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Made a decision. Oh pay Sonny
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I love the name of Oh here
we're going oy hiy. Allisons is

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our new best friend. And uh, you're still doing the podcast Alison Rosen.

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You're welcome. Thank you so much
for coming. We've been looking forward

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to this for a long time.
Yeah. You know, I have to

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say I learned something from Alison Rosen
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our podcast. I remember doing your
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you were so good at your interviews. I remember like when I would talk,

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you would zip it. But but
but because it's my nature to go

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yeah, uh huh yeah huh.
But so I learned to stop doing that

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and just kind of nod instead,
which in its place makes me feel like

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I'm going right right instead of you
know what I'm saying, Yeah, this

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makes sense to Yeah, I learned
that from you. Oh, thank you

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so much. That's that's so nice
to hear. And also I'm happy to

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hear that I do that, because
sometimes I hear myself or I think that

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I'm going uh huh yeah a huh, and then I'm like, that's not

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going to be a joy to listen
to right. I'm glad that I don't

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automatically do that. Yeah, I
didn't learn that, and now I have

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to see people's comments going stop saying
right right all the time. I still

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do say right, though, because
you want to let the person know you're

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with them, and yeah all that. Yeah, I think I still do

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it a lot, but at least
I catch myself like every now and then

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like, okay, like just nod. All you have to do is just

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nod. You know, that makes
sense. I picked it up from you.

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I was like, yeah, that
makes sense that she doesn't do you

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ever in real life though, Get
this happens with Daniel. Sometimes I'll be

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tired and I'll be listening, but
I will feel like if I don't keep

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going, I feel like if I
don't do that, he'll think that I've

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tuned out, and I don't want
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gets very tiring. Right, but
we need like some other thing, like

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just to like, if my eyes
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not really true, I'm breathing.
Do you ever listen to Daniel talk and

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your brain you start thinking about something
else by accident, and you're like,

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what you need to get at the
grocery store, and then you lose folk,

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you lose what, and then you
have no idea where you are in

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the conversation. So and then you're
busted and then they say like so yeah,

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or do you agree? And then
you have to go, I'm so

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sorry I missed like the whole last
thing you said, and you have no

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excuse. It's not like a siren
went by. It's just like your grain

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marriage. He he'll say to me, so, what do you think about

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that? I'm like, oh,
God, he knows. He's trying to

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he's trying to trip me up.
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I'll be like, I'm so sorry
I missed everything I missed the last twenty

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minutes. Yeah, it's hard to
focus, especially because I have I don't

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know, if you don't know,
Stephanie and I. Stephanie and I spent

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like a day together. We are
new new best friends. You did my

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show and then we did a Patreon
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like a two hour Patreon I do
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it was like an hour. But
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together. Oh, I think we're
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started. We did two dry in
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a big talker, No, not
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out of her show. Yeah wait, why did I start talking about that

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though? Because of Daniel, because
of trying to Oh, I know what

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I'm saying. I don't remember if
I got into the fact that I have

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like a real phone addiction problem.
I think everyone does right now, but

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I feel like I do, especially
so He'll be talking and it's I love

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him, He's my husband. It's
interesting, but like if you could see

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what I'm seeing, It's like he's
talking and then like he gets dimmer and

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dimmer and dimmer and further, and
then my phone is like getting brighter and

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brighter and brighter and bigger, and
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I have to check to see if
but here, like I'm in a fight

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with someone on threads and I have
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know I'm going to be mad,
and I'm pre mad already. I'm like,

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uh huh uh huh uh huh right, bad, right, I do

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that when I'm watching movies. I
tune out, and people would hate watching

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movies with me because I go,
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It's like, who is that?
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I'll do this with podcasts and then
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heard the whole podcast because I was
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at the same time. And then
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all the way back, like it'll
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need the right I'm like, and
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the beginning and realize, oh,
I really did miss a lot of stuff,

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no idea what was going on.
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assigned reading, like I would you
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I mean in that my eyes went
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no idea what I didn't comprehend it. Some people would say that we have

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ADHD. I'm not guessing, so
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oh really yeah, but I'm like, well, I don't know what that's

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based on. And also who's right
my therapist or things I've read on TikTok.

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else. When I was listening to
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to Distraction when I was when I
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was suspected about me when I was
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on medication for it, and I
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commented that they think some of the
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messaged me and said, it sounds
like you've ADHD, But what do they

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know? Well, honestly, it's
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supposed to do besides on medication?
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right. I feel like now this
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controversial. So I think ADHD medicine
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and especially I'm sure there are tons
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needed medication, I would put them
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would be so scared that it would
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think maybe I was medicated for adhd. But back in the day when it

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was only riddling' and I think it
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Both we've tried the Dexa trim right
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didn't try. I tried Dexaterra.
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to be speedy. Now. I
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something. Dexam It was terrible.
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but Dexa Trim was something that was
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could get it at the ground.
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guys went through the shoplifting phase around
thirteen, of course. Yeah, oh

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yeah, so I remember watching my
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we were at the grocery store and
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Trim and then you know, it
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She like slipped one up her Quicksilver
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It was very bold. Yeah,
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you. Were you ever with somebody
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and I only dipped my toe in
the kryptomaniac shoplifting kleptomaniac. Yeah, waters

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want at Disneyland and it was such
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totally get it. And I feel
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you know, very cheap little rings
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even care. No. But then
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busted for stealing a swim People that
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right the Winona Ryder, Yes,
but I'm on. But she got

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busted for stealing a swimsuit from like
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I don't know if I'm mixing this
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but I feel like she got,
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in the basement of the mall or
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to I want to hear just to
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a mom now, yes I am. Last I saw you you weren't a

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mom, and now you are,
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you's got like four kids. I
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no. Yeah, so I have
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birthdays in February, so they're going
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Elliott and Owen. And yeah,
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think I had started doing fertility stuff, but I wasn't doing IVF in earnest,

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okay, but then I did so, and it was like a number

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of rounds of I have endometriosists and
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eleven. I guess that can the
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interfere with fertility, and I didn't
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get eggs. So I did,
like a number of egg retrievals, ended

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up with I forget how you know, a few embryos, transferred all of

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them eventually and ended up with two
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was really trying to and it's a
hard and you guys know, it's like

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a hard place to be. But
I was trying to tell myself, I'm,

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you know, spending all my time, all my money doing this,

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but I'm okay if it doesn't work, it might not work, and I'll

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be okay, I'll get a lot
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so then so lucky. But yeah, I so I have two boys,

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and can I ask a couple of
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Lynette both right, I did IVF
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pregnant? Yes, okay, so
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a family, like, I'm going
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my gynecologist said to me, And she

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said this a few years before I
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what I tell She said, this
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thirty five, try for six months
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fertility clinic. So that was in
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for maybe like five months, and
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Like I didn't know that endometriosis is
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I didn't know that, and people
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was already happening, and I just
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expensive and I'm a whimp, and
it sounds invasive. And I had it

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in my head that freezing your eggs
is something you do if you want to

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bring a child into the world without
a partner. And I didn't want to

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give up on the idea, Like
that's how I framed it. I didn't

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want to give up on the idea
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like doctor Drew was even like,
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a cliff when you're blah blah blah, and I'm just like, no,

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I'm not going to listen to that
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a sense of urgency. So I
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it didn't occur to me that it's
a good idea to freeze your eggs

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so that then when you're ready to
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you have a better shot at it. That just didn't occur to me.

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what, just goes straight to IVF
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and it's just gonna waste time and
money. And I was like, no,

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I'm still going to do all the
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that. I just we did the
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for a little while, and then
doctor Drew was like, listen, cut

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the crab, like if you want
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specialists. So like that's what we
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of fertility and then it worked.
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did you do what's called a fresh
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fresh So a fresh transfer is when
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think, I want to say,
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close after. Maybe it's not even
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less after the retrieve after they like
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they take the embryos and they freeze
them and then they kind of get you

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ready, but there's a longer time
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yeah, yeah, it wor that
yeah, and then yeah, it

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worked the first but I remember specifically
saying, like I they only had three

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embryos they were going to put in, and I was like, uh,

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all three at the same time.
And they were saying, because embryo A

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has less than forty percent chance and
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less than eleven percent. And I
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and he's like, well, that's
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I know what they are. And then

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then I had a third heartbeat for
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always this like like kind of faint
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streaking out. Yes, I was
like, oh my god, I knew

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this was gonna I got three babies
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the twelfth it just kind of got
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I was like, oh that's okay, well, okay, twins that I

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can handle. So like I Actually
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I found out I had twins,
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initially, you do, so they
so nowadays most clinics will transfer what they

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call a blasticist, which is where
they let the embryo grow for however many

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days, and a blasticist is like
more cells versus like a six to eight

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cell thing. There's reasons why they'll
do blasticists, and they can like do

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genetic testing on that versus just whatever
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embryo. For me, we did
three to five day embryos and those also

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have you know, they have fewer
chances of blahlah blah. So they wanted

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to do I think three at a
time for me, and I was like,

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that freaks me out. Let's just
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do two the first time, and
it was twins at the beginning, and

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I was freaking out. So I
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but not at the same time.
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apartment that was up a flight of
stairs, and I was like, how

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am I gonna Okay, let's say
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the babies somewhere. How am I
going to get both kids down the stairs

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and into the car, And like
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I couldn't solve it either, And
I have twins. Yeah, how

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well, So anyway, around eight
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heart, the doctor said to me, like, I think you're in the

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process of miscarrying that one. And
it was a weird it like was sad,

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but I felt guilty because I wasn't
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was supposed to be because I was
a little bit relieved. And how do

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you get twins down a flight of
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stairs, and we lived up Lake
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and it was like I couldn't even
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hills and I'm pushing a double stroller. But I, I mean, I

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don't know how I did it,
but we did it. And and Adam

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wasn't around, like he was gone
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myself a lot. And yeah,
and that's what we were talking about on

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the other show, like oh you
had a nanny and blah blah, blah

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blah blah. It's like, yeah, assholes, because we have nobody.

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yeah we had a nanny so but
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I just remember wanting to take them
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neighborhood because maybe when they were little
little, but then once they started becoming

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toddlers, then we got like two
of them and I'm pushing them up the

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hill. It's like it's out of
breast too much. Yeah, I mean

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one baby's hard and then you double
that. Right for me, I already

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had an older, you know,
a three year old, and then I

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have these twins and people would say
like, you got you gotta live your

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life, like go out to eat, and I was like, are you

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high? No, Like I I
did not ever want to a restaurant with

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them until the twins were at least
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even then I was like, that's
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that's not I would it's much more
relaxing to be at home. Yes,

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there's more cleanup, but like it's
terrible to be at a restaurant.

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It's not you're constantly like, sit
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are we gonna get him to eat? Like? You know, we went

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to the grocery store. Have you
guys been to Amazon Fresh? I have

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never been there. I don't recommend
it. I So I'm on this,

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Uh, this is what I do
with my time. Now, I'm on

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a quest to find affordable groceries.
Did we talked about this, right?

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You're a trader Joe's person, right, yes, yes, Because it's just

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it's just groceries are just too much. I don't want groceries to be my

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splurge. And on some like mom
board, people were talking about Amazon Fresh

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it's so great. So we went
there yesterday. It is not particularly affordable.

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They'll have like a deal on grapes
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I do not recommend it if you're
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we took the boys. Elliott,
the older one is like a dream.

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He is so well behaved. He's
just a wonderful little man. Yeah.

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And then Owen is crazy. I
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he gets very just sounds like you
don't love him. It sounds like you

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only care about one of your children. I mean, how old are they?

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when I look at Elliott, I
can still see the little baby that he

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was. He was in there,
I had Maconium, he was in the

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nicu, and there was a moment
I remember looking at him in his little

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like io ladder warmer or whatever,
where I was just like, who is

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this little person? And I still
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well, but very cute. Her
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I did her podcast at her house. Oh my god, they're adorable,

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so cute. Except Elliott's like new
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guests, he just stares at them. This is please please snap out of

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this phase. So Owen gets really
like overwhelmed in environments with a lot of

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stimulation, and it took us a
little while to put together what's happening.

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to like start talking and kind of
just like vocalizing, like in a loud

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way. So I'm pushing he's in
the cart, I'm pushing the cart,

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and it's just like someone is yelling
in my ear the whole time, and

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it is and I'm like worried about
him bothering other people, but he's not

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that loud, but still it's just
yeah, and it's like I felt like

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Daniel and I had been through a
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Like that was so unpleasant and we
kind of only did it. Yes,

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we had to get grocery, but
it was also because like we haven't done

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anything this weekend. We feel like
bad parents. We've been indoors. Let's

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just do something. Let's just get
out of the house, right, why

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why? Yeah, you're in the
trenches, right, yeah, thank you.

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That age, the age that your
kids are is like that feeling of

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oh my god, how are we
going to entertain them? We have to

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do this stuff. And if they
don't have like Lynette and I have complained

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about this a lot of a lot
where if they don't have a birthday party

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they're invited to, then there's nothing
like then it's up to you, Like

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I would love you know, you
get off cheap, you go to a

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kid's birthday party, you buy them
a present, but like that's the entertainment

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and somebody else is providing. Like
the more birthday parties the better. And

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of course we say divide and conquer, like one of us would have to

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take them to the birthday party.
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age, which is perfect because then
you have something to do. You're like,

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oh, between three and five on
Sunday, there's a party, and

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you're planning for it for like three
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little Justin's birthday party coming up,
so that's our weekend, you know.

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work or a play place or do
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of those since the Have I even
been once since the pandemic? Yeah,

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those could be. Those were where
I would take them. Yeah, when

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Elliott was like I think it was
before Owen was born, and oh it

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was little I used to go to
one a lot and the whole time,

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you guys know what pinworms are?
Yes, yes, I never I made

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it to my advanced stage without ever
knowing what pinworms were until like, of

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course I know about lice. I
remember the concern about lice. Growing up,

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somehow never knew about pinworms, and
then who mentioned Someone mentioned it because

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it had been like a plot on
a TV show, And the second I

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heard it, I was like,
worms out of your butt what like?

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And it was just like, oh
my god, I can't stop the I

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can't stop being worried about this and
so and the fact that like, oh

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everyone gets them. It cuts across
every so you know, there's no you

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cannot mitigate against it. So I
would just stare at the ball pit and

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just think like, pinworm, mags, pinworm mags, pinworm mags. And

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actually I like, don't lick any
ball I know. But and I volunteer

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at Elliott School one day a week
and I love it. I love it

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so much that I'm like, should
I just leave everything behind and become a

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teacher? And I don't. I'm
sure I would stop loving it if I

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did. But I got our friend
Julie Kayson, who's one of my very

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close friends. She her kids.
She would volunteer at the school so much

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that she was like, I'm going
to be the I'm going to go and

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be the yard monitor. She was
like a yard monitor. And it's a

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thankless volunteer. I'm so thankless.
So she didn't like that because it was

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really hard and having to just police
the pe and the outside playground. But

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now she she's an assistant teacher.
Oh that's interesting. She loves it so

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but now luckily her kids, she's
yes, she loves it. She loves

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it. Yeah, she's really happy. Yeah. I volunteered for this,

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for the the outdoor recess monitor thing. And I showed up the first day

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and sending in and Tali, You're
like, what the what are you doing

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here? And I go, I'm
volunteering. I'm doing my job. You

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got a volunteer. And they're like, volunteer for something else, like not

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out our like not during our break
time. We don't want you want I'm

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like, really, we're smoking cigarettes. Now I'm out of here. Elliott's

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still the age where he's very excited
for me to be there. I know

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that that won't last. But so
anyway, I'm at the school and I'm

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using the kids restroom because there's a
line in the teacher's lounge which I've decided

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I deserve to use. And the
whole time, just like pinworms, this

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is where pinworms happen. Oh god, I need to like I need I

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need to talk to my therapist about
that. Right, so far is good.

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But if I ever see and it's
owen, I ever see owen do

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a little like scratch, I'm like, oh no, yeah, yeah,

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I probably have. Did your kids
ever get lice? No? Did I

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ever tell you about the one time
that we had a scare at preschool?

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They they called me into the school
to pick up Xander. They said he

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had a lice. They found an
in his hair, They found a they

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found a lice. Oh God,
like not the egg, but they found

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a louse. Yeah, lause.
And so then I had to take Sadie

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also on spec because they're like,
if Xander has it, Sadie has it.

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So I had to go down to
this place that's like a it's called

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like lice fairies or something. I
don't know where they go, and they

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treat it for lice. And they
went and they combed through the hair and

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they're like, no, oh that's
good, it doesn't have he does not

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have lice. It was like,
I mean, if you say there was

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maybe there was just like a little
bug in his hair, but there's no

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They could find nothing. And they
checked Sadie as well, and I paid

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money for that and then like the
school barely believed me. I to like

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get a no. I I tried
to bring them back to school and they

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were like, no, too soon, guess. But I was like,

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they don't have it. Yeah,
yeah, it was annoying, soona they

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never actually had it. So what
are the you like going to the park

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and stuff, because Stephanie and I
used to hate. No, I don't

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like it. I don't. I
don't know. I do not like outdoor

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activities with kids either. We wait, hold on, let's take a great

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break. We're way overdue for a
break. Park, you guys discuss the

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park. I don't. I'm not
an outdoorsy person, so I don't and

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I'm not a park sand person.
Yes, I hate it. No,

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it's like I don't like sand.
Yeah, it's just And also if it

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were like I could just sit there
and mess on around on my phone while

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my kids have a grand time,
then that would be one thing. But

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it's not like that. I feel
like there's a lot of me involved,

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like Mommy put me on this and
mom and also my kids are like Mommy

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watched me, Like we got a
Nintendo Swim which for Christmas, which really

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is kind of an effort to get
them off their tablets and onto like a

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screen that's further away, because I
think it's better for it is the kind

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of parent I am. But actually
it is like there's a lot of movement

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and I think it's good. But
anyway, you would think that that would

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buy you some time. But Elliott
is like, we watched me play.

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We watch me play, and I
kind of remember being a little kid and

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how much more special it was if
your parent was watching. Right, So

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I try to but yeah, yeah, so no, I do not enjoy

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the park. We used to joke
about being at the park. How you

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know you could just give them a
thumbs up, like when they go watch

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me and then there did you see
me? And you go, yeah,

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you know I saw you? And
then do they feel maybe they feel seen

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by that. I should cooked on
the right, but it isn't. Yeah,

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you can't just go to the park
and just zone out. No.

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Also, if you're like we are, probably I'm sure you're like this.

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The playgrounds that they have these structures
that are kind of high up. Yeah,

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so I was always especially when the
kids are even younger, but like

406
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,599
that three age, You're like,
you can't just be walking around on a

407
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,920
platform. You're gonna fall off and
kill yourself. Like, I can't believe

408
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:15,519
nobody. It's like when I it's
like my driving anxiety when I'm on the

409
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,759
freeway and I'm like, how are
these people just driving? Like how are

410
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:22,599
people not constantly crashing? I can't
be at the park and not think that

411
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,079
my kid's gonna fall. You know
where the pole is, you know,

412
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,799
there's like there's no nets, Like
that's just so empty. Like you if

413
00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:33,839
you go to slide down the pole
and you miss, like that's it.

414
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,000
Yeah, how are people not getting
hurt all the time all the time?

415
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,759
You know what? I makes my
eyes get very wide? Young kids skiing,

416
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,440
Oh I know, isn't that weird
when you like see you let your

417
00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:52,240
tiny I mean and I'm sure it's
fine. And so other people, yeah,

418
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,200
you know that don't care about their
kids. It's the chair lift?

419
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,519
How how are you worried about?
I mean all of it, but like

420
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,200
especially the chair I would I would, Yeah, it gives me the hebgs

421
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:06,799
just imagining being on a chair lift
with my kids because I'd be so afraid,

422
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,079
Like, yeah, well, scormy
oen No. I remember I we

423
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,599
took the kids skiing when they were
like a bunch of people went like a

424
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,960
bunch of families for New Year's one
year, decided that we were going to

425
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:25,079
rent some house like in Big Bear
whatever, and there's like my friend Melissa,

426
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,880
her son is a year older than
my kids, and another family had

427
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,960
kids one year older than my kids. So my kids were like four,

428
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,279
they were five, so they've already
been on skis before, and I'm like,

429
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,200
I gotta get on a ski lift
with my kids, like there's no

430
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:44,640
seat, but like, what the
this is scary? I remember feeling like

431
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,079
that. And they're just going up
on the skis and putting their kids on

432
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,440
skis and their kids are going down
the thing and my kids are going nowhere

433
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,000
fast? You know. Did they
do okay? Though? Did they like?

434
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:56,720
They? They stood up on the
thing and tried. I put them

435
00:28:56,759 --> 00:29:02,599
in a little ski school to learn
the and they were like done within an

436
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,519
hour. They didn't. They didn't, Yeah, they weren't. They didn't

437
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,519
like it. The other thing too, that I was like, you know,

438
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,480
old school Italian, like my parents
never had a babysitter for me,

439
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,720
so like when we would go on
trips, everybody would go like, oh,

440
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:21,119
we got a babysitter to watch the
kids in the in the hotel room,

441
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,079
and I'd be like, oh,
absolutely not, you know. But

442
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,920
then once you have kids and everybody
else is doing it, it's like,

443
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,759
all right, how much is a
babysitter for one night? Okay? You

444
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:36,039
know? Do you I have?
We have never done that because we haven't

445
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:41,200
been on that many trips, right, and when we do, We've gone

446
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,720
to Hawaii a few times and my
mother. We've taken my mother in law,

447
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,359
which is like ideal because it's like
built in yeah, like built in

448
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:55,920
babysitter. But when I was little, we used to go to Las Vegas

449
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,200
all the time and it was not
like I feel like it's pretty family friendly

450
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:03,000
at this point, but it was
not back right, It's like we'd go

451
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:06,200
to the fashion show mall and we'd
go to Circus Circus and the pool.

452
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:08,400
Other than that, it was like
but whatever. It was just like I

453
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,640
grew up in Las Vegas, but
my parents would always get hotel babysitters.

454
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:18,000
So I have been babysat by a
number of hotel babysitters. Oh okay,

455
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:23,079
are they crazy? Expensive. I
don't remember because we did it what I

456
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,799
only did it one time. I
don't I don't remember, but I don't

457
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,759
think so it depends on where you're
staying, I guess, and I think

458
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:37,799
it was when we were in Hawaii
once. But but yeah, I don't

459
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:41,839
remember. I don't remember. Better
though, to do that, then remember

460
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:47,680
that story we covered. We covered
like we're journalists when we talked to you

461
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:51,319
in the field, Yeah, it's
out in the field. No, remember

462
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:56,640
that that guy that that had a
heart attack. Yes, in a restaurant.

463
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,400
He and his wife were at a
I think he was he adjournalist.

464
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,960
I think he was a reporter or
something. Anyway, they the ABC.

465
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:08,000
They left their baby, a six
month old baby and a two year old

466
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,920
in the hotel by themselves. In
they had a monitor this is this is

467
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:18,119
ringing a bell. And then they
went to dinner with friends. And then

468
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,279
the husband had a heart attack and
they had to go to the hospital and

469
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:27,359
they had and then the she called
some friends and said to go to the

470
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:32,400
hotel to check on the kids.
But like the hotel wasn't going to just

471
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,039
let some randoms, right, And
and then they got in big trouble.

472
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:41,160
She got them. So she was
like she died right. Yeah. I

473
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:47,480
remember thinking, oh, that's like
she just lost her husband and now she's

474
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:49,680
going to jail or prisoner or whatever. I don't remember if she was convicted

475
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:55,160
of anything. She I'm sure she
did. She really get that much trouble,

476
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,920
but she shoiuld. But like I
just remember going like, wow,

477
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,079
I guess you don't expect that to
happen, but how are you a fifteen

478
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,559
minute walk from No, that's in
Manhattan, Like, yeah, that's crazy

479
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:08,880
leaving your six month old baby.
No, I don't even like I remember

480
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:19,680
some friends remember sleep training such a
horrendous time of life. Yeah, some

481
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,680
friends that we were in like a
mommy and daddy in me group with talking

482
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:27,039
about how they have a guest house
and so they're going to put their baby

483
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,559
in there to sleep train them.
I had that reaction as well. What

484
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:37,480
how like so my studio is it's
probably like the distance from our house that

485
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,680
this is from the main house,
so it would be like maybe like five

486
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:47,039
feet further away. But I remember
Daniel didn't even want us to be in

487
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,880
there with the kids in the house, and I felt like, I feel

488
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,920
like that's okay, Like with our
monitor. Yeah, but even he felt

489
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,079
like that was even too far away. So the idea of like, so

490
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:05,680
he's more nervous than you, Yes, and yet one of the kids can

491
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:09,799
cry and I know it instantly and
he is so oblivious. M M.

492
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:16,480
Yeah, default parent, You're a
default, but it's always there's one default

493
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:22,119
parent. Yeah, I guess so
lately John's been with the kids more than

494
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,200
I have. And now he's here, here's phantom like the kids crying,

495
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,359
somebody will be laughing or whatever,
and he'll go, I feel like one

496
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:32,440
of the kids is crying and I'm
like, no, that's just Sadie laughing.

497
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:36,079
He's like, no, I feel
like I heard I heard somebody crying.

498
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,759
And I'm like, I don't.
I don't think so. And it's

499
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:45,799
a lactate too. I hear default
mommy, mommy, Yeah, mommy,

500
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:52,079
mommy, mommy, just right in
my head. I need to complain about

501
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:57,319
my husband for a minute for you, you would do so. Owen is

502
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,160
very into the solar system and planet, and I don't. I tuned in,

503
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,319
like while this conversation is already happening, but I heard him saying something

504
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:14,480
about how the sun is going to
explode and then they're like, the sun's

505
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:16,239
going to explode. And then he's
like, I mean not for you know,

506
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,679
billions and billions, And I said, what are you doing? Because

507
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:28,039
why why put this in their heads? And even though he's trying to mitigate

508
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,599
against the fear of being like,
no, it's going to billions of billions

509
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:32,519
of years, but it's like,
but okay, so now you're explaining to

510
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:36,199
them that they're going to which is
fine obviously, like, yes, we're

511
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:37,360
all going to die one day,
but like, this is a big thing

512
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,199
for a kid to again, right, And I just feel like, what

513
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,960
compelled you to think this was a
wonderful thing to tell your seven and five,

514
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,199
six and four year old? Because
I think he's a guy, so

515
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,719
he's more logical, so he assumes
that, like, well, logically,

516
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,760
that's not going to be something that's
going to affect us, But we as

517
00:34:54,880 --> 00:35:00,360
women feel that I think more emotionally
to like but line is, I was

518
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:05,320
going, yeah, I could see
myself doing that. I was just gonna

519
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:09,239
I know, it's kind of an
honest it's an honest thing. He's like,

520
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:15,639
here's a fut my boys, don't
don't think about how it's going to

521
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:22,199
affect them because yeah, because then
so it kind of like went away.

522
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,840
And then last night Owen brought it
up, brought it up like the Sun's

523
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,800
going to explode, but not for
a long time. And then Daniel was

524
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,719
like, I mean by then we'll
be on spaceships going to other planets.

525
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:40,639
And then it's like, so,
now, Owen, his head's gonna explode.

526
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,679
He is really thinking that we're going
to be on a spaceship like going

527
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,480
to another planet. And then I
was trying to explain to him that's not

528
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:53,880
it's going to be for not many
many like not in our lifetime, and

529
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,719
then hoping like that doesn't go to
uncomfortable place and I know, yeah,

530
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:04,519
yeah, yeah, you're right,
Like guys they don't think about that stuff

531
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:08,199
like that that moms do. I
guess, you know, let's should we

532
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:14,360
take another break real quick? Yeah, let's take a break. So let's

533
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,039
talk a little bit about like what
you're doing. Like your podcast is huge

534
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:23,679
now, it's huge, So how
how long have you been doing Alison Rosen

535
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,559
is your new best friend? And
did you start that when you were still

536
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,480
wait are we are we break?
Have we broke back? Yeah? Okay,

537
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,519
yeah, so Alison Rosen Is Your
Best Friend? I actually when I

538
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:39,280
was living before I was on Corolla. When I was living in New York,

539
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,159
I had a live streaming internet show
called Alison Rosen Is Your Your Best

540
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:47,280
Friend? I did Wow. Yeah, it was on you Stream, which

541
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,960
I believe is maybe still around in
some format. But anyway, I did

542
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:58,280
it for three hours every I can't
remember it was Sunday or Wednesday. But

543
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:00,639
the weird thing is it's actually for
people who are familiar with my podcast,

544
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:07,159
Like a lot of the things from
the podcast started in some way on that

545
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,800
show, like some of the segments
I do like just mirror everyone and various

546
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,760
other ones, the jingles and things
like that. So then when I moved,

547
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:19,599
did you have listeners like viewers?
Yeah, I mean it was a

548
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:23,400
stream. It was a small It
wasn't like I didn't have a humongous audience

549
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:29,360
or anything. But I remember you
Stream would sometimes feature me on the front

550
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,880
page and it was like me and
Joe Rogan, who was also doing you

551
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,199
stream at that time. I was, Oh, that's interesting. Did you

552
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:42,079
make money? I mean I went
out and like got a sponsor once,

553
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,039
so that and then I had I
like sold merch and stuff like that,

554
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:52,559
but no, it was. It
was not a money making venture like in

555
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:55,480
any way at that point. It
was I was just kind of experimenting and

556
00:37:55,559 --> 00:38:00,000
seeing what was happening and stuff.
Moved out to Californy started doing the Croll

557
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:05,880
Show, and uh, I wanted
to bring it back. I think the

558
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:13,360
time was not right. Uh,
And then they approached me about doing I

559
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:20,840
think it was like a singles version
of Parent Experiment or for Crying Out Loud.

560
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,679
I don't know which one was.
Yeah, I think it was.

561
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:28,079
It was only fight Lyn and I
have ever gotten into ever this was.

562
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,360
I feel like this predated you though
probably yeah, yeah, maybe, and

563
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:39,159
so you and I host this show
together. And then I forgot about that.

564
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,440
I'm sure that wasn't after we were
for Crying Out Loud Singles Edition.

565
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,599
I think it. I think we
had started it was was it a Psychic

566
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:51,039
Friends Hotline? No, this was
this was way before that. This was

567
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:52,679
before this was like so it was
this one. She was still doing it

568
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:59,480
with Teresa. No, because they
came along after Teresa. So we've been

569
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:04,039
with Zan I think so, I'm
not one hundred I'm not one hundred percent

570
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:07,480
sure because it was just like a
pilot, like nothing ever happened with it,

571
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:15,159
because really quickly they were like,
why don't you do your own show?

572
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,199
That's what happened. And so then
I remember trying to call with the

573
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,119
name, and I remember you saying, I like Alice and Rosen's you your

574
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:27,880
best friend? Because I think that
maybe during our little piloty thing, I

575
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,480
had like date done some of the
segments that I was used to doing,

576
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:39,840
so you knew that I had like
that stuff. So then it was not

577
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:43,639
like they said that and then it
was like, now here's my show.

578
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:45,280
It was like there were some ups
and downs, but but then I started

579
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,679
doing it. Yeah, So that
was while I was still at Corolla,

580
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:53,519
and then I was no longer at
Corolla, and I was like, oh

581
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:58,239
shit, I gotta like I'm gonna
I'm gonna keep doing this and I'm gonna

582
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,400
go independent. And I one thing
I am proud about is that I never

583
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:07,199
missed an episode. Like I was
just like very I it kind of like

584
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,079
gave me a like lid a fire
under my ass of like I've got to

585
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:12,320
do, you know, I've got
to like find a place to record,

586
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,000
which was my dining room, and
I got to you know, get my

587
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:16,239
ducks in a row and stuff.
So yeah, I've been doing it since

588
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,760
then. So as soon as you
found out you weren't going back to Corolla,

589
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,639
because that was quick, right Like
when you found out then it was

590
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,119
just you were done. Oh yeah, it wasn't like it wasn't like another

591
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:30,239
month around. So you and you
had been recording that at the studio,

592
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,320
yes, okay, So how did
you did? You just go like,

593
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:37,960
I gotta get what were there casts
back then? Like what? How did

594
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,199
you know what to get? So
I had already purchased a Zoom recorder,

595
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,079
which remember you're like, oh,
you used the old school one is what

596
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:50,000
I still use? Okay, it's
weirdly sticky, like the rubber on it

597
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,519
is sticky, and I'm like,
I think it's disintegrating, but it still

598
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:57,280
works. And so I bought and
I purchased some microphones, and I think

599
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,199
I did that. I did that
while I was still at Corolla. But

600
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:06,280
I think the idea was I wanted
to be able to like do remote recordings

601
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,800
as well, so I had that
stuff and then I think I quickly just

602
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,079
bought more of the stuff that I
needed and like set it up in my

603
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,719
in my living dining room, which
we didn't use to. Actually, we

604
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:25,039
had like one holiday meal there via
people in front of the couch. Yeah,

605
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,920
so set it up and then just
started recording there. Yeah, and

606
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,559
then you got you used to have
some of the guests where like people like

607
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:38,920
from Corolla, Right, you are
going there. Oh, I'm sorry,

608
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,239
I know. It's okay, we
can, we can, we can.

609
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,360
I'm sure people are just curious.
Every as I said to you, even

610
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,840
before we were recording these all these
for crying out loud fans are like your

611
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:57,360
fans. Okay. Yeah, so
I don't even know where she's going I

612
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,239
don't really honestly even know either.
I'm just okay, I have to talk

613
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:06,320
about anything you don't want to know? We can. So yeah, Well,

614
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:14,440
so my Thursday show was it was
Matt Fondelier, Laxamana Gary and Kaylin

615
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,280
am I leaving anyone out, No, that's who it was. And then

616
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:23,480
my friend Jenna usually Okay, So
I emailed the guys and I was like,

617
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:30,039
hey, I'm fired. You know, I would love to continue doing

618
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:37,559
the show. I'll be recording at
my house, but I completely understand if

619
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,719
you're not able to do it anymore, Like you know. I don't know

620
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,159
how I articulated it, but in
essence, like whether you're not able to

621
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,119
or whether you don't want to make
the drive anymore, because it was super

622
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:52,400
easy for them to do it before
because they were already there, your right,

623
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,360
and they all wrote back like right
away and we're like we wanted to

624
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,039
still do it. And I was
like, oh my god, like that

625
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:06,360
that is so heartwarming, and they
told me I'm hesitanting just I feel like

626
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,920
anytime I talk about this stuff,
I worry that people are like, she's

627
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,440
not out right yet, you know, and so it's always like thorny for

628
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:17,480
me to talk about it. But
you asked, so I will, okay.

629
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:22,760
So they told me that they asked
Adam and that he said it was

630
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:28,440
okay. So we record an episode. The sound was terrible. It was

631
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:31,400
terrible because I didn't now I remember, I didn't remember. He didn't.

632
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,599
He wasn't doing you were there though, I was. I remember going over

633
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:37,960
to your place. Yeah, I
wasn't doing the recording right. No,

634
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:43,880
it was Gary, but it wasn't
his fault. We had omnidirectional microphones and

635
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,880
I didn't know how to use them, and that I had borrowed them,

636
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:52,199
so it was like really like echoe
and washy I think, and then super

637
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,119
relatable. I used to have a
yet the yetty Blue mic, and I

638
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:02,119
didn't understand there's so many yeah,
and it was always sounded so tinny and

639
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,760
picked up anything from other yeah.
Right, but if I did it directional

640
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,159
so that it didn't do that,
it also didn't sound good. It was

641
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,079
just like a shitty micas yeah,
I think the yeah, I don't think

642
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:22,880
the yetti blue is the best.
So yeah. So then my emails went

643
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:29,280
unreturned for a little while. I
don't think he was the main one though,

644
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:32,760
and I was like, Okay,
something's up. And then I found

645
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:38,599
out that they were not allowed to
do my show anymore. Oh but not

646
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,239
in any sort of direct way.
That's that was the part I didn't enjoy,

647
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,559
was like the sort of whatever they
were in a terrible situation. I

648
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:53,800
understand that. I want to say, I feel like of the of the

649
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:58,199
like, what the fuck that I
feel towards those guys, I feel it.

650
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:04,960
I probably feel it the least towards
Kailin. Yeah. Yeah, that

651
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:07,280
was pretty soon. I think that
was pretty soon after I started there.

652
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,000
I mean, I don't think I
was there for very long while you were

653
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,920
still there, So I was still
just like running around. I didn't know

654
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,639
what I was doing either. We
were still calling him Brandon. Yeah.

655
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,400
Yeah, he didn't even know what
he looked, Yeah, because he looks

656
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,199
like a Brandon to us. You
do. We couldn't remember mckaylan, Kleb

657
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:29,800
Caleb something. I wonder if so
was Gary still our producer? I think

658
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,440
he was Maybee maybe yeah, I
think so. Wait? Why did why

659
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,559
did Gary become untethered from for crying
out loud? I think he moved on

660
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,119
to somebody else. I was doing
it with Gary for pretty much as soon

661
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:45,840
as I started working there, Gary
was and I was kind of sitting behind

662
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,519
Gary doing all the show notes.
And then I think he just got a

663
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:51,280
bunch of other work, and since
I was there anyway, he was like,

664
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,320
well, why don't you just do
this show? So he kind of

665
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,360
just handed it off to me.
That's yeah kind of how that happened.

666
00:45:55,599 --> 00:46:00,760
Gary took you under under his wing
early. Yeah, he loved you,

667
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,519
and he was like, I'm going
to train this kid and blah blah blah.

668
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,079
Okay, so then all these guys
are not responding to so what did

669
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:08,880
you do? So then I'm like, well, fuck, I got to

670
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:15,800
get new people really fast. So
I did, and I actually had he's

671
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:20,280
controversial, but Shane, do you
know Shane Dawson, he was not.

672
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,880
I don't think he was as controversial
then Okay, he's like a really very

673
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,960
big YouTuber. Okay, and he
came on the first episode along with my

674
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:31,440
friend. I just had different friends
coming on and still Jenna Kim Jones,

675
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,480
who was a comedian who had been
a constant on the Thursday Show before,

676
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,679
and she was actually someone who had
been on the New York version of the

677
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,039
Internet streaming show. So yeah,
she moved to LA and so when I

678
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:47,000
started doing the group show with those
guys, I was like, Jenna was

679
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:51,480
great, I gotta get her on. So yeah, I just sort of

680
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,239
I would have different people on and
experimented, and then we kind of solidified

681
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:00,039
into a regular group, which was
great. Those were like some people feel

682
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:04,679
like that was like the you know, like the golden era of the show

683
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:08,360
for because there were these you know, personalities that they knew, and I

684
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:13,760
forget how long it was the same
people, But then people's lives moved and

685
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,320
Jenna and her husband moved to,
uh where do they go to? Georgia?

686
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,320
She still comes on sometimes, but
still like we lost them. And

687
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,440
then Greg Heller, who used to
come on all the time, was just

688
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:25,679
like he was in Venice and he's
like, I cannot do this drive anymore.

689
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,519
But they still come on sometimes,
but now it's more of a rotating

690
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:32,719
group. Okay, is everybody always
in studio or do you do zoom?

691
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,559
So during the pandemic I did zoom, right, but now we're back to

692
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:38,639
in studio. Yeah, so Thursday
I have the group and then Monday I

693
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:43,159
do a one on one interview,
right, So okay, so you still

694
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,679
do a group, yes, yeah, yeah, but do you find it

695
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,519
challenging to always figure out who's going
to be part of that group? Like

696
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:53,480
what if you can't find people?
If I can't, It's honestly never happened,

697
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,360
and there's been stuff I'm sure you
guys have this happened too, where

698
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,199
like someone will let me know the
morning of they can't do it, and

699
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,559
then my other guest will drop out, and then I'm like, Okay,

700
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,320
I feel like my body's on fire
and I'm just like I've got to go.

701
00:48:10,639 --> 00:48:15,480
But it's always worked out. But
if it weren't to work out someday,

702
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:17,320
it would be fine because Daniel,
my husband, is usually on it

703
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,679
and in the audience loves him.
And then Tony, my producer, you

704
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,400
know, is also like really good
on Mike. So it's fine. We

705
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,360
could still do it. But it
just hasn't happened that I haven't been able

706
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,960
to get anyone, and you're doing
so many other things, like so you

707
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:37,440
have sub stack you were talking about, yeah, and we never got to

708
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:39,719
your story. Can you tell us
a little bit about what you have?

709
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,239
A big story? Oh yeah,
writing out on your substack. Tell us

710
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,199
about that. So some people might
know a little bit because I had talked

711
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:52,159
about it here and there. I
didn't know I was Jewish until after I

712
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,920
graduated college because my dad said we
weren't. And even though it didn't,

713
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:00,880
it increased as I got older.
Didn't make sense to me, like there

714
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:06,000
was a lot of cognitive dissonance.
I just but why did your dad even

715
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,920
have to say you weren't? Had
you asked him? Because my last name

716
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:14,280
is Rosen, so people assumed I
was Jewish always. And I grew up

717
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,440
in Orange County, California, and
in like a pretty non in like a

718
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:22,679
very arian area, very blond and
blue eyed and beechy and athletic, and

719
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:30,199
so people just and my dad's a
doctor. And the part that they didn't

720
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,880
know but that also but that I
knew, was that my mom's mom came

721
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,599
over from Vienna and the rest of
her family died in camps. So it's

722
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:42,199
like, how are we not Jewish? I don't understand, you know,

723
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:49,559
but yeah, So people were constantly
assuming I was, and then I would

724
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:52,280
say I'm not because my dad said
we weren't, and I just believed that

725
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:58,039
he would never lie to me.
And then we were walking around Babbo Island,

726
00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:00,199
which is this cute little area down
in Orange County after I graduated college,

727
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,599
and I said to my mom,
Mom, I know you've told me

728
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:07,320
before, but can you tell me
again, how is it that our last

729
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,719
name is Rosen and you're you have
relatives that died in the Holocaust and we

730
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:14,039
look Jewish and we're not. And
instead of saying any of the things that

731
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:17,280
I'd heard before, she said,
you'll have to ask your father. And

732
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:23,760
I was like, and it was
like this combination for years, like suddenly

733
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,159
it like, you know, moved
and I was like, oh my god,

734
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,800
so yeah, this is this thing
that I have. You know,

735
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,639
it's been part of my identity,
but it hasn't really made sense to me.

736
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:43,800
I've never whatever to feel Jewish,
whatever that means. Never. I

737
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,760
never felt that I'm not a religious
person. But it was just like something

738
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,840
like, well, I know the
truth as I am. But I also

739
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:55,960
bought the book Judaism for Dummies because
I want to know what holidays people think

740
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,159
I'm celebrating, because people are like
wish there were saying, you know,

741
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,639
saying things to me, and I
don't know how to respond. And so

742
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,199
it was really like nothing that ever
meant anything. It meant anything to me.

743
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:12,960
And then October seventh happened, which
I had a pretty profound reaction to,

744
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:14,960
like I believe I take I took
it. I was just like,

745
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:22,920
oh shit, it's uh wow,
you know. And so I've never written

746
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:28,440
about not knowing I was Jewish and
then finding out and all the pieces of

747
00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:30,719
that story. So did you ask
your father? Yeah, well so that's

748
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:38,639
actually yes. And let me say
this. Eventually we got to the point

749
00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:45,280
where we could talk about being Jewish
and why he lied, and it got

750
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,280
there eventually, But it did not
happen right away, Like that was a

751
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,920
process because when I asked him right
away, he was like, like,

752
00:51:54,559 --> 00:52:00,960
you know, I'm not religious,
doesn't we're not Jewish? Or what did

753
00:52:01,039 --> 00:52:07,320
he say? He said, oh
yeah, like no, he said I've

754
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:13,000
never been religious, like we're not
Jewish. And then I said, well,

755
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,280
but were you Jewish and you're a
kid, and he claimed he lied

756
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:22,400
long story short, like he claimed
that he had never encountered this idea that

757
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:27,039
Rosen is a Jewish name until he
moved to California, which is like not

758
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:36,960
true. And then he actually he
started crying and he said that his childhood

759
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:40,519
was so awful, which it was
he had like a very abusive childhood that

760
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,320
he said that his childhood was so
awful that he can't remember he can't remember

761
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,840
any details, which and I was
just like, well he just that's a

762
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:57,559
checkmate, Like I don't know what
to do with that. And it was

763
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:04,280
really like, my my friend has
this one woman show right now about finding

764
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,679
out. It's called How to Get
a Second Husband Jackie Johnson. She's hilarious.

765
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,960
Uh, and she finds out that
her husband has been cheating and she

766
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:16,440
confronts him and he faints twice,
like faking it, you know, And

767
00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:22,800
that was kind of I was always
very connected to my dad, and he

768
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,480
passed away in July, but in
his emotions and whenever, if he would

769
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:30,039
ever like tear up, I would
tear up instantly. But in that moment,

770
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:31,519
I just was like, this is
so fake, Like I know,

771
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:38,079
this is this is not real.
So wow, that's really interesting. And

772
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:43,880
so you're writing about this, Yeah, about sort of like in installments,

773
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:46,480
I've been doing that, and so
there's a free version and a paid version,

774
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:51,800
and the the installments that move the
story forward are free, and then

775
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:58,400
in between I do one that gives
sort of extra context and pictures and things

776
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,960
like that. Initially I was intending
to put pictures in the main one,

777
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:06,559
but it just, I don't know, I felt like too vulnerable to be

778
00:54:06,639 --> 00:54:08,880
doing all these like old family photos
and things like that, so I put

779
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:15,039
those in the paid version. Wow. Yeah, So it's been it's been

780
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:22,480
really interesting to write about it,
and to find out also that hiding decided

781
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:29,400
like the response to the Holocaust being
I'm going to hide it is not you

782
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,679
know, like so many people sent
me. Alanis Morisset was just on finding

783
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,440
your roots she didn't know she was
Jewish. She found out when she was

784
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,880
in her twenties. So the thing
I always feel like is my if my

785
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,079
dad wanted to do that, he
just should have changed our name right,

786
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:51,199
because he didn't like I changed it
from rosen Stein to Roses, like he

787
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,519
didn't know you should have changed it
to brown yea or right like Gurbels or

788
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:59,719
something. You know, he just
didn't go far enough because all it did.

789
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:01,480
What like, the only person that
believed we weren't Jewish was me.

790
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:07,719
No one that I told actually believed
it. So it just made me kind

791
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:13,760
of foolish. I think, yeah, wow, so you're doing a lot

792
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:20,280
of stuff your podcast you do childish, Yes, you do. Uh.

793
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:24,519
Alison and Todd After Hours, which
is a Patreon podcast. So Todd,

794
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:30,119
Perry and I did this podcast for
Upworthy weekly where we would talk about feel

795
00:55:30,159 --> 00:55:32,920
good news stories. Uh, and
then now we are doing it on Patreon.

796
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:37,679
It's it's we call it after Hours
because like when we were doing it

797
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,119
for Upworthy, it had to be
pretty like clean, and so this is

798
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,239
just it's a little you know,
we don't have to be positive all the

799
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,639
time, but it's still if you
enjoyed upwarthly weekly. You'll enjoy Alison and

800
00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:52,480
Todd after hours. It's fun.
We talk about news and quizzes and fun

801
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:57,719
stuff. And then also, and
you made a book. Maybe not everybody

802
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,880
knows that Allison has a book called
Topical Attire Encouraged and other phrases that scare

803
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,079
me. I love that, and
you have it a fifth anniversary edition,

804
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:13,400
so they where's my camera? Camera? Yeah, they are five new essays?

805
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,800
Tell us about that. So it
initially came out in twenty eighteen,

806
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,159
and then for the five year anniversary, the publisher got in touch and said

807
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:25,519
we want to re release it,
and so I said awesome, And I

808
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:31,480
did five new essays, including like
an annotated eulogy for my dad. And

809
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:37,599
I had already started writing the essays
when he died. So what a gift?

810
00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:42,679
Really, I'm just kid. Yeah, I know, I got a

811
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,559
new religion and a new yeah looking
out for me. No, actually I

812
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:52,280
had. He was always a really
big fan of my writing, and I

813
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,760
had written a couple of them.
Because when I sat down to write the

814
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,679
new material, I was like,
I am very out of practice and how

815
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:06,079
am I going to do this?
And it did not flow initially, so

816
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:09,400
when I, you know, worked
and worked on the first couple of the

817
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:13,239
new ones, I was proud of
them, and I was excited to send

818
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,760
them to him, but I just
hadn't yet. And that is like it's

819
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,440
I feel pretty good, like I
don't have any big regrets. But that's

820
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,960
just like a little bit of like
ah, man, I was going to

821
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,880
send those to him and then for
it to turn out that, like the

822
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:30,519
last one I did was the annotated
eulogy, But anyway, my husband did

823
00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:35,719
illustrations for each one. Yeah,
and so he illustrated the new ones too.

824
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,280
Wow, you guys are just a
ball of talent. Kids are going

825
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:45,320
to be off the charts having their
own sub stag I'm just opening this randomly,

826
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:49,599
and the one I came up to
was how I feel about your bathroom

827
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:52,599
scale. Whenever I walk into someone's
guest bathroom for the first time and see

828
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:57,800
a scale sitting out in case guests
should want awaigh themselves during a dinner party,

829
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,519
one assumes I reflect on the way
I would never ever casually step on

830
00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:07,800
anyway, it goes on super relatable, like immediately reatable. I have I

831
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,559
do always throw reaction to seeing somebody's
scale I'm like, oh my god,

832
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:15,000
how am I going to not weigh
myself? Like because I don't have a

833
00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:16,760
scale at my house. Oh okay, so I don't want to weigh myself.

834
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,280
Yeah, are you able to avoid
it? Yes? But it's like

835
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:24,519
it's like a It's like it's like
finding like paint pills in someone's bathroom,

836
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:29,760
like when I liked pain pills.
But you know what I'm saying, it's

837
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,760
like something that's very tempting that then
I have to talk myself out of doing

838
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,719
it. I am just always like
and I think I talked about it that

839
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,719
in They're like, who are the
people who just casually hop on like one?

840
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:45,480
You know, Like, no,
it's a whole. It's a there's

841
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:49,199
a meditation and a practice and a
discipline that goes with it. You have

842
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,679
to strip completely naked, take off
your earring. It's like you have to

843
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,000
be in the right in the zone. It should be first thing in the

844
00:58:55,079 --> 00:58:58,760
mornings. I need to be in
their bathroom first thing in the morning,

845
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,440
before I've eaten any meal. You
know, there's a lot that would go

846
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:02,960
into it. You gotta then I
have to be like, oh, this

847
00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:08,039
isn't regulated properly. This is it's
always off. Yeah, i'd have to

848
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:12,679
just I'm assuming they're five pounds over. You should probably bring weights with you

849
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:20,559
to make sure it's calibrated. That's
hilarious. Yes, well, I love

850
00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:24,760
Thank you so much Alison for coming
sure you've been wanting you to come in

851
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:30,360
for a while. And mazel to
your success and the kids. I'm so

852
00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:35,159
happy that you got your little boy. Me too. Yeah, thank you

853
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,840
so much. Nice being a boy
mom, right, yeah, yeah,

854
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,559
it is. I with both of
them, I was like, I can't

855
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:44,840
believe I'm not having a girl,
because I was so sure that I was

856
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,599
going to have a daughter. And
I was like, all the things that

857
00:59:47,679 --> 00:59:50,920
I feel like my mom could have
done better, I'm gonna do perfectly with

858
00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:54,199
my daughter. And then I was
like, well what, yeah, but

859
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,880
I do. I never I never
wish they were something else. Yeah yeah,

860
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:02,199
yeah, well well lucky they're really
cute, you know. I think

861
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:07,679
that's one of the more important Yes, I would not have I wouldn't have

862
01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:10,519
stood for anything else. Yeah,
exactly. Okay, Well, thank you

863
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:14,920
and thank you Elan, and thank
you to all of our listeners. And

864
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:21,800
you're a parent, now, don't
f it up. It's good letting,