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Bill cunning in the Great American of
course. Yes, yes, last night

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you had a great victory for the
Trumpster from New Hampshire. Now it's onto

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that South Carolina primary, which is
going to I'm sure win by thirty points

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over Haley. But nonetheless, in
the state of Ohio, there's about nine,

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maybe seven or eight other states that
have no state income tax, and

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states that don't have a state income
tax, like Tennessee, Texas and Nevada

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and Florida tend to do very well
economically and they rely upon the sales tax

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in order to generate a whole bunch
of their state to income to run state

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government. Representative Adam Matthews of Warren
County as a proposal to eliminate the state

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income tax in the state of Ohio. Representative Adam Matthews, welcome again to

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the Bill Cunningham Show. And can
you explain to the American people, Representative

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why this is a good idea?
How much will it save the average American

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family? When will it happen?
So let's talk about state income tax.

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Why do you want to eliminate it? Ohio has been cutting income taxes for

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decades now. The income tax was
first implemented in Ohio in nineteen seventy one,

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and every single time that we've had
a census after that, we have

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lost relative representation in Congress. We've
lost population compared to other states. And

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as you mentioned, states like Tennessee, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, they're

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doing a lot better than us by
having a better tax system. And I

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was able to run House Bill one, which provided the foundation for the two

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point two billion dollar income tax cut
that we had in this last budget and

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got us almost to a flat tax
rate. And now we have the end

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in sight, working with other local
senators like Senator George Lang and Senator Huffman

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and Rep. Lampton to by twenty
thirty get to zero percent income tax and

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join those other states so that Ohio
can reclaim its role as the economic engine

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of the Midwest. Now, Adam, how much money just in rough dollars,

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I won't hold you to a specific
number. How much money does the

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state income tax generate? Every year? About how much? Looks the modeling

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that we're having, we're thinking about
eight billion dollars. How do you substitute

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where do you get that eight billion
dollars from? Then, assuming get rid

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of that income tax. Where does
the eight billion come from every year?

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Part of it is going to have
to be right. Sizing government. Our

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budgets in the twenty teams, we're
in the sixty billion dollar range. Just

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last budget in twenty twenty was eighty
billion dollars. In this budget was eighty

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six billion dollars. So we continue
to have an increase of spending. And

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if we just hold steady, you
look at sales tax revenue, not even

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increasing the sales tax rate over the
last six years from twenty seventeen until twenty

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thirteen, get an increased revenue of
three billion dollars. So just holding study

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allowing the economic growth that we're seeing
to keep pace well, not growing government.

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It's just a lot of the way
there. At the same time,

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Ohio is sitting on the Utica shale, on natural gas, so that we

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can follow the model put forward by
Texas, Oklahoma, South Dakota of unleashing

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the energy that's right beneath our feet, so that we can have that type

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of prosperity that Ohioans have come to
expect. And I'm told that the reserves

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of the shale deposits would provide eighty
to one hundred more years. It isn't

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as if, okay, we only
have the shale for the next couple of

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years. We're talking eighty to one
hundred years, and by that point they're

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going to find delithium crystal somewhere in
Star Trek, and somehow we're going to

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have the lithium crystals or cold nuclear
fusion. But to get to that point,

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we've got to exploit the natural resources
under our feet given to us by

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God. Do you have wide support
for this from other reps and senators and

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from Governor Mike DeWine. Do they
look at you, Askance Adam Matthews,

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so, do they nod their head
that you're onto something. Of course,

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there's going to be some politicians that
want to continue to spend our hardwar and

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tax dollars. But since we had
our press release yesterday in Columbus at ten

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in the morning, and then came
back home to southwest Ohio and had a

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town hall, and since in Mason, my phone has been blown up with

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other representatives, other senators around the
state, some statewides that are very excited

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about moving to this next chapter,
getting to the end point of having zero

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percent income tax and providing making sure
that all of us, our families,

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our businesses can better balance our budgets, especially in this time of inflation.

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As far as as far as economic
activity. The states you mentioned Tennessee,

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Florida, Oklahoma not so much but
are kind of like warm weather ports.

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Oklahoma certainly can be, but basically
it's a Midwest state. Do you anticipate

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there'll be more Americans staying and moving
into Ohio without a state income tax?

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Absolutely, and one of those.
South Dakota is definitely. South Dakota is

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not a warm weather state and has
been doing much better by becoming more business

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friendly and looking at controls. You
have just neighboring to us, We have

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Indiana, who has ranked much more
business friendly on a tax system on how

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complex your taxes are, and they
have about the same weather we do.

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If you want to know what a
weather in Ohio it's going to be,

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look at Indiana an hour an hour
ago, and they're doing better. You

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look in a similar way Arizona,
New Mexico have very similar weather. Arizona

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has been cutting their taxes, making
sure governments the right size. New Mexico

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hasn't, and we see that zone
is growing much better than New Mexico is

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so we know that there's whether it's
King's Island, whether it's the western southern

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Cincinnati Open, whether it's the families
that we've grown here. People want to

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live in Ohio and we have to
stop taxing them and encouraging them to leave.

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My email inbox at the State House
has been receiving multiple emails from people

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that have moved to Georgia to Florida
and saying, you can cut these taxes.

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I'd love to come back and be
with my grandkids. To be able

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to be here, I'd love to
move my business back and hire more good

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Ohioans here, and that's what we're
moving towards. So the plan is by

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twenty thirty. I think Kentucky had
a similar but then the revenues of the

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state were not as great as they
could be. If we had a president

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in Washington who wanted to exploit the
natural resources that are available in shale and

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throughout Ohio, we'd be in much
better shape. But at this point,

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we'll see what happens in November now. Secondly, about marijuana, there are

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some in the House catching flak for
not going along with the Senate when it

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comes to using the present medical marijuana
system to sell adult recreational use. What

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is your position if any unrecreational pot
and why has it taken so long to

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implement the will of the people.
So we had the vote of issue too.

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I think there's a lot of things
that still need to be dealt with.

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One of the things the vote wanted
home grow. However, the way

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that it was written said that you
can parcel out pieces of property. If

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you have a one acre lot,
you could parcel it out to one hundred

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little pieces and get ninety nine friends
to say that you're growing their marijuana.

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And now you have six hundred plants
on your one piece of property. That

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doesn't sound like personal homegrowth to me. And so we're going to that sounds

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like industrialization, and we're going to
have really good discussions on how do we

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listen to the will of the people, but do it in a way that

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has the type of safeguards that our
families expect of us. Because what we

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got from the voters was a right
line of yes or no, and we

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got to make sure that we take
the responsibility well to make sure that there

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aren't unintended consequences down the road.
Adam Matthews, what's the timeline on this

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thing? Here we are at the
end of January, and to anticipate what

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month will this be implemented because many
are waiting to do what has to be

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done. I know Bill Sites had
them on repeatedly, and the way the

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way the statutory framework worked on state
issue too, that someone in their home

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could grow enough pot to supply about
thirty five thousand joints. And I don't

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think the intent was to let somebody
have thirty five thousand joints. I'm not

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sure that's for personal use in one
year. I tend to think they'll be

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giving out to other people or profiting
from that. Can you give the American

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people some idea the month when there's
going to be the proper regulations and law

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and effect and we can move forward
on this thing. I would love to

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get back to work. I'm both
in Columbus and then doing my day job

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as an intellectual property attorney. Every
day when we have session, when the

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Senate comes and gets things done,
we're ready to go. So you anticipate.

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And lastly, the Senate's putting together
their veto of the Governor's transgender rights

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building Ohio would be the second state
in the Union to do this. Kind

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of tell us your vote on that
issue and why it turned out the right

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way from your perspective. I was
a co sponsor of the safe sect which

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prevents minors from going under hormone therapy, puberty blockers, and really mutilation of

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their bodies. And for the same
reason that we don't allow miners to get

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tattoos, we don't allow miners to
get breast modifications in plastic surgery. We

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were able to pass this with a
veto proofs majority. The governor came through

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and vetoed it as well, and
I am so grateful that the House could

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lead the way in overriding his veto. We need to stand with families against

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this type of medical adventurism and protect
people that are in difficult situations. We

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know these children are going through hard
times, but what we need to do

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is to be able to walk with
them in a similar way that when we

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had the antirexia crisis of the nineteen
nineties and early two thousands, we did

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not then say, yes, you
have a weight problem. We said,

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how do we get you to confront
the reality? How do we love you

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in a good way instead of prescribing
them appetite suppressants and liposuction. And I

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am really excited for the Senate to
join us and follow our lead in overriding

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the government's detail. All right,
we got to run Representative Adam Matthews of

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Warren County area. Thanks for coming
on. We'd lawyers that must stick together.

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As far as the state and income
tax. Are you optimistic this is

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going to pass or not? I
am incredibly optimistic. We have a powerhouse

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team with Senator Huffman Center laying and
Ret Lambton of putting this in the framework

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to get rid of the income tax
by twenty thirty good and that will encourage

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more people to stay in Ohio and
more people to move into Ohio. And

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you're confident that you can substitute the
eight billion dollars a year through other means

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and methods, and we'll see what
happens. But when you gave me those

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numbers about the growth of Ohio state
government under Republicans, is that mainly driven

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by medicaid by large numbers of individuals
living here that didn't pay in the system.

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What is the main driver? Every
year it goes up as seemingly five

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to ten percent, and you can't
stop it from going up. What's the

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driver of that budget? We are
able to find a way to balance our

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budget without even looking at medicaid.
If we're doing medicaid cuts because of the

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federal match, every cut that we
do from the state budget, it's only

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thirty three cents to try to offset
the income tax. So our way to

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balance the income text doesn't mess with
medicaid, doesn't mess with K twelve,

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but does on that type of other
types of discretionary spending that the state continues

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to use, whether that is leasing
buildings in Columbus for our departments when we

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have empty office space up here,
or allowing sales tax exemptions on publishers for

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using sweepstakes rules. Those things we
need to always have a fine tooth come

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when we're looking through the budget because
we are stewards of taxpayer dollars. But

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now when we have a goal of
getting rid of the income tax in twenty

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thirty, instead of it being a
nice to have, we can be mission

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focused on eliminating wasteful spending. You
know, I saw on squat box this

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morning that New York City has one
hundred million square feet of empty office space

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one hundred million square feet. I'm
sure Columbus Cincinnati has lots of empty office

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space. The world is changing and
so many people must be incentivized to locate

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into Ohio stay in Ohio. And
for high income Americans to not devastate income

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tax would be a big deal.
So many of us would encourage you on

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this route. Representative Adam Matthews of
Warren County, once again, thank you

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for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Good luck in godspeed, and thank

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you Representative Adam Matthews, thank you, thank you, God blessed. All

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right, let's continue with more thank
you coming up later, we'll be with

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scheduled Kevin Jackson of the Black Sphere
to talk about the urban areas. He

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has a great posting on that topic
of about how Democrats, especially black male

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Democrats, are going to vote for
Donald Trump this time because the Democratic Party

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has failed them miserably and so much
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end Checked Forest, little Red Riding
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is for losers? What do you
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I listen to Eddie and Rocky.
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ran The Wolf's right behind you.
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Place. But why does this girl
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