Tip dec Media. Welcome to see you at the party RICTA. My name
is Aaron Frescus. And with me as always are my lovely co host Joseph
bet Castro. Hello, qt Pyes, and also with us as Chris Chapman.
Hi, I don't know why I made you sound like a guest and
joining us for the first time as Chris Chapman. But uh, and this
and on thin Ice is Chris Chapman and this episode. Before we get into
the production info this episode, we are actually going to start off with the
pre watch. Our pre watch intro for Arnold's nineteen eighty seven movie Predator.
We note that it is a sci fi action vehicle. Yes, which is
sci fi action vehicol just be like Mad Max's vehicle. No, it's not
sci fi or just like a hover car. Yeah, okay, so it's
a hover car on sports in your movies. Yes, okay. I haven't
seen this movie all the way through. I don't think I always come in.
I don't. I don't think I've ever seen it before the Predator and
seen anything before the Predator shows up. Like, I've never seen the whole
scene of when they're doing their they're they're strong, they're they're high five,
they're they're showing their muscles in Yes, so the muscle man love fest I've
only ever seen from yeah, when they're in the jungle on it, but
not even because hell, what is it? It takes a little while before
that the Predator starts like attacking. Though, Yeah, it takes some time.
You get like little there's like clues that there's something besides just the militia
out there. But but yeah, the Predator's not in the movie till halfway
through. Yeah. Yeah, that's the great thing about this movie. I
mean it's a little different, like if you know, like you know,
they kind of give it away with the name Predator. They probably had previews
and everything, but if you didn't know, like the have the movies just
a war movie and then all of a sudden out comes of alien that is
the Predator. Yeah. When's the last time you saw this show? Uh,
it's been a few years. So I've definitely seen it plenty of times.
I somehow have managed to lose a DVD. I saw the case,
but I don't know where that went. But yeah, I've seen this a
lot of times. Like it's top notch, fucking eighties action. You know,
you got Arnold, you got Jesse the Body, you got San Francisco
State alumni and former Oakland Raider Carl Weathers. Isn't it what's his bucket from
fucking Commando? Which one? Uh Bill? Something like Duke Duke? Oh,
Bill Duke? Yeah, yeah Bill. Yeah. By the way,
I was gonna mention real fast. Oh no, go ahead, Chris,
mum's last time you saw this? Before I mentioned my comment, I was
just gonna say that drive for up until very recently I was. I was
like Aaron and I had never really seen this movie the full way through.
I just caught like little tiny snippets of it on the table or whatever.
And then I accidentally watched this movie instead of Conan when I thought that's the
movie we were doing last episode. So unfortunately, yeah, unfortunately, this
is not a pre watch for me. Okay, but but yeah, good
movie. Oh A couple of notes real fast. I was, first of
all, the name. I don't know why they call it Sting a predator
because it loses every single fucking time almost that it's in a movie like it
is a very bad. Yeah, it's trying to. I mean, it
gets some people. But then like always dying. Yeah, I mean the
point has been made before that these are like the these are like the old
white dentists of space, like the old white dentist that went over to Africa
to shoot a dying. That'd be great, that'd be great if that's what
he like. They're like this fucking guy. Yeah, like he just gets
ship when he gets back to his planet. Yeah, like their their planet
is actually full of peaceful whatever. Those aliens. Oh yeah, they're like
a highly advanced civilization exactly. You've got the group of assholes that go and
just kill like wild animals like that dress up like real pieces of ship.
By the way, I'm gonna forget if you remember. I'm curious if they
actually name what the like species is called, so I'll try to remember to
look that it. I definitely not like in this movie. No, no,
no, yeah. Like. Also my second comment was I'm probably gonna
watch the new one before this one. Pray yes, just because I don't
remember why I said so, because I've never really seen this one, and
it's getting compared to where it's like where it's it's like people are saying that
it's better than it. I doubt that sincerely, but it's has been good
and good reviews. It's probably pretty good. But uh, that way,
there's no bias going into it like in The Prey. Oh yeah maybe,
but yeah, so I'll probably watch that. Have you guys seen that?
I have not watched yet now yet? Okay. The only other one I've
seen is Predator too, starring San Francisco State alumni Danny Gliver. Yeah,
which we'll we'll get to that too, but I haven't seen that one either.
Wow. Yeah, I have seen the You you haven't seen any the
other ones? I don't think so. No, I've seen Alien Versus Predator.
That's seen that. Oh no, no, I watched the Adrian Birdie
one. Yeah, that one was good. That one's all right, Predators
Predators and then the most recent one before Prey was Predator again. Yeah,
I think or the Predator. It might have been the Predator. I don't
know. Yeah, and uh, that one was Shane Black, right.
Uh, I'm pretty sure you was directed by Shane Black. But this one
is directed by John McTiernan, who is the director of die Hard and other
stuff. I believe he plays somebody halfway through really, so he he is
Actually I like nine nine per cent. Suri is also the director of Last
Action Hero. So, yeah, I have no experiences or this movie because
it doesn't really hold a nostalgia thing because I didn't. I've never really seen
it. It's just more of a mean thing, like does you want to
get to get to watch this when you were younger? Yes? Yeah,
for sure, Okay, I mean I watched it throughout my life. It's
like, I mean, I think it's peak Arnold eighties action or just peak
eighties action. Like I don't know if there's I can think of a better
eighties action movie than this one, just like it, uh, because it's
not there. It doesn't have the usual comedy that the others have, or
I mean it it definitely does. You know, there's there's some funny parts.
I wouldn't say it's like Quippie as like a commando or or call her
running man or anything. Okay, there's definitely some funny parts. Ok.
Yeah, And I think Terminator is probably a better movie, but that's more
sci fi or zombie or whatever. Yeah, this one's pretty straight action.
Yeah, and it's amazing. So I'll give this a I'll pump five irons
for this one. Just let us all go up front. Yepkay, don't
put it on the spreadator. There were there were two things that were not
related to the movie at all that I was gonna mention, and there was
a little stay in here and get cut. The first thing was I was,
I was getting gas today and there was this lady that walked up like
was kind of like mumbling to herself and like walking around the parking lot.
And then I was, I was I saw her walking towards me because I
looked over and I think we made eye contact, and I was like shit,
and she started walking towards me and kind of yelling. I was like,
well, good to get back in the car. And so I get
back in the car and she walks over to my passenger side window and she's
like, where's my daughter? Where is my daughter? I know, you
know where she's at. And I was like Jesus, rolling up the window
on her slow, like your window is down? Well, yeah it was
down because I just got back in the car and she got up there and
my windows were already down. I rolled it up and then I waved at
her and then I drove away. You were like, She's like, no,
come back, where's my daughter? I was like, shit, that
sucks for her, Like, I know she's she I'm pretty sure she was
homeless and whatnot. But or or she just like a huge Mel Gibson fan,
like a ram she just like yeah, yeah, yeah. See if
this, if this was not real, I would tell you you should have
been like sh as you drove away, like just look her straight in the
eyes, our commando. I don't know. There's a lot of daughters that
go missing in movies anyway. And the second thing was was, I was
over in uh Santa Lejo Hills area today and I got me thinking about the
story that Joe story that he said that he claims is true about some about
it. I wasn't with you. Who was with you when that happened?
Uh? It was Nick and Richard okay, and and but that was like
way before the area was developed. So it was all like wooded, like
not wooded, but like yeah, and there was the mental institution there allegedly.
Yeah. So for the people that from our area, it's basically a
place called Quest Haven, it was kind of wooded and out there. It's
like unincorporated, right, is it was? Yeah? I think it was
an unincorporated part of town. That'd be great if that's just part of the
stuff that people made up for it, because no, it's unincorporated, so
they've got like fucked up stuff. There's rules out there with those mental patients
that helped that screw with them. Man. So yeah, there's a mental
institution. And you know it was like allegedly haunted or you know whatever.
Phone were like eighteen nineteen before we really started drinking, Like we just drive
out there and get scared and like drive off. One time we went out
there and we're like at the gate and like looking in, and somebody came
walking towards the gate. They had a hood on. It was dark,
but we saw him and he didn't have a face, all right, I
one hundred percent sure that it was like covered up and the lights or whatever.
Remember the light was coming from behind him and he just couldn't see his
face. But we could not see this guy's face, so we just assumed
he didn't have a face, because that's scary. So that happened. I
don't believe that person exists without a face. Wait, so what I'm trying
to say? It was just it looked like he had no face. So
was it like like just like a blank like like like let's say, just
skin like they're saying it was like an empty hood. Well, okay,
so like if you wear in a hood, like it was like blank.
So if you were in a hood and you have like light shining behind you,
you might see the outline of your head, but not necessarily going to
see the face. So yeah, that's probably what happened. So it just
looked like a head, just like a blank head in a hood. So
it looked like he had no face. That reminded me of well, because
there was a guy that used to like this was a long time ago,
but he back in east somewhere. He used to take walks early in the
morning and there's reports of some guy that didn't have a face, like some
monster without a face, and I guess his face got burnt off and so
he would walk out in the morning early just to avoid people. And yeah,
it wasn't okay, like I've seen that guy now, it was did
you look like when you heard about that, you look like, oh my
god, maybe it's him, and then you looked at it. But because
that guy's from like nineteen twenty, so yeah, I mean if well,
I think that can be a ghost as well. Like, that's true that
guy died and decided he'd moved to the West coast. It's like, no,
I'm dead North County, San Diego. That's pretty sad now that I
don't got to pay you fucking rent here. Well, then I was thinking,
like, because when I was over there today, I was thinking,
like about your no face guy story, and I was like, well,
what if this guy didn't have a face and he couldn't see So he's just
like, am I in the bathroom where he's like trying to find the bathroom
and he actually wandered out of the house and he wanted to the gate and
he's like, where the fuck am I? And then he hears somebody and
he's trying to like yell me help me. But you guys are like that
took off running, we drove away, get out of the car. Yeah,
okay, that's I just wanted to tell my one joke. That's the
only reason I brought it up. But also it's an interesting story too.
Anyway, any other comments about the movie. That's it. We usually keep
these pretty short. All right, then, well, I guess I'm gonna
go look some stuff up and we'll be right back with some production info.
Yeah, stick around and we're back. We're gonna give it to Aaron here.
He's gonna give some spicy nugs, drop some details. Let's let's let's
fucking give it to us, fucking take it. So, Aaron, what
do you got for us? Okay? All right? So the movie was
directed by John McTiernan, who, like we mentioned during the pre watch,
also directed Arnold's nineteen four nineteen ninety four masterpiece Last Action Hero, as well
as the original Dieheard And we say that not like ironically, no, like
that's that's the fucking masterpiece. That movie was the one that I was watching
when I messaged you about doing this podcast. Actually, I was like,
man, and I don't know why, but I was surprised alone that he's
only directed twelve movies, so the two I mentioned, as well as a
nineteen eighty six move Pierce brosnanw movie I've never heard of called Nomads. But
then he also directed The Hunt for October with Sean Connery, which I never
watch, but I'm pretty sure he plays like a Russian submarine captain who I'm
sure for somewhere Russian Scottish actions. They just don't address it. Have you
seen it. I've seen parts of it, but it's just they do a
thing where they like everybody speaking Russian to start with, and then eventually they
just switch over to English. They should have done a word by word and
then it's like slowly each word. Yeah, that was. That was such
a weird thing, like, especially back in the day when it'd be like
this movie takes place in Germany and then like everybody's speaking English. Even like
Strenobyl Strinobyle that came out that HBO mini series like two years ago, that
was like really fucking good, but everybody's British. It's like, yeah,
it's I don't know, it's kind of weird, but I mean it's still
great, but it was just kind of a I haven't seen that in a
long time. It's just a weird film thing. From back in the day.
We're all like in like anytime there's a Roman movie, they're all British
too, pretty much. Everyone's just yeah, anybody European is Brited, like
this is Sparta, Like I'm pretty sure he didn't say that this is it
is Wait, wasn't it? Gerard Butler though. Is he British? Yeah,
he's got it. I just know us spot do Dominic West McNulty's in
it. Oh yeah he is. He's he's like the bad guy in that
right. Oh yeah, he's one of the senators son. I don't know,
he's the shitty senator anyway. So okay, So to the movie The
Senator Clay Davis She the other movies uh mcturney director Worre nineteen ninety two is
The Medicine Man, also starring Sean Connery, hopefully playing a Nigerian shaman who
sounds like groundskeeper Willie be great. He also didn't direct Diehard too, but
he directed Diehard with Avenges, which I haven't seen but I heard. Is
Medicine Man the movie version of Doctor Quinn Medicine Women? Or is that like
the TV shows spin off or they spins off? I don't know. That's
a good question. Just find that out. We want to move this into
movies, but we can't have a lady, So it's Medicine Man now.
So the last two movies Mctrinity director were a remake of Rollerball in two thousand
and two and then a movie called Basic in two thousand and three and then
nothing since then, which I found kind of odd. So I looked him
up on Wikipedia and apparently he stopped because he was dealing with some stuff that
eventually led to him being locked up in federal prison, oh, which I
did not know about. Yeah, what did he get hearts type stuff for?
Like some more boring stuff. He had someone illegally wired tap a producer
of one of his films because they were having disagreements about the direction of the
film and mcternay wanted to dirt on him to use against him, which I
didn't know that was a federal crime. I mean, if you're gonna get
charged with the crime, you want to get charged with a federal, federal
crime because if you had a federal prison, as I'm told, I haven't
been there, I haven't even been interested. But what's called club fed because
it's like way chill compared to like state prisons. So the best part of
this as the that the movie that he did this for was Rollerball, which
I think ended up bombing at the box office, and the whole Ageleins and
Rebecca remain is in it too. I think as Stamos, well, maybe
he was right to record him because that movie ended up sucking. Did you
watch you know, maybe if he got his way. I didn't watch it,
but I never never heard of it bombed. So maybe if he got
his way, the movie would have been good. But now the movie sucks
and he went a person for it. It's a double kick of the nuts,
the worst of all. You ruined Chris Klein's career. Yeah, he
was. He was in our generation's Porky Porky's that's very true. Yeah,
that movie actually holds a three percent Rotten Tomato rating, which is like,
at least someone kind of liked it. Maybe anyway, I want to see
the positive one. It's probably like this isn't the worst movie that's ever been
made, and like, man, we'll give that a fresh tomatook that up.
I always have this thing where it's just like when they have like quote
some critics like movie stuff, it's like dot dot dot this movie is amazing,
dot dot dot. But the real quote is like this movie is amazing
at being fucking terrible or something. You know, it just like cut it
out. The highest it guy was a fifty from the New York Daily News,
and it said the game itself is meaningless and the movie much the same.
So yeah, that fifty I guess gave it the three percent. That's
a metacritic. But so, yeah, I guess he continually continuously lied to
the FBI about it, then pleaded guilty as part of a plea agreement for
a lesser sentence. So he was sentenced to four months in prison and one
hundred thousand dollars fine. But instead of just taking that, he withdrew his
original guilt guilty plea, So that ended up avoiding the deal that he had
with the FBI. So they went after him even harder by adding two extra
or two counts of line to the FBI, and that Dufis ended up having
to do a year in prison instead of four months because he drew his plea.
Oh man, okay, so it was the line to the FBI that
was like the federal crime. Yeah, I mean, well it seems like
it seems like wire tapping, at least what I know from movies and TV
is a federal crime. It's a federal wire cap in charge. It depend
who you do it to her, is it just anybody know? It's probably
just a federal crime. But I mean I learned most of that from The
Wire, so not a horrible place to learn it from. I mean,
it's probably better than like lawn or yeah no, I mean The Wire's best
show that's ever been made. So oh yeah. Maybe he was like he's
like, all right, I'll do my four months. And then he like
met this chick and he's like, oh fuck, like I got a smash,
and he's like, dude, it's so worth it, you know,
I'll I'll withdraw my plea and like suspend my sentence even tho I got a
prison for eight months, longer, all way, as long as I can
just smash. And then he did, and then he's like sitting in prison
and he's just like cool, I thought you meant it was one of those
like prison groupies that she only wanted to be with him if you oh,
that would work too. She's like four months. It's like, man,
I could get a hold year out of it. Four months. That's weak.
It's like, I'll only give you conta when you're in prison. After
that, all right, we can move on. Sorry, Okay, So
that all started in like two thousand and six. He went to prison in
twenty thirteen and was out in little less than a year. But I guess
he hasn't made anything since except a video game commercial because apparently he's He's also
not will liked in Hollywood on account on account of him being kind of a
ship bag. So anyway, that's our director, folks. What video game?
Well, I think it was a Call of Duty game or something like
that, which he would. I'm sure he made an awesome Call of Duty
commercial. I'm pretty sure it was something like that. I'm wondering if it
was that one from a few years ago that had like eighteen Kobe was in
that one, I remember, Yeah, yeah, yeah rpuh. So.
The movie was written by brothers John and Jim Thomas and is actually their first
writing credit, which is pretty own good way to start a career. Yeah.
I mean, I haven't watched a movie yet, but you know that's
almost your movie in the eighties. Yeah. Anyway, So they also wrote
a Predator to an Executive Decision, which I think is a Kurt Russell movie,
but and have story credits on Behind Enemy Lines Mission to Marson Wildwlile West.
The story was kind of inspiring to me, I mean, thinking that
if Chris and I work hard enough, we could write one really good movie
and then follow it up with some like mediocre ones, and then finally one
that's so bad that it's at least probably a tiny bit responsible for Will Smith's
pent up aggression. You know, it's got to be a little bit responsible.
Yeah, just has to be Ghost Recon wild Lands. That's the game?
Is that that point? I guess they're all Tom Clancy. Yeah yeah,
I mean Call of Duty is not Tom Clancy, but everything else is
any like Ghost Recon or Rainbow six six yeah yeah seven sequel. But uh
yeah, Predator is actually the Thomas Brothers first writing credit, which is pretty
cool. So the film had a production budget of between fifteen and eighteen million,
according to IMDb in Wikipedia. It was released June twelfth, nineteen eighty
seven, and open number one at the box office, making twelve million on
its opening weekend, beating out the second place movie by almost three million.
And uh, like I said before, not it doesn't matter. But I
liked the top ten movies because I ended up looking the things, so anyway,
it wasn't a horrible week or time for movies, but I also haven't
seen a lot of them. Number two was The Witches of Eastwick, which
opened the same week and I haven't seen it, but I think it stars
Jack Nicholson and Chaer and Michelle Pfeiffer. Yeah, I think all three of
the Witches were like really big actor and Susan's ran And yes, I did
look it up earlier, but yeah. Number three was Beverly Hills Cop two,
which I also haven't seen. Wow, but I haven't actually seen any
of those. You haven't seen Beverly Hills Cop. I haven't seen any of
them. That one's on cable all the time, the first one, the
first and the second one. They actually probably the second and the third one
are on cable more than the first one. It's so weird what they run
through on cable, Like, yeah, do that for a little while and
you're like, I haven't seen this movie forever, and then they'll just run
into the ground and then put something else random on. I've had cable in
such a long time. So fucking rich guy over here, John D Rockefeller.
Yeah, but number four was The Untouchables, which also haven't seen,
but I think Sean Connor is in it. Sean Connery is in it,
probably doing an impeccable Chicago Midwest excent. Yeah, exactly. The song with
Kevin Costner, Right, one of them is Elliott Nests and the other one's
Elliott Ness's friend, fucking John Dillinger al Capone. Yeah, it's fun.
What's his name, Robert de Niro? Right, yeah, de Niro.
It's not Costner, No, no, no, Costner is Elliott Nest.
The hero is alcohol, okay. Yeah. And then didn't Las take down
John Dillinger? No, al capedal? I mean maybe in record of the
movie he took down yeah, al Capone. I don't know anything about it.
There's like a like a thirty year difference between that thirty I think.
Wasn't Dillinger in like the forties or fifties or something like that. I thought
Dillinger was in the thirties, my dad in thirty four? I don't.
Okay, maybe that'd be a hell of a career. He just goes out
of his jurisdiction, goes to wherever Dender is. Uh so, yeah.
So anyway, So number five was The Believers, which was some movie about
cults starring Martin Sheen. Number six was Harry and the Henderson's, which I'm
okay with saying is one of the only two movies I've actually seen on this
list. I like that movie. I've never seen that. That movie I've
never seen. You probably it's it's I mean, it's not good, but
it's it's goofy, right, It's just like eighties. Yeah, it's eighties.
It's got a lot John Wiko like he he redoes the scene like they
redid the scene in thirty Rock with between Yeah. Yeah, when he like
hits him. Yeah, but uh yeah, it's it's good. I don't
know, eh anyway, So okay, so number seven was Ernest Goes to
Camp, which I don't think i've seen, but I'm pretty sure was a
masterpiece, you know what I'm saying. The only one I've seen is Scared
Stupid. But number eight was the Secret of My Success starring Michael J.
Fox. Number nine was Million Dollar Mystery, which I had to look up
and seems like he was kind of like a version of rat Race, which
I think is basically just a version of Mad Mad, Mad World. Yeah.
But then number ten was Platoon, which is the only other movie I've
seen, and I definitely prefer Harry and the Henderson's Platoon. I mean,
I haven't seen it for long. I saw I saw a Secret of My
success for the first time, like a couple of months ago. An again,
the movie is the movie's Okay, it's Michael J. Fox being Michael
J. Fox. Like that's that's like the whole point of the movie.
It's it's very like eighties like yuppie kind of thing. Okay, that's all
he wants is to be like an executive at the company. Okay. Yeah,
but yeah, I can definitely see how Predator ended up number one because
it's the only straight up like action movie yet out like that was playing at
the time, and definitely the only sci fi type of movie. Those movies
always seem to do well during the summer. But yeah, it was only
number one for the it's opening week, and then it swat places with number
the number two movie, The Witches of Eastwick, because nobody in the eighties
could resist Jack Nicholson. That's true. So Predator ended up gros seeing fifty
nine point seven million in the US worldwide gross of ninety eight point two million,
and ended up being the twelfth highest grossing movie of nineteen eighty seven,
which damn Like I think we said Conan was like seventeenth or something like that.
I was grossing nineteen eighty two fifteenth. Yeah, so the run of
movies I can Yeah. So yeah, that's all I got for the production
info. So let's check out some promo material. Yeah. I gotta say
that's probably the most legendary movie of nineteen eighty seven. But I'm just looking
at a princess bride is up there, full metal jacket? Shit, are
you looking up? The box office grosses are just like I'm just trying to
think like cultural relevance, Yeah, because I think I think actually Beverly Hills
Copies was there was two lists was the top movie for nineteen eighty seven?
Yeah, those movies were okay, all right, Well I was wrong.
There's there's there's a lot those two that I mentioned. There's also Lethal,
Webon, Dirty Dancing, Fetal Track, Lost Boys, Arizona, Throw Mama
from the Train, which whatever. Yeah, the original Hell Razor Evil did
two. Yeah, there was a lot of Bomba Oh, playing Trains and
Automobiles three min and a baby RoboCop. RoboCop is good Adventures and babysitting.
Damn. Oh. The Running Man came out that year too. Yes.
Wow, so I'm not necessarily wrong, but eighty seven was just a good
fucking year there was that happened. I think either Conan or or Red Heat
or not Red Heat raw deal deal, yeah, because I remember reading the
list and was like, e T back to the future whatever one came out
in ninety eighty four, which I think is raw deal. But yeah,
I think that's hard. But yeah, it was a crazy list. Two
daties were just a good time for movies, or we just won't remember the
good ones. Yeah exactly. So yeah, anyway, I couldn't find a
whole lot that weren't serious. Can you please not stick your buttle in my
face? I'll stop, dude, go away. I know you want me
to rub your butt, but stop. Go over there, all right,
well, hell, okay there. Yeah, I'm just in like, well,
you pushed them off the couch. I don't know what he was supposed
to do in the spare room up like a lawn chair. Yeah, and
I got these like posters behind which sure they're like lord on for me for
Christmas, but they're like each scene of movies. You know, what what
is it? Color? Oh? I think I know what you're saying,
but wait, what what movie is that? I believe this is Infinity War?
What do you mean the scene of so it's like the they take like
the color of the scene, you know, and they just so this is
like everything from anywhere, huh. And the fight club and I got a
terminator also, and I think I just it goes that scene. I'm curious,
what scene you just fucked up? They're conder or something. So I
couldn't find a whole lot that was in a that weren't like serious interviews,
and was unable to find his appearance on the Tonight Show to promote the movie,
which anyway, there's an appearance on Letterman's Uh, I think it's late
Night. But there's better stuff than that one. So maybe we'll I'm sure
we'll watch that one eventually when we get to a movie that has no primo
stuff. But uh, anyway, so most of the stuff is from his
and most of the stuff is from his co stars. But so let's start
off with start off with an Arnold one, which is him being interviewed on
Entertainment Tonight. So Arnold is talking about the movie and what audiences can kind
of expect to see. It is an action adventure film. It's packed it
action from the beginning to the end, and on top of it, it's
a horror movie. After the first third of the movie turns into horror movie,
it becomes a very intense movie. There's some great characters in the name
of Carl Weathers, Chase at the body of Entur who is one of the
world champion wrestlers, Bill Duke. It's one of the things where we decided
to not have one guy go against the whole enemy or whatever we fight always
against, whether it's like a team of guys like the Dirty Doesn't or the
Magnificent Seven or something like this. So it made it much more fun,
and it of course created much more action and excitement and much more acting and
interacting of the different characters. So that's something that they probably will expect,
but they will be added on things. What is different is that than the
whole film? This time I'm in high heels. It was okay, yes,
exactly exactly. So that's that's my note. Like I love it where
how it just cuts away before we see any sort of reaction from the person
that's interviewing him, Yeah, and then immediately goes into him fielding another question.
The first time I watched it, I had to rewind it because I
was like I was looking up other stuff while I was listening to it,
and I had to like make it like whoa, what do you say?
It's just like okay, I don't know. It just made it seem like
the way it was because because they didn't show me laughing, it just made
it seem like the joke but like Phil flat just moved on. But yeah,
anyway, Yeah. This next one is from the same clip, but
it's actually Kevin Peter Hall being interviewed. Who's the guy that played the Predator?
And I guess he also played uh Harry from Harry and the Hendersons,
So technically this dude played one of the leads in two movies that were in
the top ten at the box office at the same time. There's two icon
of characters like yeah, that's not a joke, the uh the interviewer,
who I think is a Joe. What's there something Mary Hart pretty sure from
Entertainment Tonight, But she keeps asking him awkward questions like stuff like, so,
how much does it suck that you're in two of the top movies right
now? No one recognizes you? And it's like the look on this say
it's just like, uh, well, I mean yeah, I know I'm
not seeing on screen, but you know, like eventually I will be known
and stuff like that. And I'm like, what the fu kind of question
was that? What an asshole? How does I know how to feel your
life's work? Uh? Yeah, how does it feel to know your life's
work will go unrecognized? But and then there's this one, which might be
my favorite, uh because it's such an like awkwardly bad question. What did
that do? Okay, cool, let's open that that there you go.
Damn no for Harry. These are two despairingly different parts. I mean,
everybody loves this future Harry, and then this other guy in alien is just
a murdering varmit. Right's a good word? Which one is more close to
you? Or this more fun to play? I think Harry is definitely more
me, uh, the lovable visitor in the home. It's it's a good
part. There was a lot to do, you know, it was a
lot of things to play. And the other you know, you kill people
and then you kill more people and then you die. What kind of Oh
my god, he got the short end of the stick having that be his
interviewer. Yeah, it was just like such a bad question, like it's
like someone asking Evan Peters, like, so you played Quicksilver next Man,
but you also played every Dahmer, which one would you say You're most like,
see, that would be good if it was like, Okay, here's
probably what happened. They didn't even they were just going through the interview and
they didn't like think of that question, or they didn't write it before or
whatever, because if they did, they should have told him what the question
was before. Then he can like answer yeah, you can have like a
funny sound bite answer, yea. Yeah, they just would have nixed that
question. Yeah. I mean there was a lot of cocaine going on in
the eighties and everything, so maybe somebody's like, like, oh, which
one is more? Like, you know, that's fucking right, Let's ask
him that one man. That'll fucking get him, yeah, because I don't
know, like if you know nowadays, like it would be different, but
like back in the day, you're trying to make a professional even though et
isn't like, you know, high brow type shit, but you're a professional
and you're trying to like ask good interview questions, and that's like a fucking
terrible question. So it's either like a prank, or she's just like it's
something that came off the top of her head, or people just fucking suck
at their job. That's what I was gonna say. It was like,
that's like a between two ferns question, like like like, that's like a
fake interview. I'm trying to tank this thing question Like, well, that
also looks like because they're not showing that who is interviewing, it looks like
like raw footage too. Yeah, kind of true. Yeah, I think
it's really racist question. Yeah, that's the other thing I was gonna say.
It's like which one are you more like? Because you know you're unbridled
killing Mashia or the really dumb ape like creature? Like what the fuck are
you doing? Lady? Yeah, well, and if you listen to because
I watched a couple of times, you listen to it. She stumbles for
a second because I think she realized her question was stupid, and then so
she switched to which one did you like playing more? Yeah, so she
starts off with like which mean more like which I'm searching for the words?
Is really like him trying to be like, how the fuck do I answer
this question? You stupid asshole? Yeah, I guess she's some little over
words that makes sense. That's some dumb shit that I would say, so
yeah. I mean, if you listen to this podcast, you've heard a
lot of dumb shit, so well, yeah, and that's not even just
a look in his face when she says the last one, which was the
recognition one, was just like uh, it was just like a look of
likes. His heart sank for a second. You tell, like, well,
I don't know anyway, Okay. The next couple that I have her
Jesse Ventura wants. So this first one is him on in depth with Graham
Bensinger, and the first part is him explaining how he got the role in
the answer is interesting, creditor, how did you get the role in spite
of Vince McMahon's wishes. I read for it, and I had an agent
in Hollywood at the time. I used to go there as often as I
could, and he got me appointment with Jackie Birch and they were casting the
next Schwarzenegger movie, which was Predator, and the part of Sergeant Blaine Special
Forces six four two fifty I fitted perfect and I had the background for it,
and I chewed tobacco which was in the script. They asked me,
can you chew tobacco? And I pulled out my Copenhagen and Redman. I
said, I'd been chewing for twenty years, so it was not acting when
I chewed tobacco and spin it on calls boots. Okay, passed the head
or you kind of buried the lead. I think it's much more interesting the
way he fucking dressed for this interview. He's like Jimmy Hendrick's T shirt on,
does he? Yeah, I didn't even notice that before. I was
like sitting there with this balding ponytail and Jimmy Hendricks teacher. That's what's like.
The interview was just sprang on him. Serious. He was at a
Barbie Street. Yeah, so it's called a silver bullet. A silver bullet,
if you will. I just like it was like, I owe everything
I have to Phillip Morris. Anyway, the next clip, which I guess
just close out of that one and then open the If you reopen the thing
again, it'll but oh yeah, so okay. So the next clip is
from the same interview and is him talking about probably one of the more widely
known pieces of trivia from the movie, which is that Jean Claude Van Dam
was originally originally cast as a predator. So it's did you guys you guys
heard that like before, I've heard that, Yeah, okay, but yeah,
it's him talking about Van Dam. Tell about to get back to Predator,
your first encounter with John Claude Van Dam. Yeah, Well, Jean
Claude was at the time and nobody living out of his trunk and this was
the first job he got. He was going to be the predator. They
didn't know exactly what the predator was gonna be yet. I didn't even know
what the Predator was till I went to a screening. They hadn't determined yet
because remember he was invisible to us, so they shot him completely separate.
But Jean Claude originally got cast for the predator because I guess they felt with
his karate agility and all that he'd be able to move good through the jungle
with his sudon. Now, I don't think John Claude realized they weren't going
to see his face. So he's a good kid. I love him today.
But he got down there and did nothing but complain, So Joel Silver
fired him. His first job, he gets fired, and Joel says he'll
never work in Hollywood again. Sean Claud goes up and signs a three picktar
deal with Dela Rentz and is a big star now. So it goes to
show you when they tell you you'll never work in the business again, chances
are you still may get an opportunity. So what's your favorite line? Jesse
Venturia is the definition of boomer Oh you just watching it? I wanted to
see what his favorite line was. Uh, he's what's his name, Graham,
Ben's Ben Singer or whatever it was, trying to like bait him into
get telling which I forgot that that was his like famous line from it,
which was the something about bleeding. I got time to bleed. Yeah,
yeah, and he's he tells me Like everybody loves that line, but I
didn't want to say it. His best line is this stuff will turn you
into a sexual tyrannosaurus. When he gives him the when he gives the nerdy
gag, because you know he's a nerve. He's got glasses like fucking rude
Shane Black, isn't it? Yeah Black? Yeah? But he says he
chose to give him the chaw. This stuff will turn you into sexual Tyrannosaurus.
Wait like the chew Yeah yeah, yeah, man, it is like
seriously like a like one of his characters, like the characteristics of his character.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's full lot of character trait. That's like
half his personality. Yeah, I don't think. I mean, the top
three guys don't think there's a lot of acting going on, like Arnold,
Carl Weathers and Jesse. Yeah, I mean I think does all right,
they know I'm not saying their personality, yeah, I mean, oh yeah,
yeah, aside from the CIA haven't pushed too many pencils. Yeah,
but like like Jesse and Arnold are just Jesse and Arnold saying you know so
yeah, Okay. So that's that's one side of the story with Jesse I
w Tart telling it. But next up I have actually have j c v
D telling his side of the story on Hollywood Reporters heat Vision breakdown. Before
we start, can I just point out the suggested video on the side that
says, is Steven Seagall still dangerous as he sits there with his saggy ass
face and his double and that was ten years ago, and I like,
hi, me answering the question, yeah almost, I am still dangerous.
I'm still the most dangerous man alive. Just to cooks, all right.
Anyway, there are many many theories and rumors about why you left Predator because
you were originally supposed to be the Predator in that film. What is the
actual reason why you left Predator? I came to the studio and they made
me run around the studio and I jumping like, that's right, Johnny jump.
This guy can jump very high. Yes, he's in. So then
I've got to go to displays and they put me on on sticks and woods
and they start to melt all the cast on me, you know, and
it's boiling hot. I'm a gal. I like to breathe, and no,
no, they're gonna do my head and everything. And I've got my
friend next to me. I said, man, I ain't gonna make it.
It's they put in my mother, could you? And at that time
I was just to them a stunt guy, right right, And I was
covered into that cast for at least twenty minutes. You say, if you
if you feel like you cannot breathe, just go like this with the finger
and I'll pull that stuff away from you and I did it. I start
to panic and you go no more. Five more minutes and finally the cast
came out. I wasn't predator. It was disgusting answer, and my feet
were in these caves, so I was on some sorts of stelts. Yeah,
So when Joel asked me to jump, I knew it's going to be
a bad one. I said, I it is impossible, Joe, I
think when I have a problem. Then he replaced me by somebody and the
guy did my stand something that happened to him, and then they stopped the
film and they didn't new more safe outfits. So I was happy that I
listened to my intuition. Okay, by the way, he's right about the
stunt that he refused to do. I read something with Trevia. I don't
remember when, but the guy that they got to do it broke his legs.
Oh Jesus, because he jumped from too high. Wow. So also
that his story reminds me because I also watched another interview where he kind of
tells the same story. This one's a little more entertaining, though it's not
very well edited, which I just realized right now. But it Joe reminds
me of the story that all of us used to joke about with like our
friends about how how he got started in Hollywood. Do you remember that story?
Oh, or you jump up and do the spits like put me in
a movie exactly like to like to a random Hollywood producer, which he tells
it. I'm pretty sure it was Joel Silver because he tells that kind of
tells that story, but like not so like making fun of him, but
like to Joel Silver because he started. He's like I started doing like jumping
and doing kicks and stuff like that. Just imagine I'm like jumping and doing
kick put me in a movie, and then like that's all the English he
knows. Yeah, it did work, but uh, okay, are you
watching more stuff? No, I'm trying to sign in so we don't get
any ads. Okay. You know what would have been great is if you
just would have like didn't forgot that it was on share like share screens would
have went to porn immediately, like that's all he does whenever we're not forcing
him to share a screen, just like like but yeah, the other interview
was it's it's basically like so I don't know how it came about, but
it was like a joke that we would something we would joke about that one
of us heard like a trivia tidbit that we heard and like when we were
right out of high school. So it was at like two thousand and one
of Jean cle Van Damn where he is like, that's how we got originally
like original hired. He's like put with me in a movie, like after
doing like some kicks and stuff like that. Well, joke about it,
but none of us actually looked it up because you know, I didn't think
of it back then, I guess, which I'm sure you could. Actually
would have been way harder to look up back then too. Yeah, true,
which I didn't bother to look up now because I just like to think
that that's what happened. Yeah, he was just running from studio to studio
doing like jump kicks and stuff. Kept jumping on like lunch tables and doing
splits between them, or you know they got the little thing where the car
goes up and down. Yeah, and they're like, sure, you can't
go in there, and he just jumps up and does the splits on the
little car thing. Put me in a movie. It's like dude, I'm
a security guard. I can't do anything for you. Okay, so just
a few more so, but next up we'll get back to a little bit
of Arnold with actually I think it's that one. Oh I sent it to
you. I was like, how did the hell did you do that?
That was amazing? Oh So anyway, next up a little bit of Arnold,
but with him in what looks like behind the scenes featurette talking about a
prankie pool on jesse Ventura while they're filming. The biggest thrill for me was
when we hit wardrobe and I happened to view Arnold's wardrobe tape and when my
arms taped out one inch bigger than mister Olympia's, that made jesse Ventura feel
pretty good. Well, I'm very happy about that because then my choke worked
because I told the wadrope department they should tell him that so I can bet
him about of Champagne. After it's when he comes to the gym. He
came to the gym two days later and he says, you know something,
onward, we should measure our arms bigger arms. I said, of course
we should. I said, it's better battle Champagne. He says, of
course we should. Then we measured it in my Almo swings is bigger than
his what and he lost the Battle of champagnes I mean, you know the
psycho trips. They work on everybody and body builders and it's un restless.
It was good exactly. He loves his uh, he loves his practical jokes.
You know, I like you like so I cheated whatever? Yeah whatever,
that's not very cheating. So I fucking scammed him. What are you
gonna do? The Okay? So this next one is Bill Duke, and
we actually watched part of this interview when we did the Commando episode. I
remember this interview. It's the one with Bill Bill Sorry, it's the one
with Bill Duke being interviewed by I think his named DJ vlad Or but it's
on something called vlad TV, and the interviewer do this DJ vlad fella seems
like he doesn't really know how to conduct an interview because there are a lot
of awkward pauses and questions that don't lead anywhere, which, honestly, this
is my favorite. I love. I was so happy that we can come
back to this interview because I love this interview because of how awkward it is,
and because this guy's so bad at his job. But is it like
a L e. G. Situation like is he intentionally bad or is he
just editing or which I haven't not I haven't note here, but it's it's
more like, uh, like a real life version of that Chris Farley show
sketch on that Saturday Night Live. Oh yeah, so you'll you'll see right
here, this is the end of the command a part. So a Schwarzenegger
movie was essentially the biggest type of movie that you can be in and here
you are co starring. Well now you're you know, as an action star,
as one of the as one of the g I's right there with him.
And the movie was a huge hit. Commando did very well, very
well, and it was his foundation for his next movie, which is Predator.
Right what you were in as well, Yes, you had him gonna
do that too, Yeah, and you would a hell of a performance.
I remember that one scene when you were like look up in the trees,
like I see him, the tension of like you know, I guess that
was the first time you actually sort of saw the Predator and his uh in
his camouflage suit. It was it was a hell of a movie, man.
I mean, The Predator is one of these all time classics to this
day. I mean, which is why they ended up remaking it eventually.
It was it was, it was I cannot tell you the experiences that totally.
You know, it's like, it was a great experience. We all
bonded because but we're in conditions that were unbearable heat sometimes over one hundred degrees
up in the middle of the jungles of Portavata. Then we moved down to
Polank near the Guatemalan border, and it was I say this in the book
also that you know, the first week we were there, the caterer put
netting around the tent that we ate because of the bugs and the animals.
And the first week, no matter what the food was, there were bugs
in it. Say take this crap back, we're not eating it. There's
bugs in it. But by the second week there was no more food.
So the bugs we came. We called prota, so you guys ate the
bugs. Yeah. Any crazy Schwarzenegger stories between those two movies, well,
Arnold was always you know, he's a jokester, but you know, one
of the crazy things in terms of Predator you know, we were in this
hotel in Mexico, PARTA, and he just bought out ballrooms and had tractors
and trailers from La ship in gym equipment that filled the ballrooms. So the
ballrooms became gems and every day that we shot and I did it for like
a week or so, and then I didn't. But him and the guys,
Jesse and the other guys, say we had let's say we had a
seven thirty call on the set. They would get up like a three or
four thirty. Then they run a few miles, then they come back and
work out in the gym for an hour and a half, then go to
breakfast and then go to the set. That was the routine. I did
it for a week and they called me a whimp after that, but I
didn't care. But it was crazy. Okay, that dude asked one question
and it was not a good question. Yeah. I just love how he
didn't bother to edit the video at all, like I'm going to leave all
that awkward. Maybe doesn't think he's awkward like all in there. Well,
no, he he talks like you would be having a conversation with somebody,
you know, he'd be like oh yeah, and Predator was a big hit,
Like that's what you would say, but he says it and Predator was
a big hit, and like expecting a response, and like, uh,
Bill do is like expecting to be interviewed, so to be asked questions professional.
Yeah, so he's doing like a casual conversation thing, but he's asking
questions with the wrong inflection and just expecting a response, acting as that is
an interview and buildings like the fuck's going on here? Again? Technically he
only asks one question. Most of those were just statements and then like waiting
for stop and just like for buildup to respond, just like and implied,
well do you want to expand on that? But like expand on what?
Man? Yeah, you'd be like, oh, that's a cool car.
You expected me like, oh yeah, I got this back in like nineteen
two. My dad and I rebuilt the engine, you know, like yeah,
exactly. But saying you got a nice car isn't a question. It's
a steam. Like I said, it seems like the Chris Barley Show.
He's like that scene when you're in the trees and stuff like that. Yeah,
absolutely, man, Yeah it was great when you were late in the
Beatles, Yeah, it's anyway. Okay. So the last one is Bill
Hayter on The Dan Patrick Show. And we found out when we did Collateral
Damage episode that Bill Hayter was actually Arnold's production assistant on that movie. So
this is him telling a Predator adjacent's story. When you were around Schwarzenegger,
weren't you, yeah, as a PA? Yeah, are you listening to
his voice? No? Yeah, I was. There was so much else
going on, what else was going Can you tell one good story? Yeah?
He would. He would make he made uh, he's talking about Schnitzel,
Like we were out in the middle of the jungle shooting this Monde Colateral
Damage, and he would go, you know, this is where and I
was like, I am. It was I would have schnitz flown in for
the cast and crew, and I am, And then just be a long
pause and you go, car weathers he ate, Jesse Ventura, he ate.
Just then just all this punctuated with just jungle sounds and me sitting there
terrifying. I am. And then he just went through the entire cast of
Predator and everybody ate Schnitzel, and I was like, yeah, it was
like Shane Black heah. I was like director John mctee and the that was
just going like, I don't even think he's even talking to me. I
think he's just kind of having a moment. Yeah, yeah, but I
have very little interaction with him. It was kind of you know, there's
that that's actually true because there's a trivia tidbit about him bringing planks or bringing
schnitzel in for everybody. I think he does a lot on his movie,
which awesome. Yeah. I love the idea that he's just cataloging who is
and is not eating. He's got like a notebook. The never gonna work
with that guy again. Bill Duke did not eat the snitz he didn't eat
it on Commando. I gave him another chance. But that's why we never
made a movie together again. Never again. Okay, that's that's that's it
as far as the production stuff. Great, all right, So we are
going to go watch this movie, some of us for the first time.
Yeah, yeah, we're not gonna say who Yeah, I want to call
you losers, but I am so fucking jealous. So I am very envious
of your situation. Just me. Yeahs. As of the pre watch,
I accidentally watched the movie. So okay, yeast part of it. Well
yeah, now I'm jealous of of of both of you, like I wish
I can watch Just again for the first time. Yeah, and that's pretty
much yet. So I guess there's only one thing to say this Defin will
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