WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.839 This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis 2 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:07.679 Show. Please be sure to give us a five star rating if you'd be 3 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:11.599 so kind, and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every 4 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:16.559 single day on your favorite podcast platform. Well, hello everyone, this is 5 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:20.640 not Dan Caplis. This is Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan. Dan is 6 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:25.320 trying to connect to us. He's in Switzerland, of all places, celebrating 7 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:29.640 his thirtieth anniversary. Is that right? Ryan? This is correct. Wow, 8 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:32.399 we need some advice on how to get there, Jason, I get 9 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:35.840 on great, but that's a long time. You guys will make it to 10 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:41.200 thirty. Come on, We've got barbecue to keep us together. Hey. 11 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:45.159 You know, I can't think of a crazier time to be asked to help 12 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:49.560 host this show than today. I literally kept changing my notes all day because 13 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:54.000 the news was changing so quickly. And I just got back from the RNC, 14 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:58.359 the Republican National Convention. Mandy Connell was there with me. We had 15 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:02.240 an incredible time. Going to be on at four point thirty three to talk 16 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.599 to me about her experience. We're going to share some stories about what we 17 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:10.719 saw and felled and lived while we were there. But boy is the news 18 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:15.239 cranken right now. We've got Joe Biden who stepped down. We've got Kamala 19 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:21.719 who is at her campaign headquarters right now in Delaware. Apparently Biden just called 20 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:25.120 in to give a pep talk. There's all kinds of rumors going on on 21 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:27.760 Twitter right now. Twitter's like the wild wild West at this moment, so 22 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:32.200 you kind of have to verify and wait to let things play out a little 23 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:34.239 bit. But he did call into headquarters, gave him a pep talk. 24 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:38.599 Everyone who tweeted about it that was there said he sounded very very ill. 25 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:45.400 So lots going on on that front. We've got the assassination hearings today, 26 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.159 which were a disaster. I think you just had Lauren Bobert on Congresswoman Lauren 27 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:53.079 Bobert to talk about that. And then we've got to talk about what does 28 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:57.560 this look like going forward, How does Donald Trump change up his campaign? 29 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:02.280 How do we as Republican campaign. We think we know who the candidate is, 30 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:07.479 but there's a couple people that haven't weighed in yet, specifically a previous 31 00:02:07.520 --> 00:02:13.360 President Obama. He's saying he'd prefer an open convention. I don't think Schumer 32 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:17.319 has weighed in yet or Jeffrey's but Pelosi did endorse Kamala today, so she's 33 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:23.240 got a lot of heavyweight behind her. But it's not a done deal yet. 34 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:27.400 We've got to get through the Democrat National Convention. So I've been calling 35 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:30.520 some of my Democrat friends. I have a few, asking you if they'd 36 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:32.439 come on and talk about how they feel about what's going on. I haven't 37 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:37.080 gotten any takers yet, but if I do, or if there's any Democrats 38 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.680 that want to call in and give us some insights, that would be great 39 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:43.280 as well. And Ryan, it looks like we may have Dan on the 40 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:46.439 line. Is that great? He's a former Democrat, so that yes, 41 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:53.159 sure, Hi, Dan, welcome to your show. Heidi, Well, 42 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:57.840 thank you. It's great to be there. Yeah, and thank you so 43 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:00.000 much. I know how busy you are, but thank you for agreeing to, 44 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:04.319 you know, do the show this week for a few days. And 45 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:09.240 at the time we set that up, he did not realize that Biden would 46 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:13.800 choose Sunday to drop out. If he did, but tell me something, 47 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:16.240 I mean, there's so much to talk about, obviously, but if I'm 48 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:23.039 reading this correctly, his letter wasn't on White House stationary, it appeared to 49 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:30.120 be on personal stationary and reportedly has a digital signature, with no contemporaneous photographs 50 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:36.919 released yet of him signing that, So that I think is one of the 51 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:40.719 odder things we've seen. But I'm dying to talk to you about this because 52 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:45.400 you know, on my show, I've been telling our folks for a year 53 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:50.479 and a half that Biden would not be the dem nominee, and obviously the 54 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:54.800 elite that control the party have decided to just reject the will of the voters 55 00:03:55.599 --> 00:04:00.000 and pushed him out. And I have no doubt mind that they will do 56 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:05.520 the exact same thing to Kamala if she is not performing over the next few 57 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:10.599 weeks. So it should be a remarkable time. But how ironic, right, 58 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:13.879 I know, it's so obvious, tiny, but how ironic that the 59 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:19.279 Democratic Party is proving to be the opposite of democratic and the party of selection 60 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:24.360 not election. So it's really, I think one of the more bizarre moments 61 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:29.000 we've seen in America. I agree, Dan, it's been surreal, and 62 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:31.800 honestly, I'm not sure that Kamala is going to end up being the candidate 63 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:39.439 either. I have a sneaking suspicion that Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton are lurking 64 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:43.040 in the background. Maybe some Gavin Newsom sprinkled in there. We'll see. 65 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:46.360 But I think she's really got to I mean, she's got to do a 66 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:50.120 darn good job over the next few weeks before the convention to hold this spot, 67 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:54.720 because I agree they'll take her out if she's not doing well in her 68 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:58.720 pulling right now. The pulling that's coming out today had to head Kamala versus 69 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.560 Trump. She's pretty far behind, like five to six points behind from the 70 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:06.560 polls that I've been seeing. Yeah, And I think the big problem they 71 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:13.000 have with Kamala Harris is that America knows her well enough for her to have 72 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:17.040 very low approval ratings. So it's not like somebody totally fresh, right, 73 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:19.680 like, oh man, I never heard this, Joshapiro, I like what 74 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:25.480 I saw him do after the assassination attempt and that sort of thing. I 75 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:29.160 mean, they know her well enough now to know there's something really off there. 76 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:32.759 But even worse for the Dems, they're just about to learn. They're 77 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:36.360 just about to learn so much more about her, and most of it bad. 78 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:42.160 And so I wouldn't be at all surprised if she ended up tanking on 79 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:46.759 multiple fronts, including her public appearances, and if she doesn't, then Trump 80 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:50.199 has a different challenge, right, but one I'm very confident he will overcome. 81 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:56.639 I am too. I mean that convention was so well put together, 82 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:01.600 and Trump and his family did an incredible job. All the speakers were fantastic. 83 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:05.519 Of course I have some favorites which we can talk about, but overall, 84 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:11.120 it was just an incredible, once in a lifetime experience. You walked 85 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:15.680 away thinking there is no way we will lose this election. Now, Republicans 86 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:20.040 are good at messing things up, so I'm still very nervous about how things 87 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:26.279 are going to go forward. But I do believe President Trump is very confident. 88 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:30.399 He's very calm, he's very resolved. His family is, his team 89 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.519 is. Everyone seems to know what they're going to do and are prepared for 90 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:39.040 different things to happen, as evidenced by the commercial that came out today going 91 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:43.519 after Kamala. So I feel good, I feel confident, but I'm also 92 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:47.040 scared to death that something's going to happen and flip everything on its head. 93 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:53.879 Well. One of the mysteries to me, right now, Heidi is I 94 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:58.959 mean, it's such a strange moment in American history right because we literally don't 95 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:00.680 know if we have a president. I mean, I assume he's alive. 96 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:04.319 I'm not saying that, but we don't know if we have a president who's 97 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:09.680 functioning at all. And I go back to why wasn't his letter saying he's 98 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:15.519 withdrawing from the race on White House stationary and if it was digitally signed, 99 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.680 why all that? So we don't know if he's functional. We don't know 100 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:21.360 if he'll be at all functional in the future. But this I do know, 101 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:27.360 Heidi, and that is that if Biden right now, is it all 102 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:30.319 cogent, and if he's functional, and if he's going to actually stay in 103 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:38.680 office, I am certain to my core he wants Kamala to lose. He 104 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:44.199 wants whoever the Democrat nominee is to lose. He wants to humiliate the people 105 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:47.800 who ran him out of his re election bid. He wants to be the 106 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:53.000 only person to beat Trump. So I think he's off to a great start 107 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:57.240 with that, you know, by endorsing Kamala. But is there any doubt 108 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:00.600 there how to him? And could anybody make a credible case that you're Biden 109 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.600 would actually want the person who's going to take over for him now as nominee 110 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.959 to win. I mean that that's not the Joe Biden we've known over all 111 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:16.040 these years. Well, and I would suggest his wife is even more venomous 112 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.720 about the whole situation. It seems as if Jill has been in charge of 113 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:26.199 things for a while, and what it's terrible thing to watch your husband stumble 114 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:31.200 and just really look horrible in front of the whole world and not let him 115 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.559 gracefully go hang out with his grandkids, spend time on the beach, whatever 116 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.240 it is. But I really put a lot of the blame on her and 117 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:43.159 his family. Obviously, Hunter wants to get a pardon, and there's so 118 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:48.519 much dysfunction in the rest of the family too. I think there's much more 119 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:54.639 than meets the eye to this story. I think there's some serious conflict going 120 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:58.279 on between the Obama's and the Biden's right now. From what I'm reading, 121 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:05.759 that's an interesting situation as well. Yeah, and I know you've got to 122 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.919 hit this hard break at twelve fifteen and Mandy Carnell coming up next, and 123 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.360 I'm interested in joining that conversation. But again, thank you again to Heidi 124 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:18.080 Ganoll, who's selling in this week while Amy and I are off celebrating our 125 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.759 thirtieth anniversary. I think we're eight hours ahead of Denver right now, so 126 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:28.120 it's a little after midnight here. But these are truly historic times, so 127 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.759 it'll be fun to do this show with you and interesting to get Nandy's take. 128 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:35.480 Well, thanks, Dan, We're headed to a break, but this 129 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.120 is the Dan Kapla Show. Dan is so honored to be here filling in 130 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.279 at least partnering with you on this show. It's going to be a lot 131 00:09:43.320 --> 00:10:07.720 of fun. And now back to The Dan Kapla Show podcast. One of 132 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.960 my favorite movies The Sound of Music. Dan, it sounds like you're right 133 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:16.039 in the action where all that was filmed. Are you singing about the hills 134 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:22.399 being alive? Holy cow? I will be in the morning because at midnight 135 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:24.480 Denver time, we're holding up to what they call the top of Europe, 136 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:28.879 which is the highest mountain point. They say, at least I don't think 137 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:31.799 it's true, but they say in at least this part of Europe. But 138 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.759 yeah, thirty years in the making, you know, kind of our dream. 139 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:41.639 Thirtieth anniversary trip, and then somebody decides Biden's Biden's going to drop out 140 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:43.480 of the race in the middle of that. But thank you, Heidi, 141 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:48.080 thank you again for filling in and for allowing me to join you, because 142 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:50.960 lord knows, there's a lot to talk about. Yeah, what are people 143 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.120 talking about over in Europe? How are they taking all of this news? 144 00:10:54.240 --> 00:11:01.159 Any insights there? If I could understand what they were saying, I tell 145 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:05.320 you, But I don't understand the word anywhere saying except my wife. Oh 146 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:11.320 well that's important, that's more important. But obviously, you know, it's 147 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:16.679 the assassination attempting all that is dominating the headlines, much more so than Biden 148 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:20.440 dropping out of the race. My guess is that it probably doesn't come as 149 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:22.399 a surprise to anybody who's just been looking at him for a while. I 150 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.039 mean not to be that guy, but I've been turning our listeners for a 151 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:28.679 year and a half that he's not going to be in this race. And 152 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:33.679 in fact, Ryan got angry at me because about two months ago I banned 153 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.960 any conversation that assumed he would be the nominee. But hey, looking forward 154 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.399 to talking with Nandy. I know you guys hung out a bunch in the 155 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:45.799 convention, and I love her stuff. We had a great time. I 156 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:48.440 got to go on her show for a few minutes with my dad. My 157 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.399 dad was actually a delegate at the convention and I was an alternate, And 158 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:56.039 then we brought a couple of guests, had a wonderful time, lots of 159 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:01.559 amazing people from all over the country. Just such a wide, a diverse 160 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:07.200 group of folks from all over America. And the thing that united everybody though, 161 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.279 was we are not arguing at this point. We are rallying behind our 162 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:16.360 candidate. We are going to win this election this year. And it's the 163 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:22.080 first time I've really seen Republicans all in to win, like just no argument. 164 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:24.840 This is what we're doing. We're going to activate, We're going to 165 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:26.440 get busy. We're going to do the work that needs to get done. 166 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:30.639 No matter how close they say it is, no matter how far ahead they 167 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:37.600 say Trump is. Everyone's ready to rock and roll. So what do you 168 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:45.360 think comes next here? Do you think Kamala Harris ends up being their actual 169 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:50.159 nominee coming out of the convention if she falters over the next couple of weeks, 170 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:54.080 which is my suspicion, and I think there's a good chance she will 171 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:58.639 falter in the polls, that she'll falter in public appearances, at least those 172 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:03.759 that aren't on a teleprompter. I think the powers would be in the Democratic 173 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:07.080 Party and you could probably put Obama at the top of that right along with 174 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.919 the big money men and women. You know, they have made it clear 175 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:16.159 that they will get rid of anybody they need to, regardless of how many 176 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.480 people have voted for that person, if it threatens their hold on powers. 177 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.759 So you know, from their standpoint, yeah, they probably think that this 178 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:31.360 Kamala plays a smart one, right because at that point they avoid alienating the 179 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:33.759 folks who would want Kamala as their nominee. And then a couple of weeks 180 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:39.000 into this issues tanking into polling, they've got their excuse to move her out. 181 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.759 Well, what was shocking to me, and I guess it's not that 182 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.360 surprising, but this shows the riff that's happening on the Democrat side with the 183 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:52.960 power players is that Obama. President Obama has not endorsed her and actually said 184 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:56.519 he would like an open convention, and also Schumer and Jeffries I don't believe 185 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:01.000 have endorsed her as well. Pelosi came out today endorsed, so that was 186 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.759 a that was a big win for Kamala to stay in. But to your 187 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.120 point, they're vicious they'll take her out. I have no doubt. I 188 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.919 think it's going to be really telling who she picks for her vice president, 189 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:15.440 and that person, I believe, Dan, you know, probably better than 190 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:18.799 me, has to get approved by the Senate if Biden steps down, like 191 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:24.360 if Biden goes out before his term is up, Is that correct? All 192 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.360 right? Yeah, I mean it would take congression, congressional approval. I'm 193 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:33.480 not remembering right now the specifics of that butture one hundred percent correct, But 194 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:37.639 if it just continues on course, and what a big if, right, 195 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.639 because obviously he's not competent to be our commander in chief right now, he's 196 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:48.200 an immediate national security threat every single minute due to the fact that he's not 197 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:52.799 functional. But now it's even worse when he's disappeared from the public stage and 198 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.000 the weirdness of that note on personal stationary where he withdraw us from the race. 199 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:01.600 Can you imagine that the you know, how evil the enemies of the 200 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.000 US are, Can you imagine what they're thinking? But now the window they 201 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:11.919 think they have well. And also he canceled his meeting with net Yahou tomorrow 202 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:16.000 and Kamala won't meet with him either. It won't be won't I guess accommodate 203 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:20.159 him speaking in front of Congress tomorrow. So that was very telling. There's 204 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:22.000 rumors going on around Twitter, which, like I said, is the wild 205 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:28.200 West, but that Netna who's going to instead meet with Trump? But I 206 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:31.240 do think they're trying to make it seem as if he's okay. He called 207 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:37.360 in to Kamala Harris's campaign team meeting at headquarters in Delaware where she has just 208 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:41.519 I think she just got there an hour or two ago. But the folks 209 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:46.720 that listened to that were listening in on him calling in said he sounds gravely 210 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:48.919 ill, and then there were accusations that was even a recording, So who 211 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:52.720 knows, but they're trying to, you know, put it out there that 212 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.960 he's recovering. And his doctor put out a note that his COVID symptoms are 213 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.120 almost done. So there's all kinds. It's a crazy stuff going on. 214 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:03.440 It's hard to know what to believe at this point. And guys, don't 215 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:06.480 we need just like a proof of a life hostage photo with him holding a 216 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:11.159 newspaper, even it's just a still shot. Dan, Yeah, it was 217 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:12.279 something like that. And I know we have a lot of hot takes sound 218 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:15.559 from today on that and listen, I know you guys are the same. 219 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.799 I've never wished him anything, I know in terms of his health, their 220 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:22.720 happiness. Just get out of that office. He's done so much harm. 221 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.320 He's in danger in America every day. But to your point, Id, 222 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:29.799 right, if he hangs on and finishes his term, then you know, 223 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.960 Kamala is an amanie. She chooses her VP convention, you know, confirms 224 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.399 and off they go. But boy, I think that's a big if between 225 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:40.799 now and then in Obama, don't you guys think it's kind of a no 226 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:45.960 lose for him, Because right now, if Kamala is strong enough and she's 227 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.240 able to hang on, then he gives the final blessing and he's not just 228 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:52.600 one of the pack, you know, he's OZ and he gets to sign 229 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:57.759 off and give her that ultimate approval. And if she stumbles and it's clear 230 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:02.279 that THEMS are going to lose with her, he's in the power position to 231 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:04.720 switch somebody in. Who do you think that'll be, Dan? Do you 232 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:10.400 think it's Michelle, Well, if she wants it, you know, if 233 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:12.880 she wants it, and that that's what I don't know, right. I've 234 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:18.400 always thought the best hope of her staying out was her, in my mind, 235 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.160 you know, revulsion at the thought of losing the Trump that that would 236 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:29.160 be her legacy. And after Trump's incredible display of heroism and character following the 237 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:33.759 assassination attempt, she and Brock have to be sitting there thinking that it's going 238 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.359 to be very, very hard to beat Trump, even for her. So 239 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:41.960 what's your take on Hillary Clinton and her weighing? And obviously she came out 240 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.599 with a full endorsement of Kamala, but she's got to be up to something. 241 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:48.680 Oh heck, yes, right, I mean that's purely tactical. We 242 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:56.559 all know everybody knows Hillary Clinton would virtually anything to get that nomination, and 243 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:59.640 every one Moore Krack at the White House. I think that's a given, 244 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:06.359 right. What I don't know is whether Obama. It's hard to imagine Obama 245 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:11.839 sanctioning that, and I think all roads lead through Obama. Well, Dan, 246 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:15.480 I appreciate your input. You have a brain insight. This is Heidigan 247 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.440 all I'm filling in for dan Kaplis, who's in Switzerland. We will be 248 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:41.000 right back. You're listening to the Dankaplis Show podcast. I'm not certain at 249 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:45.480 this time how the information from the people in the crowd was relayed to any 250 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.759 law enforcement personnel. Now you knew that everyone knew, the people there knew 251 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:53.880 that there was a danger, They knew there was a threat to President Trump 252 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.440 and it was allowed to happen. Was there a standdown order, miss Cheetle? 253 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:03.480 Was there a conspiracy to kill President Trump? Absolutely not? Then how 254 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:07.279 did this happen? And why are you still sitting here not turning in your 255 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:11.240 letter of resignation? Last question, but please answer, and then I'll recognize 256 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:15.359 us pressly. Please answer the question. That is what we are investigating to 257 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:19.440 determine. We're waiting for your letter. We're waiting for your letter of resignation, 258 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:26.200 and you really need to consider doing that before you leave today. That 259 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:33.400 was Marlee Marjorie Taylor Green obviously questioning the Secret Service director about whether there was 260 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.839 a stand down order. Now that there's no evidence at this point that there 261 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:42.519 was any kind of standdown order, but there are obviously profound unanswered questions, 262 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:49.519 and in my view, a stunning level of stonewalling at this point by the 263 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:52.720 Biden administration. I would say the Secret Service, but listen, if this 264 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:56.519 is the Biden administration's call, I don't think there's any doubt about that. 265 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:00.240 When it comes to the men and women in law enforce, my view remains. 266 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.640 And if you think I'm wrong, let us know. My view remains 267 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.599 that and let us know what evidence you have. But my view remains. 268 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:11.640 Overall, men and women in law enforcement are heroes. You have a few 269 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:15.799 bad apples, Certainly Secret Service qualify as being men and women in law enforcement 270 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:19.880 and the vast majority heroes. And we saw some of that heroism on display 271 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:25.799 as people put their bodies between the bullets and President Trump. But obviously at 272 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:33.680 this point the Biden administration is hiding and deceiving and stonewalling and raising profound questions 273 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:42.240 about whether there was a deliberate effort to withhold from Trump adequate security. And 274 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:45.960 so these hearings and did you hear this today? How do you know all 275 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:48.240 kind enough to fill in on the show for a few days this week? 276 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:53.279 Amy and I had planned this thirtieth anniversary trip forever and so you know we're 277 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:57.920 off in the middle of Europe right now, and Heidi kind enough to allow 278 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:02.720 me to be on the show with her during these historic days. But Heidi, 279 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:08.319 did you hear that testimony today from Cheadle that they don't have any audio 280 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:17.200 recording of the communications that day, of the radio communications that day, and 281 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:21.839 listen, I'd love to hear from some of our Secret Service listeners as to 282 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:27.400 whether it's standard protocol to have recordings of the radio comms. But I've got 283 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:32.119 to tell you it's standard protocol and lots of other law enforcement scenarios, so 284 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:36.920 it's hard to imagine it would not be for the Secret Service protecting a leading 285 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:41.720 candidate for president. How do you not have those recordings? That was one 286 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:47.680 of many, many shocking statements today she made. She wouldn't say how many 287 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:52.240 casings there were. She wouldn't say if there was an additional shooter or not, 288 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:57.799 because that's going around everywhere. She wouldn't say, she wouldn't say who 289 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:03.880 was in charge of the the whole project or the effort to protect Donald Trump. 290 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:10.119 She basically didn't answer much of anything, which is typical of this administration. 291 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:14.440 Yeah, under these circumstances, but hey, we're really privileged to have 292 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:18.720 the great Mandy Connell with us, who just does a phenomenal job on our 293 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:21.799 sister station eight fifty k away. I'd say out of Denver, but it's 294 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:26.079 really out of just about everywhere, and did a fantastic, fantastic job at 295 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.880 the convention last week. Mandy, We've been anxious to get your take. 296 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:32.880 Thanks for being on the Dan Kaplas show. Well, thanks for having me, 297 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:34.440 Dan. It's good to see Heidi here. We got to catch up 298 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:38.599 a little bit last week as she and her delegate Dad Harvey were there at 299 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:42.400 the RNC. Dan, have you ever had the chance to go to a 300 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:48.240 convention like this? I have not, and I'm so jealous of you guys 301 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:51.240 and what I'd like to do. Mandy, since I'm, you know, 302 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:53.440 eight hours ahead of you guys in the middle of god knows where right now 303 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:56.960 is turn it over to you and Heidi and I'll just listen because you guys 304 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:03.160 had this great week together and I'll just be another listener now. But thanks 305 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:07.440 for coming on. I appreciate the opportunity. I had never gone to a 306 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:11.839 convention either, and had no idea what to expect, and came away with 307 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:17.079 a new appreciation for the process. Doesn't that sound stupid to say that you 308 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:19.200 have a new appreciation for the process. But your dad was part of the 309 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:23.359 process, Heidi. He got to do the roll call where Colorado threw their 310 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:27.400 delegates behind Donald Trump. It's not just about pomp and circumstance. But oh 311 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:30.920 the pomp and circumstance was fun. It was fun, But there's lots of 312 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:34.359 procedural stuff that goes on behind the scenes. And even the week before he 313 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:37.200 had to be on a lot of meetings. He was on a committee and 314 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:42.839 really engaged and involved in making decisions about the convention. It wasn't just top 315 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:48.119 down, this is what's going to happen, and they pulled off an incredible 316 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:52.480 week in Milwaukee. Everything was just top notch. The security was awesome. 317 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:57.000 I felt safe the entire time, even though we had some lunatic Yeah, 318 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:00.880 try and outside, but he never got in the zone as it was called. 319 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:04.759 Everybody everything was ari are is it inside the zone or outside the zone? 320 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.240 Do I have to leave the zone? Can I get? But they 321 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:14.680 did a great job, and the conventions are more than a raw raw party 322 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.160 for all of the Republicans. What was interesting is how many people came in 323 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:23.039 with interesting ideas. Because we're talking to delegates on outside, and though they 324 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:26.720 were all enthusiastic Donald Trump supporters, you asked them about an issue, they 325 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:30.799 had an idea of how to solve that problem. And that's what I wasn't 326 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.279 expecting so much. I just thought it was going to be a bunch of 327 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:37.519 cheerleaders showing up to support Donald Trump. But these are thoughtful people who think 328 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:42.039 about big ideas and they believe that Donald Trump is the guy that can move 329 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:47.799 this country towards those big ideas. It was very refreshing, and I'm interested 330 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:49.599 to see when we go to the DNC, because Koa is going to the 331 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:53.279 DNC as well to do a compare and contrast. I thought it would be 332 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:56.480 almost like a funeral if Joe Biden was going to be the nominee. But 333 00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:03.160 now there's this new life in je did into the Democratic Party with presumed nominee 334 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:07.599 Kamala Harris. That is going to make it a whole different thing, and 335 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.200 I'm super excited about this. I'm interested to see just the tone and tenor 336 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.839 of the people that are there, not necessarily just the politicians, but the 337 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.440 delegates. So I want to hear from the delegates We're just going to bring 338 00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:22.960 the Democratic National Convention to the listeners. I'm not going up there in an 339 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:27.240 adversarial way. I'm going there to let people talk and then the listeners can 340 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.559 make up their own minds about what they're going to do. And that's going 341 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:34.960 to be fascinating, because how do you outdo what we just experienced for a 342 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:37.960 week, especially because they have to be rewriting the whole script right now, 343 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:41.279 that's right. I mean, they've got a new lead character, right They've 344 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.799 just thrown out their old leading man and brought in a leading woman. They've 345 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:49.279 got to rewrite the whole script. And there's so much that goes into these 346 00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:56.319 conventions that I cannot even imagine the people behind the scenes that are scrambling to 347 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.519 make those corrections and make this And we don't know for sure it's going to 348 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.519 be Kamala Harris. I'd be shocked if it wasn't. I mean, Dan, 349 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.039 really, do you do you see any other Democrat out there that could 350 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:11.440 possibly step in? I do, and I say it for this reason, 351 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:18.759 Mandy. Obviously, we've just seen We've just seen the elected nominee of the 352 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:23.880 party thrown overboard by the people in power. Because they thought he was going 353 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:27.960 to lose and jeopardize their power. They wouldn't hesitate for a second. And 354 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:33.759 in my humble opinion, to throw Kamala overboard if we see let's say two 355 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.680 three weeks of bad polling overall, right, I mean, I bet you 356 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.920 guys dinner right now. We see her in some of these polls spike ahead 357 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.599 of Trump temporarily, etc. I think that will be temporary. But my 358 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:47.920 goodness, Mandy, I mean, you know as well or better than I 359 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:52.519 do, as Heidi does. Also that there is so much out there on 360 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.559 Kamala Harris that shows she is not up for this job. I cannot believe 361 00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.440 Americans in the end are going to feel she's up for this job. Her 362 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:04.839 current approval ratings show that. So I wouldn't be surprised if she tanks over 363 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:08.119 the next two or three weeks and they toss her. But then who comes 364 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:11.119 in? Do you go get Gavin? And the money thing is the big 365 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.279 thing, Dan, I mean, there's two hundred and fifty something million dollars 366 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.799 sitting in the Biden Harris war chest. They're trying to figure out how to 367 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:22.440 get that money, and they're not even sure they can give it to Kamala 368 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:27.599 Harris because she hasn't actually been nominated, So there's all these machinations behind the 369 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:32.359 scenes. But you know as well as well as I do money talks BS 370 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:36.119 walks, So it's the money that I think is going to make her the 371 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:40.079 candidates. Yeah, and Mandy, can you stay with us for another segment? 372 00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.400 I sure can, yeah, because really like to follow up for them. 373 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:45.799 We're so fortunate to have Mandy Connell with us noon to three on eight 374 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:51.119 to fifty KOA. She and Heidi were at the GOP convention together. Mandy's 375 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:55.079 heading back as well to do great coverage at the Democrat convention. And I 376 00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:57.440 want to dive into that money issue, but also tell you who on the 377 00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:03.960 Democrat side I would be exponentially more worried about as a Democrat nominee and VP 378 00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:07.839 than I am. Kamala Harris and fill in the blank. You're on the 379 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:14.240 Dame Kaplas Show and now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast. Do you 380 00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:19.680 think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exists in the context 381 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.480 of all in which you live and what came before you. You know what 382 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:32.000 also excites me what I'm among the many things I'm excited about. Electric school 383 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:38.880 buses. I love electric school buses. I just love them for so many 384 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:44.480 reasons, Maybe because I went to school on a school bus. Raise your 385 00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:51.079 hand if you went to school on a school bus. No, I'm sorry, 386 00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:56.039 America is not going to elect Kamala Harris president. I guess we could 387 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.039 all come up. Mandy Connell's so kind to be with Heidi Ganal and I 388 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:03.440 this afternoon, Mandy noon to three e fifty k way. I guess, 389 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:08.000 Mandy and Heidi, we could imagine a scenario where perhaps, and it's hard 390 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:14.160 to envision, President Trump does or says something so crazy that opens the door 391 00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:17.880 to Kamala Harris. But just on merit, I mean, do you think 392 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:21.440 I just fell out of a coconutry? Can either of you see, I 393 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:25.519 mean, truly, in your heart of hearts, can you see America choosing 394 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:29.960 Kamala Harris to be our commander in chief and everything else that goes with that 395 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:34.559 job. Absolutely not. But here's the thing I learned in my governor's race. 396 00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:41.559 The Democrat Party, they're magicians at branding people and kind of getting the 397 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.920 masses to believe amazing things about these folks. That are lies. Like, 398 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:51.000 think about the job they did in Colorado of making sure that everyone thought Jared 399 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:55.039 Pulis was a libertarian and freedom loving but this little puppy dog sitting on his 400 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:59.160 lap to the tune of thirty million dollars in ads. So I just it 401 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:03.359 still makes me ner. They are a machine and they have this figured out. 402 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.519 I'm sure they've gained out every situation and they're ready to go. I 403 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.400 agree. You know, I'd love to say that America would be hip to 404 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.920 the coconut tree. I thought that was gonna be the ven diagram cut, 405 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.759 because who doesn't love ven diagrams? Stan, I mean, we all love 406 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.359 ven diagrams. But ultimately, there are a lot of people in this country 407 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.599 that despise Donald Trump. Okay, so they were never going to vote for 408 00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:27.920 Trump in the first place. But then there's those people in the middle who 409 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.880 were in play, but they didn't want to vote for Biden because he was 410 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.880 so old, right, But maybe they don't love Donald Trump, so that 411 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:40.720 squishy middle. She could conceivably win some of that squishy middle. But it's 412 00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:45.240 really going to come down to how excited each team is for their candidate. 413 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.720 And I will tell you I mean, I realized delegates are like a microcosm 414 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.039 of supporters, right, They're the most passionate supporters. But these are people 415 00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:56.279 who are not content to go to the RNC. They they're knocking doors, 416 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.119 they're making sure that people are going out to vote. So we've just seen 417 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:06.480 a Democrat party that was stuck in a severe malaise because their candidate was horrible 418 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:12.440 go to be energized in a way that frankly makes me nervous. I'm kind 419 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:17.680 of with Heidi on that. It does make me nervous because of the level 420 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:21.240 of hatred for Donald Trump. Plus Dan, you and I know, he's 421 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:25.279 not just running against Kamala Harris, he's running against the media. So to 422 00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:30.200 Heidie's point, the media is going to do everything in their power to make 423 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.480 us forget about ven diagrams and coconut trees and what has come before and what 424 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.640 has come after and all of the other ridiculous clap trap that she said and 425 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.480 put her up here. I don't know if you realize this, but after 426 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.279 yesterday, I'm pretty sure she's the second coming of Christ based on the coverage 427 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.240 that she is getting, you know, I mean, she's just it's so 428 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.599 over the top right now, Well, I hear you, Mandy. And 429 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.640 obviously it was always going to be tougher for Trump once Biden was thrown overboard, 430 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.759 because Biden was a layup at this point. I mean, it was 431 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:05.279 like running against I hate to say it, but politically a dead man. 432 00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.400 It was a layup. It was always going to be tougher. But I'll 433 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.640 tell you what, I'd be a lot more worried if it was Michelle Obama, 434 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.640 exponentially more worried. I'd be a lot more worried if it was Josh 435 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:22.720 Shapiro and Gretchen Witmer covering two swing states, obviously in Michigan Pennsylvania. I'd 436 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.200 be a lot more worried about that than I would be Kamala Harris. And 437 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:29.720 I think they'd all be terrible presidents and vice presidents. But in the end, 438 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:35.440 I think it's going to be so clear to people that she is she 439 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.440 doesn't have the substance, she doesn't have the gravitas. And this is where 440 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:43.160 I think enough people, and it's subjective, right, but enough people are 441 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:47.359 going to see President Trump much differently after the character he showed and the leadership 442 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:52.319 he showed during the assassination attempt. I just don't think a Kamala Harris is 443 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.640 going to be able to trump that in ten or twelve weeks. I mean, 444 00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.880 when do we start voting. It's like Monday, right, exactly. 445 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:05.200 Well, I do agree with you that that Trump's handling. I would say 446 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.599 the last three weeks, right until twenty three to twenty four minutes into his 447 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:15.440 speech at the convention, Trump showed a level of discipline since the debate, 448 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.240 even during the debate that we have not seen from him. Now. He 449 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.839 decided to go off script at the convention and I frankly fell asleep during that 450 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:28.559 speech. But if he can remain disciplined, this race is his to lose. 451 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.000 I still believe that. However, I think it's not going to be 452 00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:35.359 a landslide. I think it's still going to be a squeaker, and I 453 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.559 think that it's going to be it's going to be an interesting, you know, 454 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.799 three and a half months to get us through this, and certainly an 455 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.720 interesting DNC, which we'll have full coverage of on KOA as well as we 456 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:50.200 jet off to Chicago. So I'm very excited about that. Helly Andy, 457 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.799 can you feel every oh, go ahead? Sorry, Heidi, No, 458 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.680 you can kill everybody in Mandy on how to follow you and where to follow 459 00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:00.440 you. You can always follow at Koa, Colorado on all of thiscial media 460 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:05.079 platforms. My producer Anthony does the most incredible social media content. And I 461 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:07.000 want to make one comment before we go, because I've got to leave here 462 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.679 in a second as well. Dan, the Michelle Obama thing is intriguing and 463 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:15.719 scary. Okay, intriguing for Democrats, scary for Republicans. But what is 464 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.119 her motivation? That's what I want to know, because we both know that 465 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.880 Michelle and Barack Obama are still pulling the levers of power behind the scenes with 466 00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:28.800 no accountability. So why would she want to put herself up there as the 467 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.360 face when they can be the backbone and not have to take any of the 468 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:36.000 crap. Well, and maybe she won't want to, and maybe she'll be 469 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:37.840 afraid of losing to Trump, but I would think anybody, if you at 470 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.719 the chance, all you have to say one word yes, and there's at 471 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.159 least a fifty percent chance you're going to be the most powerful person in the 472 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:49.599 world, it might be hard to resist that. Maybe, but you know 473 00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:53.719 she'll take that call on Oprah's yacht. Remember that. Okay, Hey Mandy, 474 00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:57.440 thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much. Dan 475 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.960 Anne, Heidi you're from Thanks many day. Connor, one of the very 476 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.920 best. Hide canal back with me after the break on the Dan Kaplis Show.