Hey, everybody, welcome back to Challenge the podcast all about the Challenge and
Brian sitting here across the internet for me and is Basement is big Uncle sweet
tea. I had to check the background to make sure I was right.
Yep, Basement always driving in her car, being totally distracted, gonna cause
all sorts of accidents. Hey, super super reckless Carlin the other ct I
I want to point out Carlin. I know you heard it already, but
I'm gonna yell at you again. You're supposed to be on the show last
week. I had the moment perfect, perfect Where world is Carlin, San
Diego, Joe ready to go? And you ruined it. You could still
be sorry. You could do it right now. It does work for right
now. It's too late. It seems right on time. No, I'm
sorry. Well, this time I am driving to Deluth for the North Shore
Inline Marathon. Is that Deluth going to be the home of the white trash
jeans that people wear around here? Yeah? Deluth Trading Company. Yeah that's
it. Yes, people will be roller blading a marathon tomorrow morning. But
yes, I appreciate you guys calling me out on my bullshit. I was
dying listening to the podcast last week. Oh and good fun of course,
Yes, no hatred. Everybody will knows Zach's not fucking here though, still
in a car driving down to Kentucky. Still not even at Alison's house yet.
Yeah, you jet setters, just leaving us, poor old Midwesterns behind,
just central Illinois. Do you know why I don't do stuff on Fridays?
Because we have a podcast to do. That's why me too, Wolfie,
And I'm dedicated and I would never quit or man of my responsibilities like
that. It's definitely not cold and lame and just don't do stuff on Fridays.
I blame I was going to say, MTV. I keep forgetting that
this is part of CBS Now and not MTV. I blame CBS for putting
the show on at like ten o'clock at night on a Thursday, because Fridays
are just easier to travel on. Well, the October twenty five season thirty
nine of The Challenge is returning to m TV on Wednesdays at seven pm Central
Time. All right, so that's doable, we can do that. The
night of the question is, yeah, sixty minutes, ninety minutes. I'm
gonna get ninety because of the Riders strike and because that's what they've done the
last several seasons. Probably probably true. Yeah, so we could start at
eight thirty. Yeah, yeah, I'm down to try that. Really appreciate
them going back to an hour though. No shit, these hour episodes are
just like tighter, Like they're just more satisfying. Yeah, they don't have
all the filler bullshit. It's not a bunch of like random panning of the
house and all the workout montages slow motion shit that doesn't need to be slow
motion at all. Yeah, cliffhangers where they go, they go to break
and then when we come back, we gotta watch like the last and a
half of what happens and then where are yep, all that bullshit. I
mean, they did do a little bit of a cliffhanger this week, but
it was only like a ten second thing that we had to rewatch to Tori's
big fall that was nothing. Yeah. Yeah, stupid TJ's drawn out like,
oh it only takes one ball, everybody. Yeah, I swear they
just loop that same audio from every other episode. Yeah, I do too.
It's it drives me nuts. It's kind of like the season where he
was. I know. Yeah, this is a little less authentic of a
version of TJ. But that's all right. Yeah, I feel like we've
had this conversation before. On the none of us are a big fan of
the CBS family friendly TJ. We want the surly MTV TJ back. I
want to watch somebody quit. I want to watch t J go off on
them. Yeah. Right, that's really the only change though, because I
otherwise I really like the CBS version. I like all these players, these
characters. I think they're doing a really good job with it. But TJ.
We need the MTV TJ with everything else being the same. Yep.
Yeah, because like, especially in the first season of USA and even in
World Championship, he was so nice to everybody. What is this I would
even take I would even take Paramount plus TJ. There's a little bit more
just laid back and funny because if everybody remembers the first season of All Stars,
he blows the airhorn, he's like sweet air worn. Yeah, but
I mean I feel like we got laid back TJ there because he knows all
of these players. Who knows all those players, and he's known them for
the better part of twenty years. So yep, I think so too.
I think it would take a while to get that on the CPS version.
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this episode? All right? This episode is episode nine, guys. It's
called Enemy of the State. Carlin. What the fuck is going on over
there? Sorry? Is it ringing in there? Yeah? I can hear
it. I don't. I don't know what's happening. It's needles calling.
No, a girlfriend of mine is calling. It's called needle dick from now
on. Oh, that's not nice. I don't know what I don't.
I don't compliment. Needle dick is better. I don't know what's happening.
Well, it is intolerable. Sorry, are we really doing this whole episode?
Okay? Thank god? All right, Carlin Muden, I couldn't listen
to that ringing anymore. It's gonna drive me nuts. All right. This
one is episode nine. It's called Enemy of the State. Uh. It
starts as every episode does. Tyler's coming back into the house as a champion,
flashing gang signs. Uh. Yep. He says that he's lad that
he won his elimination because he's no longer afraid to go down there and blah
blah blah shit. Yeah, he says, chance he might go down,
he'd probably be like no, yep. Alyssa is upset about losing Monty,
of course, but she thinks Tyler is quote sunshine in human form okay,
yeah, means he provides her with lots of vitamin D. That's a good
one. And Cassidy has a little talking head where she is proud of her
survivor brethren because they're all there. They have not lost a single survivor player
so far. All right, guys, I'm sorry, I have to jump
off because it's I don't know what's going on my way say Eric's Me and
Wolfie hold down the fort by Carlin. I hope we didn't like totally lose
her audio. That would be a big bummer. Yeah, all right,
Wolfie, Hey, it's just me, any buddy. It's kind of romantic.
I have some candles burning, kind of set the mood for us.
Did she actually leave or she's mute? I have no idea. Maybe she's
trying. Maybe she's waiting until she's done uploading and then she'll work. You
know what, Fuck everybody, that's right, So, Wolfe, does she
have a point? Do you think Survivor players are just tougher than the Big
Brothers. I think they probably have more of an advantage in this game because
it's a lot closer. I would say, like Survivors a closer game to
the Challenge. Yeah, I mean just maybe socially, and you know,
there's well I guess Big Brother has it too, and there in a house,
but I don't know. Oh, Carlin's back. No, I'm sorry,
she's probably sucked on my audio. Sorry, I'm you know, if
you're not gonna be dedicated to the podcast, I'm trying to be dedicated to
the podcast. I apologize to all of the listeners for the god awful ringing,
and I apologize to you, guys. I hope that this doesn't completely
fuck you ever. We love it, But yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, Like I feel like it's beyond Survivor. You have to
go through some harsh conditions. So maybe maybe for them it's just like what
I get to live in a house and do competitions. This is like easy
streamed to like what they usually do. Yeah, and I don't was what
was the question, tom? Our Survivor players just more tough than Big Brother
players? Gotcha? I do think they are, generally speaking. I think
it depends on the player. I don't see Sebastians being tougher the maybe,
but on the whole. If you just if yes, the Survivor players versus
the Big Brother I think I think Survivor. I would bet on Survivors most
of the time. Yeah, they have to do all that shit, starving
and like fucking no sleep and whatever else. So yeah, well I hate
Sebastian, guys. I'm just gonna throw it out there. I hate this
guy. Every time he's on the screen, I'm just I'm cringing and I'm
going nuts. He just really drives me nuts. He's laying in bed with
Tori, and he says, hey, I got six votes and I'm still
here, Like he's taking credit for this. He just they just name didn't
come out of the toilet. Who gives a shit, he didn't do anything.
I'm still here too, I didn't get anywhere. Yeah, yeah,
and this is the toys. I don't like him. Yeah, same.
He and Tori are there cuddling in bed. I will give Sebashtian a little
bit of credit here because I thought Tor was kind of uninterested in him,
but in this scene she does seem like she's interested. She's not resisting as
cuddles, She's kind of playing along with it. I don't know. Is
there something here guys? I don't know as much as there was with the
Romanian guy. With whoever. I mean, you know, Tori, do
do whatever you want to do. I don't. I don't give a shit
with However. But yeah, if I was Sebastian, I would not be
hoping for a relationship after this. Yeah. Well, I think we've seen
Tori with Jordan, which did seem like a true love, and so when
we see it with these other guys, it's like, oh, that's not
that's not the Jordan. That's not what she had with Jordan. But I
don't know. I just think she's much more of a free spirit mode and
she was with Jordan. It's fine. Yeah, yeah, I do have
to say I liked Fessey's comments on this of like, Tori gets into this
sort of thing every season she's kind of gone down this path and it never
really works for her. I don't want to give him credit for I also,
Carlin, like your years, but Tori's boobs like huge, Oh you
know I I didn't even notice. Yeah, me either. She was like
laying on her back and then I don't know, she's had like a tank
top one fairly look good. I have it written down here that Sebastian is
a try hard, sincere person and he's just totally cringe worthy. Just I
don't know, Carlin would do this, Would this shit do anything for you?
How? He just looks at her and he's like, I'm just so
glad I met you and all this shit. It's like, oh gross,
No, he seems like he seems like a fifteen year old trying to like,
Oh, I like you so much. This is so cute. Like
later on in the episode, he talks about I'm gonna come back and I'm
gonna kiss Tory on the mouth. Yeah. What I hadn't written was that
where else would you kiss her? I don't know, Like, why would
you say that out loud? Sometimes, Tim, when a man loves a
woman, well, I know, but like the mouth is the default,
so you just say, like, I'm gonna give her a kiss? Everybody,
what do he knows? You mean? Mouth? Adding mouth is weird.
It makes it weird. I don't know. Would you ever a kiss
on the mouth with tongue? Yes. This is also the first scene of
many good Michaela scenes that we get this episode where she's talking to Chris and
again, I just love Michaela. She is no bullshit. She just says
it like it is. And she's just like Chris, we're worried about you.
You're fucking around with other alliances. It doesn't look good. You gotta
knock it off. What did you guys think of Michaela in the scene?
Would you think of Chris's response? Any thoughts here? She speaks, but
yeah, she does speak the truth. I just wasn't too keen on either
of them. You don't like Michaela. No, I don't know what it
is about her. I just there's something about her I don't like. Mmm,
did you and you don't watch Survivor? Right, No, it took
me a little bit to warm up to her and Survivor, but I think
now that I'm warmed up to her, I just really like her. Yeah.
So anyway, and I think Chris, you know, he doesn't really
have much of a point. He just says, like, while I'm playing
with the people that I like, and if you don't like it, that's
your problem, which is, I don't know, not like the best strategy
here, Chris. I like Chris too, but I think he's an idiot.
And I think this this episode especially, he shows how much of an
idiot is social games are very strong. Uh no, that's for sure.
All right. So Chris says that not only is he aligned with Survivors,
but he's also in pretty tight with Corey Fessi and remarkably Josh, yeah do
you and they they are obviously not as aligned with Chris as Chris is as
aligned with them. We see, oh we see two of those three not
being particularly loyal loyal to him. He's way bottom of the total bold Yeah.
Yeah, he seems to think that maybe he's much higher on the totem
pole than he actually is. Yeah, he kind of has no real concept
of where he's at in this game, because he would do better aligning with
survivors and staying survivors strong by sort of trying to escape. That's it bites
him obviously. In this episode, Michaelis says her skill is seeing a few
steps ahead and then resolving problems before they happen. I think relatively true.
What do you guys think it could be true? I haven't really paid that
much attention to if she's like solving problems before it happened. But well,
did you this episode where she clearly identified a problem and tried to solve it
and Chris resisted what I'm saying, Like, she's like, that's my skill
set and I haven't seen that like this entire season. I mean maybe it's
true. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I agree with this one
episode where they've highlighted it. I don't know if it's been like something I
easily caught onto. Yeah, yeah, I agree with Wolfie on that.
I mean, if she can identify problems ahead of time and see if few
steps ahead, then how did she not see a few steps ahead in a
previous season where she had a whole list of names and all that sort of
thing, and that that was going to cause CHAOSO house. Yeah, she
learned, I'm not I shouldn't write shit down. Yeah, I don't know.
I I think it's just I think it's partially it's my bias. It's
like I'm not super keen on her. Maybe it'll take until the next season
or two. She seems like a strong enough player. I just there's something
about her and I can't put my finger on what it is. There's something
about her that I'm not clicking with. She has sort of a weird flat
affect with how she talks. She's like, not super expressive, and that's
a little it's a little weird to get adjusted to. But I don't know.
It doesn't bother me. All right, Wolfe, is your finger prepared
to hit that challenge button? Because we're here. This challenge is called speed
Jumps. It's played in two stages. The first stage, everybody's jumping on
height adjusted trampolines to look over a wall and add a bunch of numbers.
We haven't seen anything like this. You guys like this Challenge. That's how
I felt too. It kind of reminds me. I don't I don't know
if I liked it or dis I wasn't super excited about the first half.
The second half was kind of neat, but it kind of reminds me of
the Challenge in or I guess the final elimination in was it? I think
it was Free Agents where they had the Whack a Mole game. People were
standing on the platform and they would stick their heads through and have to count
an all that sort of thing, and the people sitting on the platform could
hit on the fake mallets. I think that was dirty. I think that
was Dirty thirty, wasn't it? Was it Dirty thirty? That was a
real fucking weird. Yeah. I just remember that Cara and Johnny Bananas had
to stick their heads up and Jordan was Jordan was there too. Wasn't Jordan's
stick as he? Oh? Yeah, Jordan too? Yeah? Yeah,
maybe it was Dirty thirty. Yeah, that was a weird one. Yes,
I thought this was interesting but stupid to watch, like everybody just bouncing
up and down, like what's this? And are all those boards the same?
Because they all had the same numbers at the end. They were all
the same. So why didn't they just have one big board, I guess
because then the people probably yeah, so that they all had the same Yeah,
I answered that one as I was Yeah, as I was asking it,
I was like, oh, yeah, of course, I mean you
could have very easily. Like I was actually kind of surprised that FESSI didn't
like look at Sebastian's board when they both ran up there and Sebastian got the
okay, and it looked like FESSI looked over, but then he came back
with the wrong number at the second time too. Yeah, So just I
was kind of hoping that they would do you each have your own board.
It is an individual number for each one of you, right, But that's
a lot of numbers for t J to memorize. Yeah, but like increase
by one. Yeah, they'll like start on one end and do it ninety
two and ninety three up to like one hundred and five or whatever it would
be which person has their own I don't know, it would be a lot
of numbers to memorize, but yeah, uh, yeah, for sure.
Well, Sebastian gets this one on his very first try. It only takes
him one attempt Boom killed it. Yeah, kind of impressive. But I
do wonder why he didn't tell Why I didn't tell anybody that he's closely aligned
with, Like you'd think he'd want to tell Tori. Yeah, tell Tori,
or to tell somebody that you could beat in the second heat or something.
There's there seems like there could be another strategy here that we didn't see
anybody else doing. You know, who you tell could be a part of
your strategy. But anyway, nobody did that. Everybody else is really struggling.
It's just, you know, this is a boring challenge to watch because
it's just people running back and forth and showing t J the chalkboard. I
don't know anything else to say about Heat one. Guys, Yeah, stupid
Fessie, Josh and Sebastian went it for the men, Chanelle, Michelle and
Tory win it for the women. They go on to Stage two, which
is another trampoline thing. Jumping on the trampoline on the back of a semi
truck. You jump up, you grab these colored flags, each flag different
point value. We've seen things like this before. I do have to say
the only other thing that I have about the first half. I forgot that
Josh was one of the people that made it. I was kind of surprised
that Josh made it through it as one of the top three, and it
wasn't like Wes or Johnny has never really proved himself for smarts, but like
Wes Or Chris or I don't know, someone else. I was surprised that
Josh was the one to make it. I was too, Yeah, I
was too. I'm good at math. Well. For round two, Sebastian
goes first. He gets nine points, has a big fall that ends up
being nothing. Tori goes second. She slams down hard. I thought this
is really interesting, Sebastian says he wanted to run up and help her.
Sebastian, she's on the back of a semi truck, cruising down, cruising
down this little weird highway thing. Seems like you shouldn't run up to a
semi truck. I thought for sure that she was going to be down to
the account Like that did not look fun. Yeah, she like banged her
head and looked like part of her neck and like the edge at the trampoline.
Yeah yeah, like full back all the way through it. Like it
just it looked like it knocked the wind out of her. I thought for
sure that the next scene we would see was medics and all that sort of
thing. Yep, it did look like it knocked the wind out of her.
She just had to kind of bend over and catch her breath and then
she was back in it. Yeah, she ends up getting six points.
Josh does just as poorly as all of us would have expected, can you
She's like guys like seeing this guy flailer out on a trampoline like a diption.
He's goofy ass trying to do anything athletic, even watching him run back
and forth from the original trampoline, so it's just committing Yeah, this guy
is just not an athletic person. He's just a clumsy goof. He's just
a goof. Yeah, he has no real insight as to himself. Yeah,
Michelle struggles. She can't seem to get the timing right. Uh,
she just does very poorly. Two points. Chanelle. I gotta say I
like Chanelle. I'm prefacing this. I like Chanelle, but Chanelle reminds me
of like one of these corporate speak people who like say a lot of words
and none of it means anything. And by the end you're just like you
like walk away, not knowing why the fuck you and bothered saying anything.
Oh that's awesome. I totally see that. So I have it written down
exactly what she said. She says, my strategy is to get high enough,
get enough air, go for the yellow or red flags to really maximize
the amount of points I'll get. And it's like, yeah, Chanelle,
that's like the whole fucking game, Like you just describe what the game is.
She gets the Nellie Awards just like the most obvious explanation in the world.
So she had the strategy down but did not serve her well. She
got one point. Really, she really struggled here. This is like if
Nelson was on this season, he'd be like, so, what I need
to do is jump really high and grab these flags because then I'll have the
most points. It's like, yeah, that's how this stuff works, right,
they explained it already. Yeah, it's it's very it's very silly,
but uh yeah, that's you know. And then we get FEESSI finally sealing
this up. Uh, Wolfie, would you like to criticize Fessi's run here?
I would because seems like while the trampolines were adjusted for Hype on the
first part of the challenge, they were not on this one. Since he's
I completely agree, super taller than everybody else, he had no like problem
jumping up and grabbing the top flags whatsoever. He was also grabbing like he
was like, I'm amazing, let me do a backflay. Well, I'm
gonna do just All you need is just one bounce, Like, no,
all uni is one bounce. Everyone else needs to like work up to it.
Yeah, But Festy, to his credit, he's the only one I
saw that was grabbing more than one flag per jump, And I wonder why
didn't other people grab two flags with two hands? You know, it's all
a couple of people did that, did you? I did not, But
maybe I just wasn't launching, Josh said one of them that way, probably,
yeah, probably. But Fessi kind of kills it. He gets eighteen
points, so doubling the second place team despite you know, his inherit advantages
here he got ten points. They blew the airhorn. He just kept going,
yeah, kind of showing off. Yeah. And before they even leave
the challenge grounds, Fessi already talks to the camera and says he's done going
after Big Brother. He wants to keep his Big Brother people, and he
is going to aim to get out survivor. So he's got a plan.
Even leaving this elimination with little even leaving this challenge with little power, he's
got a plan. We're back to the house. We see the meat heads
of the house, Fessi, Chris, and Corey. They're talking and Fessi,
kind of under his breast, says, I think we should throw on
bananas in West, but I know Tory won't let me do this, So
he's kind of showing his hand to the to these other guys. Is this
a good plan for Fessi to throw If it was up to him, should
he do this? Oh? I mean if I think if he could have
gotten away with the absolute Like we say this every season, get get them
out first, because if they don't get out early, then they will make
it to a final. Yeah, and they're they're skilled in finals. They
both won a couple of them. They're going to do very well. Yeah,
they should get him out. Yeah, agreed, agreed. This is
where we see Chris talking on the phone, and this is when I know
Chris is going in because they only show these phone calls to people that go
into elimination. Yep, he's talking to his wife. I didn't know he
had a baby. I suddenly like, Chris Moore, maybe Wolfee, the
baby's name is Margo. Trust me, I heard that, and I was
like, Hey, don't you steal my dog's name. That is your baby's
name. You guys can have something to talk about if you ever meet.
I'd like to shut the fucking face Chris. And then they get into a
fight and he'd beat the shit out of you. Yes, definitely he would.
Well, thank Carlin. I'm sorry, but I think he'd beat the
shit out of any of us. Maybe what about what about me and Wolfe
together? Maybe I think we could do it Wolfe, No, because I
think Tim would run away. Hey what are you talking about, Wolfe?
Look at this challenge. I've not backed down from. I'm a beer and
a half. I'm a beer and a half into this terrible fucking beer.
I wouldn't go to drink it because I'm not a quitter. Carlin, I'm
not a quitter. How dare you? How dare you both? I'm rooting
for Chris Moore because he's got a little baby, and I like reading for
dads and that baby I do dream. Uh not true. And Chris does
have a little bit of a chip on his shoulder. He says he really
has something to prove. He wants to do well this show because everybody sort
of judges him and for his Survivor win, like he doesn't deserve it or
something. So he is out to prove that he does deserve it. He's
a strong player. You guys didn't watch this see and so you have no
insight on that. No, I don't care, of course not. And
with that we are into nominations. So they sit down to the table.
Tori wants to go Alyssa and Tyler again, that seems like the easy answer,
uh, FESSI wants to eliminate Survivor people. So they kind of go
back and forth and kind of try to negotiate out a plan here. Almost
immediately Tori throws out Chris's name. FESSI does not fight this for even a
millisecond. He's he's just like, oh man, I guess if I have
to, Okay, I will. But all he asks in exchange is that
Tori not throw in Alyssa s anyone else's fair game as far as he's concerned.
Yeah, so, I I guess I didn't realize that. Do they
really only have two guys from Survivor? There? Is it just Sebastian and
Chris? I believe so? So we have five women from Survivor? Yeah,
Desi, Cassidy, Chanelle, uh, Michelle, and I'm missing one
Michaela. Yeah. Oh, I guess I didn't realize that because when she
said that, I mean, when he when Fessie said earlier, like I
know that that spashion is not going to be in there, then they threw
him Chris. It just I felt like there should have been another name,
and I yeah, all right, yeah. Uh So they go through this
sort of remaining women as we just did, to figure out who could be
eligible to throw in if not a Lissa, and Cassidy is the only name
that really makes sense because she'd made these she made these arrangements with Desi and
Chanelle and MICHAELA. And I guess she's closer to Michelle, So Cassidy is
kind of just it by default. So it's seen Chris. Have you guys
noticed after they put those little balls on the little shelves. Michaela is always
the first one into the room to see who it is. No, I
didn't notice that ever since I've started paying attention to it, it's always MICHAELA.
I think this is the third week in a row, and I wouldn't
be surprised if I go back if she's always, If she's always that,
it seems like she's always thinking of the game. You know, she's like
she's playing hard, So I don't blame her. Tori goes and finds Cassidy
and just tries to say, like, hey, I threw you in,
but it's because of X y Z. Don't take it personally. I don't
know. Cassidy is not buying it. If for those of you that watch
this on CBS, you might have noticed that Cassidy's nipple was blurred out in
this scene. It was kind of hanging out of a dress. If anyone
is wondering, was that unblurred on Paramount Plus, the answer is no,
it is still blurred on Paramount Plus. I am no Cassidy nipples to be
seen. Sorry, Carlin, I know you were looking forward to that.
No, it just it makes me get gold because there you guys were talking
about the full frontal from What's His face from a few like the previous I'm
Usa and whether that was going to be shown on Paramoult Plus, and like
I can understand a butt because a butt is a butt is a butt,
But when it comes to the more private areas, I feel like there's some
I don't know. I feel like it potentially some something along the lines of
like revenge porn laws that would not allow them to put that on there.
I don't know. I don't know. I feel like, if you're in
a house full of a bunch of cameras, that's on you. But what
do I know? Yeah, But I mean, I still feel like if
they're if they start having sex in the house, they're probably going to blur
everything out like they do on MTV, even on Paramount Plus. But they
shouldn't, you know, they shouldn't. They should let us see that.
They should have extra cameras for that showing full penetration. Jesus Christ. I'm
just saying I'd be a better one. I'd be I would watch that show,
didn't Big Brother used to show new to the back of the day when
it was showtime for Big Brother. Oh Dark, No, I don't know
that one. I don't know. We get a really awkward conversation between Fessi
and Chris, where uh, Fessy is sort of half apologizing but also kind
of dismissing Chris. Sorry, bro, that's about the extent of his apology.
He's just like, it's a gay man. I don't know what I'm
wanna say. It's a game. It's all gains voted them. He's like,
what the fuck. Yeah, it's all about hypocrites, man, They're
all hypocrites. But that's Barnet gays Barnet. Oh yeah, Unsa no Ansay
is over there. This one doesn't deserve it. Give me an Unsa all
right, close enough. So they're at the bar, Sebastian and Tory are
talking. This is where Sebastian says, hey, we should get out Corey.
Tori immediately says absolutely not. She actually says big yakes and tries to
shut him up, just says like, don't fucking go tell anybody else this
plan. This is a terrible plan. But Sebastian runs right over to Chanel
Cassidy and Michaela saying the same thing, we should go Corey. Michaela tries
to talk him out of it, but at the end She's just sort of
is like, well, we don't have to vote the same way, I
guess, just to sort of put an end to it. I'm super surprised
that he brought it up to Tory to begin with, Like, dude,
you know that he's a VET and that he's aligned with her. What are
you doing? He does not know where he fits in this house. No,
he does not. He thinks he's Tories number one. Yep, he
is not, though maybe he knows that now on his maybe on his flight
home he's realizing putting that together, hope. So spoiler, he goes home,
and this is kind of where all the chaos in the house starts.
I was kind of a big fan of just of this like sort of fast
moving chaos up until the vote. Did you guys like these chaotic moments?
Is there a lot of chaos? I think so, other than Corey just
showing up, You're like, bro, why do you say my name?
Like all of the Chris back and forth. He's telling these people one thing
and these people another yes, and they yeah, and they all kind of
get together, well Chris told me this. Oh well, Chris told me
this, And then it flashes the conversations where he's saying different things of different
people. Yeah, I kind of. I kind of liked it, but
it I agreed with Corey when he was like, you'd need to like slow
your roll a little bit and not try and do everything at once, because
the moment that they started playing everything together, it's like, oh, man,
like pick one, pick one and stick with it. This makes Chris
look terrible. Yes, and that kind of starts right now. MICHAELA and
Cassidy are talking. Is that Guida Wolfe? No, I was gonna see
you. I was wondering if we were up to the to the situation where
he's sitting with bananas and less. Oh, and yes, we'll be there
pretty soon. We got a few more random chaotic moments. First, MICHAELA
and Cassidy are talking. MICHAELA tells Cassidy that Chris is going around trying to
get Cassidy, in which I think is half true. I think Chris is
just really trying to make it a girl's day, which is Cassidy by default.
I don't know if he's like targeting her necessarily, but that's a spin
that is not wrong, I guess. But then Corey tells Michaela that Chris
was pitching Michaela to go in against Cassidy. So that's two survivors, which
is offensive to his alliance obviously, And then to Cassidy, Chris says that
they should throw in Michelle. So yet another two survivor women match up.
What is Chris doing? Why is he doing? What is he? Yeah?
I think I don't know why he didn't pick Alyssa and stick with it.
Yeah, he just needed to say one name and just say, like,
Cassidy you can beat her, and that's why I'm picking her, and
that's it, right, what else? And she's not on our alliance and
she's not Tori who you can't pick. Yeah, yeah, it seems like
an obvious move here, Chris. But Chris does everything but the obvious move.
Although I still don't understand why the entire house, which is a majority
of non Vet people, are not saying, hey, let's vote in Bananas
or Wes or you know what other I guess Michelle would be the only technical
VET woman left that's available to be voted for it. But yeah, no,
it is a little strange. Like I know that we talked the first
half of this season about how like, it's a lot of fun to see
them play this game and have the rookies kind of running it. But they
have definitely in the last two weeks they have just completely relinquished control and given
it back to the to the that's and just said, oh okay, cool,
yeah, we'll play your game. We'll let you guys stay Where did
where did the switch come in? Yeah? No idea, yep, yep.
So we get Corey confronting Sebastian here, because the whole house knows that
Sebastian was sort of angling after Corey. We see in a flashback that Tyler
told Corey this. Sebastian here just starts lying this episode, which I fucking
can't stand. I normally don't like the flashbacks. I think in this way
it told a really good story of just like how fucking weird Chris was and
chaotic, and I don't know, I think it was I think they were
used effectively here. I loved Sebastian trying to weezzle out of this with Corey
and just straight up lie and say no, no, no, that wasn't
me Top putting your name out there. That was Chris that put your name
out there. I thought it was a good move too, A good move
from Sebastian. Yeah, I thought it was a great move from Sebastian,
Like he's Chris is already causing so much chaos, why not try and pile
on top of it and see if Corey agrees with what you're saying, Like
it's it's a better shot than saying yeah I did. I guess. I
mean, you're you're right. It's better. It's better than not trying.
But he's such a bad liar. Oh yeah, percent like it didn't work
at all, But I just I liked the move. I thought it from
if it were someone. I feel like Wes's lies this season have not been
great, but in previous seasons, I feel like if Wes or Johnny had
tried and pulled this move, try and tried to pull this move, it
would have gone over much better. Yeah. Maybe I think Corey just did
not buy this for a millisecond. I don't think. I don't think it
was even close. He didn't, which made it all the funnier. Yeah,
I mean, Sebastian did every single thing that you can pick out from
and somebody's lying like doesn't make eye contact talks too fast Over explains again of
fidgets around, Yeah, he was just doing it, like all the lie
stuff. Corey sees right through it. Corey actually just runs right to Chris
and says, hey, Chris, you won't believe this, but Sebastian is
trying to throw you under the bus for his bullshit. And so now Chris
is just just thinking like, well shit, even the Survivor guys are lying
to get me out of here. So Chris is feeling really, really low
at this point. Jacqueline says, Tim has a lot of faith in Corey.
Do I love Corey? Corey is great, Wolfee. This is the
scene you were talking about. This is where Chris is with Josh West and
Bananas. He has no strategy while he talks to them, He's just basically
begging. He's like, just please vote for a girl, just a girl.
I don't care who just a girl, just a girl. And so
Michelle walks in, Well, he specifically says, like a survivor girl.
If you want a survivor person out, make it, make it a Survivor
girl. It's like, yeah, they're all on the table whatever, just
like man fucking desperate. Yeah, not a good look for Chris here,
and I do like the bad timing of Michelle walking in right at the world's
worst moment. After this, somebody somebody say, we're talking about me.
He's like, no, I was just saying, there's options, there's options,
and if you know they want to go first survivor just maybe a woman,
which Johnny says, Oh, so you're saying any woman. So Michelle's
on the table if we want to throw her, and Chris is just like,
god, fucking just sitting there like yep. Everybody in the room is
sort of poking fun, kind of making little digs. Even fucking Josh is
making fun of Chris at this moment. You should kill yourself if that's happening.
Oh, he's just like he's shrinking into himself. You can see Chris
just getting smaller and smaller. He's just like sinking into himself on this bed.
This poor guy, he's just getting humiliated. He says, he feels
a loan on an island, just like the edge of extinction, which again
reference you guys don't get its edge of extinction like an exile if they have
to go to or Okay, yep. So Chris on his season he was
the third voted out. So he was on this edge of extinction for almost
the whole season, just sort of doing nothing for like thirty days straight.
Oh god, that sounds awful. Yep, sure does. That's awful.
Just sitting on a beach all day. But literally nothing to do, will
be nothing, not you can't even have a my tie or joint, nothing,
just sit there. Weird. Yeah, I'd find something like digging the
sand or some shit like this is nothing. There's nothing chase around a snail.
Yeah, but Michaela is thrilled about this because she just kind of wants
Chris out. She thinks he's causing too much chaos. She's not good,
he's not good for that alliance, and she's ready to just say goodbye.
So what do you guys think? Is that she got a point here?
Is it? Is it better for her game than he go home? Chris
is almost too dangerous at this point if you're aligned with him. He's so
chaotic. Everybody's like, no, yeah, yeah, I think he's just
he's shot himself in the foot multiple times this episode, and there's no there's
no backtracking from all of the damage that he's done. Nope, he's now
going to be a complete wild card, Like cool, you want me to
vote in a Survivor girl, No problem. You want me to vote in
a Survivor guy, I'm the only one, so that's not going to happen.
Like, yeah, I think he's I wouldn't be surprised if he heavily
aligns with the Vets going forward, because I don't think there's any way that
any of the Survivor people are going to be willing to even remotely go near
him. Yeah. I think so too. He's going to be at the
bottom of the totem pull no matter what alliance he finds himself in. Yeah,
and I think I think the rest of the season's gonna be rough for
him. I think he's either gonna have to win the challenge or win an
elimination to stay in this game. And that's kind of what his path ahead
looks like. Yep, all right, we're into the secret vote. I
don't know nothing. We don't really ever see anything here. The only thing
that I thought was interesting is that Sebastian went for Tyler and not Corey,
even though he was pitching Corey all around the house. He decided to vote
with his numbers What the fuck? What is what is Sebastian doing here?
I don't know. I mean, it's it's almost like he didn't want to
make an enemy, but he's already made the enemy. Yeah, so why
not just put Corey in there? Because then there's at least one ball,
like he has the chance of potentially being pulled out. Then like, yep,
why not go for it? Yeah, and then if Corey goes home,
it's like, all right, well the person I targeted went home,
and so who cared like that? Would that would that's sort of his best
case scenario here. Yeah, but he didn't do it. Maybe he thought
if he didn't vote for him, then you know, when it came time
and Corey Corey's name doesn't show up Corey, then we'll be like, oh,
okay, he didn't vote for me. Talking some trash. But maybe
he is not something I need to deal with the next episode. Maybe I
can sort of let it go for a little bit. Yeah, maybe,
But I don't think that would I mean that that might have been what he
was thinking. I'm not sure that that's how it would have worked out.
All right. Well, but that we're into the elimination, Taj goes over
the vote counts, it is six votes for Sebastian, five votes for Tyler,
one vote for Alyssa, and then, weirdly one vote for Bananas.
Who voted for Bananas? I don't know. They didn't actually explain that one.
I so badly wanted this to be I wanted them to just pull a
complete fastball on us and for TJ to pull the single ball out for it
to be Johnny. I wanted it to be completely out of the blue.
I think that would have been I mean, I realized, Johnny, that's
never gonna happen to Johnny because it's just not Production is not gonna let it
happen. But it just I so badly wanted that to happen because it would
have just been absolutely hysterical because they didn't give him any time this episode.
It would have been completely a complete blindsight to literally everyone, including all of
us. I thought that would have been great. They would have been a
fun one. But Chris says he thinks it was FESSI, but FESTI didn't
have a secret vote. He had the public vote. Sorry, Chris,
that's one person that it is definitely not that's right anyway. It's Sebastian.
TJ flush is the toilet. The turd that pops out is Sebastian. So
I want to point out this time that they do the usual shot of the
ball coming out, which is very obviously a blank ball. Yeah, so
something's something they just rain. We shot one day for filler, and then
they cut two after he says his name, cut to a closeup of a
ball coming out with Sebashian's name on it. I'm like, that's not the
same shot. Yeah, And but I'm wondering if there's been so much complaining
about, oh, the balls are blank or whatever when they come out that
someone was like, all right, somebody quick shoot a shot of the Sebastian
ball coming out. We got to edit it into this episode. Yeah,
so people stop complaining. I did not catch that at all. I caught
it, and I had the same weird thought. We'll feel like they haven't
shown this at all this season, so why did they pick this one to
show us the name? Because we don't really care. But anyway, Sebastian
and this elimination is called trick Trick boom, and they dive. They dove
back into their chucky cheese ball stash. Guys, we get another ball challenge.
Very exciting. They're really trying to get all the use out of these
balls this season. They really are. They got a good good deal at
these at the costco. This one, though, is it's kind of cool.
There's like these trash cans with these panels on them. You have to
line them up and then bounce the ball off these panels and into a trash
can. Once you do that, you add two more barrels, this time
they're angled, and you bounce it into another trash can and then whoever does
that wins. Kind of a cool elimination. Did you guys like this sort
of format, this elimination? Yeah, it was all right, Like it's
sort of just a fun trick shot sort of like I think, uh,
I don't remember which one. Maybe a Sebastian says, it's like a TikTok
challenge type thing. Yeah, Sebastian makes sense. Sure, Yeah, I
kind of like kind of wanted something a little bit more physical and endurance based,
like at least last last episode, it was still kind of a puzzle
anyone can do it type of thing, because I feel like they're making all
of these so that men or women can do it regardless of what the game
is. But wonder, I wonder if it's like a CBS bandate. Yeah,
I have a problem. We're getting a Haule brawl soon in this season.
Really, I don't get excited because I saw it in like this season
promo and it looks like they're using the fucking pads that you like hold in
front of you yourself when people are doing martial arts kicks. Yeah, and
that they're doing Hahule brawl with those. Okay, so maybe it is a
CBS thing because Yeah, I mean, I didn't mind this challenge or this
elimination. It was fun to watch. It was fun to see them do
it. I just wanted something that was a little bit more physical and not
necessarily like physical beating up on each other physical, just something that requires more
than just let me move this barrel two inches this way or six inches that
way, yeah, and throw a ball. Yep. I agree with that
too. I just think this was this like showed off a totally different skill
set. Yeah, they're like nobody does this, right, Like in what
world or has anybody ever set up bank shots like this, you know,
in their fun life, you know what I mean? Like TikTokers. Yeah,
this is just one of these like, hey, here's a completely fucking
random thing. Guys, go figure it out. And then we got to
watch them figured it out, and I thought that was kind of fun.
And maybe, I mean, maybe that's part of it as well, as
they're trying to appeal to a younger audience and to a different audience and putting
something in there that's similar to the TikTok trick shot stuff and all that that
this might have the chance of going viral or something of that sort. Yeah,
quit ruining my challenge, CBS. I liked it, So CBS continue
to ruin my challenge. Fucking millennials. I'm not a millennial, although I'm
close. I'm closer than you will be way younger. It's way younger than
you. Whatever. Boomer, that's right, I'm a boomer. Uh well,
I don't know. There's not much to say. It's just a bunch
of watching balls bounce. Athos was porn. Yeah, MICHAELA is making fun
of Chris's approach. She says it's too scientific. He's like testing in the
air direction of where it's coming from. He's bouncing the balls and see how
they bounce. She's kind of making fun of it and dismissing it. But
isn't that the smart way to play this game? Isn't that what he should
be doing? Yeah? Yeah, but he and Sebashion seemed to I mean,
I'd take the back. They didn't get through it, and they didn't
get the first half in the same amount of time. He did get it
faster than Sebastians, So yeah, there's a good chance. Yeah. I
mean, both both rounds he won, you know, he won them.
So it's like it's hard to argue with with success. So Michaela, who
earlier in the episode said she's always right to me, it's like Michaela,
where you're right here, because maybe he shouldn't make fun of the guy that
one. West says he's rooting for Chris to come back because Chris could be
a number for him because he's an island and to himself, now, he's
going to be an easy one to recruit. But like I said, he's
going to be at the bottom of whatever totem pull he's at, and so
really, but West doesn't care if he's at the bottom. You need someone
at the bottom so that he doesn't end up at the bottom. No,
that's true. But for Chris, does it matter if you're at the bottom
of an alliance or if you're just on your own? To me, it
seems kind of the same either way. I mean, at least with an
alliance you can count on a few people trying to help you out and not
vote you in. If there are more people, if you're trying to get
someone from another alliance out, yeah, well maybe I guess we'll see.
Well, any Chris winns, guys, yeah, it exploded the thing.
Should be interested to see what happens next week. Yeah, he's got to
come in and be like, hey, everybody, remember all the chaos I
said last last episode. Yep, sorry, I've also got a note made.
I made a point about it last week that when Monty was leaving,
TJ said in a very like sincere ways that you are awesome, and it
caught me. Really, it was weird, TJ said. TJ said,
it's to Sebastian too, but it was a lot more flippant. It was
a lot more like, hey, hope, I see again, you're awesome.
Let's see more TJ appropriate. So he did say he called them both
awesome, But I think his inflection with Monty was weird and off putting.
And that's it. That's the end. Yep, no more Sebastian lost for
love interest. I'm so sad. I'm so sad. Oh you know what?
We should have cued up the Bye Bye Little Sebastian song, Year five
Candles, Year, five thousand candles in the wind. If only I was
a better singer, Carl And how's your voice? Can you sing it for
us? Oh? God, no, I don't. I also don't remember
any of blinds in that song. It's bye bye Little Sebastian. That's I
guess. That's all I know too, Yeah, that's all. That's all.
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Zack's absence. No bananas was was in this episode for about four seconds.
He made no impression on me at all. He didn't do anything of any
note at all. Yep, that's it. Before we sign off, I
apologize again to all of the listeners for the ridiculous audio from my end.
End to you too. Next time, be dedicated. Don't I am being
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not here? Uh? Somebody if that I'm friends with on Facebook who I
don't think I've ever met in real life, probably through podcasts or something.
I don't know. Most of this big long thing about how his wife watches
a stupid show called The Challenge full of like former reality people who are still
buying for Internet clout so they could go back on the show between bookings of
opening bars or whatever. So just really ran the show down, to which
then I replied, Hey, you can tell your wife. I run a
podcast called Challenged all about the Challenge, to which then he gave a crying
emoji. Oh you disappointed him. That's all right, yeah, fuck that
guy. All right. Well, I guess that's it for this episode of
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the Other Seat. This week the Other Seat is sorry. This week's quote
comes from Corey, who actually quoted one of the one of our greatest poets
of the twentieth century. He quoted from Frederick Allen Main the Third. He
said. It's some he said, she said bullshit sh sh sh