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Welcome, Welcome to Lighting the Volume. All broadcasting live from a shack on

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a hill in the Mossy Creek bottoms
of Kane Creek, Arkansas. This is

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Lighting the Void live on the Fringe
FM. It's Monday night. I usually

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do music shows Monday night, so
we don't do video, but it's a

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special occasion. It's the only night
I could get a nightstalker on because he's

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such a busy dude, and we're
going to talk all things. I guess

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Wes Penry simulation. It's gonna be
a night stalker night. We might throw

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on some tunes too as well.
And if you're listening live, I'll open

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up the phone line soe you can
call in at five oh one triple seven

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fifty six thirty one. That number
is always a call line. If if

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I don't, if I don't pick
up, then just leave a voicemail.

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And I want to thank Barney for
making a donation. Thank you, brother.

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That was really awesome of you to
do that. Man. And I've

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just been busy, busy, busy, busy, busy. I gotta find

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a hold on night stalker. Where
are you at? Which input are you

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on? Brother? You're here right
you're still here. I'm here, I'm

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here. Okay, you're here.
Good, all right? So man,

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how you been, Dude, I
ain't talk to you in a long time.

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That's a bit. How about your
brother? I mean fine, we

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talked a little bit a few weeks
ago. Ro Man. Yeah, just

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more the more of the same,
nothing, nothing too crazy, just the

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usual usual grind. But uh glad
to be glad to be uh glad to

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be back. Lighting up a little
welcome back splip to begin the show,

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and let's get into it, you
know, welcome back split nice hearing the

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intro and everything. It's like a
little nossalga for me. We got a

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busy week this week, man.
We got Dave Cruiz tomorrow night. We've

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got Mike Martin Wednesday night. We've
got Ronnie Pontiac who Thursday night, who

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was the last student of Manley P. Hall or I think one of the

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last students of Manley P. Hall
is going to be on the show.

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So it's guests all week. So
i'd but to show you how important this

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was. Like I was roofing all
day, all the way till dark.

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I had less than an hour to
get ready, hadn't ate anything all day,

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jumped off the roof, had tall
all over me, went into the

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bathroom, just splashed water all over
me. You know, ran and got

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some pizza host bath. Yeah exactly, ran and got some pizza and they

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came back just to just to hang
out with you. Dude's thanks for It

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was a tax day for me.
I had a bunch of series of like

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forty five minute naps, and I
kept waking up and oh shit, I

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gotta do this, I gotta do
this, and uh, I'm gonna get

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my I'm gonna get my second wind
right now talking to you guys. But

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yeah, yeah, here we are. Tax it's going to be back.

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I'm probably a couple of years behind
on taxas. I gotta be honest with

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you. I don't like even messing
with the government. I hate I hate

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it. So I always leave it
to the very last day because I don't

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I don't even get mine back anyways. Mine goes to my college loans or

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whatever. So I'm in no rush
to ever to ever really do it.

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But it's a pain in the ass. Rivers showed up river. She was

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she was talking about Elier. She's
like, I don't understand the American tex

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system. At all. She says
that meme of like like dad, like

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why do I got to do my
taxes? It's because of like if you

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don't, they'll if like you come
and get you, Well do I gotta

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do it? Like do we have
to do it right? Like how do

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I figure it out? Well,
if you don't do it right, they'll

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know the like well if they know
how much I owe, Like why don't?

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What do I need to do it? You know, it doesn't make

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any sense. It's like this crazy, weird system where there's just it just

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may discrew you. You know,
it's only there to like discrewer. I

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really don't understand it, so I
applaud you for for drifting it for the

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last few years or whatever. I'm
not trying to do like the Bill Cooper

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thing where you know I'm against it. It's just there's so much stuff that

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gets taxed that we don't know what
it is. You know, we just

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don't. I mean, you're you're
self employed too, so it was probably

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a little a little trigger. Mine
mind. Couldn't be easier. Mine's the

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easiest you can possibly do. You're
the same same thing for the last like

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fifteen years or whatever. It's enough. It's bad enough that it costs,

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you know, ten dollars for a
pack of cigarettes one hundred and twenty dollars

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for a full tank of gas,
and then they tax your dollar on top

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of that. I know, man, it's bad. Bummer. I don't

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want to think about it, to
be honest, what are you indeed talking

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about? Tomorrow? Dave is going
to talk about the nephilin. I think

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we're going to talk about the Nephilim
and the giants and stuff. And because

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days really big into that. And
uh, I apologize for my green screen,

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like I've I don't have professional lighting. I got dollar general bulbs in

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here, so it's hard to get
it to look right. Now that's cool.

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I can't even be on video.
I'm using for everybody listening, I'm

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using my cell phone, so uh, be patient with the audio and everything.

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But I just don't want to embarrass
myself using the selfie camera holding it

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up all show and everything. But
now it looks good, it looks cool.

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Experienced some kind of weird AI Michael
Jackson set or something like that from

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the from the Future. We're some
music video. It's like it's lagging a

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little bit, like something's messing with
my settings on here, you know,

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but whatever, man who cares?
So I gotta thing I want to talk

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to you about. So Michael and
Michael's wife, I think her name is

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Angela, they got their shirts.
You guys look great in those shirts,

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by the way. And then Gareth, our buddy who's we've been I want

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to talk to you about this tonight
night start. But he got his T

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shirt. So we do ship T
shirts to London, right, So if

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we make five to six bucks off
every T shirt you buy, so you

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could donate twenty five to thirty bucks, or if you want to donate thirty

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bucks, but you want something,
you're still donating, right, So you're

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getting a shirt, and that's how
it works. But I have my pre

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shirts my it's my work bag.
I've got it. I've had it in

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my work bag. I mean when
I don't wear it, it's like I

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have a sweatshirt let in for sweatshirt
still on right now. Like I wear

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it every day since I've since I
got it, and I keep the I

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keep the shirt in my work bag
because like when I first caught both of

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them, I was I got like
in a fight with like my old boss,

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or I got in trouble or something, and I feel like a sigil

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protecting me in that moment. So
because of that, I don't know the

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shirt in my bag all the time
with me at all times, every single

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day, it is a sigil of
protection. Man, I got like,

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I got it tattooed on my arm. Bro, I'm not right on it.

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Yeah, hell yeah yeahin the shirts
for sure, it says I'd like,

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I'd love to hit the like button. But YouTube's new using their face

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got rid of it on all the
live streams. That's terrible. Why they

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do that. Stupid They shut out
the chat everybody. YouTube is always changing

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stuff, man, that's what This
is why you got to have This is

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why like we have to we're only
like sixty five dollars away from keeping the

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Fringe FM up, but we're also
sixty five dollars away from it going getting

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shut down. Yeah, but this
is why we like keep it running because

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we don't know what's gonna happen,
you know, like what, it's not

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that like digital radio is cool,
but it really is sometimes the only platform

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that we have. I'm not saying
YouTube is gonna like they've been kind of

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cool, with me. But then
the other day they took Dan Henderson's video

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down because I guess he was talking
about COVID or something. I don't know,

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and they just said, we're taking
this down, and I'm like,

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okay, well, what can you
do about it? You know, yeah,

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I mean I don't I don't follow
the I don't have TikTok er all

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the kind of stuff. And it's
a it's a different thing, but there

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are people who are depending, like
you're having your career and your like livelihood

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based on some kind of some nebulous
corporation that you can't get in touch with

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if you get banned, you can't
get in contact with them, and it's

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it's the worst process ever. And
then you've been Now you have an entire

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app in TikTok where people are like
quitting their jobs to be TikTok influencers,

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and now there's a chance they're going
to like completely lose the app. And

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what do they do? You know, they don't have any like friendship them

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or any kind of like infrastructure like
to keep this keep this stuff going,

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you know, like I don't know, like it sucks. They have to

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be at the whims of a corporation. Yeah. Well here's the thing too,

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I'm never going to stop asking for
donations. I'm never gonna stop trying

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to keep this thing growing. I'm
never going to stop talking about it.

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So if you don't like it,
you need to go, you know,

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because it doesn't. It's being a
listener supported. Like we get partners and

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stuff every now and then, Like
Mary's a partner, just bs me is

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a partner. But they're small folk
like us. Man, they're bumper sticker

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businesses, and you know they can't
really afford like major sponsorship stuff, right,

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so we do what we can for
them. And bumper stickers are still

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cool by the way, you know. Yeah, And I mean, like,

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I mean, money's tight for everybody
to understand that and stuff. But

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just when it goes, when it
goes to like places like like this,

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I mean, you know where it's
going. You know, you know where

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it's going. It's it's more important
than like, I don't know for me,

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the extra comic booker, I don't
I don't even know what I'm just

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I mean, it sounds cliche,
but just help it bread out. You

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know you can hear right now listening, he's giving me free content I mean,

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help it bread out. He doesn't
ask for much. You know,

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I've sacrificed a lot for this station. Man, people don't know, and

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I don't care to tell him because
it because I don't want to be that

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guy. That's like I've done all
this stuff, you know, and you

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just start pouting, you know,
like I don't want to be that dude.

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I don't like to beg steal or
borrow. I don't like to do

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any of that stuff. So but
you know, we all need help me.

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Like Night's Talker, We're going We're
gonna have to do a fundraiser to

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get you a freaking laptop. Bro. Oh yeah, I'll hopepefully. Maybe

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maybe I can get some of my
some my my state taxis backet middle you

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can go to it towards it.
But yeah, hopefully at some point I

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can I can get in the game. But yeah, don'torry about man.

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Here's the thing, here's what I
wanted to talk to you about, and

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then we'll throw in some music and
stuff. So for the past few weeks,

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I've been reading this book called Deal
Ryan Books. So just hear me

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out so you understand what's going on. So a friend of ours who's really

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a good friend of ours. Gareth
reached out and he said, look,

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man, you know I'm reaching I've
been diagnosed with ALS, which means I'm

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reaching the end stages of my life. And I've been reading these books,

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and these books have been telling me
that when I die, it's just a

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big trick, like my loved ones
are going to be there, but it's

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a big trick. Or don't go
to the light. It's a big trick.

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It's a trick. And I'm reading
these books. So I've been reading

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these books on air trying to you
know, like figure it out, figure

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out, you know, like if
there's any truth to it at all,

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just to try to help them.
But after reading Jason Quit's book, I

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got to say, man, like
I think all these well, I don't

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want to skip ahead, so let
me tell you the full story of this.

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So this guy is claiming like he
knows a lot of stuff, but

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he's that we're in this kind of
simulated reality where the planet is made into

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like a prison for energy, and
there is an actual universe, we just

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can't see it because it's kind of
simulated and covered. No souls can get

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in and out of the universe,
and it's not really a fatherly created god.

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It's a queen that's running things and
from Orion. Basically it's Orion that's

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running. And so they've they've made
this big simulation and that Lucifer, Uriel,

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and Inky are the same person and
it's actually this queen's I think it's

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this queen's son or step son.
I forget if it's a step son or

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son. And he rebelled against the
queen and like, so he's it's really

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just this Lucifer character that's running everything
here and inside the simulation, keeping us

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in this like recycling bin, you
know. And I read I've been reading

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this book. In this book is
chalk full of great information, except for

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the one hundred and fifty pages on
narcissism and how the gods are narcissistic.

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And then he talks about narcissism,
so obviously the guy has been like tortured

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by narcissists in his life or something. But I wonder what your thoughts on

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something like that, because I know
I could just break this whole thing down

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to you and be like, what
do you think? You know? I

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mean, it's a complicated one,
for sure. It's it's it's it's it

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really when it gets down to it, it's kind of like the ultimate,

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the ultimate question. It's like what
do you what do you do with that

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moment at that at that at that
big final adventure, you know, and

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I and I don't know. I've
heard there's that book like the Trick by

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the Late Book where I don't know, it's just kind of that cosmic bug

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zapper, that thing kind of why
do why do bugs going to the bug

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zapper when like, what's what is
it that's kind of fooling them? I

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mean, does it feel good to
them? Kind of like everyone kind of

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says, well, at that moment, just trust your trust, your instincts,

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trust your intuition, trust your gut
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some kind of oh look at it, it's so beautiful. Oh it feels

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so warm and nice before they get
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pretty effective mechanism if you were like
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like you were feeding on the recycled
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lot of ancient mythologies to ideas to
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preture we get to it, but
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I don't know. I don't.
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what are you going to do when
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I don't know the answering. So
look at that DEBD five dollars.

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Barnie, appreciate that. Thank you, thank you. That's awesome. Thank

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you. So here's the thing.
What he says is, and this was

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the last part of the book that
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this light tunnel. So there's holes. There's this grid that we're in,

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right, and there's holes in the
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grid that looks like it's into the
unknown, that place is actually going to

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take us to a rin so we
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this this character did was he took
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and made this light tunnel. So
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our love energy. So this is
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go through it. But the light
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bin. So when we die,
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to the light and look for like
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a simulation reality, then I don't
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of crazy light bait, you know, whatever the mechanism, if it's if

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it's our own lover or whatnot,
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trust your instincts. You won't be
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sure when a fish like a fish
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could smell really awesome, when there's
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bobbing up and down, they might
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like two, I mean, there's
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capital P phenomena when we're dealing with
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like non physical that's interacting with us
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on our reaction first and foremost.
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our mind and kind of like where
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our emotions, like like the wolf
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and it's just like really, it
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do anything right, It makes you
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you know, graphic, but think
about all the people that are about to

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masturbate, and then all of a
sudden they think, oh wait, there's

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a there's a wolf here or something
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not going to enjoy this at all. And if I do, this person's

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gonna take my energy. Like I
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flat Earth. They got this ship
going so much. Everybody scared to do

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anything anything good in life, pleasure, fun, anything, it's all gonna

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get sucked into this light tunnel,
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does it take our hugs too?
Like can we hug people? You know

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what I mean, Like, well, what's going on? Yeah, it's

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a thing. Yeah, And what
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they talk about keep your thoughts like
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kind of manifesting our own reality type
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quantum physics is getting to this point
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if it's a construct, if it's
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to render that simulation it has to
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rendering machine. And then something the idea

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of being like something got in that
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some kind of like byproduct that something
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the negative stuff better. The positive
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to them. But if they can
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afraid of stuff and really just like
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they seem they seem to like that. So the idea is to get that

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machine rolling in this fear mechanism.
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news feed reminds me of like AI
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and algorithms that are feeding on our
hate clicks, like the things that you

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don't like rise to the top of
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this these like arconic sentiences already feeding
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up one hundred years, one thousand
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we got we got archons and stuff. And it's just like it's like,

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yeah, I don't know, I'm
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like we're in this weird kind of
it be trippy to think about that,

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Like you never you think you've had
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where it's like like because the technology
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big in the AI is like a
demon type thing that we're not. We're

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not building a sentience. We're like
communicating with like building high technology and then

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communicating with something that already exists.
It's we're building like a high tech Wuiji

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board or whatever. So it's like, if you're looking at humanity, it's

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like, at what point were we
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and so separates us from the animals
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what if this whole thing is some
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giant machine or something like that that
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sentience getting us like neat puppet machines
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body for it, build a vessel
for it, which is AI, and

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then like it takes our, it
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free will is just we're just machines
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for some kind of force, that
arconic force, and then when we serve

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our one hundred years or seventy five
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into the machine, spit out and
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It really it's scary. It's dark
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like, that's what that's what this
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lose for in all his minions can't
go back to Orion. They're not allowed

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to go back. The only way
that they can go back is through because

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we're these like creative beings, so
they can use our being to go back

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as different avatars that they're trying to
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through uh nanotech and uh what else
did he say? Nanotech and something else?

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Something something where it'll use like they'll
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to go back, almost almost like
some kind of super high tech biological hologram

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technology type thing. It's like it's
like they have to. It's like they

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have to in order to exist in
our in this reality, they have to

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like shoot themselves through us. It's
like the it's the idea that the gods

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are kind of always fighting for our
attention. It's like these these non physical

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things in order to have power,
in order to have any kind of influence

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on this realm. They need our
devotion, our offerings are like our rights

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and that type of stuff. So
and we're sounds so crazy though, it

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just sounds trippy, it's all.
Yeah, it really does. I don't

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know, but I resonate more with
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it's like, I mean, whether
it's Ryan or Saturn or or whatever,

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like the the reincarnations, the trap
you want to get out of that game.

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Yeah, but the a lot of
the O Ryan Lucifer Lord he's talking

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about. Yeah, I think that's
more like kind of sci fi stuff.

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Yeah, he's flipping all of Stitching's
work on its head exactly, Yeah,

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exactly, and saying, well,
it's not really what you think. So

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Lucifer Inky, Lucifer Inky, and
this archangel Uriel all the same person,

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and they've been tricking us this whole
time. The god that we've been worshiping,

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especially in our religions, has basically
been Lucifer. Especially in the Mystery

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schools, they know it's Lucifer,
which Lucifer like in the misde Schools,

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lucifers and Lucifer is a representation of
a certain type of energy. But nobody's

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like worshiping that the altar of Lucifer, Like, no one's doing that in

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the mystery schools that there are Satanic
groups that put up statues of like bapha

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Met that look nothing like the original
Baphomet. They put children on it and

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make it look all crazy, you
know, and it's like an effigy that

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they worship. But it's just this
stuff is so volatile and like is that

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crazy? No one can find the
truth, you know exactly. I think

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it's less. It's really super complicated. I have a lot of thoughts on

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it, but it's not very linear. I think it's less Lucifer and Satan

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and more like Saturn. I mean
that it's it's something, it's something older

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like, and you can take that
to like the second the false Sun Saturn

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theories. At one point, Saturn
was kind of the dominant like God in

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the sky, kind of the dark
Father, the Old Father type type type

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of thing. And that ties in
with even like the David Ike type of

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type of Saturn death matrix, time
cube type, contracts, constructs and all

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that type of stuff. Right,
But like with narcissism, it gets super

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like I have a real conspiracy paradigm
with narcissism. So if you were to

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like ask like Chris Knowles or like
the Aon Bite guys, they would probably

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say, I'm not the only ones
that convince me of any of this.

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Yeah, exactly, but I'm not
sure. Still there's a lot of like

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pro pro Christian narcissism out there,
so I'm not sure if that's like I'm

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My idea of it is that the
Abrahamic God the Christian God. And this

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is not necessarily what I believe.
This is just my understanding of narcissism.

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Is that the Christian Abrahamic God is
the demiurge. It's the bad one and

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the and the good one or the
creator, the one that actually like is

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the god of the entire universe,
is the neutral mondad and that thing does

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not interfere at all. And then
the thing that we've been worshiping as as

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God, as Jehovah, whatever is
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dimension, prison planet Earth, or
whatever. So funny enough, all of

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magic is based on Jehovah and Jehovah's
angels and the demons that they run like.

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Yeah, exactly, and that the
and that the monad or whatever it

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is kind of that loving awareness that
like Roald Dust talks about, or that

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kind of that pure light, like
the not the false light of the the

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trick by the light orion type stuff, but like that's true light they talk

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about behind behind that darkness that you
look at, you gotta look for inside

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that black hole, you gotta look
for whatever. But it's neutral, it's

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not it doesn't act on things,
it doesn't have like a will of its

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own. It's just it's just the
totality of all of all that is.

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So he calls it like, what's
it? Thank you New England, Derek

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Roady for the five bucks, Thank
you brother, thank you? Shut U

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tell ya? Uh the uh.
So he's stuck on the idea that the

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god that created this place is super
narcissistic, which to me it kind of

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makes sense because he acts like a
toddler when he doesn't get his way.

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I'll just not And that's kind of
what narcissists do though, when they don't

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get their way. They don't just
punish you or say you hurt my feelings

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like they torture you. Yeah,
yeah, it's it's just like it's pure

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pure shadow, self, pure ego. It's like the neutral Monad in order

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to experience. In fact, it's
like it's the it's the Monad just puts

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into the Diad splits eventually into Infinity. It's the it's the neutral Monad having

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to experience like infinity, like infinity. Okay, so in order to do

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that, they had to split into
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the So right now, I'm prepping. You're a Star Wars guy, right

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yeah? Hell yeah? Oh yeah. So I'm not sure if he had

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this conversation before back in the day, but I'm not really a huge Star

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Wars guy. Like my my I
was like a big I am right now,

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but like, you're not a trekky
man? Are you a tracking well?

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So yeah, so this past year
I was not I was not a

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Star Wars guy. I was not
a star I was not a Star Trek

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Trek guy. I was like born
and raised on superheroes and my power ranges

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and that type of stuff, but
my my parents aren't sci fi people,

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so I was never really like they
both both of those franchises seemed a little

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old to me. I never got
into the prequels when they came out for

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some reason my parents took me there
or whatever. So I was kind of

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like, are we sure like Star
Wars is good? Are we sure a

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Star Trek is good? But then
last year I just watched everything. I

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just I had like a couple months. I just watched everything. It's wild

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and just it's I have appreciation for
it and everything, but my perspective on

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it is different than like everyone else
because everyone else is experiencing it like as

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of happening and having to wait and
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and my takeaway is like, are
we sure that the Force is good?

403
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:10.920
So right now I'm like watching everything
again in order to form this gnostic

404
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.039
Star Wars thing, which I don't
theory, which I don't think exists right

405
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:18.119
yet. And it's like I think
both sides of the Force. I think

406
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:23.720
the Force is the demiurge, and
that both sides light and dark, like

407
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:27.039
the light side thinks they're doing stuff
for good, like a Christian, a

408
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:30.920
Christian warrior in the Crusades or whatever
it thinks they're working for good whatever,

409
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:36.839
but the end results is blood,
death and chaos on earth. But here's

410
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:38.480
the thing, bro, Like what
you just said makes sense. So when

411
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:41.279
you listen to these people, they
act like, oh no, we're being

412
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.359
tricked by religion. And I'm like, I don't think you read your books

413
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:51.039
enough sometimes, man, like Isaiah
in the Book of Isaiah, he says,

414
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:53.720
I form the light and create the
darkness. I form the good and

415
00:27:53.759 --> 00:28:00.039
create the evil. I make all
of it. Oh yeah, so how

416
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.359
is that? I think if you
come from this place like, oh,

417
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:07.839
God is an all loving god,
love light, and and it just only

418
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.759
love, right, then, yeah, I could see where you would feel

419
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:14.759
like you've been tricked. But it
lightly states in that book, I created

420
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.039
both sides of this thing. Yeah
to me. To me the reassurance,

421
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.920
to me, it's it's a neutral
mondad. So it's everything. So it's

422
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.799
the best stuff and the worst stuff
in every shade of grade in between.

423
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:32.000
And so and you're it's like a
combination of destiny and free will you have

424
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:37.200
like your destiny is kind of your
trajectory, kind of like your momentum based

425
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.680
on the choices that you're making.
But free will is that under that totality,

426
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.680
under that the idea of infinity,
it's any single reality that you want

427
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.640
to if you want to be a
good person, and those options are available

428
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:49.839
to you. If you want to
be a bad person, those options are

429
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:53.000
also available to you. It's just
cause and effect. You have to understand

430
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:59.480
the effects of the causes really exactly
exactly so but so, but just and

431
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.920
then in the moment it's tough to
see, so you can do so again.

432
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:06.119
If you're like, I'm not saying
again this is my beliefs, I'm

433
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.599
just saying, under this paradigm,
if you're if you're going to live an

434
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:15.240
entire lifetime being completely pure to the
to the Christian word or whatever. But

435
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.400
if you zoom out on the time
scale and look at like a two thousand

436
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:23.880
year time period, if that those
words and those things could be moving humanity

437
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.599
in a direction that we don't necessarily
want to be, which could be like

438
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:33.599
creating AI or creating our replacement,
or creating this prison planet more so building

439
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.359
the prison bars around us or whatever. In order to do that, you

440
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:41.160
need, like like locomotion, you
need to push in a pull inhale on

441
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.519
next sale, you need two forces
to tug, like to go to make

442
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.680
it and to go anywhere you mean. So with Star Wars, I'm just

443
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.839
using that of the meniforms make sense
back around the Star Wars here it goes

444
00:29:55.240 --> 00:30:00.839
it's HiT's that like in order through. I think the force is not neutral.

445
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.680
So when I bring this up to
a Star Wars fan, and again

446
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.400
people don't like this because they spent
their whole lives believing that they're Luke and

447
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.200
that the force force is God or
it's like some kind of neutral Buddhist thing,

448
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.079
or it is whatever you make it. So I'm like, so,

449
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.640
what's the conversation I'm I could be
happening is are we sure the force is

450
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:19.079
good? And they're always like,
no, the Force isn't good, it's

451
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.440
it's nothing. It's whatever you make
it is. The Force just is.

452
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.039
And it's like, no, that's
not what happens though. That's not the

453
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.880
result of anything the force. The
result is every time balance is achieved quote

454
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.799
unquote, balance is achieved at the
end of a trilogy, when it comes

455
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.720
back the next time, it is
way worse for the galaxy, way worse.

456
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.799
And what do you mean? Every
time balance is achieved, it's way

457
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.599
worse. What do you mean that
it comes back the next time? So

458
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.200
it's like, for a moment,
there's some kind of like pieces achieved.

459
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:48.319
Oh, we took out Darth.
Oh we took out Kylo, Oh,

460
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.720
we took out whatever, and but
then the next time the Empire comes back

461
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:59.279
ten tenfold worse, with like a
bigger death Star or like ten thousand ships

462
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:00.799
that are all at more powerful than
the Death Star. Or it's like the

463
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:08.119
average citizens of the galaxy are struggling
real bad as these like space military magicians

464
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.160
that are fighting amongst each other and
just just blown planets up and everything.

465
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.359
And it's like, I think it's
are there some Darth sifth lord sneaking into

466
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:21.960
the Republic right after everything is exactly
I mean in the prequel trilogies, it's

467
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.200
literally like it's the it's the Jedis
who were in the government at this point,

468
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.599
so it's like one sect of the
government versus So there's like an openly

469
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.440
bad side. There's like the dark
side, and then there's what we think

470
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.079
is the good side, but the
good side. During the Clone Wars and

471
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.160
stuff, every single mission that they're
on is from Palpatine, who's the most

472
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.960
powerful bad guy possible. So it's
like both sides are both doing the instructions

473
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.240
on for the bad side, and
it just it leads to But I think

474
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.759
it's going to happen for the series
is what we're going to get a Force

475
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:59.680
wielding droid that the chosen one is
not Anakin. It's not Luke, It's

476
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.400
not you think it's going to be
like a Scenti Chi machine. It's a

477
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.960
it's an Ai that it's it's the
Force. It's an archonic force puppeting humanity

478
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:12.799
to make a more perfect vessel for
itself, which is a machine in our

479
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.559
case. In reality, it's Ai
an archon in the Force. It's a

480
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:22.079
droid. And here's here's what I'm
gonna say though, Like Force, the

481
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:28.440
Force also shows the the sexual forces, especially in the New ones. Right,

482
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.000
So you got the dark Sith Lord, the young guy Ben and the

483
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:37.000
goodie two shoe girl, right,
and that's trying to be a Jedi or

484
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.599
whatever. These two forces are pulling
towards each other. You know the girl's

485
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.119
going to Girls always go for the
bad boys in reality, right, because

486
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.319
bad boys represent what pure masculine energy. But they can make them good.

487
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.880
They can put their little circle around
this masculine energy and turn it into a

488
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.160
beautiful thing. That's what they always
trying to do, right, Yeah,

489
00:32:55.200 --> 00:33:00.720
These two forces are the sexual creative
forces of the universe. These two forces

490
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:07.880
are the forces that cause us to
achieve things, that give us desire and

491
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:13.599
will and fire. These two forces
are the forces of everything. So,

492
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.039
whether it's power or whatever, it's
all basically sexual. And I don't just

493
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:23.680
mean in the like physical mundane word
of sexual. So if you look at

494
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:29.000
it like on a cosmic scale,
right from bottom to top. Bottom is

495
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.880
anytime there's an orgasm on the earth. When love comes together and an orgasm

496
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.119
happens, it makes a child.
It's also it's the lowest, most densest

497
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:45.319
form of experiencing God. Right then, Kundalini is when you experience the higher

498
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:50.720
force in the same fashion. It's
still the sexual forces, but it's also

499
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:53.839
the same fashion when you experience it
in your body in a higher way,

500
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:58.200
which is what we're supposed to do
spiritually. But these two forces are at

501
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.119
play all the time. Think it's
money and it's all the stuff, it's

502
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:06.480
not. It's these two forces all
the time that are running everything you know,

503
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.920
and so I think that's in Star
Wars for sure, for sure,

504
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:15.920
for sure. And it's so if
we're experiencing it as a human, then

505
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:22.480
there's like different like I don't know
if it's just if you zoom way way

506
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.159
way way out and you're some type
of like watch your figure or archonic force

507
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:31.920
or something that experiences time or outside
of time or whatever, then then like

508
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:38.920
the experience of the intermingling between the
masculine and feminine energy are or like a

509
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:43.719
carrot and a stick in order to
produce a new being in order to produce

510
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:50.000
a new vessel for consciousness to inhabit. Run. Okay, So my point,

511
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.760
the reason why I said that is
when you if you put consciousness in

512
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:59.599
a machine and you take away the
alpha and omega, which is the creative

513
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:07.320
forces, right only only saying sexual
because it's their gender forces, right that

514
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.360
that pull they pull together and they
push apart. They pull together and they

515
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:13.119
push apart. That's energy, Like
I said, I mean, you know,

516
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.679
I agree. So if if you
put that, let's say you put

517
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:22.679
consciousness in a machine, those two
natural forces start to become less. It's

518
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:27.840
like taking the force out of the
equation. I think it will manifest in

519
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:32.039
a way that we don't recognize right
now that that there will be like for

520
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.760
for us, it's like a for
humanity, it's like a sexual energy,

521
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.039
it's like a million of female but
for a black hole it's just open and

522
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:43.679
closed, or for ampute, for
machine in a different way that makes sense.

523
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.119
It's it's it's it's ones and zeros
and stuff. It's it's like and

524
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.119
for sure, like like the story
is being told, like even Lucas themselves

525
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:57.519
says the Star Wars is being told
through the narrator of like R two mostly.

526
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.880
So that's why it's in binary.
That's why it's it's it's always the

527
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:06.880
like the the interaction between these opposing
forces the whole time, because that was

528
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.119
how a machine would tell it in
ones and zeros and light and dark and

529
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:14.840
stuff in this very little intermediary space
whatever. But I think it's like it's

530
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:16.920
not just being told by a droid. It's gonna it's the droid story,

531
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.679
and that like under a neutral monad
paradigm that like, I don't know,

532
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:29.400
it's it gets it gets real tricky, like in order it was just yeah,

533
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:32.920
I don't know, in order for
yeah, there's a machine will be

534
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:39.119
a more perfect vessel for an iconic
force to acts will on the universe,

535
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:44.519
or even just a neutral monad to
experience reality. Already, it's already in

536
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:46.800
the workings, man, I mean, if it wanted to, it's already

537
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:51.000
in the workings, New England dirt
Road. He says, is it possible

538
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.800
for a male to retent? I
guess is what you're saying, ejaculate or

539
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.199
he retains the seed and sends the
energy up the spine to the crown.

540
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:04.079
Yeah, that's TNTRA. But you
don't have to do it yourself, honestly.

541
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.079
I mean, you could do that
yourself, but if you want to

542
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:08.840
get into the mysteries of TNTRA,
it's better to do it. Whether if

543
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:12.920
you're a guy, it's better to
do with a female partner, honestly,

544
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:19.159
Like is that you don't you just
it's kind of like never ending for play,

545
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.079
but you do it with love.
You have to open your heart all

546
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.519
the way. It's a question,
a question. So that's kind of the

547
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:30.760
idea behind don't have sex if you're
a boxer before fight because kind of because

548
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.639
it builds up, Yeah, exactly, It's not like it's not like women

549
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:39.480
weaken legs, but you're at your
peak energy. Yeah. So also kind

550
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:43.119
of also with the gnostic stuff a
little bit, like people who point it

551
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.119
look at the results of the Christian
Church, look at what so specifically the

552
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.960
Catholic Church, and look at the
priests and the pedophiles and stuff. And

553
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:53.199
one argument is that because they're not
allowed to have sex or even masturbate,

554
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:57.880
that it like warps their brain.
And like, I mean, obviously a

555
00:37:57.920 --> 00:37:59.800
lot of guys can relate to the
fact that like, dude, yeah,

556
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:04.440
I like your thoughts, your thoughts
after you come versus beforehand. Are you're

557
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.000
gonna make different decisions before and after? So it's like where's the line.

558
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:12.920
I mean, we're your girl will
tell you that's the truth, but it

559
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.320
seems to be a more immediate thing
for like for us a little bit.

560
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.239
But like but why don't you cuddle
and you're like you just turn into a

561
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.960
different person and you smoke right,
Well I'm done. Thanks. Yeah,

562
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:29.480
it's like where's the line. Where's
the line between like retention and gaining superpowers

563
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:34.320
versus like warping your brain? And
like yeah, see that's the thing is

564
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:38.199
like there's a whole practice to like
open up these energy centers, this whole

565
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:44.679
TNTRA thing, and then to feel
the energy between masculine and feminine. But

566
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.000
the thing is is you have to
be able to like you don't have to

567
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.880
open your heart. You can strictly
do it from the sexual centers, but

568
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:54.440
it's blocking everything else. Right,
So if you can really and this is

569
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.280
what I think, if there's a
sign up going on, for sure,

570
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.559
it's to close not only people third
eyes, but their hearts, right,

571
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:07.719
they're harsh. So if you can
open your heart up all the way to

572
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.480
someone, which is better if you
really do love someone to practice with,

573
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:15.360
even though it makes it harder because
usually if you're that into somebody, it's

574
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:19.960
hard, right, But that's the
point. You're supposed to sit in that

575
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.960
energy. And the more you let
that energy build up and the more you

576
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:28.480
open your heart, like, the
more you feel this force, like this

577
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:34.159
divine energy, right, and it
is magical actually, But some people say,

578
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:38.239
oh, it's just oxytocin or whatever, Like your feelings are not pathological,

579
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.880
they're not. There's something more to
them than that, right, Like

580
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.639
people just don't know that. It's
just it's it gets complicated to where it's

581
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:51.440
like, how many of them are
like based on the programming and stuff,

582
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.639
and it's possible. Yeah, I
know it's possible to do it by yourself.

583
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:58.119
It's sure possible, but it's I'm
telling you to get the peak effect.

584
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:02.000
It's better to to really love someone
else here. You're not here to

585
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:07.360
be alone, or you would be
designed to be alone. You had been

586
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.719
designed that way, and you would
be alone, you know, yeah,

587
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:17.159
exactly. But I'm still thinking after
reading Jason Quit's book, like I think

588
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:22.239
all this is bullshit, and I'll
tell you why that could be wrong.

589
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:24.800
But is that what he's talking about, going full gnostic? Right? Yeah,

590
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.079
he's not. I don't think it's
full. I got to finish the

591
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.960
book because I promised him I do
a review on his book. But basically,

592
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:37.119
all of these gods, all of
these all of these cast systems and

593
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:40.880
gods and the stories and the mythologies
and everything. Like Joseph Campbell is on

594
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:44.920
to something when he's like, there's
are there all archetype of energies. Okay,

595
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:50.800
we understand that, but when you
really pick apart their names and the

596
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:55.440
years they were born and all the
numbers that the stories tell, like if

597
00:40:55.480 --> 00:41:00.199
you use code, Basically what I'm
saying, so it kind of is technology.

598
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:06.280
This code shows the same fingerprint and
every story of creation, It shows

599
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:12.920
a numerological and geometrical story of creation
behind each character, whether it's Lucifer,

600
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.760
Uriel, Marduke, all these different
stories, it all comes down to the

601
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:22.880
same fingerprint and code. So then
if that's the case, then this and

602
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.400
all this other stuff can't be real. Or could it be because they're not

603
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.559
even real characters, they're just made
up mythologies of that explain this energy,

604
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:38.559
right, Yeah, it could be. Like, uh, I was watching

605
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:45.119
like last year, I watched the
Alien documentary, like the making of the

606
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:47.199
movie Alien and stuff, and they
were just kind of talking about how these

607
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.599
like we're kind of where those ideas
come from, and kind of how these

608
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:57.559
kind of ancient ideas and these like
even like love Craftyan type ideas seem to

609
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.480
constantly becoming like recyclums over and over
again. And one of the guys compared

610
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:06.840
it to like cimatics, where it's
like imagine like a speaker or some kind

611
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.000
of like sound or whatever, and
you have the sand on top of it,

612
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:13.639
and the sound is like creating the
pattern, so the sand will vibrate

613
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.880
into a certain shape whatever, and
like, so imagine just we're the sand

614
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:22.719
and you like turn the machine on
it and it's vibrating into that shape and

615
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.599
turn it off. The stand kind
of goes back to the normal. Turn

616
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:27.920
on again, it go back into
the same shape. So it just over

617
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.519
and over again through our history,
we just keep all the sand is different,

618
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.360
the people are different, like the
cultures are different, but we just

619
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.679
keep resonating and vibrating into into a
similar shape. So the stories might be

620
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.199
the sand. You want to hear
something trippy though, now that you're talking

621
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.039
about this tech stuff, I think
this is all like a big tech that

622
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.519
we don't understand. That's why it's
been told in like stories on nursery rhymes

623
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:52.880
to us, Yeah, because it's
like a technology we don't understand. Yeah,

624
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.599
Like if you look at the Aokian
language and even the watch towers of

625
00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:00.800
each element and all, you're supposed
to look at them like three dimentionally where

626
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:04.360
you can see the different dimensions inside
of it. And then if you trace

627
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.639
enough sigils, like if you start
to look at angelic sigils and everything,

628
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:12.639
and these some bitches work, Okay, they work. You start to look

629
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.159
at these things, it looks like
if you back up and look at it,

630
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.559
it looks like a crazy motherboard exactly. It looks like all kinds of

631
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.639
different little buses and stuff. Right, it looks weird exactly exactly. It's

632
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:29.960
I mean, it seems even like
the phenomena even like like when we're talking

633
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:34.400
about like angels and stuff, it's
it seems just like super super advanced,

634
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:40.239
uh, like calligraphy, like like
holograms and stuff like shape shifting tangible plasma

635
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:49.079
hologram type stuff, and just like
it just seems like this constant thing where

636
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.440
we're just like, I don't know, we're building the new thing that will

637
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:54.800
eventually enslave us, and then we'll
build a new thing again. It's just

638
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:59.800
this constant fractal of this continuing thing. I don't know, with the like

639
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:01.800
yeah, I don't know if there
is an end result or if we're just

640
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:07.280
like, yeah, I don't know. It just seems very very technological,

641
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:15.000
like even the the angels angles thing, like the angles being like angles off

642
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.239
of something. It's all math kind
of at the end of it, all

643
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:22.400
kind of breaks down to math and
some kind of some kind of code.

644
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:25.159
And is that just because that's kind
of what the basis of our reality that

645
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:30.039
just are are Like, it's not
that it's what it's made out of.

646
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:34.639
It's not made out of code,
it's not made out of numbers or platonic

647
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.079
soulis. It's just that's the limit
to what we can see. That's that's

648
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:42.400
the question. I think we figured
it out, man, Like we figured

649
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.119
out ones and zeros, right,
we figured that out, and look what

650
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.199
we made with ones and zeros.
It's insane happened with ones and zeros.

651
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:55.639
I think this technology uses like that
kind of thing, but it's like biological

652
00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:02.519
and it's more complex quantum. I
guess you could say we went pretty deep

653
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:13.400
pretty quick. Yeah hell yeah,
so yeah, like a break, he

654
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.360
said. I bet Nicola Tesla didn't
jarge. He probably didn't. That might

655
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.000
be why he was a genius,
you know, but he was. I'm

656
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:21.679
on the I'm on the I don't
know how much of me is just being

657
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.559
kind of a like piece of ship, like Devil's advocate all the time,

658
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.440
being like are we sure about the
force? Are we? But one of

659
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.320
my first ones is like are we
sure about Tesla? Honestly, like,

660
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.880
as a as a conspiracy theorist,
like this guy ye. I mean he,

661
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:39.039
yes, he died broke, but
so did crazy broke. I'm like,

662
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:42.800
you know me, people die broke. That's that doesn't say exactly.

663
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.039
Yeah, love Craft he was a
creep exactly, But that's that's the I

664
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.599
was always the argument. But it's
also he was like very famous at the

665
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:52.800
time. He was hanging out with
celebrities. He was running electricity through them

666
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:57.920
all the time. If you're asiation
mythology, electricity is like of the devil,

667
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.519
It's like of Araman. It's like
it's it's like these demons and stuff

668
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:04.920
are basically AI. They were explaining
it from the first mythology. So it's

669
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.679
like there of electricity. It's like
technology isn't the problem, but it's like

670
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:15.760
electrical technology is the problem. And
that Yeah, I mean like most of

671
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.079
you that he was saying that broke
and you don't know it. You know,

672
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.480
he was on drugs and he died
broke. I'm like, so does

673
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.880
seventy percent of America exactly what is
that? Just anything? Right? I

674
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.239
mean they took it. Edison took
his stuff like he's some kind of like

675
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:34.679
he's some kind of alternative like hero
or whatever. But it's just like but

676
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.280
that's kind of the we don't know, like the end result of the things

677
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:43.559
that we were. He says he's
getting ideas from from from the dead,

678
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:45.400
like trying to create spear phone and
stuff. He said he was getting ideas

679
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:49.440
from Venus and aliens and stuff.
He was getting ideas from the electricity.

680
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:54.400
He was like that man, he
said, but did he Tesla said that?

681
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:57.519
But I mean I didn't. I
didn't talk to him. But those

682
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.239
are that's the legends. I don't
know. But he was this guy that

683
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:04.360
I'm reading his book, he's saying
the same thing, and like I'm getting

684
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.199
my body sensors are going off,
like he's he's putting out some pretty genius

685
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.840
level, well not genius level,
not Tesla level stuff, but pretty good

686
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:15.800
information. But then he's like,
I'm getting information from beings from Orion,

687
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.519
but I'm not channeling them. But
I can't tell you how I'm getting the

688
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:22.760
information. Yeah, like exactly,
it's I mean, they're getting you can't

689
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:27.519
why not? Why can't you tell
me? You know? That's so I

690
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:30.840
don't think Tesla was a Charlatan.
That's the difference. It's it's like it's

691
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.920
I don't think he's like I don't
think he's flying or as a fraud or

692
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:40.719
anything like that. But I think
what are I mean like the if we're

693
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:45.119
building some kind of iconic force and
some kind of like AI that's going to

694
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:50.119
eventually enslave us. Maybe it can't
do that on fossil fuels. Maybe it

695
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.079
can't do that on an electric grid. It maybe it require Tesla level of

696
00:47:54.119 --> 00:48:00.440
technology in order to eventually build the
thing that will imprison us forever, build

697
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.400
this matrix that we're all afraid of. It might require like he he,

698
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:07.000
because just because you get a download
from something, it doesn't mean that download

699
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:12.400
is good. That's if you are
doesn't mean that's a whole other thing.

700
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.360
Yeah, But like if you're some
kind of if you're like a lovecraftan old

701
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:20.360
one trapped outside of reality and the
idea is to get back in. So

702
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.360
or if you're an archonic force trying
to have a grip on reality, which

703
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:28.920
is you need you need humans to
build a vessel for you to inhabit.

704
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:30.840
You need us to build robots,
you need us to build AI, you

705
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.800
need us to build something to communicate
with it. Like, then you will

706
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:38.960
set that's how you will do it. You'll send ideas to visionaries. You'll

707
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:44.000
send ideas to people in psychedelic states. You will give these people downloads,

708
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:49.159
channeling sessions. Like all of these
huge leaps in technology come from the same

709
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:52.440
type of thing. Steve Jobs had
his his famous assets. They're all so

710
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:58.360
it's like it's something is giving us
the idea for technology, and this guy

711
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.480
was straight up shooting electricity through his
He was like, yeah, give me

712
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:02.719
the idea. I need it,
I need it. And this is like,

713
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:06.920
yes, just because they stole his
ship, just because he died penniless

714
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:08.760
does not mean he was like he
might have been a good guy first time.

715
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:13.360
But it's just like, are we
sure about Tesla Tech just because like

716
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:19.199
just because like I don't know,
Like just like they use the they use

717
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.679
the mainstream media is trying to stifle
this person as a way to like make

718
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:28.199
it seem like that's good. I
mean, but that's like like that doesn't

719
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.599
that doesn't that's a that's an easy
tactic to make I mean. So it's

720
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:36.440
just like maybe the Arkans want Tesla
Tech, maybe they want us. They

721
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.360
want the richest guy in the world
who's building AI to name his company Tesla.

722
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:45.239
I mean, like I don't know. I don't know, Like,

723
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.159
no, you got to take a
break. But I don't know. I

724
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:52.440
don't think people are sure. I
think he's just like a lot of people

725
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:57.000
like like people don't people like Tesla. People think, oh, like people

726
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.400
like Tesla. Yeah, but I'm
saying I don't people are gonna, like,

727
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:06.239
uh, be able to prove everything. But he's one of the people

728
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:09.000
that, like even Jason Quitt had
like a Tesla magazine, you know,

729
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:13.800
he was Teslas one of his biggest
fans, or he's one of everyone.

730
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:22.079
He's this he's this alternative like hero. But so what you sure if in

731
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.320
order to collapse the pillows of reality, it might require the level of technology

732
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:29.519
that Custla was talking about. I
mean, in order to make it palatable,

733
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.159
we might need to like hide it
for a while. They're trying to

734
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:35.079
hide it for us, give it
to us, and then when we give

735
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:37.280
it to us, it's our own
Denis. I mean, we'll be right

736
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:43.440
back on n you guys call.
I'm gonna open up the phone line five

737
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.360
on one seven seven seven five six
three one. We got to take the

738
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:50.639
radio station break. We'll be right
back real short radio live here on the

739
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:52.960
Fringe FM broadcasting to you live from
the Shack. We got Nice Stark on

740
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:58.119
tonight. It's usually we do the
music shows Monday night. We still might

741
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.960
get into a little music. Speaking
of music, guys need to follow Barney

742
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:06.119
aka hound Dog on TikTok. He's
I've been pushing him. I'm like,

743
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.239
come on, dude, put up
those solos. Man, he's been kicking

744
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:15.000
it on guitars, So give him
a follow. And uh yeah, just

745
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:16.679
to let you know, night stalk
or that camera, Mike, if you

746
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:20.440
rub it it sounds like a paper. I thought you were rolling doobies up

747
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.840
at first, you know, I
think mansie so I got a bunch of

748
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:27.760
jackets. He's rolling up doobies,
dude. Yeah, or maybe it might

749
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.719
be some beard action too. Sorry
with that, everybody, you're rubbing it

750
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.079
on your beard. So the whole
time you've been hearing your beard is it

751
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.960
bad? It's it's cool now,
it's fun. Sorry, sorry, it's

752
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.320
just uh, you know, people
like nobody knows that. They don't tell

753
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:43.440
you that stuff when you get phones
either, they're like, oh, by

754
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.760
the way, if you touch this
thing with anything, it's going to sound

755
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:50.599
like a car wreck. But if
you don't it sounds amazing, right,

756
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.119
The MIC's on the phone sound really
good though, honestly, they sound a

757
00:51:54.159 --> 00:52:01.440
lot better than some mics do.
But but I appreciate your input. By

758
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.880
the way, the calling numbers five
on one, triple seven, fifty six,

759
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.920
thirty one. If you want to
chime in, phone lines are open.

760
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:09.199
But well, but right now,
can you here, Like, there's

761
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:10.760
really not much I can do.
I mean, I'm kind of just like,

762
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:14.760
no, I don't hear anything open
opening my mouth. Basically, I

763
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.360
don't hear anything as hard as just
when you move. I mean, as

764
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:22.559
those mics are so sensitive, you
can hardly you can hardly do anything about

765
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:27.320
it anyways. So but you know, I appreciate your feedback on that,

766
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.400
man, because to me, it
would be like, look, if it

767
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:32.480
was Genevieve or Barney or any any
of the listeners, They're like, dude,

768
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:37.119
I'm I got cancer or whatever,
Like I'm going to check out in

769
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.159
a little while, and I'm reading
these books and they're telling me like all

770
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:45.599
this scary shit. You know,
Yeah, it's like, I guess worst

771
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:51.000
case scenario. You're just I mean, if you believe that reincarnation is the

772
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.119
next thing. Anyways, then worst
case scenario, you're just you're just gonna

773
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:58.159
get recycled anyways. It's not like
I don't think the idea is you get

774
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.840
tricked by the light, sucking to
the light, and then you're in like

775
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:05.559
a jar forever. It's just like
you're just back in there in the eternal

776
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:08.719
process, and the idea is to
get out of that game. But we

777
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:12.920
just don't know how good the good
is. I guess you mean I thought

778
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:15.719
the idea was to make this place
heaven on Earth. That's what I thought.

779
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:21.239
Yeah, you know, but it's
impossible. It's not going to happen.

780
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:24.920
You know, it totally could happen. It's not that it's not impossible.

781
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:30.719
It's just highly unlikely due to our
behavior. But it if you just

782
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.360
took the laws of cause and effect
and we stopped giving into fear so much,

783
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:37.280
it could it could totally happen.
If we just didn't have a lack

784
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.519
of mindset, or we weren't afraid
of shit, it could happen. Yeah,

785
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:45.760
I'm not saying I was going to, but it could absolutely could happen.

786
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:49.559
You know, if if I guess, if we're all just kind of

787
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:54.239
making the six feet in every direction
around us, kind of heaven on earth

788
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:59.119
in the immediate like environment around us. And if everyone is doing that,

789
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:00.719
then it does become heaven on earth. You know. If ever, if

790
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:05.400
everyone is making their little bubble heaven
and when ore, that's kind of the

791
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.920
idea of the collective consciousness. If
all of our little bubbles of consciousness are

792
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:12.079
heavenly, when they come together,
we create heaven. And kind of the

793
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:16.079
idea is like, well, yeah, but that guy over there, he's

794
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:20.280
not going to do that. He's
he's making terrible stuff. So my bubble

795
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.000
touches up with that bubble, it's
going to be a nightmare of reality.

796
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:27.360
And it's kind of like the economy, well yeah, well that person's spending

797
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.000
on booze and cigarettes and stuff,
so it's just like real crap in a

798
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:36.440
barrel type stuff. And it's just
like, I don't know, there's no

799
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.280
advice here, but it's just like
in dey could work, I guess,

800
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:42.679
I don't know. Yeah, I
mean, like I'm buying booze and cigarettes.

801
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.440
Sometimes I just think that we I
think we create. I'm about to

802
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:50.639
smoke a cigarette right now because I'm
stressed. It relieves stress and anxiety,

803
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:52.519
you know, the doctors used to
prescribe it, by the way, But

804
00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:58.239
I uh, I'm the old school
man, like I don't care, you

805
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:05.440
know, I don't care. But
the the the thing is is the idea

806
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:09.719
of of the mysteries or spirituality or
this whole Kundalini mystery and the force and

807
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:14.679
all the stuff we talked about anyways, is to increase your consciousness to the

808
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:20.239
point of awareness of the higher self
so that when you do reincarnate you it's

809
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.719
you never forget who you are,
you know, but now you know people,

810
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:28.679
I mean, anybody could say anything
is a trap. If you think

811
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:30.480
about it, like any good information, you could say, well, that's

812
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:37.760
that's just a trap. It's a
trap with the with the remembering on your

813
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:42.840
next go around kind of. I
mean, do you when people talk about

814
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:45.840
the idea this is a school,
we're here to like learn stuff or whatever,

815
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:51.039
and that the purpose of like having
our memory wiped every time is so

816
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.679
that we can learn stuff or whatever. So that's the that's the goal.

817
00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:59.480
Then then like why are we trying
to hack the game? That's what they

818
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:02.320
tell you because they want you to
stay here because it's a trap. Yeah,

819
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:06.159
but that's that's that's the thing,
which seems like more it's either a

820
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:08.320
trap or it's a school, like
we chose to come and carr it into

821
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:13.480
hear and all of our bad choices
are because our higher self decided that beforehand,

822
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:17.159
and blame him when you get back
there or whatever, or or at

823
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:22.360
the trap. I mean, like
it can't be the New Age community is

824
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:27.119
a trap. Yeah, Like there's
so much crap in it, man,

825
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:30.760
you know, it's like, honestly, it's worse than religion. Sometimes to

826
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:34.280
me, it's worse in it's worse
than orthodoxy. You hear people, well,

827
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:37.679
just to wait for the universe and
the unit. You are the universe,

828
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.400
you're the storm, you're the universe. You're waiting around on yourself.

829
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:45.360
Yeah, you know, it's like
wait for divine timing and the universe provides

830
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:50.079
and I'm just gonna like do a
ritual or watch a vision board and everything's

831
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:55.679
gonna manifest. It's like you realize
that's how creation probably came into being to

832
00:56:55.719 --> 00:57:00.840
begin with, but there was action
taken. You know, you're not you're

833
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:05.039
the universe, So do it.
Don't wait around for it, you know

834
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:07.320
exactly. Yeah, I get a
question, it's gonna seem off topic,

835
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:13.599
but I get applies. So when
when when I'm talking about like we are

836
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:16.679
the manifesting engine of reality, like
I always give the Dark Side of the

837
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:22.800
Moon album cover as like, so
the monad or the Source or big seat

838
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:27.519
consciousness or like God or the universe
or whatever is the white light. We

839
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.639
are the prism. This is just
is just one on one stuff. We're

840
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:34.360
the triangle prism and then the reality
that we experience. So once the white

841
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:38.599
light is shot through our subjective prism
triangle, then the rainbow is the reality

842
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:46.599
that we all experience or whatever.
So like with my understanding of sigil,

843
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:52.039
magic kind of is, or magic
honestly in general is to just impact change

844
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:58.760
the prism slightly so that when that
white light is shot through, then the

845
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:00.840
reality that is shot it's the rainbow. This comes out on the other end,

846
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:04.639
is the way that you want it. So little tweaks here and there,

847
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:07.719
little hacks kind of is kind of
we're going to have to start doing.

848
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:09.360
You remember all that the crap I
used to talk on here with you

849
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:13.400
say we're going to do some like
magic experiments on here. So I can

850
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:15.719
tell you everybody this and you're like, let's do it. Let's do it,

851
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:19.559
and I never got around to doing
it right like so, so,

852
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:25.159
but that's with with sigil magic when
like, because I'm into the idea that

853
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:32.800
they're trying to not like fake an
alien invasion or not like fake some kind

854
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:37.760
of apocalypse or whatever or like that
they're a lot of their power and I'm

855
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:40.800
using like the nebulous Day or whatever, but a lot of like the power

856
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:46.920
of the controllers is through us.
So I think they're trying to fake it

857
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:52.599
until they manifest it. They're trying
to surround us with imagery of aliens and

858
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:57.360
alien heads and titans and watchers and
all kinds of demons and crazy stuff so

859
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.519
that like we don't see because makes
it happen. Mean, like is that

860
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:06.159
is that sigil magic? So let
me explain. I'm having a hard time

861
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:08.360
to understanding what you're saying. Thanks
Michael for the thirty dollars, Thank you,

862
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:15.280
brother, thank you, thank you
think so so my I'm understanding of

863
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:20.800
sigil magic is so like take a
take a phrase or take like some kind

864
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:24.119
of outcome that you want, and
like so say say it's a phrase and

865
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:28.480
then remove all those vowels from it. Yeah, and you're trying to create

866
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:32.079
magic and maybe like put that,
put that in your your car dashboard or

867
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:36.639
something in the periphery so that you
like forget about it and your conscious mind

868
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:40.519
forgets about it, but your subconscious
mind understands what it is in order for

869
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:46.039
it to manifest. So take that
with pop culture and the zeitgeist as a

870
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:51.960
whole, It's like they're surrounding us
with these images, like these kind of

871
00:59:52.480 --> 01:00:00.519
weird subtle like what you're saying,
like there's a constant image push be subconscious.

872
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.159
Huh I see what you're saying though, Like there through through all this

873
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:07.440
stuff we're being manipulated in our to
our subconscious through like it's a constant schigil,

874
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:12.199
that's what you're saying. And even
in this being memed so like even

875
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:15.840
like a silly alien thing, so
like someone celebrities do kind of crazy stuff

876
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:19.840
that like it, it's instantly memed
online, we make a joke out of

877
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:23.079
it, and then we push it
to our subconscious. So is that how

878
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:25.679
sigil magic works, like in order
to manifest. So so you have a

879
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:30.239
you have to speak to the unconscious, you have to write like you're already

880
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:35.760
explaining your question right, You're answering
your question. So, so the thing

881
01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:39.079
that stops things from manifesting and Liam
Thomas Christopher just did a video about this,

882
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:43.400
but it's like one of the basic
laws of magic is the lust for

883
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:49.480
results. Okay, So the only
way to get something to manifest is to

884
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:54.480
put it into your unconscious and you're
not You have no attachment to the outcome.

885
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:59.639
You feel the emotional desire for it, but you have no attachment to

886
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:04.679
the out come, right, And
then that's usually what that's how it happens.

887
01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:08.159
There's other ways to to boost it
into make it manifesting more like if

888
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:14.800
you want to get into ritual or
sexual energies or just more focused you know

889
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:17.599
stuff. But I see what you're
saying, Like, if there was this

890
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:23.440
entity that was trying to manifest a
certain reality into our reality, he's putting

891
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:27.639
all kinds of things so that our
unconscious we don't really care about it,

892
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:30.840
but our unconscious is observing it and
taking it in all the time. Right,

893
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:35.679
Therefore it's becoming real. Because dude, you just tripped me out,

894
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.480
Because what if Wes is right,
Like, because we are these like triple

895
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:44.480
creative beings and this thing knows well, I can't go to oryan or whatever.

896
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.880
I'm not a creative being like a
human, but I can screw with

897
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:53.000
it unconsciously all the time and get
it to create what I want, which

898
01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:58.519
is basically what a narcissist does.
Right. It goes back to like the

899
01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:01.519
gods trying to fight for our attention
or whatever. So if you're some type

900
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:07.679
of like force, if you're some
type of like Zeus, like archetypical Zeus

901
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:12.599
Force or whatever, or some type
of like father force, you were going

902
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:16.599
to maybefore time have dominance, and
then that culture kind of forgets about you,

903
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:20.679
and then the goal will be to
like trying to coax another culture.

904
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.480
You might be under a different name
or whatever, but you need to in

905
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:28.800
order to gain power and gain influence
and gain just whatever, just like lushes

906
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.480
or whatever whatever it is, you
need people to notice you and yeah,

907
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:37.119
like venerate you in a certain way, and then that will kind of charge

908
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:45.000
you up. So if we're like
a yeah, I don't know, yah,

909
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:49.840
yeah, God's God forgives sign say
on every other billboard next to the

910
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:52.440
porno billboards, especially if you're in
like Pennsylvania or something, you know.

911
01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:57.320
I mean, So if you're if
you're like what Coley was talking to,

912
01:02:57.519 --> 01:03:00.079
like like like a wass or lamb
or something like that. If he's some

913
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:07.400
type of like weird non physical sentience
and you're trying to get form, you're

914
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:10.239
gonna maybe like inject it to like, you know, find somebody's trying to

915
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:14.679
communicate with something. Oh this cray
let me let me beam a message into

916
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:17.920
him. He draws this crazy picture
of a big headed, like gray alien

917
01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:22.239
type thing. Then fast forward like
seventy years. Then we get like Whitney

918
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:24.960
Streeber puts it on his book because
I rid of the chills. Then it

919
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:30.079
goes into movies. Fast forward to
like last week, Victor Weberyama, who's

920
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:32.920
like going to be the next Lebron
James for the NBA, is going to

921
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:37.920
be like the next Michael Jordan for
the NBA, unveiled his new logo and

922
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:40.760
it's just like alien sigil. It's
this basketball with the green alien head in

923
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:45.199
it, and it's like, what
would it do to culture if the Jordan

924
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:49.599
logo was an alien? That thing
is plastered absolutely everywhere? Is that sigil

925
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:53.760
magic? Would that help this non
physical entity manifest the form that it wants?

926
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:59.840
You know what I mean? Like
Will Smith yesterday just performed at Coachella

927
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.119
in front of a big gray alien, Lill Smith, a big titan head

928
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:06.320
men in black and everything. It's
like so all and Drake had a big

929
01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:11.400
green alien thing and a big flying
saucer and giant titan stuff, and just

930
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:14.519
all these celebrities are doing it.
We just kind of brush it off.

931
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:16.760
Oh whatever, it's just a spectacle. But it's just like, are all

932
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:20.920
these symbols, all these kind of
me magic type things so that I wass

933
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:26.280
or whatever this thing is can manifest
its form and then and then exists here.

934
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:28.920
You know, like if you read
the Book of the Law, that'll

935
01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:31.280
trip you out. Have you read
it? No? No, I haven't.

936
01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:35.639
We got to read that crap,
dude, Like it's a short book.

937
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:42.559
But it's basically this being the curly
Channel is like the ultimate in my

938
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:45.480
opinion, It's like love is the
law and everything, but it's also the

939
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:51.360
ultimate kind of lucifairy and satanic mindset. It's like he called it. If

940
01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:57.079
everybody stan he called it, everybody's
too stupid or if you're weak, right

941
01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:00.239
then the hell with you. The
rest of us, like the magicians,

942
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:04.800
the people that know how to like
make their will happen. Are just going

943
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:09.119
to take over the Earth as long
as you let us run things, and

944
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:12.280
whoever else doesn't get it, the
hell with them, including Jesus. He

945
01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:15.880
talks about pecking Jesus. It's eyeballs
out and stuff. You know. I

946
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:17.599
mean, it sounds a lot like
the Force if you ask me, like

947
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:23.039
about forget about the regular people in
the galaxy. We're working through just the

948
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:26.880
ones with the most mediclorians, the
ones that can like manipulate. They call

949
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:29.360
it. They call it the Book
of the Wheels. That's that's what the

950
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:30.840
that's what Star Wars was going to
be called originally Book of the Wheels.

951
01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:34.920
And it's just like, let's manipulate
the thing, or let's like interact with

952
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:40.119
the thing that can best manipulate reality. Let's put him in government. They

953
01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:44.800
just they run society. These military
magicians, these military wizards screw everybody else.

954
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:49.320
And it's just like everybody who's everybody
who's quote unquote the chosen one gets

955
01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:53.320
there, I'm chopped off and has
a robot part or like dies miserably and

956
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:58.519
stuff and then gets sucked. The
only ones who are ghosts who get trapped

957
01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:00.760
in this like prison place a thing. Are the ones who were The Force

958
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:03.960
wheelers are the Jedi, They are
the ones who everyone else escapes. But

959
01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.519
the force ghosts are the ones who
are using the force. I mean,

960
01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:10.480
like the traps they're stuck in here, you know, it's like the force,

961
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:14.000
the forces of them urge. I
think that's my take, I think.

962
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:16.519
But Curley was kind of a genius. So he took his wife right

963
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:21.480
to the Pyramids and channeled this being
through the female to the feminine energy.

964
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:27.000
So he used the masculine wheel to
bring it down, channeled the being into

965
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:30.000
the feminine energy, and she spoke
these words that it was coming and it's

966
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:34.159
hairy and creepy. Secondly, based
on what you're saying, like, I

967
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:39.119
don't this, I mean, I'm
not into like making this reel or anything,

968
01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:43.440
Okay, but if you put it
all together, it does like every

969
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:47.840
since that happened, technology has moved
faster than compound interest. Oh man,

970
01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:53.639
yeah, seriously it has. And
it was like this is that time period

971
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:57.440
in general seemed like some kind of
download like around that time that was that

972
01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:00.760
was Lovecraft, that was like Charles
Ford, that was like Tolkien. It

973
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:03.840
was like this brain download type of
thing where we got this I don't know

974
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:09.480
and like and then we seem to
have another one around like rosswell time and

975
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:13.519
like all these stuff that cherysonal.
Talks about with Lucifer's technology kind of type

976
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.239
of thing, where like we got
the instructions to build the technology that's damning

977
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:19.119
us. Basically we got the down
We got it in the form of a

978
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:23.599
downcraft, or we got it in
the form of whatever they gave us the

979
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:27.400
instructions for the transistor, were about
to build the Internet, and we built

980
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:30.760
this like weird digital cage that we're
all just like fighting in and just it's

981
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:34.199
just we like it's it's we built
the thing that's literally draining our loose You

982
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:38.239
will you go on Facebook, you
will see the worst stuff that makes you

983
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:42.519
mad. You will feel worse afterwards. That's like a very simple, simple,

984
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:46.920
tangible, loose training thing that we
have already and this ramp that up

985
01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:51.440
a thousand years. That's that's what
we're talking about. That's the Orion thing

986
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:55.079
that we're talking about. It's the
same thing, same same mechanism. There's

987
01:07:55.079 --> 01:08:00.519
some kind of weird thing just to
drain your emotions. And then like right

988
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:02.239
now, the corporations are the ones
sucking it out and feeding it off,

989
01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:08.519
feeding our data and our attention,
attention, attention. But then in the

990
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:11.840
future Chrisby archons or whatever, just
I don't know, it's fractal like we're

991
01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:14.559
doing, we're building it, it's
happening right now, using it on the

992
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:17.520
internet, but then fractively zoom out
a little bit. That could just be

993
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:21.319
what reality is. I don't know. Yeah, I also know that you,

994
01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:29.840
like, I think we have to
be careful about this is all just

995
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:30.560
like thought stuff. I mean,
I'm not saying this, yeah, but

996
01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:34.119
now I'm just saying, like,
people really believe what you're talking about,

997
01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:42.199
like to their very core, right, so we have to be careful of

998
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:46.399
like what if people are unbeknowingly creating
this too, you know, like this

999
01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:49.560
could just be a big programming motherboard, like if someone was saying in the

1000
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:51.920
chat New York City, if you
back up, looks like a big motherboard

1001
01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:55.680
or whatever. And that's what we
are. We're just creative beings. We

1002
01:08:55.720 --> 01:09:00.680
are the universe down down into smaller
beings, and so all the stuff that

1003
01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:03.239
we get in our heads and we
get emotional about and then we all start

1004
01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:06.319
agreeing on it, we create it. So think about just that for a

1005
01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:11.479
minute. That would create all kinds
of hell and havoc just that alone,

1006
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:17.000
you know, are cons included.
So I mean so yes, like what

1007
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:23.159
I'm saying is is scary, but
like and I think maybe in order to

1008
01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:27.079
it's like another I mean it is
it is a nosis in of itself.

1009
01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:30.800
In order to maybe to receive that
nosis, you have to like be slapped

1010
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:32.439
into that new reality. Again.
You got to be like scared. You

1011
01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:36.159
got to take that like the repilot, get kind of shocked, shocked to

1012
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:41.439
your system first kind of. And
if you continue to be shocked forever,

1013
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:45.760
then that's not productive at all.
But if you like like center yourself,

1014
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:49.279
gather yourself and be like, okay, let me use this information to move

1015
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:53.800
forward. Okay, so I'm not
a victim to my situation. I'm not

1016
01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:58.159
just like experiencing this like at random. It's I'm manifesting it. And then

1017
01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:01.119
it's like, okay, they are
using they're like hitting us with so much

1018
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:05.560
trauma, putting us just through the
absolute ringer in order to manifest this healthscape

1019
01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:09.560
that they want or whatever, and
it's just like Okay, that's scary.

1020
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:13.680
But then also if I'm manifesting it, then I can take my power back.

1021
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:16.119
If I'm working at a supermarket and
I'm broke and I have a whole

1022
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:23.159
checklist of things reasons for me to
or limitations or whatever, let's say the

1023
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:25.520
one thing I have is like,
okay, I can control that. I

1024
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:30.000
can for the best of my ability, trying to control my immediate reality.

1025
01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:32.600
So it's like, yes, if
you like take if you just stay with

1026
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:39.079
that first initial slap into reality and
just only focus on that, then yeah,

1027
01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:41.319
you're not You're not helping stuff at
all. But if you take that

1028
01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:44.359
slap and then like, then like
what I mean, does that make sense?

1029
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:47.880
Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. But I got the Book of

1030
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:50.640
the Law and told up here I
was trying to find the crazy stuff in

1031
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:54.840
here, but you know, I
don't have time to go. One day,

1032
01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:57.279
I'll do a show on it and
you know where I can read it.

1033
01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:00.319
But it's some pretty freaky stuff,
man. So what's it saying about

1034
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:04.479
the Like, the the Orion stuff's
weird because like everything is aligned like the

1035
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:06.880
pent Ian I mean, obviously the
Pyramids, all this kind of stuff is

1036
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:11.640
aligned to Orion. But also,
like I member, my friend Claude,

1037
01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:15.479
shout out Claude. One of like
me and Lindsay's friends said he, I

1038
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:17.920
don't know if you got this from
he wanted to figured out himself. But

1039
01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:25.720
the temples on Epstein's Island are also
aligned to to Orion's really like the Orion's

1040
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:28.800
belt and everything. Yeah, so
it's like it's not just the ancients who

1041
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:32.079
were like, it's like the modern
ny creepiest of the creeps and everything.

1042
01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:34.680
It's just like, I wonder,
why what are they trying to do?

1043
01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:38.720
You mean, like like what's what's
what? What's that? How does that

1044
01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:42.079
tie into the book at all?
Does it? Can it? Man?

1045
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:45.760
I I don't think it doesn't tie
into the Book of the Law, but

1046
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:48.800
it could tie into you know,
I mean the Orion west Peny's papers probably,

1047
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:54.199
But see O'Rion is supposedly and according
to his papers, the west Penury

1048
01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:58.800
Papers, Orion is the real heaven. So the real god of this universe,

1049
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:02.960
according to Wes Penry, is a
queen feminine energy like a like a

1050
01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:06.960
Sophia type of thing, or Columbia, but bigger, you know, like

1051
01:12:08.039 --> 01:12:13.000
Sophia is just a construct more of
a construct a matter of fact, anything

1052
01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:16.960
religious anything in the mysteries, anything
whatsoever that we've been taught is basically a

1053
01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:23.239
construct. We're all under this queen
in this Ryan universe, you know in

1054
01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:27.560
UH in DC Comics, that's Perpetua. That's I think it's the name of

1055
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:30.439
it from UH. It's from Scott
Snyder. That's the guy who lost them.

1056
01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:32.640
I was on. You asked me, like, who who would want

1057
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:35.279
to talk to if I got to
interview anybody? This guy like gets his

1058
01:12:35.319 --> 01:12:39.279
information from like the CIA and stuff, And he wrote Justice League a few

1059
01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:44.720
years ago, and his like Big
Bad was like this controlling force of the

1060
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:48.600
entire DC multiverse multiverse. It was
this Perpetua. Wouldn't it be wouldn't it

1061
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:53.119
be crazy? If Wes Penry was
like, actually this, That's exactly how

1062
01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:57.720
I channeled O Ryan's you know,
through comic books, because I know that

1063
01:12:57.880 --> 01:13:02.159
comic books are actually telling the truth. Like I don't believe people Like if

1064
01:13:02.199 --> 01:13:03.800
I came to you and you said, hey, man, I got this

1065
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:06.880
really cool thing I want to tell
you about, but I have a source

1066
01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:10.520
and I can't tell you who it
is or what it is, I'd be

1067
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:14.000
like, okay, cool, But
if you tell me a crazy story then

1068
01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:17.800
I'm be like, who's telling you
this? You know? Right? Like

1069
01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:21.800
you if you're going to say something
crazy, you can't just say I have

1070
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:28.119
an insider or I got the information
from like, because I don't believe you,

1071
01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:31.159
like you got the information out of
your head and that's your excuse to

1072
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:35.039
make it sound like it's true instead
of you just saying I believe it's true.

1073
01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:41.039
Because if it were me, like
and someone told me something like some

1074
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:43.239
god or alien came down and said, look, I'm going to tell you

1075
01:13:43.279 --> 01:13:46.000
this truth, but you can't tell
nobody, I'd be like, that's not

1076
01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:50.800
going to happen. I'm gonna tell
everybody. That's just when it gets into

1077
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:55.239
the dog my aspect of it,
like I don't. I don't like the

1078
01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:59.399
idea of like nothing I'm saying is
any type of truth at all. It's

1079
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:02.000
all just like what if it's just
like like, well, well this thought,

1080
01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:05.279
it's just like thought experiments. It's
just like what I think is philosophy.

1081
01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:08.600
I mean, well this is a
I mean, are we sure the

1082
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:11.439
force is good? Like what?
I'm not sure? I don't. I

1083
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:14.640
don't like I like the I like
the Jedi. I mean I want to

1084
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:15.680
be like I would like to be
a Jedi. But it's like I think,

1085
01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:17.840
I think it's cool to think about
to question it. I mean,

1086
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:23.359
what are the results like the force? The force? Man? You know,

1087
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:26.840
it's just like your mind if you
plant in my opinion, like I

1088
01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:30.079
think, who said this? Forget
who said it, some one of those

1089
01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:32.560
guru guys said it. But you
can plant crap seeds in your mind and

1090
01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:36.640
you're gonna get crap fruit just like
you can. All the mind is like

1091
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:40.920
people can plant seeds in it and
then it grows out the fruit of what's

1092
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:44.920
been planted there, and you can
let people into your garden, or you

1093
01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:46.800
can think for yourself. You know, we don't live in a day and

1094
01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:50.560
age where a lot of people are
thinking for themselves, at least from my

1095
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:56.119
observation, because people are just soaking
into information from everything, and we got

1096
01:14:56.119 --> 01:14:59.560
so many influencers and all this stuff, and all of these things are just

1097
01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:02.800
seeds, right, Yeah, So
it's volatile as hell. I mean,

1098
01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:08.039
Billy Carson going around, who's I
got no qualms with the guy. But

1099
01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:13.600
his whole marketing strategy is based off
of the Emerald Tablets of Thoth. But

1100
01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:15.640
he's saying, Isaac Newton and all
these people read them, and no,

1101
01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:19.720
the Emerald Tablet of Hermes was the
one that they read. The Emerald Tablets

1102
01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:25.119
of Thoft didn't come out to like
the twenties or thirties. But because the

1103
01:15:25.159 --> 01:15:30.079
presentation is so good, because it
moves people, because it's cool, people

1104
01:15:30.199 --> 01:15:34.560
believe everything he's saying. Oh yeah, he I mean, nobody kires what

1105
01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:38.840
I say. I don't even have
I don't I'm not even sure he's aware

1106
01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:40.720
of it, you know what I
mean, Like, I don't know if

1107
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:45.159
he even knows these are two different
tablets too. I mean that's like you're

1108
01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:49.239
referring to like any xts. Stuffy
talks about everything like yeah, yeah,

1109
01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:53.439
but I knew that when back with
any XT knew it, Like I thought

1110
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:56.119
it was common knowledge. A lot
of people knew that. Yeah. Like

1111
01:15:57.159 --> 01:15:59.600
Billy Carson, to me, he's
a little bit of like a grifter.

1112
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:01.239
He seems like he'd be chilled to
like hang out with and smoke with or

1113
01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:05.439
whatever, but like, but he's
got he's also like trying to sell like

1114
01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:10.439
his ideas and everything and stuff.
So he's just like he's spitting. He's

1115
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:13.520
like one step away from like Willcock
to me and everything. He's like,

1116
01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:18.199
he's just he's on the like I
know, he's got rich and created an

1117
01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:23.840
app or something like that, but
he just people when they get to that

1118
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:26.680
level, like when they get those
kind of movements following them, they just

1119
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:29.600
need to be careful, you know. Yeah, I mean, and it

1120
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:32.199
just it gets, it gets.
I don't necessarily blame them per se,

1121
01:16:32.279 --> 01:16:36.680
but it's just you have to be
aware of like the same way with the

1122
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:41.439
twenty four hour news content online it's
just like I mean, not online,

1123
01:16:41.479 --> 01:16:44.399
I mean on TV and stuff.
It's it's like they're having a station.

1124
01:16:44.840 --> 01:16:47.520
If there's a slow news day,
they're not going to like not be on

1125
01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:49.880
the TV. All right, well
there's no news today, so we're just

1126
01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:54.760
not gonna show up. They're gonna
still present every idea, every piece of

1127
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.439
news as if it was the most
important thing. Everything is breaking news,

1128
01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:00.760
Everything is breaking news. So for
him, it's like you got to keep

1129
01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:04.680
going. You have to keep So
it's a commodity of like new ideas,

1130
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:11.479
new cool ideas, new breaking information, new theories or like, and you

1131
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:14.119
can't just have to keep cracking them
out, keep cranking them out. So

1132
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:15.800
Lendam Molt and the Howe and stuff
that she just like she's foindly not a

1133
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:19.760
bad person, but she is going
to print every story that everyone gives her

1134
01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:23.279
because she that's how she pays her
bills, right, I mean, so

1135
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:26.479
it so it's like it's just you
have to understand that as a listener,

1136
01:17:26.640 --> 01:17:30.079
and if you don't, then like
like yeah, I mean and then yeah,

1137
01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:30.600
I don't know. I just don't. Yeah, bro, I don't

1138
01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:34.840
care about like just like with this
West Penry thing, you know, I

1139
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:39.960
don't care if people are successful or
not or what they I just want to

1140
01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:44.640
make sure that I mean, I
guess what you're saying is sometimes they run

1141
01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:47.399
out of cool stuff to say,
so they have to make up. Yeah,

1142
01:17:48.279 --> 01:17:51.000
if you're if you're to be the
truth, that's all. Yeah.

1143
01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:55.720
If you're like whole brand and your
whole thing is like, oh, I'm

1144
01:17:55.720 --> 01:17:58.359
going to break this information. I'm
going to break this information. Like my

1145
01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:01.119
thing is like I'm just trying to
think about cool stuff. I was trying

1146
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:03.920
to take something and just think about
it in a different way so that will

1147
01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:09.039
never run out. But if my
thing was here's this new thing no one's

1148
01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:12.680
ever heard of before, here we
go, that might make me famous for

1149
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:15.199
like six months. But how am
I gonna keep doing that? How am

1150
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:17.239
I gonna make a book every year? How am I gonna do a contact

1151
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:19.399
in the desert every year? How
am I gonna do all these things?

1152
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:21.800
I'm gonna keep an app going?
I m I going to keep a podcast

1153
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:27.279
going week after week? How am
I getting these new paradigm shifting ideas every

1154
01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:30.319
week? Every week? You can't
see? Stop making stuff up. We

1155
01:18:30.399 --> 01:18:33.760
stopped being much more like lenient with
what you like your filter for, Like

1156
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:36.359
this is probably not true, but
like whatever, I'm gonna run with them.

1157
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:42.680
Like so it doesn't make you a
bad person, not necessarily, but

1158
01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:45.600
like I also can It's probably the
truest thing I've ever heard of anybody say,

1159
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:53.439
my entire life, Sorry, how's
my cant? Like? Because you

1160
01:18:53.479 --> 01:19:00.000
know, I can't help but laugh
at that because it is it is true.

1161
01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:02.119
I got to hear me automatic a
girlfriend about this, you know,

1162
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:05.760
because when you have a girlfriend you
want to keep. It's the same thing,

1163
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:09.800
right, like if you don't succeed
or whatever, you know, they're

1164
01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:12.680
not going to be happy because they
want to experience this life, and all

1165
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:15.239
you are is a car to get
them to that kind of life, you

1166
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:17.239
know, And it's like, listen, I said the same thing to her.

1167
01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:20.920
I said, look, I can't
keep just doing shows and just pulling

1168
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:25.239
shit out of my ass to talk
about this little stuff, man, Like

1169
01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:27.720
I got to take a break or
I got to find something to you know,

1170
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:31.000
that I'm interested in, like read
books or do something. So no,

1171
01:19:31.079 --> 01:19:33.199
you got to It's kind of like, have you ever seen that movie

1172
01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:38.560
any given Sunday, the football movie
where he goes up to the woman he's

1173
01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:41.560
like, you know, and he's
beat up and bruised up, and he's

1174
01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:45.439
like, I think it's time that
I retire, and she just smacks him.

1175
01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:48.399
You are a quarterback, and it's
like you need to get rid of

1176
01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:50.720
these kind of women, period,
because they're going to run you in the

1177
01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:55.760
ground, right. But it just
I don't want to shoot on Billy Carson

1178
01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:57.880
and I don't know the guy.
I get what you're saying, like you

1179
01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:01.840
got to do something cool every day
that whole frigging I also don't know Jimmy

1180
01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:06.600
Church and then all kind of thing. Honestly, I see them from Afar

1181
01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:14.279
and everything, and they're like they're
just like sucking their own like so much.

1182
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:17.359
They're like making award shows just to
give themselves awards and just like making

1183
01:20:17.399 --> 01:20:23.039
red carpets and ship and doing this
whole frigging like thing just to like just

1184
01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:25.399
to like jerk themselves off and everything. And it's just like, okay,

1185
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:29.359
cool, buddy, I mean like
cool cool, But like I don't know,

1186
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:33.199
I don't I don't listen to that
that ship nastly whatever. I like

1187
01:20:33.239 --> 01:20:41.960
what we're doing better. I don't
know they're not listening, you know what

1188
01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:46.520
I mean though, they're just tossing
awards though to whoever wants to like show

1189
01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:49.039
up to percent an award. It's
like you mean, it's just like like

1190
01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:53.960
like lunches, yeah, give me
a yeah, I don't know, just

1191
01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:57.199
give me, give me a break. Like it's just like Jimmy Church can

1192
01:20:57.439 --> 01:21:02.520
like give a selfie of his mansion
or whatever. Shut up? Like do

1193
01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:06.399
you think do you think we should
all succeed? Like I'm happy for their

1194
01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:12.159
success and everything, but just like
if I'm in are just I want I

1195
01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:15.560
want everyone to do great. Everyone
should be getting rich and balling out and

1196
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:18.399
doing their own awards shows for themselves
and like giving themselves oscars and everything.

1197
01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:21.319
And that's awesome, but It's just
like, if I'm calibrating what's in good

1198
01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:25.920
information what's not good information, I'm
not necessarily going to them, Like I

1199
01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:29.239
would love to hang out with them
and just chill, but like, I'm

1200
01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:30.920
never going to source them as a
source of information because I think that's what

1201
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:34.520
they say is bullshit. Kind of
a little bit nothing against them, Okay,

1202
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:39.600
So my whole point with the Billy
Carson thing was is like, if

1203
01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:45.920
Billy Carson can get a fact wrong
or kind of mismarket the tablets thing,

1204
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:49.079
don't you think this Wes Penry guy
could have a like twenty or thirty forty

1205
01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:54.079
things wrong about what he's saying at
least? Oh yeah, for sure,

1206
01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:57.119
for sure? Yeah, you know
I think the Yeah, I think I

1207
01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:01.119
think yeah, yes, I think
a lot of the dogma could be wrong.

1208
01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:03.600
So like when you were first at
the beginning of the show, first

1209
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:06.920
talking about it, I was like, Okay, yeah, the trick by

1210
01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:12.560
the light, the are we sure
like this cosmic bug zapper idea. I

1211
01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:15.000
think there's a nugget of truth to
that potentially, But the lore he was

1212
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:18.800
building on on, like in the
mythology kind of the trappings around it,

1213
01:22:20.720 --> 01:22:26.039
I don't really resonate with as much. So if you experience like all these

1214
01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:30.319
different systems, like these different religions
or whatever as just like and you try

1215
01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:32.560
to find these little nuggets, then
that's good, that's useful information. But

1216
01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:35.279
if you get like bogged down with
the dogma or no one has to be

1217
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:39.079
Orion or no one has to be
this because the book says it is,

1218
01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:42.319
or this has to be this,
like because like like then you're get in

1219
01:22:42.359 --> 01:22:45.840
trouble and we were off there were
scienceist says this year like we're all fucked.

1220
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:47.560
You know, like if I came
to you and said, nice talk,

1221
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:51.000
right, I got I don't know
how many years I got left to

1222
01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:57.239
live. Yeah, I've read this
book. Scared the all out of me.

1223
01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:01.119
If you read it, and it's
got some pretty intense information. I

1224
01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:04.600
mean, it's just like any other
book that reveals all the scary stuff about

1225
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:09.920
religion and the mysteries, throws some
stuff in there and some narcissism, and

1226
01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:13.479
then says, you know, this
is all a trap. I mean,

1227
01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:16.079
what do you like? I guess
I'm asking you because I feel bad for

1228
01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:20.760
Gareth I have even though he's a
cool dude, he's really a cool cadd

1229
01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:25.239
He's just like us. Even the
guy that is he has to you know,

1230
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:28.199
he needs someone to take care of
him now because he can't do certain

1231
01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:34.319
things. That guy's cool. But
like to me, this Gareth is the

1232
01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:38.199
reason why I think it should matter. Like a lot of us do this

1233
01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:41.920
for intellectual stimulation. We hang out
right, we were trying to figure out

1234
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:44.560
the truth deep down. We want
to know it for a reason. But

1235
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:50.760
Gareth is the living example of why
the truth is important exactly so. For

1236
01:23:51.479 --> 01:23:56.239
if the question is like at the
moment, like what am I going to

1237
01:23:56.319 --> 01:23:58.960
do at the moment of death?
Am I going to go to the light

1238
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:02.359
or not? My answer is I
have right now, I have zero clue.

1239
01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:05.199
I don't I don't know. And
the way I talk about these things,

1240
01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:09.800
I'd always say I collect these theories. I collect these little like nuggets

1241
01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:12.439
like their comic books. I take
them in like, well, that's cool

1242
01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:15.680
to think about, and I can
put them away, Like, but I

1243
01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:18.880
did a survey on this. Actually
I'm gonna pull it up. But if

1244
01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:20.880
but it's like, what do you
just said? If I if I there

1245
01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:27.880
was if I knew my time was
limited, then there's this dunken trustle quote

1246
01:24:28.039 --> 01:24:31.399
that I like really like a lot
when he explains kind of death as like

1247
01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:39.319
sailing, like way back in the
day, where so if you're like like

1248
01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:43.439
an explorer and you have to go
around like the cape of Good Hope,

1249
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:46.359
whatever, and you don't know what's
on the other side, but you know

1250
01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:49.680
the waters are going to kind of
be treacherous, Like you have to like

1251
01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:55.359
build up your kind of sailing experience
and to be able to handle those mysterious

1252
01:24:55.720 --> 01:25:00.600
and potentially treacherous waters once you get
around that that like the cape, like

1253
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:02.399
once you get to that zone of
we don't we don't, we don't know,

1254
01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:06.239
so that death could potentially be the
same thing. So in order to

1255
01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:12.960
practice to be experienced sailor for these
treacherous waters, you have to cross to

1256
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:15.640
get in their ty a lot or
practice getting out of body a lot,

1257
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:21.840
which is and that's that's that's why
every single culture has the resurrection rituals to

1258
01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:26.720
have these ego deaths, to these
imitation deaths, to try to journey to

1259
01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:29.239
the end of world and come back
with these little nuggets of knowledge. But

1260
01:25:29.279 --> 01:25:32.600
like mainly meditate, like you don't
have to like go to the extreme,

1261
01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:40.680
but just try to meditate, but
just like try to. Yeah, I

1262
01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:43.760
mean, like you said, like, do practice all these tools the best

1263
01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:48.319
of your How would yeah, befoose
me. I would get serious about meditating

1264
01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:51.600
and not like do it from an
app or like casually do it. I

1265
01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:54.920
would try to go to like the
most ancient systems I can and the ones

1266
01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:58.279
who haven't had it figured out,
and just try to get build up my

1267
01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:01.439
sailing experience as best I can.
And so that part of it could be

1268
01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:06.880
if we are scared at the moment
of death and if we go into it

1269
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:14.000
traumatic, then our karma, our
momentum, our trajectory will be traumatic and

1270
01:26:14.039 --> 01:26:17.880
that'll push well next. According to
Robert Monroe, he saw people that were

1271
01:26:18.399 --> 01:26:21.760
dying and stuff, and that's exactly
what you just said, is exactly right,

1272
01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:26.159
Like not only did they take their
traumas with them into the afterlife,

1273
01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:29.720
but all of their fears, like, yeah, they even thought he was

1274
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:31.279
the devil and He's like, no, I don't even know what's going on

1275
01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:33.520
here, I'm not the devil.
And they were like freaking out, like

1276
01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:38.039
oh, please don't take me to
hell, and just all kinds of weird

1277
01:26:38.079 --> 01:26:41.479
stuff, you know, exactly.
Yeah, So if you if you can

1278
01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:45.079
get to a place where like,
like we're talking about it, like it's

1279
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:46.760
going to be a clear thing,
like I'm going to see the light and

1280
01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:49.079
know and be like, Okay,
I'm gonna make a conscious choice. But

1281
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:53.079
I don't know what that that person, well my grandmother, they're talking to

1282
01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:55.239
me. That doesn't seem like my
grandmother. I don't know what that.

1283
01:26:55.640 --> 01:26:57.840
It might not be that clear.
It might be this weird. It might

1284
01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:00.199
be this kind of scary, trippy
thing which all colors around you and you

1285
01:27:00.279 --> 01:27:04.279
just like you're drowning almost and you're
just trying to grab for any any piece

1286
01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:06.800
of like rock or coral if you
can, just to get your bearings and

1287
01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:11.520
stuff. But if you're like a
more experienced diver, more experienced swimmer,

1288
01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:14.880
then you'd be better to like,
okay, here a ticket's breath, Here

1289
01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:16.159
I am, here, I am, And just the more time you or

1290
01:27:16.199 --> 01:27:21.039
the more you have your bearings,
the more like the better choice you can

1291
01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:25.079
make. You might be able to
have more intuition at that moment or whatever

1292
01:27:25.319 --> 01:27:28.199
this seems live, we should all
just get out of body as much as

1293
01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:32.159
possible, you know, yeah,
safely, Yeah for sure, Like so

1294
01:27:32.279 --> 01:27:34.840
I did this poll, I said, if you had two choices, according

1295
01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:39.279
to according to Wes Penry, when
you die, do you go to the

1296
01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:42.880
tunnel of light or do you go
to a hole in the grid to the

1297
01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:47.359
unknown? You only have these two
choices, what would you choose? I'm

1298
01:27:47.399 --> 01:27:50.760
surprised, honestly, seventy three percent. I mean, I only have sixty

1299
01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:55.520
votes so far, but seventy three
percent of people said that they would go

1300
01:27:55.600 --> 01:28:00.359
to a hole in the grid to
the unknown. So I mean I thought

1301
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:03.359
most people would go to the light
in the tunnel, like honestly, well,

1302
01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:08.760
face faced with those two options,
if it's a light or a hole

1303
01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:13.359
in the ground in the grid,
like a hole in the grid, like

1304
01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:17.159
I am also like a conspiracy there
is too, So part of me is

1305
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:23.399
like, is this entire narrative an
arconic tactic to get us to not go

1306
01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:26.159
to the light. The light could
be the answer, so you inject the

1307
01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:28.920
conspiracy there is? Don't trust the
light? Like I said, everything could

1308
01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:31.319
be a trap. Everything could be
a trap. So so if there's this

1309
01:28:31.439 --> 01:28:35.079
like heavenly glowing door, and it's
like you hear all your relatives partying,

1310
01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:39.119
and you hear music and champagne bottles
popping in this in this other room.

1311
01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:42.319
And then there's this little weird dingy
shack and I mean not shack, but

1312
01:28:42.359 --> 01:28:46.119
like it with a little digy hole, like I don't know. Like then

1313
01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:48.159
it's like from creeping a van being
like, hey, come here, come

1314
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:50.840
here, come here, don't don't
go over there, like I don't know,

1315
01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:54.920
don't go to the light man,
do to light you know? No,

1316
01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:57.439
No they don't, they don't.
They just want to steal your way.

1317
01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:00.640
I don't know. I just want
to steal your soul man. Yeah,

1318
01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:03.159
loosh, but come here, come
here. I know the real secrets.

1319
01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:05.239
I hey, come here, take
this pill. Looks like at the

1320
01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:09.960
red pill and some creepy morpheous guy. That's exactly how I feel about this

1321
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:13.439
whole thing. I feel like it's
some dude in an ice cream truck,

1322
01:29:13.479 --> 01:29:15.800
some creepy dude just saying it's all
a big trick man, and he's kind

1323
01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:18.319
of whacked out of his mind a
little bit because he's been doing meth and

1324
01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:23.359
adderall too much, let's face it, and like he's whacked out of his

1325
01:29:23.479 --> 01:29:26.000
mind, and he's like, it's
a trick man, I know the truth.

1326
01:29:26.039 --> 01:29:30.239
And you're like yeah, exactly,
but nobody knows the truth. That's

1327
01:29:30.279 --> 01:29:31.840
the thing. We can't know truth. These are all just my grandma's at

1328
01:29:31.840 --> 01:29:34.560
the top of the light there.
I don't know what's in that hole.

1329
01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:39.399
I'm honestly surprised that seventy percent of
people said they're going to go to the

1330
01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:43.920
hole, which tells me that don't
be mad at me. I don't want

1331
01:29:43.920 --> 01:29:45.439
to make my own audience mad,
but it tells me that you guys are

1332
01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:53.920
pretty convinced. I mean, you're
pretty influenced. I mean, that's that's

1333
01:29:54.319 --> 01:29:59.119
that's my huge problem with I like
to tell myself the conspiracy theorist. Conspiracy

1334
01:29:59.119 --> 01:30:03.279
theorists like to really poke at like
what I can said, it would be

1335
01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:09.039
like tropes, mainstream conspiracy things,
and it's that's the most frustrating thing for

1336
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:13.760
me is how easy it is for
everyone in all of our communities to be

1337
01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:18.680
like sucked into believing somebody it's it's
just or just it just takes. Like

1338
01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:23.239
the biggest examples is like I'm not
going to get in the politics at all,

1339
01:30:23.279 --> 01:30:26.439
but just for just like like Trump
and Elon Musk, I'm somebody who

1340
01:30:26.439 --> 01:30:29.439
believes that all the presidents are related. None of the choices are for us

1341
01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:31.079
all but all it takes to be
like, oh, well, the mainstream

1342
01:30:31.079 --> 01:30:34.159
media is lying to you. You
don't like the mainstream media. Well,

1343
01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:38.479
the mainstream media does not like this
person. So it's so fact though,

1344
01:30:38.560 --> 01:30:42.239
this person must be good. And
it's like, no, that is dumb,

1345
01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:46.000
that's that that is that is a
very like that's very simple. It's

1346
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:48.399
way too simple. And if I
know that, there's no way that they

1347
01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:51.319
don't know that, and they can
prop up anybody. If you if you're

1348
01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:57.760
the richest person in the world and
you are like trying to like building in

1349
01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:00.640
charge of all like the modern you're
the modern daya Parsons in Elon Muska.

1350
01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:04.399
You have all the rockets, you
your fans building, you goat statues,

1351
01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:08.520
but your head in a rocket.
You're also building AI. You're talking about

1352
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:12.000
AI demons and everything. You're the
most powerful, the richest person in the

1353
01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:15.720
world, in charge of the thing
that's collecting all of our data. The

1354
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:20.399
way to like keep yourself free from
criticism or to have like half the people

1355
01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:25.239
embrace you is to be like,
well, Bill Gates sucks, or the

1356
01:31:25.239 --> 01:31:29.319
mainstream media sucks, or Disney sucks, or like some like bullshit things that

1357
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:31.279
like, yeah, no shit,
Disney sucks a mean but like you are

1358
01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:34.720
still trying to plug people's brains into
AI. Well free speech, well,

1359
01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:38.520
free speech, yeah, like shut
up, buddy. I mean, it's

1360
01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:40.760
like it's such an easy thing.
It's like, oh, the mainstream media

1361
01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:43.079
hates Trump, like, so he
must be good. It's like, no,

1362
01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:45.119
he's a billionaire and he's hanging out
with the rest of them, and

1363
01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:46.640
he's part of the blood line and
he doesn't like you either. I mean,

1364
01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:49.399
but like they get you to trunk, they get it all like any

1365
01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:53.560
of them of them, they're all
part of the same blood line. You're

1366
01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:57.079
not gonna catch me going, oh, Trump's getting ransacked because of the trials.

1367
01:31:57.079 --> 01:31:59.840
And I'm like, look, man, Hitler said the same thing.

1368
01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:01.960
And I'm not comparing Trump to Hitler, but like, don't be stupid.

1369
01:32:02.239 --> 01:32:06.880
Like just because you're watching the TV
and somebody puts on a great presentation and

1370
01:32:06.920 --> 01:32:12.840
puts on a tie and says some
really powerful stuff, it's it's memes.

1371
01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:16.479
Like you said earlier, It's just
like everybody's turned into influential memes these days,

1372
01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:19.000
you know, that's all they are. And it's like a it's like

1373
01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:24.079
a commodity to. I mean,
free speech is important. I believe a

1374
01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:28.199
community say what you want, but
also it a nooys the hell out of

1375
01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:30.399
me where I mean, I say
some like I'm not big on Facebook anymore,

1376
01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:34.079
but like when I was, I
would say some outlandish things and I've

1377
01:32:34.279 --> 01:32:39.560
never been I've never received a band
I say whatever I want. I would

1378
01:32:39.600 --> 01:32:42.600
I go after like wreathing on and
crazy shit like that and everything I was

1379
01:32:42.600 --> 01:32:45.199
like that was I was on Freeman
for and stuff like I like, I

1380
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:49.159
don't I never there is people that
need to go. Like you see that

1381
01:32:49.239 --> 01:32:51.640
guy on Instagram. I don't mean
to cut you off, but there was

1382
01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:56.199
that dude that did get up on
Instagram that started crying saying that raything on

1383
01:32:56.199 --> 01:33:00.880
pretty much the rooms is life in
the military. It's I mean, they're

1384
01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:03.159
they're they're having the greatest weekend of
their their life right now. They're they're

1385
01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:06.039
they're like jumping up and up and
down right now. With the World War,

1386
01:33:06.039 --> 01:33:09.800
iie on the on the precipice.
I live in like a wretheon town

1387
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:11.680
or whatever. But just the point
of that is to say, like I

1388
01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:15.159
don't look, I don't know the
true like I'm not saying I know the

1389
01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:17.920
truth or anything, but I can
genuinely tell when someone's, you know,

1390
01:33:19.479 --> 01:33:23.279
not putting on a show. Like
this guy was like I saw some stuff,

1391
01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:25.880
they acted like it was normal.
I had questions and then they ruined

1392
01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:30.600
my life. Basically, I think
they're super. It was a huge Canada.

1393
01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:34.039
I won't get into it, but
Wretheon is is radiant. God,

1394
01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:38.159
it's it's just lusive for figure that
you were talking about the whole show.

1395
01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:42.119
It's this semirigrical figure. We're talking
about this whole show. It's it's they

1396
01:33:42.119 --> 01:33:45.560
were They were invented by vanerver Bush
who received these Tesla papers from Trump's uncle

1397
01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:49.000
and all all the mythology. He
was at the philled Up Experiment. He

1398
01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:51.840
was in charge. He was the
head of Majestic twelve, but the aliens

1399
01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:56.840
and everything. He was at the
Manhattan Project. He was like he invented

1400
01:33:56.840 --> 01:34:00.760
the transistor that gave us the Internet
and everything like like and then he created

1401
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:04.720
Wratheon uh and and and it's just
like that's where all like, we're not

1402
01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:09.079
we're not sending money to Ukraine,
We're sending money to Raytheon and then they

1403
01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:12.640
send the bombs to Ucrae. It's
like it's there. But the point of

1404
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:16.119
the point of that is like like
I've never been canceled on the internet,

1405
01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:19.760
but it seems like a lot of
these especially in these our communities, people

1406
01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:24.159
wear the canceling or I've been shadow
banded, or I've been I've been like

1407
01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:27.640
I've been got coming up at thirty
day band or coming up or they're trying

1408
01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:30.159
to cancel me or all this kind
of stuff, and they wear it as

1409
01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:34.880
like you have to yeah, like
like what I'm saying is true, trust

1410
01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:39.640
me, because the mainstream doesn't like
what I'm saying, so what I'm saying

1411
01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:42.800
must be true, and taking a
lot of people fooled by that. It's

1412
01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:45.000
like you can also like the mein
like you mean, it's like because the

1413
01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:47.960
mainstream doesn't like what you're saying,
doesn't not mean it's not also a lie,

1414
01:34:48.520 --> 01:34:51.800
you know, and a lot of
like that's a tough thing, like

1415
01:34:54.439 --> 01:34:58.560
particular getting grifted a lot like I
don't like we've talked about it. I've

1416
01:34:58.640 --> 01:35:01.399
never been I get something to say
about it. I don't understand that number

1417
01:35:01.479 --> 01:35:05.640
one word salad with a ten dollars
super chap by the being thanks brother,

1418
01:35:10.880 --> 01:35:15.479
Okay, I don't have a war
against YouTube, but like I don't,

1419
01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:17.560
and if you do something against their
policies, they're like, hey, you

1420
01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:21.520
can't do this. They give you
like warnings or is there something else you

1421
01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:27.000
want to do or you want to
dispute this, like it takes. I'm

1422
01:35:27.039 --> 01:35:30.520
not sure what you actually have to
do to get banned to begin with,

1423
01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:35.359
unless you're trying to get banned,
because I've put stuff up here that technically

1424
01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:38.600
should be banned and they've came to
me. It's like, hey, man,

1425
01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:41.640
this goes against our policies. You
can replace it, you can take

1426
01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:45.359
it down, or you can dispute
it. We're not taking your channel down

1427
01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:49.359
or anything like you directly. I
don't know, Like I don't understand it

1428
01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:55.319
honestly, how people get canceled so
easy. Yes, I for sure have

1429
01:35:55.439 --> 01:36:02.079
seen people like some people, I
mean, free speech is important, trying

1430
01:36:02.119 --> 01:36:06.319
corporations are bad, so I'm gonna
side with free speech always screw you to

1431
01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:13.239
But also I've seen many people with
like podcasts and stuff or whatever like try

1432
01:36:13.319 --> 01:36:17.720
to get more money by like,
oh I've been canceled, send me money.

1433
01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:19.640
I mean, it's it's a huge
I mean, in the in the

1434
01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:25.159
comedy podcast send me money. That's
a huge thing. That's not even just

1435
01:36:25.199 --> 01:36:28.359
conspiracy stuff. That's just like that's
just like even like in the political sphere.

1436
01:36:28.399 --> 01:36:32.279
I mean the joke is like like
get that like sweet sweet Patreon money

1437
01:36:32.319 --> 01:36:38.079
from like the conservative right or whatever. It's like, oh, I've been

1438
01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:41.199
canceled on Fox News. Let me
go make way more money on Patreon from

1439
01:36:41.199 --> 01:36:45.000
everyone who's like I mean, it's
it's it's like that's just but it happens

1440
01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:48.600
here too. It's people pretend like
like I don't want to say any names

1441
01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:55.119
or whatever, but some huge,
big shows took a huge leap financially.

1442
01:36:56.680 --> 01:37:00.439
It's just like it was a good
decision financially to make. And just to

1443
01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:03.560
say, just to make an app
and to make a good financial decision,

1444
01:37:04.119 --> 01:37:08.239
she should be fine. Everyone's allowed
to make money, but I don't like

1445
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:12.800
when you manipulation. Manipulation. Don't
pretend it's for free speech. Don't pretend

1446
01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:15.479
it's because you were canceled, because
you weren't. I mean, like,

1447
01:37:15.680 --> 01:37:16.920
just make money. It's fine,
Like I like your show, I'll give

1448
01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:18.760
you money, Okay, that's what
I say. I say, Look,

1449
01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:23.920
if you value this show, give
us you know, donate like my share

1450
01:37:23.960 --> 01:37:26.439
to donate or something. If you
value the show, I'm not going to

1451
01:37:26.520 --> 01:37:30.359
trick people tricking dude, you want
to know why. I think it's not

1452
01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:32.119
just about that. Like, well, I read Art Bill like I'm a

1453
01:37:32.239 --> 01:37:35.800
huge R. Bell fan. I
don't even like this whole I like radio,

1454
01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:40.680
I don't like the whole influencer world, you know, and R Bell

1455
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:44.399
in his book The Art of Talk
Radio, which is one of my favorite

1456
01:37:44.439 --> 01:37:47.640
audio books, he did he made
it imperatively clear in his book. He

1457
01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:53.880
said, never manipulate your audience and
never lie. You'll be accused of all

1458
01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:58.319
these things time and time again all
the time, but the important thing is

1459
01:37:58.640 --> 01:38:03.119
is that you never do it.
Yeah, right, because most people know

1460
01:38:03.439 --> 01:38:06.720
just like you know, you don't
have the facts or proof, but you

1461
01:38:06.840 --> 01:38:12.199
have a hunch that's something ain't right
about that, yeah, Versus like if

1462
01:38:12.239 --> 01:38:14.520
you knew a person for a long
time and somebody's like, oh, yeah,

1463
01:38:14.560 --> 01:38:15.840
this person's a manipulative whatever, and
you're like, I don't know,

1464
01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:18.880
I've been listening to for years.
It just didn't seem like that, you

1465
01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:24.800
know, exactly, Like I think
a lot of influencers and anybody that tries

1466
01:38:24.880 --> 01:38:28.640
to manipulate or control things, or
play a little game or go to the

1467
01:38:28.720 --> 01:38:31.159
drawing board to try to like move
ahead in life in any kind of way.

1468
01:38:31.800 --> 01:38:35.000
Yeah, it's a piece of shit
if you ask me. Yeah,

1469
01:38:35.039 --> 01:38:40.399
exactly. Yeah, there's there's a
there's a fine line between with the with

1470
01:38:40.479 --> 01:38:43.399
the TikTok influences and that type of
stuff. It's it's they do more.

1471
01:38:43.840 --> 01:38:45.800
It's more like a positive spin.
Like with the conspiracy stuff, it's it's

1472
01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:49.520
frame more negative, like I'm being
oppressed, so give me money with it.

1473
01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:55.960
With the TikTok stuff, it's more
like but just pretending that what you're

1474
01:38:56.000 --> 01:39:00.640
doing is organic even though like sponsored
content and spawn con. I just came

1475
01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:02.840
out with an app and now you
got three games more money, right,

1476
01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:06.680
yeah exactly, exactly whatever, just
like like all the the whole fitness world

1477
01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:11.600
or whatever, and just just like
I don't know people, people are like

1478
01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:15.159
the people watching you and sending you
money are important, you mean, and

1479
01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:17.520
like you've been showing in the chat
like and you know, you know the

1480
01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:21.439
people in the chat that it's a
family here. But then like these bigger

1481
01:39:21.439 --> 01:39:25.239
people people you see on TikTok and
everything, they don't treat it like that.

1482
01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:29.119
It's like it's it's like the people
are meaningless and they're just being batted

1483
01:39:29.199 --> 01:39:32.399
around, like and it just it's
it puts a bad taste on mouth or

1484
01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:35.279
whatever. And it happens a lot
with the biggest stuff to it. I

1485
01:39:35.319 --> 01:39:38.800
can tell you that it does get
hard. Like there was a point in

1486
01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:41.720
time, and I'll just say,
like when the show was at a level

1487
01:39:41.720 --> 01:39:45.359
where I couldn't keep up with everything, you know, and like people just

1488
01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:48.239
I had people that would message me
on Facebook and if I didn't answer them,

1489
01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:54.119
they would get like dramatically. You
know. I'm like, I don't

1490
01:39:54.199 --> 01:39:58.560
understand. So I don't understand how
to take this to the next level,

1491
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:02.560
right, because I care abound people. I like deep connections. But if

1492
01:40:02.640 --> 01:40:05.880
ever, like you, once you
get to a certain level, you can't

1493
01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:12.000
give attention to like, you know, everybody, right Yeah, But then

1494
01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:15.720
again, I also see what you're
saying is some people just disregard to everybody

1495
01:40:15.079 --> 01:40:17.920
period, you know, and you
don't have to do that either, you

1496
01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:23.359
know. Yeah. Yeah, I
mean, like like one of my favorite

1497
01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:27.520
people is like duncan trustle or whatever, and he's big enough. I mean,

1498
01:40:27.560 --> 01:40:29.520
he's like a million downloads a month, whatever. So if I was

1499
01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:32.279
like, yeah, if I was
to send him an email, I would

1500
01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:34.800
not expect him to return that email. I'm sure he gets a lot of

1501
01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:38.800
emails. But I might be loved. He might. He might but like

1502
01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:41.640
but I but I also believe that
he loves his audience. I mean,

1503
01:40:41.640 --> 01:40:44.319
I don't believe he's trying to manipulate
his audience. That he cares about his

1504
01:40:44.399 --> 01:40:47.039
audience. But you have to understand, as somebody who like, if you're

1505
01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:51.800
in a some kind of weird,
nebulous friendship with the people that you're listening

1506
01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:54.640
to, like who don't know you, whatever, whatever, you have to

1507
01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:58.039
understand like it goes both ways and
stuff like they care about you, but

1508
01:40:58.079 --> 01:41:00.880
you have to care about them enough
to like give them room to breathe and

1509
01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:04.520
stuff like they can't be like you
were. For every email you sending,

1510
01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:06.760
there's a thousand other ones and stuff
too, every message just sending, there's

1511
01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:11.000
one hundred other ones. And so
it's like, I believe Duncan, you

1512
01:41:11.039 --> 01:41:14.680
have to create an atmosphere where your
audience can trust you. I trust Duncan

1513
01:41:15.199 --> 01:41:17.840
like cares about the idea of his
audience, like he does know it's all

1514
01:41:17.960 --> 01:41:20.680
he cares about us, so that
when he doesn't respond, it's not a

1515
01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:26.279
slight to me. But if like
you curate an audience where it's like combative

1516
01:41:26.359 --> 01:41:28.720
or it's like they're all coming to
get me, or it's like I'm beeting

1517
01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:30.680
cancer and stuff, then your audience
is gonna be a bunch of scary freaks.

1518
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:35.159
Who. Yeah, I read a
quote from someone who said propaganda was

1519
01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:39.760
created not only to confuse, but
to exhaust you from caring to try to

1520
01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:42.760
find out the truth anymore. Yeah, which I have. Yeah, I

1521
01:41:42.840 --> 01:41:46.119
mean people can just get sick of
like because you can't see through the veil,

1522
01:41:46.439 --> 01:41:48.239
you know. Yeah, it happens. It happened to me. I

1523
01:41:48.319 --> 01:41:51.079
mean, look, I was doing
the news for the for the station before

1524
01:41:51.079 --> 01:41:56.319
and then just the pandemic hit and
everything and just my own traumas and just

1525
01:41:56.680 --> 01:41:59.119
build up stuff in life. Just
I gotta take a break. So you

1526
01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:02.560
just even so I probably last year
were years past, I probably myself and

1527
01:42:02.640 --> 01:42:05.479
being like I listened to everything.
I don't create content, but I can

1528
01:42:05.479 --> 01:42:10.840
assume everything. I'm a taste maker. But you should create content. Everybody

1529
01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:15.399
loves you mean, but but I
just mean, like now because of like

1530
01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:18.960
the just everything the pressures of the
world's putting on me. I don't listen

1531
01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:24.960
to I'm just I'm in strict comfort
show mode, comfort mode, just re

1532
01:42:25.119 --> 01:42:29.359
listening stuff. I'm all pop culture
thing, just real easy listening type of

1533
01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:33.000
just like that's the politics, isn't
the same thing? Well, I'm checking

1534
01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:35.800
out of politics, like it's all
it's all just blah blah blah. Like

1535
01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:39.680
I don't care about that. What's
up a Star Wars? Like the whole

1536
01:42:39.720 --> 01:42:41.840
world is kind of is kind of
going to that, and for sure it's

1537
01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:44.399
the tactic. You know. The
clolest thing going right now on pop culture

1538
01:42:44.439 --> 01:42:47.600
is Fallout. Okay, I gotta
watch that. I'm gonna if you played

1539
01:42:47.640 --> 01:42:53.439
the video game Fallout like I have, religiously, and you're into the end

1540
01:42:53.479 --> 01:42:58.760
of the world thing, and like
I usually TV shows screw up video game

1541
01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:01.760
series big time, like they did
with Halo, but the Fallout one,

1542
01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:05.000
it's pretty good. Actually, yeah, you know, did you? Did

1543
01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:08.800
you? I gotta I've heard it's
good. It's a little weird that they

1544
01:43:08.840 --> 01:43:13.079
moved they moved the data crazily like
to fit in with this everything that the

1545
01:43:13.159 --> 01:43:15.319
Eclipse and World War three and the
sort of a war movie coming out and

1546
01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:19.840
all kind of crazy chaos for the
last week, like they unexpectedly pushed their

1547
01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:26.399
head thing up like Fallouts about post
nuclear war. Yeah, Fallout right basically,

1548
01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:29.119
Yeah, it's a little in to
me. I'll play it on this

1549
01:43:29.279 --> 01:43:33.319
channel sometimes, you know, but
I take it down. I'm trying to

1550
01:43:33.439 --> 01:43:38.000
do a gamer channel, but it's
different. I started playing it on this

1551
01:43:38.119 --> 01:43:40.239
channel and people were like, wait, is this the podcast or is this

1552
01:43:40.319 --> 01:43:42.760
a gaming channel? And I'm like, why does it have to be one

1553
01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:45.760
or the other, you know,
like, I just want to stream this

1554
01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:48.399
game because it's fun. Some people
liked it, you know. Yeah,

1555
01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:51.039
if you're playing games, you should
be you should be streaming them for sure.

1556
01:43:51.479 --> 01:43:54.920
Yeah. Did you do you play
Fallout? Have you ever played it?

1557
01:43:55.239 --> 01:44:00.319
My My most recent system is three
sixty. I used to I used

1558
01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:04.039
to uh on there. No,
I used to be a big I would

1559
01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:08.840
play. My routine was every day
after work, I'd play a full game

1560
01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:12.279
of NBA, like full twelve minute
quarters whatever. So I played a full

1561
01:44:12.319 --> 01:44:15.359
eighty two game season, no simulations
like it, like it's like a two

1562
01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:18.840
hour game whatever. Put of routine. So I was a gamer in NBA

1563
01:44:19.159 --> 01:44:24.920
standards, but not I never had
the money to get like I never like

1564
01:44:25.640 --> 01:44:30.399
I spend my money on weed on
a video games. Basically. I remember

1565
01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:31.800
when we did the Fringe Fest.
I was like, dang, dude,

1566
01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:35.920
he like you are a professional smoker
man? Oh yeah, Snoop Dog beat

1567
01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:40.560
Bro, Yeah for sure. I
mean it's split, it's spliped. So

1568
01:44:40.760 --> 01:44:42.800
like if you see me, it's
not all straight joints. I I gotta

1569
01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:45.199
mix a little tobacco on it.
But just because I don't have a Snoop

1570
01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:49.399
Dog money, you know that,
Like I can't be just smoking straight weed

1571
01:44:49.439 --> 01:44:53.960
all the time. But yes,
it's not good. That's a it has

1572
01:44:54.039 --> 01:44:58.920
a it has a grip over me. You know, it's a dangerous mistress.

1573
01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:01.800
You know. Well, I loved
having you on here, man,

1574
01:45:01.960 --> 01:45:04.640
Like, if it was up to
me, I'd stream twenty four to seven.

1575
01:45:04.880 --> 01:45:08.960
Honestly, I would be one of
those streamers that people are like,

1576
01:45:09.039 --> 01:45:11.680
what's Joe doing. I don't know, He's eating peanut butter, you know,

1577
01:45:11.880 --> 01:45:15.640
Like I love I love doing this
kind of stuff, right, I

1578
01:45:15.720 --> 01:45:19.600
don't know why. I love broadcasting. It's fun to me. But if

1579
01:45:20.359 --> 01:45:25.479
I had a capable set up to
stream video games, I would be I

1580
01:45:25.520 --> 01:45:28.359
would that was a mist streaming video
games. I think it'd be fun.

1581
01:45:28.359 --> 01:45:30.960
I think if we were like playing
games like we were playing like Cyberpunk twenty

1582
01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:33.920
seventy seven, and oh god,
I want to play that so bad.

1583
01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:38.039
I don't have a system that I
can play it with. That'd be fun,

1584
01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:40.119
though, right, that would be
That'd be funny, I think.

1585
01:45:41.520 --> 01:45:44.239
Yeah. I mean, if you're
playing games anyways, you're going stream it,

1586
01:45:44.399 --> 01:45:46.399
you know, why not? But
yeah, it's been a pleasure for

1587
01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:50.000
the thank you. See. Well, I'll get like a hundred subscribers a

1588
01:45:50.079 --> 01:45:55.239
week and then one hundred people unsubscribe, and that's like every week, one

1589
01:45:55.319 --> 01:45:59.439
hundred and five subscribe, one hundred
and five unsubscribed. I don't understand why

1590
01:45:59.479 --> 01:46:03.079
it's happening. I think it's a
I us took about like the algorithm being

1591
01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:08.199
like like a god, almost like
it's put you through the bases. This

1592
01:46:08.279 --> 01:46:13.319
is the last time that mister Beast. He was like he was like he

1593
01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:15.560
was doing all the studying and everything, so he was he was putting to

1594
01:46:15.640 --> 01:46:17.720
the time and work in and stuff. But he was like from I had

1595
01:46:17.800 --> 01:46:21.039
just one day where I was all
the same work, all the same preparation,

1596
01:46:21.079 --> 01:46:24.680
all the same everything I was undred
hundred yews a day, a hundred

1597
01:46:24.720 --> 01:46:27.439
years a day, hundred years a
day, and then the next day I

1598
01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:30.399
changed nothing. I was still doing
the same same work. The next day

1599
01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:33.720
ten K, ten K, thirteen
K, fifteen K, and just overnight

1600
01:46:33.800 --> 01:46:35.800
he didn't change. He was still
doing work the whole time. But then

1601
01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:40.680
he didn't change anything specifically, and
just he was rewarded, like he put

1602
01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:45.159
in the effort in the algorithm jokingly
rewarded him for it. So I think

1603
01:46:45.199 --> 01:46:47.359
if you just keep streaming, streamed
to nobody, streamed to ten people,

1604
01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:53.039
streamed to ten people, eventually that's
kind of the sex story of everyone.

1605
01:46:53.039 --> 01:46:56.640
It just manifest. It'll pop off
and then have you have you tried kick

1606
01:46:56.720 --> 01:46:59.760
yet? I mean it doesn't kick
give you like, give you like twenty

1607
01:46:59.800 --> 01:47:02.880
doll an hour to stream to like
ten people something? No, DG.

1608
01:47:03.119 --> 01:47:08.119
Is that is that you bro the
lighting the void? Not that fluff or

1609
01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:11.039
another? Is that who I think
it is? Is that Chuck? What's

1610
01:47:11.119 --> 01:47:15.399
up? Bro? Uh? No, I've seen kick, But I get

1611
01:47:15.439 --> 01:47:20.159
on there and like twitch and kick
and it's like it's just like a bunch

1612
01:47:20.199 --> 01:47:25.760
of girls getting attention man, and
you know, or even twitch did it

1613
01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:27.880
where they opened it up, and
I get on there and I want to

1614
01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:30.439
find some cool people to hang out
with, some gamers, and then there's

1615
01:47:30.520 --> 01:47:33.359
just chicks torking them by a hot
tub or something like. It just ain't

1616
01:47:33.439 --> 01:47:36.199
my vibe, bro, Like it's
not my thing, you know, Like

1617
01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:40.399
I'm not saying that everybody does that
over there. That's not what I'm saying,

1618
01:47:40.840 --> 01:47:43.600
but attention. They're all fighting for
attention. Yeah, look at me,

1619
01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:45.479
Look at me. It's not like
it's they're doing it for fun,

1620
01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:48.720
even though you can tell like the
ones that do do it for fun are

1621
01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:54.159
probably the ones that get the more
viewers, unless they're girls trying to show

1622
01:47:54.199 --> 01:47:57.880
body parts and stuff. Yeah yeah, like that that that that that Kai

1623
01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:00.840
guy, that Kai whatever, that
that that that number one that I want

1624
01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:03.640
to stream or whatever. He seems
just like a you just having fun out

1625
01:48:03.680 --> 01:48:08.239
there, but he just like I
don't know, like it's seem to be

1626
01:48:08.319 --> 01:48:10.800
like organically having fun and then the
views will come, you know, yeah,

1627
01:48:10.840 --> 01:48:15.239
if if you're playing, if you
having fun, stream yeah yeah,

1628
01:48:15.439 --> 01:48:20.159
I mean maybe maybe maybe tied into
like the content somehow, like find like

1629
01:48:20.920 --> 01:48:25.880
weird games that could also have like
weird themes. I mean like I'm not

1630
01:48:25.920 --> 01:48:29.199
a gamer, but all these games
I've seen, even like like Got a

1631
01:48:29.279 --> 01:48:33.119
war just like like like every like
every single game I'm seeing it has like

1632
01:48:33.159 --> 01:48:35.840
a Chronos in it has some kind
of giant monster, has some kind of

1633
01:48:35.920 --> 01:48:40.520
like giant chronos in it. Like
there's all kinds of esoterica in every game.

1634
01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:45.279
Just maybe like maybe tie that into
it. There's I was going to

1635
01:48:45.359 --> 01:48:49.640
do a show on that and stream
like with a Destiny. Destiny and war

1636
01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:55.640
Frame have so much a cult like
connotations in them, you know, it's

1637
01:48:55.720 --> 01:48:58.760
crazy. Yeah, that'd be cool. But I mean even even if without

1638
01:48:58.760 --> 01:49:01.239
that just yeah, if it's a
streatment even to nobody, might as well,

1639
01:49:01.319 --> 01:49:04.560
you know. But yeah, but
it's been a it's been a blast.

1640
01:49:04.640 --> 01:49:06.479
I don't want to keep you too
long, but thanks for having me.

1641
01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:11.720
That's cool, it's cool. Uh
yeah, I probably do need to

1642
01:49:11.720 --> 01:49:15.039
get out of here anyways, I
don't, I don't. I want to

1643
01:49:15.079 --> 01:49:17.399
thank everybody for like's the most super
chats I think we've ever got. So

1644
01:49:17.479 --> 01:49:21.520
that's probably thanks to you, bro. You know. Oh no, hound

1645
01:49:21.640 --> 01:49:27.840
Dog and like I'm afraid I'm gonna
miss somebody, you know, but hound

1646
01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:34.199
Dog and word Salad and who else
did I miss Michael? Everybody that donated

1647
01:49:34.239 --> 01:49:39.439
don was a DJ. Don I
forget who all donated. I'd have to

1648
01:49:39.479 --> 01:49:42.279
go back and look. But thank
you, guys. Thank You's the point

1649
01:49:42.640 --> 01:49:45.159
in it. Masters. You can
see that it matters. It's like that's

1650
01:49:45.359 --> 01:49:48.520
it's it makes an immediate difference.
And just think, what how many dollars

1651
01:49:49.279 --> 01:49:53.239
kind of just like nebulously kind of
fall out of your pocket to just giant

1652
01:49:53.279 --> 01:49:57.520
corporations all day long, like a
small, small donation always helps you know,

1653
01:49:58.079 --> 01:50:01.399
well, I I want to make
something like I've been thinking about,

1654
01:50:01.479 --> 01:50:04.640
Like I want to make something that
has to do with like gaming and broadcasting

1655
01:50:05.039 --> 01:50:09.399
or something. I just sit around
and think about something cool I could make

1656
01:50:09.600 --> 01:50:13.840
for the with the friend FM other
than just like a freaking paranormal radio station

1657
01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.079
like that's it's boring to me,
dude, if we've we've been doing that

1658
01:50:16.199 --> 01:50:19.960
for a while, you know,
I want to make it into something else.

1659
01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:25.600
The next thing. I don't know
any music tonight, man, Listen.

1660
01:50:26.159 --> 01:50:29.119
I have to ask you this though, if there was one song,

1661
01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:33.399
and I'm not saying pick one song
like your favorite song, but I am

1662
01:50:33.520 --> 01:50:39.319
saying, if there was one track
nights talker that you could pick that you

1663
01:50:39.319 --> 01:50:43.399
would kind of be embarrassed that people
knew that you liked it, but you

1664
01:50:43.560 --> 01:50:46.479
really like it. That's the top
one. Put me on the spot.

1665
01:50:47.600 --> 01:50:50.399
I'm sure there is one. I
mean for me, it's like Wilson Phillips,

1666
01:50:50.520 --> 01:50:55.439
you know, yeah, I mean, but I like Wilson Phillips.

1667
01:50:56.319 --> 01:50:59.800
My go Too Easy one is uh
the first CDA ever bought. Like I'm

1668
01:50:59.840 --> 01:51:01.640
the I'm the age of the boy. I'm like the boy band. Err

1669
01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:06.960
so like like Backstreet Boys, or
I was I was five years old for

1670
01:51:08.039 --> 01:51:11.560
the first or I was first grade
for the first Battory Boys and in SANC

1671
01:51:11.640 --> 01:51:15.039
CD, so like my my my
gift for summer reading going in going into

1672
01:51:15.159 --> 01:51:19.199
first grade was like six six years
old. Whatever was the first Battery Boys

1673
01:51:19.239 --> 01:51:23.920
CD? So, like justin Timberlake. Growing up was like cool to me.

1674
01:51:23.960 --> 01:51:26.119
I would like go to the barber
shop and I have like I have

1675
01:51:26.239 --> 01:51:29.119
like curly ginger here, and I'd
be like, give me like the justin

1676
01:51:29.159 --> 01:51:32.840
Timberlake look or whatever. So like
I think that so like the SINC and

1677
01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:38.560
Batty Boys are like the Temptations in
my era, but I know that they're

1678
01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:44.079
stupid or whatever. They don't when
I grew exactly yeah to me, to

1679
01:51:44.199 --> 01:51:46.039
me, new kids aren't really great. And then and then like the generation

1680
01:51:46.159 --> 01:51:49.920
after, like the generation after is
like justin Bieber in one direction, and

1681
01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:53.039
to me, that's trash. I
mean, so you got to kind of

1682
01:51:53.039 --> 01:51:56.600
be in a certain like age age
range to kind of like it. You

1683
01:51:56.680 --> 01:51:58.800
know, if I was five years
older, I would think that I would

1684
01:51:58.840 --> 01:52:01.119
think back to Boys are trashed,
maybe, but I don't know. I

1685
01:52:01.119 --> 01:52:05.359
mean sure, it's probably better examples
than that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1686
01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:08.840
that's a quick one. I don't
have that out here. I should

1687
01:52:08.920 --> 01:52:11.159
have already had it pulled up.
I would have played it on the way

1688
01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:17.119
out, you know. Uh uh
the good answer that people are gonna hate.

1689
01:52:17.359 --> 01:52:26.479
But if like you're like in my
grain basically the call remix or just

1690
01:52:26.560 --> 01:52:29.439
a call by the by the Backstory
Boys, it's like it's like a later

1691
01:52:29.520 --> 01:52:32.000
Backstory Boys song. So from like
probably like to like two thousand and three

1692
01:52:32.079 --> 01:52:35.600
or whatever, when they're starting to
get like fallen off a little bit,

1693
01:52:35.760 --> 01:52:39.359
but uh it's oh the jam.
But you kind of got it. You

1694
01:52:39.359 --> 01:52:41.159
gotta you had to. You gotta
have been there at the time, or

1695
01:52:41.239 --> 01:52:43.399
you think it's like what the hell
is you talking about? You know,

1696
01:52:44.399 --> 01:52:46.279
wow, bro, answer your question. If you were to choose one,

1697
01:52:47.199 --> 01:52:51.079
I could see you doing the Backstree
Boys dance too. You know. Yeah,

1698
01:52:51.800 --> 01:52:55.439
I was. I was. I
was like six years old or whatever

1699
01:52:55.560 --> 01:53:00.640
the time period was. I did
uh karaoke Larger than Life with a watch

1700
01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:04.199
of my friends. They did karaoke
on the station like Gigi and I are

1701
01:53:04.199 --> 01:53:12.159
saying Dick in a Box from Saturday
Night Live. I remember that for that

1702
01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:14.520
song. I came later on the
show. I like you. Yeah,

1703
01:53:14.560 --> 01:53:16.399
it was fun, man, it
was fun. But uh yeah, like

1704
01:53:16.439 --> 01:53:18.479
we'll have to do it again on
me for a while, you know,

1705
01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:24.720
and everybody, Yeah, I'm still
U. I call my dad, dad,

1706
01:53:24.760 --> 01:53:29.960
if you're listening, Uh, I'll
call you something. I'm gonna call

1707
01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:32.399
everybody me. It's not it's not
a it's not to see what don't mean

1708
01:53:32.439 --> 01:53:35.560
to leave you hanging in particular,
and everything happens, like you said,

1709
01:53:35.640 --> 01:53:39.760
when you get popular, you know, you don't just don't even acknowledge people,

1710
01:53:40.239 --> 01:53:45.359
you know, No, I just
uh yeah, just my my,

1711
01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:48.439
I'm just in my own head all
the times. And just if you don't,

1712
01:53:48.600 --> 01:53:51.920
you don't like, pull me out, then I won't I won't pull

1713
01:53:51.960 --> 01:53:55.279
myself out, you know. So
my my best my best friends in the

1714
01:53:55.319 --> 01:53:59.119
world at every at every level,
my hometown friends, my my college friends,

1715
01:53:59.199 --> 01:54:03.399
by just my my my French friends, like all my everybody. I

1716
01:54:03.479 --> 01:54:06.039
love you. I love you still
the same as I loved you before.

1717
01:54:06.119 --> 01:54:11.079
It's just I don't know. I'm
bad at reaching out, so I apologize.

1718
01:54:11.159 --> 01:54:13.960
But it's fun, fun coming.
I said all my exers too,

1719
01:54:14.119 --> 01:54:19.520
I love you the same. Yeah. Yeah, seriously though, I mean,

1720
01:54:20.600 --> 01:54:23.439
yeah, I'm not mad. I'm
not mad at anybody. It's just

1721
01:54:23.520 --> 01:54:27.800
that I going through my own stuff
and I'm not good with them responding to

1722
01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:33.000
messages that type of stuff. But
I mean, we don't do Monday nights.

1723
01:54:33.039 --> 01:54:35.680
It was a special thing. You
know. Everybody came and hang out,

1724
01:54:35.720 --> 01:54:39.159
hung out. It was cool.
It was a good time. Yeah,

1725
01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:43.840
ibody to figure out what to title
it, you know, yeah,

1726
01:54:43.920 --> 01:54:50.159
I know, Uh, you get
to the Light or the Force or something

1727
01:54:51.279 --> 01:54:56.199
to the fourth to the fourth I'm
saving that one for I'm still I'm still

1728
01:54:56.319 --> 01:55:00.039
writing that one down. So I'm
hoping opened by by by Star Wars to

1729
01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:02.119
day I'll have that more more polished, ready to unveil to the world.

1730
01:55:02.479 --> 01:55:06.039
Maybe the cosmic bugs. Apper,
tricked by the light, the cosmic bugs.

1731
01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:11.319
There we go. I can definitely
make a thumb nail for that one.

1732
01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:15.840
Cosmic bugs Apper, colon, will
you go to the light or whatever?

1733
01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:17.840
Just a makeable understand what what's about? But yeah, thank you guys.

1734
01:55:17.840 --> 01:55:21.239
I'm sorry my mic is all messed
up. I'm sorry. I've been

1735
01:55:21.239 --> 01:55:25.479
in the same position the whole time. So I'm sorry, uh the staticky

1736
01:55:25.600 --> 01:55:30.880
and don't worry about that. But
thank you for being accommodating and forgiving and

1737
01:55:30.039 --> 01:55:32.960
uh okay again, thank you really
for thank you everybody listening. Yeah,

1738
01:55:33.239 --> 01:55:36.279
well, when we'll have you back
and then tomorrow night Dave Cruz will be

1739
01:55:36.359 --> 01:55:40.399
on so nice. All right,
I'll meet up. Let you go,

1740
01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:43.159
Thank you, brother, all right, nine, I y'all. Sweet dreams, SA