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Good morning, Welcome, Welcome,
welcome it. He's nine forty five.

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Time for Cherokee Chat. John Weston
is I studio? And John, you

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brought friends? You always bring friends. Well, I tried to tom Oco

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Nagata. So what's the son Ali? Hell? Everyone, and good morning.

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Welcome to another edition of Cherokee Chat. How are you Tom Did you

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get a chance to see the eclipse? Not directly? Yeah, yeah,

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I think that's probably bad advice to
look at it directly, right. I

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was actually doing something really peculiar.
I was in a movie being shot down

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in tul Us at the time.
They used the eclipse as part of the

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movie. Oh that's so we got
an extra twenty minutes for lunch. Oh

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that's cool. That's really cool.
So I know a lot of people who

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went down to see the eclipse in
the Totality pad. Oh yeah, Broken

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Bow and Arkansas and just everywhere.
And some of the comments that were making

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were things like, well, you
know, the bird song has trailed off,

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or the animals are acting a little
weird. But I really didn't notice

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that around here. I know,
our bird we're just kind of going crazy,

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just singing, you know, singing
their songs like they always do.

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I said of this, our birds
are having a concert out there, you

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know, so anyway we would be
in today's show. As always, I'd

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like to extend our thanks to our
sponsor, Cooperative Credit Union of Coffeeville,

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located through thirteen West ninth Street.
They're all about providing it with great personal

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their website at Cooperative CU dot com. As Lyle Martin, their president,

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says, our goal is to save
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Insured by NCUA. And speaking of
Lyle Martin Native American Fellowship, our Cherokee

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community in South Coffeville, of whom
I'm a member and and so as Lyle

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recently had an election for their boarder
directors. Lyle has served on that board

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in the past and he was elected
again in the board last week on the

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board last week along with Nicole Nolty. Because so congratulations to both of them.

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And while we're on the subject of
inn AFI today, I have with

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me the secretary and one of the
hosts of Fribred Journeys, Chris crane,

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Chris, how are you fine?
How are you doing? What did you

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guys do for the eclipse? Actually
I came home and I lived next to

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my mother, and she and her
buddy Jeanette, they go out every Wednesday

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for lunch. And they were setting
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an eighty year old woman, and
they were sitting on the front porch steps

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and they had one pair of eclipse
glasses between them, and they were changeing

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sweat, you know, back and
forth, switching, And I got a

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chance I looked, and then I
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they were just they'd gone out to
lunch and they were just sitting around hanging

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out. And I said, okay, so that was their adventure for the

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day. But I did sit over
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and I didn't notice anything. I
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I thought it got it. The
birds kind of got quiet little, but

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that was it. Yeah, I
don't know what. Our birds must have

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drank something. I guess they figured
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you know, it was dusk to
sleep. Yeah, well, I know,

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cherkey ate. They had enough clips
viewing party down at one Firefield,

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which is right next door to the
Tribal Headquarters Complex. Chief Brian Warren our

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Deputy Chief Brian Warner. He was
the MC of that event. They had

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games like stickball and speaker saw the
pictures. Yeah, it was. It

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was pretty cool and it reminds me. I need to mention this. Our

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giveaway this month. A prize word
for this broadcast is actually our giveaway this

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month is going to be the first
fire book by Brad Wagman. It's about

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how the Cherokee's obtained fire and in
honor of the eclipse, the prize word

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for this broadcast is going to be
the word the Cherokee word for son,

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which is the dough. And if
you don't know how to spell that,

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I'm going to hold it up here
on this piece of paper, so visual

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age. I love it. That's
right, So you can actually see that

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and know what to comment in the
comments section. So if you see our

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post on our Facebook page, be
sure to go ahead and put this in

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the comments so you can ear a
chance to win this book that's signed by

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Deputy Chief. Can I just put
the sun emoji? You know what?

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You can do that too. I'll
accept. That's a great idea. Have

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you noticed I posted for Frybread Journeys
and I'm just trying to advocate for our

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language. I get it. Coincidentally, this is the same word for moon.

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So anyway, but the Cherokees,
they have interesting beliefs about the eclipses,

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and they believe that a large frog
called a wallosi is eating the sun

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of the moon. Depending on whether
you know it's a a sonar, not

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a sonar, a solar or a
lunar eclipse, I'm combining those words.

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They go outside and they scream to
make noise, and they actually did that,

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done it our ceremonial ground. Some
of my friends were posting about that

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too, so they were kind of
carrying on the tradition. So anyway,

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switching gears for a bit, since
we have Chris for Frybread Journeys, let's

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go or just ask me anything.
Yeah, well, how long you've been

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doing the show up there in Coffee
bel It's been about a year. It's

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been about a year, and John
was on last month in March, and

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we do it with We do a
forty five minute one a month's show and

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my co host is Amy Dollar,
who is the Coffeeville Tourism director. So

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it's we got started because we used
to both be on the Historical Society for

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a Coffeeville and I was president for
me seventeen years or something, and we

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would get on once a month and
kind of chitty chat about things that were

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going on. And then when we
both left, my husband was upset because

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he liked listening to us. He
says, he doesn't like me talking this

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much, but believe it or not, so he wanted He said, I'll

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pay money. I'll pay money if
you guys are going on. So we

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were going to do a fifteen minute
show, and then Lyle Martin with Cooperative

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Credit Union he said, I'll pay
for fifteen minutes. And now Cherokee Nation

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is also a sponsor too, and
we're looking at somebody else maybe possibly,

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so we could go to one hour
month, which you have to come up

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with stuff what three times a month? Honestly exactly. I think that's it,

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miss him. We have to have
we got to get I do a

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fifteen minute a third Thursday and month. So this Thursday I call it Naffy

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Notes, and it's just me getting
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at Naffy, and then we do
Friybread Journeys the fourth Monday of the month,

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and it's it's nice. It affords
us time to have guests like John

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we had Chief Hoskin came on in
February, and Lyle has been on as

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a sponsor. And actually my husband's
birthday is Monday. And I told him

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he took off and I said,
well, guess what you can be on

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Friybread Journeys. And he said,
I don't know what to do. I

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said, you just all you got
to do is sit and smile at that

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camera and look pretty and let's just
say yes, honey to everything I say.

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Done done. And I think he's
going to bring some food for him

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though. Oh So I have a
question, because this is something I don't

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think we've ever really talked about.
How did you come to embrace your Cherokee

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culture? I mean, what started
you're getting involved in your Cherokee community.

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I think I've always known I was
Cherokee. In fact, I'm really big

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on genealogy, and my is too, and her mother who was Cherokee,

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and her father both her parents,
so my mom's maternal grandmother was on the

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Dows roll and her paternal grandfather was
on the DOS roll, so she had

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double I've had my card since I
was a kid. Talking around to my

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grandparents, I don't remember. My
grandmother was more Cherokee than my grandfather,

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but she didn't really talk as much
about it as a kid, but my

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grandfather did and was try and teach
us words quite often. And later on

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when I was older, I think
maybe that might have a lot to do

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with it. You know, when
I was a teenager, my grandmother would

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talk about tell us stories and tell
me some things I had never known.

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I remember brushing my hair. I
had long hair, brushing my hair in

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the car somewhere, and she said, you know, that's okay, don't

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ever do that in front of people. And I'm like, there's a belief

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that you know. She had a
belief about keeping your hair and your hair

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is a sacred thing. So there
were some things that she's told us about

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and stories and everything, and I
think she's always been very proud. Both

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my grandparents were very proud of their
Cherokee heritage. And then as I ended

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up working for the school district in
Coffeeville for almost thirty years, and I

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started out in Indian education, started
out as a secretary for the Indian Education

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Program. And when I ended and
retired a little over a year ago,

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I was the director of the Indian
Education Program. I wrote to grants,

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one of them is through Cherokee Nation
and Jowam Grant. And I would write

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the grants and implement them and spend
the money and sponsored junior high and high

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school Native American Club and had an
elementary after school program. And I still

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get to be involved with it even
though I'm retired long ago. Tell us

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a little bit about that. One
of the things we did was it was

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a I called it a Native American
Food Day, food Culture Day, and

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we would have people come up,
maybe teach basket weaving. It was really

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about food because honestly, I liked
to eat and I had company. I'm

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I'm a pretty decent cook, and
I make really good fry bread, though,

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and I make I made a great
chocolate cake that you had, and

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so I thought, you know what, this would be something that the kids

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could We could teach him a little
bit about how to make fry bread and

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the history of fry bread. And
I started doing that and Aaron Lee,

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who is now the Director of INDIANAD
took over for me. She has me

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come up and I went up there
the third of April and actually Cherokee Nation

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JOm program they sent a whole crew. Nol Grayson was one of them,

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and they played stickball and chunky with
the kids outside. It was kind of

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windy, but we had we had
hominy and pork soup and I made fry

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bread. They came in and watched
and some wanted to help and make some

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bread, and they really just wanted
to eat more than anything. So we

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were at an out large event in
Kansas City a few weeks ago and Noel

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Grayson he's one of the Cherokee National
Treasure and he is incredible. He has

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just got an extensive knowledge of all
sorts of things about how to make bows

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and arrows and blowguns, blowgun darts. And the coolest thing is he gets

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a group of kids up on the
stage and sets up a target and has

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them practice using blowguns. Some of
them have never used them before. But

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within what was it, say,
five minutes, Oh, you had some

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people kids that were proficient and actually
using blowguns. And then he yeah,

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he worked it down into like the
last you know, the ones that were

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still hitting the target that girl.
There was a young one girl, young

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girl there and she was she was
pretty good, she really was. I

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think she ended up winning the whole
thing. Yeah, it was. It

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was just fun to watch and they
got more and more excited about it,

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and they would move the target farther
and farther away to see how well they

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how they could do. They were
excellent and it is really good to get

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those kids engaged and to learn about
their culture. Absolutely, and that's one

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of the exciting ways to do it. I mean, you can sit there

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and do presentations, you know about
cultural ass specs, you know, all

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day long, but until you get
these kids hands on and evolved exactly,

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I mean, that's that's what really
fires their passion for about the culture.

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Oh yeah, it was great.
It was a lot of fun. And

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Bill Davis, some of the elders
came. We had Bill and I'm trying

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to think Harry Howard and some others
came up from Nafie and enjoyed lunch too,

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So it was it was for the
kids. Yeah, it was a

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lot of fun. Yeah. So
what you know, Naffi's always engaged,

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in active. So what sort of
plans does NAV have for the immediate future

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or what's on the horizon. I
know the Unity Gathering is coming up,

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and that's not until September, and
that would be September twenty eighth. It's

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always the last Saturday in September,
and it is a day of anybody is

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welcome to come. You don't have
to be Native. And as far as

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I'm concerned, there are no stupid
questions. As long as you ask questions

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respectfully and are not making a mockery
or trying to make fun of somebody,

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there is always room for that.
And we have oh gosh, we had

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we had free food that really goods
people out there. Why has it been

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this event? I mean, how
many people this It'll be the fifth year

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and the first year it's it was
COVID and we ended up having it at

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the side of the Brown Mansion in
Coffeeville because the Cherokee Nation Building CCO buildings

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were shut down because of COVID,
So we had it on the Kansas side

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and we had probably around three hundred
and fifty people, you know, just

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come and go. Then the next
year we were able to have it with

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restrictions at NAFI and I want to
say about five hundred and then the next

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year we had it and we're still
worried about COVID, but we're under and

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it was about seven hundred and then
last year we had over nine hundred people

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and it's we have and it's not
a pow wow. That's what I want

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to make it clear. It's not
a pow wow. There is this is

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this is just a unity gathering.
And there were dancers Indian sign language.

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Mike Pasatopa who's from Sepolpa did as
written a book on it and he did

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some dancing, and Ryan Mackey was
there. Levi Randall came from a Delaware

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tribe. Tribe. We've had Robert
Lewis who is a Cherokee Nation treasure storyteller.

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Tommy Wildcats played the flute. Matt
Wren who was Osage I believe from

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Independence and played the nephew of Will
a man killer. He had written a

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book called Walking in Balance and just
kind of helped people navigate through the modern

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world and maintain your mental health in
the process. And and also he taught

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stickball, and we had Chokey Nation
had a couple of little booths set up,

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you know, and you could play
chunky and there were some things but

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dancing and things. It was a
lot of fun. So anyway, I

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encourage everyone to check out our Cherokee
community Facebook pages, the Cherokee Cultural Community

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in Dewey, the Washington Kind of
Cherokee Association, your Osheleda, the Nuita

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Cherokee Community Foundation, and no One
in the Native American Fellowship at South Coffeeville.

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And I encourage every one of the
tune in to catch our next addiction,

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this of Cherokee Chat April twenty six
at eight thirty and the am I

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guess we'll be Stepur Or the president
of the Washington County Cherokee Association when we

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talk about the upcoming cultural celebration we're
going to be having on April twenty seventh.

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O to my guest Chris Crane and all

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of you Doda dog oh e until
we meet again. Alrighty, you have

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