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You're listening to KFI AM six on
demand. Joyce, Welcome to the Jesus

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Christ Show. Thank you, Merry
Christmas, Merry Christmas. Joyce. What's

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on your mind? Well, eighteen
years ago my husband was diagnosed with lung

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cancer, and around December of that
year he had one lung removed, and

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then the following month, in January, he had one kidney removed because of

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lung cancer. And the doctor said, well, we'll do everything we can,

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but I suggest you go home and
get your fears in order during the

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next six months. So we were
both dumbfound it. But thirty years he

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said, so many health issues and
I miss him. I love miss so

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much and he just as a month. And I've been trying to read all

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the grief books and understand all these
things. But I'm sorry for crime.

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Go through crying without wanting to,
and then it'll be okay. But why

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would you try to stop your crying? Why would you try and stop your

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tears? Because they make me feel
like I shouldn't be doing that, that

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I should be strong and brave and
all the things you mentioned sometimes about being

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courageous. Oh but that's not no, that's that is fiction. There is

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nothing weak about tears. There's there
is only one place without tears, that

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says in scripture, and that's heaven, and that's the fulfillment of everything,

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and there's no need for them.
Hope is fulfilled. But while you're here

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on earth, that is given to
you as a gift to experience, to

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continue to have a physical reaction along
with your emotions to a loss, a

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love, tears of joy, tears
of pain, those are precious. They're

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not weak, not weak at all. Well, when you Mintioned mentioned passion

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a short time ago, I thought, you know, during all these years,

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the past two years, he was
pen bound and I was with them

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all the time, helping him and
taking care of them, and he never

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complained. He was always such a
good person, and I would get short

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with him sometimes. I think sometimes
now I think I should have been kinder.

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But I always say passion for not
what what you said about I was

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always he would say, oh,
i'll see in a few minutes, because

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I keep going back in and talking
to him or telling him something. And

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I said, I can't help it. Here like a magnet, you just

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I just like seeing you, you
know anyway. But I'm not even sure

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what to say anymore. He was
just such a kind I think I think

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part of it was he was my
everything. He was my friend, he

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was my husband, he was my
confidant, he was everything. He was

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a little boy sometimes and a strong
man. And and I just miss all

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of those people. Well, the
best of them are all of those things

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and more. And God trusted his
heart to you, He brought you to

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him and him to you, and
trusted both of you with each other's lives.

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And as far as getting upset,
and there are so many emotions when

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somebody is sick, and it is
about the mechanical and the most boring basic

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things of having to feed or go
back and forth when somebody can't. That's

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the basic fatigue, lack of sleep, those are just the basic mechanics.

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And then deep down it's also the
sadness that shows up as anger. That

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what that means is, you know, we're not who we used to be,

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or I can't experience you in the
same way as we used to,

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or you know I miss these things. It comes out in many different ways.

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But what you said is profound.
You said he was like a magnet.

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That's the way relationships should be,
not in a compulsive way, but

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dependent way, where it's just the
mere presence of them has power. Just

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them being in the other room,
even if you're not talking, just the

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being around and feeling the energy of
somebody in your life is powerful. It's

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beautiful. That's exactly That's exactly how
it was. And he had a little

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room that he liked to be in
with the TV and sports and movies and

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reading the paper. And he was
always always could make me laugh or smile.

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And he was so witty and so
kind, and I would always peek

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in on him. He had a
door that was used to be an old

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door, like in the old fashioned
I forget what you call him telephone booths,

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Oh, yes, last panels.
So even when the door was closed,

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if I had to go into the
other bathroom or into wheeling had in

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the bathroom, I would always cross
by that door. I always could see

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him sleeping or watching TV or reading. And it always, I don't know,

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it always gave me a sense of
I don't know how to describe it,

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like wonderment or something, just how
he could be so calm and generous

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with his time and energy and storytelling
you. Oh, he was a wonderful

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storyteller and oh, thank you for
letting me talk about it, make so

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much better. Of course, you
know, there's some things that I would

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love for you to take with you
today, and one of them is to

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maybe journal the stories as best as
you can, to write them down in

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a book, and the way it
was brought to you, and the understanding

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of those things because you're kind of
the curator. I tell people this a

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lot that you've got to understand.
When you're the one that outlives someone,

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you end up being the curator of
their jokes, of their thoughts, of

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their ideas, and if you put
them down on paper, it's a good

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thing they live. There there's something
you can look at and see that it's

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tangible and reread and it helps you
categorize some of these emotions and memories and

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in a loving and fun way.
And it's like, you know, the

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book of your husband and certain things
like that. Secondly, how old were

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you when you met Oh? I
think just under forty maybe well when we

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first met, oh, probably in
by thirties. Okay, So now imagine

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all the life you lived prior to
meeting him. Yes, that life is

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what attracted him to you. Now
of course, beauty and the way you

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moved, and your eyes and your
smile and all these things are there.

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But that knowledge, the things that
you learned, the way you listened,

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the stories you told, all of
that is what made him love you.

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And your job now is to continue
those things, continue learning, continue laughing,

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continue living in a way that honors
your relationship, honors the time that

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he took with you, honors the
time that you took with him, and

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that honors God and the time that
you had together in him putting you two

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together, and to take those things
and to appreciate them by living still.

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He was your everything in the way
that you focused on each other, but

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he's not your everything in reality.
You came in to that relationship with everything,

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and you leave that relationship with everything, including the beautiful memories of being

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with him and what you both gave
to each other. So, Joyce,

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I want you to go and peace, my dear, on this Christmas Eve,

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and I want you to think happy
thoughts, and I want you to

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write down the thoughts of holidays,
pasts, of stories past, and of

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things that Joyce wants to do.
What is Joyce going to do now?

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What does this remainder of your life
look like, how are you going to

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honor that relationship by continuing to live? Which is the best thing to do

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when someone passes is to continue to
honor them by living. Allison, Welcome

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to the Jesus Christ Show. Good
morning and Happy Christmas. Well, happy

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Christmas to you. How can I
help you? So, my wonderful,

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beautiful six year old who's extremely intelligent
and well spoken and reads well and understands

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at a greater level that most think, rafiss to want to go with me

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today to Christmas Eve service to celebrate
your birth? Well not uncommon, So

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as a parent, what's your initial
gut reaction? I'm a little frustrated because

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this young man is blessed beyond means. His mommy and his daddy is a

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chef who just lost his job because
of the twenty dollars an hour increase.

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His mommy is a housekeeper that works
when he's at school so that she's available

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to him all day. And he
is never without, he has never been

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without. And I just there's just
something about this that is really really bugging

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me. Jesus. Well, one, I wouldn't force it. It's much

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easier when you start early, and
I will tell you that just as a

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point of comfort, not to take
from your personal story. But my producer,

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Neil Savadra has a seven year old
and goes through the same thing.

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It's not just you. It is
complicated. Kids are very smart. As

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a matter of fact, there are
studies that show that kids think on a

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genius level, and that basically people
parents' schools kind of ungeniusfy them because as

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trying to put people in a box
and teach them about different things rather than

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understanding and reasoning. But kids are
very good problem solvers. Kids have a

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great intellect, They're thirsty, and
they're taking it all in the concept of

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God, the concept of faith,
and the concept of these things are very

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difficult because everything is provided for them. So imagine this with all those great

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blessings and all those things that you
described, that your child has the brain

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of a six year old. Now
you take Adam and Eve, you put

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them in perfection, in paradise,
in the presence of God, and they

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still don't get it. So don't
expect the a six year old to get

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it all. I would start maybe
with stories. There is a Bible that

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I referred to on this show,
and I recommend called the Picture Bible.

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And yeah, so that's a great
start, especially when you go through the

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holidays. You can read from that. There are cartoons that can be helpful

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about the basics of the of the
story of what's going on. Nativities in

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the house can be helpful. Yeah. I don't mean to interrupt you,

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but I will make you laugh.
Literally, when I was explaining to him

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why we got to go to Christmas
church, he ran and grabbed his little

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book of the Charlie Brown Christmas and
he read me the passage that line that's

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read him. He's like, I
understand Christmas, Mommy, I don't need

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to go to church. Okay,
well, see that's a really wonderful thing.

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And by the way, I'll let
the other part slide. But when

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it comes to understanding, that's the
first part. That's first part of everything.

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You understand what it is first,
and then you understand what that means,

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what that knowledge means, and then
you apply it. A six year

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old is not going to apply it. As a matter of fact, a

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six year old is not at the
point of understanding. It's a matter some

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theologians believe that Heaven forbid, if
he passed today, he's not accountable for

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what he doesn't know because he's six. Some people say it's ten, some

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people say it's twelve. All of
these things the reality, Alison, all

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you can be is an example.
If he doesn't understand church or doesn't want

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to participate, that's a bigger issue
of trying to explain the importance of getting

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together with other people. And there'll
be other kids and they'll be opportunities to

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learn some things and ask questions,
but it is it's complicated, and unless

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they're going to church day one and
it's just part of the family, it's

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more difficult to introduce it to them
later. And having that structure is important,

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but it's not always easy, especially
in today's world. But the fact

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that a kid doesn't want to go
to church, it's not the end of

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the world. The key is to
understand first, because his communion, his

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connection is with you, your family. That's where he's getting his coin and

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thee at right now. That communion, that connection later it will come from

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the church body, and you'll have
to weave that in the curiosity. The

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curiosity starts now in understanding it's Christmas
Eve, Merry Christmas to you. I

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know that there's a lot going on
in the world, but celebrations and festivals

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and feasts and these things can be
important to remind you what life is and

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why it's worth fighting for, why
it's worth celebrating, and in this particular

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case, to give thanks towards the
birth of a savior that could bring salvation

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to those that believe and have faith. Now, not everybody will be in

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a state of joy, but this
is still a time of gathering and connecting.

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Eight hundred five to zero one five
three four is the number if you

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have a theology question or life situation
question anywhere in the US of a eight

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hundred five to zero one five three
four. Joanna, Welcome to the Jesus

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Christ Show. Hi Jesus, Yeah, thank you for and and your resurrection

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of course. And I just,
you know, like a lot of moms,

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I'm sure and grandmother's I just you
know, I'm getting I'm seeing all

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the packages I've wrapped and I'm still
making some food. And I feel like

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with my kids, my daughter,
I'm just tolerated. It's not like I'm

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even wanted there. And I don't
want to be like, you know,

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it's just hurtful because I know I'm
going to go there, and it's just

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like they're doing an obligation. And
my son probably won't even say a word

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to me, and my daughter just
tolerates. And this attitude has influenced I

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feel like my grandkids a bit not
I mean, they just don't see that

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included. I live like two miles
from my daughter, for example, and

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here's an example. So you know, her and her husband are making Tomlly's.

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Well you know, she's Hispanic,
he's not. And it's like a

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you know, tradition in my faily
for years, I am not included.

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I'm not asked to come, I'm
not asked for any you know, and

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it's this is the first time they've
done it. And my daughter said,

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oh yeah, well we've got to
Tomali's. You know, it's too much

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with a lot of people. But
then she let me know that she had

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invited Mark my granddaughters, and it's
hurtful. I just don't I know,

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there's a lot of things in the
past, but I've tried to you know,

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well we her dad and I got
a divorce, and her anger towards

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me, it just doesn't stop.
It just doesn't matter for the sake of

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you know, time, we're obviously
limited, and I want to ask you

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a couple questions, Joanna. First
of all, is dad still in the

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picture anywhere? Yeah? My ex
husband he lives two blocks for me,

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and he's not We're neither one of
us are married, although he has been

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married two other times after me.
Oh great, he's not married. So

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does he have a relationship with the
kids and the grandchildren? Oh? Yeah,

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they adore him. Okay, So
did you activate the divorce? I

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left? Yeah? I left?
Yeah, I left. Okay. So

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in your words, and I know
this can be hard to be objective,

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but to look outside of the situation, why do you think they have a

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problem with you? Well, I'm
I guess I do have strong opinions,

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but I don't scare them. And
then when I do, when I get

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abused, what I feel like I've
been used too much? Then it comes

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out in a way that's not good. Okay, So you weaponize your responses

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too, Well, yeah it has
been, but well, well after years,

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you know, it takes a while. I mean, it's just so

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much abuse. Like we were,
I was babysitting constantly, and you know,

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I'm seventy at least I was sixty
five at the time and just totally

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just dropping them off and not concern
And then when they're relatives, when his

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family would come over from out of
state, they would be taking him to

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dinner, taking going to the kids
of the zoo. But my hex cousin

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and I were simply the drop off
people. And after a while, Yeah,

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it got to feel like geez,
you know, so your ex husband

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was doing the same thing, doing
something similar, picking up, dropping off.

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Did he have the same problems with
it that you did. No,

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he did it, he did it. No, he doesn't. He doesn't

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that ever at all. You know. Well, then can I just say

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one thing, Jesus, this is
just so it's so okay, So just

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real quick, Like a month ago, October twenty fourth, my sister,

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my oldest sister, this ady called
me her kids embezzled her entire account,

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which was over one million dollars,
and quick claimed her home. She called

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me from out of state. Yeah, she called me from out of state.

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She's not even my closest sister,
but you know, she's my sister.

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So I said, I'm coming out
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and I brought my ex husband.
He's pretty mild mannered and she's you know,

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he's despite the fact we've in drawers
whatever fifty years, we're still close

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in the family, and he felt
she felt like she needed we needed some

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support. So I went over that
when we got there, and in this

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rushed to save my sister because he
the people that in Bezels are sitting there

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in her home boasting that they have
her house now. So we get her

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car. We started reading and my
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he was like lost his mind,
and I think later it was maybe having

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to do with the hell high altitude
from where we were living, and I

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had to spend time in the emergency
room. They wanted to do all this

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stuff. I get my sister home
back to California and he had some tests.

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It didn't show anything, and my
daughter was very angry that I didn't

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stay there. I cannot stay.
I'm in California. Your dad seems okay

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now he found herself out, Joanna. She won't speak to me now,

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okay. Well, we're up against
the clock, and that's something. There's

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something no. But I just want
to say this, my dear, because

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I can hear the frustration. I
can't pull all the people in your daughters

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you're at I only have you the
work. Sounds like it's your work that

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needs to be done. Don't worry
about them, And that's going to take

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You're going to have to face it
and say to make this better. You

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know you're going to want to hear
exactly what their problem is, your family,

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your daughters, because it it seems, I mean, even you giving

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me specific dates October twenty fourth or
these, that you keep things differently,

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you hold them differently in your heart, and you express them differently, and

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for what other whatever reason, that
makes it difficult for people to enjoy your

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presence, and then you don't enjoy
it. And I don't think you deserve

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to be in that situation, and
I don't think they deserve to be in

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that situation. But the key is
with you for your life, because you're

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the one that's bold and brave enough
to call in and ask the question.

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I'm giving you the answer, and
that is you need to do some work

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on yourself. But first of all, you need to have some very tough

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either letter exchanges or sit downs with
your daughter and say, what is it

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about me that bothers you? I'm
giving you don't argue with them. Don't

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any of that. You just take
it, go home with it and see

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what is real and what you feel
you need to work on, because this

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is to better you, not better
them. You know, we come together

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on Sundays. This show has been
on for over two decades. I know,

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right, kind of nutty, isn't
it. It's been syndicated for over

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a decade, a meaning that it
airs on some eighty stations or so across

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the country. And years and the
cycles go by, and inevitably we come

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across at least two major holidays,
Christmas and Easter, and the importance of

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these holidays to the believer, to
the Christian, one is the birth of

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hope and one is the fulfillment of
hope. The birth of hope obviously,

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is celebrated on Christmas, and the
completion the actualizing of that hope is on

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Easter, the death on the Cross
and the resurrection. If nothing else,

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in the pain, in the loss, and a lot of loss still in

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calls, we can't get to whether
it's Dennis's sweet dog Anne and her friend

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that she's trying to help, whatever
it might be, contemplation of the afterlife

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from John, whatever it might be
going through your head today on Christmas,

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whatever it is, try to focus
on the hope of the birth, the

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newness of the birth, the faith
that surrounded the birth, not only of

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Mary, the faith of Joseph,
the faith of the magi to traverse to

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get to see the baby King.
Focus on that hope. With every death

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there is newness, with the end
of something is the beginning of something else.

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And to stare as much pain as
it has involved in the loss of

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something or someone, and that pain
is real and should be experienced. However,

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in addition to that comes the reality
of life, of more trials and

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understanding, of more blessings, of
more curiosity and fulfillment of knowledge, of

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passing torches on to younger and newer
generations. And even in all the pain

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and confusion in the world, if
just within this season you can take the

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time and lean your faith on a
birth and the newness of that birth,

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then maybe that and wanting to serve
others and having a servant's heart will give

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you a perspective and insight that will
go beyond your circumstances or situation and guide

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you into an understanding that goes beyond
this world into the next. Merry Christmas

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and remember these simple words, I
am with you Always. KFI AM six on demand

