Yo, what's up? Everybody's Tanna mac here from Ana Marport. Welcome to
another episode of the One Piece Visin Podcast. We're back again and we are
discussing chapters one ninety six to one thousand and eleven, so like sixteen different
chapters. Again. We were gonna do this more often, but shit happens.
However, we have a lot to talk about and it's absolutely epic.
And since there's like a three week break now with the manga, the One
Piece manga, I think this is the perfect moment now to catch up once
again. Joining me, we got goes In and Briggs. What up guys?
Yo? What up? Boys? Good to finally be back. Yeah,
good to be back. Last time I think it was just me and
Briggs because it goes down with nowhere to be found. But this time he
is back. Yeah. No, glad to be back. Always excited about
One Piece. And honestly, it's because you guys did that episode by yourselves.
But I was like, sixteen doesn't seem as bad as like I thought,
But it's because you guys did an episode in between. Yeah, and
I feel quite a bit. It'll be fair you have I'm sure you had
a legitimate excuse now to be there wasn't because well, you're my brother anyway.
So we got three big things I feel like, I mean, there's
a lot of stuff about but I think three big aspects of the story to
discuss are. One the backstory Kuma's full backstory, because last time we started
off with the God Valley flashback beginning and we met like Ginny and and and
the Eon, we saw young of von Kov and young Kuma. But then
after that we had the whole expansion of Kuma's backstory was just quite possibly the
most tragic backstory in all of one piece, which is saying a lot.
Yeah, obviously we got Genny's backstory, and we got Bonnie's backstory. Yes,
we got a lot of backstories the daughter of Ginny, right, So
we learned a lot about Bonnie, her true age and all this other shocking
stuff. Then we had obviously Saturn was already uh fighting on Egghead before this,
but we had that escalate with Vegapunk apparently being killed and then the death
of egga Punk triggering an announcement that Vegapunk is about to reveal the true history
of the world to the entire world using hacked transpond their snails all over the
world, and then the world government is panicking because of this, so much
so that the other four gotos say were summoned by Saturn two Egghead and they
old teleport it just like he did initially onto Egghead. They ald teleported all
the way from marijhoa two Egghead like instant dark magic teleportation. They all revealed
their devil fruit slash devil forms whatever, because some people think it's not delfruit.
Some people think they're actual de devils. There's a ton of theories out
there, but basically they all revealed their devil fruit forms. They all seem
to be some sort of mythical zone types with epic powers based on Japanese yokai,
which are Japanese like demonic mythical demonic beasts. And at the end of
the very last chapter some onenty eleven, we had that giant robot from theanch
Kingdom wake up and say I'm sorry joy Boys. So it was just like
nuts. That was a great summary of everything. That was a great Submary.
Yeah, I was gonna Now we're gonna go through things a little more,
a little bit more detailed. I do want to say I read about
fifteen of these chapters or fourteen of these chapters today and I had it.
I was not caught up. It was actually embarrassing. I was on stream,
like getting emotional over the backstories and losing my fucking mind at like all
the different like when Loofy drabs Kizaru and the Elder in his Giant for I
always losing my mind today reading these chapters. But we should start off with
chapter one ninety six though, right, And just just to say, at
first, on the one hand, that's cringe, Briggs, I was caught
up before you you're you're a fake fan. But on the other hand,
it's cool that now you're fresh for the podcast so exactly. But yeah,
dude, I was. I was getting so emotional with Kuma's backstory. I
think it's one of the best, and honestly, like, I feel like
it's been a while since we actually were there, so I kind of now
I'm reading chapters and even thinking about it. But yeah, at the time,
I remember it was fucking heavy. It was probably even better for me
because I was reading them all at once, like a in a big ball,
from chapter to chapter. I could only imagine reading that weekly that you
guys were probably losing your minds. Yeah, So it's it's crazy because Kuma's
backstory starts off at his very birth. It's tragical because of his buccaneer heritage
and his family being enslaved and his parents being killed, and it just keeps
getting more and more tragic. And we finally get the explanation for why Kuma
apparently volunteered to become on android passive fee stuff for the World Government, which
was I remember all the way back in like Schibbaudi and stuff like that was
like a big question. It's like, why is this former revolutionary who clearly
helped the straw Hats, so he's not a bad guy, Why did he
agreed to become a murderous android for the government, like the evil World Government,
Like, why would he possibly agree to something like that? And now
we finally know, obviously he agreed because after he managed to escape the God
Valley. Oh yeah, chapter one hunting tournament. He managed to escape,
he also managed to save like five hundred other people, and then him and
Ginny and Ivankov joined the revolutionaries. So for a while they were fighting against
the World Government and they were back on Sorbet Island, right, and then
even even there, we saw like a young Kuma willingly absorbing the pain and
illness of other people with his double fruit, like every week at his church
sermon to help other people, even though it was like destroying him physically because
he has to take all on all of that damage, you know, like
remember nothing happened, Yeah, exactly, he was doing that every week,
bro, And he was just doing because he cared that much about the people
of the Sorbet kingdom. So then there were some things with like the king
there and then Kuma overthrowing him because he was in slaving people, and then
him trying to come back and all that type of stuff. But basically eventually
Ginny wanted to marry him, and he was like no, kind of that
wasn't you know, he wasn't in that headspace. He become a commander of
the revolutionaries, and then she got kidnapped by the dragons and then she was
forced to marry one of them, had a baby. That baby was Bonnie,
so we know where Bonnie came from. And Ginny died due to a
rare illness, and but Bonnie was then taken in by Kuma as his own
daughter. Yes, and what was the illness cause it was like when they
were in the light or moonlight and any any type of light soft fire scales.
I think it's called soft fire, yes, and it's associated. I
think it's a gemstone like associated with uh, Saturn's planet or something. I
think guess a post about that. Oh yeah, So so the reason why,
the reason why, Chad, thank you, The reason why Uma didn't
want to marry Ginny's because he knew what happened to his parents. His mother
was not a buccaneer, but she was married to a buccaneer, and that
alone was reason enough, like enslaver, and she eventually died. So that's
why he didn't want to put Jinny through that. Uh, that did not
work out, But yeah, dude, so much happened. Just going back
to the God Valley arc, like we ended off the last podcast with like
the Celestial Dragons were putting on this fucking like game where they're hunting humans and
they're like rewarding points and the prizes were devil fruits. By then, Ivankov
and Kuma they were like they kind of like fought back and and imagine to
steal the fruits, and that's how he got his what's that what's the fruit
called, like pop off fruit or something A point that's a good point.
So they managed to steal those two devil fruits, the horn mowned fruit and
moncaws and uh kuma, and they used the devil fruits to help them get
off God Valley, but other fruits were were not able to get some of
the other fruits, such as Kaido's fruit, which was taken by Big Mom.
Mm hmm. Did you notice that? So we got so also at
God Valleys ship is going down, you got Rocks the Zebex or like Rock's
crew there. So that includes like white Beard and Kaido and Big Mom and
also Big Mom's actually like hot oh yeah. But then it's funny like Garp
wasn't interested. You're like, oh, I'm gonna go there to help Celestial
Dragon like not interested. Oh ship Roger's gonna be there. I'm going like
yeah. So so that's that's I don't know, I remember now if I
rant about this in a video or on the last podcast, but so far
from everything we've seen, Rocks and Rocks should be considered a hero, not
a villain. Yeah, because if you know the way the world government stirs
things, right, Yeah, if you see what the fuck the world government
was doing on God Valley, you know, Zebec coming in there to disrupt
it in any way is a good act. And for Garb to be like,
oh, I'm just having a vacation where this shit is going on,
and I know that they're you know, murdering hunting people for sport. Oh
what Zebec and Roger are there? Now I'm going to get involved, and
you know, Roger getting involved against Zebec. It's like, what the fuck?
Bro Some pieces as Zebec is doing the world a favor by attacking the
Celestial Dragon. I agree, I think them come on, I agree,
But something is missing clearly because Rogers Obviously Roger doesn't seem like the kind of
guy that would have done that, So there's something is missing. But yeah,
perhaps they thought Rocks was such an evil force that if he actually became
king of the world it would be a bigger problem. But that's hard to
believe because of how big world government is and what kind of problem they are.
Yes, that's why, like, I hope something big is missing.
Otherwise, that seems like Roder and Garb were doing the devil's work there.
Yeah, I think the Marines, even the good ones, always have to
turn a blind eye to the celestial dragons and the world government. Right,
that's a common thing. That that's why why, probably why Garp didn't want
to go in the first place. No, but he went. He didn't
go in the first place to stop what was happening there, but he went
when Zebec tried to stop it. Yeah, yeah, there is something missing,
but Garb, for sure, he is established as a guy who,
although he doesn't want to follow orders from the celestial Dragons, he doesn't go
out of his way to stop them, right, which is why he's still
a marine. So that's not that surprising coming from Garp. He's not the
hero that, at least so far the Netflix adaptations making him seem like.
But yeah, so that point, I'm not yet satisfied with Garbs and Roger's
role and involvement in the whole thing and their motivations. But we'll see.
Uh. Yeah, So we didn't get the full flashback for God Valley.
We got kind of like the setup and what happened with specifically Kumaivan Kam and
Ginny, but we didn't get the whole why was Zebach there? Why was
Roger there? We didn't get all that, and we didn't get how did
Shank send up in a treasure box? And she's like that, right,
yeah, so old it will never give it. Guess give us it all.
It's so sad if I just want it all. But they're like,
yeah, they got the fruits. They escaped, and it kind of flashed
forwards to we have to get like that part of Animax talking about though,
we have to get why after right, Roger went, yeah, uh,
back to the Genny backstory. So we also learned that Ginny got her disease
because Saturn, who is a scientist, was doing experiments on her. So
because Saturn was experimenting on her, both her Andani ended up getting the sapphire
skills disease, although Bonnie's developed later on, not right away when she was
born. Bro that pissed me off so much because like, and Odin knows
what he's doing, but he made it so that Okay, the reason that
Kuma agreed to this was to say Bonnie, and he made the deal with
Saturn. But Saturn put Bonnie in the situation the first place, so he
had to make the deal in the first place, all pure evil, bro,
And I think Oda is setting it up like really well for us really
hating Saturn and really it's gonna be really satisfying when Loufy shits on him.
Yeah. So for all those people who were saying like, oh, maybe
the Gordo se are just like, you know, pencil pushers, or maybe
they're just like politicians are not fighters and they're not actively evil, they're just
kind of managing the go. Yeah, those guys are A definitely fighters and
B they're definitely evil as far. Yeah, I'll admit I wasn't sure myself
in the beginning, like until obviously we started seeing their power and them showing
up to the battlefield. I also wasn't sure that they're going to be like,
you know, above admiral level and the ship. It's absolutely crazy.
They seem like they can't be injured at this point. Yes, they have
like like super a generation from from MHA, you know, so one theory
could be that, Yeah, so they're not devil fruits in and of themselves,
but they're granted those powers from Emu and Emu's devil fruit, and then
to stop them from regenerating, you need to like kill Emu or something like
that, but we'll see what happens. Yeah, there's also no theory that
they are actual devils in human form rather than humans who ate devil fruits.
But because they're presumed to be immortal and from the void century, something like
that could be possible because we don't know exactly what ancient kingdom and that technology.
We don't know much about it because it just not be human. They've
been referring to everyone else's insects, right, Yeah, and I mean they
they all have those like really inhuman beast forms that that kind of implied it
could be something else. But another thing though, the God Valley flashback totas
is that Saturn look the exact same way now he looks the exact same way
now as he did almost forty years ago during God Valley, which again kind
of backs up that theory that they could be either immortal or they age very
slowly compared to the average person. Yeah, I'd go for immortal for now,
but we'll see. That's my theory at least, But again, immortality
can be seen in different ways. It doesn't necessarily mean there's no way to
kill them. It just means like, you know, they don't age and
usual attacks. There has to be like a secret way to kill them rather
than they usually Yeah, I'm sure there's a way to defeat them, but
it could be like like you said, it could be you gotta get Emu
first or something like that. Now it's very I feel like plausible, although
I would really like for Saturn to get as just desserts at this point after
everything in the backstory. But I do think that the most plausible thing now
is the escape, right, Yeah, I think so too. Yeah,
rather than them just defeating five elders, Yeah, because it's not just Souturd
anymore. It's all five go to say, all of them with their insane,
overpowered devil fruits. So at this point it does seem like the goal
will be to escape rather than defeat them, which will kind of leave people
thinking like, oh man, this story isn't actually resolving itself as quickly as
we hoped or as we thought it would, with us saying this is the
final saga and everything. However, what could make up for that and make
it more satisfying is if we actually get to hear the Vega Punk world true
or the world reveal, Because that could reveal a lot, and now that
robot waking up that could also reveal a lot. But it's funny because a
lot of people were pissed that there was a timer that Vega Punk put on
it like ten minutes, allowing the world government to potentially stop the broadcast,
and a lot of people were like pissed about it, saying like, come
on, old to stop fucking with us, stop doing this. They not
actually stopping now, you know, because people want to know they've been waiting
so long. That might be purposeful though, in the sense that it does
serve the purpose of buying time, and in this case for Loofy, it
does buy time. And it's hilarious to like comedic elements we can't underestimate in
one piece because a lot of it is comedy, and just the fact that
it's like, oh, I guess we'll have an instant coffee, Like it's
just hilarious. But I think at some point the fandom has been teased for
so long that like people are getting on edge. I wonder, though,
I wonder if if it bothers people like significantly, or if they're just gonna
be like, I'm more excited, more excited. Oda knows how to tease
me sort of thing, you know, I don't know. I do think
the ten minutes is actually a good idea. It creates so much tension and
so much stakes and like gets us on the edge of our seats and anticipation
type of thing. If they were to just give it to us, I
don't think it would feel And again there's the very real possibility. Yeah,
go ahead, I'll just say, like it creates like a reason for like
the go say it to all show up, and it creates a reason for
like like it. Just like the it forces the battle to happen or the
escape to happen in like a time a timely way, in a way I
don't know. I escape, I agree. I think that I think it's
going to have that actual, like real effect, the delay of being a
distraction so that Loofy can escape. Now, whether that was initially baked in
or whether that was just a coincidence and Vega Punk knew when he decided to
die that that'll help Loofy, we don't know. But I do think it'll
have very real and necessary consequences. Whether or not you like the idea that
it's prolonged. We'll see, because I'll agree with you that kid has definitely
had a lot of tension and a lot of like excitement and all this a
lot of stuff happening at the same time, but at the same time.
If we get I was pissed auput the Shanks situation. Okay, I was
pissed that Shanks was right there. He could easily went and met with Loufy
and we will waiting for that since the chapter one, and he did it.
He was just like a big fuck you in my opinion to the fans,
like why you even have that scene with Shanks there? Well, he
flex on, he flexed on the admiral, which was cool anyway, I
complained about that before. And so if we get another situation now where they
the gor to say, managed to stop the Vega Punk reveal just and the
straw Heads get away, meaning that we don't get the information and we don't
get the Gorrose defeated, the straw Hads get away, and so the gorst
are still round, we don't get the true history of the world. I
will be pissed. Yeah, I see how that could be annoying, but
I also don't want them to rush I feel like whatever Oda rushes something,
I am so pissed off, Like I don't need this series to end any
time, one and one and eleven chapter and it's they did the kid in
law. Look at what they did with the kid in law, Like it
just the whatever. He rushed his parts because he's like, oh, we
need to get to the final arc, or like certain things are less important.
It ruins my You're I even thought that was sick Broid. Yeah,
I did like kid, But at the same time it breaks that rushing,
so to speak, does very much show the power of Shanks and hypes them
up. Right, I beat Shanks anyway? Of course I would rather,
I'm saying, I would rather wait and get slow reveals and get like actual
satisfaction from from something versus oh, like, obviously they can't defeat the gor,
say now they have to escape. It's too soon for the Gor say
like, this is not the Gorse versus straw Hats fight, clearly, right,
But I do want through another ten years then I'm okay with it.
Make it twenty. No, yeah, I'm not in a rush at all
to finish that up. And I agree with Briggs as long as the eventual
answers are satisfying. I don't care how long the tease, so to speak,
continues, as long as we get a little bit by a little bit,
as long as it's not like absolutely no information being given. Yeah,
I do see at an x frustration. It's just like I when I want
to when it does happen, I want it to be done well and not
be like, oh, we have to force it because we need. Yeah
for people like that to just wait until the series is over and watch one
of my explained videos and that can wrap it up. I want to know
the history of the fucking Void Century. I've been waiting for so long.
Well not as long as Briggs, but because I caught up later, but
I'm still go wait, what was on? I do think now is a
good time to reveal it, though, because we are getting to the final
arcs. I think now revealing to the world about the Void entry actually makes
sense. Yeah, that's what I mean, because and not only is there
the big fight with the World government, there's also the Blackbeard stuff, which
is separate exactly, so you know, Black real Well is also still there.
The black Beard pirates showed out randomly, two of them, yes,
and then he touched. She touched Saturn's leg, I think, and she
can. That's Katerina and she can transform into someone she touches, right,
Yeah, exactly, that's why she did it. Yeah, got it.
I was I was even acting chat. I'm like, what's her devil for?
What's her ability? It has something to do with the touch, I
can't remember. Yeah, it's that it's a nine tailed fox and one of
its abilities is to transform clothing and everything into the character. Yeah, so
I wonder what she's planning to do with that because in order, like,
not many people know about Saturn and his form and all that stuff outside,
you know, the World government. So is she going to try to infiltrate
the World government using Saturn and do like So, here's Blackbeard going after the
World Government. That's what I'm thinking now, because obviously we're all waiting for
black Bear versus Loofy or black Beat versus Shanks, But maybe we're gonna see
black reversus the World Government. Zebec, who is is the Sandpi of black
Beard, wanted to over throw the World Government and become the king of the
world. So that's also an angle. Yeah, I don't see Blackbeard personally
at this point taking on in the World Government, because he's usually one that
would like wait until the opportunity is perfect. But I do think this is
a useful chess piece for him to have, and that even if he doesn't
take on the World Government right away, it's useful to have an inside person
or be able to get inside difficult places or you know. I do think
this will come in handy whether or not this is his time to attack the
World Government. Yeah, And and then I liked how the Eleventh Straw had
Caribou pretended like he was gonna be on the Blackbeard side, when in reality
he's just gonna overthrow the dude, so slimy. I don't trust him,
bro, and neither should black Beard, because he's the seventh The eleventh Straw
hat exactly about the king, remember the king of that like really like whatever,
like good shitty king who was burning and killing half of the half of
the island and then Kuma like smashed him and overthrew him. And at first
he was saving people and then ended he ended up becoming like basically the king
in name only. Yeah, that pisses me off too, And I and
get what Oda is doing, like it is real world like injustices. But
I can't believe he has to like run because he killed such a corrupt dude,
you know, or defeated such a corrup dude, just because the corrupt
dude was on this had the world government backing him. Otherwise it was just
a random king and then there was a revolution. I feel like it wouldn't
matter as much. But this guy specifically had like ties to the I don't
know if it was to the sleshi Ol Dragons, I can't remember. Uh.
Yeah, he was just being backed by the world government. Yeah,
he was their preferred ruler. Yeah. That infuriated me. It's like it's
like nothing can go right for Kuma. That's and I mean that's part of
the story and the tear jerker and everything. But that's why Bonnie you better
have like an exceptional ending, you know. Yeah. Well we also learned
Bonnie's true age, which is like twelve or something. Yeah. Yeah,
then there was that whole that Twitter thing I heard about Twitter controversy. Yeah,
we can't. We can no longer ship Somji with Bonnie. Guys.
I'm sorry. Sorry. Even if physically she could transform into an eighty year
old technically she has only been around her mind has only been around for twelve
years. I thought he was old. Leave it to animes that just create
such a weird situation. Well, that's the thing, because we meet her
when she's like, looks twenty four or something least I think that was the
official kind of like eight. She looks like, yeah, around twenty four.
Yeah, obviously remember Blackbeard's comment, Oh, yeah, exactly, you
can join me if you want to be my woman. Yeah she's twelve.
It was yeah, before we knew she was twelve. It was funny because
he's like, you're not strong enough to join my crew on that merit,
but you could be one of my u what of my harem? But yeah,
now it looks worse. But black Beer is not supposed to look like
a good guy, so I guess it doesn't really. I mean, it's
just a Pirates anime canceled on Twitter. It's over for him. Yeah,
yeah, what's it called big news Morgans and to get him canceled? Yeah.
Also, there was a beautiful scene with with Kuma where like he finds
out that he has to sacrifice his humanity and he has to sacrifice his life
and everything just to save Bonnie's cure Bonnie's illness, and he was like so
happy about It's like that's it, that's all it'll take type of thing.
Yeah, that's a beautiful moment. It was like beautiful and sound at the
same time, but very like bittersweet, where he's just like like, obviously
he's he was like a major figure for the revolutionaries, and he's extreme,
extremely strong. He's a strong devil fruit, so he would be a great
asset in finding the World government. But he gave it all up and to
serve the world government in exchange for Bonnie's life. And obviously Bonnie's not his
biological daughter. He didn't even like he could have been one of the like
someone some other guy might have been like, I don't care about this child
that was forced upon the woman I love, you know, but he like
took her in as if she was his own daughter, which is also incredible.
Yeah, his whole character arc from the beginning was sacrificing himself for others,
and you brought that up when you talked about him taking, uh,
taking other people's pain in the church, and yeah, obviously this was the
woman he loved the most, and so this is her child, and it
makes sense that he'd be willing to sacrifice his life, which you know,
to him is not that big of a deal. Even on God Valley.
He was willing to be the decoy. He's like, I'm sturdy, He'll
be the deca way they'll attack me while you guys do it. Yeah.
Yeah, it's just an overall I feel bad he took himself out of the
gene pool because he's like, bro, I don't want I don't want to
repeating the past situation. But but Bonnie wanted him. Man, I don't
know. Yeah, I guess that's the thing, like he got he got
to have a child without creating another buccaneer. Yeah. Anyway, So so
one thing I wanted to do. I don't know if you guys want to
talk more about the Kuma stuff. Obviously there's a lot to talk about,
but I didn't want to go back to the Gorro Say. One thought I
had while working on one of the videos for the channel was do you guys
think that Jupiter joined the Gorro Say later than the others because he looks younger
than the others, and I'm pretty sure. At one point he also said
during that whole reveal about the Nika fruit. He was like surprised, He
was like, why was the name changed for the Nika fruit? And then
the others were explaining it to him. So it's almost like that name change
decision was made before he joined. So do you think could he could have
joined at a different time than the other Gordos, meaning that he might not
be from the void's entry? That is very possible. That's interesting. Yeah,
but he still has the same abilities as these guys. Yeah, it
could kind of allude to if he was joining after can Imusama turn is is
it maybe pointing towards Emusama turning these guys and giving them these abilities like who
he chooses? Yeah, Raf says they were all around twenty three years ago.
Yeah, I'm thinking like maybe he joined two hundred years ago and the
other guys joined eight hundred, like you know, ye exactly, he's the
new kid on the block, but he's still hundreds of years Well, no,
I think that's a fair fair assumption, and I didn't catch that or
think about it in that way. But yeah, why would except to explain
to us, Like why would that make sense in the story for them to
be explaining the Nika frut to someone. Yeah, I also want to say
that what's his name? Noos Trudo, Uh, the meanest guy, the
kind of samurai dude from the Godos. He has a sick devil fruit which
is like a horse skeleton, which is a yokaia. That one is super
cool. But he has a hybrid form which is like he's essentially a centaur
with the sword, so he's like super fast using a katana. His upper
body is like his human body, and then his lower body is the freaking
sick and then obviously has a full horse mode and the human form. Also
loved the dune worm that was That was dope. Yeah. Apparently when they
were someone, they all had numbers one through four on them, and Saturn
had number five. That's interesting. And which one were you thinking? Which
one were you thinking was the one that joined later Jupiter because he's the one
that looks the youngest and the one that didn't seem to know that, you
know, mean's name was changed. That's interesting. So so yeah, we
have a comment here that introduced one to five and Jupiter is number one.
Well, oh maybe they started with five and work their way down. Yeah,
that's what I'm thinking that's interesting. I think, Adam, that could
be onto something. Do you guys understand Bonnie's fruit, it's not just I
think I do, yes, So you could use distorted future, which again
I don't know how much is people toying with her fruits a saturn toying with
the fruit, and how much is like just the fruit itself. But yeah,
so there's distorted future, which literally lets her create multiple futures and use
the one she wants to at that point. One of them was Nika future
and she we were just asked about that in the comments, and could she
actually go Nika like loofy. Well, I think she could, But again,
it's not like unlimited power, because we know hockey is such a huge
thing in one piece. And even if she could, like, let's say,
imitate a devil fruit, it doesn't mean she's as powerful as that masterful
hockey user mm hmm. And it just it's just a brief period. I
think she can. I do think I do mind any of the fruit.
I think she would be able to. Fun fact, I think she used
gear third before Lufy ever used your third. Yeah, exactly. I think
it's based off of potential, off of the stories that she heard about Nika
and how he fought and stuff, and so she applied that to her own.
Yes, I told her about about Nica's rubbery abilities. One thing I
wonder though, just and this is just like not super supportive and evidence or
anything. I'm just wondering, is if Nika is special in the sense that
her able to mimic his powers might be because he's Nika because of that whole
like legend and the idea of the Ka spreading joy and you know, like
I'm saying, like I wonder if she can copy Nika's powers but not other
people's powers. Is because Nika is special, because Nika is this legend that
has existed for so long and has its own sort of power and it's a
god that because you know, Lufy has the whole ability where he draws people
towards himself, right, He's always had that, and Nica spreads joy and
it liberates people. So it's like it's the power of Nika in some ways,
it's supposed to be spread among people. So I wonder if that's part
of the reason why Nika can be copied or his powers can be copied by
Bonnie as opposed to like copying black Beard's level fruit in a future where she
takes black Beard's level fruit. You know what I mean. The only thing,
Yeah, well, I think Briggs is gonna say the same thing.
The other thing I'm wondering is, like what Briggs pointed out is that like
she used it before getting close to Loufy and Saturn point the concept of it,
the concept of it, But Saturn pointed out the more he learns of
the world, the less potential futures she has. But you know why I
think that is I have a theory on that. I don't think that that's
true. I think that's because he assumes that the more you learn of the
world, the more limited your imagination is and the more pessimistic you are.
And I think Loofy is a counterpoint to that, where you can grow up
without giving up on your imagination and giving up on your dreams. So I
think it's directly tied to your ability to believe the impossible as possible, so
to speak, versus become aging, like in your stereotypical way where it's like,
oh, you know, this is life, it's miserable, blah blah
blah. Yeah, I mean if the world government and the Goro say an
Emo. If they really thought that, they wouldn't be so worried about hiding
the truth about the world. They wouldn't be so worried about O'Hara studying the
name of the ancient kingdom and shit like that, right, Yeah, I
think yeah, It's part of the reason that she couldn't use it well was
because she was devastated by figuring out more about the truth of what happened,
and that crushed her spirit, so to speak. But I think Lufy is
going to reverse that with his example. That's a that's a good theory.
That's a good theory. Also, we got Dori and Broggy coming back,
Brogy and the Giant Pirates arriving to save the day, which, honestly I
like that. I like that a lot because A we get to see Dorian
brogiing in and it obviously connects to all the way back to Little Garden and
all that stuff. And B they had to come because like the straw Hats
could not handle the Gordos for even two minutes without some major help. Live
Dori Say pulled up after Vega Punk announced that in ten minutes his his broadcast
was gonna go, so like Lucy was able to hold back sadder an Anki
Zaru, which was blowing my mind. But once the other fourth bontuity,
he needed someone, yes, and are fucking chat And the other thing to
keep in mind is that his time limit, by all accounts, should be
running out right sooner than later. So unless he gets some kind of stamina
boost because he's used the power for multiple times and for a while, like,
this situation does not look good. They got to escape soon. Yeah,
so either someone like the Giants or like the Red Hair Bard, someone
had to come to back them up, because otherwise they would have been I'm
disappointed by Dragon, like he's probably doing something important or he trusted that.
I'm just yeah, I'm disappointed because like Kuma was his bro, like arguably
best friend. Then you have Loofy, who's his son, Bonnie there,
who's obviously important to Kuma and and you know, obviously as a result,
should be important to Dragon. And I feel like this would have been the
perfect time to get revenge for Jenny and everything. I think this would have
been the perfect time to just you know, show up and help. But
hopefully he's doing something important and hopefully he just assumed that maybe he got worried
that the giants are coming and he thinks Sloofy can handle it. I don't
know. Yeah, so the on Twitter Dragon has become a huge meme in
the sense that he never shows up and he's never where he should be,
and he's We're always thinking he's doing something important, but he never seems to
be doing shit. Yeah, imagine, Yeah, he just pissed out Sabo
for false information. Do you think he could still be trying to show up
because we know he was talking with ivan Kov, like, where do you
think he would go? And if jon Klas was like that with him,
I would storm the Mary Joa And he's like, I think he would go
somewhere else, and I think that's the last we heard of him, So
after that, he could technically be heading here as well. Right, Yeah,
I'm just trying to figure out how the time stuff works. I guess
we don't have to get too bogged down by that because of conversation we saw
a few chapters ago could technically be like a longer time ago, but we
saw them like talking Sabo and Ivonkov and Dragon together, So I just don't
know. If they're anywhere close at this point, or if that conversation happened
like minutes ago, you know that's true. Yeah, so I'm definitely looking
forward to seeing what happens after Agad. I also, if I find it
impossible for all five to be defeated, unless you know, the Revolutionaries showed
up to out of nowhere or Red Hair Pirates are both are not being defeated
on this hour, I'd be crazy. I agree. I think I'd actually
be upset then promise I can to show up on a kid in the first
place, all of them, so, you know, woulda could surprise us.
But I do think that probably we're gonna have. You know, maybe
Saturn defeated because of the whole Katerina Devin thing of her trying to copy him.
So maybe one of them defeated like Saturn, and then the Straw has
escaped and they go to Elbath, And yeah, that would be very convenient
for Blackbeard, because all of a sudden, the one he copied is defeated,
and then he can just come back like you, I wasn't defeated,
bro come on, but and I would yeah, go ahead. I wonder
if Olda is saving Dragon and the Revolutionaries for like the final showdown when the
straw Hat Fleet meets up with them and they all like attack Marie together.
He better be saying them for something, bro. Yeah, I know,
I feel like there's gonna be a war, and I don't think the Revolutions
are going to do it. I think they're gonna go and take down Mary
Joe, and like, I don't know the Holy Nights are. They're only
really difficult opponents, which I feel like would be underwhelming for the Revolutionaries.
But was there too. It's true, Yeah, it's it's weird because I
wonder if it's going to be like a war where Loofy has an opponent and
then like some of the bigger opponents get taken off by taken on by allies.
But part of me like, based on the way the story goes,
part of me imagines Loofy beating both Blackbeard and both Emu at some point.
Not at the same time, obviously, but I guess someone could potentially take
on Emu that's not Loofy. I wonder now if news Juda could actually be
the strongest swordsman in the world. We just don't know it because he never
fights well I definitely, yeah, go ahead. Obviously, Mihawk is known
as the girl's greatest story swordsman, and that's Soro's goal is to defeat Mihawk.
But Mihawk is not going to be a bad guy. He's not gonna
fight Zora to the death. So I wonder if actually news Judau might turn
out to be. I think Mihawk is better, and I think Zora will
have to defeat him, uh the Elder before he takes on Mihawk again for
his rematch. Yeah, because like he can do the he can do the
whole worse form and still have his sword in the hybrid form, So being
incredibly fast and a swordsman like that's huge. But just because of the way
that Mihawk was hyped up the whole series, there there's no way I see
uh, this guy being stronger than him and being Zorro's final opponent that I
don't see that happen. So you don't think me Hawk is you think Mihawk
is stronger than a Gordo s Yeah, for sure, knowing what we know
now, Yeah for sure. In my opinion, it's it's really tough to
because I don't think the god like the world's Strongest Swordsman title very literally,
like we think, oh, he has to be like like anyone who has
a sword, he has to be stronger than But it's a tough call because
there's so much more that applies, like maybe he's the most skilled swordsman,
but then there's also like hockey and devil fruits and like it's it's really it's
a really tough to say. Yeah. So although God says are strong,
I don't think they're I don't think like they're like yo, Like, Okay,
they can be above let's say, admiral level, but I don't think
that that means they're above like Shank's level or Mihawk level. Necessarily. I
think they have to be like Yanko level. But again, Yank was such
a stretch because you have Shanks who was way, way, way, way
way stronger than Big Mom. So it's like, sure they could be like
Big Mom, but it doesn't mean that they can deal with Shanks or me.
Still, five five big Moms is terrifying. I think there are at
least Buggy level. Don't go crazy, dude, it's so crazy because we
have five. You got Emma and you got black Beard, and I have
no clue who's going to fight who, like, and black Beard has to
fight Lufy at some point that that's just been established. Yeah, it's just
a question of whether Lufy is also going to fight Emu before or after.
Yeah, but it's interesting. I feel like he has to fight Emu and
black Beard, and then the Say and the Holy Knights can be like less
and straw Hack Crew and the Less Animak is right and Blackbeard takes down Emu
and then obviously in that way, Lufy would be like fighting black Beard and
Emo at the same time. Oh, that's that's a that's a very interesting
theory. I like that. Yeah, I wouldn't be against that. That
would be a way for order to finish quicker if you wanted to. Speaking
of the Straw Hat Crew, we had some cool moments we had. We
had Sanji save it was he saved Kuma and Bonnie from Saturn, and then
I think he saved him again or he saved doctor Vegabunk from Kizaru to hype
Sanji moments. And then we had Zoro versus Lucci, and Zoro like basically
cut down Lucci but he was still standing, and then Jim Bay comes along
and it's like, punches him with some fish karate thing. We gotta go,
we gotta go. And then people were like, clearly Jim bays no,
but Zoro definitely deserved that. W So yeah, I'm I'm happy about
that. If anything, I would have liked to see like him finish him
quicker. But I mean, Lucci Oda respects Lucci and he's made that clear.
Yeah, it's drewe. I don't personally think Lucci is an you know,
endgame villain, but would have clearly want him to stay relevant or at
least to pay homage to the character and pay respect to the character. Yeah,
do you think I think do we think Lucci is Sanji level? Sanji
is such a such a weird thing right now because of his awakening, Like
I feel like he's a wild card so to so to speak. Yeah,
that's tough because I don't think we've seen like his full power since his awakening.
Yeah, he hasn't been kind of driven to near death or anything.
Right, he hasn't been driven to to bring Yeah, he hasn't had one
of those epic fights since his awakening. Like he shitted on Queen. It
wasn't even close like he like he's imagining like someone I don't know. Let's
say on one of the Blackbeard pirates is about to kill Nami or something,
and then we see like Sonji's true like Super Sam four awakening, you know,
yeah, I do. I do think that's a cool idea, and
I think that that would be a cool trigger for him because you know,
Goku got triggered by Krillin and I feel like Nami and Sanji come on,
that would work well for me. Yeah, or like they actually killed Pudding
or something, Yeah, yeah, kill it yo Yo killing like a chick
he's he's loved or you know, had his moments with I feel like would
create the craziest moment where they were like walking towards our long park, our
long park on steroids for Sandre like it would be Yeah, because the whole
Pudding thing, I feel like ended without a resolution. I think there's gonna
be more to that. I don't and I don't. I want to be
clear. I don't think Sandi beats Zoro, but I just think that Sanji
is a wild card and I wouldn't I wouldn't limit his power against like opponents
till we see him go full out. Yeah, I think NJ will be
closer than we think, but I do think they're all a little bit stronger.
Yeah, and I think would I likes to stir a pod by kind
of having all the especially the Big Three, but old the straw Heads,
kind of like defying expectations. H I think. So I wouldn't say Sonja
can't beat Luci right now, but I obviously Zorro can beat him, and
he didn't like struggle struggle against him. Sure that's fair, that's fair.
Anything else we want to cover, hm, hmmm, a lot. There's
all the little stuff, but I don't think that like we would be here
all day if we were covering all the little stuff. Yeah. One of
the things is to me is just like the time limit bro. Like again,
obviously Lufy can stretch time in a way where he's like one chapter could
be like two seconds in the real world, you know, So it doesn't
necessarily mean that he's been gearfied for a lot of chapters. They can't keep
it up, But it seems like Oda's regularly emphasizing his lack of ability to
maintain this form. So I feel like times running out, and yeah,
sooner or later, they're gonna have to escape, all right. A couple
of things we forgot to mention. One, Bonnie got to see all of
Kuma's memories, so she knows that he was sending letters. Why he oh
yeah, yeah, Like why he ended up like siding with the World government
and the Marines and stuff, and then like why he wasn't like with the
revolutionaries, why he didn't come back like he he got the She got to
see everything, even his past with like his dad and mother dying and everything
about him being a buccaneer, like he learned everything. But what's called Mega
Punk was very touched by their relationship and like how to really liked Kuma,
and he put a claw where he's just like he couldn't have it in his
heart where he's like he would be able to sacrifice all these things for the
World government, but in his heart he's like, I can't let this loving
father who would sacrifice his life and everything for his daughter, who I'm turning
into These pacifist does are basically like I can't have those pacififices that look like
Kuma attack Bonnie. That's the one thing that's gonna go above up all the
rankings like he always bring things like by hierarchy, who would have the control
of the pacifist does The one above all was they would not attack Bonnie.
And in that moment they turn around and like the buster call is happening,
which it is also destroy the entire island the buster calls literally using Pacifistas,
Pacifists turn around and just destroy a bunch of ships and marines. That it
was a great moment. Yeah, because like the gor were supposed to have
like the highest authority over the Pistas, but it turned out that Bonnie actually
did and not. And we also now know why they're called pacifistas, which
was always a weird name for war machines. But it's because in his heart,
I always wanted to be a pacifist, but he just never could because
of how he kept being attacked for his race and for all these other things.
But yes, now we know why they're called. Yeah, it's also
works for like an Orwellian pieces war sort of situation war's peace. But yeah,
I think that people there they're they're not. You can say someone's a
pacifist, you could say someone's pacifying someone else with weapons. Yeah, but
I will say that it's a little detail, but it pissed me off so
much. They they weren't giving those letters to Bonnie. Man, Oh,
I know. And then she was like, why isn't my dad writing me
letters? He said he wouldn't. They weren't giving her the fucking letters.
You the bitches little but Oda knows what what will pull out our heartstrings,
man, And that injustice just pisses us off to no end. And obviously
it's so satisfying when Bonnie uses a thestory Future Nika to destroy Alpha like that
was so satisfying. Oh yeah, I'm happy she got to see all the
letters in Yes, the truth, dude, the truth. Yeah, I
was so happy when she got that. You know why she was crying so
much when she had learned the memory stuff? Yeah, exactly, No,
it completely makes sense. And I think Vega Punk was honestly amazing. We
didn't really point out that, but you know, I think he was a
really good character. He showed that he will prioritize doing what's right at the
end of the day towards to his own life. And obviously there's a question
of is he fully dead if like his his clones are still alive. But
there is that fact that. You know, he could have just done been
a moral got unlimited money, kept helping the government, but he turned against
them. And even when Saturn was like, yo, I'm a scientist too,
I'll know if you if you change anything, he still was arrogant enough
to be like, oh yeah, yeah, okay, and still change it
without the guy noticing, which is just skill issue. Bro. Yeah.
So I thought Vega Punk was just a very good character, a very good
example of, you know, how people should be, and that Yeah,
you didn't expect that when we heard about him. You know, he was
talked about in these dark terms as like this amoral, crazy scientist, but
he turned out to be a really good guy. I also want to add
that, like I have, I have had some complaints with One Piece over
like the last couple of years. I love One Piece. It's my favorite
long of all time, and I think it is amazing, but towards the
end I've had some I've had some complaints. I think Egghead as a whole,
and obviously it's not done yet. We need to see what they end
up doing with this escape and the whole warning to the world or message to
the world. I think Egghead has been a top tier arc with amazing writing
from Oda, both between Khuma's back stories, the hype fight itself, and
all the reveals. It's been so great. Yeah, I think it goes
In has a good point about whether you know, is Vega Punk dead It
seems to he seems to be, but he could also be like, oh,
I had another clone who is now will take over. Yeah, and
he's the other Death Punk robot, you know, something like that. I
think he is dead, but I think his knowledge lives on, and I
think that's sort of what's going to happen with the clones, because it would,
I think, ruin the emotional and dramatic aspect to it if he that
version of him was alive. But in a way we have the information Megapunk
has and the knowledge through the other clones, so it's not like that knowledge
is lost to the world, I think. Butsanji's running away with his body
right now and he's bleeding out. We don't know that he's one hundred percent
dead, right I think I think that's what activated he seems to because the
thing was triggered by his death. Apparently, No, but that's what the
Gorse assumed. We don't know that to be a fact. Yeah, exactly,
Like so it's it's been implied, but we can't know for a fact.
And he could also like put just put his brain into some thumb pre
made android or something like. You don't know. With Vega, I will
say that he is a questionable character in terms of morality because in some ways
it seems throughout the story that he is willing to support the World Government in
doing horrible things and helping them in exchange for the ability to do all these
fancy experiments and all these different things. Now, of course he has certain
limits, like the whole body thing that he wasn't willing to do, but
overall, you know, he does do a lot of horrible things for the
World Government in exchange for resources and the ability to pursue knowledge. Now,
now that he's revealing the history of the world, apparently that could kind of
explain things more because it could be that Vegapunk felt that the only way to
really bring the World Government down is to infiltrate them and then learn the truth
and then reveal the truth. So kind of like the ends justify the means
thing where he will use the resources and stuff that they gave him to learn
the real truth to develop a plant to take them down, and then eventually
make it possible for them to be brought down. So that might have been
kind of his logic for helping the World Government while also working behind their backs.
Yeah, he's not a good That could be his real motivation rather than
just he wanted science and knowledge. You know, he wanted to pursue knowledge
by any means necessary, and even if that means supporting the killing of people
through the World Government. He who cares because I'm getting the money. I
think it might might be more than that. But will well, a lot
of people depend on what he says in that address if we get to hear
it, which I hope we will because it's such a fucking Chekhov's gun come
on or whatever. He's not a Couma, I will say, he's not
a kuma, but I do think that, you know, he definitely leans
towards like doing the right thing in the end. And another way to explain
it is he was doing research using the government money, and who knows that
that research might have might help drag in his friend in the end or someone
else. You don't know what he's gonna do. It's not his fault that
York went behind his back and like gave the mother flame to the government.
Right. Oh, someone in chat that Blackbeard has pudding, so we'll probably
see that putting Saundry's thing. Yeah, yeah, even knowing she's kidnapped could
activate that with him. Sorry, I'm distracted by chat. There no chats
bringing up some good points for sure. I mean anything else you guys want
to cover. Overall, egg has been fantastic. I can't wait. Yeah,
I think it's been great. Obviously, A lot of it depends,
I guess for me, A lot of will depend on how whether we get
a satisfying reveal or whether Oda cock blocks us again and blue balls us,
because I do think he blue balled us with Shanks, so hopefully we get
we don't get that again, because yeah, this is the final saga,
Like at some point this thing has to end. So we did get a
lot of reveals during Egghead, I grant that, but now that you know
I would have pulled, the history of the world will be revealed card.
I hope that we do get something. Who fed loofy Oh, we don't
know any any new thoughts on that based on the chapters that happen. So
yeah, that's that's the thing I want to bring up is just his his
I'm not sad his character in this arc so far, like the direction.
We'll see if we get more, but I feel like we should because he's
been a focal point. ODA is giving him some emphasis. Uh, it's
hard for him to attack his friends. He attacked Bonnie, he's being called
out by uh Vega Punk, and we just haven't seen a strong motivation for
him to just follow orders like a government dog. So yeah, I want
to see more. You can see by behavior that he regrets having to do
these things, but he seems to in the end always do them, so
I want to know why. He also nearly kills Megap himself. So yeah,
let's see. Let's see what happens there. Yeah, because I'm call
it that be I'm calling it that who got the food first? Well,
like to be fair, a lot of people did call it. But but
yeah, we'll see because he's he's obviously quick, right, yeah, exactly,
So no one saw, no one knew where it came from, and
no one was able to move at the time. Yeah, yeah, no,
A lot of people think it's keys little but then he goes on to
try to kill Vega Punk and it's like, has this a pre arranged thing
with Mega Punk? Like is he trying to make it seem like that way
for some reason? I want to hold onto Straws, but I just don't
know. Like currently, he got knocked down by Loofy and he's like,
I'm injured type of thing. Yeah, like you're an ad well dude,
Like obviously Lufy is really strong, but you could get up. I think
was like what a bitch? I think was full of shit right now?
No, I hope so. I hope so because definitely, uh, if
we get don't get his backstory explaining why he just keeps doing this horrible stuff
even though it bothers him, And if he doesn't change one of those two,
then I think Kle was a miss this this arc. I think Oda
didn't do right by him. It might not we might not get the backstory
and the feeling now, but it might happen. Yeah, as long as
we eventually get it. But it has been emphasized this arc. So I
hope we get it this arc. Yeah, there's a lot to be done.
I feel like there's always like with everything that what it does It's like
we need ten more fucking backstories. We need ten more reveals a backstory and
answered three more questions. Its like I need a backstory of that guy in
that guy's backstory. Yeah. As much as I sometimes complain about Oda teasing
us and then not like giving us the answers, at least it's not fucking
Georgia R. R. Martin, No exactly. Yeah, he doesn't take
those long breaks three weeks. We could live with that. Yes. Did
you guys notice that there was one chapter that wasn't fully like properly colored or
probably Yeah? I remember that. Yeah, yeah, it was fixed later
on. Yeah, not on VIZ. I always eating on VIZ today and
it was still all it'll be fixed for the volume for sure, But yeah,
no, I mean that was interesting just because Oda seemed superhuman for so
long, like being able to get everything out perfectly. So I do think
that that's not shocking considering like how much he's done for how long. But
it was crazy to see that for the first time because I, as far
as I know, that's never happened before. Mm hmmm. Yeah, So
like what I was kind of like totail on the weekly thing should can happen.
I think it was. Yeah, I think they didn't have the time
to do it properly then, But that's just an answer that they gave.
We don't really know the truth. Yeah, who knows. There can always
be like family emergency, there could be something exactly exactly. At least we're
not getting too gushy chapters. Yeah. I mean, at the end of
the day, Oda is the goat. Yeah, And I want to say,
like anim as like how long you know, and not even that Animac
wants it to finish, but he kind of like brought up that idea or
that argument. But dude, this is ongoing already the best selling manga of
all time, Like why stop? You know what I mean? I mean,
I don't want it to go forever. I don't want I don't want
to go forever. I don't want it to become a simile point at some
point if you're driving it out on purpose because it's selling well, then And
I don't think Oda will because he always underestimates how long it'll take, and
then as he's writing it ends up being longer. There's more he ends up
needing to tell. So I don't think any part of Oda is like I'm
dragging this out for money. I'm driving this out for showing and jump because
they're pressuring me. I think it's all about him trying to finish it to
the best visibility and then thinking it'll be over sooner, but then the story
just takes him to another place, you know. Yeah, And I would
rather it take multiple more years and like we get the proper backstories and answers
to the mystery rather than just like, oh, it's a war after this.
Yeah, I want the ending. ODA wants that. That's what I
want, And if it's longer or shorter, I'll accept it. But if
it's longer, I'm not complaining. If it's dragged out, I'm not complaining.
I'm sure. Tweeted like I don't want five years battles. I don't
want important battles to be off screen. Yeah. Same, I don't want
anything to be off screened. I want all the things I think I called
like four years ago, five years ago. Now, I tweeted that one
piece will finish in twenty twenty seven save this tweet, and I can't find
the tweet, But twenty twenty seven, I believe it's my call or twenty
twenty eight. I can't remember, yeah, honestly seven. It is hard
to do now. But in Oda saying twenty twenty five, is he still
saying that or did he just say that years ago? I don't know where
you can even because he said five years ago in five years at one point.
But I feel like he always makes those guesses and he always proves himself
wrong. Like even he was explaining that he was thinking of a way of
not going to l Bath, but then he ended up deciding to go there
anyways, So he had a potential ending that didn't feature l Bath, but
then he decides to go there. Yeah, we're not going to Albaf so
no, exactly. He technically could have avoided it, like by having all
the like the what they call the giants, meet them on egg Ed and
then meet them on the next island, but just makes sense for the next
island to be Elbath exactly. So, And and the fact that he went,
Okay, whatever, let's go to Albath anyways the characters want to go
there. I think that that shows he's not committed to ending when he said
he then did it at all costs. He's committed to the story. The
characters and where they take him. See. I want to go back and
rewatch Little Garden now, just to see the fight between Dory and Broggy,
because one thing we didn't talk about in this is that Dory and Broggy have
like memories of or like they passed down knowledge, similar to the Kuma's ancestors.
Yeah. Yeah. The giants also, like the Buccaneers, have knowledge
about Nika about Nika as well, and they have like sun based attacks in
blocks and stuff. Yeah, and like Sun's sun shield and ship. So
so yeah, Nika is a clearly an important facet in like Vike in the
Viking elbap history as well, which is why I think Albaf will be a
good place to go to for more reveals about the ancient kingdoms. Yeah,
I gotta ask you guys, make sense. I gotta ask you guys something.
So it's been brought up in the one Piece community. Also the fact
that it seems like the Giants are way stronger than they were on the previous
time, Like Lufy met them right when they were dueling on what was the
island's name, Little Garden. Yeah, so what do you guys think about
that? Do you think like they were just tired, they weren't working together.
How strong they were, Like, I don't know how to power scale
that shit. Yeah, because that's something like they were sort of you know,
defeated with wax to an extent, and then now they're like blocking attacks
from Goto. Say, well, they had weakened each other exactly, fighting,
Yeah, constantly over the course of how many years, But they had
weaken each other prior to the Little Guarden, that would be my explanation.
And even in the end, their tacks were strong enough to like part the
water and cut a fish, a fish in half from a distance like that
is way stronger than Lufy's gorol and like the straw hats at that time.
Yeah, so like the goro was not capable of doing that at Little Garden.
I concur and I think part of it is the fact that you have
them working against each other, tiring themselves out, versus when they work together,
it's a whole different can of worms. It's more than like the sum
of its parts. And yeah, that was a glimpse, like you said,
when they defeated the big fish, them working together rather than against each
other. And we saw that again when they took down kids entire crew except
Kid, which was hilarious. And then, uh, now what they go
to say, like, I feel like the feet that they pulled at the
end of Little Garden matches more similarly to like what Zoro did after the time
skip mm hmm. Yeah, No, that's just something I saw brought up
in the community. So I just wanted to see how you guys looked at
him. I would love to go back and rewatch the art you there.
I think, I think, I think that's been a good podcast. I'm
here. Yeah, I think a lot of interesting and exciting stuff is happening
now. I'm really interested about to see about Emu and Emu's Devil Fruit and
the connection to the Gorse devil Fruit or powers and why like the portals,
for example, those dark Magic portals, they seem way more open than anything
else we've seen in One Piece, because you know, the whole thing about
One Piece is you have to sail the whole world and the Grand Line,
and it's a treacherous journey. And these guys just teleport across the world in
seconds. That's not just like something to overlook. Yeah, because Van auger
is teleportation is limited compared to that, and we still think it's like awesome,
and yeah, these just make that look like a joke. So yeah,
so that's something to keep an eye on. Obviously, black Beard crew
Is is definitely keep an eye on Shanks Elbaf. What's gonna happen, what's
gonna be revealed? Fucking the Yeah, that's what you know. That's what
I'm saying. There's something special about these guys because it's like they're almost like
in Full Metal Alchemists, like the different Sins or something like, when there's
like this connection between them, and I don't think they could teleport anywhere by
themselves, but I think the fact that like if one somewhere he can summon
the others, I think there's some kind of connection between them that to me
leads me to believe that they don't each have individual devil fruits and it could
be like an EMU bestowed thing. But we'll see, we'll see what happens.
Yeah, yeah, I think that's all plausible and interesting. Yeah.
I think this is a good podcast. I see you again, hopefully in
less than six months. Yeah, really try to do whatever you at least
every six months. You can check out the anime vision. I think you
guys are still doing that. Yep, yep. You can check out the
Rank Cafe. We we are still doing Rank and we're also doing like a
D and D campaign as part of Rank of fe my first time ever playing
DND. Briggs is doing the Dungeon Mastering and it's been awesome. Teching is
with us as well and Truck Johns, so it's been great. And I
had a question chat about doing a Borto origin, Like, I don't have
immediate plans to do it. I'm not gonna say no, but it's a
possible get that every animated version episode. I don't I don't have media plans
for it, but I'm not gonna say never say never. Do it.
We'll see is Borto still ongoing or the finished No, it's on Borto,
you could say, quote unquote is finished. But Borto two vortexas to Blue
Vortex's is like now Naruto shippud that sort of thing happening that is going on,
Yeah, exactly, so it could potentially save it. So we'll see
what happens. And yeah, there's the only benefit of doing in the brow
of version would be like, guys can make Borto content on your YouTube channel.
No, I mean like either way. Yeah, if there's an interesting
Borto chapter, like, I'll try to cover it whether we do the podcast
or not, because I'm not that well you you are, you are got
it. Yeah, I'm pretty much caught up. But I mean, the
Baron Mode Naruto stuff was was hyped as Fox, So if if Borto two
Vortexas can do something like that, that would be cool. All right,
Animac wrap it up, yep, yep, thank you guys, and until
next time whenever that is he has based coup