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I woke up in the middle of
the night. Welcome to the Minnesota.

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Goodbye by the way, it's Dave
and Jenny and I woke up in the

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middle of the night and I don't
know if I had a dream or what,

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but I was thinking about love and
why we have love, why we

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want love so much. Now I'm
not talking about love from your parents,

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or love from your dog, or
love from your sister. I'm talking about

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romantic love. And all the other
love is important too, but romantic love

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is amazing. And when you fall
in love and you wake up thinking about

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somebody, or you go to bed
and they're the last thing and the first

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thing that you think of, why
is their love? Because somehow nature or

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Mother nature or our creator or whatever
gave us love. Why in our psychological

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makeup is love necessary? Is it
so we feel like we belong? Did

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it evolve? Did like early humans
not love each other? But then it

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kind of evolved. Love is such
a wonderful thing, but also love is

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awful when you lose that love,
like they break up with you, or

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they cheat on you, or God
forbid, they die. Why is their

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love? What is its purpose?
Jenny? I want answers now I think

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it's well, I don't know that
it has a purpose, but I think

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when people discovered what love was,
it obviously boosted how they felt inside.

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So associating something with happy feelings makes
you desire it that much more so once

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you realize love makes me so much
happier than yeah, you desire it more

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so. I think it probably was
an evolution of time because cave men and

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women were not in relationships for love. They were in relationships for survival and

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like and pro creating. Okay,
so I think eventually people realize that love

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is lovely and it is. But
then again, why, I just I'm

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just so interested in why is there? Do we need love to get by

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as a species? And maybe we
do. Maybe love is what makes us

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want to stay with that person that
we're having a baby with, even though

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there's a lot of dads and moms
that break up before they even have the

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baby or right after. So I'm
just curious, I mean, what,

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just like a deeper philosophical question.
What is love? Why is their love?

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And why does it hurt so much
when somebody breaks up with you?

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That's another thing. And if your
bra and somebody breaks up and then and

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then to make it even worse and
compound that even more, they're sleeping with

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somebody else. And now not only
do you not have them, but you

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know that they're with somebody else physically, they're canoodling and kissing and holding hands

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and going to you know, most
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why does it hurt? Why?
I don't have any answers, Okay,

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I don't. I think it's just
all psychological. But I also am not

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a psychiatrist, therapist or anyone who
could give you actual logic behind it.

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Maybe you know, maybe you've got
some answers for us. I don't know.

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We don't spend a lot of spend
a lot of time on that.

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I just thought it was really interesting
in a thought that woke me up in

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the middle of the night. All
right, let's get to the emails for

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today, and we have a bunch, so we'll see how many we can

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get to. This is from Andres
Andris. I'm not sure how you say

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your name for the woman who asked
if she was wrong for letting her dog

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go in a random person's yard.
Remember last week she wrote in the dog

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I think pete in somebody's yard well, I think they were just walking.

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I bought onto the yard because she
was on the street where I didn't have

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a sidewalk. Yeah, that's right. So the somebody yelled and then got

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mad at them. This says,
yes, absolutely one thousand percent, say

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what you want, but nobody is
entitled to let their dog do the potty

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on anybody's property but their own public
dog parks or other public areas. I'm

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a landscaper gardener, and you would
not believe the amount of money, time,

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and effort it takes to have a
beautifully green lawn, especially during this

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season where grass seeds are just starting
to germinate. Yes, you can pick

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up the poop, but will you
pick up the urine? Because dog you're

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in absolutely murders lawns. These are
facts that woman who was mad about her

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on lawn is definitely entitled to say
she doesn't want your dog on her lawn.

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It is her lawn that she pays
for. Okay, I can see

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that point. Honestly, though,
I think when you live in a neighborhood

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there's certain things that you just cannot
say. This can't happen when I am

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in my neighborhood. I have a
right not to hear you blaring your eighties

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classic rock while I'm trying to read
in my backyard. I have a right

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to not hear your dog bark every
time I walk by. I mean,

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I don't really have a right,
but it would be best if I didn't

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have to listen to your whatever it
is while you're fixing your car while I'm

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out in my backyard. But I
also I live in a neighborhood, and

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that's the price I pay. Yeah, what do you think I think?

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I don't agree. I think dogs
are allowed. I get where she's coming

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from, but I don't agree dogs
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And what are you supposed to do
tell your dog to stop peeing the moment

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that they're not on your own lawn? Like then you could sit and say,

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like, well, then you shouldn't
have a dog if you can't control

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where they pee. Like there's so
many arguments there, but I just don't

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agree with that dogs can pee on
someone's lawn and maybe it'll ruin it for

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well, I don't know how it'll
ruin it, but it might ruin it

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a little bit. I think if
you're that picky about it, then maybe

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you shouldn't live in a neighborhood where
people can. I don't. I don't

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know, but it's like I get
that first of all, in an average

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neighborhood, being so picky about your
lawn is just not going to work very

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well, you know what I mean? I don't know. Okay, Next

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one. I had a terrible week
last week. My eighteen year old Wiener

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dog, Walter. Oh, Walter, he sounds so sweet. He passed

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away early Tuesday morning in his sleep. And then that same day I had

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to make the painful decision to help
my eleven year old bully mix Gestavo cross

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the Rainbow Bridge. Oh my gosh, two dogs in one day. I

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will only say that I'm glad that
Walter passed in his sleep because at least

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you did not have to take Walter
down to do that, which is really

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hard. I am absolutely heartbroken.
Just cannot get over them not being with

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me. I work from home,
so I was with them all day every

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day, my best friends. I
feel like I have a black cloud over

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my head. I feel like I
failed them somehow, or that they didn't

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really know how much I loved them
or how much I terribly miss them.

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It's tearing me apart. I don't
know why I feel the need to email

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you about it. Maybe because I
know you guys are also animal lovers and

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understand. Maybe if you talk about
it on the radio, it'll be another

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way for them to know what they
mean to me. I'm probably crazy,

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but I don't mind any words you
can give me to get me through.

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This is so appreciated. Thank you
so much, Jade, Jade, there

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are no words that really will help
you. I only say if you send

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me an email. I guess you
did send me an email. I'm going

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to send you back something that I
send two friends when their dog dies,

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and it is something that if you
give me a second, I can find

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it. It is basically is like, is it a poem or something.

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It is like it's a very very
primitive line drawing of a little dog and

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I'm trying to get it to blow
up on my phone and a culture.

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I won't do it right now,
damn it. It says no, I

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can't read it. I can't get
it to blow up on my phone right

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now. But it's basically a dog
saying I know how much you love me.

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I wish that we could be together
forever. We had so many good

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times together. But I love you
even right now because I'm old and I'm

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tired, and I know this is
best for me. So and it's like,

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I wish I could tell you how
much I love you, so I

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will send that to you. And
that it doesn't help. It is just

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heartbreaking. You know. People will
go, well, it's just a dog.

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Well to you, it might just
be a dog, but that's your

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buddy, yeah, I mean your
buddy Walter is with you for eighteen years.

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When when Fallon's dog Elliott died,
that was Fallon's buddy since she lived

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back in Indiana, I know,
and I only lived with Mickey for a

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couple of years when we put Mickey
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and it was so hard. I've
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because the only pet we had was
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four, so I didn't remember it, yep, and I was yeah,

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I was not prepared. So I
know that you're it's a hard time right

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now. But I feel better eventually, and you'll be able to look back

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at all your photos and your videos
of the dogs and like feel happy again

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because for a while I couldn't even
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devastated when Mickey died. I remember, my friend Curtis was never a dog

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lover, but he and his partner
Brian had a dog named Kirby, and

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Curtis fell in love with Kirby,
and when Kirby died, he was just

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devastated, like a death in the
family. And you know, I think

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one thing is this is something to
keep in mind. With a pet,

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when they die, you get over
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lose somebody that's like, you know, a cousin or a parent or something,

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because you never really get over you're
a human dying, and you don't

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really get over a dog dying either. But when you do get past that

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grief, it's much less present.
In other words, you get over it

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more completely. Would you agree with
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agree. I mean I still like, if something pops up with Mick,

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I'll start crying. I cried yesterday
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just put her cat down, and
then I brought up something with making it

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I started crying, so like,
there's definitely still that grief there, but

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it's not like weighing over me every
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a while. Uh. Hello,
everyone, I want to your guy's input

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because I feel like I have an
unpopular opinion. I really cannot handle when

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people say that something gives them some
sort of vibes but doesn't use the word

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vibes. Example, I'm wearing an
ugly asshold sweater and my friend says it's

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given Grandma. It's given grandma,
instead of saying it's given grandma vibes.

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Why doesn't anyone use the word vibes? I don't want or need to get

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that. It's all grammatically correct,
by the way, it's not because so

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many don't use the correct grammar all
the time. But it sounds so dumb

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and it makes my blood pressure rise
when I hear it, and I just

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don't get it. It seems like
everyone does this. Why uh? And

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then she asked, first, tome
writer sticker, which I got some more

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in the mail last week, so
I will mail went out to you in

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a few days. So it's given
grandma. Isn't there one of the sweepers

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that we have, which is one
of those things like the Dave Ryan Show.

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It's giving funny. Yes, do
we have one of those, right,

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I do have one of those,
And it's because it's a gen Z

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thing. It's how they describe things
nowadays. That's why. And I don't

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know who they're talking about in that
email that says like it's giving grandma how

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old they are, But that's a
total gen Z thing. And then millennials

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pick up on a lot of gen
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it too. But yeah, I'll
look at our girl's outfit and be like,

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oh my god, that's giving,
like queen, you know, like

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es. I'd be like, that's
giving Queen. Yeah. I would never

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feel coupable. That's not really me. I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that one.

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Dave Jenny Vaughan. I was recently
listening to the Minnesota Goodbye podcast and

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you mentioned an email from a staff
writer who talked about brushing their teeth before

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eating. I wanted to share my
input on this matter. When I was

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in boot camp for the US Navy, they used to have us eat our

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meals in the following order. Desserts
first, main meals, salads or leafy

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greens, fruits or other vegetables,
apples absolutely last. So I'll do it

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again, desserts first, main meal
salads or leafy greens, fruits or other

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vegetables, apples last. The justification
was that you would eat the unhealthy food

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first, then finish with the healthy
options that would eventually clean your teeth naturally,

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so you wouldn't need to brush your
teeth after your meal. Considering we

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usually don't have a lot of time
to eat, let alone time after meals.

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That was something I occasionally catch myself
doing randomly in the wild. Anyway,

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I always ate before I brushed,
because that's how I was taught,

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but I don't think it was through
Sesame Street. I am probably confusing my

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memory with my training. A right, thanks for the laughs. That's from

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Chris. Chris, I will give
you a cliche, but sincere, thank

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you for your service. I've always
thought if there was a branch of the

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military I wanted to join, it
would be the name. I wanted to

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be. The guy in an aircraft
carrier that waves the plane into position and

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then like like leans over it,
giving him direction. Yeah, and then

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like leans over and ducks underneath the
plane when they fly over and take off.

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I don't know if what they're called, but that's what I would have

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done in the Navy, so you
probably go do that at delta. Just

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go work down an MSP if you'd
want not the same, No, I

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know, I would be the same, not the same at all. I'd

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like to be on an aircraft carrier, but I wouldn't want to be in

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a room full of stinky, farting
sailors because you figure, you know,

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feels like a stereotype. You think
it just reeks in there all the time.

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I would imagine it does. Yeah, But it's interesting they say apples

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absolutely last, because apples apparently clean
your teeth first, but didn't say leafy

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greens was in there almost like second
to last. Yes, yep. I

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feel like that's what always ends up
being stuck in my teeth most of the

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time. That's why you're eating well, that's why you have an apple last,

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because the apple. But interesting,
I've never heard anything about like food

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cleaning your teeth in any way,
shape or form. You No, I've

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heard apples kind of like their nature's
toothbrush. I think nature up kind of

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made that up, all right,
Moving on to the next email. Let

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me do a little clicking and a
little tapping, and here we go on

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the top of a wedding, thank
you cards or any thank you cards?

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Can you discuss the proper turnaround for
a thank you card? Please? Two

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weeks, one month, three months? Does the size of the present determine

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the thank you card turnaround time?
Does the event birthday, baby shower,

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wedding determine to thank you turnaround time? Does the location determine the turnaround time?

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Do we give the married couple grace
because they just got married and are

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busy living their married life and they
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The wedding in question for me was
over a month ago. I gave them

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a good amount of cash. I
did not get a thank you card or

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even a thank you text or thanks
for coming to the wedding out of town.

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So what is the turnaround time?
I would say a month ish.

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I would say as long as you
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acceptable. Getting one is, you
know, a different thing. That's another

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story. Jenny doesn't think of thank
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I just said I don't care if
it's handwritten. I think a thank

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you note is good, but I
would give them two months, especially if

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someone went on a honeymoon, or
if it's like a destination wedding or something.

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I think you give them a little
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say two months. Either you're getting
one by two months, or you're not

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getting a thank you note. Uh, okay, next one. Good morning,

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guys. I fell behind on episodes
because they had a girl's trip that

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I hosted in Nashville. It was
the first annual trip. I'm so excited

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to continue doing them in the future. We plan on changing the destination every

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year, but I've really never been
west of Tennessee. My question is for

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a girl's trip on a budget,
no skiing or snowboarding, where should we

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go? We are not nightlife people
mostly want somewhere to chill and maybe go

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on a hike, good weather,
botanical gardens, tubing, whitewater rafting.

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We're pretty big foodies, love a
good coffee shop, not crazy touristy since

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we are all chill smokers looking for
fun outdoor adventures. I want to go

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to go to Minneapolis, but I'm
not sure I can sell everybody on it.

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Helped me convince them was totally unprepared
for you to shout me out on

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Tuesday for being one of the few
listeners if you did Patreon, I recorded

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it and send it to everyone.
Got my stickers that is from Cestna.

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Okay, so not expensive, no
snowboarding, chill, hike, good weather.

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Where would you send them, Jenny? Would you? Could you sell

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them on Minnesota? The I mean
there's definitely hikes on the north Shore that

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would be fun, but then that's
a whole like extra, like you fly

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into MSP and then you got to
like drive up to the north Shore.

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Yeah. So truthfully, no,
I probably wouldn't tell them on Minnesota.

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But I gotta be honest. I
can't think of a place that's going to

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have like adventurous, fun outdoor activities
that is affordable. I mean Denver is

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not too bad, and then you
could go hiking and do stuff like that.

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Like usually I don't know where they're
flying from, but like flights from

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MSP to Denver are usually decently cheap. But most cities, like Malibu,

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I did a girl's trip there and
it was expensive. Yeah, Like I

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don't know, most places are expensive
to stay at is what it comes down

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to, Like the lodging becomes expensive. That's very true. I would you

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know if I gonna sell you on
Minnesota. I would say, you're probably

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not going to come here for the
hiking unless you went, like to Tailor's

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Falls or down by the bluffs in
Winona. I would sell you on going

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on Lake Minnetonka. I would say, rent a pontoon boat and go out

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on the lake on Lake Minnetonka.
The only problem is if you go and

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it's shitty that day, and you
come in town for a weekend and it's

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shitty the day you're going to go
on in Minnetonka. So I don't know.

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Boating would be out. Colorado would
be awesome because there's whitewater rafting and

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there's gentle whitewater rafting where it's fun
but you're not in danger of drowning on

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the white water rafting on the Arkansas. And Colorado, of course there's hiking

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breweries. Weed is legal if you
like to smoke. When you said we

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were all chill smokers, that means
they smoke weed. But I would say

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Colorado. But then again, Colorado's
not really cheap either. I know,

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I don't know where's cheap. Savannah
was decently cheap for the bachelorette party that

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we did. In terms of places
to stay, I feel like that was

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a little bit more affordable. But
Savannah's not an adventurous city really. It's

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more of a like, go get
drinks and do ghost tours and see cemeteries

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and history and stuff. Okay,
gotcha? Yeah, And I think it's

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a hard thing. Is like finding
I don't know, something chill that everybody

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can agree on. But Minnesota might
be a little bit of a hard sell.

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I would I mean, it wouldn't
be for me because I love it

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here and I would know what to
do. But trying to get girls like

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Minnesota, why would I go there? Oh? God, that is pretty

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much it for the Minnesota Goodbye.
There's a couple that I did not get

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to. But for the most part, we're looking for more. Email.

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Let me know about love. Let
me know about why does love exist?

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Why does love feel so good?
Is it important as a species? I

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mean, ducks don't fall in love. Panda bears don't fall in love.

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You might go, oh, they
mate for life. I mean, but

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do they fall in love? Do
they really know what they're doing? Do

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monkeys fall in love or is it
just like they become attached to I don't

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know. Let me know any thoughts
on that all right. That's it for

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the Minnesota Goodbye. Send emails to
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