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guest for the evening, please help
us. Welcome Cliff Cliff. How are

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you doing? Brother? All right? How you doing today? George good?

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It's really great to have you on. We've been you know, it's

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been like hurting cats trying to schedule
everybody, and I'm so happy we were

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able to get you scheduled, and
you know, we got a lot more

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people to get going. But I
finally we had some good chats back in

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fourth And before we get into your
story, why don't you go ahead and

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introduce yourself to the audience. Hello, everyone, my name's Cliff Schmidt.

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I grew up in Boston, Massachusetts. Excuse me for my accidents. I

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know it's pretty thick, but I
hope everyone can understand me. I'll try

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my best to speak clearly nice.
So first of all, i'd like to

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ask people, how did you find
the podcast? So I was listening to

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The fact Hunter. I was into, you know, conspiracy theories, and

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I found The fact Hunter and I
loved it. I loved you layout you

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know your voice, you know,
I just it's easy to listen to.

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So I was listening to The fact
Hunter a lot. And then, you

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know, when I did all the
conspiracy theories, you know, I had

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a friend and he talked about flat
earth and that I found out you had

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a flatter once I was like,
let me just give it a try.

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So that's how I got onto a
podcast. So okay, so you're listened

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to the by the way, thank
you so much for listening to that.

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Um, had you like come across
flat Earth before? And it was it

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one of those things where he kind
of rolled your eyes and said, well,

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that's that's a little too far down
the rabbit hole for me. Or

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is it something that kind of maybe
piqued your interest but you just weren't ready

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to go down that hole yet.
So when I was into the when I

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was into the other conspiracies, and
I realized what this world really was.

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When my friend who also is you
know, conspiracy there the Truta M.

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David Bonden, my best friend,
UM, he had bring up flat Earth

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and at first because of the program, and when he brang it up to

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me, I was like, Uh, Dave, you're a little I don't

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know, I'm not I don't think
I'm ready there. And even though I

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didn't, I don't trust nothing anymore
that you know, mainstream says, I

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still had walls up, you know, with the flat Earth. That's interesting.

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Uh. Does Dave listen to the
podcast? Um? He doesn't yet.

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You know, he kind of has
his own people who listens to tell

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him to listen. He kind of
likes listening to his own people. Yeah,

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everybody has their their their little group
they listened to with the podcast.

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Tell us a little bit about your
journey to the truth. Um, you

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know, how old were you when
he started to think, you know,

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something's a little wrong here. And
then what was kind of the first couple

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of will use, for lack of
a better term, conspiracy theory? Did

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you first? Uh? You know
what, rabbit hold you get down first?

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So it's funny because when I finally
did, um have my experience with

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flat earth and have my experience?
Um, I thought back and I remember

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in second grade, I remember actually
questioning why didn't people in Australia fall off

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globe? Like I remember asking my
teacher I didn't understand, like if they're

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upside down, why would they not
fall, you know? And they were

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like, oh, it's gravity or
whatever they said, and I kind of

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just moved on. But I remember
a questioning it then. And so a

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little quick history about myself. I
grew up in Boston, mass self Boston,

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Massachusetts, and it's a tough Irish
Catholic neighborhood. And I was always

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like a really good kid in like
I had a big heart and I wasn't

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afraid to show my feelings even though
everyone around me they you know, they

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had to have this you know,
mask on and always be a tough guy

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and whatever. And I remember,
you know, question to myself. I

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would ask God, like why,
you know, why am I weak or

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something? Not that I was weak, but I just was emotional. And

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so what happened was so yeah,
So I grew up and I used to

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get bullied, and at some point
around thirteen, I was like I had

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enough because you know, I'm like, why am I the nice guy?

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But everyone's always trying to bully me. So I realized if I just stood

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up for myself and you know,
stood up for myself, people would leave

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me alone. So I ended up
becoming like a tough person, you know,

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in my area. And not that
I would bully, you know,

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I would stick up with bullies,
and if someone would try bullying me,

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you know, I would come on
vicious because I just didn't like that type

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of person. So I'll tie that
all into the flat earth. But so

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then I grow up, and like
I said, me and my friends were

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we were born again Christians, and
we were going down different rabbit holes,

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and he was down his and we
started on completely different spaces, but we

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both wound up to God and so
he was, you know, trying to

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get me on the flat earth thing. He's like, Cliff, just check

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it out, listen to some videos, and I was like all right.

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So then when I started listening to
y'all show the Flat Earth files, you

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had David weiss On, and I
started believing. I still wasn't hooked,

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and so I called my friend Dave. I said, I'm starting to believe

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this flat earth stuff. So he
said, come down today, and well,

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I want to show you this video. So I'm like okay. So

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I take the train an hour in
and he shows me the GoPro video and

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we're sitting in his house. He
showed me the video. I see the

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rocket, it's going up and you
hear it hit something think, and it's

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still spinning, but it's just spinning
in place. And then the GoPro rocket

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kind of turned sideways and boom,
there's the mooning sun right there, you

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know, not millions of miles away, it's right there in the firmament.

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And it blew my mind. Like
I started hype of ventilating. And I

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already had like some open awakening experiences
where my mind was blown. But this

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was kind of like the cherry On
talk, like this connected it all for

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me in my brain, and I
started getting hot. I was like,

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we gotta go outside. So we
leave his house. We go to this

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little side street near his house,
and all of a sudden, the only

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way I could explain it, is
this bright light, all encompassing light,

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and it makes me emotional, and
I realized I was in the presence of

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God. I felt the love that
I never felt ever in my life.

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It was all encompassing. I felt
no fear, and it was just the

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strongest love I've ever felt. And
I realized it was in front of God,

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and I was like, God,
I'm not worthy. And I turned

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away, and you know, I'm
thinking to myself and my Cliff, Gods

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in front of you, like turn
around. So I turn around. And

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I was just in this bright,
bright light, you know, this all

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encompass and loved and it was just
it was it was something. It was

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one of the best experiences in my
life, you know, other than having

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my daughter. And I know I
was in the presence of God at that

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moment, and I knew, you
know, flat Earth was real, and

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it was just a remarkable experience.
Yeah, you're you're that is just a

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beautiful story and your experience. UM. I have gotten so many emails from

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listeners. UM that really resonate kind
of the same as what you just said.

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It is life changing. And you
know, when I went down some

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of the other rabbit holes, I
felt further and further away from the matrix.

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But flat earth breaks the matrix and
it ex poses the deceit of Satan

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and you realize how close God is. And uh, you know this book

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I'm reading the Doctrine of the shape
of the flat Earth. He says the

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same thing people always says, Well, why is it so important whether it's

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a ball or it's flat. I
still have to go to work tomorrow,

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I still have to pay my bills. But when when you realize that you

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are not an accident, that you're
put here for a purpose, and God

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is right above you, it makes
all the difference in the world. What

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are your thoughts about that? I
agree with you, And um, I'm

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going to back up a little.
So when when I about twelve years ago

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I started getting to truth the stuff, um, and then like three years

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ago, right before COVID, I
was going down these rabbit holes, and

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sadly, I started on one of
the you know, the child trafficking things.

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Yeah, no, no, you're
fine. I just said, that's

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a brutal one. That's it's hotbreaking. When I got into that and I

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realized, you know, what Hollywood
has to do with it and all those

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people that so many people idolize,
it made me sick, George, and

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I felt helpless because I, you
know, like I said, I don't

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like people getting picked on, and
children are the most vulnerable people on this

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planet, and that people let this
happen because of money or because they idolize

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people that they think are great,
but they're really terrible people. And when

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I was down that rabbit hole,
I almost had a nervous breakdown. And

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then COVID hit, and it was
just I was in a bad place.

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So when I got to the God
through all that and then had the flat

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Earth experience, and I, like
you said, when I seeing God and

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I realized the final peace, then
I let all that other stuff go because,

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like you said, we are special, but we're not, you know.

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And then during that COVID time,
I was into like ancient aliens,

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and then I started believing like well, if there's space, there's no God.

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And I was just in a dark
place. And the truth is,

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you know, the firmaments above us. God's above the firmament, and we

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are special. There was no big
bang, there is no space. You

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know, it's just nonsense. And
people, it's just like the matrix.

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When you try to tell them,
they get they defended, like because that

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they've been, you know, brainwashed
since we were children. You know,

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you see the globe on every movie
we watch, and they have it everywhere,

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and you know, I feel for
them because you know, they just

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can't see outside the box. They
don't want to look at it open mindedly,

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no matter you know, how much
information you show them. You show

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them experiments like Dave's wife's experience experiment
where he has a string from it like

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a kitchen table to something and it
shows different views with the light. I

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mean that one is such a good
experiment because it shows you that it's just

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the sun looks like exciting, but
it's really not. It's going in a

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circle or you know sun type of
circle, you know, and that was

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a great experiment. And you know
with the camera the P ninety x or

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whatever it is, and you know, you think the ship goes down in

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the you know, but it's really
not. It's just out of sight.

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You know, which one I really
like that that I've come to gravitate too

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lately. Have you ever seen the
one where he took a picture of this

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hallway. I don't know if it
was in a school or an old church,

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but it was like this one hundred
and fifty foot long hallway, and

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you see the it is exactly like
the horizon. The farther away it gets,

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the closer it becomes, and it
really kind of explains why it you

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know, our perception can only see
so far. Exactly, Yeah, exactly,

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And you know, go ahead,
Bunny, No, I was gonna

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say, um, you know,
and it all really tied together, you

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know, the flat earth and you
know a lot of the other conspiracies.

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You know, it really all ties
together, like with the vaccines and stuff.

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Your past guest Larry who came on, Yeah, and he told the

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story about how his son was speaking
and happy and laughing and then he got

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the shots, you know, and
then he stopped talking. And you know,

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my heart really goes out to Larry. Larry, we love you,

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and you know, we pray for
your son. Every night. But that

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happened to my daughter, and she
was a happy little baby and she was

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talking, giggling, and then she
went and got those shots and she came

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back. She didn't have any look
on her face, she had no expression,

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she didn't talk. Luckily, after
a month she came out of it,

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you know. And I really feel
for Larry, you know, because

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I couldn't even imagine if she never
started talking again. And you know,

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I tried bringing that up to people, and you know, they don't want

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to hear it. Oh, you're
anti VAXXA. It's like, no,

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I lived it. I seen my
daughter stopped talking for a whole month,

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no expressions, no, no laughs. It's scary and it's sad. And

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you know when you realize these evil
people they don't care about us, you

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know. And I you know,
it's principalities and it's spiritual warfare. You

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know. They want us sick,
they want us dumb, you know,

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and they want us dead one hundred
percent. The very first line on the

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Georgia guidestones is they want to keep
the world's population at five hundred million with

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perpetual balance with nature. And they're
trying their best with endless wars and use

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these poisonous vaccines they put in people's
body the way they treat cancer in my

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opinion, and you know, we
can have a conversation on that another day.

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But that's just my personal belief that
the how they program us to believe

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that some of the things that grow
naturally in our front yard, um,

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that can heal us. We spray
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and we live in a completely backwards
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with the Georgia guidestones, you know, one stones started really people started becoming

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away of what they were. All
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throws a bomb out the window and
blows them up. And no, someone

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blow off a bomb, but no, we're just going to demolish it and

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call it a day. It's like
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nothing to ever be heard of again. Yep, yep. It's uh,

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it's mind blowing. And you know, when I had that experience of with

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God and I started reading my Bible, um, you know, I came

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about came on Matthew five eight,
blessed other pure hot for they will see

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God. And when I was little
and I used to think there was something

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wrong with me because I had a
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people, like the Irish Mob was
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lot of tough guys, but there
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crazy dudes. And you know,
I eventually had got to a point

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where I defended myself and I was
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I remember doubt and like, why
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weak, and why am I afraid? And you know, there was not

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wrong with me. You know,
I was actually blessed. I had a

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big hot when everyone else around me
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were insane, and you know,
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but in reality it was a blessing. And you know that I realized

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that after having my experience and when
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know, like you said, people
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it up to them too, the
same thing, what does it matter?

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One hundred percent matters because a lie
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make people think, well, if
we live in this ever experience in universe,

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that there mustn't be a god.
I fell for it first for a

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period of time where that's what that's
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ancient Aliens they actually built the pyramids, and they can't be a god because

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you know, and it's it's all
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you know, the fallen Angels,
the Nephelum, they built all those structures,

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and then God washed the planet out
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I absolutely believe, you know,
flat earth matters. I truly feel it

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in my heart like I seen God
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so to me at one hundred percent
matters. Was there one particular when

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you were watching the video? I
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mentioned it yet. Was there one
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what there was an ice wall or
seeing too far where it just completely clicked

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for you and that's when it really
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evidence that kind of overwhelmed you?
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was, I was on the fence. I was starting to believe. But

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again, that brainwashing is so thorough
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when you see it, you still
don't want to see it. And seeing

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that GoPro hit the firmament at seventy
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not moving up no more, like
it blew my mind like you know,

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instant awakening, you know, seeing
God it was it was wild and now

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it's so clear, like I see
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know, when we watched movies now
with discernment, they're almost comical, you

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know, they rub it in our
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that doo doo doo. It's like, how do you not see that?

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Like, no one watched a movie
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look at that, check the four
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the movie. Yeah yeah, there's
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so yeah, I forgot. The
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And it's funny. They tell you
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sky there, that's two hundred and
thirty nine thousand miles away, But the

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other object up in the sky that
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ninety two million, seven hundred and
fifty thousand miles further. And like people

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and including myself, and again I
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that guy too. But the fact
that that is such a long way and

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we just simply, you know,
take it and run with it. It

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really goes to how they have formed
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Mom and dad goes to work,
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Doctor Nations system of bell rings.
We moved to the next class bell rings.

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We moved to the next class,
and for thirteen years, if you

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include kindergarten, of which our guests
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we really don't come out with a
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exactly, I honestly, because me
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get my daughter a few days a
week, and I truly given my life

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to her to be trying to raise
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had happened and I was coming out
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and you know, I started reading
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fearful of my daughter. Like having
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it'd be a little easier, but
having a little girl. When I had

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my daughter, it changed my life
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know me and everything will be all
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worry, and I don't worry no
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says to me, Dad, is
there anything I could do with you wouldn't

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love me? And I go,
no, honey, Pumpkin, you could

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do something that I might be disappointed, but I would never stop loving you.

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I don't know. Something in my
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loves us, each and every one
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own path. And you know,
I truly believe, you know, he's

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trying to wake us all up.
And because I do, I think flatters.

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I think it's you know, it's
the biggest lie in history, you

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know, indeed, it is one
of the biggest lies. And it has

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helped you know, it's been used
against us in so many ways, and

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I'm sure there's ways we haven't even
considered yet. I mean, just the

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fact that our tax money goes to
NASA and that whole mess, and who

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knows where much of that money goes
to, maybe someone the things you were

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talking about that you were looking into
prior to COVID, you know, because

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there's only so many companies that make
this type of thing, right, there's

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not if I'm a government contractor and
I say I need this contract fulfilled,

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I need one hundred loaves of bread
every week delivered here, I'll probably get

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one hundred or two hundred bids.
However, if if I require a certain

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door for the isss, there's only
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that can furnish that. So of
course you can charge just an astronomical amount

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of money. The company takes the
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big, you know, it's it's
incredible that the way that they're able to

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get over on us and we're complicit
and it we don't we don't ever demand

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accountability, yelp and go ahead.
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thing. It's like it's such a
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back to you know, I found
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perfect, but I think the republic
they built was truly a great thing,

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and I think they were trying to, you know, set us up for

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success and you know, growing up
the way I did and standing up for

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myself and you know, standing up
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there is that side of me,
you know where you know it's so

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hard because you want to be like
I had enough, I'm gonna stand up,

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you know. But the way they
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it's like where do you stop?
You know, where would you stop?

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You know? It's I really stopped
trying to think about it that way

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because I listen, I would love
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and you know, fight for freedom
and get these sickles out. I just

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I after reading Revelation, I just
don't think it's an option. I kind

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of think, you know, I
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I kind of think we're on this
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to where the Bible says it's going
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mean? Yeah, I completely understand
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on one side of me and I'm
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think there's other options. I think
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start using cash, pull our children
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this day and age. It's just
quite difficult because the thing I worry about

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the most is, you know,
I don't want my if it's this bad

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now, I don't want my children
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of look around the world, what's
going on, there's a story I think

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in Utah just a million cricket showed
up the other day. You read these

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kind of things like, well,
maybe it is. And because they're certainly

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not hiding their evil anymore. And
I felt, and I'm not trying to

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be dramatic, I'm just being honest
here. And I want your opinion on

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this as well, because I usually
bring this up to each guest. I

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felt a seismic shift almost in the
world, like the world completely changed when

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COVID kicked off, but like Satan
took off his mask, like I'm not

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he said, like I'm not hiding
anymore, almost like this is endgame.

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I'm throwing everything that I have at
you. Do you feel that way at

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all with COVID and everything since and
before you started, before I started listening

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to your podcast. That's exactly how
I felt. I would say it to

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my friend Dave. I'm like,
I'm like, they overplayed their hand with

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the covid and they can't too many
people know what they're doing. They can't

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go back to like where they was
doing its slide hand and you know,

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being they played their hand, and
I felt the same thing. You know,

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something changed, you know, they
they're trying. I feel like they're

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trying to get you know, these
generations of plans between the Gates and the

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Rockefellas, they're trying to get it
done soon. I believe by twenty thirty,

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you know, Agenda twenty thirty.
I completely agree with you. I

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think that is the end game.
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controllers, for lack of a better
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it and maybe they know, maybe
they know this is end game. Uh,

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well, we'll see what happens.
How did covid um affect your life?

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I know? Uh in I mean
it affected everybody's to to occur to

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a certain extent. Excuse me,
um Some people have affected their way of

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life, some with their children and
education. How did it affect yours?

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Um? So I just want to
say something real quick. Um, I

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don't mean like I don't want to
go grab a gun and hurt people.

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What I what I was saying is
I'm almost jealous of like the people of

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the revolution. We yeah that option. It's I feel like less of a

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man that you know obvious. I
wouldn't ever want to hurt anyone this in.

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I don't want to hurt anybody,
but you know, part of me

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kind of wishes it was somewhat like
them, where we could stand up and

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be men and take care of the
week of people. But no, I

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completely get it. Because before you
go no, no, before you go

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on that, I wanted to mention
you know that kind of correlates to what

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you said. As a youth,
you were kind, you were you were

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very goodhearted, but then people started
to take advantage of you. And I

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used to say, as an NCO
in the army to my soldiers, because

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I was the same kind of guy, I said, don't let my kindness.

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Don't don't take that as being a
pushover because I had my line and

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they knew it once they crossed it. And that's kind of you know what

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I feel like. We're all good
people most of American. Percent of Americans

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are good people. They just want
to take care of their family and have

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a little money left over to have
a little bit of fun. But you

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can only pick you can only poke
a bear so many times, exactly in

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people. Because I was a little
chubby, and you know, when I

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finally got to that point where I
had enough, you know, people would

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say something and try to insult my
clothes, or they would come too aggressive

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and I would just knock them out, like I didn't want to play the

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games. I wasn't gonna call each
other names. And they'd be like,

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why did you do that? I'm
like, well, why were you being

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aggressive to me? Now I'm the
bad guy because you were trying to insult

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me or make me feel weak because
you thought I was just quiet. I'm

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a nice guy. But no,
you ain't gonna treat me. You know,

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you're not going to take advantage of
me. And you know, people

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eventually realized they can't take advantage of
me. And you know a lot of

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people respected me for that because I
wasn't afraid to tell my feelings and they

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knew I wouldn't take any you know, shi t so, but yeah,

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yeah, so COVID hit, and
um I was. I worked for the

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state. I worked for the fueling
the buses in Boston and I had been

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there seven years. I just got
seniority. And then they started with the

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COVID vaccine that it might be manded
to and you know, I was fighting

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with management and the union because you
know, the union was mad because I

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wouldn't vote Democrat. You know,
I did kind of fall for the Trump

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thing, and part of me still
hopes that God is working to Trump,

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but who knows. You know,
I know he's friends with all those people.

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But you know they were telling me, hey, you gotta vote Democrat.

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I'm like, you ain't telling me
how to vote, dude, Like

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it's my vote. So the union
was mad at me, and then all

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of a sudden, Management started with
me, and you know, I was

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stuck in the middle and COVID was
going on, and I was afraid I

411
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.839
was going to bring COVID home to
my daughter who has asthma, and I

412
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:41.440
was going down these doc rabbit holes, and you know, I was lost,

413
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.960
you know I really was. And
you know, God's changed my change

414
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.559
me. You know, I did
one hundred and eighty point turn, and

415
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.599
you know I'm grateful today. You
know, I don't have a lot of

416
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.000
money. I work paycheck to paycheck, but I'm able to be a dad,

417
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:03.119
you know, I'm able to pray
to God without any worry of you

418
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.559
know, you know, because a
lot of Christians across the world, they

419
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:08.960
can't just read the Bible. In
China, you know, they have little

420
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:14.799
pieces of one little you know,
piece of the Bible and they read that

421
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.519
and they got to do it on
the secret. And I'm grateful I don't

422
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.599
have to yet, you know.
And we have a lot to be grateful

423
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.599
for in this country. And as
bad as it is, there's you know,

424
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.000
there's a lot of good. And
I do also agree agree like Dan

425
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.960
Bongino and a lot of people are
doing, you know, starting a secular

426
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:40.039
you know economy, and I think
that is changing things. I think that's

427
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:44.200
help. And like with the bu
Budweiser thing, you know, if you

428
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.039
hurt their wallets, things are gonna
change. You know. That's the only

429
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.839
way to make these narcissists, you
know, change their ways is you just

430
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.000
can't support them, you know.
And it's hot, and you know they

431
00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.160
got their fingers and everything. Google
this that you know, you just do

432
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:04.640
what you can and you know,
stay close to that Bible. And you

433
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.880
know, I went from almost having
a nervous breakdown to having no fear.

434
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:14.279
You know, I rely on God. I read the word, I pray,

435
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.319
and whatever happens happens, you know, and I'll try to be a

436
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:21.279
good Christian to the end. And
you know, I really think that's all

437
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.640
I can do, indeed, and
I think it's very important. And I

438
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.240
mentioned this all the time, at
least I tried to. There are times

439
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.640
you can't constantly stay down the rabbit
hole twenty four seven three sixty five because

440
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:37.039
you can have a mental breakdown,
because it can be depressing. Like there's

441
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.119
some kind of interesting rabbit holes to
go down that don't really stretch out,

442
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:45.039
like the Paul McCartney, Billy Shears, Marilyn Monroe and these type of things.

443
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.359
But there's a lot of there's a
lot of dark rabbit holes out there.

444
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.839
I had a young lady on about
a month ago from from Texas,

445
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:57.599
and what goes on down there,
there's you know, our world is full

446
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:01.440
of a lot of darkness, and
sometimes you just gotta put yourself out,

447
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:06.319
spend some time with God and even
go do some normy stuff like watch a

448
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:13.000
baseball game or something. Absolutely and
it's funny because you know I try.

449
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.160
You know, I tried telling my
daughter about flat earth and space, and

450
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:21.839
you know it's hot because she has
her mom who doesn't really believe. You

451
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.599
know, she thinks I'm crazy,
and you know she's torn, and I

452
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.319
don't want to have it. You
know, she's like, yeah, I

453
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.880
feel torn. I'm like, listen, I don't want you to feel torn.

454
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.559
You know, your mom's teaching you
what she believes. I'm teaching what

455
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:37.240
I believe. Don't stress, fear
nothing. When you get older, you

456
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:42.000
could recome to the stuff and come
to your own conclusion. But you know,

457
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.359
I was explaining to her, you
know, you know the Carnival ride

458
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:51.680
that spins in a circle in the
floor, drop the wall, so that

459
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.279
thing only goes I don't know whatever, to sixty miles an hour. I

460
00:33:54.279 --> 00:34:00.200
said, Pumpkin, think about it. What do you feel base that ride?

461
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.519
I showed her the ride because the
Connival is here. I said,

462
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:06.559
Look, that's only going sixty miles
an hour, and this stuck to the

463
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:10.159
wall. I go. The Earth's
allegedly spinning at a thousand miles an hour.

464
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.840
Like, does it feel that way? Why aren't we you know,

465
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.800
against the wall? Oh well gravity, okay, well then why how the

466
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:22.199
butterfly's flying? You know? And
I don't want to overwhelm her, but

467
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:28.000
I feel it's my duty as her
dad to at least give her the truth

468
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:32.440
in one day. I truly believe
she will come back to the true sure,

469
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:36.800
and you know, she's learning.
And we do the same with our

470
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.000
thirteen year old. We say,
hey, this is what's being taught in

471
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:44.320
the public schools, and this is
what we believe, and we don't really

472
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.239
hide to anything in our conversations.
And she knows. It's funny you mentioned

473
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:53.199
that ride the rotors. I did
the same thing. I looked to see

474
00:34:53.199 --> 00:35:00.840
how fast it does. Thirty three
revolutions per minute. Can't make it up.

475
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.880
Oh man, I love it.
Yeah, it came back, and

476
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:09.159
I guess some German guy demonstrated it
in october Fest back at late forties,

477
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:15.960
early fifties. Oh yeah, but
I just saw I saw thirty three revolutions

478
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.079
permitted. I was like, oh, good grief, I did see that.

479
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.440
And I was like, all right, how many mouth or hours that?

480
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:27.800
Yeah, And it's interesting you were
talking earlier about when you were younger

481
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.079
in Australia. I would always think, like, you know, we're spending

482
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:35.079
that fast. It can hold water
and people to it. But you have

483
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.639
a camp fire that the smoke just
kind of goes up in the air.

484
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:44.840
The butterflies no problem getting off the
ground. It's just, uh, it

485
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.599
is the biggest I don't want to
use that word on the air, but

486
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:58.079
uh, mind, man, it
is. Once you pull out and you

487
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.239
know there's nights. I sit there
and say, my goodness, when you

488
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.920
when you think about the gravity story
and all the other things that go along

489
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.159
with heliocentrism, how we're hurtling through
space for the last four and a half

490
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:14.840
billion years and this ever, like
you said, ever expanding space, you

491
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:19.639
really realize that this is all about
hiding God and how evil it is.

492
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.559
And the people who came up with
these theories they were all Jesuits, you

493
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:31.159
know. And it's so I wanted
to bring something up. So in the

494
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:37.760
Bible, you know, it explains
what the firmament is. And I learned

495
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:45.119
this somewhere. So firmament in Hebrew
means rock keia. So I looked it

496
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:51.280
up and it says the vault of
heaven or firmament. We got it by

497
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:57.280
Hebrews as solid in supporting waters above
it yea, and relate it now.

498
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.920
Rakia, found in number sixteen thirty
eight. He Brews number in seventeen three,

499
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:07.079
refers to the process of hammering metals
into sheets, you know, and

500
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.880
it's it's so obvious now, and
like I get how, you know,

501
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.559
I still didn't want to believe it, even though I already knew about you

502
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:21.039
know, the politicians, and you
know, it still took a while for

503
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.679
me. But once you get it, you know you're out of the matrix.

504
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:29.760
You know you took whatever color bill
was, the red pill or blue

505
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.440
bill, and you know you're awake, and you you can't go back.

506
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:38.840
There is no pretending anymore, Yeah, no matter how hard you try.

507
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:43.920
And there's been days when you know, I'm watching a movie and I catch

508
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.039
myself and I say, good grief. I just can't even sit back and

509
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:52.760
relax and watch a movie anymore.
I've watched The Truman Show fifty times,

510
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:57.679
sister, true, and every single
time I'll catch something different in the background,

511
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:02.280
and I'm I'm never even looking at
the actor's faces. It's just truly

512
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:06.159
amazing, truth, in Hollywood,
lies in the media, and going back

513
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:10.679
to just simple things, believing our
eyes. And that is another one of

514
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:15.360
the things I just kicked myself.
You know, I believe complete strangers tell

515
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.559
me something versus what I can see, what I can hear, what I

516
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.519
can touch. You know, I
walked to the end of my little country

517
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.360
street. Here in my little country
road, I hang a left, I

518
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:28.119
walk about a quarter of a mile
and there's a lake and I sit there

519
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:30.960
and I fish, and you know
what, that water doesn't move an inch,

520
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:37.719
perfectly still. And then somebody made
a great in the emails I read

521
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:42.000
yesterday. He said he came out
to a scar in the morning, had

522
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.239
a little bit of mess on his
windshield. So you know, you click

523
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.079
the windshield fluid and he takes off, and you know how that one bead

524
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:51.599
always comes down that you know,
it misses as he's driving away. Just

525
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.800
that little bit of wind that five
or ten miles an hour was altering the

526
00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:00.800
course of the water. And just
the fact of how asked for going and

527
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:06.320
spinning. It's just all so ridiculous. Yeah, all the numerology with the

528
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:12.440
six six six, Yeah, it's
just and it's funny. So in Boston

529
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:19.159
that in Salem they have this race
it's called the Hell Runs six sixty six,

530
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.360
and they dress up as the devil
and they run around Salem, and

531
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:27.039
you know, it's all these you
know, businessmen and women and they think

532
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.039
it's this harmless thing, and it's
like it just blows my mind. And

533
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:35.400
then shortly after they had this thing
called Satan Cohn. They literally had Satan

534
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.960
con in Boston. And it was
the twenty eighth of April, my daughter's

535
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:46.559
birthday to the thirtieth. The Massachusetts
daily number lottery number that night was one

536
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:52.320
six six six. Like, you
can't make this stuff up. And I

537
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.519
tell people, like it's a coincidence. I'm like, it's not a coincidence,

538
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.320
you know, it's I don't think
Massachusetts had anything to do. But

539
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:05.079
it just shows that there is a
spiritual battle going all around all the time,

540
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:08.480
you know, right right where we
can't see it. You know,

541
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:13.920
I believe, you know, whatever
it is where the spirits, I think

542
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:17.039
this spiritual warfare going on all the
time. You said it was from April

543
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:22.039
twenty eighth to April thirtieth. It
was April twenty eighth to the thirtieth.

544
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:28.599
I believe that's interesting. April twenty
ninth is the I know that date is

545
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:30.519
the one hundred and nineteenth day of
the year, and that backward is nine

546
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:37.079
to eleven. That's interesting, and
I was I had actually written that down.

547
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.079
I wanted to ask you what the
hex going on in Boston because I

548
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:44.800
had seen the satan Con thing and
the last fall on my radio show,

549
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.840
I spent a whole week on all
these hospitals that we're doing Boston. Is

550
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.239
that hospital out there in Boston I
don't remember the name of the hospital is

551
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:59.119
like the leading gender reassignment hospital in
the in the nation, and you know

552
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.519
they do it as young is like
I don't remember the age. I want

553
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:05.519
to misspeak, but it was it
was abhorrent to see what they were doing.

554
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.119
Oh yeah, no, this is
uh, this is a Boston's an

555
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:16.119
evil stronghold. You know, Democratic
for sure. Like um, when I

556
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:22.280
when we were children, right,
we were in the nineties, per capital,

557
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:27.360
we were the poorest white people in
America and you were Irish Catholic.

558
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.880
And it's not that people were necessarily
racist. I mean some people were,

559
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:37.000
it was more of we were Irish
Catholic. This is our neighborhood, you

560
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:38.960
know, and it's even the bad
people. Everyone looked out for each other.

561
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:42.440
You need to milk, sugar,
anything you can knocker on your neighbor's

562
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.079
door. So it wasn't that people
were necessarily hateful. It's we didn't want

563
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:50.639
nobody in our neighborhood, you know. That's more what it was. And

564
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:55.480
what happened was they stopped moving people
into the projects I lived in. And

565
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:01.079
what they did was they were like, well they're ray sist so and then

566
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:06.119
they literally so little kids would get
into a fight, ten year olds,

567
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:10.320
and they threw the whole family out
for what a ten year old did,

568
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:15.559
because they villainized us. And then
they threw all my friends families out.

569
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:20.639
I never you know, I wouldn't
fight people for no reason unless you know,

570
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.079
when I got older, unless I
was being bullied. But it was

571
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:28.400
just sad, you know, and
I see that is what goes on today.

572
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.360
You know. They first they villainize
you, then they take everything from

573
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.679
you. And so when people say
it, I'm like, listen, I

574
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.519
already seen it. All my friends
got thrown out of their homes. You

575
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:43.800
know, we lived in the project's
apartments because of what little kids did.

576
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:46.400
It wasn't nothing vicious. It wasn't
like, oh hey they're different, let's

577
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:51.119
go beat them up. It was
kids playing basketball and it got a little

578
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:54.639
too heat and the fight broke out
and and they threw their whole family out

579
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.199
for that, and you know,
it was hot breaking. You know,

580
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:01.320
a lot of my friends on It's
today because not only did they did that,

581
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:06.159
they flooded, you know, my
neighborhood with drugs. And you know,

582
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:10.119
it's sad, you know, it's
it is. It's terrible. And

583
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.039
I do remember when I was doing
my research on Boston because I was flabbergasted.

584
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:19.480
Um, and it was right on
there, that hospital's website. Everything

585
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.239
they did, they didn't even try
to hide it. But um, that

586
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:28.039
mayor you guys have is just evil. I think her name is Michelle,

587
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:35.800
Michelle Michelle will yep, yep,
and super super progressive and big time socialist

588
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:39.199
Marxist. Well you know where she's
from. She's from Chicago. Oh well

589
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:45.679
that explains, yep, that's she's
from Chicago. And you know, the

590
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:50.920
it's funny because my birthdays made first
you know, the date that they stopped

591
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:55.280
at the Illuminati. That's kind of
funny, that's right, May day,

592
00:43:55.400 --> 00:44:02.599
that's right, seventeen seventy six.
So but yeah, it's it's wild.

593
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.880
I hope people, if you're on
the fence, you know, I hope

594
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:10.079
you. You know you read the
Bible. The Bible will tell you the

595
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:15.119
truth and rarely give it a chance
because it does change your life. And

596
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.800
it is hard. You know,
I don't have a lot of friends,

597
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.280
and when I go to work and
you know, all the chefs of playing

598
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:29.280
this cod game, you know,
I just it's hard for me to you

599
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:31.360
know, I just view the world
different, Like I have all the Boston

600
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:36.679
Sports team's tattooed on my body and
I don't. I don't. I don't

601
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.880
care anymore, Like it's just another
distraction. And why am I gonna love

602
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:45.679
a team that? You know,
It's just I don't know. I just

603
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:49.840
view the world different. You know, my only the only thing I love.

604
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:52.199
You know, I love everybody because
we're all God's children, but my

605
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:58.079
priorities and my daughter in God.
You know, that's awesome. That is

606
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:00.920
great to hear. And you know
that story that you're telling right now,

607
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:05.280
I hear it all the time from
most of the people who come on and

608
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.679
most of the emails. That is
I guess if you want to talk about

609
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:13.119
and it's not really a negative because
there's nothing negative about the love of God

610
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.159
and the truth. Right that there's
the truth and then there's everything else.

611
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:20.159
Right. I want the truth,
no matter how bad it tastes. Right.

612
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:22.719
I don't want you to sugarcoat me
a lie that tastes good. I

613
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.400
just want the truth, no matter
how good or bad it is. But

614
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:30.039
you know, one of the things
that does resonate, and this is one

615
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:34.719
of the things that I need to
work on in brainstorm, is how we

616
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.360
can come together in person because a
lot of people out there feel lonely.

617
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.840
Right. We fall away from our
friends because a lot of our friends that

618
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:45.079
we grow up with, or many
of my friends who I served within the

619
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:50.840
army, and I'm not judging them. They have their distractions and what they

620
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:54.960
do, and I used to have
those same things, right, but now

621
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:59.480
I don't, And you kind of
fall away from those people, and it

622
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:04.800
can be it can be a little
bit lonely, right, and yeah,

623
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.239
be sure, Yeah, But like
for me, I can take a launch

624
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:10.960
hair and set out back. I
don't need a lot of people, but

625
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.559
there's some people who do. And
I think that's a good thing. Like

626
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:16.920
I've said many times, I really
wish I could find a church that I

627
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.199
could resonate with. Have you been
able to, Um, do you go

628
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:23.960
to church? Yes? I have
a church, UM, A couple of

629
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:28.840
towns over that I really like.
Oh good. You know he speaks out

630
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:34.559
against the you know, the government
not in in the ways that he should

631
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:39.280
right and like about Pride Month and
you know he says what you know,

632
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:44.480
the things that I believe, and
so I do like the church that I'm

633
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.800
in. That is fantastic. That's
That's one thing that I hope I can

634
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:50.440
I can find. I'm working on
it, and I will continue to to

635
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:54.840
hunt, even if it's an hour
drive. I'll find one. Um.

636
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:00.320
What else? Did what other things
did you have on your list of things

637
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:01.800
to talk about this evening? And
you've been crushing it. This has been

638
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:09.519
incredible, by the way, UM, Yeah, I think I got most

639
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:15.679
of it. But it's funny too, like with UM because I hear you

640
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:20.760
say big Mike, and I crack
up because I tried doing people that I'm

641
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:22.679
like listen, it's a guy,
and they're like, come on, if

642
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:28.159
you're crazy, I'm like, listen, go watch her on Ellen and you

643
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:32.159
can see her doing jumping Jackson.
I'll leave it there, but you know,

644
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.840
and then you go back and you
see the pitches of when she was

645
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:40.159
a guy, and you know that
comedian who said, yeah, we know

646
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:44.719
she's a trend. And then she
ends up dead, you know, getting

647
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:50.559
plastic surgery. And then the emails
get leaked. I forget who they were,

648
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:55.519
whether they were Hillary's or hillary campaign
manager. Where Obama is talking about,

649
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:00.159
yeah, spend fifty thousand on hot
dogs and pete and send it from

650
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:06.639
chicag It's like, it doesn't take
a lot to figure out what this stuff

651
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:08.719
means. And you know, you
know that's what people say to me,

652
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:13.320
Like you watch videos, like you
think, I go no, But I

653
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:17.360
watch videos, I get ideas.
I run it through my own search and

654
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:22.920
in my own brain and my own
senses and my own discernment, and I

655
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:27.880
come up with what I believe.
But it's I'm not just fallowing George Hobbes

656
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.239
blindly, you know, fall jump
off, fall him off a cliff,

657
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.480
Like no, I listen to what
he says. You know, they make

658
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.480
it like it's this negative thing,
and it's like no, you know a

659
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:42.480
lot of these people, including yourself, are very bright. They do great

660
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:46.880
research. You know, I'm not
just fallowing some you know, stupid YouTuber

661
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:51.719
or something like. It's not that
you know, and people just I don't

662
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:53.400
know, they don't want to wrap
their head around it. And I get

663
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:58.320
it. I was there, you
know, I love sports and I was

664
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:02.199
so of the world, and you
know, I had an ego and all

665
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:07.400
that stuff, and I just don't
know more. You know, God's taken

666
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.599
that, He's softened my heart,
and you know, I get it and

667
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:15.119
all, you know, I just
brave for people because it's just, you

668
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.559
know, there's so much information and
it just it's it's mind boggling that people

669
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.800
can't see it. It is,
indeed, and I think it was actually

670
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:28.000
what you were talking about Joan Rivers. I think it was two months to

671
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.360
the day. I think she mentioned
it right around July the fourth of twenty

672
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:37.199
nineteenth when she made that joke,
and like literally two months to the day

673
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:45.039
later. I think she died on
nine four, twenty fourteen. And again,

674
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:49.559
there's only so many coincidences. Yeah, it's it's crazy. And like

675
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:54.559
Hillary Clinton and her campaign manager,
that guy is so evil. Buddy,

676
00:49:55.119 --> 00:50:00.639
I'm not suicidal, So you know
it's not ma Tomorrow when I'm walking home

677
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:06.480
from work, I'm not suicide.
I'm in good spirits. Yeah, I

678
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:10.519
need to make that annotation more on
my podcasts. My chickens are happy,

679
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:21.039
We're good. Yeahre oh Man,
when you were I know, I kind

680
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:22.599
of mentioned it, but I wanted
to dwell on it a little more.

681
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:30.719
What was the first rabbit hole that
you fell upon? So I'm trying to

682
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.519
remember because it was like fifteen years
ago. Fifteen years ago, I started

683
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.960
having like this gust feeling that I
just seen how that you know, before

684
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:42.840
I even got into any conspiracy,
the way the world was going in our

685
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:49.159
society was going, I just felt
something's off, something's wrong, and I

686
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.239
started I can't remember exactly it was, but you know I got into you

687
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:58.000
know, how their plan was global
warming and how they're gonna use you know,

688
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:04.079
climate to get around the constant Housian
and that kind of where I first

689
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.000
stought it and got into the conspiracies. You know, I love the JFK

690
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:10.320
thing ever since I was little,
because he's from you know, he's from

691
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:16.239
close to it, so we loved
the Kennedy's So I always kind of had

692
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:20.719
that and I always. It's funny
because me and my friend Dave bought and

693
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:25.199
you know my mentor, Um,
we were always the type of guys where,

694
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.840
you know, we when we like
so the Red Sox. We loved

695
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:35.079
the Red Sox, but once they
got real popular and people just jumped on

696
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:37.480
the wagon, we kind of like, uh, I don't I'm not really

697
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:43.199
you know, we really didn't walk
with the crowd. What I'm trying to

698
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.840
say is we we kind of like
walking our own path. So it's funny

699
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:52.159
that you know, you know,
there was hundreds of kids when I grew

700
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:53.599
up, and a lot of them, you know, are in the ground,

701
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:58.440
and you know the few got are
alive and the kids that walked their

702
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:04.960
own path who had gone and you
know, so yeah, I I never

703
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:09.199
really followed the crowd. Yeah,
I'm old enough to remember the eighty six

704
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:14.800
team. Was that the eighty six
Mets where the ball went through Bill Buckner's

705
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.360
leg. I was like, oh
my goodness. And yeah I remember when

706
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.599
Boston and the Cubs too, that
you know, they were that they were

707
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:24.239
always the underdog and then they went
on a roll when it was they weren't

708
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:28.320
the underdogs anymore. And that I
was always the guy. If I just

709
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.679
walked in somewhere to like a restaurant
and a game was on, I will

710
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:36.719
always rooted for the underdog. It
made it more fun. Yeah. And

711
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:38.880
uh you your boy Kurt Shilling.
He was a pitcher on my team.

712
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:42.360
He was a part of my ninety
three Phillies and he went on to have

713
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.280
a legendary game with you guys.
It was so epic. The Blige,

714
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:50.920
I mean we had a one.
It was I mean, we had a

715
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.320
good run. And that was when
I really loved sports. Yeah, we

716
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:58.039
had a great run. The Red
Sox, Patriots, you know, the

717
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.440
Celtics got one, the Bruins.
It is Yeah, sports were good in

718
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:05.480
the town. But like I said
once, once all these fear where the

719
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.280
fans came on, I kind of
was just like, you know, it

720
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:15.239
wasn't fine anymore. Do you know
what saddens me the most about sports today

721
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:17.840
is you you you darn near and
have to take a second mortgage out to

722
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:22.280
go watch a game. Oh for
sure. Especially found way me and my

723
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.880
buddy would talk about the other day, like if you bring you know,

724
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.000
if you had a significant other and
two kids, you know, and the

725
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:35.440
tickets, the hot dogs, I
mean you you're spending the g easy.

726
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.199
That's insane. I haven't been to
a Phillies game thing, I think two

727
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:43.719
thousand and four. It's been close
to twenty years. And I'm going this

728
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.920
Saturday, and by the time this
airs it will be before that. But

729
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:51.599
one ticket. But they're good seats. I'm not they're they're good seats.

730
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:53.639
One hundred and twenty five dollars.
And I me and my buddies back in

731
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.880
the eighties, we used to drive
up my old beat up Ford Galaxy and

732
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:02.280
we'd get in for like three bucks. Oh yeah, And now it's that's

733
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:07.280
the saddest part to me is the
fact that, you know, one of

734
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:08.760
one of the great things I don't
have my dad anymore, but one of

735
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:12.719
the great memories I had as a
child was me and my dad. He'd

736
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.400
come home from work. He was
a maleman and we were thirty minutes away

737
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:19.760
from Veteran Stadium, so he'd we'd
hop in the car and we go up

738
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.800
and watch the ball game. And
you know, those were the days you

739
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:25.079
didn't have to sweat. You know, we need to save up and plan

740
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:28.760
out a trip to a baseball game, because, like you said, it

741
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:32.360
can cost that much money. It's
just sad and everything, you know,

742
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:37.920
everything else in this world is just
out of this world. It's crazy.

743
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:43.880
Even grocery shopping. My goodness,
Oh it's so expensive. Like like,

744
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.159
I'll still watch the Patriots occasionally,
Like, but what I like to do

745
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:51.000
is watch little league is play baseball
because they love the game. You know,

746
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:54.719
I'd rather go watch some little leagues
play Dan go spend eight hundred dollars

747
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:59.760
to go to Fenway Park. Absolutely, I'll still go to high school games.

748
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:01.440
We a couple high school around here. I'll watch high school football,

749
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:05.960
high school soccer, whatever's going on. Because You're right, there's a love

750
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.880
for the game. And I'm not
saying that every professional athlete doesn't love the

751
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:12.440
game, but I think a lot
of them do. Will end up,

752
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.559
you know, because you have to
be, you know, a top athlete

753
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:20.960
in order to keep your to keep
your game up there. But at the

754
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.599
same time, I think they become
more worried about their image and their money,

755
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:29.679
and you know, it is what
it is. Yeah, Well,

756
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:34.679
even like Tom Brady, Like we
love Tom Brady and then you know,

757
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:37.920
pot of me trying of hope that
he wasn't in that circle. You know,

758
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:40.360
like all the right, you know, the elite circle. And then

759
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:45.960
I hear he secretly dating Kim Kardashian
And one day I heard him doing an

760
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:52.039
interview in telling how Gizelle she's a
good witch. Yeah, she does these

761
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:58.920
incantations and these mantras, and she
makes me drink stuff and she has her

762
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:01.800
crystals. And I'm like, is
anyone else he her in that she's she's

763
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:07.519
doing witchcraft like and I was just
like, and that was like the tipping

764
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:09.559
point. I was like, you
know what, I'll watch occasionally, but

765
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:15.920
I just don't care anymore about sports
the people who play it act is you

766
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.320
know, I just know I'm all
set. Yeah, I agree, Um,

767
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:23.119
you're you're spot on with that.
I did have a question for wherever

768
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:27.320
at this down and forgot to ask
when you were talking about uh, Joe,

769
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:29.679
Oh, I know what I wanted
to say about the sports. Um,

770
00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:31.159
it doesn't matter if you're in sports, politics, or Hollywood. If

771
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.000
you're going to get to the top
of the game, you got to be

772
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:37.440
part of the club. That's what
I've come to believe. I agree.

773
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:42.400
Yeah, yeah, Um, what
are your thoughts on RFK Junior? I

774
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:49.440
should say seeing that that's a hord
one because you know he's got an actress

775
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:54.320
wife. He's saying the I do. I almost feel like my first the

776
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:58.960
first way I feel is like,
you know what he's speaking out against him,

777
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:01.920
he's talking about the vaccines. But
then I think about it stronger and

778
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:06.920
I'm like, he's almost the way
Trump. What Trump was to the right,

779
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.519
he's almost Trump to the left right, you know what I mean.

780
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:15.920
So I'm like, I don't know
they are they playing us because I do

781
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:19.840
like what he says, But then
you know, I don't know it like

782
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:25.239
they're just so good at manipulating us
and manipulating you know, our civilization.

783
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:30.679
It's I really don't know what to
believe. Part of me thinks because his

784
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:36.119
dad and brother got killed for talking
about dismantling the CIA. You know,

785
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:38.639
I want to give him the benefit
of the doubt, you know, because

786
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:44.199
I truly believe, you know,
I pray that people, some people stand

787
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:49.159
of moral guys and women and will
stand up to it. So I try

788
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:51.639
to give him the benefit of the
doubt. But I you know, I

789
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:57.599
don't know if I can. You
know, the thing that worries me the

790
00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:02.880
most is he is uh I don't
want to say he's anti Second Amendment,

791
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:08.159
but I but I have heard him
say some questionable things about gun control.

792
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:15.159
Yeah, and that's the other thing
that as they say, hey, look

793
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.679
over here. You know, they're
trying to win you with this, but

794
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:22.079
they're gonna stab you on the back
with that. Yeah, you know.

795
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:27.599
So it's it is. It's so
hot, and you know, I pray

796
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.840
every day for the country. And
if it does feel like some things are

797
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:36.199
starting to turn, like like we
talked about how when COVID hit and they

798
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:39.599
overplayed their hand. At that point, it felt bad, Like I had

799
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:45.320
a bad feeling, like I thought
it was gonna be like the Bolshevik revolution

800
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:49.079
or the Nazis and we were gonna
be rounded up. Like that's really what

801
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:53.360
my instincts were telling me. And
it feels a bit better now because I

802
00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:58.679
think a lot of people are waking
up thanks to the work of people people

803
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:02.880
like you who are getting information Aldea
and talking about it and having conversations that

804
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:07.840
it does kind of feel like things
are starting to turn for the better.

805
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:12.559
But they're so clever, they have
so much power, they have so much

806
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:15.639
money. You know, I'm not
getting my hopes up, but I am.

807
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:20.599
You know, I'm kind of trying
to be hopeful, but it's hard.

808
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:23.599
You get what I'm saying. It
is, and we're currently in or

809
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:30.360
not currently, we're always inundated with
these distractions on a daily basis. And

810
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:34.639
that's one of the reasons that I've
kind of walked away from the mainstream media.

811
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:37.159
I thought, you know, the
alternate news site was Fox News back,

812
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.599
you know, in like twenty seventeen. That's why I really got the

813
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:45.159
news. And then I'll never forget
the day it was on in the background

814
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:50.239
and they had new Gingrich on and
he mentioned George Soros's name and they cut

815
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:52.480
him off the air. I said, well, then, obviously this is

816
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:57.239
all just a game too, and
that's really that day was the last time.

817
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.639
I think. That's actually the day
I canceled my cable. Um,

818
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:07.280
it's just the right wing and the
left wing belong the same corrupt bird absolutely,

819
01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:12.800
And it's funny, like you you
can tell who these people like the

820
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:16.199
media and all who their allegiance is
too, because like, um, we

821
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:22.239
had a tight end for the patriots. Um. I can't remember his name,

822
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:29.079
but he was on ESPN and he's
talking and then he stopped saying Jesus

823
01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:31.280
Christ, you know, telling him
that Jesus Christ is gonna be the only

824
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:36.039
way to change thing. And then
oh they dropped. Oh sorry, um,

825
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:38.800
we lost you. And that's I've
seen a clip where they did it

826
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:43.800
to golf Is, you know,
all sorts of people, the moment they

827
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:46.719
bring up Jesus Christ. Oh,
oh we dropped them, We lost sound.

828
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:51.960
Sorry, guys. And it just
shows you, like their allegiance is

829
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:54.800
to the Synagogue of Satan. It
is not to Jesus, it is not

830
01:00:54.920 --> 01:01:01.480
to God Jehovah. And you know, it's so and I feel so grateful

831
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:07.320
and blessed that I have discernment.
And I always have had discernment, you

832
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:12.199
know, like I said, when
I was little and the appom like where

833
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.880
I grew up, it was crazy. You know. A lot of us

834
01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:20.280
were second generation project kids and our
parents grew up in the projects and it

835
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:22.719
was dangerous, you know, like
I said, there was a lot of

836
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:27.599
tough people. There was a lot
of psycho people, and I had to

837
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:34.000
learn to read people instantly because if
not, I could have been one of

838
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:37.960
these children being traffic or you know, it was that serious. You know,

839
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:43.559
I had to learn to read people
and by the grace of God,

840
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:46.960
I you know, he gave me
discernment even as a young kid. As

841
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:52.280
I look back now, I realized
that, and you know, I'm grateful

842
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:57.519
for that. Agreed. I think
that tight end you were talking about,

843
01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:00.199
wasn't that Ben Watson? Ben Watson, Yes, that's who it was.

844
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:04.960
Yeah, he's a good man.
He is all about any time he's on

845
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.559
there, he professes Jesus Christ.
And that's probably why he was shown the

846
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:13.639
door at ESPN. Yeah, for
sure, because that's the that's one way

847
01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:17.199
to end your career, right to
get to the top once again, you

848
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:22.079
got to bend the knee of the
Synagogue of satan Um. Now that you've

849
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:25.480
been so you've been a flat earth
for how long would you say, um,

850
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:31.800
probably about a year now. Have
you had any success in you know,

851
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:36.960
we already talked about with your daughter, but whether it be co workers

852
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:39.239
or other family members, have you
had a chance to bring it up and

853
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:46.159
have you had any success? So? I really haven't liked the people in

854
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:52.679
my life, um, like my
ex wife and you know, the people

855
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:55.199
that I want to wake up my
mom like, they just kind of have

856
01:02:55.400 --> 01:03:00.760
that same you know, what's it
matter? Like you know, it doesn't

857
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:02.559
matter. And you know I get
that all the time. Like I'll tell

858
01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:07.039
other people, like some of the
younger guys at work. I work at

859
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.360
a restaurant, and I'll say,
hey, you ever hear a little flat

860
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:13.800
Earth? Because I don't want to
come at them and say the earth flat,

861
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:17.599
dude, listen right, just look
at you like you insane. So

862
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:21.760
I'll kind of be like, hey, you ever hear anything about flat earth?

863
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:22.599
And they'll be like, no,
why, what's up? And I'm

864
01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:28.199
and I'll try to lead them and
not give them my opinion so that maybe

865
01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:31.239
they'll just go and do their own
research and check it out. Because I

866
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:37.519
think that, like you said,
I think your idea with the cod or

867
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:42.079
a short video with you know,
you're leading them, You're not really telling

868
01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:45.440
them nothing. I really think that
is the only way to go because just

869
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:51.679
like the matrix, if you know, they'll fight to defend that system because

870
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:57.119
that's all they know. Yeah,
that's a good point, and I think

871
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:02.159
there's some truth to that, right
if there's something that questions their personal believes,

872
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:08.679
something that's been reinforced to him,
like a lot of children, like

873
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:13.440
there's when you tell a child about
Santa Claus like he doesn't exist anymore.

874
01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:16.159
There's two types of children. There's
the one that, yeah, they kind

875
01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:19.039
of knew, they were just holding
out for hope because it was such a

876
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:23.480
cool story. And then there's the
other, you know, the type B

877
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:29.840
who are almost devastated by the news, like you know, and I've even

878
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.840
heard stories people tell me like the
child looks at him and says, how

879
01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:39.079
could you lie to me? And
that now it kind of made me stop

880
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:45.039
in my track and think, like
we're we're taught like Santa Claus is handed

881
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:47.719
down generation to generation to generation.
And I hope there's not like a little

882
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:50.719
child listening to this podcast in a
car right now, because Santa is real,

883
01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:57.119
if you know what I'm saying,
Like that story is handed down generation

884
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:00.760
generation generation, Like, um,
are we doing the right thing? But

885
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:03.559
by doing the story? Is it
just a harmless little white lie? Is

886
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:06.679
it just a tradition? Like have
you ever taken the time to think about

887
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:13.000
that? Georgia, I agree with
you. I don't. I don't celebrate

888
01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:17.039
Christmas no more because it's not Jesus's
birthday. I don't celebrate Easter no more.

889
01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:23.239
That is a pagan they're both pagan
holidays. East was a holiday that

890
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:30.079
was some fatility God where you would
paint eggs with blood, and it's it's

891
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:33.719
insane, like when you look back
and you know Christmas, you know,

892
01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:39.239
one of the season has made it
a Christian holiday to try to convert the

893
01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:43.800
Pagans. I don't celebrate any of
them anymore. And that was hot,

894
01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:46.360
you know when my daughter says,
why aren't we celebrating Christmas? And I

895
01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:50.559
said, we celebrate God every day, you know, we don't. You

896
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:55.840
know, it's hot. It is
when they're in that world and you don't

897
01:05:56.760 --> 01:06:00.320
want to steal their innocent or they
enjoy, but it is. It's a

898
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:03.239
it's a tough question like do I
do celebrate it? Do I not?

899
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:06.519
Do? I tell it is.
I have been dealing with that, and

900
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:12.760
yeah, I no longer celebrate any
of those pagan holidays. And that's interesting.

901
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:15.280
I'm meeting more and more people like
that as well. I think,

902
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:20.039
um, like the church down the
street again, I talk about this all

903
01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:24.360
the time, friends with the pastor, and we have these conversations. You

904
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:29.920
know, one of the people,
one of the congregants, we were having

905
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:33.559
a conversation and she said, a
church actually broke up, like the church

906
01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:39.039
actually split half the congregation left because
of an Easter egg hunt. And I

907
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:45.559
thought, well, somebody's priorities are
not right whatsoever, And like, I

908
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.800
get the children, and if that's
something that the folks want to do,

909
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:55.280
that's something that they should be able
to organize separately. But to that is

910
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:58.559
like really, I think I've mentioned
it before on here, but that's to

911
01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:02.599
me, it was kind of jaw
dropping. Yeah, for sure, if

912
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:09.079
there was an argument about doctrine,
um, fine, but over an Easter

913
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:15.920
eggon Yeah, it is though when
you read the origins of it and you

914
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:23.599
know what the rabbit represents and the
painting of the egg, it's it's demonic

915
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:29.199
stuff, it is. And I
feel like if people are doing it for

916
01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.519
their right reasons, like in their
mind, like East represents, you know,

917
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:36.239
Jesus rising on the third Day,
then I'm not gonna say, hey,

918
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:41.199
don't do that. That's you know, people need to do them and

919
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:44.719
walk their own path, you know. But for me, I just you

920
01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:48.800
know, I don't wanna have fall
citals and you know, I just don't

921
01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:54.480
want to walk down that path.
And it's funny because when I used to

922
01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:58.880
think back to like you know,
the people on the train passing out the

923
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:02.199
pamphlets the end near and like,
get away from me, crazy right from

924
01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:05.239
him? Now, yeah it is
me. I am that guy. Like,

925
01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:12.480
listen, please come to Jesus that
the end is near. And it's

926
01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:16.680
it's sobering, it's you know,
eye opening when you realize, you know,

927
01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:21.000
they weren't the crazies, those you
know, they knew the truth.

928
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:28.039
So yeah, it's it's wild life
is. Wild life is. And I've

929
01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:31.279
always felt this even since Al he's
younger. The real reality, not the

930
01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:36.039
reality we live or our civilization,
is what this world and life really is.

931
01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:42.960
It's mobulous, it's beautiful. It's
it's more extraordinary than you know,

932
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:45.520
the Lord of the Rings and all
this stuff. They put it in this

933
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:49.199
little box and they set it up
and it's oh, everything's just you know,

934
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:53.359
nine to five and bump up.
But the world really is so much

935
01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:57.880
more than that in our reality.
You know, I've been trying to get

936
01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:00.239
the courage to get back up and
go downtown, and I've got my little

937
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:06.039
generator and speaker and microphone and to
do it again. It's interesting how people

938
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:11.960
react to you. It's cool to
be you know, the beer drinking movie

939
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:15.439
watching. Uh, you know,
guy, but if you stand out there

940
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:17.800
and profess your faith, you're you
get all kinds of words, nut job,

941
01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:21.000
you get SODA's thrown at you.
I did that one time during COVID,

942
01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:24.800
and you really get the treatment.
And it's like, I'm out here

943
01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:27.720
for you, right, and I'm
out here for the people for you know

944
01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:30.960
that they're trying to hijack your rights. How can you not see they're calling

945
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:34.000
you non essential. People who have
spent their whole lives to save up to

946
01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:39.600
purchase businesses. We're told they're not
essential and how to shut down because their

947
01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:45.239
business didn't have the logo of Walmart
or Sam's Club or or King's Soups.

948
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:47.840
Because they're trying to destroy the middle
class. And people couldn't see it.

949
01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:50.520
And you know, I went out
there and try to, you know,

950
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:54.840
with a sign that said everyone is
essential, and I forget what the other

951
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:59.760
side said. And do you know
McDonald's cups thrown at me Anti vax are

952
01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:03.680
everything, and it's just and it's
the same thing like twenty years ago.

953
01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:06.680
We're not twenty years ago, but
probably thirty years ago I would have been

954
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:10.000
them. You know, look at
this nut job, right, and it's

955
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:15.159
just it's interesting how the whole thing
evolves. It is, it's it's um,

956
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:19.159
it's all. It's mind blowing.
That's the only way I can say

957
01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:23.720
it. And you know that is
what my plan is to do, is

958
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:27.119
that's what I want to stop doing, is going out downtown Boston and try

959
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:31.159
to weight people up and not necessarily
with the truth a pot, but more

960
01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:38.239
of leading them through God and right, me too, so and we have

961
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:42.920
to we just we just have to
come at them with love the way Jesus

962
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:45.600
did. Because um, I don't
know if you've ever seen The Chosen the

963
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:51.479
show, but it's basically about Jesus. They do add some stories just to

964
01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:56.680
fill some things in, but it's
it's very well done. You know,

965
01:10:57.239 --> 01:11:01.479
it's Bible based. It's beautifully done. I would recommend anybody that wants to

966
01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:04.520
stop to get to know God.
If you want to stop there, if

967
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:09.319
you're like I don't want to read
the Bible, maybe stop watching The Chosen.

968
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:15.039
It's so well done. If they
really captured the guy that plays Jesus,

969
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:18.119
I don't know his name is Jonathan. He does such a good job.

970
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:24.000
Every time I watched it, I
either cry laugh. It's just I

971
01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:29.880
love it. It's interesting because the
studio who does The Chosen did that movie

972
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:33.159
that just came out, the one
that everybody's talking about, Yeah, the

973
01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:36.279
child trafficking, Yes, sir,
Yeah, it's the same studio, Angel

974
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:41.680
Studios. Yeah. I guess Mel
Gibson has something to do with that.

975
01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:45.840
I just heard. I don't know
exactly what he pott he asked to play

976
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:51.279
in it, but I was reading
an article that said that Mel Gibson and

977
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:56.399
that guy who plays in the movie, who played Jesus and Passion of the

978
01:11:56.479 --> 01:12:00.880
Christ, that they were allegedly gonna
mountain expose a lot of the stuff in

979
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:06.960
Hollywood. Who knows how true it
is, but I wouldn't doubt it,

980
01:12:08.039 --> 01:12:12.000
because you know, if you'll walking
with God and you know this stuff exists

981
01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:16.119
and you don't speak about it even
though you know they're gonna kill you,

982
01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:18.800
which is it is, it's tough. I don't know what I would do,

983
01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:23.600
but I feel they must have a
yearning to tell the truth of what's

984
01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:27.800
going on, because they Mel Gibson
definitely knows what's going on. Yeah,

985
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:31.520
from what I've heard, there's supposed
to be some like a four part movie

986
01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:38.239
series or mini series coming out Exposing
and I guess this one that's out right

987
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:43.680
now, which by the way,
just unbelievably beat Indiana Jones on July fourth,

988
01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:46.439
that actually grows more money than that
new Indiana Jones. But I mean,

989
01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:49.520
I can't believe people are still interested
in that. I mean, he's

990
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:54.239
eighty something years old, but it's
pretty incredible. And people like Kevin Sorbo,

991
01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:58.079
he's a professed Christian. There are
a few people within the movie industry

992
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:00.680
that are good folks, and many
of them have left Hollywood physically, like

993
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:08.079
move to either Arizona or wherever um
and you just hope that they're maybe because

994
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:12.039
I think in the back of everyone's
mind, right, like is mel really

995
01:13:12.039 --> 01:13:16.600
a good guy? Right? You
kind of just like hesitate because maybe because

996
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:20.479
of how we were let down with
other folks like say Trump and other people,

997
01:13:21.279 --> 01:13:25.079
which lends credence to let us not
put our faith in man. You

998
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:28.479
put your faith into God, you
won't be let down. Call all men

999
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:33.600
Elijah for sure. Yeah. Yeah, so one can hope, right,

1000
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:40.800
but that hopium sometimes can be a
big letdown. It really is. It's

1001
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:45.840
you know, and that's that's truly
why God's so important. Like I watched

1002
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:49.680
some of these movies of like these
you know, I don't know, like

1003
01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:56.039
it shows the world in the future, and they're so cold. And I

1004
01:13:56.399 --> 01:13:59.800
was because I like sci fi and
I was watching one the other day and

1005
01:13:59.840 --> 01:14:03.199
I like, why is this so
cold to me? It's because this God's

1006
01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:08.119
not in that world, you know. That's That's what I take from it,

1007
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:13.760
And it really makes me appreciate being
able to talk to my God and

1008
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:19.359
feel his love and have the Bible
like I couldn't. You know, I

1009
01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:23.439
did it for years, Like I
always believed in God, but I only

1010
01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:26.359
went to God when I needed something. Once I shot my friend in the

1011
01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:29.159
eye with a paintball gun on accident. He was gonna be blind. I

1012
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:32.000
went to church, I prayed,
you know, I got arrested on Saint

1013
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:35.359
Patty's Day. I went to church
and prayed. You know. I always

1014
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:41.479
went to God when I needed something, and luckily I had that. But

1015
01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:45.239
you know, the people that don't
have God at all, I don't know

1016
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:47.359
how they do it. I really
don't. It makes sense. Why.

1017
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:53.760
You know a lot of people go
you know, into like they need their

1018
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:56.560
movies, they need this, Like
I get it, you know, I

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01:14:56.880 --> 01:15:00.560
just I don't know. I hope
everyone finds God. I really good.

1020
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:08.119
Amen to that. And we all
have our own journeys, and you know,

1021
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:11.800
we all have our own flaws.
And I try to say all the

1022
01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:15.800
time that you know, this is
not me, you know, preaching to

1023
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:18.960
the you know, I'm not standing
up here on a pulpit. I'm just

1024
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:24.000
trying to share my experiences. And
you know, it took me a long

1025
01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:26.359
time to get to the truth.
You know. I've had so many guests

1026
01:15:26.359 --> 01:15:29.000
on this show that, like,
you know, in their twenties and early

1027
01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:33.560
thirties, and I'm just blown away. I just wish that my you know,

1028
01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:38.119
my mind was there at their age. I think a lot of the

1029
01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:42.479
things I did know, especially you
know, two thousand and four, I

1030
01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:46.199
came across a few things and I
had a flag officer tell me some things,

1031
01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:49.600
and I just chose not to look
into it. It was just wasn't

1032
01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:55.119
the right time. You know.
We all have our now. I'm not

1033
01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:57.560
ready for the red pill, not
ready for the red pill. But when

1034
01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:00.720
you are and you take it,
boy, it certainly is life changing,

1035
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:05.800
for sure. And I hope I
didn't come off preach you or anything,

1036
01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:11.319
because I really am not trying to
preach to anybody. I'm truly coming from

1037
01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:14.760
a place of love. I was
in the same predicament we all were.

1038
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:19.520
You know, I'm not better than
anybody where all children's God. We're all

1039
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:25.600
you know, God's children. And
you know I'm not preaching. You know,

1040
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:28.760
I've made a lot of mistakes in
my life, you know, and

1041
01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:32.199
I'm just grateful that I get a
chance to live again as a boon again

1042
01:16:32.279 --> 01:16:39.159
Christian and tried to love people the
way Jesus did. And I'm so honored

1043
01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:42.319
to have had you on and so
many you know, every guest I've had,

1044
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:45.920
I've learned something from each and every
person. And if I can just

1045
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:48.960
play a small part of building a
community, because like I said, there's

1046
01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:53.720
so many of us don't really have
a placed event to talk. And I

1047
01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:56.119
hope I can make you in person. You know. My goal is to

1048
01:16:56.159 --> 01:17:00.000
one of these days, you know, not to have this big multi million

1049
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:03.119
in dollar you know, I'm going
from city to city, but I hope

1050
01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:06.479
I can scrape enough shekels together where
I can you know, hit a couple

1051
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:12.159
of cities and people on the ground
there can kind of you know, gather

1052
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:15.880
people and we can just have a
get together and we can share. It

1053
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:17.600
wouldn't be you know, a George
show. It would be everybody there to

1054
01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:21.439
tell their story and then we can
break bread together. And I think it

1055
01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:27.279
would be a wonderful experience. Yeah, definitely, Like because me and my

1056
01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:31.720
friend Dave were just talking about that. Like on Dave Weiss's flat Earth app,

1057
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:38.000
you could you pay like fifteen dollars
for the year and it shows you

1058
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:41.640
all the people around that also have
the app. When we would think in

1059
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:45.039
the same thing, we like we
should get together and try to like zachly

1060
01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:50.840
we you said, I get a
small groute together and have meetups because you

1061
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:57.079
know we're all on the same path
and you know it does get lonely sometimes.

1062
01:17:57.119 --> 01:18:00.560
So yeah, it's a great idea. Yeah, well, I certainly

1063
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:03.920
look forward to it. We're running
up against our time. I would like

1064
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:08.439
to give you, um, you
know, the last few minutes here to

1065
01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:15.760
say whatever you'd like. Okay,
I just want to thank you for having

1066
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:19.039
me on George and thank you for
all the hot work you're doing. Um

1067
01:18:19.079 --> 01:18:25.239
I am I have my first podcast, um written. Um. I'm just

1068
01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:30.399
working on saving the funds to get
a camera and Mike, but uh,

1069
01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:35.399
you know, anybody that's on the
fence with flat earth, UM, just

1070
01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:42.000
stick with it, try having an
open mind. And you know the times

1071
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:45.119
we live in, you know,
their fifth they could be scary. So

1072
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:48.359
I just want to end with this
Bible verse. My daughter is going to

1073
01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:54.920
help me say it. So it's
um stuff said the Lord I who created

1074
01:18:54.960 --> 01:19:00.880
you, Oh Jacob, I who
formed you? Oh Israel Enough wherever regin

1075
01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:08.920
you ask Claudie by name you are
mind Isaiah forty three dash one And that's

1076
01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:13.680
it. Thank you everyone. Wow, what's uh? We'll tell her?

1077
01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:16.520
I said, hello. That was
a got me a little choked up to

1078
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:19.319
hear a little. You know.
It reminds me when I listened to Bill

1079
01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:23.039
Cooper sometimes and his little girl would
come on and you know, say the

1080
01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:27.079
Pledge of Allegiance and things like that. It's so wonderful to be able to

1081
01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:31.760
have your daughter to finish the podcast
like that. Thank you for that.

1082
01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:39.600
That was awesome. Thanks George,
and thanks also, please let me know

1083
01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:43.600
when when you're ready to go on
your podcast. Please send me the name

1084
01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:47.079
of it and where people can find
it so we can let the audience know.

1085
01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:51.239
All right, absolutely, I will
is that something you're gonna be doing

1086
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:57.079
like on YouTube or Rumble or I
was thinking Rumble. Have you decided to

1087
01:19:57.119 --> 01:20:01.039
get and maybe Spotify? Um,
I just got a computer. Took me

1088
01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:03.680
a little while to save up for
it, but I just got to get

1089
01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:10.359
a mic, and I already wrote
my first podcast, so I'm ready to

1090
01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:13.640
go. So it should be coming
soon and I will definitely let you know

1091
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:17.960
that's awesome. Well, definitely keep
in touch. Sorry, and thank you

1092
01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:23.760
again so much for your time and
sharing your story, and God bless you

1093
01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:27.439
and your family, and to all
the listeners, thank you so much for

1094
01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:30.880
being a part of this journey.
It is greatly appreciated. And of course

1095
01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:38.159
Cliff's email address will be in the
show description, and once he gets this

1096
01:20:38.199 --> 01:20:42.960
podcast, because people will listen to
this year from now by, then I'll

1097
01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:45.600
go back and I will actually put
a link to your podcast in the show

1098
01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:47.199
description. Once we get that,
I can edit that at any time.

1099
01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:53.720
So let's all pray for each other, and thank you again for your testimony.

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01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:55.720
To all the listeners. God bless
each and every one of you,

1101
01:20:56.359 --> 01:21:00.039
and keep your head on a swivel
during these unusual crazy time and until next

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01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:02.079
time, my friends, we will
see you