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Welcome to softcore History. What is
up? Welcome back to softcore History.

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I am your host for the week, Rob Fox. I am joined as

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always by Jake Goldman, who was
waving at the door and Dan thought someone

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was in the door. I didn't
catch saw him look, saw him?

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Look? Yeah, I was waving
at the camera. Yeah to the people

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watching, because they do. Dan
jesters here as well. I am I

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was actually seen if we were recording. Okay, if there's anybody at the

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door, you can see there,
right, Why do you check that you

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check the door? He was looking
at the door. I don't care.

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Anyone says door looker for your narrative. Sure, yeah, all right,

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why not? Yeah, sell them
in the door looker, door looker.

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Yeah, well it's window peeper.
Door loooker is just through a keyhole.

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It's just yeah, watching your daughter
undress. It would be daughter if you

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tell the story. Yuh yeah,
I don't know. Why not watching your

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nine year old boy undressed that Atlandic
Christmas story. Um, welcome back.

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Thank you for being here. If
you haven't already, please like and subscribe

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to us on Apple Podcasts. Yes, please, and thank you. Leave

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a review that helps us climb up
the charts. We rank every week,

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but always good to be higher.
In fact, we just had a listener

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who said he was drawn to us. Well, he searched us, but

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then our name alone is what made
him like give us a click. Uh

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So the more people that see our
name, the higher we are on the

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list, the more listeners we get. What was the bit he was talking

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about, I don't remember. Yeah, him, but I don't remember,

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but I can't remember the bid he
was. It was a John Paul Jones

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episode. There was the eppisode.
So the bit I would have to go

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back and listen. You said you
were going to go back and listen.

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I didn't do it, but clearly
did not. Yeah, so I'm glad

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it was a good bit. A
little raid or something. I don't know

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about a little raid. It was
like I guess my think. My theory

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is that maybe we were talking about
the dool little raid and I mentioned that

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we bombed like three factories that killed
like nobody because it was just a literally

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it was a propaganda attack, which
is fine and good. It was to

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show Japan that we could get them
whenever we wanted to, even if we

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didn't get them very hard and to
show the American like to give the American

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people a dub, but it really
wasn't like militarily, it didn't do anything.

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Also, last week I promised a
piece of merch to the best one.

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I was going to get to that. I was gonna get to that.

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Well I haven't pulled up right now, Okay, cool. I just

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want to say, though, what
then? What happened is the Japanese were

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so pissed about the Doo Little raid
that they went and killed two hundred thousand

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Chinese people. So I think it
was like when we were like Doolittle,

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like did a little too much or
so that's what my mind went to.

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I don't fuck know because I don't
remember, and I'm probably remember. Yeah

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that's my thought, but who knows. I think you're right anyway. Yeah,

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we had a little competition who could
leave the best review with regard to

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leaving reviews, and we have a
winner. You kid, you seem like

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you're on speed right now. No, it was me slapping my knees.

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Yeah, I wasn't doing any knee
slapping. I'm just moving like the a

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D D boy that I always am. Okay, okay, but yeah,

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I think we both agreed. Jake
didn't get any input on the best review.

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It's just being Rob Rob love not
being included. M well, you

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know this is kind of this review
will kind of tell you why it's the

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jew one right, it was,
so this review is from the Jew.

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Part was not the funniest part to
me, No, but fun one one

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eight one one eight. So it's
a bot okay, probably, Um,

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it's it's very very curated box about
that. To listen to softcore History for

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one hundred thousand hours and just generated
a review. Yeah, reached out to

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me in the DMS, either a
Softcore History or Dan Regester on Instagram.

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It's titled Rob Fox's baby versus Baby
Fox. Now would I presume that to

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me? And I like that as
well. I presume that to mean that

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he wants my baby to fight a
fox kit, which is what you call

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a baby fox? That actually,
yeah, like Tales from Sonic, I

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guess Tales is a you know,
a prepubescent but somewhat mature fox. I

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think we're talking about could your baby
take Tales? No, of course,

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not Tales to speed alone. Yeah, run circles to be like that scene

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in the first episode in The Boys
where a train just runs through his girlfriend.

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Spoiler ruler. Yeah, teeth flying
everywhere. Yeah, he swallowed tooth

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and shifted out later. I love
that show. So oh man, I

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just watched the most recent episode,
every episode I've seen the first three.

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Yeah. The review says a nerd
and I want to be playboy pretend to

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be friends with the jew and created
this show as an excuse to tell mildly

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funny anti Semitic jokes and get away
with it, which isn't far off.

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Yeah, honestly, the funniest part
about that is you guys don't tell any

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of the anti Semitic jokes, not
a lot of them. The bulk of

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them, as are the bulk of
most anti Semitic jokes come from Jewish people.

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Yeah, self loathing. Yes,
yes, Also I think the people

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got upset the most at Jack for
anti Semitism, not us. What do

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he do? I don't even remember, who knows who Coo could remember?

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Yeah? But either way, up, I'll get you whatever piece of merch

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you want. I think we'll start
doing this maybe. Yeah, actually,

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we'll start doing this every week.
I'll give you a piece of merch uh

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for the best review left. Yeah, we'll pick one every week and maybe

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do that d end of the show
now, but just the end, make

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make up state of the end.
Yes, okay, if they don't know,

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you did it enough. And we
also, by the way, have

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a Patreon. We dou one of
our best episodes ever. I think he's

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gonna air this Wednesday Game Show episode
three. Yes, I think it went

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pretty well. It's a real battle
Royale. It is. It was.

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It was down to the wire.
I won't spoil who won like last time.

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Um, maybe I'm mad, maybe
I'm happy. We don't know.

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You guys are always mad, always
mad for the angriest stuff the two teams.

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Yeah, because Joel and I don't
really care. We did actually talk

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about this after you guys think it
personal. I'm there for Rob yelling.

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I don't yell as much. Yeah, I'm I'm of the angriest of the

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two of us. It's him he
gets all mad. That's because Daniell just

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start giving clues when they clearly don't
know. But okay, but Joe's not

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getting the clues. Yeah yeah,
Coop Mike, Coop Mike. He was

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like, okay, think about think
about schools, think about big football schools,

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Midwest in what town there is,
think think of the Catholic Rudy.

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They're still not going to get in
the chapel. That all I realized was

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we have to get rid of sports
from It's the Game Show because both teams

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are just terrible at it. You'd
think one of the teams, I'm not

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going to say which one, but
one of the teams would be better at

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sports. I would think you guys
would too better. Well, as I

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said about as I said on that
show, and you can just hear the

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description of what we look like we
should know sports. Yeah, I might

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cut a little trailer for that,
but yeah, go ahead subscribe to the

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patreon soft dot com slash softcore history. We got like three months of content

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on their content there and it's all
evergreen like everything we knew. We try

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to keep relatively. I don't talk
about current events if we can avoid it.

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Yeah. Yeah, we talk about
current events from the past, hurts

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history. That's what we talk about. Great, uh, And we have

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a good topic today. I told
you when you walk in and thought I

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thought this was a banger, I
thought this was a great topic. I'll

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be real with you. I don't
think the start of the shows is that

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great? Okay, Dan hates everything
we miss I'll have to pick it up.

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You guys have been almost Did I
not get in on the meth?

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What the fuck are you talking?
I've slapped my knee three times. Why

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are you upset that we have enthusiasts? Wait? No, I answered my

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own question. Yeah, Dan hates
enthusiasm itself. He hates that, but

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he also hates lack of energy.
He wants a perfect little medium that he

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can be happy with, but that
that doesn't exist. It's like the middle

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class of America. No, No, he wants, he wants. He's

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a sliver. There is a sliver
he's happy with. But the problem is

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he also hates being happy. So
if we make him happy, then he

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will then be upset. But then
he's happy because he's upset. Right,

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This is what we deal with,
is you, did you just crash your

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car trying to wrap your mind around
that logic and you thought you'd be better

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off wrapping your car around a tree? Because that that's what we deal with

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on a weekly base, and we
love each other, we do. That's

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actually what happened to Ryan done Yeah, in the car with him too?

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Heard of a math problem? Went
through his brain. No, he just

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heard heard one of our Inside TFM
podcast. Okay, yeah, well he

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died while I still lived in Saint
Louis, like one of ten but yeah,

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or twenty eleven like that. But
whatever. Anyway, we've got a

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great episode today. I'm excited for
it. Um, it's not ancient tree

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or anything like that, relatively.
It takes place in the summer of eighteen

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eighty nine in Chicago, Illinois.
Gang violence. Huh, well what about

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Chicago? Chicago? Yeah, home
of the Harlem Globe Trotter like the other

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days, Right, I was I
I dropped my baby on hard concrete and

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my wife was screaming at me about
it, and I was like, what

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about Chicago. Do you know how
many babies die in Chicago? Yeah?

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And she didn't have an answer,
and I was like, yeah, I

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thought so. I thought so.
So eighteen eighty nine, Chicago, A

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family moved in to a beautiful home
in the Lincoln Park area of Chicago,

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Illinois. Do you guys know it? I'm familiar with their music. Yeah,

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Hybrid Theory was a pretty good album. Different Lincoln Chester, right,

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Yeah, Chester died, yes Chester? Yes? Then the other one Miner

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sucked, so the other one one
on to make a rap group that JJ

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Watt exclusively works out too. He
listens to the Fort Minor when he works

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out. Of course, JJ Watt
is actually the worst America as soon as

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he leaves the white lines of the
football field, he's one of the worst

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people on Earth. Well, listen, it's ten percent love and he gave

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money on concentrated power of will.
You definitely need to get those numbers right.

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I can't do this, can't do
it now, I'm displeased. Anyway.

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Lincoln Park's in nice area of Chicago. You say to him, brings

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some one step closer to the edge, and he's about the break. Yeah,

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okay, it's just a few it's
just a few blocks from the lake.

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Blah blah blah, nice area.
And this was no doubt an exciting,

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happy experience for doctor W. C
Row and his family. You only

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moved into a beautiful two story home
in a gorgeous part of town during Chicago

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summer, which is I assume what
heaven feels like. Have you ever been

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in Chicago in the summer? Is
it worth? It's like, literally the

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best place to be in Joel in
the United States. Of America just for

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weather alone. I want to say, Michigan. It's the same thing.

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Yeah, it's like the exact I
mean yeah, it's literally the exact same

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thing. Doesn't Lake Michigan, No, it's Lake Superior. Lake Michigan is

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what Chicago's on. Oh it is? Yeah, yes, so Andy.

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I don't know if it makes the
winner worth it, But for like two

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and a half months out of the
year, Chicago's weather isn't ye put on

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the rest of the year nine and
a half months, who needs that?

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You don't want it? Like,
I have a ton of friends who live

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in Chicago just by virtue of being
from the Midwest, And dude, my

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Facebook feed from I don't know,
mid October to mid April of my Chicago

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friends, it is just like,
goddamn it, it's snowing again. Like

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my dog died of frostbite while I
was walking. It didn't leave it outside,

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it's pause just fell off midwalk like
a fucking hiker on Everest. It's

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just a a city's a nightmare for
most of the year. Most of the

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year too, there are dead dog
carcasses just kind of like inside this they're

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kind of frozen to the side.
Yah, frozen in there again like Mount

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Everest. They can't grab him,
like, you don't have enough time to

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bring the bodies down, so they're
just there now. Oklahoma, on the

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other hand, whose state bird is
the dead dog? That's just a koutrama,

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that's just just set dressing. Um, that's a mile marker. Yes,

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yes, yeah, you two aren't
the first people to talk about that

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either, like the fact that there's
a million dead dogs just on the side

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of the road in Oklahoma. Well, I mean we've repeated this bit for

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quite a bit. Yeah, are
the only people I've heard said then?

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Yeah, probably probably are. You're
probably just rehashing it. But yeah.

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So the family of five plus the
housekeeper, they were excited to move in.

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Uh really just you know, a
fun move to a nicer part of

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town, middle of the city.
Blah blah blah. This excitement, however,

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quickly gave way to horror. On
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the Roe family Row, his wife, his housekeeper, and their five

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children were awakened by terrible noises.
Bizarre noises, noises that had no explanation.

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What they heard that night and every
other night for the entire time they

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lived there. Uh, but they
lived in their dream home. Was a

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ghost party, ghost party, a
ghost party ghosts now actually a party actual

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ghost or like a Timothy Dexter's wife
ghost. No actual ghosts. That's an

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old seawunch. Yeah, which,
by the way, um, I may

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need to start kind of taking more
risks with my investments, like Timothy Dexter

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the way Kryptos going right now?
Yeah, buy cats. I'm gonna start

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buying cats and shipping them to the
heard. That is that on coin base,

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Like, no, just been ten
thousand cats on a boat stocking up

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on coal. It is not fiat
currency at all at all. It's feline

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currency. Let's be a capreator why
not cats? You don't breathe them,

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You just capture them and they breathe
them, and then then breed them and

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you throw them on a ship.
That's just kind of the strategy that is

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tried and true to acquire something in
mass and somewhere else. Hope they pay.

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Then you're an import export at that
point. Um. So, Yeah,

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this home was haunted not by evil
spirits or spirits that quietly floated the

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halls and stared at you and then
disappeared, but by just ghosts. Having

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a party. No, that would
be a great movie. What they heard

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was described as a horde of heavy
footed men running up and down their stairs

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and through the halls, hooting and
hollering, moving parlor chairs, shaking doors,

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striking matches as if to light a
cigar or pipe or something, and

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even even firing off celebratory gunshots like
fucking Yosemite. Sam. Okay, it

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just sounds like a frat ghost it. The more you talk, the more

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like you're just living in a frat
house. Yeah, that's I mean,

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nothing says frat ghosts more like smoking
inside, throwing furniture, and firing off

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a random gun every now and the
right. I've always thought about having like

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a modern ghost that I would want
to be roommates with, Like he choked

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on a Toastito's pizza roll while he's
playing Xbox three. Well, isn't this

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something we did? We'll get into
discuss this. I think we'll get into

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why that can't happen. According to
people in this very story, is there

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a certain date that ghosts no longer
exist? Kind of there's cut off,

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there's there's a deadline. We'll get
to it. Yeah, we'll get to

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it. We'll get to it.
So I can't. I just can't have

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a ghost at died in like two
thousand and nine. No, all right,

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and we'll get to that. We'll
find it based on the logic of

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some of the people in this story. Cannot wait for ghost logic. Yeah,

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and these people themselves, are they
past the deadline? If you're get

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to that, we'll get to that
as well. Okay, we'll get to

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you said eighteen eighty nine. Yes, okay, yes, but you see,

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for these people, eighteen eighty nine
is the present now, I see

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that, right, So it'd be
like a ghost in twenty twenty two to

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them, future ghosts to them.
No, I mean whatever. So that

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first night that they lived in the
house, doctor Rowe and his housekeeper went

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out into went out into the house
to find out to find these intruders.

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Like they heard the noises, they
woke up. They searched the entire home.

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They heard people running up and down
the stairs, they heard shouting and

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all this other shit. Search the
entire home with their little gas lamps.

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No one was there, nothing was
moved. But these noises were as real

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as they were. Okay, okay, So right now I'm gonna tell you

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my wife would hate if we had
party ghosts. Do you know why?

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Why? Because I tried a party
with the party ghosts? Of course you

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would, yeah, And then wouldn't
That's me just every night until four am,

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like sorry, baby, yeah,
Chamberlain's lighting a cigar again, I

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gotta go. They're doing a line
of like ghost blow to ghost blow.

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It's gotta be the best blow.
Or you would also try to make them

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watch like found footage movies. Yeah, what's Jake's party too? It is

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like, come on, they're in
my outs. Watch they gotta watch the

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visit with me. Yeah, and
they're like ah, yeah, we've really

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gotta go, and you're like,
noah, man, just hang around.

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He's like smoked it. He's like
taking a couple giant rips off the ghost

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bong and he's just like, seriously, dude, this movie is like fucking

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You would not expect it to be
as good as it. Do you guys

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want to watch Beyond Majestic, you
would just be Franco and Pineapple Express,

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where you're like, I really hate
Lingers, and then you would just keep

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trying to like the Ghost. You'd
be like, nah, dude, it's

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cool. You just stay But then
like somebody who's a real life friend you

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would try to kick out of your
heart. I think I would exercise frat

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ghosts the best. What do you
mean, because they would be kind of

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fed up with my movie recos.
Maybe all right, bro, we gotta

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dude, but we'll fucking see you
come back tomorrow. Yeah maybe, man,

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I don't know, I got class. Yeah yeah, zee bad balls

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for those at home. Is a
UF bar, by the way, I

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think everyone listens probably knows that now. I don't know we mentioned balls.

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We've mentioned balls before. Yeah,
but like it's a UF closet that serves

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alcohol. It is a concrete block. Never rubbed my fucking junk against so

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many guys as I had apol.
Why do you think it's called that is?

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Actually it's very funny. It was
supposed to be a pool themed bar,

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not a pool bar, a barber
you play pool, just a pool

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themed bar, and they just decided
to never decorate it. Well, they

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can't fit pool tables in there.
No, it's the size of this table.

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It would be uncomfortable for them to
put many like pool table things on

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the regular tables. Oh yeah,
I mean people were sitting on the tables

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they were sitting on top of the
benches and then on the benches. You

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just don't sit in the bench,
dude, that I've never been in a

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more crowded bar. It's great.
The only like, there were only like

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a hundred people there. You've never
been to a Tallahassee bar. Oh,

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they're just trailers the in between.
If you think balls are small, check

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out the in between. Good lord, Yeah, I can't. I can't

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fucking deal with that. At some
point, I was just like, I'm

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not. I guess I'm not drinking
for a while because there was just no

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fucking way, oh to get to
the bar. Yeah, yeah, r

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ip rock by the way, the
dun guy rocket Balls pours them heavy.

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Yeah, he pours that fifty percent
grain alcohol whiskey. Lord. Real,

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Well he's dead now he's be rocked. He's well, we are talking about

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dead people. He would be a
great ghost. Yeah, and maybe he

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will be one day when he's allowed
to whoa, Oh, there's a fold.

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Yeah. Doctor Rowe did not want
to tell anyone about what was happening.

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This happened night after night. He
did not want to mention it to

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anyone because he's afraid that everyone in
the city would think he was fucking insane,

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maybe not wrongly. He was determined, however, to get to the

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bottom of whatever the hell was happening
in his house. Every single night,

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these raging parties would go on,
and every single night they go out into

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the halls looking trying to see anything. Everything was totally undisturbed. Doors were

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locked, no chairs were moved,
everything was fine. Nothing was broken,

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even when they would hear things breaking. All of it. So one night

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doctor Rowe and his wife and the
housekeeper get the why his idea, the

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clever idea to hide out in like
closets and rooms or whatever throughout the house

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and then when they heard the party
start up, they're gonna pop out,

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cool and catch these fuckers like a
kid trying to catch Santa Claus. Yes,

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yeah, literally, So like they
were gonna wait, they were gonna

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be woken up, they were gonna
stay awake, and as soon as they

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heard all the ship going on,
they were gonna pop out. And I

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assume that's as far into the planning
as they got. I hope the ghosts

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just kind of locked him in the
closets so they could party longer. Yeah,

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they just put a broomstick over the
door handles or whatever. That'd be

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good. Do you think they put
a keg in that closet? All the

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narts are by the keg. The
cops, cop cops. I just like

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frat ghosts. They pushed the ghost
kid. There is actually a sketch on

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Funny or Die. I think that's
called frat ghost It wasn't that good,

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though, not as good as we
could have made up. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, because that was something I
wanted to do for TFM back of

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the day and it had already been
taken. But I don't think my script

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is very good either, so it's
fine. I think Kenya he should bring

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that kick out of that closet,
including himself. What Wow, it was

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a weird turn, man, but
I get it. Yeah, I'm saying,

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Kenny Chesni's gay. Live your truth. Kenny. Isn't he married to

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Nicole Kidman? Is he really?
Yeah? Divorce maybe? No? No,

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they're married. Good for you,
Kenny, No, yeah, he

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is the least gay, fucking dude. I'm sorry. The prerequisite for not

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being gay is being married to Nicole
Kid No, no one, Tom Cruise,

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I'm sorry, fair enough. Actually, I'm sorry he was married to

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Rene's Eliger. That's it, and
that was it. Who's married? But

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there's a country singer married to Nicole
Kidman. Is Tim Merman or whicheveryone's uh

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yeah it is? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the other

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Keith married. Yeah yeah, he's
crushing it. Um anyway, Yeah,

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so they're in the house. They're
hiding their up. It's the middle of

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the night because ship doesn't happen to
like midnight and shit um and they're ready.

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Okay, they're fucking ready. So
in the closets or whatever throughout the

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house they're waiting with their ass lamps. They're ready to pop out. That

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night, the noise started up a
little bit differently. Were they row hoggin

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and go into poundtown kind of what? Really? Okay, Well, there

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was a pounding Oh no, uh
as the rose and they're wildly underpaid housekeeper.

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At this point, hid they began
to hear two men struggling. They're

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wrestling. The struggles got louder until
and louder until they realized that what they

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were listening to was a knockdown,
drag out fistfight and absolutely brutal beating.

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According to their account of the night, two men just fucking wailing on each

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other, still sounds looking around,
and then finally a gunshot rang out,

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and then they heard of sack of
potatoes of a body tumbling down the stairs

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dead. Whoa. So, for
some reason, big wild West Town kind

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of I mean, this was a
little bit the West. I mean it

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was kind of one of the gateways
to the West or whatever. It's where

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all the trains went through. So
if you're going out to the West,

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your train's probably going through Chicago is
the gateway. Yeah, so at this

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point the Rows decided it was still
a good idea to pop out and see

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what was going on. After listening
to just like god knows how many minutes

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of brutal physical violence. Yeah,
I wonder where like the logic is there.

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It's like, well, it's there
had to have been at least one

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conversation where they're like, it's a
ghost gun, right, like it can't

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possibly like get they don't even know
necessarily that Okay, so that's actually terrifying,

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right For all they know, two
real men are just like viciously beating

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each other, by the way,
while their children are asleep up upstairs,

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and the kids are did they tell
they must have told kids not to leave

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the room. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean and the kids

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all heard everything too, like every
night, so like they're all everyone's aware

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of everyone's are So this is the
night that happens then, instead of just

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hearing a normal party where they could
pop out and be like, get the

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out of here, it's fucking two
guys just beating the fuck out of each

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other. And then one one is
armed. One finally, yeah, is

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able to draw his pistol and murders
the other one in cold blood, and

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they hear that body tumbled down the
stairs, and then the rose pop out

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ready to catch whomever was in the
act of murdering another person. After surviving

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a brutal this fight, well they
find Yeah, they found fucking nothing.

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No one was there, nothing was
disturbed. They found a hoodie in a

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pack of Skittles. What the fuck? Come on, Dan Can making a

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choke because he lived in Orlando.
I guess that's just what everyone there has,

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is a hoodie in a pack of
Skittles. Um classic. I don't

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know why they popped out at all
at that point. Yeah, babe,

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on that night, No, that's
not the night you that's not the night

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you confront the ghosts. What if
it's a different experience depending on where you're

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listening, though, like every time
you're in the closet, it's a that

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does seem a bit, you know, like this was catered to them,

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like they knew. It's like,
oh, they're changing it up. We're

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changing right, right right? Not
a normal party tonight. Yeah. So

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finally news of the homes nightly ghost
parties UH made its way around the neighborhood

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of Lincoln Park and then the city. It was huge news. On July

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eighteenth, eighteen eighty nine, the
Chicago Tribune wrote, they cannot be seen.

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They do not softly and silently glide
all in white. On the contrary,

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they yell and fight and fire pistols
and fall downstairs and do all sorts

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of mysterious, not to say,
diabolical things. The truth of the matter

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is is that the real household is
the abiding place of a gang of ghosts.

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Chicago has had a gang problem forever, fair enough, and a gun

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problem. Yeah clear, I mean
gun violence never left. Really, it's

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just waiting for that, waiting for
that joke to make itself. M sorry,

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I'm good week. What about Chicago? Yeah, I mean here we

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are, Yeah, talking about Chicago
and guns and violence. Um. The

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Tribune, by the way, I
believed the story. Now, I'm sure

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part of that was just a fucking
sell papers rag. Yeah right, but

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they said they were like, well, they defended Roe's credibility because he was

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both a doctor and a church deacon
and, according to them, presumably a

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man of a double liar. Yeah, that was what's saying. Back then,

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all you need to do is say
you were those things? Were those

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things? Also, what is a
doctor? I can saw limbs, Yeah,

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I can let blood. You just
go from town to town and you

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just it's like, hey that people. What it's like the music man,

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you know, the monterail right,
yes, Montereil. Yeah, you're just

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like snakes, a bunch of tonics. Yeah, these in one, two,

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three, and then you just put
some leeches on them. Yeah,

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and then leave town. She's dead
and you're rich arch. Yeah. They

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just have to be better for like
four hours so you can get out dodge.

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Yes, you give them, you
give them a cocaine and that they're

407
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:33,160
like all vibrant and awake. I
love the cocaine was a sinus infection treatment

408
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:37,119
for a long time. Clears you
out. Oh yeah, it fucking works.

409
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,319
Yeah, it's just like it also
can make the infection much worse,

410
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,079
right, so you just have a
that's the thing. You've cured it for

411
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,599
long enough for you to be in
town. Yeah, and then you get

412
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,279
the fuck out of there. They're
way worse the next day, like they've

413
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,559
done enough cocaine. Then they might
just want to kill themselves. Yes,

414
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:56,279
but the doctor's out of town.
It's like, oh the connection, Um

415
00:28:56,279 --> 00:29:00,319
he's not around. He would still
be like, right, okay, she's

416
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,799
sick because the doctors left, right
right? What changed? Doctor here?

417
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:10,759
She feel good? Doctor gone,
she feel bad. That's how reciput and

418
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:14,559
actually became important in Russia. It
is. He was like drugging the fucking

419
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:17,680
Tsars kid, right, He was
like, I learned this from the King's

420
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,039
man. He was like, oh, don't give him drugs, let him

421
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:25,599
pray. But it turned out the
kid, uh was what do you call

422
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,920
it, he's a hemophiliac. Yeah, they were given the kid aspiring.

423
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:30,119
Yeah, so he happened to fall
upon like, hey, you're giving a

424
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,160
blood thinner to a person with hemophilia. Don't do that. But you didn't

425
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,720
know that, so they all thought
he was a fucking miracle work, right,

426
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,880
he's a wizard. Yeah he was. I mean, who's to say

427
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,680
with that kind of hog, that
fucking tusk of a dick. God,

428
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,519
what if it was just like a
rhinocerous horn and they were like, yeah,

429
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:53,880
no, this is is penis.
It's sharp. Yeah, that's people

430
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,079
with that. Um. Yeah.
So the Tribune believed the story definitely not

431
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,279
just to sell paid right, why
would they do? The media would never

432
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,400
back then. There used to be
a time in this country where news was

433
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:14,960
good, of course. Um so
yeah. So Roe's neighbors, by the

434
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000
way, also corroborated this story.
It wasn't just the family. So Roe

435
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:22,119
he didn't want anyone to find out
about this. I think he was fucking

436
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,720
nuts. He was a doctor,
right, that's so, a cocaine dealer,

437
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:32,279
I guess y um, and a
deacon, man of faith, man

438
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:34,119
of science. He could do it
all. Didn't want any demons in his

439
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,079
house. That's a bad look for
he didn't want the congregation, yeah,

440
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:41,839
to be like that Manton's got demons. Actually, yeah, that would be

441
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,160
a bad look for him because it's
like, why can't you get rid of

442
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,240
them? Yeah? Yeah, thought
you were a miracle worker Helen, Like,

443
00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:52,839
you're not calling him for an exorcism. It's like you can't even exercise

444
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,119
his own fucking house he guys a
hack. Yeah, take care of your

445
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:57,359
own fucking house pal before you before
you start preaching to me. Yeah,

446
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,240
I don't care if my fucking daughters
spewing bile and walking around on all fours.

447
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:03,960
Yeah. Heard, you got your
own ghosts problems. Why don't you

448
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,720
just ship the fuck up and deal
with that doc. We're gonna scrap her

449
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,240
down and not feed her. Yeah, let you start praying for yourself to

450
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:12,559
piece of shit. Uh. But
Rose so Roade didn't want to. I

451
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,519
want to know. He was like, God, damn, anyone was gonna

452
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,319
think I've been saying. They're gona
think I'm a shitty deacon whatever. His

453
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:22,279
wife, on the other hand,
was like, oh my god, you

454
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:25,200
guys got to spend the fucking night. And hear this ship it is wild

455
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,759
women. Yeah. So she would
go to the name she said, all

456
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,720
this suddnighbors and she's like they were
like no, and she was like,

457
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,920
dude, spend the night. Spend
the fucking night, And she had them

458
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,880
spend the night, like multiple of
them on different nights and she had them

459
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,200
spend the night. Did they go
in the closet? And they were all

460
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:45,160
like, Oh my god, what
the fuck is happening in your house?

461
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,119
They were all they all of them
were like, no, they're not lying.

462
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,680
I heard it. I heard the
party, but I don't know what

463
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,960
it was. We popped out,
We waited, we popped out. No

464
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,680
one was fucking there were they with
them? Who were the neighbors in the

465
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,240
closet by themselves? That I don't
know, but I assume they were together.

466
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:12,160
Okay, when was the record player
created? I think you know the

467
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,559
difference between what's being played on It
was a RAF. Know it existed.

468
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,680
If you don't, I don't know, dude. They jumped out of the

469
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:27,680
way of a train coming towards the
screen created Stay Woke eighteen seventy seven.

470
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680
Oh so it's brand new. No
it's not. It's twelve years old.

471
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,119
And this is a major then it's
a major city. Absolutely not. Okay,

472
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,880
there's no such thing as a major
city back then except New York and

473
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,440
San Francisco. Over a million of
people live in Chicago in eighteen eighty nine.

474
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,839
That is a major city. I
get those numbers up, those are

475
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,319
rookie numbers. Oh my god,
I fucking can't um. Yeah. So

476
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,960
anyway, the photograph had been around
for a while. Uh whatever, So

477
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:58,240
says you, all right, fine, I like what Dan's putting down here.

478
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:05,519
I'm just I'm questions. I get
it. That's fair. I like

479
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:07,480
that's the only position to ever be
in because you don't actually have to answer

480
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:10,680
your questions. No, you just
ask them and people are like, oh,

481
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:15,279
the wise man asked another question,
an unanswerable question. Yeah, it's

482
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:19,079
my favorite. One of my favorite
bits from like Early Family Guy is like,

483
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:22,880
oh, like they're looking back on
their family history and one of Peter's

484
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,119
answers is like a philosopher in Ireland
and wife is like starving, the kids

485
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,400
are starving, and she's like please, you have to get a job,

486
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:38,960
and he's just like why, I'm
a great mind. Right. Yeah.

487
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,359
That's the thing that, like you
figure out reading a lot of philosophy books

488
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:45,359
pretty early on. It's like these
duds just like sitting around jerking their brains

489
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:47,720
off. Yeah yeah, it's kind
of it. Yeah, they don't have

490
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:52,359
job, they're unemployed. No,
was it like they're unemployed until they can

491
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,680
convince some idiot to pay them.
It's also like everything that was written back

492
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,759
then is common sense that they just
put on paper. Like the Art of

493
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:01,880
War, it's modern. It's modern
art basically for its time. It's like,

494
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,960
well, yeah, everyone fuck knew
it, but yeah I wrote it,

495
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,680
but I wrote it right. It's
like the art of war is like

496
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:10,800
if your enemy is making a mistake, let them shit fucking genius or like

497
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,800
yeah, for example, even but
let's go even beyond that, like Homer.

498
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,800
Homer wrote the Odyssey and the Iliot, Yeah wrote them. Those were

499
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,920
Oh those stories existed for stories.
Homer didn't do fucking anything that we documented

500
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:34,079
it right well, and then Johann
Guttenberg made it more widely available. Yeah,

501
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,920
it's honestly, it'd be like if
someone like transcribed our podcast and they

502
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:44,400
were like yeah, uh yeah,
I would be would be a terrible book.

503
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,360
Um. So yeah, all of
rose neighbors corroborated this story. They

504
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,679
were like, yeah, something is
fucking going on. I know if you've

505
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:53,840
read our fucking podcast, like they
gab too much, they get too much

506
00:34:53,880 --> 00:35:02,360
gabbing. No, it's actually all
over our reviews. Now. Yeah,

507
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,840
oh people have caught onto that one. One review is just gab, gab

508
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,440
gap, it's probably Courtney. No, it's not. No, we're making

509
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:15,159
fun of Courtney, supporting making fun
of my wife. She won't hear it.

510
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,400
She won't hear it. She won't
she hadn't listen to it because we

511
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:25,760
gab too much, like right now, just keeps her away. You know

512
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,519
what I do when I need to
watch just like really weird porno in the

513
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:31,519
house is that I play the Gabby
sections of our podcast and keep It's like

514
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:35,599
a mosquito candle, you know what
I mean. It just keeps her away

515
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:37,559
from the area, right, And
then I you better be careful my wife

516
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:42,159
listens to it, she'll tell her. It doesn't matter. In the middle

517
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:44,760
of your wife telling it to her, I'll play the podcast parts where we

518
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,119
get yeah, yeah, it's like
saying skull and bones yes, and they

519
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:51,840
can't. It's just me being like, you know, this is the store

520
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,320
the other day, and Courtney just
has to run out of the fucking room

521
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,679
and you're like, oh, bro
stores fucking hate him. Yeah, and

522
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:00,639
she just has to get the fuck
out. And I don't lamer because that's

523
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:06,639
horrible, horrible gabbing. Yeah,
have you done gabbing. Yeah, Okay,

524
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,280
we'll get back to the scripture.
So presumably at that point by the

525
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:15,239
time doctor Howe's wife was inviting people
or he was just like, fuck it,

526
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,199
whatever. I literally can't sleep every
night. I'm afraid of ghost is

527
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:21,159
going to pop into one of my
daughter, my teenage daughter's room and just

528
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,960
do fucked up shit like I just
yeah, invite the neighbors over whatever.

529
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:30,599
So the story was published in the
Chicago Tribune, and it immediately captured the

530
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,400
you know, the imagination of the
of the neighborhood, end of the city,

531
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:37,840
so much of that. The first
two nights after the story broke,

532
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:45,000
thousands of people showed up outside of
the row house to try and get a

533
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:47,960
glimpse of the ghosts, to try
and get a show. Okay, okay,

534
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,480
did they get one? No,
No, because it's fucking fake,

535
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:59,400
dude. No, it's real,
corroborated by multiple people. They also want

536
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,320
people to look at them. Yeah, neighbors have it. I don't even

537
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,920
know their names. Their neighbors weren't
mentioned. The neighbors didn't get their name

538
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,800
in the story. Zero cloud for
the neighbors. Zero cloud, I'm saying,

539
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:13,119
but it's possible cloud. We're talking
about cloud potential now, like what

540
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,119
is it like inertia? Right,
yeah, potential clout and you have active

541
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:21,199
clout. You got to get in
on the potential cloud before it's active cloud,

542
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,159
because then you're a cloud chaser.
But if you get in on the

543
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:25,239
ground floor, then you're just a
cloud creator. No, if the cloud

544
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:30,400
is not around, then the ghosts
were found. Yeah, but we are

545
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,360
living in the cloud creating an economy. Oh yeah, we are in a

546
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:37,559
cloud economy. Of course. You
just pay people in cloud, that's what

547
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:40,519
That's the mistake people make on Craigslist
where it's like need a graphic designer,

548
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:44,960
can't pay, but great experience get
that cloud. Yeah, what you need

549
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,840
to say is can't pay or will
pay in cloud? Right, any internship

550
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,039
isn't unpaid, it's cloud. It's
cloud. Think about it. It's like

551
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:57,519
you're not a grinder, you're not
a hustler, so you don't have to

552
00:37:57,519 --> 00:38:00,199
pay taxes on cloud. Okay,
so I'm not gonna give you. I

553
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,880
won't give you ten. They'll try, they will, they'll try to collect

554
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,800
on cloud. Don't point at me
like that, say, there's the anti

555
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,280
semantic joke. Yeah, but whose
joke? Was it, Well, no,

556
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:10,599
because he was pointing at you.
I'm pointing at him, but you

557
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:17,679
assumed it was Annie. He's a
Democrat, Democrat whatever. Fucking Yeah,

558
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,559
you don't know what I'm registered.
You're only in Texas, You're only registered

559
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:27,159
whatever you voted in last I think, Oh, you can change it,

560
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:29,320
though I know you can change you
walk in. You'se tell which primary want

561
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,599
to vote in the other day,
I told him when I mostly vote in

562
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:34,320
Republican primaries. Who I told him, who's a Democrat? That? And

563
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,800
They're like, why would you do
that? And I'd be like, well,

564
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,079
because those only races of fucking matter
half the time, that's true.

565
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:40,519
Why the funk would I vote in
a Democratic primary? Analyst? I was

566
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:44,920
very invested in that candidate. Yeah, that's a good point, Like,

567
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,119
why would I ever vote in a
Democratic primary here? Except for like,

568
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:51,000
if it was like a city candidate, sure, everything I cared about most

569
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:53,519
was the city primary, then yeah, I'd probably vote Democratic primary. Yeah,

570
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:58,000
but if it's a statewide office or
a county office, oh dude,

571
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:01,079
yeahs fucking railroad commissioner, do not
vote for? Like why get in on

572
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:07,199
a primary? Like the three fourths
of the real elections or in the Republican

573
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,960
primaries. Yeah. So yeah,
that's why I fucking vote in Republican primaries.

574
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:14,599
She's just throwing a wrench in the
whole machine. That's why Trump was

575
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:19,239
a regular story Democrat for so long, because it's fucking New York May.

576
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,400
It makes sense, Yeah, it
does make sense. It's just pragmatic.

577
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,440
Can you vote in the primary if
you're an independent? What here? Yeah?

578
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,119
You just pick which one? You're
like that. You literally walk in

579
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:30,920
there like demo creator, repep,
like and well you get to pick which

580
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:32,480
even if you're registered as a Democrat, you can't vote in the report.

581
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:35,800
You just can only vote in one. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

582
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:39,039
you don't get to play both sides. No, no, so that they

583
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:43,840
can't. That would be flout it
for Mary and Williamson or something or that.

584
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:47,320
Hey, hey, you'd be nice
to that sweet old lady that told

585
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,360
us crystals would fix the economy.
Okay, I'm sorry. That lady was

586
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,559
great. That was the best fucking
never interrupted anybody. She was very nice,

587
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,800
very nice. I would let that
lady just like be my grandma.

588
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,320
Yeah, I mean I preferred the
guy that wore a boot on his head.

589
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,719
I think his name is. Yeah, yeah, that's that's a Northeastern

590
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,320
canon or rat king. He was
just New York I thought, right was

591
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,880
something like it wasn't running for president, wasn't Maybe it was president whatever.

592
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:19,800
Uh So thousands people showed up outside
the home. They didn't get a show,

593
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:28,360
but not everyone was convinced that ghosts
haunted the Row Home. Me included,

594
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:31,480
Yeah, apparently, you fucking skeptic. The ghosts are real. Do

595
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:35,880
you believe in ghosts? Do believe
you don't believe me ghosts? I believe

596
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,599
in ripples of dimensions in time?
Okay, bing, that's just a ghost

597
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:43,800
by another name. You ever play
BioShock? No, okay, but I

598
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,079
like it. If you're into that
sort of stuff, you would probably love

599
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:47,639
BioShock I need to play. You
would also probably play it too high one

600
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,639
night and like not be able to
sleep. I mean, I do nothing

601
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,480
very high at night, and I'm
not able to sleep, so might as

602
00:40:54,480 --> 00:41:00,360
well play bioshots. This is actually
a BioShock tattoo, kind of is.

603
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,239
It's a little steampunky, isn't it. Yeah, but it's just the lighthouse

604
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,440
from BioShock Infinite. Okay, Yeah, I never played it, never will

605
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,199
play it cool. Yeah, you
have a kid, why would you enjoy

606
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,880
yourself? Yeah, no, it
doesn't make sense. Real quick, before

607
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,360
we get back into how ghosts are
one hundred percent real, we do have

608
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,320
some sponsors to talk about. The
first one is if you think you are

609
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,639
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um. But yeah, so the
story uh caught wind across the country kind

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of like kind of like a Florida
man's story, you know, just like

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a local interest story that's bizarre and
then spreads across the country. Yeah,

714
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everything, like, oh, look
at what happened here, because Florida Man

715
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is not real. Florida Man is
a mad lib. Yeah, it really

716
00:47:53,119 --> 00:48:00,159
is. It's whenever Newsday just create
a Florida Man story, it's not even

717
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a made lib. It's Florida Man. And then the it's just blank the

718
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,159
rest of the way. It didn't
get fill it in. It's the manatees

719
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,039
picking up the yeah, where they
just float in and it's manatees, which

720
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:15,440
is even better. Yeah, yeah
that people jump through Florida Man jumps through

721
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,519
those Yes, you know, you
know why Florida Man exists, right,

722
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:22,639
yes, the laws. Yeah yeah, no, it's like they wouldn't have

723
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:24,840
those stories if it wasn't for that, or if more states had that,

724
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:30,840
Oh it'd be it. Yeah.
I mean look like, yeah, Arizona,

725
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any redneck stay as well? Yeah
oh no, No. Darius from

726
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Atlanta taught us that Florida Man exists
to keep black people from moving to Florida,

727
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,840
right. I would believe that actually
that I have seen that season of

728
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,320
Atlanta. I have seen with the
alligator. He's just beating the beating a

729
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:52,199
flamingo to death. Yeah, it's
a good one. It is. Uh

730
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,199
So. As the story became syndicated
in papers across the country, one paper

731
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:04,159
in particular read this story and said, nah, no, this house isn't

732
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:10,960
haunted. This house isn't haunted because
there can't be ghosts in Chicago. Is

733
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,880
this where the date comes into play? Yes. Rochester, New York's Democrat

734
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:21,039
and Chronicle took major issue with the
story where they offended by it. The

735
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:27,360
issue was Chicago wasn't old enough to
have ghosts. I love I love the

736
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:34,960
clap back with like also nonsense,
right, like two idiots with terrible logic

737
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:37,920
screaming at each other. Yeah,
I kind of like their logic, though

738
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,000
I know you would. This is
actually a very much a Dan take.

739
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,920
Yeah, no, will be um. I think yeah, I think it's

740
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,679
kind of like the Hall of Fame, Like a certain amount of time has

741
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,280
to pass before you can become a
ghost. Okay, So do you think

742
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,119
like you just sit around in like
purgatory or whatever, and then you get

743
00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:58,559
to be a ghost. You get
in you're waiting for the like Saint Peter

744
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:00,320
comes out. It's like, all
right, Jeffrey mcginna, you get to

745
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:07,320
go actually do your time on the
oceans. He's kind of frost the ocean,

746
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,320
right, or do you get to
walk to the bottom at least see

747
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:14,880
the ship. No, you just
create the fog. So the Morning missed.

748
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,440
Chicago had been incorporated in eighteen thirty
seven. At that point, it

749
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,039
was barely fifty years old, although
people live there longer than that. But

750
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:28,440
yeah, I know major met I
know, so fifty years later that that

751
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:34,960
means that a ghost could not exist
after nineteen seventy two in the in Rochester,

752
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,159
New York's while we'll get into a
little more here, so not nearly

753
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,480
enough time for ghosts to take root
in the city. I mean, have

754
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:47,039
you heard of a nineties ghost?
I haven't. I have heard of nineties

755
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:52,559
ghosts. And also in the nineties
rocking a jean jacket in the nineties you

756
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:53,679
heard about all the time. Like
I remember growing up as a kid,

757
00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:58,000
you'd hear about ghosts from the fifties
and shit like you did. Yeah,

758
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,360
you'd hear like Johnny and Janey,
You're like at makeout point, but they

759
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,920
accidentally parked on the train tracks like
a creaser I can get down with as

760
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,599
a ghost for the for the the
greaser exception. Yeah, you got slick

761
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:15,760
hair, you're good to ghosts.
Leather jacket, you snap when you talk

762
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,519
like a switchblade, right, and
you you accidentally got your car, dude.

763
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:22,960
Then one of the number one way
is I thought a person could fucking

764
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,400
die as a child was your car
getting stuck on the train tracks? You

765
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,519
couldn't just get out the amount of
stories you heard about that where it's just

766
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:34,800
like, oh man, I was
like, I'm I'm never driving over as

767
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,119
an eleven year old. I was
like, driving over train tracks, No

768
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:42,280
fucking way mine was. I thought
people got electrocuted in the shower during lightning

769
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,960
storms a lot. Oh yeah,
I'll believe that. I mean, that

770
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,519
sounds like a way a lot of
people in Florida would does not accurate.

771
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:53,159
You can it's extremely rare. There's
like a very rare chance of that happened

772
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:58,480
about a pool, Well, you
shouldn't be in a pool during a storm.

773
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:00,239
Yeah. What if I'm waving a
golf club in the air, don't

774
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,880
Oh yeah, yeah, what if
I'm playing pool golf? I've just wrapped

775
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,079
myself in a loominum foil and I'm
swimming around in my backyard with my toaster.

776
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,199
Yeah, I got my toaster,
my floaster on the boogie board.

777
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:16,039
Let be a fun game, like
you're just throwing like live car batteries into

778
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:20,360
a pool and someone's with a lacrosse
goal stick and they've got to just fling

779
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,039
them back out. That would be
a fun Mario party mini game. Yeah,

780
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:28,639
like roaster no roaster toast. Yeah
yeah, but just like a nineties

781
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:31,840
ghost listening to the grunge, but
you don't believe in a nineties ghost,

782
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,800
even though that goes like there,
I don't believe in ghost, but like

783
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,599
if there was a ghost, Okay, nineties ghost would be kind of cool.

784
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:42,840
So the Democrat and Chronicle they used
the tried and true scientific method of

785
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,000
just pulling a guess all the way
out of their asshole, and they declared

786
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,599
that a city and I think they
took a fence by the way, because

787
00:52:49,639 --> 00:52:53,840
they were much older, like the
pre Revolution. I believe a city can't

788
00:52:54,599 --> 00:53:00,000
have significantly matured to have ghosts until
it's existed for at least one hundred years.

789
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:05,519
So that's based on what nothing they
just said that they were like a

790
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:08,960
hundred yes. I mean they just
arbitrarily were like, it's got to be.

791
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:15,280
It wasn't that there was a ghost
party happening or anything like that.

792
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:20,760
It was that it just you couldn't
do it in less than a hundred years,

793
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,599
right. They needs time to bake, right. You can't bake a

794
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:25,840
cake in three minutes. Right.
They always try it on Chopped or like

795
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,239
any cooking show on the Food Network, and it always fails. You never

796
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,920
have enough time to bake that cake. And then you go to the fucking

797
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,039
ice cream machine and somebody else is
there and they only have one ice cream

798
00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:38,719
machine for some reason. That'd be
a good sketch. Is just trying to

799
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,039
make a ghost that sticks, so
they just have to die horribly. I

800
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:45,840
mean really, you just put someone
in a leather jacket play do Whop and

801
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,599
leave him on train tracks with a
woman, yeah, like Jan and Dean,

802
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:53,840
Yeah, in a pool skirt.
Yeah yeah, mister sand Man that's

803
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,519
playing, and then a train just
rips through him. It's like a train

804
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:02,320
in that first episode man. Pretty
much. Yeah, Um, fifties would

805
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:09,599
have been dope to live in for
like ten years, the entire decade.

806
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:13,599
I don't want to be in Vietnam
that wasn't in the fifties, So you're

807
00:54:13,639 --> 00:54:15,960
in luck. Yeah, I know
what I'm saying that I want to exit

808
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,760
for the ten years of the fifties, the entire decade. Can I give

809
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,199
you there was no draft for Korea, but I'll give you a hot take.

810
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,639
Being in Korea might have been just
as bad. My grandfather said Korea

811
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:31,280
was the best time of his life. Your grandfather was a fucking pogue,

812
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:36,079
as they say. He fixed planes. Yeah, he played basketball on basses,

813
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:39,519
That's all he said he did.
Grandma went to camp. It was

814
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:46,039
a summer camp fixed planes. That's
great, But to be fair, he

815
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:50,880
gave up being drafted by the Dodgers
to go to summer camp, which is

816
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:55,119
real stupid. Your grandpa went to
camp Korea instead of having a professional baseball

817
00:54:55,199 --> 00:55:00,199
career. Yeah, what was logic
that he afraid that there was a draft

818
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:06,239
so we went so yeah, because
to the punch. A lot of people

819
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,280
do that because if you get drafted, you have less control over where you

820
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,199
go. The Air Force and then
I think a week later, as he

821
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,239
signed up for the Air Force,
he got drafted by the Army. So

822
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,800
he just went to the Air Force. Yeah. Oh word, that's why

823
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:22,400
when I mean a lot of people
like brag about enlistment numbers during like World

824
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,119
War two and stuff like that,
but there was actually like a material benefit

825
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:27,760
to you two. Okay, I
actually did not know that. Going to

826
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:32,039
control your destination, it's always the
same destiny and the same with the same

827
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:35,159
with Nam too. So like if
you in list you can be like,

828
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,920
yeah, do you give me?
Literally it's just usually give me the Air

829
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,800
Force or the Navy. Yeah,
I guess, because you're not on land

830
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,159
half of time, or well,
yeah, not a lot of naval battles

831
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:46,079
in Vietnam. Joining the navy was
not a better option than World War Two.

832
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:50,360
I don't think it couldn't be,
especially with the Pacific. If you're

833
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:55,039
in the sounds like yeah dude.
Oh, Also they weren't really the threat

834
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:59,880
of them was very real. I
mean it was just creep into my brain.

835
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,960
I mean, yeah, we had
the Atlantic pretty much under control by

836
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:07,800
the time we got into World War
two in earnest, but still the Pacific

837
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:13,719
was a nightmare. But yeah,
I guess the threats of air and also

838
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,840
underneath you, which is not great. I would not I would have rather

839
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,360
been in the Army than the Navy
and the fucking and there was no air

840
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,920
forces the Army Air Corps in World
War Two. By the time you're grandpa

841
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:27,599
was in it, there was an
air force. But um, but yeah,

842
00:56:27,639 --> 00:56:31,320
So there was an explanation, kind
of a non supernatural explanation for what

843
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:37,119
may have been haunting the Rose.
Oh did we have a like a MythBuster

844
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,480
go in, No ghostbuster, No, not even close. But there was

845
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,800
something else. So, by the
way, doctor Rowe never believed it was

846
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,239
ghosts, but I think he never
wanted to admit that it was ghosts.

847
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:52,280
Right, bad for his brand,
bad for his brand. Everyone's always had

848
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,360
a brand, by the way,
right, we didn't Millennials didn't invent having

849
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:00,840
a brand. We branded brand brands. Yeah, we put it to Yes,

850
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,760
we branded branding. You name the
demon, you control it. I

851
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,159
mean that's the truth. Though,
like you say, it's name, you

852
00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:09,599
get more control over it. And
what do we do. We created careers

853
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:13,360
out of it instead of just being
a fucking product. He decided, hey,

854
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,480
we can at least master this a
little bit, so suck on that

855
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:21,559
Boomers, all right, yeah,
bitches. So the property the entire time

856
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:23,000
the Rows were renting, by the
way, they did not own it.

857
00:57:23,679 --> 00:57:28,360
It was in the midst of a
legal battle between the woman who rented it

858
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,719
to the Rows and the widow who
used to own it, Nellie Wilson.

859
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,360
Now the real estate agent who was
in a part of the Oh that was

860
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,599
a backup job back then too,
real estate agent. Yeah, oh yeah,

861
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,320
it's a safety job. Yeah.
So the real estate agent who was

862
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,960
representing the other woman, not Nellie
Wilson, who the woman who currently owned

863
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,760
the property, right, Frank Turner, He said, I don't He basically

864
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,159
said, I almost said this was
a real quote because they put it in

865
00:57:57,199 --> 00:58:00,639
clothes, but it's not the real
quote. He to paraphrase. He essentially

866
00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:04,159
was like of Nellie Wilson, he
was like, I don't know how,

867
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:07,400
but this bitch is responsible for this. And that's a direct quote, Yeah,

868
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:14,480
direct quote from Frank Turner. And
that's yeah. So he but that

869
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:17,719
bitch did. Yeah he So he
heard everything like a big ghost party's men

870
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:22,440
running up and down, a brutal
knockout, drag down fist fight between two

871
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:27,880
people who disappeared in a murder and
it's all gone. Never there. Frank

872
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,440
Turner was just like, yeah,
I know, I know the stories,

873
00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:35,039
and I don't know how, but
she did it. And so this is

874
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,119
this is the person that currently owns
the property or the widow the widow who

875
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:40,800
who previously owned it. But there
was a dispute over it and and the

876
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:45,119
sale and the legality of it.
And Nellie was upset that she no longer

877
00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:49,960
owned the property, okay, and
allegedly wanted to get the Rows or anyone

878
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,880
who would have been cursed it.
She had motive, Okay, she did

879
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:59,159
have motive. Did she have the
resources. Well, that's the problem is

880
00:58:59,159 --> 00:59:02,000
that the Rows were like, no, dude, we are hearing literally dozens

881
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,400
of ghosts get drunk and fight and
smoke and murder each other and rough house

882
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:12,639
every night. Like an old widow
couldn't do this. Yeah, she shows

883
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:21,440
under the floorboards, letting the house, just doing a bunch of different voices

884
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,360
too. Yeah, yeah, she's
just going big. She bought a funk

885
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:31,239
graph Yeah, first took it into
a saloon, recorded the saloon night after

886
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,639
night, and then just I don't
know, put it down the chimney and

887
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:42,519
played it open and showcase figured it
out that bitch did it. It would

888
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:46,239
be really funny. By the way
if she was actually directly responsible for supernatural

889
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,199
reasons, like she could astral project
some fucked up Texas saloon into their house

890
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:57,760
because she was so mad, She's
like, yeah, rubbing her crystals.

891
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,320
Yeah, it's Marrion Williamson, it
is. Yeah. Um. Eventually,

892
01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:07,840
obviously no one believed that that Sheat
did it, although I don't hate that

893
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,599
theory. Yeah, um, let's
not just throw that out right, is

894
01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:15,199
that she in the lead. Let's
keep that in the mix. Okay,

895
01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:17,920
all right, I want to table
that. Okay, that she could ask

896
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,840
for a project, That's fine.
Eventually the rose moved, Uh, and

897
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,840
the story loss teat. You know, this stuff was going on, Jack

898
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:30,199
the Ripper, that type of thing. So Jack the Ripper is the baseball

899
01:00:30,239 --> 01:00:36,119
player just ripped singles all the time, RBI. RBI Jack is another nickname

900
01:00:36,159 --> 01:00:38,599
for him. Yeah, is Jack
and Hack Hack Wilson and Jack the Ripper.

901
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,480
Hack and Jacks are really doing a
lot of throwbacks to an episode that

902
01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:46,639
has not aired yet. Uh,
well, a lot of people won't listen

903
01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:51,639
to it. Yeah that's good.
Yeah, perfect lucky. So, the

904
01:00:51,719 --> 01:01:00,280
mystery of the Chicago Ghost Rager remains
unsolved. There is perhaps another but I

905
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:06,800
guess also supernatural explanation. So you
guys only know the band Lincoln Park.

906
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,679
You don't know the neighborhood Lincoln Park. It's it is a park. Yes,

907
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,960
there's a park, and there's also
the neighborhood around it's called Lincoln Park

908
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:15,639
like Hyde Park. Yes, exactly. Well in the end, it doesn't

909
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:21,119
really matter anymore. God damn.
I like new as I was writing this,

910
01:01:21,159 --> 01:01:23,000
that you guys are gonna make Lincoln
Park jokes, and I knew I

911
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:28,920
was going to cringe through them.
And here here we are that album with

912
01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:31,360
jay Z. That's the worst thing, and it plays all the time on

913
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:36,920
the radio. Here too, that
one song with jay Z, the famous

914
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:44,039
one numb. I don't know anyway, Can I go fun fun? Yeah,

915
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:49,199
that's what fun. Fact about Lincoln
Park. He sure doesn't. Uh,

916
01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:51,960
Lincoln Park is one of the best
places to live in Chicago, one

917
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,039
of the nicest places. Anyone who's
familiar with Chicago is like, oh,

918
01:01:55,079 --> 01:01:59,039
fuck, you live in Lincoln Park. So, um, I just saw

919
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:05,920
the worst fucking just say it.
Just go forwards because they're spooky, because

920
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:09,400
yeah, no, god, it's
terrible. It turns out Lincoln Park is

921
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,360
full of spooks. I didn't even
have the worst joke this this episode.

922
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:22,800
Lincoln Park is full of spooks um
because what people don't realize is that prior

923
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:28,760
to the Great Chicago Fire, what
Lincoln Park was mostly known for was not

924
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,119
being a park at all. It
was not a park in any way.

925
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:37,679
It was Chicago's main city cemetery.
Oh yikes. Yeah, to this day

926
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:44,920
under Lincoln Park the park, Uh, there are up to ten thousand unmarked

927
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:52,039
graves underneath the soil of Chicago's Central
Park basically, and they would have moved

928
01:02:52,039 --> 01:02:53,679
them. They were planning on moving
them, but the Great Chicago Fire of

929
01:02:53,679 --> 01:02:59,639
eighteen seventy one burned most of the
wooden grave markers, so they had no

930
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:01,320
idea with a grays where they weren't
about to dig up every inch of it.

931
01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:07,199
So they just left literally tens of
thousands of dead bodies underneath their main

932
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,079
civic park. And that's why you
don't go cheap on the burial. Yeah,

933
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:14,440
there was no such thing as an
expensive burial. I guess for these

934
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,119
people, it was more of a
landfill for bodies at this point. I

935
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:22,000
mean, if you're making a crucifix
out of wood, it's not what you're

936
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:25,159
carving the name with a knife,
I mean literally probably maybe painting it on

937
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:30,679
crucifix meant what is you know?
Accurate? Yes, there's a lot of

938
01:03:30,679 --> 01:03:35,320
wooden crosses got burned up in the
Great Chicago Fire and again to this day,

939
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,719
tens of thousands of bodies underneath that
park, which is haunted as shit,

940
01:03:39,199 --> 01:03:46,039
and the neighborhood is as well.
According to local Chicago parapsychologist Ursula Bielski,

941
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:52,079
take that title for what it's worth, She says, Lincoln Park is,

942
01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:57,320
without a doubt, the most active
site I've investigated. She cited activity

943
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:03,000
both visual and auditory. It manifests
itself in heavy atmospheres, and physical effects

944
01:04:03,079 --> 01:04:09,440
like lightheadedness and nausea. Now this
went into full effect one hundred and one

945
01:04:09,519 --> 01:04:15,400
years into Chicago's existence. What um
once they hit the hundred year mark,

946
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,119
that's when all the hunting started,
I guess. But there this house was

947
01:04:18,159 --> 01:04:23,840
haunted in Lincoln Park prior to the
hundred year mark. Yeah, I can

948
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:30,280
actually tell you when Chicago was So
Chicago was incorporated or whatever in eighteen thirty

949
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:36,000
seven, but my guess is it
was actually probably settled before that. Well

950
01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:42,360
before that, I would imagine I
would guess like yeah, um blah blah

951
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,559
blah history in the mid eighteen SI. I didn't looked this up because I

952
01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:49,000
don't. In eighteen o three,
the US Army built Fort Dearborn. This

953
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:53,559
was destroyed in eighteen twelves in the
Battle of Fort Dearborn. There was a

954
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:58,719
War of eighteen twelve battle there.
So what was at Fort Dearborn was So

955
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,960
Chicago started as a fort. Yes, like making every other city. So

956
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:04,840
in seventeen ninety five, uh,
an area that was to be part of

957
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:09,880
Chicago was turned over to the US
for a military post by native tribes.

958
01:05:10,679 --> 01:05:13,679
Uh. Yeah, and then an
eighteen o three the Army built For Dearborn.

959
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:19,000
So we're still under the ghost until
nineteen o three. Nineteen o three,

960
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:26,199
the very earliest Yeah, okay,
myth busted. Yeah, So you

961
01:05:26,239 --> 01:05:31,519
don't buy the fact that Lincoln Park
is literally living out the fucking plata Poltergeist

962
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:36,199
not yet built on top of a
great yard during this period. Well,

963
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:41,559
now, so you buy you buy
the fucking Rochester, New York theory that

964
01:05:41,679 --> 01:05:45,239
it needs to have one hundred years
to cook. Yeah, that seems plausible.

965
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,800
That hundred years. Jesus Christ I
mean, how many times you have

966
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,519
to discuss this Hall of fame?
You have to wait it out? So

967
01:05:53,639 --> 01:05:57,639
ghosts are the good ones, like
the ones worthy of hants. Yeah,

968
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,199
you get to go back to this
plane smoke cigars, sick. What it

969
01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:05,840
happened for life? Yeah? Fuck
that? Um but yeah, that is

970
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:10,079
all I got. The hunting.
That's it. That's the story. Uh,

971
01:06:10,119 --> 01:06:14,119
that's there's no rational explanation that you
could have found. Nope, it

972
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,360
dozens of people witnessed this. No
rational explanation bullshit ever provided. None of

973
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,239
that ever had that house, No
one, No one experienced the fucking thing.

974
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,719
You know, my house does not
even exist anymore. Of course it

975
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,239
doesn't, because this place is fucking
fake. This never happened. None of

976
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,639
it happened. The ghost party happened. No, it didn't. It did

977
01:06:30,119 --> 01:06:34,119
prove it it did, and it
didn't. No, that's not how proving

978
01:06:34,199 --> 01:06:39,079
things works. I'm saying. It
was a fucking ragged story, dude.

979
01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:41,679
No one, No, none of
this happened. This guy didn't want people

980
01:06:41,719 --> 01:06:44,800
to know about it. That's a
lie. You can lie about not wanting

981
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,599
things too. No, No,
all right, so that's bullshit. I

982
01:06:49,039 --> 01:06:54,280
fucking hate this episode. We're going
back to old business. It was the

983
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,239
old owner, okay, underneath the
floor boards, willing to dive into that,

984
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,320
like underneath the floorboards, putting on
a show. And she probably had

985
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,079
Yeah, she had a record player. I hate this so much. God,

986
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,280
I fucking hate this. I'm sorry. I know you're excited about it.

987
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:13,559
I don't know why. But she
had an under a floor whatever one?

988
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,400
No, no, no, I
mean I get that one the most.

989
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,280
You got a better you got a
better theory. No, the only

990
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:23,519
two things you said could have been
possible. We're supernational. Reason. No

991
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:27,239
one had a rational explanation for this
must have been ghosts must be well,

992
01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:30,039
I don't believe when you can't explain
it rationally, you must seek out the

993
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:36,800
irrational explanation. No you don't.
So what stands there now? Uh?

994
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,880
You know what? I looked it
up? Uh it was it's because if

995
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,719
it was a fraternity house, then
it could be a ripple through time.

996
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,480
Especially believe it more if it was
a fraternitas. Yeah, because it could

997
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,400
just be like it's the future back, it's a wormhole. Oh like that

998
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:56,960
one. Even though that's also just
another supernatural explanation. That's bullshit. But

999
01:07:57,519 --> 01:08:00,440
look, I'm just telling you it's
its ghosts and you need to fucking deal

1000
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:05,119
with the fact. So it was
at three ninety four Belden Avenue in Chicago,

1001
01:08:05,199 --> 01:08:10,000
and I'm pulling it up right now. I looked it up earlier.

1002
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:15,119
It was just like a bunch of
uh like restaurants and like an office building

1003
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:19,079
or something in the middle of Lincoln
Park. I wish, Debbie rat there

1004
01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:23,119
is still a park across the street, which means it's full of dead bodies.

1005
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,000
So yeah, I mean, here's
the intersection where it would have been.

1006
01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:30,920
Actually, this might be the building
that looks haunted as shit. Oh

1007
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,520
boom, yeah, so that might
just not be a house anymore. And

1008
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:38,039
then actually here's well, that's more
of an apartment that that probably is past

1009
01:08:38,079 --> 01:08:40,399
that time period. And then the
other ones a new how do you suppoll

1010
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:46,640
row rowe? So yeah, ghosts
are real, and m a bunch of

1011
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:50,039
ghosts had a party in this house
that summer. I think it was more

1012
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:54,079
like it also doesn't seem that bad
it was. It was, I know,

1013
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:56,359
it was like American pie too,
right. They ran at a lake

1014
01:08:56,359 --> 01:09:00,279
house for the summer, partied all
the time. They got medieval time of

1015
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:02,319
ghost hauntings. They had a show
every night. I mean they listen to

1016
01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:05,640
someone getting murdered. Yeah, but
they already did. They were also like

1017
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,720
a good time. What else are
you gonna do? What? What's your

1018
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,119
entertainment options? You had a free
show every night, like you said,

1019
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:15,119
quit bitching. Maybe that's why I
didn't want to tell anybody. You know,

1020
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:18,960
they'd like shake they grabbed doors and
shake them and ship and wake them

1021
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:24,199
out experience. How does this man
supposed already the haunt was too real.

1022
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:27,760
It's like they had their own Disney
World. They got the haunted mansion every

1023
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:33,720
night. Yes, Jake, I
just you don't believe so hard that it

1024
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:38,159
makes me think that you're afraid to
believe a free to believe this shit?

1025
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,840
No, or like, what are
you hiding? Yeah? You're part of

1026
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,640
this? You into this, You
know this stuff. Your family had been

1027
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:51,479
covering this up. Goldman's Yeah,
we hide bad ghost story. What's the

1028
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,880
through line there? I'm missing it. Maybe the journalists that wrote this,

1029
01:09:56,279 --> 01:10:00,199
you know, the New York posts. J Yeah, the New York host

1030
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:08,680
headline for this is Goldman lax jew
doesn't believe in plausible ghost story. I'm

1031
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,640
trying to look for a better explanation
here. I mean, there's none because

1032
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,479
it's ghosts. Your last couple episodes
have kind of fucked my day up.

1033
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,760
Actually, Carahan tape. Yeah this, I'm gonna research this now just to

1034
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,720
be like, what the fuck?
Is not a lot of firsthand I literally

1035
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,880
there's the story all anecdotal. No, it's all. It's all really just

1036
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:31,199
great evidence. Actually, what is
an anecdotal from that period? Right?

1037
01:10:31,239 --> 01:10:38,199
Everything's anecdotal. I'm gonna bow out. See, Jake just argued himself into

1038
01:10:38,239 --> 01:10:41,760
a corner. He is now trapped
there. We have once again proven that

1039
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:48,079
ghosts exists. Uh, who's the
hitler of today's episode? You? We

1040
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:51,039
actually had a review that said all
three of us are hitler? Yeah that

1041
01:10:51,159 --> 01:10:57,319
was that was my second place.
WHOA why what do we do? Made

1042
01:10:57,359 --> 01:11:00,840
a terrible podcast? Yeah? Yeah, we say mean voice an hour of

1043
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,319
their every week. I hope we
have hate listeners, God, I hope

1044
01:11:03,359 --> 01:11:08,920
we do. Look the difference between
a hate click and a click is nothing

1045
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:14,239
right? That checks out? Cash
is yeah right? Baby? Hate reading

1046
01:11:14,399 --> 01:11:18,800
is just paying someone that you hate. Yeah, who's the hitler in this

1047
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:24,760
episode? I think it is the
doctor who was also a pastor, who

1048
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,920
you know, couldn't take care of
his own house. I mean to see

1049
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,520
the Rochester New York magazine or whatever
that was like, oh, one hundred

1050
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:35,239
years, Like I'm working with the
asshole who wrote whatever in the Rochester Democrat

1051
01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:39,479
and Chronicle to be like, no, you need one hundred years. Like

1052
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:44,439
he just that respect him just making
it up. At least he's not.

1053
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,399
He's trying to establish just kind of
a guideline. I think they was trying

1054
01:11:47,399 --> 01:11:51,399
to, like, it doesn't matter
if he's trying to like, it's just

1055
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,920
like seeing Oh no, man,
it's getting hotter because the sun's getting bigger,

1056
01:11:56,239 --> 01:12:00,520
Like is it I don't know,
it just sounds right disproven. Uh,

1057
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,359
that's actually not totally inaccurate. It
does get hotter because the sun gets

1058
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:09,920
what appears to be bigger, because
you know, you're part of the hemisphere

1059
01:12:10,039 --> 01:12:13,560
or trailed closer. You notice how
you preface that with what appears to be

1060
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,039
bigger. The sun isn't expanding,
Like, what do you expect these fucking

1061
01:12:16,279 --> 01:12:19,920
monkey people to know? Well,
the universe is constantly expanding. Well,

1062
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:25,319
that's true, but there's a difference
between expansion and growth, isn't there.

1063
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,880
You tell me the hustle word.
Would you guys learn today nothing? You're

1064
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,640
hitler and I learned nothing. Ghosts
are real? I learned ghosts are real.

1065
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,479
And they liked the party. I
would love to go to a ghost

1066
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,039
part. If I'm want to have
a ghost, I might as well have

1067
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:42,119
this as my ghost, right,
Like, don't you want to hear too?

1068
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:45,640
Like brawlers in a saloon. It's
kind of like some sad old widow

1069
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:53,239
like crying day. Like we're like
a banshee I know, Like you know

1070
01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:57,640
what though, No, people just
fucking wrecked to their cars again driving out

1071
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,720
the highway here in that banshee screech. That's fine, I love it.

1072
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,479
Yeah again, he's they're essentially going
to Arizona and just going to uh kind

1073
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,880
of like a wild West shootout.
If ghosts for real, no one could

1074
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,800
live in the Southeast United States.
I'm sorry, just going to three ten

1075
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,319
to Yuma every night. Yeah,
it sounds fun. God, If ghost

1076
01:13:16,319 --> 01:13:19,640
for real, London would be a
nightmare. Ghost well, a ghost art

1077
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,399
real and b we're gonna we need
to stay in a haunted place soon.

1078
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,920
London would be a nightmare with ghost
because it would be overcrowded. Yeah,

1079
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,760
real, population issue, too many
ghosts. Although I liked Uh you guys

1080
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,640
haven't watched The Haunting of Hill House? Oh yeah you have? What was

1081
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,880
the one? The second season of
that? It was the Haunting of Blind

1082
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,760
Manner. Was that? Oh that
one sucks? It was not as good.

1083
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,640
But I did like their theory that
ghosts just fade away over time.

1084
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,000
Remember, like they lost their faces
and kind of like slowly bleed out the

1085
01:13:48,079 --> 01:13:55,800
last All ghosts throughout time have to
commute to work on clock in for ghosting.

1086
01:13:56,079 --> 01:13:59,159
They gotta get on the training monsters, inc. But that that's a

1087
01:13:59,239 --> 01:14:01,239
great Pixar movie, be I think
it would be. Yeah, you mean

1088
01:14:01,319 --> 01:14:04,159
that movie that talks about how the
world's fueled by the screams of children.

1089
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:11,039
Yeah, like, just imagine the
ghosts getting on public transit like uh like

1090
01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:15,920
Asia just being jammed into the trains
and push them but it can't because you

1091
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:21,359
know. Yeah, Well that's all
I got for today. I'm proud to

1092
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:26,000
have convinced you both that goes surreal. Great job. Still I don't believe

1093
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,239
in ghosts. Well you will when
we stay at a haunted place one I

1094
01:14:30,279 --> 01:14:33,239
will be there. Okay, Yeah, we might do Gettysburg because uh we

1095
01:14:33,359 --> 01:14:38,880
talked about again who listens as she
has friends who work in the park service

1096
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,239
there. Oh yeah, so I
need to hang out. I want to

1097
01:14:41,279 --> 01:14:44,560
hang out in Devil's Den at night, all right, So October obviously,

1098
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,640
yeah, because we can't do July. It had to be that or when

1099
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:54,279
the battle happened, and that we
have an entire month dedicated to these kind

1100
01:14:54,319 --> 01:14:59,600
of ye spooky month. Yeah,
but sometimes the activity is stronger when Halloween

1101
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,840
harmon, I know, but it's
sometimes the activity is stronger when the event

1102
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,199
happened and the Battle of Gettysburg is
in well less than a month actually,

1103
01:15:05,239 --> 01:15:12,119
but uh so yeah, why don't
we just go somewhere else haunted. Yeah,

1104
01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:14,560
we'll go somewhere else haunted. First
we'll gotta be a haunted police.

1105
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,239
I mean, we could just go
down to the Driscoll for all intensive purposes.

1106
01:15:16,359 --> 01:15:19,039
We'll figure it out. Um.
But yeah, that is all I

1107
01:15:19,159 --> 01:15:26,600
got for Jake Goldman and Dan Rojester. I am their fellow believer, Rob

1108
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,359
Fox, and you just got self
served