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Art Now not wanting to leave politics, apparently is the basis for a federal
crime. Are you listening to these people anyone? By the way, I
told Nancy Pelosi and Dick Durban about this. The bottom line is this Trump
was charged with two counts of conspiracy and two counts of substruction of an official
proceeding for adopting and pressing an unconventional and controversial legal view that the electors in
this presidential race could be replaced with new electors. Well, the indictment,
according to that analysis, is a complete sham. Well yeah, if you
frame it exactly the way Box News and Laura Ingram tried to frame it,
then sure it looks like a sham. But this is just another technique,
like we discussed on yesterday's episode, that the Republican Party and the Conservative movement
is willing to engage in the highest order, the highest level of gaslighting,
to give some plausible deniability, to give some benefit of the doubt, to
give some sliver of hope, to conservatives who are now facing the third indictment
of their beloved former President Donald Trump. Welcome, ladies, gentlemen, and
gender non conforming individuals to another episode of The Benjamin Dixon Show. Today is
Thursday, August third, two and twenty three. Thank you so much for
joining me. Yesterday we covered the third indictment of former President Donald Trump as
he was indicted in Washington, DC Federal court over his involvement in the January
sixth insurrection and the fraudulent Elector scam as he tried to defraud, according to
four counts of the indictment, defraud the United States of America along with defrauding
voters. There's a lot to cover in terms of how Republicans are responding and
how they are going to new levels of gas lighting in order to give Donald
Trump cover in this particular story. We'll talk about that in a moment,
but today is a rainment day and he Donald Trump is headed to be digitally
fingerprinted now. According to reports, he will not have a mug shot taken.
This is his third indictment and he has not gotten a mug shot as
of yet. This is part of the special treatment that he would get as
a former president that said, the sheriff from Fulton County, Georgia took this
as an opportunity to let everyone know that if Donald Trump is indicted on the
state level charges there headed up by District Attorney Fannie Willis, if he is
indicted in Fulton County, Georgia for his involvement in yet another plot to undermine
the election results from the state of Georgia, if he is indicted there,
he will be fingerprinted and will receive a mug shot. That is according to
the sheriff from Fulton County, Georgia that said, I want to move to
some of the gaslighting. I mentioned it yesterday. You know, one of
the things I do really well is I can tell when Republicans have found a
new talking point. And yesterday we played the clip of the Fox News guests.
In fact, I'll play it again giving us a preview of how Republicans,
how conservatives were going to protect Donald Trump and try to push back against
this prosecution and this indictment. Their technique, well, they are trying to
categorize this indictment as being an indictment of the First Amendment, Donald Trump's right
to exaggerate. Donald Trump First Amendment right to lie, even just outright lie.
Donald Trump's First Amendment right to say statements that could be fraudulent if acted
upon. What they are leaving out on purpose, and I'll read a couple
of tweets from Senators Marco Rubio and others. What they're leaving out is,
well, yeah, there was a crime involved. There was a crime.
This is not a First Amendment indictment, but that does not stop the Republican
Party from using this talking point that we covered yesterday. Take a room for
criticism in terms of the claims being made about stolen elections, but it's criminalizing
all of that. You know. It states in the indictment the president spent
months spreading false rumors and allegations of election irregularities. Really is that a criminal
issue? I mean that is that the basis of this conspiracy? Again,
that was the voice of Attorney Jonathan t who is a conservative commentator on Fox
News. He was using that as a trial balloon. This was the first
time I heard this defense for Donald Trump. And it's not even a defense,
right, it's just outright gaslighting. He tried it out on Fox News
two nights ago, and ever since we've had non stop regurgitation of this talking
point, which is a lie. They are trying to convince Republicans that this
indictment is an indictment over Donald Trump saying false statements about the election, trying
to make it sound like this is a First Amendment issue. Now they have
another defense that they're running simultaneously. Listen to this clip of Lindsey Graham.
He's going to do a two for one. He's doing two things. Specifically,
Number one, he's trying to make the case that this case should not
be tried in Washington, DC, because it's impossible for Trump to get a
fair trial in Washington, DC. And then he simultaneously tries to float that
idea that this indictment is not really a true indictment. It's an indictment of
the Any conviction in DC against Donald Trump is not legitimate. So they're accused.
They're charging him with the crime of taking bad legal advice. That's what
this is about. They're trying to criminalize the attorney client relationship. They're trying
to criminalize exercising in the First Amendment. The judge in this case hayes Trump,
you could convict Trump of kidnapping Lembergh's baby in DC. You need to
have a change of venue, you need a new judge, and we need
to win in twenty twenty four to stop this crazy craft. That was the
dramatic music from Sean Hannity as he gets ready to go, got ready to
go to break of Everything is high alert drama over their own Fox News.
But did you hear the two for one special Number one. They're trying to
convince Fox viewers that this again is an issue of the Department of Justice overreaching
to indict Donald Trump over making false davids when that's not the case. The
second thing they're trying to forward is the idea that this indictment or whether this
case should not take place in Washington, DC. I want to read a
tweet from Marco Rubio, Senator Marco Rubio from the state of Florida. This
is what he said on Twitter about the indictment. He said quote, Apparently
it is now a crime to make statements challenging election results if a prosecutor decides
those statements aren't true. So when should we expect indictments of the Democrat politicians
who falsely claimed Russia hacked the twenty sixteen election. Again, this is not
an indictment about the false statements that Donald Trump made. The false statements were
simply the precursor to the fraudulent elector scam. It was a precursor to the
actions and the violence of January six. It became the foundation for the acts
of fraud. These people know this. Marco Rubio knows this, Lindsey Graham
knows this. Fox News knows this. But that doesn't stop them from gas
lighting the American people. In fact, Marco Rubio managed to get a community
note on Twitter or x or whatever Elon Musk wants us to call it this
week. A community note is when the community gives you a rating on how
truthful your statement is. Now, normally I don't trust the community notes because
it's something that's really stormed and spammed by right wing bots. But somehow or
another, well, here's how it happened. Marco Rubio's statement is so false
that even Twitter community notes had to rate it as such. This is what
the community note says to Marco Rubio's tweet. It says, quote this week's
criminal indictment of former President Trump explicitly states that it is not a crime to
challenge elections or to make false statements about them. The indictment indictments alleged Trump
and co conspirators took actions to commit fraud and impede government functions. Well,
that's finally a win for for community notes, but that still hasn't stopped conservative
from forwarding the same lie, and it doesn't prevent them from forwarding their thinly
veiled threats. Here's another clip from Laura Ingram where she is basically saying,
get ready, because what you've done to Donald Trump, we're going to do
to you. If this is how low the bar is set going forward,
then Smith and Garland and every prosecutor who pushed this fraud of a case should
all expect to face similar treatment to what they're putting Trump through. That's the
thread. So on multiple levels, the Republican Party is doing everything and Conservatives
they're doing everything they can to neutralize the ability of this country to hold Donald
Trump accountable for actual crimes. They will gas light, they will distort,
they will outright lie, and then they will threaten, they will make thinly
veiled threats because we dare to hold the former president accountable. In fact,
it's not even just conservatives. Well, the New York Times. Depend on
which writer you get over at the New York Times. But here's the headline
from New York Times. Trump election charges set up clash of lies versus free
speech. No, it doesn't, the New York Times, this is not
The indictment does not set up a clash between free speech and and lies.
No, it sets up a clash between a president who used his lies as
the foundation for the crimes that he later committed and that he encouraged other people
to commit. The real conflict, the real clash that's going on right now
is how many people are going to create space for this gas lighting that's coming
from Republicans. And not only are they gas lighting us on the basis of
like, like you can't read for yourself. You look at the indictment to
see, oh, he's being indicted for X, Y and Z, and
they said, no, he's actually being indicted for amb. You know,
it's real. It really is, is plane and clear as day as being
able to read for yourself. But it does matter because the party's greatest command
was that two plus two equaled five. And the Republican Party's demand is that
you look at this indictment and forget about. I mean, first of all,
if you just don't read it, then that's even better, and just
take their word forward, because their word says that this is an indictment over
his free speech, therefore it's illegitimate. And if that's not enough, they're
going for this idea. I play a clip in the next after this break,
this idea that Donald Trump should be taken to another district, somewhere more
conservative so that he can get a fair trial, because he's not capable of
getting a fair trial in Washington, DC. We'll be back with more of
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to The Benjamin Dixon Show. Visit us online at the Benjamin Dixon Show dot
com. Welcome back, Yeah, welcome back. So we have a two
full one gas lighting that's happening right now. The entire country is being gas
lit over Donald Trump's third indictment. Conservatives, they have taken the position of
just outright lying saying that this is a an indictment over the First Amendment.
They're trying to limit the scope in the mind of their followers, trying to
limit and say, this is what the indictment is about. Don't ask any
other questions. It's not about actual fraud. It's not about disenfranchising American defrauding
in the United States of America with his fake elector scam. It's not about
that. No Republicans are going with the full throated lie that this is an
indictment over the free speech of the president to tell lies. And then the
second thing they're trying to do is obviously use this as an opportunity to undermine
the Department of Justice, the FBI, but specifically by claiming that it's impossible
for not only Donald Trump to get a fair trial in cities like Washington,
d c but it's impossible for conservatives to get a fair trial in those cities.
Here is Sean Hannity with his dramatic music, asking this question of Governor
Rond De Santis, who is also running for the President of the United States.
And I know your rivals right now, but you said something that I
really stuck with me, and that is, I don't believe any Republican and
get a fair trial in Washington, DC, or New York or in Fulton
County, Georgia. Should there be a better way to administer justice and not
put liberal Democrats in conservative districts for trials. It should be a district where
there is a fair balance of a jury pool. Absolutely. I mean in
DC, they will go after you if you're a Republican. The facts feed.
Damn. Republicans don't have a fair shot there. They should be able
to have a fair trial somewhere else, all right, God, I mean
talk about a two tiered system of justice right there. He's even Sean Hannity
even through in Fulton County, Georgia. Now, listen, I know Atlanta
is black, in Fulton County is Atlanta, but this is still Georgia,
and there is well I'm saying this is still Georgia. I don't live there
anymore, but when I live there, let me reassure you that Georgia is
still white. Atlanta still has plenty of white good old boys as well as
the genter fire. So there's plenty of white folks that are there for Donald
Trump, and there's plenty of conservatives there for Donald Trump. But it's funny
how he pointed out Fulton County, Georgia, as if it is the same
type of elitist bastion of liberal democracy as Washington, DC, or New York
for that matter. I mean, I don't even think New York is right.
So they're really crafting this ridiculous argument that conservatives can't get or Donald Trump
specifically can't get a fair trial in any of these cities. Where do you
want him to go? Well, Donald Trump has a request himself. He's
very specific about it, that this talker boyd has gotten really popular. Donald
Trump took to truth Social last night and this is what he said about his
venue. He said, quote, the latest fake case brought by crook at
Joe Biden and deranged Jack Smith will hopefully be moved to an empire Marcial venue
such as the politically unbiased nearby state of West Virginia. Impossible to get a
fair trial in Washington, DC, which is over nine anti Trump, and
for which I've called for a federal takeover. Well, I mean that federal
takeover part is why you got in trouble in the first place, Donald Trump.
But I digress, continuing on for which I have called for its federal
takeover in order to bring our capital back to greatness. It is now a
high crime embarrassment. It is now a high crime. It's hard reading,
Donald Trump. It is now a high crime embarrassment to our nation and indeed
the world. This indictment is all about an election interference. Okay, Anyway,
he said a lot, but the core part is at the beginning where
he wants to go to West Virginia. He wants to go to West Virginia
to have a I mean, is it because West Virginia went for Donald Trump
in the twenty election? I mean, I know, Georgia flipped. And
so what they're basically saying is that it's impossible for conservative to get a fair
trial Donald Trump, specifically to get a fair trial in Washington DC or in
a liberal or a state that voted blue. Georgia is not blue. Georgia
is purple at best. And that's what I get for arguing and discussing these
things within the frame, the frame that's given to us by conservatives, right
they now, we're going to be discussing whether or not he should change venues.
No, no, we're not going to discuss that in the merits of
whether or not a conservative kit. Of course, a conservative can get a
fair trial anywhere in this country. This entire system capitulates and bends over backwards
for conservatives, especially rich conservative men, but that doesn't stop them from using
this next level of gaslighting. And of course, someone like Ronda Santis goes
one step further and wants to defund the entire DOJ and FBI as a result
of this. So this whether or not they get a change of venue,
it doesn't matter so much as they're using this as an opportunity to forward their
fascist agenda, which is to destroy the FBI the d because the FBI and
the DJ had the nerve to investigate these insurrections in the first place. Listen
to Texas Representative Chip Roy from the nineteenth Congressional District of Texas on Fox News.
We ought to stop funding the stuff, Stop funding alle hundred, my
orcas, an open borders, stop funding an FBI that is out of control,
stop funding a DOJ that's out of control and targeting a former president.
Now, now, don't mistake this for defund the police, right. They
just want to defund the current iteration of the FBI so that they can reconstitute
it into something that is less threatening to the conservative agenda. No matter what
they do. They need a DOJ and an FBI that will look at an
insurrection and turn the other eye because well, they're complicit with it, right.
They want a DJ that works as co conspirators and not people, not
an institution that will ever hold them accountable. And it's again, it's not
just the doj' it's the entirety of the federal government. Listen to Don Junior,
Not Don Junior, which one is this? This is Eric, the
one that he likes less. Listened to Eric Trump as he discusses the need
to defund the IRS because the IRS is weaponized against people like Donald over Russia.
I mean, how about Obama literally weaponizing the IRS against all conservatives.
This is what they do and This is what my father, more so than
any person in American history, has shown the American people. He's literally exposed
these frauds for exactly who they are. And it's sad. We're no better
than some of these third world countries around the world. You know, we
are literally trying to imprison political opponents. We're better than this. So again,
okay, So here's the obvious. Other layer is that this is all
frivolous and from the beginning, and that this is the political persecution of a
political opponent. So they have plenty of ways of trying to excuse this away.
The interesting thing about this particularly indictment is that it has given Mike Pence,
former Vice President Mike Pence somewhat of a backbone, somewhat of a spine.
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Welcome back. What a difference an indictment makes. I want to play a
clip, two clips for you of Mike Pence, former Vice President Mike Pence.
I want to play a clip of him on CNN with Dana bashed last
week, as she has to remind him that Trump and his supporters called for
him to be hanged, and yet he still didn't say anything for the last
year two years said nothing, just kind of, you know, kind of
weaseled his way around it. But his song and dance has changed dramatically.
So the first clip is going to be of of the real Mike Pence,
and then the second clip will be of how Mike Pence is sounding now that
there's a third and dipement on Donald Trump. He's sounding a little frog group
of voters, much more passion than they had in twenty twenty, and much
more passion than they had in twenty sixteen. I think it would be very
dangerous. Does that kind of rhetoric worry you, Well, it doesn't worry
me because I have more confidence in the American people. I'm not concerned about
it. Beyont. That's pretty remarkable that you're not concerned about it, given
the fact that they wanted to hang you on January sixty. Okay, so
that was last week. Now here's Mike Pence yesterday day after the indictment.
The third indictment came down for Donald Trump. But let's let's be clear on
this point. It wasn't just that they asked for a pause. The president
specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes
to which would have resulted in in the issue being turned over to the House
of Representatives, and literally chaos would have ensued. So Martha, I just
people. People can read the indictment, and frankly, I've said before,
I had hoped that it had not come to this point. You know,
I don't know if the government can meet the standard the burden of proof beyond
reasonable doubt for criminal charges, but the American people deserve to know that President
Trump and his advisers didn't just ask me to pause. They asked me to
reject votes, return votes, essentially to overturn the election and to keep faith
with the oath that I made to the American people and to Almighty God.
I rejected that out of hand, and I did my duty that day.
Okay, Mike Pence grew a spine. You know. Of course, he
has the cover now of the indictment from Jack Smith, and he also has
the incentive that he's running for president himself. But I also think that Mike
Pence is a part of the standard Republican establishment that's totally okay with the things
that Donald Trump did. They just don't like Donald Trump because he's uncouth.
Right, So this is this is not a victory, This is not a
change of heart or character for Mike Pence. This is opportunistic and this is
opportunistic for his own personal political ambitions running for president. But also it is
opportunistic and that it is the opportunity that the Republican establishment has to get rid
of Donald Trump. And so he's leaning in. But you know, I
don't know if someone tried to hang me, had their followers tried to hang
me, I think I'd have to lean in and a lot sooner than two
years after the fact. I wanted to go to New York City where twenty
eight year old O'Shea Sibley, a gay black man, was killed while dancing
voguing at a gas station. According to The Daily Beast, O'Shea was attacked
when a group of men approached him and his friends and demanded that they stopped
dancing. According to The New York Times, the men hurled slurs at Sibley,
a gay man, and others before the argument turned deadly. The Times
reported that Sibley had been voguing, a style of dancing originating in the nineteen
eighties and associated with the Harlem ballroom scene and associated today with Beyonce's Renaissance album.
The Dancer O'Shea Sibley. The victim had been dancing and voguing to the
Renaissance album when some men came up and told them to stop. He didn't
stop, and they stabbed him, and they killed him because he was voguing.
I'm going to assume that everyone knows what voguing is, because if someone
as square as myself knows what it is, then I'm quite sure just average
people shouldn't know what voguing is. And um, you know, while it
is, it is traditionally associated with, you know, like the lgbt QIA
scene. You know that they'd be killing it, right. The dance is
just whether it's a woman doing it or a guy doing it, or gender
not conforming individual doing it, it's like it's a style of dance, and
it got this young man killed because of homophobia. I mean, just full
stop. This is why I take the position that I do as a pretty
square conservative traditional guy, a preacher, a pastor, and all the things
that I do, I attempt to be the very best ally I can for
the LGBTQIA community, because there is a faction of people who are actively in
acting violence against their lives. And I don't care what you believe. I
don't care who you love. I don't care what you teach and preach in
your church on Sunday mornings, when we are living in the situation when a
person can die because of the home homophobia that is required to look at a
person who's voguing. And instead of a couple of choices here, you could
have mind. You could have minded your own business and just went on about
your business. But instead of minding your own business, you killed them.
The better option would have been two things. One, just watch and support
and cheer him on and let him do his thing, because it's a fabulous
dance form. And I don't care what I don't care what you believe.
Are you Are you so insecure in your masculinity, in your straightness that seeing
someone vogue triggers you and now you have to enact violence. Then you are
exactly the type of person who is our enemy. You are the enemy of
good faith, you're the enemy of coexistence. And those type of people we
do not have to tolerate in society. Because victims like O'shay Sibley end up
dying. The third option is you could have joined in. Listen, I
can I just say something. I have fun with my kids, and every
nine and then is as corny as square as I am and traditional whatever you
want to label me. Sometimes I have enough fun and I'm silly enough with
my kids to vogue with them. I don't do it as good as as
the guys on the stage, right, But but by my goodness, can
we not have the type of society where you don't have to be gay in
order to just one mind your business and let people live their life, right,
that's the that's the threshold. Mind your business and go on about your
life and let someone be fabulous in their lavender. That's a that's a meme.
Sorry, but you could literally just let someone be fabulous. But we
don't live in that society. We live in the society where if you are
are so homophobic that you can't watch someone vogue without just going about your business
and minding your business, or you can't cheer them on because let them be
fabulous, or you can't be human enough or secure enough to get out there
and vogue with them what type of what type of sad world are we creating
around us? Well, i'll tell you what. It's not one that we're
gonna sit idly by and allow this to continue to happen. Right, We're
not just going to sit back and allow the homophobia and the transphobia to get
to the point where people are being killed on a regular basis and we say
nothing about it, and we don't fight back against it. And so now
a man gets killed because he was voguing a black woman, susgender black woman,
Michelle Dion Peacock, killed because somebody thought she was trans. Not to
mention all of the trans women who are killed because they encountered somebody who is
transphobica. No, no, no, We're not tolerating that kind of siety.
And this is you. Anyone who puts their religion over the humanity,
the life, the fact that these people are being killed. Anyone who puts
their religion over the safety of someone else and then use that or rather use
that religion as a justification to commit acts of violence against these communities. Those
people, those people are the enemies of good faith, and we must opposed
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