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Yo, what's up? Everybody's Tanna
mac here from Ana Marport. Welcome to

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another episode of the One Piece Visin
Podcast. We're back again and we are

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discussing chapters one ninety six to one
thousand and eleven, so like sixteen different

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chapters. Again. We were gonna
do this more often, but shit happens.

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However, we have a lot to
talk about and it's absolutely epic.

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And since there's like a three week
break now with the manga, the One

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Piece manga, I think this is
the perfect moment now to catch up once

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again. Joining me, we got
goes In and Briggs. What up guys?

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Yo? What up? Boys?
Good to finally be back. Yeah,

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good to be back. Last time
I think it was just me and

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Briggs because it goes down with nowhere
to be found. But this time he

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is back. Yeah. No,
glad to be back. Always excited about

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One Piece. And honestly, it's
because you guys did that episode by yourselves.

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But I was like, sixteen doesn't
seem as bad as like I thought,

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But it's because you guys did an
episode in between. Yeah, and

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I feel quite a bit. It'll
be fair you have I'm sure you had

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a legitimate excuse now to be there
wasn't because well, you're my brother anyway.

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So we got three big things I
feel like, I mean, there's

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a lot of stuff about but I
think three big aspects of the story to

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discuss are. One the backstory Kuma's
full backstory, because last time we started

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off with the God Valley flashback beginning
and we met like Ginny and and and

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the Eon, we saw young of
von Kov and young Kuma. But then

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after that we had the whole expansion
of Kuma's backstory was just quite possibly the

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most tragic backstory in all of one
piece, which is saying a lot.

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Yeah, obviously we got Genny's backstory, and we got Bonnie's backstory. Yes,

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we got a lot of backstories the
daughter of Ginny, right, So

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we learned a lot about Bonnie,
her true age and all this other shocking

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stuff. Then we had obviously Saturn
was already uh fighting on Egghead before this,

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but we had that escalate with Vegapunk
apparently being killed and then the death

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of egga Punk triggering an announcement that
Vegapunk is about to reveal the true history

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of the world to the entire world
using hacked transpond their snails all over the

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world, and then the world government
is panicking because of this, so much

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so that the other four gotos say
were summoned by Saturn two Egghead and they

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old teleport it just like he did
initially onto Egghead. They ald teleported all

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the way from marijhoa two Egghead like
instant dark magic teleportation. They all revealed

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their devil fruit slash devil forms whatever, because some people think it's not delfruit.

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Some people think they're actual de devils. There's a ton of theories out

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there, but basically they all revealed
their devil fruit forms. They all seem

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to be some sort of mythical zone
types with epic powers based on Japanese yokai,

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which are Japanese like demonic mythical demonic
beasts. And at the end of

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the very last chapter some onenty eleven, we had that giant robot from theanch

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Kingdom wake up and say I'm sorry
joy Boys. So it was just like

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nuts. That was a great summary
of everything. That was a great Submary.

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Yeah, I was gonna Now we're
gonna go through things a little more,

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a little bit more detailed. I
do want to say I read about

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fifteen of these chapters or fourteen of
these chapters today and I had it.

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I was not caught up. It
was actually embarrassing. I was on stream,

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like getting emotional over the backstories and
losing my fucking mind at like all

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the different like when Loofy drabs Kizaru
and the Elder in his Giant for I

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always losing my mind today reading these
chapters. But we should start off with

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chapter one ninety six though, right, And just just to say, at

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first, on the one hand,
that's cringe, Briggs, I was caught

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up before you you're you're a fake
fan. But on the other hand,

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it's cool that now you're fresh for
the podcast so exactly. But yeah,

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dude, I was. I was
getting so emotional with Kuma's backstory. I

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think it's one of the best,
and honestly, like, I feel like

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it's been a while since we actually
were there, so I kind of now

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I'm reading chapters and even thinking about
it. But yeah, at the time,

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I remember it was fucking heavy.
It was probably even better for me

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because I was reading them all at
once, like a in a big ball,

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from chapter to chapter. I could
only imagine reading that weekly that you

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guys were probably losing your minds.
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backstory starts off at his very birth. It's tragical because of his buccaneer heritage

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and his family being enslaved and his
parents being killed, and it just keeps

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getting more and more tragic. And
we finally get the explanation for why Kuma

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apparently volunteered to become on android passive
fee stuff for the World Government, which

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was I remember all the way back
in like Schibbaudi and stuff like that was

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like a big question. It's like, why is this former revolutionary who clearly

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helped the straw Hats, so he's
not a bad guy, Why did he

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agreed to become a murderous android for
the government, like the evil World Government,

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Like, why would he possibly agree
to something like that? And now

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we finally know, obviously he agreed
because after he managed to escape the God

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Valley. Oh yeah, chapter one
hunting tournament. He managed to escape,

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he also managed to save like five
hundred other people, and then him and

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Ginny and Ivankov joined the revolutionaries.
So for a while they were fighting against

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the World Government and they were back
on Sorbet Island, right, and then

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even even there, we saw like
a young Kuma willingly absorbing the pain and

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illness of other people with his double
fruit, like every week at his church

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sermon to help other people, even
though it was like destroying him physically because

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he has to take all on all
of that damage, you know, like

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remember nothing happened, Yeah, exactly, he was doing that every week,

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bro, And he was just doing
because he cared that much about the people

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of the Sorbet kingdom. So then
there were some things with like the king

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there and then Kuma overthrowing him because
he was in slaving people, and then

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him trying to come back and all
that type of stuff. But basically eventually

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Ginny wanted to marry him, and
he was like no, kind of that

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wasn't you know, he wasn't in
that headspace. He become a commander of

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the revolutionaries, and then she got
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forced to marry one of them,
had a baby. That baby was Bonnie,

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so we know where Bonnie came from. And Ginny died due to a

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rare illness, and but Bonnie was
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daughter. Yes, and what was
the illness cause it was like when they

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were in the light or moonlight and
any any type of light soft fire scales.

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I think it's called soft fire,
yes, and it's associated. I

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think it's a gemstone like associated with
uh, Saturn's planet or something. I

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think guess a post about that.
Oh yeah, So so the reason why,

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the reason why, Chad, thank
you, The reason why Uma didn't

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want to marry Ginny's because he knew
what happened to his parents. His mother

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was not a buccaneer, but she
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alone was reason enough, like enslaver, and she eventually died. So that's

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why he didn't want to put Jinny
through that. Uh, that did not

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work out, But yeah, dude, so much happened. Just going back

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to the God Valley arc, like
we ended off the last podcast with like

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the Celestial Dragons were putting on this
fucking like game where they're hunting humans and

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they're like rewarding points and the prizes
were devil fruits. By then, Ivankov

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and Kuma they were like they kind
of like fought back and and imagine to

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steal the fruits, and that's how
he got his what's that what's the fruit

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called, like pop off fruit or
something A point that's a good point.

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So they managed to steal those two
devil fruits, the horn mowned fruit and

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moncaws and uh kuma, and they
used the devil fruits to help them get

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off God Valley, but other fruits
were were not able to get some of

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the other fruits, such as Kaido's
fruit, which was taken by Big Mom.

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Mm hmm. Did you notice that? So we got so also at

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God Valleys ship is going down,
you got Rocks the Zebex or like Rock's

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crew there. So that includes like
white Beard and Kaido and Big Mom and

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also Big Mom's actually like hot oh
yeah. But then it's funny like Garp

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wasn't interested. You're like, oh, I'm gonna go there to help Celestial

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Dragon like not interested. Oh ship
Roger's gonna be there. I'm going like

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yeah. So so that's that's I
don't know, I remember now if I

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rant about this in a video or
on the last podcast, but so far

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from everything we've seen, Rocks and
Rocks should be considered a hero, not

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a villain. Yeah, because if
you know the way the world government stirs

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things, right, Yeah, if
you see what the fuck the world government

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was doing on God Valley, you
know, Zebec coming in there to disrupt

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it in any way is a good
act. And for Garb to be like,

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oh, I'm just having a vacation
where this shit is going on,

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and I know that they're you know, murdering hunting people for sport. Oh

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what Zebec and Roger are there?
Now I'm going to get involved, and

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you know, Roger getting involved against
Zebec. It's like, what the fuck?

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Bro Some pieces as Zebec is doing
the world a favor by attacking the

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Celestial Dragon. I agree, I
think them come on, I agree,

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But something is missing clearly because Rogers
Obviously Roger doesn't seem like the kind of

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guy that would have done that,
So there's something is missing. But yeah,

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perhaps they thought Rocks was such an
evil force that if he actually became

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king of the world it would be
a bigger problem. But that's hard to

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believe because of how big world government
is and what kind of problem they are.

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Yes, that's why, like,
I hope something big is missing.

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Otherwise, that seems like Roder and
Garb were doing the devil's work there.

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Yeah, I think the Marines,
even the good ones, always have to

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turn a blind eye to the celestial
dragons and the world government. Right,

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that's a common thing. That that's
why why, probably why Garp didn't want

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to go in the first place.
No, but he went. He didn't

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go in the first place to stop
what was happening there, but he went

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when Zebec tried to stop it.
Yeah, yeah, there is something missing,

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but Garb, for sure, he
is established as a guy who,

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although he doesn't want to follow orders
from the celestial Dragons, he doesn't go

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out of his way to stop them, right, which is why he's still

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a marine. So that's not that
surprising coming from Garp. He's not the

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hero that, at least so far
the Netflix adaptations making him seem like.

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But yeah, so that point,
I'm not yet satisfied with Garbs and Roger's

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role and involvement in the whole thing
and their motivations. But we'll see.

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Uh. Yeah, So we didn't
get the full flashback for God Valley.

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We got kind of like the setup
and what happened with specifically Kumaivan Kam and

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Ginny, but we didn't get the
whole why was Zebach there? Why was

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Roger there? We didn't get all
that, and we didn't get how did

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Shank send up in a treasure box? And she's like that, right,

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yeah, so old it will never
give it. Guess give us it all.

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It's so sad if I just want
it all. But they're like,

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yeah, they got the fruits.
They escaped, and it kind of flashed

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forwards to we have to get like
that part of Animax talking about though,

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we have to get why after right, Roger went, yeah, uh,

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back to the Genny backstory. So
we also learned that Ginny got her disease

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because Saturn, who is a scientist, was doing experiments on her. So

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because Saturn was experimenting on her,
both her Andani ended up getting the sapphire

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skills disease, although Bonnie's developed later
on, not right away when she was

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born. Bro that pissed me off
so much because like, and Odin knows

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what he's doing, but he made
it so that Okay, the reason that

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Kuma agreed to this was to say
Bonnie, and he made the deal with

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Saturn. But Saturn put Bonnie in
the situation the first place, so he

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had to make the deal in the
first place, all pure evil, bro,

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And I think Oda is setting it
up like really well for us really

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hating Saturn and really it's gonna be
really satisfying when Loufy shits on him.

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Yeah. So for all those people
who were saying like, oh, maybe

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the Gordo se are just like,
you know, pencil pushers, or maybe

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they're just like politicians are not fighters
and they're not actively evil, they're just

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kind of managing the go. Yeah, those guys are A definitely fighters and

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B they're definitely evil as far.
Yeah, I'll admit I wasn't sure myself

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in the beginning, like until obviously
we started seeing their power and them showing

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up to the battlefield. I also
wasn't sure that they're going to be like,

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you know, above admiral level and
the ship. It's absolutely crazy.

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They seem like they can't be injured
at this point. Yes, they have

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like like super a generation from from
MHA, you know, so one theory

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could be that, Yeah, so
they're not devil fruits in and of themselves,

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but they're granted those powers from Emu
and Emu's devil fruit, and then

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to stop them from regenerating, you
need to like kill Emu or something like

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that, but we'll see what happens. Yeah, there's also no theory that

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they are actual devils in human form
rather than humans who ate devil fruits.

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But because they're presumed to be immortal
and from the void century, something like

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that could be possible because we don't
know exactly what ancient kingdom and that technology.

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We don't know much about it because
it just not be human. They've

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been referring to everyone else's insects,
right, Yeah, and I mean they

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they all have those like really inhuman
beast forms that that kind of implied it

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could be something else. But another
thing though, the God Valley flashback totas

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is that Saturn look the exact same
way now he looks the exact same way

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now as he did almost forty years
ago during God Valley, which again kind

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of backs up that theory that they
could be either immortal or they age very

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slowly compared to the average person.
Yeah, I'd go for immortal for now,

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but we'll see. That's my theory
at least, But again, immortality

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can be seen in different ways.
It doesn't necessarily mean there's no way to

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kill them. It just means like, you know, they don't age and

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usual attacks. There has to be
like a secret way to kill them rather

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than they usually Yeah, I'm sure
there's a way to defeat them, but

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it could be like like you said, it could be you gotta get Emu

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first or something like that. Now
it's very I feel like plausible, although

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I would really like for Saturn to
get as just desserts at this point after

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everything in the backstory. But I
do think that the most plausible thing now

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is the escape, right, Yeah, I think so too. Yeah,

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rather than them just defeating five elders, Yeah, because it's not just Souturd

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anymore. It's all five go to
say, all of them with their insane,

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overpowered devil fruits. So at this
point it does seem like the goal

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will be to escape rather than defeat
them, which will kind of leave people

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thinking like, oh man, this
story isn't actually resolving itself as quickly as

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we hoped or as we thought it
would, with us saying this is the

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final saga and everything. However,
what could make up for that and make

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it more satisfying is if we actually
get to hear the Vega Punk world true

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or the world reveal, Because that
could reveal a lot, and now that

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robot waking up that could also reveal
a lot. But it's funny because a

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lot of people were pissed that there
was a timer that Vega Punk put on

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it like ten minutes, allowing the
world government to potentially stop the broadcast,

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and a lot of people were like
pissed about it, saying like, come

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on, old to stop fucking with
us, stop doing this. They not

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actually stopping now, you know,
because people want to know they've been waiting

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so long. That might be purposeful
though, in the sense that it does

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serve the purpose of buying time,
and in this case for Loofy, it

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does buy time. And it's hilarious
to like comedic elements we can't underestimate in

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one piece because a lot of it
is comedy, and just the fact that

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it's like, oh, I guess
we'll have an instant coffee, Like it's

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just hilarious. But I think at
some point the fandom has been teased for

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so long that like people are getting
on edge. I wonder, though,

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I wonder if if it bothers people
like significantly, or if they're just gonna

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be like, I'm more excited,
more excited. Oda knows how to tease

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me sort of thing, you know, I don't know. I do think

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the ten minutes is actually a good
idea. It creates so much tension and

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so much stakes and like gets us
on the edge of our seats and anticipation

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type of thing. If they were
to just give it to us, I

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don't think it would feel And again
there's the very real possibility. Yeah,

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go ahead, I'll just say,
like it creates like a reason for like

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the go say it to all show
up, and it creates a reason for

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like like it. Just like the
it forces the battle to happen or the

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escape to happen in like a time
a timely way, in a way I

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don't know. I escape, I
agree. I think that I think it's

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going to have that actual, like
real effect, the delay of being a

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distraction so that Loofy can escape.
Now, whether that was initially baked in

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or whether that was just a coincidence
and Vega Punk knew when he decided to

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die that that'll help Loofy, we
don't know. But I do think it'll

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have very real and necessary consequences.
Whether or not you like the idea that

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it's prolonged. We'll see, because
I'll agree with you that kid has definitely

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had a lot of tension and a
lot of like excitement and all this a

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lot of stuff happening at the same
time, but at the same time.

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If we get I was pissed auput
the Shanks situation. Okay, I was

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pissed that Shanks was right there.
He could easily went and met with Loufy

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and we will waiting for that since
the chapter one, and he did it.

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He was just like a big fuck
you in my opinion to the fans,

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like why you even have that scene
with Shanks there? Well, he

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flex on, he flexed on the
admiral, which was cool anyway, I

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complained about that before. And so
if we get another situation now where they

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the gor to say, managed to
stop the Vega Punk reveal just and the

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straw Heads get away, meaning that
we don't get the information and we don't

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get the Gorrose defeated, the straw
Hads get away, and so the gorst

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are still round, we don't get
the true history of the world. I

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will be pissed. Yeah, I
see how that could be annoying, but

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I also don't want them to rush
I feel like whatever Oda rushes something,

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I am so pissed off, Like
I don't need this series to end any

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time, one and one and eleven
chapter and it's they did the kid in

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law. Look at what they did
with the kid in law, Like it

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just the whatever. He rushed his
parts because he's like, oh, we

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need to get to the final arc, or like certain things are less important.

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It ruins my You're I even thought
that was sick Broid. Yeah,

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I did like kid, But at
the same time it breaks that rushing,

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so to speak, does very much
show the power of Shanks and hypes them

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up. Right, I beat Shanks
anyway? Of course I would rather,

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I'm saying, I would rather wait
and get slow reveals and get like actual

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satisfaction from from something versus oh,
like, obviously they can't defeat the gor,

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say now they have to escape.
It's too soon for the Gor say

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like, this is not the Gorse
versus straw Hats fight, clearly, right,

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But I do want through another ten
years then I'm okay with it.

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Make it twenty. No, yeah, I'm not in a rush at all

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to finish that up. And I
agree with Briggs as long as the eventual

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answers are satisfying. I don't care
how long the tease, so to speak,

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continues, as long as we get
a little bit by a little bit,

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as long as it's not like absolutely
no information being given. Yeah,

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I do see at an x frustration. It's just like I when I want

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to when it does happen, I
want it to be done well and not

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be like, oh, we have
to force it because we need. Yeah

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for people like that to just wait
until the series is over and watch one

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of my explained videos and that can
wrap it up. I want to know

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the history of the fucking Void Century. I've been waiting for so long.

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Well not as long as Briggs,
but because I caught up later, but

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I'm still go wait, what was
on? I do think now is a

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good time to reveal it, though, because we are getting to the final

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arcs. I think now revealing to
the world about the Void entry actually makes

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sense. Yeah, that's what I
mean, because and not only is there

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the big fight with the World government, there's also the Blackbeard stuff, which

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is separate exactly, so you know, Black real Well is also still there.

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The black Beard pirates showed out randomly, two of them, yes,

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and then he touched. She touched
Saturn's leg, I think, and she

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can. That's Katerina and she can
transform into someone she touches, right,

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Yeah, exactly, that's why she
did it. Yeah, got it.

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I was I was even acting chat. I'm like, what's her devil for?

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What's her ability? It has something
to do with the touch, I

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can't remember. Yeah, it's that
it's a nine tailed fox and one of

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its abilities is to transform clothing and
everything into the character. Yeah, so

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I wonder what she's planning to do
with that because in order, like,

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not many people know about Saturn and
his form and all that stuff outside,

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you know, the World government.
So is she going to try to infiltrate

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the World government using Saturn and do
like So, here's Blackbeard going after the

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World Government. That's what I'm thinking
now, because obviously we're all waiting for

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black Bear versus Loofy or black Beat
versus Shanks, But maybe we're gonna see

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black reversus the World Government. Zebec, who is is the Sandpi of black

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Beard, wanted to over throw the
World Government and become the king of the

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world. So that's also an angle. Yeah, I don't see Blackbeard personally

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at this point taking on in the
World Government, because he's usually one that

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would like wait until the opportunity is
perfect. But I do think this is

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a useful chess piece for him to
have, and that even if he doesn't

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take on the World Government right away, it's useful to have an inside person

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or be able to get inside difficult
places or you know. I do think

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this will come in handy whether or
not this is his time to attack the

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World Government. Yeah, And and
then I liked how the Eleventh Straw had

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Caribou pretended like he was gonna be
on the Blackbeard side, when in reality

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he's just gonna overthrow the dude,
so slimy. I don't trust him,

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bro, and neither should black Beard, because he's the seventh The eleventh Straw

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hat exactly about the king, remember
the king of that like really like whatever,

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like good shitty king who was burning
and killing half of the half of

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the island and then Kuma like smashed
him and overthrew him. And at first

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he was saving people and then ended
he ended up becoming like basically the king

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in name only. Yeah, that
pisses me off too, And I and

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get what Oda is doing, like
it is real world like injustices. But

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I can't believe he has to like
run because he killed such a corrupt dude,

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you know, or defeated such a
corrup dude, just because the corrupt

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dude was on this had the world
government backing him. Otherwise it was just

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a random king and then there was
a revolution. I feel like it wouldn't

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matter as much. But this guy
specifically had like ties to the I don't

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know if it was to the sleshi
Ol Dragons, I can't remember. Uh.

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Yeah, he was just being backed
by the world government. Yeah,

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he was their preferred ruler. Yeah. That infuriated me. It's like it's

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like nothing can go right for Kuma. That's and I mean that's part of

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the story and the tear jerker and
everything. But that's why Bonnie you better

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have like an exceptional ending, you
know. Yeah. Well we also learned

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Bonnie's true age, which is like
twelve or something. Yeah. Yeah,

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then there was that whole that Twitter
thing I heard about Twitter controversy. Yeah,

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we can't. We can no longer
ship Somji with Bonnie. Guys.

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I'm sorry. Sorry. Even if
physically she could transform into an eighty year

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old technically she has only been around
her mind has only been around for twelve

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years. I thought he was old. Leave it to animes that just create

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such a weird situation. Well,
that's the thing, because we meet her

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when she's like, looks twenty four
or something least I think that was the

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official kind of like eight. She
looks like, yeah, around twenty four.

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Yeah, obviously remember Blackbeard's comment,
Oh, yeah, exactly, you

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can join me if you want to
be my woman. Yeah she's twelve.

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It was yeah, before we knew
she was twelve. It was funny because

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he's like, you're not strong enough
to join my crew on that merit,

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but you could be one of my
u what of my harem? But yeah,

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now it looks worse. But black
Beer is not supposed to look like

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a good guy, so I guess
it doesn't really. I mean, it's

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just a Pirates anime canceled on Twitter. It's over for him. Yeah,

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yeah, what's it called big news
Morgans and to get him canceled? Yeah.

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Also, there was a beautiful scene
with with Kuma where like he finds

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out that he has to sacrifice his
humanity and he has to sacrifice his life

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and everything just to save Bonnie's cure
Bonnie's illness, and he was like so

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happy about It's like that's it,
that's all it'll take type of thing.

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Yeah, that's a beautiful moment.
It was like beautiful and sound at the

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same time, but very like bittersweet, where he's just like like, obviously

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he's he was like a major figure
for the revolutionaries, and he's extreme,

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extremely strong. He's a strong devil
fruit, so he would be a great

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asset in finding the World government.
But he gave it all up and to

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serve the world government in exchange for
Bonnie's life. And obviously Bonnie's not his

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biological daughter. He didn't even like
he could have been one of the like

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someone some other guy might have been
like, I don't care about this child

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that was forced upon the woman I
love, you know, but he like

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took her in as if she was
his own daughter, which is also incredible.

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Yeah, his whole character arc from
the beginning was sacrificing himself for others,

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and you brought that up when you
talked about him taking, uh,

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taking other people's pain in the church, and yeah, obviously this was the

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woman he loved the most, and
so this is her child, and it

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makes sense that he'd be willing to
sacrifice his life, which you know,

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to him is not that big of
a deal. Even on God Valley.

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He was willing to be the decoy. He's like, I'm sturdy, He'll

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be the deca way they'll attack me
while you guys do it. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's just an overall I
feel bad he took himself out of the

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gene pool because he's like, bro, I don't want I don't want to

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repeating the past situation. But but
Bonnie wanted him. Man, I don't

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know. Yeah, I guess that's
the thing, like he got he got

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to have a child without creating another
buccaneer. Yeah. Anyway, So so

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one thing I wanted to do.
I don't know if you guys want to

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talk more about the Kuma stuff.
Obviously there's a lot to talk about,

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but I didn't want to go back
to the Gorro Say. One thought I

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had while working on one of the
videos for the channel was do you guys

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think that Jupiter joined the Gorro Say
later than the others because he looks younger

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than the others, and I'm pretty
sure. At one point he also said

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during that whole reveal about the Nika
fruit. He was like surprised, He

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was like, why was the name
changed for the Nika fruit? And then

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the others were explaining it to him. So it's almost like that name change

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decision was made before he joined.
So do you think could he could have

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joined at a different time than the
other Gordos, meaning that he might not

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be from the void's entry? That
is very possible. That's interesting. Yeah,

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but he still has the same abilities
as these guys. Yeah, it

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could kind of allude to if he
was joining after can Imusama turn is is

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it maybe pointing towards Emusama turning these
guys and giving them these abilities like who

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he chooses? Yeah, Raf says
they were all around twenty three years ago.

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Yeah, I'm thinking like maybe he
joined two hundred years ago and the

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other guys joined eight hundred, like
you know, ye exactly, he's the

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new kid on the block, but
he's still hundreds of years Well, no,

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I think that's a fair fair assumption, and I didn't catch that or

404
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,880
think about it in that way.
But yeah, why would except to explain

405
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,319
to us, Like why would that
make sense in the story for them to

406
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:55,839
be explaining the Nika frut to someone. Yeah, I also want to say

407
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:04,920
that what's his name? Noos Trudo, Uh, the meanest guy, the

408
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,319
kind of samurai dude from the Godos. He has a sick devil fruit which

409
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:15,839
is like a horse skeleton, which
is a yokaia. That one is super

410
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,240
cool. But he has a hybrid
form which is like he's essentially a centaur

411
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,160
with the sword, so he's like
super fast using a katana. His upper

412
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,279
body is like his human body,
and then his lower body is the freaking

413
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:34,000
sick and then obviously has a full
horse mode and the human form. Also

414
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:37,920
loved the dune worm that was That
was dope. Yeah. Apparently when they

415
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,839
were someone, they all had numbers
one through four on them, and Saturn

416
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,640
had number five. That's interesting.
And which one were you thinking? Which

417
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,400
one were you thinking was the one
that joined later Jupiter because he's the one

418
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,319
that looks the youngest and the one
that didn't seem to know that, you

419
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,599
know, mean's name was changed.
That's interesting. So so yeah, we

420
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:06,200
have a comment here that introduced one
to five and Jupiter is number one.

421
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:11,640
Well, oh maybe they started with
five and work their way down. Yeah,

422
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:18,480
that's what I'm thinking that's interesting.
I think, Adam, that could

423
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:22,440
be onto something. Do you guys
understand Bonnie's fruit, it's not just I

424
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,920
think I do, yes, So
you could use distorted future, which again

425
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:33,079
I don't know how much is people
toying with her fruits a saturn toying with

426
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:37,039
the fruit, and how much is
like just the fruit itself. But yeah,

427
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:42,000
so there's distorted future, which literally
lets her create multiple futures and use

428
00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:45,839
the one she wants to at that
point. One of them was Nika future

429
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,880
and she we were just asked about
that in the comments, and could she

430
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:55,880
actually go Nika like loofy. Well, I think she could, But again,

431
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,839
it's not like unlimited power, because
we know hockey is such a huge

432
00:30:59,839 --> 00:31:02,720
thing in one piece. And even
if she could, like, let's say,

433
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:07,200
imitate a devil fruit, it doesn't
mean she's as powerful as that masterful

434
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,759
hockey user mm hmm. And it
just it's just a brief period. I

435
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,400
think she can. I do think
I do mind any of the fruit.

436
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,480
I think she would be able to. Fun fact, I think she used

437
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,559
gear third before Lufy ever used your
third. Yeah, exactly. I think

438
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:27,680
it's based off of potential, off
of the stories that she heard about Nika

439
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,359
and how he fought and stuff,
and so she applied that to her own.

440
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:36,920
Yes, I told her about about
Nica's rubbery abilities. One thing I

441
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:41,240
wonder though, just and this is
just like not super supportive and evidence or

442
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:48,480
anything. I'm just wondering, is
if Nika is special in the sense that

443
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:55,319
her able to mimic his powers might
be because he's Nika because of that whole

444
00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:01,000
like legend and the idea of the
Ka spreading joy and you know, like

445
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:07,759
I'm saying, like I wonder if
she can copy Nika's powers but not other

446
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:09,839
people's powers. Is because Nika is
special, because Nika is this legend that

447
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,440
has existed for so long and has
its own sort of power and it's a

448
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:17,759
god that because you know, Lufy
has the whole ability where he draws people

449
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:23,079
towards himself, right, He's always
had that, and Nica spreads joy and

450
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,920
it liberates people. So it's like
it's the power of Nika in some ways,

451
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,920
it's supposed to be spread among people. So I wonder if that's part

452
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,160
of the reason why Nika can be
copied or his powers can be copied by

453
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:43,119
Bonnie as opposed to like copying black
Beard's level fruit in a future where she

454
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:45,599
takes black Beard's level fruit. You
know what I mean. The only thing,

455
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:49,400
Yeah, well, I think Briggs
is gonna say the same thing.

456
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,039
The other thing I'm wondering is,
like what Briggs pointed out is that like

457
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,960
she used it before getting close to
Loufy and Saturn point the concept of it,

458
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,160
the concept of it, But Saturn
pointed out the more he learns of

459
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,400
the world, the less potential futures
she has. But you know why I

460
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,599
think that is I have a theory
on that. I don't think that that's

461
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:10,599
true. I think that's because he
assumes that the more you learn of the

462
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,680
world, the more limited your imagination
is and the more pessimistic you are.

463
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:21,359
And I think Loofy is a counterpoint
to that, where you can grow up

464
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,119
without giving up on your imagination and
giving up on your dreams. So I

465
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:30,200
think it's directly tied to your ability
to believe the impossible as possible, so

466
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:36,359
to speak, versus become aging,
like in your stereotypical way where it's like,

467
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:39,559
oh, you know, this is
life, it's miserable, blah blah

468
00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:43,720
blah. Yeah, I mean if
the world government and the Goro say an

469
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,240
Emo. If they really thought that, they wouldn't be so worried about hiding

470
00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:52,960
the truth about the world. They
wouldn't be so worried about O'Hara studying the

471
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:58,839
name of the ancient kingdom and shit
like that, right, Yeah, I

472
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,039
think yeah, It's part of the
reason that she couldn't use it well was

473
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:08,119
because she was devastated by figuring out
more about the truth of what happened,

474
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,599
and that crushed her spirit, so
to speak. But I think Lufy is

475
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,599
going to reverse that with his example. That's a that's a good theory.

476
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:21,159
That's a good theory. Also,
we got Dori and Broggy coming back,

477
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:28,760
Brogy and the Giant Pirates arriving to
save the day, which, honestly I

478
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,480
like that. I like that a
lot because A we get to see Dorian

479
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:37,119
brogiing in and it obviously connects to
all the way back to Little Garden and

480
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:43,199
all that stuff. And B they
had to come because like the straw Hats

481
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:50,559
could not handle the Gordos for even
two minutes without some major help. Live

482
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:55,320
Dori Say pulled up after Vega Punk
announced that in ten minutes his his broadcast

483
00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,519
was gonna go, so like Lucy
was able to hold back sadder an Anki

484
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:04,159
Zaru, which was blowing my mind. But once the other fourth bontuity,

485
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,199
he needed someone, yes, and
are fucking chat And the other thing to

486
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,960
keep in mind is that his time
limit, by all accounts, should be

487
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:15,760
running out right sooner than later.
So unless he gets some kind of stamina

488
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:21,039
boost because he's used the power for
multiple times and for a while, like,

489
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:23,760
this situation does not look good.
They got to escape soon. Yeah,

490
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,119
so either someone like the Giants or
like the Red Hair Bard, someone

491
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:30,760
had to come to back them up, because otherwise they would have been I'm

492
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,679
disappointed by Dragon, like he's probably
doing something important or he trusted that.

493
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,639
I'm just yeah, I'm disappointed because
like Kuma was his bro, like arguably

494
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:47,000
best friend. Then you have Loofy, who's his son, Bonnie there,

495
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:51,920
who's obviously important to Kuma and and
you know, obviously as a result,

496
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,360
should be important to Dragon. And
I feel like this would have been the

497
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,320
perfect time to get revenge for Jenny
and everything. I think this would have

498
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,519
been the perfect time to just you
know, show up and help. But

499
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,480
hopefully he's doing something important and hopefully
he just assumed that maybe he got worried

500
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:08,440
that the giants are coming and he
thinks Sloofy can handle it. I don't

501
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:14,719
know. Yeah, so the on
Twitter Dragon has become a huge meme in

502
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,480
the sense that he never shows up
and he's never where he should be,

503
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:21,239
and he's We're always thinking he's doing
something important, but he never seems to

504
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,519
be doing shit. Yeah, imagine, Yeah, he just pissed out Sabo

505
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:29,679
for false information. Do you think
he could still be trying to show up

506
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,800
because we know he was talking with
ivan Kov, like, where do you

507
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,320
think he would go? And if
jon Klas was like that with him,

508
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,119
I would storm the Mary Joa And
he's like, I think he would go

509
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,920
somewhere else, and I think that's
the last we heard of him, So

510
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:45,719
after that, he could technically be
heading here as well. Right, Yeah,

511
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,559
I'm just trying to figure out how
the time stuff works. I guess

512
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:51,280
we don't have to get too bogged
down by that because of conversation we saw

513
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,400
a few chapters ago could technically be
like a longer time ago, but we

514
00:36:54,519 --> 00:37:00,239
saw them like talking Sabo and Ivonkov
and Dragon together, So I just don't

515
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,039
know. If they're anywhere close at
this point, or if that conversation happened

516
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:12,280
like minutes ago, you know that's
true. Yeah, so I'm definitely looking

517
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,079
forward to seeing what happens after Agad. I also, if I find it

518
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:22,440
impossible for all five to be defeated, unless you know, the Revolutionaries showed

519
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:29,800
up to out of nowhere or Red
Hair Pirates are both are not being defeated

520
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,159
on this hour, I'd be crazy. I agree. I think I'd actually

521
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:38,599
be upset then promise I can to
show up on a kid in the first

522
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:42,800
place, all of them, so, you know, woulda could surprise us.

523
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,719
But I do think that probably we're
gonna have. You know, maybe

524
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,920
Saturn defeated because of the whole Katerina
Devin thing of her trying to copy him.

525
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,159
So maybe one of them defeated like
Saturn, and then the Straw has

526
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:02,239
escaped and they go to Elbath,
And yeah, that would be very convenient

527
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,320
for Blackbeard, because all of a
sudden, the one he copied is defeated,

528
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,480
and then he can just come back
like you, I wasn't defeated,

529
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:13,000
bro come on, but and I
would yeah, go ahead. I wonder

530
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:15,800
if Olda is saving Dragon and the
Revolutionaries for like the final showdown when the

531
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,599
straw Hat Fleet meets up with them
and they all like attack Marie together.

532
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,280
He better be saying them for something, bro. Yeah, I know,

533
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:30,280
I feel like there's gonna be a
war, and I don't think the Revolutions

534
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,840
are going to do it. I
think they're gonna go and take down Mary

535
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,320
Joe, and like, I don't
know the Holy Nights are. They're only

536
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:43,320
really difficult opponents, which I feel
like would be underwhelming for the Revolutionaries.

537
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:50,159
But was there too. It's true, Yeah, it's it's weird because I

538
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,679
wonder if it's going to be like
a war where Loofy has an opponent and

539
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,840
then like some of the bigger opponents
get taken off by taken on by allies.

540
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,480
But part of me like, based
on the way the story goes,

541
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:07,599
part of me imagines Loofy beating both
Blackbeard and both Emu at some point.

542
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,960
Not at the same time, obviously, but I guess someone could potentially take

543
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:17,480
on Emu that's not Loofy. I
wonder now if news Juda could actually be

544
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:21,199
the strongest swordsman in the world.
We just don't know it because he never

545
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,159
fights well I definitely, yeah,
go ahead. Obviously, Mihawk is known

546
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:29,400
as the girl's greatest story swordsman,
and that's Soro's goal is to defeat Mihawk.

547
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:31,199
But Mihawk is not going to be
a bad guy. He's not gonna

548
00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:35,719
fight Zora to the death. So
I wonder if actually news Judau might turn

549
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,280
out to be. I think Mihawk
is better, and I think Zora will

550
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,719
have to defeat him, uh the
Elder before he takes on Mihawk again for

551
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,440
his rematch. Yeah, because like
he can do the he can do the

552
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:52,960
whole worse form and still have his
sword in the hybrid form, So being

553
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,239
incredibly fast and a swordsman like that's
huge. But just because of the way

554
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,920
that Mihawk was hyped up the whole
series, there there's no way I see

555
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:05,440
uh, this guy being stronger than
him and being Zorro's final opponent that I

556
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,480
don't see that happen. So you
don't think me Hawk is you think Mihawk

557
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:12,760
is stronger than a Gordo s Yeah, for sure, knowing what we know

558
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,440
now, Yeah for sure. In
my opinion, it's it's really tough to

559
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,800
because I don't think the god like
the world's Strongest Swordsman title very literally,

560
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,679
like we think, oh, he
has to be like like anyone who has

561
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,679
a sword, he has to be
stronger than But it's a tough call because

562
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:31,760
there's so much more that applies,
like maybe he's the most skilled swordsman,

563
00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:38,119
but then there's also like hockey and
devil fruits and like it's it's really it's

564
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:42,800
a really tough to say. Yeah. So although God says are strong,

565
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:46,199
I don't think they're I don't think
like they're like yo, Like, Okay,

566
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,280
they can be above let's say,
admiral level, but I don't think

567
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,239
that that means they're above like Shank's
level or Mihawk level. Necessarily. I

568
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,119
think they have to be like Yanko
level. But again, Yank was such

569
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:01,519
a stretch because you have Shanks who
was way, way, way, way

570
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:06,000
way stronger than Big Mom. So
it's like, sure they could be like

571
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,320
Big Mom, but it doesn't mean
that they can deal with Shanks or me.

572
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,360
Still, five five big Moms is
terrifying. I think there are at

573
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:23,039
least Buggy level. Don't go crazy, dude, it's so crazy because we

574
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:27,320
have five. You got Emma and
you got black Beard, and I have

575
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,360
no clue who's going to fight who, like, and black Beard has to

576
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,719
fight Lufy at some point that that's
just been established. Yeah, it's just

577
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,679
a question of whether Lufy is also
going to fight Emu before or after.

578
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:40,920
Yeah, but it's interesting. I
feel like he has to fight Emu and

579
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,159
black Beard, and then the Say
and the Holy Knights can be like less

580
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:52,400
and straw Hack Crew and the Less
Animak is right and Blackbeard takes down Emu

581
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,039
and then obviously in that way,
Lufy would be like fighting black Beard and

582
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:59,719
Emo at the same time. Oh, that's that's a that's a very interesting

583
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,480
theory. I like that. Yeah, I wouldn't be against that. That

584
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:05,800
would be a way for order to
finish quicker if you wanted to. Speaking

585
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,519
of the Straw Hat Crew, we
had some cool moments we had. We

586
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:15,000
had Sanji save it was he saved
Kuma and Bonnie from Saturn, and then

587
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:20,880
I think he saved him again or
he saved doctor Vegabunk from Kizaru to hype

588
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:27,920
Sanji moments. And then we had
Zoro versus Lucci, and Zoro like basically

589
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,039
cut down Lucci but he was still
standing, and then Jim Bay comes along

590
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,800
and it's like, punches him with
some fish karate thing. We gotta go,

591
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:40,000
we gotta go. And then people
were like, clearly Jim bays no,

592
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:45,920
but Zoro definitely deserved that. W
So yeah, I'm I'm happy about

593
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,519
that. If anything, I would
have liked to see like him finish him

594
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:53,400
quicker. But I mean, Lucci
Oda respects Lucci and he's made that clear.

595
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:57,679
Yeah, it's drewe. I don't
personally think Lucci is an you know,

596
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,519
endgame villain, but would have clearly
want him to stay relevant or at

597
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:07,360
least to pay homage to the character
and pay respect to the character. Yeah,

598
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:15,599
do you think I think do we
think Lucci is Sanji level? Sanji

599
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,280
is such a such a weird thing
right now because of his awakening, Like

600
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:23,920
I feel like he's a wild card
so to so to speak. Yeah,

601
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:31,079
that's tough because I don't think we've
seen like his full power since his awakening.

602
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:36,159
Yeah, he hasn't been kind of
driven to near death or anything.

603
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:37,239
Right, he hasn't been driven to
to bring Yeah, he hasn't had one

604
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:43,400
of those epic fights since his awakening. Like he shitted on Queen. It

605
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:50,960
wasn't even close like he like he's
imagining like someone I don't know. Let's

606
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,039
say on one of the Blackbeard pirates
is about to kill Nami or something,

607
00:43:55,039 --> 00:44:01,960
and then we see like Sonji's true
like Super Sam four awakening, you know,

608
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:06,360
yeah, I do. I do
think that's a cool idea, and

609
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,239
I think that that would be a
cool trigger for him because you know,

610
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:15,639
Goku got triggered by Krillin and I
feel like Nami and Sanji come on,

611
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:20,400
that would work well for me.
Yeah, or like they actually killed Pudding

612
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:25,320
or something, Yeah, yeah,
kill it yo Yo killing like a chick

613
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:31,239
he's he's loved or you know,
had his moments with I feel like would

614
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:37,679
create the craziest moment where they were
like walking towards our long park, our

615
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,159
long park on steroids for Sandre like
it would be Yeah, because the whole

616
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:44,679
Pudding thing, I feel like ended
without a resolution. I think there's gonna

617
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,440
be more to that. I don't
and I don't. I want to be

618
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:52,639
clear. I don't think Sandi beats
Zoro, but I just think that Sanji

619
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:59,360
is a wild card and I wouldn't
I wouldn't limit his power against like opponents

620
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:02,880
till we see him go full out. Yeah, I think NJ will be

621
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,599
closer than we think, but I
do think they're all a little bit stronger.

622
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,280
Yeah, and I think would I
likes to stir a pod by kind

623
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,039
of having all the especially the Big
Three, but old the straw Heads,

624
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:21,559
kind of like defying expectations. H
I think. So I wouldn't say Sonja

625
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:24,559
can't beat Luci right now, but
I obviously Zorro can beat him, and

626
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:32,480
he didn't like struggle struggle against him. Sure that's fair, that's fair.

627
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:40,119
Anything else we want to cover,
hm, hmmm, a lot. There's

628
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:43,639
all the little stuff, but I
don't think that like we would be here

629
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:47,239
all day if we were covering all
the little stuff. Yeah. One of

630
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,000
the things is to me is just
like the time limit bro. Like again,

631
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:59,599
obviously Lufy can stretch time in a
way where he's like one chapter could

632
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,320
be like two seconds in the real
world, you know, So it doesn't

633
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,599
necessarily mean that he's been gearfied for
a lot of chapters. They can't keep

634
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:12,599
it up, But it seems like
Oda's regularly emphasizing his lack of ability to

635
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:16,079
maintain this form. So I feel
like times running out, and yeah,

636
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,800
sooner or later, they're gonna have
to escape, all right. A couple

637
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,079
of things we forgot to mention.
One, Bonnie got to see all of

638
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:30,199
Kuma's memories, so she knows that
he was sending letters. Why he oh

639
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,599
yeah, yeah, Like why he
ended up like siding with the World government

640
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,159
and the Marines and stuff, and
then like why he wasn't like with the

641
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:42,239
revolutionaries, why he didn't come back
like he he got the She got to

642
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,239
see everything, even his past with
like his dad and mother dying and everything

643
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:51,599
about him being a buccaneer, like
he learned everything. But what's called Mega

644
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:57,400
Punk was very touched by their relationship
and like how to really liked Kuma,

645
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:04,039
and he put a claw where he's
just like he couldn't have it in his

646
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:06,679
heart where he's like he would be
able to sacrifice all these things for the

647
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,840
World government, but in his heart
he's like, I can't let this loving

648
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:15,920
father who would sacrifice his life and
everything for his daughter, who I'm turning

649
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,880
into These pacifist does are basically like
I can't have those pacififices that look like

650
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,400
Kuma attack Bonnie. That's the one
thing that's gonna go above up all the

651
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:28,000
rankings like he always bring things like
by hierarchy, who would have the control

652
00:47:28,039 --> 00:47:30,719
of the pacifist does The one above
all was they would not attack Bonnie.

653
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:36,400
And in that moment they turn around
and like the buster call is happening,

654
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,679
which it is also destroy the entire
island the buster calls literally using Pacifistas,

655
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,239
Pacifists turn around and just destroy a
bunch of ships and marines. That it

656
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,679
was a great moment. Yeah,
because like the gor were supposed to have

657
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,079
like the highest authority over the Pistas, but it turned out that Bonnie actually

658
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:53,920
did and not. And we also
now know why they're called pacifistas, which

659
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:59,599
was always a weird name for war
machines. But it's because in his heart,

660
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,880
I always wanted to be a pacifist, but he just never could because

661
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,880
of how he kept being attacked for
his race and for all these other things.

662
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,360
But yes, now we know why
they're called. Yeah, it's also

663
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:15,119
works for like an Orwellian pieces war
sort of situation war's peace. But yeah,

664
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:20,760
I think that people there they're they're
not. You can say someone's a

665
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,039
pacifist, you could say someone's pacifying
someone else with weapons. Yeah, but

666
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,880
I will say that it's a little
detail, but it pissed me off so

667
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:31,000
much. They they weren't giving those
letters to Bonnie. Man, Oh,

668
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:34,960
I know. And then she was
like, why isn't my dad writing me

669
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:37,920
letters? He said he wouldn't.
They weren't giving her the fucking letters.

670
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:44,679
You the bitches little but Oda knows
what what will pull out our heartstrings,

671
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:50,079
man, And that injustice just pisses
us off to no end. And obviously

672
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:55,400
it's so satisfying when Bonnie uses a
thestory Future Nika to destroy Alpha like that

673
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,559
was so satisfying. Oh yeah,
I'm happy she got to see all the

674
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:04,000
letters in Yes, the truth,
dude, the truth. Yeah, I

675
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:06,559
was so happy when she got that. You know why she was crying so

676
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,239
much when she had learned the memory
stuff? Yeah, exactly, No,

677
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:15,760
it completely makes sense. And I
think Vega Punk was honestly amazing. We

678
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,440
didn't really point out that, but
you know, I think he was a

679
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:25,360
really good character. He showed that
he will prioritize doing what's right at the

680
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,280
end of the day towards to his
own life. And obviously there's a question

681
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:35,719
of is he fully dead if like
his his clones are still alive. But

682
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,119
there is that fact that. You
know, he could have just done been

683
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:45,639
a moral got unlimited money, kept
helping the government, but he turned against

684
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,719
them. And even when Saturn was
like, yo, I'm a scientist too,

685
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:55,440
I'll know if you if you change
anything, he still was arrogant enough

686
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:59,440
to be like, oh yeah,
yeah, okay, and still change it

687
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,199
without the guy noticing, which is
just skill issue. Bro. Yeah.

688
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,400
So I thought Vega Punk was just
a very good character, a very good

689
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:15,079
example of, you know, how
people should be, and that Yeah,

690
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:16,440
you didn't expect that when we heard
about him. You know, he was

691
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,599
talked about in these dark terms as
like this amoral, crazy scientist, but

692
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,960
he turned out to be a really
good guy. I also want to add

693
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,559
that, like I have, I
have had some complaints with One Piece over

694
00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:32,159
like the last couple of years.
I love One Piece. It's my favorite

695
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:35,920
long of all time, and I
think it is amazing, but towards the

696
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:38,800
end I've had some I've had some
complaints. I think Egghead as a whole,

697
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,039
and obviously it's not done yet.
We need to see what they end

698
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:45,639
up doing with this escape and the
whole warning to the world or message to

699
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:50,079
the world. I think Egghead has
been a top tier arc with amazing writing

700
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:53,679
from Oda, both between Khuma's back
stories, the hype fight itself, and

701
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:59,320
all the reveals. It's been so
great. Yeah, I think it goes

702
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,000
In has a good point about whether
you know, is Vega Punk dead It

703
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:02,960
seems to he seems to be,
but he could also be like, oh,

704
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,800
I had another clone who is now
will take over. Yeah, and

705
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,039
he's the other Death Punk robot,
you know, something like that. I

706
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:13,800
think he is dead, but I
think his knowledge lives on, and I

707
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,239
think that's sort of what's going to
happen with the clones, because it would,

708
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,679
I think, ruin the emotional and
dramatic aspect to it if he that

709
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,639
version of him was alive. But
in a way we have the information Megapunk

710
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,079
has and the knowledge through the other
clones, so it's not like that knowledge

711
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:35,679
is lost to the world, I
think. Butsanji's running away with his body

712
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,440
right now and he's bleeding out.
We don't know that he's one hundred percent

713
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:43,039
dead, right I think I think
that's what activated he seems to because the

714
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,320
thing was triggered by his death.
Apparently, No, but that's what the

715
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,840
Gorse assumed. We don't know that
to be a fact. Yeah, exactly,

716
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,920
Like so it's it's been implied,
but we can't know for a fact.

717
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,960
And he could also like put just
put his brain into some thumb pre

718
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:59,320
made android or something like. You
don't know. With Vega, I will

719
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:06,320
say that he is a questionable character
in terms of morality because in some ways

720
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,440
it seems throughout the story that he
is willing to support the World Government in

721
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:15,599
doing horrible things and helping them in
exchange for the ability to do all these

722
00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:19,159
fancy experiments and all these different things. Now, of course he has certain

723
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,719
limits, like the whole body thing
that he wasn't willing to do, but

724
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:27,000
overall, you know, he does
do a lot of horrible things for the

725
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:30,719
World Government in exchange for resources and
the ability to pursue knowledge. Now,

726
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:37,599
now that he's revealing the history of
the world, apparently that could kind of

727
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,840
explain things more because it could be
that Vegapunk felt that the only way to

728
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,280
really bring the World Government down is
to infiltrate them and then learn the truth

729
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,960
and then reveal the truth. So
kind of like the ends justify the means

730
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:54,840
thing where he will use the resources
and stuff that they gave him to learn

731
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,760
the real truth to develop a plant
to take them down, and then eventually

732
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:02,280
make it possible for them to be
brought down. So that might have been

733
00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:07,280
kind of his logic for helping the
World Government while also working behind their backs.

734
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:12,480
Yeah, he's not a good That
could be his real motivation rather than

735
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,400
just he wanted science and knowledge.
You know, he wanted to pursue knowledge

736
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:19,480
by any means necessary, and even
if that means supporting the killing of people

737
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:22,039
through the World Government. He who
cares because I'm getting the money. I

738
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:24,519
think it might might be more than
that. But will well, a lot

739
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:28,519
of people depend on what he says
in that address if we get to hear

740
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:30,840
it, which I hope we will
because it's such a fucking Chekhov's gun come

741
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,239
on or whatever. He's not a
Couma, I will say, he's not

742
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:37,199
a kuma, but I do think
that, you know, he definitely leans

743
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,719
towards like doing the right thing in
the end. And another way to explain

744
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,000
it is he was doing research using
the government money, and who knows that

745
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,280
that research might have might help drag
in his friend in the end or someone

746
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,639
else. You don't know what he's
gonna do. It's not his fault that

747
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:58,039
York went behind his back and like
gave the mother flame to the government.

748
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:02,800
Right. Oh, someone in chat
that Blackbeard has pudding, so we'll probably

749
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:09,440
see that putting Saundry's thing. Yeah, yeah, even knowing she's kidnapped could

750
00:54:09,639 --> 00:54:15,880
activate that with him. Sorry,
I'm distracted by chat. There no chats

751
00:54:15,079 --> 00:54:19,719
bringing up some good points for sure. I mean anything else you guys want

752
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,559
to cover. Overall, egg has
been fantastic. I can't wait. Yeah,

753
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:25,920
I think it's been great. Obviously, A lot of it depends,

754
00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:29,960
I guess for me, A lot
of will depend on how whether we get

755
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:34,280
a satisfying reveal or whether Oda cock
blocks us again and blue balls us,

756
00:54:34,679 --> 00:54:38,840
because I do think he blue balled
us with Shanks, so hopefully we get

757
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,840
we don't get that again, because
yeah, this is the final saga,

758
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,320
Like at some point this thing has
to end. So we did get a

759
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:52,639
lot of reveals during Egghead, I
grant that, but now that you know

760
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:54,960
I would have pulled, the history
of the world will be revealed card.

761
00:54:55,039 --> 00:55:00,840
I hope that we do get something. Who fed loofy Oh, we don't

762
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:07,920
know any any new thoughts on that
based on the chapters that happen. So

763
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:14,239
yeah, that's that's the thing I
want to bring up is just his his

764
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,119
I'm not sad his character in this
arc so far, like the direction.

765
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,000
We'll see if we get more,
but I feel like we should because he's

766
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:25,800
been a focal point. ODA is
giving him some emphasis. Uh, it's

767
00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:30,960
hard for him to attack his friends. He attacked Bonnie, he's being called

768
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:37,000
out by uh Vega Punk, and
we just haven't seen a strong motivation for

769
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:40,960
him to just follow orders like a
government dog. So yeah, I want

770
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,800
to see more. You can see
by behavior that he regrets having to do

771
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,760
these things, but he seems to
in the end always do them, so

772
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,519
I want to know why. He
also nearly kills Megap himself. So yeah,

773
00:55:53,639 --> 00:55:58,159
let's see. Let's see what happens
there. Yeah, because I'm call

774
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,079
it that be I'm calling it that
who got the food first? Well,

775
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:05,199
like to be fair, a lot
of people did call it. But but

776
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,960
yeah, we'll see because he's he's
obviously quick, right, yeah, exactly,

777
00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:12,440
So no one saw, no one
knew where it came from, and

778
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:15,440
no one was able to move at
the time. Yeah, yeah, no,

779
00:56:15,519 --> 00:56:19,880
A lot of people think it's keys
little but then he goes on to

780
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,840
try to kill Vega Punk and it's
like, has this a pre arranged thing

781
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,280
with Mega Punk? Like is he
trying to make it seem like that way

782
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,559
for some reason? I want to
hold onto Straws, but I just don't

783
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:35,320
know. Like currently, he got
knocked down by Loofy and he's like,

784
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,719
I'm injured type of thing. Yeah, like you're an ad well dude,

785
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,599
Like obviously Lufy is really strong,
but you could get up. I think

786
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:45,400
was like what a bitch? I
think was full of shit right now?

787
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,840
No, I hope so. I
hope so because definitely, uh, if

788
00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:54,760
we get don't get his backstory explaining
why he just keeps doing this horrible stuff

789
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:59,960
even though it bothers him, And
if he doesn't change one of those two,

790
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:04,239
then I think Kle was a miss
this this arc. I think Oda

791
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,159
didn't do right by him. It
might not we might not get the backstory

792
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,639
and the feeling now, but it
might happen. Yeah, as long as

793
00:57:12,679 --> 00:57:15,320
we eventually get it. But it
has been emphasized this arc. So I

794
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:20,280
hope we get it this arc.
Yeah, there's a lot to be done.

795
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,480
I feel like there's always like with
everything that what it does It's like

796
00:57:23,679 --> 00:57:29,360
we need ten more fucking backstories.
We need ten more reveals a backstory and

797
00:57:29,519 --> 00:57:31,039
answered three more questions. Its like
I need a backstory of that guy in

798
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:37,599
that guy's backstory. Yeah. As
much as I sometimes complain about Oda teasing

799
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:39,880
us and then not like giving us
the answers, at least it's not fucking

800
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,920
Georgia R. R. Martin,
No exactly. Yeah, he doesn't take

801
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,159
those long breaks three weeks. We
could live with that. Yes. Did

802
00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:53,119
you guys notice that there was one
chapter that wasn't fully like properly colored or

803
00:57:53,159 --> 00:57:57,239
probably Yeah? I remember that.
Yeah, yeah, it was fixed later

804
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,880
on. Yeah, not on VIZ. I always eating on VIZ today and

805
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:07,159
it was still all it'll be fixed
for the volume for sure, But yeah,

806
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:13,199
no, I mean that was interesting
just because Oda seemed superhuman for so

807
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,079
long, like being able to get
everything out perfectly. So I do think

808
00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:22,360
that that's not shocking considering like how
much he's done for how long. But

809
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,880
it was crazy to see that for
the first time because I, as far

810
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,119
as I know, that's never happened
before. Mm hmmm. Yeah, So

811
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:36,000
like what I was kind of like
totail on the weekly thing should can happen.

812
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:37,840
I think it was. Yeah,
I think they didn't have the time

813
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:44,320
to do it properly then, But
that's just an answer that they gave.

814
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,119
We don't really know the truth.
Yeah, who knows. There can always

815
00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:52,440
be like family emergency, there could
be something exactly exactly. At least we're

816
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,559
not getting too gushy chapters. Yeah. I mean, at the end of

817
00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:59,480
the day, Oda is the goat. Yeah, And I want to say,

818
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:01,719
like anim as like how long you
know, and not even that Animac

819
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:06,079
wants it to finish, but he
kind of like brought up that idea or

820
00:59:06,119 --> 00:59:10,840
that argument. But dude, this
is ongoing already the best selling manga of

821
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,840
all time, Like why stop?
You know what I mean? I mean,

822
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,480
I don't want it to go forever. I don't want I don't want

823
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,880
to go forever. I don't want
it to become a simile point at some

824
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,519
point if you're driving it out on
purpose because it's selling well, then And

825
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:29,760
I don't think Oda will because he
always underestimates how long it'll take, and

826
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,960
then as he's writing it ends up
being longer. There's more he ends up

827
00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:37,960
needing to tell. So I don't
think any part of Oda is like I'm

828
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:40,679
dragging this out for money. I'm
driving this out for showing and jump because

829
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:45,280
they're pressuring me. I think it's
all about him trying to finish it to

830
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:50,760
the best visibility and then thinking it'll
be over sooner, but then the story

831
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,880
just takes him to another place,
you know. Yeah, And I would

832
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:59,320
rather it take multiple more years and
like we get the proper backstories and answers

833
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,800
to the mystery rather than just like, oh, it's a war after this.

834
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:07,400
Yeah, I want the ending.
ODA wants that. That's what I

835
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:12,239
want, And if it's longer or
shorter, I'll accept it. But if

836
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,039
it's longer, I'm not complaining.
If it's dragged out, I'm not complaining.

837
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,639
I'm sure. Tweeted like I don't
want five years battles. I don't

838
01:00:17,639 --> 01:00:22,119
want important battles to be off screen. Yeah. Same, I don't want

839
01:00:22,159 --> 01:00:28,320
anything to be off screened. I
want all the things I think I called

840
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:30,639
like four years ago, five years
ago. Now, I tweeted that one

841
01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:35,119
piece will finish in twenty twenty seven
save this tweet, and I can't find

842
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:37,119
the tweet, But twenty twenty seven, I believe it's my call or twenty

843
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:42,559
twenty eight. I can't remember,
yeah, honestly seven. It is hard

844
01:00:42,639 --> 01:00:46,840
to do now. But in Oda
saying twenty twenty five, is he still

845
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,639
saying that or did he just say
that years ago? I don't know where

846
01:00:51,639 --> 01:00:54,679
you can even because he said five
years ago in five years at one point.

847
01:00:54,760 --> 01:01:00,119
But I feel like he always makes
those guesses and he always proves himself

848
01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:04,719
wrong. Like even he was explaining
that he was thinking of a way of

849
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,360
not going to l Bath, but
then he ended up deciding to go there

850
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:12,360
anyways, So he had a potential
ending that didn't feature l Bath, but

851
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:16,199
then he decides to go there.
Yeah, we're not going to Albaf so

852
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:22,199
no, exactly. He technically could
have avoided it, like by having all

853
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:27,119
the like the what they call the
giants, meet them on egg Ed and

854
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:29,800
then meet them on the next island, but just makes sense for the next

855
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,719
island to be Elbath exactly. So, And and the fact that he went,

856
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,719
Okay, whatever, let's go to
Albath anyways the characters want to go

857
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:43,559
there. I think that that shows
he's not committed to ending when he said

858
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:45,159
he then did it at all costs. He's committed to the story. The

859
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:50,079
characters and where they take him.
See. I want to go back and

860
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,760
rewatch Little Garden now, just to
see the fight between Dory and Broggy,

861
01:01:53,679 --> 01:01:59,079
because one thing we didn't talk about
in this is that Dory and Broggy have

862
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:07,239
like memories of or like they passed
down knowledge, similar to the Kuma's ancestors.

863
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,280
Yeah. Yeah. The giants also, like the Buccaneers, have knowledge

864
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:14,599
about Nika about Nika as well,
and they have like sun based attacks in

865
01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:19,039
blocks and stuff. Yeah, and
like Sun's sun shield and ship. So

866
01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:24,960
so yeah, Nika is a clearly
an important facet in like Vike in the

867
01:02:25,079 --> 01:02:30,280
Viking elbap history as well, which
is why I think Albaf will be a

868
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:35,119
good place to go to for more
reveals about the ancient kingdoms. Yeah,

869
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:37,239
I gotta ask you guys, make
sense. I gotta ask you guys something.

870
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:42,079
So it's been brought up in the
one Piece community. Also the fact

871
01:02:42,119 --> 01:02:50,239
that it seems like the Giants are
way stronger than they were on the previous

872
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,960
time, Like Lufy met them right
when they were dueling on what was the

873
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:58,559
island's name, Little Garden. Yeah, so what do you guys think about

874
01:02:58,599 --> 01:03:01,599
that? Do you think like they
were just tired, they weren't working together.

875
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:05,079
How strong they were, Like,
I don't know how to power scale

876
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:07,559
that shit. Yeah, because that's
something like they were sort of you know,

877
01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:14,159
defeated with wax to an extent,
and then now they're like blocking attacks

878
01:03:14,239 --> 01:03:17,239
from Goto. Say, well,
they had weakened each other exactly, fighting,

879
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,239
Yeah, constantly over the course of
how many years, But they had

880
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,559
weaken each other prior to the Little
Guarden, that would be my explanation.

881
01:03:24,159 --> 01:03:29,159
And even in the end, their
tacks were strong enough to like part the

882
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:34,800
water and cut a fish, a
fish in half from a distance like that

883
01:03:35,079 --> 01:03:37,719
is way stronger than Lufy's gorol and
like the straw hats at that time.

884
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:43,679
Yeah, so like the goro was
not capable of doing that at Little Garden.

885
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,679
I concur and I think part of
it is the fact that you have

886
01:03:47,079 --> 01:03:52,079
them working against each other, tiring
themselves out, versus when they work together,

887
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:55,039
it's a whole different can of worms. It's more than like the sum

888
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:59,519
of its parts. And yeah,
that was a glimpse, like you said,

889
01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:03,920
when they defeated the big fish,
them working together rather than against each

890
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:08,639
other. And we saw that again
when they took down kids entire crew except

891
01:04:08,719 --> 01:04:12,679
Kid, which was hilarious. And
then, uh, now what they go

892
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:17,679
to say, like, I feel
like the feet that they pulled at the

893
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:23,639
end of Little Garden matches more similarly
to like what Zoro did after the time

894
01:04:23,719 --> 01:04:28,920
skip mm hmm. Yeah, No, that's just something I saw brought up

895
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,840
in the community. So I just
wanted to see how you guys looked at

896
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:40,039
him. I would love to go
back and rewatch the art you there.

897
01:04:40,119 --> 01:04:43,920
I think, I think, I
think that's been a good podcast. I'm

898
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:49,400
here. Yeah, I think a
lot of interesting and exciting stuff is happening

899
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,840
now. I'm really interested about to
see about Emu and Emu's Devil Fruit and

900
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,880
the connection to the Gorse devil Fruit
or powers and why like the portals,

901
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,159
for example, those dark Magic portals, they seem way more open than anything

902
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:05,280
else we've seen in One Piece,
because you know, the whole thing about

903
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,559
One Piece is you have to sail
the whole world and the Grand Line,

904
01:05:09,559 --> 01:05:12,440
and it's a treacherous journey. And
these guys just teleport across the world in

905
01:05:12,519 --> 01:05:17,039
seconds. That's not just like something
to overlook. Yeah, because Van auger

906
01:05:17,159 --> 01:05:21,440
is teleportation is limited compared to that, and we still think it's like awesome,

907
01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:26,920
and yeah, these just make that
look like a joke. So yeah,

908
01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:30,159
so that's something to keep an eye
on. Obviously, black Beard crew

909
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,280
Is is definitely keep an eye on
Shanks Elbaf. What's gonna happen, what's

910
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:41,239
gonna be revealed? Fucking the Yeah, that's what you know. That's what

911
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,800
I'm saying. There's something special about
these guys because it's like they're almost like

912
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:50,400
in Full Metal Alchemists, like the
different Sins or something like, when there's

913
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:55,079
like this connection between them, and
I don't think they could teleport anywhere by

914
01:05:55,159 --> 01:05:58,960
themselves, but I think the fact
that like if one somewhere he can summon

915
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:04,760
the others, I think there's some
kind of connection between them that to me

916
01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:11,079
leads me to believe that they don't
each have individual devil fruits and it could

917
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:14,840
be like an EMU bestowed thing.
But we'll see, we'll see what happens.

918
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,599
Yeah, yeah, I think that's
all plausible and interesting. Yeah.

919
01:06:18,599 --> 01:06:21,960
I think this is a good podcast. I see you again, hopefully in

920
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:28,760
less than six months. Yeah,
really try to do whatever you at least

921
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,119
every six months. You can check
out the anime vision. I think you

922
01:06:32,159 --> 01:06:35,519
guys are still doing that. Yep, yep. You can check out the

923
01:06:35,639 --> 01:06:40,599
Rank Cafe. We we are still
doing Rank and we're also doing like a

924
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,639
D and D campaign as part of
Rank of fe my first time ever playing

925
01:06:43,719 --> 01:06:47,039
DND. Briggs is doing the Dungeon
Mastering and it's been awesome. Teching is

926
01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:51,960
with us as well and Truck Johns, so it's been great. And I

927
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:55,880
had a question chat about doing a
Borto origin, Like, I don't have

928
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,920
immediate plans to do it. I'm
not gonna say no, but it's a

929
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:03,840
possible get that every animated version episode. I don't I don't have media plans

930
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:09,239
for it, but I'm not gonna
say never say never. Do it.

931
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:14,880
We'll see is Borto still ongoing or
the finished No, it's on Borto,

932
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:18,719
you could say, quote unquote is
finished. But Borto two vortexas to Blue

933
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:24,679
Vortex's is like now Naruto shippud that
sort of thing happening that is going on,

934
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:29,800
Yeah, exactly, so it could
potentially save it. So we'll see

935
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,599
what happens. And yeah, there's
the only benefit of doing in the brow

936
01:07:32,719 --> 01:07:35,840
of version would be like, guys
can make Borto content on your YouTube channel.

937
01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:40,599
No, I mean like either way. Yeah, if there's an interesting

938
01:07:40,679 --> 01:07:45,079
Borto chapter, like, I'll try
to cover it whether we do the podcast

939
01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:47,639
or not, because I'm not that
well you you are, you are got

940
01:07:47,679 --> 01:07:50,400
it. Yeah, I'm pretty much
caught up. But I mean, the

941
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:56,159
Baron Mode Naruto stuff was was hyped
as Fox, So if if Borto two

942
01:07:56,239 --> 01:08:01,639
Vortexas can do something like that,
that would be cool. All right,

943
01:08:01,719 --> 01:08:05,039
Animac wrap it up, yep,
yep, thank you guys, and until

944
01:08:05,519 --> 01:08:08,159
next time whenever that is he has
based coup