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Wellcome everybody, here we go.
It is that time again, Matt Connerton

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Unleashed and we are live from the
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New Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety seven

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Today is a Tuesday, June thirteen,

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two thousand twenty three, so nice
to have you all with me.

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We've got an exciting show for you
today coming up at the five o'clock hour

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in the second hour numerow Dose,
We're gonna be joined via Skype by a

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Texas band. In fact, one
of the songs I played a few songs

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today to open the show. One
of them was Sunset by Lady Chops and

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the g D Jam. Now,
the actual name of the band is not

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It's not GD it's something else.
I'm just cleaning it up for afternoon drive

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radio. Probably wouldn't be a big
problem if I said the name exactly as

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it is. But I mean,
that's not one of those FCC prohibited words

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or anything, but it's it's what
I call a gray zone word, one

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of those words that it won't catch
in any you know, won't catch you

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fined or anything, you know,
occasionally heard in songs and whatnot on the

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radio. But but you know,
I don't know if I don't know if

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it's really appropriate for Afternoon Drive.
If we were on in the evening,

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later in the evening, that would
be different. But I don't know if

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you want your kids here in that. So, so Lady Chops and the

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g D Jam will be uh.
That's the our radio edit version of their

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name. They're gonna be skyping in
at five o'clock. Great band from Texas,

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and that track Sunset that I opened
with is from their album Time,

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and we also have later after we
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segment. We're gonna close that segment
with Funeral Clown, which is going to

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be the world radio premiere brand new
song from that band. And we've got

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a couple other songs we're gonna be
playing as well. Today. They sent

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me the whole thing, uh,
and it's uh, even though all the

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songs aren't out yet. They sent
me the whole album and it's just fantastic.

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I'm really looking forward to talking with
them, really really good band.

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So if you like that song Sunset, that's who that was. Before that,

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I opened the show at the very
top with when will He Ever Learn?

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That is if you're looking for that. That is on YouTube. Parody

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Project is the account and they do
some really fun political song parodies. And

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then I also played the Showers where
secrets were stuffed by Trump by Rocky Mountain

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Mike, another YouTuber who does a
lot of really fun song parodies. I

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was actually, I will confess to
you, I was actually going to save

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that one for later. But then
I saw Melanie's comment that Melanie made in

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the chat room and I said,
oh. She said, uh, you

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are cracking me up with all of
your folder boxes, posts and music,

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and I was like, oh,
I gotta play this one now, and

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I love I think that's funny as
hell. It's only two minutes, it's

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short, so I was like,
I'll go ahead and play it now.

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By the way, even if you're
you know, even if you're full on

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maga, you have to admit that's
pretty funny. That's a funny song.

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I thought that was brilliant, but
not everyone will have a sense of humor

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about it. That is a fact. At some people get very upset if

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you make fun of their they're anointed
one. They get very upset. No

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sense of humor about it. But
that's okay. Uh. Six O three

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the way, I want to say
thank you to my friend Kyle Heavy.

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He is a very important part of
the w m H ninety five point three

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FM family here. He hosts his
own show here called Off the Mark Sports

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on Sundays. But I happen to
run into him. I we have a

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post office box, uh at the
well, the post office right across the

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street. Where else would it be, right? Uh? So I,

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uh, sometimes I'll run over there
time permitting before the show. And I

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ran over there to get the mail, and Kyle was there, and he

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said, you know, condolences on
the loss of your friend if you missed

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yesterday's show. Ben Brackett York,
whom I used to playing a band with,

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passed away. So so we kind
of did a tribute to him.

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And uh, but that was the
first thing Kyle said to me when I

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when I saw him, he said, hey, condolences and and we had

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a nice conversation, a brief conversation
because obviously I was in a hurry I

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had to grab the mail before the
show. But h but I appreciated that

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very much. And thank you to
everybody too for all of your your well

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wishes and and so forth. So
yesterday was a challenging day in that regard,

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but I do appreciate all the support
very much, so, so thank

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you all of you. Um,
and it was good to have Jenny here

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for that as well. Um,
so you know she she usually comes in

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with me on Mondays anyway. But
it was. It was good to have

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her here for that. I definitely, uh definitely needed it yesterday, so

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I appreciate it. Let's say hello
to everybody in the Facebook live chat and

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then we'll see I don't know,
I don't know. It's probably been another

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slow newsday, but we'll take a
look. I'm kidding. Of course,

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history was made today. No matter
where you are on the matter or how

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you feel about it, one thing
you cannot deny. One thing we can

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all agree on. History was made. Melanie, I mentioned, is in

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the chat room, of course,
from the great state of Vermont. Jenny,

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of course is in the chat room
and says shalom peeps. J Fed

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also joins us from Vermont and says
good afternoon everyone. Cristel, our friend

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from the Great state of Illinois,
says hello everyone. Melanie says, I

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don't know what words you are talking
about. I won't know how to find

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the group. Jay Fed speculating it's
great Dane, not quite, not quite.

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I'll put it this way. It's
a way of taking the Lord's name

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in vain. We'll just leave it
at that. Again, probably wouldn't be

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a big It probably wouldn't be a
big deal because like I said, it's

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not one of the really bad words
that you absolutely can't say on the radio.

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But I have to tell you,
guys, I have a really really

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good streak going here of not getting
not getting in trouble. I've got a

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really good streak going. I haven't
been in trouble for anything in a long

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time here. I want to keep
that up. I want to push that

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to the limit. Let's see how
long I can go without getting in trouble

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for anything. So I'm I'm airing
on the side of caution. With that

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airing on the side of caution,
Alex Wiley joins us from the UK and

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says, all right, you lovely
people. Hello Alex, nice to see

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you, and they're welcome, Welcome
to the show. Let's see. So

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what happened today, Well, today
was oh j Fed says, I'm glad

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you won't say it, I know, right, So, yes, history

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made today former President Donald Trump arraigned
in court. And this has been and

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Melanie's daring me to say something in
the Facebook live chat which I absolutely cannot

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say that would definitely get me fired. Melanie. Let's see, let's let's

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get the update from the Associated Press
here. This has been unfolding this afternoon,

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Trump will be released. This was
posted seventeen minutes ago. Trump will

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be released without having to pay a
bond. I expected that he certainly is

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not a flight risk, former President
Trump, because if he fled the country,

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then that would really complicate his campaign, his campaign efforts. Let's see

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it says here, Trump will be
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He will not have to surrender his
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will not have to Like I said, he's not a flight risk. Obviously.

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As the hearing continued after his not
guilty plea was entered, Trump sat

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at the table, scowling with his
arms crossed. Former President Trump is pleaded

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not guilty to federal charges alleging he
hoarded classified documents detailing sensitive military secrets and

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schemed toothwart government efforts to get them
back. I'm going to stop there for

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a moment because I want to this. I've got an angle to play here

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that I haven't heard anyone else.
Well, it's been alluded to here the

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use of the word hoard, but
I haven't heard anyone else in the media

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really explore this. And one of
the things that I do try to do

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with this show is explore angles and
ideas on big news stories that maybe not

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anyone else or almost no one else
is really talking about her exploring and try

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to bring a little bit of an
unusual perspective, get a little outside the

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box. You know, we talked
yesterday on the show. Jenny is very

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she sounded very certain that it's really
just all about ego with him, and

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that does seem to be in terms
of why Trump did this, because you

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know, I want to know why. I want to know why. Jenny

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seemed to think it was. It's
it's about ego and just being able to

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show off and say, you know, look what I have, and that

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that there seems to be a broad
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lot of people think that. Um. But there is also, of course,

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the more sinister concern is, you
know, was he trying to do

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something really nefarious with these documents?
Um? But there is another possibility,

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and again I haven't heard anyone,
and I've heard it sort of vaguely alluded

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to, but I haven't heard anyone
address this possibility directly. And when I

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say this, uh, many of
you, maybe most of you, maybe

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all of you will think, Oh, I don't know about that, Matt.

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That's a little Really you think it's
that. I'm not saying I think

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it's this. I'm just going to
throw this out there again, the use

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of the word horde in that AP
style, in that AP style apnews dot

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com website. Um, but they
report in the apiece. It's known in

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the business as the AP style of
reporting. I completely made that up.

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Um. Is it possible that he
does have a compulsion to hoard and that's

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why these because we've been led to
believe that the hoard with an H Melanie,

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not with a W with an hum. We've been led to believe that

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things were collected, shall we say, in a rather hurried and haphazard fashion,

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as the Trump administration was vacating the
White House at the end of his

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presidency, when he when it was
time to go. Um, is it

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possible that there was a mindset of
let's just grab whatever we can because he

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maybe he never intended to do anything. I mean, yeah, part of

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it. I'm sure he liked showing
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know, I've got secret documents here. I'm sure that's part of it.

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But is part of it also just
that psychological thing of wanting to have this

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stuff, not for any real purpose, but just to have it. And

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it kept getting moved around, of
course, as is alleged in the indictment,

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which you know, they call it
a speaking indictment or a talking indictment,

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where the indictment itself tells the story
as it lays out the theory of

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the case within the indictment. So, you know, it sounds like these

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things were moved around a lot.
But how could he possibly I'll throw this

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out there, how could he possibly
have had time to go through all all

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of these boxes and figure it out
and figure out what he wanted to you

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know, keep or his show to
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I mean, there's no way.
I mean, you're talking about boxes

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and boxes of documents, you know. And and again the story is apparently

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he would go through things at times, he would look through things, but

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but he didn't want other people looking
through his things. And how would he

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ever have enough time to actually go
through all this stuff. So let's put

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aside for a moment the idea that
he might have been up to something nefarious,

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you know, other than obstruction of
justice by trying to hide these from

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the government so he wouldn't have to
give them back. I mean, aside

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from the obvious, right, but
let's let's put aside the idea for a

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moment that he may have had any
nefarious intent as far as what he was

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going to do with the documents themselves. You know, I've I've known people

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I think. I think hoarding is
more common than people might realize, and

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it is something I've seen clients for
over the years. It's a very common

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problem and it takes different forms.
And when I say see clients, you

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know, if you don't know,
I'm a hypnoth therapist, and you know,

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I help people to do things like
with smoking, lose weighted, et

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cetera using hypnotherapy. I've also had
a couple of clients over the years who

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came to me because they had a
hoarding issue and they knew it. A

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lot of people who have hoarding issues
don't even know it, but they'll engage

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in compulsive behavior. It takes different
forms, like keeping things that you're never

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going to actually be able to do
anything with, like maybe stacks and stacks

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and boxes and boxes of some sort
of paperwork, or you know, a

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common one too, is people who
have a lot of disposable income and they

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end up ordering a lot of things
online or from the home shopping network or

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whatever it might be, and they
order things that they'll they're never actually going

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to use, and they have boxes
of unopened things just sitting in their homes,

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things that they ordered that they want
to have in their home that they're

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never going to actually use for any
purpose. They just want to have them

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there. It's it's really pretty fascinating. I had a friend and this is

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what I was thinking of when I'm
looking. I'm looking at a picture,

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looking at a picture right now on
this monitor, the now famous bathroom photo

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where you see the boxes of documents
in the bathroom, which again Kevin McCarthy

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says, it's perfectly fine because the
bathroom does lock, so no problem there.

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House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. That's apparently
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But I had a friend whom who
his father. This wasn't high school,

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and I won't say I won't say
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away any names here. But I
had a friend in high school who I

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went over to his house once,
to his dad's house. I went with

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him to his father's house, and
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but I remember walking into the house
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just everywhere everywhere, very large stacks
of newspapers. He just had everywhere you

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looked, just and not little piles
either, big stacks of newspapers. He

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must have been collecting them his entire
life. I mean, just these enormous

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stacks of newspapers. For what reason? What was he keeping them for?

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Why was he saving them? Who
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I don't think his dad had any
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gonna ask him. That'd be kind
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why do you save all this?
Why do you save all this?

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And it wasn't anything else. It
wasn't like he had stacks of anything else

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but just newspapers, stacks of newspapers
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newspaper, the local penny saver,
you know, just whatever. He clearly

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had a hoarding issue, not that
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you know, qualified to. I
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it is, but not that I
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that's clearly what was going on there. Anyone with any common sense could see

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he's a hoarder, and in his
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reason, whatever it is psychologically that
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likes to be surrounded by large stacks
of old newspapers. And I remember my

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friend telling me too that his dad
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the store, and this part's interesting. He would buy like ten copies of

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the same newspaper. Like he'd buy
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bring them home, and you know, he'd leave one out to read,

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and then the rest of them into
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it was almost I'm not kidding,
it was almost hard to find a

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place to sit in his living room
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And again for what purpose, who
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to me. And I'm just throwing
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think about the numbers of documents and
the number of boxes here and again I

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can see in this picture that there
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was going to have time to go
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And I don't mean hoarding them,
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as a figure of speech. I
mean literally hoarding them because there's something psychological

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there where he just has that compulsion
to do it, just throwing it out

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there. I have no idea.
Mike Doyle's on the line, high Mike,

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Hey, Matt, how's it going
good? How are you? Big

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political news? Have big stuff going
on. I feel for the country a

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little bit. I feel for the
so much discourse in this country that we're

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now putting people in possession of spion
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death. But but going along with
your hoarding thing, Yeah, there was

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a strange There's these questions that I
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the middle and ask these questions for
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rated Trump is considered a neat freak. Everybody who knows him knows he has

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to be clean, everything has to
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been known as a neat freak.
So that and a little bit distorts your

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theory of the of the hoarding of
documents I guess to be hoarded them and

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the in boxes. Well, right, that's why I was going to say,

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I disagree. I don't. I
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again, and I'm looking at the
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I mean, the boxes are piled
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don't. I don't think there's any
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theory is probably BS. I'm just
throwing it out there, though I have

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to wonder. Just understand, I
understand it's food for thought. I've met

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I've met enough hoarders where it's like, hmm, this is kind of interesting

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to me. But that's kind of
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to I'm always fascinated by the psychology
of it all, like why people do

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what they do and what might be
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think just comes from being a hypnotherapist. And part of it too, you

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know, I grew up with my
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so you know he might have some
thoughts on this in fact. But

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anyway, but but go ahead,
Mike, but do you remember when there's

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there is the I just look for
the things I can question, you know.

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And here's here's the thing that remember
when he picture he's a neat freak,

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right, and then yeah, now
the FBI and goes in and raids

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Mara Lago. The next day,
there's pictures on the Internet of documents,

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top secret documents strewn all over the
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Oh, you ask yourself not to
wait a minute, now, the

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neat freak? Would he ever?
Would he ever do something like that?

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Number two, Mike, how did
it go from How did it go from

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the FBI? Who was the one
in there? How did it go from

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them to online? And everybody can
see? Wouldn't that be information? They

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wouldn't want anybody to see. Yeah, Mike, you're you're repeating some Fox

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News narratives that are not accurate.
So no one ever claimed I mean people

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claimed that they claimed it because it's
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narrative. No one claimed that the
documents were found that way. The reason

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the documents were spread out that way
was because the FBI was taking pictures of

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Look, we have to take pictures
of what we have here. They never

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claimed that they were found strewn all
over the floor. No, that's not

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true. Pretty sure, believe you. I believe you're incorrect. I believe

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you're Yeah, I believe you are. Why would it go why would it

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be Why would it go all over
the news all of a sudden? Why

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would they Why would the narrative for
like a week was look at how the

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documents were left on the floor.
Don't you remember that? It was all

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over the news And the FBI never
stood up and said, oh, no,

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no that's not it wasn't him.
That's what we did. No,

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they said that. No, the
FBI did come forward and say that.

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Now. I do think that you're
probably correct that some people initially did report

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that the documents were found strewn all
over the floor, but the FBI did

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come forward or the dj did come
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if it's but certain, well of
course not because certain news outlets aren't going

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to tell you that, because for
certain news outlets, it's more uh,

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it better suits their narrative to not
correct the record. You don't you don't

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watch I watched CNN all the time, man, So yeah, for you

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pinning me in the corner that I'm
just a Fox News guy, I didn't

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all the time. I didn't say
that. I'm just saying, hey,

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look, they all do it.
Everybody does it. You very rarely see

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anyone correct their narrative on anything.
H if it if you know, if

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they want to continue to serve their
audience the way that they do. So

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I'm not saying that, but I'm
just saying I I specifically, where did

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I get it? Then? Where
did why do I remember? Uh?

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It was either the FBI or somebody
from the DJ coming forward and explaining that

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why where did I get that from? If no one ever corrected it?

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I mean I didn't imagine it,
so obviously obviously the record was corrected on

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that. Yeah, I didn't see
that at all, And I slipped between

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those two channels pretty regularly. Maybe
maybe you need to question I have who's

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in charge of the archives? Because
how these documents getting strewn all over the

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place. Biden's got them, Trump's
got them? How are they getting how

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are they getting out and not being
recorded of exactly what's taken out? And

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to the to the letter, you
know what I mean, to the t

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these are top secret documents. How
is it that people have boxes and boxes

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of them and there's no there's no
accountability for it. It's like, oh,

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and I'm not saying this Trump,
whatever you did. If they caught

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them with these boxes and they're saying
that it's wrong, it's wrong. So

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don't say I'm jumping to Democrat that. All I'm saying is how did how

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did Biden have these documents for five
years two nineteen or eighteen and they're all

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over there and it is you know, how how who was in charge of

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How did somebody not say to them, hey, listen, you've had them

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for two years, can you bring
them back? Or you checked them out,

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you know, like a library.
He checked them out five years ago?

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What are you doing with him?
And I just don't know who these

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people are that are in charge of
these archives. We don't know exactly what

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top secret information was taken out,
you know, box number forty four which

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has twenty seven documents in it,
so that when they want it back,

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they're gonna get back box number forty
four with twenty seven documents in it,

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you know. So that's that's just
wonderment to me of how that can be,

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how that can be? And so
anyways, it's just a thought,

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sure, all right, Mike,
But yeah, so I don't know.

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Yeah, I'm going to look up
that thing that the did the FBI ever

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come back and because I don't remember
seeing it at all, because I would

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have you know, that's the first
thing I clamped onto when I heard he

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was a neat freak. I would
suggest, I mean, everybody in his

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everybody in his universe, saying he
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that. Right there, we'll see, right, okay, Mike, all

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right, well I appreciate the call. All right, good, all right,

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thanks bye bye. All right.
Uh well, what I was trying

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to say, I couldn't really get
back in there. But what I was

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what I was gonna say to Mike
is I mean, if you're just flipping

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back between Fox and CNN and that's
that's it, then you know you might

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want to expand. I mean,
I don't know if he's literally saying that's

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his entire media diet, but um, I mean I definitely recall uh that

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being explained about the documents. But
again, but there was in right wing

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media, there was a narrative being
spun that uh oh, look what the

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FBI did. They went in and
they trash the place and they just threw

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this stuff all over the floor to
make Trump look bad, and that was

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absolutely not, uh, not the
case. Um. I mean you can

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pretty easily. H I'm just looking
online for one of the Yeah, here

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it is on uh CNN dot com
for example. Uh oh, that's not

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the article I was looking for.
I was looking for something about the the

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way that you know they took those
pictures. Yeah, I'll find it.

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I'll find it later at the break. But I mean that was definitely reported

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that, you know, uh in
in mainstream media. So um. Anyway,

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um, and as far as uh, the National Archive to address that

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question, yeah, I mean,
clearly there is something broken at the National

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Archive when somebody, whether it's Joe
Biden or Mike Pence, you know,

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when they can take documents and for
years and years they just have these documents

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and they never give them back and
nobody comes looking for them. But again,

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in the case of President Trump,
there was so much that was missing

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because there's boxes and boxes and boxes. There was so much that was missing

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that there was no way the National
Archive could not notice, and they did

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ask for them back, and they
asked for them back again, and eventually

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it led to the FBI having to
go there and you know, and then

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you've got the lawyer with the swarren
f A David saying, oh, we

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gave you back everything, and no, no they did not, and h

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and all of it. So,
I mean, if Trump had just complied

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with the initial requests, as we
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of this, uh, none of
this would even be happening right now.

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That would have been that would have
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brand new single today. We're gonna
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after we talk to them at the
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forward to that. They sound so
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They are really really good, just

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fantastic. I don't even want to
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them for you. Let's see lots
of Facebook live chat comments here, let's

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see, let's get caught up on
these. Oh my goodness, Love,

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we've got a very busy chat room
today. Let's see. Alex Whiteley says,

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we'll get house house arrest in his
massive mansion, pistorious style assumer for

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an oscar pistorious. No, no, no, he won't get house arrest.

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He's not a he's not a flight
risk of any kind. I mean,

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he's got a he's got a campaign
going here. Let's see. Um,

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some of these I can't read on
the air. Alex Whiteley says,

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so he really didn't think he was
going to lose the election, so caught

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himself short? Could be Oh,
I think referring to, you know,

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the haphazard way and these documents and
the way these documents were collected on their

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way out the door. M j
FT asks, Oh, referring to my

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career as hypnotherapist. J FT asks
you hypnotize yourself? Yes, well,

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we all do in ways that we
don't even realize. And if you've ever

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done any kind of meditation, that's
also a form of self hypnosis when you

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meditate. Chris from Edgewise joins us
in the Facebook Life a High Chrism Fredo

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joins us or I'd like to say
this full name, Alfredo Enrique Benavitas from

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the band Dank Sinatra and also Cosmic
Blossom. Fredo says, I've seen hoarding

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turn into whole rooms in a house
rendered unusable h due to being filled with

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00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:26,559
junk. Yeah, absolutely absolutely.
I mean again, I'm probably wrong.

409
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:32,200
I'm just throwing it out there as
a theory. But think about it.

410
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,559
When was he ever going to have
time to actually go through all of those

411
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:47,119
You're talking about thousands and thousands of
documents, you know. Jay fed says,

412
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,799
sounds like a fire hazard. Oh
I think that's referring to my friend

413
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:52,039
who had the dad who would save
the newspapers. Oh yeah, no doubt,

414
00:30:52,200 --> 00:31:02,519
no doubt. Melanie says he was
going through that. He wasn't going

415
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:06,039
to go through them. He was
going to sell that privilege to others.

416
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:08,400
One could say he was going to
hoard the documents out. Yes, you

417
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:14,039
could say it that way. For
just a cup of coffee a day.

418
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,599
Crystal, our friend from Illinois,
says they have a TV show about hoarding.

419
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:18,799
Yeah, I'm aware of that show. I've never watched it, but

420
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,039
I am aware. There's a there's
actually a television show called Hoarders, And

421
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,880
like I said, it's a much
more common thing than than people realize.

422
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:30,119
But it manifests itself in different ways
for different people, and and obviously to

423
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:37,680
varying degrees. Melanie says regarding that
show, some people get extreme with their

424
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:45,839
hoarding to the point that their homes
were condemned because the infestations envirominent, living

425
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,880
and dying in the mounds of stuff. Some hoarder homes have dirty dishes with

426
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,680
rotted food. Gross. Oh yeah, it can be a real problem.

427
00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:05,160
It can be a real problem.
Oh. Chris Poorrior, also known as

428
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,640
Crispy Very Funny local comedian, joins
us in the trat room. Chris says,

429
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,079
Matt Trump's a treason trojan horse for
putin from day one or so,

430
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,480
it seems. Well, I'm not
gonna go that far, you know,

431
00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:22,960
ay, listen, I mean I
will remind everybody Trump is afforded under the

432
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:30,960
Constitution the presumption of innocence until proven
guilty. So I will just remind every

433
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,519
one of that. I mean,
make your judgments. I'm not admonishing anybody.

434
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:45,799
I'm just reminding everyone of that.
Uh Let's see some of these I

435
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:58,559
can't really read. Some of them
have a profanity in them. Crystal thinks

436
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,559
that, uh my sounds like the
voice of Cliff Claven from Cheers. But

437
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:09,799
today, yes, John Ratzenberger from
Cheers. Yeah, well he's famous.

438
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:15,039
So Mike should take that as a
compliment. Melanie says, I think she's

439
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:17,680
being sarcastic. Of course, clearly, you are just a cog in the

440
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:28,680
liberal media machine. Let's see,
Dave wally Is in the chat room says,

441
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,039
what if you can't stop buying guitars. I would not consider that hoarding,

442
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,480
Dave, because guitars are actually of
some use. Like if you're in

443
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,920
the examples that we've already talked about, if you're just saving giant stacks of

444
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,839
old newspapers, there's no reason to
be doing that. Or if you're just

445
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,480
buying junk off of you know,
on Amazon or from the Home Shopping Network

446
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,079
or whatever, and it just sits
in a box in your home that you

447
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,559
never even open, you know,
there's no reason to do that other than

448
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:57,559
to have it. But a guitar, I mean, you know, come

449
00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,599
on, you can play it,
or you can just look at it.

450
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,240
I mean, even if you never
pick it up and playing, if it

451
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:06,839
just looks cool sitting there or on
your wall or whatever, that's pretty awesome.

452
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:16,840
So Dave says, my wife disagrees. Let's see. Alex Whiteley,

453
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,920
our friend from the UK, says, quote, how did Biden? Unquote?

454
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,079
It's called what about ism? And
it's been one of the biggest problems

455
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,840
of this era of politics, trying
to point fingers in other directions rather than

456
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,400
face the real issue. You have
to try better, dude, Well I

457
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,440
will, so I'm gonna stick up
for Mike on that, though I don't.

458
00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:38,760
I don't think that's what he was
doing. That is what a lot

459
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,599
of people are doing, of course, because unfortunately a lot of people that's

460
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,519
the only way they can talk and
think about politics. But when Mike brought

461
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:52,599
up Biden, he was talking about, you know, the point that you

462
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,199
know Biden, whether it's Biden or
Pence, you know, they have these

463
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,280
documents and the archive never notices they're
missing, and that probably he does indicate

464
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:08,320
an issue with the National Archive that
something can go missing and they don't notice

465
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:14,239
unless it's boxes and boxes and boxes
of stuff and then they notice. So

466
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:17,679
so I think Mike brought up a
valid point. Again, there is a

467
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,719
ton of what about ISSM going on, of course, but I don't think

468
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,119
that's what Mike was doing, at
least not in this case. So I'll

469
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:28,280
defend Mike on that. But I
do agree with you, Alex, what

470
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:34,599
about ism is out of control.
You know, when somebody asks how speaker

471
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,840
Kevin McCarthy about this, and you
would hope that Kevin McCarthy would care about

472
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,239
national security somewhat and he just says, you know, a reporter asked Kevin

473
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,519
McCarthy, well, is it a
good look to have all these stacks of

474
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:49,639
boxes in the bathroom? And then
McCarthy immediately goes, well, I don't

475
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,840
know. Is it a good look
to have a document in a garage that

476
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:58,039
opens and closes? Or that was
the Biden reference. And then I think

477
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:00,960
he worked in something about Hillary as
well, because you know, even though

478
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,679
it's twenty twenty three, we're still
going to do the whole butter emails thing

479
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,320
whenever it's convenient. So, even
though these are different situations, very different

480
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:15,679
in terms of the magnitude, enormously
different, and also, in the case

481
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:21,280
of Trump, two words intent and
obstruction that we have to introduce into the

482
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:25,920
discussion. But yeah, I mean, what about ism is just incredible.

483
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:30,760
The biggest problem with what about ism, aside from it not being a particularly

484
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:35,719
sophisticated way to think about or a
productive way to think about politics and speak

485
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,199
about politics, the biggest problem I
see with what about ism is that if

486
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:44,519
you take that and you follow it
all the way through to its logical conclusion,

487
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:49,239
no one can ever be held accountable
for anything under any circumstances, no

488
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,760
matter what they do. Ever,
you can't hold anyone accountable ever, why

489
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:59,079
because somebody else might have also done
that thing. So therefore, if any

490
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:04,239
time some one you like does something
bad, and all you have to do

491
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,960
is say, well what about when
this other person I don't like did something

492
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:13,119
bad? Then okay, Well,
by that logic, no one can be

493
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:15,800
accountable for anything. If you're going
to employ what about ism, you might

494
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,559
as well just go all the way
with it and say, Okay, I

495
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:27,039
guess politicians are above the law because
most people, because they're only able to

496
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,360
or only willing to think about and
view politics through a partisan lens, most

497
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,239
people are only interested in holding people
they don't like accountable, But when somebody

498
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,800
they do like is in trouble,
they just go, well, what about

499
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,159
when the person I don't like did
something bad? You know? So I

500
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,760
guess you just can't ever hold anybody
accountable for anything. That's the ultimate endpoint

501
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,239
logically of what about is M It
would be like to me An example I

502
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,960
like to use is imagine you're sitting
in a courtroom. You're on a jury,

503
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:04,000
and you're in a courtroom on a
murder trial, and the defense attorney

504
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:09,239
gets up during closing arguments and says
to the jury, listen, ladies and

505
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,480
gentlemen of the jury. I know
it looks bad for my defendant, and

506
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:19,360
I know that it's your duty here
to judge whether or not my defendant is

507
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,599
guilty or not guilty. But before
you render judgment on my defendant, I'll

508
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:29,000
just ask you this, what about
all the other people who committed murder?

509
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:30,960
I don't see you judging them?
Oh no, you're just here to judge

510
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,679
my defendant. You're here to judge
my client. But I don't I don't

511
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,239
hear any of you saying anything about
all the other people who've committed murder.

512
00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:45,119
And some of them got away with
it? What about them? So you

513
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,119
just can't I guess you just don't
hold anybody accountable for anything. Anything goes

514
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,159
the wild West. That's the biggest
problem to me with what about is m

515
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,639
you know, I mean, if
your mindset is is all you have to

516
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:07,960
do to you know, as if
there's no such thing as scale, all

517
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:15,599
you have to do to justify Trump
is to say, you know, well,

518
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:19,039
what about Biden? He had a
document in his garage. It's like,

519
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:23,639
really, so that makes it because
the thing is, if even if

520
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:30,800
there is, let's suppose let's let's
go with the narrative that, let's go

521
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,960
with the magat narrative for a minute. They say that there's a double standard.

522
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,559
They say we have a two tiered
criminal justice system. They've coopted that

523
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:44,000
whole talking point because it usually a
two tiered criminal justice system means, you

524
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:47,079
know, you've got one tier and
one standard of justice for the wealthy and

525
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:52,079
powerful and the elite, and another
standard for everyone else. And the way

526
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:57,559
those standards work is the wealthy and
the powerful and the elite generally get away

527
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:00,239
with things and are not held accountable
for things that the middle class and the

528
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,199
poor in this country are held accountable
for and do not get away with.

529
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,039
That's what we usually mean, but
they've coopted that concept into well, now

530
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:15,440
we have a two tiered criminal system
of justice where I guess, you know

531
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:22,320
you only Republicans are held accountable but
Democrats aren't, which is bizarre in so

532
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,079
many ways. But but let's just
suppose, for example, let's go with

533
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:32,880
that for a minute. Let's suppose
that there is a double standard. Does

534
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,840
that mean that the only way to
remedy that, the only way to address

535
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,159
that there being a double standard,
is we just shrug and throw our hands

536
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:43,880
in the air and say, Okay, well, I guess there's just going

537
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,360
to be no standard now, because
that's what you're saying, those of you

538
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,159
who do that, who think that
way. If you say, well,

539
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:54,679
there's a double standard, so therefore
we have no right to hold Trump accountable,

540
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,719
then you're saying, then we just
can't have any standard ever, right,

541
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:06,320
And I would also remind you,
I mean that's what you're saying,

542
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,599
Oh yeah, politicians, I guess
they are above the law. We just

543
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,800
want to hold anybody accountable. That's
what you're saying, whether you realize it

544
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,000
or not. But the other thing
too, I when Ryan people love because

545
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,920
when people say I hear a lot
of people say, well what about Biden.

546
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,639
I would just like to remind everybody
because I think people keep forgetting there

547
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:28,800
is an active d OJ Special Counsel
investigation. Is not Jack Smith, he's

548
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,360
assigned to Trump. Somebody else has
assigned to Biden's. There's an ongoing investigation.

549
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,199
They already close the investigation on Pence. They concluded, Okay, he

550
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,920
made a mistake, he's screwed up, but probably no ill intent. Intent

551
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:47,239
matters with this, maybe more than
it should, in my opinion, I

552
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,440
don't think, you know, just
because you didn't intend to be sloppy with

553
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:59,760
secret documents doesn't make it somehow Okay, So I think maybe intent should matter

554
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,840
more than it does, to be
honest with you. Having said that,

555
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,360
they closed They already closed the case
on Pence. They say, well,

556
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,480
he clearly was not doing anything nefarious. This was an honest mistake. It's

557
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:14,159
a bad mistake, but it's an
honest mistake. He wasn't up to anything.

558
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,119
So they closed that. The investigation
into Biden and the you know,

559
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,719
they found, for example, one
secret document was in his garage. That

560
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:25,480
is unacceptable. I don't want anyone
to get the wrong idea and think I'm

561
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:30,800
justifying that or blowing that off.
Now, is that on the same scale

562
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:37,199
as what we're talking about with Trump
not even close a document in his garage

563
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,239
is not you know, thousands of
documents in boxes in a bathroom. Okay,

564
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,840
these are very different, but I'm
not excusing that either. That's pretty

565
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,519
careless, that document being left in
his garage. And I understand the garage

566
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:54,880
was locked, except unlike the bathroom, the garage isn't locked, you know,

567
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:59,639
only when there's somebody in there.
The garage is locked when there's nobody

568
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:02,400
in there, So that's a little
different. Someone should probably explain that to

569
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:08,440
how speaker McCarthy. But uh,
but that does m I mean, that

570
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:15,239
does show just a carelessness that is
not acceptable. And I'd like to know,

571
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,840
I do. I want to hold
everybody accountable. I would like to

572
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,400
know how that happened and why that
happened, by the way, not and

573
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,960
Biden wasn't even It's not like he
had the power to declassify anything. That

574
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:34,000
argument, you can't even put that
in there because Biden was vice president when

575
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:39,840
that happened. So why why was
that left in his garage? I do

576
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,360
want to know that, and I
hope we do find that out eventually,

577
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,039
and he should be held accountable for
that. Absolutely. I don't want anyone

578
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:52,119
to misunderstand. But uh see,
because if I really wanted to, I

579
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:54,840
could do what about is them?
I would just have to come at it

580
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,639
from the opposite direction. I would
use what about ism to defend Biden.

581
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,000
I would say, well, uh, you know what, what what about?

582
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,719
When it's only one document? You
know, why is that a big

583
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,760
deal? But I'm not saying that
at all. I'm saying it is a

584
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:15,039
big deal, Um, just not
as big, but it's still concerning.

585
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,440
That's pretty careless. Our friend Ron
is on the line, Hey Ron,

586
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,920
Hey Matt, how you doing them
good? Um? I've been following this

587
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:27,559
and I've already got saturated. Now
I just want to change the channel and

588
00:44:27,639 --> 00:44:30,840
find something that doesn't have news and
see what happens when it's over. Sure

589
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,559
how I can imagine this case is
going to take a long time. But

590
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:42,400
let me ask, is he if
it sounds guilty, can he end up

591
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,880
behind oz? Uh? Probably not, because my suspicion is, what will

592
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:52,159
happen as long as Judge Eileen Cannon
is provided is presiding over the case.

593
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,840
Um, I think what what might
very well happen is she's going to delay

594
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:01,519
and delay and delay so that it
doesn't even go to trial before the election.

595
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,880
Um. And even if, but
even if at some point he's found

596
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,960
guilty, whether it be in the
near term or the long term, I

597
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:16,880
mean, hell, even if even
if he has found guilty by the jury,

598
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,360
you know, she can just give
him a suspended sentence or something.

599
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:25,239
You know what I mean? Okay, uh, mister Trump, uh for

600
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:31,039
the for the crime you've been convicted
of espionage and obstruction of justice, and

601
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,800
uh I hereby sentence you to uh
eight to ten hours of community service,

602
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,519
you know, I mean, there
there are ways, there are escape hatches

603
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:46,800
for for Trump on this regardless.
So I I do I believe that he's

604
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,880
actually going to end up in prison. I am highly skeptical. I will

605
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,760
believe that when I see that,
And I don't think I'm going to see

606
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,400
all right. Well, I'm glad
glad to hear your opinion in your thoughts,

607
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,519
but I'm a guy I can say
I've already got saturated with this.

608
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:05,519
I just wish you would end oh, I understand. I mean, I'm

609
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,360
I'm fascinated by it, but you
know I live for all this stuff.

610
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:13,199
So but I but I hear you, Ron, I hear you. Okay,

611
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,119
brother, all right, my friend, thank you so much for the

612
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call. Good night, all right, bye bye. All right. That

613
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was our friend Ron, And we
are going to as we as we approached

614
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the top of the hour, we're
gonna take a quick break show so I

615
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616
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another great track from the band Lady
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617
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actual name again, that's the radio
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618
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gonna feature another one of their great
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619
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by the time that's done, we
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620
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They're skyping in from the great state
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621
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them. And then after we talk
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622
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623
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656
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657
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660
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661
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easy the won't you help me help
brother? Listens, he's easy, give

662
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a give a little and it will
come right to you. Just trust me

663
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and give a little in my feel
little truth? Who individual? You have

664
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to be poor? Don't you be
poor? Gonna be poor and more?

665
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Bee f stop the same money now, won't you help me help my brother?

666
00:52:46,239 --> 00:53:46,159
Brother? Brother? Box ain't Oh
that is so good? That has

667
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:52,079
given a little from Lady Chops and
the g d jam we're cleaning up the

668
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:55,039
name a little for the afternoon Drive
radio. But I think we have at

669
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:59,239
least one member of the band.
Maybe. I think Bethany's there because that's

670
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,400
the name I see. I'm Skype. Hello, are you there, Hi?

671
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:07,320
Yes, it's actually me and Nick. Hi. Hello, welcome to

672
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,679
both of you. Great stuff.
I I love your band. Uh.

673
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,159
Let's listening to the music earlier preparing
for the show, and you've got a

674
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:20,519
great sound there. So I wank
you so much. Yeah, I wanted

675
00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:22,960
to say that right off the top. I opened the show today with Sunset

676
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:29,960
and uh and really good give a
little as great and then of course when

677
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,880
we conclude our conversation, we'll play
a funeral clown. Uh. This will

678
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,840
be a premiere but uh yeah,
So it's wonderful to talk with you today.

679
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,440
And by the way, you're getting
some love in the Facebook live chat

680
00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:45,800
already my friend Dave Wally. He
says, this is a great tune.

681
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:50,920
Love the way it breathes, use
of space and dynamics. Love the cheeky

682
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:54,760
guitar groove, very cool. Uh
and the overdrive back to the groove.

683
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:01,320
So that's some very specific compliments there
from from a great compliment. Thank you

684
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:07,840
so much. Thoughtful, very nice, very nice. So Bethany, you

685
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,480
sang obviously, and Nick, what
do you do in the band? I

686
00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:14,920
played drums? Okay, okay,
very good, very good. And where

687
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:16,159
where are you from? I know
you're from Texas? But where in Texas

688
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:21,320
are you? We're in Austin,
Texas. Ah, good music scene there,

689
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:27,000
huh oh yeah definitely. So I'm
I'm curious about about that. Now.

690
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,400
We've had other guests on the show
musical guests from Texas. But um,

691
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:36,480
being in Austin, what is that
like? Because I would think that

692
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:42,199
in Austin specifically it's known for the
music scene, it must be very competitive.

693
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,920
I mean, is it is it
hard to stand out in a music

694
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:52,239
scene like Austin, Texas? I
would say yes and no. The scene

695
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:57,760
is very saturated and saturated, like
in a really good way. There's so

696
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:07,159
many great artists and um, sometimes
it's easy to get buried in some of

697
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:15,000
the more hot acts. UM.
But then sometimes you really get the great

698
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:21,679
experience. I feel like there's a
certain Austin experience that you can have and

699
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:27,119
uh, it's it's a really great
feeling when you can get to experience that.

700
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,599
I mean, the people, the
community and all. All of the

701
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:36,719
musicians are really supportive of one another, so it's really a blessing to be

702
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,599
a part of it. To be
honest, are you both from there originally

703
00:56:39,679 --> 00:56:46,280
or did you move there? We
are from different cities. Well, Nick

704
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:51,239
is from New York, Yeah,
okay, from Yeah, he's from upstate

705
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:55,760
and then and then I'm from Houston. Oh, okay, okay, Nick?

706
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,119
What brought you from New York all
the way to Austin? Specifically,

707
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:05,840
Austin's music scene brought me here.
I used to be in a different band

708
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:08,599
before I moved here, and we
did a tour from New York all the

709
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:12,920
way down to Texas. Yeah,
and we made our way to Austin,

710
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,559
and I thought it was an awesome
city. I saw the fact that it's

711
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:22,559
the live music capital of the world, so there's a million and one venues

712
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:28,159
you can play, Yeah, And
compared to my hometown, it had so

713
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:34,639
many more venues and so many more
musicians and a lot more opportunities. So

714
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:39,159
I kind of quit my job and
moved down here. And Bethany and I

715
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:45,159
met pretty quickly after I moved down
here, and now it's five years later

716
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:52,239
and we've been making music ever since. Yeah, that's Um, it's interesting

717
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,960
that, you know, because obviously
New York is is people think of New

718
00:57:55,079 --> 00:58:00,599
York as really being especially you know, obviously New York City, uh specifically

719
00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:04,559
being uh you know, you've got
so many bands and so many venues and

720
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,239
uh. But yeah, Austin,
really, I've I've definitely heard we had

721
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,599
somebody else on the show. I
can't remember who it was, but um,

722
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,840
there was somebody else on the show
and another band who had a similar

723
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,079
story to yours Nick. Where they
they had moved from. I don't know

724
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:20,280
if it was New York. I
think it was somewhere in the northeast,

725
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,320
and they had moved all the way
down to uh, down to Austin,

726
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:27,840
uh for for the same reason.
So um and yeah, and I imagine

727
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,320
obviously Austin, because of there being
so much music there, it must be

728
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,039
pretty eclectic, I would think,
because people think of Texas when they think

729
00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:39,119
of Texas and kind of the macro
sense they you know, they think of

730
00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:44,000
country music and and and some some
metal. You know, there's some some

731
00:58:44,159 --> 00:58:46,719
great metal bands that come out of
there too. But Austin, obviously you

732
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:52,039
probably have pretty much everything you could
imagine in terms of genres and subgenres of

733
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:58,159
music. I would guess, you
know, I had that same preconception before

734
00:58:58,239 --> 00:59:00,079
moving down here. I thought,
Oh, it's going to be a lot

735
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:05,360
of country music, and it is, but there's a good rock scene down

736
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,119
here. There's a lot of like
soul, M, jazz, R and

737
00:59:09,239 --> 00:59:14,239
B, hip hop, folk music, like you said, heavy metal,

738
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:19,719
pretty much any genre that you could
think of has some sort of fan base

739
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,519
here in Austin. And the cool
thing is that it's a it's a big

740
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:27,519
city and it's growing, but it's
not as large as a lot of other

741
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:30,760
major music cities yet. Yeah,
so it's not it's not the same size

742
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:37,719
as your LA Chicago, Nashville,
or New York City, And so you're

743
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,320
you're able to like meet and network
with people in a way that might be

744
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,920
harder to do in some of those
other bigger cities. And like Bethany mentioned,

745
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:52,480
it's got a really good music community
that's big and growing but still manages

746
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:58,920
to be personable and very tight knit. Okay, okay, very good,

747
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,239
h Bethany. Did you so,
I was reading a bio on the website,

748
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,400
was was this kind of your did
you kind of initiate the starting of

749
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,599
this band and and and was meeting
Nick kind of at the beginning of this.

750
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:15,360
Yes, um, so this is
my brain child. It's it's just

751
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:22,000
a bunch of songs that I've accumulated
over the years. Um and yeah,

752
01:00:22,239 --> 01:00:30,480
Nick is my founding member, and
we started the whole project together very good.

753
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,280
Um. And I have to say
too, I like, uh,

754
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:39,360
you know your voice is um you
you do a lot of you don't really

755
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:45,719
hear that much of this where you
kind of just effortlessly seem to go from

756
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,719
you know, in and out of
falsetto on a lot of these songs.

757
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,800
And I'm sure I'm not the first
one to point this out, but it's

758
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,079
really remarkable. How did you learn
to sing? Did did you take formal

759
01:00:55,199 --> 01:01:01,400
Are you formally trained? I am
not formally tum. I have just listened

760
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:07,159
to a lot of music. And
I was the annoying kid I grew up

761
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:15,840
with in my grandma's house and constantly
I was doing the um the cranberries thing

762
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:19,519
with my voice. Uh. I'm
going to give you an example, and

763
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:22,440
I'm sorry to the listeners in advance, but it's like yeah, yeah,

764
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:28,599
or I guess that's like sort of
a Lantis But also yeah, yeah,

765
01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:31,320
yeah, so some weird voice things, and I think it was like the

766
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:38,800
beginning of just like, um,
you know, practicing and experimenting and just

767
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:45,760
being a weirdo. Honestly, that's
that's the thing that leads artists to do

768
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:52,480
what they do, right right,
Yeah, no formal training, just just

769
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,400
me and my ears. Yeah,
yeah, all very cool. And can

770
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,280
you tell me about the strategy with
this album. So you've got a full

771
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:04,119
album time, but you're you're releasing
one song every month, correct, Yeah,

772
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,800
so we're putting one song out every
single month. The idea behind it

773
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:14,960
is to sort of have like a
like a release schedule for it. You

774
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:19,280
know, there's all these debates in
the industry about whether or not dropping an

775
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,000
entire album is a good move or
not. A lot of people have moved

776
01:02:23,079 --> 01:02:30,239
to just continuously dropping singles, or
they're putting out an eph some people put

777
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,480
out two epsy or And we had
debates about the best way to put this

778
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,360
record out. We wanted to put
out an album, but we didn't want

779
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:42,519
to drop the whole thing and then
you know, kind of get tired of

780
01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:45,360
promoting it. So we decided to
do one song a month. That way,

781
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:50,639
our listeners have something to be excited
about every single month, and we

782
01:02:50,719 --> 01:02:54,000
can line up the album release,
we can line up the single releases with

783
01:02:54,239 --> 01:03:00,159
like shows. And it also just
makes it a little bit easier to promote

784
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:06,880
each song individually as its own thing, rather than having to take an entire

785
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,840
album and pick a single and then
put all the effort into one song and

786
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:15,039
maybe it works, hopefully it does. But each of the songs are really

787
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:19,159
special to us, so we wanted
to make each one kind of like its

788
01:03:19,199 --> 01:03:22,840
own little vigner, you know,
like a story with each one. Yeah,

789
01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:29,960
very good. And so is there
when will the full album be available?

790
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:31,519
I guess I guess at the end
of when you get to the end

791
01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:36,880
of the singles, right, Yeah, we're looking at probably it'll be out

792
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:43,480
by September or October. Okay,
okay, very cost Yeah yeah, and

793
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:47,320
then so but how does this work
in terms of your live set? Do

794
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:53,119
you do you play songs that haven't
been released yet as singles since you're you're

795
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,920
doing it this way, or how
does that work? Yeah? So the

796
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,639
cool thing is a lot of our
audience Austin already knows a lot of the

797
01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:05,239
tunes, so they're excited they're you
know, they're they're wanting us to put

798
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:12,400
these songs out um as as time
goes on. Yeah, but yeah,

799
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:15,320
you know, a lot of our
audience in Austin, they already know some

800
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:20,119
of the lyrics and everything, so
it's pretty cool. Yeah, we we

801
01:04:20,599 --> 01:04:26,880
have been experimenting with adding new songs
to the set as well, because to

802
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,079
be honest with you, we've been
playing, um, this set of songs

803
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:35,599
out live for something like two or
three years now, um, and so

804
01:04:36,719 --> 01:04:43,400
now it's kind of a good opportunity
to introduce songs that people haven't heard yet.

805
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:53,000
And yeah, so during this time, we're starting to put new songs

806
01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:58,320
and kind of start working towards the
next set of music that hopefully will release

807
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,559
maybe next year or something. Yeah. Yeah, And how often are you

808
01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:04,719
playing out? Do you play out? Do you play out a lot consistently

809
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:12,239
or Because it's interesting how that there's
been a change certainly around here, and

810
01:05:12,719 --> 01:05:15,079
I it seems to be even with
artists that I talked to from other parts

811
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:19,440
of the country, where there's less
emphasis than there used to be on playing

812
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:25,280
out all the time. Partly,
I think it's just because it's expensive to

813
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,280
go out on tours. And whatnot. But of course, in your case,

814
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,880
in a city like Austin, you've
got options to play, right there,

815
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:33,800
plenty of them, it sounds like, but do you play out consistently

816
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:38,440
or do you kind of space it
out and pace ourselves? Yeah? We

817
01:05:38,679 --> 01:05:45,920
play out pretty consistently, but less
than we were before. So now we're

818
01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:49,280
picking up a couple of gigs per
month. I think we'll have had three

819
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:54,119
gigs this month. We have one
at the end of this month, and

820
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:59,280
then nothing else on the book so
far. Yea, but yeah, we're

821
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,599
trying to play a couple of shows
a month basically. Okay, okay,

822
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:08,000
very good. Now, this track
that we're gonna do the premiere of a

823
01:06:08,159 --> 01:06:11,760
in a moment, a funeral Clown. With a name like that, I

824
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,800
have to think there might be a
story behind this. Is there is there

825
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,760
a story behind the song that we're
going to be played? Yeah? Absolutely

826
01:06:18,719 --> 01:06:26,440
So. Funeral Clown is about my
experience of letting negative self talk take over

827
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,880
and convince me that my friends don't
like me, which is not true.

828
01:06:31,719 --> 01:06:38,000
Yeah, and you know, negative
self talk is something that I've battled with

829
01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:42,559
for a really long time, and
music is sort of my way of working

830
01:06:42,719 --> 01:06:48,920
through that. So I think what's
really special about this song is that even

831
01:06:49,039 --> 01:07:00,760
though it's mostly about this idea that
people don't like me, that it's behind

832
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,440
the veil is the truth of the
matter, and there's the truth is that

833
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:15,039
I'm loved and that that I'm cared
about and important to people. And um,

834
01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:23,719
the funeral clown aspect, that visual
aspect is UM is supposed to kind

835
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:35,159
of embody the foolish mindset, that
the foolish like negative mindset, and UM,

836
01:07:35,719 --> 01:07:41,760
you know, it's just I feel
like a clown when I come to

837
01:07:43,079 --> 01:07:45,199
to the light, you know,
when I realize it's like, oh no,

838
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:49,960
um. Like, for example,
there's a line in this song UM

839
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:57,719
about the very first pre chorus.
It says, UM, there you go,

840
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,559
pointing your finger at me, which
is kind of like a negative view.

841
01:08:01,679 --> 01:08:04,760
It's like somebody pointing their finger at
you. They can't be saying something

842
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:10,199
good about you. But then the
next line turns around and says um saying

843
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:15,039
she's my number one, she's she's
the best yea. And then it goes

844
01:08:15,079 --> 01:08:19,720
into the chorus, which is saying, you know, I'm a fool and

845
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:26,159
now I'm crying and I'm crying off
all my makeup, you know, so

846
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,399
that's kind of what it's all about. Okay, Oh, very cool,

847
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,479
very cool, all right, Uh
yeah, I love the song and I,

848
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,000
like I said, I love all
of them. This is really good

849
01:08:35,039 --> 01:08:39,199
what you're doing. And uh,
I'm glad I got to talk to you

850
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:43,000
today and we get to feature some
of your music and h one thing too.

851
01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:45,640
I want to make sure that our
listeners know where to find you online,

852
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,880
how to keep up with everything that
you're doing u uh and keep up

853
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,760
with the new music you know again, you know, since you're doing this,

854
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,880
um you know, one song,
one new song coming out per month,

855
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,880
which which is great. You know, it's funny. Coincidentally, I

856
01:09:00,119 --> 01:09:03,680
just, um, last week I
had on Holly Brewer and she does something

857
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:09,039
like that too, except in her
case, uh, it's not h one

858
01:09:09,159 --> 01:09:14,319
song that's ultimately going to be a
complete album. She's just releasing. It's

859
01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:17,680
it's just this endless run of singles
that she's been doing since twenty nineteen where

860
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,640
every single month she just releases a
single. But she's but she's stuck to

861
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:26,439
it. She hasn't missed one in
uh four years, I think she said,

862
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,119
so oh wow, that's yeah cool, yeah, yeah, she just

863
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:33,960
does one one single a month and
then it'll just be this endless collection of

864
01:09:34,039 --> 01:09:39,680
singles. But where where should people
go online? And in terms of social

865
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,520
media on your website and everything to
keep up on what you're doing. Sure,

866
01:09:44,039 --> 01:09:46,279
Um, the best way to keep
up with what we're doing is,

867
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:51,920
um, we're very active on Instagram, So that's Lady Chops forever and it's

868
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:57,439
all spelled out. And then on
Spotify you can look up Lady Chops in

869
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,239
the g D Jam, but g
D is all spelled out, if you

870
01:10:00,319 --> 01:10:05,239
know what I mean. Yes,
So yeah, that's that's the best way

871
01:10:05,279 --> 01:10:08,960
to keep in touch. Oh I
gotta ask you too, where does the

872
01:10:09,079 --> 01:10:15,560
name come from? Um? Okay, so, um, lady Chops is,

873
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:20,680
um what It's a haircut that I
gave myself actually, Um, so

874
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:25,079
I can't grow mutton chops because I'm
a girl. Yeah, Um, so

875
01:10:25,239 --> 01:10:30,760
I cut my own. Um.
And then the g D Jam it sort

876
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,800
of was a joke at first.
We were like playing playing our set together

877
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:41,840
in the early stages obviously, um
of our band and um, and I

878
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,840
think I turned around and I said, this is the g D Jam and

879
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,199
um, and I was like,
you know what that's gonna end up being

880
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,800
part of the name, you know. Yeah, it's a great name.

881
01:10:53,359 --> 01:10:55,720
Kind of stuck. Yeah. Yeah. People hear it and they're like,

882
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:00,600
whoa, what step No, it's
really it's really good. I love it.

883
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,439
I love it. Okay, well
listen, we're gonna we're gonna play

884
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,039
that track, but I will let
the both of you go and then I'm

885
01:11:05,039 --> 01:11:09,399
gonna play the song. But Bethany
and Nick, thank you so much for

886
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,479
joining us today. Wonderful to speak
with you. I love your music,

887
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,479
and uh, we will have to
do this again in the future. H

888
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:16,920
And hey, you know, every
month you've got a new song, uh

889
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,920
hitting the airwaves, so we'll we'd
love to be the first to play them

890
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:26,680
as they come out. But uh, but so it's it's great to talk

891
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,920
to you today. But thank you
both so much for joining us. Thank

892
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,520
you so much. Right, you
got it. Thank you, bye bye

893
01:11:33,239 --> 01:11:38,560
bye. All right. Wonderful.
So that was Bethany and Nick from Lady

894
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,680
Chops and the g D Jam And
uh, we're gonna play this. Uh

895
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,960
this is the newest single. We'll
play this and then we'll we'll come back

896
01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:47,840
with the balance of our program today. But check this out. This is

897
01:11:48,119 --> 01:11:50,640
it's really good. I've already heard
it, obviously, it's really really good.

898
01:11:51,119 --> 01:11:54,079
If you like the last song,
you like this one even more.

899
01:11:54,159 --> 01:11:59,600
This is Funeral Clown the world radio
premiere here on Matt Connerton Unleashed, So

900
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:12,520
have a listen. I like your
smile, I like you laughter. I

901
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:19,840
stuck around in hope, so we's
talk after. I could have sworn you'd

902
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:29,760
remember my name. I guess I
wasn't cooling up to drag on your chair.

903
01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:40,199
Oh there you go. When did
you fakeer at me? Saying she's

904
01:12:40,319 --> 01:12:55,239
my mom? She grat to sver
my painted face, Cloud, my field.

905
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:13,159
I've got a cavity. It's hard
to see it. I've got to

906
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:23,720
expose. I think it's beading.
I'm coming close to kicking, screaming,

907
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:40,119
come paint on his eye, crying
to see baking on me, asking if

908
01:13:40,359 --> 01:14:35,119
funny? Okay, DearS my baby
faside cloud and my field. You're so

909
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:46,000
popular, you're so pretty. I'm
just a piece of trashing your big say

910
01:14:48,079 --> 01:14:57,520
you need a break from all my
sunnescing pitity. I like your photographs.

911
01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:17,600
You're in so mad you call me
up more often. Remind me that friends

912
01:15:17,680 --> 01:16:41,640
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Solutions dot com. WMNH rip the
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934
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,520
Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live
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935
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Preem and Glorious Downtown, Manchester,
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936
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,159
if you're in Manchester, and hello
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937
01:19:43,239 --> 01:19:45,600
nation and around the globe. You
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938
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,760
com for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact in Folk

939
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show archives, etcetera, etcetera.
Today is Tuesday, June thirteen, twenty

940
01:19:56,119 --> 01:20:00,600
twenty three, as we cruise into
our final segment today of the program.

941
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,439
And by the way, if you're
just joining us, that song that you

942
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:09,359
heard that was Funeral Clown from Lady
Chops and the g D Jam And the

943
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:13,119
actual name is not ged, but
you know, cleaning it up just for

944
01:20:13,239 --> 01:20:16,520
afternoon drive radio in case the young
ins are listening. You. If you're

945
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,760
a parent, you probably don't want
your kid going around saying the actual word.

946
01:20:21,319 --> 01:20:24,520
If we were on later in the
day, it probably wouldn't even be

947
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,680
a big deal. But because you
know, it's not like you know,

948
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,880
you don't get an FCC fine for
that, certainly, but but just to

949
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,920
play it safe, just to play
it safe. But such a great band,

950
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:38,199
and boy, she's got a she's
got an amazing voice, Dave Wally

951
01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:42,600
said in the chatroom while I was
playing great lyricists love the writing so vulnerable.

952
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,399
Yeah, and it was cool to
hear her, you know, I

953
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,479
listened to the song. That was
the second time I had heard the song.

954
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:53,560
I listened to it today before the
show, and I was like,

955
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:57,079
Wow, this is really good.
But then I enjoyed it even more hearing

956
01:20:57,119 --> 01:21:01,560
it the second time after hearing her
explain during our conversation what the lyrics actually

957
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,560
meant and where they came from,
and then it really made sense, and

958
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:10,119
yeah, great stuff. We will
play one more of their songs, one

959
01:21:10,159 --> 01:21:14,199
of the singles that's already out when
we get to the end of today's program.

960
01:21:14,279 --> 01:21:16,399
We have one more song to play
of theirs today, but please check

961
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,960
him out online. Lady Chops and
the g D Jam. Great stuff,

962
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:25,199
and thank you again so much to
Bethany and Nick for joining us today on

963
01:21:25,279 --> 01:21:27,520
the program. If you would like
to join us today on the program,

964
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:32,439
the studio line is open six zo
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965
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,760
zero six O seven. You can
also text me at six one seven nine

966
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:40,680
one seven four four seven six.
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967
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,880
You can email me Matt at Matt
Connerton dot com, and of course you

968
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,520
can interact end Opine in the Facebook
live chat. But the best thing to

969
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,560
do so that we can hear and
enjoy your dulcet tones is to give us

970
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:53,920
a call at six O three two
five zero six O seven By the way.

971
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,760
Quick programming note. Tomorrow on the
show, our musical guest is Aaron

972
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,640
Bilido. He'll be with us in
studio for the second hour. He the

973
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,960
last time he was on the show, he was here with what what became

974
01:22:05,039 --> 01:22:11,960
kind of an infamous appearance from a
musical. Yes, Hue the Gecko was

975
01:22:12,079 --> 01:22:16,640
here with us, and I think
Hue brought out the pod awful crew.

976
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:23,880
Not all of you will know the
reference, and that's fine, But but

977
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,119
Aaron was here too because he works
with Hue. But Eric, Aaron rather

978
01:22:27,239 --> 01:22:30,439
also has his own solo project,
really good stuff. So he will be

979
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,439
here tomorrow in the second hour,
and of course in the first hour,

980
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:38,760
we will have our friend Eric Pilcher
with us for our weekly segment, and

981
01:22:39,079 --> 01:22:42,920
we talk about media mostly during that
segment, but we get into some other

982
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,000
stuff as well, and I have
a feeling that there will be a particular

983
01:22:45,079 --> 01:22:48,680
news item that we will be distracted
by. But I'm sure we'll get into

984
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:54,399
some of how the media is covering
that particular news item that is thus far

985
01:22:54,800 --> 01:23:00,119
dominating the news cycle this week.
But let's let's catch up with the Facebook

986
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:05,520
live chat before we go back to
that wonder Swede four I love these names.

987
01:23:06,319 --> 01:23:11,600
Wonders Swede four is in the Facebook
live chat. By the way,

988
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:16,760
I strongly suspect that wonders Swede four
is from Greensboro, North Carolina, and

989
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:23,680
says hello, hashtag Matt, good
afternoon to you from us. We are

990
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:29,239
reunited, are back together. We
will say we have a Facebook like page.

991
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,439
Oh outstanding. I was hoping you'd
say that. Jay Fed says,

992
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:38,960
is that like wonder bread and wonder
Swede four says, we say, who

993
01:23:39,119 --> 01:23:42,680
is the guest you are talking to
hashtag Matt, And we say who's the

994
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,880
artist? We said, well,
that was Lady Chops and the g D

995
01:23:45,079 --> 01:23:50,840
Jam. Of course, Alex Whiteley
was saying, you know how because the

996
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,760
band we were talking to, of
course, Bethany and Nick from the band,

997
01:23:55,119 --> 01:23:58,840
they have a specific strategy that they're
using for there. There. It's

998
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,279
like they have this album time,
but they're releasing it in slow motion in

999
01:24:01,359 --> 01:24:08,079
a sense, because they're releasing one
single per month until finally it's it's completed

1000
01:24:08,119 --> 01:24:11,439
and the whole album is out.
And Alex said, you know, or

1001
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,880
another strategy would be to go crazy
like Weezer and release an album for every

1002
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,680
season. That was insane, but
really really good. Yes, Weezer did

1003
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:23,560
do that. I remember that.
Wondrous Swede Fur says Weezer is a good

1004
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:28,600
band. We said hashtag Matt and
Alex Whiteley corrects and says wrong, they're

1005
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,239
the best. Yeah, I know, I know. I know some people

1006
01:24:30,279 --> 01:24:34,279
who really I like Weezer, but
I know some people who really love Weezer.

1007
01:24:38,319 --> 01:24:41,840
Let's see. Mike from Queen City
Cabinetry joins us in the Facebook live

1008
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,680
chat. Queen City Cabinetry is one
of our great sponsors here at WMH ninety

1009
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five point three. Speaking of bread, Queen City Cabinetry is in the Historic

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Sunbeam Mall, named of course after
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vaunted General Sunbeam, the greatest military
mind since sliced Bread. Mike is also,

1012
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,760
of course, one of our co
hosts on Friday Night on retros Spectrum

1013
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:08,720
Radio with Pauly C hosted by Police, and I'm one of Paul's co hosts

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01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:13,039
on that show along with Mike and
DJ Steff. I'm really excited about this

1015
01:25:13,159 --> 01:25:16,279
Friday's Retro Spectrum Radio. In particular, I'm more excited about this one than

1016
01:25:16,359 --> 01:25:20,439
I have been about probably any previous
episodes in a long time. I always

1017
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,680
look forward to the show. But
this Friday Night, it's going to be

1018
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:28,479
demo versions, the original demo versions
of popular songs. This is going to

1019
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,560
be a lot of fun. I'm
really looking forward to this one. I

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01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,880
think. I think Friday Friday Night's
show is going to be fascinating. By

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01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:38,520
the way, wondrous way for does
confirm? We are from Greensboro, North

1022
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,920
Carolina. How did I guess?
How did I guess? Ronda ferverro joins

1023
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,920
us from the Great State of California. Hello, Ronda. Weird pull.

1024
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:51,239
Alex Whiteley talking about talking about the
band that we featured. Alex says,

1025
01:25:51,279 --> 01:25:56,159
a weird pull, but these guys
remind me of Travis. She sounds like

1026
01:25:56,239 --> 01:26:03,800
a female version of fran Healy.
Good stuff, Let's see. Mike Pellapeta

1027
01:26:04,039 --> 01:26:10,760
from Queen City Cabinetry also really enjoying
the band Let's see, Alex also said,

1028
01:26:11,039 --> 01:26:15,199
and a hint of catatonia. Alex
also says, I was singing the

1029
01:26:15,279 --> 01:26:19,000
Clementos ad in the kitchen the other
day. The wife was looking at me

1030
01:26:19,119 --> 01:26:23,600
like I was a madman. Ha
ha. Yeah, I find myself singing

1031
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:28,239
along to it. You know,
it is catchy. You know Clemento's pizzeria.

1032
01:26:29,359 --> 01:26:32,319
Blah blah blah. I don't know
all of the words Clementos, but

1033
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,560
uh yeah, Greg Joseph by the
way, shout outs to him, because,

1034
01:26:36,199 --> 01:26:41,239
of course the owner of Clementos.
He also has become a frequent contributor

1035
01:26:41,319 --> 01:26:44,039
on the Morning Show with Peter White, which of course you can hear weekday

1036
01:26:44,039 --> 01:26:46,119
mornings from seven to night. I
am with a replay two to four pm,

1037
01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:49,119
right before the show, and Greg
sits in on the Morning show a

1038
01:26:49,119 --> 01:26:53,319
lot, and he's very good on
the air. He's he's got kind of

1039
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:59,000
a sly, understated sense of humor
that I really like. It's subtle,

1040
01:26:59,159 --> 01:27:04,319
but he's very funny. Um.
His interaction the other day with Louis Angelidas,

1041
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:10,279
I think that's how he says new
last name uh or actually something he

1042
01:27:10,359 --> 01:27:14,600
said after that that was particularly funny. That was kind of a it was

1043
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,800
it was interesting. But uh yeah, yeah, I like I like Greg.

1044
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,439
I don't think i've met him yet
in person, but but i'd like

1045
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:25,840
to. He's he's very funny,
all right. Six three two five six

1046
01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:30,920
seven six three two five six seven. Um. By the way, I

1047
01:27:30,039 --> 01:27:34,000
saw this pop up on media I
and uh, This is not from the

1048
01:27:34,039 --> 01:27:40,239
Onion. This is how this headline
is actually written. Trump now fundraising over

1049
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:45,600
possibility he'll die in prison. This
just went up a few minutes ago.

1050
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:47,319
Uh, it says here. And
by the way, the fundraising, of

1051
01:27:47,359 --> 01:27:50,720
course, that's part of the deal. Every bad thing that happens to Trump

1052
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:57,439
legally, he uses it as a
fundraising opportunity to get more money out of

1053
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,000
his followers. You know, I'm
in more legal Trump will send me money.

1054
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:08,039
It's quite the business strategy and enormously
successful. Since the indictment was first

1055
01:28:08,079 --> 01:28:13,000
announced, he's raised millions of dollars
into the campaign coffers, some of which

1056
01:28:13,039 --> 01:28:16,159
he uses to pay his attorneys.
Apparently. I'm not saying that as a

1057
01:28:16,279 --> 01:28:25,079
joke or to be to be what
would be the word to be crass.

1058
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,479
That literally is true. Apparently,
so he does sometimes pay his attorneys,

1059
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:36,520
not always from what we understand,
but so it's been a pretty successful strategy

1060
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:41,439
so far. But this is how
so assess here. Emails went out around

1061
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:45,920
the time Trump and his aid Walt
Nada or Nada or I've heard his name

1062
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,000
pronounced three different ways, where scheduled
to appear in Miami. Under the heading

1063
01:28:49,359 --> 01:28:55,760
so This is the email that went
out apparently under the heading Trump Make America

1064
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,880
great Again in twenty twenty four.
The email began This is the actual text

1065
01:29:00,119 --> 01:29:08,560
of the email. Quote friend reports
state that I could receive a maximum sentence

1066
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:13,880
of four hundred years in prison despite
being a totally and completely innocent man.

1067
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,239
I honestly cannot believe I just typed
those words to you. It sounds like

1068
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:26,760
something Stallin or Mao did to eliminate
their opposition, but instead it's happening here

1069
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:35,239
in America. Communism has finally come
to our shores. Okay, this is

1070
01:29:35,319 --> 01:29:40,960
more. But can I just say
this is what you call a hard sell.

1071
01:29:41,119 --> 01:29:44,079
This is a little over the top, isn't it? Even for him?

1072
01:29:45,039 --> 01:29:51,199
Communism has finally come to our shores. Wow, you know, I

1073
01:29:51,359 --> 01:29:54,720
have to tell you, honestly,
I always knew this moment would come,

1074
01:29:55,079 --> 01:29:58,760
you know, communism coming to our
shores. I bet if I drove to

1075
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,560
the seacoast of New Hampshire right now, I would see, uh, I

1076
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:09,159
would see just communists just landing at
Rye Beach in in their boats saying we're

1077
01:30:09,239 --> 01:30:13,680
communists and we're we're arriving on your
shores. What are you gonna do about

1078
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,680
it. Nothing. You're gonna be
You're all gonna be communists. Now,

1079
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:26,680
sorry, I should treat this with
the gravity that it deserves. Communism arriving

1080
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:32,039
on our shores and uh, you
know, trumping the victim of the tactics

1081
01:30:32,119 --> 01:30:35,359
of Stalin or mao. I mean, that's uh, this is serious business.

1082
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:40,520
I'm sorry. I don't mean to
make light of it all. And

1083
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:44,760
then the next line is we are
no longer living in the country of Washington

1084
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:51,079
and Lincoln. Oh my again,
this is from the fundraising email. For

1085
01:30:51,159 --> 01:30:56,760
the first time in American history,
the federal government has used its prosecutorial powers

1086
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:01,720
to charge the leading opponent of the
current regime. While today is certainly grim

1087
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:09,520
and dark, do not lose faith. As I said once before, with

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01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:15,960
a dark cloud over our beloved country
or beloved you can pronounce it either way.

1089
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,159
I have no doubt, nevertheless,
that we will make America great again.

1090
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:30,479
So there's the that's the you know, grabs your attention. Right.

1091
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:35,720
Then comes this is where he makes
the ask, the send me money part,

1092
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:42,720
the monetary ask quote, please make
a contribution to peacefully stand with me

1093
01:31:43,079 --> 01:31:49,319
and save the greatest country in history. For fifteen thousand percent impact unquote,

1094
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:55,680
what does that mean? I'm not
good at math, but apparently if I'm

1095
01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:00,119
understanding that sentence correctly, and I'm
not sure that I am, because it's

1096
01:32:00,199 --> 01:32:08,920
incoherently and poorly written, but it
sounds like if you donate to his campaign

1097
01:32:09,079 --> 01:32:12,960
right now, based on what that
sentence says, it will have a fifteen

1098
01:32:13,079 --> 01:32:17,680
thousand percent impact impact on what.
I'm not sure. It's not clear to

1099
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:24,039
me. I don't understand this part
of the email. I don't understand what

1100
01:32:24,199 --> 01:32:30,800
that means. Fifteen thousand percent impact. Not only do I not understand what

1101
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,720
it means, but I don't know
how one would go about even measuring impact

1102
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:39,720
impact of what I don't know.
Maybe if I knew what impact we were

1103
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:44,560
talking about, I could understand how
one would measure it and the percentage of

1104
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,680
which that impact is or would be
if you donate money. I don't know

1105
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:54,119
how this part works. Maybe it's
just a fundraising thing that I don't understand.

1106
01:32:54,199 --> 01:32:59,279
I don't know the email it goes
on. The article goes on.

1107
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,239
The email may have given a hint
as to the Trump team's legal strategy against

1108
01:33:03,279 --> 01:33:09,439
the thirty seven charges facing the former
president, claiming that the federal government has

1109
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:14,720
used its prosecutorial powers to persecute President
Joe Biden's leading political opponents seemed to be

1110
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:19,640
the talking point of the day.
Earlier, Trump attorney Alina or Elina Haaba,

1111
01:33:20,399 --> 01:33:25,359
who is not affiliated with this case, claimed a two tiered system of

1112
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:31,560
justice in the United States. Haba
or Habba spoke outside the federal courthouse saying

1113
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:36,399
Trump was being targeted for per prosecution
by the federal government. Trump is the

1114
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:40,680
first former president in US history to
face federal charges. Yeah. I'd never

1115
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:44,800
seen her before. I remember I
was still home and we were watching on

1116
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:46,800
television, Jenny and I when she
came out, and I was like,

1117
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:54,199
who's she never even seen her before? But she came out and she said

1118
01:33:54,279 --> 01:34:01,119
some things and didn't really there was
no there was no defense of Trump really

1119
01:34:01,159 --> 01:34:04,119
and what he was what she was
saying, just uh, you know that

1120
01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:12,039
it's uh, it's a political prosecution
or persecution or both. Alex Whiteley says

1121
01:34:12,039 --> 01:34:15,520
in the chat room, there was
once a powerful voice who also used the

1122
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,560
influence of his followers to overcome the
laws of a land, and he went

1123
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:23,880
on to murder millions of people across
the world, and no I won't heed

1124
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:30,840
uh my words. Uh, this
is eerily familiar. M I think I

1125
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:35,079
know where you're going with that,
but I won't. We won't. You

1126
01:34:35,159 --> 01:34:43,159
know, it's you know anyway,
But I take your point. Uh six

1127
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,119
three two five six seven. If
you'd like to get in with a call

1128
01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:49,399
six zo three two five O six
zero seven. Um. By the way,

1129
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:58,560
Dan Abrams was on earlier. What
show was he on? Um?

1130
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:03,159
He was talking about I won't play
the whole segment. Oh, Mike Doyle

1131
01:35:03,399 --> 01:35:09,319
is calling back. Maybe Mike knows
what fifteen thousand percent impact means. Hey,

1132
01:35:09,399 --> 01:35:13,680
Michael, I don't, and I'm
really good with math. I know,

1133
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:18,000
I was hoping you would know.
I think he's trying to make the

1134
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,520
I don't know. I think he's
trying to say money wise, it could

1135
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:25,600
put me over the top, you
know what I mean. I guess I'm

1136
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:29,199
sure. Yeah, I'm sure they
can drag this Uh, I'm sure they

1137
01:35:29,199 --> 01:35:32,319
can drag this court proceeding out.
There's so many different disclosures and so many

1138
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,880
motions, right, so, oh
yeah, I'm sure he can drag it

1139
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:38,760
out. And then if he gets
the pity party, you know that type

1140
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,520
of thing. Yeah, But the
reason Hey, the reason for my second

1141
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,000
call, and I hate calling twice, but I wanted to thank you for

1142
01:35:45,119 --> 01:35:49,399
sticking up for me and in a
micro cause him way. That just shows

1143
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:56,159
you how the internet or the social
media can can distort things, or change

1144
01:35:56,199 --> 01:35:59,239
things, or have people say things
that are You and I had a nice

1145
01:35:59,279 --> 01:36:03,399
discussion about how the hell are all
these documents getting out of out of you

1146
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,279
know, hands of the people who
are supposed to be watching them, and

1147
01:36:06,359 --> 01:36:10,319
they don't know where they are and
they don't know who, how many boxes

1148
01:36:10,359 --> 01:36:14,560
and etc. And then this guy
Alex who I don't know, but I'm

1149
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:17,680
assuming, well, I don't want
to say it, but he started saying,

1150
01:36:18,039 --> 01:36:21,640
you know, it's what about ism? And it had nothing to do

1151
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:26,119
with what about ism? But see
that's how that's how social media just slips

1152
01:36:26,359 --> 01:36:29,199
slips things. And you know what
I mean, I wasn't even say if

1153
01:36:29,199 --> 01:36:31,279
I want to get on the water
about him. You've got Sandy Berger,

1154
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,880
remember, and you've got Obama with
three million to his Chicago library, and

1155
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:41,560
you've got tense just recently he was
only a vice president. He really shouldn't

1156
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:45,279
have those how did he get those? And you've got Biden five different locations.

1157
01:36:45,359 --> 01:36:50,039
You've got Trump all over his Marilago. You know, it's everywhere,

1158
01:36:50,119 --> 01:36:55,199
So I what about ism is kind
of I know, i'd play. I

1159
01:36:55,399 --> 01:37:00,239
was just wondering how or all these
people getting these documents from a secure your

1160
01:37:00,399 --> 01:37:04,039
location that the US government's supposed to
be watching. I don't understand, right

1161
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:09,319
right though, that was that was
simply my point. Yeah, I get

1162
01:37:09,359 --> 01:37:12,000
it. Hey, And one last
thing that the girl's voice on that last

1163
01:37:12,239 --> 01:37:16,159
record you play. What a beautiful
I'm a female voice, uh number one.

1164
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:21,159
I love female voices. Yeah yeah, And what a beautiful voice she

1165
01:37:21,319 --> 01:37:25,640
has, changing those notes up and
down a little bit softly. Oh yeah.

1166
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:30,000
The way she goes in and out
of falsetto is uh, it's just

1167
01:37:30,239 --> 01:37:32,880
so she makes it sound easy.
It just sounds so effortless the way she

1168
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,840
does it. It's incredible. Yeah
yeah, what what is like falsetto?

1169
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:41,319
I'm not really I'm not. Oh
when you sing high? When you when

1170
01:37:41,359 --> 01:37:43,720
you you know, when you sing
outside of your normal tone, like if

1171
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,720
you you know, like like the
bags would just as an example, oh

1172
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,439
yeah, you know, but when
they sing high like that, Yeah,

1173
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:54,279
I would, I would got you, got you, I would demonstrate it.

1174
01:37:54,359 --> 01:37:56,760
But I'll mess it up and embarrass
myself. But yeah, yeah,

1175
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,079
yeah, no I don't want that. I need I need my ears.

1176
01:38:00,319 --> 01:38:04,479
Yes, but yeah, just beautiful. She's she's those low she was going

1177
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:10,880
into those lower tones, but switching, switching the heights a little bit in

1178
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,880
there. It's just it's almost like
angelic. Oh yeah, I was really

1179
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:18,880
surprised when she said she had no
formal training. Uh that that really surprised

1180
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,199
me, because she sounds like she
has you know, she sounds like she

1181
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:25,960
took took voice lessons to really fine
tune that. But no, she's just

1182
01:38:26,119 --> 01:38:29,520
she's a natural. Apparently. It's
a really impressive. What a what a

1183
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:33,319
beautiful God given talent? Absolutely absolutely
yeah, look look them up online,

1184
01:38:33,319 --> 01:38:36,000
Mike, if you haven't already,
I mean all I did, I already

1185
01:38:36,039 --> 01:38:40,720
did. Oh did you know what
I was looking at their website. They

1186
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,319
don't show the pictures, is clear. I'd like to see the pictures of

1187
01:38:43,399 --> 01:38:46,520
who they are. And it's a
little it's a little morten and mixed.

1188
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:50,399
But but anyways, just very nice, that's all I wanted to say.

1189
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:54,960
Yeah, yeah, absolutely all right, Mike, thank you for all right,

1190
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:58,319
thanks for the call back. All
Right, that was our friend Mike

1191
01:38:58,399 --> 01:39:01,239
Doyle calling back. We do have
so that does open up the line for

1192
01:39:01,279 --> 01:39:03,239
you if you'd like to get in
with a quick call. We only have

1193
01:39:03,279 --> 01:39:05,479
a few minutes left on today's show
and we are going to fit in.

1194
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:11,119
I do want to make sure we
get in one last song from the band

1195
01:39:11,399 --> 01:39:16,159
today, of course, Lady Chops
and the g D Jam from Austin,

1196
01:39:16,279 --> 01:39:20,079
Texas just fantastic, and like Mike
was saying, Bethany just has such an

1197
01:39:20,119 --> 01:39:30,760
incredible voice, so good, so
good. I just uh, this wondrous

1198
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:38,720
Swede four is talking about. I
don't know, okay, what's going on

1199
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:43,199
in there? Just just very very
quickly. Dan Abrams was on television today

1200
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:45,640
and I'm not going to play this
segment it's too long, but he was

1201
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:50,760
just kind of speaking about what about
is him? Dan Abrams, this is

1202
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:58,880
from Media systematically debunks arguments Trump backers
have used against his indictment. We'll just

1203
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:03,079
go through this quick. Media I
founder Dan Abrams thoroughly dissected the most common

1204
01:40:03,159 --> 01:40:09,159
arguments Trump and his political and media
serrogus have used to defend the president's indictment

1205
01:40:09,159 --> 01:40:13,239
for miss handling classified documents. I'm
going to kind of skip down here,

1206
01:40:13,279 --> 01:40:15,880
because we're going to run out of
time. Okay, So just quickly,

1207
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:21,600
Number one, why wasn't Hillary Clinton
charged? Many Republicans responded to the indictment

1208
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:27,600
by equivocating Trump's actions with Hillary Clinton's
email controversy and complaining that she was never

1209
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:31,840
charged. Abram's explained that Trump is
accused of conspiracy to hide his classified documents

1210
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:36,199
from the FBI after receiving a subpoena, whereas the Clinton prosecutors quote determined that

1211
01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:42,600
the evidence in facts showed a lack
of intent to communicate classified information on unclassified

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01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:46,319
systems, especially since none of the
emails Clinton received were properly marked to inform

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01:40:46,399 --> 01:40:53,319
her of the classified status of the
information. Abrams agreed it was wrong of

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01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:57,479
Clinton to have the server, but
he emphasized that prosecutors didn't believe they could

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01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:02,680
prove the corrupt intent necessary to secure
a convention conviction against the former Secretary of

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01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:09,479
State. He went on with a
longer explanation, but like of that,

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01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,079
But like I said, we're going
to run out of time, so I'm

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01:41:12,119 --> 01:41:15,399
going to kind of speed through these. Number two, did Trump declassify?

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01:41:16,239 --> 01:41:20,880
Abrams called out Trump's very weak claim
to have declassified the documents in his possession,

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01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:25,960
but he pointed out that quote It's
irrelevant in the context of this case

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01:41:26,079 --> 01:41:30,520
for two reasons. First, the
subpoena from May of twenty twenty two requested

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01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:34,960
all documents with classified markings, not
all documents currently classified. So whether it

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01:41:35,039 --> 01:41:41,600
was still classified isn't the point unquote. Number three the Presidential Records Act.

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01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,399
Since Trump and his defenders keep claiming
he was allowed to possess the documents under

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01:41:45,399 --> 01:41:51,520
the Presidential Records Act, Abrams argued
that the Act is quote almost certainly not

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01:41:51,760 --> 01:42:00,199
relevant to this case since the sensitive
documents where government property, not personal documents

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01:42:00,279 --> 01:42:08,800
that Trump prepared himself. Yeah,
we're okay. Number four, What about

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01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:13,199
Biden? Again, I'm skipping over
some information here, but I want to

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01:42:13,239 --> 01:42:16,600
get these in Number four, What
about Biden? Regarding Trump World's attempts to

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01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:21,279
compare Trump's situation with the classified documents
found in Joe Biden's home and offices,

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01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:25,960
Abrams pointed out that quote, there
is no evidence at this point that the

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01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:30,720
President lied or intentionally tried to hide
unquote the documents he had. As for

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01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:33,720
Trump, he and his legal team
refused to hand over everything they had despite

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01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:41,119
receiving a subpoena. Despite the thorough
debunking of the apparently thin defenses, Abram's

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01:42:41,159 --> 01:42:45,560
concluded that he still wasn't convinced that
the charges should be brought. So Abram's

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01:42:46,279 --> 01:42:50,600
fair to point out, even though
he's debunking some of these claims, he's

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01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:56,560
not himself convinced the charges should have
been brought against Trump, So he's a

1238
01:42:56,720 --> 01:43:00,560
skeptic on that. Here's what he
said. Quote, I've said it before.

1239
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,399
Look, I think this indictment is
bad for the country. It will

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01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:08,840
end up further dividing us. But
that doesn't necessarily mean you can't bring charges.

1241
01:43:09,159 --> 01:43:11,880
Look. I thought the New York
case was weak and politicized, and

1242
01:43:12,039 --> 01:43:15,119
I said it. This is different. This is based on the evidence.

1243
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,920
Even if it is bad for the
country, there's nothing to indicate it's politicized.

1244
01:43:19,159 --> 01:43:28,439
Unquote. I find his own logic
a little bit inconsistent there, because

1245
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:30,039
he says the indictment is bad for
the country, but then he also says

1246
01:43:30,079 --> 01:43:34,680
there's nothing to indicate that it's politicized
and that it's based on evidence. I

1247
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:38,920
don't know, maybe he's ambivalent.
That's kind of how I take that.

1248
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:42,159
I mean, I look I think
it's bad for the country. It's terrible

1249
01:43:42,199 --> 01:43:44,279
that we have to go through this, But that doesn't mean we don't have

1250
01:43:44,359 --> 01:43:46,000
to go through it, because no
one is above the law. That's my

1251
01:43:46,119 --> 01:43:50,760
position. I think it's worse for
the country to just what just shrug it

1252
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:57,199
off and say, okay, that's
fine, you know that. That's my

1253
01:43:57,399 --> 01:43:59,840
view of it. I think that
would be even worse and more divisive.

1254
01:44:00,399 --> 01:44:05,399
But it's interesting hearing his perspective.
I also have we don't have time for

1255
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:09,880
it today, but I do have
another Well, we'll get to it tomorrow.

1256
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:15,800
In the first hour, there's someone
who has a dissenting opinion about Eileen

1257
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:19,880
Cannon, not a Trump defender,
but you know, I, of course,

1258
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:26,680
and many others are expressing concern that
Judge Eileen Cannon, who has shown

1259
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:30,079
some sympathy towards Trump in the fast
might in the past, might keep her

1260
01:44:30,119 --> 01:44:35,000
thumb on the scale in favor of
Trump in this case. But a former

1261
01:44:35,079 --> 01:44:42,199
Watergate prosecutor actually has a lot of
confidence in Eileen Cannon. Not that not

1262
01:44:42,399 --> 01:44:46,039
that he's a Trump supporter or a
defender, but he seems to think that

1263
01:44:46,279 --> 01:44:50,319
Eileen Cannon actually is uniquely suited to
this case. I do want to look

1264
01:44:50,359 --> 01:44:54,079
at that tomorrow. So kind of
a dissenting view on that that I think

1265
01:44:54,199 --> 01:44:56,720
is interesting, but we don't have
time to get to it today, so

1266
01:44:56,800 --> 01:45:02,520
we'll save that for tomorrow. But
I'll just tell you in case you want

1267
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,880
to look this up on your own
ahead of that, I'll tell you the

1268
01:45:06,039 --> 01:45:10,960
name of the gentleman who is saying
this. I just have to pull it

1269
01:45:11,079 --> 01:45:18,439
up here, former Watergate prosecutor Nick
Ackerman. He is defending Judge Eileen Cannon

1270
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:24,600
by arguing that she has an excellent
background and it was strategically helpful to have

1271
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,359
a Trump appointed judge on the case. By the way, I think as

1272
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,239
far as having a Trump appointed judge
on the case, that might be strategically

1273
01:45:30,319 --> 01:45:35,159
helpful in terms of, you know, kind of hard to argue that she's

1274
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:40,439
against Trump, that she's going to
be unfair to Trump because she was Trump

1275
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:44,359
appointed. But there are other concerns
beyond that with Eileen Cannon. But he

1276
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,279
pushes back on some of that,
so which is interesting. So I mean,

1277
01:45:47,319 --> 01:45:49,720
I know what I think, but
I'm curious to learn more about what

1278
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,119
he thinks and share it with all
of you. So we'll get to that

1279
01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:54,920
tomorrow. Okay, we do have
to go. We're out of time.

1280
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:56,880
If you miss any part of today's
show it we'll be up in just a

1281
01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:00,920
little bit at wmhradio dot org and
in my website, Mat Connerton dot com.

1282
01:46:00,079 --> 01:46:04,520
Thank you all. Thank you to
Bethany and Nick from the band Lady

1283
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:10,279
Chops and the g V Jam.
We're gonna finish out today's show with one

1284
01:46:10,319 --> 01:46:12,960
of their songs. Another one of
their songs. This is called Bell Curve.

1285
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:15,760
We're gonna play that if you're listening
live on Tuesday. Up next immediately

1286
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:20,279
after this show is Through the Stage
Stour hosted by Rob Dyon, followed by

1287
01:46:20,399 --> 01:46:25,279
a replay of Retrospectrum Radio with Police. So if you missed Friday's show,

1288
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,239
you can hear it tonight here on
WMH and don't forget to be back bright

1289
01:46:28,279 --> 01:46:30,760
and early for the morning show with
Peter White seven to night am tomorrow morning.

1290
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:34,279
Thank you everybody, and we will
leave you with this again. This

1291
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:39,840
is Bell Curve from Lady Chops and
the g D Jam to close out today's

1292
01:46:39,920 --> 01:47:04,119
Matt Connerton Unleashed. Hi, everybody, it is stranger? Am I am

1293
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:18,399
endangered? Is this Holly eye?
I feels I'm suddenly aware of fear that

1294
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:33,359
I'm breathing. I've seen this somewhere
before, in the tree for short the

1295
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:47,479
grocery stores. Are you getting much
clearer like my highest sight? And the

1296
01:47:47,800 --> 01:48:12,159
fears are clear on all night,
Curt Baby, It's just as time lest

1297
01:48:12,239 --> 01:48:45,039
the less come on Baaday, It's
just another show given. I keep run

1298
01:48:45,399 --> 01:49:10,680
distances seventy two inches apart more under
ground little now I'm feeling why second time.

1299
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:20,800
But that was not all of this
conspired, all the sturgy. For

1300
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:29,960
I asked for a break, and
I a break. Is this a fence

1301
01:49:30,119 --> 01:49:36,079
to whiway, y'all? I can't
say, like a bl
