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You know who you are. What
you've cut your grass already, You know

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who you are on your block.
Anybody have on their street the guy that

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already cut their grass, Jerry,
I've got mine across the street and it

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looks good. It looks good.
I'm holding out. But only that's what

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I'm saying. I'm holding that time. It's time to hold out in Boycott

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for a little bit here, of
course, right, Well, have the

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front yard. It looks fine at
the wooden house. Backyard is really really

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fuzzy. I mean it's since you've
got the privacy fence with the electronic exactly,

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it's electrode like if you touch your
fence you get electrocuted. Absolutely,

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So I think you're okay, it
doesn't matter, you know that person.

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I'm sorry, you're right. You
don't even have a sign that says electric

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fence because it's my fence. I
don't have to advertise it. It's electric.

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Uh, but you can't help yourself
if you cut the grass. First

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guy, Well, the guy,
Okay. There's two types of people in

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my neighborhood. Well after I moved
out to Dixie from Dixie Highway into Plane

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View, there's two types of people
and I'm the only person out there who's

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the second type. There's the type
of the person that has a lawn.

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This is my lawn. Run your
toes through my lawn. And there's guys

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that have a yard. I got
a yard. You also have people that

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live for yardwork. They literally do
it when it's not even necessary. Then

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we have another guy down the street, a young family who hates cutting his

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grass, doesn't pay anybody, but
eventually does, gets hut his electric mower

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and cuts it like a green and
a golf What about the guy that cuts

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his grass like a baseball diamond.
He's got the lines, you know,

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or some of the lines are only
three or four feet long, and then

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he gets a wider as it goes
along our fright yard kind of looks like

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the monsters because you know, there's
tall grass there, but it's brown a

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couple of times. Okay, So
we have at least three yard in our

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neighborhood that have gone in the direction
of and there's a sign in each one

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of the yards. I gotta do
this. It's called it's like all natural.

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So they planted wildflowers and weeds and
everything. So their front lawn are

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they a pollinator zone is a natural
habitat. I gotta do that. So

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it looks like I'm sorry, it
looks like a house in front of you

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know, the yard in front of
a compton in you know, boys and

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hood, But it is. It
looks I think it looks, but it

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is. It's a I said,
that's the smartest guy on the block,

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right. He never has to do
it. So that's the point. He

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never waters, it, never fertilizes, it doesn't cut it, he doesn't

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do anything. You see snakes and
rats in the middle of the day in

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the middle of the day. But
he has the sign this is a natural

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habitat. Can I bring up an
argument for that? Yes, okay,

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let's say a house does do that
in a a nice neighborhood. Would that

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or would that not bring property values
down? No? Not in our neighborhood.

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Because he was like, oh,
it's so awesome that he's going natural

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fertilizers hurt the earth and probably no
in e town in my neighborhood, Yeah

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it would. If it brings property
values down, then your PVA assessment.

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A lot of hoas would not allow
this problem. So you're welcome. You're

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welcome. I guess we don't have
an h O or I don't have an

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h I specifically made sure I didn't
have any. Oh, my gosh,

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was we did. I've never heard
of such a thing. And then I

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married Susan, moved into her house, and that's the first thing I said

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is we gotta get a privacy fence. We gotta make it twenty feet tall.

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And we started doing this business.
And then here comes the hoa,

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what are you doing to your yard? Whoa? Whoa? Hey, what

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do you do doing to your yard? I went, what the hell do

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you care what I'm doing in my
yard? My wife? Several years ago,

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a guy killed two of his neighbors
because of the property fence. They

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were trying to get it down.
It was too big, and he eventually

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shot them home on church. Oh
that's right, I remember that. And

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then he killed himself. No,
I remember that. That's right. It's

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a tragic story because all the people's
that families that are involved in this are

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like, how did this happen?
It's a fence, it's a fence man.

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That's offensive. All right, question
what am I gonna do it?

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With my eyes closed? Quick question? This is from business first. Okay,

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let's start with you. Johnny all
right, Phil Sheer, Do you

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know him? Do not know him? Chairman of the Cushman and Wakefield Commercial

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Company and Kentucky Incorporated. He says, quote, every citizen has an obligation

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to support our downtown and to restore
the energy and vitality we once enjoyed.

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We hang on. Is your name, Johnny a responsive in sub circles?

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It is in the porn industry,
Oh yeah, and on the street corner.

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I disagree, Yeah, I don't
think it's I don't think anybody should

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be told it's their responsibility to come
down here and spend money if they don't

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want to spend money down here,
or if they don't feel safe enough to

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come down here and spend money.
I was just talking about this last night

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with some friends of ours, talking
about you know how you guys were talking

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about how it used to be when
it was safe down here and the police

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were out in force and it was
a vibrant area. Now everything's moving to

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Nulu the Highlands. As we talked
about yesterday, nobody should be told they

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have an obligation, not in a
free society, to do anything. Dave

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Jenny's let's say my wife and I
felt obligated the other day to go have

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a drink at the Omni. We'll
pay double what it costs out in the

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county and maybe get shot. I
don't have an obligation to do squat.

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The shooting happened at seven o'clock on
a Sunday, which is pretty relatively early.

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Let's go get some dinner. Let's
go ahead and spend money downtown at

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the Omni, which is one of
the nicest facilities downtown, a great restaurant.

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Who forget what the name of the
restaurant and is in there. But

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it's like a five star show me
that you are rounding up gang bangers and

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getting them locked up, I'll start
to think about it. I'm not I'm

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hearing rec centers and interrupters and stuff, and I like Mayor Greenberg, but

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I'm not seeing a ton. That's
what I wanted to say is No,

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I'm not obligated, nor are you
obligated to come downtown. However, are

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pathetic, lousy Louisville judges. You
are obligated to uphold the law, yet

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you don't. Oh, I feel
better, Let's go to my wife.

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My wife and I. My wife
and I get in an argument. I

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want to play this, so we
both go. I feel better. I

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feel this argument is over over.
I feel safe again. Okay, here's

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the deal. I hate when if
you want to ask for my help,

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don't tell me hey, hey,
hey, this is your obligation to help

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me. No, no, it's
not. Bro. If you want hey,

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look bro jack b r a h
bra jack buster. Oh wow it

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back. Next thing, you know, you're gonna be saying g or JT

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yes. And there was a one
of the Metro Council members two years ago

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that screamed at everybody and said what
are you doing? And it was all

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about the crime. And I was
like, what am I? What am

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I doing? Oh? I'm sorry? What am I doing? Oh?

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Okay, yes, this is my
fault. So again, there are a

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lot of challenges for every urban area
in America, but there is a game.

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There was a game plan to get
here. There's a game plan to

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get out of it. Right,
So people say, why are you all

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so heart sent on getting the homeless
and drug addicts out of the business dittric

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downtown. And I will say,
if you're trying to sell Louisville, right,

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if you were selling your house would
you would you like a homeless person

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or a drug addict shooting up on
your front porch while you're showing it to

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perspective buyers. Oh no, no, no, no, no. That's

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your downtown area, which is so
small. Council says you should rent that

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house to them. I know is
a small footprint. It's tiny compared to

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other cities. This is a difficult
stuff. When I come out of the

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garage, take it right, then
a left on fourth. Oftentimes, even

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though there's lots of businesses there,
there's more homeless people than tourists. Oh,

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no question, no question. And
I was hopeful. With Mary Greenberg,

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I'm I'm getting less optimistic, and
I got admit I was let down

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when he was on the show and
I brought up the Safer Kentucky Acting's Oh

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wow, I'm not sure I agree
with that. Well, listen, the

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Safer Kentucky Act is a fantastic bill
unless you're a criminal. If you're a

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criminal, you're probably not gonna like
it. But if you're a law abiding,

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tax paying citizen, that's in your
favor. Yeah, we are not

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horrible people because we want you to
enforce the law and just kind of if

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you want the business district to revitalize
and have people hustling and bustle and having

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a company that comes in here,
or how do you meet conventions come through?

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And how many companies go? You
know what? This Downtown Louis was

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a nice little town. It is. Maybe we should think about opening an

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office here. Okay, how do
you do that? Well, you don't

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do it by having all that environment
around the convention center. And let me

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tell you if I'm I don't know
how the mayor sit. The seal box

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is a gem it is. How
do you have any drug addicts sitting out

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front of the sealbag? They are? They are. I'll see him every

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morning every morning. Now, when
I visited San Francisco, I was in

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the area where all those nice hotels, five star hotels, and it's downtown,

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so I was prepared, right.
There wasn't any homeless around us now

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six blocks that way. But the
second homeless person would show up, either

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the security of the hotel or they
had these groups of people at San Francisco.

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They worked cops, but they were
whatever would swoop in, You're gone,

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van gone out. They didn't want
the money district to be bothered with

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all that and I'm sorry, it
doesn't make them horrible people. Well what

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okay, So let's let's face it. City hall does not want the bums

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out of the business district. They
want them here. So why can't we

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just set up a booth, get
your picture made with the guy making a

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duty on the sidewalk. You know
you make Now it's a tourist attraction.

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Could we bring back bump fights?
Too far? Busted far Jack bra Two

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things happen, Okay, you take
it back, take it back, take

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it back, save it from the
big game against State this weekend. Two

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things happened. Mayor Fisher let the
town get destroyed during the Breonna Taylor protests

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and then COVID came along and emptied
out the office buildings. So there are

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a couple of challenges. We were
on the cusp of Whiskey Row opening all

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kinds of things happening downtown, and
he let it go in about six months.

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It's all it takes. And it
happened before because there were riots in

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the late sixties, yep, and
when the Louisville was still vital downtown and

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a lot of people and that's what
in the late sixties early seventies. That's

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what a lot of folks that lived
downtown moved to Saint Matthew's Linden and farther

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out and out and out. So
what happened thirty years later, whatever,

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No, fifty years later, you've
done You're doing it again. It caught

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me by surprise when my wife and
I stayed at the Seal Box for our

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anniversary back during the summer and he's
like ten o'clock at night, ten thirty

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at night on a Friday're like,
okay, well, let's let's depart the

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bar a little briefly and go down
to Fourth Street live and see what's going

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on and figured to be the active
night life out here, and get some

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guy fer is And it was almost
a ghost town. There was a handful

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of people walking through and at the
time of night on a Friday night in

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the summer, should be standing room
only out there, with people in and

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out of the taverns sitting outside.
Let's face it, Greg Fisher has done

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more damage to this city than the
nineteen seventy four tornado. One of the

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biggest, one of the biggest uh
groups of people we come into the city

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every year is the National Street Rode
associating. Yeah, and it's a great

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bunch of guys and gals. Well
they all now street racing. They always

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have it. They always have a
thing, right, are used to everything

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down here at four Street Live having
dinner stuff. They were doing that well.

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Fisher allowed people just come in and
start flipping tables over. These poor

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guys and gals are from out of
town. They don't know what people are

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screaming in their face. I thought, hey, we're gonna lose this convention.

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So far we have it. David
Beck does a great job of bringing

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money in. Thank you. No
David Beck, not David Back. Why

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does he hang around? He has
nipples too, Okay, man, stop

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talking about David Beck's nipples. He's
a dignitary, is is? Yeah?

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Okay? Uh so. And you
know there's other things that come in here

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too that inove that have kids.
You know, there's national conventions with high

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school folks, and I think there
were some some math nerds here next last

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year for something. I don't think
that's what the parents don't be after the

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eclipse. The parents don't want their
kids exposed to some of what's going on

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downtown now because there's no police enforcement
either that drives a factor for what comes

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to town spring break, I mean
spring break's kicking off right now. People.

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Look, there's so many issues in
the world today where you say I

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have no answers for that. You're
like, I just don't have any answers,

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right. This one has a game
plan out. This isn't easy.

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This has a game plan out.
You have a game plan out. If

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you want to revitalize downtown, it's
a small footprint. Get over yourself,

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it's a small footprint. Do what's
right. And if you know, if

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you don't want to revitalize downtown,
then don't do that. But there's a

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game plan to do it. I
don't know what's preventing you. Now.

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I will give Greenberg some credit because
he has doubled the amount of camps he

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has cleaned out from the from the
previous year. From year one to year

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two, he doubled that over a
hundred times they have moved camps out.

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So at least he's moving in that
direction. But I think he needs to

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pick up the pace. Well,
let's call it like it is. Let's

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call balls and strikes. It's not
just violence downtown thanks to fish Or It's

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spread everywhere across. I sent you
guys a video last night Saint Matthews.

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People you know, kicking each other
in the streets. Buddy, mine got

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robbed at gunpoint on a Sunday afternoon
on Westport Road. Wow. Uh,

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you know it's everywhere now. But
that's what happens when you when you have

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crooked judges that don't want to enforce
the law, and you got a bum

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County attorney. You're gonna get this
word is out, words out that criminals.

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This is a good place to do
business. Do what you want.

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You're not going to spend any time
in jail. If you're homeless, come

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to Louisville. We'll give you everything
you need. We can change that narrative

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and it will take care of itself. Human nature will tell you that whether

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you're a crooked CEO on Wall Street
or you're a lowly criminal drug dealer on

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the corner, doesn't matter, and
everyone in between you. You will do

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what you This is human nature.
You will do what you're allowed to do,

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what you can get away with.
So I when you were in the

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army, if you were allowed to
if you're allowed to get away with an

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extra day of leave, you're gonna
take it. Yeah, you're not doing

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so. It's it's just so if
if you enforce the law, if you

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start to grind, then people go, well, I'm not I don't want

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to do that because it's not worth
it. But people will do what they

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can get away with. So if
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there's no repercussions from it, have
had it. Yeah, all right,

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So it is time for joke of
the day. And I'm just glad you

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called You didn't call me a job
turkey. I was the reason. I

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Yeah, if you had, if
you had connected with that punch you with,

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I would have a right cutter down. All right? Hey sportsball weeks

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let's do another basketball all right?
Right, and it starts tipping off tomorrow

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writers tonight? Hey girl, stop, what's buddy that walks by the window

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here downtown? Not just anybody I
know? Go can you? Yeah?

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Okay, let's do this. That
is tomor night. I was right ahead

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tipping off all right? Uh hey
felmas, Hey right, Why did the

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chicken cross the basketball court? I
don't know. Why did the chicken across

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the bathroom? He heard the ref
was blowing. Must have been the end

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of the game. Okay, Seeman, Johnny, he mentioned spring break.

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We have the path of totality.
Yeah, so you could be sitting in

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traffic for hours. Why not sit
in traffic in a Cook and Reeves luxury

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van our Captains chairs. You can
watch movies H seven nine fourteen fifteen passenger

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vans. Take one of those to
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renting cars. You have it all
right there. Cookandreevesvans dot Com four four

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seven eight two five five. They'll
guarantee your reservation and they also offer wheelchair

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and stretcher transportation. You can't always
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Cook and Reefs Canon Dwight, you
know all about that absolutely, dude.

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Listen. Here's one thing I know
is I am part time carreygiver for someone

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in my family that's elderly, and
it's tough to find someone that you can

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trust and depend on. Cook and
Reeves has never let me down, not

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one time, and they won't let
you down either. And they have used

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cars on the lot to Cookingreevesvans dot
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is clean carpets as far as I
know. Yeah, but zero res Louisville.

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Baby, that's what I'm talking about. It's spring cleaning time. Let's

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get the carpet. Let's get that
a post re immaculately clean. But let's

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not use harsh detergents and chemicals like
the other guys do. Let's use ZR

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water. That's what they do.
They have a patent at ZR Water and

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it gets your carpets and your post
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Three rooms of carpet clean for only
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rooms of carpet for one hundred and
nineteen dollars. But gets better if you

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say Dwight Witten or whas. They're
gonna throw the hallway in for free.

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That means three rooms of carpet and
the hallway thrown in for free for one

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hundred and nineteen dollars. Schedule easily
on a lot at zero rids Louisville dot

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com. Stick around, we're gonna
find out where money's doing this seeming Johnny

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on the news. Then Anthony Pgentini
joins the show. It's all on the

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welcome back News Radio eight forty w
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mean Johnny, of course, Dave. Jenny's rolling off through this hunt day

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with our guests counsel. When Anthony
be out Pgentini, first of all,

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good morning, countsman, how are
you? Good morning? Great to see

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you guys in the studio. It's
good to see you too. But listen,

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let's get straight to it. Man. An uneventful year for you,

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and I mean really big day forty
A. Yesterday you were vindicated by a

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jury of your peers. And I
got to ask you, first and foremost,

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was this whole thing just persecution for
political differences? Because outside looking in,

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I said from day one it was
a witch hunt. Was this just

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persecution for political differences? Do you
think? Yeah? So what I said

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was on Monday that we need to
stop criminalizing political disagreement. Now, to

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compliment my colleagues, I think at
the end they stopped that, right.

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I mean, they made a widely
bipartisan decision to say, no, the

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facts aren't there, We're not going
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is over, I do believe,
and the evidence is there. I mean

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it's in the Ethics Commission record,
it's on the It was in the council

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court that I mean, counselan Winkler
himself admitted he had significant political pressure brought

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to bear. He was told,
quote, you are not a real Democrat

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unless you bring a complaint against him. So it wasn't a hey, I've

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got this evidence or whatever. It
was political pressure being brought to bear initiative.

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So he didn't contact FBI, didn't
contact any kind of outside organization.

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When he finds out what he thinks, he finds out right, who does

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he contact? Well, so two
different things. So counsel Winkler did when

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when he was first brought he he
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Okay, But what was weird was, for example, Counselman Hollander. You

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know, we were real close political
buddies when we were on council together,

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always voted alike. Right, but
he received my Christmas card. I mean,

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one of the absurdities about this is
they said that I was hiding this.

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Right. I put my Christmas card
in every council person's mailbox every December

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within two weeks of the extension that
I had when they voted, I didn't

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vote on it. They voted on
it. I put my Christmas card in

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their mailbox, saying I was now
working for the Louisville Healthcare CEO Council a

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contract with them. The Hollander got
this Christmas card, he didn't read it

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until early January. And now,
this is like a thirty or forty year

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career attorney, right, he knows
the law inside and out. He doesn't

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call the County Attorney's office, he
doesn't call the Public Integrity Unit, he

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doesn't call any of these legal entities. He calls the political director of the

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Majority Caucus. So yeah, I
mean, again, this is all on

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the record. I'm not making that
up. This is all public record under

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oath testimony that the political pressure was
brought to bear initially. So I think

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initially, yes, there was a
lot of political pressure brought to bear.

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They shopped around for somebody to file
this, and they got somebody to file

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it. But again, I want
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Caucus, I was impressed, blown
away, humbled by the final decision they

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made when the evidence was in front
of them. I would say that this

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council did make the right decision and
said, you know what, this should

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not be a political thing. This
should be based on facts and evidence,

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and I would argue they did absolutely
that. But the way it was presented

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was Anthony p Argentini secured money for
Outfit A. Now he's working for Outfit

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A. That's the way it was
presented. And that sounds fishy, How

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is it not? Yeah, So
what I've said, good question. So

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what I've said at my press conference, I apologize. As a matter of

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fact, during the ethics hearing,
I said this, I apologized for the

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optics of it. And look,
the truth of the matter is, as

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I mentioned on Monday, I haven't
got or Tuesday morning, I haven't gotten

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a speeding ticket in twenty years.
The idea that I would graduate from that

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sort of an integrity record too,
what they accused me of is really truly

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absurd. What I think is fair
criticism is when I received the non disclosure

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agreement, when I signed it,
when we started negotiating. Now, at

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that point I was abstaining. I
wasn't talking to anybody about I was doing

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by the law, what I was
supposed to do, what I should have

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done, and what I've apologized to
counsel A Winkler for what I've apologized to

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the council for I should have called
Winkler and said, hey, look buddy,

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this is what's going on. You
should be aware, right just optically,

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we should, you know, make
sure there's no confusion about what's going

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on. And I said in the
ethics hearing months ago, I said if

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I could go back in a time
machine and redo that, I would redo

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that in a second. So I
had no complaint after the news came out

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to say, let's put all the
evidence out there, right, let's get

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it all. Let's get all the
facts out there, because I think what's

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the facts are out there? People
understand this was a misunderstanding. And stylistically,

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should I do something? Should I
have done something different? Absolutely,

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But that is not breaking the law. The law does not require a stylistic

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way to do this or some magical
words. It requires me to abstain.

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And that's precisely what I did.
And the ap odds and TEENI is with

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us now, mat your counsel and
been busy this year with this entire situation.

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Now the deal is done. So
the forty forty million dollars roughly,

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yeah, federal dollars, Yeah,
that canceled. That's canceled, right,

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source group sort of. So to
be clear, the Louisville Healthcare CEO Council

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was not getting forty million dollars.
They were just one of like five or

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six entities. Okay, So the
Louisville Healthcare CEO Counsel is out of it,

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but the other entities are still getting
their money and still working on what

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were they going to do with that
money? What were the programs? Real

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quick, it was all around hiring
healthcare workers, particularly targeting minority and disadvantaged,

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low income populations, getting them into
healthcare careers okay, paying careers.

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Okay. Where the money was pulled
and where did it go? So most

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of it is still doing that,
okay, it's just going to the other

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organizations that were part of that coalition. And then some of it that was

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going to go to the seat to
the Healthcare CEO Council that they repurposed it

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to parks to all that fixed the
pool yeah right right, some infrastructure work

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right yeah. So so and look
that again, because it was related to

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this, I didn't get involved in
that. I abstained from those decisions and

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you get the job. Oh no, I worked for them for over a

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year. Okay, yeah, Now, now at the end of it,

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once the Ethics Commission made their decision, I I voluntarily went to the board

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and said, look, this was
unfair to this group. To be very

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clear with you, the Louisville Healthcare
CEO Council is a wonderful group of people,

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some of the most ethical, honorable
people I've ever worked with, brilliant

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people doing brilliant work in this city, and they have been completely unfairly maligned.

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I did not want to continue to
drag them down. So I went

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to the board and said, let
my contract expire. Let's just let's just

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get this go away. Let's let's
walk away from this. We're all friends,

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right. I didn't want to drag
you down and I'll go off and

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figure something else out. So I
voluntarily said, look, let's just let

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this go away. So what a
year? So how has this impacted your

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family? I look, you know, we all go through situations and it's

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uncertainty is the worst. And that's
really what you were on no solid ground

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for the last year. Had to
be a lot mentally for you and your

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wife and your family. Yeah,
one of the most aggravating parts is I

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never delayed this. I wanted to
get this done and get everything it was.

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The Ethics Commission extended it to the
longest possible time frame they could,

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and then even the Council, the
Council, the Charging Committee said they were

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ready to go late December, and
now we're in mid March till they finally

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finished this. Right, so it
sort of dragged out. But the family,

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it's been tough on them. You
know. I talked about this.

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I got very emotional yesterday morning talking
about the impact of my family. But

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what I also said was my family
is wonderful. I got a wonderful wife,

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twin daughters fourteen years old, and
I said, I'm I'm blessed with

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this family. I pray that everybody
is blessed with a family like that,

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because if you are, you can
weather any storm. Forgive me for that

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if you already brought this up.
But help me understand if when it comes

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to a vote of you abstained,
how is this even a question? Yeah,

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so I just don't understand. Well, uh yeah, I mean that's

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been our argument, right that I
abstained. I did legally what I was

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required to do. Right at the
end of the day, I think their

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point, the opposition's point was it
was a stylistic concern, and then because

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of the stylistic question, they thought
there there must be something else that's wrong.

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As a matter of fact, my
closing statement highlighted this that people thought

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there were something wrong, and then
they tried to back into the answer.

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Yeah, instead just called a federal
investigation. Any federal they do, they

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want to fish deeper, so if
we open it up, we're gonna find

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it. And they didn't find it, and they didn't find it, and

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so yeah, once so they kept
backing up, and that was the flaw

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in their whole logic. They basically
said, well, you had a phone

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call this time, you must have
been talking about, you know, screwing

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over the federal government whatever. Of
course they had no proof of that,

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right, So and again, once
the council saw that the proof wasn't there,

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they made it. Well, you've
been you've been vindicated on this.

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But at the same time, we
see how this happens with the public.

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Do you think this has damaged your
reputation in your district or do you think

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maybe it makes you stronger? I
don't know. Yes, I would argue

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Option B. You got Okay,
yeah, yeah, because first of all

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I said, and I'll maintain to
say, I have been incredibly humbled by

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the outpouring of support. All the
emails I have are just incredibly supportive during

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the process, after the process.
It's been incredible and I can't thank my

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constituents enough. But no, I
think it vindicates me completely right I have

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said from the beginning, the facts
and the evidence will prove that this was

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at best a misunderstanding. Nothing legally
wrong went on here. Nothing was wrong

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as far as the Ethics Code or
anything elital that bore out Everything I've said

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from the beginning bore out in the
end. I think if anything, uh,

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those that made the allegations questions there
what you know, what their thought

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process was. But no, I
think in my case, I think it

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strengthens me, and I do think
unlike what you know. One opinion reporter

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says, it strengthens the Council's integrity
because they did not let this fall.

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I would agree with what they instead
made decisions based on facts and truth.

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I agree with. Does this feel
more personal and political or a little bit

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of both. Was there a couple
of people on the board that you thought,

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man, this is a little personal
against me because we're always going at

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it or or are you just are
you all in the Metro Council, Like

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there's a lot of groups of people
that go at it, but their buddies

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after it happens, Right, But
how much of this is personal and political?

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You know, probably a little more
more political and or Look, I

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will defer to the best nature of
humans, right, I will assume that

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those that voted against me, and
this is all part of moving on,

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Like this is over right, I'm
moving on. I have to we have

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a budget coming up. I have
to work with these folks. We all

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have to agree and negotiate in good
faith to get a good budget for the

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city. That's what we're gonna do, with very very very tiny exception,

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because I can't say one hundred percent. The most people there we have political

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disagreements. At the end of the
day, personally we're pretty good, right,

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Like we'll go up for drinks after
meetings. Right, some of the

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people I have them the deepest political
disagreements with, we have a ton of

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respect and personal relationships. That isn't
one hundred percent, But that's the vast

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majority of you. Yeah, I
gotta think it's gonna be a little awkward

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if you go to the Metro Council
break. Really he's getting a kick kat

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out of the vending machine and up
walks one of these guys or girls right

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next to it. I think your
move for me quickly. I think I

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couldn't do it. Well, of
course you couldn't do it, but the

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saying God forgives wit AND's don't that's
that's for sure. Okay, so we'll

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really give you in twenty seconds.
What's the biggest lesson you've come away from

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this? Uh? You know,
the biggest lesson is more transparency. I

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think if anything again, I had
a blind spot on. I know,

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I'm honest. I need to be
more proactive and making sure everybody knows that

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moving forward. ANTHONYP. Aargentini,
thank you, Good to see you,

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