A high school football coach in Washington's state, Joe Kennedy has resigned after just
one game back on the field. Kennedy had waged a seven year legal battle
to pray publicly on the field after games, citing religious freedom. The US
Supreme Court's conservative majority sided with him last year, allowing his postgame prayers.
However, he decided to step down, citing personal reasons, including caring for
an alien family member out of state. Critics argue that the court shouldn't have
heard the case, as Kennedy no longer lived in the district and had moved
to Florida without notifying the court. Kennedy's case has ignited debate about religious liberties
versus the separation of church and state in public schools. Whether his resignation will
have further implication implications remains to be seen this article. The articles used in
this episode are in AP News by Ed Kommenda and Forbes by William Skipworth.
Phoebe, what do you have to say, Just one word for you?
One tossa. That's it. He is a tossa, and he is nothing
more and nothing less, an absolute toss But he's not the problem here.
The problem here are Alito and Thomas, who are by far the worst pieces
of human detritus ever to wear a black robe in Washington, d C.
And sit in one of those nine chairs at one Washington Street. It doesn't
matter. It seems that they don't give a monkey. This was not a
genuine cake. This was a man trying to impose some form of nonsense on
us, and he succeeded. And those two idiots have allowed the hearing of
other such nonsense, like the nonsensical case of three oh three Cre eight,
the nonsensical case of Pressure Fix and Masterpiece Cake Shop, all of which fly
all the way through the great big illegal precedent that was TWA TWA is a
case that said in the nineteen eighties, if you're a religious person and a
company says, look, please work on a Saturday because otherwise we're going to
move you to a different state, that's fine, because that's unreasonable to do.
What the court has done here is it has allowed people to do the
one thing that should never be allowed. And that one thing that should never
be allowed is not freedom or religion. It's freedom from religion. And that
is the one thing that is now dead. Freedom from religion. Is now
dead in the United States. Jimmy, can you revive it? I don't
know that I can revive it, but I can agree that this is completely
unconstitutional to allow this man to continue doing that and to set the precedent for
other people to do that. So with everything that Kennedy has been through over
the last eight years and drug US all through, drug his community through,
and his football team, the one thing I can agree with him with is
that the best way he can advocate for constitutional freedom and religious liberty is by
working from outside the school, because otherwise he's back on the school and he's
forcing the school or excuse me, in the school, and he's forcing the
school to utilize their grounds, which requires funding and other resources to sponsor his
religion, which of course is on constitution. But I do think that this
guy really was never interested in what was right and what was wrong per se.
But I think he was interested in the spotlight. This gentleman has a
website where he asks for donations, where he offers his services, and where
he makes politically aligned statements that go along with certain candidates, something that I'm
not going to delve into. But all I can say is I see this
whole charade as nothing but that, And I don't have a whole lot of
faith if you will, that this man really cared about people's rights, are
not so, Cynthia. Can you comment on that? I can, and
I will, And I saw what you did there. I saw what you
did, Jimmy, and I agree. I don't have much faith either that
this person is actually really tearing about being God's instrument in order to bring prayer
to the young people on the football field, especially when we covered actually mister
Kennedy a few times in the past, and when his story came up and
it was actually taken to the Supreme Court and the Conservative Court actually sided with
him. Justice Neil Gorcich wrote that the best of our traditions counsel mutual respect
and tolerance, non censorship and suppression for religious and non religious views alike.
But one thing that brought up that mutual respect and tolerance was what Ken Joe
Kennedy was practicing and the school that told him to pray in the locker room
instead of making a grand display after games in midfield. He completely ignored that.
And even the ap article mentioned that the Americans united for separation of church
and state represented the school in the district case. Actually at the Supreme Court
argued that the Supreme courts even should have actually dismissed this case as moot because
Kennedy didn't even live in Bremerton and had failed to notify the court of his
three thousand mile move and for the more civilized world, that's forty eight hundred
kilometers when he went to of all places, Florida, let that sink in.
Regardless, he did cite that he had personal issues and that's the reason
why he left his job, that he fought for seven years to do his
way. And now, as Jimmy mentioned, he has a personal website.
Oh and I was also going to mention, Jimmy, don't forget boyfriend has
a publicist. Okay, he has a publicist. That's somebody with plans for
stardom right there. This is very much so. And I and I agree
with that. I agree with the grifting, and I agree with stardom.
Well, and you know where he's gonna actually get his book? Well,
yeah, I'm breathe, breathe, But you know, four seconds and four
seconds out. But I tell you, well, yes, yes, will
save all English people every time. But but you know with him having actually
a publicist, he actually had lunch with Governor Desantist, and Desantists actually asked
him, would you please, you know a campaign stop with me, but
he turned him down because he is loyal to four a time and died at
former President Donald Trump principles people principles. But just one thing I just wanted
to point out on that we actually talked about on previous shows is that the
team that he coached for over seven years, seven years ago rather did not
have a stellar performance, showing on multiple ocase. So I suppose that along
with all his personal problems, he wanted to announce that he was leaving after
the team actually won the first time that he was coaching again twenty seven to
twelve over the visiting Mount Douglas Secondary School, to show my God still stands
and shows up for your calls just to win football, because that's why God
is around people. I don't know if you knew that that God only in
existence to win football. Yes mebe heart out. Yeah, buddy, God
help me find my car keys this morning. I just want to say that
it wasn't told me Tubville. God also helped me find a parking space.
I didn't know if you knew that. So there you go. So for
Earl Gray Tea for part finding parking spaces and also finding your keys, that
is what God is good for. But you know, I just but nevertheless
than any of that, guys, I just really wanted to remind the audience
of something. But before I do actually remind what the Bible says, because
we are already know that what's important amongst any of our opinions is what the
Bible says, I wanted to go ahead and just give it back to Aaron
to just do a little bit more commentary, if you will, please,
sir. Yeah, I'm gonna try not to get worked up because this this
this this case in our current Supreme Court. If anything's gonna get me worked
up, it's it's these biscors. Yeah. I don't know what theer is,
but I hope it's really really bad. You can say in Parliament,
but only if you're aferrd to somebody who's wasteful with money in any other references,
but you know, Tulsa someone who's wasteful with money. So gorse is
in his opinion on the case, and I think somebody mentioned this as well,
that the best of our traditions, you know, council mutual respect and
tolerance, not censorship and suppression for religious and non religious views alike. No,
the best of our traditions is a secular state is a state free from
religion. That is the best of our traditions. When you have when you
have a secular government, it gives everybody the freedom to practice the religion as
they choose in private. Sec Secular governments require freedom and democracy, require respect
and tolerance. Religion is the institution that engenders authoritarianism. God the ultimate authoritarian,
do what I say or else. Censorship. All those religious nutballs that
want to ban books, I don't see many secular people out there trying to
ban books. Religious institutions suppression. They're the ones that want to enforce sexuality,
they want to enforce gender expression. They want to put a limit on
free speech. So if I could put up bluntly fork the Supreme Court,
fork Mitch McConnell for putting this court together fort Clarence Thomas and his corrupt hypocrisy.
That's what religion does to people. The ends justify the means. It's
okay to be corrupt if it furthers the kingdom of some corrupt god, fort
God, and all the religions Phoebe especially breakdown what actually happened in this case.
So the Supreme Court have said, effectively, you could say a few
words to yourself on some grass whilst kneeling after you've had your backside handed to
you by a better football team. Think of how much time has been wasted.
You've got death row cases, you've got constitutional questions. But they've done
is. They have said, yeah, we'll hear the case about the man
kneeling on the grass. I mean, come on, he's kneeling on the
grass. And they said, look, please don't do that, and he's
gone. But I want to it's my religion. They've gone, please do
it in the locker room, Please don't do it here. Yeah, but
I want to kneel on the grass. I want to kneel on the grass
from shut my eyes and look a complete prapp total and nut on war on
or wanker a tossa you know, human detritus, absolute brain rot. Sure
there's no altromotive the fifty yard line in front of everybody, No Altria motive.
There just was the private quiet prayer. I'm sure the real question just
happens to be the fifty yard line where everybody can see and hear him.
Now, the real question is how many downs did it take him before he
realized that he was going way up? Did he score his touchdown? Did
he do the conversion? And do you conversion anybody? But he definitely touched
down in Washington, DC. But what I would say is that this second,
one second, I just wished it. We just had am. But
I'm bumpching just for you right now. But continue. But what I would
say is that this is indicative of the Roberts Court. The Roberts Court takes
up tripe. Genuine tripe is fed to the Roberts Court and it comes out
in rubbish like Burbevy, hobby Lobby, Masterpiece cake shop, three oh three,
creative. It's Varnum, which was a case about a guy who was
suing for a dollar a dollar. He said, I want nominal damages because
they said I couldn't evangelize the people on university grounds. What planet is the
Roberts Court living on? What absolute nonsense? I mean? John Roberts since
two thousand and ten, has shown that he will go down in history as
the worst Supreme Court justice America has ever had Roger B. Tawney. You're
off the hook, Jimmy. Are you putting Roger B. Tawney back on
the hook or replacing him with John Rogers? I replaced him. I replaced
him with Chief Justice Roberts a long time ago because he couldn't even get the
oath right when he signed in or swore in Barack Obama. I mean,
they had to redo our presidential oath behind closed doors. So that was a
that was a no go for me. That was a no go. You're
a chief justice, you need to know what the constitution says that you're required
to do. You say that, though, but thinking of big, big
moments in American history. They got the name of O. J. Simpson
wrong when they were reading out the verdicts. They said that they got his
name wrong to stop, so they had to do it again. Enthal James
is tricky. They put that on anyone. Uh, you know, I
think I think the Gorsage quote about mutual respect and tolerance is like a really
important point and I'm glad that everybody picked up on that because uh, and
and forgive me for kind of repeating what Aaron said, but I have to
I have to concur what about the mutual respect that the people who are not
getting uh these things at the hand of the of any church of any religion,
right, They're they're using this idea of mutual respect to prop up their
own interests and then oppress people in the same token. So that just that
kind of echoes with what Coach Kennedy said, no Americans should be forced to
choose between their faith and the job they love. Well, it looks like
he chose his faith over the job he loves. But what about the Americans
that have no choice in the matter and are being forced to subject their children
and have to sit through this constitutional violation perpetuated by the Supreme Court. Uh,
not only in the case you know, or in the case of the
prayer at the in the middle of the field preceding the court verdict, but
also all the cases that come after. I mean, who's really being forced
into anything? Is it? Is it the religious people who always cry victimization
or is the rest of us, uh secular nuts who just want to enjoy
ourselves without being without being force fed religion. So having said that, I
just want to say, I think there's also some some truth to the fact
that this guy, after eight years, returned to a community that's probably sick
of him. I mean, he was there probably for one week and decided,
you know what, I'm just not in anymore. I mean people probably
shake their heads and roll their eyes when this guy comes because they just want
to watch their kids play football, not be on Fox News. While the
Supreme Court case, you know, kind of covers the events for the day.
And I will say, lastly, you know, while it's easy to
knock the overt offenses that we know that the Supreme Court is taking, and
the overt offenses that we know religious people are comfortable with against the rest of
us, I do want to highlight that I hope Coach Kennedy's family member is
okay. I mean that I'm not a complete, complete monster. I don't
want to see anybody in pain or suffering. So if he really did have
to step away to take care of somebody, I just want to, you
know, offer condolences and say, hope it works out. Cynthia, what
do you think, Well, you know, I have I have things to
think about. I did want to just mention that, you know, one
of the things that I really believe that mister Kennedy is positioning himself, especially
since he felt that he could do better work outside of the school that he
was employed. And and also you know, he did say that he does
plan to help people understand and embrace the historical ruling at the heart of this
case. And he and with that, I was thinking, since you were
asking what, I thought that he was most likely positioning himself to be another
face for like maybe like the Christian nationalism and possibly to be even used by
organizations like the National Association of Christian Alimmakers that will most likely try to capitalize
on this case and do more legislation that blows the lines between religion and government.
But that was my particular thought. But I believe the Phoebe you did
have a smidge to So whilst we may all be going out of here wanting
to, you know, scream and stuff, don't don't everybody, don't.
Go instead and read the case of Satanic Temple the Sauce And Valley School District,
because that was a case of religious freedom that I can get behind.
That was a case where saus And Valley School District said no to the Satanic
temple. The Satanic Temple. You may think a lot of things about the
Satanic Temple, but they are not a genuinely religious with a capital R group.
There are a small R religious group in the same way, for tax
purposes a church is, and a mosque is also for tax purposes, a
small see church. So this group of effect actively atheists calling themselves the Satanic
Temple try to get a room on school premises, just like the Christian group
did, just like the Jewish group did, et cetera. And they were
told to and they went to court, and the court told school district you
telling them to fuck off. We're telling you to fuck off because you were
wrong. They have just as much right as atheists as those who have theism
to have school premises accessibility. It's good for the goose, it's good for
the gander. Now get me out of here. I'm an atheist. The
Yeah. The absolute corruption on display by this by the Supreme Court has started
with McConnell not seeding one of President Obama's nominations, not even having a hearing
on it, and then it goes on to what we found out from Pro
Publica, the gifts that Clarence Thomas has received over the years, unapologetic about
it, unapologetic, and then to the to the kses, they're they're they're
taking they have that they have no business taking this case, in particular,
Coach Kennedy lives in Florida. When it get into the Supreme Court, and
they chose to hear it anyway, even though he assured the court that,
oh, no, I'm ready tomorrow to take my job back. Yeah,
you're you're across the country. I don't think so. The Court wanted to
take this case, and so they didn't care what the reasons were. They
let it slide through. And you've mentioned Phoebe, the three or three creative
case where the person that was supposedly injured injured by this lost by the rules
by being forced to create websites for same sex couples, never even received an
actual request from the same sex couple to make a website, had no standing
whatsoever, no grounds to see their case in the Supreme Court, and the
Supreme Court hurt it anyway because they wanted to, because they wanted to make
a statement, they wanted to be activists, and they wanted to change the
law. And the Supreme Court needs we need we need it needs to change.
I'm not sure what about it needs to change it. We need more
judges, if we need retire term limits, that's for people smarter than me
and more loyally than me to decide. But something's got to be done about
our Supreme Court, Cynthia, I agree, something definitely needs to be done
about the Supreme Court. I know that there's actually talks of actually in positioning
the code of ethics for the Supreme Court. I know that Congress is actually
mulling it over, trying to push something into that in particular aspect. I
hope that they do. I you know, I know that our government is
actually set up with our three branches, our executive branch, our legislative France,
and our judiciary branch in order for us to provide checks and balances for
one another. But you know, it seems like that we're having a hard
time these days with the checks balance. And there's a reason why there's a
reason why Christian Nationalists are going up went after the Supreme Court. It's a
reason that was our target is because it's the it's the most susceptible to corruption
and least least likely to be checked exactly, especially when you have your judges
there for life, but book. But I'm bum chain exactly. But you
know, I just want to leave our listeners with something going back to the
demonstration and mister Kennedy decided to do and fight for his job back for seven
years. Let's go back to the not so good book. I've a lot
to take our listeners to Matthew six verse five in the Authorized King Jamee's version,
for you fundies in the audience. And when thou wast pray, thou
shalt not be as the hypocrites are nay nay, or they love to pray
standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the street, that they may
be seen of men. Barely, I say unto you. They have their
reward. Verse six says, but thou, when thou wast pray, enter
into thine closet, and when thou hast shut thy door to keep out the
devil, pray to thy father, which is in secret, And thy Father,
which seeth in secret, shall reward the open. And verse seven concludes,
But when ye pray, use not vain repetition as the heathen dona no
no, for they think that they shall be heard, for they are much
speak, be not therefore like unto them. For your father AH know it
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