1 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,559 It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this. Welcome to the Game 2 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,280 Mesticides podcast. This is the podcast where we decide everything about the world of 3 00:00:34,359 --> 00:00:37,520 video games, so you never have to think for yourself. I'm your host 4 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,159 Jeff Grubb and with me is Mike Manatti. Could you tell how close I 5 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,840 was to say my name was Mike Manatti that time? I did not tell 6 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,479 that the real close, really really close. Mike. How's it go? 7 00:00:50,759 --> 00:00:53,520 Wait? Today's episode a podcast about a podcast. All right, Mike, 8 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,560 how are you doing? Ah? Yeah, I'm doing great. Yeah. 9 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,159 We got a long weekend coming up here very soon. Yeah, I know 10 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,799 I'm going to be spending it. I could Megan man three Robot Masters shirt 11 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:11,400 that I'm very excited about. Uh yeah, everything's Everything's great, nothing's wrong. 12 00:01:11,799 --> 00:01:15,519 I'm just going pretty good. Tell you what that? Hey, you 13 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,319 never have to think for yourself. If you've been listening to our podcast and 14 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:21,319 like Games Mornings for the last two weeks, you basically already know everything that 15 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,680 they said in that Xbox thing where it was like all of their thinking, 16 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:26,239 all their reasoning, like we went over it back and forth, and it's 17 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:29,319 all the stuff they've been saying for years. But boy, did they just 18 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,680 lay it out there like, yeah, hey, console isn't growing, and 19 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,079 we would either charge you more money for everything or find other ways to do 20 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,599 it. And that explains all the things that we're doing. It's just the 21 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,280 conversation we've been having here for a long time. So yeah, we'll get 22 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,879 into all of that here pretty soon. But yeah, Mike, I'm also 23 00:01:46,879 --> 00:01:49,359 looking forward to the long weekend, still playing a lot of games. I 24 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:56,239 am like making the conscious choice here to take Billatro and put it over there, 25 00:01:56,519 --> 00:02:00,280 so then I don't only play that because that could be a real problem. 26 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,840 Yeah, I get start Pilotro. I did one run like mytor w 27 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,079 be sweet and I get it very fun. It's just it's it makes a 28 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,879 lot of sense. It's very fun, and they they don't beat around the 29 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,400 bush. The tutorial itself itself is not even very long. It's like they 30 00:02:13,439 --> 00:02:15,560 do it at a certain point like no, you get it, just go 31 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,560 it's basically the game. It seems like right, yeah, exactly, and 32 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,639 then you just go. It's great. I like games with our Conic cards. 33 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,360 I'm learning playing that and then playing Persona like in real life. I 34 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,000 hate that shit because people seem to actually believe it and I get mad. 35 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:31,960 But in video games where it's just all flavor, yeah that's fun, that's 36 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,400 good stuff. Yeah. Yeah, So playing a lot of games this weekend. 37 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,879 Got to play some review games for sure, but try to get a 38 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:43,840 little bit further and like a dragon as well. I'm also I was like 39 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,080 thinking about the Switch a lot because I did put Bilatra on there, and 40 00:02:47,439 --> 00:02:51,199 like, man, i think I'm ready to like go back and play some 41 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,199 of these older Switch games I played before and like have a good time with 42 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,680 the system because I feel like I'm wrapping up, wrapping up our time with 43 00:02:57,719 --> 00:03:00,240 it, and I'm like, I'm ready to be nostalgic about it. It's 44 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:05,080 where that we're there. It's very fir that we're there, I guess. 45 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:07,479 I mean, the Switch has been around so long now, it's been such 46 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:15,599 a dominant force in the way I've been playing video games. I'm close there, 47 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,000 Jeff. I think I'm gonna feel more like that once we really do 48 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,719 hear about the Switch to and I really do feel like, yeah, there's 49 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:25,039 not gonna be any more like Giant games like Princess Peach might be the last 50 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:30,360 really big original game. Maybe there'll be these remasters and ports, and I'm 51 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,879 looking forward to some of those a lot, like thousand year Door. But 52 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,879 yeah, I get what you're saying. I did also, I was like 53 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:44,639 going through some old like contacts and sources where I was like, where where 54 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,039 did I get? Like why was I so kind of like Metroid? Probably 55 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:53,000 this year? And it was someone miching like, well, because I found 56 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:55,960 it, and it was a source that actually got a lot of other stuff, 57 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,639 right, And we'll still see about this that and this stuff could have 58 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:04,039 changed. Obviously it's Nintendo, we'll talk about that too. I guess they 59 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:08,560 mentioned, hey that they're trying to get something put together for a big Metroid 60 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,800 marketing campaign that probably would drop around May of twenty twenty four, and I'm 61 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,719 like, oh, okay, well there you go. So hey, that's 62 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:17,600 probably not going to pan out necessarily because this is this new This little tidbit 63 00:04:17,639 --> 00:04:21,319 I got is very old now and things have probably changed since then. But 64 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:25,720 bank that seems yes, Yeah, then well thanks to I mean, we 65 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:30,120 do know that that nothing's ever changed inside of video game companies. You know 66 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,720 what, thanks for joining us. You can get more from Mike and me 67 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,439 at our discord at game mess dot net. Game Mess dot net. Give 68 00:04:36,519 --> 00:04:40,360 us a good rating wherever you are listening and hit that like button on YouTube. 69 00:04:40,399 --> 00:04:43,240 It helps people find the show. If you want to ask a question, 70 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,319 you can drop a chat super chat during the show. 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Is that up? Actually? I think that's up now? Right, 81 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:25,839 that's up already? And that's another one next week? Maybe, yes, 82 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,160 we'll have another one. We'll probably we should be able to make that 83 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,279 happens about an exploding cigar. Everybody yeah, you actually don't want to miss 84 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,560 it. It's a good time. And of course all of our shows add 85 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:39,879 free so Patreon dot com, slash game mess or you know, membership here 86 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:43,959 on YouTube. That's good too. All right, Mike, big news this 87 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:46,759 week, big news today. Are you ready to get into it. Let's 88 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,079 do it. Let's actually start with the with the direct stuff. Yeah, 89 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:56,519 just real quick, because it's like, uh, I heard earlier this week, 90 00:05:56,639 --> 00:06:00,160 like I said on nintend Dogs, that it would maybe get moved around. 91 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:02,680 It was something they were at least discussing. I don't know what they 92 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,120 ever ended up deciding. It seems like maybe they moved around, but who 93 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,920 knows. I never knew the date of when this direct would happen. I 94 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,319 only ever heard last month it would happen sometime in the middle of February. 95 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,240 It feels like, hey, we're dead in the middle of February. Maybe 96 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,079 it should happen right now. It didn't, And then that kind of lines 97 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,480 up with them maybe wanting to get out of the way this Xbox thing for 98 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:27,199 whatever reason. I don't know, but it's Nintendo. They change things all 99 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:30,199 the time. We'll see, I mean, listen, I continue to hear 100 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,160 like oh there's stuff. There's a direct and there's stuff in it, and 101 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,720 like some of those games are probably at least one of those Microsoft games maybe, 102 00:06:38,759 --> 00:06:42,639 I mean, we'll see, yeah, come on, Like, of 103 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:46,240 course it's not guaranteed, not guarante at least one or two of those Microsoft 104 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:47,879 games are here. That's why they didn't name them, right, right, 105 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,800 because it's going to get announced in something very soon, right because the Tendo 106 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:56,639 gets to announce it. Like that's why that deal has already. I don't 107 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,079 mean to immediately go through the Xboxing instead, but I was surprised, a 108 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,439 surprise or upset, like why won't you just say what the games are like? 109 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:08,199 Because they probably can't. Yeah, I mean even in place, even 110 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,439 if they could. It's like this is like this podcast got moved up, 111 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,399 like this was a conversation they were planning to have later. They're they're having 112 00:07:15,439 --> 00:07:18,920 it now. So it's like they're they're trying to explain something to you and 113 00:07:18,959 --> 00:07:23,000 that's not too like, oh, we're going to disrupt everything. They basically 114 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,399 did tell us what those games were as well. So the Xbox podcast came 115 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:30,959 out the Business Update. It was twenty three ish minutes. The first half 116 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:33,399 was about Hey, all these people are freaking out about this thing. We 117 00:07:33,399 --> 00:07:39,160 should address which games are going over to other other platforms. They said there's 118 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:41,759 gonna be four games and that's it. I don't know if they use the 119 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:44,920 term for it for now, but they basically made it sound like this is 120 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 this is what four games for now. There's four games are definitely happening, 121 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,000 yes, right, they but they didn't say what those games were, as 122 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:55,040 Mike said, but they were like two like older games and two live service 123 00:07:55,199 --> 00:08:00,279 games basically and everything. They're like two like more like social games, two 124 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:03,639 games that are like smaller things that have kind of an a potential audience on 125 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,879 Xbox. Both of them are all like over a year old. I mean, 126 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:11,319 yeah, you don't have to be nostradamis here. It's it's Hi Fi 127 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:15,959 Rush Pediment, Grounded and See of Thieves, right, yep, it's it's 128 00:08:15,959 --> 00:08:18,800 those four games. Yeah, absolutely, and uh, I mean this lines 129 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:20,279 up with a lot of stuff we had been We had been hearing from a 130 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,680 variety of sources. I had heard about C of Thieves and here it is. 131 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:30,560 And then they clarified that Starfield would not be coming an Indiana, Jones 132 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,600 would not be coming. Here's what they said. What they said was Starfield, 133 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,279 India Jones. Aren't those one of those four games? Good point, 134 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,200 you're right, you're right, And it's like those things could also change in 135 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,960 the future. They did also say like everything is on the table, like 136 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,159 they're willing to consider everything. It's kind of how they basically said it. 137 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,279 And then but that doesn't mean that everything is coming. At the same time, 138 00:08:54,279 --> 00:09:00,200 they're like, not everything is going to go to these other platforms. 139 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:03,120 What we have here is kind of like a pretty similar situation to what we 140 00:09:03,159 --> 00:09:07,279 had before. A lot of games from Microsoft are on Xbox for quite some 141 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,879 time, and every once in a while one of those games sneaks over to 142 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:11,879 the other platforms. Now, the reason behind all this, they said that 143 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:15,440 as well, we've talked about at the top of the show. They are 144 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,600 looking to grow their audience because they don't want to just go and like, 145 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,120 hey, we have this smaller audience in Xbox, let's just find new ways 146 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:26,159 to charge them money. Instead, let's try to grow our audience in different 147 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:31,080 ways. And I think they're also like working backward from the world has changed. 148 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,360 They said this in this podcast as well, where hey, there was 149 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:37,960 a time where the biggest fish in the pond was the console itself. It 150 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,399 was everything serves the console because the console is bigger than any one game. 151 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,480 And now they've had for years now like Roadblocks on there, which has a 152 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:50,399 business of its own that is bigger than the Xbox, and they have Minecraft, 153 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:54,559 which is bigger than all the consoles put together. And they see Call 154 00:09:54,559 --> 00:10:00,120 of Duty now in Fortnite, these things that are platforms unto themselves. And 155 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:05,159 at a certain point it becomes a little absurd to continue pretending that the console 156 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,559 is the biggest thing and not these big games. And so I think that 157 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:13,039 like that has changed their thinking and we're seeing all these that manifest in these 158 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,080 new strategies a little bit. But at the end of the day, this 159 00:10:16,159 --> 00:10:20,240 isn't like some huge shift. It's a continue evolution of what they've been doing 160 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:24,200 for a long time. It is. It's a big step forward, though, 161 00:10:24,279 --> 00:10:26,960 right, you know, I don't want it to be like, oh, 162 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,519 they did this before, we had you know what they've been saying for 163 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,919 years though, Yeah, and you know those were a while ago. It's 164 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:35,159 been all the time, and these are going to be like four games, 165 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,759 uh, you know, and these games aren't interesting. It was. It 166 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,679 was very interesting how they're kind of walking a tightrope here of being like, 167 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,120 hey, like these four games are old, there's like really good reasons why 168 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,480 we're doing this, and there are, and yet there'll still be like, 169 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:54,320 by the way, like ten years from now, what do you guys think 170 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,919 is going to happen? Yeah? Right, yeah, I mean, are 171 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:03,600 still preparing us some day for something like years of war or hail or you 172 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,559 know, everything being everywhere. Yeah, I mean definitely, they see the 173 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,159 write in on the wall. They know things are going to continue to change 174 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,879 drastically, and they're yeah, they're they're the tipping, the dipping, the 175 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:18,159 toe in because they know the way that the wind is blowing and they've been 176 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,360 moving in this direction for a while. This is just the latest manifestation of 177 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:24,080 that, I think. And they said they're going to be said, they're 178 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,720 going to see how these games do. You see how these games do? 179 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,559 And I bet I bet that leads them to doing it with more games. 180 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,600 Big surprise. Some other things, I mean, they said, like no 181 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,080 fundamental change to exclusivity. I think that means for the most part, most 182 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,600 of these games going forward are going to be exclusive to Xbox for some time, 183 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,519 maybe not three years, but at least for some time. And like, 184 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,679 if you want to play an Xbox game as quickly as possible, you're 185 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,200 either going to get it on PC or Xbox. Uh. They mentioned that 186 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,519 there's thirty four million game passes scribers. That does include the game pass core, 187 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,480 which previously was Xbox Live Gold. Now is that number bad or good 188 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,840 or because I pretty see it's pretty low. I think if it's pretty low, 189 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,440 it includes the people who were on Xbox Live Gold before. What why 190 00:12:15,039 --> 00:12:18,519 like, why aren't more people getting game pass I guess I mean there's only 191 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,720 some like like based on the take two numbers about how many you know consoles 192 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:28,240 around the world from the Xbox Series X and S and PlayStation five generation. 193 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,320 Uh, there's about twenty five to twenty seven million excuse me, Xbox Series 194 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,159 x's and S is in the world. People could still use a game pass 195 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,159 on PC and Xbox one. How many people are still playing on Xbox One 196 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:41,720 keeping a subscription? Probably not that many. And then on PC it's like 197 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,159 people are just on Steam. So yeah, it's growing double digit. They 198 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,080 said there's double digit growth in cloud and on PC, but it's a much 199 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:52,600 smaller pool, so it's easier to get that double digit growth. I just 200 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:56,039 think it comes down to the people that would take advantage of it on console 201 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:00,960 have it, and that is a limited number. And they were pretty clear 202 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,960 like don't expect game Pass to be on these other platforms like PlayStation and yeah, 203 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,799 they said, that's not going to happen. Yeah, that's not going 204 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:09,320 to happen. Like the fact they kind of left out it up as a 205 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,879 reason for why, like Xbox consoles are still special in have inherent value. 206 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:18,440 Yep. Absolutely, Yeah, So that number is not it doesn't seem great, 207 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:22,840 but I think it's I think it speaks to again what they're saying, 208 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,519 like these things have reached their limit in many ways. And then then they 209 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,919 talked about overall the industry, like the industry is not growing in terms of 210 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,799 the console gaming and and the the industry that they put games out into, 211 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,919 Uh, it is stagnant year over year, at least this year. And 212 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:43,279 he mentioned that a MD said that they expect to sell fewer AMD powered consoles 213 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,759 this fiscal year, and that's his way of saying, this is happening over 214 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,120 on PlayStation as well. That's that's that's how he couched that language. But 215 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:56,360 that's what exactly what he's trying to say. The PlayStation confirmed as much exactly, 216 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,240 So it's like he like he's like trying to say, hey, these 217 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,120 are I have diagnosed the problem in the industry that everyone knows is happening. 218 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,200 How do of course this is going to affect how we treat like our are 219 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,960 like how we're going to put out games, and so here we are. 220 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:13,320 I do think it probably gets still a point where, yeah, when they're 221 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,080 when they're like ready to bring back Gears of War, why wouldn't they just 222 00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:20,559 go all out put a Gears and War collection on on the switch to PlayStation 223 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:24,200 and then the new Gears is exclusive to Xbox for some years. Yeah, 224 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,279 you're right exactly. I don't think we're going to see like Gear six lunch 225 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:33,679 Day and Date on PlayStation five along with the Xbox version. I mean you 226 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:37,919 still see here how tepid they are about that perception. They even kind of 227 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,879 said, like, hey, these games that come to like multiplatforms, I've 228 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:45,200 hit the exact wording. There's almost like those aren't really Xbox game. Yeah 229 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,440 they should, like we don't associate them with like being Xbox I mean, 230 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:52,440 I mean, listen, I think See If Thieves is like I associate See 231 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,399 if These with Xbox. That's like the kind of thing where I know a 232 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:56,399 lot of people just play a lot of that and they're like all in on 233 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,799 their Xbox and a lot of Xbox dudes are like, yeah, I play 234 00:14:58,799 --> 00:15:01,679 see these constantly. So I think I went's a little weird. Is that 235 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:05,799 their way of saying it's not Halo Gears of War fortsa yet it is. 236 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,960 They're definitely saying that, Yes. I think it's also saying like, hey, 237 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,159 there are some big games that we are investing in going forward that we 238 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,559 are putting a lot of time into. That's Starfield and Indiana Jones things like 239 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:22,639 that. But I mean, I get them trying to create that delineation, 240 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:26,639 but it's not, Yeah, it's weird. It was a strange thing to 241 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,440 say. Now they are doing this podcast to reassure people. One of the 242 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:33,679 things you could do to reassure people is to confirm that you are in the 243 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,120 hardware business to stay, and they did as much. They said, hey, 244 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:41,440 not only are we going to have something to announce this holiday in terms 245 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,960 of something new when it comes to hardware, but we are going to do 246 00:15:45,759 --> 00:15:48,879 another piece of hardware that will be the biggest technological leap you've ever seen. 247 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,519 Next jend announcement. Let's go yes, Next GRA announcement, which is I 248 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:58,639 mean, listen, maybe they'll surprise me, but gotta be a lie, 249 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,399 Like what are you talking about? Guys? The Diminians already here in such 250 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,200 a hard way, like what are we talking? I mean, listen, 251 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:11,360 it might have so many like bells and whistles in terms of features that make 252 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,559 games like just really perform better than they ever have, and that's what they're 253 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,840 talking about. Like I could see like, oh, we have our own 254 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:22,080 DLSS, we have our own frame generation and all this stuff is going to 255 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,279 be in there and we can't wait to show it to you. In machine 256 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,320 learning, the games are still going to look pretty much the same. Yeah, 257 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,519 I mean, look like I have a feeling no matter what, I'm 258 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:33,159 still going to be choosing somehow between a thirty FPS and a sixty FS. 259 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,960 Yeah, Like I mean, look, it's like the marketing speak. I 260 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:44,679 get it, but look like I was there gandall. I remember when we 261 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,159 went from like Super Nintendo to PlayStation and stuff like that. Like no, 262 00:16:49,159 --> 00:16:52,399 there's just actually, no way unless you start giving me a Halo deck. 263 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:57,639 There's actually no way you could do a jump that is like that. Again, 264 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,399 what are we talking about. Yeah, at the very least, what 265 00:17:02,559 --> 00:17:06,720 they are likely saying that is true is that they are going to try to 266 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:11,319 have the most powerful console again. Now that's something that they've done recently with 267 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:17,160 the Xbox One X and that that was more powerful and that was pretty good. 268 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:18,920 They tried to do that with the Xbox Series X and that has just 269 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:23,279 not really worked out because people are treating the PS five as the lead platform. 270 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,160 The PS five is really good hardware, and so a lot of people 271 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,440 are finding ways to take advantage of that. So when you go to the 272 00:17:29,519 --> 00:17:32,960 Digital Foundry breakdown, yeah, sometimes the Xbox game runs better, but a 273 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:33,839 lot of the time, a lot of times it's just like, oh, 274 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,359 it's yeah, the PS five is just handling this better. Seems like it 275 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,799 got more love from the devs. Do you think, yeah, Microsoft, 276 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,640 this baby saying hey, we you know, here's where our numbers are. 277 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:48,720 But the people like Xbox, they really like Xbox. Maybe we get away. 278 00:17:48,079 --> 00:17:52,359 Maybe we're the ones you make like the eight hundred dollars console and its 279 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,880 whole thing is that, Yeah, it's more expensive than the PlayStation, but 280 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,200 it is just better. We'll go back to like old three d oh times. 281 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,079 Right, you're gonna make the watern three d oh in a way. 282 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,599 I mean, that's like not such a bad idea. Why not? Honestly, 283 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:11,400 I don't want for having that having like I mean, look, if 284 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,240 you don't want to if you want to say I don't want to spend that 285 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,720 much on a game console, and then just use what PC you have right 286 00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:19,559 now to play Halo. I know you don't all have Gumme Piece. Well, 287 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:22,960 I mean yeah, but it's like then stream it from the cloud. 288 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,319 I mean, listen, I think that Xbox would probably still have like they 289 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,160 have the handheld as the other option. Yeah, I feel like that, 290 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,720 Yeah, if you had the handhold and then you had like yeah, like 291 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:37,319 hey, and then here's our eight hundred nine hundred dollars game console. I 292 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:44,240 mean because because like what can they do that PlayStation cannot. PlayStation probably doesn't 293 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:45,960 want to have the dual skew. They want to have like the one that 294 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,480 has the disk driving the one that doesn't, and then but they want to 295 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:52,440 have the PS five is the PS five when they get to the PS six, 296 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:53,799 they're probably not going to want to have a PS six and then a 297 00:18:53,839 --> 00:18:57,920 PS six pro right on launch day. But what Microsoft could do that that 298 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:03,160 PlayStation can't is what you just said seven hundred eight hundred dollars, and it's 299 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:08,880 significantly more powerful because PlayStation needs to have one that is still mostly affordable to 300 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:14,160 people who are gonna buy it for FIFA and that is a broad worldwide audience 301 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,480 that they cannot forsake in any way, and Microsoft maybe could maybe already has. 302 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,960 That's something I actually I don't think. I don't think that's a bad 303 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,599 idea at all, because I think what we've been sitting here when we have 304 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,119 these conversations where like Microsoft should try to get away from the nose to nose 305 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,720 head to head competition with the PSA, Yeah, make another just whatever PlayStation 306 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:33,440 is doing. Again, they can't exactly they should make define should and it 307 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,599 seems like they don't want too. Seems like they're trying to get away from 308 00:19:36,599 --> 00:19:38,279 it. They're talking to Nvidia, they're talking to Intel, at least that's 309 00:19:38,319 --> 00:19:42,519 the rumors, and I believe that we saw that they were at least looking 310 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:48,960 at arm based architecture when the FTC leaks happened, So we know they're considering 311 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,240 a lot of different options. Yeah, if they go hard on that stuff, 312 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:56,680 and really with something like ARM, they could like, Okay, the 313 00:19:56,519 --> 00:20:00,680 four hundred dollars five hundred dollars version of this is a handheld that is basically 314 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,799 an Xbox Series S still in some ways, and it's gonna run all your 315 00:20:03,839 --> 00:20:07,400 Live service games just fine, and you could dock it and all this stuff. 316 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,319 Maybe that maybe that's one version and then the other version is a big 317 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,039 expensive one. I kind of hope that's what they do. Yeah, we'll 318 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:17,160 see, And I mean, hey, look yeah, maybe so more consoles 319 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,279 than you even do now, because yeah, it's gonna be a lotre expensive, 320 00:20:21,079 --> 00:20:23,079 but I don't know, you differentiate yourself. But hey, look this 321 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,119 is a fantasy booking at the moment. The point is that, sure they've 322 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:32,480 got you something different. They can't just make the Xbox equivalent of the PlayStation 323 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,640 six the next go around. That clearly just didn't work there. Even when 324 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,799 they didn't have the Series S to sort differentiate a bit wasn't really enough. 325 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,720 You had game Pass to differentiate a bit wasn't really enough. There's got to 326 00:20:42,759 --> 00:20:47,400 be something a bit bolder in terms of making it clear that there is a 327 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:51,839 difference between Xbox and places. And again like there is a little bit of 328 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,359 that. I'm hearing two stories there because you know, they are talking about 329 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,359 hardware still and how it is important, but then it is also still this 330 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,880 message that we're gonna meet you where you are. You know, it doesn't 331 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,559 matter what platform and things like that. To the truth is they're they're going 332 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,880 to do both. I don't think, like you know, the idea is 333 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,799 not to replace one with the other. I think they know that they can 334 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,759 do more and keep a lot of their business intact. And but it is 335 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,519 it does require them, like you said earlier, to walk a fine line 336 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,680 to avoid feeling like people are going to lose access to something that is something 337 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,200 they spent some time talking about as well, where it's like we understand people 338 00:21:27,279 --> 00:21:30,839 invested in their in their games on our platform and we've put a lot of 339 00:21:32,079 --> 00:21:34,960 time into a crossby so that you have your game and if like you don't 340 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,559 have an Xbox anymore, well you can just get on PC now and stuff 341 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:41,240 like that. We support that, like that's what we want to keep happening 342 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,319 going forward, and we want to expand that and do that new ways. 343 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,559 So yeah, they're it seems like they just want to keep adding new things 344 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:53,920 to bring in more people. I do think that does diminish the immediate immediate 345 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:57,279 value of the console, of the hardware itself, But I don't think they're 346 00:21:57,279 --> 00:22:00,920 trying to diminish that to zero. They're just like trying to recognize that they're 347 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,079 are, that they need to do more, and so they need to be 348 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,960 in more places, and that inherently just lowers the value of the console a 349 00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:11,960 little bit. They also talked about, Hey, they did have some good 350 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,240 news. Diablo four is coming to game Pass on March twenty eighth. It's 351 00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:18,680 it is interesting that the first Activision Blizzard one is I think at the end 352 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,880 of last year, the Diabolo team was like, well, no, that's 353 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,039 not fucking going in game pass. You guys are crazy, right, I 354 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,680 forgot about it. That's the first one in game Pass, which I'm I'm 355 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,359 not surprised by at all. It's the one that made the most sense, 356 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:33,880 and I don't think many people are surprised by it. No. I mean, 357 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,799 come on, it's a game that's you know, it's on consoles, 358 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,279 is on Xbox, it's on PC. No, Like, I'm not am 359 00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:41,559 I gonna be able to play it on PC game Pass? I assume not? 360 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,839 Right, that's only on the console. That's something I'm a little curious 361 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:52,599 about. I don't know, Ken you can't install Diablo four via the Xbox 362 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,400 app, right, you gotta have No, that's probably right. It's probably 363 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,680 just console for us. It's just for the console, I imagine. I 364 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,599 don't know exactly how that worked. I mean, I guess they can just 365 00:23:00,839 --> 00:23:04,440 they can they can just tie both. Yeah, they could just have the 366 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:11,839 like the launcher your your Bottlenet account to your right, the way that it 367 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,319 works. Yeah, whatever. A lot of games launch. They already announced 368 00:23:15,319 --> 00:23:19,000 it for PC game Pass, so all right, they did like clarify it 369 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:23,759 won't be going to UH game pass core members and like people are like, 370 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,559 like I can scandalized by this. I'm like, guess those are the Xbox 371 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,839 Live Gold people. This is the way it's always been. What are you 372 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,079 talking about? Like there's no change there, but whatever, scorn people that 373 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,200 could potentially buy the sixty dollars horse armor or whatever. Huh. Yeah, 374 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:41,720 some weird monetization in that game for sure, and I think they'll be happy 375 00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:44,960 to welcome a lot and a lot of new people in there through game pass 376 00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:47,359 that you're right, can be monetized in other ways, and I bet a 377 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,720 lot of people actually do end up converting because a lot of people like the 378 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:55,079 Oblo And then was there Oh yes, They also mentioned that they have a 379 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,519 lot of games in the works. They Booty Matt Boody said there was like 380 00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:02,359 ten games this year. There's a bunch that they've already been announced. Maybe 381 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,039 there's a few more that they haven't like talked about explicitly, but he said 382 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,839 ten games. Not all of them are going to be like the biggest like 383 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,759 Triple A games. It's a scale of games, but ten games. And 384 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,599 then he said they're gonna have some new stuff to talk about at their showcase 385 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,640 in June, confirming that there will be another showcase in June around the time 386 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,880 when we used to get E three. So yeah, Hey, how'd you 387 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,480 feel about this being a podcast? I'm like, completely fine with it. 388 00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:26,400 I get it. A lot of people said it could be an Xbox wire 389 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,680 post. I agree with that, but I think it's fine as a podcast. 390 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,200 Look, I'm saying this is somebody who's doing a video podcast right now. 391 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:37,279 I think calling that a podcast first and foremost was a little strange. 392 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:41,680 I mean, you sul called it a presentation or something whatever, But whatever 393 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:45,839 it was, I thought it was pretty good. It was kind of shortened 394 00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:49,839 to the point even though it was mostly talking heads, it was interesting. 395 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,279 I think they handled it generally very well. The reactions for people I find 396 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,839 more interesting. Like I'm surprised by people like, oh, look, it's 397 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,839 everything's fine, it's not happening when they said, I mean it's happening, 398 00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:07,799 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there's a lot of I saw 399 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:11,680 a lot of YouTube videos where it's like the Lakers were wrong, So the 400 00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:14,359 fucking half the games that we talked about are in there. They confirmed her 401 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,559 coming. What are you talking about? I mean that's about Starfield, And 402 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,200 but you're right, the way that they talked to people are not recognizing what's 403 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,160 happening. I've seen a lot on both sides where it's like, hey, 404 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,279 this confirms my preconceived notions and I'm like, oh great, cool, so 405 00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:30,680 we're just gonna be back to all this being the same. There was a 406 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,079 little bit of like a rorshack tested there a lot of people saw from what 407 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,720 they wanted to see in Yes, I guess, and that's annoying, but 408 00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:41,079 I'll just ignore those people. That's fine, will be completely okay. Yeah, 409 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:45,759 I thought it was pretty well handled. I thought that they talked in 410 00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:48,200 a way that was honest, in a way that is refreshing, as they 411 00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:52,000 often do. And at the same time, it is kind of wearing a 412 00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:57,720 little bit fit. What's that like? Can you hear mercond? I was 413 00:25:57,759 --> 00:26:00,960 just yeah, you think we just lost you for a second in a hiccup 414 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,440 for a second. Sorry, there no no no worries, It's okay. 415 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:07,279 I was just saying, like, hey, I like the podcast. I 416 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,839 like the format. I like the way these people speak. I think Sarah 417 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,599 Bond, Matt Boody, Phil Spencer are pretty good when they when they talk 418 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,640 from like when they shoot from the hip a little bit. And obviously this 419 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,880 is not them just straight shooting from the hip. This is a very contained 420 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,640 presentation whatever. I like it. I think they do a pretty good job 421 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,880 of it. At the same time, it is wearing a little bit thin 422 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:30,640 that It's like Xbox makes a choice. A lot of people like what's going 423 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,720 on? This is confused and this is scary. And then we get like 424 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:37,880 another presentation or whatever from Phil Spencer coming out and answering things, and again 425 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,480 I think he's good at it. But boy, I think people would just 426 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:44,160 be happier if there were a lot of great games coming out and they could 427 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,759 just play those and not to think about this stuff. And it feels like 428 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:49,359 we keep happy to do this because that's not happening. So I'm just like 429 00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:53,240 a little bit worn down by this like repeated process over and over and over 430 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,880 again. Sure, it does seem like Xbox does have some some good games 431 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,400 coming on. I am excited, sure, Jones, I am excited for 432 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,039 about I mean, hey, like right now they might have more coming out, 433 00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:08,039 especially in the second half of the year than PlayStation who knows, But 434 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,920 you know, I think they're getting to a better part of that at least. 435 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,279 Right That was the play for the longest time, was just the drought 436 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,920 of games. They'd hurt them, right, it maybe hurt them irrecably, 437 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,960 irrecably, irrevocably. I knew I was missing a syllable in there. Man, 438 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,880 I'm surprised I said that right the first time. I was like, 439 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,279 I'm just trying to say this word and it's going to go bad and actually 440 00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:32,559 came out correct. You're a hero. Yeah, that's what I thank you. 441 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:33,279 I don't want to throw it around, but you're here for me. 442 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,160 I mean, I feel like there's more to talk about here, but I 443 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,759 mean we went over most of it, and then we got a lot of 444 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:44,400 super chats that are gonna want to talk about this. Maybe get starting to 445 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:51,559 those. They're releasing more games on other platformings platforms including Nintendo and PlayStation. 446 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,119 Not all of the games, and there's some that they're probably afraid to do 447 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:57,119 because they know how much people get set about. And I bet that was 448 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,240 the conversation with Starfield, there was. I mean, they put that game 449 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,960 up on a poll last year, right, it was the standard bear for 450 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:08,920 the Xbox brand. Next year, it might just be a bit too much 451 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,519 for them to put that on too much too soon? War probably similar. 452 00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:18,079 How much money you're really going to make putting putting a Starfield on PlayStation right 453 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,240 now? Right? Is it really? Yeah? I mean probably yeah? 454 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:26,440 Probably the brand a million, two million copies maybe, uh yeah, that's 455 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:29,839 not all the money in the world. But I think somebody is like, 456 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,759 what about Red Fall, And they're like no, we're not doing that. 457 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,200 I think they are well aware that they cannot do anything like that with Red 458 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,759 Fall until that is a game is in a place where people would be actually 459 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:44,400 happy to play. Never. So maybe never, maybe never, Jeff, 460 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,160 So many games have had redemption arcs. You think that's the one that cannot 461 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:56,480 Yes, okay, cool answer. Listen, I play Original find a Fantasy 462 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,680 fourteen. They can do, but I live in them. I yeah, 463 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,960 listen, I made that game. Look as iff xboxes can say, yeah, 464 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,119 we're gonna try again. We're gonna make Redfall again. See if we 465 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,640 could do it better this time. Maybe then I think, like just repeating 466 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,880 a little bit. I think the big takeaway is these are people that like 467 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:22,240 have the insights. They see how things are moving, and when they look 468 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,839 at it and they look around and they see that Roadblocks is like an order 469 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,440 of magnitude bigger than the Xbox console business, I think it's hard for them 470 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,720 to be like, of course, we have to be moving in a direction 471 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,720 where we're thinking about that. It was at one point the games serve the 472 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:42,640 console, and now it's clearly the console serve these games. So we have 473 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:47,039 to be in the business of creating those kinds of games, and that's what 474 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,720 they're doing now. That's that's what you know, acquiring King's about. That's 475 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:53,480 what acquiring Call of Duty is about. It's what acquiring Minecraft was about. 476 00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:56,480 Way back when they did that. It's been that's been ten years ago now 477 00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:00,720 almost maybe not maybe eight years was it twenty sixteen or twenty four teams a 478 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:04,640 long time ago, long time ago, and so it's like it's all been 479 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,680 kind of going in this direction, and they've seen this, and so it's 480 00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:11,920 kind of the toothpastes out of the tube. Consoles are in a place where 481 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,640 they are still super important. The people who play consoles spend a lot of 482 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,839 money on games, and they are not going to give that up. No 483 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,559 one's given that up. But even PlayStations look around being like, shit, 484 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,799 we need to make more money, and PlayStation sounds like part of what they're 485 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:27,400 deciding to do, and they've already done this a little bit with like raising 486 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,440 a lot of prices, is we need to make more money from the people 487 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,200 who are already here. We got to monetize them more, We got to 488 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,200 squeeze them for more value. Now and then it's like, well, and 489 00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:37,599 now we've got to maybe put these games out on PC a little bit faster, 490 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,720 get a little bit more aggressive. So they're also looking for ways to 491 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,920 grow because they see they're writing on the wault as well, and they are 492 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,200 the market leader, so of course Microsoft's doing this. This is just kind 493 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,599 of inevitable at some point. This does not go back to consoles are dead, 494 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,960 Like this is not that, it's just everything is evolving past to a 495 00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:00,559 past the point where it's like you can be a console company and that's all 496 00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:03,319 you need to be. It's like, no, these companies have grown to 497 00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:06,799 a point where they've tapped out that market. Seemingly they did a great job 498 00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:08,920 of rate reaching everybody who would possibly want a console, and every time like 499 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000 a new person enters the world that is like, I'm so into games, 500 00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:15,920 I will spend five hundred dollars on a system. Those people are coming right 501 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,119 in. They're choosing one of these. They're probably choosing PlayStation, but they're 502 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,079 choosing one of these, and they're going maybe they're choosing Nintendo whatever. But 503 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:25,000 that is not enough to make sense for the growth that these companies require to 504 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,400 service their investors. So yeah, things had to change. We are at 505 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,799 that point, right now and oh well, abe freaking out. So yeah, 506 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,720 I guess if your takeaway from this and everything that's been going on as 507 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:41,000 well, it's guess it's just business as usual maybe on some surface level, 508 00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:45,559 but now they're changing. Yeah, I mean, you know, twenty like 509 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,359 they said this in the spot, like twenty twenty three are so good and 510 00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:52,920 with games, and yet there wasn't much growth. So yeah, so it's 511 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,359 like you're like, that can happen and people aren't rushing to go buy consoles 512 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,400 and play games, and PlayStation misses their target, Like this is you know, 513 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,839 this is news what you talked about a little bit, Like PlayStation was 514 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,839 wanted to sell twenty five million. They're only as they are now lowering their 515 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,240 target to twenty one million PlayStation five sold, and they are going to probably 516 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,920 have a roughish time getting to that, despite all throughout twenty twenty three, 517 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,400 the PS five being aggressively on sale down to like three hundred and fifty dollars 518 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,160 at point for it one dollars, like all these amazing games. You could 519 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,240 play Residingval four, you could play boulders Gate three, right, they didn't 520 00:32:24,279 --> 00:32:28,359 have to like make a version of that from a box of scrats that they 521 00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:30,880 did on Xbox. That was alright. I was always on PlayStation and Alan 522 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,039 Wake and all these games that you know, oh wow, this is generational 523 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,359 games and targets are lowered. That's right. No, yeah, I mean 524 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,920 it's it's a sign that stagnation is here for consoles and that I mean, 525 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,319 there was probably another growth spurt in the future at some point, but these 526 00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:51,839 companies can't sit run and wait for it, and so they are in a 527 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,400 position where they have to find out what is next, and that's going to 528 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,880 be a messy process. We're seeing it with Xbox. It's been it's been 529 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,359 messy at the very least, it's been messy. PlayStation has a little bit 530 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,160 more leeway and that they are the market leader, but they all have a 531 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,039 little leslie way in that PlayStation is the successful business at Sony, and everything 532 00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:12,960 else is kind of on fire except for a few other small segments of their 533 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,559 business. So it's probably gonna get messy for PlayStation as well. Meanwhile, 534 00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:20,160 we're the best great games, Jeff. Yeah, we're the message boys. 535 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,319 We'll we'll pick it up for you everybody, and we'll let you know what's 536 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,039 going on. All right, Mike let's take a quick break, let's go 537 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,119 back, let's get to some of these super chats. A lot are coming 538 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,880 in. Thanks everybody who's watching, about nine hundred people watching live. We 539 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,839 always appreciate it. Literally nine to eleven people are watching. What I looked 540 00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:37,240 at it tragedy. All right, we'll get to it right after this, 541 00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:44,559 everybody, and we're back, and Mike, we got some super chats. 542 00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:45,880 What do you read those to me? Yes, z, thank you for 543 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:52,200 joining our Lincoln tier here. Thank you. Mess Broken ninety five says hello, 544 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:57,000 Jeff Garage Shrimp Grub and Mike NOOKI Party Minati. I'm looking for a 545 00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:00,839 gaming handheld and can't decide between the rog or the Olds, which would you 546 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,920 choose to buy? And why we haven't really hashed us out yet, Jeff. 547 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,880 But I think we're on opposite sides of the fence on this one. 548 00:34:07,159 --> 00:34:13,559 I think I'm nuanced on it. Like if you are, I'm a simp. 549 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,199 Oh, that's that's fair. Yes, if you are someone that wants 550 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,199 to play Xbox Game Pass games or you want to get some of those other 551 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,840 stores and you don't want to worry about like going into the desktop mode on 552 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,400 Steam Deck, which or dual booting windows and stuff like that, which you 553 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:31,880 almost certainly aren't. Then the ROG ally is a really good choice, and 554 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,599 you're going to be completely fine with that. I would I would still probably 555 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,440 pick that over like the Lenovo Legion Go and some of those other ones. 556 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:45,079 But the Steam Deck O led is the better handheld device. It really is 557 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,840 in terms of better much better battery life. That screen is gorgeous, the 558 00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:52,880 audio is actually better. And even though it's very good on the the ROG 559 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:59,880 and then the like just using the device as something you take with you, 560 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:01,639 when you can like log in everything and it just kind of works, it's 561 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:07,679 much better at that as well. But the rug ally plays games better once 562 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,239 you're playing the game, and it can play all those games I mentioned before 563 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,480 from like the Windows Game Store and stuff like that. But yeah, I 564 00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:15,960 mean, yeah, you're all in on the ROG, right, Yeah, 565 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,440 I mean, look, what I like about it is that I think it's 566 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,280 more comfortable than a steam Deck for me. I really like those analog sis. 567 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,159 I don't know why, but those always feel good to use. I 568 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,159 like the user interface. It makes it very easy to get into all these 569 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,000 different game launchers, whereas steam Deck you get to work a little bit to 570 00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:37,719 get into anything that isn't Steam. You know, obviously it's fine. The 571 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,280 downside is the battery life. I play like in the same place on my 572 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,159 bed, so that's not a giant problem for me. But if you like 573 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,559 want your gaming hand hoe to be really portable, then maybe you don't want 574 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:52,679 the rog's. Yeah, I think that's right, all right. Connor Wood 575 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:58,760 says, best milk flavor. I think the answer is cheese gross oh not 576 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,039 cheese flavored milk, like you know, just like cheese. Oh oh, 577 00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:07,159 Once milk becomes cheese, that's the best. Okay, Well then practically the 578 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,599 same thing you're like I thought, because I thought you would be saying cheese 579 00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:16,599 milk like, which is that's just that's just milk, okay. But you 580 00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:21,840 could definitely make milk more cheesy, definitely, and that would be discussed. 581 00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:25,480 Sleep it out for a while. But chocolate milk if you have to, 582 00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:29,119 like I have milk in the name, Yeah, chocolate milk's the best. 583 00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:34,519 Chris says, I think I'm more worried about PlayStation's future than xboxes. I 584 00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:36,840 mean, Jeff, look, I think you know how good a SoundBite is 585 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,239 because you keep saying it, and I don't blame you, but yeah, 586 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,599 PlayStation won the console war. It's so yes. It's like in my head, 587 00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:45,679 it's like, man, I need to just make that YouTube video because 588 00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:49,000 that's a good YouTube video headlines because it's true. Like, yeah, I 589 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:52,760 look at Xbox, they're gonna put start playing their games on PlayStation. How 590 00:36:52,920 --> 00:37:00,079 how is PlayStation celebrating? Oh no, yeah exactly, I like worried for 591 00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:04,519 PlayStations future and listen, these companies are going to figure a lot of stuff 592 00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,760 out and it's mostly going to be fine. I just for me, my 593 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,639 perspective is I like playing games, and I am finding a ton of places 594 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,599 to derive good games from. It's not usually these days PlayStation or Xbox. 595 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,239 It is occasionally them, and sometimes they're facilitating those games. I love Pentiment. 596 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,920 I'm really looking forward to Final Fantasy seven rebirth, But nine of my 597 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,679 gaming time is coming from places like Steam and in other places like that. 598 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,599 So hey, they'll figure stuff out, they'll be fine. They'll make a 599 00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:38,920 lot of money, and they'll make even more money in the future. Oh, 600 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,880 Greg says, knowing what you know now, rank Sonny, Microsoft and 601 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,719 Nintendo on how well you think they're twenty twenty four will be also yay alcohol 602 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,199 mic. Yes, I have a Golden Ale from Penguin City almost empty sadly. 603 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,239 I mean, Antendo's a bit of everything. Everybody's a question mark. 604 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,519 I guess right, if Nintendo has a switch to with a three D more 605 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,320 game and then they just win for me, of course, that's going to 606 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,760 matter more than anything. I think xboxes like Gnomes are very exciting. I'm 607 00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:15,159 very interested in that Indiana Jones game. I'm surprised how I got it when 608 00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:17,119 we saw a vout at that summer thing and a lot of people weren't hot 609 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:21,079 on it. I'm surprised that some people are still kind of like that with 610 00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:23,440 the last show because I thought the last showcase was good for a Vowed. 611 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,639 I think you, I think you're underestimating the number of people who are like, 612 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,480 they played Skyrim and they're like, I hate the way that this combat 613 00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:35,000 feels, and A Vowed looked enough like that to them, where it's like 614 00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,199 it's that weightless sort of swing of the thing and people to have a visceral 615 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,039 reaction against that. I don't mind that. I have a ton of fun 616 00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:43,440 with the combat in Skyrim, and I think about it looks like a lot 617 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,239 of fun. But a lot of people just kind of go oh, give 618 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:52,079 them the he bgbs when they see that Sony has actually some pretty fun stuff 619 00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:54,719 at like the beginning of this year, right, I was going to carry 620 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,719 them a long way years. Who is fantastic fom phasey seven Rebirth is coming 621 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,599 soon? You know. I think we're all kind of like, well, 622 00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:07,920 geez. Now they're saying they're not going to have any like franchise games coming 623 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,480 out this year, which by that I assume they mean like anything of like 624 00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:15,960 a God of War, Ghost Ghosts Spider Man, for example. Was that 625 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,800 their examples were Spider Man and God of War. They said, that's the 626 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,199 level of game, and we're not gonna happen. Ghost Shushima is on that 627 00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:23,280 level. And I thought we might have gotten that sequel this year. Now 628 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,639 we clearly aren't. So it is coming this year? I don't know, 629 00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:30,039 Yeah, I mean, like I like I said, I've heard Astro could 630 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:31,440 still make it this year. That'd be amazing. It's fucked up they don't 631 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,880 consider a franch like that. I mean, listen, it's sold better than 632 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,679 any of those other games, right, fifty four million copies let's go. 633 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,679 Yeah, well, we'll see. I think that hey, Hell Divers two 634 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:50,199 and Rebirth is gonna make this year the Vagina Hart game and the Vagina Heart 635 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,280 Game still a blade, right. I still am not sure why people are 636 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,239 like, so it's got to just be like, oh, the character sexy, 637 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,519 right, that's it. I mean, I know it looks kind of 638 00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:00,440 fun, but it just looks like maybe it's be kind of a bad Bonetta. 639 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,559 I don't know. I think it's gonna I mean, looks a lot 640 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,280 a generic Banetta. I don't know, we'll see. Yeah, I love 641 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:14,480 sure, I hope it's good. Whatever I think right now. A lot 642 00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,239 for Microsoft rides on how good Indiana Jones is going to be. If Indiana 643 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,719 Jones comes out and it's midh it's a bad year for Xbox again. So 644 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,920 I don't know if based on what we know now, I probably would still 645 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,960 probably put PlayStation slightly ahead of Xbox based on I think Rebirth is going to 646 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,880 be very good, and I love Hell Divers too, and if Astro comes 647 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,400 out, that'd be great. And then Mike's right. If Nintendo has a 648 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,360 three D Mario at launch for the switch to, that's an automatic one. 649 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:45,199 J Beem says, just now getting here playing catch up. Sorry if you 650 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,440 mentioned already, but is there a word on whether the new Astrobot game will 651 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,719 be a VR game? Crossing their fingers. What do you think, Jeff, 652 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,760 I don't know. I don't know. That's that's the that's the full 653 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,719 answer. My guess is like maybe the reason it's coming out this year is 654 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,119 because maybe it's launching with the PS five Pro and it's going to be like 655 00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:07,719 one of those introducing you to the console things again. I hope it's. 656 00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:10,039 I hope it's just a real big boy game. It should be. Jesus 657 00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:15,000 Christ. I don't I don't think it's going to be a VR thing though. 658 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,280 I don't think it's be a VR thing. No, I don't know, 659 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,079 no way, I don't think why. If they were going to do 660 00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:22,960 that, they should have launched it with the PSBR two. It's past that 661 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:25,519 point, so now I don't think. So. Yeah. Now, Brian 662 00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:30,519 Oh says, either you try banishers and then any word on a new soobh 663 00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:34,320 banishers. I have not tried them. We just talked about asob right, 664 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,239 So yeah, I've not tried banishers. I know. Jesse was in chat 665 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,559 earlier. I really liked it. A lot of people seem to really enjoy 666 00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:44,679 it. It's an action game from Don't Nod. I like Don't They've been 667 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,360 doing doing a lot of cool stuff. So brothers playing in is talking about 668 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,440 liking it. Yeah, people seem to like it once they start playing it. 669 00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:53,639 I'm gonna have a hard time making time for it right now, which 670 00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:59,039 is a shame. Well, David says out to Valentine's Day dinner. I 671 00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:01,719 told my fiance bottom Mega Man hubble buddle. She apparently has never heard a 672 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:08,559 Mega Man, looked up a picture and still no. All right, like 673 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:16,039 that Mega Man less or more famous than Cloud Strife. Here's the thing with 674 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:21,519 this, Uh, it's it's so weird because there's just like this really hard 675 00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:25,159 wall between like like an average gamer would recognize it and what they think and 676 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,159 then just like a Joe off the street doesn't really play video games and they're 677 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,800 going to know a few Mario characters and like Pikachu, and Pikachu's such a 678 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:40,159 transmedia character anyways, or less than Cloud Strife. I don't know. I 679 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,400 might be like, pardon me, is like, oh, I don't Mega 680 00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:45,519 Man so omni present to me? And he's not just from like that one 681 00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:50,440 game. But I'm clearly biased. I am fucking wearing a Mega Man shirt 682 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,679 right now. Fair enough, rogers Og says glad more games are going multi 683 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,679 platform. I wish Nintudo and Sony would also do this, are dumb and 684 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:07,599 only restrict others from enjoying games. I It's more nuanced than that, right, 685 00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:09,880 because wait, I'm trying to think of like the nice way to put 686 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,880 it, because like, like when I see people be like, it's good, 687 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,000 just everyone can play more games, and like, yeah, yes, 688 00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:21,239 of course, but there's there's more going on here than that, Okay. 689 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:27,039 Like Sony said this in their last Darning interport earlier this week, that it 690 00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:30,480 makes sense. It made sense for them to spend a lot of money on 691 00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:35,800 their big single player games because it boosts their hardware. And that's what those 692 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,880 games were about, That's what they said. So you get two hundred and 693 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:44,880 fifty million dollar budget games from Sony because of their hardware and because it's exclusive, 694 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,440 that's what makes it worth people getting and that's what boots that's the part 695 00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:52,800 that actually boosts the hardware. And I'm not I'm not someone who has much 696 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,159 of a much need for two hundred and fifty million dollar budgeted games. But 697 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,719 a lot of people do like them, and it's a lot of people who 698 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,920 are even like signific more casual and like they're like, hey man, I 699 00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:02,920 like a game that looks expensive. I come in. I play one or 700 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,679 two games a year, and this is awesome. So there's clearly some value. 701 00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:12,639 It creates some reason to make the kinds of games that we probably wouldn't 702 00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:17,079 necessarily get otherwise unless they are very particular kind of game that can support that 703 00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:22,599 budget through monetization and long term play, or they are just games that always 704 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,440 sell thirty million copies to fifty million copies, like a Grand Theft, Auto, 705 00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:29,440 a Red Dead, Redemption, or a Call of Duty, And those 706 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,480 are like very particular kinds of games that appeal to a very particular kind of 707 00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:34,880 person. And I think it's pretty different than what you get from like a 708 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,239 even a Spider Man or a Last of Us. So yeah, uh, 709 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,280 it's not that simple. But you're also not wrong. It's good that more 710 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,440 people can play these games. Cool like Miracle says, the only person that 711 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,599 can say video games is Brian fucking Cox. Yeah, man, he could 712 00:44:52,800 --> 00:45:00,320 fuck the fuck off apparently God who bought that. I'm sorry, can't real 713 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,519 Pugtato, it was Pato, right, thank you Potato. Poctato mentioned to 714 00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:08,000 me that the script only said fuck off, so that fuck the fuck off 715 00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:13,920 was a bonus fuck. You got a bonus ex Flying Cox. Yeah, 716 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,239 you got a free fuck yep, So what the hell you said, Devil 717 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:24,679 Jan Yeah, Jesse Norris says Blatro, Yeah, that's a very good point. 718 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,559 Adam Wilson, Lincoln member for sventy months, says, hey, hey, 719 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,480 hey, hey, Adam Wilson, thank you so much. Thanks, 720 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:36,039 thanks, Adam, appreciate it. Uh Anna four Pez, the first of 721 00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:38,119 check here, says the big deal about the power of the new Xbox is 722 00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:43,320 probably to assage all the complaints about Series S being a downer for Dev's ASO 723 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,679 a great job on Mortcomtalgi's Mike. I called March, but you might be 724 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,320 done in feb. That would shock me, but you might. Maybe we'll 725 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,239 see. We'll say you so much. Annie. You think this is Danny 726 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,159 for presides Anakin Skywalker for president. You think that's what happened? Okay, 727 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,880 Yeah, as a swage, I'm not sorry that one. I just wanted 728 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:06,840 to help you with a swage. What's this? I say, all right, 729 00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:10,519 I know that word that well, that one just really got me. 730 00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:14,159 Well. I was like rolling, like, oh no, I deserve that 731 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:21,119 one stage. That's funny. Okay, But uh, you think there's going 732 00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:23,880 to be another series S equivalents or you think there's the handheld will take. 733 00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:29,760 I think they're gonna get more creative than just two skews of the same box. 734 00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:35,199 So yeah, yes and no, there will be multiple ways to play 735 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,800 something called an Xbox that is still Xbox hardware. It probably won't look exactly 736 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:44,400 the same, NAS says. With High Fi Rush coming to Switch, do 737 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,280 you think this means a native Xbox one Slash play Station four version will be 738 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,280 announced o the four games rumored High five Rush is the only Series X Slash 739 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,559 S exclusive. Surely they want to tap into the massive PS four user base. 740 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,639 I mean, do you think it's worth I guess that's a good point. 741 00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:02,960 If you're making it for Switch and then you're gonna bring it to at 742 00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:07,000 least PlayStation, I don't know, maybe they're not gonna bother bring it to 743 00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:09,280 like the old Xbox. If you're gonna bring it to PlayStation, do you 744 00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:15,639 try to release it for PlayStation four also at that point, hmmm, yeah, 745 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,519 right, that's what I was like, Hmmm, yeah, I guess, 746 00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:22,119 I mean, yeah, why not? That last is at a point 747 00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:24,559 where we really think, like we're just done releasing game on a play station 748 00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:29,840 four, which there's still a lot of You're a guess right, you put 749 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,559 it on PS four because that like is like magnanimous in a way where it's 750 00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:37,280 like, hey, we're putting out PS four games even if Sony's done doing 751 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,960 it. I don't know, like it feels like, yeah, you like 752 00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:44,280 you like the big dick energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't 753 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,360 know. It feels like if the game can run up PS four, you 754 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,119 put it on PS four. I think that's probably gonna happen. Big Fresh 755 00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:53,280 thirty sevens is play Captain told you, Guber's I would like to have the 756 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:58,719 time. We'll see. Maybe that'll be part of my Switch Nostalgia tour. 757 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,920 There you go that. Burhand says, can you give your thoughts on why 758 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,840 there's so much backlash on something that should be celebrated or are people unhappy with 759 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,679 the proliferation of titles that have traditionally been locked to a specific platform. Yeah, 760 00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:12,679 we're talking about it a little bit. It's just it's just not really 761 00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:19,639 that like that simple to me, because you could maybe this does damage a 762 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,320 brand, and maybe it does get to a point where uh like, oh 763 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,280 that plan was kind of the sambitious plan because the other thing wasn't working. 764 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,920 And you know why is something a plan B, right, because it's not 765 00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:35,639 your first choice. Yeah, your first choice was to just make all your 766 00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:37,719 games for Xbox. Maybe that's not working, So now we're moving to the 767 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,599 plan B. Well, Plan A doesn't work, the Plan B also doesn't 768 00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:47,639 work. Well then what then? Then where are we? It's and you 769 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,239 know that that backlashes. You know it's coming from a particular kind of person 770 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,960 usually, and these are people that you know. When I called those guys 771 00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:58,719 toxic last week, it was more I was more saying like, they exist 772 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,480 in a part of Twitter that is often very toxic, and so like I 773 00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:05,719 kind of threw them all in with a bucket and clob real. I don't 774 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,480 think colobeal is toxic, but no, but it does. Yes, you 775 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,239 started that podcast by saying how you didn't get any sleep the day before, 776 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,400 poor Jeff. I know that part was not included in the clips, but 777 00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:20,000 whatever, Yes, and it was always like but like that part of Twitter 778 00:49:20,159 --> 00:49:22,199 is like they're always sniping at each other. They're everyone like when you want, 779 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,159 and like Clobrial does make those lists and then people take those lists and 780 00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:29,360 fight a fight with it. And that's not clobe Real's about, but that 781 00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:34,599 that stuff is like they're spending their free time in engaged in these fights. 782 00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,719 A lot of these people who are who do these list wars, and when 783 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,519 they see this stuff, it feels like, oh, I not only is 784 00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:44,559 all the money I've spent invested in this, uh kind of for no good 785 00:49:44,639 --> 00:49:45,679 reason, because you know I could have got all this stuff. It's going 786 00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:49,960 to come to PlayStation five. However, their viewing that really it's about I've 787 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,119 built this identity to protect myself from fomo and now that is being underminded, 788 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,960 and that is you know, that's getting to people's identities, and that is 789 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:04,480 really a settling to some people. Uriel del Gao says, do you think 790 00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:07,639 High Fi Rush Too will be a bigger game? Sixty dollars question Mark, 791 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,440 All right, here's my first question. Is there going to be a High 792 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:15,480 Fi Rush too? Uh? Yeah, I think so. High Fi Rush 793 00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:19,320 too? Like they like that studio a lot, And I think part of 794 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,400 this is, Hey, you guys like making High Fi Rush, We want 795 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,119 to enable you to do that again. Let's make it make sense. Let's 796 00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:27,239 get it out everywhere. You guys want to put it out everywhere. Okay, 797 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,119 great, let's keep investing in this and keep it going. Uh. 798 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,719 I hope it's sixty dollars. I look, I like, again, I 799 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,239 hate to be it. They should charge more for something. Thirty dollars seemed 800 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,840 really low for five hovers, at least forty. We're inventing like a price 801 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,599 range for Agado. What game comes out and costs thirty dollars either twenty or 802 00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:52,079 forty usually? So yeah, I hope they find some Look, you could 803 00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,519 just release the game the same scope of High Fi Rush and stay it's at 804 00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:58,920 sixty dollars. Came to me and I'll believe you just pretend like it's a 805 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,599 bigger deal. I hope they find a way to justify to the people who 806 00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:07,719 are going to be sensitive about that kind of thing. Agreed, Benji Bop 807 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,159 says, do we think the next gen Leap is moving to arm I mean, 808 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,920 yeah, that's part of it. That that alone isn't going to get 809 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,920 you to the biggest console leap ever, right, not alone. I mean 810 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,840 it would have to be like, let's you could do some really really really 811 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,960 powerful stuff with ARM and you know with any of these chips you could do 812 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,960 that stuff. But yeah, ARM, I think affords you the ability to 813 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:38,800 do something that is very powerful, relatively affordable, relatively efficient, and then 814 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,320 can scale down in such a way that a mobile device can work in a 815 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,519 way that's just very obvious. Now do they go that route? There's no 816 00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:52,280 guarantee. I mean he name dropped am D during this thing, and now 817 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,039 he was saying AMD's like they're worried about their sales, so that's not necessarily 818 00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:59,519 like we're all aboard on the AMD boat. But he is, you know, 819 00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:01,920 still talking about AMD like a partner and stuff like that. So they 820 00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:07,239 probably at the end of the day still go with AMD, and AMD is 821 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,719 getting very good at efficiency. But it's just ARM probably is the future still 822 00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:15,920 for a lot of these consoles. It's just not the immediate future. Soul 823 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:22,239 scream says, Is Sony really the market leader over nan Tendo? You real 824 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,280 quick? Yeah? Just a Stephen s says, Risk five. Yeah, 825 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,760 what do we say ARMED? That's shorthand for it could be risk five as 826 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,000 well. What was that question again, Mike? Sorry, Yeah, is 827 00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,280 Sony really the market leader over Nintendo? You're talking about stuff? Yeah, 828 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,559 I mean, you know, it means how you count them and all that 829 00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:39,679 stuff. Really what I say there, what I mean more like Colombo in 830 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:45,920 your Life by the way, graduation. But what I mean is Xbox and 831 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,239 PlayStation are going head to head, so one one beating the other. There 832 00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:53,360 is actually something Nintendo being like, yeah, we owned the handheld space, 833 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,239 and we turned our home console into our handheld and now we're continuing to own 834 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,960 the handheld space. They by not competing necessarily head to head with those other 835 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,400 companies, They're like going to go do their own thing. They are clearly 836 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:10,239 still competition. They clearly have a gen say quad that these other companies wish 837 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,239 they had in terms of selling games and selling hardware and appealing to families. 838 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,880 And if I had to choose any of these companies to just like, hey, 839 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,199 your genie forces you to become a video game company and you have to 840 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,119 live the rest of your life as one of these companies, I would choose 841 00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:25,280 Nintendo because I think they have the most of this stuff. Figured out. 842 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,320 So if you're asking for my opinion, I think Nintendo's the leader. But 843 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,639 when we're talking about Microsoft and Sony always talking about something very specific. Evan 844 00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:37,800 Olmsted says, new Xbox hardware this year or next hand held. I know 845 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,159 they said they're going to talk about hardware late this year, Jeff, I 846 00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:44,840 don't think they're releasing something this year. I don't think they're releasing it, 847 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,559 but they said they would talk about it this holiday, and I guess we 848 00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:54,920 didn't mention like what we necessarily thought that would be most likely is some sort 849 00:53:55,039 --> 00:54:00,280 of revision, not a pro but a revision that we did. We did 850 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,039 see one in that FTC leak. Now that there's a lot of reasons to 851 00:54:02,039 --> 00:54:06,239 believe that maybe they're not going full in on what that leak was, which 852 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,280 is that cylinder and all that stuff, But maybe they have something different. 853 00:54:09,519 --> 00:54:14,960 And I suppose what they could do is, here is an Xbox series X 854 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,440 that has a smaller process chip, so it's more efficient, and because of 855 00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:23,599 that, we're able to fit like a couple of other like extra modules on 856 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:29,719 the processor that can do better you know, machine learning, visual improvements and 857 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:36,519 frame generation and now all of these games are running at four K sixty however 858 00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:37,960 they want to get to that or whatever what they want to aim for. 859 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,239 That's a possibility. So it's like, in fact, it actually kind of 860 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,039 is a pro But it's the same hardware and it's the same all this stuff 861 00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:46,519 and all the games are exactly the same and you don't have to do much 862 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:52,800 on the development side. Maybe that's a possibility, but I also think there's 863 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,199 a possibility that it's the handheld and they could start talking about that this holiday. 864 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,679 We'll see and ten. Derek says, in the last ten years, 865 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,239 third party game has won the Game of the Year awards seven out of ten. 866 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:07,199 Shows. Why do people act like first party games are all that matter? 867 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,559 I don't know, you're right, I mean, let's say, I 868 00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:13,760 guess I kind of. I mean, they just thought, yeah, they're 869 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,039 exciting, and they justify the money that we spent on these machines. Those 870 00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:20,039 are the things that make the difference. When you are deciding to spend a 871 00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:22,599 lot of money on something, you want to feel like there is a very 872 00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:25,119 good reason that you did that, and so you kind of put those things 873 00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:30,039 up on a pedestal, and it is they feel more prestigious for that reason 874 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:35,920 sometimes. But yeah, third party games are where most of the actions at 875 00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:42,960 Burrito says here here is my weekly Mortal Kombat Mythologies hot take. If it 876 00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:45,280 wasn't for the god awful platforming, it would have been a cult favorite. 877 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:51,119 It's FMV scenees rule and cheers the mic for being persistent shoot winner about a 878 00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:54,760 genuinely tough game. Yeah, the fighting's not great either. There is a 879 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,599 lot that like I do actually kind of like about Mortal covet Mythology. Yeah 880 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:06,000 sure, uh yeah, like there could have been a called favorite game in 881 00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:08,840 there. Absolutely it kind of is this call game anyways, and a lot 882 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,719 of it isn't the baggage of it being terrible, which is a shame. 883 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,119 But yeah, I know what you mean, Burrito. Those FMB scenes are 884 00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:20,760 fantastic. They are so good, so much fun there. I mean that 885 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,519 dejected sub zero is gonna live in my head for the rest of my life. 886 00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:28,480 I can't believe it. It's just so it's so exactly Charlie Brown that 887 00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:30,800 I couldn't believe it. That had to be like the sixth take, And 888 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,039 at first you're like, all right, now go downstairs, sad, like 889 00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:35,159 we said sad. He's like, I'm wearing a fucking mask. What do 890 00:56:35,199 --> 00:56:37,800 you want look sad? So you like angrily, didn't Charlie Brown thing? 891 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:42,159 Don't you effect? Mike? I think I think you're one hundred percent right 892 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,519 that scene. The acting, that scene reads like I am going to overact 893 00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:50,280 because I'm pissed at these stupid fucking directors asking me to do the stupid shit. 894 00:56:50,519 --> 00:56:52,760 So I'm gonna do a cartoon version of being sad. And then they 895 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,119 were like, well now we have to use that. These people who know 896 00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,760 nothing about actually we were just like I read an emotion than that. That's 897 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:07,840 a good uh. PRA seven x thirteen says Jeff Big d Oc, Daddy 898 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,039 min Naughty and Mike and D's nuts grub, long time listener, first time 899 00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:15,119 chatter. Did I do this right? Just wanted to finally share my appreciation 900 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,079 and love for all the hard work you to Thank you, PRA, really 901 00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:20,840 appreciate it, Thank you, Pra really yep, I appreciate as well. 902 00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:25,079 Michil Larry says, crawling across the floor past all those we lost in the 903 00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:30,599 console wars, like saving Private Ryan's intro this week, But what does this 904 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,880 Xbox podcast bean for Tommy Tella Rico. Tommy's got to be back. He's 905 00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:38,599 He's back in the game. Everybody, it's it's it's his time to shine. 906 00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:44,199 Before was this before we would left shown the uh A Miko announced some 907 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,320 news today. Then we talked about that before. What it was the name 908 00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:51,519 of their mascot? No, I didn't read the full arcle, but apparently, 909 00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:55,079 yeah, they named their mascot. Did they say the name? I 910 00:57:55,159 --> 00:58:00,760 didn't read the fucking article headline. I'm like, yeah, that's right, 911 00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:06,400 that's incredible. So yeah, everything's turning up Tommy Jeff. I noticed some 912 00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:12,079 familiar spelling and punctuation in these next few from the same fucking from somebody called 913 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,039 Leaky Hum says, Uh, I don't care what you say. Xbox is 914 00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:22,159 dead? Next is Starfield Indie? Next one? So many suckers? Uh 915 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:27,400 falling for Phil talk? I hate Phil last moving to PC. I hope 916 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,000 Phil loses his job. Con Man, Well, thanks for the money. 917 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:40,000 Here's Shagarumamoto's all right, Shakey says I'm very happy to introduce her new list. 918 00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:47,559 Nintendo employee Tim Nintendo. I would not abandon our gabers like anti gaber 919 00:58:47,639 --> 00:58:51,840 trader Phil I remember last week what I didn't know who Tim Dog was? 920 00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:53,760 I too remember, and now you do know, and I'm sure you uh 921 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:59,239 don't regret that. Yeah, yeah, something like that. I don't know 922 00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:01,239 what to say, because don't us spot another like thousand weeks and like to 923 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:07,440 your Twitter spaces something, Jacob Bench, This am I the only one that's 924 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:12,199 annoyed that Sony and Microsoft are talking about what's next when it's only been three 925 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,960 years. Yeah, both of them are talking up. It's been a bit 926 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,239 more than three years. Both of them are talking about kind of next consoles 927 00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:22,440 already. What's weird to me, Jeff, is I remember when five years 928 00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:24,800 was the standard, and now I'm like, how cold? How was that 929 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:30,360 ever possibly the right? How were we so ready to move on? I 930 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,440 guess mostly for me it was because it was my parents' money, not that 931 00:59:32,519 --> 00:59:36,079 they ever got me a console on launch day, except for when they got 932 00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:39,679 me the in sixty four on lunch day. You know, no doctors over 933 00:59:39,719 --> 00:59:45,480 here. I did JO just fine. I was I'm not like I was 934 00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:51,679 impoverished or something. Yeah, it's it is a lot of people are going 935 00:59:51,719 --> 00:59:52,639 to agree with this, right, A lot of people are like looking around 936 00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:54,519 being like, why are you talking about what's next? Now? I don't 937 00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:59,280 think they would have been like we like this week, would have said, 938 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,679 hey, we have a more powerful console than ever coming. Uh. If 939 01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:07,840 they weren't forced to talk about hardware in some way this week, I rememb 940 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,360 maybe they were gonna talk about this podcast always. I just don't think so. 941 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,719 So Yeah, if they're talking about what's next, that's still probably not 942 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,440 you know, it's several years away, at least two more years away, 943 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:21,719 but probably closer to like three. Uh ol grug says, I'm going to 944 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,679 ask the most important question I've ever asked you, guys. I'm going to 945 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:29,519 sheets. What should I get to eat? You're going to sheets and you 946 01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:34,519 want to get something? Okay, the Buffalo Chicken flat pizza is pretty decent. 947 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,440 It's not like it's like it's called a sheets of pizza and a pizza. 948 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:45,199 Some shings that's their wings. They like to add zss yes or or 949 01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:49,119 they say just the beginning of a lot of stuff like schmagels and stuff. 950 01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:52,639 Yeah that get that. That's pretty good. Or two plain hot dogs. 951 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,880 He's like, he's like getting the meatball sub there the back and cheese isn't 952 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,079 bad. Either there's their sub sandwiches are pretty good. The Italian sandwich is 953 01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:01,840 really good. Drew Bud says, jets, can you please find out why 954 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,800 valvon't officially release the steam deck in Australia For me, been over two years 955 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,960 now. Ah, that's weird. I didn't realize they weren't chacing the streets 956 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,000 steam deck in Australia. Why not. It's got to be logistics. It's 957 01:01:13,039 --> 01:01:16,280 got to be logistics and tariffs, I would assume Stanna, Uh yeah, 958 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,760 I mean lots said, but it's very expensive to ship that stuff there. 959 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,239 They're not going to manufacture it there. That probably takes a while to set 960 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:27,519 up, and then selling that stuff there, they probably would have to set 961 01:01:27,559 --> 01:01:30,960 it to a price where it would not make sense to a lot of people. 962 01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:34,440 And then if they made it made sense, they wouldn't make any money 963 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,679 on it. Yeah, I'm sorry. That sucks. Australia deserves better. 964 01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:42,760 You heard it from jeff Us Soul Scream says, is the Xbox Puck dead? 965 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,519 Yes, well, it's on hold. At the very least they said 966 01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:50,440 this. They've confirmed this publicly, I believe. Yeah. Jordan Ando says, 967 01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:53,639 why have people only just realized that Xbox had this messaging for years and 968 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,960 actions pushing the same direction where people just ignoring them messaging before it has been 969 01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:02,519 consistent in my opinion, So I know Phil said similar things to you before, 970 01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:07,159 Jeff and other people. Look, this is definitely the most high profile 971 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,920 stage that they have delivered this message, and it's been more concrete than it 972 01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:16,719 ever has before. Right, Yeah, yes, this is a big, 973 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:22,400 bold step in the same direction. You're right, Jordan that this is kind 974 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,559 of very similar to what they've said before, and this is just the biggest 975 01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:30,800 step in that direction. But it also is hard for people to hear that 976 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,679 because, yeah, they say that stuff, but when they go to the 977 01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:37,199 store, it's an Xbox and these games are exclusive Xbox, and they keep 978 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,800 talking about all the great games that are coming to Xbox, and it's like 979 01:02:40,199 --> 01:02:43,639 the reality on the ground for many people. Even while he was saying all 980 01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:45,920 that stuff is business as usual, So I think people assumed, well, 981 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,400 it is this way and it will continue to be that way. And this 982 01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:53,960 is the console gaming landscape that we've lived in for our entire lives, where 983 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,559 it's like these companies do things this way, they do it one way. 984 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,159 So now that Microsoft has sort of like been taught talking about they are looking 985 01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:05,000 at those three billion gamers instead of just you know, the twenty five million 986 01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:07,400 that they have on Xbox. It's again, that's the next thing to say, 987 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,440 what does that really look like? Well, now we're starting to see 988 01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:15,519 a little glimpses of what that looks like. Random thought before we leave here 989 01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:19,440 for now, you know, we're rebellyaching about rare replay on how that should 990 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,480 come to switch. Somebody pointed out on Twitter for get who, so much 991 01:03:22,519 --> 01:03:28,719 of rare replay is just like Xbox backwards compatibility stuff with three sixty That's a 992 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,159 good point. That's a good kind of impossible. Yeah, we weren't really 993 01:03:31,199 --> 01:03:36,360 thinking about that where we Yeah, I guess so. I mean, yeah, 994 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,079 because you can't really do like a diet version of that that just has 995 01:03:38,159 --> 01:03:43,519 all the as Yeah, just give me all the yeah nes CONRA sixty four 996 01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:45,840 and N sixty four games. That's fine with me. But they probably not 997 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,679 couldn't do that, probably not going to do that. Put some of those 998 01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:52,599 onto an s O then yeah, yeah, I just do that one more 999 01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:54,000 from Alice Lee. Maybe I'm out of touch, but I don't see why 1000 01:03:54,119 --> 01:03:58,039 Xbox needs so many first party exclusives when they have game Pass, which is 1001 01:03:58,159 --> 01:04:00,760 enough value on its own. I mean, I I agree, Alice. 1002 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,559 And then you look at the numbers and game passes. It's doing fine, 1003 01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:09,239 it's not really growing like it should and it's probably hit a wall. And 1004 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,800 again it you know, just the way things are. It's it's not good 1005 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,920 enough that Hey, we used to not have a game pass and now we 1006 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,719 have game passes. Whatever revenue that is, it's great. No, there's 1007 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,360 got to be growth. It's not coming from game Pass and the growth is 1008 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,360 going to have to come from somewhere else. Yeah, thanks for the super 1009 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,960 chat, Alice. I uh, the Mike's Mike's right. And it is 1010 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,280 the kind of thing where we talked about this last week when we were like 1011 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:40,280 leading into this and we knew this was coming, that the the the game 1012 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:45,239 pass is attractive and it's the best deal in gaming. That's the kind of 1013 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,880 thing people have been saying for a very long time. And I think we're 1014 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,519 at a point where people are like, well, I got PlayStation Plus and 1015 01:04:49,599 --> 01:04:53,280 this is pretty good too. I don't need game Pass. Sure it's got 1016 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,400 some Xbox exclusives, but I'm fine missing out on most of those if those 1017 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:02,639 exclusives were significantly coming out more frequently, impossible to ignore. That is the 1018 01:05:02,719 --> 01:05:05,159 kind of thing where it's like now it's a different, differentiat in factor. 1019 01:05:05,239 --> 01:05:09,960 Again, that's tough to pull off though, and I think Microsoft recognizes that 1020 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,079 that's what the all these moves are about. But they it's going to get 1021 01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:16,280 an Xbox because the game pass, and if game passes, like, oh 1022 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,239 we just got a bunch of great third party games in here and all that 1023 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:23,280 stuff, it's probably not enough when PlayStation Plus is in a lot of ways, 1024 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:28,360 just as good Jordan Andandel has one just now said so effectively. People 1025 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,519 are just scared of change until it happens. Like people hated Day one games 1026 01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:36,840 to PC it first, now they want everyone to do it. Yeah yeah, 1027 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,960 yeah, yeah yeah. People. People are scared. Yeah, humans 1028 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,440 are framed of change. It's u We want the world to work the way 1029 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:46,920 we expect it to. Worry. Nothing makes a person happier than when they 1030 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,880 go into a situation and everything is as they expected it to be. Like 1031 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,920 if you go into something and people ask you to like, hey could do 1032 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,199 this thing at work, and if the thing is something that you know how 1033 01:05:57,239 --> 01:06:00,480 to do it like releases a huge amount of dopamine. People love it and 1034 01:06:00,519 --> 01:06:02,800 if it's something you don't recognize, it is very scary. It sets off 1035 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,800 a fight or flight, and I think that's what we're seeing is a lot 1036 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:10,159 of fight or flight. I mean, we literally saw people fighting and we 1037 01:06:10,239 --> 01:06:14,239 saw people flying away from Xbox. So yeah, that's what we have to 1038 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,119 deal with when these kinds of changes happen. All right, let's end this 1039 01:06:17,199 --> 01:06:21,079 segment now. If you guys want to send in more super chests, yah, 1040 01:06:21,199 --> 01:06:25,280 we will read them before the end of the show, we promise. 1041 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,280 Thank you all so much, but yeah, let's take a break. We'll 1042 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,840 be back, right, Jeff. That's right, Thanks Mike for reading those. 1043 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:35,320 Right back after this, and we're back and we got We're going to 1044 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,360 get into our best Games of twenty fifteen here in a second, and of 1045 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,440 course, if you're listening live and you want to have your say on that, 1046 01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:44,400 feel free to drop a super chat about what you think should be included 1047 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,440 in that. We'll also read the input from our podcast producers before that. 1048 01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:51,519 Though. My understanding is we have an update on our Fantasy critic. That 1049 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,079 is right, Jeff, So we haven't done one of these a little bit. 1050 01:06:56,159 --> 01:06:58,960 So people may not remember if you're a little newer to a channel, 1051 01:06:59,239 --> 01:07:02,360 But what we have going on here is that every year we run a fantasy 1052 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,880 critic league for our patrons, and most of that is head up by Benji 1053 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,559 Bop, so you know, big shouts to him for all that. If 1054 01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:13,719 you're unfamiliar with what it is, it's basically like fantasy football or other fantasy 1055 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,239 sports where you like create a team that you think will do well throughout the 1056 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,840 year and you want to beat everyone else with your team. So here what 1057 01:07:21,079 --> 01:07:27,199 the goal is is to have the best scoring games, review scores of the 1058 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,920 year. And so here we have a little update since we have done our 1059 01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:33,039 draft, our initial drafts, and a few major releases have come out, 1060 01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:39,639 so put together a little summary of the first month and a month ish of 1061 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,519 the play here. So going into it right away, Jeff, can I 1062 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,119 borrow your unique skill for a second year with the video that we have lined 1063 01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:51,079 up? Yeah? What do you need? Just talk about this a little 1064 01:07:51,079 --> 01:07:55,880 bit, you know, sure, absolutely means go a look here. Okay, 1065 01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:01,280 Yeah, so beevspackle off to an early tea so early. Actually, 1066 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,000 it's very hard for me to read these names because it's pretty tiny on my 1067 01:08:04,039 --> 01:08:08,920 screen, but Blackhart Vinyl makes a big leap head and then the whole pack 1068 01:08:09,079 --> 01:08:13,199 catches up. Everyone is moving ahead as like a dragon. Infinite wealth comes 1069 01:08:13,239 --> 01:08:17,000 out. Who's gonna get that advantage? Adam a Sleep, a Bell tread 1070 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:24,079 bel tread in the way good rest, Peka Blue goes way out I had 1071 01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:29,039 with Grand Blue Fantasy, and then Persona three reload helps Teshi nineteen ninety nine 1072 01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:32,399 catch up, and then that leaves Adam Asleep at Bell trad I'm way good 1073 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:39,479 reset a, Peka Blue, yellow Beard all tied with twenty points. Then 1074 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:45,520 Adam Asleep catches up with Hell Divers two moving out to the lead. That 1075 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:50,039 was a real yes, that's a very good pick, all right. Then 1076 01:08:50,119 --> 01:08:55,680 Banishers comes down. That moves low Rule legend way up into the leaders club. 1077 01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:59,319 Mario versus Donkey Kong also out that came out, That comes out like 1078 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,359 right now, tonight right Altrous is also in there, I believe, which 1079 01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,960 I know is getting some praise, and so that means our leaders as it 1080 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,399 stands right now is Adam Asleep at number one with thirty two point eight points, 1081 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,760 Nick Turbo number two with thirty one point six points and low Rule Legend 1082 01:09:14,079 --> 01:09:16,640 and third place with twenty four point six points. Oh, we'll get to 1083 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,880 that in just a second. Then you thank you both for commentating over that. 1084 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:26,520 So here we have some stats from BOP just as a summary of what's 1085 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,840 happened so far. Noble releases of the period include tech and eight Like a 1086 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,840 Dragon, If No Wealth, Persona three Reload, Hell Divers, two Banshers, 1087 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,680 Go, Some New Eiden, Grand Blue, Fantasy Relink, Go, 1088 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:41,119 Mecha Ball, Altrous, Turn Up Boy, Robs a Bank, and Mario 1089 01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:43,880 Versus Donkey Kong remake. So if you had any of those games in your 1090 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,720 fantasy league, Hey, you got some points on the board, and I 1091 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,800 think you said this, but the order you read that in is the order 1092 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,399 of the points that they scored, Yes, top to bottom, order of 1093 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,800 most points that this that's correct, Yeah, Mike, look at eighty two 1094 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,399 point it's a great score. Howuse held divers do only an eighty three ish 1095 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,079 average? Right now? People have bad taste, So that's a good score. 1096 01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:04,079 That's a good score. Over It's okay. It's the ones that are 1097 01:10:04,319 --> 01:10:09,159 the ones that are very high up here, with TECN eight at ninety Like 1098 01:10:09,239 --> 01:10:12,880 a Dragon at ninety or eighty nine point nine, and percent of three at 1099 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,479 eighty nine point two. Those are all incredible scores and important to note here 1100 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:21,199 though interesting here tecan is an even ninety, which means that nobody got the 1101 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:27,520 bonus points that happen when you score above ninety. So it's not eighty nine 1102 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,520 point ninety. You have to score above Okay, wow, yeah you have 1103 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,239 to you would have to be ninety one or more interesting or yeah, I 1104 01:10:34,279 --> 01:10:38,039 guess it would be okay, ninety point one, ninety point one, ok 1105 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,760 yeah, it was probably start doubling any remnants there. But yeah, So 1106 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,159 that means that the highest score that someone could gain from one game right now 1107 01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:48,680 is just the standard twenty points. Pretty good production values on this, Oh 1108 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,039 yeah, oh yeah. Bob puts a lot of work into this. Really 1109 01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:55,560 interest here. So here I'm going to go down the line. I'm just 1110 01:10:55,680 --> 01:11:00,239 going to show each each league that we have in the greater each conference in 1111 01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:03,439 the league. However, the breakdown is there. It's like tennis game match 1112 01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:08,359 that I can't remember which is which. But in the Game mess Critiques league, 1113 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,800 we have Adam Asleep in first place. As you saw at the end 1114 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,520 of leader board, there overall. Last of the critique dogs, we have 1115 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,880 Nick Turbo in first place. Over there, closest to the Messi critic, 1116 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:24,399 we have Low Rule Legend leading the pack. Then critic called Jeopardy. We 1117 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:30,800 have Beltred in first place and critique Bros. Teshie nineteen nine nine is taking 1118 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,119 a league. So if you want to go see where you are, maybe 1119 01:11:33,119 --> 01:11:35,880 a little more specifically, you can go check out the video version and I 1120 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:41,199 have pulled up all slides there. The top ten overall leaderboard is the thing 1121 01:11:41,279 --> 01:11:44,239 that I want to talk about more so here, which interestingly is a top 1122 01:11:44,359 --> 01:11:47,600 eleven because of some ties. Right now, Epic Open World, Michael Riley 1123 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,760 and b Corless nine are all tied for ninth place with nineteen point nine to 1124 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:56,319 one points. Then we have a four way tie for fifth place. Maybe 1125 01:11:56,319 --> 01:12:00,319 they just all have the same games there, Bell Tread, Yellow Beard three 1126 01:12:00,359 --> 01:12:03,359 to five, Peka Blue and I'm Way Goodoris all have twenty point oh four 1127 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:08,199 points. Then fourth place we have Teshi with the twenty two point nine. 1128 01:12:08,399 --> 01:12:12,079 Third place is Low Real Legend with the twenty four point sixty four. They 1129 01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:15,960 jump up there to Nick Turbo with his thirty one point six one and in 1130 01:12:15,039 --> 01:12:18,960 first place currently leading everybody. I'll be whoa we have at this point, 1131 01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:25,439 like eighty players or something. Adam Asleep is leading with thirty two point seventy 1132 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:30,279 nine points, so very very good stuff there, Uh, Mike, Yes, 1133 01:12:30,399 --> 01:12:33,399 about where's our names? Well, here's the captains leader board where aj 1134 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:39,359 Minatti, Benji Bop, Jeffrey Grubb, Mike Manatti, and myself Turbo Shot 1135 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,520 all have zero points. Because none of us have a nine games released yet, 1136 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,600 I'll show we all picked games that'll be later in the year, because 1137 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,039 I think a lot of us like got stuff like person and three and like 1138 01:12:49,119 --> 01:12:53,680 a dragon sniped out of it. We pick. Yeah, I got percent 1139 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,359 of three in the Giant Bomb League is happy for that, but I wasn't 1140 01:12:56,359 --> 01:12:59,800 able to get up and I really took Final Fantasy right away and then yeah, 1141 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,840 you'retty sure I paid first in my least I paid foul fasy And we'll 1142 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,880 get you know, reviews for that in a little bit here, but for 1143 01:13:05,039 --> 01:13:08,560 now, none of us have any points on the board. What was your 1144 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,319 first draft picking this, Lee, Jeff, Mine was the three D Mario 1145 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,039 game, so hopefully that comes out. Yeah, I hope that. I'm 1146 01:13:15,039 --> 01:13:16,319 looking at my list right now, give me a second. I thought you 1147 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,920 replicated your Giant Bomb one a little bit like I did, jeffere I thought 1148 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:25,439 you got like Mario and Freud. No, my mind is actually much different 1149 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,319 now that I thought so too. Yes, I went because there was not 1150 01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:30,159 much left when it got to me, and so I went with one that 1151 01:13:30,199 --> 01:13:32,720 I'm like, I'm pretty certain this is going to get around in eighty five 1152 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:38,000 to maybe even a ninety because it is a particular kind of game. Microsoft 1153 01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:42,960 Flight Simulator twenty four, that's right. So I'm like, yeah, that 1154 01:13:43,039 --> 01:13:45,359 could that could do well for me. I think she was added the thought 1155 01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:50,479 there from doing to that. Yes, that's the twenty twenty four that's going 1156 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,840 to be the I think that's the last game that has that. So yeah, 1157 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,560 twenty twenty four is a whole new game. Yeah, well that is 1158 01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,279 going to do it for the little quick update that we have here. And 1159 01:14:00,359 --> 01:14:02,840 I would just like to say everyone that if you are interested in this and 1160 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:08,680 every thing that's going on, the league is currently full. But I talked 1161 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,880 to Bob about this. We're gonna do something a little different this year since 1162 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,760 some people just petered out to the point of not playing last year. Inevitably 1163 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,520 that's gonna happen again. We're not gonna immediately kick people. But if we 1164 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:23,399 notice that people just you know, aren't really doing anything at all, or 1165 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,279 we are going to reach out to them and say, hey, do you 1166 01:14:25,399 --> 01:14:27,600 do you still want your spot? Do you still want to play? And 1167 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,359 if some people are like, you know what, actually, I'm good, 1168 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,119 we might be able to get more players in here. So if you're already 1169 01:14:31,159 --> 01:14:35,600 a patron or you know this, this interests you and you want we're interested 1170 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,960 in becoming a patron to join, keep an year out, will keep you 1171 01:14:40,039 --> 01:14:43,039 updated throughout the year. And if that does happen, hey, maybe come 1172 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,359 come play with us, Come join in the league and have a little fun 1173 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,199 predicting some scores here. I'm trying to see what's available in my league. 1174 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:55,640 Oh okay, conference, make some moves, all right? Anything else? 1175 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,399 Sean, Nope, that'll do it? All right? Awesome, let's uh, 1176 01:15:00,039 --> 01:15:01,079 let's you know what the real quick break while I get set up for 1177 01:15:01,119 --> 01:15:06,680 the next thing. We'll be right back after this twenty fifteen and we're back. 1178 01:15:08,039 --> 01:15:10,920 We're gonna talk about the best games in twenty fifteen. We've been doing 1179 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,239 this for a while now, we started what we started at nineteen five. 1180 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,600 Wow, okay, so we have done that would make thirty years of games? 1181 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:23,000 What is that? What they oh, twenty years? No, that'd 1182 01:15:23,039 --> 01:15:25,439 be twenty twenty years. Yes, there, that makes more sense, Jesus, 1183 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,239 good attempt at Matt, Yeah, math, Yeah, that's why the 1184 01:15:28,279 --> 01:15:30,880 games journalists everybody. Yeah, so twenty years of games. That means we've 1185 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,159 done this for twenty different weeks. We're kind of getting caught up now, 1186 01:15:34,199 --> 01:15:39,159 but twenty fifteen's where we're at. Mikey want to explain to people how we 1187 01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:43,319 do this. Yeah, we've been going through all the year's past and trying 1188 01:15:43,399 --> 01:15:47,279 to pick the five best games of that year. We are basing this off 1189 01:15:47,359 --> 01:15:50,800 of us release here, something that is mattering less and less as we get 1190 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:55,359 further along here, Jeff, which is kind of interesting about video games itself. 1191 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,560 But yeah, Jeff and I are going to figure this out. We're 1192 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,520 going to get some input from the community. Jeff, twenty fifteen messes me 1193 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,600 up, because this is the most like I look at these games. To 1194 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,760 me, these are all games that like, oh, those just came out, 1195 01:16:08,119 --> 01:16:11,800 and it's oh, that's almost ten years ago. Oh no, yes, 1196 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,239 that is at a certain point. I remember, this is like a 1197 01:16:15,279 --> 01:16:17,159 thing I always remember when we start talking about something like that. I talked 1198 01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:20,079 to one of the people that was like a main guy at Netflix early on. 1199 01:16:20,279 --> 01:16:23,800 I'm like, what about games? He's like what Once games are old, 1200 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,119 people stop caring about him and no one wants to run him anymore. 1201 01:16:26,359 --> 01:16:28,680 And then like a few years later, Witcher three came out, and I'm 1202 01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,880 like, that's done. That's so people just will play Witcher three forever. 1203 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,680 It seems like I guess, really, something hasn't come out where it's like, 1204 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,760 well, this is like some giant leap ahead of Witcher three. We 1205 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:42,079 finally got other RPGs that matter, like probably three, but it's different than 1206 01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:45,600 Witcher three. We didn't just get another like that. But obviously with five 1207 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,279 years of technology on its side, no, right, And so yeah, 1208 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:55,760 there are a lot of games this year that are just like these could release 1209 01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:01,520 today. And I mean god, I mean the has four generations started in 1210 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:06,840 twenty thirteen, right, So yes, so yeah, so yeah, we're 1211 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:12,239 like heavy into like just kind of what I do still consider modern day general 1212 01:17:12,399 --> 01:17:15,319 like current gen gaming, because it's been a very continual thing in going into 1213 01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:18,880 the PS five and Xbox Series X and S. All right, Mike, 1214 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,680 that said, a lot of really good games came out in twenty fifteen, 1215 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,840 some very good games. Where do you want to start, Well, you 1216 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,680 already said, how about What's your three of the woud Hunt? Yeah? 1217 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,079 Absolutely, that is a very big game. And I'm always really impressed when 1218 01:17:32,119 --> 01:17:38,039 like a game in a series comes out and yet totally feels like in excuse 1219 01:17:38,079 --> 01:17:41,560 me, entity on its own, like what's your one and two's existence? 1220 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,560 Does it even really matter? Because here's what's your three? It's going to 1221 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,600 be a much bigger deal and it is a ton of fun. It kind 1222 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:53,680 of is like the successor to skyrimen some ways of being this big, open 1223 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:58,840 RPG, and it's different because you are playing as this bespoke character. It's 1224 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,960 a much more crafted world. But that's sort of the charm of it is 1225 01:18:02,039 --> 01:18:06,960 just how well crafted it is, even like the smallest side quest have unique 1226 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:13,439 little storylines and dialogue options and all that good stuff. Yeah, you kind 1227 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:17,039 of said it right, like like Witcher three sort of is one of the 1228 01:18:17,079 --> 01:18:21,960 games that changed how games age. Really, Yes, I think there are 1229 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,039 different games that were on that spectrum before that. I mean, clearly Skyrim 1230 01:18:27,119 --> 01:18:30,479 is something that gets released NonStop, but something is even more timeless in terms 1231 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:35,439 of design and look and feel with the Witcher three than even Skyrim. So 1232 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:42,359 yeah, for me, it's got to be Super Mario Maker. That's an 1233 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:47,680 all time experience for me in terms of playing a video game where I love 1234 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:53,439 the tools. Obviously they're very cool, but really just getting into a back 1235 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,359 and forth with someone like where I was the player this other person I think 1236 01:18:57,399 --> 01:19:00,359 it was Danish or something. I don't honestly even know the person, but 1237 01:19:00,399 --> 01:19:03,199 we were doing doing the review process and I started playing some of their levels, 1238 01:19:03,239 --> 01:19:04,920 found them on Twitter and said, hey, your level, it's a 1239 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,039 real pain in the ass. He's like, oh yeah, well guess what, 1240 01:19:08,079 --> 01:19:10,279 I want to make a couple more for you. And we just kept 1241 01:19:10,319 --> 01:19:14,840 going back and forth and it was such a cool and unique thing and the 1242 01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,520 game is so good at enabling that. Like at the same time, I 1243 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,560 remember, like, you know, Dan making levels for Patrick Kleppik and how 1244 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,159 amazing that was to watch, and then well, you know, watching the 1245 01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:26,560 Giant Bomb guys make levels with the community and having so much fun with that. 1246 01:19:27,079 --> 01:19:30,560 Uh. Super Mario Maker is a very special game for me. Uh, 1247 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,520 and it's definitely one of the ones that I have like the most fondness 1248 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,319 for in terms of like that was a cool thing that happened and maybe could 1249 01:19:36,359 --> 01:19:40,079 never really happen for me again, but I'm so glad that that it did. 1250 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,399 I never really quite liked Mario Maker as much as you did Jet, 1251 01:19:43,399 --> 01:19:46,159 but I definitely like it. I definitely people it is. Yeah, it's 1252 01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:51,560 it's it's a ton of fun. It's really neat. Undertail actually came out 1253 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:56,479 this year, Jeff, Yeah, Undertails again. Like Undertail a lot. 1254 01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,199 I feel like it's the games that people are almost sort of sick of hearing 1255 01:19:59,239 --> 01:20:03,960 about, but it really is super impressive as not just one man but largely 1256 01:20:04,319 --> 01:20:09,760 a kind of a one man show, definitely one person's vision here speaking sort 1257 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:14,600 of subvert of of what an RPG means and having that earthbound influence for sure, 1258 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,039 but doing something really different with the combat, where the combat is kind 1259 01:20:17,079 --> 01:20:21,640 of like just the dodging Buwitz part of a schmup. And then there's all 1260 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:28,000 these different twists on that one of the all time great soundtracks. It's the 1261 01:20:28,079 --> 01:20:31,399 little moraleity system is fun. So I thing about Undertail that is really unforgettable 1262 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,039 the Sands boss fight is one of my favorite boss fights in any video game 1263 01:20:35,079 --> 01:20:41,479 ever. You have Meglavania playing during that Undertail really is pretty incredible. Yeah. 1264 01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,760 I enjoyed Undertail. I played it, beat it. I did not 1265 01:20:45,279 --> 01:20:49,720 get into the like, oh the Pacifist runs, and like when I was 1266 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:54,960 playing the story and kind of like getting into with the characters and understanding the 1267 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,359 metaphors of like, yeah, I get it, this character is like obsessed 1268 01:20:57,399 --> 01:20:59,560 in a weird way that is like, oh, clearly that's not how you're 1269 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,319 supposed to be. And I'm just not someone who really needed those lessons, 1270 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,439 so like it was like, yeah, of course this is right, Like 1271 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:13,079 this person having this hard time, you know, handling their fandom in a 1272 01:21:13,119 --> 01:21:15,680 way that is responsible, Like yeah, don't be that way. It was 1273 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,399 like, Okay, I was not blown away the way some people were, 1274 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:24,560 but I appreciate everything that is there. It is a fun game. It's 1275 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,920 a cool game of cool characters, and the soundtrack is just an all time 1276 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:35,359 great soundtrack. Absolutely. Rocket League one of the best sort of arcade sports 1277 01:21:35,399 --> 01:21:41,960 games ever made. It is a genre defining in terms of multiplayer online sports 1278 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,520 games, and it's the kind of thing that anyone can pick up and immediately 1279 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,319 understand what they need to do to be to participate in the fun, and 1280 01:21:48,399 --> 01:21:53,319 they will begin having that fun immediately. And at the same time, it 1281 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:58,479 has enough enough depth to support the incredible e sports scene that it does have, 1282 01:21:59,279 --> 01:22:03,359 one that is not like necessarily, oh this developer keeps it going because 1283 01:22:03,399 --> 01:22:05,760 it's part of their marketing campaign. It's like, no, there are people 1284 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:11,319 who are just desperately love this and it's a grassroots effort and Rocket League deserves 1285 01:22:11,359 --> 01:22:15,680 it deserves that stuff onto itself because it's earned that and it's just that good. 1286 01:22:15,239 --> 01:22:17,319 It's a kind of game that, Hey, if someone said, hey, 1287 01:22:17,359 --> 01:22:19,800 do you want to go play Rocket League right now? I would jump 1288 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:24,239 in immediately. I would love to play some Rocket League at any moment throughout 1289 01:22:24,279 --> 01:22:27,920 my life. And you know, there's kids coming into Rocky League every day 1290 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,800 still and they just like that becomes their game. Yeah. Man, nine 1291 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,000 years Rocket League has been going. That's impressive. Yes, and it's just 1292 01:22:33,119 --> 01:22:41,640 sort of maintained that strong support throughout that entire time. Orian the Blind Forest, 1293 01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,960 Jeff, you know that I absolutely love these Orias games. You know, 1294 01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:48,239 I know that the sequel is a lot of ways kind of a bigger, 1295 01:22:48,319 --> 01:22:51,680 better one here that there is still a ton about the first Ori that 1296 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:58,079 is incredible, some really amazing story beats. The game is still just absolutely 1297 01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:01,199 gorgeous. It's as good as a two D game ever looked. Another fantastic 1298 01:23:01,279 --> 01:23:08,319 soundtrack. I love those sort of epic sequence like escape moments. Those are 1299 01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,000 a ton of fun for me. Yeah, gosh, I love Orri. 1300 01:23:12,359 --> 01:23:15,279 Just just seeing like these pictures in this Wikipedia makes me happy. Yeah, 1301 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:19,640 it's it is a very good game. I think I lost a little bit 1302 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,520 of steam with it near the end, but not enough to like really hold 1303 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:28,680 it against it. I think the combat and OR two is such a revelation 1304 01:23:29,039 --> 01:23:31,479 that it is kind of it recontextualizedes like how I felt about or in the 1305 01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,319 Blaed Forest a little bit in this game. It is it's like you have 1306 01:23:34,399 --> 01:23:36,800 a homing attack. You just kind of mashed it and it hits the enemies 1307 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,720 that are near you. And I was fine with that at the time because 1308 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,800 this game was so much more about the platforming. But it is better within 1309 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,960 combat system in the sequel, and it's a good game. It really is 1310 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:54,039 a good game. Yep. I'm gonna do this one. First Fallout four 1311 01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,079 is a good video game. It's a really good video game. Now I 1312 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,359 understand some of them about it, and I understand the two schools have thought 1313 01:24:01,359 --> 01:24:05,119 about complaining about it, where some people do say it's more of the same 1314 01:24:05,319 --> 01:24:10,319 and more people are upset that had changed some of like the RPG elements. 1315 01:24:11,039 --> 01:24:15,199 For me, I was very happy to be there for the immersive sim side 1316 01:24:15,199 --> 01:24:17,640 of things, where it's like I'm just picking up stuff and I'm going to 1317 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,720 go build my base and I'm going to put that stuff in there, and 1318 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:26,319 I'm going to build a garage to house all my power armor, and then 1319 01:24:26,359 --> 01:24:29,319 I'm going to have a few relationships with a couple of cool people that are 1320 01:24:29,399 --> 01:24:32,039 cool characters that I really really like, and we're going to go on some 1321 01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:35,199 adventures and have a good time, and it's a cool setting, and I 1322 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,520 just there's a lot for me to like about Fallout four. I really really 1323 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,079 did enjoy it, and I knew at the time that I enjoyed it more 1324 01:24:42,119 --> 01:24:44,840 than most people. Coming out of the review period, I'm like, I 1325 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,319 really like that, and I heard a lot more reservations for more people, 1326 01:24:46,359 --> 01:24:49,439 and I'm like, no, I just straight up like it. So it's 1327 01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:53,000 one of the I'm like, I want to consider for this list. We'll 1328 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,279 see how much of a shot it has. All I want to say is 1329 01:24:56,279 --> 01:24:59,159 that I was looking at the Wikipedia page for twenty fifteen video games, and 1330 01:24:59,159 --> 01:25:00,439 you like, you see what game one like the big Game of the Year 1331 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:04,880 awards, which are three won the most, somehow falls for one the second 1332 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:10,319 most. I'm momentum right say, looking at these games that we've been talking, 1333 01:25:10,359 --> 01:25:13,399 it's a really good year. Yes, very good year. Yeah, 1334 01:25:13,399 --> 01:25:16,520 there's yeah, God, there are a couple that are like obviously considered more 1335 01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,520 highly than Fallout four at this point, and some that I think should have 1336 01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,840 been at the time for sure, like Bloodborn. Like Blood Born, Yes, 1337 01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,359 that's definitely the one I lied of Born came out in twenty fifteen. 1338 01:25:28,039 --> 01:25:30,680 Man, that game's almost ten years old. That's pretty nuts to me. 1339 01:25:30,399 --> 01:25:33,880 Yeah, Like, aside from the gaping like stuck at thirty fps, that's 1340 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:39,000 basically just how good games look in a lot of ways. I think it 1341 01:25:39,119 --> 01:25:43,560 was really neat to take that successful you know, Dark Souls formally had now 1342 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,279 and just give it a bit of an aesthetic shake up, although there's still 1343 01:25:45,279 --> 01:25:48,119 a lot of you know, stuff that's going to remind you of dark souls, 1344 01:25:48,159 --> 01:25:54,119 of all the monsters. But I really liked the Knight's victorian vibe of 1345 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:59,439 this game. Really well crafted world, all the branching paths were fun. 1346 01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,600 A lot of mentor roble bosses. This was the Soil I Owner Ring. 1347 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,720 This was the only one of them I had actually played through and beaten, 1348 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:10,640 but I did because it was a very good time. Uh. I love 1349 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,880 Metal Gear Solid five. That's a good video game. How do you feel 1350 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,760 about that one? I also really like Medical Gar Solid five. I I 1351 01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:24,119 am hard on Melgar Solid five just because its faults are even though they're all 1352 01:26:24,199 --> 01:26:28,600 small faults, they're so glaring that they bother me. And they probably because 1353 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,399 I know Metal Garsli five is so close to being one of the best games 1354 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:35,920 ever, and that then these faults, you know, like the story just 1355 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:41,039 kind of doesn't end because they didn't get to make the last chapter. You 1356 01:26:41,159 --> 01:26:44,680 get so much of the plot through these audio tapes, just kind of standing 1357 01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,520 your base and listen to. But gosh, that gameplay is incredible. That 1358 01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:53,439 game feels so good to play. Yeah. I think that's the thing that 1359 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:57,760 really just surprised me is like, oh my god, this is such a 1360 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,760 next gen idea of what metal gear could be when you're actually playing it and 1361 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:06,159 it's such a satisfying loop. Yeah. I like that game a lot, 1362 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:13,119 so definitely up for consideration. For me, is this the year that Banetta 1363 01:27:13,159 --> 01:27:15,880 two came out? Now? Was last year? Because last year? It 1364 01:27:16,039 --> 01:27:19,159 okay? Yeah right, okay, this the list last year? That's okay, 1365 01:27:19,199 --> 01:27:21,680 that's what I was trying to remember. All right, you have anything 1366 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,720 else? Or should we maybe start get to some of the podcast producers? 1367 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:30,239 One more please, honey pop? Well, I think we have our number 1368 01:27:30,279 --> 01:27:34,039 one? There you go, all right, let me get to this going, 1369 01:27:34,119 --> 01:27:41,000 let me go back here for is a girl? What? All right? 1370 01:27:43,039 --> 01:27:45,479 God? This is actually got It seems like it's gonna be a tough 1371 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:46,600 year to come down. It's gonna be a hard year. Yeah, yeah, 1372 01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:50,159 sure. I also don't necessarily think there's an obvious number one for me. 1373 01:27:50,399 --> 01:27:53,640 Maybe there is for you. I'm not sure. No, not really 1374 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,239 no, not really so okay, like I know, I think I know 1375 01:27:56,279 --> 01:27:58,920 what, like your personal number one would be? Maybe what my personal number? 1376 01:27:59,079 --> 01:28:01,760 Yeah right, yeah, like the obvious consensus number one is not occurring 1377 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,079 to me? All right, crange is mc basketball, says the Witcher three 1378 01:28:05,239 --> 01:28:12,479 wild Hunt, Queifer Sutherland says, crypt of the Necro Dancer. Mike, 1379 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,560 I knew they were going to start doing this where like, hey, they're 1380 01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,880 paying, they're going to make the names weirder and weirder, and that definitely 1381 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,760 started happening last week and it's like, all right, here we are Quefer 1382 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:30,279 Sutherland, crypt of the Necro Dancer. The mods can change your name, 1383 01:28:30,399 --> 01:28:31,920 right if it comes down to that, so I can, Yes, we 1384 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,840 can, we can do that. The line, hey, I appreciate your 1385 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:41,479 creativity, Queen for Soviet No, no, no, no, the line 1386 01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,760 is Quefer Sutherland. If you go on the other side of that line, 1387 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,399 you're wrong. That's good. Quefer Sutherland's fantastic. It's far and no further 1388 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:56,720 the line bet Yeah. Uh, mister Bowler says Splatoon, which, yeah, 1389 01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,720 that's a great game too. Part of me is like it just got 1390 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:04,079 supplanted by Splatoon two and then Splatoon three. Yeah, I mean there was 1391 01:29:04,119 --> 01:29:09,119 something fun about you know, Ninton doesn't make a lot of big swings of 1392 01:29:09,159 --> 01:29:13,319 a new franchise very often at all. So this was coming out and it 1393 01:29:13,399 --> 01:29:15,720 was on the WIU, and boy did the Wii you need a shot of 1394 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,319 something, so it was almost a shameless like the Wii, so just just 1395 01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:23,520 Splittoo being on the switch this more popular console did so much for that series. 1396 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,119 But Splatoon one did have a lot of that stuff right away, and 1397 01:29:26,199 --> 01:29:30,159 it also did have like a surprisingly good single player campaign, so there was 1398 01:29:30,199 --> 01:29:33,079 a lot to really like it Splatoon from the very beginning. Ninton Derek from 1399 01:29:33,199 --> 01:29:36,119 with the super Chat says, don't forget Arkham Knight. Very fun game. 1400 01:29:36,199 --> 01:29:39,920 Mike. How do you feel about Arkham Knight. I am also a bit 1401 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:43,720 of an Arkham Knight defender. I was always a little surprised, like I 1402 01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,159 get the complaints, Like you know, the Arkham Night character doesn't do a 1403 01:29:46,199 --> 01:29:49,479 whole ton for me. The story's not the greatest here. I never understood 1404 01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:54,000 the complaints with the batmobile. I always thought the batmobile was really fun in 1405 01:29:54,119 --> 01:29:57,279 this game. So I don't know, do you should put it on the 1406 01:29:57,319 --> 01:30:00,279 list? M M Now I don't have to put it on the list, 1407 01:30:00,399 --> 01:30:02,920 but uh man. That so that was uh nine years ago. Was Rock 1408 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,560 Saidy's last game until Suicide Squad came out this year, and now it's going 1409 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:09,960 to be another nine years until their next game. That's how this works now, 1410 01:30:10,039 --> 01:30:12,640 huh well, I mean it's gonna be longer because Suicide Squad is going 1411 01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:14,680 to just keep going as a live service game and they're gonna have to support 1412 01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,119 that. So that's how this works now. Oh my god, uh low 1413 01:30:17,279 --> 01:30:21,079 rule, says Ori in the Blind Forest, Kas Bookers has just caused three. 1414 01:30:21,359 --> 01:30:25,640 That's that's a fun one for sure. I still think of just cost 1415 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,760 two first. Uh don't like, which one do you go back to if 1416 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,079 you're just going to play one? Just cause now? Is for the one 1417 01:30:30,079 --> 01:30:32,520 where people are like, oh right, that's enough of that. I I 1418 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,560 mean, I could you go back to just cost two. I think that's 1419 01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:39,880 the one that has the most mod support I thought, but maybe not bopple 1420 01:30:40,119 --> 01:30:45,640 Bop to see bob fin Rebop, says mad Max. This is one I 1421 01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:47,520 kind of just want to play. I have never really. I think I 1422 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,159 played it a little bit, but I mad it. Actually three I thought 1423 01:30:50,199 --> 01:30:53,199 was kind of fun. Yeah, It's like that thing where it came to 1424 01:30:53,279 --> 01:30:56,520 everyone's like yeah, it's like all right, and then like six months later 1425 01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,399 people were like, no, you all slept on that. That was really 1426 01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:01,199 good. Yes, exactly. That was like an immediate sleeper hit. I 1427 01:31:01,279 --> 01:31:04,199 think I maybe I should make time to play that on the website. That'd 1428 01:31:04,199 --> 01:31:09,800 be fun. Uh. Mitsurugi says Heroes of the Storm. I did like 1429 01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,840 hero sor I like heroes storm boards, and I liked any of like the 1430 01:31:13,079 --> 01:31:17,640 other MOBAs just because he storm. Right, it's just not really getting new 1431 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:21,399 like characters right now. It's definitely not. Yeah, it did simplify it 1432 01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:26,119 a bit, and you know what, I think MOBAs could use a bit 1433 01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:29,880 simplification and a lot of times there's too much for me. All right. 1434 01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,399 Nick Turbo says until dawn, I'm gonna play this when it comes to PS 1435 01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,920 five and PC later this year, I've know I will maybe watch you play 1436 01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,640 it. How about that? Well, it's got that like, it's got 1437 01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:43,279 the like online like we can like vote on stuff mode. We could just 1438 01:31:43,279 --> 01:31:45,840 all play it together. Democracy. No, it's just like go with your 1439 01:31:46,319 --> 01:31:51,960 What the fuck did you just say? Oh? Spread democracy? And unless 1440 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,680 that's something that they added that I don't know about, that's uh, that's 1441 01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,960 not actually a thing. It's uh. I think it's something they've had in 1442 01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,760 their recent game. So I'm just assuming that they'll put it into this. 1443 01:32:01,319 --> 01:32:05,199 Oh okay, because the original, the original release did not have that. 1444 01:32:05,399 --> 01:32:09,560 But okay, that's that's more funny because then we just be a discord call 1445 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,680 with you and just yell at you, un tell you right that exactly that 1446 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,920 works as well. Okay, well we'll see show. Ji Koto says Bloodborne. 1447 01:32:16,359 --> 01:32:23,199 Uh. Tommy pencils as a picture of tumorro Hussin looking very stern with 1448 01:32:23,279 --> 01:32:26,600 a picture of Bloodborn. I said so many nice things about blood Boorn best 1449 01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:30,560 friend, Please don't be mad at me. Tears of the boomer Pal twenty 1450 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:35,079 seventy seven says Rocket League. Yep, very good choice. Lenny Cool, 1451 01:32:35,119 --> 01:32:39,439 Dick Denver. I think this is Xeno Blade Chronicles ex if I had to 1452 01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,560 guess it, sure is? Which is I never got to play it. 1453 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,960 I assume some kind of Remester remake is going to hit us eventually. Here 1454 01:32:47,279 --> 01:32:50,840 something but it looks like AI generated and not something. But it looks really 1455 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:56,159 cool, looks really cool. And the Flying Show it's cool. Uh. 1456 01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:01,000 Corley Pooh says middle Gear Solid five. The Phantom Pain uh s The WUSP, 1457 01:33:01,079 --> 01:33:04,199 says Curbal Space Program, which actually is one of the best games that 1458 01:33:04,359 --> 01:33:09,600 year. I love kerbl Space programs so much. Watch the Giant Bomb series. 1459 01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:14,279 They did a being in a project. This is just incredible. It's 1460 01:33:14,319 --> 01:33:16,319 good stuff. I suppose I never got more into Kerbel Space Program. I 1461 01:33:16,359 --> 01:33:19,279 started up a few times and like, okay, it's indeed, I never 1462 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:26,760 really got into it. I adore that game. RBR Timmins says or in 1463 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:31,199 the blind Forest input name here says Rocket League, joy Zee says Undertail, 1464 01:33:31,359 --> 01:33:34,880 Jmi H. Christmas Eve says Wolfenstein the Old Blood, which I think is 1465 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,720 the DLC. Right, I never actually played this. I should give that 1466 01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:43,239 a shot. Expand alone, maybe that the expand that's right, it's pretty 1467 01:33:43,239 --> 01:33:47,960 good. Should go to a shot. Adam Adam GC says Star Wars Battlefront, 1468 01:33:48,039 --> 01:33:50,279 the first one I did have. Hey, look, I mean, 1469 01:33:50,359 --> 01:33:54,239 like, I know that game shortcomings, but I had fun with Star Wars 1470 01:33:54,279 --> 01:33:58,640 Battlefront. I did. I did too. I downloaded Star Wars Battlefront two 1471 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:00,640 onto my rag alloy so I can play that every once in a while. 1472 01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,720 Which how funny would it be if we start if we put these newer bathroom 1473 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,520 games on the list, when we snubbed those old ones that all the kids, 1474 01:34:08,359 --> 01:34:12,000 that's perfectly the same thing to do. No, what he's going on? 1475 01:34:14,359 --> 01:34:21,039 You said, just draught there, Christian no, Dirk says Axiom Verge. 1476 01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:25,640 I think, yeah, look, Axie Bridge is fine, It's good. 1477 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,880 Uh, I think I think it is overrated. I think it's all 1478 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,920 righty. It didn't do a whole lot for you when I played through. 1479 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,920 It doesn't do a ton for me. Hammond of Texas says Fallout four Michael 1480 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:40,760 Riley's middle middle Gear Solid five. Fud Sack says Rocket League. Uh, 1481 01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,479 this is what AI thinks. Sexy Grub looks like I was gonna say, 1482 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,880 this looks like an AI version of Rocket League. It's a man wearing with 1483 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:53,720 with with a beard and long hair looking at the camera with Rocket League behind 1484 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,680 him. You look like you're in a commercial for soap or something. Yeah, 1485 01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:01,479 it definitely looks like a Nivia for men. Super Harmon says Monster Hunter 1486 01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,239 for Ultimate. I was wondering if anyone was gonna bring this up. That 1487 01:35:04,359 --> 01:35:10,720 was a good one, the best Monster Hunter after war Bench, JC says 1488 01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:15,119 Skylanders Superchargers is that Donkey Kong? Yeah, I remember you had Donkey Kong 1489 01:35:15,199 --> 01:35:18,920 and I don't remember this and Bowser were in the WEI version of this. 1490 01:35:19,039 --> 01:35:23,039 This was like had to be one of the last Skylanders. I can't remember 1491 01:35:23,119 --> 01:35:27,199 exactly, but we were get the tail end here. Uh. Edging to 1492 01:35:27,399 --> 01:35:31,399 Daisy says that names what was I saying? I think this is one of 1493 01:35:31,399 --> 01:35:34,560 the ones I was like, made me think of this. Uh that's also 1494 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:41,039 the line everybody edging todays, he says. Super Mario Maker Alex says, 1495 01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,359 this is this bloodborne that's gotta be blood borne. I think it's bloodborn. 1496 01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:48,399 Hostess StarCraft at two leaves see the Void, Legacy of the Void, Thank 1497 01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:53,640 you, Uh Korea freak Etien says, Ali Ali Too, Welcome to Olliwood. 1498 01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,920 I am pretty good. I can't get into the Ali Ali games. 1499 01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:00,199 I don't know what it is. It's my heart that is sad. I 1500 01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,920 have like no ill will towards them, and I'm glad other people like them. 1501 01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:09,319 But I tried for like about two and a half hours to dig Ali 1502 01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,720 Ali World when it came out, and I was just like, hmmm, 1503 01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,119 this doesn't feel right to me, And then I don't know. Two X 1504 01:36:16,279 --> 01:36:19,680 Champ beef Hammer says, why I'm gonna read the fucking thing on the screen? 1505 01:36:20,079 --> 01:36:27,319 Undertail? Undertail? Despite everything, Ye, it's still you. Uh. 1506 01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,880 Doom Middle Crossing says life is strange. You ever played any of the 1507 01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:34,760 Life Is Strange games. Oh, I guess maybe I'm super wrong, but 1508 01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,680 these are very much like those Telltale kind of games. It's just not my 1509 01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:42,880 thing. Oh right, I mean it's it's more than that. But so 1510 01:36:43,159 --> 01:36:45,960 they got a little bit more like involved, like gameplay wise, you you 1511 01:36:46,079 --> 01:36:50,399 do more, it's more interesting. It's just there. But I think I 1512 01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:54,399 would I think you would like Life is Strange more than I would ever recommend 1513 01:36:54,399 --> 01:36:59,079 you play a Telltale game. But it's also not my thing, so I'm 1514 01:36:59,079 --> 01:37:01,079 sure I wouldn't hate it. It's not high on my priority list of games 1515 01:37:01,119 --> 01:37:05,079 I haven't played that I want to get to always be clothing Slash Corny says, 1516 01:37:05,199 --> 01:37:09,760 middle Gear Solid five, The Phantom Pain. Uh there's the famous once 1517 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:14,159 you recognize you. Yeah, the ashamed of your words indeed secret idiot. 1518 01:37:14,279 --> 01:37:17,239 Uh huh, yes, that's that's good stuff. Uh. Sledge Ryan holds 1519 01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,600 Soma. I I think I played a little bit of Soma. Is that 1520 01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:26,000 the scary robot one? I can't say this. It rules pretty good. 1521 01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:33,600 Yeah, it's from the Amniesia people. Doctor Ryan U does a super Mario 1522 01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:38,239 maker. This is a really good stream. Uh. I was there when 1523 01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:41,319 they're like, yeah, put the Yeah, the Giant bomb stream where they 1524 01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,479 did the Police State out of coins, and I think about that all the 1525 01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,840 time. Police States just a very funny thing to say. Octo says, 1526 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:53,159 down well, man, that's good. Yes, that was a very good 1527 01:37:53,199 --> 01:37:56,239 game. Is that. I think that's on Steam right as well as Mobile 1528 01:37:57,039 --> 01:38:01,920 down Walls like a downward shooter where it's like you're always just shooting down and 1529 01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,439 they like that can like propel your character up, but you're also supposed to 1530 01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:08,119 like go down the well and see how far you can get. It's a 1531 01:38:08,119 --> 01:38:13,279 good game. Matt Rare Monkey says, Yaku's a five. I never played 1532 01:38:13,279 --> 01:38:17,359 it. Sorry. Isaac Clark says Timbo the Badass Elephant. It's just so 1533 01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,000 weird to me that the Pokemon people made a game with a swear in the 1534 01:38:20,079 --> 01:38:27,479 title. Yeah. Warden Cliff says box Boy like Timbo and box Bloyer, 1535 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:29,920 but both ones I hear people bring up all the time. I've never played 1536 01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,560 either one. It's just such a thing as a games of sex being too 1537 01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:38,479 minimalistic for me, but apparently for you. Box Boy is a grub game. 1538 01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:45,680 It's one million, a little but something. Then thoughts on a box, 1539 01:38:45,239 --> 01:38:48,239 I will I'll give it a shot. That sounds like fun. Uh, 1540 01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:53,039 screaming Madden says Madden sixteen. No, no, no, but but 1541 01:38:53,279 --> 01:38:59,279 but in front of God? What is this contradictions? Thank you? Yes, 1542 01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:04,760 another legendary chime bomb. Let's play feature media. Yes, I like 1543 01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:09,359 talking about this giant boss from before I was on it. Who cares? 1544 01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:15,439 It's you should stake it out? Uh? And in Goldie Okay, it's 1545 01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,119 NBA two K sixteen with the ghost game written on top of it. Now 1546 01:39:19,159 --> 01:39:24,039 I'm just confused, So I'm just gonna I've often confused. Yeah, the 1547 01:39:24,159 --> 01:39:29,000 NBA Terioki Blues Dying Light the first one I actually did was hoping someone would 1548 01:39:29,039 --> 01:39:30,720 bring this up. That's a really good game. I like it much more 1549 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:34,680 than I like Dying Light too. A big part of is it like nighttime? 1550 01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:40,439 Is like actually night It's like actually dark out, and I don't know. 1551 01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:44,039 It just was very scary and also had great parkourse stuff at the same 1552 01:39:44,119 --> 01:39:48,840 time. J D. Camp is this that's medal gear. That's why that's 1553 01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,800 right. I just saw the anime character and it threw me off. And 1554 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:58,159 then Slain says witch your three Willow Davis says Mebo Festival, Mebo Festival with 1555 01:39:58,239 --> 01:40:02,359 the smallest picture of the Amia Festival. I kind of ever see lazier Wolf, 1556 01:40:02,359 --> 01:40:08,680 says Richard. Three to take it? What five says Bloodborn. Mike 1557 01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:12,680 is wrong about blood Born? Wait lock I was wanted defended. I am 1558 01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:16,159 generally sometimes kind of hard ish on Bloodborn, but I if there's a centipate 1559 01:40:16,239 --> 01:40:20,079 it, I would think I'm wrong about it. Probably is that one Clink, 1560 01:40:20,239 --> 01:40:25,199 says Mini Metro Man that came out in twenty fifteen, nine years ago. 1561 01:40:25,319 --> 01:40:29,279 Huh, the Metro is pretty good. Villain Max's middle gear Solid five 1562 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:35,119 Cox t versus the Tallos. Principal Zoobmer says fall Out four is RPG game 1563 01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:42,399 of the year. Uh DMC depressed me crying, says Splatoon. Adam asleep 1564 01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:48,720 says, uh, what is this? What is this? Oh Warrian Luigi 1565 01:40:49,399 --> 01:40:53,760 dream Team? Yes, this dream Team dream Team that was the one that 1566 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,840 lost me. It was like every screen there was a new, like very 1567 01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:00,479 long tutorial And it's a shame because it's like it's like a good game with 1568 01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:02,520 a lot of good stuff in it, but those cons are a lot yes, 1569 01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,800 great concept and like there's a lot of great execution. It is just 1570 01:41:06,399 --> 01:41:13,319 so many tutorials in the paper Jam paper Jam. Okay, g I assumed 1571 01:41:13,359 --> 01:41:16,279 it was dreaming the game is paper Jam. They might have picked the wrong 1572 01:41:16,359 --> 01:41:20,359 gift, okay, well, who knows. They maybe made too many of 1573 01:41:20,399 --> 01:41:24,640 those real quickly. By the way, Also, yeah, god, that's 1574 01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,880 right. I don't remember this segment from and I played dream Team and not 1575 01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,640 paper Jam, so maybe this is paper Jam. I don't know. Uh, 1576 01:41:30,119 --> 01:41:34,479 Wong Gifts says Trails of Cold Steel. I just want to play these 1577 01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:40,800 because I like Trails in the Sky. But like that series went three D 1578 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:43,039 with this one, so it's like, you you go from kind of these 1579 01:41:43,119 --> 01:41:45,600 nice pixel graphics that's sort of ugly cheap three D graphics, and it just 1580 01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:49,479 doesn't look nearly as interesting to me. Tea money Og says already the Blind 1581 01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:54,960 Forest, Big Tony says, Zeno Blake Chronicles X like a dig like a 1582 01:41:55,039 --> 01:41:59,319 Dylan Infuite. Well says Rainbow six Siege. Oh gosh, this is the 1583 01:41:59,359 --> 01:42:01,960 game that was bad and then became a hit. Yes, it's very good. 1584 01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:04,199 I like see Ja Tome. I don't know if it's bad, you 1585 01:42:04,239 --> 01:42:08,199 know, it's it was never it was just slight. I think it was 1586 01:42:08,399 --> 01:42:10,560 out of the gate. It was just slight and people weren't quite sure if 1587 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:14,239 they were going to be it or not. Yeah, it was Selim Uh 1588 01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:20,640 Yes, Vision forty nine says Bloodborne Uh Input Notta Eater said, ww Mortals, 1589 01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:25,159 that's a good pull. That more is that Nether Real mobile game? 1590 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:29,720 Yes, exactly. We're where all of the wrestlers are actually like superhumans and 1591 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,039 stuff. It's it was. It's a great idea. Get this as like 1592 01:42:32,119 --> 01:42:34,640 a console game like this was on console. This would this would be a 1593 01:42:35,039 --> 01:42:41,439 like an all time like a Sleeper classic. Alex Markle says, honey, 1594 01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:45,479 pop there it is. Tink says you must Build a Boat. This is 1595 01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,199 another one I've never played. I know people love this, but I never 1596 01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:53,880 played. You must build a Boat. Cry orisis seven, said Heaven's Word. 1597 01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:57,960 Final Fantasy fourteen. Yeah, very very, very very good expansion here 1598 01:42:58,119 --> 01:43:01,119 for fourteen. Not the best expansion. Are you waiting until we get to 1599 01:43:01,199 --> 01:43:03,479 the best expansion before you try to put it on the list. Yeah. 1600 01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,800 Look, I was like, I'm not gonna like put multiple fop basy fourteen 1601 01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:17,760 expitches on these lists to be so nah. Turbot Shawn says Mortal Kombat X, 1602 01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:21,039 even though I would say Mortal Kombat ten, you guys be like, 1603 01:43:21,079 --> 01:43:25,439 that's not right, even though it's the tenth game. It's you're all good. 1604 01:43:26,199 --> 01:43:30,159 Mortal Kombat X from from Turbo Shawn wraps it up though, from the 1605 01:43:30,199 --> 01:43:34,760 podcast producers. All right, so Let's Get Back is very good. Uh, 1606 01:43:35,279 --> 01:43:40,920 I like it. I just when when I was playing through those and 1607 01:43:41,359 --> 01:43:45,239 I think I think X's story I might be complaining him. Now I think 1608 01:43:45,279 --> 01:43:47,800 I was okay, but none of them are the one that's like I like 1609 01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:51,520 it because it's like, hey, we're gonna do Mortal Kombat four story again, 1610 01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:57,079 but this time Johnny Kage's daughter is here. Right. Yeah, I 1611 01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:00,560 did actually like a lot of that stuff. But I think most people think 1612 01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,359 it's the best playing of those. I remember. The complaint was that the 1613 01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,479 graphics were real kind of dark, as was the style at the time, 1614 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,439 Like eleven is definitely a better looking game, and so is Mortal Comeback one. 1615 01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,840 But there's something to the way Mortal Combat ex play that was really good. 1616 01:44:16,039 --> 01:44:19,199 Muted there we go, all right, I'm just gonna add honey pop 1617 01:44:19,239 --> 01:44:25,039 and then we'll go from there. So he didn't add honey pop already I 1618 01:44:25,079 --> 01:44:27,520 brought it up. Yeah, it was a failure of me as your friend. 1619 01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:30,520 I'm sorry. I agree. All right, we have five slots. 1620 01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:34,720 We have more, way more than that Honeypop, way more than in terms 1621 01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:39,479 of games, Mike, where do we start here? Actually, you know 1622 01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,760 what. Here's what we have, which are three Super Mario Maker, Undertail, 1623 01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,640 Rocket League or in the Blind Forest, Fallout four, Bloodborne, Metal 1624 01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:50,920 Gear, Solid five, the Phantom Pain and Honey Pop. Here's where I 1625 01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:55,520 want to start. I don't want to fall Out four on this fucking list. 1626 01:44:57,239 --> 01:45:00,600 Wait, I I refuse to believe you were to play this game today 1627 01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,640 that you would actually hate it. I don't hate it. I don't hate 1628 01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:09,560 it. It it's yeah, I don't want to reward it for kind of 1629 01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:14,239 making the series worse. Yeah, now I get it, Like it is 1630 01:45:14,319 --> 01:45:17,880 so a fun game. All that bass building stuff is so much unnecessary fuff 1631 01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,600 that has nothing to do with anything. If if it's fun building a base, 1632 01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:24,399 fine. Can't believe they just brought it back in Starfield and it is 1633 01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:28,880 somehow still just disconnected from like every other system in the game. It's like 1634 01:45:29,079 --> 01:45:31,279 kind of worse in Starfield. Ye, it's worse at Starfield. It's maddening. 1635 01:45:32,079 --> 01:45:35,520 Yeah, Like, look like so much of the fun for me is 1636 01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:39,079 sart of that RPG stuff like, oh, like, you know, I'm 1637 01:45:39,119 --> 01:45:42,000 gonna talk to this person, and because I have this trait, this conversation 1638 01:45:42,119 --> 01:45:45,479 is going to happen. There's just a lot less of that here. I 1639 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:49,439 think that they kind of tryharded with the story in a way that I didn't 1640 01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:55,920 really enjoy. Not that the story is amazing and Fallout three necessarily either. 1641 01:45:56,279 --> 01:45:59,520 There was not that many memorable characters. Piper is fine. I did like 1642 01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:02,520 Valin. It's clearly not a terrible game. There was some good side quest. 1643 01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:08,880 That one where you become like that paulp superhero thing was fine. But 1644 01:46:09,039 --> 01:46:14,159 I don't know. I think that the trend of Bethesda maybe slipping a bit 1645 01:46:14,239 --> 01:46:17,880 definitely starts here for me. Yeah, I think a lot of the changes 1646 01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:21,399 it made were some of are bad, but for the most part, I'm 1647 01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,960 like that. I'm fine with this. They're trying different things and it worked 1648 01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:28,680 for me. If you begin to put it on a timeline and look at 1649 01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,039 the trends, I see what you're saying. I know exactly what you mean, 1650 01:46:31,279 --> 01:46:34,239 and I think you're also probably right, look it it's definitely not a 1651 01:46:34,319 --> 01:46:36,840 bad game. It's a good game. It's not one of the five best 1652 01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:42,319 games of this very good year. Yeah. I mean for me might squeak 1653 01:46:42,359 --> 01:46:45,039 in at five, but even for me, it's like a question mark there. 1654 01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:50,239 Yeah, I am this is gonna be hard because I see a lot 1655 01:46:50,279 --> 01:46:53,960 of games that I think one of us really likes in the other one is 1656 01:46:54,039 --> 01:46:58,880 maybe okay with Yeah, listen, I'm like, I've tried Witcher three bunch 1657 01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:01,359 of times. I just don't think that game's very fun. Really, yeah, 1658 01:47:01,399 --> 01:47:04,520 really, Because like I was gonna say, man, I don't know 1659 01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:06,840 if we cannot have what your three on the list, but you really yeah, 1660 01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:10,279 that's right. You don't like what your three? I forgot. I 1661 01:47:10,319 --> 01:47:12,560 mean, I'm not saying doesn't have to be on the list. I just 1662 01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,399 don't think it's fun to play. Yeah, yeah, that fun you have 1663 01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:19,640 like the combat and the magic and you're pairing. I like the idea of 1664 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:24,680 like getting like understanding, like Okay, we're going after this thing. I'm 1665 01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:27,199 gonna need to prepare all this stuff and go out there and do that. 1666 01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,159 I think that stuff's pretty neat. But then I go and do it. 1667 01:47:30,279 --> 01:47:32,960 I'm just I don't know. I don't want fun playing it. I don't 1668 01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:38,359 hate it, and I don't think other people should like subscribe to my opinion 1669 01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:41,039 on it because people are finding fun that I'm just not And I'm okay with 1670 01:47:41,119 --> 01:47:44,199 that. It's our list, Jeff. But so you don't want it on 1671 01:47:44,279 --> 01:47:46,279 the list. I'm not saying that. I just I don't. I don't. 1672 01:47:46,319 --> 01:47:48,479 I don't want it a number one if we can avoid it. No, 1673 01:47:49,159 --> 01:47:51,079 hey, if you if you say you straight up, they'll think it's 1674 01:47:51,119 --> 01:47:54,600 fun. I'm not gonna push for number one. No, that's fine. 1675 01:47:56,119 --> 01:48:00,119 Then what can be number one? Here? Yeah? I mean, man 1676 01:48:00,279 --> 01:48:03,479 talking about for me, Rocket League is actually probably number one. I mean 1677 01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:09,000 you're wrong, though, that face is long. Look I like Rocket League. 1678 01:48:09,079 --> 01:48:12,319 I don't know. I don't want to be some snob. He's like, 1679 01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,840 that's just not enough of a video game for me. Of course, 1680 01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,920 I don't feel like that. I like Rocket League. I played like I 1681 01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,960 played trying to convince here, I don't know. I like Rocket League. 1682 01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:27,760 Yeah, it's neat soccer boat cars, that's cool. Why do you have 1683 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:32,279 to say it like that? But you were gonna go, yeah, it's 1684 01:48:32,359 --> 01:48:35,760 fantastic. It was great it's still great today. It's a very good game. 1685 01:48:36,039 --> 01:48:39,960 I was, yeah, like I was prepared for you to try to 1686 01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:41,560 get on the list, and I was gonna be ready for that. I 1687 01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:44,600 just didn't think you're immediately gonna go number one. I mean, listen, 1688 01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:48,119 and well, I do think like a super Mario Maker probably would be my 1689 01:48:48,159 --> 01:48:50,239 real number one. I just what I thought you're gonna say it. I 1690 01:48:50,279 --> 01:48:53,279 thought I was gonna talk you down from that one. I was ready for 1691 01:48:53,359 --> 01:48:59,119 that, right. Rocket League is just such a a simple game to get 1692 01:48:59,159 --> 01:49:01,840 into, and it's everyone likes it. Everyone can have a good time with 1693 01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:05,039 it, and and it holds up for a reason. So I don't know, 1694 01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,600 to me, like it's like kind of a default number one, but 1695 01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:12,239 we don't have to actually do that. I'm listen. I'm fine with Bloodborne. 1696 01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:14,840 I played a lot of blood Born. We won't put that number one. 1697 01:49:15,239 --> 01:49:15,840 I'm down with that, But I don't know if you actually want to 1698 01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:18,319 put it number one. Maybe not. I don't know. We both like 1699 01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:21,359 Bogar Saw at five, don't we? Oh, let's put Nugar said five 1700 01:49:21,359 --> 01:49:25,600 at number one? Yeah? Do that for now? Yeah? All right? 1701 01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:30,680 Cool? Like didn't blood Born at two? Maybe actually that's fine, 1702 01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:34,640 all right. Uh then Rocket League at three and then Super Mario Maker four. 1703 01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:39,000 All right, look if you get those two, then I went undertail. 1704 01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:45,960 Oh that's I like undertail. I went undertail at three. I don't 1705 01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:50,840 know about that. You're getting two of yours. That sounds like blood borne 1706 01:49:50,920 --> 01:50:00,560 that much until out to Time's blood Born down and move everything else up, 1707 01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:05,119 and then I'll move undertail that three. See what you want to do? 1708 01:50:05,399 --> 01:50:09,399 What you want to do? Listen, I don't know if I want to 1709 01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:15,159 do this. I would being pretty hasty there. How quickly you threw the 1710 01:50:15,279 --> 01:50:21,560 blood board the track? Then there we go. Well, no, that's 1711 01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:29,279 not exactly right either, Okay, undertail at three? Yeah, and then 1712 01:50:29,359 --> 01:50:30,600 maybe okay, actually, now that I look at it like this, like 1713 01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:40,319 okay, super Mario Maker at two and then Rocket League, I I really 1714 01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:44,800 think blood which should be above Rocket League? All right, all right, 1715 01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:49,319 it's not. But this is enough super relationship. But you need to realize 1716 01:50:49,359 --> 01:50:55,319 that, chef. Hey, I listen, I've got Super Mario Maker up 1717 01:50:55,319 --> 01:50:58,159 at two. Like what I'm taking what I can get here. I don't 1718 01:50:58,159 --> 01:51:00,920 even bring up Ori. Go look my push is really coming went in the 1719 01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,600 sequel for that one. Yeah, yeah, real, yeah, that I'll 1720 01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:06,640 be pushing. That's probably thing with Ori and the ply Force. It's funny. 1721 01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,399 Also, they could just be like one of your favorite games. Ever 1722 01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:13,640 the sequel comes out like no, that one is now oh yeah, totally 1723 01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:18,479 kind of like that Honey Pop shit, Oh Honey pop too. We'll get 1724 01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:23,760 that one on. All right, let's let's reassess fall Out four? Absolutely 1725 01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:27,039 not? All right? Is this our list? Mike? I can't tell 1726 01:51:27,079 --> 01:51:30,119 anymore. It actually looks like a good list when I'm looking pretty good. 1727 01:51:30,199 --> 01:51:34,159 Yeah, all right, so number one middle gear, Saw five than Super 1728 01:51:34,239 --> 01:51:39,920 Mario, Maker, Undertail, Bloodborne. Number five is rocket League. I 1729 01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,520 get a lot of people, yes, I think, but what can you 1730 01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,239 do? Well, yeah, because they're gonna be like Rocket League should definitely 1731 01:51:45,279 --> 01:51:50,760 be above Bloodborne. I don't know why that old Rocket League. You just 1732 01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:57,239 threw so many curve balls at me on that one. I was trying to 1733 01:51:57,319 --> 01:51:59,520 keep you on your toes a little bit there. Yeah, all right, 1734 01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:05,279 so a number one, right, Rocket League is easily to be number one 1735 01:52:05,319 --> 01:52:09,880 on this list. You are legit just wrong about that. Let's be clear, 1736 01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:13,680 like you are just wrong. I don't know, I do know. 1737 01:52:14,159 --> 01:52:17,079 I can't run a poe anymore. Some of our poll is it's Rocket League 1738 01:52:17,239 --> 01:52:20,119 number one. Well, okay, you don't have to say it like that. 1739 01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:26,479 It's Rocket League, the best game of twenty fifteen everybody. Oh okay, 1740 01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:29,079 well, why can't you guys run poles anymore? I don't know. 1741 01:52:29,119 --> 01:52:32,880 I never was able to run How poles work on YouTube? I can do 1742 01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:40,960 them a giant Bob dot com. Yeah, we'll go over there. Uh, 1743 01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:43,279 Jeff, do you want to do you want me to read these out 1744 01:52:43,359 --> 01:52:45,920 for you or yea reading one more time for everybody. Best Games of twenty 1745 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:49,640 fifteen number five, Rocket League, number four, Blood Born, number three, 1746 01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:54,119 Undertail, number two, Super Mario Maker, and the number one Medaga 1747 01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:59,760 five The Phantom Pain, which again games has like these these small gLing faults 1748 01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:04,479 that bobabe, but overall just a fantastic game. There you go, all 1749 01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:08,600 right, one more quick break. We're gonna get back. We're going to 1750 01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:10,920 talk about what we've been playing, and then get out of here. Everybody, 1751 01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:16,520 thanks for sticking with us, and we're back. Let's talk about what 1752 01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:21,279 we've been playing. Mike, I've been spending some time with Bilatro, mostly 1753 01:53:21,359 --> 01:53:25,000 with the demo version. I can't I actually don't. I should check the 1754 01:53:25,039 --> 01:53:27,800 embargo, but I played so much of the demo version. That's what I'm 1755 01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:31,279 speaking about here again. Rules. It's a lot of fun, It's got 1756 01:53:31,319 --> 01:53:34,199 a lot of cool ideas. This is the poker deck building game that we've 1757 01:53:34,199 --> 01:53:36,079 been talking about over on Giant Bomb. I think I might have talked a 1758 01:53:36,119 --> 01:53:41,000 little bit about it on one of these shows. It continues to be really 1759 01:53:41,079 --> 01:53:44,159 fantastic. It's the kind of game that will swallow up my life. So 1760 01:53:44,319 --> 01:53:46,880 I am like, yeah, I need to just put that aside until I 1761 01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,119 have a little bit more time or get through some of these bigger games. 1762 01:53:50,039 --> 01:53:56,000 Other than that, it's been continues to be like a Dragon Infinite Wealth and 1763 01:53:56,119 --> 01:54:00,159 then some review games. But like Dragon, here's the poll. Is it 1764 01:54:00,279 --> 01:54:03,920 fine as is on the list or does should it be higher? Finance is 1765 01:54:04,119 --> 01:54:08,680 one with sixty five percent higher with only thirty four percent? Sorry, Hey, 1766 01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:11,319 I like that card game. Also, I got to play it. 1767 01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:14,560 I enjoy it. I want to play more of it. It's a I 1768 01:54:15,079 --> 01:54:18,199 also like poker a good deal, so doing Rogue like poker game, that's 1769 01:54:18,239 --> 01:54:24,239 a fantastic idea. Yeah, I mean, there's a history of like poker 1770 01:54:25,159 --> 01:54:28,319 getting video game of fighted in a bunch of different ways, ways a poker 1771 01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,000 smash. It was like an early Xbox Live arcade game that I really liked. 1772 01:54:31,039 --> 01:54:34,119 It was like a act like an active puzzle game, and that one 1773 01:54:34,239 --> 01:54:36,680 was really really good, and I think I think it's still backward compatible on 1774 01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:40,920 Xbox. I think you could still play it. And it's like, oh, 1775 01:54:41,079 --> 01:54:42,840 yeah, we haven't had one of those in a long time. So 1776 01:54:43,039 --> 01:54:45,840 someone kind of bringing this along and actually being really well designed, really well 1777 01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,319 thought out. I really really enjoy it. But then, yeah, like 1778 01:54:48,359 --> 01:54:53,319 a dragon, I keep I'm keeping my momentum going with that. I'm getting 1779 01:54:53,439 --> 01:54:57,880 out of this recent CUREU in Japan chapter, which has a lot of like 1780 01:54:58,199 --> 01:55:00,319 what I can tell is nostalgia for people who longtime fans of the series, 1781 01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:04,119 and that it like feels like a proper sort of passing of the torch. 1782 01:55:04,479 --> 01:55:06,279 That is what a lot of people are explaining to me, and I can 1783 01:55:06,359 --> 01:55:09,479 tell like just my planet, it's like, yeah, it seems like there's 1784 01:55:09,479 --> 01:55:11,520 a lot of stuff. It's like remember this, remember this, remember this. 1785 01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:15,119 Here's this little thing like tied up in a nice neat bow that is 1786 01:55:15,199 --> 01:55:17,800 probably very emotional for people who experience this originally, and even for me, 1787 01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:21,239 I'm like, this is really well done, so just overall continues to be 1788 01:55:21,279 --> 01:55:26,239 a really, really great game. It compared it to like that Shadow Moses 1789 01:55:26,359 --> 01:55:30,520 chapter Melgressoft Forward. I immediately understood what he meant with that. Yeah, 1790 01:55:30,439 --> 01:55:32,279 how about you, Mike, what do you what have you been filming? 1791 01:55:32,359 --> 01:55:34,119 Like, you know what twenty fifteen game. We didn't mention it at all. 1792 01:55:34,159 --> 01:55:36,199 It's a little messed up to me, because that was a good game. 1793 01:55:36,439 --> 01:55:40,479 It seems like everybody forgot about it. Is Shadow or a Rise of 1794 01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:44,199 the Rise of the tom Raider. That's yeah, that's the tourmb Rader one 1795 01:55:44,199 --> 01:55:46,399 that I really like that. Yeah, it's the best of that trophy and 1796 01:55:46,479 --> 01:55:49,359 it's the probably the best turmb Rador game. It's all snowy and I like 1797 01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:53,960 the yeah tombs were fantastic. So just a shout out to Rise of the 1798 01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:57,039 Tomb Raider. I think that's definitely agreed. Yeah we should we should have. 1799 01:55:57,159 --> 01:55:59,279 Least I would have put it above Rocket League, but I don't think 1800 01:55:59,319 --> 01:56:05,439 Jeff would have gone for well fuck no, yeah, yeah, so have 1801 01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:09,000 I still play Tech in eight. I still try to play at least a 1802 01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:12,439 little bit every day, just climbing the ladder there, and you know, 1803 01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:15,680 like I am climbing still, which is fun. It's that's crazy. Yeah, 1804 01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:17,319 it's like slowish, and I don't play a ton every day, but 1805 01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:20,560 like you know, like the rinks are kind of color coded, and I'm 1806 01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:24,880 in the orangeerry right now trying to get to the red. If I got 1807 01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,720 to the red, I think I feel pretty good about myself. I don't 1808 01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:30,399 know much higher than that I am ever gonna get, but it is fun. 1809 01:56:30,479 --> 01:56:33,800 Like I am at this point where this character I'm playing as Rena at 1810 01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:39,159 any moment, I know all these different moves I could do. And I'm 1811 01:56:39,159 --> 01:56:41,880 also at this point now where I know a lot of the other characters well 1812 01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:45,399 enough that I can do things like, Okay, I know in this combo, 1813 01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,640 I could maybe duck and do a low attack here, and that can 1814 01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:51,600 be a launcher and I can play off of that. So you know, 1815 01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:56,000 that's always everything of fighting games is it does reward you for the more you 1816 01:56:56,159 --> 01:56:59,720 play and the more you pay attention to further your expertise. Is even though 1817 01:57:00,199 --> 01:57:02,439 if you just wanted to play Tech and eight as this kind of I'm gonna 1818 01:57:02,439 --> 01:57:06,000 goof around by myself, play the story mode, played that arcade quest. 1819 01:57:06,399 --> 01:57:10,880 Just get all these characters endings, that alone would be worth the price of 1820 01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:14,720 admission. But I am glad that this Ladder experience is really good. My 1821 01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:18,239 connections have generally been very good, so I am really enjoying playing teching like 1822 01:57:18,319 --> 01:57:24,319 that. Are we officially the era of fighting games work online well enough that 1823 01:57:24,439 --> 01:57:27,520 it's a great way to play those games? Well, yes, we'll find 1824 01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:30,760 out. I'm boy am I curious what the next Smash Brothers is going to 1825 01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:34,319 feel like online? Accepting that? Yes, God, can you imagine how 1826 01:57:34,319 --> 01:57:39,399 happy I be if there was just like a don't don't please, don't say 1827 01:57:39,399 --> 01:57:42,439 anything people, But like if there was a no, like a no item 1828 01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:46,199 just one v one they like Ladder raked mode and Smash Brothers. I know, 1829 01:57:46,319 --> 01:57:51,439 I sound like an idiot. There is an ultimate, no, you 1830 01:57:51,479 --> 01:57:56,800 know what I mean? But like no, I don't. Well mean, 1831 01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:59,479 there's the mode to play that is an ultimate, But is it a loud 1832 01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:02,640 mode something a bit smash I'll get a bit more streamlined than for Glory or 1833 01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:10,119 whatever it was called. Enough, I'm sorry for that game for the next 1834 01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:14,319 That's what I mean. More than anything. Yeah, yeah, I really 1835 01:58:14,399 --> 01:58:18,479 like taking eight. Otherwise, it's been playing Persona three still and obviously been 1836 01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:24,039 really really enjoying that. I'm I got Fuka, Who's a character who I 1837 01:58:24,079 --> 01:58:27,960 said, uh, whose voice upset me the original Persona three, and her 1838 01:58:28,039 --> 01:58:30,319 voice I think is much better in this one. So I actually like this 1839 01:58:30,439 --> 01:58:33,000 character now, So that's nice. Good. Yeah. Yeah, So mich 1840 01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:39,359 Hell Divers too is so much fun, Jeff, I've had had so much 1841 01:58:39,439 --> 01:58:42,239 fun playing I played it with you with the Giant Bad people, and then 1842 01:58:42,279 --> 01:58:45,439 with my brothers. What an incredible game. Yep, it rules, I 1843 01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:47,920 am uh. I probably will spend some time this weekend solo queuing in that, 1844 01:58:48,079 --> 01:58:51,520 just to see what that's like for good things. So I'm looking forward 1845 01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:55,439 to And I'm not gonna use a MIC unless I end up with a one 1846 01:58:55,479 --> 01:58:59,399 with a friend, which from I understanding is a likely possibility for other people 1847 01:58:59,439 --> 01:59:01,640 are playing online that you're friends with. But otherwise, yeah, I'm just 1848 01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:03,920 gonna go in there and we'll try to stick together as best I can and 1849 01:59:04,279 --> 01:59:09,239 and emote and pointed things and just mark them and then just kind of do 1850 01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:14,840 my best to contribute. I've been playing tomorrow with the fire Escape people. 1851 01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:16,800 Actually, I assume that's not a secret, but data ask if I can 1852 01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:18,880 play with them. Yeah. I mentioned that you guys are going to be 1853 01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:21,640 doing some stuff together. Yeah, so that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's 1854 01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:26,479 good. I've been playing with Randos all the time now and it's been working 1855 01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:30,039 fine for me. Some people use as their their mic and some people don't. 1856 01:59:30,079 --> 01:59:32,560 They just use the marking and you know, it's like in the world, 1857 01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:38,000 So it works really fine, and the connections as being good when you 1858 01:59:38,079 --> 01:59:41,560 connect sometimes you have to like reconnect a couple of times, but it's been 1859 01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:46,439 working like flawlessly since they budget so really happy with that. I think it 1860 01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:50,560 just continues to be like, yeah, I mean it's so hell divers one 1861 01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:56,439 and yet it's so much more, or it's it's or just it's just hitting 1862 01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:59,239 so much more in a lot of ways. And obviously a big part of 1863 01:59:59,319 --> 02:00:02,319 that is the way the perspective works and how they handle the visual so so 1864 02:00:02,439 --> 02:00:05,920 you really feel like you're in it that much more obviously, and that's really 1865 02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:10,439 important. But I don't know, I just really like that that game is 1866 02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:14,359 finding an audience and that we all kind of agree that it is an amazing 1867 02:00:14,439 --> 02:00:16,239 thing, and I you know, really their website says it like that a 1868 02:00:16,319 --> 02:00:19,640 game for everybody is a game for no one. This is a game for 1869 02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:24,399 people who want this kind of thing, and they just go that far in 1870 02:00:24,479 --> 02:00:27,720 that direction, or as far in that direction as they possibly can. Every 1871 02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,520 choice is in service of does it make it feel more dangerous? Does it 1872 02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:33,039 make it feel like everything matters? And it's like, yes, then that's 1873 02:00:33,039 --> 02:00:38,399 what we're doing. See a huge fan of hell Divers too. I'm glad 1874 02:00:38,439 --> 02:00:40,640 that it's a success, and glad that studio is like, hey, we 1875 02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:43,439 are hiring up so that we can do even more with hell Divers too. 1876 02:00:43,439 --> 02:00:47,479 I hope it's a long running success. All right, Mike super chats. 1877 02:00:47,479 --> 02:00:49,720 I think there's a handful mored Why don't you read those and then we'll get 1878 02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:53,479 out of here. Yeah, let me see if I can catch up here. 1879 02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:59,279 Chance to change stuff, get arka Knight. Green thumbs was just I 1880 02:00:59,319 --> 02:01:00,880 don't think there's any texting this one. There was no message there, but 1881 02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:05,279 thank you green thumbs. Ol Grug says, put Grow Home above Bloodborn for 1882 02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:10,840 tam. I never played Grow Home person. Yeah, I like a lot 1883 02:01:12,279 --> 02:01:16,279 zoob versus. Nora is a better protagonist than girl is Nora from Life is 1884 02:01:16,319 --> 02:01:20,560 strange. It's something else. No from I don't think Norraa's from Life was 1885 02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:27,279 strange. Nom is Nora from Honey Pop? I don't think so. I 1886 02:01:27,319 --> 02:01:31,960 think I remember their names. Nora video game. I think character. Let's 1887 02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:42,960 see somehow there's gonna be a follow Okay, sure I disagree Rogers ojesus Jeff 1888 02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:45,960 for love of God, you need to play box Boy. I think that's 1889 02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:48,359 the game. I was complaining about that. Yeah, I guess it was. 1890 02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:53,000 Yeah, you're like, is there such a thing as two minimalists? 1891 02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:55,439 And then you start going a rant. We all just ignored you. Yeah, 1892 02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:57,359 I was a good rant. I was making a good point. Uh, 1893 02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:00,279 we love this game, and you're just like, there's not enough graphics. 1894 02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:03,479 Look, I'm sure it's fine. I'd be look a little, I 1895 02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:09,600 can use a little something. I don't know, Rogers og says Jeff for 1896 02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:11,920 the Love of God, and you need to play that's the one I just 1897 02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:16,439 read. It. Look like even if a game will take an Atari game, 1898 02:02:16,479 --> 02:02:19,960 that would be more aesthetically interesting to be the literally just like lines. 1899 02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:25,760 Maybe maybe an animates really well, you don't know, maybe not. Alex 1900 02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:30,039 O'Leary says, found out what the Xbox podcast meats for. Tommy Tellerco is 1901 02:02:30,119 --> 02:02:33,880 not his name? Hams ten dollars, you said, Alex O'Leary, What 1902 02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:36,640 are you talking of? You said, Alex, I don't know my glasses 1903 02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:40,920 on Mikey, O'Leary writes, like every episode, how can I say his 1904 02:02:41,079 --> 02:02:44,960 name wrong? What's wrong with me? You've got me all hot? Oh? 1905 02:02:45,079 --> 02:02:46,960 He shoot, everybody, stand back, he's mad about box. Wait 1906 02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:51,720 wait, I say, Mike, I thought he said Alex Oileary. Maybe 1907 02:02:51,760 --> 02:03:01,520 maybe I misunderstood. Stand back. Everybody's but O'Leary says, found out what 1908 02:03:01,640 --> 02:03:08,119 the Xbox podcast beats for. Tommy Talla Rico, his sand Juan Capistrano homes 1909 02:03:08,199 --> 02:03:11,840 up for sale three billion, and it is truly garish. This is real, 1910 02:03:12,239 --> 02:03:15,439 well not the Xbox plot. Imagine if we bought Tommy Talla Rico's home. 1911 02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:19,399 All right, everybody, let's get the go fund me going. God, 1912 02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:24,199 oh my god. Ah. We could like run tours and stuff a 1913 02:03:24,279 --> 02:03:27,560 Tommy tall Rico experience to get to pay for it. I'll say, hey, 1914 02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,960 I'll give you your asking price in cash if I can keep the giddess. 1915 02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:33,319 Yes, of course, yeah, I leave him on the wall. 1916 02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:45,520 He was never on cribs. He was never actually on Man, that's incredible. 1917 02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:48,920 He just lies about being on fucking cribs. It's like it was like 1918 02:03:49,479 --> 02:03:54,479 it was like some video game show. Right. There were a lot of 1919 02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:58,159 people like from like that generation. I think we were so into hustle culture 1920 02:03:58,399 --> 02:04:00,680 that I was like, well, of course you like you. You exaggerate, 1921 02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:02,760 and you know they don't think it's lying. Well, you exaggerate because 1922 02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:06,319 you got to really promote yourself. And then the Internet happened and we can 1923 02:04:06,359 --> 02:04:11,760 actually just document Oh you said this on TV and it's just not true. 1924 02:04:14,159 --> 02:04:16,119 That's everybody. Thank you so much for the super chats. Really appreciate it. 1925 02:04:16,199 --> 02:04:19,119 Thank you. Hope Tommy saved this money. I think he's gonna need 1926 02:04:19,159 --> 02:04:24,039 it. All right, everybody, thank you for watching, Mike, thanks 1927 02:04:24,039 --> 02:04:27,479 for reading the super chats. Mods, thank you for your help tonight. 1928 02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:30,600 I really appreciate it. Thank you everybody for watching. Should we get out 1929 02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:32,720 of your mic? Let's get out of here, all right, I'm gonna 1930 02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:36,039 hit the button. A long weekend, looking forward to it. That's gonna 1931 02:04:36,039 --> 02:04:41,760 be nice. It's gonna be nice. Got some fun stuff happening on the 1932 02:04:42,199 --> 02:04:45,359 Giant Bomb tomorrow. It'll be a good time. We'll play some stuff on 1933 02:04:45,479 --> 02:04:47,560 UPF got a lot of stuff planned for that, might do a little bit 1934 02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:54,039 of a kind of a longer one, and then we'll have a BombCast revengeance. 1935 02:04:54,319 --> 02:04:56,319 We'll lose some fun stuff on there. I'll bring some games to talk 1936 02:04:56,359 --> 02:05:00,319 about probably and do is this character more or less famous than cloud Strife? 1937 02:05:00,920 --> 02:05:05,119 So I'm gonna have some fun with that. Other than playing games, you're 1938 02:05:05,119 --> 02:05:08,119 gonna like get out there. I know you had you sound like you had 1939 02:05:08,119 --> 02:05:10,800 a pretty social butterfly weekend last week, and are you're gonna kind of take 1940 02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:13,840 it easy this one with this weekend. I'm trying to think. I don't 1941 02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:15,640 think I have. I think there's one person wants to go out and like 1942 02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:17,880 I'll do that. I don't want to do. I've been very Yeah, 1943 02:05:18,039 --> 02:05:21,600 I've had a lot of very social weekends. I need to play a video 1944 02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:25,199 game this weekend is what I want to do. Yeah, for real? 1945 02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:29,439 He is anybody else ever triggered their own eye watches being like too loud things 1946 02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:33,960 just by talking? Is that how loud and obnoxious person? It sounds like 1947 02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:38,840 you're in a loud environment. You should exit and save yourself literally to me. 1948 02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:43,359 I can't leave myself just for me talking loudly my phones like oh, 1949 02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:50,279 you're gonna hurt your ears and Jesus, oh hell yeah, that's incredible. 1950 02:05:50,920 --> 02:05:57,359 No, Mike can't say that's ever happened to me. You're so quiet and 1951 02:05:57,479 --> 02:06:00,119 meuse Jeff, you didn't version of me, but that I never saw that 1952 02:06:00,279 --> 02:06:04,199 person. I'm also gonna be spending this weekend playing a lot of video games. 1953 02:06:04,239 --> 02:06:06,279 I'll clean up around the house a little bit. Looking forward to doing 1954 02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:10,800 that. I haven't had much time for that, but uh yeah, God, 1955 02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:13,800 I hope I could beat Like a Dragon. It is still just such 1956 02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:15,159 a fun game to play. I think I will, but I really want 1957 02:06:15,199 --> 02:06:17,920 to spend more time with some of these review games. So we'll see. 1958 02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:24,920 You're gonna pick up Mario Versus Donkey Kong tonight. No, I'm gonna keep 1959 02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:27,960 playing percent It's so funny how much we love Doky Knng ninety four. And 1960 02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:32,359 then I see Mars's Donkey Kong. I'm like repulsed. I'll probably pick it 1961 02:06:32,439 --> 02:06:34,880 up. I might wait and see if Nintendo, since the codes we'll see 1962 02:06:35,279 --> 02:06:39,279 usually I don't these days for Nintendo games, this one I might wait and 1963 02:06:39,279 --> 02:06:41,079 see. If I have so much one percent, I'm gonna play that. 1964 02:06:42,000 --> 02:07:06,119 Thanks for watching, everybody, catch you next time. Goodbye. He's shoot 1965 02:07:06,199 --> 02:07:19,640 hot about box Boy just a stupid is a stupid ass. He could all 1966 02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:28,239 want the fuck off. We all want we all want it right right back, 1967 02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:30,960 no problem. You know what, they call it a podcast because if 1968 02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,680 they call it anything else, we'll be like, oh, this is a 1969 02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:38,319 fucking presentation. What are they going to present? Yes, this is exactly 1970 02:07:38,399 --> 02:07:41,239 they can't. They can call a presentation for that exact reason, right If 1971 02:07:41,239 --> 02:07:44,359 they're then like, whoa present us with something, It's like it's almost like 1972 02:07:44,439 --> 02:07:48,640 there wasn't that much to say they're beginning with. That is like the biggest 1973 02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:51,079 thing where like I saw Gene like I'm not even gonna write a story about 1974 02:07:51,079 --> 02:07:53,560 this. I'm like, yeah, man, I'm glad I don't have to 1975 02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:56,920 like figure out what these headlines look like. I mean the obvious headlines. 1976 02:07:56,920 --> 02:08:00,439 Oh, they confirm next gen xbox Like that's se O kit now of course 1977 02:08:01,039 --> 02:08:05,000 cat nip go kidnap cat headline. The fanboys were fucking out of their minds, 1978 02:08:05,079 --> 02:08:09,840 like yeah, they're like okay, yeah, I feel like Phil has 1979 02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:13,359 a little bit of fault on this one, because he went like, careful, 1980 02:08:13,399 --> 02:08:16,960 we're gonna next week, we're gonna talk about this. This is kind 1981 02:08:18,039 --> 02:08:20,960 of serious. Let's be a little bit of mysterious about this. Like what 1982 02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:28,560 just like yeah, I mean that's why, like people wonder why like Nintendo 1983 02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:30,479 will say, oh, we have nothing to say on this matter, or 1984 02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:33,119 they just won't say anything at all, and it's because of stuff like this, 1985 02:08:33,439 --> 02:08:35,000 Like yes, yeah, they're just like, hey, y'all are being 1986 02:08:35,079 --> 02:08:37,439 crazy over there. We're gonna let you be crazy, and we're I mean 1987 02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:43,039 business stuff. The reality is, like I think these conversations were happening in 1988 02:08:43,119 --> 02:08:46,399 a much much more serious way than they're letting on here, and that they 1989 02:08:46,479 --> 02:08:50,760 got to those rumors starting to come out and then they're like, well, 1990 02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:52,520 we're gonna have that conversation like in a couple of weeks, like made me 1991 02:08:52,640 --> 02:08:56,359 me like more than a month away. Uh do we have to wait till 1992 02:08:56,439 --> 02:08:58,079 then? Or what's going on? So? Oh no, we have to 1993 02:08:58,079 --> 02:09:01,079 make decisions now. So let's just make the safe ones. Let's do this 1994 02:09:01,119 --> 02:09:03,079 stuff, and let's pull back and we'll revisit these conversations in a little bit. 1995 02:09:03,319 --> 02:09:09,640 Because one percent everybody let's just like reiterate this. Gears of War was 1996 02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:13,279 being talked about in a pretty serious way, like that is one that was 1997 02:09:13,319 --> 02:09:16,640 being because it doesn't mean it's happening, right, but it's like it was 1998 02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:20,159 being considered enough to the point where it could have happened. And so like 1999 02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:24,479 that, clearly they're like, well, let's not worry about that right now, 2000 02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:26,800 let's just talk about the four games that talking about it. I'm sure 2001 02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:30,880 this scared them off it a good bit. Yes, exactly right, and 2002 02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,079 I think they were happy to like retreat from that for now so they could 2003 02:09:33,159 --> 02:09:35,439 just go have this podcast, get that out of the way, talk about 2004 02:09:35,439 --> 02:09:39,920 those four games, and then revisit that stuff a little bit later after they 2005 02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:41,920 put out some games that people are really happy about and they can be in 2006 02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:45,800 a better spot. And it's like, oh man, that Indiana Jones that 2007 02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:48,199 was really great and we played that exclusively for quite some time, and say, 2008 02:09:48,199 --> 02:09:50,279 oh, you're gonna put the Gears of Work collection out on PlayStation. 2009 02:09:50,359 --> 02:09:54,279 Who gives a fuck? Yeah, all right, people won't care anyways, 2010 02:09:54,319 --> 02:09:58,840 but yes, yeah, of course of course they will. Thank you too. 2011 02:10:00,079 --> 02:10:07,439 All our sponsors I insert joke here, Yeah, uh have we I 2012 02:10:07,479 --> 02:10:11,239 guess it is kind of going to be election year. Have we started getting 2013 02:10:11,279 --> 02:10:13,880 political ads in our podcast? I don't think we're signed in for those. 2014 02:10:15,039 --> 02:10:18,079 Sometimes people, no, I know, but it's a lot of times people 2015 02:10:18,119 --> 02:10:24,000 people will deliberately mislabel what their ads are so they can get around that stuff. 2016 02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:28,079 Yes, that's what happens when we get it. Yes, I mean 2017 02:10:28,119 --> 02:10:33,079 there's definitely obviously the marketers, so they are inherently awful one and evil. 2018 02:10:33,439 --> 02:10:37,319 We got we got two uh two more segments to do here. Let's get 2019 02:10:37,359 --> 02:10:41,800 into it. Let's get back into it. Stop talking about politics. What 2020 02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:46,199 are we doing next? We're doing the bop thing? Yes, okay it, 2021 02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:50,920 yes see, let me get that set up. Yes, get that 2022 02:10:50,960 --> 02:11:00,680 set up. This will be a quick one, too. Cool. Hey, 2023 02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:01,640 Jeff, if I was, if I was, if we were in 2024 02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:05,399 high school and I was like, Hey, I'm going to try to date 2025 02:11:05,439 --> 02:11:09,800 a teacher. You're my friend, what would you Would you encourage me because 2026 02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:15,159 you think that's what a friendship do? Or would you maybe explain why it's 2027 02:11:15,199 --> 02:11:22,800 a bad idea? Is it like a crush sort of thing where I believe 2028 02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:26,239 the teacher could potentially like have a good conversation with you. About like what 2029 02:11:26,359 --> 02:11:30,760 human relations relationships are really about? How for a matter of months, I 2030 02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:33,920 am convinced that I am in a relationship with this teacher and that it is 2031 02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:37,920 progressing to a point where we're going Mary, Oh no, no, I 2032 02:11:37,960 --> 02:11:41,159 would feel a deep responsibility to get you help. I love that Jeff has 2033 02:11:41,319 --> 02:11:48,520 no idea where this is coming. This has got to be a pisoda. 2034 02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:52,600 Socialk is just wild. It just makes methinks. It's bad. It's a 2035 02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:58,600 game. This is a misrepresentation of what friendship is like. Friendship is just 2036 02:11:58,640 --> 02:12:01,199 telling them what they want to hear. That's you get the most friendship, 2037 02:12:03,680 --> 02:12:09,319 dude, and tell him your delusion one. Okay, the first time I 2038 02:12:09,399 --> 02:12:11,159 did play the game, I did see the things like what is wrong with 2039 02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:15,640 you? You talking about? And then it took me forever to finish that 2040 02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:20,279 social leak because yeah, yeah, your options are encouragement and encouragement or be 2041 02:12:20,399 --> 02:12:22,640 a dick and nothing changes about it. I think they could do that if 2042 02:12:22,680 --> 02:12:26,600 it was funny, But it's not funny. It's annoying, not funny. 2043 02:12:26,399 --> 02:12:30,840 I hate it. Gets a fucking loser. Yeah he's a loser. He's 2044 02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:33,079 annoying. I hate it, Like I've been hating it for fifteen years. 2045 02:12:33,159 --> 02:12:37,399 Some bad social angths in that game. I am set up over here. 2046 02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:43,920 Just do one last thing, America go pretty good? But that is ready? 2047 02:12:43,000 --> 02:12:46,079 Okay, cool, I'm set up. We're ready to go. I'll 2048 02:12:46,079 --> 02:12:50,079 bring this second. All right, that's just take a moment. Well, 2049 02:12:50,119 --> 02:12:54,600 I just get switched over to the other scene, well the other asset here. 2050 02:12:58,880 --> 02:13:03,680 Okayness, oh goodness, okay, next you can start giggling at entities 2051 02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:16,720 again my throat, all right, and then I'm sorry, but Jeff's stunt 2052 02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:20,079 race FX on those hose gaming is just such a good, pure very proud 2053 02:13:20,119 --> 02:13:24,399 of that. Yeah. I like that one a lot. Rocket Mike Adventures. 2054 02:13:24,479 --> 02:13:30,359 It's a solid fun it's a solid very good mic funny. What about 2055 02:13:30,399 --> 02:13:35,840 Crystal Dynamics, Mike with a K. That's the good stuff, Oh right, 2056 02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:39,760 because it's your furry thing. Yeah, all right, I'm fading in 2057 02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:43,000 there, we go. Let's bring this back. Give me, give me 2058 02:13:43,119 --> 02:13:48,279 a pus the break you want to do it in and out? Okay, 2059 02:13:48,319 --> 02:13:54,159 that's oh okay, that's an interesting way of putting it. I thought those 2060 02:13:54,199 --> 02:13:56,960 good middle ground. Yeah, that's good. I'm okay with that. No, 2061 02:13:58,239 --> 02:14:05,479 no, I hate it. You're luck at him put lower on the 2062 02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:13,239 list. It's not my fault that people have bad taste. That's just Rocket 2063 02:14:13,319 --> 02:14:16,319 League, rules League. There's man, that's just everything, Like, not 2064 02:14:16,479 --> 02:14:18,760 in a bad way, but it does everything you need to know about. 2065 02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:20,920 Jeff gar was like, yeah, I don't get it with the Witcher three. 2066 02:14:22,079 --> 02:14:24,680 Also, Rocket League was the best. Rocket League is fun and feel 2067 02:14:24,800 --> 02:14:28,640 good. I get it exactly. That's yeah, I get yeah. If 2068 02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:33,560 Witcher three felt anywhere near as good to play as Rocket League does, it 2069 02:14:33,640 --> 02:14:39,840 would be fucking cooking if it was a car pg rot it What are you 2070 02:14:39,880 --> 02:14:43,880 talking about? Rocket League is fun to play, Wicher three is not. 2071 02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:50,880 But there's fucking in Witcher three. You can kind of put the cars on 2072 02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:58,199 top of one another. Okay, listen, we don't need hey. Miss 2073 02:14:58,760 --> 02:15:03,680 is a miss MISSOURIU from Persona three and Jennifer from What's Your Three? Is 2074 02:15:03,720 --> 02:15:16,880 that the same character? I mean, Jennifer sucks though so in a way 2075 02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:22,039 that I like. But you can't what do you on this podcast? I 2076 02:15:22,079 --> 02:15:26,680 don't know. All right, let's get on this podcast. Just end this