just like if I'm in are just I want I
want everyone to do great. Everyone should be getting rich and balling out and
doing their own awards shows for themselves and like giving themselves oscars and everything.
And that's awesome, but It's just like, if I'm calibrating what's in good
information what's not good information, I'm not necessarily going to them, Like I
would love to hang out with them and just chill, but like, I'm
never going to source them as a source of information because I think that's what
they say is bullshit. Kind of a little bit nothing against them, Okay,
So my whole point with the Billy Carson thing was is like, if
Billy Carson can get a fact wrong or kind of mismarket the tablets thing,
don't you think this Wes Penry guy could have a like twenty or thirty forty
things wrong about what he's saying at least? Oh yeah, for sure,
for sure? Yeah, you know I think the Yeah, I think I
think yeah, yes, I think a lot of the dogma could be wrong.
So like when you were first at the beginning of the show, first
talking about it, I was like, Okay, yeah, the trick by
the light, the are we sure like this cosmic bug zapper idea. I
think there's a nugget of truth to that potentially, But the lore he was
building on on, like in the mythology kind of the trappings around it,
I don't really resonate with as much. So if you experience like all these
different systems, like these different religions or whatever as just like and you try
to find these little nuggets, then that's good, that's useful information. But
if you get like bogged down with the dogma or no one has to be
Orion or no one has to be this because the book says it is,
or this has to be this, like because like like then you're get in
trouble and we were off there were scienceist says this year like we're all fucked.
You know, like if I came to you and said, nice talk,
right, I got I don't know how many years I got left to
live. Yeah, I've read this book. Scared the all out of me.
If you read it, and it's got some pretty intense information. I
mean, it's just like any other book that reveals all the scary stuff about
religion and the mysteries, throws some stuff in there and some narcissism, and
then says, you know, this is all a trap. I mean,
what do you like? I guess I'm asking you because I feel bad for
Gareth I have even though he's a cool dude, he's really a cool cadd
He's just like us. Even the guy that is he has to you know,
he needs someone to take care of him now because he can't do certain
things. That guy's cool. But like to me, this Gareth is the
reason why I think it should matter. Like a lot of us do this
for intellectual stimulation. We hang out right, we were trying to figure out
the truth deep down. We want to know it for a reason. But
Gareth is the living example of why the truth is important exactly so. For
if the question is like at the moment, like what am I going to
do at the moment of death? Am I going to go to the light
or not? My answer is I have right now, I have zero clue.
I don't I don't know. And the way I talk about these things,
I'd always say I collect these theories. I collect these little like nuggets
like their comic books. I take them in like, well, that's cool
to think about, and I can put them away, Like, but I
did a survey on this. Actually I'm gonna pull it up. But if
but it's like, what do you just said? If I if I there
was if I knew my time was limited, then there's this dunken trustle quote
that I like really like a lot when he explains kind of death as like
sailing, like way back in the day, where so if you're like like
an explorer and you have to go around like the cape of Good Hope,
whatever, and you don't know what's on the other side, but you know
the waters are going to kind of be treacherous, Like you have to like
build up your kind of sailing experience and to be able to handle those mysterious
and potentially treacherous waters once you get around that that like the cape, like
once you get to that zone of we don't we don't, we don't know,
so that death could potentially be the same thing. So in order to
practice to be experienced sailor for these treacherous waters, you have to cross to
get in their ty a lot or practice getting out of body a lot,
which is and that's that's that's why every single culture has the resurrection rituals to
have these ego deaths, to these imitation deaths, to try to journey to
the end of world and come back with these little nuggets of knowledge. But
like mainly meditate, like you don't have to like go to the extreme,
but just try to meditate, but just like try to. Yeah, I
mean, like you said, like, do practice all these tools the best
of your How would yeah, befoose me. I would get serious about meditating
and not like do it from an app or like casually do it. I
would try to go to like the most ancient systems I can and the ones
who haven't had it figured out, and just try to get build up my
sailing experience as best I can. And so that part of it could be
if we are scared at the moment of death and if we go into it
traumatic, then our karma, our momentum, our trajectory will be traumatic and
that'll push well next. According to Robert Monroe, he saw people that were
dying and stuff, and that's exactly what you just said, is exactly right,
Like not only did they take their traumas with them into the afterlife,
but all of their fears, like, yeah, they even thought he was
the devil and He's like, no, I don't even know what's going on
here, I'm not the devil. And they were like freaking out, like
oh, please don't take me to hell, and just all kinds of weird
stuff, you know, exactly. Yeah, So if you if you can
get to a place where like, like we're talking about it, like it's
going to be a clear thing, like I'm going to see the light and
know and be like, Okay, I'm gonna make a conscious choice. But
I don't know what that that person, well my grandmother, they're talking to
me. That doesn't seem like my grandmother. I don't know what that.
It might not be that clear. It might be this weird. It might
be this kind of scary, trippy thing which all colors around you and you
just like you're drowning almost and you're just trying to grab for any any piece
of like rock or coral if you can, just to get your bearings and
stuff. But if you're like a more experienced diver, more experienced swimmer,
then you'd be better to like, okay, here a ticket's breath, Here
I am, here, I am, And just the more time you or
the more you have your bearings, the more like the better choice you can
make. You might be able to have more intuition at that moment or whatever
this seems live, we should all just get out of body as much as
possible, you know, yeah, safely, Yeah for sure, Like so
I did this poll, I said, if you had two choices, according
to according to Wes Penry, when you die, do you go to the
tunnel of light or do you go to a hole in the grid to the
unknown? You only have these two choices, what would you choose? I'm
surprised, honestly, seventy three percent. I mean, I only have sixty
votes so far, but seventy three percent of people said that they would go
to a hole in the grid to the unknown. So I mean I thought
most people would go to the light in the tunnel, like honestly, well,
face faced with those two options, if it's a light or a hole
in the ground in the grid, like a hole in the grid, like
I am also like a conspiracy there is too, So part of me is
like, is this entire narrative an arconic tactic to get us to not go
to the light. The light could be the answer, so you inject the
conspiracy there is? Don't trust the light? Like I said, everything could
be a trap. Everything could be a trap. So so if there's this
like heavenly glowing door, and it's like you hear all your relatives partying,
and you hear music and champagne bottles popping in this in this other room.
And then there's this little weird dingy shack and I mean not shack, but
like it with a little digy hole, like I don't know. Like then
it's like from creeping a van being like, hey, come here, come
here, come here, don't don't go over there, like I don't know,
don't go to the light man, do to light you know? No,
No they don't, they don't. They just want to steal your way.
I don't know. I just want to steal your soul man. Yeah,
loosh, but come here, come here. I know the real secrets.
I hey, come here, take this pill. Looks like at the
red pill and some creepy morpheous guy. That's exactly how I feel about this
whole thing. I feel like it's some dude in an ice cream truck,
some creepy dude just saying it's all a big trick man, and he's kind
of whacked out of his mind a little bit because he's been doing meth and
adderall too much, let's face it, and like he's whacked out of his
mind, and he's like, it's a trick man, I know the truth.
And you're like yeah, exactly, but nobody knows the truth. That's
the thing. We can't know truth. These are all just my grandma's at
the top of the light there. I don't know what's in that hole.
I'm honestly surprised that seventy percent of people said they're going to go to the
hole, which tells me that don't be mad at me. I don't want
to make my own audience mad, but it tells me that you guys are
pretty convinced. I mean, you're pretty influenced. I mean, that's that's
that's my huge problem with I like to tell myself the conspiracy theorist. Conspiracy
theorists like to really poke at like what I can said, it would be
like tropes, mainstream conspiracy things, and it's that's the most frustrating thing for
me is how easy it is for everyone in all of our communities to be
like sucked into believing somebody it's it's just or just it just takes. Like
the biggest examples is like I'm not going to get in the politics at all,
but just for just like like Trump and Elon Musk, I'm somebody who
believes that all the presidents are related. None of the choices are for us
all but all it takes to be like, oh, well, the mainstream
media is lying to you. You don't like the mainstream media. Well,
the mainstream media does not like this person. So it's so fact though,
this person must be good. And it's like, no, that is dumb,
that's that that is that is a very like that's very simple. It's
way too simple. And if I know that, there's no way that they
don't know that, and they can prop up anybody. If you if you're
the richest person in the world and you are like trying to like building in
charge of all like the modern you're the modern daya Parsons in Elon Muska.
You have all the rockets, you your fans building, you goat statues,
but your head in a rocket. You're also building AI. You're talking about
AI demons and everything. You're the most powerful, the richest person in the
world, in charge of the thing that's collecting all of our data. The
way to like keep yourself free from criticism or to have like half the people
embrace you is to be like, well, Bill Gates sucks, or the
mainstream media sucks, or Disney sucks, or like some like bullshit things that
like, yeah, no shit, Disney sucks a mean but like you are
still trying to plug people's brains into AI. Well free speech, well,
free speech, yeah, like shut up, buddy. I mean, it's
like it's such an easy thing. It's like, oh, the mainstream media
hates Trump, like, so he must be good. It's like, no,
he's a billionaire and he's hanging out with the rest of them, and
he's part of the blood line and he doesn't like you either. I mean,
but like they get you to trunk, they get it all like any
of them of them, they're all part of the same blood line. You're
not gonna catch me going, oh, Trump's getting ransacked because of the trials.
And I'm like, look, man, Hitler said the same thing.
And I'm not comparing Trump to Hitler, but like, don't be stupid.
Like just because you're watching the TV and somebody puts on a great presentation and
puts on a tie and says some really powerful stuff, it's it's memes.
Like you said earlier, It's just like everybody's turned into influential memes these days,
you know, that's all they are. And it's like a it's like
a commodity to. I mean, free speech is important. I believe a
community say what you want, but also it a nooys the hell out of
me where I mean, I say some like I'm not big on Facebook anymore,
but like when I was, I would say some outlandish things and I've
never been I've never received a band I say whatever I want. I would
I go after like wreathing on and crazy shit like that and everything I was
like that was I was on Freeman for and stuff like I like, I
don't I never there is people that need to go. Like you see that
guy on Instagram. I don't mean to cut you off, but there was
that dude that did get up on Instagram that started crying saying that raything on
pretty much the rooms is life in the military. It's I mean, they're
they're they're having the greatest weekend of their their life right now. They're they're
they're like jumping up and up and down right now. With the World War,
iie on the on the precipice. I live in like a wretheon town
or whatever. But just the point of that is to say, like I
don't look, I don't know the true like I'm not saying I know the
truth or anything, but I can genuinely tell when someone's, you know,
not putting on a show. Like this guy was like I saw some stuff,
they acted like it was normal. I had questions and then they ruined
my life. Basically, I think they're super. It was a huge Canada.
I won't get into it, but Wretheon is is radiant. God,
it's it's just lusive for figure that you were talking about the whole show.
It's this semirigrical figure. We're talking about this whole show. It's it's they
were They were invented by vanerver Bush who received these Tesla papers from Trump's uncle
and all all the mythology. He was at the philled Up Experiment. He
was in charge. He was the head of Majestic twelve, but the aliens
and everything. He was at the Manhattan Project. He was like he invented
the transistor that gave us the Internet and everything like like and then he created
Wratheon uh and and and it's just like that's where all like, we're not
we're not sending money to Ukraine, We're sending money to Raytheon and then they
send the bombs to Ucrae. It's like it's there. But the point of
the point of that is like like I've never been canceled on the internet,
but it seems like a lot of these especially in these our communities, people
wear the canceling or I've been shadow banded, or I've been I've been like
I've been got coming up at thirty day band or coming up or they're trying
to cancel me or all this kind of stuff, and they wear it as
like you have to yeah, like like what I'm saying is true, trust
me, because the mainstream doesn't like what I'm saying, so what I'm saying
must be true, and taking a lot of people fooled by that. It's
like you can also like the mein like you mean, it's like because the
mainstream doesn't like what you're saying, doesn't not mean it's not also a lie,
you know, and a lot of like that's a tough thing, like
particular getting grifted a lot like I don't like we've talked about it. I've
never been I get something to say about it. I don't understand that number
one word salad with a ten dollars super chap by the being thanks brother,
Okay, I don't have a war against YouTube, but like I don't,
and if you do something against their policies, they're like, hey, you
can't do this. They give you like warnings or is there something else you
want to do or you want to dispute this, like it takes. I'm
not sure what you actually have to do to get banned to begin with,
unless you're trying to get banned, because I've put stuff up here that technically
should be banned and they've came to me. It's like, hey, man,
this goes against our policies. You can replace it, you can take
it down, or you can dispute it. We're not taking your channel down
or anything like you directly. I don't know, Like I don't understand it
honestly, how people get canceled so easy. Yes, I for sure have
seen people like some people, I mean, free speech is important, trying
corporations are bad, so I'm gonna side with free speech always screw you to
But also I've seen many people with like podcasts and stuff or whatever like try
to get more money by like, oh I've been canceled, send me money.
I mean, it's it's a huge I mean, in the in the
comedy podcast send me money. That's a huge thing. That's not even just
conspiracy stuff. That's just like that's just like even like in the political sphere.
I mean the joke is like like get that like sweet sweet Patreon money
from like the conservative right or whatever. It's like, oh, I've been
canceled on Fox News. Let me go make way more money on Patreon from
everyone who's like I mean, it's it's it's like that's just but it happens
here too. It's people pretend like like I don't want to say any names
or whatever, but some huge, big shows took a huge leap financially.
It's just like it was a good decision financially to make. And just to
say, just to make an app and to make a good financial decision,
she should be fine. Everyone's allowed to make money, but I don't like
when you manipulation. Manipulation. Don't pretend it's for free speech. Don't pretend
it's because you were canceled, because you weren't. I mean, like,
just make money. It's fine, Like I like your show, I'll give
you money, Okay, that's what I say. I say, Look,
if you value this show, give us you know, donate like my share
to donate or something. If you value the show, I'm not going to
trick people tricking dude, you want to know why. I think it's not
just about that. Like, well, I read Art Bill like I'm a
huge R. Bell fan. I don't even like this whole I like radio,
I don't like the whole influencer world, you know, and R Bell
in his book The Art of Talk Radio, which is one of my favorite
audio books, he did he made it imperatively clear in his book. He
said, never manipulate your audience and never lie. You'll be accused of all
these things time and time again all the time, but the important thing is
is that you never do it. Yeah, right, because most people know
just like you know, you don't have the facts or proof, but you
have a hunch that's something ain't right about that, yeah, Versus like if
you knew a person for a long time and somebody's like, oh, yeah,
this person's a manipulative whatever, and you're like, I don't know,
I've been listening to for years. It just didn't seem like that, you
know, exactly, Like I think a lot of influencers and anybody that tries
to manipulate or control things, or play a little game or go to the
drawing board to try to like move ahead in life in any kind of way.
Yeah, it's a piece of shit if you ask me. Yeah,
exactly. Yeah, there's there's a there's a fine line between with the with
the TikTok influences and that type of stuff. It's it's they do more.
It's more like a positive spin. Like with the conspiracy stuff, it's it's
frame more negative, like I'm being oppressed, so give me money with it.
With the TikTok stuff, it's more like but just pretending that what you're
doing is organic even though like sponsored content and spawn con. I just came
out with an app and now you got three games more money, right,
yeah exactly, exactly whatever, just like like all the the whole fitness world
or whatever, and just just like I don't know people, people are like
the people watching you and sending you money are important, you mean, and
like you've been showing in the chat like and you know, you know the
people in the chat that it's a family here. But then like these bigger
people people you see on TikTok and everything, they don't treat it like that.
It's like it's it's like the people are meaningless and they're just being batted
around, like and it just it's it puts a bad taste on mouth or
whatever. And it happens a lot with the biggest stuff to it. I
can tell you that it does get hard. Like there was a point in
time, and I'll just say, like when the show was at a level
where I couldn't keep up with everything, you know, and like people just
I had people that would message me on Facebook and if I didn't answer them,
they would get like dramatically. You know. I'm like, I don't
understand. So I don't understand how to take this to the next level,
right, because I care abound people. I like deep connections. But if
ever, like you, once you get to a certain level, you can't
give attention to like, you know, everybody, right Yeah, But then
again, I also see what you're saying is some people just disregard to everybody
period, you know, and you don't have to do that either, you
know. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like like one of my favorite
people is like duncan trustle or whatever, and he's big enough. I mean,
he's like a million downloads a month, whatever. So if I was
like, yeah, if I was to send him an email, I would
not expect him to return that email. I'm sure he gets a lot of
emails. But I might be loved. He might. He might but like
but I but I also believe that he loves his audience. I mean,
I don't believe he's trying to manipulate his audience. That he cares about his
audience. But you have to understand, as somebody who like, if you're
in a some kind of weird, nebulous friendship with the people that you're listening
to, like who don't know you, whatever, whatever, you have to
understand like it goes both ways and stuff like they care about you, but
you have to care about them enough to like give them room to breathe and
stuff like they can't be like you were. For every email you sending,
there's a thousand other ones and stuff too, every message just sending, there's
one hundred other ones. And so it's like, I believe Duncan, you
have to create an atmosphere where your audience can trust you. I trust Duncan
like cares about the idea of his audience, like he does know it's all
he cares about us, so that when he doesn't respond, it's not a
slight to me. But if like you curate an audience where it's like combative
or it's like they're all coming to get me, or it's like I'm beeting
cancer and stuff, then your audience is gonna be a bunch of scary freaks.
Who. Yeah, I read a quote from someone who said propaganda was
created not only to confuse, but to exhaust you from caring to try to
find out the truth anymore. Yeah, which I have. Yeah, I
mean people can just get sick of like because you can't see through the veil,
you know. Yeah, it happens. It happened to me. I
mean, look, I was doing the news for the for the station before
and then just the pandemic hit and everything and just my own traumas and just
build up stuff in life. Just I gotta take a break. So you
just even so I probably last year were years past, I probably myself and
being like I listened to everything. I don't create content, but I can
assume everything. I'm a taste maker. But you should create content. Everybody
loves you mean, but but I just mean, like now because of like
the just everything the pressures of the world's putting on me. I don't listen
to I'm just I'm in strict comfort show mode, comfort mode, just re
listening stuff. I'm all pop culture thing, just real easy listening type of
just like that's the politics, isn't the same thing? Well, I'm checking
out of politics, like it's all it's all just blah blah blah. Like
I don't care about that. What's up a Star Wars? Like the whole
world is kind of is kind of going to that, and for sure it's
the tactic. You know. The clolest thing going right now on pop culture
is Fallout. Okay, I gotta watch that. I'm gonna if you played
the video game Fallout like I have, religiously, and you're into the end
of the world thing, and like I usually TV shows screw up video game
series big time, like they did with Halo, but the Fallout one,
it's pretty good. Actually, yeah, you know, did you? Did
you? I gotta I've heard it's good. It's a little weird that they
moved they moved the data crazily like to fit in with this everything that the
Eclipse and World War three and the sort of a war movie coming out and
all kind of crazy chaos for the last week, like they unexpectedly pushed their
head thing up like Fallouts about post nuclear war. Yeah, Fallout right basically,
Yeah, it's a little in to me. I'll play it on this
channel sometimes, you know, but I take it down. I'm trying to
do a gamer channel, but it's different. I started playing it on this
channel and people were like, wait, is this the podcast or is this
a gaming channel? And I'm like, why does it have to be one
or the other, you know, like, I just want to stream this
game because it's fun. Some people liked it, you know. Yeah,
if you're playing games, you should be you should be streaming them for sure.
Yeah. Did you do you play Fallout? Have you ever played it?
My My most recent system is three sixty. I used to I used
to uh on there. No, I used to be a big I would
play. My routine was every day after work, I'd play a full game
of NBA, like full twelve minute quarters whatever. So I played a full
eighty two game season, no simulations like it, like it's like a two
hour game whatever. Put of routine. So I was a gamer in NBA
standards, but not I never had the money to get like I never like
I spend my money on weed on a video games. Basically. I remember
when we did the Fringe Fest. I was like, dang, dude,
he like you are a professional smoker man? Oh yeah, Snoop Dog beat
Bro, Yeah for sure. I mean it's split, it's spliped. So
like if you see me, it's not all straight joints. I I gotta
mix a little tobacco on it. But just because I don't have a Snoop
Dog money, you know that, Like I can't be just smoking straight weed
all the time. But yes, it's not good. That's a it has
a it has a grip over me. You know, it's a dangerous mistress.
You know. Well, I loved having you on here, man,
Like, if it was up to me, I'd stream twenty four to seven.
Honestly, I would be one of those streamers that people are like,
what's Joe doing. I don't know, He's eating peanut butter, you know,
Like I love I love doing this kind of stuff, right, I
don't know why. I love broadcasting. It's fun to me. But if
I had a capable set up to stream video games, I would be I
would that was a mist streaming video games. I think it'd be fun.
I think if we were like playing games like we were playing like Cyberpunk twenty
seventy seven, and oh god, I want to play that so bad.
I don't have a system that I can play it with. That'd be fun,
though, right, that would be That'd be funny, I think.
Yeah. I mean, if you're playing games anyways, you're going stream it,
you know, why not? But yeah, it's been a pleasure for
the thank you. See. Well, I'll get like a hundred subscribers a
week and then one hundred people unsubscribe, and that's like every week, one
hundred and five subscribe, one hundred and five unsubscribed. I don't understand why
it's happening. I think it's a I us took about like the algorithm being
like like a god, almost like it's put you through the bases. This
is the last time that mister Beast. He was like he was like he
was doing all the studying and everything, so he was he was putting to
the time and work in and stuff. But he was like from I had
just one day where I was all the same work, all the same preparation,
all the same everything I was undred hundred yews a day, a hundred
years a day, hundred years a day, and then the next day I
changed nothing. I was still doing the same same work. The next day
ten K, ten K, thirteen K, fifteen K, and just overnight
he didn't change. He was still doing work the whole time. But then
he didn't change anything specifically, and just he was rewarded, like he put
in the effort in the algorithm jokingly rewarded him for it. So I think
if you just keep streaming, streamed to nobody, streamed to ten people,
streamed to ten people, eventually that's kind of the sex story of everyone.
It just manifest. It'll pop off and then have you have you tried kick
yet? I mean it doesn't kick give you like, give you like twenty
doll an hour to stream to like ten people something? No, DG.
Is that is that you bro the lighting the void? Not that fluff or
another? Is that who I think it is? Is that Chuck? What's
up? Bro? Uh? No, I've seen kick, But I get
on there and like twitch and kick and it's like it's just like a bunch
of girls getting attention man, and you know, or even twitch did it
where they opened it up, and I get on there and I want to
find some cool people to hang out with, some gamers, and then there's
just chicks torking them by a hot tub or something like. It just ain't
my vibe, bro, Like it's not my thing, you know, Like
I'm not saying that everybody does that over there. That's not what I'm saying,
but attention. They're all fighting for attention. Yeah, look at me,
Look at me. It's not like it's they're doing it for fun,
even though you can tell like the ones that do do it for fun are
probably the ones that get the more viewers, unless they're girls trying to show
body parts and stuff. Yeah yeah, like that that that that that Kai
guy, that Kai whatever, that that that that number one that I want
to stream or whatever. He seems just like a you just having fun out
there, but he just like I don't know, like it's seem to be
like organically having fun and then the views will come, you know, yeah,
if if you're playing, if you having fun, stream yeah yeah,
I mean maybe maybe maybe tied into like the content somehow, like find like
weird games that could also have like weird themes. I mean like I'm not
a gamer, but all these games I've seen, even like like Got a
war just like like like every like every single game I'm seeing it has like
a Chronos in it has some kind of giant monster, has some kind of
like giant chronos in it. Like there's all kinds of esoterica in every game.
Just maybe like maybe tie that into it. There's I was going to
do a show on that and stream like with a Destiny. Destiny and war
Frame have so much a cult like connotations in them, you know, it's
crazy. Yeah, that'd be cool. But I mean even even if without
that just yeah, if it's a streatment even to nobody, might as well,
you know. But yeah, but it's been a it's been a blast.
I don't want to keep you too long, but thanks for having me.
That's cool, it's cool. Uh yeah, I probably do need to
get out of here anyways, I don't, I don't. I want to
thank everybody for like's the most super chats I think we've ever got. So
that's probably thanks to you, bro. You know. Oh no, hound
Dog and like I'm afraid I'm gonna miss somebody, you know, but hound
Dog and word Salad and who else did I miss Michael? Everybody that donated
don was a DJ. Don I forget who all donated. I'd have to
go back and look. But thank you, guys. Thank You's the point
in it. Masters. You can see that it matters. It's like that's
it's it makes an immediate difference. And just think, what how many dollars
kind of just like nebulously kind of fall out of your pocket to just giant
corporations all day long, like a small, small donation always helps you know,
well, I I want to make something like I've been thinking about,
Like I want to make something that has to do with like gaming and broadcasting
or something. I just sit around and think about something cool I could make
for the with the friend FM other than just like a freaking paranormal radio station
like that's it's boring to me, dude, if we've we've been doing that
for a while, you know, I want to make it into something else.
The next thing. I don't know any music tonight, man, Listen.
I have to ask you this though, if there was one song,
and I'm not saying pick one song like your favorite song, but I am
saying, if there was one track nights talker that you could pick that you
would kind of be embarrassed that people knew that you liked it, but you
really like it. That's the top one. Put me on the spot.
I'm sure there is one. I mean for me, it's like Wilson Phillips,
you know, yeah, I mean, but I like Wilson Phillips.
My go Too Easy one is uh the first CDA ever bought. Like I'm
the I'm the age of the boy. I'm like the boy band. Err
so like like Backstreet Boys, or I was I was five years old for
the first or I was first grade for the first Battory Boys and in SANC
CD, so like my my my gift for summer reading going in going into
first grade was like six six years old. Whatever was the first Battery Boys
CD? So, like justin Timberlake. Growing up was like cool to me.
I would like go to the barber shop and I have like I have
like curly ginger here, and I'd be like, give me like the justin
Timberlake look or whatever. So like I think that so like the SINC and
Batty Boys are like the Temptations in my era, but I know that they're
stupid or whatever. They don't when I grew exactly yeah to me, to
me, new kids aren't really great. And then and then like the generation
after, like the generation after is like justin Bieber in one direction, and
to me, that's trash. I mean, so you got to kind of
be in a certain like age age range to kind of like it. You
know, if I was five years older, I would think that I would
think back to Boys are trashed, maybe, but I don't know. I
mean sure, it's probably better examples than that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's a quick one. I don't have that out here. I should
have already had it pulled up. I would have played it on the way
out, you know. Uh uh the good answer that people are gonna hate.
But if like you're like in my grain basically the call remix or just
a call by the by the Backstory Boys, it's like it's like a later
Backstory Boys song. So from like probably like to like two thousand and three
or whatever, when they're starting to get like fallen off a little bit,
but uh it's oh the jam. But you kind of got it. You
gotta you had to. You gotta have been there at the time, or
you think it's like what the hell is you talking about? You know,
wow, bro, answer your question. If you were to choose one,
I could see you doing the Backstree Boys dance too. You know. Yeah,
I was. I was. I was like six years old or whatever
the time period was. I did uh karaoke Larger than Life with a watch
of my friends. They did karaoke on the station like Gigi and I are
saying Dick in a Box from Saturday Night Live. I remember that for that
song. I came later on the show. I like you. Yeah,
it was fun, man, it was fun. But uh yeah, like
we'll have to do it again on me for a while, you know,
and everybody, Yeah, I'm still U. I call my dad, dad,
if you're listening, Uh, I'll call you something. I'm gonna call
everybody me. It's not it's not a it's not to see what don't mean
to leave you hanging in particular, and everything happens, like you said,
when you get popular, you know, you don't just don't even acknowledge people,
you know, No, I just uh yeah, just my my,
I'm just in my own head all the times. And just if you don't,
you don't like, pull me out, then I won't I won't pull
myself out, you know. So my my best my best friends in the
world at every at every level, my hometown friends, my my college friends,
by just my my my French friends, like all my everybody. I
love you. I love you still the same as I loved you before.
It's just I don't know. I'm bad at reaching out, so I apologize.
But it's fun, fun coming. I said all my exers too,
I love you the same. Yeah. Yeah, seriously though, I mean,
yeah, I'm not mad. I'm not mad at anybody. It's just
that I going through my own stuff and I'm not good with them responding to
messages that type of stuff. But I mean, we don't do Monday nights.
It was a special thing. You know. Everybody came and hang out,
hung out. It was cool. It was a good time. Yeah,
ibody to figure out what to title it, you know, yeah,
I know, Uh, you get to the Light or the Force or something
to the fourth to the fourth I'm saving that one for I'm still I'm still
writing that one down. So I'm hoping opened by by by Star Wars to
day I'll have that more more polished, ready to unveil to the world.
Maybe the cosmic bugs. Apper, tricked by the light, the cosmic bugs.
There we go. I can definitely make a thumb nail for that one.
Cosmic bugs Apper, colon, will you go to the light or whatever?
Just a makeable understand what what's about? But yeah, thank you guys.
I'm sorry my mic is all messed up. I'm sorry. I've been
in the same position the whole time. So I'm sorry, uh the staticky
and don't worry about that. But thank you for being accommodating and forgiving and
uh okay again, thank you really for thank you everybody listening. Yeah,
well, when we'll have you back and then tomorrow night Dave Cruz will be
on so nice. All right, I'll meet up. Let you go,
Thank you, brother, all right, nine, I y'all. Sweet dreams, SA