1 00:00:15,839 --> 00:00:22,280 What is krack Alac and fellow thermonuclear a efforts. I am Dan FAVALLEI coming 2 00:00:22,399 --> 00:00:29,079 at you with my one and only, fantabulous, gloriously fantabulous co host, 3 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:35,479 mister Grant Hughes. We are here to react to everything or as much of 4 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,240 NBA Free Agency two twenty three as we can. Full disclosure, there's a 5 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,079 risk, since we both covered the league full time, that one of us 6 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:47,159 could eventually be pulled away for something depending on what happened, So we will, 7 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,880 you know, just a fair warning. We don't anticipate it, but 8 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:53,399 it is possibility. We will get into it all. But as we're waiting 9 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:56,799 for some people to straggle in here, Grant, how the heck are you 10 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,799 doing? I'm doing very well. Damn this is I'm doing better than I 11 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,079 was like two hours ago, when I was just kind of sitting around refreshing 12 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:08,439 Twitter and like angry at myself because that is that's like prime slop period, 13 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,239 you know, it's just like oh, this, this and that. I 14 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,200 had to stop and say, none of this matters in two hours when the 15 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,959 real thing starts. And so here we're here now. So I'm happy. 16 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,000 I'm happy that we're here now because I had run out of patients for the 17 00:01:23,239 --> 00:01:26,439 lead up to free agency, which is maybe is my least favorite part of 18 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:30,480 the year. You said free agency, the lead up is your LEAs faite 19 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,719 party, or free agency's your least favorite party of the year. The lead 20 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:38,959 up I hate the I hate all the like the deliberate leaks and all all 21 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,719 that stuff. I like when we crossed the deadline, which we did five 22 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:48,480 minutes ago, and now the reports are like actual deals, you know, 23 00:01:48,799 --> 00:01:52,200 agreed to like that that then we can start talking about those and what that 24 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:56,719 means as opposed to hypotheticals. I like getting out of hypothetical season. I'm 25 00:01:56,719 --> 00:01:59,959 with you too, so that's that is among my favorite things to do. 26 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,400 Is like, I like, trades can be fun, but I like analyzing 27 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,439 this stuff that actually happens. And if there's like breaking new like the James 28 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:13,000 Hard stuff, which we will get into of course, I like, I'm 29 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,800 all for talking about that, but speculation gets exhausting. The I think we 30 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,879 need to start and you can drop in the comments if you want us to 31 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:23,520 talk about something specific or if you see something we don't. I'm sure we'll 32 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:30,280 both be monitoring Twitter as best as possible. We already have a bunch of 33 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:32,039 signings. It's amazing how all this stuff happens within the first six minutes of 34 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,800 free agency. It's it's just very, very impressive. So kudos to teams, 35 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,280 players and agents for not talking and the negotiating so quickly. I actually 36 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,080 want to start before there's the Draymond news he's at four years, one hundred 37 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,159 million dollars. I actually wanted to start with Ruth Brown is gone. So 38 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,919 for all the Nuggets fans who weren't insisting, and I'm not taking a victory 39 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,800 lap here, I want him to go back to the Nuggets because he was 40 00:02:53,879 --> 00:02:57,039 such a good fit. For all the people who just thought that he was 41 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,680 going to take the pay cut and then resign a bigger deal later on. 42 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,759 It turns out he apparently won't. I'm seeing a lot of people say that 43 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,639 he's going to the Pacers. I have not seen if you seen a number 44 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:15,000 on that at all, No, I have not. I'm I'm furiously refreshing 45 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:19,560 Twitter right now, and I'm still I'm not. I can't digest it all 46 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,280 because it all is happening too fast right now. I just saw Dario Starch 47 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,439 now I'm looking up Dario Starts stats too. H Well, Draymond, I 48 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,599 think the big one. So Draymond four years one hundred million dollars with the 49 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:37,680 Warriors and a player option on year four. Initial Wow, Kyle Kuzma four 50 00:03:37,759 --> 00:03:40,280 years one hundred and two million dollars to stay with the Wizards. So you 51 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:44,560 were right. You picked over twenty five million on average. You just made 52 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,960 it just barely, Okay, Yeah, so Draymond, because we're gonna have 53 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:53,919 to jump around, I'm sure here, So four sorry, go ahead, 54 00:03:54,919 --> 00:04:01,000 No, No, four for one hundred twenty five million dollars. Average figure 55 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,159 is rough, but we would have expected, right. I think the length 56 00:04:06,199 --> 00:04:10,360 of the deal is a little concerning. But I do believe Mark Spears said 57 00:04:10,439 --> 00:04:15,560 there's a player option in the fourth year, which makes it worse like I 58 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:24,720 was hoping ideally. I think he wanted three and ann t or three and 59 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:29,399 a team option. This This suggests that Draymond had maybe some more leverage or 60 00:04:29,439 --> 00:04:31,680 like the outside interest from other teams was legit, right, because the Warriors, 61 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:41,120 I don't I didn't expect them to have to go. We did. 62 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,759 We lose Grant, We might have lost Grant Grant is I see Grant moving, 63 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,680 can't Grant hear me, I can hear you. I think it's just 64 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:56,120 really laggy right now. There's too much internet happening. So the last thing 65 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,360 I heard you say on Draymond is that there's that he must have had, 66 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,120 I like leverage to get this deal from other teams. I'd be curious. 67 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,120 I guess I would agree with you. I guess i'd just be curious, 68 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,240 Like it clearly wasn't the Kings because they use some of their cap space before 69 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,240 free but some of their caps space they obliterated some of it before free agency 70 00:05:13,319 --> 00:05:16,360 on Harrison Barnes. But I would tend to agree with you that to get 71 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:20,800 the fourth year with a player option is you know, different front office running 72 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,879 things now. But that's a pretty when you look at his age, and 73 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:27,439 just like the progression of not just the core's age, but the luxury tax 74 00:05:27,439 --> 00:05:30,920 bills in Golden State. I'm the I guess like the fourth guaranteed year basically 75 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,360 because the player option, so I view that as guaranteed is a little unnerving, 76 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:43,160 if not slightly surprising. Yeah, I think you mentioned this off off 77 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,319 on just just a few minutes ago, But maybe it's a declining structure, 78 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,240 so it's not just a straight twenty five or it doesn't you know, or 79 00:05:50,439 --> 00:05:54,199 if it is four for a hundred, like that first year number is pretty 80 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,000 low. But I think it's got to be declining. If I had to 81 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,600 guess, I'll just probably be proven wrong in a matter or a minutes here. 82 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,759 But that's kind of the only way that that makes more sense to me, 83 00:06:03,959 --> 00:06:08,040 because that just like you said, the King's money wasn't gonna be there, 84 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,560 and that always seemed like the real boogeyman. Like if there even was 85 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:15,160 one that you could sort of like you could buy that the Kings would do 86 00:06:15,199 --> 00:06:18,160 that would say Draymond three years ninety or you know, something like that, 87 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:21,959 and the Warriors would have to beat that. But that that went away with 88 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,959 the Harrison Barnes deal, So I don't know. That's that's an interesting one. 89 00:06:26,959 --> 00:06:29,759 I will say, would you rather have Draymond Green four for a hundred 90 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,360 at his age or Kyle Kuzma four for one h two? Oh so Kuzma 91 00:06:33,439 --> 00:06:36,199 getting four for one h two from the Wizards of all teams, I would 92 00:06:36,199 --> 00:06:40,959 have thought that was I think it was just they viewed it as the way 93 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,199 you phrase it is asset asset preservation and the other front office didn't move from 94 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:48,600 Tommy Shepherd and crew didn't movement the deadline, and so now you know you 95 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:51,399 have Michael Winger and co. Were gonna want to make sure they don't lose 96 00:06:51,439 --> 00:06:54,920 them for nothing. They were able to get Porzingis with the player option, 97 00:06:54,959 --> 00:06:59,439 made it easier Beal obviously was already under contract. I think I'd rather have 98 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:02,720 the next four years of Kyle Kuzma. I'm not gonna lie he is. 99 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,839 I feel like he's probably overrated defensively now because everyone including I think us, 100 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:12,160 have talked about how underrated defensively he's become. The shooting is definitely a concern, 101 00:07:12,439 --> 00:07:14,959 but he's a better shooter than Draymond, that's not even. And then 102 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,800 just the stuff he's able to do inside the arc, like he had fall 103 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:23,680 aways going and just like it was lights out on like almost everything inside the 104 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,839 Arc this year, and I think that's a deal. By the way, 105 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:29,879 kudos to you. I don't know if you've heard me say this before, 106 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,079 but you said when we did the over under on contracts and I said twenty 107 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:35,360 five million a year for Kuzma, you said he's getting over you just made 108 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,319 it on average twenty five, twenty five and a half. Shout out to 109 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,720 you, Ky Rinker. The chat says, Kyle Rinker, excuse me, 110 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,519 The cuz deal is great. Honestly, I don't know if it's great to 111 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,560 me at least, but like I do think this is a deal that you 112 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,839 can move and we do have to adjust. I think even me right now, 113 00:07:55,199 --> 00:07:58,439 not so much with the dray Draymond deal, but even with Kyle Kuzma. 114 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,120 Are we seeing one hundred and two million dollars over four years and just 115 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,000 getting sticker shock when you know twenty five million dollars in the new salary cap 116 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,360 climate. I mean, if it's the flat twenty five next year, just 117 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:11,920 uses as projections, that's like, what is that twenty percent of the cap 118 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,839 at this point, it's eighteen percent of the cap. That's not really there's 119 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:20,199 nothing. Yeah, it's a little there's always an adjustment period because it used 120 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:24,000 to be. I mean, it wasn't that long ago where the throwaway wasn't 121 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:28,360 you know, an average starters a fifteen million dollar player, and that's just 122 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,039 that's just outdated, you know, to an extreme degree by now. So 123 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,960 yeah, I still I think the money isn't as as surprising to me as 124 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:43,559 just none of nothing about resigning Kuzma at a big you know, I sang 125 00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:46,320 big number, but at that number squares with what the Wizards have done the 126 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:52,600 rest of this offseason, unless like, like you're alluding to, this is 127 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:56,559 just we have the ability to trade him and get you know, get get 128 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,480 picks or get young guys or whatever, and if we let him or just 129 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,919 let someone beat our offer, then you know, we don't get anything. 130 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,639 So it's the initial reaction was, what are they Why are they spending money 131 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:13,159 on a like mid prime starter when they're just gutting the rest of the roster 132 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:16,600 as part of a rebuild. But you know, you can kind of do 133 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:20,000 two things at once. Who's trading Grim in February? I think he's the 134 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,919 real question? Yeah, right, Like it has to be they're keeping him 135 00:09:22,919 --> 00:09:26,639 around a trade, right, That's the only only possible conclusion I would think. 136 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:33,559 So this is per Alex Golden, who who hosts the Setting the Pace 137 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,799 podcast, and he is plugged in with the Pacers, saying, pera source, 138 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,200 Bruce Brown has headed to the Pacers. That's we don't have an I 139 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,960 don't see a number I don't know if I see anyone else with that news 140 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,080 on here, because my Twitter thing is just like fucking absurd right now. 141 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:52,080 Katob j kadabach jop excuse me, two year five million a year with the 142 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,799 Suns, who also, by the way, renouncing or not extending a qualifying 143 00:09:56,799 --> 00:10:00,639 offer to Jacque Jacque Landale felt. I don't want to say bone headed, 144 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,440 but it was surprising Bruce Brown though. That's a monster loss for Denver, 145 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,159 and it's a great fit in Indie and large part because I love Indie spacing. 146 00:10:09,759 --> 00:10:13,519 I do wonder if Brown can defend enough threes to make it really work 147 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,360 there, just because with Mathin and Haliburton, if you want to play those 148 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:20,799 two together, but the defense he brings their spacing. But also he's just 149 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,279 a fit for all three teams in the NBA at this point. And yeah, 150 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,440 oh go ahead, I want to know what that number is, because 151 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:30,799 presumably that they he must have been twelve and a half, right, yeah, 152 00:10:30,799 --> 00:10:33,080 way more than the mid level, because he could have got the mid 153 00:10:33,159 --> 00:10:37,200 level from you know, let's way better teams. We set the over under 154 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,759 at fifteen when we did, Bruce Brown and you we both took the under 155 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:45,559 do we go over now knowing that I think we're both gonna be wrong, 156 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:48,639 and we would have to be I mean, the Pacers are a good situation. 157 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:50,960 I think it'd be You'd love to play with Haliburton. You'd love to 158 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,600 you know, Rick Carlisle is a good coach. You have Miles Turner to 159 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,600 space the floor like it just you know, it's it's an up and coming 160 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,039 team that plays a fun style. They run a lot, but it's just 161 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,039 like, you know, he could have taken the mid level from the Lakers, 162 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,519 for example. You would think that all things being equal, you'd want 163 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:11,120 to be in LA I don't I don't know. There's a couple of I 164 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:15,639 don't know. Jacob Wiley, I saw a report the Pacers would be wanting 165 00:11:15,639 --> 00:11:18,559 to get up twenty million per season. I did not see such a report. 166 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,279 I'm not saying it doesn't exist. If you want to tell me who 167 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:24,120 had it, that's that is. I look, look, if it was 168 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:26,399 one year, twenty million, it's nothing. But if you were the Pacers, 169 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,919 you could probably do worse things with your money to be like, hey, 170 00:11:28,919 --> 00:11:33,720 Bruce Year's two years and forty million dollars or something. A couple others 171 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,440 I'm gonna throw at you that are coming across here. Wait, can we 172 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:43,279 do this deep cut from Tracy Julian Champenny Season in San Antonio with Kata Page 173 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,360 job gone. Yo, shout out, Trace T. I love I love 174 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:50,840 that you're just in here in comment think about Julian Shampenny. We're not even 175 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:54,000 twenty minutes into free agency and that's what's come up. I love you, 176 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:56,080 Tracy. I don't even know if I've seen your comment before, but I 177 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,840 love you. I'm sure then that Tracey has an opinion on or has some 178 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:03,879 feelings about KAA Bates Diap being gone because low key he was one of those 179 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:07,360 guys that you'd hear smart people mentioned is like look out, he might he 180 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,320 might be a really high value signing for like the Sons or somewhere else. 181 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,080 You know. Then then there you go. So, Tracey T, if 182 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:18,039 you're still here, please let us know what you think about KBD being gone. 183 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,120 Hold on though here. So we got a couple others that I want 184 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,120 to get your opinion on. You can pick which one you want to talk 185 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:26,039 about. Kobe White Back to the Bulls three years thirty three. According to 186 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,279 Scham's three for forty according to I think woes, I just must be some 187 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,759 partial guarantees or sent him or something there if we can respond to them until 188 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:37,960 big one comes in. I think, like quick and well, I think 189 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,279 that's if there's gonna be incentives to bring that up. I think that's fine. 190 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,879 I do. My My reaction would be twofold Kobe Bite quietly had and 191 00:12:45,919 --> 00:12:48,200 I call him Colby all the time. In our docks. You get so 192 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,159 not mad, but you're like, why are you putting an l Like where's 193 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,120 this rogue olt coming from? I think that's fine. And he had quietly 194 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,200 had a good year last year, and he's probably their best well not their 195 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,399 best shooter after Zack Levine. Is he their best shooter? I mean, 196 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:05,080 he's in the conversation. I gotta pull up the bulls. But like I 197 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,799 mean, I did a thing on Kobe White earlier before the off season, 198 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:13,399 just kind of I think it was trying to predict where what would happen with 199 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,039 restrictive free agents, and he like, he's younger than you think, and 200 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,879 he hasn't been like this disappointment that I think. I don't know, maybe 201 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:24,440 depending on what you expected out of him, considering where he was drafted. 202 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,000 Maybe, but that's a smart signing. I think he's someone that you know, 203 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,159 if it were if you flash forward to like two years from now, 204 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:37,200 he what if he's averaging like eighteen and eight or something like that with decent 205 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,759 percentages, Like that's not out of the question at all for someone like him. 206 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:45,080 What do you think about Dario Sarich Apparently to the Warriors, according to 207 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,399 Monty Pool and Mark Stein, that's a home run. I think he can 208 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,519 play some small ball five. He can play the four next to Draymond or 209 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:56,679 Kavan Looney. I mean, I was about to say that. I was 210 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,360 about to say that the spacing would be weird with Looney and Arch, but 211 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,200 the spacing is weird with Draymond and b Louoney. So it's just they would 212 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,480 make it work. Defensively, there's definitely questions. He was a lot better 213 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:09,519 before he had the ACL injury, at least while he was in Phoenix, 214 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,000 but when he was in Okay See, and even by the end of his 215 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,720 time in Phoenix last year, he was hitting his threes again. He can 216 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:20,360 give you those like physical shouldery moves around the basket, and in Okay See, 217 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,440 he really had like the little flip shot push shot going And so I 218 00:14:22,519 --> 00:14:26,120 love that for the world because it's someone who I think him play and to 219 00:14:26,159 --> 00:14:28,559 get someone who can play for the league minimum, which is all they can 220 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,320 offer as a big deal. And it also would suggest, I mean to 221 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,559 me that one of the big needs I thought the Warriors had, especially with 222 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,840 Chris Paul, is a lob catcher. And it seems like, sorry, 223 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,759 is gonna be your third string center now, I mean most likely that maybe 224 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,600 because otherwise you're gonna have another big That's just not something the Warriors have done 225 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:50,559 the last couple of years. There are you know, we do go back 226 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:52,840 to the days where they had a few, but you know, Enters and 227 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:58,759 very Giles not walking through that door. Do you can Jonathan Kaminga be that 228 00:14:58,799 --> 00:15:01,919 guy if they're going to like him? Is that maybe what they could be 229 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,360 thinking, like do you run let's say in the second units, like do 230 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:11,799 you run cominga with Schartch Maybe if you're gonna rest both your other bigs at 231 00:15:11,799 --> 00:15:16,759 the same time, I say Biggs in Draymond. I think there's a theory 232 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,720 of cominga as more of like the off ball slasher while someone else is the 233 00:15:20,799 --> 00:15:24,759 role guy. With Chris paul As and a cutter like all the Warriors ever 234 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:28,559 talk about. Is he's just got to become a better score off cuts and 235 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,960 you know, using his athleticism for that. But actually, like what you're 236 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,679 saying, I think I think as a role guy where he just catches the 237 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,320 ball and like dives into people and tries to outjump everybody and finish. I 238 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,720 don't think he's gonna make a lot of great passes as a role guy on 239 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,360 the short roll, but I do think there is a scenario where he is 240 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:48,159 just a pretty good roller. Your face has changed. What has happened? 241 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:54,720 I didn't see it on Twitter. Two years forty five million for Bruce Brown. 242 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,240 Shout out Jacob Wiley and Alice Golden. Of course we're actually having it 243 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:03,639 for two years forty five million. Good for Bruce Brown. That is, 244 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,960 he is making almost as much, Like he's making way more in two years 245 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,639 than the Nuggets could have paid him over I don't even know where were they 246 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:14,639 limited to go out to two years still, and you would have included the 247 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:17,200 player option anyway because you want him to sign off for early bird rights. 248 00:16:17,799 --> 00:16:22,360 I wow, that Look, it's two years, It's just two years, 249 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:25,639 like it's it's an overpay, but at the same time, it's okay, 250 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:30,000 Bruce Brown at fifteen percent of the salary cap, even if he's your sixth 251 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,240 best player, you're a confortable at two years and forty five million. And 252 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:36,840 I think this is something where he can get back into free agency in two 253 00:16:36,879 --> 00:16:41,799 years, he'll still be in his late twenties. And the problem was I've 254 00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:45,279 left open the possibility he could go back to the Nuggets. I wasn't rooting 255 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,919 for him to leave the Nuggets, but for everyone who was reading a lot 256 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,639 into Michael Malone's comments, who's just like, oh, he's gonna take less, 257 00:16:51,679 --> 00:16:56,039 comeback and then get paid. He has not been like cap slock paid 258 00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:59,240 before, so this was his first chance to do that, which is why 259 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,960 I don't think I predicted this, But I always kind of leaned in my 260 00:17:02,039 --> 00:17:06,960 head that he was probably leaving just because the find the like unless the money 261 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,000 just dried up and teams weren't going to use their mid level like full Bigger 262 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,039 Emily at the very least. This was just like, I mean, now, 263 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,160 look, he's twenty six, so I think he'll get back into freeingg 264 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,960 when he's twenty eight, like, this is his this is more money in 265 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,279 the two years and he's made over the course of entire NBA career. Yeah. 266 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,160 Also, any comments about who's staying and who's going made within like seventy 267 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,240 two hours of winning a championship should be dismissed out of hand, like especially 268 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:36,200 if they're made out of parade by a coach that's like definitely been celebrating over, 269 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,200 you know, for the better part of a couple of days. Let's 270 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,920 see Damien Lee back to the back to the Suns. That makes sense. 271 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,039 He's probably gonna I mean, Damien Lee is someone that I feel like fits 272 00:17:47,079 --> 00:17:51,440 almost anywhere, and I imagine he had at least minimum or something more from 273 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,720 a lot of teams. But I manage is gonna play a fair amount this 274 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:57,400 year, even it was minutes were sporadic last season, tore and Prince of 275 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,440 the Lakers four and a half million on one year deal after getting waived by 276 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:06,319 the Timberwolves. Interesting. I think that's I like that fit. I was 277 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,119 surprised that I know the Timberwolves were trying to preserve flexibility, but I was 278 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,279 really surprised. I don't know how you felt when they when they didn't guarantee 279 00:18:12,319 --> 00:18:15,640 his contract because he was at seven and a half, which isn't really like 280 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,240 you know a lot, Oh we got Jeremy Grant. You want don't look? 281 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,759 Do you want to guess what Jeremy Grant got. I'm gonna say he 282 00:18:22,839 --> 00:18:26,400 got thirty two million a year. I can't do math. That's pretty close 283 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,000 though. I think, uh, five years, won sixty to go back 284 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,319 to Portland. Holy shit, they had to give up the fifth year. 285 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,440 Five years Jeremy Grant. What is that team doing? That's thirty two and 286 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:45,599 a half? I was close, So what are they doing? It's well, 287 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:51,880 I guess what this is is the clearest proof ever that this talk from 288 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,880 Joe Cronin and the rest of the Blazers about trying to build a contender is 289 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,960 legit and not just will say this and hope that Dame asked for a trade, 290 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,839 because you I mean, that's a lot of them. That's a long 291 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,920 time and a lot of money for a guy. I feel like I've I 292 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,039 feel like I've talked Jeremy Grant down too much on this podcast because my go 293 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,880 to thought on him. As you know, he was the third, second 294 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,599 or third best player on a lottery team last year and oh yeah, let's 295 00:19:17,599 --> 00:19:21,440 absolutely give that guy thirty million a year, Like that's that's a little unfair, 296 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:25,400 but that's a lot of money. Like who was who was beating that? 297 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,119 Like why did they have to go that high for him? Where? 298 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,200 Where was the cap space and the team that was going to come close to 299 00:19:30,279 --> 00:19:36,720 that, especially if the Pacers gave their cap space to uh to Bruce Brown 300 00:19:36,839 --> 00:19:41,359 like most of it. So that's I don't even look if this was just 301 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,440 a four year deal, I would have been like, okay, whatever, 302 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,759 like, but it's I guess, Look, he's twenty eight, right, 303 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:51,960 so this is gonna take him through his early thirties, would be the theory 304 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,680 there. Do you think this? Do you think this? So if you 305 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,759 had to guess now just based off this Jeremy Grant contract and I hate the 306 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:02,279 frame like this he said, Look, he's a good fit for what Portland 307 00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:06,000 needs. He's their best perimeter defender aside fromatist thigh bill, which I'll be 308 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,200 very interested to see what his number ends up me uh, Like, do 309 00:20:10,279 --> 00:20:14,960 you think this makes it way more likely that baby and Lillard starts next season 310 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,279 in Portland? Right? It has to because I was of the opinion that 311 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:23,359 this that like if you'd asked me up till like four minutes ago when we 312 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:29,160 saw this contract come through, like will Dame beyond? Will Dan be traded 313 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,480 this offseason? I you know, you have to pick yes or no. 314 00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:34,119 I would say yes just because, no matter what everybody's saying, it just 315 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,200 seemed like what the Blazers have done and the roster they have is just they 316 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,759 don't have a path unless they're going to trade Scoot and Shade and Sharp and 317 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,480 whatever else. They don't have a path to jump from thirteenth to like whatever 318 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,279 you'd consider a contender in the West, fourth or fifth. I guess, 319 00:20:49,319 --> 00:20:53,680 so this is okay. I don't want to We gotta be careful because we're 320 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,799 just reacting in the moment, But like, does does the Grant deal not 321 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:03,000 have potential to be like one of the bigger mistakes of what we've seen so 322 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,240 far? Yes, I'd be very interested to see. Is that fifth year 323 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:11,920 a team option of like how much of this is unlikely incentives? Like what 324 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:17,160 if it's really five years one hundred and I don't know, like thirty, 325 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,480 I don't know if that would change You're the way you feel at all about 326 00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:23,160 it, but just I mean, there was talk about four years and one 327 00:21:23,319 --> 00:21:26,720 twenty, which I was comfortable with, and so I feel like I should 328 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:30,920 just be comfortable with five and one sixty just that the length of that deal. 329 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:34,039 I don't because of the nature of what his role can be if he's 330 00:21:34,079 --> 00:21:38,759 willing to be more complimentary on the offensive end, Like I think, there's 331 00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:42,039 always a chance that it won't be a strong like it'll never be even close 332 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:47,279 to the worst contract in the league. But it's a lot for Jeremy Grant, 333 00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:52,279 and it's a lot for a team where it's not okay to have Jeremy 334 00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:56,440 Grant at that number, Like you know what I mean, Like if you 335 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,799 were the I'm just throwing a team, Like if you were the Nuggets, 336 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,559 you can pay Jeremy Grant this money because you're good enough to where it makes 337 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:07,720 sense. But when you're the Blazers and you're so far away from where you're 338 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,839 trying to be, that's a lot. That's a lot. And to your 339 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:18,400 point, so the report I saw that Jeremy Grant heil come from was Ramona 340 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,880 Shelburn and and in it, she says Rich Paul of Clutch Sports is telling 341 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:25,480 ESPN this, so you in that's in that case, you must assume that 342 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:30,079 he is giving Ramona the absolute highest possible number, which because when it comes 343 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,119 from the agent or the player, it definitely is always the higher number. 344 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,599 Oh, Kyle Rinker an a w back in Minnesota on a two year deal. 345 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,319 What's that number? I haven't seen it on Twitter yet, but my 346 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,200 favorite number? But I like that. People know you're you were sending Nikki 347 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,240 Alexander Walker everywhere. That's how you know. That's how you know Kyle's listening 348 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,880 to this podcast before. Yeah, thank you guy. And not because I 349 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,799 don't. It's it's because I like him so much and I won't if if 350 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,079 if it were my team, I would have wanted someone. I would have 351 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,200 wanted a flyer on him, not even a flyer that under. That undersells 352 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:03,119 him. Troy Brown to Minnesota as well, that's coming. We don't have 353 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:07,920 terms on that one. Porzingis want to get porzingis this two year extension? 354 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,960 What does he make? What was his player option for thirty six? Yeah, 355 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,759 I'll say he got thirty two. You're very good at this. Two 356 00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:21,880 for sixty that's I think that's fine. There's still just a functional risk there, 357 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,119 like just with what they did getting rid of Marcus Smart and they lose 358 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,839 so much passing you sacrificed the events of versatility. But I think that number 359 00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:33,000 based off the season he had is fine. Cleveland did not get their wing 360 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:37,759 yet as far as I could tell. But two years and thirty two million 361 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:40,039 for Carson Vurd I see people that are mad, and I'm just like, 362 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:45,279 he was not great during the playoffs. But another creator who shot well enough 363 00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:48,000 from three last year, who actually defended a lot better than I've ever seen 364 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:52,720 him defend. Like that's I don't like, it doesn't solve anything, but 365 00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:56,359 that's you know, if you want salary ballast for a trade that's sixteen million 366 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,240 dollars a year is I'm gonna there's a compiment from cot Dan is great at 367 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,000 math. I'll take it. As a Blazers fan, that's atrocious. I'm 368 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,559 glad that we're not alone in this u as as and as Bryant Singleton says, 369 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:11,640 that's got to be a partial, non guaranteed fifth year on grant. 370 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,880 That'd be my guest at this point, right, I mean, we're like 371 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,200 we're jumping all over the place. That's the nature of this show. Baby, 372 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,720 that's like, yeah, buckle up, that's how this is gonna go, 373 00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:26,480 because that's lame. That needs to be exercised immediately. If that's I 374 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,559 didn't see the team option reporting, that's and that doesn't make it more surprising 375 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:36,359 than he left. But like lame. I wish I wish it were a 376 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,960 player option so we could go full conspiracy theory and say he's just gonna get 377 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,839 his twenty two and a half million dollars payday and then go back to Denvers 378 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,319 next to the following season. But that ain't happening. Now what like what, 379 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,880 I don't know what would have to go wrong? I guess that's what 380 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,119 a what a phenomenal deal for the Pacers now, I mean, like it's 381 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,200 a big it's a big number, but there's almost no such thing as a 382 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,960 bad two year contract, and there's definitely such a thing as a bad one 383 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,720 year contract, which is really all they're on the hook for here. Like 384 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:07,799 that's I mean, that's a that's that maybe is my favorite deal so far. 385 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,839 Yeah, that's a the Pacers. I can't wow. But I mean, 386 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:15,319 look, he got he got paid in one year more than the Nuggets 387 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,599 could offer him. It would have taken them three years to get to that 388 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,519 number. And so like you consolidated your paiday, that's a home run and 389 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:26,759 a half for the Pacers. I have not seen have you seen the Strewce 390 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,240 deal? No, Tracey, are you an insider who had Struce at the 391 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:36,279 caps of four sixty four? Is that's actually it's mildly more than the mid 392 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:37,839 level. So the mid level was twelve and a half you factor in raises, 393 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,880 like getting to sixteen is not that egregious over the mid level to me 394 00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:45,359 anyway. And I just said they didn't get their wing if they got Max 395 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,920 Struce, I didn't see that one. That's a that's a perfect fit. 396 00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:55,160 Like this is someone who I know? Oh what is Denver doing? They 397 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,160 just replaced Bruce Brown with two years of Reggie Jackson. It looks like, 398 00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:07,720 what on purpose do you think Sean's Sean's is gonna string the tweet together and 399 00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:12,119 say just kidding, this was this was an accident. They mistakenly signed him. 400 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,960 Well, what is like are they're they're using the Mini They're using their 401 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:21,279 Mini MLI on Reggie Jackson. So they decided they're using them Minimli, which 402 00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:25,359 they can It's oh uh, yeah, I'm gonna retract my shrew statements. 403 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,680 I don't trust Evan Massey had it seven minutes ago. But I don't trust 404 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:33,799 that is no, we're not But if if Max Streuss, if Cleveland gets 405 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,240 the wing right at the exact moment Dan says they didn't yet hashtag podcasting, 406 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,559 let's see if they actually got that, he would be a great fit. 407 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,200 If that's the number. Uh, and Evan Massey had it one good for 408 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:48,720 him, My apologies. Volume shooters make shots though, and look, I 409 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:52,640 look Compa on purpose, that's your mini. I guess who else are you 410 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,000 gonna get? But like that's your big mini. And Reggie Jackson seems like 411 00:26:56,039 --> 00:27:02,039 a genuinely good dude. But like Grant, come on, that's not what 412 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,200 you He didn't that's what he didn't even play well for them. Yeah, 413 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:10,400 sixteen games for him last year, shot under forty percent from the field, 414 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,359 under thirty percent from three he's thirty two, thirty three now sorry, last 415 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:21,039 year was his age thirty two seasons option A player option? Are we kidding? 416 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,160 Okay, so now we know what you're what your least favorite side of 417 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,720 kids so far? Because I don't know if you're gonna of accidentally signing anybody 418 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:36,400 as we go forward. They brought back DeAndre Jordan. Fine, good locker 419 00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:38,160 room presence. I don't know, like I would like to see him get 420 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,440 another backup big, but like maybe they really trust what they have in tow 421 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:45,519 already. I just this, that might be the worst deal free agency. 422 00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:48,240 So, I mean, Jeremy Grant, all right, it's got to be 423 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,319 up there. But why does Reggie Jackson in the year twenty and twenty four 424 00:27:52,200 --> 00:28:00,400 at that point have a player option and cost you your full mini mL He 425 00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:06,000 I get he's import market, man. I just I'm also brought back DeAndre 426 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,240 Jordan. How do you feel about that? That's fine, I mean it's 427 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,480 on the minimum. I would like to see him get another backup big, 428 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,359 but I don't you know, that's not a big deal to me, and 429 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,319 they gave Reggie Jackson their entire minimil I just, I can't. We should 430 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,640 probably move on to another sign I'm all I'm upset. Now, will you 431 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:25,960 sorry, I'm gonna pick it this wind a little bit. Will you pick 432 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,000 the Nuggets to win the title. Now that they've made the worst signing of 433 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:32,880 free agents, let's take the Blazers to win the title because the Jeremy Grant 434 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,680 contract makes more sense than this Reggie Jackson contract. Oh man, I think 435 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:45,559 we've hit all the Oh, Jake Fisher's talking about er is a key option 436 00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:48,680 quote unquote, that's not that's not concrete enough to hit yet. Should we 437 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,599 talk about Harden while we're kind of waiting for more actual signings to trickling? 438 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,319 Do you have I'm sure you've given your thoughts on either here or several other 439 00:28:56,359 --> 00:29:00,640 places on on where we're at. Yeah, I still just believe the Reggie 440 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,000 Jackson got the full mL E. That's just That's where I'm at. Uh 441 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:11,279 So for so for the hard and stuff is what does this guy want? 442 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,640 And I will say it's clearly not about the money because he just cost himself 443 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,599 another like twelve or thirteen million off his what is Well, we don't know 444 00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:21,559 that. And by the way, I will think super relatable if James Harden 445 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,400 thought he could just get a better job only to find out that he couldn't, 446 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,640 that's like super relatable. Like just had a hot thing, because where 447 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,839 was he going if the Rockets didn't want him? Yeah? I just what 448 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,279 I'm so curious to see this return because opt in in trades. We saw 449 00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:41,480 this just with porzingis the returns are normally nothing. But it's also James Harden 450 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:45,319 and so I don't know where you land. I fully expect him to wind 451 00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:48,240 up with the Clippers at some point, but some have floated that, like, 452 00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:52,839 this is just like a matter of kind of hurt feelings and poor communication, 453 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,759 even though it was technically illegal since he was an extension knowledgeable for them 454 00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:02,240 to for them to talk. But h like, I just where do you? 455 00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:06,640 What do you make of this entire situation? So I guess I should 456 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,680 I should have asked you a more pointed question so that I could get a 457 00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:11,200 chance to answer my own question, which is what I'll do now? Uh 458 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,720 like, which is what were your like, what was your first emotional reaction 459 00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:23,000 to it? Because mine was it's it's not like not frustration per se, 460 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,319 but almost just like my first thought was kind of like, man, it's 461 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,160 it's you. It's not the it's not the team, it's you, because 462 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,079 it keeps you keep having a problem with every team you wind up on. 463 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,640 It's like you have to change the way you play or realize that you don't 464 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,319 get to be you know, a forty nine percent usage guy. Again, 465 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,640 like that's just not how it's gonna work, and like that's unfair and a 466 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,519 player should get to kind of, you know, chart a career path however 467 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:52,519 he wants to. And you know, if Hard wants to live somewhere else, 468 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,160 that's cool. But it's just like, well, was it Doc Rivers? 469 00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:57,720 Was it? The style? Was it? The money? Was it 470 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:03,359 Darryl Moorey the exact that's gone to bat and like afforded him more opportunities and 471 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,880 more leeway than virtually any star has ever been given by an executive. Like 472 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,759 it's just it's so to wrap a sort of more coherent thought around all of 473 00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:19,400 that, I'm I want to be in the James Harden business because he's gonna 474 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,960 find a problem with wherever he is. It's sort of Kyrie ish where it's 475 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,960 just like now you're just signing a guy, or you're trading for him, 476 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,160 I guess in this case, and you must assume that this is a very 477 00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:33,839 short term arrangement, and not just because of his age and where he is 478 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,640 in his career. But it's just like he's found reasons to leave everywhere lately. 479 00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:42,400 And so I mean, I don't know about how you integrate him into 480 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,480 like a functional offense anymore, if if he's not happy playing with the MVP 481 00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:51,559 and you know, being on a contender, I don't know how you decide 482 00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:53,839 what he's worth financially in terms of years and dollars. I don't know how 483 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,279 you build a certain team around him. Like I just I think now I've 484 00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:00,559 been out of the Kyrie business for a couple of year. I think I'm 485 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,759 fully out on being in the James Harden business now too. I just it's 486 00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:07,359 frustrating. Yeah, and there is so well. I mean, Harden's gonna 487 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,559 take We could spend all day on Harden probably, But Javon Carter signed with 488 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,359 the Bulls. I think he got three and twenty. This is like, 489 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,640 like that's that's a fine deal. By the way, Oh, three years, 490 00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:22,440 nineteen million, so that's even better. Uh, Alex Cruso and javan 491 00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,200 Carter in the same back court. Fully, crap, that's a lot of 492 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,319 defense. I will say, free Io Dassoon move now, someone get him 493 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,200 immediately. Yeah, throw thrown off her sheet his way because now I mean, 494 00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:39,319 in addition to Carter, now Caruso, you've got Kobe White is back, 495 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,680 you also have zach Lavine. Does this mean I mean you wouldn't have 496 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,240 zach Lavine trade speculation question to Javon Carter signing. But that's a lot of 497 00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:52,839 guards that the Bulls have, So I don't know yet. Assume it's got 498 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,119 to be gone. I would think you can't, well unless Leavin is on 499 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,920 the move and then and then that would make more sense to have him back. 500 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,039 But otherwise you got a little bit of a log jam going here. 501 00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:05,079 Yeah, and it's like what does it take if like, what would it 502 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,119 actually take to to get him at this point because his qualifying offer was five 503 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,799 and he's an early bird restricted, so like if you know, the Bulls 504 00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:16,799 could match, and they can. He can only get up to the full 505 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,279 mL in his first year. Clearly that's not freaking happening because I misunder like 506 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:28,759 I underestimated his market a great deal, but I'm just very curious to see, 507 00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:30,640 like what do we, like does it does he just get out on 508 00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:34,680 like the five million dollars, like if you or do they if he plays 509 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,839 out I guess the year and his qualifying offer. I suppose that they could 510 00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:39,839 still keep him because he can defend one through four that's why he's so intriguing 511 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,319 to me. But like I'm just I'm like, I want some teams. 512 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,720 I think he could be really good. I know the shooting fell off last 513 00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:51,880 year and I'm seeing the strups. So the strups did go to Cleveland, 514 00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:54,880 apparently. I don't know what the have you seen that deal anywhere? I 515 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,960 can see it popping up on my phone, But look, whatever the number 516 00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:04,000 unless it's something I don't know how Cleveland, by the way, and the 517 00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:06,680 Cleveland I should have said this before and didn't, Like they can't even give 518 00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:08,400 him four and sixty four because they don't have tap space. So like, 519 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,800 I don't know why I was entertaining that deal in the first place. They 520 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,800 can get up to like the minil the mL E, Oh it is four 521 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,400 sixty four. That's what the mL E is now, starting at twelve and 522 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,800 a half and ascending by what is it eight percent? Can you eight percent? 523 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:29,119 It'd be four and a half or five percent, So that's like if 524 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,039 it was flat it would be fifty five percent. Isn't getting you to sixty 525 00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:35,480 four? It must be a sign and trade then that could be that. 526 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,280 You know, there were taught, there were discussions. I forget sorry where 527 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,719 I saw this, but someone was saying, well, the Heat aren't going 528 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,280 to sign and trade anyone like Strus to send out because that'll hardcap them. 529 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,199 It's like, no, you you get hardcapped if you bring in a sign 530 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,880 and traded player, So that that could be what it is. I wonder 531 00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:52,519 what the work It's gonna be a while before we get the rest of that 532 00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:54,920 deal flushed out. I bet, but I think you're right that that is 533 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,639 the only way they could because you can't get there with the mL E money 534 00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:04,000 and Cleveland. That was the only way Cleveland could sign someone outright. This 535 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,719 is an interesting deal, and we will everyone rest of shore. We'll get 536 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,360 back to James Harden at some point. By the way this you wanna know 537 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,800 why you don't give I'm not gonna let this go. You wonder why you 538 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,119 don't give Reggie Jackson the Mini m League because maybe I will do soon. 539 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:21,039 Move can come in and fill that role for the Mini mL LEA My god, 540 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,320 Denver, I'm so mad. You were my twenty twenty four title pick. 541 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,039 You will probably still be my twenty twenty four title pick. You are 542 00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:30,639 my sirens song? What are you doing? You went from they had My 543 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:36,079 favorite signing last year was Bruce Brown, so they immediately we're only forty minutes 544 00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:38,559 in, they have my least favorite signing so far. I'm really I can't 545 00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:45,559 believe how, just like ridiculously angry I am at them right now. So 546 00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:50,719 the Sun signed to Mese met two in addition to keeping Josha Kogie. I 547 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,320 think those are two nifty signings. And like Mettwo is gonna give you probably 548 00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:58,280 if you play him a little bit more floor spacing than Landale, and I 549 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:05,239 would say he's there's like a FD mobility to Landale and Metto feels like more 550 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,280 mobile, like more purely mobile. On the defensive end. I don't know 551 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,639 if he'll be as good in as many minutes like we saw Landale play at 552 00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:16,360 times like where Monty Williams was just cycling through his weird backup center rotation. 553 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,000 But he can also play with another big We've seen a little bit of that 554 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,599 too. I also will say he does not look like either of the Paul 555 00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:27,880 brothers, and I think that's a plus two. What is it? It's 556 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,960 Jake Paul and is it Jason Paul? Who's the other? I hate that 557 00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:34,280 I know that it's Logan, Paul, Logan, Paul, I mean you 558 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,519 have kids, so I mean hopefully they're not watching. They're not old enough, 559 00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:40,599 nor will they ever be allowed, however old they are, to consume 560 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:45,320 that. I think mainly they go on from Landale just because that's the dude 561 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,559 that was playing over DeAndre and then some critical playoff minutes and you need to 562 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,280 kind of wipe that off of the ledger. Yeah, I'm trying. Looking, 563 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,199 I'm trying to say, oh, so it is a sign and trade 564 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,440 for Max Drew's Look at me, I really do know some stuff. So 565 00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:02,320 he was only getting four to sixty four and assign and trade, which is 566 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,360 like, what are they sending back? Jenny Osman and Isaaca Coro? Would 567 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,440 you give I guess I'd give that up for Max drews Oh yeah, I 568 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,840 would. I mean it could just be with the heat, you have to 569 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,280 assume that like, well, this is part of a much grander set of 570 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,679 plans, right, or maybe they Yeah, I don't know. I could 571 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,360 imagine it being I could imagine us finding out the return package and saying like, 572 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,719 well that doesn't make sense, and then two days from now, in 573 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,440 the heat, somehow finingle their way into a third star. He say, 574 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,159 well that I now I get it that this was all part of the plan, 575 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,599 But yeah, what do you think just independent of the way that they 576 00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:44,719 got it done? Four so sixteen a year for Struce guy to be that 577 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,360 theore at right fifth starter? You assume he's starting at the small forward spot. 578 00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:52,559 Is one? Is he good enough defensively? Is he big enough? 579 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,039 Certainly good enough? Well, we've we talked about this before. If we 580 00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,679 think he's a good enough shooter, but those percentages have not been as high 581 00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:04,639 as you might think over the years. I still think it's a good fit. 582 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,519 Do you like, is he is he a big enough improvement on Lavert 583 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:14,440 or slash a Koro slash Lamar Stevens slash Dean Wade slash the five Headed Monster 584 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:21,880 to justify I mean getting hardcapped one and the salary that he's getting. I 585 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,199 kind of think so, But I'm curious on your thoughts. Yeah, I 586 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,199 mean, look, he was at basically nine attempts per thirty six minutes last 587 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,639 year. That's a lot of three pointers. And so it's like, and 588 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,599 the shots he was taking, he can fire some off the dribble, he 589 00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:37,440 can score off motion, we even saw him like he can kind of put 590 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,800 the ball on the floor like in a I would say, mostly a straight 591 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,880 line. Not Duncan Robinson, who's like a great playmaker and all this has 592 00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:49,159 all this directionality to his to his floor game. Now, so I will 593 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,559 the percentages come up in Cleveland, which you can very easily argue had or 594 00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:57,840 has worse spacing when you look at their front court compared to Miami, just 595 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,760 because you can play bam with going to Cale Martin or having love route. 596 00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:04,400 I do think do you think it made it more palatable? What do you 597 00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:07,000 like this for Cleveland? Are you fine with four sixty four and them taking 598 00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:08,119 the shot on Shrews? I think I'm I think I'm good with it. 599 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,159 I think I'm good with it. I mean, he shot thirty five percent 600 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,599 last year. That's better than I thought. He was forty one percent the 601 00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:17,639 year before that. I think the main thing is too in the playoffs, 602 00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:22,320 right, That's probably what's sticking in my mind. I think the main thing 603 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,880 is you're gonna run at him as a defense, and you're gonna stay attached 604 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,119 to him as a defense, like because he just he will get him up 605 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,159 and he's not shy about it, and he can do a little bit with 606 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,320 the ball if you do close it out too aggressively. So I think if 607 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,800 the niche certainly offensively, I think he's a pretty big, pretty big improvement 608 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,360 over what they had. And he did he end well enough to start for 609 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,239 a team that made the Finals basically on the strength of his defense. So 610 00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:52,480 so I'm I think I'm good with it overall. Are you good with three 611 00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:59,679 years and twenty six million dollars for George and Nyang? Nine? The calves 612 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,480 ninety million for three years from Max Drus and George Niang is quite a bit 613 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,840 of money. I know they needed another backup big, but I man, 614 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:13,079 that's like another shooter that's more shooting and good for Minivan. Is he a 615 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,000 good enough rebounder to be like help those line ups where you're just gonna go 616 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:22,320 with only Mobile or only Jared Allen? I he just seems very and again 617 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,119 this might be me overreacting to steaker shock in the moment, unless it's the 618 00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:28,639 Reggie Jackson contract, which was one of the worst deals I've ever seen in 619 00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:32,079 my entire life. Like, I guess we should evaluate it in the new 620 00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:37,320 cap like it's put it's eight million bucks a year basically like for for George 621 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,800 and the egg is that I don't know, isn't it doesn't that seem high 622 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,800 even relative to the cap climbing. I think one Woges report on that comes 623 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:51,760 from the agent. So knock off whatever percentage you would like up from that 624 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,639 total or the years. Maybe it's two plus one, maybe it's actually like 625 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,000 three for twenty two. I don't know if that changes your But like you 626 00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:04,639 know, we're talking about or I wrongly was talking about stru says like is 627 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,079 he a good enough shooter? Niang's been over forty percent every single year since 628 00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:12,360 twenty eighteen nineteen from deep So like, I don't know, he doesn't fill 629 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,079 that small forward spot. He's that's that's not the position he can defend adequately. 630 00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:22,000 But like I guess the theory that the Calves are going with is we've 631 00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:24,320 got these two bigs, we've got these small guards. We just need shooting 632 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,800 around it, which is like not a novel concept in the modern NBA. 633 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,119 But I think if you're gonna overpay, maybe overpay for a guy that's a 634 00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:37,559 career forty point three percent three point shooter on how many attempts does he have 635 00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:40,119 for his career, Like, there's no there's no mistaking yet, fourteen hundred 636 00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:44,639 attempts for his career, like Niang is a legit forty percent three point shooter. 637 00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:47,599 So you know, if I'm if I'm spending a little too much, 638 00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:51,719 if that's the case here, I'm not sure it is, especially if I'm 639 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,400 the Calves. I think I think I'm okay with it. I don't. 640 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,880 I don't really have a problem with that. It is fully guaranteed, though. 641 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,840 Okay, Jake Fisher just just got that. Okay, does that thoughts 642 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,199 at all? You're just looking. I think Georgia is the greatest player alive. 643 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,400 Okay, Yes, Yeah, any other deals that we have not reacted 644 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,639 to that you want to hit on? Oh, Irving five three years, 645 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:22,760 one hundred and twenty six million dollars. That is basically what we predicted. 646 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,280 We said he would get three years and maybe the third year or a fourth 647 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:32,000 year wouldn't be guaranteed. I think that for three years. Let's let's go 648 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:35,719 look three years. No. One hundred fifty four point two was this? 649 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:42,639 Wow, there's a there's a great piece of negotiating by the MAVs. Well, 650 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,039 is it or is it a great leverage play by that's hard to say. 651 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,920 I mean, yeah, it's he's still got but one twenty six point 652 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,320 two that's I mean at forty two million, forty two point one million a 653 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,159 year, so I shouldn't but like so a shorter term, you didn't pay 654 00:42:57,199 --> 00:43:00,480 his max. I'm wondering if this was forty two point one, seems so 655 00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:04,559 exact, I would have to do the math very quickly. I'm wondering if 656 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,239 this allows them to use their bigger mL E or if they have another move 657 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,559 set up that will allow them to use it, although they haven't used it 658 00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:14,760 yet, which would maybe beg uh and suggest no that they're not able to 659 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,679 use it. So that's like a forty two point one just a very exact 660 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,119 number on average, is it not? Yeah, it is, And it's 661 00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:27,039 got to be calculated because, as we've talked about, basically since the initial 662 00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:30,480 trade happened, the MAVs need more than just bringing Kyrie back, right. 663 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,280 They have to build out a defense, they have to find a center. 664 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,440 There's a lot more to do. Yep. So it makes it sorry there 665 00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:40,599 Keith Smith said, it opens up the bigger mL E and so that was 666 00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:45,760 the number. That's I mean, that's that's big. So what do they 667 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,000 do with the mL E? Now? What what Stallas's best move with that? 668 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,079 With that? Dylan Brooks, you are Maverick, there you go. 669 00:43:57,039 --> 00:43:59,280 I don't know, Like, who would you throw if you were Dallas and 670 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,880 it was two years, twenty five million whatever it ends up being, would 671 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,840 you do that two years? I'm okay with I could do it for two 672 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:13,920 years. I guess Memphis might beg to differ. I don't. I'm trying 673 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,480 to think of who's left on the board. I should pull up the I'll 674 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,519 pull up some free agents. Now they're still remaining, like in the mid 675 00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:24,920 level range. That is, So are you the Kyrie deal? Insofar as 676 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,239 you're gonna be in the Kyrie Irving business? This seems like a fairly ideal 677 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,960 outcome. Kyrie has the player option. I think it also allows you, 678 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,079 like it makes him tradeable if Kyrie Irving is there and he's playing Kyrie Irving 679 00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:44,760 on a submax contract is movable with multi years left it Again, his max 680 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,559 was forty seven or whatever it was, so like, it's not like so 681 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,199 far below it's max. But I also wonder if it bodes well. I 682 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,559 swear I'm not trying to like Galaxy brain this shit, but the fact that 683 00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:59,159 he clearly worked with the organization on the number that would allow them to then 684 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,719 go and pay other talent with the bigger m l E like, that's at 685 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,199 least semi encouraging, is it not? Well, I guess, uh yeah, 686 00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:10,400 just like no bucket, no, no, I take your point. 687 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,599 I just wonder how he managed to get all those meetings in with all those 688 00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:17,239 teams in like forty minutes before before he got this deal done with the MAVs. 689 00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:21,199 That Phoenix meeting must have been pretty short, and the Houston one too. 690 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,079 How did he how did he fit it all in? Yeah? I 691 00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:29,039 mean, like, I just yeah, it is hysterical that, oh yeah, 692 00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:31,519 he would consider taking a twenty five million dollars pay cut off his max. 693 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,039 He'll accept let's say, twenty two million from Phoenix, but he ends 694 00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:42,440 up with like twenty million more from the MAVs. I just I think I 695 00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:45,199 really thought, I think part of me we did predict and I but I 696 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,280 thought I was basing it more on what we would do if we were running 697 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,400 the team. We said it was going to be a three year deal, 698 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:52,880 and that at most would be three guarantee years, so we were like, 699 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,840 maybe there's a fourth year with a like a partial guarantee. I kind of 700 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,079 really thought that he was gonna get four. It was gonna be like four 701 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:06,440 and one sixty one seventy or something, And so maybe my expectations were so 702 00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:10,760 low that I'm just incredibly impressed that this was the end result for the Mavers. 703 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,239 Look, I hope it. I don't look flat out k I Rememberen 704 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,320 doesn't really seem like a good person, but he's a very talented basketball player. 705 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,400 And the minutes with him and Donche, which as poor as they were 706 00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:27,559 defensively like they were winning a lot of wanted. Yeah. Now you go 707 00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:30,920 through a training camp and you know, hopefully you'll be able to kind of 708 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,920 even out the crunch time issues, which is where it's felt like they sort 709 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,360 of struggled to find balance. I think this is a I think it's a 710 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,639 I think it makes sense for both sides, is the way I'll frame it. 711 00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:44,840 And it makes efinitely more sense for the MAVs, knowing that they have 712 00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:50,039 that twelve point four mid level to throw around. Still, have you changing 713 00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:53,400 gears? Have you seen the Chris Middleton deal yet, No, would you 714 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,320 like to guess years and dollars? This is my favorite new game, all 715 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,480 right? Chris Middleton, God forty one points something? Right? He got 716 00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:12,760 thirty six million for five years, three for one oho two. That's a 717 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,599 really nifty deal for Milwaukee. Holy, pretty good, pretty good? Wow. 718 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:22,800 I gotta look. I wonder if that lines up with with Janie's deal. 719 00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:29,119 When does his his DEALIX run out? Jannis will be up. He's 720 00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:30,280 extension ele of him now to attack on two years, so I think he 721 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,519 has three years left on his He will reach free agency in twenty twenty. 722 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,440 Sit five is a player option, so he has three years technically if that 723 00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:42,039 last year, if that latter year is a player option for Middleton, which 724 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,119 my guests would be yes, because if he's signing for that much less than 725 00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:51,079 his player option, I'm assuming his previous player option. I'm assuming they gave 726 00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,840 him another one yes player option on the third year for Middleton. So the 727 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,679 Bucks are kind of lining things up here for potentially a hard reset if Jannis 728 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,880 and Middleton and whatever else. So now I mean that leaves brook Lopez. 729 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,440 You you got to assume although brook Lopez was always to me the bigger flight risk