1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,759 Hey, Erica Kelly. Here today, we're sharing something special with you. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,000 It's a preview from forty eight Hours, one of the top true crime podcasts. 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:17,440 On the forty eight Hour podcast, you'll hear award winning CBS News correspondents 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:24,359 investigate shocking murder cases and compelling real life dramas from one of television's most watched 5 00:00:24,399 --> 00:00:28,879 true crime shows. I'm about to play you a clip from forty eight Hours 6 00:00:29,399 --> 00:00:34,119 while you're listening. Follow forty eight Hours on the Wondering app or wherever you 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:43,000 get your podcasts. Okay, here's the clip. Forty eight Hours correspondent Peter 8 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:47,799 van Zant takes us back to the nine of November thirteenth, twenty twenty two, 9 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,600 to the University of Idaho, the scene of the now infamous and chilling 10 00:00:52,679 --> 00:00:58,159 murders of four young students. Listen in as van Zant speaks with a few 11 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:11,200 family members of the victims. Moscow will forever be known as a scene of 12 00:01:11,239 --> 00:01:15,640 one of the most tragic crimes in American history. There's still sort of a 13 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:22,840 darkness whenever you talk to people. It would be ever part of the university's 14 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:30,040 history and the town's history. There are four very, very important names in 15 00:01:30,079 --> 00:01:37,400 this case, Kayley Gonsolvi is Madison Mogen Zannakernodle, and Ethan Shapin. And 16 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:40,879 if you're going to remember any names from this case, I ask that it 17 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:47,079 be all four. My name is Olivia Gonzolvez and Kaylee was my little sister. 18 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Everybody's going to work and you look out the window and there's kids running 19 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,599 down the street laughing, and you're just like, how can you be out 20 00:01:55,599 --> 00:02:00,719 there playing? My daughter's did you know? Kayley Gonsolvis is gone. Stop 21 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:09,319 everything everybody in the whole world stop, and everything just keeps going. My 22 00:02:09,439 --> 00:02:16,840 sisters and a Carnal is one of the happiest, funniest people I've ever met, 23 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:23,080 and I had the awesome privilege of growing up with her, and I 24 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:29,520 still have a hard time coming to terms with the facts that did happen. 25 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,919 Brian Coburger is accused of stabbing these four University of the Idaho students in the 26 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,080 pre dawn hours on November thirteenth, twenty twenty two. The murder weapon, 27 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,199 which was a knife, has never been found. This is a type of 28 00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:50,960 survival knife. Brian Coburger did not make his own plea. The judge entered 29 00:02:51,039 --> 00:02:55,400 a plea for him of not guilty, absolute penalties of life in prison for 30 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,879 the data. Due to the nature of the crimes, the state of I 31 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:02,400 was seeking the death penalty. He was there to kill. He came in 32 00:03:02,479 --> 00:03:06,960 with the kid. I believe he had to kill kid. And you believe 33 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:12,439 that everything right down to the implement of destruction, this large marine knife, 34 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:16,680 that was all planned, all planned. It is inhumane. You wouldn't do 35 00:03:16,759 --> 00:03:23,000 these type of things to any living creature, let alone an innocent human being. 36 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,879 In August of twenty twenty three, just six weeks before the murdered trial 37 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,840 of Brian Kolberger was set to begin, he waved his right to a speedy 38 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:39,599 trial. Absolutely they would have to wait indefinitely for their day in court. 39 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:46,919 I was really hoping that we could get this show on the road because the 40 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:57,639 not knowing, it's just it's agony. It's agony. Steve and Christie, 41 00:03:57,759 --> 00:04:02,039 the parents of Kyley, haven't left anything to chance. After the judge issued 42 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:08,520 a gag order to attorneys and law enforcement quote to preserve the right to a 43 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:14,240 fair trial, they drilled down on their own investigation and are now sharing what 44 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:20,959 they believe that investigation found. Steve says he believes transparency is the best path 45 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:27,720 to justice. We're not going to just sit back and cross our fingers and 46 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:35,639 pray that we're going to get justice. It has been a long and painful 47 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:42,639 journey for the families of Kaylee Gonzalvas, Matti Mogan, Zanna Kernodle, and 48 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,600 Ethan Chapin. Do you ever dream of your sister? Yeah, We've had 49 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:54,800 some dreams of her. There's times where I prayed and ask God seerc another 50 00:04:54,879 --> 00:04:59,480 time, and I did, and excuse me some peace, knowing that you 51 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:08,160 know she's okay. Jasmine Coronadal, who was speaking for the first time, 52 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:14,079 was a senior at Washington State University and lived only fifteen minutes away from her 53 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:19,319 younger sister Zanna. Often mistaken as twins growing up, she says they were 54 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:25,079 best friends. She was always fun, she was uplifting, and she took 55 00:05:25,079 --> 00:05:29,519 any bad situation turned it into a good one. Jeff, what did you 56 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:36,199 love most about your daughter? Everything? She cared about people. She was 57 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:42,439 a people person, scared about her friends. This is niceas like your family. 58 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:46,399 For the first time in her life, Zanna had fallen in love with 59 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:53,480 fellow student Ethan Chapin, a triplet who loved his siblings, boats and working 60 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,560 on a tulip farm. The sweetest kid ever. They were just two happy 61 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,800 people and they's just seen the videos and photos of them. You can just 62 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:08,240 like tell how happy they are. They're just amazing together. Sadly, they 63 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:14,639 will now forever be linked in death. On Sunday morning, November thirteenth, 64 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:20,199 Zanna's friends started calling Jasmine, saying something bad had happened on King Road. 65 00:06:20,959 --> 00:06:27,839 Jasmine rushed over to Zanna's house. And while you're driving that eight nine miles 66 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,319 over to the house, are you trying to reach your sister? Then? 67 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,279 How many times do you call her? A lot? They called her at 68 00:06:34,879 --> 00:06:40,959 Her next call was to her father. Jeffrey had been visiting Jasmine for dad's 69 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,560 weekend and was on his way home. So you answered the phone. What 70 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:48,000 do you hear? You're kind of crying and just telling me to get back 71 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:58,680 to Moscow and meet me Zanna's house, and you know, my heart drops 72 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:08,000 instantly race back down earth. The house was cordoned off and swarming with investigators. 73 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,560 As soon as Jeffrey said he was Zanna's father, he and Jasmine were 74 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:17,560 escorted to the Moscow Police Department and Jasmine, What does the officers say to 75 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:25,600 you and your father? Oh? I remember exactly just that. Four people 76 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:32,199 passed way and the one was Sannah overstay your life is your worst name? 77 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:39,680 There? Do you sappen? Do you know? What do you do? 78 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,600 You can't hear damn thing. You can hear the rest of this episode on 79 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:49,040 the forty eight hours podcast, and if you're looking for more, go behind 80 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:54,319 the scenes with the new post mortem series. Every Tuesday, We're forty eight 81 00:07:54,360 --> 00:08:00,639 hours. 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