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Oh, hello, and welcome to
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doctor Harrison Davis and I'm doctor Asia
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Absolutely, because it seems like everybody's
in a really good mood, because

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we haven't received any man in a
while, and I'm going to take that

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as a great sign. Yeah.
I think it might be the summer,

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like people aren't coming to therapy and
stuff as much anymore. But that's okay,

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you know, just know that when
when the stars getting dark and cold

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again, we'll still be here.
I think school starts up and everybody gets

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back into the routing, but the
kids and everything, Oh, we're gonna

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get hit up again. So yeah, I'm not too worried about that.

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You know. I also realized earlier
today that's not just a lot of clinical

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experience we have. At this point
in my life, I may have a

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little more life experience than I thought
I did. I think I'm getting to

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that age where here younger cousins and
um kids of friends talk about stuff and

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I'm like, I don't do that. I already made that mistake for you.

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Yeah, a number you just started
giving people advice based on yours,

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not professional. I don't know what
that number is, but I can do

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that too. So I understand you
have a topic for us. I do.

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I do, And so I know
that this topic has been talked about

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a lot on social media and of
course on the news as well. And

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that topic is there's a young woman
by the name of Carly Russell and she

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was in I say, the Birmingham
area. I know that it was what

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its a suburb of Birmingham called Hoover
because that's where I used to live.

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And this young woman was getting off
of the exit, actually the exit where

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my home was when I used to
live over there, and she called the

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police saying that she saw a toddler
that was walking down the interstate. I

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guess, I don't know she looked
back around or what happened, but she

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apparently pulled off the interstate to see
about the child, trying to find the

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child, and then she disappeared.
So she was gone for I believe three

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days, I guess and find out, but about three days, and she

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returned home not too long ago,
which I was really excited about. They

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said she returned home alive and say
on Saturday night by herself. And I'm

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going to back up and say that
I was really touched like reading it,

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I got I got emotional because you're
not having a child. I'm about to

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sitting off to college, and you
know, she drops around coming back from

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work at nighttime. And this was
right there by the exit we used to

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get off of to go home,
and and she's she's in my sorority.

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So there were just so many things
that made me feel connected to her and

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the story, and it also upset
me to the point where you I,

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it's like another text message. You
have to send them to your kids.

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You think you go through all the
list of things to do and don't doing

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this like and oh yeah, never
stop on the interstate for anyone that you

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don't know. Yeah, for any
reason, I too was touched by the

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story, you know. And I
was amazed, um pleasantly amazed by how

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people were willing to help learned about
the story through social media and people sharing

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the posts, and you know,
you see it and here's a young woman,

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I believe a college graduate or she
was earning her degree. And you

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know, she wasn't out there,
you know, popping it like it's high.

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You know. She she was going
to work, she got off work,

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she was getting her mom a meal, and she called nine point one

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and told them that they she saw
a child on the side of the highway

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walking a toddler. It's a term
that they were using. And then she

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called her family while she was still
out there. And then that's where the

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family said the phone went dead.
And when the police showed up about three

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minutes later, the door was opened. I believe the engine was still running.

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Her wig was all phone was on
the ground, and so it looked

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very mysterious. You know. So
when I thought about it, I just

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thought about a thousands of young black
women out there who are doing the right

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thing, you know, and they're
going to college and they're working, and

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somehow this one got targeted by someone. And I'm still that's still my belief,

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you know, she got targeted by
someone. And it also made me

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start thinking about when my daughter starts
striving, you know, and it's so

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easy for someone to see a child
on the side of the road and pull

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over and wonder what's going on.
But it looked like it was a setup,

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you know, throughout throughout the weekend
when I heard the stories. Is

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that the impression that you got,
Yes, it was. And I know

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that there are a lot of things
that are done to lure lure young women

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and to sex trade into a number
of things. And I also know that,

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you know, children have been used
for a lot of things. Children

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were used during the Vietnam War to
get so just to come over there and

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get killed. So I mean she
came like a clever I think, yeah.

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Yeah. And what really upset me
besides what happened, was the some

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of the comments that I saw on
social media. People were saying things like

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the math thing math and then the
story's not making sense and why would you

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pull over on the interstate, Uh, if you saw a child. I

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mean, I can't say that I
wouldn't pull over if I saw a child.

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Now I'm not. I've again had
enough life experience and enough clinical experience

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that I may just follow behind the
child with my door locked and my lights

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on, and if somebody comes up
to me with a gun and something,

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I'm gonna roll over that person.
Then that child, child's gonna get run

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over. But unless you know,
or if you're unless you're hyper vigilant,

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it's like, be for real.
Most of y'all would have pulled over.

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And there were plenty of cars driving
down the interstate. That's a very busy

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place, and you're thinking, if
I get out, you know, other

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people will see. Yeah. I
didn't see those comments as I was scrolling

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through social media. Uh. It
was mostly from people who I'm friends with,

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and they were posting it and I
was watching what other people were saying.

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So so I need some better Facebook
friends. That they were reasonable,

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you know people. Everybody was concerned, and it's like you, you know,

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I thought it was reasonable to think
that she saw and not a talking

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like a toddler and diapers is what
she reported to the police, and um,

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and she pulled over to see what
was going on, you know.

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But but it goes to show you
the state we're in right now, where

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anything can be suspicious. Okay,
I wouldn't recommend to particularly young woman driving

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alone at night to even stop,
you know, call the police if you

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have to. You know, I've
learned from the young folks to a live

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stream. That's an idea. Okay, yeah, because those babies will live

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stream anything. Yeah. Yeah,
So I didn't. I didn't see those

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comments. Unfortunate that people were suspicious
early on, and so I found myself,

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you know, looking on it and
let me see if there are any

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updates, right, anything happened because
they showed her parents. I felt bad

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for her parents and everything. They
were concerned. But now there appears to

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be a lot of questions about okay, and I hear that, and it

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still obsessed me. Why do you
people have these quis I can just be

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happy that the woman is home.
Tell me what are some of the questions

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you're seeing here? So I'm happy
to When I saw a little headline on

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my phone, I didn't even look
through it, like, okay, great,

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I'm glad she's home. I'll figure
it out later, you know,

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when I get off work and everything. And so she just walked home and

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the family called the police and she
was taken to a local hospital for an

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evaluation. And so, but there
are still no details about any of that.

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And you know, some folks,
I don't know who they are,

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they were pointing that little details,
you know, why I was hurt,

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because everybody's a detective, right,
yeah, stood out that I can remember.

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There were a lot of questions that
I just thought were ridiculous. One

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of them was, you know,
okay, if somebody snatched or whatever,

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why was her apple watching her hair
purse? Because that would be an easy

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way to locate someone's figure out the
location. And so too some people they

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got the impression that was staged.
But there are a number of reasons why

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people wouldn't wear right. I can
tell you plenty of times my Apple Watch

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ends up in my purse. I
got my nails done, she worked out

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a spot. She could have been
doing something that involved a lot of hand

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stuff. And with me working in
a clinic, depending on what all your

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hands are going to be doing,
you're going to remove your Apple Watch when

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you're cleaning certain things. Even if
it's waterproof, you don't want chemicals on

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it. If it's dead. Sometimes
to just take it if you forgot to

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charge it the night before, is
dead, you just put it in your

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purse, nap. But why my
purse? Plenty of times. Yeah,

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but people just looking for anything,
right, just look at reason suspicious.

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I'm exactly home. I am curious
about what happened, but they haven't released

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any details. And her boyfriend did
a Instagram video or something. Did you

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see that one? No, I
didn't tell me about that one Sunday or

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so um. Yeah, that he's
happy that she's home and that she fought

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for her life. I wish I
could have pulled it up. She fought

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for her life from the a kidnapper
man. They're happy that she's home and

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she's at the hospital. So it
was brief. He thanked everybody, but

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his details were very important, and
I thought, oh great, okay,

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oh my god, somebody did try
to kidnapper, you know, But there

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were there were no other details associated
with the mom released something on Facebook.

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Her mom, you know, just
happy that she's home. But we haven't

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gotten anything else from the police officers. Well, the family did say that

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they would give more details in the
near future. You know, just as

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most people say, just respect our
privacy at this time. And it's more

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than likely said. And so here's
where I put my clinical hat back on.

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Stay out of their business, to
stay out of her face. And

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when she gets ready to tell you
all what happened, she will tell you.

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You don't know what this woman has
gone through. If she was kidnapped,

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you might not hear about it for
some weeks. She's got to get

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it, she's got to make a
statement, she'll need some therapy, she's

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got to go to a doctor.
If she wasn't kidnapped. I'm still happy

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she's home. That means there is
another issue that needs to be addressed.

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And I hope that whatever that is, it's addressed as well. So I'm

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with you, I'm with him,
glad she's home. But you you point

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to another issue that I've noticed,
you know, like over the last two

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years or so, I've been a
little bit more active on social media.

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I created that Instagram account. It
did I have TikTok? You know,

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just the moment from my daughter feels
like I didn't know even had TikTok.

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Yeah, it's it's secret. I
don't want nobody to know trying to follow

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you and I get some crazy stuff
out there, but I haven't noticed how

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cynical some people are, particularly on
Twitter, and I think some people refer

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to as black Twitter, you know, when things happen, you know,

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and sometimes we're all in the uproar
and we're all in the same mental space

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with the same thoughts. You know, just go back to George Floyd murder

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and were I believe we're all on
the same page. But now it's just

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there there are some outliers who are
not on the same page, and they

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have different views about things, and
it seems as though they're willing to attach

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black folks who a year to be
targeted for things. And you know,

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the initial thought was, oh my
gosh, she was kidding, now,

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you know, and you know,
young black woman doing her thing, working

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with the college. But there there's
an element out there who appeared to be

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black, I don't know, a
black and white, you know, who

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immediately started attacking her and the situation
with some awful accusations and that that has

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that that they've rapped up those thoughts. I think that's unfortunate. Um,

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that we now are in a society
where people are so cynical. I don't

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know society made them this way.
I have a little bit more faith in

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people, and it's difficult for me
to believe that she would stage this whole

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thing. Um. But but there
are people who thought that from the beginning.

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Now that's something that I think about
that is a little bit disappointing.

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I mean, and they were talking, I mean talking so much junk.

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You wouldn't pull over on the interstate. You probably would what you would do

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if you were kidnapped, really like
you think you could fight off as a

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well. And most of the people
I saw, unfortunately, and I hate

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this, the most were black women
attacking this black woman. I say that

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there weren't other people. I'm just
saying, maybe it's just on Facebook,

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as if you could have fought back, as if any of you who are

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mothers would not have stopped on the
interstate for a toddler, for um,

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for a five, six seven year
old. And I know that, And

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I've been told by my friends I'm
possibly hyper vigilant because of the work that

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I've done, but also, like
we that hyper vigilist lets me know that

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sometimes toddlers who wander off. We've
seen that on the internet. The toddlers

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wander off, and you know,
they're found with diapers and neighbor even trees

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and stuff and state alive. So
we know that's a possibility. We know

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that there can be six, six, seven, eight, nine year olds

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who get mad and call themselves running
away from home. It might be on

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the interstate, trying to walk somewhere. It happens. Yeah, and if

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you have any sort of maternal instinct, you call no one one, But

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you probably don't just go riding right
on home and just make dinner for your

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kids. Like, let me tell
y'all, I just saw a tyler on

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the interstate to drive by that at
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at night, and um not do
anything. Now, some of the comments

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that I did see, and people
were endorsing them that she did it for

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some attention from whom something about the
boyfriend. Oh all right, So so

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those are the theories that people are
presenting, and that she was with another

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guy. She didn't want to get
calls, so she made up this whole

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story. You know, we could
be creative, okay, please, you

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know, and write some scripts,
you know, but I saw those things,

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and I think it's unfortunate people are
so comfortable, you know, sharing

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some of those starts that that's that's
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I remember people you know, jumping
on you know, she did it for

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attention, to make to get back
to her boyfriend, or she was with

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another dude and she want to get
caught. I'm like, oh my god,

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So she called the police. I
don't want to get caught with another

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dude. So I called the police. Yeah and so and then there's a

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video camera on the highway. It's
it's it's it's a little unclear. I

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mean to me, I'm up there. I've watched all four minutes, like,

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okay, I didn see something.
I'm gonna see something. I couldn't

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see. I couldn't see anything either. And then I watched them give him

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my glasses on and I tried to
lighten up. It doesn't matter. It's

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you know, they can be.
It's an outdoor security camera. I believe

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it owned by the State Highway Patrol
and it's the car is far away,

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and you can see her stop and
the flashing hazard lights and what looks like

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an image as soon as her out
of the car the driver's side and walk

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around to the back. But after
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or anything like that. So but
I know the area like it can be

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walked through. It's got like a
little dip, okay, And of course

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I probably know it better than the
average bear. But it's got a little

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deep in some trees, and kids
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There's a Target shopping center right over
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you want to and get on through. Then get right on, drag whatever

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you want right on back to the
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Just like you said, it looked
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But because that video was not clear, you know enough to back up her

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story, it fueled some of those
other theories that are out there. I

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just wish that we could be a
little bit more compassionate, like like I

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saw something the so stupid as no
I knew something was going on when she

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turned her blinkers on before she pulled
off the interstate. That's not up.

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And when when did people get so
comfortable that they feel like everything that comes

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to your ridiculous mind has to come
out through your fingers on the internet.

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Here's a big question that you you've
headed into this direction, you know,

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and people listening to the show,
you know, chime in. You know.

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You can check us out on Facebook
and we're also on YouTube, and

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um check us out on Twitter.
Yeah, Twitter, ask us any questions

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joining and tell us what you think. Um, So, why is it

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so hard for us to believe black
women? You know, I'm not talking

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about other folks, I'm talking about
us. That's another conversation. Why is

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it challenging for us to believe black
women? I didn't doubt it. I

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still don't doubt it. Something tells
me otherwise. Are there some suspicious aspects

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to the story. Yeah, but
I'm gonna wait for the police and come

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out and release their statements, you
know, and things will eventually unfold for

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us. But what do you think
about that question? And what you see

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out there in the social media atmosphere
that people don't get enough attention At home,

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nobody listens to you. You don't
have any friends, Your spouses and

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partners would rather play video games than
listen to random stuff come out of your

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mouth. So you're like, I'm
just gonna put on social media. I

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can't get somebody right right, I'm
gonna put on in somebody, somebody anywhere

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will respond and pay me attention because
I'm so I'm thirsting for attention that I'm

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not getting from my loved ones.
I see, I think, I see,

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I see, so this, this
horrible, possible tragedy happened, and

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stelling instead of having some compassion,
let me see how I can capitalize on

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this and get some attention from other
people. I see, I didn't think

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about that that that would be great. People can turn that around because what

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I was thinking, and sometimes I
think deep about these things. Okay,

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you get deep, just a little
bit, not too deep. I'm going

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to get in trouble as a byproduct
of centuries of racism and the horrors that

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our ancestors into work. Um that
the women were tormented the most. Um.

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Even over the past fifty something years, black women have still been targeted

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by a number of people, and
sometimes there's very little justice. Uh.

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And some of those attacks that happened, their movies about it, their documentaries

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about it. Um. And I
think it's easy for people not to believe

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when a black woman says that she
was attacked or victimized. It happens in

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the hospitals, you know, the
death rates of black women given birth,

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you know, and and in other
places too. And in telling the police

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or the hospital that something's wrong,
who was it the famous woman uh P

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Diddy's former wife or or or baby
mom when she kim him something. Yes,

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yeah, she died and had some
type of ailment and went to the

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hospitals, and reports indicated that the
hospital personnel didn't believe her, so they

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didn't give her the attention that she
should have gotten and which that could have

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possibly avoided some death with her.
But but I think some of us have

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been socialized, trained by a larger
group not to give a damn about black

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women. She's come forward, she's
safe, but we want to attack her,

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some of us, not all of
us. Yeah, that's that's my

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theory. Listening to other people villainized
black women, and it happens quite a

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bit. And so that's that's the
road I was thinking about as the thoughts

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as this whole thing was unfolded,
and I thought it was unfortunate that we

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can't believe her as a group,
exclusively believe her and her ordeal until it

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becomes very evident. That's something else
is going on, but right now that

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evidence is not there. But I
saw, I saw what you saw.

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It was when I saw those of
the black women attacking her, and I

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just couldn't understand that. So that's
that's that's my thought. Yeah, I

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was appalled to the point where I
want to had an unfriend to some people.

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I mean, it was just like, even if you're right, I

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don't know, I still won't regret
unfriended you, like sometimes just shut up.

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But in line with what you're saying, we don't even have to go

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to celebrities. I tell my students
when I'm talking about health disparities that even

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when I had surgery and I said
it was difficult for me to breathe,

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they were like, well, you
just need to sit up. You haven't

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walked around enough. And I went
home and I was still in pain,

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and my sister brought me back to
She was like, no, we need

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to go back to the hospital to
find out what that my lung had collapsed

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and if someone had just done a
scan, done anything, but tell me

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that I need to sit up.
At what I was like, no,

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it hurts every time I breathe.
I even said, call my doctor.

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And they said, well, I'm
putting it in. Your father will call

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the doctor. They did not call
my doctor. They were like, this

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woman's just she's being just complained that
she's not that bad. And then we

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have our young women who are assaulted. Teenagers, small children who are molested.

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There say, well, her fast
tail, that fast tailed girl,

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right, oh, R Kelly,
you know that that was the whole story.

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But these young girls, you know, the mamas were not there,

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you know, and so R Kelly
took advantage of them. But then what

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happened. People didn't believe that ye
call them fast. I'm like, did

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you ever imagine who made them fast? Who made them precocious? When they

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were ten, nine, eleven,
twelve years old? And here is R.

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Kelly going to the middle school playground. Well, and all of my

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friends that I know from the Chicago
areas say that everybody knew Arkelly was always

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walk around the mall trying to get
at teenage girls. Nobody protected the teenage

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girls by getting Arkell out the street. They just said, these girls need

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to stop being fast. What else
do they need to do? Stop walking

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around the mall, not be flattered
by compliments. It's I mean are their

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prefrontal cortex. It is supposed to
all of a sudden, girls super fast,

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and then they're able to make better
decisions like come on. Yeah,

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So now they're they're doing the same
with Carly Russell, you know, painting

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a picture of her as being this
fast, scorn woman who made up this

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story. It's the same thing,
you know, and not protecting her with

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their thoughts and prayers. You know, it's just she's bad, you know,

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she she's that bad black woman.
You know. I just wish that

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we can get out of that mindset
and stop drinking a kool aid, you

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know. And remember, I'm old
enough to remember. I need to,

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you know, the Clarence Thomas here, Yes, I remember that. And

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people did not believe her all.
They refuse and there was another woman who

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can back up her story. They
never called her up to testify. And

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here we are, years of later, learning this shit about Clarence Thomas.

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You know, Okay, he's still
the trash. And I said, it's

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recorded the trash. I thought I'm
going to endorse that. But but but

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it's problematic when your own community cannot
believe you or refuse to believe you when

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you tell a story, and that's
the case with Anita hel Um, your

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situation, P Diddy's former girlfriend.
You know that these other women who have

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these health issues, that's the story. You know, that's the issue.

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And how are we going to expect
other people to believe us and protect black

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women if we don't do it ourselves. So I did see some want to

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reached way back and pulled this story
about a young fifteen year old black woman

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and I want to say, was
the nineties or the eighties. I have

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to look up her name, and
Al Sharpton was her attorney or spokesperson at

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the time. I said that,
see, and I've never heard of this

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one. I know they made a
chronicle in twenty thirteen, and um,

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she lied. I'm trying to look
it up now, but the pair she

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said that she was raped by the
KKK. She came back and said feces

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in her hair and some other stuff
written across her stomach, and Al Sharpton

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it was back when he was a
big Al that's her name. Later on

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they well, they determined that she
lied, especially well, especially about the

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two specific people that she named.
And somebody put on Facebook as this the

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new to Wanda Bradley, who's like, really, look okay, it made

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me look her up, but also
it was like, really though, that's

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far I remember Toruanda Brawley. We
didn't have the internet at that time.

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I don't remember it, but but
it was all over news and black Pools

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were talking about it, and there
were some suspicious aspects to it. Also

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because she named the white men who
raped her. One of them she named

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the New York City mayor um and
so that that just came off odd,

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you know to a lot of people. And uh, yes, yes,

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that that that was a disappointing chapter. Yeah, and the history of black

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women being brutalized and like, yeah, millions and millions of things that happened.

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They're like, but you got this
one, YEA get that one of

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the discount or nullifies the other black
women who are attacked and brutalized and raped

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by some black men. So yeah, I hadn't seen that one. That's

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disappointing. Yeah, that people are
going there, especially those of us who

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can remember that time. And Al
Shampton I believe that's when he made a

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name for himself outside of New York, outside of New York, And so

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yeah, that's that's unfortunate that we're
gonna hang on that, you know well,

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And I remember when I've read the
story. Someone asked him about it

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years later and he said basically the
same thing I said. Even if that

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didn't happen, something happened, yea, it said, like on something that

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was going on with her. So
I don't regret going. And no one's

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questioning her mental health and whether or
not she was delusional or possibly on drugs

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or something like that, all those
things of possibilities, you know, And

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I ain't remember believing her when I
heard the stories on news, it was

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all over news. And so just
like I remember Carly Russell, I believe

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Cary Russell. So I'm on your
side. Black women, brothers, I'm

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on your side. I know we're
not all the same, but I do

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know that we are targeted, we
are brutalized, we are discriminated against.

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And when someone comes forward and say
that something happened to them, I'm gonna

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believe you, you know, until
something comes forward to suggest otherwise. I

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just want to put that out there, and I wish thank you, Harrison.

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And that's why we'll always be friends, don't you. You will click

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off somebody in all year. Any
final thoughts on Carly Russell. Protect black

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women, like Magan the Stallion said, protect black women, and like doctor

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Asian Dickinson said, just shut up. Sometimes it's okay to just shut up.

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Sometimes we don't need to hear everything
that comes through you all's minds on

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Twitter, Facebook, because if it's
not nice, just or until you hear

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differently, just talk to and you, like I said, you might have

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those family members who don't want to
hear you. Talk to a journal,

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talk talk to Jesus, all right. I like that. Jesus, your

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therapist, and a journal. Those
are the three people. Three things have

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a great outlet and not Facebook,
Twitter and Instagram. I agree. And

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so to echo all of that,
you know, let's let's try to support

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each other. Let's be a little
bit more compassionate. Somebody comes forward with

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a sad story. Uh, that's
I don't know. My My initial reaction

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is, oh my god, I
hate that it happened. You know,

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let's let's monitor ourselves. If your
initial reaction is she's lying, you know,

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just like it didn't need a heel, you know. So this is

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not to want a brawley, you
know, but if something comes forward,

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you know, and they prove a
wrong. You guys have free reign,

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do what you want. But until
then, I still don't want to do

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what they want. I still want
to just show them off shut. But

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why would you be the munster?
You know, some woman's coming forward and

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saying something happened to her. Why
would you be the munster and attacker during

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that time. So that's all I
got to say about that, because I

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you know, I can get them
my little soap box. Yeah, well,

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me too, But instead I just
look forward to her family said that

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they would give more information later,
and I look forward to the information because

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I was praying for it, and
I just want to wrap my arms around

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her and her family and tell her
that whatever happened, I love you without

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knowing you, and I too,
I also had her my thoughts. I'm

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also gonna gonna pray for all the
other black folks, yes, and pray

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for your healing that would allow you
to support other black folks who come forward

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with some harsh accusations. So that's
all I'm gonna say about that, because

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some emails I wanta send the emails
well address remind everybody I'm black too.

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I want to remind you you know, there the shade on the screen and

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be a little light. But I
hope you guys enjoyed today show. You

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have been listening to a watching two
therapists on that microphone. I am doctor

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Harrison Diggers and I'm doctor Asia Dickerson. See you guys next week, take

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