WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:07.120 This. It is to two seventeen Recovery Podcast with Corey Winfield. Yeah, 2 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:09.960 it's hard right now, It's tough, it sucks. You want to crawl 3 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:13.080 a hole and die. But this could be the best thing that's ever happened 4 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:17.160 to you. Justin Burke, then we actually take better care of her than 5 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.519 our plants or you're talking about Susan. You're back on that. Yeah, 6 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:30.199 And Mitchell old Brian, I watered all of the plants, all of them. 7 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:35.280 It is the nineteenth of January twenty twenty four. My name is Cory 8 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:41.280 Winfield, broadcasting from the North Studio today, which means I have fellow guests. 9 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:45.039 I guess they wouldn't be fellow guests, but Justin Burke, how are 10 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:50.159 you guys doing? Doing fabulous? All right? And Mitchell O'Brien, I'm 11 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:53.479 a fellow, and we get a conversation with yourself where you were talking to 12 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:56.719 us. I'm kind of so confused right now. All right, Well, 13 00:00:56.719 --> 00:01:00.320 welcome to the podcast and we're going to talk a little recovery today. Men. 14 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:06.519 Yay, I'm experienced in that it's beautiful. Well, first of all, 15 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:11.000 I do have to say that I realized today's amounts of medication. Okay, 16 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:15.920 that's something called contrave, which is like half no track Zone and half 17 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:19.560 Wellbuchen or something. I mean, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a 18 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:22.760 pharmacist. That don't quote me on any of this, but I'm pretty sure 19 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:25.560 that's what it is. And I don't like it. I don't like the 20 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:27.040 way it makes me feel. And I've only been on it for like four 21 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:30.120 days now, but the first day I had to make a run to the 22 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:34.280 bathroom here at the office, and I have a rule pretty much, it's 23 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:40.519 like, don't do number two in the office bathroom because like it's right up 24 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:46.040 next to the front and you know, I had to I remember this moment. 25 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:49.840 Yeah, you're yes about time. Well, no, it wasn't just 26 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.200 one SAT day. I think it was twice, wasn't it. Yeah, 27 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:56.840 but it was only one time really, because my guts were gurgling and berglin 28 00:01:56.879 --> 00:01:59.599 and I'm like, man, I don't want to shark myself because I had 29 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:01.560 to go talk over next door at the Detox, right. I don't want 30 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:06.359 to be over there, like, you know, have issues. But you 31 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:07.800 guys probably would be like, no, that's better for us because we're not 32 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:13.520 going to get the wrath of Windfield's shit shaming at work. So you guys 33 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:16.800 are probably rather to go to detox to take a crap but but nah, 34 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:19.960 So like I didn't like that part of it. But I just don't like 35 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.599 what makes me feel right now. And and today I was just thinking about 36 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:27.240 it on the way into work. I was like, all this really does. 37 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.520 And then I'm on some other medication that like is supposed to make me 38 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:34.240 not hungry. All I have to do, guys, is just don't eat 39 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.879 as much. Don't eat bullshit, you know, Like that's seriously all I 40 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.599 have to do. Like nothing they're giving me is like speeding up my metabolism 41 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:46.960 or anything like that. It's just the attraction I'm supposed to help me like 42 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:50.240 not want to eat sugars and stuff like that, I guess. But you 43 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:54.039 know, I do this to my recoveries. I encourage them to at least 44 00:02:54.039 --> 00:03:00.280 stay on their medications for at least two weeks, because the first week was 45 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:04.280 the roughice and then it slowly starts to taper off the second week. Typically, 46 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:09.280 when you start a new medication, doctors devised thirty days. That's my 47 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:13.000 experience. Yeah, they say thirty days before it really kicks in, but 48 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:16.000 I don't like to always make me feel now. Yeah, well it's one 49 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:21.759 of those things you just have to get over or I just don't take it. 50 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:25.840 And like I said, see, is this a whole I'm in control 51 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:29.360 thing? Because this is this is why I want to talk about with you 52 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:34.280 guys today, because it's so early recovery stuff. I mean, it's it's 53 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.159 it's one to the other. You can look at it because here I am 54 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.159 going, well, I just want to stop taking it now. I just 55 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:44.879 I just want to do that. And my doctor's like, well, you 56 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:49.599 should be on this so you don't get diabetes anymore and anymore. Yeah, 57 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.960 I had it once. Then I was like, Okay, how do I 58 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.000 get rid of that? Oh? Conentrave, Okay, sure, I'll get 59 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:59.000 some of that, but I want to do it my way because I don't 60 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:00.120 like the way it moves with food. I don't look to the way we 61 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:04.080 do is. And if you rewind the track back to like six years ago 62 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:11.800 whatever, when I'm in the throes of addiction and struggling through early recovery and 63 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:14.319 people are telling me what to do and how to do it, and I'm 64 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:15.920 like, no, I don't want to do that. I'll do it just 65 00:04:15.920 --> 00:04:18.319 a little bit. I'll go to your meetings, but I'm not gonna work 66 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:20.600 your steps. And then I try to work the steps and I half ask 67 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:24.839 them and I pick a sponsor who was kind of a friend, which they 68 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:28.800 say, don't do and then he relapses and I'm like, well, I 69 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:32.800 guess I can go relapse. Ah, like just stupid stuff like we're now. 70 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.000 It's like, okay, I'm gonna get off this mess. And then 71 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:41.319 what I'm just going down on some ice cream? R I will, you 72 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:46.160 know. And it's and my wife, she likes to cut these muffins. 73 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.759 They're fat on their blueberry cream cheese muffins. They're delicious. I know. 74 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:56.040 I didn't even have any last time. No, no, yesterday she made 75 00:04:56.160 --> 00:05:00.000 cheesecake, or two days ago she made cheesecake bills ready for the eating. 76 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.560 Yesterday and I had a piece, and I think that's fine. It's just 77 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:11.639 don't have half the pie half the pie, or a taco bell lunch that's 78 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:15.519 twelve dollars, but you hit the dollar menu, so you know you're sitting 79 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:17.000 here and they can't even eat anymore. I'm like, you gotta get in 80 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:23.399 my mouth because I can't waste it, dude. But I think there's a 81 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:28.480 lot of similarities though, between what I'm going through now and just being in 82 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:32.160 recovery because and that's the thing too, I've been on I've been doing this 83 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:34.279 thing for a week now or a couple of weeks, I guess, but 84 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:40.439 I want the results now. I feel the same. I look in the 85 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.759 mirror, I look the same, which is you always will, right, 86 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:46.839 because unless you don't look in the mirror for like a month and then you 87 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:48.920 look, you're like, whoa, but you're always gonna look the same. 88 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:53.279 But you look at pictures, You're like, oh, well I did lose 89 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:56.079 that, you know. But if if your clothes are still fitting the same, 90 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:02.040 you know which they are. And I'm wanting these results now. Same 91 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:05.000 thing with early recovery. And I've talked about this in the podcast before too. 92 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:09.399 It's like, give it a week, give it a two weeks. 93 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.000 You're not drinking, people are telling you, hey, good job, you 94 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.639 know, people stop inviting you to the bar. You know, in my 95 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:18.879 case, people stop bringing back donuts from westco. You know, they stopped 96 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:21.360 going, Hey, want to go to lunch and get a big old greasy 97 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:27.160 burger Justin still does it, but everybody else kind of respects the fact that 98 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:30.360 I'm trying something to do with my eating styles. But I didn't ask I 99 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:33.560 asked you what you wanted and where you wanted it from the other day, 100 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:39.839 which was respectful, and then scolded me for not bringing donuts back even though 101 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:44.439 I was being respectful to Corey's diet because I'm so fat. And I think 102 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:49.439 you hounded me before about going to Manisty and not bringing you back donuts. 103 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:55.720 I think this sounds like some early recovery selfishness happening over here. I think 104 00:06:55.800 --> 00:07:01.959 so something I don't know it might be because I was mad at you once 105 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:05.959 for not bringing donuts back from LESCo and I did, but that was back 106 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:10.519 when I was like ninety, so I was trying to get them extra ten 107 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:14.480 to get me to the three bills. But now I want to go the 108 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:15.720 other way. And like I said, man, I don't want to diabetes 109 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.319 again, and I just want to be healthy. And I got a child 110 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:21.839 on the way, and I've been thinking about this a lot too, And 111 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:27.160 this is crazy, and you guys maybe thought about this already, But when 112 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:31.319 you start thinking that your child probably will never leave your house because you're afraid 113 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:39.160 that he might get hurt. No, Justin's like, Noah didn't care. 114 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:45.399 Man, it was like I'm making another one. No thing. But was 115 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:46.519 it ever like that with you, Mitch, where you were just like I 116 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:53.360 got a protective shield around this. No. Well so yes, but not 117 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:57.639 to where I wouldn't leave the house. Very very protective of him, especially 118 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:03.160 when he was very little, and like watchdog protective. But I wanted to 119 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:05.680 take him everywhere. I took him to the store, to the mall, 120 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.959 out to the parks and just wanted to take them everywhere and do the things. 121 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:16.319 But it did not let him leave my sight until very recently. So 122 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.319 it maybe that'll change. Maybe once I hold him, I realize, oh 123 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.680 he's not that breakabawl, but he is gonna. Or maybe it's because you 124 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.000 know, Marny and I we've tried so hard and it was a long, 125 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:33.320 long journey. I mean, there's people that have had longer and harder journeys 126 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:35.639 than us. I'm not saying that other people don't, but for us, 127 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.000 it was just such a hard thing and I'm just like, oh my gosh, 128 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:43.720 like this thing, we can't break it. They don't break easy. 129 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:48.480 The hell quicker when they're young. To his peach, they bounce back. 130 00:08:52.360 --> 00:09:01.240 Yeah, don't shake him. I heard, dude, my son was God 131 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:07.240 like. They're like he she shouldn't have happened like it. I don't know 132 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:13.279 how you know what I mean? But huh, all right, Adam, 133 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:15.960 Well we'll come back to you in just a second. Adam, I didn't 134 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:18.080 know you. Just Adam just popped in for just a second and he, 135 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.399 I guess her was talking about the hall. I wanted to share something. 136 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.039 But with those little equips of wisdom. Yeah, well we'll come back to 137 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:28.639 to Adam here in a minute. But just I just look at it as 138 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:35.200 uh, and I think that it's something Jesus. Adam got me. Now 139 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.679 I'm talking like him. You get it, you know what I'm saying. 140 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:45.279 Yeah, the people in the earth, it's just she. I want to 141 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:50.960 touch on something that you said earlier in the podcast, which was all I 142 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:54.879 have to do is not eat? Yeah? Was that ever a part of 143 00:09:54.879 --> 00:10:00.519 your recovery journey with alcohol or any other substances? Yeah, I just won't 144 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:07.559 drink, Just won't drink, Just won't drink. After trying and trying and 145 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.720 trying and trying, and trying trying to finally got it. But did you 146 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.320 just not drink? Was there more to it? Them? That was way 147 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:20.120 more to it. Yeah, so that's kind of what I was getting that 148 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:28.600 whatever, just don't see that at all. Whatever you were not, But 149 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:35.759 so I should start a company, a nonprofit to help sugar addicts. Let 150 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:46.360 me ask you something, what do you put over eating record? Well, 151 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:58.720 I I mean water and started water based company. This is water Greavy. 152 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.000 We started it because I heard something about this structured water. You gets hurt 153 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:11.240 about this ice? No? Yeah, that stuff just gets thrown away. 154 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:16.320 No, we're not selling ice, especially with the recovery behind it. People 155 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:20.399 all confused recovery even buy some ice and they're like you give them a bag 156 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:26.679 of ice and I'm like, what we chop up the real little bits structured 157 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:33.080 water. Cops come by, What are you doing selling ice? Yeah? 158 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:37.919 This one's free throwing a peg and have like freeze dried first there you go, 159 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:41.399 what is that? You put it in your drink? Dumb ass? 160 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:46.759 And we get arrested. So what is structured water? No? I don't 161 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:50.639 really know too much about it, but I know it's more than ice. 162 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:54.279 No, it like how it breaks down in it because it like forms Jesus, 163 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:58.279 I'm talking like Adam again and she a hexagon again. I don't know 164 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:03.480 what I'm talking about out, but it's structured the way the water molecule breaks 165 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:05.639 down. I guess it looks like a Okay, you know a snowflake you 166 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:07.799 can't to draw. I've cut them out of paper when you're a kid in 167 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:11.240 school. That's what a piece of little water looks like. Well, you 168 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:16.159 can little piece of water. You can somehow get some smart guy somewhere to 169 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:20.120 do something to the water where it structures it, where it goes like a 170 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:24.120 hexagon or something, which is supposed to be more potent more it'll get you 171 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:31.080 more hydrated. So they alter the molecules of the water to be different and 172 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.200 it helps better. We're gonna find out because Justin, I think, is 173 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:39.519 googling it. I am, and he's gonna seen. I've seen experiments where 174 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:45.320 they put certain shaped crystals in water, and then in salt water, specifically 175 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:50.159 to show how you can program water like that. Because these people took a 176 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:56.440 petri dish and it was salt water from the ocean where most of our salt 177 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:01.440 water is, and then they put this clear where it's like pyramid shape, 178 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.240 so it was the four sided pyramid in it, and then they let the 179 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:11.759 water evaporate, and then when the water evaporated, the salt that was left 180 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:24.519 behind crystallized into these little pyramids. Hmm. And they said that's what No 181 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:33.039 way I believe you though. I mean, that kind of sounds like not 182 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:35.399 what we're talking about. But that's cool that they well, we don't know 183 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:39.240 how it works, and I'm saying it could be something along those lines, 184 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:43.440 because they say that the frequency of the crystal changes the molecule structure of the 185 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:48.360 water, and then the water remembers that to the point to where it as 186 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:54.279 it evaporates, it leaves the minerals behind in that shape. So here it 187 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.240 says what is structured water. Structured water is also known as hexagonal water. 188 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:05.679 Yeah, first two water molecules that form a hexagonal cluster. Is believed that 189 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:11.200 structured water is very similar, if not the same, as pure, untouched 190 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:20.120 and uncontaminated water found in glacier molts and natural springs. I come right in. 191 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:22.399 I am very sneaky about it. You'll be talking to someone and I'll 192 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.679 just come in and sit at my desk and just bust one out real quick. 193 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:30.600 All right. I don't think that last part was in there. If 194 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.840 there's busting out involved, I don't want to try this water, not at 195 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:39.399 all. Hmm. But it's so so wait, what's the point of it 196 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:43.639 then? So it's just regular for water. What is the point of structured 197 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:50.120 water? It says it helps to improve concentration and memory, promotes weight loss 198 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:56.200 and weight maintenance, promotes better sleep, supports a healthier immune system. That's 199 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:01.240 pain. It was easier just to look them all, Okay, so that 200 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:05.240 sounds like something I should start. We should not say looking at them all, 201 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:11.480 but we should start a structured water company. But did you hear how 202 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:16.279 where it comes from. I wasn't listening. It's just water. It's natural 203 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:22.960 spring water. So I can buy that for thirty of them for three dollars. 204 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.440 But here's the thing, because our governor and our state likes giving stuff 205 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:33.039 away, we can get the water for a fifty dollars application fee and we 206 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:35.240 get all the water we want. That's true. I would have done that, 207 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:37.879 and it's true forever ago. Now they didn't do that, okay, 208 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:41.080 and now they're given it by free bottle water. They do the same thing 209 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:46.320 in Bet Harbor. I talk about conspiracies. Hmm, well, if we 210 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:50.200 want to talk about conspiracies, I have one floating around my head about glacial 211 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:56.000 water, which is what that said. They can be in these high end 212 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.600 companies in like the Middle East, not going to throw anything out there so 213 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:04.200 targeted or anything. And put my tinfoil hat on real quick. Are paying 214 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:11.840 companies to go to the glaciers and the far north and south to get these 215 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:18.559 blue chunks of icebergs and then bringing them back and chipping them up and put 216 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:22.919 them in their drinks that their clubs and stuff and like Dubai and stuff like 217 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:29.799 that. And I'm just saying, I think the end of the human race 218 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:33.039 is going to be that one chip of ice that has that ancient virus that 219 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:38.000 nobody knows about stuck in it. Oh yeah, that saws out into somebody's 220 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:45.039 drink, and then there's patient zero. Structured water is just it's just helping 221 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.759 that. And you're saying that water's dirty. This is dirty icebergs, man. 222 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:52.759 So here's more about structured water, all right. Others believe you can 223 00:16:52.799 --> 00:17:02.440 turn regular water into structured water regular water magnetizing it through a process called vortexing, 224 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:08.440 exposing it to ultraviolet or infrared light, exposing it to natural heat and 225 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:18.000 energy such as sunlight, storing it in gemstone water bottles gemstone. See that's 226 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:22.319 what I was saying at the top. And then it also says you can 227 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:26.279 take a smooth crystal or stone and place it into a funnel, but make 228 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:32.759 sure that the hole is not completely blocked. Fill the funnel up halfway with 229 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:37.799 marbles. Pour your clean water over the marbles, which will create a vortex 230 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:44.680 effect as it runs over them, structuring the water. What, no way, 231 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:51.640 At what point do you get your magic wand involved? I don't know. 232 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:56.240 I believe this is some type of sorcery. You just pour some water 233 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:00.680 over some marbles in a crystal and it'll use a funnel and you got some 234 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:06.519 structure of water. Boys, I think we got a business. I can 235 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:11.279 do all that stuff. It basically at the one point, it says, 236 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:14.119 just put your water in a bottle with the crystal and you're good to go. 237 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:21.400 Well, it says exposing it to to sunlight vortex changes its molecule composition 238 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:26.880 and adding to UV light, we're infra red light or natural heat source such 239 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:32.319 as sunlight. I mean where you could get the versus swirl. So you 240 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:37.839 just like spend stir, just stir it up as it goes down the funnel 241 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:44.759 hits the marbles, goes into the the cup of the Jesus cup and you 242 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:49.000 just get some sun hitting it or any light if only you could get because 243 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:53.200 it's at one point, or you can just use sunlight. And if only 244 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:59.519 there was water exposed to sunlight on this planet, yeah, anywhere, So 245 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:03.839 which means every lake has structured water. So it just means it's regular water, 246 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:07.440 no man, that people have either played with or gotten out of the 247 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.200 sunlight. They're selling it like you can like out in La and stuff. 248 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.480 Well yeah, my like sleb friends, you know they buy it out there. 249 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:21.480 It's like twenty seven bucks a bottle, not thirty twenty seven Yeah, 250 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:23.799 normal bottle twelve ounce. Then you know, get you some structured water. 251 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:27.599 But but that's sex saying Elie could because we went to the grocery store and 252 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:30.759 you know how you get a little fruit cut well I'm not even really cut, 253 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:34.119 but you go to the store and they had already cut the pineapple up 254 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:37.319 for you and put in a little container. Yep, it was like fifty 255 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:41.880 bucks. What And my brother worked at the store, and he's like, 256 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:47.079 yeah, they want to keep all the peasants out. This is where like 257 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:52.160 the rich people shop. It's like, no kidding, damn, we could 258 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:56.640 make up something better. I just want to go there and sell pineapples. 259 00:19:56.680 --> 00:20:00.000 If they're buying a little piece of cut up pine, we'll just get up 260 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.400 pineapple, do the work, cut the fucker up and then sells rich people. 261 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:11.039 We could do structured money structure. What makes it structured well, the 262 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:15.400 way that we cut it copy exactly from structured waters. We only talked nice 263 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:21.039 to them while they grow. Let's take the funnel part out. I think 264 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:23.319 we'd make more money if we sold if we did a produce like that, 265 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:29.480 and it was that concept of being nicer, yelling at your your plants. 266 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:36.319 We did angry fruit because I yelled at these fruits were only cussed at and 267 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:41.720 yelled at and only had the hardest death metal plate around it. Get you 268 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:48.039 some tyrone, but with tyron what we could call it like metal fruit, 269 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:52.519 and then you could have some tyrone pineapple and all the things. So I 270 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:57.200 did take it one step farther and they you can buy two liters large pass 271 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:03.119 the hydrogen water. Pitch your maker machine? Whoa hydrogen water bottle generator? 272 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:14.119 That's how much it is, one seven dollars nine because it just puts your 273 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:19.079 normal water into something else as normal water. Did you say a bottle maker 274 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:25.319 out of hydrogen? Out of hydrogen is how it boarded it. Yeah, 275 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:30.599 hydrogen water bottle maker. So it makes hydrogen water bottles. That doesn't sound 276 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.759 right. Just so it's confused. He's like, well, I don't know 277 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:37.920 the old Shulder shrug man. I don't want to be drinking out of a 278 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:47.599 little Neurremberg or what was that the big blimp that lit on fire? That's 279 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:56.559 close's Enburghburgh? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Nuremberg is in Germany? Or 280 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:03.240 is it the Lindenberg. I'm gonna have justin looking up it. He's still 281 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.680 confused about structured water, and that's and that's how I was confused. I 282 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:10.160 was like, wait, what is this? I never heard of structured water? 283 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:14.640 But they say it's really healthy for you. Yeah, because the water, 284 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:17.960 and that's what just water does for you. So when I get home 285 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:19.400 tonight, I'm gonna I'm gonna come in. I'm gonna have a bag of 286 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:26.799 marbles, a filter like Martin. Flashlight, what are you doing? I 287 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:30.599 gotta late in my office. You could just shine into any bottle of water. 288 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:37.240 We just set it out in the sun during summertime, right, like 289 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:41.119 this is going places. Maybe the southern people are onto something with sunlight tea. 290 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:44.720 Yeah, my mom used to make that when I was a kid. 291 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:56.839 Yeah, structured tea. He just got use some of our structured water with 292 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:03.920 with tea leaves that were only swore at it refused to mix with the tea. 293 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:11.960 It's like oil and water. Yeah, drink it fast. They call 294 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:22.440 it hydrophobic. Oh that's fun. Yeah, but it's gotta be something, 295 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:30.400 man, it's gotta be something. I just have to because during back to 296 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:33.920 the back to the real talk here, but bring it back rabbit trail over 297 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:38.319 m hm. So when I quit drinking, I was on like zoloft, 298 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:42.880 but I was on very very low dose. So you know, in this 299 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:52.240 well bututrin concoction that they got me on. Now, like maybe I don't 300 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:56.880 take as much and maybe I give it another week. Maybe I stopped taking 301 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.519 the other one because I don't know if I'm supposed to be even taking that 302 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.240 one with this one, So maybe that could be the problem. We had 303 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:10.759 some fun experiences on taking multiple medications once. Yeah, can be bad. 304 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:14.400 Maybe that's what's throwing me off. But yeah, I just been thinking about 305 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:18.759 life a lot, like way too much. Do you have a therapist? 306 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:26.599 I do? Have you talked to her recently? Oh? No, maybe 307 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:30.319 you should. Yeah, that's what you guys are for some of it. 308 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:34.440 We don't specialize in therapy. No, but you can let me get it 309 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:41.400 out and figure out and then we talked to our therapists about it. Justin 310 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:47.759 and I had therapist cookies today, mental health cookies. What the mindset? 311 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:52.200 Mental health on it short, a little brain with like battle axes on the 312 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:57.400 battle like they were like dumb bulls. There was only silver on one side. 313 00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:03.240 There wasn't Yeah, there was Where are you getting those from now? 314 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:08.319 Or therapist? She gives me cookies. I guess it doesn't seem ethical. 315 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:15.039 I think they were laced with something. Most sugars what they're laced with, 316 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:21.079 and you're gonna keep coming back. They're really they're really cool looking, I 317 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:27.240 said self care. She's gonna be driving around in a van has not cookies. 318 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:36.279 Well, I don't even know if she so. Justin and I share 319 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:41.400 a therapist and we haven't talked about that on the podcast before, but she 320 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:45.039 wanted me to take him one because she was afraid that her cookies were going 321 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:49.759 to be gone by the time he came in for his his session. So 322 00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:56.519 that's how that all went down. Okay, So do you like your therapist? 323 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.799 I do. Yeah, she's amazing. Have you read to draw Google? 324 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.880 No, that's a good idea. I should, It's a very good 325 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:08.599 idea. I'm not a Google raider. I don't rate anything on Google. 326 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:15.039 I'm a local guide. So you keep getting them cookies? Mitch, you 327 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.559 throw that rating out there? Would you rate her a five star? I 328 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.759 would? Yeah. Let's pretend you're a Google raider justin you're about ready to 329 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.279 rate, and you're going over there with your little mouse and how many stars 330 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:32.720 are getting there? To wait? You take Susan with you? Three? 331 00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:37.960 I think you met the computer? And yeah, moving a little arrow thing 332 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:42.920 over it? Cursor? How many kicking on? Thank you? Five? 333 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:48.160 Five? And what are you writing in the comments? Wait? Even better? 334 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.440 Yet? What gift you're thrown up? I'm not a gift user. 335 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.359 Oh, I'm a gift user. I love gifts. Okay, what gift 336 00:26:55.359 --> 00:27:00.440 would you throw up? I try to find something, maybe a dinosaur with 337 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:04.240 some hearts over it's like like going like in a rainbow fashion over the head, 338 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:10.799 maybe holding a cookie, because that's part of it. Rainbows. Yeah, 339 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:14.359 okay, why a dinosaur. That's the first thing that keep to my 340 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:17.960 mind. That's how I do my gift, and that's what you should do, 341 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:19.680 and that's how that's how I rate your guys' blogs. You know, 342 00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.480 you write a blog, I read it, and then I just throw a 343 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.640 gift on it. Yeah. Sometimes it's confusing, probably, and sometimes it's 344 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.240 pretty funny. I think sometimes it has something to do with what we write 345 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.960 about, and sometimes it has to do with how we know you feel about 346 00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.839 it. And nobody's gonna understand it. I'm like, I put his hand 347 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.960 on his head, going, oh, Justin's got a few of those. 348 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:44.400 Those are the early days though. But yeah, all right, so pretend 349 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.559 you are a giffer. You're gonna throw a gift on it justin you rate 350 00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:53.160 it or five stars, a nice big heart m it might be inappropriate and 351 00:27:53.559 --> 00:28:00.319 say that's I think that's past. You have things you get like therapist patient 352 00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:06.839 ethics. Yeah, no, not at all. It's a big red heart. 353 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:08.599 I love you? Doesn't that? Doesn't that what that means? Or 354 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:14.839 no, what does a big red heart mean to you? Justin? Someone 355 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.160 who cares? Does it mean to you? Mitch? Love? That's what 356 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.480 it means to me too. Yeah, I think that's what it means to 357 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:25.839 like ninety nine percent of everybody and the earth. Like you can ask somebody 358 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.839 from China who's speaking of Englis, what does this mean? He'd be like, 359 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.559 oh, he would do like a couple of different emotions, probably with 360 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:41.759 hip thrust. Some of those might be in there. That a big warm 361 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.279 heart. I didn't say a red heart. Well, you want it to 362 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.400 be warm, especially we go down that. Okay, what color is this 363 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.319 heart than? Justin? I don't know green. I would say, if 364 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.519 you don't want affections warm heart, I'd say, if you don't want an 365 00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:02.799 affectionate heart, like the physical action. He's googling what colors don't mean? 366 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.119 Love about yellow for friendship? There you go, buddy, Okay, I 367 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:15.759 don't know colored deforations. It's very progressive color though. Hey, on Valentine's 368 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.119 Day cards? Did you ever have to make them in school? Justin? 369 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:22.240 M your kid remember that? Can you remember? Let's go back to those 370 00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:27.119 days. Yeah, Okay, remember they're like, here's here's your piece of 371 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.359 paper, and you gave them all to everybody in class. So does that 372 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:34.680 mean that you loved everybody in class? I want you to design one with 373 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:40.000 hip thrust for your mom. Here's here's a pin, here's an empty piece 374 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:41.160 of paper, and now draw a card for her. What are you gonna 375 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:49.720 draw? Heart? The hip thrust heart started for me in like sixth grade. 376 00:29:53.240 --> 00:30:03.119 Dang, that's crazy considering how you were homeschooled. So you yeah, 377 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.319 church girls, man, wild, let's talk about church girls from it. 378 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:15.680 Yeah. We were talking about that the other day because there was a situation 379 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.079 that came up and I was like, man, this is like because again 380 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:25.240 I'm thinking way, I'm thinking way too far ahead with Parker who's not even 381 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:26.519 born yet, and I'm like, oh, when he gets older, Like, 382 00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.599 is he going to be the rebel? You know, his mom and 383 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.920 dad are in recovery, They work in recovery, They talk about recovery all 384 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:38.119 the time. Is he going to be like the preacher's daughter? You know, 385 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.559 the footloose is gonna run round dancing everywhere? What a sceptred place, 386 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:47.880 having sex with dancing everywhere? I remember this conversation. What spurred you to 387 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.160 have these thoughts? I don't know, man, is the stuff I'm on? 388 00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:53.720 Oh no, no, no no. It was a very specific situation 389 00:30:55.279 --> 00:31:00.759 that's happening with with my son. Yeah, yeah, well I was thinking 390 00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.119 about this before that, but then when that happened to you, it was 391 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:04.880 like, yeah, it's the same thing, man, I was thinking about 392 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.119 that the other day. It's about, you know, how is it going 393 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:12.000 to be like the preacher's daughter. You know, she supposedly is like the 394 00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.279 easy one around town? Now? Is he going to run out and be 395 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:19.240 the druggie? Like whatever? Man, my parents do that. I guess 396 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:26.039 what I'm rebel neck tattoo, a little baggies in his pocket. M M. 397 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.720 You know there was something similar. I don't know. Talk about it 398 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:34.200 if you want to talk about it. I don't know. Oh yeah, 399 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:38.799 that's fine. Are you talking about what I think you're talking about? You 400 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:44.960 guys want to know something readily personal about Mitch's family? Sure, Okay, 401 00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.680 which one are we going into? You guys know way too much? Well, 402 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.519 the one that just happened. Yeah. I got to administer my first 403 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:59.839 drug test the first times in my life where I wasn't the testee. Wait, 404 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:08.119 it was a tester. You're gonna turn that into a drop. So 405 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:17.799 get a call from the middle school here in town this week, and somebody 406 00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:27.920 at the school got found with vape we'ed pen vape pen weed, marijuana in 407 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:35.039 their pocket. And then somebody was my fourteen year old son, ouch, 408 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.559 I got your ass two jobs because you can't ride. She us that one. 409 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:45.480 You know, at least you only got a phone call from the school. 410 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:50.799 I remember being in school years ago. It wasn't just a phone call 411 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:55.599 from the school we got. There's typically the school cop that got involved. 412 00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.720 Yeah, and then you had to go to court. I think it was 413 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.319 a little last got lucky, is what happened. And it fell out of 414 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:07.279 his pocket, and then everybody in the gym, they were in the gym 415 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:15.000 at the time went similar. They're all like, that's not mine, including 416 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.799 him, And then the tape got rolled back after the school day because it 417 00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.359 was the last hour or whatever, and then they went, oh, it 418 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.799 fell out of his pocket, and so then it was the next day. 419 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:31.400 So I don't know if there's like a statue of limitations on well, you 420 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.160 know, I mean, like that kind of a thing. Like it wasn't 421 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.519 the same day, so they didn't. It is in as much trouble but 422 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:45.000 suspension all that. It was interesting. Go ahead, just real quick question. 423 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.720 How do they know it's a wee vape? Well, my theory is 424 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.440 that the vice principal is the one who is talking to me, is supplying 425 00:33:52.480 --> 00:34:01.440 them for the children. Whoa and this kid, my kid is the one 426 00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:06.279 who got caught with it. So you had to make a what do they 427 00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:10.320 call that example? Make an example out of him and and be like all 428 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.000 the other kids that are that are buying them from him. And he's like, 429 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:15.119 you ain't get no more. If you're gonna act like this kid, 430 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:21.440 why would he like like call out the people he's selling to. Man, 431 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:25.920 that's the thing is wants them to be smarter, repond. He's not going 432 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:29.599 to sell me out otherwise, I'm not gonna give you any more, little 433 00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.280 guy. He's like, I'm not giving you guys any more drugs if you're 434 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.960 gonna be stupid and have them in your pocket while you're bouncing around in gym 435 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:42.039 class. Yeah, yeah, I see. That's where the example came in, 436 00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.679 and we kind of bring it down to you how it really went down 437 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:47.719 you're like I had enough of this, and he just like walked away. 438 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.880 Like we were like breaking down, like you having grand children and everything, 439 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:57.000 and what kind of swinging parties happen when you're here at work and helping people 440 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:02.440 in their recovery. What's really going down at Mitch's pad? Yeah, yeah, 441 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.079 yeah, all kinds of stuff, man, I'm telling you. And 442 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:12.280 then I just don't understand how they can suspend a kid because that's what he 443 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:14.960 wants, like he does not care. Yeah, I'm like, put him 444 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.760 in a chain gang, keep him for the weekend. I don't do something. 445 00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.440 Put his ass in basketball, make his ass stark. He sucks, 446 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.559 but there you go. He is part black. He'd probably be good at 447 00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:30.679 it, and you're not. You're not coming out of the game at allest 448 00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.920 hate that. Yeah, I mean I asked him how he felt though. 449 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.199 I was like, so, did you think that you're going to have to 450 00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:44.960 do because every once in a while, in like three or four times a 451 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:46.119 year, I can't remember what he said, they have to do these things 452 00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:51.920 called pace tests, and they're in gym where they time them running back and 453 00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:54.199 forth in the gym. That's something that they do all the time and he 454 00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:58.079 didn't know that this was happening that day, and I was like, oh, 455 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.559 so you decided to have your weep we need vape pen on you the 456 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:05.679 day that you were going to be just sprinting across the gym and back. 457 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:12.880 And he dresses like justin so he's always in sweats. Yeah. I was 458 00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.480 like, so, did that creep up on you or did you know that 459 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:17.840 was gonna happen, because I was like, let's talk about intelligence for a 460 00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:22.719 minute. And he's like, yeah, no, I didn't know it was 461 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:27.039 gonna happen. And I was like, I would hope so because it was 462 00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.360 stupid, and just take your wead vape to school because it's so hard at 463 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:35.119 school you need to be high well. And then this kid, I've heard 464 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:40.079 that from people before, you know, my degenerate friends that peer pressured me 465 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:45.760 and to start drinking and stuff. That's what they said about school. And 466 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:51.000 I wouldn't know because I was mostly homeschooled, and when I was in public 467 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:52.800 school, it was only for a couple of years, and I was a 468 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.679 goodie goody back then, so it was before I ever got into any kind 469 00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:01.599 of substances or anything. But this kid, heve the when I talked to 470 00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:07.559 the vice principal, he did the I'm holding it for a friend excuse. 471 00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:15.440 And I even asked the principal like did you believe that? Yeah? Yeah, 472 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.239 and he's like, well the way he said it to me, And 473 00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:24.320 I'm like seriously, like really, and then you're just gonna send him home 474 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:29.199 so he can like not have to come to school, like he doesn't want 475 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:35.960 to be at school. So I don't know, maybe she consider the alternative 476 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:39.119 school for him. I've talked to him about it, but I think you, 477 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.079 like you said, they get smoke breaks, I can't put him there. 478 00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.159 Well, they used to in my school days. I don't think they 479 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:50.719 allow that anymore. They don't want to sit down and make them smoke the 480 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:57.360 whole pin. I thought about coming in and tell and you guys, he's 481 00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.559 like, did what my dad would have done and smoked a whole back of 482 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.320 cigarettes, made him smoke the whole pen. But no, they did confiscate 483 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:09.639 it. So you know, it's fifteen bucks I'll never get back. Well, 484 00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.599 in some theory, you probably did give him the money to buy it, 485 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:19.480 Yeah, Christmas money or something, lunch money. Do you get him 486 00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.519 lunch money? Not anymore used to he probably stole it from his mom when 487 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:27.000 he was downstate. It's possible. I want to put me put it past 488 00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:31.119 her. So so now justin pegs him as a thief. See, well 489 00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:37.039 we've had those issues in the past, two stereotypes. Once he starts using 490 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.280 drugs, now he's a thief. Well, I know back in my day, 491 00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:43.639 when I was in high school making you grand five, I wouldn't think 492 00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:49.159 twice about going through my mom's room trying to find her bag weed. Did 493 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:53.239 you ever find anything else in there? No? That's what it scared me 494 00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:59.360 more was But I can tell you there was a handful of times that my 495 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:06.679 mom came up him to know weed and left. M hmm. My mom 496 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:10.679 had common her perse sometimes, but no weed anything like that. My dad 497 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:14.599 was the pothead in our house, but I don't think he kept it in 498 00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:20.960 the house. So so again, and he had said something to your drug 499 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:27.480 dealing vice principal that my dad is gonna be so pissed because he works for 500 00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.519 a recovery organization. Yeah, he goes, my dad works at a recovery 501 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.480 center. He's gonna be he's gonna kill me. Why didn't he just say 502 00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:38.559 two to seventeen recovery. He probably wants to have to get the name out 503 00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:50.320 there. Maybe you should consider sending him to a teenager's rehab after for one 504 00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:55.000 one run in Yeah, I like I can play basketball's Yeah, he'd hate 505 00:39:55.000 --> 00:40:00.519 it to be perfect. He hates going to class, set, doesn't like 506 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:04.119 to wake up in the morning. I mean, what better way some as 507 00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.760 I asked, a boot camp? Right? More? Can't learn here military 508 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:17.239 they used to say shape up or ship out. So we're gonna send him 509 00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:20.880 to NOM. Let's go back to how this started. What are you gonna 510 00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:25.719 do with Parker someday? I don't know. I just hope that it doesn't 511 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:29.920 happen, you know, and the conversations that we're gonna have with him, 512 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.719 and seeing your son's seen it firsthand, he's seen it, we would just 513 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:37.719 be a mess, you know. He knows what that life goes to. 514 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:43.159 And again it goes back to something we've all said, not gonna happen to 515 00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.440 me. Oh yeah, it happened to him at least. Stupid. I'm 516 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.239 not gonna let it get that far. I'm going to stop it before it 517 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:53.599 gets that far. Well, and I had an issue when an issue, 518 00:40:53.840 --> 00:41:00.880 like when I was fifteen, my grandmother was hitting held by a drunk driver 519 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.840 and I was there and I saw it happen, and so that put me 520 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:10.000 throughout my entire teenage years. The rest of them, I hated anything they 521 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:15.400 had to do with any kind of addiction or alcohol or anything. And then 522 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.360 I turned nineteen and all of a sudden, peer pressure gets involved and I 523 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.880 start making those decisions. Because I don't want to make it sound like I 524 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.159 blame those people for doing it, because I made the choice, that was 525 00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:30.760 my choice back then to do it. But it was so easy for me 526 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:36.800 to flip fop from completely hating anything to do with any kind of substance use 527 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.480 to just being right in it and getting hooked. It was so easy. 528 00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.960 I'm thinking, that's something genius here. Is it better than the structured water? 529 00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.440 I don't know anything's better than that. That's a pretty good idea, 530 00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:57.559 no if. Okay, So you were talking about peer pressure and there's like 531 00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.960 this group of kids in school or at homeschool. I'm not sure how that 532 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:05.239 works on the block that are just so cool because I don't know, it 533 00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:07.679 just looks so cool that they're doing these drugs, they're smoking these cigarettes, 534 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:13.239 drinking these beers. They're so cool. What can we make that's like cool? 535 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.519 Or how do we make that uncool? Justin I have a button that 536 00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:23.880 can hit you gotta do the thing I forgot? It just takes it right 537 00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:30.719 off. But how could we make it? Because Okay, if we're watching 538 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:32.000 a movie I'm trying to think of we're watching a movie, We're like, 539 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.519 Oh, we don't want to be like that guy. Damn you to your 540 00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:39.960 microphone? What's going on? You guys kicked it accident? So like what 541 00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:43.639 do we watch that We're like, I don't want to be like that guy? 542 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:46.920 Like, how do we take that and put that into young kids minds? 543 00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:55.360 Do we have Taylor Swift saying about it? It might be in our 544 00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:01.239 budget? Got I have a week go for Cardi B and just say, 545 00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:05.840 don't you don't want to be like this kid's Yeah, because they think she's 546 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:10.079 cool because she's rapping about stabbing men and robbing people and stripping wops and stuff. 547 00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:19.320 Yeah, selling booty. Well. And that's the thing that I've noticed 548 00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:22.679 with my son too, is it's the opposite of what dad is is what 549 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.760 he wants to be doing. So he was super against it too. Back 550 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:30.400 when I was in my active addiction and now I'm not. I'm in the 551 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:32.480 recovery world. So now he's starting to flip flop to the other side, 552 00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:42.639 and it's it's a difficult tightrope to walk, and it's even easier when you 553 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.239 have somebody so close to you that just says, well, just beat his 554 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.000 ass, it'll be fine. That's what I needed when I was younger. 555 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:53.280 Yeah, So what kind of cigarettes does he like? Red's Marboro's. I 556 00:43:53.280 --> 00:44:00.440 taught him, right, Okay, that was this gateway drug. That's why 557 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.800 my cigarette. When I was like five or six, I was walking to 558 00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:07.440 preschool. I said that, right, I was walking to preschool by yourself. 559 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.880 My brother who was in kindergarten, he was there with me. You 560 00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.320 had the responsible one. Yeah, And my neighbor, Scott Hobson, was 561 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.039 like, oh, yeah, I got a cigarette and I was like, 562 00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:20.639 cool, I want one, and I took a hit, cough my ass 563 00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.639 off. I was like, that's not fun, but I tried it. 564 00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:27.639 So that was my gateway drug. And then years later, but alcohol was 565 00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:31.079 more my gateway drug. And I only tried weed because I was tired of 566 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:38.639 the hangovers and the shits that Red dog beer gave us. I don't know 567 00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:42.960 if I ever tried red dog. Yeah, I don't even know what I 568 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:47.000 can honestly say. I started drinking before I started smoking weed. And you're 569 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:50.519 just like they're like, hey, man, like your pie heading buddies are 570 00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.639 like this, you don't get a little like fucking hungover and stuff, and 571 00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:57.519 you're like no, And then finally you're like, okay, let me try 572 00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:59.559 it. You're like, well, that's cool. Then you get busted, 573 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:01.639 and back in my day when we was illegal, then you gotta go on 574 00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:05.320 probation for a year. So that's why I was asking, Well, Justin 575 00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.199 and I were talking about this yesterday, like, is it just the same 576 00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.920 as getting caught with a pack of smokes? Like you know, for us 577 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:14.880 back in the day, it's been fifty dollars fine or something, But is 578 00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.239 that like, what's the punishment for that now? You know, like back 579 00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:22.760 in the day, he would the cops would have been involved because he's got 580 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:28.480 a marijuana pin and marijuana is legal still is federally. I guess you should 581 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:32.079 call the FBI. Yeah, get this little guy, and they'll shut my 582 00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:36.960 podcast down. That's fine though, because you can always start a new one, 583 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:42.440 right, I should call it the real name. Like this guy's showing, 584 00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.400 like this kid's showing signs of not good, just to put him away. 585 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:54.559 Now, I don't know, because like even with the other the regular 586 00:45:54.639 --> 00:46:00.639 vapes and stuff, he would always down his buddies and tell him that they 587 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:07.000 were not cool when he caught them with vapes and stuff and because they were 588 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:12.960 not vaping weed. I guess, so just vaping flavored stuff. Yeah, 589 00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:16.239 like why would I do that? You do that? I'm like, we 590 00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:22.119 just do stuff. I do want the weed in it, right because Stephanie 591 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:28.719 likes it. And Stephanie skipschool on Friday. So my dad say, we're 592 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:35.920 doing podcasts, we're making babies. This little girlfriend lives in town, so 593 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:42.039 exactly right, Well, we live out of town. You have to figure 594 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.199 out a way, well only long distance babies where her older brother is going 595 00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.920 to sell a vape pin to homeboy and make some cash on it so you 596 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.480 can drop a little sister off. It's kind of like pimping a little bit, 597 00:46:52.920 --> 00:47:02.719 right, exactly. Yep, yep, it's exactly like pimpin'. You 598 00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.599 know, ask him how his little wiener works, Like you know how that 599 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.519 works, buddy, Let me show you. You know, I would never 600 00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.400 say it like that because, uh, I don't want to end up on 601 00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:22.119 a list. Yeah, I end up on what list? The pedophile list? 602 00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:28.119 Justin rolls his eyes. Yeah, it's so right. If you're already 603 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.519 on it, I get it, but I don't want there. I'm not 604 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:37.639 out of it. But but you have to have those talks. Right when 605 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:39.920 we have those talks, he goes, Dad, They did they talked that 606 00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:45.079 to me in school? Yeah, well, they're not teaching anything else, 607 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:52.119 so they would do their job. But where did those where they DARE That's 608 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:58.000 what it was McGruff, the crime dog and all that. Would they do 609 00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.239 that anymore? Well, they probably figured they're not effective. Yeah, nobody 610 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.960 knows what DARE even means anymore. I don't remember what it is. No, 611 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:14.719 drugs are really easy, right, I don't know nobod I remember the 612 00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:21.760 DARE officer breaking in the case of drug paraphernalia and asking, do any of 613 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:30.199 your parents have any of this at home with the kids. Yeah, that's 614 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.840 how they got you. Yeah, and then they would go to your parents' 615 00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:40.239 house. What your kids says, you're using illicit drugs? Well, I 616 00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:45.000 remember when they came into the the tech school I was in when I was 617 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:50.440 a junior, and there we had this one kid from the public school that 618 00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:52.719 was there, and every time they would they would mention a drug. He 619 00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:59.199 would like under his breath, list off all of the street names for it. 620 00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:02.239 Eesventually they had to be like, dude, you stop it, Bradley, 621 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:07.280 you need to stop. Well, he's smart, I mean, at 622 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:13.719 least he's telling straight names. These kids know that methodphetamines is called ice, 623 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.360 so they're like, oh, you want some ice. He's like, no, 624 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:22.119 that's methamphetamine. And he's like, you didn't even talk about whippets or 625 00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:28.800 anything. That's what else says he tried? Did he what? Do he 626 00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:30.559 tests positive for? Just the weed? Just it? Yeah, just the 627 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:37.400 weed. So that was that was an interesting experience for me too, so 628 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:43.320 because, like I said, I've only ever been on the tested side of 629 00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:47.440 it, not the tester, So that was interesting. And then he leaves 630 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:51.599 the conversation. He goes, I've taken a drug test. Now, I'm 631 00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:55.199 like, this isn't a write of passage, you little ship like it's serious. 632 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.599 He's cool, Garret straight you think that works? I I think it 633 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.400 would for him. That's what Justin was kind of hinting at earlier. I 634 00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:07.800 think, yeah, m hmm, well if it made him stand out in 635 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:13.440 front of our building with a sign just that stupid shit like we change it 636 00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:16.360 every hour. Well, you know. The sad part is though, really 637 00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:25.880 our society has normalized weed so much that it's appealing to these kids. You 638 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:34.760 know, all these different flavors, babes, dabs, edibles. Now chocolate's 639 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.880 got weed and feuse it'll make your body tingle you No, I gotta think 640 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.800 twice every time I look at a gummy bear. It's terrible. I mean, 641 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:47.360 it's really sad that we've taken this industry this far and they're not educating 642 00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:57.239 anybody on it because they were kids, probably wouldn't be trying it. I 643 00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:01.400 don't know. I think they still their kids. And it's the way it 644 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.960 is because we were educating kids on it back in the day and there were 645 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.239 still kids. We were smoking weed. You know, I didn't smoke weed 646 00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:14.519 right away, but and then it's funny the guy smoke a joint with for 647 00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:19.000 the first time. He I can't even say because I don't want to get 648 00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.920 arrested. Let's just say that I'll tell you guys off the air, But 649 00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:28.840 where did he put it? You know, it's where her bricks. Now, 650 00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:32.000 I don't want any he would, Yeah, you could come through the 651 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:37.880 window right now. I had an interesting situation when I was younger too where 652 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:45.639 we're part of a party bust and I they were handing out mips to everybody 653 00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:52.800 involved, and I should have been charged back then with providing or whatever it 654 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:59.840 is for minors twenty one and I was the only one over twenty one and 655 00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:04.599 my best friend it was his house, lied his ass off, saying no, 656 00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.880 he just got here, he just needed a place to stay. My 657 00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:10.480 girlfriend at the time was one of the ones getting an MIP, and these 658 00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:15.039 cops somehow they must not have cared. But there was like good cop, 659 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:19.159 bad cop, and it was really it was. It was serious cop, 660 00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.239 not serious cop, because the one kid looks at the cops and goes, 661 00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:28.159 so, what happens, Like how much trouble do I get into when I 662 00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:31.760 get an MP and the one cops who's administering it's like, you know, 663 00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:36.519 you have to call the and like call the number and do that book. 664 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.079 The other guy goes, well, when I got mine, it was only 665 00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:44.199 like a hundred bucks, and that's about it don't matter, and the other 666 00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:46.400 guy and the one cop look he looks at him, He's like, seriously, 667 00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:55.679 dude, shut up. I still remember the first joint I ever smoked. 668 00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:01.559 I just started my freshman year of high school in a new town and 669 00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:05.840 I was a cigarette smoker at the time. So I walked in. They're 670 00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.519 like, oh, new kid, you want to go smoke. I didn't 671 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:12.719 know what to talk about. I figure cigarettes, and I was like sure. 672 00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:20.800 We went out to the dugout at the baseball field and we proceeded to 673 00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:24.639 smoke a joint and I didn't know what the hell it was at first. 674 00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.760 Cool story, bro, I know it wasn't it. Yeah, that's a 675 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:34.159 very cool story. And so now your kid's gonna listen to this podcast and 676 00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:37.639 go well, Justin was talking about remembering his first time. Corey said he 677 00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.840 smoked your Joy with somebody who he came to say his name or his job. 678 00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:46.280 Were come busting through the windows at the office here. That's how badass 679 00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:53.000 that guy is. And uh, they're just fine, he's never gonna listen 680 00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:55.880 to this. You used to guarantee you used to smoke weed, dad, 681 00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:01.039 Yeah, Like, how can you judge me for that? Dad just doing 682 00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:04.800 the same stuff you did. You know, me and my daughters had this 683 00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:09.280 conversation. And because she's like thirteen and a half, she's been caught with 684 00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:14.719 a vape last year in school nicktine vape. I was like, you know, 685 00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:20.280 it starts out simple and small, and it just progressively gets worse over 686 00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:23.719 time. I was like, you know, it could be a couple months 687 00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:27.280 from now, it could be a couple of years from now. You're gonna 688 00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.519 end up doing stuff you would have never thought you were gonna do and spiral 689 00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:39.320 out of control. Some grandkids. Yeah, it's just so much. Him 690 00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:44.239 and I had a really transparent talk about I mean, at least on my 691 00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:52.000 side of things. It was talk about addiction. And I don't like the 692 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:57.400 genetically predisposed thing, but I do know that it is a factor, and 693 00:54:57.480 --> 00:54:59.480 I just, you know, I had to talk to him about it, 694 00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:04.239 like, you know, you come from me and I've had addiction issues. 695 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:09.000 Your grandfather, my father had addiction issues. Both of your great grandparents on 696 00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:13.480 my side of the family have had addiction issues. I'm like, I know, 697 00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:16.480 your mother isn't great with stuff like that, and your grandmother on that 698 00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:22.679 side isn't great with stuff like that, and you have to be super and 699 00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:24.679 this is none of the stuff with stuff that my parents talked to me about. 700 00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:30.559 We got walls and said don't do this. And if there was ever 701 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.679 a y involved, it was because I told you so, it's not good, 702 00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:38.440 don't do it. There was never a reason or a lesson or anything 703 00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:43.639 taught about it. So I wanted to really actually talk to him about more. 704 00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:47.840 I'm worried about it. And do you remember a couple of years ago 705 00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.559 and what I was going through And I'm like, yeah, that's not weed, 706 00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:59.519 But do you remember when we lived with Grandpa that was partially weed, 707 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:05.840 you know, And and it can get really really serious. And it started 708 00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:08.360 for us when we were young. You know. I was a little bit 709 00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:12.199 older than he was, but my dad was younger than he is when he 710 00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:20.199 started. And like, it holds on to you, dude, that my 711 00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:27.239 son was God Like They're like, she shouldn't have happened like it. I 712 00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:31.079 don't know how, you know what I mean, Like, but his dad 713 00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:37.320 didn't have that conversation with him either, No evident And now there are actually 714 00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:42.360 recovery groups where they smoke weed and a lot of people call it California sober. 715 00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:46.599 Yeah, so Dad, like you could do the whole age thing. 716 00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:52.639 I guess, I don't know, Like there's wet houses, you know. 717 00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:55.360 Oh yeah, people come over here and drink, and people say they're in 718 00:56:55.360 --> 00:57:00.920 recovery. Some people do. Remember that louder Milk episode or out of town 719 00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:04.480 justin crack your knuckles again, just break your face. That feel better? 720 00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.199 Yeah, okay, just forget about that microphone. It doesn't pick up noises 721 00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.639 or anything. So, yeah, louder Milk or whatever. They were out 722 00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:14.079 of town and they go to they hit a couple of meetings. In one 723 00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.039 of them, they're just a bunch of people drinking with each other. They 724 00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:22.000 start talking about the whole recovery. Is this state of mind or whatever? 725 00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:28.320 You can't you know just because I'm basically it was talking about being in the 726 00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:31.559 middle of a relapse and he's drinking Martini in the middle of and I think 727 00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:35.880 it was a jab at stuff like that is what they were getting at the 728 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:42.000 in the TV show. And I have a little brain here from pine Rest. 729 00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:45.000 It's a little what do they call these stress balls, But it's a 730 00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:49.159 brain. This is your brain, and this is my brain, and this 731 00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.320 is my brain I weed, and my brain will say not good enough. 732 00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:58.079 You need the alcohol, right, Yeah, you go back to and I 733 00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:00.519 don't know if I've talked about it on this podcast, but I talk about 734 00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:04.320 it next door when I talk at the detox Is. I compare it to 735 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.559 ice cream. If I just came up and I was like, hey, 736 00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:13.519 Mitch, hey, justin here's an ice cream cone. It's delicious, and 737 00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:15.679 you guys eat it and you're like, damn, that's pretty good. I 738 00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:19.280 like it. And then you come back and me and you have another ice 739 00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:21.519 cream cone. The next week and you see me and I'm eating a turtle 740 00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.519 blizzard. You guys are like, what is that. I'm like, oh 741 00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:28.000 man, this is a turtle blizzard. You can't have. This is so 742 00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:30.719 much better than the ice cream cone, you know, but this ice cream 743 00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:32.559 cone is the shit. I'm like, well here, just here, I 744 00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:36.320 give you guys, like a little mini turtle Sundays, you know, or 745 00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:38.719 a little mini turtle Blizzards. You guys go to town a light, You're 746 00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:42.760 like, fuck, that's so much better than the ice cream cone. That's 747 00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.239 awesome. Then the next week you come back and I hand you an ice 748 00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:49.519 cream cone. You're gonna look at me like, no, I want the 749 00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:52.559 turtle blizzard and give me up that size. Okay, they give me a 750 00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:54.719 medium, They're like, man, I eat that medium so quick. The 751 00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:58.039 next week you come back and you're like, give me a large. Next 752 00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:05.400 thing, you know, you're three hundred pound bitching about contrave and he's just 753 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:07.719 trying to lose some weight. And you realize, maybe I just don't eat 754 00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.760 so much. I don't know, Yeah, just stop eating. But it's 755 00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:14.119 the same thing to me, you know. And that's what it is for 756 00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:15.760 me. And sure, I could go smoke weed, and well that means 757 00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:20.920 I'm not in recovery the way I look at recovery yet would And I know 758 00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:25.599 for a fact because I've tried it. I cannot just smoke weed. I 759 00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:31.559 just can't. My brain has already progressed to the turtle blizzard, right. 760 00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:36.119 I cannot just go back to the cone. Another thing I've noticed in my 761 00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:43.599 family is every other generation it's a different substance. And for my kid, 762 00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.719 I'm not saying there's a problem. This is a one time thing that's happened 763 00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:52.800 so far. I'm trying to keep it at that. But it's THCHC weed, 764 00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:58.639 marijuana. Me it was alcohol. My dad was more weed marijuana. 765 00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.360 I mean he had issue with alcohol too, but his biggest one was the 766 01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:10.039 weed. His dad was all alcohol. So it's weird. It like slinkies 767 01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:16.239 back and forth. Just seen it coming as your son told you about his 768 01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:21.760 porn addiction. Uh no, but it won't surprise me either because pretty much 769 01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:24.159 every me and every one of my brothers have dealt with that too. See. 770 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:28.119 And that's something that's scary. And I'm not just kidding when I say 771 01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:32.480 that, because it is scary because they say it just it really desensitizes. 772 01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:39.679 He destroys your ability for any kind of actual intimacy. Yeah, and when 773 01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:42.800 you get a girl, you can't be like, oh, go grab your 774 01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:45.000 three friends and go jump in the dryer, you know, like I'm gonna 775 01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:49.519 get you out of there. It's the thing I think. Justin and I 776 01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:51.960 he's laughing, He's like, yeah, they're getting stuck in drivers. It's 777 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:53.760 so stupid. I thought I had been to most other corners of the internet. 778 01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:57.719 I haven't seen that one. Yeah, I heard the comedian talking about 779 01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:02.400 it. Who went and saw that. Ye. Shout out to Mary Santora, 780 01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.039 Yeah, shout out to her. She's funny, but that's what she 781 01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:13.320 was saying, you know, So it makes it hard for them kids to 782 01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:19.360 understand intimacy or whatever. And back when I was sneaking playboys, you know, 783 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.840 when I was a kid, Playboy is way different. You see in 784 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:27.599 the lady parts, you know, but to see full blown, like just 785 01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:30.039 two clicks of your phone and you got it. He's probably sitting in the 786 01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:37.920 same room with you, just watching all kinds of dryers getting stuck and washing 787 01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:49.000 machines, and it's like, yeah, it's not even are you okay a 788 01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:54.119 little flush? Just laughing? Man, you don't even need to see it. 789 01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:58.280 You just have to come right in. I'm very sneaky about it. 790 01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:00.440 You'll be talking to someone and I'll just come in, sit at my desk 791 01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:06.039 and just bust went out real quick. Yeah. Yeah, And that's why 792 01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:12.719 I don't clean in the Recovery Coaches office anymore. Be careful. It's just 793 01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:15.639 and that's all. Part of it goes back to me being worried about Parker 794 01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:19.559 and I see what you guys are coming through, and I'm just like, 795 01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:22.360 what the hell do I let him out of the house? Ever? Well, 796 01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:25.280 see, and I've seen the flip side of the coin is I was 797 01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:32.519 so sheltered that I figured out how to get to the porn stuff and just 798 01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:39.159 made it happen. And when I got out from underneath that shelter umbrella, 799 01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:44.400 that's when as soon as a substance was handed to me, it's like I 800 01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:46.239 had to try it, and especially if it was one that was talking to 801 01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:51.119 me about not doing it, and then there was nothing else explain to me 802 01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:53.519 about it, like no, it's bad, Well why because they said so, 803 01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:58.320 okay, well let me go find out why. Yeah, and now 804 01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:04.360 you can't stop me, and it just it snowball. See I lived in 805 01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:10.119 very unsheltered life and I still ended up horribly. Yeah, it ends up 806 01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:15.039 that you're gonna have to learn for yourself no matter what I mean, you 807 01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:16.880 can try life. That's how we do it, right, I mean, 808 01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:21.079 you could try to the best of your ability. But I don't believe in 809 01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:25.239 sheltering someone's gonna make him any better in life than just telling him the way 810 01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:31.599 life is and s. When I was in fourth grade, I sold a 811 01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:36.920 bag of salt to my neighbor and told me this cocaine, and I told 812 01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:37.840 me he had to do a little bit in front of me. So I 813 01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:43.159 knew that he wasn't a cop, and he did and he started crying and 814 01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:46.719 he ran home. He was so pissed off because he made him do drugs 815 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:51.320 or because it was solid. I guess it burned. I guess it burned 816 01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:54.239 like an mfort. Yeah. Why he wouldn't taste it, I don't know. 817 01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:57.800 And if he would have had have been like does what tastes like? 818 01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:02.280 Got it from my stepbrother? But like what if like we sent kids down 819 01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:06.840 and like the pure stuff is like it's just it's really just salt to try 820 01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:11.039 some drugs sugar, yeah, and then you just give them vinegar. This 821 01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:15.000 is what a beer tastes like, you know, like why would you drink 822 01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:21.920 that? But that's not far off. You know, here's marijuana. It's 823 01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:30.880 already nasty. It makes you feel and like give them some uh was that 824 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:35.119 something cleans out? Give them some laxatives? Here you go, it's a 825 01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:42.679 marijuana. It's a gummy eat it. It's a little those chocolate laxative pills 826 01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:47.639 on like a muffin. Yeah, because that's he's sitting there not really give 827 01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:49.840 them weed and listen to smoke, you know, and they's like, I 828 01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:54.280 want some gummies here you go, or you want someone some snacks here. 829 01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.599 That's the weed. That's what that does do. It makes you ship your 830 01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:00.760 brains out. And he'd be at school telling all his friends like, man, 831 01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.800 the beer tastes so nasty, and his friend's be like, no, 832 01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:09.559 I do, it's awesomely what's wrong with you? Like I've even snorted a 833 01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:17.199 cocaine. That shit burns. Then we oh my God, make shit that's 834 01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:20.840 on the toilet for twenty five minutes, just praying for Jesus make it stop. 835 01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:28.440 Just when to stop? It's just like load to ask some more toilet 836 01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:33.280 paper and everything. I'll never do it again, I don't know, at 837 01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:38.320 least not from your dad. Maybe I should put all that all like a 838 01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:41.719 grant and be like, this is how we're gonna we want to talk to 839 01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:46.280 the schools. This is what we're gonna do. Taste test Friday. Wow. 840 01:05:49.079 --> 01:05:53.639 Marty's like, this is why we don't get people donating to us because 841 01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:57.960 all that stuff you say on the podcast. I'm even joking, but they 842 01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:04.199 don't think it's funny. Oh, we're having fun and recovery today and this 843 01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:08.199 topic is serious. Absolutely, But I don't know the answers, and you 844 01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:10.920 guys don't either. But we're just going through life trying to figure it out 845 01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:15.400 the best we can. But that's a tough one, Mitch. Yeah. 846 01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:21.960 I mean we're surviving and getting past it. So do you know the best 847 01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:25.719 we can? I can tell you that I'm dealing with it a lot better 848 01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:31.440 than I would have four years ago, you know, So does somebody else 849 01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:34.360 deal with it? As long as I have a bottle in my hand and 850 01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:40.840 I don't. I've been talking about reflection a lot lately because I've been finding 851 01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:45.199 little things that remind me of that time in my life, and I just 852 01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:48.360 keep going back to you. I'm so glad I don't have to live my 853 01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:51.559 life that way again. I really hope I don't have to watch my son 854 01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:57.239 live a life that way. So I've just been trying to have like meaningful 855 01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:01.199 conversations with them because it's never something I got. Ever, there was always 856 01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:08.119 a just don't do this, it's bad because I said so and did That 857 01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:13.639 didn't work for me, so I try something different. He's going to live 858 01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:17.159 his life. Hope he learns, and hopefully he never meets Justin's daughter because 859 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:21.039 be a little Hellians together and then you guys would be family some kind of 860 01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:28.679 way. I think no, gotcha ass All right, Well, guys, 861 01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:32.000 thanks for coming in and hanging out with me on the podcast today. I 862 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:35.760 appreciate it. And it's such a really good topic. And we yeah, 863 01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:39.880 we laughed, we had some fun. But on the serious side, yeah, 864 01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:42.480 it is a serious topic. And you know, like I said, 865 01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:49.239 there's no absolute this is the answer. No, deflect all of your issues 866 01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:57.559 under your employee. That's what we learned today. Blame the X Wow. 867 01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:02.360 Thanks for listening later. Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. 868 01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:09.360 We hope you come back for our next episode.