1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,080 Let's begin with our Big Twelve breakdown this week time, which Joe Thomas Bridge 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,679 is here with you with a comprehensive look around the Big Twelve of this week 3 00:00:08,759 --> 00:00:13,359 and a more condensed version of the breakdown this week as we only have one 4 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:17,719 game to talk about it the Big Twelve championship game between Texas and Oklahoma State. 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,000 We will get to that in just a moment, but first our hot 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:27,679 takes that we begin with each and every week here on the show. Tom 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:33,920 I told you last week that my hot take was that Texas was gonna get 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,880 screwed by the Committee and that they were probably going to take Alabama over Texas. 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,960 If that were to happen, I'll even go step further. I don't 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,439 even think they're going to get the opportunity to get screwed by the Committee. 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:52,200 To be honest, I think that well, Texas will still think they're screwed. 12 00:00:53,079 --> 00:00:57,399 But I think what's gonna happen is that you're going to see this weekend. 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,880 I'm just gonna go ahead and lay all my picks out in the line. 14 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:07,400 Oh, I think Georgia wins over Alabama. I think that we see 15 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:18,359 Oregon beat Washington and Florida State beat Louisville and Michigan beat Iowa, and so 16 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:23,799 Oregon gets in the playoff over Texas for that final spot. They might even 17 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:27,400 jump all the way to three and move Florida State down to four. Uh, 18 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,840 and Texas is gonna be the first team out. Like I would I 19 00:01:32,879 --> 00:01:36,400 would say I would rather have Texas in the playoffs than Oregon. I think 20 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:40,519 with the the win they had against Alabama, that non conference win, that 21 00:01:40,519 --> 00:01:45,640 that should mean something. But the committee already likes Oregon as is it's been 22 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,719 evident the entire time. And then if you beat an undefeated Washington team and 23 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:53,200 Avenger one loss of the season, I just don't see there being a bath 24 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:59,680 in Texas. If if Florida State wins and and you know, Georgia beats 25 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,560 Aliba. That's that's my take this week, that there's just no path to 26 00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:06,840 the playoff for Texas. I don't think I think Texas will beat Oklahoma State, 27 00:02:06,879 --> 00:02:09,759 but I think they're gonna be left in the outside looking at I'm gonna 28 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:15,240 do a bigger hot take. Okay, I'm gonna go Georgia. Georgia will 29 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:23,919 beat Alabama, Michigan will obviously beat Iowa, Oregon will beat Washington, Louisville 30 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:34,479 beats the non Jordan Travis FSU team Oklahoma State game winner over Texas and we 31 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:43,639 get chaos. Ooh okay, So let's play out that scenario then, Tom, 32 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:49,680 because it could happen in your case. Georgia's in, Michigan's in, 33 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:57,800 Oregon is in. Do you take and Texas is out? So do you 34 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:05,240 go with George or Ohio State getting the final spot in the playoff? Georgia 35 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Bama Ohio State? Well, I thought, oh, well, no, 36 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,599 two losses then right, so they would be out, so it would be 37 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:17,439 Ohio State that could get in. And then who would be the next I 38 00:03:17,479 --> 00:03:21,800 think that would be it. That would just be Ohio State or Florida State 39 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:30,000 and Florida State losing because the Ohio State Michigan game was great, I think 40 00:03:30,039 --> 00:03:35,599 the voters would probably take Ohio State in at the four and be Georgia, 41 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:38,759 Ohio State Michigan versus Oregon. So and your so that is a hot take 42 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:44,759 on your part because that is a very slim door that would be open for 43 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,879 Ohio State to make the playoff? Is that door you just presented? But 44 00:03:47,919 --> 00:03:52,960 it could It could very well happen. Right. We know the history of 45 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:58,919 Oklahoma State Texas. You mentioned it earlier. Oklahoma State has nothing to lose, 46 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:05,759 Texas has everything to lose. FSU doesn't have Jordan Travis though Louisville did 47 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:14,560 lose when they shouldn't have right to Kentucky. Yeah, but that's not to 48 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:20,240 say they could bounce They couldn't bounce back and win. Yeah. I think 49 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:27,480 you know I'm team chaos. I'm all for chaos too. In that case, 50 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,240 Ohio State getting we would project Ohio State in over Florida State. In 51 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:39,800 that case, I think they're one loss being Michigan and FSU having a Louisville 52 00:04:39,879 --> 00:04:44,040 loss that is not as good as a loss as Michigan, and the non 53 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:47,680 conference wins you would have in Ohio State, Ohio State beating Notre Dame, 54 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:59,800 but you'd have Florida State beating LSU SU Florida ooh man. But it comes 55 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,240 down of that four best teams argument too. It's you know, this thing 56 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,920 gets so complicated, Tom, because you know, we're so used in our 57 00:05:08,319 --> 00:05:14,720 minds selection Sunday of college basketball. If everything's resume based, right, everything, 58 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:17,800 and we go to college football and we were reminded by Bill Hancock, 59 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,560 Oklahoma State grad by the way of the playoff committee this week, he said, 60 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,399 remember, number one job of the committee is the four best teams, 61 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:33,680 not the four best resumes, but the four best teams. And if Florida 62 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:39,680 State loses this week, then there is no path. There is no argument 63 00:05:39,959 --> 00:05:43,120 none you could make. Like I would sit here and say, yes, 64 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:46,839 put Ohio State. I would have no problem at all. Something you might 65 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:50,199 say, well, that's not fair for Florida State's goal as long as they 66 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,519 did and lose in the final game and they're out of the playoffs, Like, 67 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,600 well, I mean that sucks. It sucks as the way it is. 68 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,519 The Ohio State losing the Michigan last week, to you know, it 69 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,079 was it was at Michigan and they had a chance to win at the end 70 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:11,120 they lost it by six, right, I mean I would like to see 71 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:15,800 Georgia Ohio State. I wouldn't. I mean, And if you want to 72 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,959 take a little bias in the rankings that if Ohio State was to beat Georgia 73 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,959 and then to beat Michigan for the ship, oh my, I mean it 74 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,160 almost beat Georgia last year in the semi final. I mean, yeah, 75 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,519 Ohio State is still a good team. I mean, if that game is 76 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:40,519 at the Shoe, you know, I wouldn't say Ohio State definitely wins. 77 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:47,879 But I think it's as interesting, right, you have you have potentially the 78 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,000 outside of quarterbacks you want to talk about the most electric or the best player 79 00:06:54,040 --> 00:07:00,480 in college football, and Marvel's Marvin Harrison junior, right, and you have 80 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,800 the the other kid, uh Abukaka. Yeah, yeah, I mean this 81 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:10,480 might be the top two receivers in football. I mean, that's that's kind 82 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:15,759 of going back to when LSU had Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. Yeah. 83 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:20,600 I mean, come on, I mean, I if you want to put 84 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,240 two new receivers in the league after this year, if you want to say 85 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:29,439 Jamar or you know, the new Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, I wouldn't 86 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:33,360 be opposed to saying that that's probably a good possibility. Now let me bring 87 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:39,079 up another case here as far as for Texas at all time. Let's let's 88 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:49,639 say that Alabama beats Georgia. Okay, then you know, do we have 89 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:58,199 a situation where Alabama could jump Texas. Paul Finebaum's already talking saying that Alabama 90 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:05,959 is more deserving than in a state right now as is, and if they 91 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:11,879 beat number one Georgia, is there a way that they could jump Texas and 92 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:15,680 get in? Can the committee say, look, we understand that game was 93 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,839 in September, that Texas won by double digits, but we feel like Alabama's 94 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:24,600 a better team right now. They're a different team than what they were, 95 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:28,399 Like, I mean, the committee does make up their own rules. Essentially, 96 00:08:30,839 --> 00:08:35,759 it is hard for me until I actually see it with my own eyes 97 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:41,200 a world where Alabama could be an SEC champion and not miss the playoff, 98 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,279 Like if they win, it's gonna be awfully hard to keep them out, 99 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:46,759 I think. I mean, yeah, I did see a Renne post today 100 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:54,840 about a in a universe where there's not an SEC team in the playoffs where 101 00:08:54,879 --> 00:09:03,720 if Alabama won, it could be Michigan or again Texas Florida State. Right, 102 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,960 what if that happens? I hate that for Florida State because I have 103 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,240 no ill will against Florida State. I think they've always been on my list 104 00:09:13,279 --> 00:09:16,600 to go to, like a game. I'm sure they beat os U, 105 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,840 and OSU did the Trail Tears banner and they beat OSU. I have no 106 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:26,120 ill will against Florida State, and I think their pregame is one of the 107 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,720 best. I hate that for them, though, because even if they win, 108 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:33,559 you still have the bias of, well, your quarterbacks hurt, you're 109 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:39,480 gonna get absolutely shit on in the playoffs, and they kind of know that, 110 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,240 I think. I mean, if you would have told me Michigan was 111 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:46,039 gonna get beat by TCU last year, I might have been like, well, 112 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:48,960 we were gonna find out. They did. So the best time that 113 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:52,679 can happen, the best thing that can happen, Sorry, Florida States, 114 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,720 but the best thing that can happen this weekend is Louisville take care of business, 115 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:03,320 and then we can figure out the four best teams from there. I 116 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:09,279 don't think that Florida State is one of the four best teams in the country, 117 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:13,879 but they are one of the four most deserving, and that's just a 118 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,279 tough bill to swallow, I mean, and that they do end up beating 119 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,240 Louisville, which Louisville, you know, really, Louisville had no business losing 120 00:10:24,279 --> 00:10:30,840 to Kentucky last week. They literally shit the bed, and granted was at 121 00:10:30,919 --> 00:10:37,240 Kentucky. They came back in the second half and just made me lose all 122 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,440 faith in Louisville. See if they can bounce back. You know, you're 123 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:46,720 facing a Florida State team that is a Mike Norvel great coach. And it 124 00:10:46,879 --> 00:10:52,000 sucks that Jordan Travis got hurt because if he doesn't get hurt, I think 125 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:56,320 Florida State has a close to fifty chance to win that first game of the 126 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,799 playoff and be in the national championship game. I think they could, but 127 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:07,159 without him, it just doesn't make And this sucks. I hate to say 128 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,279 it, but this is the real fucking world. Without Jordan Travis, it 129 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,759 doesn't do well for the TV ratings. And if it comes down to that, 130 00:11:15,919 --> 00:11:22,080 they're gonna get left out. Yeah, Texas would be better for TV 131 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,799 ratings than Florida State would be if it came down to those two. I'm 132 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:30,279 sorry, I hate to say that I hate Texas. I don't have, 133 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:35,480 like I said, don't have any ill will against Florida State. And that's 134 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:39,039 what town like. This is the best year of parody we've had in a 135 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,840 long time. Oh yeah, the twelve team playoff would have been awesome this 136 00:11:43,919 --> 00:11:46,679 year. I mean, we would our conversation this week if we had a 137 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:54,799 twelve team playoff would be is is Texas going to lose or is there gonna 138 00:11:54,799 --> 00:11:58,559 be enough scenarios play out where Oklahoma slides into the playoffs? That would be 139 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,639 our argument if we were in a twelve teams scenario this year over like an 140 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:05,480 Old Miss, Yeah, right, because Oklahoma would be the last team out 141 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,919 right now, an Old Miss would probably be the first team in or the 142 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,720 last team in, right with Tulane having an automatic bid from the Americans. 143 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,639 All right, So that would that's what we'd be looking at in that case. 144 00:12:20,159 --> 00:12:24,480 With that said, with where we're at now, I think tom realistically 145 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,639 teams capable of winning the national Championship. I think Georgia can win it. 146 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:35,120 I think Michigan can win it. I think Alabama can win it. I 147 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:41,240 think Texas can win it. Oregon and Washington all what is that six teams 148 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,120 can win the national championship. I don't think Ohio State can. I think 149 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,759 Ohio State's really good, but I don't think they're a championship team. And 150 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,320 same with Florida State. I think Florida State is really good, but I 151 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,519 don't think they're a championship team. But that's six teams right there are all 152 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,960 capable within the national title. I would the best thing that can happen is 153 00:13:01,039 --> 00:13:07,240 Florida State just go ahead and go out the pasture Louisville and let's get four 154 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:13,120 championship caliber teams in the playoffs. Yeah, you know this is this has 155 00:13:13,159 --> 00:13:18,200 been like the most controversial or like you said, you can, you can. 156 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:26,279 I think parody and controversial here are pretty synonymous, and I bet it 157 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,799 that makes it exciting. Like look at the Big twelve race this year, 158 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:35,759 one of the most controversial and also one of the most parody driven. After 159 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,200 the Red River shootout, we obviously thought it would be OU Texas and the 160 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:46,240 game. And look how that race broke out in the last final four games. 161 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,720 It was amazing. And I would say that even if I WashU didn't 162 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:56,039 make it. But here we have that same problem in the college fallow playoffs, 163 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,639 and it only hammers the nail further into the wood that there should be 164 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:05,519 a twelve team playoff. I wonder who's gonna get left out? And if 165 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:09,720 I had to, if I was a betting man and it was legal here 166 00:14:09,759 --> 00:14:15,759 in Texas and you can bet on it, I'm probably putting Florida State out. 167 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,799 But hot take this week, I've been right on a hot maybe one 168 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:24,720 or two or three hot takes this year. My hot take this week pretty 169 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,360 it's pretty pretty hot. I wouldn't say it's boiling water at this point, 170 00:14:30,279 --> 00:14:35,240 but I'd say if you stuck your hand in it, it would hurt. 171 00:14:35,559 --> 00:14:41,320 Oh, I Sho gets the dub A or Georgia wins, Oregon wins, 172 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,919 Florida State loses to Louisville, and then we get absolute chaos for the fourth 173 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:54,360 team in with no no real way to judge who should be next. Yes, 174 00:14:54,519 --> 00:15:00,559 so your final four teams, Tom, go over those again? Final 175 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:03,519 four teams? Yes, I mean the hot takes. The hot takes are 176 00:15:03,639 --> 00:15:07,200 shits and giggles. There's a real like a realistic one, and there's a 177 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:11,320 one that's team chaos. Which one do you want? Give me your real 178 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:22,279 final four pick? Real final four pick Georgia Michigan Oregon. As much as 179 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:28,720 I hate to say it, Uh, Texas Okay, And so you have 180 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,399 Georgia's the one seed, Florida Texas as the four seed meeting the Sugar Bowl. 181 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,639 Michigan, Oregon is the two and three seeds meeting in the Rose Bowl. 182 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,960 I have I think it's I think it goes chock. I think that 183 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:52,840 Georgia wins, Michigan wins, Oregon wins, Florida State, and Texas both 184 00:15:52,879 --> 00:16:00,519 win, and that we see Georgia versus Florida State in the Sugar Bowl, 185 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:07,159 Michigan versus Oregon in the Rose Bowl. Oregon jumps up to three with you 186 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,360 know, getting that win over Washington and tom in what is the swan song 187 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,480 for the PAC twelve and seeing that conference die. Wouldn't it be a beautiful 188 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:22,840 thing if they went out with a traditional Big ten PAC twelve Rose Bowl for 189 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:27,240 one last time. If we got that Michigan Oregon matchup or Michigan Washington matchup, 190 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:33,879 either one Michigan organ matchup would be a must watch. Like if you 191 00:16:33,879 --> 00:16:36,759 had a if you had a tender date that night, you fucking cancel it. 192 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,000 You tell her coming over and we're watching the game, yeah, one 193 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,519 of the two, and we're not this, ain't watch this, ain't watched 194 00:16:44,559 --> 00:16:48,840 the semi final and chill. This is like listen here, don't even look 195 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:52,120 at it. You know, like the Oregon would be an all time game. 196 00:16:53,399 --> 00:16:57,639 Yeah, I do believe so. I kind of want to see that. 197 00:16:57,759 --> 00:17:04,359 I don't like either team uh, and I really don't like Michigan and 198 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:11,400 and reasons, and said I I don't hope. I really hope Michigan does 199 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,960 not make it out of the semi final for a couple of reasons. But 200 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,839 god, it would be a great game. I know it would be a 201 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:26,720 great game. I think that would be the best game out of the three 202 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:30,200 games that will we played in the college football playoffs. Yeah. I think 203 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,559 you're right. I think you're right about that. If Georgia shits the bead, 204 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:42,039 if Alabama comes back, converts a fourth and thirty one and goes in 205 00:17:42,079 --> 00:17:52,920 to Atlanta and beats brock Bowers and Georgia, hoh my god, what's the 206 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,319 line? I haven't even looked at the line. What's the line there? 207 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:03,839 Georgia by Georgia seven six? Yeah, and they've won. They've won what 208 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:10,319 like twenty six in a row? Yeah. I mean at that point, 209 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,160 it's kind of like betting on Christian McCaffrey, like to get a touchdown each 210 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,039 game for as long as that lasted, Right, I think that game. 211 00:18:18,079 --> 00:18:23,440 I think that was like twenty six games or something crazy. Right, If 212 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:30,920 you're a betting man, you're you're never betting against Georgia until they lose, 213 00:18:30,039 --> 00:18:37,720 right right, Yeah, it'll be fun. The Big twelve title game this 214 00:18:37,799 --> 00:18:42,720 week Texas and Oklahoma State. Let's let's talk about that here, Tom. 215 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,680 For me, coming down to one thing, Uh, if Texas can stop 216 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,839 Ollie Gordon, if they can stop the run, they're gonna win this game. 217 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,359 I think with ease, if they can do that, I don't think 218 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,440 they're necessarily going to do that, though I expect this to be a competitive 219 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:02,319 game. I do think Texas will pull it out and win, probably by 220 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,559 seven or seven to ten, something like that. But you know, the 221 00:19:07,599 --> 00:19:11,200 Texas I think took a step in the right direction with how they performed against 222 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,359 Texas Tech. I think they look like the team that we saw against Alabama, 223 00:19:17,559 --> 00:19:21,119 you know, back in September. Here, Texas to me that that's 224 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,799 gonna be the key. If they can shut down Oli Gordon, then this 225 00:19:23,799 --> 00:19:27,319 this could turn into a runaway potentially. But I expect Oli to be have 226 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,640 a good game. I think ellener worthy eventure At the end of the day, 227 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,839 I think there's too many weapons from Texas for OSU to be able to 228 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:40,359 slow down here. Yeah, you know, the hot take is obviously there's 229 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,240 no money on the line here. We make these hot takes every week to 230 00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:47,039 have fun with it, and there's no consequences if we're wrong, other than 231 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,480 somebody listening to be like, hah, fuck you go to Texas, you 232 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:55,839 know, and if that happens, come at me Bro. Realistically, if 233 00:19:55,839 --> 00:20:00,240 I was to really put money down on this, I think right now that 234 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:04,920 line stands at fifteen and a half for Texas. I think Oklahoma State covers. 235 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,000 I think they cover. Realistically, if I'm betting, I don't think 236 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,920 Oklahoma State wins. You have Jordan Winnington, you have the Sanders tight end 237 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:21,000 kid. You have obviously Xavier A. Worthy, who is probably his last 238 00:20:21,319 --> 00:20:25,000 if Texas doesn't go to the playoff for whatever reason, whether that be they 239 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:29,079 lose or they get left out. I don't think Xavier Worthy plays the bowl 240 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,559 game that's not a playoff game very well could be his last game as a 241 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:38,319 college student athlete. One of the better wide receivers we've seen come through. 242 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:48,839 You have. You don't have Brooks are that running back towards ACL, but 243 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:56,039 you do have the Jaden Blue kid who has shown a speed against Tech. 244 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:02,559 You also have Devandre Sweat just won the Big twelve Player Defensive Player of the 245 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,920 Year. Should be in my eyes, a first round pick if he goes 246 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,559 to the draft, which I believe you will. He's showed an incredible athleticism 247 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:18,960 Texas all the talent that they usually have is finally shown up. Sarkesian gets 248 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:22,960 left out of the Big Twelve Coach of the Year, which I think is 249 00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:29,160 fucking hilarious. Should have It should have really been Neil Brown to win the 250 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,680 Coach of the Year, not Mike Gundy. Neil Brown. We don't say 251 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,960 anything positive about Neil Brown around here. He should have. I mean sark 252 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:42,400 sark had the talent, he had the quarterback win the quarterback. They were 253 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,119 picked to win that. They were picked already to win the Big Twelve championship 254 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:52,839 West Virginia. West Virginia is to pick finish like West Virginia was picked to 255 00:21:52,839 --> 00:21:59,039 finish like twelve recruitings half the job. Sark did the job. Yeah, 256 00:21:59,079 --> 00:22:02,000 I mean, I could you know, with a with Yeah, with a 257 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,559 with a fucking six pack and a set of big arms, I could get 258 00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:10,000 a blow job every night too. You know. It'd be like it'd be 259 00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:12,720 like me in the shape I'm in going out and getting a ten at one 260 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,720 of these San Antonio bars where it's hard to find down here, big old 261 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:19,359 woman san Antonio. It's like me going out to bar getting a blowjob from 262 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,240 a ten. I'd win the Coach of the Year. I mean, Sarks 263 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:29,559 going out with a set of big muscles, good looking and got a six 264 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:36,599 pack, and and the people congratulating him that were there do what they hadn't 265 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,519 been able to do that the last few coaches that were there. Well, 266 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:42,039 that's true, but I mean that's I don't know if that's more about the 267 00:22:42,039 --> 00:22:49,440 coach or the culture of the Texas program. You know, Sarks an right 268 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:55,119 coach. I think you know, I think he fits Texas program pretty well. 269 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,839 Yeah, but it's it's I don't know, like winning coach of the 270 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,480 year. Winning with what he's got. It's like, all right, great, 271 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,960 you've got, you know, one of the better quarterbacks, pretty good 272 00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:11,119 running back, one of the probably the best receiving corps in the Big twelve. 273 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,519 Right, and ah, let's do the first round picks on the D 274 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,599 line. Let's uh, let's move on out to some coaching changes real quick. 275 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:26,680 Let's start with the Big twelve stuff. Jeff Levy uh leaves ouz Oc 276 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,319 he's headed to Mississippi State to be their next head coach. UH Cethel Treill 277 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:36,599 UH is their new offensive coordinator along with Joe John Finley. UH OU fans 278 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,640 weren't too big a fans of Jeff Levy in that offense. I know that 279 00:23:40,839 --> 00:23:44,599 statistically was fantastic, but you know, went through a lot of peaks and 280 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,000 valleys throughout the year. Cethil Treill has an excellent track record. I thought 281 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,000 he did a great job as head coach in North Texas. I thought he 282 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:53,000 got screwed over. It should have been fired there. If you're an OU 283 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,440 fan, I think you got to be happy. I think you upgraded OC's 284 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,440 here. Tom. That's what you were asking before they were asked for that 285 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,240 all season. You know, I think for the m you got what you 286 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,400 wanted. Hell. I wish I wish Oklahoma State, even though they're in 287 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,319 in the in the Oklahoma or in the Big Deald Championship. I wish they 288 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:17,599 had the balls to fire their offensive coordinator, but they you know, or 289 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,839 I would I would have tell Jeff Levy. I wish Jeff Levy would have 290 00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:25,200 come to Stillwater. They would have got rid of done. I mean, 291 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,920 listen, Oh, you thought they had it bad, but they really didn't 292 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,839 have it as bad as Oklahoma State has it right now. I mean, 293 00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:36,319 and for Levy to turn that into a Power five job in the SEC, 294 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,960 he he hit the jack pretty good. Yeah. You know Mississippi State, 295 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:47,119 you know they're not top tier, they're more like less a little less the 296 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:52,599 middle pack. But I mean, you go get a head coaching job at 297 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:56,400 Mississippi State. Would you rather that the OC job with Bobby Patrino in Arkansas? 298 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,680 I mean, oh, I'd rather be head coach Missipi State. Yeah, 299 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,400 you're right, I mean Stark Vegas, Levy and Stark Vegas. Yeah, 300 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,799 that's gotta be a good time. Dana out at Houston, he's fired. 301 00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:14,799 They were disappointing this year. I know there wasn't high hopes, but 302 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,279 you know they go a different direction. They got a ton of money at 303 00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:22,440 that program. I mean, the owner of the Rockets is there, you 304 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,119 know, border Regent's president, and he's now fraid, you know, afraid 305 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,200 to throw down cash. Tom. I know you've been real high at Jeff 306 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,920 Trailer, the head coach at UTSA. It sounds like he's the favorite to 307 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,160 take that Houston job. I think that'd be a great fit for them. 308 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:45,000 You know what, I thought that Texas A and M might go with Jeff 309 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:48,880 Trailer. They go Elco instead, you know who I think would be really 310 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:55,720 interesting. And you know, you talk about and this is very this is 311 00:25:55,759 --> 00:26:00,559 funny, like a regional funny. You talk about Trailer your three hours you 312 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:06,920 know utsa San Antonio, three hours from Houston. Well that's that's coming from 313 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,759 the west. Well look about coming from the east. What about Willie Fritz. 314 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:18,920 What if the winner of that Conference USA title game or American I guess 315 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,039 it would be two lane one. But yeah, I guess you have read 316 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,200 lastly at SMU. I mean, what if whoever comes out with the best 317 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,960 record among those group of five teams gets the Houston job. If they just 318 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,799 yeah, they they take the SMU coach and they tell Fritz and Trailer. 319 00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:40,359 I'm like, all right, whoever whoever comes out on top of this little 320 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,720 uh three man race gets the job. I like Willie Fritz. I'm surprised 321 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,440 that Willi Fritz after last year, with the year that Tulane had, was 322 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,440 it last year they took ou to the brink? It's the year before last 323 00:26:55,519 --> 00:27:00,759 year, before last year, they beat USC and K State. I mean, 324 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,920 yeah, I mean in Tulane looking fire. I mean, and what 325 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:10,599 TWU lanes got? When is that game? Is that? Is that a 326 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,519 that's a Saturday game? Two lane? And then okay, so the maction 327 00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:22,519 is is mactions on Saturday too? I guess the only conference championship game is 328 00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:32,720 PAC twelve. Yeah mmmm shame Yeah, I mean personally, I being here 329 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:40,559 in San Antonio and seeing that the just the success Trailers had and and there's 330 00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:47,720 even rumors Trailer should have that Baylor should have fired Randa and went with Trailer, 331 00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:53,119 which wouldn't have been a bad pick up. You know, Trailer is 332 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,880 gonna be a power I guess you could power four coach. Now he's it's 333 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,839 sooner than later. It's getting I think Fritz is on that same path. 334 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,759 Frits is on that same path. I like Fritz over Trailer in Houston Moore. 335 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,640 But either either way, I I almost hate to say that it is 336 00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:18,839 obviously a Big twelve guy because it's I think Trailer and Fritz are both great 337 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:25,960 coaches. And now no matter what Houston's about to upgrade head coaches and a 338 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,000 little money, you know, their facilities are getting better. Houston could turn 339 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:34,359 into something with the right head coach. They got the resources to compete. 340 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:41,119 We'll see if they can put it together. We mentioned that Dave Randa was 341 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,559 retained, which you know, I'm not surprised about, but I do think 342 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:49,480 that's a mistake. Gus Malzahan got extended, and that's kind of the movement 343 00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:53,480 among big twelve coaches. And then just kind of the the big hires we've 344 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:59,480 seen A and M goes Elco. They did have Mark Stoops for about three 345 00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:03,920 hours and then they left him on the tarmac real quick time. On this 346 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,960 one. Elko I think is a good higher and he's got Texas and him 347 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,279 ties and everything, but I don't think that he's any better than Mark Stoops. 348 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,880 I didn't get the outrage about Mark Stoops. I thought either one of 349 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,519 them would have been just fine, would have been better than Jimbo Fisher. 350 00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:21,759 Both of them have good track records. Yeah, I think so too, 351 00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:26,599 And obviously Duke I feel a little I do and don't feel for Duke because 352 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,839 they're gooding basketball, but as soon as they have a little bit of football 353 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,200 success, it would have been like taking Lance Slidepole. If Lance Sliepole wasn't 354 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:41,359 if he wasn't loyal to Ku already, Like Duke had one good thing going 355 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,400 for him in football, and it's like IM just getting back to the shittle 356 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:49,200 Now. The team that everybody's kind of feeling for is Oregon State. Not 357 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:55,000 only do they lose their conference and all their rivals and all that, but 358 00:29:55,799 --> 00:30:00,799 their own son, Jonathan Smith, who played quarterback with Ocho s and t 359 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,319 J. Huschman Zada, left them as their head coach after their best season 360 00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:10,200 in years to go take the Michigan State job. They're calling him a trader 361 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,359 and all this, and and you know, how could he leave us when 362 00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:17,240 we're down? Like, I'll be honest, I know it sucks Oregon State. 363 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,720 You don't deserve this, but Jonathan Smith didn't have a choice. He 364 00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:25,319 had to look out for his own interest and you know, for his own 365 00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:29,559 coaching career and his Michigan State job. Just with the way the college football 366 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,519 landscape's going, he had to look out for himself. And I don't blame 367 00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:34,160 it at all from taking this Michigan State job. I think Michigan State got 368 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,880 a hell of a coach. Yeah, I think they got one of the 369 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,880 better ones too, And you know, for Oregon State. Do feel bad 370 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,279 for them, but like you said, looking out for himself, the money 371 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:49,480 was drying up. If if the realignment never really happens, or if Oregon 372 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,200 State, let's say Oregon State Washington State got on the boat and got into 373 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:59,079 the Big twelve, I don't think Brooks leaves. Yeah, I really don't 374 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:03,480 like if if he got uh, if Oregon State moves into a power now 375 00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:07,519 power four, I guess he doesn't. He doesn't leave, and it's unfortunate 376 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,359 for him. And it looks like the mass exodus is upon us for Oregon 377 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:18,119 State. It looks like them in Washington State have scheduled all Mountain West Conference 378 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,319 teams outside a few non con and so now you put them on the level 379 00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:26,559 of Boise State. So Brooks got to get out. Jones another one that 380 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:32,759 came up today. What do you think about Colorado O C Sean Lewis going 381 00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:37,160 to San Diego State. Good for him, especially after getting demoted by Dion 382 00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:41,200 and getting out of that circus. And you don't want to be a narcissist. 383 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,720 I don't know about Travis Hunter's future, and and they're losing recruits left 384 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,920 and right. Good for Sean Lewis. I mean, he left a head 385 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,720 coaching job at Kent State to take that job, so good for him. 386 00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:57,240 As far as I'm concerned, Big twelve hoops real quick. Won't spend much 387 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,519 time on this at all. Tom, I gotta say, I'm a little 388 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:06,359 surprised at how some of this stuff is shaken out already. You know, 389 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,400 Ku lost to an ugly game last week to Marquette, had a nice bouncel 390 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,079 back win against Tennessee. They're six and one now. They didn't look so 391 00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:19,279 great against Eastern Illinois the other night, but then you got Houston looking good 392 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,119 at seven and oh, they're finally about to be tested, you know, 393 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,160 with you know, playing some tougher opponents coming up here with the Big twelve, 394 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,319 Big East battle coming up this weekend, and they'll play Xavier here in 395 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:34,559 the coming days. They play Texas A and M here in a couple of 396 00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:38,680 weeks. Baylor is shocking everybody. They're they're you know, they were checked 397 00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:42,200 to have a down year this year, you know, top twenty twenty five 398 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,279 team, their ninth in the country at seven and oh, but the big 399 00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:49,599 surprises b Yu, who was picked to finish thirteenth in the Big Twelve. 400 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:52,279 They keep on rolling. They had to win against San Diego State, which 401 00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:58,480 shocked everybody. Now they've cracked the top twenty nineteenth in the country. And 402 00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:02,200 oh you the year that Porter Moser was on the hot seat, a lot 403 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,880 of question marks about him. And they go to the Ratty Children's Invitational. 404 00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:16,480 They'll just call it the Little Rascals Invitational children the Ratty Children's Invitational. Yes, 405 00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:22,640 and they beat Iowa and USC and they're undefeated and they're in the top 406 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:30,759 twenty five now sitting at five. I gotta say, Tom Big twelve over 407 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,039 performing. Already a very good league. We knew that going into this year. 408 00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:37,759 Now they look better than what we thought. I mean, yeah, 409 00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:43,799 I mean, so you're telling me that Brownie James transferred to OU is the 410 00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:49,400 thing? Maybe so, I mean he was, he's not playing yet after 411 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,720 that cardiac arrest. But but nice win for the Sooners. Yeah, I 412 00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:59,160 am legit surprised. And to see the way that that's worked out the way 413 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,920 it has you more shocking ors b Yu b Yu has got to be more 414 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,320 shocking because there was a little bit of expectations for them. It's pretty crazy. 415 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,519 Yeah. Uh, listen, Mormons Mormons. They don't drink. You 416 00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:15,880 know, they're going probably to bed early. They're you know, to bed 417 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,079 early, up early. What do you know, maybe it's maybe that's a 418 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:24,000 secret. Don't let your players go out to the strip. You might be 419 00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:30,280 on something. Big twelve Big East Battle games this weekend. UH. Thursday, 420 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:36,400 Tech takes on Butler, Creighton takes on os U. Friday, YU 421 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:42,840 con taxt On Kansas, Houston faces Xavier, Saint John's faces West Virginia, 422 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:49,880 Iowa State at DePaul on Friday, and then Saturday we get TCU in Georgetown. 423 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:54,119 Uh. Tom some excellent games in this big twelve, Big East Battle. 424 00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:59,320 UH. The Big East probably the second best conference in America, one 425 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:05,519 in two conferences here that the Ku Yukon game at Allen Field House, that 426 00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:07,960 that's going to be the marquee game. But we got some great matchups here. 427 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,920 I mean, yeah you want to I mean Houston Xavier solid. Obviously 428 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:22,920 Houston is up there ranked. I'm telling you what four and we talked I 429 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,559 don't know if we talked about this on the show or not, but you 430 00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:31,239 want to talk about Oklahoma State Creighton. Creighton obviously very good team. Oklahoma 431 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:38,039 State not a very good team. That is tonight on ESPN two. It's 432 00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:44,559 in Stillwater. You know, if I think this is one of those games 433 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:46,440 for Mike Boyton, then it's like, hey, you might want to pull 434 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:53,599 the ship off and beat a Creighton team. This would go a long way 435 00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:59,880 after your three and three start you lose to some shitty teams. This is 436 00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:02,800 one of those resume builders for Mike Boyton. When you talk about getting to 437 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:08,079 the big Dance, I think this is it's very early, But for Mike 438 00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:12,559 Boyden, I think this is. I don't want to call it a must 439 00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:16,880 win, but it's very close. Yeah. By the way, in case 440 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,800 people don't know, the guy that's been wanting that job for a decade, 441 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,679 Doug Gottlieb is living in Stillwater full time. He's working as an analyst on 442 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,159 that staff. I want to rule out the possibility if they don't turn around 443 00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:37,679 the ship soon, they could end up firing Boyton mid season and give Doug 444 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,159 a shot as interim head coach and see if he's got what it takes. 445 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:46,280 I that might be the opportunity Doug needs to get that job, is to 446 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:52,119 be the interim head coach and prove himself and instead of instead of firing Boyden 447 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,599 at the end of the season and then doing the coaching carousel, just give 448 00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:59,239 it to give it to Gottlieb and just say well, if it doesn't work 449 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,599 out, we're on the coach and carousel anyway, right say like, hey, 450 00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:05,239 you've never coached before, but we're gonna give you a shot right now. 451 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,079 Let's see what you can do with it. And if you can't, 452 00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:10,519 then we're gonna go elsewhere. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't 453 00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:15,880 think the game that you fire Mike Boyden over is Creighton if you lose. 454 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,800 But uh, I mean there's gonna be some questions. And we've talked about 455 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,800 this too on and off the show. I hate that for Mike Boyden because 456 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,599 great human being, great person great personality, great recruiter. If you're gonna 457 00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:32,880 make a change, you do it before conference play. Yeah. So, 458 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,599 now, if Mike Boyden goes out and beats Creighton, now and I know 459 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:42,239 this, and I hate this because this is in my eyes, Jones, 460 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,599 tell me what I want. Your opinion on this too. You come from 461 00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:51,800 a Boyden is offering two free tickets to the students that show up. You 462 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,360 show up and do whatever you have a chance to win Big twelve Championship tickets? 463 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,400 Is that and it's really just trying to get students to show up for 464 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:05,599 the game. Is that a poverty franchise move? I mean it is to 465 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:07,679 an extent, but I mean I can't blame him for trying to do what 466 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,920 they can. I mean, I can't blame them, but it's a little 467 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:15,719 poverty. Yeah. Uh that Kansas Yukon game. I gotta tell you, 468 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,679 I think Yukon is so stacked and Kansas looks a little off right now. 469 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,800 Uh, not where they should be. I know Bill self, you know, 470 00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,519 is always on his team's ass when it comes to non conference play. 471 00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:31,920 It takes time to get them to figure it out. But I do not 472 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,239 feel very confident at all, even playing at home on Friday against Yukon. 473 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,280 We'll see how it works out. There's people already camping out for that game 474 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:45,760 in sin Alan Fieldhouse. Oh yeah, yeah, since Tuesday. Yeah crazy. 475 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,239 We'll continue. Zach Fisher going to join us and so stick around for 476 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:57,440 that. Don't go anywhere, join us now the program this week. Please 477 00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:04,199 to welcome in from who at thirteen News in des Mooite, Iowa, y 478 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,280 Ka. You brethren, great friend, the one and only Zach Fisher is 479 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:13,280 here with US political reporter, Kansas sports fan, and more, and he 480 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,159 joins us right now, Zach, appreciate the time has always met. How 481 00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:20,159 we doing, Hyland's been good to see man chatting a little bit before we 482 00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:22,239 get on air here, I was wondering how many Kansas references you were gonna 483 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,119 have in the introduction, and there was two, and I find that appropriate. 484 00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:30,039 I find that spot on doing well though. Man, it's been good 485 00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:32,360 talking to you. I can't remember, Goodness, Weder, the last time 486 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,199 we would have seen each other in person. I can't really think of it. 487 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:38,400 It has been a minute, been too long, and we were just 488 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,840 talking before it went on air. That is going to change because I am 489 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,519 going to make my return to the state Iowa next summer for the NASCAR race 490 00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:50,639 up there. Yeah, I'm right, you're staying in my place ready to 491 00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:54,079 go about twenty miles out from the speedway here, So I mean it's going 492 00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:58,639 to be exciting. I was actually at that announcement when they announced it at 493 00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,639 the Iowa State House. They had the Bill France cup Tyler looked that name 494 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,199 up and I didn't look it up. He knew the name of it beforehand. 495 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,719 I'm not a huge huge racing guys here. Remind me of that, 496 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,480 so I was there. So they got Iowa Corn bring it on on a 497 00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:14,880 NASCAR So looking forward to it. Man, it's going to convert me to 498 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,119 a racing fan. I can't wait. I'm excited for you and to see 499 00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:22,039 first in and it should be a great time next summer. Zach, you're 500 00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:24,920 a big sports guy obviously, so we want to get to you talk some 501 00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:31,199 football here with you as well. Gotta start off with with our Jayhawks eight 502 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,760 and four go to a bowl game. How exciting was that to see this 503 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,119 team pull off what they did? Did an? I swin not too far 504 00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:40,679 from you, you know, and I was stayed here a couple weeks ago. 505 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,519 Do you make it after that game? I did not. I was 506 00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:45,159 working that day and I was actually at at a political event that night. 507 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,800 Go figure. That's what my weekends are full of this last year, political 508 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,480 events. But that was a great game. I actually was techting texting a 509 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:59,079 Kansas grid with Us Tyler during the Key State game and Freshman's in and we're 510 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,079 like, oh man, we thought it was gonna be bean And he was 511 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:05,480 frustrated, and I was like, hey, just hear me out. If 512 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,639 you win, you got a freshman in. If you lose, If you 513 00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:10,440 win, you get a freshman in. You beat k State, if you 514 00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:13,480 lose, you get a freshman so it's like a win win And he was 515 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:16,800 like, I'm tired of these moral victories. Never has a seven win season 516 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,800 at that time been a moral victory for Kansas football. So it's been great 517 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,280 just reminding Kansas football fans to like, these are the good time. We 518 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,599 haven't seen this. An eight win season is a massive deal. We wouldn't 519 00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:31,840 the entire time we were going to the school, Tyler. We weren't going 520 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,159 to game days tailgate and I mean, there was nothing to talk about for 521 00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:39,039 the football team. So I'm jealous. Oh yeah. The thing that impressed 522 00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:45,920 me so much, Zach, like seeing what Lance Leipol did of it wasn't 523 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,599 just about Jayalen Daniels, and it wasn't even just about Jason Bean either. 524 00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:53,440 The way that they were able to continue to adapt and evolve when injuries happened. 525 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,199 This team never gave up continue to compete. I mean, that's all 526 00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:00,960 you can ask for for a football fan, is you know, to see 527 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,960 a team go out there and give their best, and I mean that's what 528 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,280 we saw from these guys like Lanceliholt's done a terrific job and brought stability this 529 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,519 program. It's culture. I mean, when people and players go down that 530 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,960 are crucial to the success to what you think the success of your season is 531 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,199 going to be, and then you have people that are next man up mentality 532 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,400 that really speaks to the culture of what Leopold's building there at the University Kansas 533 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,320 that hasn't been there for years, that has not been there. So that's 534 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,679 been the really enjoyable thing to see, is you know, they get knocked 535 00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:37,000 down and they come right back up and start swinging again. Well, and 536 00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:40,000 then this new chapter of this new Big Twelve with Oklahoma and Texas out. 537 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,920 I don't know about you, Zac, but you know I get at Utah 538 00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:47,400 and Arizona and Arizona State. You got some good schools. It's gonna be 539 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,960 a good league going forward. But with the job Lance has done the foundation 540 00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:54,119 of the set, I don't see any reason why this Kansas program can't compete 541 00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:58,039 with everybody else this new Big Twelve. And I'd use that as a reason 542 00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:01,880 for him staying at Kansas as well too. If he's truly wanted to win 543 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,960 conference championships, then it's looking like this is a nice little window of opportunity 544 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000 here. Iowa State was one. If they beat Kansas when they were up 545 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,719 in names, Iowa State would be in the Big Twelve championship game too. 546 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,840 So just put that in perspective for people, and that's what's going to be 547 00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:22,159 really interesting. And that's the opportunity for a lot of these Big twelve football 548 00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:25,599 schools is there's going to be a ton of opportunity for who's going to step 549 00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:31,480 up and be the perennials as the Oklahoma's and the texas Is of the world. 550 00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:37,320 Yeah, you mentioned Texas. I'm sure you're excited to watch him football 551 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:42,639 this weekend, horns down absolutely with a college football playoff on the line and 552 00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:45,800 everything championship week. What are you looking forward to this weekend, Matt, 553 00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:52,880 I'm looking forward to so. I'm an Iowa football fan too from Des Moines, 554 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,599 so as a Hawky growing up Kansas jack now too, so getting over 555 00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:59,920 to the Big Ten, I'm very excited to see this over under a point 556 00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:05,360 five for Iowa playing Michigan, and then is such a painful brand of football. 557 00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:07,880 How can you guys not get any offense going? You know, it's 558 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,559 something that you're just like raised on, Tyler. It's been painful these last 559 00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:15,440 couple of years for sure, Like it hasn't been that bad, but it's 560 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:20,920 the conservative play calling. I mean, goodness, I'm five and you know, 561 00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:23,400 two thousand and two and why are we running the ball on third and 562 00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:27,599 eight? You know, I was goodness, I was raised in it. 563 00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:30,880 But yeah, it'll be you know, forty to zero or whatever it will 564 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,360 be. But ten wins is a big deal for the Hawkeyes too, So 565 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,440 hats off for them for losing players. Anyway, Championship football, this is 566 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,760 when the this is when the stars come out. And this is like I 567 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,360 watch NFL more than I do watch college football, watch all of my favorite 568 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,559 college football teams, but I watch every single one of these games coming up 569 00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:51,079 on championship winkend because there's so much on the line, not in terms of 570 00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:54,920 finishing your season making the playoffs, but for kids draft stock as well going 571 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,800 to the NFL. Yeah, what do you think's gonna be the four teams 572 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,679 advance of the playoff? Here is that? Man? Okay, so Iowa 573 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:09,079 wins fourteen to ten this weekend. Man, uh, it's the cool thing 574 00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:10,880 is it's kind of a toss up. I don't even know if I could 575 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,400 give you. I know they're talking about they're they're looking at Texas. Maybe 576 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,800 if they're able to sneak in on the back half there or two, that 577 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:22,760 might be a sneaky team. I don't know if I got I don't know 578 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,119 if I got to set four that I'm ready just to throw out to you 579 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,280 right now too. Other than other than the not just what about you, 580 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,559 Tyler, Let's let's come back with you. Let me hear your four. 581 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,159 Go on the record with four here. So my final four, I think 582 00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:38,800 Georgia wins. I think Michigan wins. Those are your first two. And 583 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:44,400 then I got Oregon beating Washington to the rematch to redeem their one loss from 584 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,159 earlier in the year. And I think Florida State squeaks went out against Louisville, 585 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,320 and that'll be your final four. I think Texas will win this week, 586 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,519 but I see that as the first team getting left out. Okay, 587 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,480 okay, I'm a fan of that. I think I think there's a chance 588 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,320 Florida State might lose, so that would be a window where I could see 589 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,800 Texas. I agree with everything else. We'll see about organ I guess too. 590 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,039 In the Washington there, they've been trending downwards too. Who did forest 591 00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:12,719 A just play last weekend? I was, I can't remember Florida, that's 592 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,840 right. Yeah, yeah, anyway, they barely h snuck it out against 593 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,119 them there too, so that was impressive. But can you do that? 594 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,320 How many times can you do that? You're just pushing or delaying the inevitable, 595 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,559 in my opinion, because without QB one probably not a whole lot of 596 00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:30,719 hope of one of the national championship. Yeah, yeah, no, Jordan 597 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,239 Travis, Yeah, it's a great point there, fish. How are you 598 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,360 feeling about what what Bill and the guys got cooked up there? On the 599 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,360 basketball side, No, we got an exciting game coming up Friday against the 600 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,000 Yukon here. Yeah. I saw a picture of some Kansas kids camping this 601 00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:47,960 morning too in allen Field. Else so that one. I was never a 602 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,719 big camper. Did you do that much? I did that freshman year for 603 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,920 our fraternity, So our fraternity freshmen go every single year that way, you 604 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,840 know, you do it one year and then the whole house is covered for 605 00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:04,079 for your next three years. So I did have early mornings I dot All 606 00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:06,400 freshman year, and it was fun. I mean, people bring their pillows 607 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,440 there, fall asleep, pass out in the stands. It was stressful too, 608 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:15,599 set up all the schedules. But going back to the Mall Invitational, 609 00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,920 you know Bill just reading him and stuff, you can kind of tell what 610 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,039 he's thinking. Five minutes left in that game, they just got it back 611 00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:25,360 down from fifteen to thirteen, and then it went back up to fifteen again. 612 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,480 Marquett's away and you just Bill's sitting down. You see his face, 613 00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,360 his energy's loved. It's like, yep, Bill knows we're not able to 614 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,280 win this one. So I just thought they're they're gonna have a lot of 615 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,880 running to do when they get back into the Lawrence. But it's exciting, 616 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,840 man. I mean, this is gonna be a team that's going to be 617 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:45,280 in the top five all year long. This is another one of these teams 618 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,960 you know, you have some every so often. Goodness would be the twenty 619 00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,639 twenty COVID year. I mean they were number one and both polls at the 620 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,119 end of that year. It's just one of those Bill self teams that you 621 00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:00,280 have the coach, But then this is one of his best rosters too that 622 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,920 he's had in his tenure. So I'm really excited. Oh yeah, I'm 623 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,440 with you there. I mean, watching Hunter Dickinson play, I don't think 624 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,679 I've ever seen a big man like that offensively at k you ever. I 625 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,119 mean, people are going to bring up Mbid, but he was a freshman. 626 00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:17,880 It was very raw and all that, and I mean, Dickinson just 627 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,280 looks like a complete player. He might be the shooter too, because that's 628 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,760 the one thing you notice when you watch this Kansas team. He's like, 629 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,280 who's that who's that guard, or who's that board that's going to stick out 630 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,880 and really get the job done there at three point? It might end up 631 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,920 being Dickinson. It might end up being the five. He's got a really 632 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,880 fluid shot, and it's it's it's just cool to see him work in Bill 633 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:44,000 system because it thrives with a big man that's able to put up points on 634 00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:47,480 a consistent basis. Udoka in a different way. Udoka wasn't a skilled with 635 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,599 dribbling or shooting or moves on the pulse, but I called him the plunger 636 00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:54,800 because he would just get crap through. He would just get it going. 637 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,880 If you didn't score in three possessions, feed it to Dickinson and get the 638 00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:02,480 offense going again. Those types of players are critical when it gets to March 639 00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:06,800 madness and you're down, you know, eleven, and you gotta call a 640 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,000 time out coming out of the break. Who do I go to? That's 641 00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:14,280 the guy? You go to? Fish? Where's the dog yet? Did 642 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:19,159 you see him right here? Bring you over? He was right here, 643 00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:22,000 so I thought he's gonna be right there on this corner. But he is 644 00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:24,920 just on his little uh set up right here. What you gonna say, 645 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:30,039 Hi? Bo? Right here? There you go? Well, there he 646 00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:32,519 is right by the tree. He's got he's set up by the window. 647 00:49:32,639 --> 00:49:36,320 So he just, uh, he's got to pay rent somehow, so he 648 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,719 just watches over my little corner of downtown in Moyne. He's already in the 649 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,679 holiday spirit. Yes, yeah, he's ready to go. Yeah. He's 650 00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:49,079 a Christmas dog. He uh he loves the holidays and his uh my parents, 651 00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:52,760 so his grandparents will call him. They get him all these Christmas toys 652 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,920 and stuff. So he's a big fan of this time of year. I 653 00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:58,559 love it. Uh bo, good boy. I look forward to me bow 654 00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:02,840 too. Uh you wanna so fish work if people follow you and see all 655 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,400 the stuff you're doing. If I can't pay trop man or ZACHARYC. Fisher 656 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:13,360 on Instagram, Zach Fisher News on X or Twitter dot com, can't call 657 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,960 it x dot com. I realized that the other day they'll never be able 658 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:21,119 to switch that obvious reason and Guinness, that's about it. Those two give 659 00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:24,239 you follow their WHO thirteen News. We're live on today and Iowa Saturday Sunday 660 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,320 eight to ten am on a weekend. So if you're in central Iowa, 661 00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:34,280 turn on the NBC affiliate Channel thirteen and see me there. Watch online if 662 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,800 you're whow thirteen dot com. Another one, good calls, Zach, thanks 663 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,400 so time, man, Glad you're doing great. Looking forward to seeing you 664 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,920 here next summer and we'll talk in down the line. Thanks for showing us 665 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,000 Man, Thanks for having me toy. I appreciate it. Man,