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The Dodgers are in Philadelphia getting set
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All Star Break. They will start
with three games in Philadelphia starting tomorrow night.

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seven two five seventy is the phone
number we will get to trade talk.

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Mind numbing trade talk. Bob Nightingale
was on with Money and Don McClain.

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As I mentioned to them, he
stole my thunder about former Dodger Nathan Avaldi.

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I mean you could read that with
Brail Uh. If the Rangers are

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selling, Nathan Avaldi would be at
the top of the list of not only

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the Dodgers, but every other team
in Major League Baseball that is trying to

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contend and win in the playoffs,
So we'll get to that. And also

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there may be an impact bat nobody
is talking about in connection with the Dodgers.

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Also, we will get to the
All Star snubs. I feel like

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a few players were snubbed for the
All Star Game, so we'll get to

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that. And also right now,
my guy ta Oscar Hernandez is being snubbed

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for the home run Derby, So
we'll get to all that later in the

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show, and possibly a special guest
calling in between now and eight o'clock.

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Eight six six nine, eight seven
two five seventy is the phone number before

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we get to all that, and
before we go forward, we have to

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look back on a home stand that
left you wanting more, wanted more against

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the Diamondbacks. Instead, Christian Walker
just continue to dominate the Dodgers, and

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they lost two out of three to
Arizona. The Dodgers now have a losing

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record against Arizona in San Diego in
their division this season, not a coincidence

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with them sweeping the Dodgers last year
in Arizona and the Dodgers falling to the

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Padres the year before and four games. The bigger question is for the Dodgers.

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Do the Diamondbacks and Padres have the
game plan on how to beat the

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Dodgers since they play them thirteen times
in a season, and if you go

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back to a couple of years ago
when the Padres beat the Dodgers in the

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NLDS, they played each other nineteen
times, So you would have to imagine

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the Diamondbacks and Padres, who also
have a front office, who also have

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a manager, also have an analytics
department. They're taking notes and maybe they

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have the Dodgers' number, considering they're
the two teams in the division that have

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a winning record against the Dodgers.
And that's why if the Dodgers are in

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the postseason, you do not want
to see the Padres or Diamondbacks because they

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seem to know how you pitch them. They know how to pitch you,

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and those are the two teams that
have knocked you out of the postseason unceremoniously

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the last two years. So don't
discount or just push aside the fact that

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the Diamondbacks swept the Dodgers last year. They gave them fits last regular season

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as well, and already this season
they have beaten the Dodgers more than the

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Dodgers have beat them. Same with
the Padres. The Dodgers have lost five

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of eight against Arizona or San Diego
this year, so definitely something to keep

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your eye on. And will Smith
certainly helped the Dodgers have a five hundred

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homestand after Christian Walker left town,
will Smith must have saved one of his

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bats because he hit three home runs
on Friday night, was on base all

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five times, and then in his
first at bat on Saturday afternoon he homereed

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as well. So four home runs
and four at bats for will Smith,

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and yesterday I felt like the Dodgers
had things in their favor to sweep Milwaukee.

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No, not because they had Justin
Robleski on the mound, but because

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the Brewers were throwing out journeyman Dallas
Kikeel, who was signed to a minor

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league deal by the Mariners and traded
to the Brewers a couple of weeks ago,

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and the Dodgers let Kikel off the
hook a few different times. That

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was disappointing. They could not get
young just Robleski some runs in his first

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major league start. And what was
going on with Reys Hoskins yesterday getting upset

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at Johann Santana hitting him in the
sixth inning. Did he believe that Johan

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Santana was trying to hit him?
I mean, has he watched Johann Santana.

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His pitches moved quite a bit.
He's gotten a lot better, but

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the pitches move a lot and Johann
Johann Ramirez, I should say, Johann

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Ramirez was not trying to hit him. And after the inning was over and

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Hoskins ended up the inning at third
base, I was watching Johann Ramirez try

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to apologize once again to Hoskins,
and Hoskins basically was soch a poor sportsman

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that he went around and avoided Ramirez
so Ramirez could not say I'm sorry one

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more time. Johann Ramirez one of
the greatest people you'll ever meet. I

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mean, that guy's got a heart
of gold. He loves being in the

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big leagues. He doesn't take it
for granted. And by no means was

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he trying to hit Hoskins on purpose. So I don't know what's going on

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with Hoskins. Maybe he was upset
that he has to go back to Milwaukee

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for his home games, but that
was ridiculous. Going back to Justin Robleski,

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I had gotten a text from his
Triple A manager, Travis Barbery,

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yesterday morning, and I asked Travis, Hey, what stood out to you

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the most about Robleski And he wrote
back that he's very prepared and detailed and

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how he goes about his process of
getting ready for every start. He pays

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very close attention to opposing hitters in
the days he's not pitching. And you

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may say, how did he do
that against the Brewers, Well, Robleski

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knew he was going to start on
Sunday. He was in Los Angeles on

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Saturday, so I'm sure he was
watching the game that was nationally televised on

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Saturday afternoon and took some notes,
not to mention, when you come to

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the big leagues, there's a lot
more scattering reports and detailed reports on hitters

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tendencies than there is at Triple A. So I'm sure he was going all

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through that considering what his manager at
Triple A, Travis Barbery, said about

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him. And here was Justin Robleski
after yesterday's game, after making his major

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league debut. Justin obviously major league
debuts are always exciting. How did you

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control your emotions to start the game? Yeah, I felt good. It

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was just kind of a matter of
being grateful for the moment and just kind

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of that's kind of the big theme
is I was kind of on the way

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over here today, it's just like
I'm really thankful for the opportunity, and

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you know, at this point,
like you're already here, like, let's

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just do it. And I got
a lot of fun. I was.

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I felt pretty comfortable out there,
so I think I didn't think I was

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gonna I thought I was gonna be
pretty nervous, but I was just kind

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of, I don't know, like
any other game. I felt normal,

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felt like I belonged. So it
was a lot of fun. Yeah.

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So I had been told earlier this
week that there was a chance, and

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then kind of the past couple of
days have been crazy trying to figure it

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out. And I get a call, you know, midnight two days ago

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or whatever telling me like, you're
gonna come over here, you still may

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not pitch, And then end up
getting the call last night when I was

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at dinner that that I'm going to
start today, and I was just super

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excited and happy, and you know, obviously debut today. So where were

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you eating? Chipotle? Garhouse?
Yeah, yardhouse. Yeah, a long

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week. We got back in from
from Vegas earlier this week at like four

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am on Wednesday or Thursday or whatever
it was, and play a couple of

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games and then obviously this all happened. So what was it like to be

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in the same dugout with Clayton Khrushaw, who I know was your favorite player

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to him kind of encourage you when
you came back to the dugout. Yeah,

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it's it's obviously really cool. You
know, a guy like him who's

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been in the game for so long, obviously legend. It's really cool,

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really really cool. All right,
there's Justin Robleski, who certainly was for

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his opportunity to make his major league
debut. Unfortunately it comes in a loss.

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He was charged with four runs and
the Dodgers fall to the Brewers nine

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to two, and coming into the
game yesterday, the Dodgers really owned the

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Brewers, especially at Dodgers Stadium.
They had only lost once to Milwaukee in

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the last fifteen games coming into yesterday, but the Brewers were able to salvage

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the final game of the series and
look I had said this coming into the

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series, the Dodgers needed to separate
themselves from the Brewers because with this new

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playoff format, it's important to get
one of the first two seeds as a

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division winner because you get a first
round by and you can line up your

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pitching for the nlds when you're playing
in a best of three series, even

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as the home team as a division
winner, that's not ideal. And coming

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into the series, the Dodgers were
only one game ahead of Milwaukee for the

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number two seed in the National League
postseason picture. So winning two out of

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three gave the Dodgers a little breathing
room. And everybody keeps asking Brewers,

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broadcasters and anybody around their team,
how are you winning with this pitching staff?

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And they're finding a way. Whether
or not it lasts in the second

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half still remains to be seen.
But the Dodgers go from playing one division

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winner to another division winner or division
leader in the National League, and from

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the Brewers to the Phillies in Philadelphia. And I know everybody's hyping up this

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series, and it's a big series. It's an exciting series, Marquis series,

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no doubt about it. But let's
not forget. The Phillies do come

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to Dodgers Stadium the second week of
August. So this is only as big

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as right now. When the Phillies
come to LA it will be just as

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hyped as this one is. But
this one is lacking, you know,

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the it's lacking. It's lacking Mookie
bed it's lacking Max Munsey, it's lacking

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Yoshi Yamamoto. It's lacking currently Bryce
Harper, JT. Realmudo and Kyle Schwarber.

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Those three Phillies could be activated tomorrow
or sometime during the series, So

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we'll see whether or not that happens
or not. But I firmly believe these

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are the two teams you will see
in the NLCS. Dodgers Phillies get ready

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for a showdown from eighth nine,
from seventy seven, seventy eight. It

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feels like it's going to be Dodgers
Phillies again in the NLCS. Eight six

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six nine eight seven two five seventy
is the phone number when we continue here

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on off day Dodger Talk, we'll
take your phone calls. We got two

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lines open, and also we'll get
into my numbing trade talk. Who do

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you want to see on July thirtieth, be traded to the Dodgers. I

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have a few ideas myself. We'll
talk about it next right here on a

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five to seventy LA Sports off Day
Dodger Talk. We have phone lines open

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at eight six six nine eight seven
two five seventy. The Dodgers are in

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Philadelphia getting set to open up a
three game series against the Phillies, and

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then from there they will go to
Detroit before the All Star break. When

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the All Star break is over with, the Dodgers will resume the ceremonial second

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half against the Boston Red Sox.
So that should be fun. Kenley Janssen

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coming back to Dodgers Stadium for the
second time since leaving the Dodgers, and

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for the second time in a different
uniform, this time with the Boston Red

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Sox. Remember a couple of years
ago, the last time Kenley was at

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Dodger Stadium, it was as an
Atlanta Brave. Eight six six nine eight

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seven two five seventy is the phone
number. How much stock are you putting

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into this Dodger Philly series? Are
you? You feel like he carries more

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weight than I do? Because look, even if the Dodgers swept the Phillies

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in this series. Let's say all
goes perfectly, the Dodgers shock Philadelphia,

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go in there and sweep them.
Does it really matter in October? Does

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it even matter in the second week
of August when Philadelphia comes to Dodgers Stadium.

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I'm not sure what this series proves, especially with no Mookie Bets,

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no Max Muncy, no Yoshi Yamamoto, and also the possibility of any one

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of the Phillies injured players in real
Muto, Harper or Schwarber not playing,

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not to mention, both of these
teams may look a lot different when the

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Phillies come to LA after the July
thirtieth trade deadline. So that's how I

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feel about this series. It's going
to be a fun series. We're gonna

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get passionate those Philly people. It's
hot, it's humid back there. They're

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angry, they're not feeling great.
Well. It's going to be a very,

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very hostile environment for the Dodgers these
next three games, and I'm interested

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to see how not only Bobby Miller
reacts, but also Gavin Stone in the

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second game of this series. Let's
go out to the phone lines before we

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get to more nine, mind numbing
trade talk, Tony and Whittier. You're

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on Dodger Talk with David Vasse.
How you doing, Tony? Good Dave.

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How's it going tonight? Oh?
It's going great. First of all,

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I just want to ask you a
quick question. With all the trade

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talks going on, who's going to
be included in what trade? I mean,

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I know the Dodgers are loaded with
on the farm, but who do

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you think is realistically going to be
part of any package, any trade you

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know come July thirtieth. Well,
I don't know the names, Tony,

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but if you're talking about getting a
Garrett Crochet or a Nathan Valdi, you're

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talking about blue chip pitching. We're
talking about maybe a Landing Knack, maybe

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a Justin Robleski. Diego Kartaya definitely
is a name that teams have called about

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in the past, maybe even a
Miguel Vargas, Tony. That's something you

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all should brace yourself for. Yeah. I mean, to get a player

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like Garrett Crochet who's not a rental, you're gonna have to give up a

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lot, right right? Yeah,
that's what I was That crossed my mind.

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But I just want to hear it
from you because I know you know

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more than we do, so but
I appreciate you taking my call. Thanks

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a lot, All right, Tony, thanks for the phone call. Look,

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at this time of year, Andrew
Friedman is really not tipping his hand

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too much, and if he does, he's doing it for a purpose.

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He wants misinformation out there day one. I was there when he was hired,

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and he is not opposed to misinformation
because that creates chaos and sometimes plays

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in the Dodgers' hands. So he
plays it very close to the vest and

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is not really talkative around this time
a year leading up to the July thirtieth

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trade deadline. But look, there's
no secret the Dodgers need a starting pitcher.

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They need a starting pitcher that can
pitch a playoff game and come up

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big, and Garrett Crochet is certainly
the number one name that's out there.

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Interesting enough, when I saw that
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games back of the Astros, when
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and also eight and a half games
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it made me wonder would the Rangers
sell off certain pieces knowing that they don't

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really have a chance knowing that their
owner has not really opened up the purse

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as much as he has the last
two off seasons. I mean, the

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Rangers, they were pretty much inactive
this offseason. They're now forty two and

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forty eight, six games back of
the Astra or the Mariners in the AL

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West, and they have to leap
frog the red hot Astros. So now

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all of a sudden, are forty
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of Seattle in the AL West.
I fully expect the Astros to win that

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division. And if you look at
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the Rangers are seven and a half
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closer to the Wildcard than the Texas
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And then when you see a guy
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that yes, the Rangers are considering
selling. And when they say sell,

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they're talking about not Corey Seeger,
not Marcus Simeon. They're talking about pitchers

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like Mac Scherzer. They're talking about
a pitcher like former Dodger Nathan Valdi,

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who's a two time World Series champion. And when I bring that up,

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it's not like he was just along
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the biggest reasons why the Red Sox
won in twenty eighteen and also one of

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the biggest reasons why the Rangers won
last year. If Nathan Evaldi is available,

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I would venture to say I take
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that sounds crazy, hear me out. Number one, you probably would not

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have to give up as much for
Avaldi because not too many teams can take

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on his contract for the rest of
this year and next year. He is

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going to hit the innings that is
required for his contract to kick in for

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twenty million dollars next year. Nathan
Evaldi is a great guy. Number One.

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He's an ultimate competitor. He is
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and you wouldn't have to give up
the farm for Nathan Avaldi. Now,

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you would have to give up something
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it would not empty the system of
Blue Chippers that it would take to get

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Garrett Crochet. If I had to
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taking the veteran. Veterans win championships. Those are the guys that will carry

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you. Garrett Croche is awesome in
Chicago, he was fearless against the Dodgers

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in Chicago. But Nathan Evaldi has
been to the mountaintop and people know him

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in the organization. You're trying to
tell me. Ron Rennicky, a special

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assistant to Andrew Freeman, is not
saying, get this guy. You're telling

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me if Andrew Freeman talks to Mookie
Betts, who, by the way,

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I saw them taking a long walk
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me Mookie Betts is saying, Nah, Nathan Avaldi, We're good. No,

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Mookie Betts is telling Andrew Friedman,
if you can get Nathan Evaldi,

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get him. Nathan Evaldi is the
guy. And with this news that Max

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Munsey now is going to be out
longer than right after the All Star break,

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Dave Roberts saying he's had a setback. Here's a name that nobody talks

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about. Why would you rule out
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Yes, that's the blue Jay to
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impact bat, make it Vladimir Guerrero
Junior, not Bo Bashet. With this

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news about Max Munsey, and you
may say, where's Vladimir Guerrero Junior going

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to play third base. That's where
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about when Munsey comes back, Well, let's cross that bridge when we get

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there. So far, he's not
coming back. They've been waiting. He

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hasn't come back. And you may
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a free agent after next year and
he's going to get a big contract.

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Yeah he is. Remember what happened
when Corey Seger went down with a broken

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hand, Andrew Freeman pulled off a
big trade for Max Scherzer and also Trey

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Turner, knowing full well it was
a long shot to keep Trey Turner.

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Knowing full well, we probably won't
keep Trey Turner, but we need him

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right now and we can move him
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Vladimir Guerrero Junior is in the same
spot. The Dodgers are in the same

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spot. Vladimir Guerrero Junior is the
blue Jay the Dodgers need to go after

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with this news of Max Munsey being
out longer than anticipated. Eight six six

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nine eight seven two five seventy is
the phone number. Yeah, I know,

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I just blew your mind. Take
a second before you dial, let's

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go out to him. Glenn.
You're on Dodger Talk with David Vasse.

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How you doing, Glenn? Thanks, you're taking my call. David.

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I wanted to ask you two things. One about course, uh, what's

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his era and his record? And
what dog uggs are coming back after the

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All Star Game and win? Okay, well, I'll try to answer that

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as best as I can. Number
One, Mookie Betts is coming back after

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the All Star Game. We thought
Max Munsey was coming back after the All

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Star Game, but all of a
sudden, now Dave Roberts said he's had

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a sent back, so I guess
we can't count on Max Munsey coming back

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right away. That's why I'm a
big believer that the Dodgers should inquire about

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Vladimir Guerrero Junior. And he may
say he hasn't played third base in a

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while, he's been moved to first
base. I know we hear about the

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Dodgers talking about defense, but really
it feels like defense is secondary with some

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of the positions we've seen them put
their players at. I mean, come

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on, we saw them put Gavin
Lux in center field. We saw them

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try Jock Peterson at first base.
Max Munsey has had to learn third base

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on the fly, and Garrett Crochet
is six and six this year with an

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ERA of three zero eight. He
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He's thrown one hundred and five innings
so far this year, which brings up

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another concern for teams out there inquiring
about Crochet. He's coming off Tommy John

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surgery from a couple of years ago, and his innings Max has been fifty

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four and a third before the injury, So many are wondering, well,

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what does that mean? Does that
mean that Garrett Crochet only has like fifty

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innings left to pitch? I wouldn't
say that. And whoever's trying to acquire

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Crochet is not only acquiring him for
this year, but for the next two

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years. That's why the price is
going to be really high. You're not

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getting Crochet just for this year,
You're getting him for the next two years.

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That's part of this equation. And
look, if the Dodgers or the

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Orioles or any other playoff team acquire
Garrett Crochet, they're going into it fully

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aware of the fact that right now
he has thrown more innings than he ever

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has before, and the Dodgers are
probably in the best position of any team

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out there to manage his innings the
rest of this regular season to be ready

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for the postseason. And if you
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now you have three pitchers that will
be pitching more innings than they ever have

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in their careers. That would be
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And that's why I'm all in with
Nathan Ivaldi. I know he's coming

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off his second Tommy John surgery,
but this guy works tirelessly to be big,

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to be strong, to be physical, and he's seeing him. I

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mean, I haven't seen him probably
since the eighteen World Series, and standing

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in front of him, the size
of Nathan Valdi was incredibly impressive, and

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it makes a lot of sense why
he is the poster child for coming back

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from a second Tommy John surgery.
He's not frail, his shoulders are huge,

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his body is big, physical,
his hands are humongous. This guy

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spends all his time in the weight
room. I would say, from what

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people were telling me, with the
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if you're looking for a Valdi,
he's in one or two places, the

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weight room or the bullpen. That's
what type of player he is. Eight

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six six nine eighty seven two five
seventy is the phone number. So all

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of a sudden we were talking Crochet
and Randia Rose Arena. Now with this

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news coming out that the Rangers may
indeed be very practical about their season and

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listen to offers for Nathan Valdi,
I'm all in to bring Nate a Valdi

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home. Let's go out to Fresno. Jeff, you're on Dodger Talk,

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Hi, Jeff, Hi David,
how are you? I completely agree one

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thousand percent with Crochet. This is
the longest he's ever gone. He's being

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stretched out as a former reliever,
and we have enough of those on the

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Dodgers, and he's the bright,
shiny flavor of the month. And a

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veteran like a Baldi or or someone
else is exactly what the Dodgers need.

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And third base, yes, obviously
the place we need to focus on with

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the infield. I remember Rick said
the other day that the Dodgers collectively are

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hitting right around or under two hundred
at third base. So those are the

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glaring needs. And yeah, I'm
I'm one of those few that's like,

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please don't get Crochet because I just
see him ending up on the aisle in

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August and then we're gonna lose three
or four good prospects. And look,

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Jeff, if you need a third
baseman and you feel like you can get

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Nata Valdi and Vladimir Guerrero Junior,
which you know what, I'm not sure

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the Blue going to trade vlad Junior. But let's say you put together a

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package for Vladimir Guerrero Junior that may
have been part of a Crochet deal,

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then you don't have to give up
as much for Nathan Evaldi because you know

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he's only under contract for one more
year, He's coming off a second Tommy

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John surgery. All these things would
lessen the trade value for a guy like

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NATEA. Valdi. But if you're
the Dodgers, you want Nathan Evaldi.

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And I could tell you this,
The Dodgers were considering signing a Valdi before

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last year. And there were a
lot of former Red Sox on the Dodgers

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last year that were teammates with Evaldi
that were trying to implore Andrew Freeman to

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sign Avaldi. And I'm sure that
has remained consistent after what they saw last

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year. Yeah, can I make
one more point? This is about the

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Philly Series. Yeah, I agree
that that championships aren't won in July series,

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but I think it's really important for
our young hitters, you know,

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Andy Pajez and and those to see
you get their first look at Wheeler and

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Nola and I don't know if Suarez
is pitching, but they need to see

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these guys. Obviously, they're gonna
hopefully see him twice, so if nothing

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else, they're gonna get some abs
against these guys. Hey, great point.

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At least you'll get a look at
him, but they'll also get a

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look at them the second week of
August when the Phillies are in LA.

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So yeah, you're you're trying to
get a scout and report not just from

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the data but also with your eyes
and your experience. So all of that

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is great. Thanks for the phone
call, Jeff, appreciate it. Hey,

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speaking of the young guys, how
about James Autman, who got a

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great ovation when he was introduced in
the starting lineup on Saturday, and then

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he delivered with two hits, and
yesterday he came up with a hard hit

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base hit to right field in the
ninth inning as a pinch hitter. So

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just my observations looking at James Outman, he looks like a guy that has

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had a lot of weight lifted off
his shoulders and he is going to join

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us on the pregame show the second
game of the series in Philadelphia. He

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just seems to be mentally a lot
clearer and his swing seems to be a

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lot more fluid from what I've seen. Let's take one more phone call before

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we take our final time out.
Let's go out to Claremont. Danny,

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You're on Dodger Talk. Hi,
Danny, Hey Dave, how's it going

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today? Man? I think I
was happy to hear you mentioned Evaldi.

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That guy would be a huge pickup
for them. He's very proven pitcher,

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especially in big games like that,
so that gotta be a huge pickup,

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and especially to have him come back
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that's why you see these teams wait
so long to make moves because you never

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know you know who's going to be
available or what a team situation might be,

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and you might be surprised over who
could become available. Even in the

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coming weeks. There might be names
we're not quite aware of. But I

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think Evaldi I'd be a big one
to get. I'm not sure about vlad

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I think that one might be a
little more far fetched. And as the

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player we want, you know,
he's been really a struggling player the last

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few years. You know he's gonna
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mean Max has already over there,
and he's gonna he's gonna be reunited with

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Dino Ebel, who was very close
to his dad. Dino Ebel will make

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him work. The accountability of this
clubhouse will make him work and get better.

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And let's be honest, the Dodgers
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base, who has been you know, the data says an average third baseman.

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I'm sure Vladimir Guerrero Junior can become
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This this has Trey Turner. This
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Just like Trey Turner, who's not
the greatest defensive shortstop. The Dodgers saw

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an opportunity of need because of a
temporary injury, and we're able to sign

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Trey Turner. Now. I know
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Munsey is not. But Uh,
there's a lot of things you can

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do if you trade for Vladimir Guerrero
Junior for the rest of this year,

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and you can move some things around
next year as well, Danny. So

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I'm not saying that Dodgers can sign
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contract, because you can't sign everybody
to that, but you can have him

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for the next two years like you
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interesting move. I don't know if
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I see the similarities you're talking about, but he's not really a third baseman,

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and Max has improved a lot over
there this season. He was doing

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really well. He has. But
I don't think if Vladimir Guerrero Junior was

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bad at third base or not playable
I guess in Toronto, but he was

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playing on AstroTurf. It's a lot
different playing at Dodgers Stadium and playing your

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games in the NL west on Grass
and also being on the Dodgers with Dino

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Ebol and Mookie Beds and Freddie Freeman
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I mean we already took a bijo
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you need to keep taking the the
Toronto Blue Jays cast offs ball. You're

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telling me, you're telling me Vladimir
Guerrel Junior is a cast off. Any

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team in baseball would love to have
twenty five year old Vladimir Guerrero Junior.

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You talk about, I'm sure you're
one of those guys too that complains about

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the bottom third of the Dodger order. Do you know the impact it would

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have on the Dodgers order if Vladimir
Guerrero Junior was in it with the big

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four. It would move everybody down. It would move Oscar down, it

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would move Rojas down. It would
just have a trickle down effect that would

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be huge. It wouldn't just be
about third base and Vladimir Guerrero Junior.

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It would be for the whole lineup. Danny. I mean, he's a

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very he's a talented hitter, Dave, But you'd have to give up a

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lot to get that guy for a
season. I don't know. I think

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I think it's kind of hard be
honest with you for a season. Plus,

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Oh hey, Dave, I have
one other question. All right,

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I agree to disagree on that,
and you have to give him too much

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to get the guy. Hey,
you could be here for an hour and

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talking about the same old, boring
names. I'm thinking outside the box that

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I don't believe is unrealistic, especially
if you move off Garrett Crochet and you

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start thinking about Nathan Vivaldi and then
you start thinking about Vladimir Guerrero Junior.

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I was thinking Crochet and Randyo Rose
Arena, which still may be the two

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guys the Dodgers get, But I'm
thinking outside the box now with Vladimir Guerrero

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Junior. With this news about Max
Munsey, I mean I'd be more excited

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about seeing Vargas over at third base, and you know, like they've been

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talking about and seeing if he could
do anything over there. If you're gonna

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put a clunker over there anyways,
how do you know? How do you

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know he's a clunker? You're gonna
trust the blue JS Well a third base,

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I mean as a third base,
but he's played third base? Do

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you know to play third base?
And like I said, dude, the

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Dodgers really emphasize defense. They want
the bat in the lineup and they'll find

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you a position. Well, we
won't agree to disagree, Dare we'll see

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what we'll see what, we'll see
what happened in a few weeks. Like

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like I was saying, you never
know what player could become available, But

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hey, what do you what are
the chances Gavin luck is still a Dodger

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come August one? What do you
what are your thoughts there? I'd say

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fifty to fifty. I'd say with
Mookie Bets coming back and Miguel Rojas going

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to be the dodgers h shortstop moving
forward, I would say fifty to fifty.

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If there's a trade that needs an
extra player to be thrown in,

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it could be Gavin lux Okay,
and if he's still on the team,

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I don't believe he'll be the starting
second baseman. Well, well, if

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he's not that, then what's on
the team for you know, he's run

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show me. I think you can
answer your own question. He's you'd use

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them in another capacity and get some
value for the guy while you can.

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We'll see, and you know,
I don't know who's going to be traded.

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It's it's a rough time year because
all these guys are mentioning Vargas lux

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Autman. I mean, all these
guys could be part of a deal.

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You never know what what kind of
deal they could pull off. I think

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you just answered your own question,
Danny, Yeah, maybe I did.

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Dave, thank you for helping me
get there though. Man all good Man,

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thanks a lot for listening. Good
conversation. Eight six six nine eighty

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seven two five seventy is the phone
number. We're gonna take our final time

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out here on off day Dodger Talk
when we come back. More mind numbing

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trade talk. Vladimir Guerrero Junior.
Look, things have changed in the last

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forty eight to seventy two hours with
this Max Monsey news. The Dodgers need

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a solution at third base if they
can't count on Max Mounsey. And his

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name is Vladimir Guerrero Junior. Six
nine eight seven two five seventy is the

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phone number. Also, Tioscar Hernandez, who also has been a great leader

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for Andy Paz, Miguel Vargas and
others. He wants in on the home

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run derby. You'll hear from Taoscar
next right here on a five to seventy

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LA Sports David Vasse taking you to
the top of the hour on this off

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day Dodger Talk. Jason Smith on
Fox Sports radio will follow us. Tomorrow.

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The Dodgers will be back in action
against the Phillies in Philadelphia Morongo Casino.

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Dodgers on Deck begins at two point
thirty with first pitch at three forty.

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It will be Bobby Miller on the
mound for the Dodgers tomorrow and Gavin

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Stone on the mound for the Dodgers
on Tuesday. We have a few more

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minutes for phone calls at eight six, six, nine eighty seven, two

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five seventy uh Before we go on
to anything else, I just want to

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send out our congratulations to Justin and
Courtney Turner, who welcomed their first child

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into the world a couple of days
ago. I was keeping tabs on it

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because full disclosure, I have Justin
on one of my fantasy teams, and

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it said he was on the paternity
list, and I was not aware the

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baby was due. So I just
wanted to wish my congratulations to Justin and

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Courtney, and Justin went back to
work. The Blue Jays are in San

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Francisco starting tomorrow, so I'm sure
Justin made a pit stop from Seattle to

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San Francisco back in LA but all
our best to the Turner family, and

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congratulations to Justin and Courtney. Eight
six six nine eighty seven two five seventy

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is the phone number. Let's go
out to Long Beach. Joe, you're

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on Dodger Talk. How you doing, Joe? How you doing? Dave?

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This is a Joe the live driver. I spoke too a few weeks

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ago or a month. Hey,
I remember that you had a few few

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over served ladies in your back seat. That's that's right, that's right.

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Good for you, good for them
for taking a lift. Hey, listen,

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I love the trade potential to maybe
get Laddie, but couldn't we get

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Justin Turner thrown in there? I
would love to have Justin Turner back and

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look third base. Yeah, I
wouldn't rule it out. I mean,

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we've seen other former Dodgers come back, so I wouldn't rule it out.

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But you know, Vladimir Guerrero Junior
is the impact bat we're talking about.

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And Joe, can you believe there's
Astros bloggers now saying the Houston Astros should

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trade for Justin Turner to play first
base for Houston? Would Justin block a

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trade there, even with a no
trade clause? Would he just say?

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I am not going there, can
you. I can't even imagine Justin Turner

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in an Astros uniform. Yeah,
I don't be I don't think that'll go.

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I don't think he would go for
that. I was just thinking,

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you know what, Hey, you
get the big bat with with Laddie and

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you would take care of third base
at the same time. Yeah, I

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agree. I agree. Thanks a
lot for the phone call, Joe.

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And I'm not really sure how much
third base Justin Turner has played in Toronto.

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I know the Red Sox last year
were using him as a DH and

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first baseman, and it feels like
that's the way Toronto is using him as

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well. So I'm not sure the
range is there for thirty nine year old

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Justin Turner to go back to third
base. I want to mention Taoscar Hernandez,

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speaking of the Blue Jays, former
Blue Jay, another guy that certainly

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would be a mentor of Vladimir Guerrero
Junior. I'm sure he was a big

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brother to him when he came up
in Toronto. Ta Oscar let me know

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a few days ago that he wants
in in the home run Derby, but

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he's just waiting for Major League base
fall to invite him. What's taken so

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long? There's so many guys like
Aaron Judge that say no, why not

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invite a guy that has more home
runs and RBIs than any other National League

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outfielder to participate in the Home Run
Derby. Look, he's a showman.

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He came up with the sunflower seeds. He's not some stiff that's just going

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to hit home runs. He's got
a personality. I'm all in with Taoscar

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Hernandez being part of the Home Run
Derby. And here was Taoskar after the

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game yesterday going on the record that
he wants in on the derby. You've

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said that if you made the All
Star team, he would love to be

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in the Home Run Derby. Is
that still something you're interested in? Yeah?

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Yeah, why not? Obviously in
my career, I want to.

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I wanted to be a part of
it, see how it feels, and

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why not trying to go for it
and then win everything. So now it's

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official, your name's out there.
I don't know. I don't know if

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it depends how MLV wants to decide, yes, but I'm able to.

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I'm gonna be to participate on it, all right, ta Oscar Hernandez now

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on the record for being wanting in
on the home run derby. Make it

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happen, Major League Baseball, you
already snubbed former Dodger Kennley Jansen. Can

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you believe Kennley Jansen did not make
the All Star team? But Yankees closer?

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Oh, the Yankees. The Yankees
got Clay Holmes selected by Major League

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Baseball to be part of the Al
Relief Corps. Clay Holmes, who has

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five blown saves and a whip of
one three zero six, made it over

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Kennley Janssen, who is on the
verge of being the man with the fourth

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most saves in Major League Baseball history. Ken Lee snubbed again. I can't

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think of a guy that is a
possible Hall of Famer being snubbed as many

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times as Kenley Jansen has in his
career for an All Star opportunity. Ken

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Ley this year with the Red Sox
has converted seventeen of eighteen save opportunities and

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has a whip just over one.
And he's not saving three run leads in

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Boston. I got news for you. He's saving one two run leads.

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And that's why I said he was
a bigger snub than Craig Kimbrel. Come

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on, we all know about Craig
Kimbrel, right, He's not on the

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level of Kenley Jansen, even at
this stage of their careers. And I

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love that Kenley Jansen continues to prove
the critics wrong. Many thought he was

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done three or four years ago,
and he's still going strong. He had

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a great year with Boston last year. He had a great year the year

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before with Atlanta. He is still
one of the best closers in all of

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baseball and still is the reigning saves
champion for the Dodgers. He has more

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saves than any other Dodger and franchise
history, three hundred and fifty. He

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deserved to be an All Star.
And I find it hard to believe if

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things continue this way, with the
Red Sox being in the Wildcard race and

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now only three games back of the
Yankees in the Al East, that they

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are going to trade Kenley Janssen.
That just would not go over well in

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Boston. Boston is seven and a
half games back of Baltimore, and they're

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now four and a half games back
of the Yankees in the standings, but

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only three back in the lost column, and as far as the wildcard goes,

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and I know there's been rumors about
Kenley being traded back to the Dodgers.

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The Red Sox are actually right now
the last wildcard team in the American

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League is Yankees. Twins, Red
Sox Red Sox are forty nine and forty.

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And that's a testament to Alex kra
who learned how to really manage baseball

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sea baseball coming up through the Dodger
organization. He was drafted, developed by

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the Dodgers and I'll never forget.
While Alex was still playing, Steve Garvey

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walked up to us in the dugout
and said, this guy is going to

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be a manager and a great one, and it's turned out to be true.

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All right, that'll do it for
us on Dodger Talk tonight. We

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will be with you after the game
tomorrow Morongo Casino. Dodgers on Deck begins

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at two thirty with Tim Kits First
pitch with Rick Monday and Tim Neverett in

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Philadelphia at three forty. Thanks to
Ronnie Foscio at our Burbank Studios. Thanks

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to you for listening. In case
you missed any of the show, you

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can find it on the iHeartRadio app. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Have

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a great rest of your Monday.
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