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Hello everybody, Welcome, Happy Monday. It is that time again, Matt

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Connerton Unleashed and we are live from
the studios of w m n H ninety

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Etc. Today is a Monday, July

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twenty four, two thousand twenty three, and we have a very special guest

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with us at the newsdesk. Steve
Gamblin is here. How are you,

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sir, doing good? How are
you doing that? Very well? Very

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well, Welcome to the show.
I almost don't know how to introduce you,

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in the sense that you do a
number of different things, but well,

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we'll talk about all of it though. I'm really I'm really looking forward

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to this. We already had a
pre interview unofficially before the show. We

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were chit chatting quite a bit,
but very interested in getting to know this

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gentleman better and and sharing that conversation
with all of you, which we will

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do momentarily. Also, of course, if you would like to enter the

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h in the chat room from the
band edgewise. But speaking of dulcet tones,

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So, Steve, you're a you're
a radio guy, former radio guy,

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former radio guy. Two to two. Well is it ever? Really?

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You've still got the voice. You've
got one of those voices that I

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get very I covet your voice.
I'm very envious of people. Tell me.

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Sometimes people will be nice and they'll
say, oh, Matt, you've

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got a great radio voice. And
I would say, no, no,

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no, I have a good radio
voice. But I know people who have

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great radio voices. I know the
difference. You, sir, have a

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great radio voice. Well, thank
you. The shame of it, as

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I wish I had it when I
was actually on the radio. This voice

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didn't even happen on a microphone until
year eight of my ten year career because

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I just didn't have the confidence.
Yeah, didn't have the guts to be

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on the air. Now. I
was a copywriter, production director, I

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was a rock morning show producer and
a comedy writer for most of those years.

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Yeah, but not until our morning
guy quit and the owner was going

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to put us back on satellite,
did I say, guys, I can

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do this. I can do the
morning show. And in parentheses in my

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head, I'm thinking, never been
on the out of all that and the

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struggles of a five day audition,
just throwing it out at the end,

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and just my own voice came out. Yeah, just had it ever since.

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Yeah, it's a sink or swim, And you know, we were

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kind of talking about this offer.
I think that that's probably a big key

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to success in life, is very
often just being willing to kind of put

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yourself out there and take something on
that. I have a similar story,

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just briefly. I was in a
band called the Jinxt for a long time,

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and when they first asked me to
join the band, I didn't want

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to do it because I was being
asked to join with a very short window

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of time before I was going to
be playing my first show with them.

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I played the bass. I hadn't
even looked at my bass in a long

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time. I was, so I
just felt like I was way out of

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practice and we're never going to be
able to learn these songs in time because

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they had never played out either.
It was a new band, but they

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had a show in like two weeks
at a dorm party at UNH and I

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was asked to join. And the
way it was pitched to me, it

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was like, Matt, we have
like almost no time to practice because everyone

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has a very busy schedule and we
have to play for like ninety minutes.

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But what do you say? And
everything about it sounded like a bad idea.

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But the person who was inviting me
was a close friend who was so

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nice. He's one of those you
ever know people who were They're just so

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nice that the idea of disappointing them
in any way is just terrible. So

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you you say yes to things that
you know you probably shouldn't. Yeah,

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yeah, so I So I had
every intention to say no, And I

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called them back and I said okay, and then I got off the phone.

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I was like, oh, no, what have I done? Turned

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out to be a fantastic decision,
and so much flowed from that that instance

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of me. That's why I'm always
skeptical. You know, some people will

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say, you know, it's important
when to no one to say no to

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things, which I agree with Sometimes
life presents us with terrible options we should

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say no to. But sometimes I
I just wonder, But what do you

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do if you're someone who doesn't always
trust your own instincts to say no?

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Because if I had said no to
that opportunity that I really at the time

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thought I should say no to,
and I only said yes because I didn't

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want to disappoint the friend who was
asking me, you know, I don't

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know. I mean, one thing
leads to another, leads to another.

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I don't know if I'd be doing
this radio show today if I hadn't done

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that. You know, I might
be. I might be doing something else,

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not getting to do this. You
know who knows? Yeah, My

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whole life is a series of those. Is that when it's screaming no,

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don't do it obviously, whether it's
harmful or yeah, full of shure,

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if you just you're you know,
you're not going to be the head of

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the rastic surgery at Boston General,
though you said yes, you would do

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it when you have a background like
we have. Yeah, But when those

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opportunities come up, and that first
thing is it's fight or flight, it's

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do or it or don't, and
you get that panicked feel in your stomach,

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but you still say yes. You
might be amazed if the opportunities that

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pop up, because all of a
sudden, your your antenna is going to

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be up right and you're going to
see and hear opportunities. I mean,

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that's everything I've done over the past
twenty one years since blowing my life completely

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into dust, has been a series
of those of just saying yes, and

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then what do they say, take
the leap and grow your wings on the

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way down. It's oh, I've
never heard that expression, but it makes

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sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and can you tell us about because

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people who are watching us on Facebook
are going to be wondering or on channel

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ninety seven the shirt that you're wearing, it says got vision, Got vision.

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Yeah. I'm known as my brand
is the motivational Firewood Guy as a

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speaker, Yeah, and my main
product is a program called vision Board Mastery,

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so I teach people how visualization really
works. It's not just slapping pictures

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of a Lamborghini yacht, Ferrari mansion, private jet, honkin jewelry in a

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bank vault full of gold bars on
a poster board and saying look, I'm

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manifest right, So I teach people
how visualization really works. So I do

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wear the Goat Vision t shirt.
Okay, let's let's compare something, because

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I also I talk about visualization a
lot, and I don't know if you

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know this about me. I'm also
a hypnotherapist. Cool, so I help

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people to quit smoking and lose weight
and get motivated and things like that.

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One of the things I do talk
about a lot is visualization. And so

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just as an example with my smoking
clients, I do I tell them this

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before the session, but I give
them the actual hypnotic suggestion obviously once I

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have them in a state of hypnosis. But I tell them, you know,

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visualize yourself as a non smoker.
Visualize yourself being around other people who

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are smoking, and you not caring
that other people are smoking because you're not

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interested. And what I tell them
is, you know, the way the

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subconscious mind works, the subconscious does
not easily distinguish between what is real and

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what is imagined. So another example
is if somebody, actually this is a

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better example, if someone comes to
me and they say they have a fear

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of public speaking, which is a
very common phobias. As you know,

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as I'm sure you've talked to many
people who have that problem. If somebody

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comes to me with that, one
thing I tell them is, you know,

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we do the session. But I
also tell them, listen, here's

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something you can do on your own
outside of hypnosis. Just imagine yourself.

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Imagine yourself getting up in front of
that group of people and just doing a

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phenomenal job. Because the subconscious mind, it doesn't easily distinguish between what's real

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and what's imagined. For example,
if you access a memory that's a powerful

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memory, and you really focus on
it, you feel all the same and

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feelings you did when that memory actually
happened, maybe not quite as intensely because

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it's just a memory, but but
your subconscious mind doesn't necessarily know the difference,

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so you're feeling all those same things
again. So if you train your

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mind to believe that you are supposed
to go and succeed at that, your

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mind just begins to believe, Okay, well this is what happens, because

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in your mind it's already happened.
So go and imagine yourself. Visualize yourself

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in front of that group of people, given a great speech. And if

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you keep doing that, your subconscious
begins to just believe, Okay, that's

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what's supposed to happen. So when
you actually go to do it for real,

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it just happens because you've already trained
your mind. That's what happens.

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That's just how it this works.
Your mind thinks it's already happened. So

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that's that's kind of how I use
visualization with my clients. So I'm curious

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to hear you expand on the on
how you approach it. Very similar.

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What you're doing is you're training your
brain. You are hardwiring yourself to not

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know if it already existedfoos just imagination. And one of the things I ask

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people when I first start working with
them for coaching, I'll ask what do

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your goals look like? And they'll
start to say, I go, hang

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on, what do they look like? Feel like, sound like, smell

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like, taste like? And I
always laugh at that one. But in

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your case, for quoting smoking,
how good like you as somebody? What's

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your favorite meal? How amazing is
it going to taste when you are six

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weeks out, six months out from
and now being a non smoker out quoting

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smoking, being a non smoker,
becoming the best version of yourself? Ask

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what's your favorite food? Okay,
we're gonna set a lunch date right now,

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we're gonna go together. We're gonna
go enjoy this, and I'm gonna

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ask you, how does this feel? Was it as good as you visualized

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it feeling? And you know,
brought in all your senses? So yeah,

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it's making it real and a big
part of it just like what you

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do. It's not what you get
visualizing, Yeah, it's who you become

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behind the best version of yourself.
And once we get into the sensory stuff.

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With some of my clients, it
blows their minds to blast a year

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down the line where not well rewatch
an archived coaching session, Yeah, when

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they had no idea how to answer
those and then they give me all the

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concrete answers. Oh, interesting site, it's interesting, cool to watch.

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I like what you said too about
becoming the how did how did you put

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it? The best version of themselves? It's not just what you get,

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it's who you become and becoming the
best elite version of yourself with all the

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gifts you've been given plus everything you've
worked on. Yeah, yeah, I

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do a visualization with um I usually
do it. I do it at the

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end of the session, and I
do this with everybody, well almost everybody.

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Um, we do the main part
of the session where I, you

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know, get them to be a
non smoker or get them to be uh,

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you know, make better decisions about
their eating habits and so forth.

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But then when we get to the
end, I do this thing where I

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have them imagine looking at an image
of themselves but from the outside of their

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ideal self, the the ideal person, the version of themselves that they most

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want to be. And then I
have them imagine that they're actually walking into

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and stepping inside that version of themselves
and literally in their minds becoming that ideal

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version of them free of whatever the
bad habit is that they're trying to break

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or whatever. So, so do
you do you have Do you do vision

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boards with clients or I do?
Yeah. I started off doing live events

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open to the public many many years
ago. Yeah, And it's it's a

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very difficult it's a difficult sell and
it's difficult to get people to understand the

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depth of the work because it turns
into a vision board party. Okay.

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I actually have a t shirt line
on the back of says, friends don't

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let friends attend vision board parties.
Yeah, So I came from that.

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I started doing it inside of companies
at live events with company teams. Yeah.

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And then some entrepreneurs and individuals and
even couples reached out, Hey,

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Steve, we can't afford this company
rate. Why don't you create an audio

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program that we can follow. Yeah, a product. Yeah. And of

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course, anytime somebody says did you
ever think of doing this, the standard

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answer is, you know what,
it's almost done, but we haven't launched

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it yet. And then I would
take out a pen and go create a

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program for these. So it became
actually a ten step program based on my

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journey in the in the from the
early two thousands to the end of the

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first decade, from blown up life
to setting the seeds for everything I have

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today, including meeting and connecting with
the love of my life, creating relationship

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in eight major areas of life.
It's not just stuff physical health, emotional

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well being, relationships, your core
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does the same thing from another direction, your connection to people, your work,

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and your money. All those categories
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So wouldn't it be a good idea
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to go, even in the course
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start with a twenty years from now
thing. Yeah, you can have long

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term goals. What could you get
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that because we're priming the pump here
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foreign to a lot of people.
The cost of what you and I both

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do freaks a lot of people out
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them through it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Oh. Rosanna McMahon is

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in the Facebook live chat and says, hey, that's my cousin, Steve,

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that's my cousin. Hello, very
nice. Also Melanie Liberty joins us

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in the chat. She says this
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me, but I will try my
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talked off air about people in the
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you visualize something and it just never
comes That happens, and it can happen

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for a number of reasons. Sometimes
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may see something shiny. But the
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when they start working with them,
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So it's part of the program.
Why do you want it? And if

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you just say I don't know,
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not unsolid yet, but if you
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you want something or why you do
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a speaker today because when I was
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a friend of mine encouraged me to
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radio when I had no idea how
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it. I went to broadcast school, I got my first internship summer ninety

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two, drove to his house.
Hey man, I got a job at

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a radio station. How much you
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that friend passed away three weeks later. Oh but he lived long enough to

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see me get into radio to follow
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the I Told you So speech.
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speaker around two thousand and three,
two thousand and four, somebody asked me

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why you a speaker? I said, because I had a friend who believed

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in me when I didn't, and
I want to be that friend for other

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people. So anytime I'm on a
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shows up or a thousand and one. Yeah, I know why I'm there.

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And as scared as I've ever been
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time time I get nervous, Yeah, that why keeps me going, and

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it's helped me to create a speaking
career, coaching career programs. I've published

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four books, I've got my own
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on a radio station that streams out
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So it's it's as you dial it
in and understand why whe does it look

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like, feel like, sound like, smell like? And why does it

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really appeal to you? The more
real you can make it, the better

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and more solid your steps are going
to be. Does some things just never

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happen? Yes? Sure, that's
that's that's part of life. Yeah,

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otherwise you get you know, eighty
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Powerball hits a billion dollars manifesting a
billion dollars right right? You know?

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Yeah? Um, how important is
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when I talk about this, this
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I don't know how many people can
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my approach to this particular aspect of
things. Any motivational speaker will tell me

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I'm wrong, but I'm curiously get
your thoughts. The way my mind works

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is I tend to not set specific
goals because everyone always says, you know,

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you gotta have specific goals and try
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and so forth. And my approach
to things has always been I find things

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I want to do that I'm passionate
about. Whether it's doing this, or

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whether it's doing hypnotherapy or or you
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etc. I find things that I'm
passionate about, and then I just

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I operate under the assumption that if
I work really hard at these things and

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I don't give up on them,
I stick with them, they will lead

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to success, they will lead to
more good things. But I don't.

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I don't set specific goals. I
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Okay, this is something i'm passionate
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it, and I'm going to just
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the universe, if you want to
think of it that way. I'm just

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going to trust that I will end
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don't know, I don't know why
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maybe it's a way of avoiding disappointment. If I don't set a specific,

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concrete goal, then I'm never disappointed. Or maybe it's just I've always kind

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of had this sense of, you
know, there's so much randomness to life,

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there so much chance, this,
so this, so much that we

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can't control that. I maybe I
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just gonna go for whatever I want
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but that's always kind of been my
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at setting goals and I and I
and definitely I don't set any kind of

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deadlines for myself, like, Okay, by this point, I want to

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be here, I want to have
accomplished this. So am I doing it

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all wrong? Or am I just
weird and different? And that's okay to

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be weird and different. What do
you think There's no set concrete answer out

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there. Yeah. Personal development in
motivation are the wild West. They really

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are. And of course some people's
stars shine very brightly, and then all

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of their followers who deify them.
Tony Robbins, who I really I loved

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Tony's early stuff. I don't particularly
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well to it now his approach.
Yeah. But what happens is if

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you have something that works for you, go for it. Yeah, keep

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doing it. It doesn't there's no
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even even what I do in the
way I teach it, some people go,

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oh no, no, that's not
going to work. You have to

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do it this way. You get
to have smart goals, specific, measurable,

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attainable, realistic, and timely.
Why right, because you bought the

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smart fridge magnet or bump a sticker
and the last Tony Robbins event you went

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to when you were massaging the person
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with the thumping music and the lasers. If it works for you, do

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it and keep doing it. Now
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things because when I build an action
plan for me, it's I compare it

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to an old wooden roller coaster,
like here we are in southern New Hampshire.

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We've got the old Yankee cannonball at
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just a person who is normally not
super organized. But when I set my

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goals, I know I am at
the parking lot level now, and I

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identify where I am now as well. Yeah, the top of that first

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hill is any one of my goals? And then how do you get there?

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Click? Click, click click and
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person who has about a thousand squirrels
running around in his head, that specific

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measurable action plan, and I create
tracking systems like the number of miles I

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want to pedal on the peloton this
year. I've got, you know,

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one of those thermometer type graphics on
my vision board. Every time I hit

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another hundred, I color in that
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it's not for everybody. So if
it works for you, go for it

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and don't let anybody tell you that
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frustrated? If you you know you
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But if you're not, if you're
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see part of my problem, too, is if I always feel like if

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I set a specific goal for something
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that time period, then I'm gonna
feel like, oh, I'm a failure.

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I failed at this, I I
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I mean, how do you how
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you if you uh you know,
if you have your action plan, I

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mean, do you put do you
put time? Do you put a timetable

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into your action plan or or or
do you approach it as more just Okay,

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this is what I'm going to do, and it takes as long as

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it takes. I do typically set
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don't hit it, I'm okay.
I don't beat myself up. I don't

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tear up the goal and say this
was worthless, this was wrong. Yeah.

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I'll ask myself, and I'll be
brutally honest. I'll ask myself right

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in the mirror. Did I do
the work necessary to get here, developed

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the better habits, to be consistent, to build momentum, to build confidence.

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long as I'm a better version of
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It's not like the people at the
beginning of the year when they set

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those New Year's resolutions. Yeah,
and they're very vague. They write down

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January first, twenty twenty three,
I want to I want to be happier,

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I want to be healthier, and
I want more money. Right.

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And then the week between Christmas and
New Year's of this year, they're cleaning

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the living room because company's coming,
and they see this water paper folded up

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keeping the lamp from rocking, and
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they open it up and they go, huh, I want to be happier,

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healthier, and more money. How
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You know, it's cold out,
it's dark. I do set pretty

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specific things and create a way to
track to make sure that my behavior at

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least is moving me in the right
direction. But if I don't make it,

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I'm good with that, which is
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my self. Deprecation. I took
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and it did not serve me well. I can relate to that. I

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struggle with that still today. I
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self hypnosis to keep me on try
to keep me on track. But

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I to this day, I have
a problem. It does get out of

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control where I beat myself up.
Jenny knows this. She gets to the

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joy of witnessing it all. I
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headspace where Okay, on one hand,

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I didn't set any specific goals and
yet I have this but I have

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the sense that I'm not where I
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then I start to, you know, I ruminate. I that's what it

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is. Really. I ruminate on
mistakes that I've made. Yeah, you

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know, which, obviously I know
logically is the wrong thing to do.

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Mistakes are something to learn from and
not to dwell on. But and it's

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good to reflect on mistakes in the
sense that you want to be able to

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acknowledge what went wrong so you don't
repeat the mistake. But there's such a

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I find there's a very at least
for me, there's a very thin line

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between reflecting on a mistake and ruminating
on it. And that's a big pitfall

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for me. Oh yeah, I
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been on the radio, so I
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I would have rooms full of people
hysterically laughing. Yeah. Problem is they

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don't see the wrecking ball swinging back
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doing. And I didn't even realize
it at the time. I'm thinking,

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Hey, this is fine. I'm
getting laughs. I'm getting laughs. I

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held myself back so far for so
many years and just kept destroying myself,

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taking myself out at the ankles over
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growing. And a dear friend,
my buddy, Chris Whitehead, who I

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had just met. This is around
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all three days of a three day
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dozen people. Small event. Yeah. On the third day, I was

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in a bad mood. I was
self deprecating, and I was running out

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of material. So I went on
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which I thought was hysterically funny,
talking about all the dumbest things that ever

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done in my life. Yeah,
and at the end the people left.

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He pulled me off to the side
stage and intervention. He said, Bro,

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if I ever hear you talk about
yourself like that again, not only

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are we not brothers, you'll never
sit foot on one of my stages again.

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Wow, did you listen to yourself
up there? I said no,

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and I was just leveling. I
had already destroyed myself. And now here

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he is coming out, and he
with steel toe boots kicking me in a

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part of my body my doctor only
gets to see once a year. He

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kicked me so hard that I finally
got the lesson. Now, does my

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brain ever still go to some hysterically
funny stuff? Yeah, I just don't

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say it, and I don't believe
it either. Sometimes I'll be like,

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oh my gosh, that's genius.
I got to figure out a way to

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use this without harming myself self.
Yeah, but I've stopped ruminating on that.

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Okay stuff. It's it's it's a
learned skill and it takes a lot

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of time. And sometimes it's just
looking in your mirror saying don't go there.

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Yeah, don't go there, because
the good stuff just as real as

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the bad. I did a podcast
over the weekend called stack Up your Winds.

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So if you start thinking of some
failures. Instantly balance it out with

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a couple of winds. Yeah,
you've got your own radio show. I

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mean, come on, in an
industry that's very tough to get into these

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days. Yeah, you've got a
show. You've had it for years.

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That's a win. Yeah, that
that right there can can compensate for anything

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else. If you flubbed the word
a mister recording or had a blooper real

409
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,640
moment, start counteracting it with the
winds, because you deserve to be here.

410
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,119
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
I know, I appreciate. I

411
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,640
appreciate hearing that. Actually, I
think that's I think that's really good advice,

412
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,640
because yeah, that is something I
do. I do struggle with when

413
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,880
I get into that, when I
get into that zone and that mental state.

414
00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:07,799
Um so, but you said something
interesting. So does this affect your

415
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,000
your approach too, because you also
do stand up comedy I did, or

416
00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:15,480
you didn't do any four twenty eleven, And the reason I stopped was somebody

417
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:19,160
had a very good point. I
was starting to do corporate speaking. Yeah,

418
00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:23,359
and somebody asked me after a show, Hey, Steve, if the

419
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,960
female CEO of a company that was
interested in having you speak just came in

420
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,160
and heard your act and my closing
bit was a song parody called the Viagrass

421
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,519
Song to the tune of Wee Will
Rock You by Queen Yeah. And I

422
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:37,319
wasn't a dirty comic. I could
be adult in nature, but I was

423
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,759
not dirty. I was not foul
mouth. Yeah said, if that female

424
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,359
CEO saw you here, would she
hire you to speak to her company?

425
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,799
And I said, you know what, probably not interesting because not everybody can

426
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:51,359
tell the difference or knows. They
just think, oh, if he's like

427
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,240
that there, he's like that everywhere. Okay, So I took all the

428
00:27:55,319 --> 00:28:00,759
skills and I took the very very
clean material from comedy in my style brought

429
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,920
it over to speaking. Yeah,
you could be humorous and motivational and positive

430
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,000
as a speaker. You can earn
more money right now, that makes sense.

431
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,240
Do you miss it? Though?
I miss being on stage, I

432
00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:17,559
don't miss the comedy industry because there's
a lot of addiction, there's a lot

433
00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:22,200
of mental illness, there's a lot
of depression. Yeah, things I've dealt

434
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,960
with over the years with depression and
things like that, and I don't miss

435
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:30,519
that part of it. It's very
dark art. I was the more on

436
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:34,000
the more positive end of all the
comedians I knew, but still it was

437
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:37,960
very difficult being around some people knowing
that what they were doing on stage to

438
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:45,119
get laughs was them doing their own
therapy and getting it out there and urging

439
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:49,759
poison, and knowing from that side
of the curtain. Some of it was

440
00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:55,240
pretty painful watching people just disintegrate.
Yeah, that's interesting, Yeah, because

441
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:59,440
a lot of comedians will talk about
that. They'll they'll talk about their their

442
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:00,920
pain there there. I mean a
lot of you know, a lot of

443
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,960
sand up comedians draw from you know, if they had a difficult childhood,

444
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:11,440
you know, drawing material from that
and whatnot. I've always thought it would

445
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,160
be that's not a skill set that
I have. I mean, I can

446
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,640
be funny on the show. I
can be you know, I think the

447
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,759
term is situationally funny or contextually funny. I can you know, I can

448
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:23,079
have a conversation and make jokes on
the air and so forth, and be

449
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,279
kind of some people think I'm funny. I have an odd sense of humor,

450
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:30,039
so I think some people don't.
But but I've always thought, I've

451
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,640
always you know, to me,
it would be like a superpower to be

452
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,880
able to go on stage and just
be funny on command and to just make

453
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,680
people laugh. I mean, what
could be what could be better than making

454
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,920
people laugh, you know, in
the immediacy of that, and it just

455
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,440
looks like it looks like the greatest
job in the world being a stand up

456
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,359
comic. It's a lot of fun. And even now people see if used

457
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:56,039
to be comedian, tell me a
joke. I don't tell jokes. I

458
00:29:56,079 --> 00:30:00,279
never did tell jokes. What you
hear me doing on stage at a positivity,

459
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:04,000
personal development, motivational type event,
it's pretty much the same structure of

460
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,680
what I did for stand up.
I'm a storyteller, yeah, and it

461
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,440
comes down to using your voice,
your speed, you're high, you're low,

462
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:12,519
you're faster or slow, your face, your gestures, your physicality.

463
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:18,160
Yeah, to tell a story and
connect with people. It's just the funny

464
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,480
happens a little more often in stand
upright, I have to right, But

465
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,519
speaking it is the same exact way. If I can get you to laugh

466
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,279
and learn at the same time,
we're going to hardwire some growth in you.

467
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,319
And it's the basics of the art
form or the same for me anyway.

468
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,839
Yeah, No, I'm just the
same on stage off stage, backstage,

469
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:41,759
standing on the street corner, or
walking on the Captain crunchild at the

470
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:45,440
grocery store. I've had amazing conversations
with people in every one of those places.

471
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,039
Yeah, well that's using humor.
I mean, that's the best way

472
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:52,160
to pull people in any way,
right, Like, Like I've always thought,

473
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,079
you know, if you can no
matter what it is, whether you're

474
00:30:55,079 --> 00:31:00,720
trying to help people in terms of
motivational presentation, or whether you're talking about

475
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:06,319
politics, or whether you're you're talking
about music, I always um, you

476
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:08,000
know, I interview a lot of
musicians on the show, and when I

477
00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:11,960
have musicians on Who, a lot
of musicians, you know, because they're

478
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,079
creative people anyway, a lot of
them are also have phenomenal sense of humor,

479
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:18,200
and I always tell them, you
know, yeah, be funny because

480
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:22,720
people are going to be It sounds
odd, but people are going to be

481
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:26,240
more interested in listening to your music
if you can make them laugh during our

482
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,440
conversation, because you're able to connect
with them by making making somebody laugh,

483
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:36,960
is I think establishes a connection almost
like no other connection you can establish with

484
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,920
a person in terms of building rapport
and just really you know, once you

485
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,000
once you get somebody to laugh,
even if you know, we do a

486
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,799
lot of politics on the show,
and you know, even if you're diametrically

487
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:52,920
opposed politically with somebody, if you
can make them laugh, they're just going

488
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,880
to be more open to you,
and they're going to listen more intently to

489
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,880
everything that you're saying and really kind
of taking it in. Yeah, you

490
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:05,119
can weave that behavior, that style
into pretty much any area of life.

491
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,839
My family, I have a small
nonprofit called Beach Bump Philanthropy, and we're're

492
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,400
dedicated to doing as many acts of
kindness as we can in the simplest ways.

493
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:14,880
Now, you and I are tall
guys, and if we're at a

494
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,920
grocery store and there's a little old
lady with a carriage there, we're going

495
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,799
to be a little intimidating. So
I even I love to play a game

496
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:23,599
I call shopping cart rodeo, which
is either rescuing the abandoned carts, or

497
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:27,720
if you see a little old lady
who's only got one or two items left,

498
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:30,279
saying from a distance, excuse me, would you like me to return

499
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:32,640
that for you? And then you
walk over and I always say the same

500
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,559
thing ma'am, please remove your purse
from the carriage by the time I get

501
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:39,480
there, because see all these cameras
up here. I do not want that

502
00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:43,000
to catch And you're beating me up
in the parking lot thinking I'm trying to

503
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,000
steal your purse. That would be
embarrassing, right, and the total strangers.

504
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,960
Yeah, and it's like we've known
each other forever and they're laughing and

505
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,839
I'm laughing, And it's an amazing
way to connect with people because we never

506
00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,160
know where someone else's life is.
Yes, you could be the person who

507
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:05,839
changes their whole day because they might
have been looking for a reason to stay

508
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,559
positive, ever, have hope or
whatever. And if you can do it

509
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,200
just with humor and some kindness at
the same time, I was that was

510
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,319
a bad day the first time I
did that. This woman was easily in

511
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:19,279
her eighties. Yeah, I was
sixty feet away with her cart, her

512
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:22,799
windows were up in her car.
I could still hear her laughing. Oh

513
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,359
really, And it made my day. And somebody said, well, you're

514
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,960
like an angel. I'm like,
no, she was the angel. Yeah.

515
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,119
I was having a bad day.
Yeah, and I just did this

516
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,599
little act of kindness and for whatever
people choose to believe in. I always

517
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:37,519
look up give a little wink,
said all right, I know she you

518
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,319
put her in my path today.
Thank you. Now let's go find another

519
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:44,960
one, right right, Yeah,
that's that's awesome. We have a question

520
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,880
in the chat room Alex Whiteley,
our friend from the UK. He says,

521
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,519
Uh, Steve, what advice would
you give to someone who who has

522
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:55,000
spent the last two years having their
confidence and self esteemed battered by constant bad

523
00:33:55,079 --> 00:34:01,000
luck? It happens, you know, I'll even add another two years onto

524
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,759
that somebody. Recently, I was
on a podcast with a gentleman in Australia

525
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,960
and he said, so, how
were the last four years from you?

526
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,199
And I said, oh, you
mean three deaths in a pandemic. My

527
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,840
dad died, my business mentor died, our dog died, and both of

528
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,239
my businesses which were event based,
got demolished. Oh yeah, seven months

529
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,559
without earning a dime at the first
part of COVID. Yeah, it can

530
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:28,480
be very easy. And I'm not
saying this to bullettle anything that this person

531
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:31,079
is feeling. It can be very
easy for us to have that question.

532
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:36,239
And I had, great, what
else can go wrong? We just need

533
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,880
to be very careful and aware of
that, and bad things do happen,

534
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,519
Oh my gosh, I mean if
bad things happened to great, positive,

535
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:49,039
super friendly, loving, caring,
creative people every day. Yeah, it

536
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:52,840
comes down to what we focus on
and if we can potentially see a cause

537
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:57,800
behind it out of our control,
we can't control. But if it's something

538
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,360
in our heads, if we're saying
to ourselves, well, what else could

539
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,840
possibly go wrong? What else could
wreck my day? What else could ruin

540
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:10,000
my life? And we start to
counterbalance that with some gratitude I have.

541
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:13,840
For eleven and a half years,
I've been putting pen to paper every morning

542
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,800
and writing down my three favorite moments
from the previous day. Interesting, not

543
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,480
just saying my health, my job, by whatever, because if you're gonna

544
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,360
just do that, it's gonna lose
its power. You may as well just

545
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,440
carve it into a potato and get
an ink stamp and just Gutenberg your way

546
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:34,159
through gratitude. But when I find
those little winds, even the moments someone

547
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,960
held the door for me today,
I got to hold the door for someone

548
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,440
I rescued a shopping cart. Oh
my gosh, this person wore the coolest

549
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,079
hat that I saw or this person
smiled at me, or had this great

550
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:46,480
conversation, or I got to hear
these two guys on a radio show five

551
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:52,840
thousand miles away. And it can
be anything. So if it feels like

552
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:59,400
it's steaming downhill, to the best
of your ability, think of the good,

553
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,960
even any moments from the day,
because they're just as real as the

554
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,480
tough stuff. And it can start
your mirror in the morning. You know,

555
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:09,239
I've got one exercise to do with
my clients, is all right,

556
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,559
Get a little sheet of paper in
a pen right down one, two,

557
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,480
five, six seven. Leave it
in your bathroom when you get in there

558
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,400
in the morning. Once you look
in the mirror, start at the top

559
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,920
of your head, work your way
down. When you see something about yourself,

560
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960
you like, write it down for
that day. People think it's weird,

561
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:27,039
and I say, I'm gonna give
you the first day. You're gonna

562
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:30,039
start at the top of your head. You're gonna go all the way down,

563
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:30,800
and you're gonna look at your feet
and go, well, hack,

564
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,679
at least my socks match good.
There's day one right now. You can't

565
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,119
do the socks thing anymore. I've
had people on the third fourth day Steve,

566
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:42,559
Oh my gosh, I have really
cool eyes. I have a nice

567
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:45,559
smile. I have dimples. Those
are cool. And when you have dimples

568
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:47,360
and you notice they're cool, you
smile more, which makes bigger dimples.

569
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:52,679
Right. For seven days, give
yourself the gift of identifying something positive about

570
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,159
how you look, how you feel, who you are, what you do,

571
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,199
where you're at. You know,
here's one thing for you in the

572
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,719
UK. I think you have an
incredible accent. Yeah, so there,

573
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:09,000
so I hope that's helpful to to
understand maybe the movement behind it. Yeah,

574
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:13,039
you know, we can let that
tide push us like a big or

575
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,920
or in the case of winter,
a snowball rolling down at hill getting bigger

576
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,960
and bigger, And all we're wondering
is how much worse can it get?

577
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:23,079
Right, It's a natural human thing
it is to be aware of it,

578
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:28,760
though. Yeah, that's something I'm
vulnerable too, uh, as as well

579
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,840
as um. You know that catastrophic
thinking, you know, and and uh,

580
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,119
it's it's easy to when something goes
wrong. It's it's easy to in

581
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:42,679
the moment really be focused on what's
go going going wrong and um and uh

582
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:45,639
and lose track of all the things
that are going right. Um, so

583
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,800
I think that's uh, I think
that's good advice. Um. Oh,

584
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,559
hello to Legion of Solace, who
is in the Facebook laugh chat, as

585
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:57,599
well as our friend Jay Fed from
the Great State of Vermont. And if

586
00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:00,880
you would like to enter the discussion, the studio line is six three two

587
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,440
five six seven six three two five
six seven. We're talking with Steve Gamblin

588
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:08,559
on the show with Us today.
Oh what do you um you call?

589
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:15,079
Uh Motivational Firewood? Is that that
is my official brand? Yeah? Yeah,

590
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,800
as a speaker, and I own
the trademark on that. Okay.

591
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,840
When I first started as a speaker, somebody said have you heard of the

592
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,400
National Speakers Association And I had not. Yea, they have a chapter that

593
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,480
meets in Boston, and I went
down to a meeting, and of course

594
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,000
I walk in. Everybody else has
these nice in Boston name badges and lanyards,

595
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:34,639
and I've got the little h tag
of shame where it says hi,

596
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,559
my name is hit me a sharpie. So I just write Steve yeah on

597
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:42,000
my chest. Well, a gentleman
said, hey, Steve, I'm Dennis,

598
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:44,239
Nice to meet you, Happy to
have you here. So what do

599
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,320
you speak about it well, you
know, a motivation and positivity and humor.

600
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,280
He says, what makes you different? He said, I want to

601
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,599
motivate people. He goes, Steve, we all want to do that,

602
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:54,280
right, what makes you unique?
And God love him? He had the

603
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,719
patience of the Saint. About five
minutes in. I finally, after stumbling

604
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,519
for answers, So, Dennis,
you know what, if people pay to

605
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:06,920
come hear me speak, it means
they may have a spark of something in

606
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,159
their heart that they want to do
with their lives, but they don't know

607
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,599
how to do it. And it
might share a tip, a tactic,

608
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:15,559
a strategy, a lesson, a
story that gives them an idea of what

609
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,440
they can do and helps them believe
in themselves and then they go do something

610
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:21,880
with it. It's kind of like
a hand in him a piece of motivational

611
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,920
firewood. And he snapped his fingers
and he goes, Now that young man,

612
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,079
that's different in unique and it's cool. He goes, it's a great

613
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:34,679
name. Learn about trademarking it.
But you know what I love the most.

614
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:38,880
I just watched your face light up
when you said that. I felt

615
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,639
really good. Yeah, so I've
been the motivational firewood guy. Ever since,

616
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,199
every few years I got to re
up the trademark, and every few

617
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,519
years I send them a check and
I still own There you go, There

618
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:53,400
you go, Jenny just shared in
the chat room to your website Steve Gamblin

619
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:59,840
dot com and um, yeah,
when people go there, what can they

620
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:07,159
spect to find some positivity and people
who can probably or a person who can

621
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:12,239
probably very well relate to what they're
going through. I am, if nothing

622
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,519
else, my two most important things
being authentic and being vulnerable. We'll add

623
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:21,320
three and real, authentic and real. Yeah, I've been through it.

624
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,360
Everything I speak on, everything I
write, the Fishion Board, Mastery Program,

625
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:29,800
everything is a chronicle of what I've
been able to do over the past

626
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,039
twenty one years to put my life
together because I literally destroyed it. And

627
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:37,880
if you're old enough to get the
reference, think Wiley Coyote, Acme rocket

628
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,119
roller skates going off accressicating the Canayan
floor. I blew up my radio career,

629
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,199
my first marriage ended. I was
tens of thousands of dollars in debt

630
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:49,360
at age thirty five, without a
full time job. Yeah, and luckily

631
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:53,480
my family is amazing. I had
a safe place to land and slowly put

632
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:57,960
it all back together with some more
of those angels that appeared in my life.

633
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:01,519
Yeah, the weirdest moment. You
would never think a three dollars bucket

634
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:06,079
of golf balls in a thunderstorm underpower
lines would change my life forever, but

635
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:10,840
it did. Okay, Well,
now I have to know what happened the

636
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,760
lowest of the low in a very
self deprecating mood. Yeah, it was

637
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:21,639
August of two thousand and three,
and where the market Basket is over in

638
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,559
Bedford now used to be a mini
golf driving range and I was driving by.

639
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:30,119
I had three dollars up in my
pocket that week and decided to just

640
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:32,840
take out my frustrations on a bucket
of golf balls. Yeah. And so

641
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,000
I picked the farthest tea box on
the property because I didn't want to dent

642
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,400
anyone's car in the parking lot or
hit anybody on the mini golf course.

643
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:44,440
Yeah. And I was underneath these
gigantic steel power lines. And so August

644
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:50,400
oh three humid and a thunderstorm comes
through and I was so down on myself.

645
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,440
I was the only person who didn't
run from the storm. Yeah,

646
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,280
So I took my shoes off.
So I was barefoot in the wet grass

647
00:41:55,599 --> 00:42:00,679
with a golf club hitting a bucket
under the power lines. At one point,

648
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,599
I just held the club up and
I just said, I dare you

649
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:07,000
take me out? Go ahead?
And I was just being sarcastic, kind

650
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,320
of like if you remember Fourrest Gump
when Lieutenant Dan was up in the crow's

651
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,920
nest and the hurricane just screaming,
Is that all you got? Come on?

652
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:15,719
Blow? Yeah, that was my
Lieutenant Dan moment. Yeah. So

653
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,960
I hit my bucket and the buckets
of two guys who ran from the storm

654
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,400
and never came back. So after
an hour, I couldn't even lift my

655
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:25,599
arms. Yeah. I got to
my car and the sun came out and

656
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:29,880
it stopped raining. Yeah, and
I just started laughing. I thought that

657
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,639
was so funny. And the next
day I was on the call with a

658
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,400
brand new life coach who says,
hey, how was your week? And

659
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,599
I said, put down your pane
and listen to this, and I told

660
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:40,559
him the story of that hour.
Yeah. I made it as funny as

661
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:44,639
I could. Super self deprecating,
but yeah, as funny as I could.

662
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:46,760
And when he stopped laughing, which
is something a coach shouldn't do when

663
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:52,159
your life stinks. He asked,
have you ever thought of being a motivational

664
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,639
speaker or a stand up comedian?
I think you'd be great at both,

665
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,679
And I said yes since I was
eleven, but I had no idea how

666
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,400
to sue either one. He said, you're not going to believe this,

667
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:04,960
But in the junk mail on my
desk because I didn't throw it away yet,

668
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:08,000
there's a brochure for a local community
college that has a stand up comedy

669
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:12,719
class that starts in two weeks.
Will you go? Yep? And I

670
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,440
went, have you ever heard of
Toastmasters? Kinda? There's a chapter that's

671
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,039
two towns away from where you live. That's one of the most award winning

672
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:24,239
chapters in the state. I think
you should go and just sharpen your tools.

673
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:30,280
Yeah, and that conversation is why
I'm where I'm at right now.

674
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,400
Wow. His name, as well
as the friend who got me to pursue

675
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:38,639
radio, they're both named Daniel,
and I recently looked up when a podcast

676
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:44,360
host asked, where does the Guardian
Angel Daniel signify? I had to look

677
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,039
it up. Yeah, delivers eloquence, confidence, help you share a message.

678
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:52,559
He's a patron saint of artists.
Everything I've done because of two people

679
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:59,159
named Daniel directly related to the mission
of the Guardian Angel Daniel. Yeah,

680
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,320
you know, if you choose to
believe in that stuff. I mean I

681
00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:05,800
read it and was just, yeah, in awe of what it said.

682
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:12,199
It perfectly explains everything, and so
you you're motivational speaking and your stand up

683
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,079
comedy career effectively started at the same
time. Then exactly the same moment.

684
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,320
Yeah, the two of the four
I hadn't done yet because my first book

685
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,039
had just come out at that time. So I did the radio DJ and

686
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:25,599
the author thing. Yeah, stand
up comedy and teacher of people, but

687
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:31,000
not in a classroom became speaking.
Okay, okay um, I have to

688
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:35,159
I have to ask you this because
you said you blew up your radio career.

689
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,760
I love I'm a radio nerd.
I love radio war stories. I

690
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,840
don't know how much you want to
say about it. So if it's not

691
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,079
something you want to talk about,
but if you're open, if you're open

692
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:46,119
to talking about it, I'd love
to hear the story. Oh yeah,

693
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,760
my first two years of radio nineteen
ninety two to early ninety four, we're

694
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,519
a station called WCGY, which was
ninety three point seven just north of Boston.

695
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:57,960
Yeah, I remember cg Y.
Yeah, they sold the station.

696
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,840
We all got fired. Ended at
rock on a one W gi R in

697
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,800
Manchester. I was the morning show
producer, silent Steve on the backster in

698
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,480
the morning show for three years.
Radio station got sold. We all got

699
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:14,639
fired. Yeah, and I just
won the biggest award the station had ever

700
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,679
won for comedy bit that I wrote
out of all radio stations, Oh wow,

701
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,760
United States, Canada, Mexico,
and the UK comedy bit that I

702
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:29,199
wrote one. I still got fired
because they got sold. Yeah, and

703
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,000
I landed in the Late region.
For four years we built up a classic

704
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:35,239
rock station. Somebody came in one
day and said, hey, Steve Scott,

705
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,559
the owner is going through a divorce. You might have to sell the

706
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:42,239
radio stations. And I snapped,
really and I was exhausted. I worked

707
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,840
fifteen years worth of hours in ten
I was exhausted. My marriage was showing

708
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,159
signs of cracking. I was fried. I owned a DJ business, so

709
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,840
I was djaying all weekend pretty much
every weekend, yea, and work in

710
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,159
sixty hours a week, an hour
and a quarter from home. Oh wow.

711
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,079
And I just snapped, yeah,
and I handed in my notice and

712
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,760
quit, and then my marriage fell
apart, and then I was tens of

713
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,800
thousands in debt. I'd just taken
out a thirty thousand dollars line of credit

714
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,320
to build my recording studio. Yeah, the first one. Yeah, and

715
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:15,719
blew it all up. Oh wow, I don't recommend that. Yeah,

716
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,199
that approached. While it worked for
me in the long run, I mean

717
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,320
that scarred me for a long time
because I caused it. I couldn't blame

718
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,679
anybody else. What was it just
a matter of you just ran yourself into

719
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,119
the ground, so that that one
thing, because you weren't even being because

720
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:36,840
in that in that instance, you
weren't even being told that that you were

721
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,440
getting fired or anything. You were
just being told that it might happen,

722
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:42,559
right, But but you just were
so it sounds like you were just so

723
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,800
just burned out, just classic burnout, basically absolutely fried. And there's some

724
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,840
interpersonal stuff happening at that radio group
where you know, people of a certain

725
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:58,400
level, they don't like each other
because each one thinks that the other person's

726
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,320
getting favored or whatever, and egos
step in and I had one, just

727
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,639
like anybody else. I was very
protective of my property. Yeah, but

728
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,920
inside the building, you've got your
allies and your perceived enemies. And I

729
00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:13,920
was fighting with a couple of other
people constantly, and I just said,

730
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:16,360
well, here's the way out,
and I just bailed. Wow. No,

731
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,719
don't recommend it. Yeah, I
do not recommend that approach for people.

732
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,039
A matter of fact, somebody said
the other day to me in a

733
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,239
direct message on Facebook, Yes,
Stephen, thinking of chucking it all and

734
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,599
doing what you did and starting over. And I said, let's get on

735
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:36,039
a zoom call. Let me tell
you the potential repercussions of that. Do

736
00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:42,079
I regret doing it now? No? Because it put into motion everything I'm

737
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:49,119
doing now and also discovering the absolute
love of my life and everything happened.

738
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,880
You know, I don't regret all
of those things. Yeah, now because

739
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,400
of what I've been able to create
from the ashes of that. Right to

740
00:47:55,519 --> 00:48:00,360
me, it worked. And tell
me about So you're also on author?

741
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:07,079
Yes, and you had you had
written books or a book prior to when

742
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:10,679
you started your stand up in your
motivational career. You said you had already

743
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:15,360
You're already an author at that point. I was because I had my DJ

744
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:17,400
business. Yeah, I've in djaying
weddings at that point for a number of

745
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,840
years, since the fall of nineteen
ninety three, is when he started with

746
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,599
a friends company, and then within
a year I had my own. Yeah.

747
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,440
It was a collection of short stories
about the most bizarre things that survived

748
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:34,239
as a wedding DJ. It's called
Table seven Your Centerpieces on Fire and a

749
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,239
dear friend of mine wrote three chapters
and I thirteenth of mine. So that

750
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:43,440
was my very first book. The
other three books started the personal development positivity

751
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,719
stuff, but that one was written
at the lowest point in my life and

752
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:53,519
it was very well received and a
reviewer called it required reading for nervous brides.

753
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,760
Did be a big favor with that
review, and it sold a pretty

754
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,480
decent amount of copies. Oh that's
cool. That's cool. Isaac Banks is

755
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,360
our friend from one of our friends
from Greensboro, North Carolina, was asking

756
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,599
in the chat room who your favorite
comedian is. My favorite comedian I've got

757
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:15,559
several for different reasons. I love
Robin Williams, yeah, for his ability

758
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:22,000
to just be energetic and be able
to take anything around him and create material

759
00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:28,639
with it. Oh yeah, and
I love some of the storytellers. What's

760
00:49:28,639 --> 00:49:30,719
his name? From the blue Collar
comedy to a Ron Ron White? Oh

761
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,559
yeah, I love Ron White's approach. Me too, I really do.

762
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,840
Of all the blue collar guys,
he was always my favorite. Me too.

763
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:44,079
Oh, I always thought he is
on a completely different level than the

764
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:47,119
other three. Yeah, by far, we have a call. Louis is

765
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:52,239
on the line. Hello, is
this Matt Connerson? Yes it is.

766
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,639
Hey. Listen, remember what I
told you about Mike last week. He's

767
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:01,239
got a wholest named after to his
son running right now with Finger Lakes,

768
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:07,559
New York. Matt Doyle number eight. Everyone's down on this horse, very

769
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:12,840
heavy, six to five. He's
a huge favorite. I gotta go watch

770
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,639
the race now. But he owns
his horse. The name of the horse

771
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:21,480
is Matt Doyle. Matta. I
gotta go now and watch the race,

772
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:27,199
all right, Good luck to Matt
Doyle. That was Louie Louie Angelidas.

773
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,880
I think it is how you say
his name. Nice. Interesting? Um.

774
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,119
Oh so now we we talked about
it off air, but a little

775
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:38,559
bit. But we talked about Tony
Robbins. But do you have I mean

776
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,719
might be an odd question, but
as a motivational speaker, do you have.

777
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:50,159
Are there other motivational speakers who have
kind of influenced you, much like

778
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:53,960
say certain stand up comics might influence
you, or or if you're a musician,

779
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:58,440
you know musicians might influence you.
Are there motivational speakers who have influenced

780
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,800
you? Definitely? Jack Canfield was
always a favorite of mine because Jack is

781
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,079
the same on and off stage.
He's just one of those people. He's

782
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:08,679
a storyteller, but he's a very
matter of fact and I'm not I'm not

783
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:14,280
into the ra ra rod by my
stuff speakers anymore. Yeah, the lasers,

784
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,760
the fog, the thundering music and
all of that jumping up and down.

785
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:22,760
Not into that. Jack Hanfield is
always a favorite. Ed my Lett

786
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:29,119
is somebody I respect a great deal. And also Mel Robbins I love because

787
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:34,280
she's so she's a lot like what
I am. Very in your face,

788
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,840
matter of fact. Here's this,
try this, and she's just very direct.

789
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:44,199
I'm not into the very woo woo
type of speakers. Although when I

790
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,960
do the visualization work, people go
that it's too woo woo from me.

791
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,199
I said, well, look the
way I explain it, it's blue collar

792
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,039
woo because that's my background. I'm
a blue collar, work ethic and valued

793
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:55,440
guy. Right, I will teach
you how you can construct it with your

794
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,800
hammer and your nails and a piece
of wood, how to build what I'm

795
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,679
talking about without being all woo woo
about it. So those are three of

796
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,840
my favorites. And I've gotten away
from the big, thundering, over the

797
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:14,280
top motivational stuff. So the Tony
Robbins, it's just not I just don't

798
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,239
respond to it like his earlier stuff. And then of course you get the

799
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,599
people to go well, Steve,
if Tony invited, you'd be on one

800
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:22,480
of the stages, you'd say no, no, I'd say yes, of

801
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:24,280
course, and I would. You
would announce me, and I'd come out

802
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,559
and I say, Tony, thank
you so much for having me here.

803
00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:30,519
Do me a favor. I'd like
the house lights halfway up, DJ,

804
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,559
please turn off the music, get
rid of that fog, lasers off,

805
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,360
and I would walk out and I
would sit on the front of the stage

806
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,880
with my legs dangling and have an
intimate conversation with twenty five thousand people about

807
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,800
why I became a speaker and why
I'm there. That would be how I

808
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,719
would respond to that, and I
would just go out and be me see

809
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,760
as a Kiss fan, I like
the Lasers and the Pyro. Yeah,

810
00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:59,079
I'm a big Kiss fan. Belade
the first decade, Yeah, the original

811
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,039
guys. But the show I mean
that for me is World the Magic Happened.

812
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:05,039
Yeah, Yeah, I'm a I'm
a I love all eras of the

813
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:07,159
band. But no, we were
kind of talking off air too about and

814
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:13,840
I don't know if anyone listening.
Uh. I read a couple of Tony

815
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,679
Robbins books early on. I was
I was a fan and I used to

816
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:21,320
kind of get a kick out of
those back in the days of late night

817
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,280
infomercials and maybe they still run I
don't know on cable television, but I

818
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,119
used to kind of get a kick
out of those. But um, but

819
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,400
uh, the if you go on
YouTube and I don't think he's always done

820
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,639
this, but um, he swears
a lot. Yeah, and it becomes

821
00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:45,480
and it comes across as very cringe
because like he's dropping all these f bombs

822
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:50,679
and it's like, is he trying
to The cringe part is it seems very

823
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,199
forced, like he's trying to be
edgy because he thinks that that's how you

824
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,960
pull people in and it's and it, but he does it so much it's

825
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,960
like, oh God, like why
you know. Yeah, I saw him

826
00:54:02,039 --> 00:54:07,719
live two thousand, I believe,
January two thousand down in Boston. It

827
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,800
was one of those all day events
where he gets all his buddies. Everybody

828
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,559
gets forty five minutes and ten minutes
into their presentation, they're just selling their

829
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:20,280
stuff anyway. Yeah, and that
was the time, right about when he

830
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,360
started to really get over the top
with the swearing and stuff. And look,

831
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,239
I don't you know, swearing doesn't
necessarily bother me. Oh, it

832
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,480
doesn't offend me. I just think
it's cringe when he when he does it

833
00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:32,599
something I respond to when I'm trying
to put my life together in a certain

834
00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:36,440
way. That's a bit over the
top. And it did seem forced as

835
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,119
well. Yeah, And the danger
of that is and I know this firsthand

836
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:44,039
because a dear friend of mine,
one of my biggest, most loyal speaking

837
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:46,639
clients, attended an event. She
drove all the way up into Vermont to

838
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:51,599
support a friend of hers who was
starting to do speaking. Yeah, and

839
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,920
he went into a room it was
about sixty percent women and forty percent men,

840
00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:00,719
and he started doing basically his Tony
Robbins impression. This is real estate

841
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,800
people, and he's swearing and cursing
and stomping and all that, and he

842
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,639
drove all the women out of the
room within twenty minutes. Oh wow.

843
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,639
My friend went to him during the
break and said, what do you do?

844
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,079
And he goes, oh, this
is great, ast powerful. I

845
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:15,559
saw Tony Robbins stewart, so I
thought I would do it too, And

846
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,719
she goes, Um, some of
the ladies left skid marks leaving the parking

847
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,960
lot because it just it's not authentic
to him. Now that's authentic to Tony.

848
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:28,360
Now hey, fine, yeah,
pow or too. You do it.

849
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,960
I mean, you're billionaire, you
don't mind my opinion, right,

850
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,039
But I would never get on a
stage and try to be something i'm not

851
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:37,679
because people can tell when it's forced. Yeah, yeah, I kind of

852
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,760
have a It's interesting too that you
tell me about how it drove drove the

853
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,519
women off, because I've I've been
like this my whole life. Well,

854
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:45,800
I don't I don't swear much to
begin with. I mean, I'm not

855
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,119
offended by it now. I'll drop
an F bomb at an appropriate moment,

856
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:52,199
but some people, like I've been
around a lot of people who you know,

857
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,400
they use the F word like a
comma, just in conversation, and

858
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,519
it's like, okay, you do
realize that you're saying it so much it

859
00:55:59,559 --> 00:56:01,280
doesn't after a while, it doesn't
mean anything. Like south Park did an

860
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,679
episode about that with the S word, you know, where you know,

861
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,719
if you use it so much,
after a while, it's like, what's

862
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,639
even the point. What's the point
of swearing When you use it so much

863
00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:13,320
it doesn't mean anything. But I've
always had a rule too, and I

864
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,079
think I think my dad might have
kind of instilled this in me. I

865
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:22,239
generally or very rarely do I swear
in front of women. I was kind

866
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,760
of just raised with that, like, you know, it's one thing if

867
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,639
you're around dudes. And I hope
nobody takes this wrong and thinks I'm being

868
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,360
sexist, because I don't because I
don't mean to be. It's it's it's

869
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:36,360
out of respect because I have so
much respect for women, and I think

870
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,519
it's important. I think if to
be a real man is to be respectful

871
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:44,480
to women, and um, so
I you know, I certainly don't mean

872
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:49,960
any sex anything sexist by it,
but I very rarely do I swear around

873
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,400
women, I just think it's women
and children. You just don't have children

874
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,679
obviously. But you know, it's
like and when I hear, like when

875
00:56:55,679 --> 00:57:00,920
I'm out in public and I hear
somebody swear, I mean, you shouldn't

876
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,239
be, you know, if you're
in a store or something, you shouldn't

877
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,760
be dropping F bombs anywhere where other
people can are, other people can hear

878
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,840
you, because you never know,
you don't know what somebody's sensitivities might be.

879
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:14,000
And I'm kind of a stickler.
I'm unfailingly polite generally anyway, but

880
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,559
but especially like when I hear a
dude like dropping F bombs and there's women

881
00:57:17,639 --> 00:57:21,280
around, it's like, you know, I don't know. To me,

882
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:27,519
it's very um uncouth. I don't
know. I don't know else to say

883
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:30,639
it, but you know what I
mean. And so to get on stage

884
00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:34,880
and do that, you know,
unless it's a stand up comedy show.

885
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,239
If it's a stand up comedy show
and it's a comic who works blue,

886
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,400
obviously the women in the audience know
that going in, so that that's that's

887
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,320
fine. I don't want anybody to
think, oh, Matt doesn't think Chris

888
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,760
Rock should be swearing in front of
women on stage. No, I'm not

889
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,039
saying that, but but yeah,
but I can imagine though these women at

890
00:57:51,079 --> 00:57:54,320
the you know there there that's Tony
Robbins and they're you know, having to

891
00:57:54,440 --> 00:58:00,119
listen to that. That's that's got
to be a pretty jarring Yeah. And

892
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,559
I've always been a person where I
would rather use my creativity. Now I

893
00:58:04,639 --> 00:58:07,400
could. I could be adult in
nature, like I said back when I

894
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,760
did stand up comedy, Yeah,
it could be adult in nature, but

895
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,960
it was never offensive. Yeah.
And somebody came up one time and said,

896
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,280
Steve, you didn't swear the whole
time, Like, yeah, I

897
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,599
mean that's that's part of the thing
for me. You know, I may

898
00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:22,559
drop one, you know, not
real bad one here and there. Yeah,

899
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:27,000
And then the person started laughing,
because but you're funny as hell.

900
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:30,239
Man. Do you paint pictures with
words? Yeah? You very cleverly said

901
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,599
what those other guys said by dropping
f bombs, right, you You got

902
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,199
clever with it and painted a picture
and let us go with it where we

903
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,559
chose to go. And I would
rather be clever. You know, if

904
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:45,880
you go back to the movie Spinal
Tap, it's a fine line between stupid

905
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,639
and clever. It's one of my
absolute favorite favorite films. But it's true.

906
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,840
Yeah, if you put that little
bit of extra effort and you can,

907
00:58:53,039 --> 00:58:57,360
you can go right to the edge
and maybe lean over it, but

908
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,480
your foot doesn't cross it with the
obvious, you know, the not to

909
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:06,199
say that it's lower class, but
the lowest common denominator way. And even

910
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,800
as a speaker, I do that. You know, some people may just

911
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:14,079
be rah rah bro jumping up and
down getting people to yell. I can

912
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:15,480
do it, just leven off the
front of the stage, paint the picture

913
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:20,760
and being in more control of who
I am and not just getting caught up

914
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,360
in energy energy energy. I'd rather
be able to keep it high, low,

915
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:29,599
fast, slow and paint a picture
and then re element at a certain

916
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:32,719
spot with that within a tenth of
a second of exactly the right amount of

917
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,360
timing. You look somebody the eye
and they nod and they don't even know

918
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,599
they're doing it, and you go, Okay, there's one connection. Let

919
00:59:39,639 --> 00:59:43,679
me find somebody else. Let me
find somebody else. That to me is

920
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:51,800
much better and more impactful than just
you know, getting that mass hysteria going

921
00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:57,679
yeah with sometimes you know, maybe
the lowest common denominator shock value type of

922
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,800
word. Well, when you when
you speak quietly to people too well,

923
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,480
or if you do that, you
know, you go high, you go

924
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:07,320
low, you go you know.
As as a hypnotist, I understand this

925
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,440
as well. But you know,
you can really pull people in, you

926
01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:13,079
know. And it's it's the old
actor's trick too, you know, you

927
01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:15,840
speak quietly and then people they're forced
to pay more attention to you, you

928
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,719
know. And obviously I use that
too, and hypnosis, but yeah,

929
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:27,679
yeah, um so do you I
mean, when you get up and speak

930
01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:30,800
in front of people, how how
long is that do you do? Or

931
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,800
does it vary? It probably varies
depending on the kind of event, right,

932
01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:37,480
it varies. I used to just
tell people however long it is,

933
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:40,239
they'll fill the time. Yeah.
The sweet spot for me is generally forty

934
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:45,000
five to sixty minutes. Yeah,
for a keynote presentation. That's that's my

935
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:50,280
sweet spot. I am a sprinter, not a long distance runner. Yeah.

936
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,239
I know, people who can do
all day trainings, Oh my gosh,

937
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:58,719
staple might shoes to the floor.
That's not my sweet spot. Yeah.

938
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,119
And as my career has grown,
I've gotten much more open and honest,

939
01:01:02,199 --> 01:01:05,000
right up front. Look, this
is what I do, This is

940
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:07,320
how I do it, This is
how I dress. You know, you

941
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,000
can see me today. I'm wearing
jeans and a black T shirt that has

942
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:13,039
got vision. This is what I
wear on stage now. Yeah, and

943
01:01:13,159 --> 01:01:15,639
I just tell people this is who
I am. If I'm a good fit,

944
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:22,039
great And ever since I set those
boundaries, things have gotten better open

945
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:24,000
and honest about what I say what
I don't. Some people say, Steve,

946
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:27,119
we need you to talk about this
topic. I don't talk about that

947
01:01:27,239 --> 01:01:30,960
topic. Somebody asked me to come
to a bullying conference once for teens,

948
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,920
and they said, we need you
to speak on bullying. I said,

949
01:01:32,199 --> 01:01:36,039
you do not want me to speak
on bullying. I said why not?

950
01:01:36,119 --> 01:01:38,880
I said, because I you know, my personal belief is it's okay to

951
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,800
punch a bully square in the face. And when you're on the ground breeding,

952
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,679
you explain to them bullying is wrong, and then you help them up.

953
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,039
And the director of that event goes, yeah, we can't have you

954
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:54,199
say that. I told you.
I told you that's not what you want

955
01:01:54,239 --> 01:01:57,920
me. You know this is probably
not the message you want, right.

956
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,039
You know, I wasn't bullied severely. But I had a bully for a

957
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:05,199
little bit when I was a kid, and there was one day that I

958
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:07,840
basically, you know, we're not
him. Yeah, and we became friends

959
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:13,000
after that. Yeah. That that
can well. Yeah, if you stand

960
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:16,519
up to people, they'll respect him
or certainly. Yeah, Melanie said something

961
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:22,159
funny in the chat. He said, I'm now envisioning him swearing. Look

962
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:25,920
who's you've seen your weapons against you? Now? Oh I'm not saying I

963
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:31,679
never swear. Yeah, I'm just
more appropriate, yea than ever before.

964
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,760
And I will ask people, you
know, what's the temperature of the room.

965
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,000
Yeah, yeah, And that's all. It's just to know what to

966
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:42,480
do. But it's it's so much
more fun to paint pictures with words and

967
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,199
some of my favorite lines to deliver
ever on stage or actually in a loud

968
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,480
whisper on a microphone. Really everybody
leans in and then I say it,

969
01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:53,840
and then when they get the picture
they crack up. Yeah. I could

970
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:59,079
have just done it with a swear, but do it that way. Just

971
01:02:59,159 --> 01:03:02,639
try to be more aging. Yeah. Yeah. Alex Whiteley says, Steve,

972
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,960
do you have to get all the
bad juju out before you go on

973
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,559
stage? So I guess yeah,
yes, yeah, is there a mental

974
01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:14,159
process you go? It's important.
A lot of times for me it comes

975
01:03:14,199 --> 01:03:16,440
down to music of a certain song
in my head, or I'll play to

976
01:03:16,519 --> 01:03:22,400
my AirPods or something before I go
on stage. Yeah, or in my

977
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,599
Tina. I always call her my
Tina. But if I just say Tina,

978
01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:29,280
people go, you didn't say my
Tina, It's something wrong. So

979
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:34,559
my Tina, my wife Tina will
text me five to ten minutes before I

980
01:03:34,639 --> 01:03:37,079
go on stage, and she goes, hey, baby, I'm thinking about

981
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:38,719
you. I know you're gonna be
awesome today. Go go do a great

982
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:46,079
job that lights me up so much
that it gets rid of anything else.

983
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:52,039
I'm riding that energy. And if
she's not available or I don't have a

984
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:54,719
cell signal and can't get a text
from her, I will listen to a

985
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,599
song or something that gets me in
a good mood. Or I'll go watch

986
01:03:59,639 --> 01:04:02,639
a fun a YouTube video or something
right before I go on. So I'm

987
01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:06,599
in that emotion and people ask to
go, Steve, don't you ever get

988
01:04:06,679 --> 01:04:12,440
nervous? And I always say,
look, I only get nervous every time.

989
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:16,440
The first ninety seconds for me can
be the most nerve wracking time on

990
01:04:16,639 --> 01:04:23,039
stage because I need to get a
laugh verse sixty to ninety seconds, and

991
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,000
I'll always jump in with something either
tied to the theme of the event or

992
01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:30,599
the name of the company or something. Yeah, to get a laugh and

993
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,559
make the first connection. Yep.
And as soon as I get it,

994
01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:36,559
oh, it's on. Yeah,
We're there. Yeah. And if it

995
01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:40,760
doesn't, I just keep working harder
and harder, gauge the crowd, change

996
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,599
my approach. Yeah, you know, it's not. I don't just go

997
01:04:43,719 --> 01:04:47,360
up and read the same script all
the time. It's it's it's establishing connection

998
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:55,280
early on and then flowing from there. Our friend Alfredo Enrique Benavitas, also

999
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,840
known simply as Fredo, very talented
musician. He's on the chat room,

1000
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,480
he says, Dewey Cock thinks about
his entire life before he goes on stage.

1001
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:08,159
You've seen that movie part of it
recently, Walk Hard. That's such

1002
01:05:08,199 --> 01:05:11,639
a great that is such a great
film. It's it's very funny, and

1003
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,400
those characters in the writing are brilliant
in that movie. So thank you for

1004
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:16,840
that. It's a good laugh.
That was an excellent, excellent reference,

1005
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:23,000
Alfredo. Um oh, boy,
Melanie said something I don't even want to

1006
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,920
read on the air. By the
way, have you always been a natural

1007
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:36,239
extrovert? Or is that okay?
I am a hardwired introvert. Interesting and

1008
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:41,079
most people don't believe it, but
it is true. I am a relatively

1009
01:05:41,159 --> 01:05:45,400
quiet trying to be an extrovert for
years. Yeah, and just felt so

1010
01:05:45,719 --> 01:05:49,039
fake with it. And now I
just I come out and play and I

1011
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:55,280
go right back to just my quiet
life. I am exactly the same way.

1012
01:05:56,119 --> 01:06:00,280
I Yeah, people are surprised because
you know, people if I tell

1013
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,599
people that about me though, people
who don't know me very well this day,

1014
01:06:02,679 --> 01:06:04,960
But how do you do a so
how do you do a radio show?

1015
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:08,679
Or you know, I used to
play in bands? How did you

1016
01:06:08,719 --> 01:06:11,760
get up on stage and playing bands
and stuff? And what I explain to

1017
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,360
people? And you know this is
as you know, this is common with

1018
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:19,119
introverts, is um. We tend
to be more comfortable in a performance setting,

1019
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:23,840
you know, like behind behind a
microphone. This is where I actually

1020
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:29,960
feel the safest. I'm much I
feel much safer here or on a stage,

1021
01:06:30,039 --> 01:06:31,840
playing in a band, or a
public speaking which a lot of people

1022
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,760
are terrified by. I have no
problem any kind of any kind of performance

1023
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:41,599
type thing being on television, whatever
it is. That's where I feel the

1024
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:47,440
safestum much more so than like I
don't go to parties. You know,

1025
01:06:47,639 --> 01:06:51,880
even in high school, I didn't
like doing that. Uh I don't I

1026
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:57,119
you know, Uh, it's not
and it's not that I'm anti social or

1027
01:06:57,159 --> 01:07:00,079
anything like that, you know,
I'm just I'm more comfortable in some sort

1028
01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:05,960
of performance setting that I am in
just you know, normal interactions with people.

1029
01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:11,559
I'm horrible at making small talk with
people. That's like my worst thing.

1030
01:07:11,719 --> 01:07:15,559
Like if somebody, if if I
run into somebody i haven't seen in

1031
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:17,480
a while and they say to me, like my least favorite question to ever

1032
01:07:17,559 --> 01:07:20,440
be asked is when someone says to
me, so, what's new with you?

1033
01:07:21,519 --> 01:07:26,679
Like something inside of me sinks when
I hear those words. It's like,

1034
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,280
oh God, because then I feel
this pressure like I have to respond

1035
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,599
with something interesting, but I don't
have anything interesting. So I'm just gonna

1036
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:38,719
say, oh, not much,
which a lot of the time isn't even

1037
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,159
true. I probably do have interesting
things going on, I just don't feel

1038
01:07:42,159 --> 01:07:46,360
like explaining it all to this person
who who I'm having this brief interaction with,

1039
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,840
and then we're just gonna go about
our you know, I just I

1040
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,559
don't even like it's almost like I
don't even want to put an effort to

1041
01:07:51,679 --> 01:07:57,599
have that conversation because to me,
it's just performative and it's like, you

1042
01:07:57,679 --> 01:08:00,880
know, you know, I just
I'm that kind of introvert. I hate

1043
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,679
small talk, you know. Even
meeting you outside, we didn't have small

1044
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:09,519
talk. You notice that, like, like, because so the audience doesn't

1045
01:08:09,559 --> 01:08:12,559
know this, but I ran into
you on the street and I knew it

1046
01:08:12,639 --> 01:08:15,519
was you right away because of your
shirt, and so I introduced myself.

1047
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,439
Like we we got right into I
don't know what what did. I don't

1048
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,680
even remember what we talked about,
but it was we went right into an

1049
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:26,920
interesting conversation, you know what I
mean. There was no like, um,

1050
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:31,039
I don't know. It wasn't chit
chat. It was an actual conversation

1051
01:08:31,159 --> 01:08:34,479
right from the moment we met.
Yeah, and that's what I prefer because

1052
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,439
I can't do the whole Yeah.
Oh boy, the weather it sure is

1053
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,920
hot. Oh, I can't do
it. Yeah. And I was big

1054
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,840
in networking for years. I was
a member of B and I Business Networking

1055
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,119
International. I was the lead trainer
for the State of New Hampshire. I

1056
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:53,680
was one of the assistant directors.
Yeah, and I cringe now when people

1057
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,680
say, hey, Steve, we're
going to a networking event. Yeah.

1058
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,640
I was the dancing monkey for many
years, center of attention guy all that.

1059
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:02,920
It wasn't really me and I was
not comfortable in that skin. So

1060
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:08,399
I developed a question that I would
ask people at networking events. Yeah,

1061
01:09:09,119 --> 01:09:10,720
they'd come up and say, so, Steve, what do you do?

1062
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,920
I said, well, I have
a question for you. Who was your

1063
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,760
favorite person you got to help this
week or what was your favorite chat,

1064
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,880
you know, pain you made go
away for somebody. Yeah, And we

1065
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:24,399
would instantly have these incredible conversations because
they'd say, huh, well we had

1066
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,159
this person come in with this,
and all of a sudden, there I'm

1067
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:30,000
watching them relive the joy of helping
somebody. Yeah, and then they would

1068
01:09:30,039 --> 01:09:31,880
ask me, so what do you
do, and I'd just look at them

1069
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:38,159
and go this, that's conversations like
this. Yeah, that flipped the switch

1070
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:42,479
for me with regard to networking.
That's smart. It made it purposeful and

1071
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,880
real. I got to have some
really good conversations because I'm not a big

1072
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,840
fan of the idle chit chat.
Yeah, yeah. Oh it's painful to

1073
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,439
me. It's like physically painful.
So that I'm going to try to adapt

1074
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,439
that strategy. We have a call. Our friend Ron is on the line.

1075
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,720
Hi, Ron, Hey, Matt, what snow? What's up with

1076
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,600
you? Oh? God, you're
killing me? Nothing? Nothing, nothing's

1077
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,119
newer up. I caught the show
a little bit on the tail end.

1078
01:10:05,399 --> 01:10:10,520
Yes, and I wonder if you
could reintroduce your guest in you know what

1079
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,199
he's all about? And uh,
And I'll leave it said, because I

1080
01:10:13,279 --> 01:10:16,079
am curious so far from what I've
been listening. But I have no idea

1081
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:19,920
this guy could be a you know, nuclear scientist or however or whatever.

1082
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,000
So I wonder if you could get
me up to speed. Oh okay,

1083
01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:26,720
Ron, I appreciate that. Thank
you. Well, we'll do that immediately.

1084
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,600
Bye bye, all right, bye
bye. I actually, honestly,

1085
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,079
as a radio guy, I should
be much better about that anyway. I

1086
01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:36,319
you know, sometimes I have this
habit of I almost run the show more

1087
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:40,359
like a podcast than a radio show. It's a bad habit that I have.

1088
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,880
I think it's because I started out
podcasting. But yes, this is

1089
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,239
nuclear physicist Steve Gamblin. No,
he's uh. I am the last guy

1090
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:49,520
who want to charge of technology like
that, especially something that could you know,

1091
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:54,520
end the world. Right if if
technology is left up to me,

1092
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,279
believe me, we'd still be running
from dinosaurs in trying to discover fire.

1093
01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:01,920
No, but I'll actually I'll let
you. You would do a better job

1094
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,680
than I would. Go ahead and
for ron and listeners just joining us,

1095
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,279
tell us what you do. Yeah, my name is Steve Gamblin. I

1096
01:11:08,359 --> 01:11:13,119
enjoy life as a professional speaker,
blending motivation, positivity, and humor.

1097
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,640
Do a lot with visualization to help
people to see what their goals are and

1098
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,880
how to build an action plan to
get there. And I also get to

1099
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:25,239
do some fun things like write books, and other professional speakers actually pay me

1100
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:30,159
to make their material Funnier's yeah,
that's one of my favorite parts of what

1101
01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:33,079
I do. Is the smallest pillar
under the business, but it's a great

1102
01:11:33,119 --> 01:11:35,920
deal of joy. And I do
voiceover work as well. Yeah yeah,

1103
01:11:36,119 --> 01:11:39,800
yeah, Well the first time I
heard your voice was that birthday message to

1104
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,880
Jenny. That's why I'm here,
which is very perfect. You know,

1105
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,560
we talk about opportunities and little things. Yeah, because a week ago I

1106
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,399
got on the microphone in my studio
and sent a message to my Facebook friend

1107
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:55,159
Jenny. Yep, who I don't
think i'd ever have a conversation with before.

1108
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:59,560
Yeah, that's why I'm here.
So we talk about taking those actions

1109
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,840
and put things out there, even
if we don't know. I didn't expect

1110
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,279
it. Yeah, I didn't know
you were connected. Yep, here we

1111
01:12:05,359 --> 01:12:09,920
are. Yeah, yeah, here
we are. So thank you absolutely absolutely

1112
01:12:10,399 --> 01:12:13,560
U if you'd like to enter the
discussion six zo three two five h six

1113
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,560
O seven six zo three two five
six seven. Oh wow, it's already

1114
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,880
we're a bit past the top of
the hour. Are you okay or do

1115
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,960
you need to go? I'm good, you stay a little bit longer.

1116
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:25,479
I'm good. Awesome, awesome.
Um oh yeah, Jenny, I just

1117
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,920
said in the Chadian Matt and I
were talking about that you are a great

1118
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,960
guest. Um. Yeah, can
you tell me too about Um this is

1119
01:12:32,039 --> 01:12:35,640
something I saw in your bio or
it might have been in something else that

1120
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:40,119
you had sent us something about.
And I hadn't thought about this in a

1121
01:12:40,199 --> 01:12:45,800
long time, but The Secret,
and I've seen the DVD a long time

1122
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,840
ago when The Secret came out and
for people who don't remember, oh,

1123
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:54,039
Jenny says my plane broke llol delayed
again. That sucks. Well, at

1124
01:12:54,119 --> 01:12:57,520
least she's in a It's Manchester is
a nice airport. Um. But I

1125
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,439
remember the DVD coming out what was
at that like middle two thousands, it

1126
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,680
was two thousand and four to two
thousand and five, because I had it

1127
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:12,399
as well, okay, And I
remember watching it, and I remember thinking

1128
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:17,359
at the time, I think,
I think they're giving out. I think

1129
01:13:17,399 --> 01:13:20,880
this is a bad idea in one
sense, and that I don't believe that

1130
01:13:21,039 --> 01:13:25,640
you can just you know, wish
really hard for something and it's just going

1131
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:30,119
to come to you. And by
the way the way they present it there.

1132
01:13:30,279 --> 01:13:32,199
And I know there's a book too, which I've never read, but

1133
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:36,800
I did watch the DVD just out
of curiosity. And I think the other

1134
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,880
thing too I noticed with it at
the time. See, I'm something of

1135
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:45,760
an anti materialist. I don't material
possessions, expensive things, don't, you

1136
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,520
know, unless they have a purpose, a practical purpose, they don't really

1137
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:55,159
turn me on. So you know, when they're talking in this uh DVD

1138
01:13:55,279 --> 01:14:00,560
about you know, if you visualize
the Lamborghini you want and then eventually you'll

1139
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,159
have it, It's like, I
don't really care about having a Lamborghini,

1140
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:08,439
So what does this do for me? So I didn't like it was it

1141
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:13,560
had a very materialistic element to it. On the positive side, I do

1142
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,039
believe that the energy that you put
out is what you give back. So

1143
01:14:17,159 --> 01:14:20,399
if you put positive energy out into
the world, you're more apt to get

1144
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:26,239
positive energy back. Whether you want
to think of that in terms of it

1145
01:14:26,359 --> 01:14:30,960
being a metaphysical thing, or maybe
maybe it's not metaphysical. Maybe that's just

1146
01:14:30,079 --> 01:14:32,840
how life works. For example,
if you're nice to people, they're more

1147
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,520
likely to be nice to you in
return. If you're mean to people,

1148
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:40,039
they're more likely to be mean you. So that can work in different ways.

1149
01:14:40,079 --> 01:14:42,640
There are different ways to think about
it. But the whole energy thing

1150
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:47,760
as a broader concept I do believe
is basically true. But the way they

1151
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,880
presented it, I was like,
this almost it's it's almost like they're trying

1152
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,960
to pull you into some sort of
a multi level marketing scheme. The way

1153
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,920
they're you know, visualize the mansion
that you want and eventually you'll have it.

1154
01:14:59,039 --> 01:15:02,640
It's like, kind of this is
actually kind of terrible in a way.

1155
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:08,479
But the secret came up in something
that you had sent me, So

1156
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,079
I was curious to get your thoughts
on it, very similar to everything you

1157
01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:14,520
just said, because I also did
not have the book. I had the

1158
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,960
DVD and I watched it a lot, and when I first got it was

1159
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,079
when my life was still kind of
in the ashes. Yeah. I made

1160
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:27,079
a point to watch it every Sunday
night for about eight nine weeks in a

1161
01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:30,279
row, really, And out of
the ninety eight minutes of the DVD,

1162
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,920
the thing that rubbed me the wrong
way the most is they had a genie

1163
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,159
in a magic lamp that kept popping
up and said, your wish is my

1164
01:15:36,319 --> 01:15:41,800
command. And I'm thinking it's not
that easy. Now, your energy can

1165
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,359
increase the odds that similar energy will
come back. Yes, it increases the

1166
01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:48,279
odds. There's no there's no cut
and dry, black and white. Yes

1167
01:15:48,319 --> 01:15:51,439
here. Yeah. Out of the
ninety eight minutes, two thirds of the

1168
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:56,640
way through, this guy John ast
Raft comes on, BOYD never heard of

1169
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,319
prior. Yeah, And he talks
about these things called vision board. And

1170
01:16:00,359 --> 01:16:01,560
he didn't teach them how to make
one. He just said, you find

1171
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,239
pictures of things you want to have, you put him in a place where

1172
01:16:05,279 --> 01:16:09,560
you can focus on them on a
regular basis. That's really all he said.

1173
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,640
Yeah, But what it turned out
was he was actually living in the

1174
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,119
exact house that he had put him
on his vision board years prior. Really,

1175
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,159
and also he had material stuff on
there as well, and like you

1176
01:16:19,239 --> 01:16:21,760
said, a lot of it was
all the material based stuff. Yeah,

1177
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,560
we'll pull the curtain on my industry. All those videos you see with the

1178
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,760
Lamborghinis in the mansions of the yacht, A lot of those rented for the

1179
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,680
videos, Oh of course, just
like yeah, like the mansion and it's

1180
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:38,560
echoing for days, right right,
Yeah, it's the shell of a mansion.

1181
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,600
You know, all our furniture is
getting cleaned, right, No,

1182
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,479
because my car's getting towed away,
right and the real owner of the yacht

1183
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:50,039
is sailing. Yeah, but that's
I also believe that to be the truth.

1184
01:16:50,199 --> 01:16:54,560
So I took from it what I
took from it, meaning the right

1185
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,079
energy, have a clear vision of
what you want, and I just kept

1186
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:00,680
going deeper and deeper into all the
eight areas of life. Ye to taking

1187
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,319
consistent action. It's not wishing for
a genie. How many people do we

1188
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:09,159
see say I want to be a
millionaire, and they're watching They're sitting on

1189
01:17:09,239 --> 01:17:15,720
their couch watching Powerball go from two
hundred billion, and they're going, I

1190
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:16,520
want to be rich. I want
to be rich. I want to rich.

1191
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,840
And so what are you doing?
They go, I'm manifesting. No,

1192
01:17:19,079 --> 01:17:24,479
you're not. Your your butt cheeks
in your couch cushion, need to

1193
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,760
get a divorce. You need to
walk all the way to the store or

1194
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:32,119
drive and actually buy a ticket.
Yeah, for it to even potentially happen.

1195
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,399
And the problem is too many people
think thinking or wishing is manifesting.

1196
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:41,439
It's not. Manifesting means, in
my opinion, to make to cause,

1197
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,039
to make happen, right, making
it real, which means you have to

1198
01:17:45,119 --> 01:17:50,720
take the action exactly, get there
exactly. Yeah. Um oh. Alex

1199
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,840
Whiteley and the Chatter says, they
did a great episode about vision boards on

1200
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,239
all Ways Sunny in Philadelphia. Did
you see that, Steve? I did

1201
01:17:58,359 --> 01:18:01,840
not. I think I've seen every
other vision board related thing in the world

1202
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:05,119
because my friends all send them to
me. Yeah, saying hey, look

1203
01:18:05,279 --> 01:18:11,000
it's that's stuff you talk about.
Fredo said, how about neutral energy?

1204
01:18:11,239 --> 01:18:15,520
I give math and receive math in
return. Well, I think that that's

1205
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,439
probably what a lot of people do. Actually, Yeah, that's kind of

1206
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,840
the middle ground. I think that's
where a lot of people are. Yeah,

1207
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,399
it's just in that. You know, there are some people that see

1208
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:28,720
me come in and smile or be
happy and it's too much for them really,

1209
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,960
and I'll dial it back, you
know, they're just they're not used

1210
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,520
to it. Yeah. You know. One of the things we love to

1211
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:38,760
do with with beach Bum Philanthropy is
maybe pay for the groceries of the person

1212
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,800
behind us if there's only a couple
of items. Well, I used to

1213
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,119
be over the top going hi,
my name is Steve, and I'm from

1214
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:46,039
a group called beach Bump Growthriy,
and I'm gonna pay for your groceries.

1215
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:54,279
That that was a big mistake.
And I watched the pride oh out of

1216
01:18:54,359 --> 01:18:58,079
this one woman's face because she felt
pitied. Oh, and I just I

1217
01:18:58,199 --> 01:19:00,600
shook my head and I said,
I'm so sorry, and she just held

1218
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:05,359
her hand up. I'm all set. Oh wow. And so I developed

1219
01:19:05,399 --> 01:19:09,800
an approach to it to just be
a little more gentle. Yeah, and

1220
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,000
say, excuse me. My name
is Stephen. I'm from a group called

1221
01:19:14,039 --> 01:19:17,560
beech Bum Philanthropy, and we're a
nonprofit and we each have to commit an

1222
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,600
active kindness every day and at this
time it was ten minutes of seven at

1223
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,239
night. I was supposed to be
home at six, yeah, and here

1224
01:19:25,239 --> 01:19:27,640
it is ten minutes of seven.
I'm going to get an ingredient we needed

1225
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,680
for dinner at six. So I
said, look, I haven't done my

1226
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:35,079
active kindness yet. It's almost seven
o'clock. And whoever doesn't do an active

1227
01:19:35,119 --> 01:19:39,359
kindness has to wash dishes after dinner. I don't like washing dishes, So

1228
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,439
if you would just let me pay
for those couple of items, I can

1229
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,399
skate free and not have to wash
a single dish tonight. And the gentleman

1230
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,239
looked at me, and he looked
at the young lady at the register.

1231
01:19:47,359 --> 01:19:50,600
She goes, it's okay, we
know his family. He's not being weird.

1232
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:56,840
And he said okay. It was
three dollars and ninety seven cents.

1233
01:19:57,119 --> 01:20:00,079
Yeah, And he held his hand
end out and I shook his hand,

1234
01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:03,720
and he looked up at me and
he said, my wife just passed away

1235
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,840
a couple of weeks ago, and
she used to do all the groceries,

1236
01:20:06,119 --> 01:20:10,720
so I'm feeling kind of lost here. Oh wow, And I just thought

1237
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,640
and I shook his hand. I
said, sir, I'm so sorry.

1238
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,159
For your loss. But I'm so
honored to have had this conversation and I

1239
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,680
wish you the best. Yeah.
And I walked out of the store.

1240
01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:26,199
And at the time, we're living
right up the street from the store,

1241
01:20:26,199 --> 01:20:28,279
and I walked in and my wife
looks at the clock and I said,

1242
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,800
I got a great story. Yeah. I was supposed to be at Hanaford.

1243
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:36,319
I was supposed to be fifty minutes
late for dinner because I just got

1244
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:42,520
to help this gentleman. Yeah.
And she goes, Wow, you went

1245
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,720
the long way around for that one. She goes, A good thing.

1246
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,399
He showed up. But see it
wasn't over the top. It was just

1247
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:54,359
it was it's kind of meeting somebody
where they're at and going five percent above

1248
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,359
yeah, yeah, and gently raising
their temperature to be a part of the

1249
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:01,479
moment. I mean, the the
man was almost crying, the young lady

1250
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:06,600
at the register was. And I
got emotional in that moment too, And

1251
01:21:08,119 --> 01:21:10,760
I mean, I just got to
relive that again. And yeah, I

1252
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,119
see it on the radio. But
I got goose bumps up and down both

1253
01:21:13,239 --> 01:21:15,520
arms like I was talking about earlier
when the access says memories, Yeah,

1254
01:21:16,279 --> 01:21:20,119
Alex Wiley said, now this is
interesting. He says, there's a geographical

1255
01:21:20,239 --> 01:21:26,479
energy exchange too. People in London
look down and barely acknowledge each other.

1256
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:33,199
People in Shrosphere couldn't be friendlier.
Why is that? I mean my only

1257
01:21:33,279 --> 01:21:39,319
explanation. It's the way it's always
been. And culturally we are very different.

1258
01:21:39,359 --> 01:21:42,359
And I'm part of that radio station
over in the UK and they've told

1259
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,439
me a number of times you can
drive twenty five fifty miles or kilometers and

1260
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,840
people will be totally different town to
town, village to village. It's just

1261
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:55,039
the way they've always been. Some
are much more quiet and reserved. Some

1262
01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:58,880
are very friendly no matter where you
go. Yeah, it's just a matter

1263
01:21:59,079 --> 01:22:01,800
of recognizing it, meeting people where
they're at. And like I said,

1264
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,399
for me, I just try to
go five percent above and if I can

1265
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:09,960
create a little shift, yeah,
that to me is a big win because

1266
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,479
I never know how far that ripple
will go. Yeah, but I've been

1267
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,479
around people who even in my DJ
days, I was teaching a corporate event

1268
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,680
one time, a lunchtime outdoor barbecue, and a gentleman walked past and he

1269
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:25,079
had a very grim look, serious
look on his face. I said,

1270
01:22:25,119 --> 01:22:29,680
service there a song I could play
you. No, I said, it'll

1271
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,319
brighten up your day. Don't want
it brightened? And I knew then I

1272
01:22:33,399 --> 01:22:38,079
go, Steve, shut up,
let him walk past, let him go

1273
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:42,039
get his bratt worst and his corn
on the cob, and just leave him.

1274
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:45,920
Yeah, and find somebody that's a
better fit. That's all nothing against

1275
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,479
him. Yeah, of course his
world. It's not for me to try

1276
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:53,119
to change. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, Hughie the Gecko is in the

1277
01:22:53,199 --> 01:22:57,800
chatwoman says, great guest Matt Steve
acts of kindness, a man, keep

1278
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,960
on brother, thank you. Very
cool. Yeah, he's a very positive

1279
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:04,600
guy himself. Hue the Gecko,
Um, it's a blast. He also,

1280
01:23:05,359 --> 01:23:08,319
I was gonna say, well,
he says, well, actually,

1281
01:23:08,399 --> 01:23:15,600
I believe that is because uh shrew
shrewsphere borders, Whales, Welsh influence.

1282
01:23:15,319 --> 01:23:18,359
Oh in terms of friendliness. Oh
maybe I don't know if I'm even saying

1283
01:23:18,399 --> 01:23:25,560
these names correctly, But Alex Whiteley
says Steve needs to revolutionize New York,

1284
01:23:26,279 --> 01:23:30,039
bringing back the smile. Ha ha. I've been to New York. I

1285
01:23:30,119 --> 01:23:32,760
performed stand up comedy twice in New
York City. What's that like? Because

1286
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,119
I would imagine if there's one place
where they'll they'll eat you alive if they

1287
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:41,159
don't like you. It's New York. Well, should I tell the experience

1288
01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:45,399
of the time I was wearing a
Red Sox jersey? Go on, Yes,

1289
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,960
I'd like to hear. That wasn't
even intentional. I mean a friend

1290
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,800
of mine, a Boston comedian friend, and I decided, let's hop a

1291
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,680
train go to New York City.
This doesn't end with you getting a beating,

1292
01:23:56,359 --> 01:23:58,720
okay, good, just making sure
it's a good ending, okay.

1293
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,079
And so I wore I always wore
in Boston, which was a pair of

1294
01:24:02,199 --> 01:24:06,600
jeans and in a Red Sox jersey. And I didn't even think of where

1295
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:10,520
I was going, And so we
went. We hit a couple of the

1296
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,880
clubs, and the last club we
played, I can't remember who it was

1297
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:20,279
the comedy seller, or which room
it was, but I was comic number

1298
01:24:20,319 --> 01:24:24,640
thirty two out of thirty four.
Yeah. So it was the end of

1299
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,079
the night, very late. The
audience was very drunk, and they were

1300
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:30,920
very mad at the comedian before me, who was very angry towards the audience

1301
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,199
when over his time got his mic
shut off. He jumped up on the

1302
01:24:33,279 --> 01:24:38,880
piano and just started screaming at people. And then they announced me. Yeah,

1303
01:24:39,239 --> 01:24:42,039
and I walked up and I said
hey, and some guy from the

1304
01:24:42,119 --> 01:24:47,760
back goes, hey, Boston,
and I said, you know, two

1305
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,520
world series so far this decade,
and he goes, we got twenty seven.

1306
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:56,439
Shut up. And then I just
broke character and I said, hey,

1307
01:24:57,039 --> 01:24:59,520
I'm just gonna be honest with you. First off, ton of respect

1308
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,760
for the Yan. He's jeter and
pasodic, could have played alongside Ruth and

1309
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,800
Garrett. I said, nothing but
respect. I go, I'm just the

1310
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:09,760
moron who got it on a train
in Boston wearing what he wore at clubs

1311
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,960
in Boston. Yeah. And they
were cool the rest of the time because

1312
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,560
I short respect. I wasn't doing
it to be a jerk. Yeah,

1313
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:20,000
I just didn't think so. Even
in a situation where things may not potentially

1314
01:25:20,119 --> 01:25:24,680
go well, you don't have to
make it worse, right, Just throw

1315
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:28,479
yourself on the sword a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, say hey,

1316
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,680
I made a bad decision, but
I'm here to help you laugh a little

1317
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,760
bit and forget about your day.
Yeah. And some people came up at

1318
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:39,279
the end, they go, nice
recovery, because we'd have destroyed you if

1319
01:25:39,319 --> 01:25:42,800
you were to attack us. Yeah. Yeah, and they were really cool

1320
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,640
with it. Yeah that's good.
You went there twice, to New York

1321
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,039
to do twice. Yeah, the
other time went well, Yeah, it

1322
01:25:48,199 --> 01:25:51,680
was you know, as well as
could be expected. Yeah. I wondered

1323
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:55,920
because you know, I listened to
some of these podcasts now, not so

1324
01:25:56,039 --> 01:26:00,399
much lately, but some of these
UM the way the way comedians from New

1325
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,319
York, the way they talk about
the you know, like not not the

1326
01:26:02,399 --> 01:26:06,520
really famous people, but you know
people who are still on that level where

1327
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,880
they live in New York and they're
playing New York a lot, and they're

1328
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:15,039
kind of local. Like I don't
know if you ever listened to UM Kevin

1329
01:26:15,119 --> 01:26:20,479
Brennan. No, I'm not as
familiar, unplugged from the community. Yeah,

1330
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:27,119
but yeah, they make it sound
like it's the most brutal place to

1331
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:29,720
do stand up common which makes sense. I mean, it's New York City,

1332
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,039
right, it can be. Well, we just talked about the difference

1333
01:26:31,079 --> 01:26:33,920
of the cities and towns and villages
in the energy. Yeah. New York

1334
01:26:34,079 --> 01:26:40,560
is a very in your face city. Oh yeah, it's just is people

1335
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,279
are. They're very direct, they're
very blunt. I mean, right,

1336
01:26:43,359 --> 01:26:46,199
the subway in New York. I
would struggle. I would just sit there

1337
01:26:46,199 --> 01:26:50,319
with my head down saying, I'm
not from here, I'm from here.

1338
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:55,920
I'm a victim already, you know. But it's just different, and you

1339
01:26:56,039 --> 01:26:59,159
adapt. Yeah. If you can
adapt, you can survive. Yeah,

1340
01:26:59,239 --> 01:27:01,560
And you can learn some skills and
toughen up. Yeah, and go somewhere

1341
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,000
else whereas I used to do a
lot of shows here in Manchester at some

1342
01:27:05,119 --> 01:27:10,840
of the bars they would now open
mic nights. Totally different from the bigger

1343
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,439
city. Yeah, the more high
pressure Boston was very different. I played

1344
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,159
The Comedy Connection at Fanuel Hall several
times. Yeah, very different show there

1345
01:27:17,239 --> 01:27:21,600
as well. So it's just read
wherever you are, read the room,

1346
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:26,560
yeah, and figure out the best
worry for you to inject your energy into

1347
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,279
the room. Because I'm not a
conflict or in your face, right person,

1348
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,960
right right? We have a call? She was online here. Hi,

1349
01:27:34,039 --> 01:27:40,000
Welcome to Matt Connerton Unleashed? Is
this? Oh? I like if

1350
01:27:40,039 --> 01:27:42,680
I thought the people were nice in
New York and every time I've been there,

1351
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:47,560
and at least we're still allowed to
do comedy, that's true. What's

1352
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:53,279
up, Dave? Well, a
couple of things. But I noticed for

1353
01:27:53,319 --> 01:27:56,119
the last hour. You have a
guest, so I wasn't sure if I

1354
01:27:56,239 --> 01:28:00,119
could call in and talk about it. But there is some New Hampshire you

1355
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,039
it's worth talking about. Oh can
you can you hit us with that tomorrow,

1356
01:28:03,159 --> 01:28:06,399
Dave in the in the first hour? Would that be possible? I

1357
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,880
can attempt you. Okay, wonderful, and I still want to have that

1358
01:28:11,199 --> 01:28:14,119
free talk live conversation too, but
yeah, if you can, if you

1359
01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:17,479
can buzz in tomorrow during the first
hour, that would be perfect. I

1360
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,119
may be able to do that.
Okay, if you can, you can,

1361
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:24,479
I appreciate it, Dave, all
right, thanks, all right,

1362
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:29,439
man, bye bye. Um,
Steve's got a great voice. Yeah he's

1363
01:28:30,079 --> 01:28:32,760
He's just here on the phone even
I go. Steve's got a really good

1364
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:36,319
voice. He does. Yeah.
Um, it's about five thirty. I

1365
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,479
should hit these commercial spots. Do
you want it? Can you stay till

1366
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,640
six? I don't mean to put
you on the spot, but I'm really

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01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,319
enjoying the conversation. So if you're
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and Mike has been on this show.

1415
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,920
It was it was two or three
years ago now, but it was Um.

1416
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:45,640
He had just put out a book
about his radio career. Oh and

1417
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,000
the name, the name escapes me, but it's Shades of Radio, fifty

1418
01:32:48,039 --> 01:32:50,880
Shades of Radio, Thank you,
Yes. And I know he's He's written

1419
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:56,479
at least another book since then,
but I think about bowling. But fifty

1420
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,760
Shades of Radio, Yes, great, great book. And um, I

1421
01:33:00,119 --> 01:33:01,800
was so excited to have him on. He'd already been on the morning show.

1422
01:33:02,319 --> 01:33:04,640
He had done the Morning Show with
Peter White, and then he agreed

1423
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:08,760
to because I think that's where I
got the contact from, and then he

1424
01:33:09,079 --> 01:33:12,760
agreed to come on my show as
well. The reason I was excited to

1425
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,520
talk to him was I used to
listen to him when I was a kid.

1426
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:19,159
I used to listen to now it's
sham in ninety four to five,

1427
01:33:19,319 --> 01:33:23,720
But when I was a kid in
the eighties, it was double U z

1428
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,840
O U yes. And I used
to listen to They called it the Boston

1429
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,960
Morning Zoo. I think they were
using that name when Mike was there,

1430
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,760
but it was Mike and a guy
named Brad, and I don't remember Brad's

1431
01:33:35,039 --> 01:33:38,640
so I used to I used to
refer to it as the Brad and Mike

1432
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:42,039
Show, but I know it's not
that. What did you say it was

1433
01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:45,800
the Krantz. It was Brad Krantz. So it was morning more in Krantz,

1434
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,000
Oh right, right, right,
more in Kranz. Yeah. But

1435
01:33:48,119 --> 01:33:51,439
I used to listen to that,
and I was such a fan, and

1436
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:57,079
I think that actually is part of
what probably a big part of what sparked

1437
01:33:57,119 --> 01:34:00,119
my interest in radio. I was
such a fan. I would do the

1438
01:34:00,159 --> 01:34:03,000
thing where I had the tape deck
set up and I would record. Whenever

1439
01:34:03,079 --> 01:34:05,680
they would do any kind of a
sketch, any kind of a bit,

1440
01:34:06,399 --> 01:34:12,479
I would hit record and I would
and I would record it, and if

1441
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,079
I liked it, if I thought
it was funny, I would keep it.

1442
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,039
If it wasn't something that I thought
was particularly funny, I would rewind

1443
01:34:18,119 --> 01:34:21,279
the tape to the beginning of where
that bit started, so I would you

1444
01:34:21,359 --> 01:34:26,319
know, the next time a different
bit came up. I would hit record

1445
01:34:26,399 --> 01:34:28,760
and if I like that, I
would save that. And so I ended

1446
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:30,199
up with and my dad, you
know, he listens to the show.

1447
01:34:30,239 --> 01:34:36,000
He probably even remembers this. I
ended up with this whole u collection of

1448
01:34:36,119 --> 01:34:41,399
cassettes and it was like my own
personal best of collection that I'd made of

1449
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:45,359
that show. So, you know, I would make mixtapes of music as

1450
01:34:45,399 --> 01:34:48,000
well, like normal kids would,
but the weirdo that I was, I

1451
01:34:48,039 --> 01:34:54,840
would also make mixtapes of Mike Morin's
show on w ZOU. So that's so.

1452
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,680
Then he came on the show to
talk about his book, and I

1453
01:34:59,039 --> 01:35:01,119
was like, I remember saying to
him, Dude, I'm sorry if I'm

1454
01:35:01,159 --> 01:35:05,680
being like a weird fanboy, but
you got to understand you affected my childhood.

1455
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:10,520
You know, it's it's it's talking
to you. It's it's like talking

1456
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:12,520
to one of my rock and roll
heroes, you know what I mean?

1457
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,640
This is surreal to me, so
um and just a super nice guy.

1458
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:21,119
Um. So you uh, you
know him much better than I do.

1459
01:35:21,199 --> 01:35:24,479
It sounds like from what you were
saying off the air, and I'd love

1460
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,720
to hear hear you're Mike Morin's story. Yeah. Well, my very first

1461
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,960
job was being a copywriter at wcg
Y when Mike was the Morning The Morning

1462
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,279
Show ninety three point seven and the
well he started in the late eighties.

1463
01:35:35,359 --> 01:35:41,279
But I got there in fall of
ninety two, and each day I would

1464
01:35:41,319 --> 01:35:45,039
be writing commercials and I would bring
them downstairs to each DJ said Okay,

1465
01:35:45,079 --> 01:35:47,000
here's your production for the day,
and we'd just you know, be talking

1466
01:35:47,119 --> 01:35:50,159
or laugh a little bit. And
one day Mike pulled me aside in the

1467
01:35:50,199 --> 01:35:55,880
hallway and said, I don't know
if it'll ever happen here because they don't

1468
01:35:55,920 --> 01:36:00,159
really want to spend extra money.
But someday I love your work ethic,

1469
01:36:00,359 --> 01:36:02,880
love your style, I really like
your sense of humor, and I think

1470
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:05,640
you're a really good person. Someday
I would love to have you as my

1471
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:11,560
morning show producer. And I thought, oh my gosh. And I had

1472
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,239
two angels named Daniel, now I
got named one named Mike because that's what

1473
01:36:16,359 --> 01:36:19,279
started me to what I really wanted
to do in radio, which was the

1474
01:36:19,399 --> 01:36:24,800
comedy, the humor, the being
kind of the puppet master behind the show,

1475
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:28,720
doing everything it didn't require speaking.
I did everything else because it didn't

1476
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:31,800
have the guts to get on the
mic and within three months, they spent

1477
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,359
a little bit of money built a
little studio in between the on air and

1478
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:41,359
the production studio, and Mike and
Gary Levitt and the sports guy and the

1479
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:45,479
news guy would all be in there. Yeah, And I was on the

1480
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,039
other side of the glass, being
a morning show producer. I didn't get

1481
01:36:47,039 --> 01:36:51,199
paid for that, Yeah, but
it got me started to understand how to

1482
01:36:51,319 --> 01:36:56,680
write comedy. And it got to
the point where I was a national level

1483
01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:00,119
comedy and song parody writer, kind
of like weird al Yeah, I was

1484
01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:02,159
doing all the topical song parent and
I got paid for it, and I

1485
01:37:02,199 --> 01:37:06,720
wound up winning that major award at
Rock on on one. So that conversation,

1486
01:37:08,039 --> 01:37:10,960
and Mike is still a dear friend, and we always referred to each

1487
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,800
other as the other half. Mike
would say, Steve is the other half

1488
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,760
of my brain. I'd say,
well, Mike's the other half of mine.

1489
01:37:15,079 --> 01:37:18,039
One of us could think of something
from the other side of the glass,

1490
01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:23,239
the other person would already hold it
up, knowing where we were going.

1491
01:37:23,319 --> 01:37:25,920
And we had this amazing connection.
There's only two other people in the

1492
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,479
world. I have that connection with
my wife Tina and my dad. Yeah,

1493
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,840
and Mike. Yeah, that's it. So he's still a hero of

1494
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,600
mine and a dear, dear friend, and I just love the guy.

1495
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:40,199
And I'm in three chapters of his
book. Yeah, one of them.

1496
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:44,000
Actually, he asked me, he
said, Look, you've got a memory

1497
01:37:44,159 --> 01:37:48,159
that rivals anybody's. Do you remember
what happened when Skippy from Family Ties came

1498
01:37:48,199 --> 01:37:53,399
into the show that day? And
I got most of it right, including

1499
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:57,319
the name of the hooker who came
in off the street during the morning show.

1500
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,319
Yeah. But it's just an honor
to call that guy my friend.

1501
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,880
Wow. I still adore him to
this day, and he's he's still a

1502
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:09,319
mentor. That's really cool. Tom
Blanchard is in The Shatterman says his last

1503
01:38:09,399 --> 01:38:13,439
book was If These Walls could talk
about the Red Arrow Restaurant. Yeah,

1504
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:15,399
that's right, that's right, correct. I haven't I haven't read that one

1505
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:20,000
either. Yeah, I've only I've
only read The Fifty Shades of Radio.

1506
01:38:20,119 --> 01:38:23,119
But you know, as a radio
nerd, of course, I did.

1507
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:26,159
You know. I think I think
Peter read that too, Peter White from

1508
01:38:26,199 --> 01:38:29,079
the Morning Show. I think I
remember him saying he read that. Um.

1509
01:38:29,359 --> 01:38:30,680
Hue, the Gecko in the chat
Room says, we say Steve,

1510
01:38:31,199 --> 01:38:35,039
could you do a comic tryout live
on a podcast in front of a live

1511
01:38:35,119 --> 01:38:40,359
crowd with a judge panel. Um, you do something like a minute example,

1512
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:44,239
the Kill Tony comic show. You
ever see that show Kill Tony on

1513
01:38:44,359 --> 01:38:47,920
YouTube? No, it's Tony Tony
Hinchcliff he does. Um, I've I've

1514
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,960
seen it. I find it.
It sounds like Hue the Gecko is a

1515
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,399
fan of the show. I I've
seen it and I didn't like it.

1516
01:38:56,520 --> 01:39:00,119
But basically it's like a you know, comics go up and they saw of

1517
01:39:00,159 --> 01:39:03,199
audition, like they do some of
their best stuff, and you know,

1518
01:39:03,359 --> 01:39:08,720
Tony and the other judges they judge
whether the comic is any good or not.

1519
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,000
And yeah, I don't know,
it didn't grab me. Not the

1520
01:39:12,079 --> 01:39:15,960
most original concept. Obviously others have
done that. Yeah, yeah, that's

1521
01:39:15,039 --> 01:39:18,479
not something I would do at this
stage because I'm just it's you know,

1522
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:24,239
comedy is so subjective and that's just
not where I'm at. Yeah, anymore,

1523
01:39:24,399 --> 01:39:28,800
I didn't even like doing comedy competitions
back in the day. I was

1524
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:32,319
in a couple of contests. Yeah, and it it just wasn't my thing.

1525
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,640
I Mean, I'm a very laid
back and I always joke I must

1526
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:39,520
have smoked a ton of weed in
a previous life, because I've never touched

1527
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,960
it in this one. But I'm
just so laid back, Yeah, in

1528
01:39:43,119 --> 01:39:45,840
this life with everything that the pressure
cooker of stuff like that. It's like

1529
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:51,159
even speaking competitions in Toastmasters. I
loved them there, yeah, but when

1530
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:55,439
it got beyond to the very high
pressure levels, and I did win a

1531
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:59,880
major one up here in the Northeast
one time, I didn't enjoy it as

1532
01:40:00,079 --> 01:40:03,000
much as I did on my own
little stage with my regular crowd. Yeah,

1533
01:40:03,279 --> 01:40:09,399
the pressure was just a little too
much. And in comedy now is

1534
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:13,800
so different from when I did it. Yeah, yeah, um, And

1535
01:40:14,239 --> 01:40:16,880
like how do you mean, like
in what in what regard much more intense.

1536
01:40:17,239 --> 01:40:21,199
It's a lot more violent and very
over the top with a lot of

1537
01:40:21,279 --> 01:40:26,319
stuff, and just just the style
of it doesn't really resonate for me anymore.

1538
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:30,159
Okay, Okay, um, Now
can you talk more about the podcast?

1539
01:40:30,119 --> 01:40:33,399
Um? I don't. I don't
think we've really talked much about that,

1540
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:36,840
Like what that entails about my show? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah,

1541
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:42,399
it's called Motivational Firewood Radio Show,
Okay, And it's basically a lot of

1542
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:45,920
the stuff that I share in social
media every week. Yeah, feeds the

1543
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:48,960
show that I do over in the
UK, okay, and then I chop

1544
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:53,279
off their beginnings and endings and their
branding and I pop it into mind and

1545
01:40:53,399 --> 01:40:56,880
it becomes my podcast, gotcha.
So it's really reflections on where I'm going

1546
01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:00,239
through learning, observing in regular everyday
life. Yeah, how long have you

1547
01:41:00,319 --> 01:41:06,760
done that? Been doing my podcast
for probably about sixteen years? Oh wow?

1548
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:12,000
Really? Yeah? Oh okay.
In the early episodes that I used

1549
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,119
to just hate to listen to,
you know, it's it's like my kindergarten

1550
01:41:15,239 --> 01:41:18,199
version of a radio show, not
with this voice or this confidence. Yeah.

1551
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,760
I listened back now and I go, oh my gosh, that's adorable.

1552
01:41:23,359 --> 01:41:26,199
If you printed that out and put
mccaroni and glitter around the edge,

1553
01:41:26,239 --> 01:41:30,399
my mom would hang it on her
fridge. Really horrible. Really, I

1554
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,159
had to do that. Yeah,
to do this, just like you had

1555
01:41:32,239 --> 01:41:36,039
your earliest stuff that you would cringe
now probably if you listen to it.

1556
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:42,159
Yeah, you have to be willing
to do that and then listen to get

1557
01:41:42,279 --> 01:41:45,800
better. Yeah. I mean the
average podcast ends between three and eight episodes,

1558
01:41:46,039 --> 01:41:50,039
and people bail on themselves. Yeah, and you're in the thousands of

1559
01:41:50,159 --> 01:41:55,359
shows. Yeah, I started,
Yeah, this this show I started.

1560
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:58,640
Well, so I've been here at
who was six years in April. But

1561
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:02,159
I actually started it in the summer
of twenty eleven as a podcast before I

1562
01:42:02,199 --> 01:42:06,720
had the opportunity to come here.
And in my beginnings with UH, I

1563
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:13,079
used to do UM. I started
podcasting out of there. Used to be

1564
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:17,439
a salon on Elm Street called Styling
Souls, and I was working there as

1565
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:21,319
UM. I would rent space there
to do hypnotherapy, so I was like

1566
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:25,560
I was the on site hypnotherapist.
But I was only there when I had

1567
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,880
an appointment scheduled, so I wasn't
an employee EI there. But but they

1568
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:32,039
let me UM. But because I
was, you know, the manager,

1569
01:42:32,199 --> 01:42:35,039
the owner trusted me and everything,
so UM, so I could come and

1570
01:42:35,119 --> 01:42:39,359
go as I pleased and they let
me do. They let me do the

1571
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:43,680
podcasts there. So I would use
the computer there, you know, after

1572
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,000
hours obviously when there was nobody around. UM, I would use the computer

1573
01:42:46,119 --> 01:42:49,920
there and I had UM for a
microphone because I didn't have any money.

1574
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:56,600
Really, I had this UM you
know those old the Logitech microphones that you

1575
01:42:56,680 --> 01:43:00,720
plug into your computer. But but
they actually, but they're not even USB

1576
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,359
like this was because this was like
mid middle two, I don't know,

1577
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:08,359
like two thousand and six. They
would plug into the headphone jack on the

1578
01:43:08,399 --> 01:43:14,399
computer and they sound terrible. But
I worked with what I had, and

1579
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:17,119
that's like, if you go back
and listen and it is online, I

1580
01:43:17,159 --> 01:43:23,560
don't I don't hide any of my
earlier work certainly, but yeah, if

1581
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:28,159
you go back and listen to the
very first episodes of this show in its

1582
01:43:28,199 --> 01:43:31,880
original form, that's what it was, honestly for for what I was,

1583
01:43:32,199 --> 01:43:35,399
for the way I was doing it, and as low tech as it was,

1584
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:41,239
it doesn't sound that bad. Like
it's not like it's staticky or hard

1585
01:43:41,279 --> 01:43:43,880
to listen to. It's just not
you know, the quality isn't that great.

1586
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:48,359
And my voice was higher because although
interestingly, okay, your has your

1587
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,920
voice changed in terms of if you
go back and listen to earlier stuff,

1588
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:59,399
because I've always been fascinated by this, Some people, um, they as

1589
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,239
they go through the adult life,
their voices continue to get deeper long after

1590
01:44:02,399 --> 01:44:05,359
puberty, just you know, incrementally, and some people don't. Some people

1591
01:44:05,399 --> 01:44:10,119
sound some radio personalities, it's like
they sound the same at seventy as they

1592
01:44:10,159 --> 01:44:12,680
did at thirty and you know what
I mean. Yeah, And I've always

1593
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,439
been fascinated by that. I'm sure
there's a lot of factors that go into

1594
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,960
that. But is your voice changed
a lot? Yeah? Mine used to

1595
01:44:19,039 --> 01:44:23,239
be higher. I used to speak
a lot faster. Yeah, I used

1596
01:44:23,279 --> 01:44:27,239
to not pause and breathe, you
know, those little things like breathing and

1597
01:44:27,319 --> 01:44:29,880
pausing. Yeah. Yeah, if
you go back and listen, it was

1598
01:44:30,119 --> 01:44:34,720
very the energy was too high.
Really, And now I'm just so matter

1599
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:39,920
of fact with everything on stage,
off stage, even regular conversations. Yeah,

1600
01:44:40,079 --> 01:44:42,560
this is just how I come out
now. Yeah, and I like

1601
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:46,399
this a lot better because I can
have impact and also with the pauses,

1602
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,680
let energy come back, yeah,
and let people think, you know.

1603
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:54,760
And I was talking about comedy competitions
the first one ever did down in Boston.

1604
01:44:55,159 --> 01:44:57,399
Somebody said, how did it go? It's five minutes long? How

1605
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,239
did it go? How did it
go? I said, Well, I

1606
01:44:59,359 --> 01:45:01,159
got through five minutes of material in
three and a half because I didn't pause

1607
01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:05,720
for all that laughter and applause that
usually gets in the way, you know,

1608
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:10,800
higher voice, and just raced through
everything, yeah, and got no

1609
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:16,000
impact with it. Yeah. So
I learned slow it down and this this

1610
01:45:16,239 --> 01:45:19,960
is just how my voice sounds now, yeah, it's just I used I

1611
01:45:20,079 --> 01:45:24,119
was very, very monotone when I
was a kid. My mom used to

1612
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,600
laugh. She used to sound like
this. My name is Steve Gamblin.

1613
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,640
I live on Catapa Street in Wakefield, Masses. That's how I used to

1614
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:33,720
talk like a robot. Because now
I'll listen to your radio man still calls

1615
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:38,479
me. That still calls me radio
man. Yeah, but yeah, much

1616
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:44,640
different. And I really like how
I sound now, Yeah, I mean

1617
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:46,000
I appreciate it. I'm not saying
that in a in an ego way.

1618
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:50,119
I really appreciate where it's gotten because
I took the time in the effort to

1619
01:45:50,279 --> 01:45:56,479
get here. We're all just a
work in progress. We can't snap our

1620
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,760
fingers and get it, because then
how much would we really appreciate it?

1621
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,079
Did you, um, did you
spend a lot of time when when you

1622
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:06,720
when you were starting the podcast,
did you spend a lot of time going

1623
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:12,199
back and listening to yourself? Because
because some people can't, Like I've talked

1624
01:46:12,199 --> 01:46:15,880
to people who will say I cannot
listen to myself. But how else do

1625
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:17,119
you improve and get better if you
don't, you know, if you don't.

1626
01:46:17,319 --> 01:46:21,039
I forced myself to listen to myself. And sometimes I don't do it

1627
01:46:21,119 --> 01:46:24,960
every day I don't have time.
But sometimes I'll play back the show and

1628
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:29,399
if I if I felt good about
the show, then it's fun to go

1629
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:31,960
back and listen to it. Yeah, if I felt like it wasn't a

1630
01:46:32,039 --> 01:46:35,840
good show, because I have you
know, it doesn't happen a lot.

1631
01:46:36,359 --> 01:46:39,880
Some days are better than others.
But once in a while, I'll have

1632
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:44,279
a show where I just go,
I don't think I had it today.

1633
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,560
Something wasn't right. I just didn't
have it, And I'll force myself to

1634
01:46:48,319 --> 01:46:50,880
go back and listen to that,
and that can be really painful, but

1635
01:46:51,319 --> 01:46:55,279
I have to try to figure out, you know, just forensically, you

1636
01:46:55,359 --> 01:46:59,760
know, what was it? Why
why did I not have it today?

1637
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,720
What was going on? You know? And sometimes I still don't find the

1638
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:04,960
answer. I'll force myself to go
back and listen to it. It's like,

1639
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:09,680
you know, because sometimes maybe the
answer is just something about my energy

1640
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:13,239
was off, and you know,
it's it's not it's not something specifically that

1641
01:47:13,359 --> 01:47:17,439
went wrong necessarily, I just wasn't
all there for whatever reason. Yeah,

1642
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,840
and those days happen. Yeah,
we don't just snap our finger and we're

1643
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:24,479
just on. Yeah. At any
given time, you know, you get

1644
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,000
a bird kred of crapped on the
windshield of your car when he got out

1645
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,439
to come and and do the show. You're not thinking about it, but

1646
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,039
you got that right in your head
for when you go back out and see

1647
01:47:32,039 --> 01:47:34,880
how many of his friends tagged you
as well. Right right, But I

1648
01:47:35,039 --> 01:47:41,039
was, I was, actually I
was coaching somebody Friday who was interested in

1649
01:47:41,119 --> 01:47:44,920
starting a podcast. Yeah, and
I said, okay, keep it short,

1650
01:47:45,239 --> 01:47:46,880
keep it direct, know what you're
going to say in advance, do

1651
01:47:47,039 --> 01:47:50,319
it, and then listen back to
it after your promoter. And they go,

1652
01:47:50,399 --> 01:47:53,880
oh no, no, no,
no. I said, if you

1653
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:57,239
want to get better is it,
here's how I want you to listen to

1654
01:47:57,359 --> 01:48:01,079
it. Get a pen and a
piece of paper and write down. Okay,

1655
01:48:01,159 --> 01:48:03,520
that was good. Okay, I
might need to pause a little more

1656
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:08,479
there, Okay, a little too
fast. Okay, this, I said.

1657
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,920
It won't be perfect, but if
you identify the things that did work,

1658
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,000
and then you can do that and
then just get a little better,

1659
01:48:15,279 --> 01:48:17,560
more confident. For the next one, there's a speaker who is a former

1660
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:23,920
comedian named Darren Lacroix. And Darren
was the two thousand and one Toastmasters International

1661
01:48:24,079 --> 01:48:28,479
World Speaking Champion of that year.
And he was a horrible stand up comic

1662
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,600
prior to that. And he will
tell you that I'm not talking out of

1663
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:34,960
school. Yeah. He has recorded
every speech, every presentation, every comedy

1664
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:40,800
show he's ever done. He has
the tapes of everything and he watches them

1665
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:45,239
religiously. He said, I will
put my collection up against anybody as far

1666
01:48:45,319 --> 01:48:48,159
as how much. And people would
say, Darren, I hate to listen

1667
01:48:48,199 --> 01:48:51,159
to myself. He had an amazing
line. He goes, hey, we

1668
01:48:51,359 --> 01:48:56,520
had to listen, right, so
you go listen and get better. He

1669
01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:01,000
went from lousy stand up comic to
world champion of public speaking. Wow.

1670
01:49:01,359 --> 01:49:05,119
Because he did that, he became
a student of his own game. Yeah,

1671
01:49:05,399 --> 01:49:09,399
and he became a champion. Yeah. Yeah, Now that's what it

1672
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:12,479
takes. Yeah. It is funny
when someone will say, oh, I

1673
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,960
can't stand the sound of my own
voice, and it's like, but you're

1674
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,960
going to do a podcast. Yeah. Tina has caught me on Sunday mornings,

1675
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:21,600
we're making breakfast and the show Them
On in the UK is on every

1676
01:49:23,399 --> 01:49:26,399
six days a week at nine am
is a replay and she goes, oh,

1677
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:28,399
that's a good song. What are
you listening to? And then my

1678
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:31,920
voice comes on. I go me
right right, yeah? Really, I

1679
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,520
said, yeah, but this is
a really cool, fun show. I

1680
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:40,000
really had fun because I put the
episodes together here, yeah, and I

1681
01:49:40,119 --> 01:49:44,239
send them the voice files and they
interspersed music around them. Okay, so

1682
01:49:44,399 --> 01:49:46,640
that's how it works. I just
do the bare bone speaking parts. Yeah,

1683
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,039
two five minutes, a three minute, and one minute which I blow

1684
01:49:49,119 --> 01:49:51,680
like, I add three to four
minutes to each one, yeah, and

1685
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:55,199
send them over. Yeah. And
I said, this was whe show I

1686
01:49:55,319 --> 01:49:59,039
really enjoyed making. I just wanted
to see how it sounded in its full

1687
01:49:59,359 --> 01:50:01,760
form. And she goes, yeah, you kind of got a cool voice.

1688
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,960
She goes, you don't talk to
me in that voice. Hey,

1689
01:50:05,039 --> 01:50:10,479
babe, would you like for breakfast? Would you like some fringe? She's

1690
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:13,840
like, oh my god, stop
right right? And weird seeing your face

1691
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:15,399
and having the radio voice come out
of it, right, because I'm not

1692
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:20,079
you know, it's not how I
talk every day, right, and that

1693
01:50:20,239 --> 01:50:27,039
doesn't happen. Um Hue the Gecko
said in the chat room, Marlon Brando

1694
01:50:27,159 --> 01:50:31,199
hated Broadway said he would never want
to do any any other form than film.

1695
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:35,039
You get takes some close ups.
He hated Broadway and said he'd never

1696
01:50:35,199 --> 01:50:42,479
do uh do a live broadcast.
It's tough. Um. Alex Whiteley said,

1697
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,399
I had that with my most recent
episode. Upon listening back through the

1698
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:48,680
edit, it was actually good.
It's mad how we doubt our abilities despite

1699
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:54,720
knowing quote unquote how good we actually
are. Yeah. My biggest thing is

1700
01:50:54,840 --> 01:51:00,960
um. When I listen, I
have verbal ticks that I am not at

1701
01:51:01,039 --> 01:51:05,439
all conscious of while I'm speaking that
I will hear. Actually, I'll tell

1702
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:09,960
you just a just a very quick
story. The very first time I was

1703
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:14,720
ever on terrestrial radio. It was
I was a guest on a show on

1704
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,039
a station and Conquered called it.
I don't know if it's the show still

1705
01:51:17,039 --> 01:51:21,720
around. It's called Your Health Matters. A friend of mine, Matt Marcill,

1706
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:25,760
was hosting the show. He invited
me to be on to talk about

1707
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:30,560
hypnotherapy. I was I was very
young in my hip hypnotherapy career, so

1708
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:31,800
I was excited to go on,
and plus it was radio, and I've

1709
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:35,680
always loved radio. But it was
my first time ever being a guest on

1710
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:42,840
somebody's terrestrial radio show. I went
on. He interviewed me. I thought

1711
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:47,039
it went really well. He was
very encouraging and seemed to think it went

1712
01:51:47,119 --> 01:51:50,960
well. The next day it was
finally up on their website. They were

1713
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:54,439
like a day behind it. It
had to air. It was prerecorded.

1714
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:57,920
It was not live, but it
had to air prerecorded, and I was

1715
01:51:57,960 --> 01:51:59,960
at work or something, so I
didn't get to hear it when it aired,

1716
01:52:00,039 --> 01:52:02,680
but it was on the website.
I went to listen to it on

1717
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,800
the website. To this day,
I've never heard the entire thing. I

1718
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:13,760
think I got maybe five minutes into
listening to it. I was so mortified

1719
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:19,800
at the number of oz and ums
coming out of my mouth that I had

1720
01:52:20,039 --> 01:52:26,680
no idea while I was sitting there, I had no idea I was doing

1721
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:30,800
that, and I'm listening to it
on my computer, and I swear it's

1722
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:40,319
like I'm sitting there going, well, hypnotherapy is about. I mean,

1723
01:52:40,399 --> 01:52:43,359
that's an exaggeration, but that's how
it sounded in my mind. I think

1724
01:52:43,399 --> 01:52:45,760
I got maybe five or six minutes
into it. I had to shut it

1725
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:47,079
off. To this day, I've
never heard the rest of it. But

1726
01:52:47,199 --> 01:52:50,159
even now, to this day,
when I listened back to this show.

1727
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:55,720
See, I just did it,
and we all do it a little bit.

1728
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,600
We all do it a little bit, and maybe maybe I'm tough on

1729
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:02,319
myself, but sometimes it's like I
do it too much. Yeah, you

1730
01:53:02,399 --> 01:53:06,479
know, that's a big part of
Toastmasters for me was getting through things like

1731
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:11,680
that. Yeah, you know.
The first manual and Toastmasters has ten speeches.

1732
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,600
This is a bonus one at the
end. So it's all the most

1733
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:18,359
basic tools of how to be more
comfortable and confident speaking. And the ums

1734
01:53:18,399 --> 01:53:23,239
and the ozs are a big part
of it. And I used to coach

1735
01:53:23,359 --> 01:53:25,359
some of the other people on it. They said, well, how come

1736
01:53:25,399 --> 01:53:27,399
you don't um and ah like we
do. I said, well, I've

1737
01:53:27,399 --> 01:53:31,119
been at this a long time,
right, But all the ums and ohs

1738
01:53:31,239 --> 01:53:36,760
are is your brain and your mouth
buffering, like if you think the wheel

1739
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:42,600
is going. I said, we
opened up our mouth and we're pausing on

1740
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:45,359
a word, looking for the next
thing, right. And I said,

1741
01:53:45,399 --> 01:53:48,319
what helped me is because I'm a
very visual person. Put them in parentheses

1742
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:55,800
in your head, think the ah. I like that, but don't verbalize

1743
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:59,279
it. I like, because we
try to go too fast and then it

1744
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:04,079
buffers. Put it in parentheses.
It sounds simple, but it helped me.

1745
01:54:04,399 --> 01:54:08,039
I'm gonna use that a lot.
I'm gonna use that then. And

1746
01:54:08,239 --> 01:54:11,439
some people said, Steve, when
you pause and you looked right at us,

1747
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:14,239
that was so powerful. I go, you want to hear what my

1748
01:54:14,319 --> 01:54:21,920
brain was thinking. Some of my
most memorable moments, even on stage speaking

1749
01:54:23,079 --> 01:54:27,520
that people will come back after and
say that was the most powerful pause ever.

1750
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,000
And if I've got a relationship with
the person, I'll say, I'll

1751
01:54:31,079 --> 01:54:34,239
give you the root of that.
Cause loca, what is it? I

1752
01:54:34,319 --> 01:54:38,319
go. I had no idea what
I was supposed to say next, so

1753
01:54:38,479 --> 01:54:41,960
I just went eyeball, the eyeball, all the way across the room,

1754
01:54:42,039 --> 01:54:46,439
right to left and all the way
back. And it's true. Yeah,

1755
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:50,960
yeah, it's true. We just
need to be aware, that's all.

1756
01:54:51,199 --> 01:54:55,079
And if we're saying it a lot, maybe we just need to slow down

1757
01:54:55,159 --> 01:54:59,239
a bit right and reduce the amount
of buffering. But put it in parentheses

1758
01:54:59,359 --> 01:55:03,000
was just It was a little tactic
that just fell out of my head one

1759
01:55:03,079 --> 01:55:06,880
day when I was coaching somebody else
and they liked it, and I thought,

1760
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:11,119
well, I'd never rubalized it like
that before. So even now as

1761
01:55:11,159 --> 01:55:15,800
a speaker, right, I remember
if I catched myself doing an UM or

1762
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:19,199
an Uh, it just snaps right
back, put it in parentheses, right,

1763
01:55:19,279 --> 01:55:24,680
And they don't know exactly what I
was supposed to say next, whether

1764
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:28,880
I do or not, they have
no idea, So just keep it quiet

1765
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,439
and let it roll. Uh,
that's that's fantastic advice. I'm gonna use

1766
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:35,399
that. I'm definitely gonna use that
for it. Steve. Wow, we're

1767
01:55:35,399 --> 01:55:38,960
almost it goes so fast, it
goes so fast, we're almost out of

1768
01:55:39,039 --> 01:55:43,399
time. Um, what do our
listeners need to know about finding you?

1769
01:55:44,279 --> 01:55:48,039
Finding the podcast? And uh,
maybe maybe they are in need of your

1770
01:55:48,119 --> 01:55:53,960
services? What should obviously the website
that's easy Steve Gamblin dot com. But

1771
01:55:54,239 --> 01:55:58,199
anything else they should know about to
reach you. They can find me all

1772
01:55:58,239 --> 01:56:00,760
over social media at Steve Gambler.
And no I'm not the violin player from

1773
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:04,600
the UK. That's a different Steve
Gamblin. Don't ask him about visualization advice,

1774
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:10,039
right, but you know, big
things for me are helping people with

1775
01:56:10,159 --> 01:56:15,560
their goals. They're visualizing their goals. And now that it's coming back live

1776
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:19,720
events, yes, we're looking for
speakers to share some time on their stages.

1777
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:23,720
That's that's a big push for this
year, is getting me back out

1778
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:27,439
there. And there's information about that
on a page on my website as well

1779
01:56:27,439 --> 01:56:30,199
at Steve Gamblin dot com. Very
cool, very cool. Um. I've

1780
01:56:30,279 --> 01:56:34,600
enjoyed this so much, and and
I appreciate you being flexible about sticking around.

1781
01:56:35,279 --> 01:56:38,159
Um. I, like I said, I had a feeling that might

1782
01:56:38,239 --> 01:56:42,159
happen, we'd get to talk and
and uh, you know, I do

1783
01:56:42,239 --> 01:56:44,640
a lot of political stuff on the
show and whatnot. It's nice to have

1784
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:47,159
a break from that sometimes and just
do something really positive. And this has

1785
01:56:47,199 --> 01:56:51,239
been this has been wonderful. Um. And uh and and you know you've

1786
01:56:51,479 --> 01:56:54,840
shared some things too that like I
said, I'm going to use the advice

1787
01:56:54,880 --> 01:57:00,680
about the parentheses and see I almost
said, um, but I put it

1788
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:04,039
in parentheses. Then I said it
anyway to just demonstrate that I was about

1789
01:57:04,039 --> 01:57:09,079
to be But regardless of we have
to paint the picture. That's right,

1790
01:57:09,199 --> 01:57:14,239
that's right to bust out the mental
shark and drawn on the big sticky notepad.

1791
01:57:14,359 --> 01:57:16,399
There you go, there you go. But no, I've I've enjoyed

1792
01:57:16,479 --> 01:57:19,399
this tremendously and I got a lot
out of it. I really feel that

1793
01:57:19,439 --> 01:57:23,199
I personally got a lot out of
it, and I think the listeners probably

1794
01:57:23,279 --> 01:57:26,760
did as well, So I appreciate
it. Thank you. This was a

1795
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,600
blast, and it was I'm gonna
give you my favorite word to use for

1796
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:33,359
situations like this, It was effort
less. And that includes the people who

1797
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:38,319
chimed in, whether it was in
a chat or on the phone. M

1798
01:57:39,079 --> 01:57:42,399
this was. This was great.
This was absolutely the highlight of my day.

1799
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:47,319
I mean that one hundred percent.
This was wonderful and all because wishing

1800
01:57:47,399 --> 01:57:51,680
Jenny a happy birthday. And here
we are. So folks take those actions

1801
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:55,840
ye say yes to opportunities, even
if you don't know where it could go.

1802
01:57:56,560 --> 01:58:00,199
Here we are very good. Great
advice, great advice. Thank you

1803
01:58:00,279 --> 01:58:02,079
so much, Steve Gamblin. And
of course, if you miss any part

1804
01:58:02,119 --> 01:58:05,279
of today's show, it we'll be
up in just a little bit at WMNH

1805
01:58:05,439 --> 01:58:10,720
radio dot org and in my website
Matt Connerton dot com. And uh,

1806
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,760
we're going to get out of here. And I have a closing song that

1807
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,600
might be a little bit of an
inside joke between us regarding an off air

1808
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:20,720
conversation I think we had. But
and that's gonna do it for us for

1809
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:24,560
now, Steve, thank you again, and I'll talk you yall a little

1810
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:25,399
bit later. By everybody,