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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, cats and dogs. It's another episode

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of ninety four feet podcasts. Your
boye exeking the Building. I'm here at

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uh Casey, those good, good
people. I'm also here with Dray.

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You know, America, you can
you can always tell the kind of mood.

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I'm gonna say it again, you
can always tell the movie he's in.

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Because we get to here with my
brother when he's not too annoyed,

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but then it's just first names.
When he's a little annoyed, you go

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there. I'm how you're gonna be
annoyed with me? Jo, I ain't

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did nothing to you? What y'all? And then y'all turn around you and

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just shot to whatever. I'd be
like, bro, why are you breaking

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me into it? He did it? I didn't do anything. What did

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I do? That's cool? Marry
Christ happy to be in the building with

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Zeke and Keith. How y'all doing, family, How y'all doing? Man?

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Going on? I'm great, man, I'm great. Great. We

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can't great n B A action.
You know what I'm saying? All good,

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bro Rick oh Man? All good? What's good? Everybody? What's

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good? Everybody? Like I said
before, it's ninety four feet podcasts.

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Usually I kicked it to Dre for
injury report. I'm honest with you.

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I was too tired to do it. I ain't gonna hold you. But

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that's what we do here. We
keep it one hundred on this podcast.

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Transparent, transparency, that's what we
do again. I try to be keeping

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it, you know, I try
to keep it like I don't do that.

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And then you got you know,
African Americans, they shot right away,

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no questions asked. It's cool.
Don I don't worry about it.

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Don't worry, good people. I'm
looking at the injury report of what's going

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on around the NBA. I don't
really see anything else. Say, he

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said he always took a shot,
so you know, it's a perfect time

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for me to throw in my shot
there. I should have played a little

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louder, played it at all.
You can't appreciate Broadway. You can't appreciate

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Broadway. Man. You didn't put
the injury report on man. Let's I

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didn't. Let's just move on.
Let's let's just move on. Lets anyways,

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we're gonna do around. We're gonna
do our shoot around segment. You

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talk about stuff going on around the
NBA. Anyways, Uh, the Los

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Angeles Lakers win the first ever end
season tournament by beating the Indiana Pacers one

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O three to one O seven.
Lebron James wins MVP. Rigged, rigged,

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rigged possibly maybe maybe not. I
predicted this last week. I predicted

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it two weeks ago. Yes,
I did. I was listening to ridiculous

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he did. I didn't. You
said the Bucks and the Lakers. After

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the Bucks and the Lakers, and
I said the Lakers would win it and

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Lebron would win mv P. I
didn't. I didn't in your kids.

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This is when you was ribbing me
about basketball scheduled to make forty million dollars

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guarantee contra team play. No,
I couldn't say nothing to my podcast.

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You already know that. But I
wasn't All Star Break. Yes, I

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was listening to it in the car. But here's the thing. I said,

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Bucks and Lakers the probably m v
P. I don't need to prove

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you. Go back and listen.
Keasey said the Lakers wouldn't be Phoenix.

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He had Phoenix, and then I
forgot how to both picked. I forgot

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who you picked. I had the
Bucks and that Boston. Yeah, Boston.

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I had the Bucks and the Lakers. I'm very end of the day,

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I said Bucks and the Lakers.
I'm very disappointed in the Bucks.

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I'm very disappointed in the You said, I don't think it's rigged. I

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told you, guys, when you
go back and listen, you gonna say

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Dre said it. I said.
Lebron shines in moments like this. He

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shines in moments like this. All
the cameras are on him. He's in

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Vegas where he wants to be a
owner. He looked like he was playing

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in his twenties again, because it
was a moment to do something that has

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never been done. I'm an all
time leading scorer. I'm going to be

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the first player that wins the end
season with they're calling championship right, they're

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calling it the tournament champions. They
got gold medals and an MVP Trophy.

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It just added to his greatness.
There was no way that Lebron was not

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going to go into Vegas and not
come out victorious. Because you know what,

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Bron and the Lakers. Let's not
just count out his team. Because

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Ad was balling, Austin Reeves was
balling it, all were playing Okay,

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Lebron James and the Lakers treated this
nd season tournament like the playoffs, and

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that's what the NBA was looking for. That's what they were looking for.

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And they just set an example of
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to the Ncason Tournament if you want
to win. They did a hell of

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a job, a genius. I'm
not gonna lie. They did a heck

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of a job Garden Halibert, which
slowed Indiana down a whole lot. Otherwise

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Indiana would probably have beat them rigged, but they put size on Halibert and

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then was a big distraction to what
he normally does. Why do you keep

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saying rig You ever gave any stacks
or proof why this is rigged? Rigged?

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How rigged? How rigged? You
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by. Darvin Ham did a great
job coaching rigged. Hats off to Darvin

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Ham. It just reminded me of
I was watching my nephew and them played

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a couple of nights ago, and
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He was just lighting up lights out
everybody they put on him. They

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put my nephew on them, which
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four. The guard is about maybe
six foot at the most. Size makes

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a difference. When you're guarding a
top caliber guard, you're gonna have to

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put size for them to make a
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the Lakers did a good job of
that by putting Cam Reddish and Vanderbilt Mohalibert,

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which made a lot of his shots
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games during the season, and it
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Question, both of y'alls in job
so high on all Lakers. Do you

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think if this would have went like
let's say, a three game series,

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it had been the same. So
that's where I'm not gonna comment because it's

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not the playoffs. That's the playoffs. I'm saying, that's the player.

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I asked the question, what do
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the question because because one game,
my question to you is you're devaluing the

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accomplishment. I ask question one question
to you. You're devaluing it? Why

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are you so? What do you
call it? I still I'm not even

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not even the word I'm looking for. It's what's not a word critical of

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the there's another word he's looking for. While you so, you're you're so

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critiquing the system of something that you
knew was gonna be the system going into

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this. Why do we got to
critique it now? Why not just except

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they won? Move on, let's
get ready for I just asked playoff.

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Do you think three games? We
can't? If it was a fift we

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all be drunk. Yeah, you
said that. That's he's he's saying.

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I am asking a question. Do
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series it would turn out the same. Yes, against the Pacers, it

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might be as sweet. It might
be a three games sweet, might be

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as sweet. I don't think so. Well, that's okay. Here's the

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thing. Not only did the Lakers
beat the Pacers, they beat them badly.

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Not only did they beat New Orleans, they made New Orleans look like

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they didn't belong at all. So
here's the thing. So the Lakers earned

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this in season tournament. I'm not
here's my thing. And as far as

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being it rigged or whatever, I'm
not gonna have a I'm glad you asked,

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because I got this, moved this
right here, and then this and

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such and such as such. I
didn't. I'm not. I don't have

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that. That's why I said rig
I didn't say, man, this team

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sucks, I said, I said
rigged as in believing in conspiracy theories and

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all that kind of stuff. Should
curry now. Anyway, the point I'm

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making it I don't I believe that. I do. I watch the game.

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The Lakers had a really good plan. Darvin Hamm really coached a really

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good game. I asked that question
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have to play these teams one time. When you have to play somebody one

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time, it does bring the pressure
and it does changes how you approach the

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game. So that's why I asked
the question. So you can go like,

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let's say Milwaukee would have lost the
first game. They might have They

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probably would have. I think they
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or B beat these guys the next
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what I'm saying. That's why I
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trying to diminish what the Lakers accomplished. I'm just asking if do you think,

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if this is a three game series, it would have went there to

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beat them? Still, I don't
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know. I don't know, but
I don't think they would have. But

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I don't know. Just because Anthony
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don't think he's gonna do that consistently. So that's one of the things why

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I ask that question, because that's
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one of the main reasons they won. Yeah, but Anthony Davis doesn't have

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to put up forty and twenty consistently
against the Pacers. It's the Pacers,

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Okay, Halliburton. The Pacers are
top five teams here. The Pacers are

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moving the ball, they're shooting it
at a high percentage, and they're young.

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So when you say and it's they
say it's the Indiana Pacers. East

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Indiana Pacers beat the Bucks not once
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them again. So have the Raptors. So what's your point. My point

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is, like I said before,
Andy Davis is not putting up forty and

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twenty on consecutive basis for one good
game he can give you. So here's

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the thing. The New Orleans Pelicans
and the Pacers. I was glad to

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see different teams in it. I
am. I was very glad to see

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that the Pacers knocked off our Bucks. Uh, New Orleans knocked off was

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it Sacramento? Two predictions that I
that I was wrong on. Uh,

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But you can't call it rigged.
It's just Lebron is built for this.

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He's for it. He's built for
the He Casey says it all the time.

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Not everybody's meant to be in the
stars, right, Not everybody's meant

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to be in the spotlight. Bron
eats this stuff up. There was no

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way King James was going into Las
Vegas to lose to a team that were

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probably in his basketball camp, or
in high school or just being born when

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he was coming into the NBA.
There was no way this was gonna happen.

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I was listening to the Paul uh
to Kevin Garnet and the Lebron Hater

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podcast, and even Kevin Garnet,
in all his critical news had to snap

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on PGE for not acknowledging that Lebron
James is the top five player still in

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the NBA. The reason that the
Los Angeles Lakers won the nd Season Tournament

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is because Lebron James was the best
player in Vegas over these four days,

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I think the I think Los Angeles
Lakers won this because it was a simple

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one game elimination. That's what I
think. That is a regular season game.

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And it just added the titles regular
season game one and done. And

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now we got that out of the
way. What do you think of this

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performance? What do I think of
Lebron James performance at his age? It's

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always amazing at his age, always
amazing. Is he is he still a

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top five player? I mean I
can name probably five players better than Lebron

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James right now, but name five
Luca, Jason Tatum better than them.

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They're better than Lebron right now.
And I ain't giving up Luca maybe,

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but definitely, honest, definitely,
KD, definitely, Joker. I't even

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say Joe. Maybe maybe Joker.
Once you get past once you get past

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them to everybody is suspect. You
call it what you want to call it.

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Yeah, I'm telling you right now, Giannis one, Joker too,

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Lebron's Steph probably three four and that
could be interchange right it's right now in

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the league looking at play, Lebron
and Curry are still top five. You

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want to say whatever you want to
say, you know what's funny about that.

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The thing about that is every year
they come with top hundred hundred players,

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top one hundred every year, Lebron
James not on that list, and

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it's disrespectful. They hate him,
how they hate him. The last three

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four days, that's all we've been
hearing about. Le Bron James at this

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age is amazing, fir. The
point is when it comes to everybody,

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when he comes to his rankings,
he's not there. But why do you

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think that is? Because he's not
what because he's not a top five flaritymore

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he puts from the performance like he
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he's still not a top five,
which Luca didn't make, which Tatum didn't

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make, but any other superstar you
want to call didn't make. You know,

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what to think about the Nason Tournament
is it's still in season. When

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it comes to Lucas got no ring, Tatum ain't got no rings. His

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keep going were you talking about were
you talking about Lebron James resume. Yes,

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these guys don't add up, but
we're talking about guys who can take

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their team to another level. Lebron
James is forty years old and still the

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best player on the Los Angeles Les, which he isn't supposed to be,

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but he has to be. He
has to be for them to be even

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slightly relevant. And the thing about
it is this East Season tournament is a

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in But what does that tell you
though? If he still if he's almost

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forty years old, then he can
still make his young team k went win

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and picked up four superstars to hit
him, and they're still not relevant.

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They got superstar money, of course
they do. Everybody do. It's the

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NBA, everybody getting baid Man.
Whatever you say, man, what's what's

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what's what's Phoenix record? Right now? What Phoenix looking like? I just

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want to prove a point because the
only time Lebron and them is not Lebron's

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team is not relevant is when they
loaded with injuries. Kind of like how

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Phoenix is right now. They loaded
with injuries, so they record don't look

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HOWE twelve and ten, so they
record don't look NOWE should look right.

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They're a playing tournament right now.
I'm just saying, records don't look right

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when your team is injured. Every
year that Lebron team doesn't look relevant is

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because they're injured. I don't think
that's true. So I'll go back and

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look, I'll say this. I'll
say this, the one thing that is

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gonna hurt Lebron with this. Winning
the nd Season Tournament now, I believe

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has now set the championship expectations high. So now if you don't come and

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do this in the playoffs, now
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that N Season Tournament don't mean jack
right, because they still say it

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don't mean the thing without the ring. What I'm happy about is players at

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the end making a million dollars now
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You know what I'm saying. So
players who don't make big money get

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a chance to make a little money. They get a chance to celebrate.

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They got medals. Now they have
an nd season turf Trophy. The NBA

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pulled out all the stops with this
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we were like, what, no
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I think this was I think the
way it was marketed, and it

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did bring it did He accomplished his
goal in bringing excitement to the beginning of

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the season and revenue. Yeah,
but excitement to the season to me when

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I seen the floor in Las Vegas. Honestly, I wasn't too impressed.

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But I'm like whatever, but still
I just wasn't. No, clearly,

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especially when it comes to Lebron.
It's not just Lebron. I'm just not

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thinking. No, when it comes
to Lebron, you're not impressed at all.

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You're overly impressed. That's the problem, because he's great and people need

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to recognize this greatness and stop hating
on every little thing that they can hate

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one A right, go ahead,
I don't care what you're saying, Adam

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Silver. I mean the whole weekend
was Mark right, Like inside the n

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B A and First Take did Assignment
CASTZ right, So they were on each

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other show. It's one it's one
game, and that was great. That

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was great. They did it Thursday
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I'm saying it's one game instead of
it instead of the NBA usually stretching

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this stuff out, you know,
whatever, seven game series, it was

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one game, one time, so
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No, I don't think it was
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It was plaid. Each team played
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Like it wasn't. It wasn't.
On top of that, it wasn't a

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situation where uh NBA countdown does it
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like, oh, we got to
combine the the the two. I just

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feel like, like I said before, Lebrin James, fine, hey,

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Rudy to you when to go.
But at the end of the day,

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if you ain't bringing home a real
Lombardi, a real we got a few

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of them. M Marti, Bro, that's the NFL. I mean,

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Larry, Larry O'Brien. You ain't
bringing up he ain't bringing in the real

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Larry Brian feeling you feeling good for
them? Put that next to the shelf,

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Put it on the shelf and keep
it moving. Go to go to

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Brinnie. James matter of fact shot
out to him he started his first when

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he had start, but he played
his first game, Jordan. Anyways,

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the point is that's cool, wrap
it up and just keep it moving.

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Russell got ten What okay, I'm
just saying, he throwing out the sky

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is blue? Man, why you
got don't don't don't don't don't don't come

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down on Mike because he coming down
on Lebron. I'm not coming down on

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Mike. I'm just saying, I'm
just throwing out numbers. Numbers. You

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always gotta be just let it be
the whole time. You get to talk

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about like his feelings hurt. That's
what's wrong with America right now. They

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don't they don't want to embrace Lebron
because they're so stuck on Michael Jordan.

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What KG said it BESTO, here
we go. I'll better embrace this greatness

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that's going on right now. I
bet I've always said it. I'm this

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greatness that's going on right now.
Embrace this, be right, embrace it,

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Embrace it for what. Now,
let's talk about the losing team Pacers.

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This is they're coming out party,
I think do I think this is

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they're coming out party, and they
I think it was more important for them

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to win it. The Los Angeles
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Why this was the Milwaukee Bucks have
a problem party. I don't think that

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because the Bucks. We should have
the Yeah, the Bucks should have won.

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They should have beat the Pacers.
At one point I was watching,

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they were up by almost twenty going
into the four fine and to come back

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and lose the way they lost.
Reports are coming out that Bobby Porty's had

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some words with Griffin. Uh.
Again, it's on the coach. It's

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on the coach to say that the
Buck's on the d that's fine, But

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I can't focus on that because you're
saying Indiana's coming out party. No,

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Indiana got lucky because the Bucks drives. The Boss sees the thing. If

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you said, rig goes okay,
no, just like you said, rigged,

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rigged, Just like you said,
like the Bucks, the Bucks got

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outplayed the fact that the fact that
the Lakers is like, we'll just just

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do real disrupt their pick and roll. And to be honest with you,

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Tayrese Haliburg shot is ugly. The
fact that they ain't being blocked on a

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consecutive on a consecutive basis blows my
mind. But Vanderbilt and Camp represented the

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job on that shot. They did. They young, They act the athletic,

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they're on top of it. We
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he's slow. He forty, he's
he's slow coming off the screen. So

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yeah, Halliberg got an open shot. My thing is about to me,

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to me, to me, I
don't want to focus on the disappointment of

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the Bucks. It was to me, it was more because this ain't the

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first time they beat the Bucks.
This is the second time they beat the

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Bucks, and both times they beat
him, they beat him with being young,

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athletic and the fact that this Indiana
team is I ain't gonna say thrown

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together, how to thrown together,
but put the weather, they're put together.

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They run the ball, they shoot
really well. And you got Hallibert

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who's not doing he's not doing turnovers
at an alarming or rate, doing like

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I think he had like fifteen.
I want to see how they learn when

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you get the game forty. Like
I told you first twenty five, you

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keep pushing that back because at first
it was game twenty to twenty five.

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Now we're there, now it was
game forty. Which one I said,

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I said, you keep pushing it
back. I said, after game twenty,

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you'll see people starting to slow down. Let's see what they record look

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like when they at game forty.
So now because they were at twenty,

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we had twenty. Everybody got they
run in. They fresh legs, they

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fresh bodies, no injuries, no
nothing, lots of injuries. I'm saying

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now the injuries kick in when you
get the game twenty twenty five, thirty

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thirty five, forty that's what most
of the injuries kick in for the NBA

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season five thirty five, forty seven. All about the Benjamin's baby man.

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So, speaking of twenty five,
then John Moran kids come back this week

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he does, he gets to come
back. I don't know if that's gonna

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save their season. No. I
mean that's a big thing to crawl out

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of. And I bring that up
to say to the point, you can't

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keep pushing it back. If you
don't have it at twenty five, you're

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not gonna have it at forty.
Okay, the season gets tougher, but

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that's not easy. But that's what
I'm saying. I'm going back to what

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Utah did. Remember they started out
that first twenty five games slamming everybody killing.

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By the time they got the forty, they was already in the playing

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and by the time they got the
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And then by the time they got
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No, I'm trying to tell you
something to make a point, and

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yet you're not listening with your sun
know your point is the season gets harder

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and people get get it does get
harder. That's the whole point. We

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know that. Okay, y'all,
relax, that's my whole point. I'm

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trying to get my point. I'm
trying to still. I see what you're

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saying. But the point you're making
is obvious. The point of the point

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of predictions is not to say,
oh, fifty games, Oh I knew

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this team was gonna do this.
I told y'all fifty games in I see

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that reminds I told you that.
No, I get it. But at

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the end of the day, that's
the point of making predictions. The fact

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that Indiana is in the top five, they're usually not there. They didn't

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make the play in last year,
and they didn't make the playoffs. That's

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He's right, said he, I
promise you when he is that crazy kick

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crazy, he said, Lebron James
is gonna have is going to uh lead

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the league with a for a couple
of years before so before some people recognize

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how he is. I don't think
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You are not, because if you
was, if you knew how great he

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is, you'd be more of finding
congratulating him on the things he just did.

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Rather than criticizing what he just did
serious, he criticized everything about the

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playing that Lebron did. I'm saying, this is what I'm saying about Lebron

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James as my criticism about Lebron James
forty years old and everybody said he played

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like he was twenty. Just because
hold on, just because you start walking

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at one years old, that don't
mean I'm gonna start praising everything you do

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for the rest of your life.
You don't have to praise them. You

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just said that. You just said, I'm not praising him for what he

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just did. I just think you
are, at Takisi's defense, you are

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a little overly critical of Lebron about
everything. I'm not about everything. Yes,

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even when they want in the bubble. Man, you was riding them

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when they wanted the bubble. First
of all, I'm the thro person who

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said about the bubble. But to
think about it, I mean the fact

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that he ain't win it. Sentence, Hey, it says a lot,

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but don't because I'm saying I would
say this, this is end season tournament

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worked in Lebron james favor, because, like I said before, it's one

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thing to go against the team one
time and show out. But it's a

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different thing to be in a series. That's why we had the seven game

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series in the playoffs because things can
turn around quickly. So you think the

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NBA did this as a favorite to
Lebron. I don't think it did it

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as a favor, but I think
it. This just works in Lebron,

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and Lebron willhouse. This works in
it not even the big light. I'm

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just talking about, Oh I gotta
play this team one time. Oh okay,

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I can just give you forty one
time and move on to the next

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team. But what but take your
time. It's not just he did it

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one time. He did it the
whole playing They played two or three games.

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Really they played like ten because you
got to think about all season season.

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That was part of the season.
Yeah, but it will still consider

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a play. They played two okay
twice, I mean, but that's just

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like playing hustle on the court,
right, you lose, you get off

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the court. Yeah, I get
it. I'm not what I'm saying is

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did this or did this not work
in lebron Days favor? It worked in

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his favor, but it worked in
anybody show It should have worked it worked

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in anybody's work at everybody favor because
the teams we thought were should have been

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there, they weren't there. So
so huh why they wasn't there? What

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do you mean why they win?
They had a bad night, you know

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what I mean? I had a
bad night for ten games, because it

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takes ten. The play in was
Judge on War. You're to win four

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games in your group to make it
there, to make it to the semifinals,

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to make it to Vegas, you
have to win four games. Lebron

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and James won four games. I
wasn't back to back four games. It

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was periodically twice a week Tuesday Friday. You win those games. Then a

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couple of weeks I think the next
following week again or two weeks you play

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again Tuesday Friday, and then you
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So, like I said before,
you play these teams in your group

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twice, okay, and you're not
even playing them on a back to back,

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you're playing them periodically. Okay.
So what I'm saying when I said

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work in Lebron James favor. Lebron
and James and the Los Angeles Lakers play

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Denver in the seven game series.
How many games they win that series?

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They won one game? Correct,
Yeah, but that was one game and

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it what happened. They got swept. No, they didn't win at all.

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They got swept because they did not. They got smoked. When they

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played the Nuggets, they got swept
after they won one game. They got

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I'm sorry. The team that won
one game was the Miami Heat. Okay,

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the Miami won one game, but
they they got swept. Okay.

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So my point is it's different when
if you have one game to win,

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it's all on the table. Well, I don't so, Zeke. I

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don't think it's that. I just
think it's where we are in the season

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now. If we had to,
if we had another perspective, if we

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had a mid season tournament, that's
another perspective, then you might be like,

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yeah, maybe this is not as
rigged as I think it is.

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Because now in the mid season,
players have these miles on their body,

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they're tired, the back to backs
are picking up the schedule, right,

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you know, you think about the
Lakers, so well, here this is

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what I will say. I won't
say rig but I would say the schedule

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was a little favorable only because Vegas
and la are on the same time frame.

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Yeah, okay, whereas you know
Indiana the bucks two year, two

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hour difference, which makes a difference
in the by it does. But let's

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give Lebron his flowers. I'm not
saying I'm putting on the show Lebron James

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fire. Hey, great show.
He won, he won, he won

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MVP. He and we should go
next year. I mean, he won,

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he won, we should go.
Congratulations. You know it was one

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of the things. Yes, it
is Terrence. It was brilliant. It

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was brilliant. I mean brilliant.
Like I said, it was exciting.

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Like you said first when we first
heard about this, this is stupid,

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but it was exciting. It turned
out to be excited, and I think

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if you like basketball or you love
basketball, it's going to be excited.

405
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.319
He played both better than most twenty
and thirty year rows. Just play just

406
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:01.960
playing time. Congratulations, kick crazy, You and Kesey are in the two

407
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:08.559
p's in the pot, two pie's
and a congratulations. Yeah, that's a

408
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:13.519
good point. I think this is
a great kick off to Christmas because the

409
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:17.920
casual fan does start watching it because
like baseball, unless you're like NBA fiends,

410
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:23.400
like I'm a fanatic. The basketball
season is long. Eighty two games

411
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:28.759
is a long time. I'm watching
all season. I always do as a

412
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.079
league pass holder, I always do. But the point is, I'm gonna

413
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:36.640
give you some props. Yes,
that what I said, Casey. You

414
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:40.480
gotta leak, you don't pay attention, you gotta leave I do. Wow,

415
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.119
we'll talk about that. You can't
get any Bucks games though, because

416
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.440
they block them, they black them
out. I know, but I'm just

417
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.400
just find it interesting. It's on
local television. Yeah, it came with

418
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.079
the scene tickets. I told you
that. To your point, you got

419
00:32:55.119 --> 00:33:00.359
it. Yeah, I ain't paying
for it. Few the point that Kesey

420
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:06.200
was making, the NBA season is
long. The teams that are in the

421
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.000
top five right now may not be
in the top five in twenty games.

422
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:15.039
So it is as great as Indiana
was in this end season tournament. So

423
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:16.559
they might finish seventh. But first
of all, I think for bringing it

424
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:22.839
back. So you're saying no threat, no to nobody, to nobody,

425
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:32.359
to nobody, to nobody, totally
agree to nobody. They're not a threat

426
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:36.599
to nobody. Halli Burton is a
good you know what this reminds me of

427
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.480
and I hope I'm not cursing Halliburton. Halle Burton, I'm very proud of

428
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:45.960
you representing the state holding it down
for the drake us real quick. I'm

429
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:51.039
not finishot him out the wiscons because
he ain't no real from scot and he

430
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.759
from Oscott, but Oscotch. But
god, here's the thing. Hold on,

431
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:58.920
sayon, here's the thing that irritated
me about when he was talking about

432
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:00.559
it. He looks like Devin Hare
is number one. But go ahead,

433
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.799
that's funny. But he said,
He's like, well, I really wasn't

434
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:07.920
a Bucks fan like that growing up. I came, you know, I

435
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.800
came to watch the games when Lebron
James came to town. Are did you?

436
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.679
Son? But what's wrong with that? I don't like that? What's

437
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.280
wrong with that? Either? You
rep the see that you don't don't.

438
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:21.199
He's not from Milwaukee, he's from
Wiscon. Do you wrap the Packers?

439
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:25.119
Okay? Then point okay, so
you have to rep the bucksh talking out

440
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.159
just because I wrot the packers.
I wrepped the brewers, and I wrecked

441
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.760
the Bucks when it's convenient, No
for the brewer, when it's convenient Isaiah,

442
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:36.280
you been here wearing Chicago White Sox
hacks. We're gonna do that real.

443
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.719
Have you ever seen me were another
sports basketball players, basketball teams hat.

444
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:45.199
I've seen you were nigga on the
bed so apparently again exactly so,

445
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.639
I wasn't wearing a Lakers hat,
but you're anyway that has something to do

446
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.039
with nothing. You maybe missed my
point, the whole point of this pace.

447
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.400
I just wanted to put that out
there. And he ain't know Wisconsin

448
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:59.440
like, he ain't know Wisconsin represented
to you like that. He's no Wisconsin

449
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.760
Rep. Okay, But what the
Pacers are doing reminds me of the year

450
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:12.280
that they had the Paul George and
what's the other guy named Danny Greener Danny

451
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:16.480
Granger coming out party. It's hot
for now and people will forget about them

452
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:22.320
when the playoffs come. The Pacers
are no threat to the Eastern Conference.

453
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:28.639
They're barely in fifth place, barely. Halla Burden is a star, he

454
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.239
might even he should be an All
Star. The Pacers should ink him to

455
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:37.880
a big deal before someone else does. But the Indiana Pacers are no threat

456
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:43.679
to anybody in the NBA, not
one team. This is what I want

457
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:45.480
to say to that, not one
team. This is what I want to

458
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:46.800
say to that. This is what
I want to say to that. Say

459
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:52.079
what you go to say when teams
like this come along and we be like

460
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.400
they're no threat, they're no threat, they're no threat. And then the

461
00:35:54.559 --> 00:36:00.920
teams, the teams who are bless
your brother, bless you. The teams

462
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:02.760
who are supposed to be a threat, the teams who are supposed to be

463
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.639
dominating the East, they're not.
The cell Ticks are number one, the

464
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.719
Bucks are three, the Sixers are
four. What do you mean they're not.

465
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:17.440
I'm saying it's in my pocket.
God. But the point is that

466
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:25.519
these teams are. But the way
I'm just seeing you had a point like

467
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:32.679
you use it that should be.
But my point is that I'm just not

468
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:36.599
gonna take I'm just not gonna uh. Every year, we also have a

469
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:42.519
team that surprises everyone. Yeah,
and that's the Miami Heat in the Eastern

470
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.559
Conference. And this is the thing
exactly. People don't give it to you

471
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:50.159
until you do something. So I'll
give you that, but like I said

472
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.639
before, like I said to Kisi, I'm not gonna give it to you

473
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:54.719
after you then did something like hey, I see I see you like I

474
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.519
see the Indiana Pacers. Y'all doing
stuff. Y'all beaten teams. You're not

475
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.159
supposed to beat y'all in a position
you're supposed to be in. So I'm

476
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:07.440
like, Okay, I see y'all. I rather apologize like I had to

477
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:12.440
do the Denver Nuggets than to say, yeah, they're gonna be dope,

478
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:16.559
no show me in twenty games and
the nd season tournament is as good as

479
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:21.440
it was with the Lakers, I'm
not impressed. I'm sorry, Bucks should

480
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.000
have one, but I'm not impressed
with the Indiana Facers. I'm not.

481
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:28.599
I'm not, and you shouldn't be. I'm not. I mean, I'm

482
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:37.000
not impressed by the lost Lakers,
and I shouldn't be. Uh, I'm

483
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:40.639
not impressed by the Bucks and we
should be. That was saying for Buckstock,

484
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:47.360
thank you. Going to like I
said before, Casey the other thing

485
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.880
every year, and he'd be like, twenty twenty third games, you can't

486
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:53.760
really judge nobody. M dum dumb, dump dump dumb. So we're doing

487
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:59.079
predictions about twenty games in we're doing
some predictions. Is that okay? What

488
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.159
you do? Yeah, we're ty
three games then actually is that okay with

489
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:05.920
you give me some endiction. Thank
you. I appreciate that. Man.

490
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:10.159
You both have one really dope winter
Bucks knits. I just want to say

491
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:15.239
that, appreciate it. Yeah,
you're welcome, You're welcome. First prediction.

492
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:25.639
M v pas. Hey, I
want to say this is too.

493
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:30.719
We're thinking about m v P.
Shout out to Jordan Love on this NBA

494
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:36.960
podcast. What for coming into the
coming into his own man. We was

495
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.239
hard on Jordan Love, man,
and I still am a little bit.

496
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:44.159
We were on Jordan. I have
a you know what, I'm not gonna

497
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:45.840
say you have i' even talking about
I don't even care if we make the

498
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:49.679
playoff. I'm just talking about him
coming into his crack. That's it.

499
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.599
Cut the crap. You've got to
make the playoffs. There's no love for

500
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.840
Jordan Love. Let's just cut the
crack. Don't don't do that. Don't

501
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:58.679
do that, dred because you do
that when it comes to the packers.

502
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.760
Don't do that. Shut up.
You don't can make the playoff. Cut

503
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:05.079
the crap. No, cut the
crackause don't make the playoffs. Here's why,

504
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:09.119
you know, here's why you fact
that he is giving y'all some light

505
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:14.960
with the one of the easiest schedules
in the NFL. Easy, we beat

506
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.960
the Chiefs, one of the easiest, beat the Lions. Relaxed. Top

507
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:24.079
two teams and the top two teams. Ye I ain't beat the Eagles.

508
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:31.559
We ain't played them. You ain't. Okay, so relax, So playoffs.

509
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:36.440
I don't want us to make the
playoffs to get balanced. We're six

510
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:38.960
and six. We're six and six. A six and sixteen doesn't deserve to

511
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:43.159
make the playoffs. But I can
still give Jordan Love some love because the

512
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:47.199
last three games his his stats are
comparable to Jaalen Hurts. Let's just move

513
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.360
on, okay, all right,
one of these you know what, one

514
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:52.719
of these days, I'm gonna throw
this out here. One of these days,

515
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:59.440
for one episode only, we should
have a NBA special NFL podcast,

516
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:05.119
just one one episode, one episode, just talk about the NFL, talk

517
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.440
about our Now. This is after
this is after the UH Packers don't make

518
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:13.199
the playoffs, right, I think
it should be right before you know,

519
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:16.519
when a wild card weekend comes a
prediction machine, whether they make it or

520
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.800
not is what we'll do. We'll
do that right before last season, last

521
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:25.400
game of the season, we'll take
a look at the studs and stand in

522
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:30.559
the NFL special. So, so
to answer your question for me, the

523
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:35.440
at twenty three games in the MVP
of the NBA right now is a joker?

524
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:38.360
Really? At twenty three games in
the m v P right now is

525
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:45.599
Joker? Why stats? His stats
have not changed since they gave it to

526
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:47.679
NB last Let's talk about this.
Let's talk about stats have not changed.

527
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:51.599
I know they have a Let's talk
about this real quick. Are they ever?

528
00:40:53.400 --> 00:41:00.159
Why is Michael Jordan the greatest?
I'm asking why is herely regarded is

529
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:05.480
the greatest. He has elevated the
game. I't even talking about of a

530
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.960
financial level. I'm just saying he
elevated the game to a different level to

531
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:13.800
where Okay, Phil, that's the
stop, that's the philosophical answer. Would

532
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:20.199
you say earlier to Kesey when he
said Lebron has four rates, you said

533
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.840
Michael got six? Okay, Michael
got six? Has he beat the best?

534
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:30.480
He always won? If Joker has
the best stats every year, why

535
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:37.039
shouldn't he get MVB. Before you
answer Kesey in your opinion, how no,

536
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:44.960
how many MVPs should Lebron James have
right now? Yes, at least

537
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:50.239
five. I would say six to
eight. I would say six to eight,

538
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:58.119
at least five. Joker so far
should be going in leading on his

539
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:02.719
fourth MVP. Only should it be
his fourth, it should be his fourth

540
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.280
straight. That's okay, I just
real quick before you go on, Okay,

541
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.239
I just want to say that I'm
saying Joker right, this is what

542
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:14.360
I'm saying about that that that way
of going about it, or a way

543
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:17.719
of thinking about it. If you
have the same stats every single year,

544
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:22.719
that's just what you do. Even
with Lebron James. If you have the

545
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:27.159
same stats every single year, or
around the same stats every year, that's

546
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:31.239
just what you do. That means
I have to take a wider look around

547
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:37.920
the NBA to see who is having
a spectacular season. That's who I believe

548
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:44.320
the MVP. But that's why I
believe the MVP should go to a person

549
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:49.159
who is expectacular season. And to
be really honest with you, to be

550
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:57.360
really honest with you, If the
Indiana Pacers are top five in the when

551
00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.559
it's all said and done, they
top five, whether they lose in the

552
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.280
first round, second round, third
or you know, I finals or whatever

553
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:06.880
case may be, Tarry's Alibert should
be in a conversation. He's already in

554
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.440
the conversation. Low conversation. But
to break your point on why Joker is

555
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:14.280
my MVP right now? At twenty
three games in, Joker is the only

556
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:19.440
player averaging the near near triple double. And that's what he do twenty nine,

557
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:24.840
thirteen and nine point eight assists a
game that's almost ten assists. Okay,

558
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:29.360
he's the only player averaging game near
triple double. That's why he's my

559
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:45.159
current MVP. Casey, who you
got my current MVP right now? I'm

560
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.760
liking Anthony Edwards right now. He's
not even in the running. And that's

561
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.079
the thing. The league doesn't do
that They go by household names, and

562
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:55.320
no they don't. I'm saying,
like, you gotta give these other players.

563
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.960
It's the same name, the same
household names. You hear every year

564
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:07.320
every janis Joker and yeah Lebron Steph
before that, I you know, honest

565
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:14.000
with you, before ten games in, Steph, it's changed. But stph,

566
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:16.559
I see what you're saying. You're
right, usually same five names,

567
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:21.199
rotation of them, no matter how
how your stats look. For any other

568
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:25.960
player, if you're not that top
household name. You're not getting the vote,

569
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.400
okay. And my thing is,
and I like the way you're going

570
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:35.199
with direction you're going because you're picking
somebody different, which I commends you on.

571
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.159
I don't think, I think to
me, he to me, because

572
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:44.000
you're saying the most valuable player right
yeah, you're right. Most valuable player

573
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.159
to their team right now is Anthony
Edwards. And on top of that,

574
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:52.800
to go to your argument, the
Timberwood are number one team in the West

575
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:54.639
right now, number one one one
team in the West right now, and

576
00:44:54.719 --> 00:45:00.800
that's because of Edwards. I'm not
gonna to get it to but look,

577
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:06.039
look at Denver's record. He got
those numbers, but they down there on

578
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:12.960
the border of being five hundred.
Who uh, Denver, Denver, I'm

579
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:19.400
talking about cat. You know what
I'm saying. Fourteen and nine. That's

580
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:24.599
five more losses than Minnesota. Yeah
it is, Yeah, it is Minnesota's.

581
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:28.599
And we'll talk about But okay,
let me give your mind real quick.

582
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.039
You know what, I have so
many different but I'm a miss trust

583
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:35.880
they got the same record as the
Lakers. I'm messing with that. Key,

584
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:38.960
go Anthony Edwards. I like that
you're messing with that I'm messing with

585
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:45.320
that you date you in and that
he you have. Hey, let me

586
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.480
tell you something. Ay Everwards is
an uper coming star. He's an upper

587
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:52.119
coming star. So then why is
it he's on the number one team for

588
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:53.920
now? He's the number one team. You're the main one who said this.

589
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:58.599
You've been saying this for years,
since we've been doing this. You

590
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:01.840
said it's the most valuable player to
their team. Right, is joker not

591
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:07.719
the most valuable player? He's on
the team, he's playing and it's still

592
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.760
fourteen to nine. I'm messing with. But I will say this, Uh,

593
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:16.000
Jamal Murray was hurt for a while, but I'm just saying it was

594
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:22.199
gonna put out. So then is
Jamal Murray that is a uh you know

595
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:27.320
what I'm saying? Is it Jamal
and the Denver Nuggets is a joker in

596
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.639
the Denver Nuggets? And you know
it's the funny things. Like I said

597
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:35.760
before, it we're looking at it
from Dray perspective. He's a triple almost

598
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:37.960
tripled up. If he's not a
triple double, he's damn near a triple

599
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.880
double every night. That's the last
four years doing it. For four years

600
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:45.039
has been doing the same thing for
four years. Dang the triple double every

601
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:50.960
night and it got him what one
one one to back to back and he

602
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:52.480
wonted Player of the Year with the
m v P. Here's the the first

603
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.320
player to do that his MIC and
he earned it. I heard it.

604
00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:00.679
I'm like it was, like I
said before, that's in the league.

605
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.440
But what I'm saying, like I
said before, that's what these people do.

606
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.519
And that's why people it's hard to
give somebody MVP three years in a

607
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:12.880
row because this is just what they
do. And to me, last year,

608
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.760
I think Joker should have won it
and b you know, he wanted

609
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:19.679
fine whatever, and he didn't get
hurt at the end of the year,

610
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.800
so it's easier to give it to
him. But my thing is, I

611
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.119
like the direction you're going. You
got the number one team and the best

612
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:29.400
player on that team, which is
Anthony Edwards. I'm messing with that,

613
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.719
Anthony Edwards. I'm messing with that
now. I don't think he'll win it

614
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:36.800
because probably come back Player of the
Year, but still or most come back,

615
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.400
most improved. But yeah, MVP, I don't think it's most improved

616
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:45.800
because this game is most improved.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm messing

617
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:52.480
with that defensive Player of the Year, the guy we all love to hate.

618
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:58.000
Who to go back. I'm going
to Brook Lopez that I feel like

619
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.400
he got robbed because they got the
best record. Anthony Edwards is averaging twenty

620
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:07.280
four point four, five point six
and four point eight rebounds. So with

621
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:12.280
that being said, you can't give
Edwards the MVP. Why not without giving

622
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.119
Rudy Gobert the Defensive Player of the
Year. No, because it takes defense

623
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:21.480
to win those games too, and
there's nobody doing more defensive stuff other than

624
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.719
Rudy. Then maybe Anthony Davis and
Yannis. That's all you do, that's

625
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:29.039
all you do. We all got
our rolls, right, What did Royman

626
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.960
do? What did Rodman dobound?
That's it? What does Gobert do?

627
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:36.719
Rebounding, block shots? I'm not
gonna. I'm gonna that's your pick,

628
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:38.960
that's what That's fine. My pick
is brook Low. I feel like he

629
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:42.599
got robbed last year. He's still
doing the same stuff he was doing last

630
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.079
year. He did your robbed,
I would agree, So I'm gonna go

631
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:52.320
with Brook Loz. Detensive so far, Brook so far, brook Brook defense

632
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.679
is he a little slow, but
he's slow and that's what that's what killed

633
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.079
them in the Indiana series. Here
his slowness, Yeah, his slowness for

634
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:04.199
that here, I give him that, like you got that Haliberd. He

635
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.920
forty As a coach, you gotta
figure out how to slow the game down

636
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:12.800
so that it don't kill him.
We're gonna get back to that Bucks talk.

637
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:19.000
Uh, coach of the year not
Griffin? Who not Adrian Griffin.

638
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:22.039
We know who it is. I
didn't say the last person to win it?

639
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:27.360
Uh, who you got coach of
the year. So see, this

640
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:32.880
one could really be a toss up
for me because you gotta consider the coach

641
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.599
of the Celtics again, you gotta
consider the coach of the Timberwolves. You

642
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:43.239
gotta consider the thunder. Uh,
you gotta consider the Magic. I mean,

643
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.400
listen, Minnesota, go ahead.
No, I was gonna say,

644
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.440
speaking of them, my coach of
the year, I don't even know his

645
00:49:52.599 --> 00:50:00.239
name. I don't know his name, you don't for the Rockets almost it

646
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:04.159
was it was sarcast I hope.
So I mean the way he was talking

647
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.440
to well, since you don't know
yours, my coach of the year right

648
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:12.280
now is from the Orlando Magic's Jamal
Moseley. Okay, I didn't know his

649
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.639
name. That's why. Okay,
it's Jamal Mosley. Because no one had

650
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:21.159
Orlando here this early, no one. Orlando's playing exciting ball. Can't wait

651
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:24.599
to see them next week against our
bucks. Moseley a brother, you know.

652
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:29.599
I'm cheer for everybody black. Happy
to see him coaching, coaching that

653
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:34.880
way up Minnesota. Here's why I
can't give it to him. Because they

654
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:38.239
have at Worsk, because they have
Bobert, because they have Cat. Orlando

655
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:42.880
has nobody. That nobody, I'm
gonna say they got nobody. They just

656
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.280
have a bunch of guys, have
a bunch of role players that are jelling.

657
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:49.559
Well, I get that they have
a bunch of role players that are

658
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:52.960
jailing. And they got what's his
name. This is dude's second year.

659
00:50:55.039 --> 00:51:04.199
It was Pablo was Pablo. Yeah, but I'm going with Mosley right now.

660
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.440
You don't give it nobody. Let's
just curry. You don't give nobody.

661
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:12.360
That's not true. I think the
honest to win many times. You

662
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.840
see who you got your coach of
the year, bro so far, twenty

663
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:22.320
three games. I'm liking. I'm
not an okay se coach they're young.

664
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:29.559
And then the top of this then
is in the West Daggett, I don't

665
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:35.880
know how say his name, smart
even butcher, Johnny Knot. And they

666
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.840
be honest with you, they had
a golden state number. Oh well,

667
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:44.440
everybody, everybody got golden state number. Right, I don't know, I

668
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.920
don't know about this, Okay,
got the number. Specifically, we got

669
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:51.920
the we got your number. And
my team two or three and my team

670
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:54.760
and my team they're not the Bucks
are my team. I just happened to

671
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:59.000
be a fan of Steph Curry.
You act like I can't be a fan

672
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.360
of Case is a Bucks fan,
but he's also a Lebron guy, right,

673
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:07.880
and you're a closet packer fan,
but you're also a DA guy through

674
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:15.239
my blood. Yeah. And then
when that's why I want to talk the

675
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:21.119
Lakers, I'm looking at I'm looking
at you. Well, who's your team?

676
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.599
Oh yeah, Mike Colley in the
Utah Jazz and the Orlando Magic.

677
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.000
I'm like it. I'm liking ok
though, coach. Let's say also,

678
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:35.079
they got the former Milwaukee kid on
the on their coaching staff. Mike Wilkes

679
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:40.599
shout out to Mike, Yeah,
I know that. Yeah, work.

680
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:47.039
They're developing young guys. But I
like Orlando just a slight edge over him,

681
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:50.360
and they're actually fun to watch to
man, if you haven't had a

682
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:52.320
chance to watch Orlando, no one
does, no one has ature. But

683
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:57.800
you know, I was listening to
us coming in and Kesey last you.

684
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.400
Kesey was talking. You said team
were slow. He's talking about teams that

685
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:07.199
run, magic run because they're young. The young teams are running. You

686
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.079
either got to have size or you
gotta be a run and gun team in

687
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:13.679
this league. Right now, I
can see that. Yeah, yeah,

688
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:17.039
yeah, Now, I wasn't gonna
go down the list, but Rookie of

689
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:23.000
the Year is gonna be obvious one
Victor ain't. I don't see them.

690
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:27.000
I don't even think I heard of
any other rookies. The guy that was

691
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:30.280
a guy in Detroit and Troy and
twins and Okay, see oh yeah,

692
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:36.719
and Chad. Now the Chad home
brewing can get some more. To be

693
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.320
honest with you, it depends what
Okay, see layd at at the end

694
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:42.679
of the year, I can see
him taking away the Rookie of the Year.

695
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:45.280
To be honest with you, I
know to your point, you talk

696
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:51.440
about Rick there's no way that Victor
wingspan is not winning. Man, that's

697
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:52.639
cool, But if your team is
at the bottom of the barrel and they

698
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.960
done lost fifteen in a row,
no not giving you tapping. Lebron got

699
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:00.760
it when Cleveland sucked. They didn't
suck that bad. All got it when

700
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:05.480
Charlotte sucked. They sucked that bad
like the bottom of the barrel. Well,

701
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:07.880
you know San Antonio is the bottom
of the barrel. They're rebuilding,

702
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:12.320
they're getting lottery. Well, you
can't get Rookie the Year. I'm sorry,

703
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:15.480
as long as Victor played sixty five
games. Again they didn't say.

704
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:19.000
I mean, I'm not saying I'm
not I'm saying he shouldn't. I'm saying,

705
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:21.199
if you're gonna pick a rookie of
the year, pick a rookie year

706
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:27.760
thinking some serious impact. But we
know how that's gonna go. Most Improved

707
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:30.559
Player of the Year. I think
it's like I said, I think I

708
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:34.760
think it's Anthony Davis. I mean
Anthony uh Edwards, but I like the

709
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.519
m V him for EV and P. I like Tyre's Halliburd And it's most

710
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.639
improved Player because didn't nobody talked about
him last year. I mean, they

711
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:44.119
did, but they didn't. They
was losing, but he wasn't. He

712
00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:46.760
wasn't playing like he is. Now
that's true, okay because them turnovers?

713
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:51.880
Yeah, three turn off is just
uh what that three? Five? And

714
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:57.239
one of the like ten games?
When did we get okay with celebrating mediocre?

715
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:00.199
What are you talking about? The
Pacers are six and we said they're

716
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:04.880
winning five and we said they're winning
compared to last year. They're in fifth

717
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:08.280
place compared to last year. Cdre
to think about it in the last ten

718
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:13.960
seasons, didn't say that, don't
say you know what I'm saying there.

719
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:16.960
And here's my thing. Here's my
thing that the Bucks are in fifth place.

720
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:21.960
You'll be in here having a whole
fit. The expectations are different.

721
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.239
The expectations are different, yes or
no. Yes, So that's why because

722
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.960
that's okay, I'll give you that. And you know I want to This

723
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:31.400
is the NBA podcast, So I
like to expand our horizon here. It

724
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:37.599
can't be Lebron James, Steph Curry
and the Bucks. That's it. Let's

725
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:44.440
give some love and spread out.
Hey, we're talking about to every shots,

726
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:46.559
bro, who're talking today? Lebron
James. Okay, all right,

727
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:50.920
cool. Did you throw Michael in
there? You don't throw Michael, you

728
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:55.159
bring Michael. Shout out to slaughter
chat. He said, Chet is looking

729
00:55:55.199 --> 00:56:00.079
great? He is. I said
that Chet Homer is looking phenomenal. Who

730
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:04.800
you like to talk about? Lucas, Mike Conley and the Memphis Grizzlies.

731
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:14.360
My most approved play. Shout out
to Mike doing this thing over there in

732
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:20.199
Minnesota. You're shooting forty percent from
the three point range. Yeah. My

733
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:24.320
most improved is Halliburton so far.
I like that you gave yours to you

734
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:31.039
who Edwards? Actually, I wonder
what can he do both? I guess

735
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:36.119
if Giannis can win m v P
and defensive players, that's different. That's

736
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:39.280
a that reward to me. You
can't do both to win. You know

737
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:42.280
what I'm gonna say this, You
can't do both. But you gotta be

738
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:47.320
balling. I was, you gotta
be balling and win Most Improved and MVB.

739
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:51.960
You gotta be ball Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it's never been

740
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:53.559
down. I don't think it has
ever been done either, But I'm saying

741
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:59.239
you gotta be ball can also win
and most improved too, because he stepped

742
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:02.039
his game up. Orlando Oh,
okay, I can see that. No,

743
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:07.920
I can't. In the second year, it's not not when you're competing

744
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:15.599
with Edwards, you're competing with Halliburton, you're competing with Jamal Murray. You're

745
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:21.159
competing with players that are just last
year missed the statch and step and habits

746
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:25.599
it again. But yeah, what's
the next one? Is he touch player

747
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:30.320
of the Year Dame Lillard? Yeah, that's that's a lot. That's a

748
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:34.039
lot, Dame Lillard. You want
to win a game, put him in

749
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:40.199
it two minutes to go. Yeah, I can see that case. Most

750
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:51.840
clutch. You better not say Lebron
because we know you. You'll find a

751
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:54.159
way to Lebron this up. And
I didn't even say Steph. I didn't

752
00:57:54.159 --> 00:58:00.239
even say Steph. You call Lebron
n No, I wasn't. Now will

753
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:08.920
Lebron clutch by pass? He would
definitely win. I'm just I just can't.

754
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:16.320
I'm just kidding. I like Lebron
Anyways, the second greatest ever dollar

755
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:23.119
is probably Clutch. Clutch, Yeah, Clutch, that's who you got to

756
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:27.440
Yeah, hey, I got Clutch. Yes, dang, I don't think

757
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:30.440
because this is he's gonna be he
gonna need it for the Bucks to get

758
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:36.239
to where they want to get.
But let's also let's also not downplay.

759
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:44.159
Uh my man's from okay, see
shake Gilder. So he is, he's

760
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:46.800
in the MVV conversation but to me, but he's also clutch you think,

761
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:52.719
so what I'm going with Dan?
Because right now Dan leaves the league and

762
00:58:52.840 --> 00:59:02.960
clutch point B shy shot shot Alexander
Shae can be clutched too. I'm still

763
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:08.519
good to Dang, but SHA's in
the tops the playoff predictions and play in

764
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:13.000
now. Right now, we're looking
at like I've been. Like I said

765
00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:15.039
before, we're looking at the top
five teams in the East. I mean

766
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:22.280
top ten teams in the East.
Uh, Celtics number one, Orlando number

767
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.440
two, Bucks number three, seventy
six Ers number four, Indiana Pass number

768
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:30.400
five, Cleveland number six, The
Knicks is number seven, eight, the

769
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:38.400
Brooklyn Nets, nine, Miami ten, the Atlanta Hawks. What's the question?

770
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:40.960
The question is do you think was
will stay the same? But do

771
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:47.840
you think some somebody's gonna make a
jump from those bottom teams into the playoffs.

772
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:52.760
So this is the one question you're
asking us here that's really hard to

773
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.840
answer because I mean, we've seen
it last year, teams we thought were

774
00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:00.840
just great either fell out the playoffs
or fell in the play like the Lakers

775
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:02.920
fell in to play in and end
up going to the conference finals. Facts

776
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:07.519
right, the heat were in playing
and ended up going. Well, you

777
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:14.280
know what took us out. Let's
do champion? Top four? That means

778
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:19.599
two in the Eastern Conference too,
in the West champion. Break it down

779
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:21.559
a little bit more. I'm saying, who do you think is gonna be

780
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:22.840
in the Eastern Conference finals? Who
the top to in the East and the

781
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:24.559
top two in the West? No, who do you think is going to

782
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:28.840
be in the Western Conference finals?
Is gonna be Eastern Conference finals? And

783
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:30.400
who you think is gonna be a
champion? Okay? So the top four

784
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:32.760
in each? I said, yeah, Well, I said, I'm not

785
01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:37.599
saying top four because eighteen because AC
could be. You know what I'm saying.

786
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:40.440
I'm saying that who we think is
going to be basically saying conference finals

787
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:44.440
and champions? I said, final
four, final four, champ, champion.

788
01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.719
Uh at twenty games in? Is
this a season prediction or based on

789
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:52.280
twenty games in? So are we
I'm saying prediction for the year? Okay?

790
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:55.800
So I have in the conference finals. I have the Celtics and the

791
01:00:55.880 --> 01:01:04.000
Bucks. Over in the West Western
Conference, I have the Denver Nuggets.

792
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.039
That last one gets tough. Have
the Denver Nuggets and the Phoenix Suns.

793
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:15.360
Really yeah, Golden State, I
don't think looking at their season, I

794
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:17.559
don't think there's a bounce back there. I think there will be some good

795
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:21.639
games. I'll think there'll be some
wins. There might even be playing.

796
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.159
But I don't have them going to
the long haul. Not The Western Conference

797
01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:29.039
is too deep. It's way too
deep, and teams are figuring out.

798
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:34.800
What I love about the new NBA
is the superstar two and three superstar players.

799
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:38.639
It's no more because the caliber of
players of a young Steph, a

800
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:45.400
young KD. They don't exist anymore
on the same team. Right. So

801
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:52.679
NBA champions this year really quick.
I hate to say it. I hate

802
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:54.039
to say it. No I would
saying who you got for the West?

803
01:01:54.280 --> 01:02:00.320
I told you Phoenix, Sorry,
go ahead with the NBA CHAMPI is this

804
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:05.440
year and I hate to say it, but if they don't get it done

805
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:10.960
this year, they never will.
The Boston Celtics, if they don't get

806
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:21.079
it done this year, fat key
Zeke Terrence kicks crazy? What did you

807
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:24.159
get? Thank you? Because your
picture popped up and it said that man,

808
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:30.519
relax, that's your Instagram, that's
our ninety four feet I g when

809
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:34.639
have you ever called me? I
was going to address okay, Mark,

810
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:38.239
Keith Davis, Isaiah Moore. First
I didn't say nothing. Were you was

811
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:50.159
co signing signing like you save here? I mean saying fat key? What

812
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:54.360
as like pow? Were you saying, Francis? Just show everybody in the

813
01:02:54.559 --> 01:03:02.119
nation shut up getting off it savior? Anybody here got fans and st up

814
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:07.599
with dragon? Isn't that right?
No? So anyway, you're gonna play

815
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:16.519
something back that if the Boston Celtics
don't get it done this year, they

816
01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:21.559
won't. So I got to Boston
Celtics. I won't agree with that.

817
01:03:21.719 --> 01:03:27.519
I got maybe okay, but my
heart wants the Bucks. I have the

818
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:37.159
Bucks and the Sixers in the Eastern
Conference. I lost so much faith in

819
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:42.280
Boston this this past season after they
let Miami beat them the way they did.

820
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:52.079
I know, but I'm just saying
like there's something missing over there.

821
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:59.280
You know what's missing that they went
they a bitch, Boston bitch is a

822
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:06.079
little bit. They don't look championship
caliber anymore. Boston to me, they

823
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:13.599
don't the championship calider got. They
got an eight nine rotation, a solid

824
01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:20.119
eight nine rotation. We'll talk about
it. Well, I'm only asking because

825
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:25.920
he's it goes with this. I'm
just saying, but they don't have Giannis

826
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:30.559
either, the league's best player.
So that's the difference right there between the

827
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:38.519
Bucks in Boston. He ain't Jannis, and they don't have Dame Lillard,

828
01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:45.760
a clutch shooter on that roster on
Boston. And you see what that jumper

829
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:56.039
got them. You see what that
jumper got them last playoffs? Nothing.

830
01:04:56.280 --> 01:05:00.920
He went County exactly when they need
at that jumper, it was nowhere to

831
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:04.880
be found. And on top of
that, what's the call. I just

832
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:10.000
think, couldn't go left? Yeah, yeah, but you don't need to.

833
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:15.320
I just think with with Gianni's you
said seventy six ers. With with

834
01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:23.119
Gianni's and and dames ability to shoot
the ball, they stent a better chance

835
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:30.639
to me. And if the Bucks
make a move to get one more stud

836
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:34.679
there, it doesn't have to be
like a superstar All Star. We just

837
01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:41.719
need a stud. You know,
somebody's gonna fill in voids and I think

838
01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:45.920
we're champion. We're ready for championship. So you got Boston, you got

839
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:54.559
Boston seventy six ers West, and
I got the Sixers because they got rid

840
01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:57.400
of the drama. They got rid
of the problem, they got rid of

841
01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:02.079
the drama and now they playing basketball
killing. And I like Tyrees Maxie.

842
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:08.159
Maxie is a stud and he's gonna
be a problem for people in the playoffs.

843
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:14.159
That's true. Well, it's true
in my Western Conference. You got

844
01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:17.760
to give them a number. They
props until they knocked off They there,

845
01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:23.360
and then my one to go with
them is the Lakers. I like the

846
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:28.559
Lakers because they got size, and
I like the way the Lakers role players

847
01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:33.719
are playing, like Cam Reddish and
and in them and Vanderbilt and them,

848
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:41.280
there's some studs on defense, and
that makes a big difference for a roster

849
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:46.320
like like the Lakers, because Lebron
needs defensive players. A d needs somebody

850
01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:50.480
that's gonna help him play defense.
So you're saying, are you saying that,

851
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:55.760
oh, I'm putting I ain't putting. I'm putting word in their mouth.

852
01:06:57.119 --> 01:06:59.760
You saying they have what it takes
to go in through the Western Conference.

853
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:02.320
But they're stacked right now. They
stacked. You heard the question.

854
01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:15.920
I heard the question, who you
get the win? I see the Lakers

855
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:20.519
and the Bucks in the finals,
and who and I see the Bucks beating

856
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:25.800
the Lakers. So you have the
Bucks winning the title this year. I

857
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:30.480
got the Bucks winning it this year
over the Lakers. Yep, I'm I

858
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:34.559
just feel championship vibes again, like
it's something brewing in the air that we're

859
01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:42.199
not that's like that year. That
like that year when we want it,

860
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:46.559
but you can you can feel it. It's on that. It's on that

861
01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:50.000
cuss you feel. Remember how we
were to begin the season, were kind

862
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:54.239
of shaky, you know what I'm
saying, and then as the season went

863
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:57.960
on, you like, oh,
we're gonna be straight this year. I

864
01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.880
feel say that the Bucks talk.
I'm gonna say I'm I'm gonna say it

865
01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:06.840
like I said, the Bucks made
they move that year that made them get

866
01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:12.280
over that hump. Though, Remember
what was the move? Uh dog we

867
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:16.199
got dogs? What was the move
Brownie and Tucker? Remember that trade we

868
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:20.640
made? I was a mid season
trade, Yes it was. It was

869
01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:28.800
God damn because he's no we talked
about this, That's not what he do

870
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:32.720
like I said, the Bucks are
the Bucks are on that? Do they

871
01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:39.159
on that custard again of being ready? They on that cuss. That's that's

872
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:43.960
what I'm being honest. They on
the cuss of being ready. So this

873
01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:47.680
is what I got for my top
four because they only lost seven games too

874
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:51.199
many, that's only two games out
of first The games that they lost they

875
01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:55.000
shouldn't have lost. But I'm gonna
say it for Bucks Talk. I got

876
01:08:55.560 --> 01:09:02.359
my final four Eastern Conference got ready, Yeah, final fource in Celtics and

877
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:08.000
the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Okay, wow, you're so you got the

878
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:11.840
Bucks getting bounced in the second round, bounced in the second round, Okay,

879
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:21.359
okay. And then for my Western
Conference, I got, I got,

880
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:28.239
I got, I got. I
got the Kings in Denver. Mm

881
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:33.680
hmm, I got the Kings in
Denver. You've been drinking no, Because

882
01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:39.840
first off, Dame can win you
a series. That's one that's first round.

883
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:42.119
We'll talk about in the Bucks Talk. We'll save it for Buckstoll.

884
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:44.520
Let me just let me tell you
why I got my predictions. A matter

885
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:47.680
of fact, I'm glad you explained
your predictions. Appreciate it you too.

886
01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:51.760
My think about my thing about seventy
six ers. Like you said before,

887
01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:55.840
they got rid of the drama.
They're playing some good ball. I feel

888
01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:59.880
like in Bead is letting loose.
He's been doing he like he can't,

889
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:04.359
can't nobody hold me. I don't
have no issues. I'm good and MAXI

890
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:06.600
don't mind playing the back role.
He like, I'm gonna get mine.

891
01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:12.760
It's cool, and he's due for
a big contract. Boston Celtics, I

892
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:16.199
still think they're the team to be. Now what happened last year, I

893
01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:20.399
don't think that kind of run is
gonna happen again no time soon. But

894
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:26.840
I do think that with the boss, they still their team to beat because

895
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:33.520
they have I'll say this, the
way their roster is constructed, I don't

896
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:39.039
like it, but it works for
them. I do agree with you that

897
01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:42.239
some people do need to step up, and I think as time goes by

898
01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:46.840
they'll that'll happen. But I don't
like I do like there. I just

899
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:51.640
feel like they're a top two team
in the Eastern Conference. So I got

900
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:55.239
them two. And then on the
West, like I said before I got

901
01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:59.720
to me, Sacramento Kings are a
wild card and if they have beat the

902
01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:02.960
UH sacrament If they had beat Golden
State, they would have made to the

903
01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:08.439
to the Western Conres Finals. If
they had beat Golden State, what was

904
01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:10.479
the fifth we all be drunk.
I get it. You said, if

905
01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:13.920
who beat them? If Sacramento last
year, if they had beat Golden State,

906
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.199
they have been in the NBA finals
of the Western Conras Final, and

907
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:20.960
they'd have gave the Nuggets a problem. The Sacramento No. I told you

908
01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:27.560
the Nuggets was gonna sweep anybody they
played, and I don't any including Golden

909
01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:32.000
State. And let me talk about
the Nuggets real quick. They have a

910
01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:35.720
problem because, like I said,
they lost what they in like fourth or

911
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:42.079
fifth SPI right now, and that's
because they lost Jamal Harry was hurt the

912
01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:45.279
lost Brown. He's gonna get hurt
again. That man. I'm not cursing

913
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:47.520
Him'm just saying's gonna get hurt again. It looks like one of those years.

914
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:51.840
Maybe not, I'm saying like one
of those years. So I'm got

915
01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:59.520
the Nuggets making it, but I'm
I'm respecting that they're champs. That's the

916
01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:01.479
only reason I gotta make it.
But I don't see that happening. And

917
01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:12.800
then for my winner, I got
the Nuggets, repeating it's possible, I

918
01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:15.359
could see that. I got the
Nuggets repeating I do think they'll get it

919
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:27.720
together. Yeah, I think they'll
get it together. M uh Slaughter said,

920
01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:30.439
I want to see if Maxie can
be clutched in the playoffs like Murray

921
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:38.720
does for the Joker and Middleton does
for the Bucks. So we'll see about

922
01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:44.159
that. But yeah, that's that's
Those are my predictions, and you can

923
01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:49.279
take that to the bank. Hold
up. So on the tenth of December

924
01:12:49.600 --> 01:13:00.640
twenty three, Andre predicts the Boston
Celtics versus the Denver Nuggets, with the

925
01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:08.880
Boston Celtics winning it. Casey says
Bucks and Lakers, with the Bucks won

926
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:15.319
it. Zeke I said Boston Celtics
versus Denver Nuggets, Denver Nuggets winning.

927
01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:23.239
Now, this does not mean as
the season goes on and the schedule changes,

928
01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:27.199
we say I like the Bucks winning
it, that does not mean that.

929
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:30.479
Because I know how you do,
how I do? Yeah, how

930
01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:34.319
I do. Yeah, you may
come in here, I mean Golden City

931
01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:38.119
doing the thing. No, no, no, no, I'm talking about

932
01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:44.640
I'm talking about circumstances can change predictions. Yeah, that's your thing. Don't

933
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:48.279
point out can they not. Can
circumstances change predictions. Yes, you're right.

934
01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:53.119
If Jamal Murray breaks his leg tomorrow, that can change everything. Steph

935
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:55.960
Curry got hurt and I changed it
that year. But y'all rolled me like

936
01:13:56.239 --> 01:13:58.760
I don't want to hear I don't
want to hear Dre, who's hurt?

937
01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:02.479
Who's hurt? So at the end
of the day, in twenty five games

938
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:09.399
and we're recording the show, did
willing my hope is that I can say

939
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:12.199
the Bucks will go to the finals. Hey, the fan in me,

940
01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:16.359
well, love it, same,
love it, same same matter of fact.

941
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:20.479
Let's just get into Bucks talk.
Let's do it. Casey, you

942
01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:27.600
made a wow accusation and me and
Dre who was back you see it?

943
01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:31.399
Because we don't see it. I
show us what you're seeing. Please tell

944
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:35.920
me what you're seeing. Because the
fact that we lost to Indiana, the

945
01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:41.960
fact that Bobby challenges not only the
coach but the players too, because we're

946
01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:45.359
not playing to the standard that we
are expecting, because we are what are

947
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:47.079
you seuse we in the first twenty
games. Like the year the Bucks won

948
01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:51.319
the championship, we struggled at the
beginning of that season, and everybody wanted

949
01:14:53.239 --> 01:14:57.119
Bud fired. Do you not remember
that? Yes, because they were doing

950
01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:00.000
the same thing the Bucks are doing
right now until we fi that one piece

951
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:03.720
that we needed, that the Bucks
need to do this year. So you're

952
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:09.119
saying, via a trade, via
a move, we can do, we

953
01:15:09.159 --> 01:15:13.720
can turn this around. Yes,
we are one trade away from being ready.

954
01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:17.359
If we don't make it, we
were gonna make the trade. Then

955
01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:24.039
I don't know, because it gotta
be it gotta be made. You You're

956
01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:28.920
right, we do need something.
I don't know what that is, but

957
01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:31.479
we need. But I don't have
that feeling that that year were last year

958
01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:36.000
feeling. I do. I got
that same feeling when they said Bucks and

959
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:42.439
six. I don't know because the
way we see. Here's the thing,

960
01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:46.439
here's my thing. Last year we
talked about defining moment, defining because and

961
01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:50.039
I'm gonna tell you why that championship. Let's say we would have lost the

962
01:15:50.119 --> 01:15:56.479
Lakers. I would have been good
with that because the with you, like

963
01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:01.960
I said before, Darvin Ham coached
a great game, he coached a great

964
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:05.239
game, and him coaching a great
game against the Bucks, to me,

965
01:16:05.439 --> 01:16:10.479
the Bucks aren't Honestly, they're not
predictable. The fact that we don't have

966
01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:15.399
an identity. You know what Our
identity is clutch. No identity is clutch.

967
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:19.119
Dang. No, I'm not saying
dang. I'm saying, last two

968
01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:23.359
minutes, dam has to save us. What if he don't make those shots,

969
01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:26.279
then we lose, or gets hurt, or he gets hurt, or

970
01:16:26.359 --> 01:16:30.000
he have an off night, then
we lose. You can't, you can't.

971
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:32.399
Seriously, you can't. I'm gonna
say seriously, but you can't sit

972
01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:38.000
here and say our season is depending
on Damian Lillard making these clutch shots.

973
01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:43.479
Yeah, because it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna be a it's always

974
01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:47.760
a fifty to fifty. Because we
also have a chance Middleton making a splash

975
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:50.840
too. That hasn't made a big
splash for the Bucks yet too. So

976
01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:55.640
those two things, either the Bucks
make a trade or Middleton makes a splash,

977
01:16:56.399 --> 01:17:01.319
can put us over the hunt easily, easily with the over the hump,

978
01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:03.920
with the over the hump, Middleton
with a Dame and a Yiannis.

979
01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:06.760
You tell him he can't win a
championship with the way Brooke playing defense like

980
01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:11.439
he did that same year we won
the championship. I'm gonna say no,

981
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:19.479
then you need to stop going to
the games. I can make that happen.

982
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:29.439
Make it happen. You're bad,
your bad? What the reason?

983
01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:31.560
What? What was the reason?
What? What was the reason for it?

984
01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:34.479
But last time, this time,
right now, what's the reason for

985
01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:40.520
you saying something? Because because because
Kesey said you need to stop going to

986
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:43.000
game, you didn't have to say
nothing. You had to say nothing.

987
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:45.399
But it was like, and I
was gonna say. I was like,

988
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:48.680
let me see if you're gonna hold
it, and as I predicted, you

989
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:55.399
rolled up. I can make that
happen. It was no problem. So

990
01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:59.840
what was the reason, what was
the reason? Where is what is it

991
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:08.600
that the weird of that, because
it's that of him just laying it be

992
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:13.840
instead he just leave it it be? What was the reason? Because I

993
01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:16.279
think you could help yourself. I
think you couldn't throw it out there,

994
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:20.720
man, So he probably tossed me
along, so I take you, you

995
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:26.319
know what. I was like,
I'm looking at it like you, like

996
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:30.359
I'm working. I'm looking at it
like he could he could just lay this

997
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:33.119
up. But no, no,
now dragon, nah nah, I got

998
01:18:33.239 --> 01:18:41.000
a double I gotta double bunk tomahawk. This anyway, head do it.

999
01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:44.680
But it's the fact that you didn't
have to like what was the reason?

1000
01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:51.239
What's crazy? But no, you
are so critical of the Bucks, but

1001
01:18:51.359 --> 01:18:56.800
yet your Dallas cowboys can come in
and sink it up and you still got

1002
01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:01.039
championship hopes. No, I don't
how I don't you do? Don't you

1003
01:19:01.199 --> 01:19:05.840
gloat all season about your cowboy cow
girls whatever you want to call them,

1004
01:19:06.279 --> 01:19:10.920
and they let you down? If
you if you see the Bucks, the

1005
01:19:11.039 --> 01:19:14.399
Bucks, the Bucks are still top
three, the two games out of first

1006
01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:17.119
place, and you still have no
faith in them to even make it to

1007
01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:19.840
the final. You don't even have
faith in them even making it to the

1008
01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:25.920
Eastern Conference finals. I don't see
it. You need to stop watching sports

1009
01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.239
man, I don't see it.
You need to cut your sports back out

1010
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:30.359
here my things, because now you're
putting on the show. Here's my thing.

1011
01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:38.279
What do you see because we're predicting
this on the hopes of Dame Lillard

1012
01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:43.520
being not only clutch player. Were
two games out of with two games out

1013
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:46.319
of first with a player who has
never played with us and didn't even have

1014
01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:49.600
a chance to even come to training
camp. He did come train camp,

1015
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:56.039
he was in preseason. He ain't
got no reason. He came right at

1016
01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:59.960
preseason. He can't write a little
bit before. He wasn't at the beginn

1017
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:04.359
any of He was in that training
camp when the trade camp happens in August,

1018
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:09.399
in August, I know, But
when did the trade happen September?

1019
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:13.279
No, it didn't August. It
was hot a side. When he came

1020
01:20:13.319 --> 01:20:16.520
in the city, Bucks was already
in training camp, remember, because they

1021
01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:23.239
said he wasn't reporting to twelve Budge's
training camp. Look, I don't know,

1022
01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:27.000
but the point is, I'm looking
at that up because we recorded the

1023
01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:36.279
following day. Mm hmm, let's
catch up. What are you trying to

1024
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:45.960
figure out something? What are you
trying to figure out? Was Dame there

1025
01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:48.960
for? When did when did Dame
sign with the Bucks? Jane started the

1026
01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:53.920
season with us when they didn't play
a game. Dame came but when he

1027
01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:57.319
wasn't for a training camp, I'm
saying he was? Was he he was?

1028
01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:00.079
He came here and uh no,
he wasn't. If he was for

1029
01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:03.680
training camp, it was at the
tail end. It was a tail end.

1030
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:09.479
Dame came here because I remember the
holiday trade. Dame got here in

1031
01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:12.600
late August. He got here at
the end of He got in here at

1032
01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:15.159
the end of September, got say, but the games hadn't started because the

1033
01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:18.479
season didn't start until the end of
October, so he was part training.

1034
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:25.279
He was part trained when the training
cap start late September. October we did

1035
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:29.920
preseason the week of October twelfth.
I think he didn't play in any preseason

1036
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.640
games but the last one. Yeah, just like y'all need the superstar.

1037
01:21:34.199 --> 01:21:44.640
Yep, Dre, you're being decide, sending shots. You're being unusually quiet

1038
01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:47.600
about this topic. Well I think
I mean, well, number one,

1039
01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:50.920
you and kise when y'all get started, it's just a show. So I

1040
01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:54.880
like to show the world that I
don't actually do the most interrupting here.

1041
01:21:55.319 --> 01:22:02.800
But the reason that so here we
go with this again, whatd of just

1042
01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:11.199
going along? You want to put
people on the spot listen? I mean

1043
01:22:11.239 --> 01:22:17.039
they listen to the show. Now, what was the reason? What was

1044
01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:19.640
the reason? So he talks to
me the other live so you both had

1045
01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:26.800
to get a poster tonight. No
anyway, I I don't know, man,

1046
01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:32.119
I just and you know the messed
up part is last time when when

1047
01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:38.279
you made your Bowl prediction the year
we got bounced out by Miami. I've

1048
01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:43.439
seen it. I was wide,
but yes, we got this and listen

1049
01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:46.000
to me this year. Listen,
listen, that's not what I mean.

1050
01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:50.800
I'm telling you what I'm telling you
right now. My whole thing is you

1051
01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:59.279
have to look at the bigger picture. You have a clutch closer in Dame

1052
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:03.640
and you have a clutch closer in
Middleton. I'm seeing on top last year

1053
01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:09.520
though, on top of losing games
to teams we should beat, where is

1054
01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:13.279
our signature win? For the last
ten years, we've been losing the teams

1055
01:23:13.359 --> 01:23:17.560
that we shouldn't lose to, as
the Milwaukee Bucks, because teams like Charlotte

1056
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:23.520
has been having our number for about
ten years straight and will come in no

1057
01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:28.079
matter what our season record is and
kick our butt. Right, and it

1058
01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:30.800
was one of the teams that we
should have beat that beat us, right

1059
01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:32.479
I'm talk about but you know what
I'm talking about, just saying Boston,

1060
01:23:32.640 --> 01:23:39.920
Philly, you know what I'm talking
about them top five teams got injuries.

1061
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:46.520
Middleton. I agree. I agree
with you on this. Middleton is very

1062
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:51.079
important to this roster, more important
than I originally thought. In the Bucks.

1063
01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:54.439
You need to make a decision either
we're gonna move on, or we're

1064
01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:56.399
gonna keep them, or we're gonna
keep them. We're gonna keep them,

1065
01:23:56.439 --> 01:24:00.479
and they need to make that decision
in the next answer this question. I

1066
01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:04.159
give the Bucks thirteen days to make
a decision on that, the next thirteen

1067
01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:11.199
day, the next thirteen days,
because after Christmas break then the real games

1068
01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:15.039
begin Christmas Day. You mean I
said two weeks thirteen days, Yeah,

1069
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:18.399
but two weeks away from Christmas.
So so I'm gonna say this about the

1070
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:23.680
Bucks. I I'm a fan,
there's no doubt about it. We give

1071
01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:26.840
you a season ticket. I wasn't
gonna say that, but I watched the

1072
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:31.880
games. I should have camp holiday
one hundred and fifty percent. Not right.

1073
01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:36.880
Get him, sister, Sheila,
he up here, he being he

1074
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:42.079
being disrespectful. Listen, when you
can pick up a star like Dame,

1075
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:45.119
it's okay to let go of holiday. And this is this is just how

1076
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:48.119
I keep saying. People don't know
how to let certain things go that they're

1077
01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:53.199
comfortable with. We're comfortable. We
got so comfortable with him, I ain't

1078
01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:58.560
even like it. Ain't it.
I would have rather had Middleton go than

1079
01:24:58.640 --> 01:25:03.479
holiday for two reasons. Here's why
I don't believe we're the championship caliber two

1080
01:25:03.640 --> 01:25:10.319
undersized scards. Listen to me.
We were fourth defensively. Now we're twenty

1081
01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:15.560
four. Defense matters in this game, and Dame on defense, ain't it

1082
01:25:16.439 --> 01:25:19.920
offensively? Dame is a killer.
That's who you want. You want the

1083
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:25.199
ball in his hands. He is
mister clutch. Giannis is gonna Yannis.

1084
01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:30.039
I want the Bucks to kill it. I do. It's still early.

1085
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:34.640
We know we have a whole half
of season left in a quarter to show

1086
01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:40.520
folks that the Bucks can get it
done. My thinking on this subject matter

1087
01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:43.640
is I'm not even thinking it's so
much a trade. I think it's really

1088
01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:47.039
coaching. I think it comes down
to coach. Actually, we're not number

1089
01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:53.359
twenty one anymore. What do we
now? It eight top ten, we're

1090
01:25:53.439 --> 01:26:00.359
number three, and what defensive rating? Cap cap cat Let me see that

1091
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:09.800
there's number one? Let me see
that Boston. Can I see that?

1092
01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:16.560
Police? Can I can I see
that police? Wait there, they're going

1093
01:26:16.600 --> 01:26:20.640
by defensive ratings. That's not that
that means. That's not what that means.

1094
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:26.840
That's not what that means. We're
one of the worst defensive teams in

1095
01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:36.359
the league. Again, look it
up. So Basically, we all want

1096
01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:41.680
what's best for the Bucks. We
do. You all have your heads wrapped

1097
01:26:41.720 --> 01:26:45.760
around the Bucks need to do a
trade? Oh I do for who?

1098
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:51.880
And for what? I have not
heard except for these rumors y'all keep making

1099
01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:59.199
up in y'all head. There ain't
been one trade link to the bus now,

1100
01:26:59.399 --> 01:27:02.560
is it woe? No, it's
not woj But people are talking because

1101
01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:08.239
we're missing something. Now here's my
next here? What about this trade?

1102
01:27:08.439 --> 01:27:13.680
Real quick? It's another trade Bucks
in the Grizzlies. We get Marcus Smart

1103
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:21.319
for Bobby. Right now, the
number one defensive ranked team is the Minnesota

1104
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:26.239
Timberwolves, and the Bucks are number
twenty four. Still we're in the bottom.

1105
01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:30.199
We're twenty two. We're in the
bottom. Top team. Okay,

1106
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:33.199
but at the end of the day, you got Memphis at twelve. Does

1107
01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:35.560
it really make that big of a
difference. And look at the record,

1108
01:27:36.279 --> 01:27:41.319
I mean yes and no. I
see what you're saying. The Bucks started

1109
01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:45.319
out terrible, but we've gotten better, don't. You don't just to climb

1110
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:47.920
the numbers overnight. That was our
identity though, that's my thing. That

1111
01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:50.319
was our identity and we don't have
that anymore. By the end of the

1112
01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:54.520
season. And so if we're there
about the end of the season, because

1113
01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:57.239
I don't think the Bucks started out. I don't think the Bucks started out

1114
01:27:57.279 --> 01:28:00.479
with that defensive rating. The year
Holiday came here, we got that.

1115
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:01.960
No, we had to earn it. We earned that, We earned it

1116
01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:05.479
through holidays. It took time.
He was our defensive anchor, but it

1117
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:09.880
took time of chemistry though, right, And that's just who we were.

1118
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:15.520
We were there and how Yiannis and
you have Holiday, two of the top

1119
01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:18.840
ten defensive players in the NBA,
your defensive rate is gonna go up.

1120
01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:24.960
Dame is not a defensive player.
He what he is. And then on

1121
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:28.800
top of that, these guys are
thirty, they are who they are.

1122
01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:38.319
John Portland at number ten and they
six and fifteen. So the defensive rating

1123
01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:42.720
stuff is kind of like not it
does. It doesn't make up break then

1124
01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:45.279
at this moment right now, because
at the end of the season, that's

1125
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:49.840
where it matters. Half second half
of season. So again, I like

1126
01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:54.960
the Bucks. I like our chances
to compete. I just don't have that

1127
01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:59.800
this is a chance. If the
Bucks are a championship team, of course,

1128
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:02.199
I just don't get the feeling that
they're going to send me to trade

1129
01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:05.439
again. What's the trade again?
You said there isn't any He's making it

1130
01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:08.720
up. I'm just saying, sim
me to trade he was talking about.

1131
01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:15.479
I'm sorry I shouldn't told America that
your stats are wrong. The trade.

1132
01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:18.039
This is a possible trade. He
said it's not wo so it don't matter.

1133
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:21.680
No, I was gonna say,
Marcus Smart, we get Marcus Smart

1134
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:28.119
and we trade Bobby, Pat and
bow Champ. No, that don't even

1135
01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:33.359
make sense because that's giving up way
too much. Marcus Smart. Smart's hurt

1136
01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:40.520
right now, ain't even playing even
playing not no, no, but you're

1137
01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:45.560
talking about Marcus Smart for giving up
Bobby and Pat and bow chat our future.

1138
01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:50.680
No, no, no, no
saying our future. He is the

1139
01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:59.560
future chat. But then it ain't
looking bright. Please stop saying taking him,

1140
01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:02.520
Please stop taking them to the games. I'm tying of this. Look.

1141
01:30:02.600 --> 01:30:06.279
I like bow Champ, nice guy, great guy, but he's not

1142
01:30:06.399 --> 01:30:10.159
the next Giannis. I didn't call
him the next year. You say he's

1143
01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:13.359
the future. When you say he's
the future, you're talking about no.

1144
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:16.079
Then on top, we're talking about
the NBA, where if you're not a

1145
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:20.760
top five, top ten, he's
not even a top twenty. You don't

1146
01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:29.159
say he's the future. We need
to we need to get better in you

1147
01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:32.159
said what is there? He was
not? He wasn't even wait when when

1148
01:30:32.279 --> 01:30:36.199
the Bucks knew when the hold on. It's the potential that you can see

1149
01:30:36.199 --> 01:30:43.239
in the player that if are our
future. Bull Champ has a lot of

1150
01:30:43.319 --> 01:30:45.800
potential in room to grow. And
that's what you have to look at.

1151
01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:48.640
Okay, seiling is not cap you
know, go ahead, go ahead,

1152
01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:55.880
that's what we're talking about. Bold
Champs. Seiling is not capped. And

1153
01:30:56.000 --> 01:31:00.279
you can see he got so much
room to grow and learn. For what

1154
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:04.399
Because that's the point that I was
making is I'm not. I didn't call

1155
01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:09.319
I didn't. I did not once
call Bowl Championni. I did not once

1156
01:31:09.399 --> 01:31:14.079
say the top player. Teams have
to have a player to plan their future

1157
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:16.920
around. And for the Bucks is
bow Champ. You think they drafted him

1158
01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:25.479
just because they drafted him because he's
a nice brol and he can have the

1159
01:31:25.560 --> 01:31:30.760
potential. That's cool. Going back
and forth, Come let me say this,

1160
01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:32.079
No, no, no, no, let me just say this.

1161
01:31:32.199 --> 01:31:36.319
Let me just say this. Let
me just say this. I'm not I

1162
01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:40.560
don't have anything against bow Champ.
I don't have anything against bow champ.

1163
01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:43.920
You sure. I'm starting to go
with Kesey's theory of you riding the bucks.

1164
01:31:43.960 --> 01:31:45.279
Now it's getting a little out of
hand. No, what I'm saying

1165
01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:49.039
is this, y'all sitting there talking
about man bow champions, the future bow

1166
01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:56.880
champions, this bowl champions dead.
I'm saying that this window, this championship

1167
01:31:57.039 --> 01:32:02.279
window, this championship window is not
a huge one. This championship window is

1168
01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:08.359
a small one. So you talk
about when you talk about bow champions,

1169
01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:12.880
the future bow champions, did if
Yannis were to leave, If Yannis were

1170
01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:15.560
to leave, you're telling me we're
good. No, not what we're saying,

1171
01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:18.560
So don't tell me he's the future. What I'm saying is this,

1172
01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:23.039
this is a small window. We
have our future. So we have an

1173
01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:26.920
opportunity to get rid of somebody who's
not shooting. Well, that's Bobby.

1174
01:32:27.319 --> 01:32:32.640
If we have somebody who is older
but also kind of irrelevant on this team,

1175
01:32:32.720 --> 01:32:34.880
one of those older white guys you're
talking about, we need to get

1176
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:39.680
rid of, get rid of him. Pack. If you're talking about somebody

1177
01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:46.800
who guys you said, I'm saying
that, but you and you and I

1178
01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:49.000
know your connections. Blah blah blah. You don't want to say it,

1179
01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:51.880
I'll say it for you. One
of the older white guys. Get him

1180
01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:57.600
out of here. On top of
that, we only got rid of one.

1181
01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:00.720
I would never say that we got
rid of Grayson Allen. I would

1182
01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:02.239
never say that. But I will
say is we do have a lot of

1183
01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:05.399
players on the team that shouldn't be
there. But you don't trade three of

1184
01:33:05.560 --> 01:33:12.760
your core pieces of your offense for
Marcus Smart a. You make it it

1185
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:15.920
seem like Marcus Marcus Smart as the
former decent player of the year. Yes,

1186
01:33:16.079 --> 01:33:19.960
no, three years ago, two
years ago. He's not a he's

1187
01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:23.680
not a savior. He's hurt.
Boston got rid of him for a reason.

1188
01:33:24.039 --> 01:33:30.479
Okay, Boston because they still number
one without him. Look I'm not

1189
01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:34.880
saying and we're still top three without
Holiday, we have all that defensive player

1190
01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:39.840
of the year stuff. I'm gonna
say this saying we have an issue.

1191
01:33:39.880 --> 01:33:44.199
You just got you just gotta have. You just gotta have the right chemistry,

1192
01:33:44.479 --> 01:33:47.680
right time, and the right coach
to have your players. We don't

1193
01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:51.159
have. So if you look at
the Lakers and Beth if you look at

1194
01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:57.920
Cam cam defense with no team he's
ever played for. But Darvin ham has

1195
01:33:57.960 --> 01:34:01.000
got him to buy in on the
defensive end and he looks good. What

1196
01:34:01.199 --> 01:34:06.199
you're talking about is what the Bucks
are lacking. And you think Marcus mart

1197
01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:11.119
can do that one player, one
person. Do we or do we not

1198
01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:14.800
need some type of help on defense? Yes for you, absolutely do Okay,

1199
01:34:16.520 --> 01:34:21.359
I'm look, I'm not just saying
is we need some help bow Champs?

1200
01:34:21.439 --> 01:34:28.720
Untouchabow for me, bro and you
missed the draft picks we have.

1201
01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:32.600
Listen, we have nothing for the
future. We have nothing. If the

1202
01:34:32.720 --> 01:34:38.760
Bucks trade away these three players now
we're riding on yan Is for the next

1203
01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:44.760
three hoping that Dame resigns into at
his older age, you have nothing.

1204
01:34:44.840 --> 01:34:48.239
So if you trade away bow Champ
now you have nothing to restart with when

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01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:51.880
Yannis does walk away, hold up, hear me out, and then and

1206
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:55.880
then you can bring us home and
TikTok us or whatever it is, y'all.

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01:34:55.960 --> 01:35:00.960
Do you listen to some ticktok more? I'm gonna tall like this,

1208
01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:08.560
Andrew Zavi Douglass full name. I
ain't building no more Bucks teams, I

1209
01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:14.439
ain't owning no more features. I'm
not So if you're trading away talent that

1210
01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:18.399
can get better. Like Kesey said, to build around and bring pieces around

1211
01:35:18.439 --> 01:35:21.680
in the future. I'm not with
it. I'm not with it. And

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Marcus Smart. You could have said
anybody, but you said Marcus Smart.

1213
01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:31.359
Anybody you said, Marcus Smart for
three players, that's nowhere near a valuable

1214
01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:35.600
trade. That trade wouldn't even go
through. No commissioner wouldn't even let you

1215
01:35:35.680 --> 01:35:40.920
do that stupid trade. What did
you even get that from? Where you

1216
01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:45.199
picked that up from? Now,
I'm just saying, what what? What?

1217
01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:49.319
What made you pick that trade website? There's a mock trade. We

1218
01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:53.760
picked it up Wikipedia. I don't
know if well, then you need to

1219
01:35:53.800 --> 01:35:57.399
stop using them as your source.
This thing. The numbers don't add up

1220
01:35:57.479 --> 01:36:00.319
because you asked Okay, I ask
your question. Because we've been going back

1221
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:02.119
and forth about this trades and stuff
like that for the last couple of weeks.

1222
01:36:02.199 --> 01:36:06.039
Actually we ain't getting zach lavine for
nobody. You got to give up

1223
01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:11.720
something, You got to give up
something. But three players for Marcus Smart,

1224
01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:14.920
you got to give up something.
Marcus Smart is a tip for tat

1225
01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:19.960
trade one player for one player?
Sorry, all right, okay, Like

1226
01:36:20.039 --> 01:36:24.279
I'm not saying it I'm just saying
this, and I give what y'all y'all

1227
01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:27.399
coming from. Be honest with you
think y'all coming from a fandom, because

1228
01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:30.840
Bobby ain't been putting up numbers like
he's not like he used. And Bobby

1229
01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:34.279
can be on the table. Bobby
can absolutely be Chap, but not Bobby

1230
01:36:34.439 --> 01:36:40.720
Bowchamp and Connieton. You can have
one for Marcus, but you can't have

1231
01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:44.640
three for Marcus. No, I'll
give you two. That's stupid. You

1232
01:36:44.720 --> 01:36:47.039
can get Bobby from Marcus, but
you can't have three from Mark. And

1233
01:36:47.079 --> 01:36:49.399
then on top of it, you
talk about being stupid. Why would somebody

1234
01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:54.560
take Let's say, let's just say
we put up Bobby and Pat. Whybout

1235
01:36:54.560 --> 01:37:00.880
somebody take that? That's the stupid
trade. I think I'll come from a

1236
01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:04.319
fandom. There's not a fandom.
Listen, let's keep it a buck.

1237
01:37:04.399 --> 01:37:09.039
Let's keep it a buck. Since
you want to talk about fandom, I'm

1238
01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:15.199
sorry. Portis nor Conington are trade
assets, so neither trade could just be

1239
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:17.680
centered around them. They're not assets, Okay, they're just pieces. So

1240
01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:21.239
you know we got assets Chap,
so you know we have assets Boat Champing

1241
01:37:21.279 --> 01:37:27.079
for middle Those are the ass he's
older. We're talking about older guys here,

1242
01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:29.680
and the Bucks aren't trade Middleton.
We know that. Yeah, but

1243
01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:32.159
we're talking about older guys here.
I get you. I get you.

1244
01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:36.840
This has been another episode of ninety
four. So we're up. Just so

1245
01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:43.239
America is clear, we do not
have an agreement, nor do we think

1246
01:37:44.279 --> 01:37:46.319
we are not on the same page
as how the Bucks of the tress.

1247
01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:53.399
What's happening on our roster? Mind
you, America, we are here debating

1248
01:37:53.520 --> 01:38:00.439
this for a third seated team,
a third seated team. Have we become

1249
01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:05.199
that line that the Bucks can't make
any mistakes? Have we become hold of

1250
01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:10.560
have we become that arrogant that the
Bucks have to win it every year?

1251
01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:14.720
You take that that packer mentality out
the window. Okay, that's what you're

1252
01:38:14.720 --> 01:38:15.920
doing. Don't do that. Don't
you do that. Don't you take that

1253
01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:23.000
packer mentality over here. That's that's
the packer, that's the packers, that's

1254
01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:27.199
the cowgirls, that's that packer stuff. And then by the time, right,

1255
01:38:27.399 --> 01:38:30.039
good people, by the time the
boat sink, then you want to

1256
01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:33.760
hop off the ship, hop off
the ship rally. Anyway, let's wrap

1257
01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:45.760
it up. Uh, but anyways, this has been another episode of ninety

1258
01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:49.920
four feet by cast. Shout out
to my brother Kesey. Appreciate it good

1259
01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:59.399
being here. Appreciated being here again
with you suckers well sucker and my brother

1260
01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:02.439
Trey, thank you for coming in
on the brother dre. Yeah we are

1261
01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:09.479
the brother title. It's been good, y'all. I always enjoyed this THEAE

1262
01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:13.720
ninety minutes with my brothers. You
can get us on on all social media

1263
01:39:13.800 --> 01:39:16.319
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1264
01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:21.079
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1265
01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:26.600
Agree with us, probably not.
This is ninety four feet podcast. Peace, good people